vehicles-discussion

[thorny smelt]

Yup. It is a real tank

[solid gate]

wait been used in the war?? or blueprints?

[thorny smelt]

Nope. It was built but never used.

[neon fog]

what line should i grind, the progetto or the kranvagn??

[sacred trail]

It was built around 1944 or so in France during German occupation under the pretense that it would be a tracked snow removal vehicle. By the time the “tank” part was completed, it was already outclassed by mid-40s and early 50s tanks, and the nukes dropped on Japan already ended the war

[thorny smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/100-perfect-score-gif-13222638

[solid gate]

ohh i see built but never saw in action
@thorny smelt you already said it haha sorry

[sacred trail]

Yeah, a lot of tanks in Blitz were either blueprint-only, prototyped but never mass-produced, or just fictional WeeGee amalgamations

[thorny smelt]

Some of the tanks like KV-2, Tiger, and St. Emil are still operational

As well as EBRs

[sacred trail]

Some Examples of what I was talking about before:

Black Prince- Prototype that never got mass-produced
E 75- Blueprints only
FV215b- Completely Fake

[thorny smelt]

As well as FV215b 183

[sacred trail]

The 183 only got a mock-up but never got to prototypes because of logistical difficulties that mostly counted on the main gun (which was 183 millimeters specifically to kill the back-then-feared IS-3)

[thorny smelt]

The S---Barn is real 100%

[sacred trail]

Some prototypes were tested off Centurion III hulls with considerable success but those same logistics kept it from being put into mass-production

[thorny smelt]

I'm just sad about this bud

[sacred trail]

Is that the Churchill GC or is that a Crom-not-well?

[kindred wren]

CGC

[thorny smelt]

Churchill Gun Carrier

[sacred trail]

Feelsbadman

Imagine if the Conquerer Gun Carriage actually became a thing with that outdated howitzer as the main gun

[thorny smelt]

Go to Tank Museum in YouTube. There are lots of tanks being presented like the KV-1, Achilles, Stug, etc.

[sacred trail]

IIRC Angry Connor is just a specialized Archer TD that was purposely built with the gun facing backwards, so “reverse driving” is just the driver driving forward

[thorny smelt]

Yup. I also forgot that weird tank destroyer.

[sacred trail]

It probably drives “forward” with good speed if the “reverse” in Blitz is fast. It could back out or provide cover fire during a retreat without having to turn the whole thing around

[drifting grove]

CGC. One of the few British tanks I wish didn't exist. A stain to our history of tank production.

[sacred karma]

Churchill Game Carrier, not Gun Carrier

[thorny smelt]

Churchills are one of the best

[drifting grove]

The heavies? Yes. The GC? Not even remotely.
Thank goodness the bloody thing never saw active service.

[kindred wren]

The Angry Connor is the Archer

[thorny smelt]

Even US imports like the Shermans, the OG anti-Tigers

[kindred wren]

Shermans aren‘t really good for anti-Tiger duty

[drifting grove]

The Tigers were designed to counter the Shermans and other Mediums, iirc. At least the Tiger I was.

[thorny smelt]

Oh. My bad

[final adder]

they never where, and the average platoon didn't want aint-tiger shermans anyway

[kindred wren]

Yeah, basically outclassing them in terms of armour and firepower, which eventually prompted the allies to design heavies of their own because they wanted to prevent the enemy to both out-armour and out-gun them, but that kind of got drowned by HEAT and subsequently the MBT doctrine

[drifting grove]

I know.

[thorny smelt]

Pattons are the successors of Shermans?

[kindred wren]

It‘s not like they had a lot of encounters with Tigers. They would be exceptionally lucky or unlucky to meet one

[kindred wren]

No, Pattons are the successors of Pershings

[thorny smelt]

Why am I forgetting about the freaking Pershings?

[drifting grove]

But this is World War II we're talking about. The only country at the time that had a tank resembling an MBT was the British Centurion, as it was the Brits who came up with the concept of MBTs. I don't think even the Centurion served in WWII.

[thorny smelt]

Aaaanyways. I have to go to sleep. It is 12 MN at my place. See ya

[valid gale]

Most post war tanks came late into the war when it had already ended

[drifting grove]

Obviously.....

That's why they're called 'post-war'.

[kindred wren]

It didn‘t, and there are numerous WW2 tanks you could technically consider MBTs which were not intended as MBTs

[valid gale]

Which centi was introduced 45-46 t44 family 44-45 < plagued by issues and the Is3 series had just begun to roll out

[final adder]

yea pretty much, and it's why even by the end of 1945 most ground troops had about 20 shermans with 75mm's for every 1 with a 76mm, and that's being very nice towards the 76mm. In reality that ratio most likely had a much larger gap.

[valid gale]

Also the tiger was designed and ordered before the Sherman

[sacred trail]

And then the Jackson was conceived off the Sherman suspension to counter really any Axis armor with considerable effectiveness, but the Hellcat was more recognized for the better K/L ratio. Some Jacksons still serve in a few armored corps today actually

[kindred wren]

Tiger was more a response to the early successes pf the KV series of tanks than to mediums like Shermans

[drifting grove]

Wasn't that the Tiger II?

[final adder]

not really

[kindred wren]

No, Tiger II was… madness at work

[sacred trail]

Effective madness or just madness?

[kindred wren]

Meagrely effective madness

[west rapids]

Tiger in the right hands was very great

[sacred trail]

Lemme guess. Henschel engine and transmission failed it?

[kindred wren]

It‘s more that it was way over the top

[final adder]

not really, would brake down fairly easily, maintenance was annoying, and would also get stuck often

[west rapids]

Yes the maintenance issues were greatly frowned upon but in battle it was quite the tank

[kindred wren]

The Tigers being exceptionally prone to breaking down is more of a myth than reality

[valid gale]

When you design a vehicle that’s meant to counter enemy’s newfound dominance and your low on logistics you do not go big or go home

[sacred trail]

Yep. The ONE primary issue with any Tiger at the time was that the transmissions were prone to fail at the worst possible moment. Ferdinands based off the Tiger P hull either broke down before reaching the front, or got destroyed in battle

[west rapids]

Many commanders of the tiger have gone to be aces, micheal Whitmann for example

[valid gale]

He already had experience before commanding his tank most other commanders not so much and Germany had ran out of experienced crews late war

[final adder]

because it had the best gun in the fight, and the thickest armor, thats like saying that the Kv-85 is the best tank, when it's only facing Pz. III's

[wise moth]

Tiger P had a really overengineered transmission with a lot of electric motors and stuff that were built to substandard quality due to lack of materials. The Henschel Tiger wasn’t nearly as bad

[sacred trail]

And then he got ammorekt presumably by a Firefly

[valid gale]

Idk why people believe the transmission myth was the big issue

[sacred trail]

Didn’t the Henschel prototype overheat a lot during initial tests when pitted directly against Porsche’s?

[wise moth]

Honestly, I’ve arrived at the belief that the Tiger was a fine machine, because it allowed Germany to maximize their advantage in their (limited) skilled crews

[west rapids]

Meaning it was reliable and good for its time?

[final adder]

reliable, eh. Good for it's time, untill it broke down 40% of the time, and they couldn't do much other than hand crack that turret more than they had too.

[valid gale]

The turret wasn’t hand cranked but it had a weird system where there were pedals on the floor and you would use them to traverse left and right

[final adder]

yes if it wasn't broken down

[sacred trail]

So… driver error?

[wise moth]

In a nutshell, it was a skill issue

[drifting grove]

Yes.

[west rapids]

Because it broke down “40” precent of the time doesn’t mean that it still couldn’t do what it had to do

[kindred wren]

The breakdown myth surrounding Tigers is going too far

[final adder]

it dose when it wouldn't even be able to get to the fight

or can it just teleport to the fight now?

[wise moth]

In a way; yes. It’s called a railcar

[sacred trail]

So the reason why the Henschels broke is because-

[west rapids]

Tank on tank isn’t even common

The only other thing that stopped the tiger II was lack of experienced crew

[kindred wren]

The Tiger was generally mechanically reliable

[final adder]

you know things are often fairly reliable, when they don't get used often yes?

[kindred wren]

So what?

[west rapids]

Both tigers were used for long range combat, their 88mms had very high shell velocity at the time, so they could just camp out in wooded areas and such

[kindred wren]

It has to be said, the myth that Tigers break down extremely often is just a myth and likely born out of bias than any reliable research

[violet timber]

Tigers did break down quite often, but so did a lot of tanks. This was usually due to poor or difficult maintenance on the tank, not really the tanks fault but the crew’s

Pretty much

[hard cedar]

quickmeme.com

[violet timber]

One of the reasons you don’t hear about a ton of Sherman’s breaking down is because they were very easy to maintain. The T-34 broke down probably more than Tigers, you just don’t hear about it as much because the Soviet’s made so many and didn’t really report any of these breakdowns

[hard cedar]

oh ok
thank you for your advice I shall use this method from now on

[hardy stag]

Still don't understand how Blitz hasn't given the Centurion 1 better turret armor. That's literally all they have to do to make it remotely competitive at tier 8. Right now it feels like a really weak tier 7

Just do what WoT PC did, make the plate 152mm and the mantlet 200

Makes it so it can at least hold a ridge

[kindred wren]

Hence why I said that they were mechanically reliable

Depends on how „relevant“ you want it to be

[hardy stag]

It's not the damage that's the issue, the 5/1 has the 7/1s turret armour and hull armour. The 5/1 is literally a better tank in every single sense of the word, but it's premium.

If you play the Cent 1 right now, you're outmatched by tier 7s

[kindred wren]

I‘m 95% sure that the Cent 5/1 has better frontal hull armour than the 7/1

[hard cedar]

it does
5/1 has unnecessarily good hull armor
also spaced armor on the rear for no reason

[hardy stag]

Well I don't mind the 5/1 being better but the Cent 1 is horrendously underpowered, it feels like a relic from years ago compared to everything else

The only thing the Cent 1 has is pen. That's it. And a good reverse speed

But even then the caliber of the gun is so low that that 226mm of pen doesn't mean all too much because it shatters on angles.. so what does the tank even offer?

[kindred wren]

There is no such thing as a shatter mechanic in this game

[hardy stag]

It's literally like WG just made it bad on purpose because every line has to have at least one bad tank. The sodding tier 8 light has the same armour (if not better) and the same gun that has better performance stats

[worn wigeon]

Yo Tiger!!

[hardy stag]

Shatter was the wrong word, but it bounces more regularly due to thickness + shell size

[kindred wren]

No, the shell size only matters in terms of the caliber rules

[hardy stag]

226mm of pen can't pen the lower hull of the Tiger II yet the IS3 can

[sacred trail]

Is that why the Maus failed?

[hardy stag]

What about the comet?

You're saying -12 degrees of gun dep and the same dpm as the FV201 is bad?

and I swear I've penned the lower hull of the tiger 2 with the is-3 plenty of times

I dunno man, but the Cent 1 is just horrendously ass and can't fight against a panther 1, Comet, T43, Leo without losing a ton of health

[kindred wren]

I guess it‘s time for me to buy the Centurion I

[hardy stag]

Turret buff is almost required on it

but saying the comet is bad is like saying the panther 1 is bad

[kindred thorn]

imagine playing t8 tech tree meds

[hardy stag]

What's bad about the comet

[kindred thorn]

armor

[kindred wren]

Pen

[hardy stag]

Low profile
Good gun handling
Light tank mobility if you're not a tard who drives up hills when there's flats right next to it
hull traverse is great
Gun depression is best of class

[sacred trail]

The only good thing the Comet has going for it is the fast reload

[hardy stag]

Idk I averaged 2.9k in my comet

[kindred wren]

So you do well in your Comet but complain about the Centurion I?…

[hardy stag]

Centurion 1 is a difference beast of ass.

You lose the mobility, you're the size of a tiger 2, everywhere you get hit is an ammorack, tracks are the size of a city

[raw tusk]

The e100, obj 268, jageroo, and the t62a lines don’t have a bad tank

[hardy stag]

No but they all have absolutely trash players lmao

[raw tusk]

Yeah lol

[hardy stag]

The comet wins a duel against any other tier 7 med apart from the panther

[raw tusk]

Oh I’m also missing the vickers light

[kindred wren]

Depends

[hardy stag]

I have to admit the light line is just a better medium line than the british meds, it doesn't make sense

[raw tusk]

Comet isn’t bad but it’s not good it’s just meh

[hardy stag]

It's way more versatile than the T43

[kindred wren]

The Comet is support only

[raw tusk]

But why would u even go t43 the lt version of that line is a billion times better

[kindred wren]

Or a farming tank if you want so

[hardy stag]

You make it sound like you're playing the comet with your eyes closed I honeslty don't understand how you can do badly in it. If you're a monkey who wants your gun to have 198 pen because you hit red 100% of the time, I can understand

[kindred wren]

Lol

[hardy stag]

But if you're not a chimp who realises you can actually move while you shoot it's a godsend. It's just a Fv201 with mobility lol

[raw tusk]

The comet isn’t bad

[kindred wren]

I respectlessly disagree

[hardy stag]

I'm not flexing at all but if you're across the map from the enemy trying to snipe in a medium you need to reevaluate what class of tank you're playing lmao, you can harrass the shit out of stuff with its dpm and win almost any duel. You decimate all heavies lol

[kindred wren]

The Comet is much like the Leopard 1 a farming tank, and while you can do well at farming enemies that doesn‘t make the tank good in situations that matter. At the end of the day you just play a game of hoping your allies last long enough for you to farm enough damage to make the game winnable

[kindred thorn]

almost all t7 meds i think have around 2500 dpm

[hard cedar]

the leo 1 is good tho 😠

[hardy stag]

The comet has 3000, so the fact you're calling it subpar is just tarded lol

It's a reroll account babe

[kindred thorn]

hmm 150 pen

[hardy stag]

But that still doesn't take away the fact that I'm averaging 2.7k a game in a tank you're saying is bad LOL

Pulling the bot card because you're coping you're shit in a tank lol

[hard cedar]

imagine flexing reroll stats

[kindred wren]

Fite me

[raw tusk]

I agree with this but the comet still isn’t bad it’s just meh

[violet timber]

I mean you can average 2.7k in a VK 45.02 A if you really try hard enough, but that doesn't make it a good tank. Comet is in the same boat, but it's a med, meaning that it's boat is sinking. It's also tier 7, basically putting it underwater

[hardy stag]

It's a reroll because I wanted to start again, my stats were still 3k wn8 so :v

[kindred wren]

I think it lacks in the most crucial gameplay aspects and instead shines in the supportive farming role, which I don‘t like because farming is not the way I enjoy playing this game

[hard cedar]

i win you lose ggez

[hardy stag]

I don't get how you guys play tanks honestly, the VK has side armour that works because its frontal hull is sloped instead of being flat, it's just another tank that plays differently than just "drive forward shoot gun"

[kindred wren]

Ok, fair, can‘t argue with that

[raw tusk]

My career stats are trash I bombed them a while ago and I’ve been working my way up to 50%

[violet timber]

But the VK45.02 A's armor doesn't work, it's just a bad tank. Comet is in a worse boat being in tier 7 and a med

[kindred wren]

Wait, are you also going to argue that the VK 45.02 (P) Ausführung A is good?

[hardy stag]

It's like complaining a light doesn't have 200mm armour because you're driving infront of guns, if you keep moving you don't get slapped

No, the VK 45.03 is good the 02 is literally ass shit

Yeah when you learn not to drive infront of another team you might win a match in the comet babe

[violet timber]

I mean I have a 57% wr in my Comet :/

[kindred wren]

But the VK 45.03 is literally „drive forward shoot gun“

[kindred thorn]

just dodge shells smh

[west rapids]

Comet is cool

[raw tusk]

The vk45.03 used to be my favorite tank before when it was shit

[hardy stag]

Sounds like you're the kind of kid who does that anyway LOL

[hard cedar]

it got buffed like 2 updates ago?

[violet timber]

Bad*

[kindred wren]

Overbuffed, extremely overbuffed

[raw tusk]

Yeah I messed up my typing I meant when it was shit

[west rapids]

Whatever, I enjoyed it at least

[hardy stag]

b-b-b-b-but why my gun not pen front of tank snifff.. why i take damage where my 100000 amror .. . tank bad.. ..

[hard cedar]

f-f-f-o-r real...

[hardy stag]

Stop shooting the front of a tank and expecting it to pen everytime you lobotomite and you might see why the comet is genuinely good

[violet timber]

I mean, I prefer light tanks and lightly armored meds. But the Comet, I just can't play it. It's just that bad. This is coming form someone who's favorite tank is the STA-1.

[hardy stag]

It takes a man with a pinhead not to make damage in a tank with 3000dpm

[kindred wren]

Lol

[violet timber]

DPM is useless once the enemy discovers cover.

[kindred thorn]

yeah ur alpha is eugh
u may be able to put in a few shots but eventually they'll prob turn around or stop getting farmed

[violet timber]

"Lemme hit you for 160 while you hit me for 400, now I'm reloaded aaaaand you're behind that rock" -Fixed for Lux

[kindred wren]

Dpm is actually overvalued but ok. The only reason why dpm has some semblance of use is because it often is compared between tanks with similar alpha, and thus conveys a more important stat, reload time

[hardy stag]

1 shot away from being 3000 you 4head

[violet timber]

There's a reason why the T49 is loved by a lot of people

[kindred wren]

Except that you hit them for 160

[hard cedar]

gross

[kindred wren]

Ah yes, did you know that the 183 is only one shot away from 5.5k dpm with HESH?

[hardy stag]

You're just reaching because there's tears in your eyes when you're not driving something OP

[violet timber]

The yeet wagon strikes again

[hard cedar]

I would rather play the t92 or sheri 😌

[kindred wren]

😛

[violet timber]

True true

There's tears in my eyes because not enough people see the beauty of the STA-1

[hardy stag]

Glad something finally brought you joy in your pebble dwelling life

[hard cedar]

There's tears in my eyes because not enough people see the beauty of the leo 1

[kindred thorn]

every argument on the internet ends like this

[west rapids]

What beauty is there in the sta-1

[kindred wren]

There‘s tears in my eyes because they need to be wet to function properly

[violet timber]

You just gotta squint your eyes a bit

[hardy stag]

no its bad because it doesn't have 400mm of armor and it cant shoot on the move on par with a light tank its bad its bad weeooweeooo

[brave night]

🍿

[west rapids]

I just see a normal tier 8 med

[kindred thorn]

indeed

[violet timber]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-laugh-laughing-you-serious-jk-simmons-gif-6107729

[brave night]

Want some

[hard cedar]

*underperforming

[kindred wren]

A tank that doesn‘t get force-matched against itself is a bad tank 😛

[west rapids]

That was annoyingly insane to grind

[violet timber]

It performs better than the Panther II, Cent 1, Indien, and Pershing 🥰

[hardy stag]

back to my main point though i wish wg would stop giving love to the prem tanks and actually make the techtree tanks competitive instead of driving a narrative of "use free xp lol"

[kindred wren]

To be honest I found the STA-1 to be rather average as a tier eight med, didn‘t leave much of an impression on me

[hard cedar]

All equally as bad tanks 🥰

[violet timber]

True true, but the STA is just that little bit better

[west rapids]

Same, there was nothing good nor bad about it, well the grind was but in battle just an ordinary tank

[kindred thorn]

ehh they seem to be powercreeping old tanks with the new just like there other games

[hardy stag]

I'll admit I got heated and I'm sorry for name calling lmao

you're just offending my baby cumet

[thick trout]

Blitzanalysiz has more useful stats that WGs ones

[hardy stag]

You're lucky the Italian tanks aren't as much a problem as they are on PC WoT

[violet timber]

Still not the worst!

[kindred wren]

Lol

[hardy stag]

The fact everyone is playing the defender m1 right now and people still manage to do sub 500 damage in that thing baffles me

[hard cedar]

why the t-34-3 so bad 😭 (on the chart)

[thick trout]

@gentle wasp Mod1 is op what do you mean

(/s for anyone that has never seen what the Mod1 is)

[violet timber]

Honestly though, how is the T-34-3 the worst? That's bad

[kindred thorn]

sad*

[hardy stag]

How is the Skoda that low wtf

[hard cedar]

mod 1 is not bad 😠

[west rapids]

I’ve seen people use it in battle, many either miss or bounce shots lol

[kindred thorn]

t-34-2 has a higher wr than it..

[thick trout]

Laughs in being a heavy without armour, pen, alpha, dpm or speed :D

[hardy stag]

The Mod1 absolutely trashes everything, it has no business having the engine and the turret it has, it's far too good

[kindred wren]

The T-34-3 is worst because the armour, pen and gun depression let it down, and it‘s hard to get a good shot on anyone.

Heavies are often too heavily armoured and mediums peek too fast (and also are too rare)

[violet timber]

Mod 1 is powercrept to hell and back

[hardy stag]

226 pen, 4 shots of 190 every 15-17 seconds
22 bhpt

[hard cedar]

armor works against quite a few meds 🥱

[thick trout]

I think the Mod1 is doing pretty well because it's so forgiving for new players, and any other players know to avoid it like it was a leper 😂

Hey they have speed on their sid- oh wait maybe just dpm- nope nvm I'll just go cry :(

[hardy stag]

T-34-3's WR is so low because its an extremely cheap tier 8 prem so all the bad players get it and get stomped in it

bad players + bots*

[kindred wren]

This is relative winrate. It shows the winrate in the tank in relation to your average winrate in the tier and vehicle class

[hardy stag]

It's entire purpose on PC WoT was that it got preferential mm and couldn't see higher tiers

[thick trout]

I was smart I bought the rng bundle at the same time as the tank so it looks like I'm good in it :D

[hard cedar]

tiger playing 183 in ratings is major monke moment

[kindred wren]

That‘s just a self-fulfilling prophecy

Yes, it is the time of the year again when some big words get (re-)introduced to the Blitz Official Discord

[hard cedar]

skill issue

[thick trout]

It has been a long time since I've heard anyone here correctly use "just" tbh

[kindred wren]

We need a techtree slow assault TD at tier ten

[kindred thorn]

badger

[thick trout]

E3

Wait that's a slow assault TD but fast

[kindred wren]

Yes. Suffering on an industrial scale

[thick trout]

Just nerf the 263 to be slow

[kindred thorn]

just make obj 268 4

[kindred wren]

To be honest they could probably rework it to do that

[midnight leaf]

huh

i thought pantera was better than t44

[kindred wren]

But I would prefer something with low alpha and high pen. Maybe 200 alpha and 500 pen just because they can

[thick trout]

P44 is a little too paper to be a good tank for most of the playerbase, the T44 is kinda reliable no matter what player uses it

[kindred wren]

P44 is a blast to play though

[west rapids]

P44 is fun

[thick trout]

I haven't played mine in ages but I remember it being so fun

[hard cedar]

t44 reliable? 🥴

[west rapids]

Vk 72 reliable 😎

[hard cedar]

the hull armor isn't at least 😌

mod 1 👍 👍

do not insult my beautiful mod 1

[west rapids]

I rarely see mod 1 anymore 🤡

[thick trout]

You missed out the "very very very very" there ;)

[hard cedar]

mod 1 😌 😌
who needs chimera when you have mod 1

I'm glad you agree

[thick trout]

Anyone who isn't a masochist 😂

[midnight leaf]

if ur a masochist why not use the 122mm on t44

[thick trout]

Fun fact I did

[hard cedar]

because t44 gross

[indigo fable]

My wr with t44 with 122 is 40% even though my average tier 8 wr is around 65-70

[rough wasp]

I just got panther 2 and it's painfully worse than panther 1, any tips on equipment should I put on it, and what gun should I use

there are two, which one

[violet timber]

Well there’s a better 88 and a worse 88. Choose the better one

[rough wasp]

and what about the equipment, what should I put on it

alright tysm for the help

gonna take ages to grind the money to get those
I sold all my tanks to get it, I kinda rushed tier8 ngl

[violet timber]

I use the prolonged consumables, but that’s pretty much the best for it

[mighty tinsel]

Welcome back bro.

Did you miss me?

[solid gate]

E-100 or Maus?

[kindred thorn]

e100 cuz easier grind

[solid gate]

I mean to purchase, both are researched
Wich one is a better heavy

[kindred thorn]

mhmm maus
but after the nerfs im not really sure

[solid gate]

Thanks, ah yes that god damned nerf WG was really wrong on that nerf

[drifting grove]

Also Tiger II on the way.

[kindred thorn]

e75 though 😳

[hard cedar]

Heavies 💀 💀 💀

[drifting grove]

Fair trade-off for the mighty King Tiger.

[solid gate]

?

[kindred wren]

E 75 is not a trade off. Many consider it a reason to grind the line

[kindred thorn]

king until like 250mm+ of pen

[drifting grove]

Basically nothing except the BL-10.

[kindred thorn]

have u forgotten tier 9
and prammo?

[kindred wren]

Prammo is for tryharders

[drifting grove]

Even prammo isn't that effective at Tier VIII. Tier IX? Okay.

[kindred wren]

I only play to increase my hit ratio, not my damage ratio

[kindred thorn]

is5 prammo(and most heavies/tds prammo) goes through KT hull
most t9 TDs should be able to go through as well

[fast compass]

Tiger 2 doesn't stand much against prammo excluding that on some Russian med guns

[kindred thorn]

and some t9s dont even need prammo to punch through the hull

[drifting grove]

Well shiii.....

[kindred thorn]

yeah things like su 101 can go through KT as well with regular AP

[drifting grove]

Well dammit. But I can sidescrape!

[kindred thorn]

let me check turret armor

[kindred wren]

Tiger II isn‘t the best sidescraper but it‘s at least a valid approach

[kindred thorn]

Turret armor is effective 235 mm compared to like an effective 240-250 mm upper glacis

[tough dune]

250mm HEAT is enough to cheese Tiger 2's turret.

[plucky summit]

Yeah, BLTZ9000 cheeses poor Tiger II

[hard cedar]

ima cheese your poor lowe

[mighty tinsel]

All I said was he's the snarkiest veteran I know.

[plucky summit]

Too bad it's well angled and packed on the turret with spaced armor =)

[hard cedar]

Aight no problem I'll find a way to bring a hori into t8

[plucky summit]

Despite all the antics of mine about playing and loving the Lowe, you take it as if a new player just got the dang thing as his first tank and ran it into battle

Yes, I use enhanced armor on the Lowe, cry about it

Well good job ripping OP prammo out of the equation and basing it by tier :p

Whatever, aside from the upper plate, for general tier 8 guns, the armor stands consistent

Well it's great for punishing the Russians

Yeah, I figured since it's a heavy brawler it would just facethose Russians

Aight fine, it's a good nub bully >:(

[kindred wren]

Löwe is much like the T54E2 -boring but effective

[plucky summit]

At least the gun is the best in tier 8 =)

[kindred wren]

That smiley with the eight makes it look like a big nosed glasses wearer

[violet timber]

8=)

[kindred wren]

It‘s relatively easy to make the Löwe armour work

And even easier to use the gun

Boring but effective

[plucky summit]

It's definitely not boring to me, since my main type of tank is one with armor I can use, and a great gun to rely on

Also I was just testing you, ISU-152's gun exists, though maybe the accuracy puts it in jeopardy

But Lowe's gun is far from a joke anyways

Perhaps like two days ago, I answered 23 questions from Lux right there

Rip, well I can show my embarrassment by replying to the start of the convo in general disc

[kindred wren]

29

[plucky summit]

I corrected in the channel xd

[thorny smelt]

I think their engine became overheated and burst into flames before they go to the front. Porsche is so arrogant about their failures in design. Henschel's design won like 2 times (or more) with their Tiger I and II tanks. I'm no expert or anything, and all came from bits and bobs of what I researched.

[solid gate]

@gentle wasp oh

[thorny smelt]

Any thoughts about the Elefant/Ferdinand?

LOL Can we blame Ferdinand Porsche for that?

The gun is good but the overall tank is an utter crap

[hard cedar]

The gun is worse than the jp2s in every way

[thorny smelt]

I'm referring to real life Elefant X3 but yeah, it is bad in game

[frozen dirge]

Any one wanna play

[violet timber]

In real life the Elephant was absolute garbage. Couldn't actually get to the front because it would brake down. Couldn't get to a firing position because it would brake down. If it miraculously got to a firing position, it was actually kinda good. Then the German command decided "We have this heavy tank destroyer that doesn't do good with mountains. Let's send it to Italy!"

[thorny smelt]

2 of the surviving tanks are captured. 1 is going to Russia and the other to USA. Porsche is so ambitious that probably causes the defeat. Tiger P overheated and caught up in flames, and Elefant breaking down, that's a recipe for total disaster.

[violet timber]

Tiger P was more the driver didn't fully know how to drive it. The Elephant was heavier, and the transmission finally decided to give out on a number of them.

[thorny smelt]

Crew issue on Tiger P

[violet timber]

Skill issue

[thorny smelt]

How about Henschel's design?

[violet timber]

The Tiger 1 wasn't that bad reliably, it was just very difficult to maintain and crews got lazy towards the end of the war so they started braking down a lot

[copper swan]

lack of spares, not lazy crews

[thorny smelt]

The survived Tiger has a jammed turret. It is still operational in a sense that the engine is still functional.

[violet timber]

That too, but the Tiger was ridiculously hard to do maintenance on

[thorny smelt]

Lemme recall some of the things about Tigers I knew from bits and pieces I researched. Henschel's Tiger II won against Porsche's version, right?

[valid gale]

*ran out of experienced crews

In simple words blitz is a good way to farm average crew members

[violet timber]

Porche's Tiger II designs were the VK 45's iirc. They used the same petrol electric drive that didn't work in the Tiger P for some reason.

[thorny smelt]

Yup. The VK 45s

[violet timber]

I also don't believe the VK 45.03 ever existed, even in blueprints, but I could be wrong about that

[thorny smelt]

I'm aware about VK 45.03 in game but not in real life. Only Porsche's version of Tiger I and II

It is a Henschel design though with Porsche turret

[violet timber]

I believe it takes the VK 45 hull with the Tiger 2 (1-50) turret slapped on top

It disgusts me that the two turrets are called the "Porche" turret and "Henschel" turret even though both were made by Krupp

[thorny smelt]

Well they design, not manufacture

[violet timber]

It still disgusts me

[thorny smelt]

And unreliable Tiger P engine

[violet timber]

That happens, Porche was crazy

[thorny smelt]

More like ambitious and ignorant

[violet timber]

In theory the petrol electric drive could've worked, it was just executed poorly

[thorny smelt]

Yeah. The tank's heavy chassis burdened the engine

[violet timber]

At least we have the Maus

[copper swan]

that never moved on it's own power

[violet timber]

It also doesn't have any internals, but it exists. For that, we should be grateful

[thorny smelt]

Is KV-2's hull based on KV-1?

[copper swan]

some sort of historical accuracy and some fun modes are killed by sub par playerbase

[copper swan]

Yes

[thorny smelt]

Sadge. Poor engine crippled by the weight of the massive fridge turret

[violet timber]

But, big gun

[thorny smelt]

If the turret is light, probably it might sent into space after a single shot

[analog silo]

IRL KV-2s turrets where manually cranked and could only be turned on flat ground because of how imbalanced they could get. Or so I've been told

[thorny smelt]

Well it might topple on uneven ground

[copper swan]

what is the name of the logo on Grille 15's historical camo?

[valid gale]

It was not due to imbalance the turret drives and rotational system would not function on inclines which is a common problem for turrets

The kv2 toppling is a myth and is more of a result of kv2s attempting to fire on big inclines

[solid gate]

That’s interesting dogo

[calm lagoon]

im getting close to researching to e 75

something better than my current tier 9

[solid gate]

Yessss

I have the e75 rn and it’s really good. It’s what I would consider the best t9 heavy. Btw what tank do you have now 15divided?

[calm lagoon]

mauschen

not a great tank honestly

[solid gate]

The e75 is much much faster and the armor can technically be just as effective

[calm lagoon]

i originally wanted maus until the nerf.

[scarlet kernel]

maus for memes

[solid gate]

I don’t really know if I want the e100 but I’ll probably go for it. People say it’s not that great unless your a pro or sum

[calm lagoon]

im now grinding for e 100 since the alpha is great. and the health pool is crazy. armour, managable but not too great on the turret.

[scarlet kernel]

should i get progetto first or kranvagn? i will buy both in the end

[solid gate]

What do u want most

[scarlet kernel]

i have played the kran, but i kinda want to see if progetto is good

[solid gate]

Well then I guess you should go for the prog

[scarlet kernel]

hopefully i don't lose much credits

[solid gate]

Nah u should be fine, it’s a nice tank I think

[sullen abyss]

Progetto is fun

[solid gate]

I can't take the strain of the mauschen anymore. it's terrible

Slower than the tortoise half the time and the enemy team has already circled to my position while my team is on the other side because they circled their portion faster

[drifting grove]

RIP

[true galleon]

I thought maus was great tier x tank but Is 4 is great tier x

In YouTube I saw YouTube named WOTB joe and he make al lot of tank videos and it has meme sounds lol

[real plover]

If you think that’s funny, wait till you check out Comrades of the East

[solid gate]

I thought the armour would compensate for situations like that because If i was left alone, I'd be able to hold out till support comes back my way. I was met with the sad reality that i'm just as hittable as any other tank

[lone tendon]

hell yea lol CFTE is peak of blitz comedy, Joe's content is just some footage slapped with 'funny' sfx

Joe's first content is gold though, now its kinda bland

[amber blaze]

Not trying to be rude or anything but do u actually know how to play the maus?

[solid gate]

I know I'm not a support heavy so I'm usually a bit more to the front because I'm supposed to take the heat off the less armoured heavies (e.g T57). Try and stay hulldown wherever possible too. Well... that's if I can ever get to the front

[amber blaze]

Lol I can feel ur pain

[radiant coral]

Angle your turret to 30-45° degrees and you should be fine in Maus

[radiant jay]

hello I haven't played in a long time and i forgot everything. I can't find these in the tech tree, are they worth to keep or they're just a waste of space?

[thick trout]

What happened was WG decided to streamline the tech trees to stop sealclubbing and help new players and so they removed a load of low tier tanks, there's no real reason to sell them unless you like the small amounts of gold they can be sold for, or you like the garage spaces. Most of the tanks were nerfed fairly heavily and low tiers are very different so they probably aren't worth playing, but there's no particular reason to sell them.

[radiant jay]

@gentle nacelle @thick trout I see, thanks guys

[thick trout]

Np 👍

[violet timber]

Maus nerf did nothing, the Maus is still the same unless you try to snipe

[versed condor]

What do yall think about tier 8-9 japan meds

[final adder]

sta is fine

[violet timber]

STA-1 best tier 8 med lololololololol

[final adder]

and type 61 is pretty good at tier 9

[clear onyx]

any oppinion on the m5 stuart?

i think its kinda good if you coopurate

[drifting grove]

Best would be the Panther II, right? Or Chimera.

[violet timber]

Chimera is the best, Panther II is kinda meh

[drifting grove]

Okay.

[violet timber]

Here’s relative wr

[clear onyx]

can any one awnser?

[final adder]

used to be better

[clear onyx]

true

tho the stuart i own has about 78% win rate

you know why? cooparation

[final adder]

nah its just still really good

[untold moss]

Big oof at T-34-3 there

[copper swan]

monkeys buying T-34-3 and playing it badly

[thick trout]

It's relative WR so the players buying and using it have minimal impact

[finite sorrel]

i wish there was a recoil for tank guns

[violet timber]

I thought there was?

[valid gale]

There is

[finite sorrel]

i cant feel the tank recoil lmao

[valid gale]

You do know the tank weighs more than the gun and can absorb the blasts right

[finite sorrel]

ye

[valid gale]

And constant knocking is bad in a game about taking every shot you can

[solid gate]

how to play kv-1 this shit gets penned by everything in existence even an m4 sherman can pen it

[finite sorrel]

lol

is it just me or the kv1s got its 122 pen nerf

[violet timber]

It’s pen was nerfed but it’s reload was buffed

[spark roost]

Guys is the 60tp going to be op when is going to be released?

[vivid hearth]

What t10 prems/collectibles have a good/decent credit coefficient?

[delicate zinc]

if i grind a med should i do patton, e50m, or t62a?
maybe progetto or osmething?

[solid gate]

E50m is broken

You should go for it

Yea the 60tp is probably going to be really strong

[delicate zinc]

can the e50m hull down at all?

[plucky summit]

Yes

[boreal spruce]

E50M has a very nice armour profile for a med, its was already good because it had the armour, weight, and speed and then WG Buffed it! E50m over T62 for fun, M48 is a really good tank though (but i'm biased. ) Progetto is a very good medium .
it depends on your playstyle, what tank that you have is your favourite for fun wise?

[boreal spruce]

its the T110E5 except with a 150mm gun, and Russian angles instead of US thickness.

[plucky summit]

The hull and turret ring is bad

Well, 50TP’s hull is bad, 60TP’s is decent

[violet timber]

Russian angles till you realize the sides are incredibly weak

[solid gate]

They can’t make it too broken

[violet timber]

It won’t be broken, but probably very strong

[solid gate]

Yea

[boreal spruce]

its a good tank on PC, it has a K'91/M103's type of turret (good from the front but at a slight angle its crap) its a small heavy too, its not that big. and the hull is like the IS-6 with good from the front but again the sides are paper. a nice big gun though....

[west light]

Cool

[solid gate]

@everyone

I need help with playing the Japanese tier 6 medium Chi To I have difficulty playing the Japanese because of the lack of firepower and armor

[solid gate]

Yea it’s a trash tank the Chi to

Just grind it as fast as you can and move on

[sacred karma]

I have a Question, you know how there were Amphibious Tanks right, what if we made a Game mode like that, like the DD shermans, bit put the Same Concept on the PZ iv G and and T-34 or the Crusader, and all Teir V medium tanks

[quaint gust]

Would anyone willingly watch the replay i put in #replays

Someone said I should be reported because i camped on the big bridge and i wanna know your opinions if he was right or not. I killed 3 tanks and dealt 4.5k damage

[solid gate]

It has really crappy armor I'm worried if I'm going to face the same issue with the Chi Ri, I want the Chi Ri bc of the autoloader , I really am working on getting the IS 3 all I need are credits, if the Chi Ri doesn't meet my expectations then I will ditch the Japanese tech line, but do you know a nation that has a good medium tank line? I need tank destroyer recommendations also

[midnight leaf]

if you like autoloader you should play the french lights

[kind falcon]

Chi Ri autoloader is very fun but you don't get any improvement on armor over Chi To so you probably will face that issue. The 1s autoloader makes it worth playing though. If you want good mediums go for the Russian tree.

[solid gate]

I will try but I am focusing on German light and heavy atm

[solid gate]

So is chi Ri basically the same as chi to?

[kind falcon]

Yeah its the same mediocre mobility and thin armor but with an autoloader

[solid gate]

I might ditch the Japanese line

[kind falcon]

Probably a good idea. I recommend saving the line for until you have a lot of spare free xp to spend on skipping tanks or stock modules because if you can't do that, the Japanese tech tree is painful. The tier tens are worth it thoug if you are determined enough

[hard cedar]

The line isn't nearly as painful as people make it out to be, HOWEVER if you do not like paper tanks then 100% do not play japanese mediums they're all paper except for the t10

[violet timber]

STA-1 best tier 8 med lolololololololol

[hard cedar]

here we go again

[sage merlin]

lol

[compact wraith]

did you just try to ping everyone
in a server with 100,000 members

[solid gate]

Yes, yes I did

Alright, I'm considering going down the British tech tree which do you prefer

[hard cedar]

vickers

[solid gate]

What is that

[hard cedar]

T10 British light

[ancient iron]

ahoy friends in the vehicle realm! 😛 any advice or tips for the Mk 1 Defender or the AMX Defender?

[real plover]

🅱️ickers is for good players

[tame jungle]

Whole line sucks except the STB, which is a godly tank

[sacred trail]

Unload as much of your clip as you can and back away before they can begin to unload on you

They’re both drummer clips, so they fire decently fast

[fluid carbon]

i just got the E50M...my god its a beast

a literal mbt

[civic meteor]

IS-7 tips?

i got it and 46 winrate

[real plover]

i'd say E 50 M answers the question of "What if MBTs were in blitz"

[hollow notch]

Nah, the e50m has no pen

[nocturne tiger]

but.. the MBT-70 is literally in-game already

[valid gale]

It doesn’t count as it’s the wrong tank (kpz-70) and it’s a tier 9 with butchered stats so we don’t talk about it

[lyric copper]

the Type 61 ain’t half bad- it even has as much viewrange as the Vickers CR (but why)

[winged prism]

T57 sevriz

[fluid carbon]

yeah...the pen is pure ass...that's why i need to run cali no matter what...even with cali the pen is still ass

[spark roost]

Object 140 or T-62A witch one should i get first?

[dusky stirrup]

Many players prefer the T-62A to Obj. 140. T-62A has a better penentration and accuracy but not the speed and acceleration. Obj. 140 has a bit more better turret armor in sides than T-62A. But not in front. So it depends on your playstyle.

[violet timber]

62A is just a better tank overall due to the extra gun depression it gets

[dusky stirrup]

7° > 6°. So yes.

[thorny smelt]

I want to end my suffering with my KV-4. Is the 107 mm Zis gun with 200+ pen worth it?

[violet timber]

Yes.

[dusky stirrup]

Yes.

You don't know how powerful that tank is once maxed. (Unless the player lacks skills.)

[thorny smelt]

122 mm gun with 175 mm pen is so mediocre to meh for a tier 8 heavy tank. My KV-5 and other heavy tanks have 200+ pen on their main ammo.

[dusky stirrup]

Well, yes. Only thing it has is the DPM.

[thorny smelt]

I don't care about DPM when you have good pen

[dusky stirrup]

Even your 122mm's APCR isn't powerful enough to penentrate Tiger II's frontal armor. Except the cupola where you need to aim.

I remember the first match I played with that tank. It was a draw. And I ammo racked IS-3. And the last enemy was a Ru 251. Since my tank is slow and he kept on running, it was a draw.

[thorny smelt]

That's why E 100 is my first tier 10 tank because I feel comfortable with E 75 and Tiger II. They both need get penned with gold shells at least frontally. I'm now going for IS-4 and VK 72.01 k line

[dusky stirrup]

You should go for IS-4 line. Most recommended line.

[thorny smelt]

I got the IS-3 only because of the BL-9 gun so when I got the ST-I, i'm ready

[dusky stirrup]

The KV-4 (maxed) performs quite better and sidescrapes well. The ST-I is tier 9 IS-4. (Exclude the stock version.) And IS-4 is one of the best heavies currently.

[plucky summit]

KV-4 is definitely not better than IS-3

[dusky stirrup]

Better in terms of armor, gun penentration and sidescraping. Not in speed and turret armor though.

[thorny smelt]

I know. I feel comfortable with KV-5 so KV-4 has this some kind familiar feel to me.

[dusky stirrup]

KV-5 is much more weaker than KV-4 in terms of armor. I've experienced fighting against that tank several times. Still it's good, a bit.

[thorny smelt]

I love the KV-5. Such a troll tank with a powerful engine for a 100-ton tank. IS-4 is quite mobile, at least in paper.

[plucky summit]

Just be aware that KV-4 is comedically inaccurate, and the turret weakspots will force you to think about how you approach an enemy

All in all, IS-3 performs better than KV-4, it has arguably the best turret in tier 8 for armor, and at least standard AP for a russian 122mm

[drifting grove]

Russian tanks are a pain in the arse, penetration and dispersion-wise.

[plucky summit]

The penetration is fine, it's amazing how many armor plates 225 allows over a T32 or so

[thorny smelt]

The freaking aiming time is so big that made me wait for 8 seconds before I can finally shoot

[zealous anchor]

@spark roost I would think 140 is more fun in my opinion

[willow seal]

Don't get fooled by T62 having 5 more pen.
T62 has APCR as standard while Obj140 has AP which has better normalization so practically Obj140 has better penetration

As an example.

[grave bane]

sooo which one is better

[quaint gust]

Is this worth it?

Or not?

[grave bane]

no

[real plover]

Laughs in Leo 1 CS 257 mm of standard pen.

[wise moth]

Stay away from town areas; hide the lower plate and hulldown. Then blast away with 460 alpha. It’s a pretty straightforward tank

[willow seal]

Lmao, Leo 1. Imagine having trash normalization with your standard APCR

-This post was made by 121 gang

[torpid lagoon]

Should I go for Calibrated Shells on the AMX 50 100 or go Vents?

[wise moth]

Lmao 121. Imagine being as long as a heavy tank and completely unable to snap in shots

-This post was made by Leo 1 gang

[quaint gust]

2 of my team mates (the dead ones) were calling all of us cowards for not pushing the 4 alive enemies when the cap circle was at 87%.
Did i make the right call by staying on the cap circle?

[wise moth]

Vents. 50 100 already has fantastic pen for a tier 8, and it really needs the extra crew buffs provided by vents to improve the accuracy, traverse, and DPM

[willow seal]

Lmao, Leo1. Imagine not having any armour so you have to snap shots in instead of chilling for a sec

-this post was made by 121 gang

[hollow notch]

Imagine not having gun depression

[thorny smelt]

It is so depressing with that meager gun depression

[regal hound]

Should the Japanese Heavies be added?

[willow seal]

Imagine having only 350 alpha

[solid gate]

I have the Kv-4 but I never got a defeat with Kv-4 but I defeated mauschen with the kv4💯

[real plover]

Even if they wanted to, they can’t. They are literally too big for the game engine to handle.

[thorny smelt]

Too THICCC

[real plover]

So thicc that the servers can’t handle the weight.
insert TF2 spy laughing here

[feral lotus]

Balancing them would require some thought

esp the OI

[quaint gust]

Every single enemy tank was shooting at me. The yoh’s were behind me, a tortoise, e50 and some other tank were all shooting me.

[manic carbon]

Probably because you were in the middle of the map and the easiest/most isolated target to go for

[valid gale]

You can see in the mini map his team mostly went right but he decided to go mid in a is8 despite being low tier because that works….

[manic carbon]

A huge part of this game is making sure you aren’t putting yourself in crossfires against several enemy tanks.
Even after many years of playing, I still make the positioning error and put myself in a crossfire occasionally. It’s just about constantly being aware of your own positioning, as well as the enemy team and your own teammates

[drifting grove]

Last five battles, I've been doing ~2000 damage on average and taking very little in return, often blocking ~2000 on my Tiger II. I have 14 battles so far. Am I doing good?

[wise moth]

2000 average damage at tier 8 is pretty good

[drifting grove]

My first few battles were awful, so my overall average is ~1100. Still, I've only fought fourteen battles, so I can improve my stats easily.

[dusky stirrup]

Ah yes. Shell normalisation. APCR is 2° of shell normalisation.

[solid gate]

@everyone which is better VK 30 or VK 28

[plucky summit]

1. Don't ping everyone lol, it doesn't even work
2. VK 30 is easier to play, with that heavy hitting gun for a t6 med, with some random armor that works, VK 28 needs great game sense and positioning to make effective

Fellow Chicken :p

[solid gate]

Wanna platoon

[quaint gust]

Was this mm fair?? My team got absolutely steam rolled by the enemy team and i got killed because the friendly e100 rammed me to where the enemy were able to pen me and kept me pinned against a building.

[kindred wren]

The answer is yes

[quaint gust]

Ok good. Im just bad and got a worse team mate

Ok when i said i was bad game I didn’t mean this. I was exposed for 1 second and got shot by a grille 15, amx 50 i think and a chinese TD and then a B C 25 was in our spawn 30/40 seconds in

[solid gate]

YOUR choice return to you as their return them ! what you give you get !

[solid gate]

your ally are single players ! never care about team only play solo game !!

[quaint gust]

This was in a tier 10 lobby

[hard cedar]

2nd game sounds like it was completely your fault

[plucky summit]

Maybe in an hour or so

[violet timber]

2nd game you exposed yourself in a relatively lightly armored heavy, you just have to expect to be nuked

[quaint gust]

After about 2.5 months i did it

I just need another 2.8 million silver

[regal hound]

i grinded from Tier 1 to Mauschen in just 1 and half months

[quaint gust]

Bloody hell. Tho tbf i play for probably 2 hours a day because my phone gets pretty hot

[regal hound]

i play 12 to 15 hours a day 🙂

when using phone just 5 hours

12-15 is on pc

[quaint gust]

Fu… dging hell

[solid gate]

😍 😍

[quaint gust]

Pog. Im tempted to buy the defender bundle

[quaint gust]

HOLY SH******

[hard cedar]

i have an intense dislike of you

[boreal spruce]

14 day grind to the Maus. i love free exp

[boreal spruce]

🥳 wow, noice job!

[quaint gust]

I brought the defender bundle. I didn’t get the 260 but on the very last crate i got it!!! I GOT THE T-22 MED!! I have my first t10 tank!!!

[hard cedar]

😔

[violet timber]

T22 supremacy

[hard cedar]

more like is7 supremacy

[quaint gust]

It’s my first t10 tank in the game too!!!! And it was on the last crate!!!! Rng gods i love you!!!

[violet timber]

I’m fine with IS-7 supremacy, but for tier 10 meds, it’s T22 supremacy

[hard cedar]

hello do not say bad things about my leo 1
thank you have a nice day

[violet timber]

Leo 1 isn’t bad, T22 is just better

[hard cedar]

😠

[violet timber]

🤷‍♂️

[boreal spruce]

👍

[plucky summit]

Better at punishing foolish enemies :p

[quaint gust]

I GOT 6K GOLD from the crates!!

My first game in the t-22 went poorly as expected. I got ammo rack detonated but the enemy death star

[plucky summit]

#Don'tBuyT-22? 😳

Also I'm surprised you managed to expose yourself to a death star without even penning a shot

[quaint gust]

It wasn’t spotted. Had no clue it was still in their spawn 40 seconds in. It practically hadn’t moved for the first minute or so

[plucky summit]

That's what 183 is supposed to do ._.

[hard cedar]

it's his first t10 he doesnt know what happens in t10 games

[plucky summit]

I figured he's played IS-8 enough to know what a 183 does, especially if he's been hit by one

[hard cedar]

apparently not

[quaint gust]

I’ve seen like 7 death stars the whole time i played the is-8. And only 1 did i have a fight with, i won because he was in the flag on yamato and got shot by everyone. never saw the other 6.

[plucky summit]

Well, avoid them at all costs until it's been whittled down by your team (or you know how exactly to deflect a shot from one)

They have the largest caliber in the game, which translates to highest damager per shot, 930 with great pen, 1300 with enough pen to overtake your expectations

[hard cedar]

yes professor chicken

[quaint gust]

Im aware. I just didn’t know that it was still in their spawn. I got spotted by a waffentrager and immediately died

[plucky summit]

Well, if the enemy team is too quiet when the TDs should be somewhere, make that a red alarm to stay in cover until they've been spotted

[hard cedar]

protip don't yolo into enemy spawn at the start of a game
always a terrible idea

[quaint gust]

I wasn’t in their spawn. I was on the bridge on the city map. The big suspension one with a train yard under it.

[plucky summit]

LOL yeah don't poke past the highway on New Bay if you're not sure if anyone's there

TD's love watching

[quaint gust]

Normally I’m fine on that bridge. I have a clip from my is-8 to prove it.

https://youtu.be/KtHCMS1HIvU

[plucky summit]

Keep in mind because it didn't annihilate you for doing something one battle, that doesn't make you safe for another

[quaint gust]

Yeah but I always go there and I’ve never had that happen before

[plucky summit]

Well, pay attention to the minimap, if nobody is spotted, then be wary

[hard cedar]

That's only because you didn't poke into their spawn, and also that enemy team is.... questionable to put it nicely

[quaint gust]

That’s normally around the skill level i fight against

[hard cedar]

are you in reroll mm or smth

[plucky summit]

Well this is tier 10 now, you have to account for everything

[quaint gust]

Well i was a unicum player a week or 2 ago and now im at great.

[plucky summit]

Unicum isn't too hard to achieve ngl :p
As special as it seems, there are tons of bad players

[quaint gust]

As in from creation of my account in june to a week or so ago i was unicum that entire time

[hard cedar]

Checked your stats, that makes sense, you aged out of bot mm recently so naturally your stats will drop

[quaint gust]

Ooh. So that’s why some of my matches were easier and some harder??

[plucky summit]

Well, that's normal, but for bot MM it's supposed to be easier when you learn quickly

[quaint gust]

Yeah but some games I would get steam rolled which made it not easy

[hard cedar]

Everyone gets those games, since it's random mm

[plucky summit]

Well, the lesson from that ammo rack is to be superstitious about unspotted enemy TDs

The last thing the enemy TD wants is for you not to poke and proceed to be defensive

[quaint gust]

Okie. So rat sortof

[plucky summit]

Especially if it's a T-22, that thing can flash its gimmick anywhere.

[quaint gust]

Is it very ammo killable?

[plucky summit]

I don't know, but since it's a Russian medium, I assume it's decently weak

Info isn't on wotinspector =(

[quaint gust]

I use tanks .gg and console tankepedia for info mostly

[plucky summit]

Here's why T-22 is so appreciated, it abuses the game's penetration mechanics so much

[hard cedar]

tanks.gg is for wotpc don't use it

[quaint gust]

Jesus that’s a lotta red.

[quaint gust]

Armour values are roughly the same tho aren’t they?

[plucky summit]

Yeah, because the entire side that isn't the front plate or the bar is at an auto-ricochet angle for AP and APCR shells, nobody can penetrate it with them if you stay at that angle or less

[hard cedar]

no they're two different games I'm 99% sure they're not similar

[plucky summit]

Use wotinspector and you can check blitz's specs instead, there are major differences between the two

Take Tiger I for example

[quaint gust]

Oh okie I’ll use that then.

[hard cedar]

or blitzhangar if you're just looking at tank stats

[quaint gust]

Imma try a more cautious game in the t22 see how it goes

[plucky summit]

Yes, and try to keep your side decently widely angled, but not too much, it'll bait shots like nothing else

Hulldown as much as possible though

[quaint gust]

Most likely i just don’t have enough skill to play t9 and 10 lobbies yet

[solid gate]

Angle your armor to increase ricochet chances

[plucky summit]

That's a good idea, maybe you can grind another line or work for IS-7, get a better feel of the game

And look around blitzhangar, it's my go-to study site

[solid gate]

Hey guys I need teammates for tournament that's about to start 600000 credits tier 5-6

[plucky summit]

Y'know, I can go for an hour, but don't expect much, I'm not a frequent t6 player

[solid gate]

Starts at 8 send me a friend request at SovietChiken292

[plucky summit]

Also we gonna VC?

[solid gate]

Sure ig

[hard cedar]

wow chicken sealclubbing t6...

[solid gate]

I need credits to get IS 3 but I got is

[plucky summit]

Cry about it 😳

[hard cedar]

i am 😳

[solid gate]

Join vc

[quaint gust]

I made money!!

[plucky summit]

Yup, collector tanks be that way

[quaint gust]

I shot 6 times. No kills tho. Gonna change reload speed for pen i think

[hard cedar]

(t22 credit coefficient is trash)

[quaint gust]

Also should i used extra armour or extra hp?? Cause rn i have extra armour

[hard cedar]

hp

[quaint gust]

Is the hp always a must take?? Because in some tanks i do better with the armour.

[plucky summit]

Take HP

[hard cedar]

armor is only good on t92 and prog 65

[quaint gust]

Ok I’ll try the hp out

[quaint gust]

I got told to uninstall the game after i died in the amx defender lmao.

[boreal spruce]

what is this concept: "making credits?"

[quaint gust]

Well normally when i buy a tank above t5 i loose money for the first couple games consistently then i start making money slowly

[boreal spruce]

yep, and thats why WG only offers Permanent Enrichment up to tier 8....

[quaint gust]

Really

[hard cedar]

i can make credits at t10 😎

[quaint gust]

On console making credits at t10 is hard. You have to have good games and have the right tank for it.

Like if you use the 268 v5 you’ll barely make anything because it costs so much money per shell.
The death barn and star make no money at all just using standard ammo even with premium time

[hard cedar]

well it aint console fortunately

[boreal spruce]

at tier 10 the ammo starts to get expensive whilst the amount of credits you earn stays the same
for example, at tier 5 in my pz. IV. g. i earn 40,000credits on a good battle. the ammo is free so apart from my repair cost i earn 36,500 credits 💰
now at tier 10 in my E100, i do a good battle, earn 40,000 credits, but i shot 7 times, and so my ammo cost is 8,400 credits, taking away my repair cost all i earnt was .28,100.
so roughly all tiers earn the same, but the ammo cost get more expensive at higher tiers. 💸

E100 ammo cost

pz 3/4 ammo cost

[plucky summit]

I realize why I stopped playing tier 6

Literally every team doubled up ARL 44s, and only one strayed away with a Cromwell B and T-34-85 for two matches until they lost and resorted to completely braindead tanks

[karmic nymph]

Hellcat is so op

[plucky summit]

It really isn't =)

[karmic nymph]

It has a gun better than many tier 8 meds and is so mobile

[plucky summit]

Here's a fun fact

[karmic nymph]

I’d say that’s a pretty impressive gun, only difference is pen which doesn’t really matter cause it’s already a lot

[plucky summit]

I never said it wasn't an impressive gun :p

[frigid quest]

more proof on why alot of tier 8 meds (or most 84-90mm single shot ones) are bad 💀

[plucky summit]

I can say most tier 8s have bad guns because they don't have 284mm of HEAT penetration like BLTZ9000 does

[hard cedar]

Sounds about right 🤣

[plucky summit]

It's such a stupid tank for the game, literally rushing your enemies with overkill speed/armor ratio and a gun that's also broken, for what? Only bad traverse speed? 😤

[hard cedar]

💯 💯

[plucky summit]

Not to mention heavy hitpoints

Time to isolate myself in tier 10

[hard cedar]

Best tier
Ya better be Leo spamming

[violet timber]

Sheri and IS-7 spamming more fun

[hard cedar]

they are fun but both of them have such troll guns

[plucky summit]

I only have VK 28.01 😢

I'd rather just play AMX M4 mle 54 anyways

[hard cedar]

🤢

[plucky summit]

Go ahead, hate on me, at least I love unpopular tanks, and can make them effective

Tankenstein, T-2020, Lowe, AMX M4 mle 54, you name it, I probably haven't played it ._.

[hard cedar]

(hating on you only having vk not for playing m4)

[plucky summit]

Oh, yeah I'm a heavy player, I have FV4005 if I wanna sweat the skill ceiling

[hard cedar]

Leo better for sweat 💪 💪

[plucky summit]

Ok time to shower n sleep, knowing there's a bunch of bad players out there who'd run ARL 44 over even Strv 74A2

The fact I outplayed them with mediums shows the game how dumb ARL 44 is, it's draining their IQ points playing that hunk a' scrap

[hard cedar]

Ego boosting time !

[plucky summit]

😈

[nocturne tiger]

Ahh... Now that I have finally researched the Type 61... I'm going to sell the STA.

[nocturne tiger]

I'm finally done with all the painful grinds

[boreal spruce]

Tank lines that are nasty to grind through to get a good tier 10:
T110E3 🇺🇸
STB-1 🇯🇵
T110E3 🇺🇸
Fv.215b-183 🇬🇧
T110E5 (sorry, typo, meant to be T110E3) 🇺🇸
Obj. 263 🇷🇺
T110E3 🇺🇸
Wz. 113-G-FT 🇨🇳
and the T110E3. 🇺🇸

ticked them all off?
if so Congrats! i only have the 263 done..

[hard cedar]

Since when is the 183 or 113 good
And 263 "buff" just made it more niche

[kindred thorn]

i thought 113 had a good grind
while the tank was ehh

[nocturne tiger]

I actually meant the tanks I had like E-50 and STA-1

I do not have the balls to play through all of them

[frigid quest]

183 and 263 are trash

113G FT line isn't bad at all, its a good line if anything

[nocturne tiger]

I finally have the Kranvagn in my hands 🤩 🤩

[boreal spruce]

good tonk,

[frigid quest]

STB honestly isn't so good right now as the meta shifted to something that the STB doesnt really have a role without a handful of tanks doing the same thing but better

[thorny smelt]

I paused for grinding for the Foch and Ho-ri line and focused on The Broomstick of Death and YOLOwagon.

[boreal spruce]

🧹 🚓

[thorny ocean]

Was it worth Selling E75 For E100

[thorny smelt]

I kept mine but haven't played it after I got the E 100

[frigid quest]

i get why you want the 183 but the 263 is just garbage, only tank worth keeping in the 263 line is the SU-122-54

[thorny smelt]

The Broomstick of Death is also known as Jageroo and JgPz E 100. FV215b 183 is DeathStar.

[frigid quest]

Still a td you would only play for a bit of fun

Why is the 263 bad? 263s poor gun handling, firing arcs, and low hp forces the 263 to yolo mediums, and the 263 isn’t even the best at yoloing mediums because of the hp disadvantage

If you want the dpm gimmick, again gun handling. Also, the SU-122-54, jagtiger, and 4202 hesh have 4k+ with much better gun handling with the SU having broken camo rating and good mobility, jag has good armor and firing arcs, and 4202 is a med. For the same 3.8k DPM, you could easily play the AT-15

[mild narwhal]

Use amx 50b for ultimate sweat

[thorny smelt]

I'm still going for the YOLOwagon anyway but not going YOLO over what other players doing it by mistake. I stopped going for UK and US tanks altogether, also the autoloaders as they don't suit how I played the heavy tanks but I might restore the AMX 50 100 and carry on to AMX 50B. Even the tier 8 medium tanks like Panther II is put on hold. So they are lower in my priority and focus on grinding a line or two like the IS-4 and Object 263 or Jagpanzer E 100.

[frigid quest]

i mean, you do you, but don’t say that i didn’t warn you that the 263 is indeed still garbage. SU-122-54 might be fun to you though

[thorny smelt]

Alright. It is your opinion about the tank but I'll just go for it. JPanther II is quite ahead than the other tank destroyers I had because I feel somehow comfortable with the German heavy tanks and tank destroyers.

[sacred trail]

183 is good if you can actually aim the gun and pen with the HESH

[kindred thorn]

the problem is u r fat with no armor no camo

[rigid thunder]

The 263 is decent after the changes. The increase in mantlet armour basically makes it impossible to penetrate for most tanks (250 spaced + 70mm plate). The side armour increase was nothing special, but the traverse buff also makes it incredibly difficult to circle.
The accuracy nerf though, basically locks this tank out of any gameplay save for close range play.
The rework improved its ability to play in close quarters, while completely dumpstering its capability as a tank destroyer. The change only made the 263 even harder to play, as you need much more skill, map knowledge and awareness since your only play is going close quarters without a turret, trash gun angles, a weak 30mm engine deck, and a 60mm thick lower side. If you like the idea of this kind of tank, then go for it - the games you get will be inconsistent, but are really fun when things go the right way

[thorny smelt]

I noticed that most of my tanks either have good DPM or high pen, except for KV-4 as it still has that 175 mm pen 122 mm gun and I'm going for that 107mm Zis gun. I'm not in terms with SU-152 and go to SU-100M1 where I feel weirdly comfortable playing it like a hit-and-run kind of tank destroyer but I also snipe depending on the map.

My apologies. The office WiFi is utter crap.

[frigid quest]

263 went from a tank that can yolo meds that can sometimes snipe to a tank that can only yolo mediums. The armor isn’t bad yes, but all the armor buff really do is make the mantlet not a farmable spot for hulldown mediums. Heavies and tds can still cheese the 350mm superstructure and the mantlet simply isn’t worth shooting IN A BRAWLING SITUATION for mediums.

The gun handling nerf was simply overkill. Having worse aim time and dispersion than a foch, and the fact that the 263 has terrible horzantal arcs that makes the 263 have to turn often BASICALLY RESETTING YOUR RETICLE TO YOUR TERRIBLE OTM DISPERSION. Good luck trying to hit anything at 50m away let alone 200m.

If you yoloed a med successfully, then ask yourself “could the e50m, 113, is7, etc do the same or better?”

[rigid thunder]

yeah the dispersion nerf was disgusting, you miss way too many shots

[thorny smelt]

The gun arc may be small which I don't mind but yeah, the bad on-movement dispersion in general makes me adjust my gun a bit like this to the side or the other side just to land shots which made me feel a little irritated when I play USSR tanks. Oh that huge reticle bloom is pure MADNESS ever once I started playing with KV-4

[nocturne tiger]

no

[thorny smelt]

^^^^^

[solid gate]

is it me or does the is-7 feel better than the is-4

[zealous anchor]

more fun yes, as for whether it's better I think most people would say is4 is still better

[spark roost]

Guys should i get "FV201" or should i be saving my gold for halloween or Black Friday?

[thorny smelt]

Save it for Black Friday

[vale lily]

M26 good?

[hard cedar]

Your gun handling is trash so you can't do that

[thorny smelt]

I guess I'll get settled once I get to VK 45.02 B. VK 45.02 A is just a crappy Porsche version of Henschel's TIger II.

[spark basin]

263's engine deck armor hurts, the dispersion more so

[grand linden]

juan_carlos_sniper_iron would like to disagree

[hard cedar]

Wow Bettas back

[grand linden]

no im not

[deft notch]

Hi.
Find out what is this player's favorite tank ???

[spark basin]

arl 44 lmao

[deft notch]

Sorry I still have to be bored 15min so ... which tank does this player love ?

[spark basin]

wolverine?

[deft notch]

Yep gg, I haven't found anything else like that it's a long time

[spark basin]

my stats for this thing is really varied

[deft notch]

Yes like everybody.

[spark basin]

nah some people are way more specific

[deft notch]

yes

---

When you have the nickname of one of the bombs thrown at Japan, (your favorite tank is quickly seen)

||FV215b 183||

[wispy burrow]

hi how to play T 54

[violet timber]

Hull down, use dpm, bully other meds

[wispy burrow]

I go or at the beginning of the party

thank for the response

[spark basin]

wiggle a bit aswell

[wispy burrow]

thank

[frigid quest]

everything other than its gold pen is trash

[spark roost]

Guys is grille any good?

And is T-62A or object 140 any good?

[violet timber]

Grille is relatively good, and 62A over 140

[frigid quest]

All three are good tanks

62A and 140 are both the better meds in tier ten. Very good but there are better meds

[violet timber]

62A kinda lost its place and 140 was just pushed further down

[solemn cedar]

62a is good, a “jack of all trades”. but depending on skill, you’re better off going for the stb-1, leopard, or e50m

[violet timber]

Right now I’d suggest E50M or Patton over anything else

[frigid quest]

lol 140 still meta at least before, theres a reason comp teams still used the 140 seriously: 140 fulfilled the finnesse brawling role very well, can hulldown good enough (better tanks for that ofc), and no other medium other than e50m and maybe t22 are proper brawlers

[violet timber]

That’s in tourneys, in pubs 140 just gets stomped

E50M and Patton are just better tanks at this point

[solemn cedar]

This may not add up statistically, but I’m seeing a lot more players using leopard, Patton, e50m, and even 121 than 62a/140

[frigid quest]

not really, turret is still good enough to hulldown in (not all spots are ideal ofc but alot of typical hulldown spots are), still has russian dpm, fast, and can brawl

yes, m48/60 and e50m are better but the 140 is still one of the better meds. Its miles ahead of tanks like leo, 30 b, prog, and even the 121s

[violet timber]

Not really the 121’s but the other tanks are just not even close to meta right now

[thick trout]

140 is only used in comp for its speed and silhouette, it's a fun tank to play but for anyone around average the T62 is better than the 140

[frigid quest]

121 is decent but suffers from one major flaw that makes the 121 less flexable: atrocious otm dispersion

[violet timber]

It’s still a better tank than the 140

[thick trout]

^ 121 is still better in almost every other aspect though

[violet timber]

Armor and alpha make a huge difference

[frigid quest]

140 is simply more flexable than 121, 121 other than farming idiots is quite inflexable, firing on the move is a important attribute to mediums

[violet timber]

The thing is 121 acts more as a heavy due to its alpha and armor

[thick trout]

Change your playstyle to deal with the bloom and it's fine, the 140 struggles a lot until you get a player in it that can read a battle very well which is very few players

[solemn cedar]

Utilizing a low silhouette requires serious map awareness and understanding of the terrain.

[violet timber]

121 also has the same gun depression as the 140, however it has stronger turret armor making it more flexible

[frigid quest]

Its not really a playstyle thing. I do have a decent idea of how the 121 plays, and all it can really do is use its hull armor/traverse to bully non russian meds in a brawl and use its mobility to dig a spot. On the move, 121 is actually quite vulnerable while a 62a or 140 at least has a chance to shoot back

[solemn cedar]

The 140 only has 6 degrees. Tanks like the 121, and t-22 share the poor depression angles but the 121 has alpha that can trade with some 122mm. The t-22 has armor and a marvelous gun.

[frigid quest]

t22 right now really only has stupid side armor angles and pre nerf medium turret with no cupolas. Other than that, t22s terrain resistance is comparable to that of a pre buff e50ms and the gun is not special besides for 3.5k dpm and reload that lets you permatrack. Still one of the better meds imo

[thick trout]

It's a very different playstyle to the other russian meds. You work around the bloom by changing everything you do, and it stays a brilliant tank. Even if you don't try to work around it, it's more friendly than the 140

[frigid quest]

The alpha and hull armor is more for pub stomping, and the 121 looses otm dispersion, a rather important factor for mediums given that mediums move around often.

[thick trout]

If you make them move around often, not if you change your playstyle
Also this is all about randoms lol

[plucky summit]

Get mods to clap them, not only is it displaying a competitor, but they did it in quite a few of the channels
I'm actually so dumb, I coulda pinged them myself

[wise moth]

121 is pretty worthless. It’s got the length and central mounted turret of the 113, but not the armor to make it work, which seriously limits the amount of positions he can use. Also the complete inability to snapshot means that he has to sit still and let the enemy aim in on his weak turret to have a chance at hitting anything. And as a medium not being able to take full advantage of its mobility due to that is a death knell in today’s meta

[jovial totem]

I would 100% agree, bad aim time or accuracy spells death for any medium, especially early game when there isn’t enough knowledge of enemy tank positioning or even just overcrowding in the area you are in.

[manic carbon]

I love the 121, but it can be awkward to handle at times

[velvet lantern]

yeah ur aiming time is increased by small amounts

[jovial totem]

I hadn’t noticed

[velvet lantern]

pc is a lot easier in my opinion

[jovial totem]

I play on ipad and only play on my pc for light tanks for the easier aiming and movement

[velvet lantern]

oh wow

i used to play ru251 on ipad my winrate was in the toilet i swear

[jovial totem]

I’m not a massive fan of the t49

[velvet lantern]

my favorite is either 251 or t49

but t49 on mobile is so hard i swear my damage is always under 2k on mobile

[jovial totem]

It can be really fun to play when it goes well in the right positions, but if it’s more of a closed game and i’m on my ipad, it goes terribly most of the time

[velvet lantern]

its so fun making wt eat ass tho ngl

[jovial totem]

That’s the problem with all light tanks

[velvet lantern]

but my only problem with t49 it has literally no armor

its not like the bulldog or ru251 where you can get occasional bounces

[nocturne tiger]

why would that be an issue on light tanks

[jovial totem]

I almost never get bounces on the bulldog

[velvet lantern]

and t49 is always targeted by big guns, should get a small armor buff

[jovial totem]

Armour is never a bad thing, as long as it doesn’t detract from the speed too much

[wise moth]

fwiw, neither the bulldog or ru251 are actually bouncing any shots; they’re triple overmatched literally everywhere by literally every gun they can encounter. The only way you “bounce” a shot is when they hit your tracks and miss your primary armor

[velvet lantern]

no enemy aims wrong and hits angled frontal plate

[valid gale]

Bulldog and ru 251 are thinner than 30-20mm

[jovial totem]

He’s right, if you are hull down or something, you can get autobounce zones on some tanks like the comet and stuff

[velvet lantern]

bulldog has a good gun though

[wise moth]

I don’t think you guys understand what “triple overmatch” means…

[frigid quest]

bulldog is mostly outclassed by the m41d because the m41d can actually use rammer

[jovial totem]

Sorry, didn’t mean go reply to you

[plucky summit]

I just say overmatch, since any other way would simply be a penetration

[wise moth]

I say triple overmatch as opposed to double overmatch

[velvet lantern]

bulldog gun pen is kinda cringe but dpm isnt that bad

[frigid quest]

Ah yes, people like droodles not giving correct definition of overmatch confusing the players

[jovial totem]

What is it then?

[plucky summit]

Yeah, I do suppose the 2CR has a super-prevalent impact on penetrating thin armor

[velvet lantern]

leopard pta stock 😦

[wise moth]

If the caliber of a shell is 3x greater than the nominal armor thickness, the shell cannot autobounce, and will attempt to penetrate regardless of angle.

And this is stacked on top of the double overmatch rule, which significantly decreases the angle of impact, making a non-penetration all but impossible

[jovial totem]

Thanks for the explanation

[jovial totem]

Literally anything other than tier 1 and 10 stock 😦

[wise moth]

Basically, what it means is that this T69, despite having one of the lowest penetration numbers in the entire tier, quite literally will not bounce off the RU-251 upper plate, even at this absurd, almost perfectly horizontal angle @jovial totem

[plucky summit]

Droodles has spread a lot of misinformation, he's displayed that APCR has 2.5 degrees of normalization, and I think he said 85 auto-rico for HEAT instead of 80, not sure about that though

[velvet lantern]

t69 is kind of rare

[wise moth]

It’s kinda rare, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s 170mm AP pen is lower than every other tier 8 other than the KV-5 DPM gun

[velvet lantern]

t69 isnt very good tbh but still more playable than the t49

[jovial totem]

I agree

[hollow notch]

Lol

[frigid quest]

t69 is not your average 84-90mm single shot mediums thats garbage however

[wise moth]

Here look, the Comet can do the same thing. The angle is so flat I had difficult even clicking the upper plate here

[hollow notch]

T49 is actually amazing
Tf u on

[plucky summit]

T... 69... meme comp

[jovial totem]

Wow, even the comet with it’s nonexist pen can do that?

[velvet lantern]

wdym bro i wanna know what ur smoking

[hollow notch]

more playable than the t49
Nice edit noob

[plucky summit]

You don't play T49, you abuse T49

[wise moth]

Yes, because the Comet’s 77mm gun triple overmatches the 25mm front plate on the RU. The RU (and also the bulldog) literally will never bounce anything. It’s physically not possible

[velvet lantern]

t49 needs armor buff

[plucky summit]

No, no it doesn't. It's a fun and relatively balanced tank to play

[jovial totem]

If you need the extra armour in a t49, you’re playing it wrong

[velvet lantern]

it would be helpful

[hollow notch]

T49 is pennable, obviously it need an armor buff
400mm all around would do the trick

[jovial totem]

Of course it would, but it’s not necessary. It’s balanced as it is

[plucky summit]

Helpful for T49, harmful for the game =)

[velvet lantern]

all the tds shift around and aim HE at you

[hollow notch]

cover

[plucky summit]

Wow! It's almost like being a really fast tank often comes with bad armor!

[jovial totem]

As the tds have done and will always do, you have to learn to avoid them

[hollow notch]

By the time the tds realize they are nuked I'm gone

[velvet lantern]

it might just be me but i swear its not a t49 game if i dont get hit with a HE shell by wt

[hollow notch]

100% user error

[plucky summit]

Skill issue? 😳

[jovial totem]

You have to use the speed and camo to avoid them, if you can’t do that, the tank’s just not for you

[velvet lantern]

but no because the speed and camo just dont compensate for the amount of HE shells coming my way

also sheridan vs t57

[hollow notch]

Imagine the wtpz4
It doesn't even have the speed

[plucky summit]

It does if you use the ultimate counter to HE shells, not getting shot at all 😳

[velvet lantern]

is sheridan better than t57

[hollow notch]

Sheridan is not comparable to the t57...
At all

[plucky summit]

Heck, you can abuse the fact that HE shells are bad against external modules and spaced armor, and force the enemy to either fire at your side (where the tracks will block most of them), or the frontal turret (where the gun mantlet blocks most of them)

[velvet lantern]

no but if ur playing t49 then youll eventually get to the crossroad

[hollow notch]

Easily sherry

[velvet lantern]

how so

[hollow notch]

Zoom and boom

[velvet lantern]

literally the shortest way ive ever seen it put

[plucky summit]

I say T57 Heavy is more independent, since it can often stand on its own, though Sheridan is useful for last tank standing situations, where speed and alpha are good for finishing off weak enemies and getting away with it

[velvet lantern]

which one would you get?

[hard cedar]

sheri for sure

[plucky summit]

Well, for me it'd be T57 because I love heavies with good guns and workable armor, though T57 doesn't exactly have usable armor, it's RNG for that

[velvet lantern]

ok ill get sheridan

[wise moth]

What you should do to try to mitigate HE shells is turn your side to them and have your turret face them as well. Since the majority of the sides are covered by your tracks, and the majority of your turret front is covered by the mantlet, the area that they will be able to pen with HE becomes pretty small; as opposed to exposing your front hull, which they can pen the entirety of

[velvet lantern]

actually a pretty good tip thanks

sheridan vs sheridan missile\

[plucky summit]

I'd rather fire HE/SH against sheridans in my 183 because I want to make them suffer =)

[hard cedar]

id rather take a 500 hesh than a 930 ap

[plucky summit]

Imagine splashing your HE/SH because you rushed the shot

[plucky summit]

Doesn't matter, missile is more fun when the fun modes are out, but Sheridan can actually play normal battles

Not like you're getting Missile anyways

[velvet lantern]

lol ok

[vale lily]

Any tips for T20?

[nocturne tiger]

Recommended equipment for Kranvagn?

[boreal spruce]

Calibrated Shells (cause the tank has insane HEAT so why not? 374mm)
Improved modules (cause the tonk is very light for a heavy 44tons)
Improved optics( cause why not?)
Supercharger (cause the gun will have great pen over distance then)
Improved assembly (unless you're playstyle is more hulldown then go for Enhanced Armour)
Engine accelerator (because speed to get to a point in a heavy is important)
Refined Gun (unless you have optic consumable. then go for Vertical Stabilizer)
Everything else your choice.
this is how i run it its your choice otherwise IMO

[valid gale]

Those are terrible choices for the krans gun

It doesn’t need supercharge as it’s already APCR for standard and it’s accurate enough with refined

[hollow notch]

Reasons to use supercharge: shell velocity

If you are using supercharge for any other reason, don't use supercharge

[slender cliff]

Fax

[solid gate]

So I just got the IS 3 and deflected 1500 dmg before being destroyed and I do 500 dmg

[kindred wren]

Camping Skorpion Gs: „My needs are beyond your comprehension“

[hollow notch]

Ah yes, for those 1000 meter engagements

[slender cliff]

Am I the only one who runs supercharge on the su-152?

[hollow notch]

I run supercharge on basically everything

[slender cliff]

Even on the grille?

[hollow notch]

Ya

[kindred wren]

400 metres is more than enough

[slender cliff]

Chad

[hollow notch]

Skorp literally has the best pen loss over distance over all tier 8 and 9s

[violet timber]

You just don’t understand the super Unicom strats that real Skorp G players use

[kindred wren]

Not when you shoot prammo 🙂

[hollow notch]

You need prammo?

[kindred wren]

As you can clearly see, the needs are beyond your comprehension

[hollow notch]

I guess you sometimes just gotta go for that vk100 upper plate

[slender cliff]

Apcr with supercharger is 😈

[solid gate]

IS3 is awesome

[boreal spruce]

i run it on my kv2

supercharger increas sheridan missiles' ATGM from 45m/s to 59m/s or 162km/h to 212km/h. so supercharger on Sheridan missile go Brrrrrrr👀

[valid gale]

It doesn’t affect the missile btw

[kindred wren]

Plus, the missile actually flies 75m/s so…

[solid gate]

I ammoracked a LTTP with my hellcat

[thorny smelt]

Do you mean LTTB?

[solid gate]

Yea

[plucky summit]

Naw you meant the tier 3, LTP 😵

[solid gate]

NO

[plucky summit]

😂

[solid gate]

It was a LTTB I barely saw the back of him and fired and he went KABOOM

[delicate zinc]

😐

[thorny smelt]

Any thoughts about the VK 45.02 B? I'm getting tired of using the VK 45.02 A. Thr crappy Porsche version of Henschel's TIger II.

[onyx sluice]

It's a confused tank. It has the rear turret and weak lower plate that would make you think it's good at side scraping.

But if you look at its side armor it is angled outwards, reducing it's effectiveness when side scraping and making over angling a problem and it's armor is only a 100mm.

[thorny ocean]

f...

[thorny smelt]

I won't over-angle but I love that I can side-scrape with German heavies. At approx. 20-230 degrees, it has 300+ mm of effective armor

[regal bough]

it will feel so nice to have decent armor again when going from vk 45.02 a to b

[onyx sluice]

I'm just warning you, the E75 is better in every single way.

IMO the VK line should be removed entirely.

[thorny smelt]

Yeah. I like I said, VK 45.02 A is a crappy Porsche version of Henschel's Tiger II.

@onyx sluice I'll be fine anyways. I'm aiming for VK 72.01 K, the Heavy Lowe, next after my E 100. I know E 75 has much better armor.

[onyx sluice]

Best of luck man.

[thorny smelt]

This is gonna be my first rear-turreted tank so I don't need to worry about shooting front and show my booty instead.

[cyan drift]

when will is 4 line get hd textures

🙂

[solid gate]

Which is better IS 7 or IS 4

I am currently going down IS 7 and am at the IS 3

[thorny ocean]

..

Even though IS-7 Can be easily ammoracked?

how...

[valid gale]

The ammorack is such a meme it rarely happens as much as people like to go “haha funni tank anmoracks”

[thorny ocean]

oh ok

[hollow sequoia]

is4 is just drive, shoot and bounce stuff

[valid gale]

In reality the E5 literally suffers ammo damage more often lol

[slender cliff]

Nais

Yoh 3 shot is nice sometimes but I find the 2 shot to be more satisfying

[static harness]

It's like the kv2
107 for stats and 152 for suffering fun
(105 stats/120 fun)
let the fight begin!

[slender cliff]

That’s true. I like to use the 3 mag on event modes. But the big draw back is the intraclip reload. 310 damage is so little and while I am trying to pump out damage I’m left out in the open which makes me lose hp.

[slender cliff]

I agree. Switching between the two is hard

[sullen abyss]

Facts, vk 72 is so much fun

[copper swan]

if not getting whacked by the side

If a VK 72 cannot use it's armour effectively then it will suffer because lower dpm than E 100

[lyric copper]

IS-4 is the monotone, do all things so well it gets boring- tank

[slender cliff]

It can though. It has a better armor profile than e-100

[zealous anchor]

factss

[boreal spruce]

IS-7 vs Foch, who will win!!??

Foch won.......
Dont Buy IS-7

[kindred wren]

This was as predictable as WG putting new tanks in crates

Can I just say that the IS-7 doesn‘t explode all the time when someone shoots it? And if the rewok goes through as it is right now, it will be one of the strongest pushers in the entire game

[hollow notch]

Explosion causes ragequit
fun

My is7 was ragesold probably 2 years ago now, and it's not returning anytime soon

[kindred wren]

🤯

[boreal spruce]

its a good tank, it does ammor rack more than some tier 10s but hey, not much

[manic carbon]

Try the E5, or Soviet/Chinese mediums

[static harness]

Chinese tanks are made of sheet metal covered in gasoline anyway

[grave bane]

soviet mediums

which one tho

[manic carbon]

A lot of them. Worst culprits in my experience have been the T-44 and Object 140

[wise moth]

Ding ding we have a winner!

Communist mediums are by far the worst for ammo racks. At tier VIII they have ridiculously low module HP, and at tier X, they have the same low module HP as the IS-7, but unlike the IS-7, whose ammo is placed in small and well protected spots, communist mediums have their ammo sitting in the side hull where any hits can easily blow them up

[manic carbon]

Pretty much. At least the IS-7 has its ammorack behind the pike nose and side armour plating. The mediums have a much more vulnerable hull and the ammorack is easier to hit

[light laurel]

just got it. is it gud??

[hard cedar]

it is good but why the hell you running 50% crew

[blissful hamlet]

The guy bought provisions and prammo, but no 75% crew?

[kindred wren]

It‘s actually not gud 👀

[vale lily]

He prolly ran out of creds