vehicles-discussion

[kindred wren]

Well, just thought you might be interested

Check it out if you want

[plucky summit]

I’ll stick to drawing cursed tonks

[kindred wren]

Your choice

[thorny mulch]

Su-152 imo best tier 7 td

[static harness]

For missing every shell and butchering your aim stats
Just like kv2 :)

[violet timber]

My time has come. The Type 61 is your average tier 9 med, bad till you get the gun. It also lacks armor, just like the STA-1. Unlike the STA-1, the Type 61 has some workable mobility. My suggestions would be to play it hulldown in more of a supporting role and to always have a way to retreat should the need arise

[nocturne tiger]

Oh, then should I use my free exp to get the top gun and turret quickly?

[violet timber]

Yes.

[boreal spruce]

M48A2 Raumpanzer? its a M48 at tier 8 which is slow and has a massive cupola and has a dozor blade that can confuse enemies on where to shoot your front plates. Anything else a good reason to buy it? (if it comes out NOT in crates )

please dont come in crates.... WG.....👉 👈

[hard cedar]

It will come in crates

[valid gale]

Yes 1. Who cares it’s a patton for tier 8 theres literally two other patton clones at the tier
2. The vindicator has a bulldozer and it doesn’t do anything to prevent it from being a push over

[kind falcon]

what are the other tier 8 patton clones?

unless you mean T95e2 and 59-patton

[valid gale]

Those are the ones I’m referring to they basically are sort of the same and same turret

[hollow notch]

Sort of the same turret go brrrrr

[solid gate]

could anyone tell me why and how this fv215b has an extra 258 hp ? I thought you could get only bout 160 hp or so from equipment. I also met a Black Prince player with a 200+ increased hp..
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/750781432938496010/881958818848862258/image0.png

[plucky summit]

Sandbag provisions

[solid gate]

whats that?? is it available on all tanks

[plucky summit]

It's a special provision for that line, it just adds HP

[solid gate]

oh i see

[violet timber]

E5 also has them, not sure about the M103 or T32 though

[solid gate]

hm

[thorny mulch]

You dare challenge me mortal?

[boreal spruce]

Kranvagn without HP buffers

With Sandbags and equipment

[plucky summit]

Why did you spoil the image? xD

[boreal spruce]

i still think the whole idea is ridiculous
Why not take away the sand bags and buff it back to 2400hp.... meh IMO

[solid gate]

damn, do german tanks also have the sandbag provision? shite wish japanse tanks did too

[solid gate]

lol i thought so too, so i deleted it 👀

[boreal spruce]

Even though the symbol is a German vk I don't think any Germans have it ? I may be wrong.

[solid gate]

shite, forgot, kranvagn is from EU line,, thought from germany at first lmao...

[boreal spruce]

T29 - T110E5 have it. Emil-1 to Kran have it. Black Prince to Fv215B have it. it seems to be only for Heavy tanks.

Whenever i see it... WG. Halloween tank??? A cursed Vk. 30.01P?

[slender cliff]

I like how wg added era to ww2 tanks through consumables lol

[hard cedar]

pudel also has it for some reason

[boreal spruce]

? does Pudel have the ERA consumable?

[hard cedar]

era? It only has sandbags

[boreal spruce]

few 🙃

[slender cliff]

Bruh

[rigid thunder]

It's WG's way of adding a bandaid to an inferior bret panther

[sterile briar]

Lol

Is it just me or is the t28htc underrated

[sterile briar]

3
there's the Chinese one type t34 although technically just the soviet t34 re named

[winter flower]

So you guys now about the MS-1 1926 camo. So I got it from my friends account but not my account. Me sad, and I got the MS-1 for him.

[onyx sluice]

There's also a T34 in the European tree.

[surreal blade]

I've opened more than 20 crates and still no 1926 camo .( free crates that I get every day and those you got when the event started)

[boreal spruce]

i got 80K xp on the Tiger P. i have an E 100 already. should i go for the Jg. E100 through the Ferdinand or go for the Maus or Vk72, i have most of the Krupp guns and engines so Vk 72 grind i only have to grind some turrets and suspension....

or should i get the Jageroo? or Maus??? Or panik!! 😵‍💫

🇦 =Maus= okay stock grind but then i have a big german tank.
🇧 =Vk72 =Easy Stock grind but then i will have anther big german 15cm tank
🇨 =Jageroo = Stupidly big stock grind but i get a 17cm td!

[thorny smelt]

I think VK 72.01 K would be easy since you already done the E 100 line. Just some turret, engine, and suspension upgrades and you're done with it.

[balmy ridge]

the kv4 sucks

[sacred trail]

If you’re gonna go through the Ferdinand for the Jageroo, consider your progress with the Jagdpanzer IV and Jagdpanther before deciding whether to go with it or not since Jagdpanther II is also another one-way branch to the Jagdtiger

[rose gulch]

So in update 8.3 is-7 is now worth to grind?

[static harness]

Try me
While grinding both of them I used the 122 on the su and the 107 on the kv, because I was so tired of 0 damage games

[heady current]

i need help, i still have no idea which Tier 10 to get and i dont wanna waste the 50% research certificate

[static harness]

Depends
What is your preferred playstyle?

[spark basin]

is the research cert gonna last until the release of the polish line or no

[heady current]

i generally like more agile tanks like lt/mt

[static harness]

For light I'd say vickers or Sheridan
And for mediums
I guess t62a (because that thing is just stupid), e50m, stb1, Tvp or perhaps even fv4202 now

(Someone will probably correct me on these because that's how this server is)

[violet timber]

For lights get Vickers, no other light matters.

For meds go for E50M, M48, or 4202

[hard cedar]

Sheridan.

[violet timber]

Vickers is just better.

[heady current]

im tempted to go after vickers light but is the IS-4 and IS-7 good? as they are pretty agile tanks as well

[violet timber]

IS-7 is gonna become op next update so you can go for that if you want a heavy

[heady current]

H D g r a f i k (btw ty @violet timber @static harness for the help)

[violet timber]

IS-7 is so hot with pbr

[heady current]

yos

[violet timber]

Gonna become my most played tank next update

[heady current]

see an IS-7 turret blowing off in HD

[violet timber]

Mmmmmmm

[west rapids]

???? I don’t read dev blogs so elaborate pls

[violet timber]

IS-7 is gonna have an impenetrable turret from the front and the sides are getting buffed

[heady current]

i guess the ammorack weakness is to balance it

[plucky summit]

But an actual weakspot to fire at

[ebon sail]

Who is Best mauschen ir jagdtiger?

[manic carbon]

Jagdtiger

[ebon sail]

I sell the mauschen and Buy jagdtiger?

[plucky summit]

Focus both lines, don’t just sell one, gain experience before you get to tier 10

[ebon sail]

So i sell it or no

:/

[hard cedar]

That's a no sir

[thorny smelt]

Jagtiger 8,8 cm with 350 avg damage, 235 mm pen, and 5.9 second reload? My AMX M4 49 is shaking.

[onyx sluice]

Honestly the E75 TS seems better to me, it has a turret and side armor which allows you to side scrape.

[plucky summit]

Honestly another tier 8 heavy is better because of the profitability, and serves greatly to players who want usable armor and a great gun :)

[thorny smelt]

Not to mention HE protection

[heady current]

the spaced armor on the sides bully my T49

[winter flower]

No, so first I did that to me account, then i didn't open my friends creates until i got the ms1

[hollow notch]

Still has a juicy turret

[heady current]

yep but 167mm of pen in Tier 8 is horrific

[violet timber]

560 average damage is amazing on such a mobile chassis

[ornate coral]

Scam link!

[real plover]

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[calm drum]

Señorita#2001 was banned

[boreal spruce]

@thorny smelt@sacred trail Thanks for that!!! I think I will keep the Tiger P and grind first the Ferdinand and then get the vk100p. because I don't want another tier 10 15cm heavy........ (not enough Credits! 💸

So what pointers should i know about with the Ferdinand?
Jagdtiger?
Jageroo (Jg. E100)?
Tips?

[plucky summit]

Use JPan II instead :)

[sacred trail]

First off, the VK 100.01 P leads to the Maus which doesn’t have a 15 cm gun, just the 12,8 cm.

Ferdinand compared to Jagdpanther II has the Tiger P’s less-effective flat armor (not angled, less “effective” armor) and mobility in exchange for more HP, and wider angles for its guns, which go from 88mm, to 105mm, to 128mm. Just get through it quickly since the Ferdinand is not the preferable option, but get the engine and suspension too so you don’t get stuck trying to leave spawn.

Jagdtiger has the approximate armor profile of the Tiger II and automatically has a 128mm gun. The better one has more accuracy and faster reload. The engine might be a bit lower depending on your research, but the suspension will be stock by default.

Jageroo has the approximate armor layout on the chassis of the E 100 (impenetrable upper plate, thin lower plate), but has a slightly thinner face on the superstructure compared to the upper glacis with approximate turret side armor of the E 100. Use your gun mantlet to bounce if possible since it’s super-thick. Mobility is gonna prove the most cumbersome of the three, so train your crew so you can turn faster. The 17cm gun packs a serious punch if it pens, but it also has a considerable dispersion and reload.

In summary, you’ll most likely be a mid/frontline TD because of superior HP and armor, but you can still camp if you want if you have reliable accuracy. Don’t let them flank you, though, since your hull traverse is slow.

Did I miss anything?

[kindred thorn]

get jpanther 2 instead

[violet timber]

Don't grind Ferdi from the Tiger P, you need double the xp you'd need if you were to grind it from the JPanther

[boreal spruce]

Thanks for the great info mate! i think iw ill get the ferdy first and then the vk100. if im still enamoured with the tiger p i will research the vk45 and then sell the tigerP

[violet timber]

Please, I beg of you, if you are truly that set on the Ferdi, get it from the JPanther, not the Tiger P

[silver lava]

What the panther like?

[violet timber]

Panther is a pseudo heavy with insane levels of pen, a fast firing gun, but a bit slower and the armor can fall apart in the wrong situations

[silver lava]

Even tho its a med?

[violet timber]

It's a med yes, but it's armor is approaching that of a heavies. However it's mobility does take a bit of a hit compared to the average tier 7 med

[silver lava]

Ahhhh

Ok thank u :3

[violet timber]

Of course

[thorny smelt]

Panther II is so painful for me to use. It will become better again once I get to E50 and E50 M?

[violet timber]

E50 stock isn't much better. Though, once upgraded, E50 is a lovely little ram machine. E50M, the crown jewel of the rammers, is just an absolute beauty of a tank now

[mild narwhal]

Damn jg 2 has a 17cm now?

"the 17cm packs a punch if it pens"

._.

[thorny smelt]

I'll just use free XP when possible.

[violet timber]

That's the tier 9 medium experience for you. Free xp simulator

[thorny smelt]

I'm on 30-day subscription so I don't need to worry about my free XP.

[violet timber]

I'm saving up right now for 60TP

[hard cedar]

that fxp won't last you long

[thorny smelt]

I won't spend so much on free XP though. I'll check if there are modules that are already unlocked from the Panther II. I have lots of boosters from getting the Jagdtiger 8,8 cm bundle so this is huge plus for me.

[slender cliff]

Did the 8,8 get buffed.

[hard cedar]

the panther 8,8 or the jag 8,8

[slender cliff]

Jag 8,8

[grand linden]

It got buffed from 310 to 350 alpha the apcr didn't change tho

[thorny smelt]

SU-130PM is my next premium tank destroyer I want to buy

[violet timber]

130PM is pretty fun

[hard cedar]

i would love it if the gun wasn't painful

[violet timber]

I personally like it more than the skorp

[hard cedar]

i dont have skorp but i would rather have the mobility and camo
the gun just ruins the vibe 😔

[thorny smelt]

Skorpion G has similar gun to SU-130PM that both are of 130 mm caliber. The nice thing about Rheinmetall Skorpion G is that the turret is 180 degrees left to right (accdg to BlitzHangar) as oppose to 70 degrees for SU-130PM

[hard cedar]

unfortunately not
gun handling is miles better

[violet timber]

Skorp is also quite a bit larger

[hard cedar]

indeed

[violet timber]

Honestly, the tanks themselves are quite similar looking, but tend to play a bit differently

[hard cedar]

i dont think they look similar

[thorny smelt]

I just want both of them LOL

[violet timber]

460 alpha guns, good camo, paper armor. On paper they are quite similar

Skorp just gets a fully traversable turret in return for a larger size

[hard cedar]

I thought you meant in terms of actual looks

[violet timber]

I mean... they both have a 128/130mm gun? No rear turret armor?

[hard cedar]

they still don't look similar ? the hull design and turret design is quite different

[violet timber]

Yeah, they just have relatively similar statistics

[thorny smelt]

A bit higher DPM but low shell velocity

[hard cedar]

the skorp also has way better gun handling

[hollow notch]

130pm is faster

[hard cedar]

and has better camo

[violet timber]

My problem is just how massive and HEable the Skorp is. The SU-130 reminds me much more of the small, sleek little sniper

[thorny smelt]

Yeah. Low dispersion and aiming values

SU-130PM has higher credit coefficient values than the Skorpion G

[hard cedar]

i wouldn't really use coefficient to say which tanks better

[thorny smelt]

Actually most of us don't though since we all know premium tanks give us more credits than tech tree ones.

[hollow notch]

Superpershing op
Lol
if you don't look at anything other than the coefficient

[violet timber]

As we all know 1v1s are 100% the best way to tell which tank is the best

[hard cedar]

i killed a prog in my sta 1 once therefore the sta 1 is a better tank

[violet timber]

Well STA-1 is the best tier 8 med

[kindred thorn]

so true

[slender cliff]

You would be food for isu

[hard cedar]

can't be shot at if you're not spotted

[hollow notch]

I haven't played in a while, but what the heck.
Why is the sherry hitskin permanently pink? I thought hitskins were improved not made less accurate

[kindred thorn]

auto ricochet angle
i think

[violet timber]

Yup, Sheridan hitskin is now broken. Have fun :)

[kindred thorn]

Oh all of it is pink?? lmao

[hollow notch]

Not even close the 130 on the 263 completely overmatches the hull

[hard cedar]

too many people complained about not being able to pen spaced armor so wg just made the whole thing red

[violet timber]

Jokes on you, the Sheri's space armor is now 500mm thick

[hollow notch]

Imagine seeing a sherry for the first time

[thorny smelt]

It looks beheaded to me LOL

[hollow notch]

Just crushed like a can for 1400hp

[thorny smelt]

Or like Cruella de Vil after being baked from a cake factory

[turbid jacinth]

I’m still new to the game with about 300 battles under my belt… just picked up a Chinese Type-59… is that a good drop?

I don’t know anything about it

[hard cedar]

It's not bad just powercrept

[turbid jacinth]

👍🏻

Thank you

[hard cedar]

also if you gambled on crates I recommend you don't in the future, you got lucky with the 59 but probably won't get that lucky later on

[slender cliff]

I suggest you start from where you are unless you already have a tier 8. Or train in training battles with it.

[turbid jacinth]

Sounds like good advice

[turbid jacinth]

I’m at tier 6 in the tech tree. Still getting the hang of fighting off tier 7s

[hard cedar]

still don't gamble

[wise moth]

WG didn't actually make them more accurate (they made them less accurate actually)

All they did was make things redder

They took spots that shouldn't have even been red in the first place after 6.0's hitskin reworks, and decided to make them even redder

[frigid quest]

the 62a armor model especially its hull is really off

[hollow notch]

It's a freaking sheridan
Nothing in tier 10 can bounce on its hull

Hitskin: I give it a 50/50

[static harness]

I managed to bounce one with my Leo (I suppose it was the engine deck? No clue)
Didn't hit the spaced armor and you heard that wonderful "ping" sound
That was also the only time ever )))

[kindred wren]

Yeah, I actually hate that because they hide many weakspots like that

[hazy ingot]

Finally 100% my fv4005, my impression on this tank is.... It's just awesome, the gun is literal beast (you must wait enemy to came out of their cover and feeling safe, for you to shove the entire mag on them), the armor, it has no armor, that's why situational awareness is needed, also it's not team dependant, the chance you're surviving 1v2 or 1v3 is actually pretty high, which is good actually for a TD...

P.s l named my fv4005 as the "BoilingKettle"

[fast compass]

Sheridan spaced armor isn't the only one that does this. A bunch of different sideskirts are almost always pink.

[west rapids]

Pink

[ancient iron]

can the turret of the T54E2 bounce shells?

[kindred wren]

Yes

[ancient iron]

is it reliable for it? 😛

[kindred wren]

Ahh, you got me

But yes, but beware of the cupola

[violet timber]

T54E2 has quite a strong turret, I think the cupola is the only thing that can be penetrated frontally unless you go up against an ISU or something

[plucky summit]

Or a PC turret

[ancient iron]

is the Lycan just.... only able to get into all t7 games/ t7-8 games?

[violet timber]

I mean, I’ve faced tier 6s in it, but it’s got a strong enough armor profile to face some tier 8s

[ancient iron]

I keep getting game losses because I can't touch T8s in it.... and the armor can only handle things frontally and only low pen guns.... and like.... idk... I am debating selling it at this point.... it was a good tank... before all the t8 heavies got armor buffs...

[violet timber]

It’s still a good tank, just make sure you bring APCR. You have an insane amount of ammo for a 122mm gun so you can afford to bring as much of each ammo as you want

[ancient iron]

I just... can't afford that much APCR.... and it doesn't do enough... I couldn't pen a T32 frontally even with APCR

[lyric copper]

then don’t fight them head on

basic rules of wotb, lower tier always plays support

[ancient iron]

Lycan is too slow to support... except as 2nd line support...

[violet timber]

It’s a hulldown monster, so play hull down. You’ll bounce a lot more than just trying to play as you normally would

[ancient iron]

WOWZA.... people must be having absolute monster games in the Rhm Skorpion G.... this was only a 3rd class mastery badge....

[scarlet wagon]

Hey Wargaming idk if you have a Legendary skin planned for the 60tp but i'm putting my idea for the 60tp Red Dragon idk if it is any good?

[hard cedar]

Why red dragon and what would it even look like

[scarlet wagon]

i think something like the kran

but do feel free to put your options

[ancient iron]

welp... lesson learned.... DON'T fire HE at the Waffles..... it will ALWAYS hit something like their gun or tracks and do no damage...

[scarlet wagon]

or it goes under the gun shield and you miss

[scarlet wagon]

and it's also dependent on WG

[hard cedar]

No point shooting he most of the time anyway cuz most will be using spall liner

[ancient iron]

WOW.... the T54E2 is pretty good armor-wise

[scarlet wagon]

nobody the one wargaming dev "Alexandra" playing blitz of 2 days

[terse pier]

Should i use defence system or improve modules for e50

I catch on fire alot so i was thinking defense

[onyx sluice]

It isn't if you load the gold. Or simply flank it.

Tiger is scary in the beginning but after sometime you get used to it.

[violet timber]

It’s not 50cm, at most it’s 22.8 on the AT15 iirc, and the armor just falls apart at higher tiers. They’re also abysmally slow, and quite easy to track making them not really much of a threat

[ancient iron]

what should I expect of the French heavies after the ARL? (is the T7 the same playstyle basically?)

[onyx sluice]

Weak armor but good guns.

[ancient iron]

UGH I just had my best game in the ARL.... and it was only a 1st class ;-;

[ancient iron]

so I assume enhanced armor is worthless on them right?

[sacred trail]

Pen on the pew pew sucks a lot especially against tier 8, but it can do a thousand in the clip if they all pen

[plucky summit]

Yeah just use improved assembly, especiall after AMX M4 mle 45

[wintry orchid]

No armour up to t9, 50b can bounce. 50 120 is useless if u got 50b imo

[solid gate]

T110E4 or Jg.Pz E100?

[hollow moth]

T110e4 is a worse E100, go for the Jagdpanzer E100

[quaint gust]

Amx 40 buff idea:

Buff it’s pen by 3-5 across it’s ammo types. So with calibrated shells it would have almost 100mm pen on ap. and probably 50mm pen with HE

Raise the ap damage to 200 average. And the HE damage to 280.

And add 0.5 seconds to make it an 11.5 second reload. Then with equipment applied it drops to about 10 seconds.

[hollow moth]

Nah, the tier is too low for a buff be important

[quaint gust]

It’s a premium tank tho. You have to pay to get it.

[hollow moth]

Not exactly, AMX 40 is a tier 4 collector pre 5.5. If you're old enough you didn't even need to pay a penny to play it.

[violet timber]

Ummmm AMX 40 is already pretty strong, I don't think it needs a buff lol

[solid gate]

Ok thanks

[solid gate]

lol

[quaint gust]

Oh

[quaint gust]

How tho?? It has an 11 second reload for 140 damage. My t1e6 shoots faster and does more damage

[violet timber]

AMX 40 has an insane armor profile lol

[midnight leaf]

i wonder if t6e1 will ever be available to everyone

[quaint gust]

I got it for free. Just for getting blitz i got that tank about 1k gold and a week of premium for free

[midnight leaf]

i made my acc before that event started :(

[plucky summit]

Woo

[fast compass]

Quack this

[copper swan]

You witnessed the power of me

[violet timber]

As I said, insane armor profile

[copper swan]

Hehe

[quaint gust]

This t69 could’ve very easily won the game but he ignored me and the team. We were telling him to shoot the 112 because it was near full hp, and in the open. Instead he shoots at tanks that have like 4 pixels of a track exposed for 2 minutes. Then when everyone is dead he decided to come off his camping spot and brawl with the 112 and the t-34-3 and he bounced every single shot.

[hard cedar]

since when are you supposed to prioritize high hp targets over low hp targets

[violet timber]

You're not

[hard cedar]

were telling him to shoot the 112 because it was near full hp
exactly so his teammate did nothing wrong except throwing at the end👍

[plucky summit]

Depends... Surely he wouldn't carry HEAT since they're not so experienced

[alpine notch]

Man, i hate someone who doesnt do T69 properly. Frustrating-

[hollow notch]

I like how the best preforming player is the one that gets attacked about doing things wrong

[plucky summit]

I can see how farming teammates may look bad

[hard cedar]

you don't even know they're farming though, mans is complaining about not shooting a full hp tank

[hollow notch]

Farm is all you can do when literally no other teammate can break 2k damage

If nobody does the damage you cannot win

[plucky summit]

You can't tell me a 3.5k T69 wasn't farming Mercies xD

[hard cedar]

ok true. but maybe he was still shooting low hp targets 👍

[hollow notch]

Definitely farming, but at least it did something

[plucky summit]

Yeah, I hate how the outlasting allies get dogged the most

[hard cedar]

clowns are just mad they died first so they harrass everyone who's not dead

[plucky summit]

Especially the yolo clowns

[hollow notch]

I'm insulted

[plucky summit]

When I mean yolo, I mean literally dying within 30 seconds yolo

[violet timber]

Isn't that how you're supposed to play? Die as fast as possible then blame your team for being nubs and idiots?

[hollow notch]

Guilty
Thought I was in madgames and went in a field in 263

[plucky summit]

As of random games meta, yes

[hollow notch]

Yolo faster, more battles, more wins ez

How to event 101

[hard cedar]

and if your team complains tell them they're dumb ggez

[plucky summit]

Insert Game Theory of battle royale's success*

[alpine notch]

Man, i hate this one. They're not taking the time playing some games.

[violet timber]

Gotta remember to call your team nubs and idiots so that they know they have to improve themselves

[plucky summit]

"Guys, I just got the game, what lines are the most fun?"
"Skill issue"
"Git gud"

[hollow notch]

Just noob? You can so much better

[violet timber]

I'd say the other things, but the mods would then bonk me

[hollow notch]

Stb is op grind that

perfect first tank to grind

[violet timber]

Make sure to stay on the STA-1 as long as possible when grinding the STB

[plucky summit]

Mods totally wouldn't bonk you, go ahead 🔫🌳

[alpine notch]

🤣 Agreed

[hollow notch]

Bonk harder moddy

[violet timber]

STA-1 best tier 8 med

[alpine notch]

300 HEAT pen with CS, a free real estate-

[plucky summit]

BLTZ9000 with 258mm base:

[violet timber]

Well look, it's at least better wr wise than the Indien, Pershing, Cent, and Panther 2!

[alpine notch]

It has HEAT? Wow, i missed that one completely.

[plucky summit]

Given they're all irrelevant =l

Disclaimer: I do appreciate the beauty of a humble support medium

[violet timber]

I'm actually surprised with how low the Panther 2 is

[alpine notch]

I missed those 4 tanks lately, i need to find out how to preserve them.

[violet timber]

I apreciate the beauty of the STA-1 :), especially the legendary camo

[hard cedar]

I appreciate the gun on the su 130pm trolling me every other shot

[alpine notch]

3 of them rn in my garage, grinding for Pershing atm.

[violet timber]

Just aim lol

[plucky summit]

Skill issue

I wonder what my first ever concept sheet looked like

[violet timber]

I'm actually curious to what that looks like now

[hard cedar]

oh i was tryna snapshot everything from 500m away no wonder it was trolling me so much

[hollow notch]

It's got mobility, run it with the meds

[violet timber]

It's a sniper lolololol

[hollow notch]

No. Bad. Get close and personal and alpha slap

Same with rhm, only slap harder

[violet timber]

B-b-but dead rail sniper corner

[plucky summit]

Awwh 🥺

[hollow notch]

You gotta counter the tanks that park on top of the ridge somehow

[violet timber]

If I'm actually trying, I'll usually go with the meds. But if I'm chilling out, I'll just default to sniping because it's easier

[plucky summit]

Do I continue with the Chipper or do I start on X1 Remastered?

[violet timber]

X1 remastered

[plucky summit]

Alright

[hollow notch]

So, bets on what the upcoming Halloween tank is

[plucky summit]

Oh the good old days when I often drew guns like a scratch mark, tracks were 2D, gun mantlets didn't exist and every part existed at non-cooperating angles 😭

[violet timber]

6 barreled tank, but you fire off 3 2-shell salvos

[hollow notch]

Zombie, Vampire , vampire hunter, apocalypse tick sitting on a wedge, werewolf, apocalypse balanced gatling gun.

[plucky summit]

Crab.

[hollow notch]

And I'm pretty sure last years servey results said todo a Halloween themed tank

[violet timber]

I like the idea of the Crab

[hollow notch]

I'm thinking we get a pumpkin

[violet timber]

I need a pumpkin tank now, 200mm all around

[hollow notch]

Or a skeleton
I guess ghost is another possibility

All new ghost tank, cannot be damaged and can pass through walls

[violet timber]

It can only ram though

[hollow notch]

Yessssss

[violet timber]

If you are inside of the Ghost, you take damage

[hollow notch]

Imagine a ramming gamemode front of tanks take no damage, but getting a ram in on the side or rear obliterates it

[violet timber]

Yesssss that would be amazing

[plucky summit]

My first tank drawing 😭😞🥺

[hollow notch]

Wth is that turret

[plucky summit]

Don't lecture me with your non-auto ricochet turret sides

[hollow notch]

And why is one tank 90° from the other one

[plucky summit]

One is peaking over the hill with a nice run-up speed, and the other is drilling the bottom

My question is why the shell didn't slam through the entire hull

[violet timber]

Because the upper plate was too thick

[plucky summit]

No crew could fit inside it was so flat :p

My step brother had kept bugging me with how flat many of my tanks looked, noting crew wouldn't be able to fit inside xD

Oh by the way those tanks up there are both X70s

Also did you think the top-down view of the hull armor on the X1 looks like an AP/APCR mix shell? xD

[hollow notch]

Just shoot the tank ez

[plucky summit]

Ah yes, shell armor

I have old tank comics if you're interested

Love how you ignored this

[undone gull]

There actual photos of some of these tanks and how people sat in them

[plucky summit]

I made both X1 and X70 up 🤔

[violet timber]

I'd like to see these photos

[dapper sinew]

Pudel's pretty good tank, I've only realized recently lol

[celest steppe]

which is better pz.4 G or StuG |||

[copper swan]

None. because you are the one playing it

[finite sorrel]

this camo is cool

[untold spire]

I dont get the upgrade logic with some tanks. As in here vk30, why is the vii gun the one i get at the start, but the vi is the one i need to upgrade to? Is the vi gun still better for skilled players, or at least a decent alternate choice? doesnt seems at all to me from the stats

[onyx sluice]

No, the 88 is simply better.

[vernal ember]

best camo for wz-121 ? any suggestions ?

[manic carbon]

Fanzone and spirit of the sky is what I use on it and I think it looks nice.

[vernal ember]

im going for fan zone ...thx anyways ❤️

[manic carbon]

No problem

[vernal ember]

any tips for this tank ? i just got it

[manic carbon]

You have six degrees of gun depression, so going hulldown is an easier task than with the WZ-120. Always look to go hulldown, you’re a smaller target and you’ll have a better time bouncing with the turret.
You have a higher alpha than mediums usually have, so use that to your advantage.
Also, I recommend running the provision and equipment to reduce the chance of an ammorack. It follows the chinese medium trend of an easy to hit ammorack

[vernal ember]

yeah thx ...and its true that its easy to ammorack chinesse meduim .... i just ammoracked 3 times in the last 5 games with the wz-120 :3

[manic carbon]

The worst culprit for me was the T-34-2. The WZ 120 and WZ-121 I didn’t have as much an issue with the ammorack. But I definitely do run maximum ammorack protection on all three as they share the same issue

[onyx sluice]

In #game-news it was mentioned there will be a event for clans. Has it happened before? Can anyone explain how that will work?

[kindred wren]

Clan events have not happened before but they will probably be like clan missions

[onyx sluice]

Ah, thanks.

[solid gate]

I’m guessing it’s just going to be a more extreme version of the weekly clan missions

[modest ocean]

I need a recommended equipment for the 183

[meager ravine]

which one should i go for?

[hollow moth]

T-62A is known to be a Obj 140 but better. It's meant for sniping and hulldown.

[meager ravine]

alr, ty

[onyx sluice]

This is what I would suggest.

[modest ocean]

Ok thank you i will try that

[real plover]

Use CS instead of gun rammer because the 183 already has a stupidly long reload so just increase your pen to make every shot count. Also switch to refined gun so you’re more accurate.

[hard cedar]

62a and 140 are quite different

[broken turtle]

it's simple: that tier 6 gun would lead to that tank. And that tier 7 tank is not on upper tier tank research path so it's optional.
Imagine that you are making tanks. Ur team got better technology and developed a new tank. And they make that new tank after they know how to "make" that tier 6 gun (and they might mount it on that too). But then you find out: that tier 7 gun is mountable, and works on ur older tank. It might not in the plan of that newer tank, so it's optional there

also don't trust module tier, trust the stats and your playstyle

[manic carbon]

Agreed, I use rammer a lot on my tanks, but CS is definitely more beneficial for the 183

[untold spire]

ok many thanks

[mighty tinsel]

Is the 252U noob friendly?

[balmy ridge]

rip

[visual jolt]

@solid gate that’s probably the last time I’ve talked to the dude I have no idea where he is lol

@mighty tinsel yes as long as the lower plate is angled or hidden

[mighty tinsel]

I see.

Are ya a new mod? Haven't really noticed you before.

[visual jolt]

@mighty tinsel no old mod I just went Afk for a year lol

[mighty tinsel]

Did you take a year break from Blitz too?

[visual jolt]

Yessir

[mighty tinsel]

I did too once. No idea but it must've been because of the bad teams.

[visual jolt]

But I’m back and ready for action

[real plover]

Just- ugh…

[violet timber]

So IS-7 has ended up being my favorite tier 10 heavy

[plucky summit]

Good

[violet timber]

It's just so nice to play, and more fun than the IS-4

[wise moth]

Ah yes, another convert to the IS-7 side

[plucky summit]

😁

[violet timber]

It used to be the Super Conq but the IS-7 just plays so good

[visual jolt]

@wise moth ah yes the #1 is7 simp himself

[plucky summit]

I love how people had an actual argument against IS-7 until #Don'tBuyIS-7 sprung up

Can't wait to see it in 8.3

[violet timber]

Hehehehe

[plucky summit]

I like the rework, it gets a more consistent and easier to hit cupola, but gets better turret rounding and much better sides

[violet timber]

I'm really excited for the sides

[mild narwhal]

Hmm you guys mentioning the is7 and it's good? Welp imma grind it

[plucky summit]

Player gonna shoot the new angle and be like "aye bruh I'm pretty sure I penned here all the time"

[mild narwhal]

But the is3 tho ohh god

[plucky summit]

IS-3 is the best hulldown tier 8 for armor =)

[violet timber]

Welp the T-22 is still the T-22

[mild narwhal]

Hmm I thought sides scraping was its job

[plucky summit]

It is, if you reverse sidescrape, but you'll be able to hulldown more than you can reverse SS

[violet timber]

Pike nosed tanks really can't side scrape effectively. Only side scrape if you need that bounce really quickly, then get out of the side scrape to return fire

[mild narwhal]

Ah I see

[wise moth]

IS-3 is all about the hulldown. By far the strongest turret in the tier, and it's not even close

[mild narwhal]

Then answer why I bounce so much when side scraping in the Is5

[plucky summit]

Though arguably Emil I can serve more that way

@mild narwhal bad enemies

[violet timber]

Because people can't aim lol

[mild narwhal]

Maybe it's the troll sides I've been angling a little to hard and people still can't pen

[violet timber]

Most IS series tanks have spaced armor on the hull above the tracks that makes the sides very thick and incredibly troll

[mild narwhal]

Some bozos still keep hitting my tracks when I was fully in cover bud you were just wasting your shells

[plucky summit]

Actually it's not thick sides, they're just at an autoricochet angle

[violet timber]

They could hit your tracks then initiate a COD, so beware of that

[mild narwhal]

Most unlikely since I'm an Asia server player I rarely see anyone using teamwork

[plucky summit]

Remember there's braindead players in all servers =)

[violet timber]

I'm talking about someone in a med deciding they want a COD darm and tracking you while you're hiding to initiate it

[mild narwhal]

The thicc sides are because of the space armor sucking up the shell

[mild narwhal]

Oh yeah those situations pretty annoying

[violet timber]

It's been a while since I've played the IS-5, or any tier 8 IS clone for any meaningful amount of time for that matter

[plucky summit]

It's. Not. Because. They're. Thick.

[mild narwhal]

Hmm

[plucky summit]

Did you know, if the caliber of the shell hitting the armor plate isn't over 3x as thick as the plate, then all AP and APCR shells will automatically ricochet off?

[violet timber]

My T-22 and it's thick sides

[mild narwhal]

Ye

[plucky summit]

This is an active taunt 😤

[violet timber]

Yes.

[plucky summit]

Boutta make it passive 🔫

[violet timber]

Not if my T-22's thick sides have anything to say about it

[plucky summit]

That's it
Loads 211mm cannon

[violet timber]

Jokes on you, I have 80mm sides.

[plucky summit]

Wow I did math wrong

Loads 241mm cannon

[violet timber]

Does spaced armor effect overmatching at all?

[plucky summit]

No, I don't think so
As long as the spaced armor itself fails to resist the shell

[mild narwhal]

Pah
Loads Schwerer Gustav railway cannon

[violet timber]

Seems like it should to me, but hey, I'm just a random tank enthusiast on the internet, what do I know

[mild narwhal]

Parry this you casual

[plucky summit]

Fellow tank enthusiast?
Have you drawn over 1600 tanks?

[violet timber]

That I have not done, but I probably have spent 1,600 hours looking at papers and blueprints of tanks

[plucky summit]

Lul, me consulting the database and armor profiles of tanks to discuss balance and point out fun facts

I can show da fun fax if u want

[violet timber]

I love da fun fax

[mild narwhal]

Give us da fun fax

[violet timber]

Tank papers, research papers on tanks, tank blueprints, I love them all

I really want the OBJ. 257 to be added just for the American-like suspension on a soviet tank funni factor

[plucky summit]

Here we go
Action X's turret underside is 401mm thick
M6A2E1 EXP has 198mm deck armor aside from the elevated part
The Pz. III A has 54mm turret roof armor, but is no thicker than 32mm anywhere else
M2 Medium's gun depression breaches the frontal hull, and is the most GD in the game, at 20 degrees

[violet timber]

Is that confirmed?

[plucky summit]

Oh, and the FT AC has only 45 engine power, least in the game

[violet timber]

A lot of these numbers just seem so weird

[plucky summit]

=)

[violet timber]

Like the deck armor… why?

[plucky summit]

Bad coding I guess, the frontal hull may consist of more than the front o-o

[violet timber]

That’s… interesting

[plucky summit]

Ok time to finish X76 Medium's concept sheet

[violet timber]

Oh boy

[plucky summit]

Democracy 100

[violet timber]

Sadge, I picked 1 for the nostalgia factor

[plucky summit]

For X1? xD

[violet timber]

Ye

[plucky summit]

I really didn't provide much at ALL, because I drew an entire tech tree, only identifying name, type, and tier :p
You'll see the cursed X76 in the same post

[slender cliff]

Rate of fire: 14 rounds a day lmao

[mild narwhal]

Lol

[hollow moth]

Between those 4 numbers, my favorite one is 16

[violet timber]

Oh boy

[plucky summit]

Right now all I gotta do is the hull armor, and the armor effectiveness

[rare ice]

Is it just me or is the Wz-131G-ft the definition of a glass cannon

[plucky summit]

No it's Grille 15

[hollow moth]

Well, M4 Ravioli, Grille 15 and SU-130PM are more accurate concepts of glass cannons

[violet timber]

Sheridan, the tank that literally damages itself when it fires

[plucky summit]

Not in game, not care

[visual jolt]

The whole Grille line are all the the literal definition of glass cannons

[violet timber]

Then, the spall liner came

[plucky summit]

Sturer Emil isn't too glassy, I'd call it plastic

[hollow moth]

It's more like a steel cannon if we see those tanks in literal ways

[plucky summit]

🔫

[violet timber]

I mean, if we're talking like that, then the T95E2 and T95E6 are the actual glass cannons considering they have glass in their hulls

[hollow moth]

But the cannons are made out of glass? Or at least have glass?

[plucky summit]

Every tank with protected observation devices:

[violet timber]

Haha no, glass is too brittle and heat sensitive in any form to make a barrel

[hollow moth]

Then it's not glass cannon

[plucky summit]

Why listen you little cutie

[slender cliff]

glass cannon

[hollow moth]

It's a glass cannon, but plot twist, it's actually a steel cannon

[quaint gust]

Just had my worst ever game in the is-6. Every single shot missed or hit something unpennable.
For example i had a fully aimed shot on a p43 and my shell went and hit the only red part.

[mighty tinsel]

Which tank has the most troll cupola besides the E3?

[quaint gust]

The p43 was taking up the entire aiming circle and there was only one tiny bit of red where the gun mantle was. My shell went straight into the mantlet

[plucky summit]

M4A3E2 does, mainly because it's so thick though

[solid gate]

I would say the fv215b heavy tank

[plucky summit]

Super Conqueror has a more troll cupola since it has a smaller flat part and a mostly auto-rico top

[solid gate]

Turret ring works fine

[broken turtle]

tiger 1, the lower plate hull is covered by some piece of pike make people unaware of that weakspot and the bounce-ish upper hull

[violet timber]

The lower plate of the hull is covered by spare track which i believe doesn't make any difference

[slender cliff]

The lower plate hides your transmission which will cause you a lot of pain and suffering

[quaint gust]

How do you play the bridge in falls creek because every time i try it I always die or get close to dying and never get a kill or deal damage

[kindred thorn]

sit behind bushes and hit the other guys or flank

[slender cliff]

To win bridges you have to gather your whole team and push

[quaint gust]

Our whole team was there

[kindred thorn]

really just flank in something mobile so if the enemy team goes after u flanking u can run away

[quaint gust]

I still almost died and only hit 1 out of my 7 shots because they either were absorbed by the houses or just wouldn’t pen

[kindred thorn]

otherwise maybe go into the pit but not like right next to the bridge, from the flank in something with gun depression

[copper swan]

What are great beginner lines to grind currently?

[thorny mulch]

E-100, IS-7, IS-4

[copper swan]

any more for heavies, mediums and tank destroyer

[thorny mulch]

I would say 268, ho ri, maybe jagdpanzer. T110e3 is a must have. T62a, obj 140, vickers

[quaint gust]

Ok that’s it im done

I just missed a shot at a completely exposed vk186.

[plucky summit]

If you're mad, just stop playing for a few hours
Your skill deteriorates when you're frustrated

[broken turtle]

In most of the time i see people just don't shoot it. They all go for front hull, which is harder, or side armor, even cupola

[quaint gust]

I even ricocheted off an su-152’s gun when the whole front could be penned

[brave night]

sounds like a bad case of rng

[quaint gust]

That’s the luck im having. And when i shot an at7 in my is6 i dealt an amazing 286 damage

[brave night]

u shot at a at7 with pramo

[plucky summit]

HEAT OP

[quaint gust]

Nope. Standard apcr shell. Hit for 286

[brave night]

it wouldve had to be pramo reg rounds cant roll below 300

[quaint gust]

It 100% said 286

[plucky summit]

Got replay?

[quaint gust]

I’ll check. I could’ve miss read it

[plucky summit]

It shouldn't be possible

[brave night]

^

[quaint gust]

Yeah i miss read it. It was 386.

[plucky summit]

Oof

I once rolled like 395 three times in 4 shots

[solid gate]

T32 and Vk 72.01

[quaint gust]

Here’s my rng

[brave night]

everyone has that happen

[radiant coral]

That’s why i sold it smh

[solid gate]

that wasnt even rng that was just a bad shot with unlucky timing

the mantle was the only exposed part at that point, and im not sure why you were poking an isu on 300hp 💀

[plucky summit]

Ok you shot straight at the gun mantlet lol

@solid gate he baited the shot before he fired

[quaint gust]

It’s be happening every single game for every single shot regardless of the tank. Just before that clip I completely missed a vk186

[solid gate]

he did, but the ISU was straight garbage and whiffed the shot

look at where his reticle is, that ISU had the entire front plate, plus the drive wheel and diagonal armor that connects the UFP to the side armor to shoot at

[plucky summit]

395 3/4 shots

[quaint gust]

Literally almost every shot I’ve taken has found a way to miss and not do damage

[plucky summit]

Sounds like skill issue 😎
Anyways RNG always has the final say

[quaint gust]

Im sick of the terrible rng. The more i play blitz the more i miss the op perks and equipment of console.

On console you can equip the kv-2 with enough accuracy perks and equipment to make shooting while moving viable. The guns reload so much faster too on console so all tanks, especially low tier tanks are much more fun.

[plucky summit]

Consider the different metas surrounding them ._.

[quaint gust]

How’d you mean? There’s a meta at t4?

[brave night]

@quaint gust you realize the games are balanced and scaled completely differently

[quaint gust]

Yes im aware they’re scaled and balanced different. It just bugs me that pc and console are very closely balanced together and then blitz is in the corner making everything feel like dog water. I still get annoyed that the kv-1s is so so slow to reload for example

[plucky summit]

Because it’s not 15v15 😂

[quaint gust]

This is probably the only tank i think might be better than the console/pc one

[plucky summit]

KV-1S doesn't have 61mm of pen in Blitz, that's why the reload is long

[rigid thunder]

? wotpc and wot console are 15v15 the last I remembered, and have larger maps. And arty. And wotb has 7v7. Such different games lmfao

[plucky summit]

Don't judge Blitz for its own purpose :p

[quaint gust]

I just don’t understand the change to gun handling is all im trying to say.

[rigid thunder]

oh and be grateful wotb still has the KV-1S, wotpc had it removed since like idk, 2013

[plucky summit]

KV-1S wasn't removed =l

[quaint gust]

No it’s still there. Never got removed. Console removed a fair few tanks when they revamped the tech trees and added modern armour

[plucky summit]

On Console it's a tier 5 xD

Anyways, because Blitz is fast paced and prammo isn't just OP, accuracy is necessary for high tier mediums to do their job

[rigid thunder]

oh not that KV-1S. The old KV-1S with the 122 D-2-5-T was removed completely

[quaint gust]

Is this the console kv-1s with its 122. It only has HE and ap

[plucky summit]

Of pfft, so just the gun was removed :p

[boreal spruce]

Obj.907
is it a Obj.140 mixed with the T22 but not as OP though ay?

[plucky summit]

Pretty sure it's HE and HEAT

[boreal spruce]

it seems to have the boat hull but not as troll as T22, and its gun is more akin to the Obj.140

[quaint gust]

Oh. Possibly, I’ll find out one sec

[plucky summit]

They're all basically the same gun :p
If anything it's closer to T-22's

[boreal spruce]

Why did WG give it worse DPM than the T22? dang...... cough OP T-22 cough

[plucky summit]

Note that 907 is considerably faster than both of them

[quaint gust]

It is HE and HEAT

[plucky summit]

Ah yes, good, I remember from playing KV-1S on Console :D

Lol "Nothing" is able to penetrate VK 100.01 P

[quaint gust]

I wish tanks gg was mobile compatible

That’s a huge difference in pens tho

[plucky summit]

Stock?

Well technically you can penetrate the cupola

It's all red with enhanced armor

Anyways you shouldn't be fighting a Mauschen frontally, especially without using APCR

Oof

[nocturne tiger]

Why does the Jagdtiger 8.8cm not get talked much in the community, the tank feels so good and fun to play and I earn so much more credits with this tank compared to my other premium tanks

[thorny smelt]

Same. The 10,5 cm gun is so OP you can just spam shells and keep on breaking enemy tracks.

[nocturne tiger]

Yeah I know right, and I keep getting beautiful high rolls with the tank so It feels like I'm shooting 400 dmg in 5 seconds

Also to be honest the armour is reliable in this tank, it can sidescrape pretty good and I don't really see the mobility as an issue

[thorny smelt]

I can go aggressive sometimes but being a tank destroyer means I'll stay second line or snipe depending on the map. Some are friendly to tank destroyers and some are not.

[nocturne sage]

Wonder when WG gonna change the Jagdtiger 8.8 name to Jadgtiger 10.5

[thorny smelt]

A camo perhaps like the 2015 one or Snow Tiger or something similar

[broken turtle]

then you still got f***ed up by bl-10 lul

[real plover]

Don’t think the moderators are too fond of you using spoilers

[clever nest]

We need strumtiger with its 380mm howitzer

[kindred wren]

Because it‘s slow and slow tanks can be as strong as you want and nobody will bat an eye

[copper swan]

your choice

[chrome fog]

Just got m60 from collect em alls
is it good?

[kindred wren]

It‘s a rather typical 105 medium, so I think you‘ll do just fine

Take both, but the T29 first

[chrome fog]

aight

also,M48 patton or M60?

[kindred wren]

They are both very similar

All 105 mediums are similar but those two are almost copies

(Though the stats of the M60 are slightly better)

[thorny smelt]

Panther II is so PAINFUL

[violet timber]

Honestly, I’d probably go for the Yoh at this point. And if you’re struggling in the T1, that’s a skill issue. The M6 is understandable as it’s not really to strong

[fluid carbon]

Yes... it's painfull. I am even surprised i even make it to e50

It's probably a better choice to get the yoh...the t29 is awesome but rhen you have t32 which is just horse ass

[thorny smelt]

I sold it and restored JPanther II instead. It is even more mobile than Panther II.

[fluid carbon]

Weird isn't? But from my experience playing the panther 2 is that you need to use that buffed front plate to ur use...if you angle it correctly and not expose ur side to much...you can bounce some shell (don't expect to bounce 15cm dho)...and also use the turret design as ur advantage aswell...since the manlet is pretty huge and the side is well angled if you face the enemy face on...try to wiggle and move during hulldown...the 8.8 is pathetic and you won't out trade anyone...instead play as a secondline support...and if your team is winning...resort to V I O L E N C E and ram them while using adrenaline...this is a technique that u will sure use in e50 and e50m

While doing the "aggression" towards the enemy... remember that u can only take care of only one tank...do not dare if there's another tank with the opponent since it will likely result in you dying and looking stupid in front of ur team

[thorny smelt]

I like the traverse speed. I have no problems with that. But the forward speed, it made me mad. I can't run as much as I wanted despite having the top engine.

[fluid carbon]

Yeah the top speed is stupid on that thing and the power to weight is pretty meh...but this is something you will get used to in e50

It's basically a practice tank for e50 without the armour...makes you a little bit more cautious

[thorny smelt]

I'm expecting like Panther I speeds but nope

[fluid carbon]

In terms of speed its basically evolving backwards

[thorny smelt]

If they retain the Maybach HL 234 from E 75 for E 100, this tank is basically a ramming machine. Panther II is devolving in terms of speed which I don't really like from it.

[fluid carbon]

Yeah...it need a speed buff on it...since every tier 8 can easily outperformed the panther 2 easily

The tank is supposed to be a decently armoured tank with low dmg gun and okay speed...but no...nothing about the tank speaks armour when you look at sniper mode

But remember...stock e50 makes panther 2 look like a op tank...i literally free exp the engine and gun

[onyx sluice]

Guys, any tips for the T28 prototype?
The grind for the top gun is pain IMO.

[thorny smelt]

I also wanted the speed buff for E 100 LOL or just replace the engine with Maybach HL 234 for a max speed of 40 kmph.

[fluid carbon]

Hulldown is the way to victory...your 105mm gun is decent...but remember to always have somekind of cover on your side...ur front armour is good against mt and lt..not so much against ht, td or tier 9 opponents...when your hulldown ing ur tank... remember that your tuuret have a weakness on the side manlet...so try to peak and shot fast or maybe wiggle if you can...also t28 is a little better if you go with mt (if your able to get there in time) since the armour will make the mt and lt busy finding and aiming at the weakspot :)

[nocturne tiger]

I bought the black prince and damn I'm loving it, the DPM is monstrous

Though is the British heavy tech tree even worth the grind

[fluid carbon]

I actually have a hard time playing black prince...maybe cuz im bad at taking advantage at the monstrous dpm it got...i always try to push myself to pump out the dpm but end up bleeding my hp pool...

[spare kestrel]

hello guys, can give tips for vk 45.02 A?

[copper swan]

Hulldown, snipe, heavy support, free xp it, or cry
Choose any option

[copper swan]

This also applies to your question as well@spare kestrel

[fluid carbon]

Never got my hands on it...but i have experience battling with it...hulldown... that's all i got to say...maybe don't expose ur side...either way try playing it as a mt...it makes ur mt happy when u do so and u will likely win the fight too

[thorny smelt]

More of a heavium. A Porsche version of Tiger II. Better protect your hull as it is weak.

[spare kestrel]

only support another HTs?

[thorny smelt]

Yup. As a support

[spare kestrel]

or play with MDs?

[fluid carbon]

Remeber you all that t28 prot and t28 is not a tank to be underestimated...both of those tank can pen 255 mm of armour and its the same gun as the t34...many of people i met when i use t28 prot just see me as a nuisance... that's a f a t a l mistake my boy

[fluid carbon]

If you go with the ht...become a support...if you play as a mt...become the breakthrough and frontline kind of tank

[onyx sluice]

I'm currently using the same tactics I used with the T25/2, going with the medium tanks and using gun depression.
Gosh I miss that mobility though.

[fluid carbon]

I skipped the t25/2 with free exp since that tank is pain for me :)

[onyx sluice]

IMO it was pretty fun, 4.8 reload with 90mm gun. Just have to be careful not to get shot.

[fluid carbon]

Welp im not really a dpm kind of player :v...im a high dmg alpha kind of player...so the t28 prot works for me...but not the t25/2

I feel like the t25/2 got no redeeming feature when i first played it...it feels like challenger but slower and uglier

[spare kestrel]

it's like turtle hellcat🤣

[violet timber]

Worst tier 8 heavy, just sell it. If you’re set in playing it, only go against meds

[pine jolt]

I just say the T40 in my garage but never got the battle pass to win it, so is wargaming being kind or is my memory bad

[mild narwhal]

WG kind I think now look at the upcoming 50tp event and this event 2 f2p events in a row!!!

[hard cedar]

it was from bonus code
yes, yes really

[pine jolt]

Really

[shadow burrow]

Ms-1 event was a joke

[mild narwhal]

Ehh

[onyx sluice]

I wouldn't say that, those certificates are quite useful and the Pudel is a decent tank.

[shadow burrow]

No for completing

[pine jolt]

Damm well thanks wotblitz

[onyx sluice]

5 victories per day for a tier 6 is fair.

[pine jolt]

Yes

[hard cedar]

ngl I wasn't the biggest fan of the event

[onyx sluice]

Looking a gift horse in the mouth isn't usually wise.

[real plover]

Looks like the AMX CDA is gonna be tested in 8.3. From what I heard on the xbox server, it’s one of the worst premium tanks in the game.

Looks really cool though.

[thorny smelt]

Looks like a less armored AMX AC 48

[real plover]

Hopefully they make the tank worth the money. Don’t wanna dump cash on it if it sucks.

[thorny smelt]

Same. I bought both WZ Blaze and Jagdtiger 8,8 cm and they're all worth the gold at least for me.

[real plover]

Haven’t played the Jag 8,8 however I do have the WZ blaze and it is really fun. It’s primary weakness is it has quite a low ammo capacity, so I need to make every shot count. Especially since it’s a 120 that does 400. Not to mention it’s got really good aim time.

[thorny smelt]

It SLAPS! It hits the sides of over-angled turret of Tiger II and VK 45.02 A like it is nothing. I love this speedy tank destroyer. As for Jagdtiger 8,8 cm, I immediately upgraded to 10,5 cm gun with better alpha, 3.6 K DPM, and higher pen. You can just spam shells to the enemy. Basically a tier 8 Jagdtiger.

[hard cedar]

any tank can pen the side of an over-angled turret 🥴
jg is kinda cracked though

[thorny smelt]

I think I also pen that when it is facing me and the sides are grey. I dunno if I see it correctly but whatever. But heck I love this speedy tank destroyer.

[hard cedar]

the turret design of the tiger 2 makes it so that if you turn it slightly you can pen it pretty easily

[thorny smelt]

I guess that's why.

[nocturne tiger]

Is the E-50 any good? I'm currently trying to get the top gun and boy that's alot of exp needed..

Also I spent my free exp on the engine

[solid gate]

no the e50 kinda sucks

E50M is good tho

[nocturne tiger]

welp I'll just use my entire days into maxing the E-50 so that I can get the E-50M

[undone gull]

Guys just bought SU 152 Tier 7 need help with which Gun and Supplies - 150 mm VI or VIII and Adrenilin + Power + Repair kit

[lyric oriole]

The 152mm

Double food and one big fuel

Adrenaline, multikit, repair kit

[static harness]

And after you played like 20 games with the 152 you are legally allowed to use the 122 because you are too tired of missing /s

[lyric oriole]

This is what I run

[undone gull]

Thanks

[solid gate]

I just got the WZ 111 from the collect em all container lol

[runic cloud]

does the Centurion tier ten have HESH?

[manic carbon]

If you mean the FV4202, yes

Centurion 7/1 also does as well

[runic cloud]

Does the cheiftan too then? Since the FV4202 is historcally the weapon tester for the Cheiftan

[violet timber]

Chieftain has a HESH but it’s not a special round, it’s just a high penetration HE

[runic cloud]

Ah thats weird

Thx for the info😎 👍

[violet timber]

Soup conq has the same thing, as well as the Vickers light and cr

There’s also the Standard B, LekPz M41 90, and RU 251 that have HEP, also known as High-Explosive Plastic, which is basically the same as HESH

[runic cloud]

Never knew the British lights had HESH too, I guess I never checked

[solid gate]

why strv74a2 is still in hybrid nation

[violet timber]

Because weegee is too lazy to change it when it doesn’t really matter that much

[solid gate]

Is T110E3 good and the way to it is difficult or easy?

[quaint gust]

I got nothing despite solo capturing the base because I didn’t see a single tank that game. Wasn’t shot at, wasn’t spotted, didnt shoot anything. So I captured the base alone and won the game. Shouldn’t i get something as a reward??

[runic cloud]

They need to flesh out their afk counter

[manic carbon]

Yeah but in the standard HE slot. The special thing about the mediums is they get HESH in the premium ammo slot with significantly higher penetration. 183 is like this as well.
Other British tanks will have HESH in the standard HE slot - which will still have a little more penetration than other tanks using normal HE. I believe the Chieftain Mk.6 has about 110mm of HE pen? (Off the top of my head)

[quaint gust]

Why can the skoda t50 shoot for 600 damage a shot?? I got shpt twice by it and lost about 1300 hp. I was in the is-8

[earnest egret]

How hard is it exactly to play the vk 45 tier 8? I'm thinking of getting it but I think it can be hard,

[real plover]

might be mad games

[violet timber]

The E3 is the best tier 10 td, and the way to it is not too bad

[quaint gust]

No i was in a regular game

[real plover]

weird.....

[hard cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-halpert-face-yeah-ok-then-sure-gif-17449746

[violet timber]

My only guess is HE but I’m 99.9% sure Skoda T50 HE can’t roll that high

[hard cedar]

It can't, max he roll is 525
And you can't he pen an is8 anyway

[violet timber]

True

Skoda T50 152mm gun confirmed?????

[hard cedar]

😳 😳

[kindred thorn]

u sure u didnt get shot by anyone else

[kindred thorn]

thats two shots
the alpha of a skoda is 310

[quaint gust]

Look at it when i bounce the 620 shot

[kindred thorn]

u didnt block any 620 shots
u got shot twice by the skoda
both of the 310 alpha shots bounced/non-penned

[quaint gust]

Oh so it has an auto loader

[kindred thorn]

you didnt know?
..
thats the main point of czech tanks
fast autoloaders

[violet timber]

The TVP 50/51 has a 4 shell auto loader that’s pretty nice, though I do kinda prefer the tier 9 due to faster clip reload and spaced armor on the sides

[midnight leaf]

you should've gotten the raider medal but maybe something happened idk

[lyric copper]

how could you not tell?

[rare ice]

The Wz-131G-FT is op

[plucky summit]

😳

[rare ice]

I did 300 dmg to an arl 44 and on a 7.3 second reload

[plucky summit]

Considering the average is 280, and the provided reload is 6.74s.... ?

😳 😳😳😳

[violet timber]

Stop that’s disgusting

[plucky summit]

Don't like Jg. Pz. E100 II?

[violet timber]

No it’s disgusting, leave my Jageroo alone

[plucky summit]

Ok fine give me like 5-20 minutes

[thorny mulch]

Give it st emil depression and kran turret. Oh wait did I just say turret 😳

[plucky summit]

Too bad, armoring JPanther II

[slender cliff]

I have blender so I don’t have to mess around with 1p res designs from armor inspector lmao

[plucky summit]

I'm using Apple's Pages, the Microsoft Word of Apple

He's new to the game don't make fun of him

[mellow marten]

Er wouldn't be cda not cad?

[pallid elbow]

I have a idea for a new tank

[mellow marten]

That is?

[pallid elbow]

It's called the MS 183

[mellow marten]

Well it looks like its a smaller calibre

[plucky summit]

I have 1600+ ideas for a new tank

[pallid elbow]

It could be Tier 2 with a 100mm gun

I have some other tanks too

[mellow marten]

108.3 mm

For the ms 183

[pallid elbow]

Great idea

And last but not least is this tank

[plucky summit]

183 but cooler

[pallid elbow]

It's just destroyed

[plucky summit]

Still cooler

:p

[mellow marten]

Im currently working on my model tanks all fictional tank destroyers/artillery, big sister ironically the smallest but mounts 2 75mm or so have yet to decide on how many, little brother mounts a 128, lastly mother mounts 210mm all on a modifié pz 38t chassis's

[plucky summit]

Oh no poort T18

[mellow marten]

Uhhh

[pallid elbow]

Look at the Maus

[plucky summit]

French VK 90.01 P

[pallid elbow]

So true

[mellow marten]

The t18 would have resized the gun to be smaller or something because something feels off about its size and the same for the 3rd from the bottom because it looks like a single crew turret of that

[plucky summit]

😳

[mellow marten]

Uh what

[plucky summit]

Two of your homies are in the graveyard Annihilator

[pallid elbow]

All the pictures that I send here are from a YouTube channel named notyuhz

[plucky summit]

Sheesh

😳

[mellow marten]

Want to see what a pz iv turret would look like if its edges were rounded

[plucky summit]

Cursed, but ok

[quaint gust]

Pretty coolio

[plucky summit]

Not exactly rounded enough to be cursed

[mellow marten]

Only did half becuase its going to be a fictional version becuase fictional wwii tanks are fun

[quaint gust]

Is it a panzer 3?

[plucky summit]

IV

[pallid elbow]

This is annihilator

[mellow marten]

Hm

[pallid elbow]

But wait there is more

[plucky summit]

How dare you square them

[pallid elbow]

I could make them in Minecraft

[mellow marten]

Lower the image resolution

[thorny smelt]

You mean pixelated?

[pallid elbow]

Look at the edges

[mellow marten]

Filter got it or a editing tool

[pallid elbow]

I just used a little trick

[mellow marten]

Like a pixel censor bar

[pallid elbow]

Exactly

[mellow marten]

Curious If their going to change the image of the amx 105 to have cda and not cad

[plucky summit]

CAnon D'assault

[pallid elbow]

Here are the three stages of the process

[mellow marten]

Proof of it being commonly called cda

[slender cliff]

Wargaming suffers

[mellow marten]

Nice process

[plucky summit]

Huh.

[slender cliff]

Stop with that -1080p resolution 😆

[pallid elbow]

Do you hear the plane too

[mellow marten]

I feel like these are new premiums

[violet timber]

Last one is just a JagdPanzer IV which is already in game

[slender cliff]

I can hear a tu-95 dropping the tsar bomba on your house.

[mellow marten]

No look at it

[pallid elbow]

The biggest fear of the Maus

[slender cliff]

The top picture looks like some type of sph

[mellow marten]

Amx-105 L23 howitzer

[pallid elbow]

Yeah the first looks like St. Emil

[slender cliff]

Lmao he said st emil

[mellow marten]

Saint Emil*

[slender cliff]

Steurer emil*

[pallid elbow]

I meant Sturer Emil

[mellow marten]

I know its that but the joke is its a Saint

[pallid elbow]

I'm pretty sure that I can speak really good German

[mellow marten]

The server is so quiet

[pallid elbow]

Ich know

[mellow marten]

Ahh most tanks came because of Germanys 1939 french holiday

[pallid elbow]

Ok

Do you guys understand german

[mellow marten]

Learning

But i probably should go get on my sociology, geometry 1, and financial algerbra or just pick on my little brother to help me with it

[pallid elbow]

I can speak German, English, a little bit Russian

[slender cliff]

That stuff is ez

[mellow marten]

Learning German,French Canadian, Italian

[pallid elbow]

Cool

[mellow marten]

Physical science or well any science class are 100% easy as

[pallid elbow]

I'm driving to Italy right now

[mellow marten]

Jealous

[slender cliff]

I never heard of financial algebra

[pallid elbow]

Me too

[kindred thorn]

what is financial algebra

[slender cliff]

The only thing I can think of is statistics

[kindred thorn]

yeah but wouldnt that just be named stat or smth??
weird

[slender cliff]

Idk, I’m only taking calculus right now

[kindred thorn]

same

[violet timber]

Calc is fun

[slender cliff]

No it’s not

[pallid elbow]

Wait they teach useful stuff at your school

[kindred thorn]

its alright
my teacher looks like its gonna be a u get 85 in class but u get 5 on AP exam
cuz my period last year 27/28 kids got a 5
and the other kid almost got a 5

[slender cliff]

No I have to get an A in calc lol. So I get that extra point for my gpa. It’s an ap course so the higher the grade the better

[pallid elbow]

OK what is 10x0

[slender cliff]

That sounds exactly like economics

[mellow marten]

Shuuush its easy économiques

[slender cliff]

lol

[pallid elbow]

Math be like: Mohammed lives in Germany is he a politician or a terrorist

[mellow marten]

Uh thats is englisch 4 with sociology

[pallid elbow]

No it's like the texttask

[plucky summit]

I'm liking my Calculus A class

Unfortunately I've already taken Calculus in high school, so I can do derivatives and integrals but my teacher won't let us do that yet

[kindred thorn]

true

my teacher kinda tough though

[slender cliff]

Ye

[kindred thorn]

plus kinda have to get used to the class/grading standards/new material etc

[hearty wren]

i found a thing

[plucky summit]

Cool M8A1

[hearty wren]

yes but it has turret armor plating

[slender cliff]

Yeah 3 weeks in I already had 2 tests 😢

[plucky summit]

Hence I said cool M8A1

[kindred thorn]

lol same
1 quiz/1 test though

meh start but im sure ill be able to improve

[slender cliff]

Oof. My teacher is literally speedrunning the curriculum

[kindred thorn]

lol

[north galleon]

foch 155 or ho ri

[kindred thorn]

ho ri
foch is ehh nowdays

[onyx sluice]

They need to give the single shot gun it's 640 alpha back.

[vague sail]

Hoo rii ho rii horii

[copper swan]

Ho Ribble

[nocturne tiger]

god Im already not liking the e50

[coral mango]

50 sucks
50m is decent

[nocturne tiger]

God I'm so glad I bought the black prince, it feels so good to pew pew your enemies to death once they realised their fatal mistake

[torpid lagoon]

Should we get the Chinese Lights at some point I wanna see something that can counter the Sheridan Line

[onyx sluice]

I'm hoping we get the double barreled Soviet heavies.

[real plover]

Then that would make the Yoh useless because the double barrel can fire both shots at once, you wouldn’t have to wait for an intra-clip and it has an autoreloader . On pc it has obscene levels of armor so I wouldn’t recommend adding that to blitz.

[thorny smelt]

Basically it breaks the game

[torpid lagoon]

Basically reload and DPM are similar to the vickers

[onyx sluice]

Actually no, they do have an intraclip. Even when both shots are loaded you have to wait a few seconds "for the gunner to get ready" before you can fire.

[thorny smelt]

So it functions more of an auto-reloader?

[onyx sluice]

Yes.

[real plover]

In a nutshell it’s an autoreloader with two shots in the clip with the ability to fire both

[thorny smelt]

It might even kill the Progetto or Emil I.

[torpid lagoon]

DPM is maybe leopard scale

[onyx sluice]

It really won't, it's a fun gimmick but it in practical terms they're a "worse" auto-reloader.

[thorny smelt]

I'm aiming for ST-II line in WOT PC though

[onyx sluice]

If you like alpha you'll enjoy them, probably. I don't play PC so I'm going off of second hand information though.

[thorny smelt]

No worries. I'm also going for IS-4

[onyx sluice]

Best of luck man.

[thorny smelt]

Lots of USSR tanks in WOT PC. There are 5 tier 10 tanks to choose from.

[onyx sluice]

I would love the super heavy line in Blitz, the one with the 15cm gun.

[thorny smelt]

E 100? VK 72.01 K?

[onyx sluice]

The Soviet super heavy one.

[thorny smelt]

KV-2?

Only KV-2 has the 152 mm gun in whole of USSR tech tree. The rest are 122 mm

[onyx sluice]

The 705 man, I'm talking about PC.
I was saying I would love to have the 705 line in Blitz.

[thorny smelt]

Object 705 only has 130 mm top gun

Do you mean Object 705A?

Object 705A competes with E 100 in terms of guns

[onyx sluice]

Yeah, I meant the tier 10.

[thorny smelt]

WG might sell Obj 705A in crates. RIP. Another competitor to E 100

[real plover]

Object 705A might break the game lol

[onyx sluice]

I want the line though :(
It's tech tree, they've already ruined the actually fun French heavy line.

[thorny smelt]

I'm referring to when they sell Obj 705 in crates in Blitz.

[onyx sluice]

Yes and I'm saying they should introduce the line, not make it a premium (collectable really) like they did with the French heavy line.

[thorny smelt]

There is the 60TP coming soon to compete with E 100.

[past crane]

705A if it comes should have 560 alpha.

[pastel moon]

is tiger 1 worth getting/using?

[violet timber]

Yes.

[thorny smelt]

It is up to the Blitz developers to decide whether they'll retain or nerf the Obj 705A's 152 mm gun when it hits in store.

[past crane]

It's called speculation and guessing (for balance). In PC most 152 mm guns do 750, the equivalent to 640 in Blitz, and the "lower damage" 152 mm guns do 650 (560 in Blitz). 705A has 650, so I'm assuming it will have 560.

Nevertheless, WG hasn't said anything about the 705A and do we really need more heavies?

[silver mortar]

130mm shouldn't exceed 500 damage, m4 54 already have 480 and german 128mm have 40, 2mm add a 100 damage ? 560 is too much

[hard cedar]

Blitz devs might not even add the 705

[past crane]

I'm talking about the Object 705A, not the Object 705 which has a 130 mm gun or a 122. The 705A has a 152.

The 705 is a Tier IX and the 705A is a Tier X in the rear turreted soviet heavy tree in PC.

[onyx sluice]

They could add the rear turreted Soviet medium tanks too.

[silver mortar]

👍

[hard cedar]

K91 already in blitz

[thorny smelt]

It starts at tier 7 with A44 in WOT PC

[thorny smelt]

K-91 in WOT PC is rear-turreted. In Blitz, it is middle turreted.

[violet timber]

CS-63 when?

[onyx sluice]

They look so fun.

[fluid carbon]

But the meta is changing towards the mt meta...so adding a heavy tank line is abit weird don't ya think?

[violet timber]

The meta is still incredibly heavy biased right now

[fluid carbon]

It will change later probably

[onyx sluice]

The meta is still mostly heavy tanks, followed closely by tank destroyers.

[fluid carbon]

I can tell that...but judging how wargaming buff and nerfing tanks...it will probably change...but that's just my speculation so...

[real plover]

Action X is so op in mad games

[kindred wren]

A lot of things are pointlessly op in mad games

[thorny smelt]

A rear-turreted ones like the K-91 line would be nice but they need to replace the K-91 with another tier 10 rear-turreted medium tank.

[kindred wren]

Why? Call it K-91-II and yolo

[onyx sluice]

The game design itself (like the size and terrain of maps and the limited team size) will guarantee heavies will always be meta.

[violet timber]

Not to mention the heavy hp buff

[onyx sluice]

Heavies and mediums having the same HP dosent make any sense.
The change was justfied.

[violet timber]

It just made the heavies so much more dominant

[kindred wren]

The difference between mediums and heavies is mostly just a matter of designation

[thorny smelt]

There's no need to add another heavy tank line. A medium and light tank line can balance the current meta.

[kindred wren]

Balancing the meta with a single line is unwise. The meta encompasses the entire game

[onyx sluice]

In my opinion to make the mediums relevant what is more important is that the "penetration creep" be stopped. Reduce penetration and at the same time nerf armor of heavies somewhat.

[kindred wren]

How do you help mediums by reducing penetration? That hurts mediums more than it helps them

[onyx sluice]

Penetration of heavies. This is only for heavy tanks.

[copper swan]

looking for advice for beginner friendly lines to grind

[violet timber]

IS-7

[kindred wren]

To be honest I believe this will rather make mediums and heavies more similar than create two distinct but balanced classes

[copper swan]

that is the only beginner friendly line? Looks like the rest isn't worth grinding then

[violet timber]

No, it’s just the one most worth grinding right now. If you want others I’d say E3 and E100 are pretty good

[copper swan]

isn't 60TP going to replace E100?

[onyx sluice]

My thinking is that by reducing the penetration it will make medium armor actually mean something.

[kindred wren]

E 100, Jg Pz E 100, E 50 M, Obj 268 and T110E5 also reasonably beginner friendly

[copper swan]

Thanks. any more lines are worth grinding?

[kindred wren]

Medium armour is either impenetrable or penetrable by low pen guns anyways. I think nerfing the pen of heavies will only make heavy fights a lot more draggy than they already are

[onyx sluice]

The armor nerf is supposed to balance that out. The heavy fights dragging on I mean.

[violet timber]

Nerf heavy view range so they can’t spot for themselves

[kindred wren]

I believe the Progetto 65 and Sheridan lines are worth your while, but those lines are somewhat specialised and might bot suit your playstyle

[onyx sluice]

This won't affect any front line heavy tank at all.

[copper swan]

I just researched the Kranvagn and IS 4 but did not have enough silver to buy them
felt like Progetto 65 was the wrong line for me

[kindred wren]

That will mean the mediums will again easily be able to penetrate heavies and we are back to pre 3.6 with an overly dominant medium meta

[violet timber]

They can’t kill what they can’t see.

[onyx sluice]

So nerf them to something like 50 meters? Lol.

[copper swan]

ya progetto 65 line felt awful for me, those mediums have no armour and it is hard to pump out the damage though autoreloaders feel flexible
didn't like Emil 2 and tier 8-10 in Progetto 65 line and hated the Progetto 46

[kindred wren]

Those are two solid choices. Generally you will find the most beginner-friendly tanks in the two big beginner nations; USSR and Germany

[violet timber]

No, just nerf them enough to make bushes viable

[thorny smelt]

Honestly, I'm fine with the current version or before 8.1 or whatever version I was before.

[copper swan]

I got the Ho Ri type 2, but not sure is the Ho Ri line worth grinding

[thorny smelt]

It is worth it.

[kindred wren]

If that is the case then I wouldn‘t recommend you tanks like the Leopard 1 and FV4202 as they are also rather poorly armoured

[hard cedar]

I am currently grinding is7 and I'm sure I'll regret it later

[onyx sluice]

Side armor and angling need to be made viable again, not only just hulldown and side scraping.

[copper swan]

Thinking which line should I go for, British lights or British mediums, Chinese mediums or Chinese heavies. Generally I like tanks with some armour, some mobility and some penetration

[kindred wren]

Side armour was never viable

[onyx sluice]

The IS7 is quite good.

[hard cedar]

Chinese heavies then

[thorny smelt]

USSR and German lines are some of the go-to ones

[violet timber]

You use your side armor in side scraping. It is viable lol

[copper swan]

what is good or bad in that line?

[hard cedar]

Only bad thing about t10 is traverse speed and gun depression

[onyx sluice]

This was why I wanted to tone down the penetration. The frontal armor of heavies is overbuffed while the sides get weaker.

[kindred wren]

WZ-113 and IS-7 come to my mind

[hard cedar]

((is7 has awful pen))

[violet timber]

IS-7 supremacy

[kindred wren]

It‘s good enough 😛

[violet timber]

Slap cs on it and it’s not that bad

[hard cedar]

it's worse than every other heavy 😛

[kindred wren]

It‘s better than the WZ-113 👀

[hard cedar]

335 heat is worse than 303 apcr?

[violet timber]

Normalization go brrrrrrr

[kindred wren]

255 APCR is worse than 303 APCR 😛

[hard cedar]

🥴

[kindred wren]

(Also worse than 260 AP but I couldn‘t help it)

[onyx sluice]

What is that anyways?

[violet timber]

Normalization is the tendency of armor piercing shells to “turn” on impact, reducing the effective angle of the armor

[hard cedar]

Apcr has 2 degrees AP has 5

[onyx sluice]

So it's RNG? anywhere I can read more about it?

[kindred wren]

It‘s not RNG, it‘s a set amount

[violet timber]

Let’s say you fire at a 60mm plate at 60 degrees. AP will “see” that plate as 55 degrees, and APCR will “see” it as 58 degrees

[kindred wren]

This is especially relevant at high angles, as the effective armour increases exponentially with the angle

[onyx sluice]

Oh, thanks. And I'm guessing for HEAT it's 0? And what about HESH?

[violet timber]

High Explosive projectiles detonate on impact, which doesn’t allow for normalization

[slender cliff]

Hesh has a squash head so it doesn’t care about sloped armor

[onyx sluice]

TY.

[kindred wren]

Not in this game

[violet timber]

In blitz HESH and HEP are just high penetration HE rounds

[slender cliff]

Rip

Wargaming at its finest

[violet timber]

It is what it is

[onyx sluice]

On a side note, I wish WG will add something like bonds in Blitz just like in PC. To give some incentive to grind once you've got a tier 10 tank.

[violet timber]

The main incentive is no p2w

[hard cedar]

There's gold 😁

[onyx sluice]

I mostly play German heavies and the VK90 is better than any of the 3 tech tree tanks.

[violet timber]

I personally like the E100 better due to alpha

[onyx sluice]

Same but objectively it's still better.

[slender cliff]

They should of buffed the badger more

[violet timber]

Badger needs to be nerfed back to its original mobility but get a dpm buff

[onyx sluice]

It's perfectly fine.

[violet timber]

It’s just a worse E3 right now. E3 mobility needs nerfed and Badger needs a mobility nerf with a dpm buff

[slender cliff]

Idk it’s as slow as ever. But I think they need to buff it’s disp while moving

[violet timber]

Nerf it back to 30kph and give it a reload buff, make it something special

[onyx sluice]

They should make it tech tree honestly and make the 183 the collector.

[slender cliff]

That’s what they did in pc