vehicles-discussion

[slender cliff]

Yeah it’s mainly because of that freak incident

[hollow notch]

Don't mind it being an is4 with 600 alpha

Because weegee wanted to get away from the heavy meta didn't they

[slender cliff]

😔

Is-4 nerfed

[hard cedar]

i think you mistyped 🥳

[slender cliff]

Bruh No way?

[hard cedar]

yes is-4 nerfed is very good 👍

[slender cliff]

Bruh

[hard cedar]

bruh

[slender cliff]

😔

[thorny smelt]

I'm aiming for that IS-4 line though 😦

[slender cliff]

Oof

[thorny smelt]

Armor > mobility

[plucky summit]

I'm sure you love the AT 2 then

[elder saddle]

Can I get some advice on how to play the E50? I have the thing maxed out but it just doesn't seem to be working that well compared to the Leopard PTA. The armour doesn't exactly work unless you’re facehugging or against lower tier tanks, and higher tier ones just seem to go through regardless.

[dull urchin]

If you have armor on a medium don't depend on it, just in general
It's something to save you from your own mistakes or just to troll the enemy
It is reliable against lower tier opponents and you should use it to that end to bully them, but don't go "why are they penetrating me" with higher tier ones.
You have a decent enough gun to deal with such enemies and the armor to troll them time to time, that's all

[elder saddle]

ty

[thorny smelt]

Mediums are meant to be as support tanks and blocking enemy medium and light tanks. Going frontline is a grave mistake.

[dull raptor]

Amx elc biscuit is fast boi

[graceful wedge]

when he gets the e50m he can use his armor because its strong unlike e50

[halcyon hinge]

Premium/Collector tank idea:
CM-11 Brave Tiger (based off M48 Patton)

Part of U.S. or Hybrid Nation tree.

Can be introduced as camouflage instead.

(This photo is not mine, I took it from the internet)

[hollow hinge]

which line should i get in the european section? i want something that has a chance and doesnt just loose every 1v1 situation

[violet timber]

Well they’re all pretty bad in a 1v1 and 1v1s are also useless for how good a tank is, but the one with the best chance is probably the Prog since it has mobility and a decent reload

But overall, don’t judge tanks based off of their 1v1 potential

[hollow hinge]

true but overall, which line is considered just a bit better? and fun

[violet timber]

The best line overall is the Kran for the European Nation

[hollow hinge]

got it thanks.

[hybrid bloom]

What t28???

Btw i ment that we CAN use all the turrents

And t28, t35, and other multi turrent tanks can enter an game mode called "Multi shots" or something like that

And they only face tanks like themselves. Btw the t35 will be a teir 3-5

That would be great👌

[pure arrow]

No one asked but this is how big the ML-20s Heavy artillery gun is inside the casemate SPG SU-152

[copper swan]

The light tank at the receiving end of it:

@pure arrow

[dull raptor]

@copper swan how it feels to be the one who did it:🤣

[drifting grove]

Help, I need to learn how to use the Caernarvon.

I'm unable to do anything with it and I need to do someting to upgrade my modules.

[plucky summit]

@drifting grove hulldown as much as possible, you'll have a better time fighting mediums since they can't out-trade you as much

[drifting grove]

Trouble is, I don't exactly know HOW to hulldown. I know what it is. No clue how. I'm still new here. Under 300 battles.

[plucky summit]

Ah, okay, well hulldown is the action taken to reduce damage taken while having the option to fight back, unlike most sidescrapes

You use terrain to hide the hull of your tank, exposing only your turret, to not only make it harder to hit, but harder to penetrate your armor

For Caernarvon, you can't rely on the armor, especially on the hull, so you might as wel force the enemy to gamble their RNG (random number generator, used for determining where your shot goes) on your turret

[drifting grove]

I know. I'm having trouble hiding my hull behind terrain. That's my problem.

[plucky summit]

Well you do need to know where of course, but I'll consider general examples:
Flattened hilltops with enemies at the lower part, this applies to Mines, but only if you're isolated from enemy tank destroyers, since they have higher ground than the enemies you can engage hulldown

Dunes provide the terrain where you can hulldown, but it's sketchy since they tend to be steep or exposed

[drifting grove]

So, I should be elevated over my enemies? But what if they flank me?

[plucky summit]

Everyone faces the problem of being flanked, but because of this phenomenon of having teammates nearby, it's not so common

[lyric copper]

to really cover your bases, keep an eye on the minimap which can help you figure out if you are about to be overrun or not

@drifting grove use lookout mode, or wait until shells fly at you

[drifting grove]

Right. So, take reasonably flat elevated positions and shoot down at enemies. But how do I tell if my hull is covered or not?

[plucky summit]

A rule of thumb when hulldown is to make sure your aiming circle is as close to the ground as possible, without losing aim on the enemy or having it hit the ground

[hard cedar]

Use lookout mode (right click on pc and toggle it on settings on mobile)

[drifting grove]

What if I'm getting pushed on. How do I hold my own in a 1v1 where the opponent is pushing on me?

[plucky summit]

Your tank is built to deal with others 1v1 style, as long as you force them to stay exposed as they reload

Unfortunately that isn't always the case when someone 1v1s you, you're not built as a dedicated 1v1 tank, since the enemy often can use their armor or hard cover as a means to safely reload

In a push, hope a teammate or two put in their shots on the enemy pushing you, this is a good strategy for punishing unnecessary aggression, and can quickly drain an enemy off their team

But to have that happen, you must position in front of teammates (though you're a support heavy)

Be in your teammate's firing sights, so if someone pushes, you teammates have shots

[drifting grove]

Right, thanks. Part of me is honestly considering going to British TDs instead and skipping on heavies

[lyric copper]

try to keep them in your gunsights if possible

the Cean excels at constant firing where it can easily utilise its high RoF to melt targets

@drifting grove go up the UK heavies first

[hard cedar]

Well if you're a beginner i wouldn't recommend the 4005 it's uh hard to play

[drifting grove]

Right. Thanks.

[plucky summit]

Heavies were are by far the easiest class to play, use their high survivability to learn maps and enemies

[hard cedar]

Although I don't know if British heavies are a good first choice either

[plucky summit]

Here's a simply ideal position for Caernarvon

Sadly this doesn't exist on maps that isn't Yamato Harbor but you can make somewhat that way by using terrain

[hard cedar]

Even then half the turret is gray

[drifting grove]

Thanks a lot, everyone!

[plucky summit]

This is why you should avoid other heavies :p

Bully mediums with your chunky HP and your more comparable damage per shot

[lyric copper]

^ Cean> Cent on MT flank

[plucky summit]

If you run Enhanced armor (you probably shouldn't), you can bully low-penetration lights and mediums, like RU251 and T-54 L

[drifting grove]

I DO intend to run enhanced armour. Thanks.

[plucky summit]

Enhanced Armor won't do too much for you, especially if you don't hulldown as much as you can

[hard cedar]

Uh it won't make a difference most of the time I wouldn't recommend it

Enhanced armor is basically only worth on tanks where running it creates auto bounce angles or prevents overmatching

[lyric copper]

also: be very scared of T34s

they do not have to try to even pen your turret

[drifting grove]

There is a way I can skip it: I play a different line and save up 16,450 Free XP a week (11,200/ week from Clan missions + 750/day from 'Watch 3 Ads daily mission') for nine weeks and research the Conqueror.

I know it sounds ridiculous, but I'm actually considering it.

[west rapids]

Honestly it’s either 4202 or vickers for new people, but they see 183 and go 🥺 😗 😳 😏

[hard cedar]

I don't think either of those lines are good for new players

[west rapids]

For Uk tree maybe

[plucky summit]

To be fair though 183 is popular and fun for many

[west rapids]

For 4202 however you have to learn how to master the hesh gun ASAP to get the full power of the tank so it really wouldn’t be noob friendly, so then there’s vickers and that speaks for itself

[drifting grove]

Should I try this?

[west rapids]

You can do mad games and grind to conq

[drifting grove]

What are mad games?

[lyric copper]

As they are, games that are mad (as in crazy)

[drifting grove]

How do I participate?

[lyric copper]

wait until they are unlocked once again

Uprising and Gravity are also similar, they don’t contribute to battle count, or winrate, so they’re the perfect grinding space, uprising is typically considered the best one as you have 3 lives

[valid gale]

Their game modes they don’t have actual schedules but rotate frequently speculation is the next one is max games

[drifting grove]

Right. So, I've played several battles on the Caervarnon and lost almost all of them. The ones I did win, it was my teammates, not me. I'm averaging 320 damage with this while I averaged 1500 with the Black Prince.

I took advice on how to improve my performance and tried as hard as I could to implement it, but my performance didn't improve.

It is quite clear that I'm awful with this tank and it's probably due to my lack of experience.

I feel that I should leave British heavies alone for a bit, until I get some more experience. So, which other line of the British Tech Tree should I focus on (and maybe, someday, come back to this)? I'm leaning towards our Tank Destroyers.

Heavies are supposed to be the easiest to play, but this tank combines the poor mobility of Heavy Tanks with poor armour. Not remotely easy. I'm up for a challenge, but this is too much.

[lyric copper]

do not

one line is capped at 20kph

one line has no armour

The UK heavy grind is one of the worst, and is not recommended to any new players

[hard cedar]

If you want an easier line to play, none of the british tanks are good

Also do you have any replays we can look at to try and help you improve

[drifting grove]

Mediums?

[lyric copper]

stock centurions will send a man into insanity

[keen garnet]

meds are very good now NGL but the stock Cents as the person above me said are a royal pain

get the pun haha?

I'll show myself the door

[hard cedar]

4202 is good, but not easy to play

[drifting grove]

Vickers.

[lyric copper]

LTs aren’t the best for new players, but the VL line is considered the easiest by far

[plucky summit]

Stock Centurion bad?
Consider this first battle of my cousin, who has about 2.5k battle's experience

Just kidding, this is mostly luck, I just think this is hilarious for a first battle

[drifting grove]

I don't need easy. I need decent. Caernarvon is one of the worst tanks in the game.

I can learn. I learnt to sidescrape for the Churchills and the Black Prince.

[keen garnet]

Then FV 4202 is the best choice, I absolutely love that tank

[lyric copper]

don’t worry, the Caern is really the only fully painful tank of the line, the Conq gets a godly gun at least

[plucky summit]

Go for E100's line.

[hard cedar]

vickers >>> 4202 😁

[drifting grove]

I prefer British.

[keen garnet]

BESH would disagree

[plucky summit]

Complain all you want about your preference then.

[hard cedar]

viewrange and pbr would agree

[lyric copper]

‘ery noice patriotism

not needed.

would rather play a good tank rather than a tank because “I like the country it’s from”

bonus if it’s good and from the country I like

[drifting grove]

What about its mobility and armour? Armour is just as bad as the Caer.

[hard cedar]

Mobility is decent, but the armor is pretty bad

[plucky summit]

HP pool, great gun

It's called balancing tanks

[drifting grove]

Fv215? Decent side armour for sidescraping and a powerful gun. Low HP pool is okay as long as I can block.

[plucky summit]

You'll struggle with lower DPM now

[lyric copper]

if the L1A1 120mm were to have a rifle counterpart, it would definitely be the SMLE Mk.III

[hard cedar]

It can't sidescrape that well

[keen garnet]

:v

Honestly the 215b could be balanced by removing the super consumables, buffing it's upper plate and side armor hard, and reducing the reload to it's original state

[drifting grove]

I would prefer British, but I'm considering the E100. I'm currently torn between British mediums and the E100 line.

[plucky summit]

The mediums need some experience to play well

[hard cedar]

line with pbr > line without pbr
it's a fact !!!

[drifting grove]

What's PBR?

[keen garnet]

:v

[lyric copper]

HESH is a hard shell to tame, especially without the presence of HEAT or APCR

you will struggle against the front of most HTs

but running the 4202 or 7/1 with HEAT is akin to heresy

[hard cedar]

enhanced graphics basically, mud/snow/dirt will accumulate on your tank and enhanced shadows

[keen garnet]

That's why you use ur 60kmph 😏 to flank

[haughty forge]

abandon the grind, 215b one of the worst tanks now

[keen garnet]

yes chef!

[plucky summit]

It's like a gimmicky Chieftain Mk. 6

[drifting grove]

So, what will it be? E100 or the Her Majesty's Mediums? I call a vote!

[haughty forge]

her majesty swedish kran

[hard cedar]

kran wheeze

[keen garnet]

Her Majesty's Mediums

I honestly think E100 is pretty mehhh in this meta

[lyric copper]

If you are truly fine with the stock grinds of the Centurions, fear naught and charge in

[plucky summit]

Meh but a nice standard to learn the game from

[keen garnet]

@haughty forge You got 4202?

@plucky summit yeah thats tru

[drifting grove]

What's wrong with the stock Centurion?

[plucky summit]

If you can do basic actions like shooting enemies and taking cover as you reload, then E100's large alpha and HP pool will serve well

[haughty forge]

nah man, i am grinding wayyyy too many lines simultaneously and sincce 4202 is one of the worst lines in the game... Never put it in my bucket list

[lyric copper]

horrible pen, mobility and armour

17 pounds of solid steel isn’t enough at tier 8

nor is 20 pounds at tier 9

[keen garnet]

TBH it's 7/1 and 4202 are lovely tanks, especially now with the buffs

[drifting grove]

It's only the stock, right?

[haughty forge]

t9 on sheri, t9 on grille, t9 on kran, t8 on batchad, t8 halfway done on 268, t8 newly on vickers L, t8 halfway done for leo 1...... @keen garnet there is too much to grind, also i do not want to grind centurion 1, too stressful

[drifting grove]

Okay! E100 line it is! Auf Wiedersehen Großbritnnien! Hallo Deutschland!

[keen garnet]

RIP lmao

[keen garnet]

nuuu, well best of luck on ur grind!

[haughty forge]

am just jumping the lines and keeping the game fun and non stressful, recently finished 121 grind and im broke on credits cuz equipment etc...

[drifting grove]

Why?!?!

[keen garnet]

I wished you luck lol

[drifting grove]

The 'nuuu'?

[hard cedar]

cuz he wanted you to get 4202

[keen garnet]

^

I'm gonna abuse it as much as I can before it gets nerfed

However @drifting grove at the end of the day it's ur decision

[drifting grove]

I'd love to, but the Royal Ordnance Company isn't exactly pleasing me. Rhienmetal seems to be good.

[hard cedar]

Well after you get some more fxp you can grind the 4202 without dying inside

[haughty forge]

@hard cedar some? You need more than some

[drifting grove]

My first battle with a non-Brit. Generaloberst Heinz Guderian would be proud.

[hard cedar]

fair enough

[west rapids]

If you want to let the caer collect dust until mad games, that is fine. You don’t have to push yourself to play tanks that you aren’t good at

[hollow notch]

Here we have the comet known for being an insanely broken tier 7

75% crew on the cent is not taken into account here

And even when upgraded the cent1 sucks.

Armor is pathetic, the tank is huge, no alpha means it has to constantly peek to do any actual damage, and it's not exactly a speed demon either

[west rapids]

Yeah sometimes I played the cent one and wondered why I was still using a gun that could do 200 dmg tops at tier 8,

But somehow I came to enjoy it

[solid gate]

whan 60 tp come

[drifting grove]

It's alright, I'm sticking with the Germans. I'm already in love with their high damage per hit.

[past crane]

You’re showing the Centurion stock so it’s not a fair comparison.

[spare solar]

I have a suggestion lets not ban me over bloody simple things like APOLOGIZING FOR A BLOODY JOKE THAT SOMEONE DID NOT LIKE

like dam

I didnt do anything tho i made a joke someone didn't like it so i apologize then out of the blue i got banned

The ban shouldn't be spammed over something simple

Smasher isnt op

Have to stand still for a better shot like the kv2 it only seem op because it can obliterate people

[thick trout]

"The definition of stupidity is doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result"?

[spare solar]

It cant snap very well and if so then its bad luck mine never bloody hit an snap shot alway miss

[hard cedar]

ah yes
a tank can't snapshot so therefore it's bad

[spare solar]

I never said its bad i said its not op

Totally different

[hard cedar]

whether or not a tank can snapshot is not what makes a tank op most of the time just look at anni

[fast compass]

Spoilers: the guy will probably say annihilator is not op either

[spare solar]

I dont have nor like the anni

But i do enjoy slaughtering them with my tiger

And with my smasher from a distance

@fast compass yall are entitled to yall opinions but it seems like yall sure do hate when i say the smasher isnt op which its not in my view,which yall straight up get salty about my view of the tank😂

[fast compass]

You are free to believe what you want. This is a public forum, if you want to state your views, be ready to take criticism as well

[spare solar]

Which why i reply back with criticism

Besides the anni never coming back cant get it if i tried and i can just harras em with my tiger no biggy

[hollow notch]

Anni never coming back...
Wait until he learns about all the other Halloween tanks

[humble trail]

I'd like to see Obj. 705 A on the battlefield one day

[calm drum]

Warning logged for Saying smasher isn't op again#5893. I couldn't DM them.

[humble trail]

but there's one problem

IS-2sh that should be tier 8 of this line is a premium tank

then it's hard to implement it

[wintry orchid]

Maybe they do a worse version and call it IS-M

[spare solar]

Seriously again someone tried to ban me

I guess im extremely hated here😂

[spare solar]

I dont understand this actually except someone called the bot on me again

If its about my name i will continue saying its not☕

[hard cedar]

if you had dms on maybe you would know why you got warned

[spare solar]

It is on never was off

Last text i got from that bot was about me being banned for 7 days

Wrong pic

[hard cedar]

" I couldn't DM them." ?

[spare solar]

Not closed let alone idk how to close dm

Well not my problem the bot didn't get through

Im gonna view it as a good thing since people spamming that bloody bot on me

[hard cedar]

i mean if dyno dmed you that means you broke a rule
dunno if that's a good thing

[spare solar]

How to turn off dm anyway and what rule majority of them was over small things or just plain petty and stupid

Let bloody alone i apologize to a furry for a joke and i got banned for a week

This so called for a reason miss me with that bull

[hard cedar]

🥴

[spare solar]

Just saying people are abusing that dam bot

[hard cedar]

how are they abusing it 🤔

[spare solar]

Petty banning bruh

F it keep yall bull those bitcs

[hard cedar]

well dunno what you did exactly but 🤷‍♂️

[hollow moth]

@Saying smasher isn't op again#5893 get rekt.

[thorny smelt]

I like WZ Blaze TBH. The gun and mobility is what I like from it.

[vocal plover]

the lorraine is fun

I never played the 50 100 yet but I gotta assume it's like that

[violet timber]

50 100 is fun imo

[thorny smelt]

As a second line tank. It is like a GIANT medium tank

[vocal plover]

ram the f out of the T49 trying to HE the rear of my heavies

[thorny smelt]

Oh that T49. More like a mobile tank destroyer

[vocal plover]

mobile Su-152

[thorny smelt]

100%

[violet timber]

I like calling it the YEET wagon

[vocal plover]

bruh but I love the Lorraine now

[violet timber]

Lorraine didn't click for me as much as other autoloaders

[vocal plover]

I got the 13 57 and Lorraine bundle, at first I sucked at it but now I love it to bits

I still suck in the 13 90

[thorny smelt]

I'll restore the AMX 50 100 pretty soon after I stupidly sell it like a dumbA

[vocal plover]

God this thing is so fun

[slender cliff]

Any good premium to spend 10k gold on? I’ve had my premium currency just sitting in my garage until the end of time

[hard cedar]

right now? no

[solid gate]

How is repair cost calculated exactly?

[onyx sluice]

Save up more and get a tier 10 premium, they are all rather nice.

[real plover]

Just bought the STG. It's actually pretty fun

[sacred trail]

I’m about to buy the Doombarn tomorrow and I’m considering which line to push next. What should I go for?

[civic charm]

su100 with 120mm is massive team assist

[fast compass]

It is based on a repair coefficient. Although I don't think anyone (not a dev) fully knows how it is calculated. More you get damaged, more you pay. Pretty sure damaged modules add to the cost

[sacred trail]

It is, but the reload is much worse. The shots are worth it tho

[thorny smelt]

The reload is alright. It is faster than KV-1S

[sacred trail]

Yeah, I’ve carried using that gun twice. One of which I was camping all game from corner A on Canal and got 6 kills while a Thunder was calling us all bots

[thorny smelt]

LOL That Thunder is nuts. I get ammo rack Pz IV Gargoyle and KV-2 with my SU-100

[mighty tinsel]

In a scale of 1-10, how good is the Foch 155 in a tier 10 match?

[civic charm]

i killed enemy su100 with my 120mm su100 in one shot by exploding his ammo rack
yes 800+ damage

reload is just fine

[sacred trail]

I even ram-killed a KV-2 going in to finish them off, but look at all these awards: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502018749197451274/826585090803892234/image0.png

[thorny smelt]

I carried the whole team and won

[spark roost]

Guys is the maus still a good tank after the nerf?

[thorny smelt]

I think so. Only the HP and dispersion are nerfed

I'm happy that VK 72.01 K and E 100 were not affected by nerf

[grizzled fog]

Im on my way to the vk7201 K but im at the tiger P and i have it fully researched with free XP, how do you all play this tank? Do you go along with the heavies or meds? Do you frontline or stay back?

[thorny smelt]

It is a heavium so going frontline is not ideal. As well as with VK 45.02 A.

[onyx sluice]

Go with the heavies, if you're in a good match-up go frontline. Against tier 8s stay in the back and provide support.

Angle your armor but not too much.

[ionic gazelle]

Is Jackson good?

[amber blaze]

Yea can be annoying if played correctly

[manic carbon]

The Tiger P has so many weakspots that angling won’t do much really

[amber blaze]

I only play tiger 1 but both tiger 1 and tiger p playstyles are very similar. Push heavy and try to hold down the heavy side of the map. If you arrive before the opponents then angle the side of the tank or play haul down (of opponents are T7.) If they push their T8 heavies at u then play as a support

[amber blaze]

Haul down may actually be better for it as some t7 may struggle penning the tiger unless they use premium

[manic carbon]

Hulldown is always good for tanks because you are exposing less of your tank to the enemy and such. But unfortunately it does have that large rounded hatch on top which isn’t hard to penetrate

[onyx sluice]

It does, especially if you're facing T7s. It dosen't have the huge lower plate that the Tiger 1 has.

[thick trout]

The strongest angle for the tiger p is a about 15° which isn't really worth doing...

[hexed raven]

^^You're more likely to expose the atrocious side armor by angling in the tiger p. It's not like the 200mm front armor needs that much help in the first place. The lower glacis remains weak even when angled too.

There's also the fact that the front plate has 45° tapered corners, so angled or not it's still ~200mm of front armor

[amber blaze]

Yea

Overall the tiger 1 is a better grind

[glad lark]

I've heard people talk about tier 10 premiums but I cant seem to find any, are they only available in special offers time to time?

[brave night]

@glad lark they show up in the shop from time to time but there is almost always a tier 10 during the Christmas auction

[violet timber]

They only come around every once in a while, with probably the 30B or 121B coming next iirc

[hard cedar]

30b just came though

[glad lark]

ok good to know, im waiting for the lowe to come in a bundle but should i save for a tier 10 instead?

[violet timber]

Oh it did? Sorry I haven’t been laying much attention to the shop recently

[brave night]

imo you should just save for Black Friday and Christmas rn

[violet timber]

Save for Christmas since Black Friday usually doesn’t have any tier 10s since there aren’t any American tier 10 premiums or collectors unless you count the Sheri Misisle.

[hard cedar]

Cough t95e6 cough

[violet timber]

Oh yeah that exists

[solid gate]

Hello, whats the best medium to grind?

[brave night]

I mean right now fv4202, e50m or m48

[violet timber]

Vickers light. In all seriousness, probably 62A, STB, or Patton

[solid gate]

Not the progetto?

[brave night]

Prog is still good

[solid gate]

Hmm, i want the best tech tree medium

[violet timber]

Prog is kinda falling behind since the other meds now have insane dpm

[brave night]

I think right now the best med is e50m to be honest

[violet timber]

Probably 62A, Patton, or E50M

[hard cedar]

Stb noises :(

[solid gate]

So guys which one should i grind for?

[brave night]

Stb got power crept massively by Patton kek

[violet timber]

The easiest grind is either the 62A or E50M

[solid gate]

Is the 62A a russian?

[hard cedar]

Not really it still has a way better armor profile

[violet timber]

Yes.

[solid gate]

Does it have good depression? Or what its called

[brave night]

It has 7° of gd and has a solid turret and great dpm

[solid gate]

Which medium have good turret and good depression?

[violet timber]

STB.

[brave night]

Patton

[solid gate]

Is it fast? Does it have good dpm?

[brave night]

Patton is a bit slower than stb but has more dpm

[violet timber]

Patton’s turret is weaker and it doesn’t have as much gd. @solid gate Yes, the STB is fast and has relatively good dpm

[solid gate]

So basically the best one is STB?

[brave night]

I mean stb has pennable cheeks and has the cupola I would say the Patton is only slightly worse

[hard cedar]

The Patton has a worse armor profile than the stb for sure

[violet timber]

Patton also has cheeks that are way easier to pen

[brave night]

Turret is similar plus with the dpm

[violet timber]

Patton has less armor and less gd

[solid gate]

Hmmmm, idk which one i should grind for

[hard cedar]

Turret is not similar

[violet timber]

Both of the grinds are kinda pain

[hard cedar]

Stb grind good wdym 💪

[solid gate]

Isnt the obj 140 good?

[violet timber]

Haha no. 62A better.

[solid gate]

Thanks, im gonna grind for the 62A

[hard cedar]

140 more fun!

[violet timber]

140 is more fun, but the 62A is better

[haughty forge]

62 is more fun

[rigid thunder]

wuh am I missing some meta level sarcasm

[solid gate]

How is 140 more fun

[real plover]

the 121B came before the Chieftain, the AMX M4 54 came before the 30 B and the 30 B came before the VK 90. So its just waiting i guess

[ornate coral]

Absolutely

[hard cedar]

62a is just sit in a hulldown position and left click
140 is more aggro and is more of a brawling tank

[wheat barn]

Can WG buff conqueror and caernavron turret since black prince turret is stronger than caernavron and conqueror turret..If u dont trust

[violet timber]

It’s better tier for tier, but not overall

[split oasis]

Does anybody know when super conqueror crates are coming

[lapis cave]

is STB-1 good?

[west rapids]

Yes

[violet timber]

It’s probably gonna come for just gold next time as they’ve already put it in but it was a chain bundle

[split oasis]

I'm super excited for it

[violet timber]

It’s a pretty nice tank

[slender cliff]

Aight will do

[near obsidian]

Sup.

[high venture]

Will the Caernarvon Action X receive a buff on the turret armour because I'm getting penetrated a lot in it and not only the capolla and it's quit annoying for a tank that is supposed to have a strong turret armour

[plucky summit]

Nah, I think it's fair considering there's Caernarvon

[slender cliff]

It’s a good tank. The turret is Great for hull down situations and the gun is quite accurate. The only downside is that the sides are very weak when over angling and the overall mobility is somewhat lackluster. Despite this, it’s quite nice to play. It deserves the name of a proper heavy tank

[slender cliff]

Just keep wiggling the turret and moving up and down. It makes it a lot more effective.

[mighty tinsel]

What if the 183 had APCR as prammo?

[violet timber]

Overkill pen

[plucky summit]

Well you see, HESH is standard, AP is prammo ;)

[real plover]

I almost pulled off a clutch game in my Leo

But T29 go brrr :/

[thorny mulch]

Rip

Any good tech tree line recommendations? I’m at a bit of a roadblock right now

[copper swan]

STB 1 line

[thorny mulch]

Ok so what makes the stb-1 so special?

[latent meteor]

Stb 1 line is terrible.
Stb 1 is good, so it makes it worth it.
If you're looking for a good line, I'd say out of the ones I've done the Maus and OBJ/T62A lines are good

[fast compass]

Low profile, lots of gun depression, decent gun, enough turret armor. It is a dream mid Ridgeline fighter

[thorny mulch]

Alright yeah I’ve figured that since I never ground a full medium tier 10 lineup.

[thorny mulch]

That sounds good! I’ve always wanted to own a medium with a solid turret and hull down play style

How would you compare it to the t62a? Or the 140?

[fast compass]

It's a grind and a half to get it.

Well the 62a also shines mid range hulldown with its laser gun and turret. But it isn't as flexible over Ridgelines. But it fairs far better when mopping up end game with better dpm. And the 140 is a pure brawler. It doesn't do that well hulldown. It shines when people don't get time to aim and don't have overkill pen

[hard cedar]

The stb-1 grind really is not that bad the sta-1 is the only bad tank
Chi to is too but it's tier 6 so

[fast compass]

It's mostly just a long grind. With 325k xp required on the type 61. But even then I didn't really enjoy the mid tier japanese meds. Ig they just weren't meant for me

[latent meteor]

Then go t62a or stb.
Personally, I'd say t62a (cause of line) but STB is a good med

[latent meteor]

Haven't done STB line on account of the tanks before it. Never appealed to me, and always are paper targets

[thorny mulch]

@fast compass @latent meteor @hard cedar
Thanks for the information guys. I am totally going to look at the stb and the t62a and maybe i think I’ll start with the t62a line first because of the “line” itself and I do have some experience with a Russian med which was the t-44-100 (playing it was quite fun) . Of course I’m not putting down the stb since it proves to be very flexible and sturdy on ridges especially and as a general medium tank in the current meta (I’m assuming) but the only thing I’m concerned with it is the line that leads up to it. After all, I haven’t played in a while and I do prefer to start off with easier tanks as you can say.

[latent meteor]

Yw. :)

[coarse raptor]

playing the e5 again

the new dpm hurts

[exotic falcon]

Guys how long of a gun did the maus have in meters?

[slender cliff]

7 meters

It used the kwk pak 44 gun

[exotic falcon]

The caliber is 128 mm right?

[slender cliff]

Ye

[thorny smelt]

If only the Death Toaster can open up like this in Blitz.
PS. This is a mod in WOT PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuaON_7BSR8

[mighty tinsel]

I have here, a list of all tier 10 TDs.

USA: E3, E4
USSR: 263, 268
Germany: Grille, Jageroo
France: Foch 155
UK: 183, 4005, Badger
China: WZ 113 GFT
Japan: Ho-ri

In the opinion of you guys, which TD is the best, and which is the worst?

[fleet rock]

hi all , how to get new legendary camo discount offer , should we do mastery ?

[calm inlet]

worst is 183

best is grille

[fleet rock]

183 can rip on paper tank if you are unlucky lol

[exotic falcon]

Like atleast buff the credit coefficient of the 183

[calm inlet]

no

make 183 drivers suffer

personally i would like it to be nerfed, just to discourage people from playing it

[manic carbon]

Even with all the drawbacks it has, it remains highly played. It’s fine where it is

[onyx sluice]

I don't understand the dread of the 183, maybe a few good players do well with it but the ones I've faced never did that well.

[thick trout]

Can't push anywhere until it's spotted, and to spot it early you normally have to push.

So you just end up with a stalemate until someone pushes and gets lucky or gets nuked

[onyx sluice]

It's not that hard to spot it and there's always someone pushing.

[thick trout]

To spot it you have to be exposed, which means you have to be at risk of taking 1300 dmg. You also have to be at risk of being pummeled by the rest of the reds and there really isn't always someone pushing...

[violet timber]

Best: E3
Worst: 183

[rigid thunder]

best: the maus
worst: obviously ho-ri

[onyx sluice]

Since when is the Maus a TD?

[sly plover]

Do you see any of maus in Frontline

[onyx sluice]

Sometimes. I main heavies and always find the rest of the team camping.

[sly plover]

Maus is a td im a proud owner of one

[rigid thunder]

same, the maus is a great td

[vocal plover]

none so far

[vocal plover]

I recommend the Badger if it pops up again

[hard cedar]

dont get the badger thank you have a nice day

[violet timber]

Badger is kind of meh, better to get Chief mk.6, soup conq, VK 90 (If you can), or 121B

[vocal plover]

I already did, it's actually good as an assault tank and not a camp tank

[violet timber]

E3 better

[vocal plover]

true but it's the British E3

[violet timber]

It's just kinda a meh tank

[vocal plover]

in WotPC this thing is supposed to be at the end of the line after the tortoise

[violet timber]

In WoTPC it has actual dpm. In Blitz they butchered the dpm

[vocal plover]

not for me, besides the 121B really? the regular 121 is already pog

[hard cedar]

why would you want a 121 it's a 62a-121 hybrid that loses the good aspects of both tanks

[violet timber]

It's the best premium tier 10 med unless you count the M60, but the M60 doesn't come nearly as often

[hard cedar]

t22 🤨

[violet timber]

T22 doesn't really come for gold except that one time

[hard cedar]

yes but still better than a 121

[violet timber]

Oh yeah, it's just a lot harder to get

[vocal plover]

bruh if you call the Badger mediocre the 121B is even more so, it's a shittier 62A

[violet timber]

Not hard when the T-62A is one of the best tier 10 meds, but okay

[hard cedar]

i mean both are mediocre sooo

[vocal plover]

just get the 62A at that point

[violet timber]

Badger just loses a lot and doesn't really gain anything meaningful

[real plover]

So I’ve been playing the FV4202 and I’ve decided to sell it. Why? Centurion 7/1 is better. It actually has a gun mantlet, can go against tier 8s and has the same gun

[violet timber]

4202 became one of the best tier 10 meds with the new update due to the fact it can yolo anything other than a heavy and win due to HESH alone

[real plover]

I kept trying to do the hull down type of play with it because that’s what I learned with the centurion

[violet timber]

You can't keep your turret in dirrect view of the enemy, you have to pop up, shoot, then get back down

[real plover]

I know. It’s what I did with the centurion. Everything just seems to be able to pen it way easier than the centurion

So imo centurion was better due to having better turret and ability to encounter tier 8

[plucky summit]

FV4202 having more APCR DPM than Cent 7/1's HESH xD

[real plover]

I just wanna be able to hulldown and not get penned super easily. Besides, centurion was my favorite

[hollow notch]

Solution: kran

[real plover]

Can’t give me a “solution: kran” when I’m only as far as the Leo, I went down the centurion line first and really enjoyed it. Besides, kran is semi-brain dead and relatively low skill ceiling. Centurions is much higher

[plucky summit]

Ok well you gotta trade skill ceiling for vitality

[real plover]

All I gotta say is I love centurion more

[plucky summit]

I guess FV4202 is just too chaotic

[humble trail]

Well, IS-2Sh is already a very bad tank, then what's the point of making a worthless tank even more worthless? Maybe by buffing already implemented IS and copy paste the IS-M as a tech tree with stats of IS-2Sh pre-buff or a small buff making the playstyle more comfortable

[solid gate]

tiger II upgrade path?

[hearty oasis]

its me or maus looking kinda THICC

[thorny smelt]

M6 is the original THICCC tank LOL

[onyx sluice]

Turret, gun, engine, tracks.

[slender cliff]

Ok

[frigid quest]

Best: Grille or Ho-Ri
Worst: 183

[haughty forge]

foch, jageroo, 263, 268, hori, e3, 4005, badger are one of the best.
rest is mediocre

[brave night]

Sad grille and 113 gft noises

[hard cedar]

Since when were badger and jag one of the best

[haughty forge]

since always in my opinion @hard cedar

[hard cedar]

🥴

Why badger when you can just e3

[haughty forge]

dpm and more armor

[west rapids]

Wz 113 could be up there too, with all the consumables it has

[violet timber]

Since when did Badger have more armor than the E3?

[raw tusk]

Since always

[thorny mulch]

The badger has some serious armor

[violet timber]

E3’s is better though

[haughty forge]

dont know, i can butter e3 with cs jag heat but badger is a serious problem

[thorny mulch]

Yeah from the front. Didn’t they buff it’s cupola?

[haughty forge]

against tds i believe they did

[violet timber]

It wasn’t buffed, it was just changed

[thorny mulch]

Try to shoot right in the center of the two bumps that protrude from the badgers front. It should be an auto pen with the jag

[haughty forge]

they always appear red

[thorny mulch]

Oh how so then

[violet timber]

The base amount was nerfed but it gained a ton of spaced making it more effective against HEAT

[haughty forge]

e3 armor is now harder to penetrate in tds

[thorny mulch]

Yeah I think it only works if you are facehugging the badger. A slight angle makes the badgers armor titanium

[haughty forge]

yeah...

[thorny mulch]

That’s good I’m glad

[haughty forge]

idk i no longer can butter e3 cupola with jag cs heat and with normal cs ap i have to hit the exact centre or sides of da cupola

[hard cedar]

how can you not pen this with 418 heat

[haughty forge]

@hard cedar have you seen it in game? what is the point in me lying?

[hard cedar]

i have seen it ingame and i can pen it headon with 374 heat

[haughty forge]

hm.. I must have met it in awkward angle

[thorny mulch]

Yeah

[solid gate]

.

[haughty forge]

no idea.. last time i met badger it was still red

[thorny mulch]

It might be the armor highlighting. I don’t know for sure

[plucky summit]

I mean that’s 418mm of HEAT penetration so

[thorny mulch]

Yeah the t110e3’s frontal armor is superior to the badgers. But this…

[plucky summit]

I think the Badger is much morr suitable against standard shells, and can more easily manipulate its effectiveness

[hard cedar]

nobody is gonna hit that in game

[plucky summit]

I do with my 183 😎

[thorny mulch]

I’ve hit that small sub-cupola before

[plucky summit]

T95 kinda has it too

[fiery sandal]

What are the main benefits of choosing the challenger line over the comet line

Can’t decide between the two

[hard cedar]

both are good id say 4005 is the harder to play
the t8 in the comet line is pretty meh though

[haughty forge]

challenger and charioteer can run dpm gun and eat them both alive

[haughty forge]

@gentle wasp because it's 2v2?

[fiery sandal]

Is the ****barn better or is the Death Star?

[hard cedar]

death star should not exist

[fiery sandal]

Ah,

I may get ostracized for this, but what do people like about the ARL 44?

I played it, and disliked it

And then played the AMX 4 mle. And hated it

I guess the AMX 45’s was sort of solid when I played it

However I can crack the whole front of the ARL in SU-100y with a little help of Russian bias

[haughty forge]

didnt amx get movility nerf

[violet timber]

I enjoyed the 50 100 the most out of the line for some reason

[fiery sandal]

I’ve noticed the amx 45 looks a lot like a tiger II

[thick trout]

It got one not too long after it got the armour buff so the lower plate was tiger 2 like before it was cool lol (iirc someone pls correct me)

[violet timber]

It was literally meant to be a French copy of it

[peak spindle]

hi what do you recommend for a prenium tier viii heavy tank (with high damage preferably)? thx

[violet timber]

A premium tier 8 heavy tank? Shark, 252U, and Celetial are the big 3 that come to mind, as well as AMX m4 49 and Chrysler K from personal experience

[willow seal]

He said "with high damage" and no T8 heavy has higher alpha than VK168 :v

[haughty forge]

he didnt say highest

[violet timber]

I also wouldn't recommend it, which he also said.

[covert dagger]

I honestly really want to see these in the game.

[thorny mulch]

ooo landships (I like the smk)

[violet timber]

landships aren't practical

[thorny mulch]

Wg is sure going to have a hard time balancing these things 😂

[violet timber]

They already have the T-28 in the game

[thorny mulch]

I think the T-28 only has mgs as secondaries

[violet timber]

There's also the Grosstractor (I don't have a german keyboard)

[dull raptor]

Same

[thorny mulch]

A land ship but it actually looks like a ship

[covert dagger]

I think its better for WG to add Landships instead of more Fake Vehicles, they're Uneque and I think give a interesting Game Play.

[valid gale]

Not really and impossible to add a multi turret mechanic

T28 being an example on how bad it was

[thorny smelt]

Is Panzer 58 that rare? I only saw one in a match a few days ago.

[hard cedar]

i dont think it's rare it's just nobody plays it cuz it isn't anything special

[violet timber]

There's also a free version called the Indien Panzer

[thorny mulch]

Waiting for the next auction

[neat nimbus]

i wish wg put on the upper plate of the lowe the german emblem just like the tiger 2

i mean makes sense as would make anyone knows what it belongs

[verbal orchid]

Can nerf smasher pls wg?

[quasi needle]

they will not nerf it

[civic charm]

why t34 and t34-85 have bad front armor

did they really follow the ww2 thing that it was just numbers😂 ?

[keen garnet]

Any tips for the SU-101?
Would be appreciated :)

[zealous anchor]

Been a while since i last played, but i remember i liked to do calculated push with mediums. even as sniparr it is quite fine, its different from su100m1's awesome dpm, but it has nice alpha and heat pen iirc. the armour is workable when wigggling. ultimately, i think most important thing is not to overestimate its ability to yolo

Maybe someone else can help you with this too :> @keen garnet

[keen garnet]

Ah thanks for taking the time to type all dat :)
Appreciate the help

[rigid thunder]

it's pretty terrible tbh, sniping is troublesome due to lackluster 420 alpha and poor velocity, accuracy isn't the best either.
DPM is also absolutely trash, armour never works, and I'd advise you to free exp it, or grind it with boosters.

[keen garnet]

I'm using the 280 alpha gun, the one that gives you the max DPM, I did consider FXPing it but I've already bought it and no FXP left so IG I'll grind it lol

[rigid thunder]

imo the 100mm isn't worth it just because your gun handling gets worse, and your AP pen is absolute dogwater. Also 310 alpha is really really bad

[haughty forge]

@keen garnet i could help you in a toon :)

[plucky summit]

I can’t :)

[hard cedar]

you can help me Lowe in a toon though!

[plucky summit]

😳

I can later but I got college classes

Also I just moved in so idk how well the internet supports yet

[kindred wren]

All I hear is excuses

[plucky summit]

Yes.

[subtle mango]

is mt25 worth it?

[hard cedar]

😳

[past crane]

Currently grinding credits rn, but should I get the Object 704 or AMX 50 120 first. I have both researched.

[hollow moth]

Go for the 704, it'll be a satisfying experience

[covert dagger]

No asking for them to add a multi-turret system, still just want to use 1 main turret.

[real plover]

That is, after you max it. And the playstyle is sit at the back of the map and snipe.

[slow lagoon]

Regarding the panther 2 should it get a damage buff?

[hollow moth]

Who in the world get Obj 704 before researching BL-10?

[real plover]

Dunno. Why wouldn’t you research BL-10 lol

It’ll be satisfying after you get max engine an tracks.

[hollow moth]

I enjoyed the tank even without the other modules, that was when I mastered it twice

[past crane]

When I got the 704 I had both engine and gun unlocked, I just need the tracks

[mighty tinsel]

What tanks are immune to Kranvagn facehug?

[plucky summit]

Immune by "can't be penetrated" or "can penetrate the Kranvagn"?

[mighty tinsel]

Can penetrate Kran. Besides ho ri.

[plucky summit]

If you can penetrate 340mm with HEAT, 330mm with APCR, or 312mm with AP, then the turret under the gun can be penetrated without Enhanced Armor

[mighty tinsel]

I see.

[humble trail]

oh god

why did u ping me

[austere hare]

Bought cromwell b is it a good tank?

[plucky summit]

Yes, many will argue it's the best t6 med

Also fellow FT AC enjoyer, I hope you know that it can waddle and swim deep :p

[stiff sedge]

hello :v

[exotic falcon]

Guys What if the fv4005 stage 2 had AP shells would it be as strong as the AP on the fv215b 183?

[hollow moth]

No.

[exotic falcon]

Then what would happen?

[hollow moth]

It would have 2 shells in the clip.

[exotic falcon]

Like realistically how thick of a armor could It have penetrated or would it just not work?

[hollow moth]

Number of shells in the clip don't change penetration or alpha.

[exotic falcon]

No I'm talking about real life

[hollow moth]

Fv4005 was never fully built and tested, only mockups were made.

[exotic falcon]

Wait there weren't?

[hollow moth]

Most of the tier 10 on this game were never build in a fully operational prototype.

[exotic falcon]

Oh :(

But let's say what if it was fully built and tested would it have been a effective tank?

[hollow moth]

I don't think so. Too big and not enough armor.

[exotic falcon]

Oh

But there were prototypes of the gun that would've been used in them right?

[hollow moth]

I have no information about this.

[exotic falcon]

And they only shot hesh

[exotic falcon]

Oh welp I guess it's time to head to quora

[hollow moth]

Same answer, I have no information about this.

[hollow moth]

Tank encyclopedia is more trustworthy tho

[exotic falcon]

What's that?

[hollow moth]

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/

[exotic falcon]

That looks really interesting aight see you in the next 4 hours

[hollow notch]

@exotic falcon

[sacred trail]

Honestly the only places I’ve seen guns larger than 183 millimeters are on SPGs, field mortars, and on battleships where they can go on 405 millimeters and even larger

Haven’t seen exactly 183 mm on other practical tank projects other than prototypes and mockups on the 183 and 4005

[violet timber]

I'm 99% sure the largest gun ever fitted to a tank was on the Sturmtiger, but I could be wrong

[sacred trail]

Yeah, I think that one was about 39 centimeters in caliber

[slender cliff]

The sturmtiger was a missile launcher

[charred dragon]

no it launched human beings😄

a 380 mm gun

[slender cliff]

True yes human beans

[slender cliff]

I also had over 70000 gold once

[undone gull]

which is the better Gun for KV-2 - VI or VII having trouble with both selection and gun type

[thorny smelt]

The 152 mm M-10 derp gun is quite popular

Go for 107 mm Zis-6 gun if you want more DPM and higher penetration in exchange for high alpha.

[undone gull]

thanks @thorny smelt

I will try both crew is still new - only 80% bought to 75% using credits

[slender cliff]

Do the derp or die

[undone gull]

is 152 mm Derp gun VII ??

[slender cliff]

No it’s vI. don’t play the top gun

[undone gull]

OK!! thanks heaps pro

[slender cliff]

Aight have fun lol

[slender cliff]

Yes DO IT

[undone gull]

found it

[thorny smelt]

I don't play KV-2 though. I suffered so much with that tank than KV-1S

[slender cliff]

It requires patience and derp

[undone gull]

I have got KV-1S and enriched its good value the KV-2 is the last Tier 6 tank left in my tech trees to both research and collect

[slender cliff]

Don’t enrich tanks tho

[undone gull]

this is my main Teir 6 comp tank for tournaments

[thorny smelt]

Same

[limber merlin]

Should I actually get the ST-I?

[hollow belfry]

If you have lots of free exp, yes

[limber merlin]

I already unlocked it.

[hollow belfry]

I meant it as free exp needed to research modules

[thorny smelt]

Going for the IS-4 line?

[limber merlin]

Yeah

[hollow belfry]

Because a stock ST-I is pure pain so get your free experience ready, supposing you didn’t grind the IS-7 line before

[limber merlin]

Alright. I like the is4 more

[hollow belfry]

You probably wouldn’t want to play a slow stock t9 heavy with the same gun as the tier 7 IS, would you?

[limber merlin]

I like suffering.

[hollow belfry]

Go on then?

[limber merlin]

Alright. I'll start grinding for 2 Million.

[minor nexus]

The best TD tank in tier X?

[limber merlin]

WZ 113G FT i think

[minor nexus]

Im grinding on T110E3 but they said it got nerfed

[limber merlin]

In 8.2 i think WZ 113 is good

[thorny smelt]

Yeah. They buffed it and I'm aiming for that line

[minor nexus]

Thanks, I'll be looking for it

[slender cliff]

Go for it. It’s a great tier 9. If you are in search of a true heavy, the st-1 fits your need

[slender cliff]

Not really. It’s still insanely good

[limber merlin]

Alright.

[slender cliff]

Lucky I got the bl-9 from the is-3 then grinded the st-1. It was pretty good even when stock imo

[hollow belfry]

Because you had the BL-9

[slender cliff]

That’s exactly what I said

[hollow belfry]

If that player didn’t grind the IS-7 line he either has to save tons of free exp before playing the tank or use the D-25T

[slender cliff]

Usually before I grind out a stock tank I save a lot of fxp before I research it

[hollow belfry]

So do I. That or when grinding several lines in the same tree, I research/play tanks in a certain order to minimize the amounts of free exp spent

[minor nexus]

The best LT in tier X? I'm still looking for it

[inland ivy]

vickers light

[minor nexus]

British nation tank?

Oh thanks

[drifting grove]

How's the 122mm gun on the KV-1S? The 400 alpha damage with APs is amazing, but the 20 second reload seems a bit much.

[hollow belfry]

With equipment and provisions it should go down to ~15.5s

[drifting grove]

Is it good with the 16sec reload? Better than the 85mm?

[hollow belfry]

The 85mm has better dpm but much worse penetration and gun depression so I wouldn’t consider it as an option

[drifting grove]

So 122mm is better then? Thanks.

[hollow belfry]

Yup. The KV-1s isn’t a dpm heavy but if you are grinding soviet heavies I would play it over the KV-2 any day

[drifting grove]

I'm doing th e IS-7 line. That's why I went with the KV-1S.

[minor nexus]

Is IS-4 still good?

[hollow belfry]

It’s still very strong

[drifting grove]

IS-7 is better, though. And not in the least because it's easier to grind than as the tanks in its line are all good while the KV-4 sucks.

[minor nexus]

Hmm, hard decision

[hollow belfry]

I wouldn’t really call the IS-7 the better tank but it is generally recommended to do the IS-7 first. As said, it is indeed an easier grind and also unlocks you some much-needed modules for the IS-4 line.

[minor nexus]

Oh ok, i think that's clear now

[drifting grove]

They're both good, but the IS-7 has marginally superior firepower, and it's armour is better suited to its playstyle. Also, the LFG is harder to hit on the IS-7.

[wheat quarry]

What do u think about the Kanonenjagdpanzer?

Like it/balanced)stupid?

Precision sniping is neat with 100mm

[karmic osprey]

Should I buy 112 glacial

[wheat quarry]

Yes, If U Want a heavy moneymaker

[mighty tinsel]

What’s the second worst premium besides super Pershing?

[wheat quarry]

Kanonenjagdpanzer.
Its only good at Pixelsniping without making much dmg

[thorny smelt]

Weak armor and low alpha for its tier

[wheat quarry]

Yep, with Low firerate and high cost of shells

[thorny smelt]

E 25 is also like that but I guess this one is special

[wheat quarry]

And the Kanonenjagdpanzer costed me 250 € to get IT, For real

[thorny smelt]

I'll stay away from that and buy a better tank

[wheat quarry]

Good Idea, Kpz.70 or E75TS or Le.Kpz.90mm

Are much better

[thorny smelt]

I'm aiming for SU-130 PM or better. The only premium tank destroyer I have is WZ Blaze.

Or MBT-70

[solid gate]

MBT-70’s not that good, nor not that bad. its dead in the middle, but Its a nice tank to grind creds with

[thorny smelt]

I guess the hull is the concern?

A heavy that is more like a medium?

[proud kayak]

Guys should WG add a british Light tank line but the t10 is the manticore like in wot pc?

[thorny smelt]

There is the Vicker's Light already

[solid gate]

Precisely, Turret armours decent but Hull is butter

[thorny smelt]

I'll better stay away from it

[solid gate]

Your choice mate, I enjoy that tank, it grinds decent amt of creds, I play it like an MT except you cant hull down much because bad gun dep.

[thorny smelt]

I'll just stick with my AMX M4 49 and WZ-112 Glacial. I found them to be decent heavies. I also like KV-5 and VK 168.01 P as frontline tanks.

[ornate coral]

M4 49 = T8 Amx 54

[violet timber]

Easily the E3

[ornate coral]

Jagdpanzer

[solid gate]

Ho-Ri for me, Its generally the only TD I enjoy

[thorny smelt]

France's tank destroyers are weird from tiers 4 to 7.

[ornate coral]

But in world war, they were very useful

[plucky summit]

It took me $5 USD lol

[wheat quarry]

That is interesting

[plucky summit]

Yup, got it second crate

Took me $190 worth of gold for AMX M4 mke 54 though

[kindred wren]

Unhealthy spending habit 👀

[ornate coral]

rip pocket money!

[plucky summit]

Nah I got college now, not spending for Blitz until I’m unreasonably rich

[kindred wren]

Unreasonably rich means 100$ on the bank? 😉

[plucky summit]

LOL more like when I hit $10000 or sumn

[solid gate]

@hushed shadow discussing here because of extremely long slowdown

[subtle mango]

ok so i decided to make a new acc in wotb and i chose the t34, and im an LT and HT player, is mt-25 and other tank models after it in there worth the buy?

[covert dagger]

I give you, the Upgraded MS-1; other known as the T-19.

[plucky summit]

It is inferior

[spark roost]

Guys i got a discount for 131 legendary camo for my maus but i wand to get legionary camo, will legionary camo get a discount after some other days?

[split dawn]

huh

[willow bane]

Wich EU line is better to play with: 🇨🇿 , 🇮🇹 or 🇸🇪 ?

[thorn hound]

Spanish tanks

[willow bane]

First looks like a Pz. II and the last kinda remind me of the german Hummel

[austere hare]

Is jagdpanzer e100 worth the grind?

[willow bane]

Yep, I think so. I'm on the Jgdtiger now...

150K to go

[violet timber]

It’s pretty fun

[solid gate]

If u like heavies go the kran line ,if u like.mediums with clippers go the progetto line, grind the skoda line after u grind the progetto line because it will make u get used to playing paper armoured clipping mediums

[hollow notch]

Prog superiority

[violet timber]

Skoda supremacy

[slender cliff]

It’s very powerful. Especially doing those juicy 900+ damage rolls

[hard cedar]

Or just get a ho ri or smth
ggez

[violet timber]

Or just get E3 or smth

[thorny mulch]

Or 268

[violet timber]

E3 best tier 10 td ez claps

[thorny mulch]

How sluggish is the e3 compared to the jag?

[violet timber]

E3 is faster than the jag iirc

[thorny mulch]

Ok

[regal fiber]

I got this from huge container is it good?

[undone gull]

has 600 HP and good armour for a medium tank

[regal fiber]

I think that was the wrong tank

[undone gull]

changed equipment settings to match

[regal fiber]

Its the AC IV not 1

[calm edge]

gun is ok, you have nonexistent armor (unless facing a leopard which has abysmal pen), mobility is meh, more on the sluggish side. A very meh tank

[regal fiber]

Ok

At least i got it for free so i can grind some silver

[proud kayak]

Its ms1 on crack

[thorn hound]

What tank is this?

[plucky summit]

Pretty sure that's custom

[minor nexus]

Between IS-7 line and IS-4 line, which one are better to grind?

Is is7 still have the ammorack issue?

Oh i see, thanks dude

[limber merlin]

Why is IS-4 more worth it tho?

[thorny mulch]

Very good armor profile. It had very good hp before nerf and it’s gun has loads of pen especially on the heat rounds

[limber merlin]

I don't care about the hp but thats a good reason.

[thorny mulch]

Hp was nerfed

[limber merlin]

I know.

[thorny mulch]

Didn’t like the hp nerf but I understand it was necessary for the balance of tier 10

[plucky summit]

It doesn’t have loads of pen especially for HEAT

Only the HEAT has loads of pen

[minor nexus]

So the IS4 gun is still powerful?

[thorny mulch]

Yes 258mm of pen is good enough to get through heavies armor
And the 340 prammo should be very useful in most if not all situations

[minor nexus]

Oh that's good
Grinding for is4 line just now

[thorny mulch]

Great! What tank are you on right now?

[minor nexus]

KV-1S

[minor nexus]

Its gun is freaking good, but the reload time it's pretty decent for heavies

[thorny mulch]

That’s awesome dude

[thorny mulch]

Yeah it’s very long (almost about 20 seconds I think correct me if I’m wrong) but your right 400 alpha at tier 6 is devastating

[minor nexus]

Yeah but with provision and equipment the reload time will decrease, but just a little and still it's a good tank for damage

[thorny mulch]

You will enjoy the IS. It’s a great tank. Pretty decent armor and workable gun. It fits the role of a heavy quite well. Just beware the penetration is lacking when you are up tiered. But it shouldn’t pose that big of a problem

[thorny smelt]

Me who gets the KV-3: 😕

[minor nexus]

Yeah should play it properly to avoid getting rekt😂

[thorny mulch]

Wait until you get the kv-4🤫

[thorny smelt]

I'll be fine

[thorny mulch]

It’s really not that bad. Forgive me I had a brainfreeze and thought you were grinding down the is-7 line. But the kv-3 or the 4 shouldn’t pose you that much of a problem. They are both great tanks and will help prepare you for the “heavy tank role” which will be evident in the st-1 and is-4.

[thorny mulch]

It’s going to be a hard grind but it’ll be worth it in the end

[thorny smelt]

I'm not a big fan of IS but I might give it a try. I'll just need to restore my KV-1S and suffer again

[thorny mulch]

Same I wasn’t very interested in it before I played it too. But try to take advantage of boosters and xp multipliers. The best thing is to not think of the grind

[thorny smelt]

I'll just the unlock the BL-9 gun and then sell the IS and IS-3 LOL

[thorny mulch]

Haha it’s certainly going to help with the st-1 grind. But the st-1 is a great tank. Try to enjoy it (after maxed)

[thorny smelt]

Oh yes. I'm going for the IS-4 anyway despite the nerf.

[thorny mulch]

Ye go for it

[thorny smelt]

It's still a popular tank so I'm getting it. Higher credit coefficient and lower repair cost than IS-7

[carmine olive]

What would be best to grind for medium tanks?

And what would be the best tech tree, altogether? for a starter

[minor nexus]

STB-1 from japan nation

[hot canopy]

ms1 from russia nation

[carmine olive]

Pros and cons of each?

[hot canopy]

stb 1 is shit
ms1 is a merciless sniper #1
it can fly too

[minor nexus]

I dunno maybe high mobility

[carmine olive]

ok

[carmine olive]

Can't ifind ms1

https://old.wotblitz.com/en/encyclopedia/vehicles/ussr/MS-1/

[minor nexus]

Maybe in the future event the tank will come back

[regal fiber]

HOW!?
I need an explanation

I survived the battle btw

[hollow belfry]

E50 M and T-62a lines are quite solid for starting

[regal fiber]

Same

In total that round i had 900+ Blocked damage

[drifting grove]

It's possible that he hit your back plate in arcade aim. At that angle, effective thickness must be over 1 metre. I've bounced hits this way too. They're quite rare.

[regal fiber]

@drifting grove

Same game btw

[drifting grove]

1- Side plate. 2&3 turret side.

[regal fiber]

I must be lucky

[drifting grove]

You're bloody lucky or the idiots shooting at you have awful aim. Or it could be possible that their gun has bad dispersion, but that counts to your luck with the RNG.

[regal fiber]

Probally a mix of both

[drifting grove]

Probably. You've been blessed by the RNGods.

[regal fiber]

I mean this did happen

[drifting grove]

Your free trial of luck has ended, pay the RNGods to renew

[regal fiber]

pays

[drifting grove]

https://tenor.com/view/sakurai-excited-happy-this-isnt-how-you-supposed-to-play-the-game-play-the-game-gif-15161132

[thorny smelt]

As with my KV-3, I use the high DPM gun. LOL

[fluid parrot]

why they extend this STD offer for 2 days? smh...

[solid gate]

KV1S is an old time favourite of mine

[manic carbon]

Misread that

[solid gate]

I hope I'm allowed to discuss vehicle tactics here. I need help with the M V Yoh. I'm absolute trash with it.

I have gone to higher tiers but I spend much time at lower tiers. Credit economy is better and the damage range is narrower (Excluding KV1S and KV2 which aren't TD's but have high alpha). I enjoy the overall better mobility and forgiving nature of armour dynamics compared to higher tiers where 2-3 shells can end your life before you even sit in the round long enough to gain experience

[zealous anchor]

most random much

[real plover]

The message you replied to was from over a year ago lol

[solid gate]

I have a question

Is the Foch 155 good? Im trying to grind for it, but i dont really think its worth the grind

[violet timber]

It’s not good, but it’s not really bad. It’s a little tough to use due to the weird auto loader, but if you can properly abuse the armor it’s quite nice

[solid gate]

Ooooh, i didnt know the Foch has autoloaders

[violet timber]

It’s weird since it as a 20ish second clip reload with a 6-7 second inter clip

[solid gate]

How much damage?

[violet timber]

560 with AP

I think HE is 680, with prammo being 480, though I’m not too sure on those two

[solid gate]

Thats very powerful, 560 AP per round???

[violet timber]

It’s low for a 155mm gun

[solid gate]

But its an autoloader, if you shoot the target twice youll get 1120 dmg

[violet timber]

There are tanks like the E3 which have a better gun imo. The E3 also has a much better armor profile, though it’s mobility isn’t as nice as the Foch’s

[violet timber]

You still have a relatively long inter clip followed by a long clip reload

[solid gate]

Yeah..

[violet timber]

The real downfall of the Foch is the super weak sides that can pretty much be penned at almost any angle

[solid gate]

With HE?

[violet timber]

Most tanks can HE the sides when perpendicular, and some tds with big guns can absolutely wreck the sides with HE

The frontal armor can also be penned with prammo from practically any tank

[solid gate]

Whats prammo? Premium shells?

[violet timber]

Yep, premium ammo

[solid gate]

My sides are gonna get WRECKED with the FV215b

Especially with HESH (Or HEAT, i forgot)

[manic carbon]

You wouldn’t need HEAT for FV215b sides. You likely mean HESH

[violet timber]

HESH is high penetration HE, HEAT is a round that has the highest penetration numbers in game and will rarely bounce

[solid gate]

Oh, ok thanks. Isnt HESH like the best ammo type in the game? Its like a mix between APCR and HE

[violet timber]

It’s situational

[solid gate]

The French TD line is pretty cheap, thats why i wanted to grind it

[violet timber]

The best ammo type is the one that will penetrate and do the most damage in the current situation you are in

[solid gate]

I used to grind for the Vickers Light, i was in Comet and it took 100k xp for the FV301 compared to the AMX AC 48 which is just 70k

[solid gate]

HESH shell, more like SHEEEEESSHHH SHELL

[gloomy rune]

In my opinion, hesh is only good when it does the same amount of damage as the he shell of the same gun. Otherwise it’s trash, take conway fv4004 for example

[waxen anvil]

Yow i need guide for T54E2 when facing VK HT in tier 8 or 1v1 situation im dumb when facing it

[onyx sluice]

I finally got my first tier 10 tank, the E100.

[fast compass]

Hulldown
Shoot weakspots on vk
???
Profit

[lyric copper]

14s clip reload, 7.6s intra

[midnight leaf]

std tank

[waxen anvil]

Face hug or side? Im doomed when face hugging

[bitter flame]

Imagine face hug IS-7

[lyric copper]

side, use your better manoeuvrability to flank VKs, or keep them at range while hulldown and take advantage of their poor accuracy

[wise moth]

If you can help it, always go for the side hug against taller tanks; In a facehug, they can usually take the time to get good aim at a weak spot, but in a sidehug, you have the freedom to rock back and forth, so for them, hitting a shot is near impossible

[modest solar]

Can ya recommend me which line should I go for

[lyric copper]

E50 M, make sure you have free exp tho

[modest solar]

Free exp?

[hollow moth]

E50M is better for begginers, Panther is the best tech tree tier 7 medium, panther 2 is a moving medium concrete block, E50 is pure pain if you don't have free exp and E50M is cool.

You'll want to skip a lot of stock modules when playing E50

[modest solar]

Owh...

So ill stuck in Panther 2 for long to skip E50 stock

Alright2 thanks

[waxen anvil]

Thanks for the info it will be helpful to my t54e2 career

[hollow belfry]

Just make sure to have 100k free exp for the turret + 105mm gun

in the meantime, you can get the credits to buy and equip it too

[modest solar]

That're big numba right there

[hollow belfry]

Wait till the day you grind chinese mediums and find out about the WZ-120

[thorny smelt]

I don't like Panther II's mobility TBH. It is so painful and moves more like of a heavium.

[wise moth]

Yeah… get used to that, because the E-50 isn’t much different (E-50M too, but they buffed the mobility on it this patch)

[wise moth]

At least WZ-120 is somewhat playable stock; E-50 stock is literally a stock pre-buff Tiger II but at tier IX

[thorny smelt]

I feel comfortable playing Tiger II after I get it via Panther. But Panther II? My world is turning upside down.

[hollow belfry]

I’m somewhat skeptical about a stock WZ-120

[solid gate]

Yo how is the fully upgraded e 50

[hollow moth]

Good and solid

[hollow belfry]

Fully upgraded it’s good

[wise moth]

Panther II is more or less a turreted TD; use the decent DPM and accuracy to snipe, and then if you see an opening you can try to exploit it, but just be mindful of your HP

[solid gate]

Oh good was a little worried because i started grinding the e50M line

[hollow belfry]

The Panther II’s mobility isn’t great but still sufficient imo. If not up against T9 the armor is good enough to bully a number of lights/mediums

[thorny smelt]

I was expecting the alpha be like in the 300s like they did with tier 7 Leo (even though it only has 290 alpha for a 105 mm gun but whatever) but nope. At least they should add a 10,5 cm top gun but it might not be historically accurate.

[hollow belfry]

It’s still just a 88mm gun and has the corresponding alpha. I think the tank is fine but if one insists on buffing it, some sleek mobility/dpm buffs would be fine to me.

[wise moth]

Panther II was never even a blueprint, just an idea, so historical accuracy isn’t really question.

But yeah, it just has an 88, although 220 alpha is about par for the course for a tier 8 med (albeit a little below average). If they wanted to buff it, I’d personally keep the buff along what it’s meant to do (I.e snipe), and give it a dispersion buff to 0.3 like the E-50s, and a substantial DPM buff

[toxic fulcrum]

Wish they added the E-90 someday

Used to be called the E-100, but the actual E-100 got a Maus turret, so the latter design with a stronger E-75 turret was renamed to E-90.

[lyric copper]

I see the cheeks are still an issue

[toxic fulcrum]

Nah, it'd be similar to Vk90 turret, with like 290mm at the cheeks, 300+ when Hull down

[hollow moth]

I feel that this take is purely fake

As fake as E50M

[radiant coral]

Model Fan

[toxic fulcrum]

Maybe not purely, but it could be some scrapped E-100 blueprint, where they tried fitting a Tiger II type turret with extra frontal armor, but the idea didn't work out right

[lyric copper]

prammo only pen cringe

[toxic fulcrum]

Like, I'd low-key play this tank if it existed

[radiant coral]

That’s nothing more a E-50 with the hull of a E-100 mate
and some little attachments on it.

[toxic fulcrum]

Maybe the front turret wouldn't be like 300mm, more like 260-270, but it be like spaced armor

[hollow moth]

It looks like what WG made with E50M, the blueprints of E50 were made but in order to make a tier X, WG modified it heavily.

[toxic fulcrum]

Uhhhh, that doesn't look like an E-50 turret, more like an E-75 turret

E-50 has more narrow cheeks

Point is, if they ran out of tanks German tanks, E-90 would be acceptable

[radiant coral]

Clearly it has, but what’s the point then of it.. we already have the Vk 90.01P, Maus, E-100, Vk 72.01K ?

[lyric copper]

also it’s turret and hull would make it better in terms of armour compared to the KPF 70

would rather have the more reliable 460 alpha of the E75 128 than the KPF 152

[toxic fulcrum]

Kpz70 is a mess, compared to how it's supposed to be. It's supposed to have spaced armor, move at 60km/h and have a high fire rate 120mm

They could've balanced it by making it move at 50km/h, have an accurate 120mm with 440 alpha and decent rate of fire, but not too fast, while the armor should be counted as spaced over the front of it

Hope they revamp it to make it... Less of a mess

[lyric copper]

aka make it the ultimate MT killer and therefore not balanced

[radiant coral]

It would be broken then.. and tbh we should be actually happy that at least it’s in Blitz.. compared to Wot Pc

[toxic fulcrum]

I mean... Why not? Meds are already annoying with their overwhelming advantages

[lyric copper]

maybe because they were designed to be multi role tanks

just a thought

also, HP difference is all HTs need, eg E5, 113 and 215B

[radiant coral]

It was the heavy meta.. now it’s time for meds Again

[toxic fulcrum]

Still, I'd love that version of the Kpz70.

[lyric copper]

you ever just out-dpm most of the tier X MTs

pre 8.2 215B gang

[toxic fulcrum]

Which is infuriating, cuz I despise meds and that's why I grinded fast heavies like the Fv215b, Is-7 and Wz113

[lyric copper]

imagine hating MTs

sorta cringe bro

[toxic fulcrum]

Even in the so called "Heavy meta" meds were still easily topping many times

[valid gale]

They really weren’t

[radiant coral]

Would take the IS-4 cuz of the reload..
And plus.. most of the time you just see heavies endless and quite often then lights or meds

[lyric copper]

looks at the notable difference in winrate between my tier X HTs and tier X MTs

hmmmmm

[radiant coral]

Poor E-50M

[toxic fulcrum]

Wtf..? That's some total bull

Every Maus I saw barely had a single braincell, whether it'd be an enemy or ally. They were such easy targets half the time

[lyric copper]

because their job requires one brain cell: just go to red people, and hope team shoot red people and don’t get shot

[toxic fulcrum]

Now the Is-4 is another story, cuz that thing has some stupid troll armor

[valid gale]

So basically saying heavies are better is4 example

[lyric copper]

is that poor marksmanship I hear

[radiant coral]

Yes, sure but now i’ve seen that it’s kinda .. depressing ? lol

[toxic fulcrum]

No, it's cuz sometimes when I aim at a clearly gray area in the tank, it moves like one inch and "That one didn't go through"

[radiant coral]

Not long time ago tho

[radiant coral]

Depends where you aim at it.. side of the hull, which angle and HEAT… then you shouldn’t wonder that you won’t pen it

[toxic fulcrum]

That's why I got the Ho-ri. Solved all my armor issues and buttered through the upper plates of tanks like the E3, Is-4 and etc.

[lyric copper]

aka; “I got the tank because I cannot aim”

[toxic fulcrum]

No, I most of the time shot at it's upper side plate with gold or the lower plate, cuz if it angled any more, the track wheel was an ez pen with standard

[toxic fulcrum]

Well ofc, cuz aiming on mobile sucks half the time. Besides, I don't always play it, only when I'm having a horrid streak of bounces on tanks that I should've penned.

Then I pull it out and make armor irrelevant

[lyric copper]

“sucks on mobile”

excuse me what

may I ask what your career accuracy is

[lyric copper]

84% is good and you are complaining what

[real plover]

Why is that average xp so low tho

[toxic fulcrum]

The 15,82% is all the times my shot went off center and hit a non-pen area.

@real plover as for the avg xp, I didn't always get high amounts of xp in like the first 7k games or so

[real plover]

Ight then

[toxic fulcrum]

Besides, it's a 69, so I ain't complaining

The one thing I would complain about is the 7 kills... Aka, basically impossible, because I either died at 6 or the last kill just gets stolen

[real plover]

Ikr

[toxic fulcrum]

Except for one time when I was about to get a Raseiniai with the ISU-152, but the Is-3 Defender used some type of F***ing black magic when it was at 300hp and bounced every 375mm pen shot ON FLAT SIDES

[lyric copper]

also, the E100 doesn’t even have 260mm on it’s turret front

this tank would almost literally be p2w

@toxic fulcrum spaced armour bruh lol

[real plover]

One time I was playing the ELC Bis and there was a T1 heavy that was about to get a Raseinai’s so I was trying to get it but then the whole ally team started to block me from getting it and instead a different T1 heavy took the kill

[toxic fulcrum]

PC E-100 has 260+, but ok

[toxic fulcrum]

Ever since that petty Is-3 Defender with immortality hacks, I started loading more HE than premium shells in most of my larger caliber guns.

[lyric copper]

in the game where prammo pens more and retains its damage

[real plover]

Makes sense

[toxic fulcrum]

It quite literally refused to die, by blocking shells on completely gray areas

[real plover]

Kinda want to see the replay

[lyric copper]

skill issue

IS-3 sides are partly black holes

[toxic fulcrum]

That's why I started taking more HE to use

[toxic fulcrum]

I'm talking about the Defender Is3, that thing has forcefields integrated

[valid gale]

It does not I’m assuming your a troll

[toxic fulcrum]

It got deleted, so can't show it. Besides it was back before the Sheridan line was added

[lyric copper]

the only notable visual differences between the IS-3D and IS-3 is that the 3D has some spaced armour on its front, and a larger turret

both tanks have spaced on the sides that are known to bounce shells

[toxic fulcrum]

I'm not joking, that Defender refused to die, by absorbing 2 ISU-152 APCR shells directly to the side

[real plover]

Now hold up. You should’ve tried to take a more strategic position by moving to a distance where he wouldn’t be able to spot you. So maybe you coulda tried to shoot his rear end.

[toxic fulcrum]

Although, I gotta admit now that it was partly my dumbass' fault for not using manual aim, backing off and aiming below the immortal spaced armor

[lyric copper]

how does mobile auto aim affect the player

[toxic fulcrum]

Cuz, I was brawling him, we were both full hp and there was no other way of backing off to snipe

[valid gale]

It doesn’t aiming for the sides is an automatic bounce (mispen) you need to always sim in the tracks on the is3 family sides

[real plover]

How far away was he

[toxic fulcrum]

It was back when mobile auto aim acted all weird for some reason.

@real plover and he was right in my face the whole time

[real plover]

Hm. Interesting.

[lyric copper]

apparently this was before atgm removal

don’t remember having any severe auto aim problems back then

[valid gale]

Mobile auto aim never acted “weird” albeit it behaves weirdly at extremely close ranges wg even addressed it and said it wasn’t too severe of an issue

[toxic fulcrum]

I kept bouncing him with my gun mantlet, while he got penned through the front with AP, I ran out of that, was left with APCR (No HE either, cuz I used it on paper tanks), he turned sideways and I was trying to pen him by ramming into his side, but the gun aimed up as the camera went up, making the gun shoot into the spaced armor

[real plover]

Hm. Ok. Note to self, don’t brawl an IS-3D

[toxic fulcrum]

And I had a panic attack/adrenaline rush, so my brain shut off and I didn't think of backing off and aiming properly, so I just did it again

And that's how I flunked a 7k damage Raseiniai in an ISU... To add insult to injury, even as a loss, I only got a 1st class

[real plover]

That just hurts

[toxic fulcrum]

That's when I basically said "Screw APCR" and just loaded more HE instead

[lyric copper]

my first and only raseiniai was at tier 2 with the then M2 Light

at 6 kills I actually though I had just won the game, waited 10s then realised

both proud and disappointed

[real plover]

Besides, you don’t even really need APCR for the ISU because it already has incredibly stupid amounts of pen.

[toxic fulcrum]

I took some for the sole purpose of buttering Mauschens and T95s

[lyric copper]

nah, gotta use it still, annoy the living heck outta emil drivers who think hull down saves them

[toxic fulcrum]

Emils didn't exist back then, that's the thing

[real plover]

me who uses cali and avoids getting hulldowned

[toxic fulcrum]

Ight, now I wanna go play some games in random tanks. Recently bought the STG and 54 Prot bundle, aced both tanks within the first 10 games, 54 Prot was aced on the first game

[lyric copper]

man I love the T 34

you ever just not give one crap about tiger 2s or emils

[real plover]

54 prot I bought shortly after the T-44-100 and discovered that the 54 prot was MUCH better.

[lyric copper]

thus why you do some asking before buying

heck if I had time and money I’d definitely start a “before you buy” wotb series

[real plover]

Thanks for the idea!

[solid gate]

The T34 truly is something else…

[neon fog]

what line should i grind, the Vickers LT or the FV4202???

[plucky summit]

I'd prefer Lowe over T34 :3

[solid gate]

Hey

[wintry orchid]

Vickers is kinda broken and 4202 kinda is the same with less armour I think and worse mobility but hesh. Better Vickers

[thorny mulch]

I bought the t-44-100 on accident but didn’t regret it

[boreal spruce]

Depends, if you want a Leopard 1 with Light tank camo and a bouncy turret get the Vickers.
If you want a bouncy, troll HESH wagon with 210mm or pen then get the fv4202.

👍

[solid gate]

Hey, can this get nerfed? These kinds of people just come up and kill me, even when I have pramo, tier ten and nine is now technically unplayable

[hollow notch]

Consider the following

[solid gate]

Noted

[real plover]

Also consider not 1v1ing a VK

[graceful crescent]

consider playing the obj.268

[plucky summit]

Consider not getting to a facehug with one of the best facehuggets in the game 🤔

[kindred wren]

But hugging is nice 😦

[plucky summit]

Yeah when they’re not actively trying to kill you

[hard cedar]

There is currently a pandemic, please do not hug other people!

[kindred wren]

They don‘t try to kill me, they try to send me back home 😀

[plucky summit]

Truly a tank

[kindred wren]

Looks Russian

[thorny smelt]

The only tech tree medium I know with 105 cm gun is the Leo. Just tell me which others have higher alpha. 220 alpha is quite low for me for its tier (might as well to tier 7 Panther with 160 alpha but this one is special to me X3). The mobility is the nail to the coffin for how freaking slow it is despite I fully upgraded it.

[kindred wren]

In fact, it looks as if the KV-5 and a steam locomotive had a baby

[plucky summit]

T28B’s hull and KV-2’s gun, with KV-2 turret and baby turrets

This is old so this is also poor

[kindred wren]

I‘ll stick with KV-ChooChoo

[wise moth]

220 is low, but most other tier 8 meds are basically the same; like most tier 8 meds have 90mm guns; which have 225 alpha (which is admittedly higher, but not really). The brits have 190 on their 20 pounder guns; and only a few really have over 240. Just the ones armed with the Soviet 100mm guns that do 280; a handful of 122mm armed tier 8 meds at 400, and the Revalorise and TVP VTU which have 350 and 310 on their 105mm guns

[kindred wren]

And then there‘s the Chimera

[hollow notch]

4° of depression off the front
That doesn't work all that well against tanks with good turrets

[plucky summit]

Yeah but there’s still weakspots

[thorny smelt]

I'll just wait when they buff Panther II's speed and gun. It is painful for me to run the tank.

[valid gale]

There’s very little frontally on the Vk 90

[thorny smelt]

I might as well continue the VK 72.01 K line instead of Maus line due to mobility reasons.

[hard cedar]

don't play a german superheavy if you want mobility 🤨

[violet timber]

Play RU251

[wise moth]

@thorny smelt This

[thorny smelt]

Now I have 5 lines to grind. IS-7, IS-4, VK 72.01 K, Foch 155, and perhaps the FV4202. E 50M, Maus, and Jageroo will just sit for now.

@wise moth @hard cedar I'm a heavy main but Maus line is gonna sit for awhile.

[hard cedar]

well the vk 72's mobility is only slightly better so if you're not a fan of the maus I don't think you'll like the 72 either

[thorny smelt]

I have the E 100 as my first tier 10 and I'm fine with the mobility so it might not be as different to VK 72.01 K.

[hard cedar]

tbh all the superheavies have very similar mobility so im not sure why you hate the maus that much but think the e100s mobility is fine
it has a higher top speed but a similar p/w

[thorny smelt]

Perhaps I'm looking at the stock configuration without any boost on the engine. I don't say that I hate the Maus. I still have to think of it if I'm going to prioritize the Maus line or not, or whatever the mood I'm in.

Oh. I also going for Conway. It is HE-able but I'm still going for that mobile tank destroyer.

[hard cedar]

conway has meh mobility

[neon fog]

Whats the best line to grind at the moment

[violet timber]

Probably WZ-113 if I had to guess

[toxic venture]

Yo is KV-4 turret upgrade not good? I haven't played in a long time but I recall something like that existing.

[thorny mulch]

It is good but some people prefer to use the stock turret because of the smaller cupola.

[toxic venture]

Yes, so I should not get it right?