vehicles-discussion

[runic crane]

its just that i already have the tier 9 for bat chat path lmao

[hard cedar]

i mean at that point just get the bc ig

[runic crane]

wtf is the m-vi-yoh

[violet timber]

Lupus is actually very competitive at tier 7, Vulcan is quite possibly the worst tier 7 heavy

[runic crane]

ty, ive never rlly seen vulcan so was jw

[violet timber]

No problem

[hard cedar]

72 not getting nerfed either

[lyric copper]

4005 chad tank

@runic crane the M-VI-Yoh was a prototype/concept tank based on combatting common battlefield issues, and attempting to find solutions to said problems. It has a feature that, if tracked, it is able to move backwards, albeit slowly, it shares this with the M-V-Yoh, the reason for this being in the game is that the H.L. Yoh company planned to install a secondary track inside the main track (on the last 3 roadwheels and drive sprocket), so that if a mine detonated and took off the tracks, the tank could still reverse

[stone garden]

Its u panzer good in not sure

Also what i should get back t34 1774 or 112 glacial

[solid gate]

How much is the IS-5?

[plucky summit]

1500 gold if you got the clan thing

[sacred trail]

Rolls Royce motors go that slow I guess

[thorny smelt]

Well...the name says it all...

[stone garden]

Why i cant get t34 back its 1520000 to get it back and i have 1650000

[kindred wren]

Because it's plus 10% on top

[stone garden]

Soo its 1672000

[kindred wren]

I reckon

[violet timber]

Is it just me or is the Bretagne Panther kinda op?

[runic crane]

dang so if it gets tracked u can still move back?

[sacred trail]

Yep, albeit at 3 km/h, and you can’t turn

[real plover]

Tier 6, stock turret and stock gun max engine and max tracks, yup. seems pretty broken to me

[violet timber]

I don't know if I'm just bullying little orphans, but the gun has a nice reload, good pen, the mobility is in between a med and light, and the armor seems to work pretty well against tier 6s

[rigid thunder]

Probably bullying little orphans

[violet timber]

Probably considering this is the first time I've played tier 6 since the Bretagne Panther came out

[slender cliff]

The tort is god send compared to the at15

[hazy rover]

Anyone know how to use the Nashorn (Trashorn I mean)? It sucks. At least for me. I think most people had this experience, no?

[hard cedar]

Not for me it had a nice gun

[hazy rover]

most of my team is afk...

[hard cedar]

That's not a problem with the tank

[thorny smelt]

Is the 107 mm Zis-24 on KV-4 still relevant?

[plucky summit]

It was relevant?

[thorny smelt]

Is it good?

[slender cliff]

I free xped past the kv-4. Something I don’t regret

[sacred trail]

If you see anything coming with a 152 mm gun, run. If not, you could get wiped off the face of the earth in one derp HE shell. Mostly because you don’t get Spall Liner until the Sturer Emil.

[ornate coral]

Gun is 👌 🥶 , mobility is fine actually, only the armor is...

[thorny smelt]

Tin foil armor

[thorny smelt]

I also hate the ones who rush like suicide tankers

[iron gale]

should i get e4, e3, t57, patton, yoh, grille, 263, bc or tvp?

[violet timber]

Yoh

[midnight holly]

any tips for lupus

[violet timber]

Use the gun depression

[midnight holly]

well that's the problem sadly, i keep getting the flat maps like himmelsdorf

[violet timber]

You can still fine places to hide your lower plate and even go up a bit to angle the tank up slightly

[knotty nebula]

So I I M a tier 3 russian what should I go first the anti tank or the light tank???

[lyric copper]

depends on what you want

[echo umbra]

Learn how to play with that awesome depression, and ull fall in love with Emil and Dmax as well

[violet axle]

If i had to sell 1 tank which one should i sell T34 or Lowe?

Heavy

[lyric copper]

T34 has more pen tho, makes tier 8 heavies cower in fear

[thorny smelt]

KV-5: gonna ram this dude

[lyric copper]

the T34 is still heavy enough to not take lots of damage from a KV-5 ram

[manic carbon]

I wouldn’t recommend selling either premium.
But a Lowe would be more worth keeping as your long term credit maker.
Play the Lowe, make your credits, and you won’t have to sell

[thorny smelt]

Sadly the sides of the hull even when the player tries to sidescrape it is easy to deal damage. The turret is strong but the hull is easy to pen. A hulldown is a must unless it is on the relatively flat map like Dynasty's Pearl.

[solid gate]

True

All the japanese medium tanks (except the STB) need an armour buff. They get taken out way too easily by big derp guns

[hard cedar]

they don't need an armor buff, they're supposed to be paper support tanks
only the sta-1 is in need of any buff

[lyric copper]

^ if you are playing tanks with no armour at the front and getting angry when you get penned all the time, maybe you should start looking at what you are doing wrong

and also what reason to hate the VL?

[kindred wren]

VL?

[solid gate]

@past crane yes fv12b is not powerful i think when goin against it, but not very bad, i did not buy carvarnon becuase it was not reccommended after the recent nerf to it.. but istill might get it... think it be worth the grind?

[past crane]

I think it’s meh. You can do ok in it but I’d rather not play it.

[solid gate]

hm i see thanks, be it better performin than black prince? against tier of same tier and in terms of stats?

[solid gate]

Bro I am in the back most of the time and those pesky T49s just crossmap me

[hard cedar]

take cover when you're spotted

[solid gate]

i hate vickers light a lot too, they look stupid and be very annoyin, i target them first in any group of enemies

[lyric copper]

vickers light

[solid gate]

Yeah they do look stupid, they don’t even have HESH

[west rapids]

I recently got a mastery in it, hilarious laser 105 lol

[hard cedar]

they do have hesh...?

[west rapids]

Idk if it’s hesh or just good he pen in general

[solid gate]

lol

[hard cedar]

I checked it is hesh

[west rapids]

Oh ok

[teal kindle]

is it normal that the second gun of the VK 100.01 P doesnt move back like other guns ?

[solid gate]

Tips for e3?

[calm drum]

Defender mk1 is best med#5893 was banned

Azreal#0538 was banned

[pallid tiger]

Add Tank premium 1000 gold only pls

[calm drum]

Ryu-251 “lofi desu”#4154 was banned

[hard cedar]

is-5 is 1.5k gold

[pallid tiger]

Ouh

[real plover]

Wow four people banned in the time span of two minutes. Dunno why they thought talking about their private parts in this channel and discord was ok

They should’ve taken it to DMs or a different server smh

[pallid tiger]

Me no have 1500 gold i only have 1000 gold

[violet timber]

I wouldn’t talk about the bans. Instead, let’s talk about the VK30.02

[real plover]

Panther but speedy

[pallid tiger]

Me Poor

[violet timber]

Watch ads and you’ll have the gold in 10 days

[real plover]

Makes me realize just how much gold I can get from ads

[violet timber]

18,250 gold per year

[pallid tiger]

If i watch ads developer rich?

[violet timber]

They’re rich either way, ads are just free gold

[real plover]

Dang

[pallid tiger]

I hope developer add tank 1000 gold only

[real plover]

Guess ima spam gold ads every day.

[hard cedar]

they won't unless it's like a tier 5

[violet timber]

Look in the tech tree, there are a few cheap tanks there. You can get coupons for them as well from daily and weekly mission crates

[real plover]

That reminds me. I’m gonna need to download that app gallery thing to get coupons

[pallid tiger]

Nothing is cheap the price is above 2400

Where can I get a coupon

Supply clan?

[manic carbon]

@solid gate Don’t sit in the back sniping with it, it is more assault oriented. You need to be more aggressive in it than you would usually be in other tank destroyers.
However, since it is turretless and has sluggish movement, you need to be mindful about positioning. Stay near teammates, think about whether you have support, or if you are isolated from your team and are at risk of being picked off.

[solid gate]

Thank you.

[lofty cave]

Do you guys recommend the STB 1?

[past crane]

STB is great, but the grind sucks.

[lofty cave]

This gonna be pain I'm still on the chi ri

[solid gate]

Chi ri is the only fun and good tank in the stb line not speaking about the stb

[violet timber]

The Type 61 is pretty good

[solid gate]

Eh, paperish, ur ammo gets damaged a lot, mobility isnt very good considering how paperish it is, the gun is good but I didnt like the tank at all

[violet timber]

It’s a tier 9 med, none of the have any armor, they have good guns, and okay mobility

[gentle wasp]

they all have more armor than the type though

[violet timber]

They’re all still easy to penetrate

[gentle wasp]

tanks like the T-54, 30 1er, and E-50 at least have some. Type 61 is big and fat and full of weakspots, the most you can do when taking fire is to minimize the chances of getting HE spammed

[violet timber]

Alright, that’s true. I still stand by the Type being a good tank though, just not as good as the other tier 9 meds

[gentle wasp]

hard to make a case for it being a good tank if the majority of its peers are better

[violet timber]

Just because it’s worse than other tanks does not make it bad.

[gentle wasp]

"the majority of its peers"
true, this doesn't necessarily make a tank bad, but that's mostly when we are talking about broken tiers and classes, like pretty much all of t7 and 8 because they are so top heavy. however, t9 is relatively balanced nerf waffle so again, if it's a substandard competitor among its peers, in a fairly balanced tier...

[violet timber]

Maybe I just remember the tank being better than it was. I should probably play it again just for the experience of what it’s like now

[elder remnant]

Hay is the FV215B a really good tank.I wanna know since I am working for it also I do not mean the 183 model

[violet timber]

Hahahaha no, it wasn’t before the nerf, it’ll be even worse after the nerf.

[elder remnant]

Hmm I though it was a good tank

It’s not high on damage only doing 400 a Shot but the armor seems to be better then the 183 model.I am just thinking about getting it since I started the Churchill tree when I first started playing in 2015.I have been slacking on that tree though and now I am tempted to get it.I already got the jg.pz e100 X tank which took a while to get and a lot of grinding.But now I am searching for another X tank to work for

[violet timber]

The armor is pretty bad, with it not having any side armor, and the turret being kinda weak in general

[elder remnant]

Ok so what tank model in the X category should I go for then should I continue going for the 183 model instead our is the T110E4 a good choice I am stuck trying to decide what tank to go for next

[violet timber]

E4 might be the best choice since it’s getting a buff

[elder remnant]

Ok

I gotta admit though I love my Jg.Pz E100 it’s proving to be a fun tank

[violet timber]

It’s pretty nice

[spark basin]

e4 would be nearly as strong as the e3 if its cupola got the same 203mm thickness as the e3's cupola

[copper kindle]

best Valkyria Chronicles tank?

[gentle wasp]

Lupus

[violet timber]

1. Lupus
2. Nameless
3. Edelweiss
4. Hafen
5. Vulcan

[midnight holly]

should i grind for e100
ngl the grinding for the gun in tier 10 is kinda keeping me away from it because i usually waste free xp on researching tier 10 tanks

[hard cedar]

don't spend fxp on researching t10 tanks unless you got a lot of it

[solid gate]

Nameless is better than lupus imo better pen better dpm more mobile and decent pen but it does lack alpha

[mighty tinsel]

Is the Super Pershing worse than the Turtle Mk. 1?

[kindred wren]

Worse at what? The two tanks play very differently

[solid gate]

That's like asking if the Maus is worse than the object 140 or the fv4005. Turtle is a premium at 15 with pretty terrible armour but higher damage per shot (lower dpm), Super Pershing is a medium with thick spaced armour all over the front, weak sides (it's a standard pershing side) and a gun with good penetration and accuracy but poor dpm. You can't really compare them but if you like mediums/heavies the Super P is better and if you like pain the Turdle is better

[mighty tinsel]

Ok, if you had the Turtle and the S. Pershing, which would you rather play?

[solid gate]

S P

[thorny smelt]

Just like comparing apples to oranges, not apples to apples

[solid gate]

or appranges to orpples

[hollow notch]

Turtle because that actually has a usable gun

[thorny smelt]

Are the Foch tanks really that speedy?

[hollow notch]

Its somewhere between the fast heavies and mediums

[thorny smelt]

I encountered a Foch before and I'm Foch-ed. I can't pen the tank frontally.

[fast compass]

Foches are one of the fastest tds in their tier at least. Both have 50 top speed and best or second best p/w(not including super speed boost on the 4k5)

Unless you are a lower tier med or light, prammo should be sufficient to pen the front most of the time. You can also shoot the drivewheels if you have a slight angle

[thorny smelt]

I'm going for that line aside from the IS-4 and Obj 263. I paused the The Broomstick of Death for now.

Now I need millions of credits

[lost acorn]

Could someone tell me if m103 is good or not pls?

[exotic falcon]

Guys historically has there ever been a tank that is shaped like a wedge?

[solid gate]

think like 50m, it can do 40km with both fuels and speed equip

[hollow notch]

The m103 is average in every possible way

[violet timber]

Historically there’s the Swedish S tanks or the Strv 103 series

[exotic falcon]

No like a full on wedge where its a wedge at the front and back and sides

[violet timber]

I guess Hetzer would be the closest

[exotic falcon]

Cuz If you think about it wouldn't that armor be affective?

[violet timber]

There’s no point in sloping the back since it reduces internal volume and most likely won’t be shot at

[exotic falcon]

Oh ok but what about the sides?

[alpine notch]

Meanwhile, me reverse sidescraping in IS-5...

😂

[hollow moth]

Here's the tip: if you're going to research it quickly, do go for E100. It's a fun experience to have high alpha and good armor.

Otherwise, just wait.
If 60TP outclasses the E100, go for the polish choice.

[violet timber]

Sides is a balance between angling and internal volume

[exotic falcon]

I renember that one time there was a is7 and it was sideways and I shot it with my 183 but the sides somehow managed to block my shot

[exotic falcon]

Also what is internal volume?

[spark basin]

is series tanks are notorious for having trollish side armor

[violet timber]

The volume inside the tank. The more you have of it, the more space there is for the crew, engine, fuel, ammo, radio, and other equipment

[exotic falcon]

Thanks for the info

[alpine notch]

Troll side armor thats why... even though IS-7 is very prone to ammoracks, it still got spaced armor.

[exotic falcon]

Also this was ap

[alpine notch]

But, ngl i wanna try reverse sidescraping with IS-7 soon after i get it lol

[exotic falcon]

Atleast the is4 has a weakness when sidescraping

[alpine notch]

Shoot between the tracks? Because sides are trollish enough even for 183

[violet timber]

Reverse side scrape is good if you can get into it, but it is a pain to get into and out of due to slow traverse

[alpine notch]

Yeah, man. I have been doing it in IS-5. It was really confusing the enemy and my teammate sometimes lol

[exotic falcon]

Also what is the biggest reason people sidescrape?

[violet timber]

Angling armor, hide lower plate, easy bounce

[alpine notch]

Bait shots? So they can miss

[exotic falcon]

So when the enemy is reloading they can attack?

[violet timber]

Ye

[alpine notch]

It gave some chance to do dmg to them while reloading

[exotic falcon]

Aight imma do it in my 183

[violet timber]

Noooo 183 does not have about armor to side scrape

[exotic falcon]

Plus ill front line too

[alpine notch]

Don't expect anything to bounce btw

[violet timber]

Front lining is ok, side scrapping is not

[exotic falcon]

Aight I just played a game in my 183 and I front lined somehow I did pretty good

[stone garden]

What u guys think about su 152 ? I think its very gud but STOCK you re going to suffer

[hard cedar]

wdym bro the stock gun is basically the top gun

[violet timber]

The stock gun is the top gun, there’s no reason to use any of the other ones

[sacred trail]

Stock gun best gun since that’s your only 152 millimeter gun that you can play with on the SU-152. Playing the 122 millimeter is practically a Stalinium sin, but you should still research them for the 263 line

[hard cedar]

You have to research them anyway for the isu?

[sacred trail]

Yeah, you gotta do that since that will save time when going for the top 152 mm compared to the stock 152 mm

[slim latch]

Pure bias

[woeful tundra]

no nerf maus pls

[fluid carbon]

Stock gun is best on that tank...but if your not that kind of player, then sure use the 122mm but just keep in mind that ur not gonna have the fear factor like the 152mm

[wanton willow]

.

[thorny smelt]

I freakin' love KV-3's 100 mm gun

[pallid tiger]

Give back Mk 1 heavy tank

[solid gate]

The Wz-113 and wz-121 are good tanks?

[solar sorrel]

Good for sidescrape

[hollow belfry]

they are

[solid gate]

Ok thank you

[solar sorrel]

Should I buy e100? Is it a good tank?

[onyx sluice]

Yes.

[solar sorrel]

What about the lower plate?

[onyx sluice]

It's weak, even against T9s so I'll advise you to side scrape.

Angle the turret too, it's quite tough but it can be penned with gold rounds.

[solar sorrel]

Ok thx :)

[onyx sluice]

Hope you enjoy it man.

[solar sorrel]

Surely

[manic carbon]

Well the E-100 lower plate is workable. With angling, it can hold up against lower penetration tanks that aren’t tank destroyers for example

[final adder]

yes, especially the 121, for the most part it's a 430u with slightly less armor but more speed, and aim time. :)

[violet axle]

Whats good for is 3 cali or gun ram?

[final adder]

i run rammer, mainly because you already have good pen for a heavy, and if you load gold most armor becomes butter.

[onyx sluice]

Just saw a 60TP in a match. Looks quite strong honestly, my E75 didn't stand much of a chance.

[ornate coral]

Everytime I see one my brain is like: that gun is HUGE, it's just as long as the whole tank itself. 640 alpha would fit as good as 560 tho

[thorny smelt]

Seems like it is a promising tank

[ornate coral]

Front armor: IS-4, Turret armor: IS-4, Gun: Ho-ri with less pen..., side armor trash, mobility is fine

Calculating result:
New Meta Tank

[onyx sluice]

I agree, it should have 640 alpha too IMHO.

[rigid thunder]

The 560 alpha and a quicker reload does give it lower downtime, compared to other 150+mm HTs at its tier. Instead of making everything 640 alpha, why not have some variety

[sacred trail]

You know what’s weird? The Ho-Ri with a caliber of 149 millimeters has a lower alpha than the Conway’s top gun (139 millimeters)

[ornate coral]

Ho-ri's shells are smaller than the ones from Conway is the only explination I can find

[kindred wren]

Petition to give 750 alpha to the E100 for “balance” reasons

[rigid thunder]

yes please

[sacred trail]

As it is in PC? That’s like saying we up the 183 mm L4 to much higher than Blitz’s 930

[kindred wren]

No, this proposal is entirely unrelated to PC

[onyx sluice]

Because, honestly I would rather have the higher alpha and take longer to reload.

[rigid thunder]

well you've got the E100 for that, congratulations

[past crane]

Personally 560 is fine for the 60TP but I could still see it balanced with a flat 600/520/750

[onyx sluice]

How about giving the E100 750 alpha and the 60TP 600 but with faster reload?

[hollow moth]

I slightly disagree. The classic "KpfPz 70 weird alpha" works fine for 60TP. I might be extremely hyped for 60TP but I'm not a fan of the idea of a weird IS-4 taking E100 place

[solid gate]

anyone knows why m-3-yoh seems to have a better gun then m-v-yoh? its better damage and better reload time lol

[past crane]

I’d still increase the reload time. It won’t be E100 levels of DPM, it’ll still manage the same reload but with 40 less damage.

[hollow moth]

Less 40 damage is... Kinda useless tbh

[past crane]

However it still gets the lower profile, better mobility, and the better turret armor and similar hull armor. It trades the HP and gun from the E100 for a bit more versatility.

But 560 alpha is still fine, just wish it had a bit more HE damage (700 at least)

[drifting vapor]

Add this cannon for Centurion 1 and Centurion Raac

[midnight leaf]

no

[hollow moth]

Well, it you want the truth, these cannons are already in wotb, but heavily modified

The 20-pdr in blitz have the same penetration, but the alpha is 190/160/250. Reload speed went up to 5.56 instead of 7.5, dispersion and aim time were also buffed to 0.316 and 1.82 respectively.

[sacred trail]

You know what we should have for the British line? What about a collection of vehicles that were assigned to Britain’s AVRE ranks?

[hollow moth]

what's the calliber of the thicc avre?

[hollow notch]

@hollow moth
Trollish parts? Are we talking about the 183?
If it peeks with an autobounce side, it spends longer with the turret in the open

[hollow moth]

The bottom image is what I'm talking about

[hollow notch]

Ya, you spend longer exposed because it takes longer to back up and go forward into cover

[hollow moth]

Yep, that's also why I wouldn't go near the frontline in 183

[hollow notch]

A tank not able to make plays is useless as far my views go. Having to sit back does not get any wins

[charred vigil]

frontlining 183 is the hidden key to playing it

who has the time to sit around and camp with 183, nu uh you gotta use your teamates as bait and slap some enemies

[hollow notch]

The 112 2 is amazing because it has a turret located on the extreme front of the tank. It makes it incredibly convenient for putting out damage

[hollow moth]

I would use it as a support. Not too far away to avoid precision problems, but not to near to avoid the turret problems. Let enemies play with my heavies a bit, then I may come to deliver a hit.

[hollow notch]

Or you could just keep slapping people for 900 in a yoh on the frontlines

[hollow moth]

But yoh don't have HESH, literally the only point to play 183 is to use HESH

[hollow notch]

Hahhhhhh

Hesh is pure rng that rarely makes a difference

[hollow moth]

Well, 900 to 1300 is quite of a difference

[hollow notch]

splashes
Hmm yes
1300

[hollow moth]

Are you going to splash all the shells?

[hollow notch]

I am 90% sure the 183 would have better (player) stats of it only had AP

[hollow moth]

It'd be a less toxic tank tho, I kinda like this

[hollow notch]

It would eliminate the people sitting holding their fire waiting for the single ideal shot, and also greatly mitigate rng by the great pen and overmatching

[hollow moth]

Well, for PC players it's very easy and fast to press 1 or 2. No needing to wait for the ideal shot, but if it appears, then 1300 also appears.

[hollow notch]

Yes but why shoot for 930 when a light might show up sometime
I wouldn't want to miss that opportunity
~thought process of a nub

On mobile switching is also basically instant once you get used to it

[hollow moth]

I don't play on mobile, I hate aiming with my fingers, it's as weird as eating soup with a fork

[thorny smelt]

Same. Even the autozoom gives me headaches

[hollow moth]

What you guys think about more tanks from minor nations (when I say minor nations, I'm talking about the variety of vehicles in the armored warfare) enter on the game as premiums/collectors? a lot of nations around there don't have enough vehicles for a line, but have cool concepts, like the Yugoslavian M3A3/Pak 40

[charred vigil]

When ever I land a hesh round it always low rolls, feel like I low roll more than i ever high roll

[sacred trail]

Churchill III and IV AVRE: 290 mm petard spigot mortar
Churchill VII and Centurion Mk. 5 AVRE: 165 mm demolition gun
Centurion Mk. 12 AVRE: 105 mm Royal Ordnance L7
Chieftain AEV: Unknown caliber demolition gun (cancelled early in development due to budget constraints)

[solid gate]

I tried playing the Type 61 in a support role and surprise surprise it still sucks!

[hard cedar]

it doesn't suck it's just some people don't like paper support tanks

[solid gate]

Can WG just replace all the Japanese mediums (except the STB) with actually workable tanks? Heck give the Japanese a Type 74! Why not considering everyone else BUT Japan gets premium tanks…

[gentle wasp]

Kuro noises

[solid gate]

Ah the kuro. Forgot that existed

[gentle wasp]

also the pravda

[solid gate]

Those are all low tiered though. Give Japan the Type 74 or the Type 75…

[hard cedar]

the line is workable except for the sta

[hollow notch]

Has the cheeto been buffed?
Because that used to be the absolute worst of the line

[solid gate]

Support tanks are stupid

[hard cedar]

oh well guess half the tanks in the game are stupid

[hollow notch]

And this is different from the stb how?

[solid gate]

Better gun and mobility

[hollow notch]

Ah yes, balance

[hard cedar]

it's not like the stb 1 is already one of the best t10 meds

[solid gate]

Who cares? Why not make it better?

[solid gate]

So I’m stupid because I think the actually garbage support tanks are bad?

[gentle wasp]

no, you're just foolish for expecting people to take you seriously

[hard cedar]

type isn't even bad though it's got one of the best guns on a t9 med

[solid gate]

So does every other T9 medium

[gentle wasp]

every t9 med has one of the best guns on a t9 med got it

[solid gate]

It is true, Leopard PTA, T54E1, T-54 the list goes on

[gentle wasp]

it's the same gun

[hard cedar]

silly me i thought 201 pen and 245 pen were different things

[violet timber]

I don't see any differences

[gentle wasp]

10 is way better than 5? silly you, this kind man reminded us that rounding exists

[violet timber]

Gotta love the 310.. 350... the whatever alpha gun

[gentle wasp]

1478 or 895, whatever. smells like skill issue if you can't hit shots.

[violet timber]

Don't worry though, they have the same dispersion.

[gentle wasp]

ez pz, just aim

[valid gale]

AFAIK the type 74 still has the same gun and engine just better quality

[strange tinsel]

why tf do they have slowmode on??

[solid gate]

To prevent spam

[hard cedar]

To avoid spam

[gentle wasp]

to prevent the rapid flood of low quality comments such as the op

[solid gate]

Is the STB a support tank too or can it frontline?

[strange tinsel]

ig i see the point now. wdym "as the op"

[gentle wasp]

op = original post

[violet timber]

Also, the STB is the first prototype of the Type 74 giving the Type 74 no reason to be in the game

[charred vigil]

it can frontline

[solid gate]

Good

[solid gate]

T-54 Prototype exists

[violet timber]

It's a tier 8

[valid gale]

It’s also called light weight prototype so

[hard cedar]

But the mod 1 is significantly different than the t54

[charred vigil]

If you were to add type 74 you should also add T-64 tank because T-62 is just the infantry tank version, while T-64 was the actual main battle tank developed, but clearly no you can't add T-64 or Type 74 because both would be completely broken

[violet timber]

The Type 74 would literally be the same tank as the STB-1. It would be no different in any aspect.

[solid gate]

They aren’t the same though

[valid gale]

That is wrong your minds in the right place but t64 was meant to replace the 62 not assist

[violet timber]

What's different about them?

[solid gate]

Type 74 has stronger turret

[charred vigil]

T-64 was clearly a better T-62 but you know the soviets they like to keep older tanks for other uses, so T-64 was the main battle tank when introduced and T-62 was pushed for other things

[solid gate]

T-64 would be nice, we do already have a chieftain MK.6 and a KPZ-70 so why not a T-64?

[charred vigil]

Because it would be broken

[violet timber]

Because it would break the game

[solid gate]

Just nerf it then, we don’t see the KPZ with the supposedly good hull armor

[strange tinsel]

is the chieftian mk6 good?

[gentle wasp]

why not M1 Abrams, just nerf it

[violet timber]

It's pretty good

[charred vigil]

T-64 when introduced could have been considered the best main battle tank for the time.

[violet timber]

It was the best main battle tank of it's time period.

[strange tinsel]

also why do you hate vikkers light?

[solid gate]

Given WG has a KPZ and a Chieftain a XM1 wouldn’t look out of place

[gentle wasp]

k

[charred vigil]

Yes its the first to use composite armor and was incredible with mobility and firepower

[solid gate]

It looks weird

[charred vigil]

See now you are definitely trolling

[violet timber]

Also the only difference I'm finding between the Type 74 and STB is that the 74's turret is a bit longer and slightly remodeled, but basically is the same to the STB

[valid gale]

He’s not wrong but I’ll be honest I rather they don’t touch that thing and bludgeon it’s leg for money

[charred vigil]

Yeah lets have maus a tank made in 1944 fight against more cold war to modern tanks 1970s-2000 that would be great huh

[valid gale]

The turret was extended to remove its auto loader and replace it with a crew member however it doesn’t list which exact prototype these changes took place or the photos

[solid gate]

The Maus shouldn’t exist

[violet timber]

From what I can tell it happened with the STB-3 or third prototype

Also, if we're adding an XM-1, why not go the full mile and add a Leaoard 2 prototype? Or a Challenger prototype?

[charred vigil]

Chieftain wasn't a very good tank mostly because how the british fitted the worst engine ever into it

[solid gate]

they tend to do that a lot

[charred vigil]

They wanted to make the engine be able to use many fuels, but it just ended up being very under powered or something like that

[violet timber]

I can't remember if it was the Chieftain or Chally that the Brits decided to put in an engine that was supposed to run off of basically any fuel but that may be the reason

[charred vigil]

twas the chieftain

[violet timber]

Makes sense

[valid gale]

No the engine was just stupidly fragile it wasn’t redesigned til later on

That was the chief the L60 was meant to be an all fuel burner

[solid gate]

At least it’s not the firefly…

[violet timber]

Firefly was good for one shot then it became basically useless

[charred vigil]

anyways so no Type 74 because that would be stupid

[undone gull]

These engines were designed in the late 1970's and used in late 1978 - 85 modle tanks fleid trails showed some enigines were not proper for battle requirements and thus the turrent and gun were changed

[solid gate]

:( stuck with Type 61

[charred vigil]

yeah but the stb1 is relaly good

[violet timber]

There's always the STB

[solid gate]

At least my suffering in the rest of the meds will be worth it

[violet timber]

The STB is also basically a Type 74

[charred vigil]

Are you saying STB-1 isn't worth it? Because it clearly is

[undone gull]

whats better for Teir 9 STB or IS 8 then IS 4 or 7 for X

[hard cedar]

I'm assuming you mean st i
Imo st i one of the best t9 heavies so is the is4

[violet timber]

STB is a tier X, but if it's between the Type 61 and IS-8, I'd take the IS. Also for results, IS-4 is better, for fun, IS-7 is better

[solid gate]

I just said it is

[undone gull]

thanks - still on Tier 8 in both KV and IS lines

[charred vigil]

Type 74 = STB-1

[thorny smelt]

Only KV-2 has the 152 mm gun in the IS-4 line. sad noises

[spark basin]

su 122 54 is so irritating to play with its awful gun depression and arc, trollish gun handling

sheer dpm is worthless if you get trolled half the time with the gun

[ancient iron]

soo.... did WG buff Tiger II's armor recently or nerf the pen of the Lycan's gun? I swear I could prem pen a Tiger II's lower plate before.... .-.

[frigid quest]

git gud, su-122-54 actually kinda op

[spark basin]

no

[plucky summit]

It's all 160mm now

[frigid quest]

the camo rating is actually broken, its better than the waffle and actually has the best camo in its matchmaking range, armor trolls, and the dpm is beautiful

[spark basin]

my main annoyance with this tank is the gun depression and arc, gun handling sure you can chalk it up to skill issue

[frigid quest]

still a skill issue, git gud

the gun handling isnt really bad lol

[spark basin]

it shouldnt be bad but for whatever reason it likes to troll more often than not

[ancient iron]

ngl that's kinda gross...

[sacred trail]

Still open season for a Conway shot tho

[plucky summit]

:)

[sacred trail]

It’s only really penetrable with AP, HESH doesn’t usually pen it

[bronze latch]

I have a question about the charioteer

What is the best way to get past the stock gun with out the free exp to skip

[gentle wasp]

Grind using game modes, boosters, prem time, x2/3/5, etc

[bronze latch]

Ok thanks

[keen garnet]

Stock gun is good tho, 2800 DPM with gud pen

[half minnow]

Polish Medium tank 34/76 👌

[uneven elbow]

Hello guys! Is there any way to put my crew members from a tank to another?

[violet timber]

No, this is not WoT PC

[uneven elbow]

:// LAright, thanks 🙂

[hollow moth]

Polish pilots and soldiers were all around during WW2, western Europe as Spitfire pilots, spies and Sherman tankers, Eastern Europe and piloting IL-2, T-34, being killed by friendly fire, and even piloting SU-76

[hollow notch]

Thank you

[half minnow]

we fought for freedom you don't even know our history

[hollow moth]

Man I know it, but as a foreigner that only read books about it. Aside from the joke about Russians doing friendly fire, I said only that the poles had soldiers in most of European fronts

[half minnow]

Man I know it, but as a foreigner that only read books about it. Aside from the joke about Russians doing friendly fire, I said only that the poles had soldiers in most of European fronts

[hollow moth]

Is there any problem?

[half minnow]

you're right

[hollow moth]

Alright then

[lyric copper]

wasn’t it Polish code breakers who massively helped crack the Enigma code?

[half minnow]

No

[half minnow]

any problem who are you

[lyric copper]

I am me yes

[half minnow]

xD

[real plover]

I’ve lost 20 brain cells from watching that conversation

[spark basin]

oblivion npc dialog

[lyric copper]

“Stop right there criminal scum!”

[unique wraith]

What happened to the old dead tank models??

[violet timber]

Gone, reduced to atoms

[untold moss]

How can by only just showing @half minnow Polish Medium tank can make those conversation become far from earth and beyond?

[hollow moth]

Idk, did you know that poles also fought with British soldiers in north Africa? And also, the poles also claim to be responsible for Michael Wittman's death. @untold moss

Polish soldiers fought in literally every front of the European theater, from France to USSR

[sacred trail]

Eh, that was a Sherman Firefly. Some chalk it up to Firefly gunner Joe Etkins for killing 3 Tigers, one of which was under Whittman, but there were multiple Fireflies in his company in that battle, which makes it hard to determine who got the kill against Whittman’s Tiger

All we know is that whoever got the kill shot ammo-racked Whittman’s Tiger, and the resulting explosion killed everyone inside

[hollow moth]

And... That's why you never load all the ammo when driving a tank. This rule does not only applies to War Thunder.

[quaint gust]

I just brought the kv-3 and i feel like the better turret isnt round enough. It looks too tall from what I remember seeing on console and pc. Am I just remembering wrong or was the turret model changed for blitz?

(Pc/console model of the kv-3)

(Blitz model)

[solar sorrel]

I think it's little bit different

[quaint gust]

I don’t get why tho

[violet timber]

You could once you got a "wet" ammo rack

[solid gate]

@violet timber sta 1 is trash sry bro

[violet timber]

Oh I know the name is a joke

[solar sorrel]

Because there's only two prototypes, u can search it on internet, different turret design

[hollow moth]

Turret. WOTB version have an egg shaped turret. PC version is more roundy.

I suppose that the PC turret is better tho, it have more angles

[quaint gust]

The pc/console turret is pretty much impenetrable, if you find a hull down spot you can just sit and shoot almost completely uncontested

[thorny smelt]

I get to unlock the 122 mm top gun so that it will be the next gun for KV-4

[quaint gust]

Yee. I’ve noticed that I don’t have to unlock previously unlocked modules

[solid gate]

T110E4 so fun, whacking people who think you are a casemate is fun

[thorny smelt]

I don't use it though. I still go for the high DPM gun.

[copper swan]

Uhh there was the British with about 3 tanks and only 1 is a firefly
The Canadians were on another side without fireflies
There was not much proof or allied air cover or artillery around St. To
So naturally many assumed Ekins destroyed Wittman's tiger 1

[sacred trail]

All I really know is that Etkins was in a Firefly and destroyed 3 Tigers, one of which most likely had Whittman inside

[copper swan]

Yup

[quaint gust]

Duck

[minor mica]

Spaced armor makes he and heat useless right? Or does it reduce the dmg from those shells?

[hard cedar]

spaced armor means he will always splash, if the heat shell has high enough pen it will still go through

[minor mica]

Ah okay

[delicate ledge]

so what are the vk90 scorpion etc boxes comming since new vid was out about it

[onyx sluice]

They are already here, you get them after battles. I've got 2 yet.

[delicate ledge]

i dont get them yet

[regal bough]

there here for asia currently

[manic carbon]

@minor mica You can still penetrate with HEAT, but spaced armour makes it more difficult.
HEAT loses penetration as it travels to the primary armour after it hits the spaced armour

[hollow sequoia]

should i gold the 183 for 8.7k
i have 1.2k rn and theres this cheap 7.5k gold offer
the tortoise is utter pain and i dont have the creds to get vert stabs on it

edit: i rage sold the tort help

[rigid thunder]

absolutely not

[cobalt aspen]

WG Add pls:

Waffentranger Auf E100, legendary tier 10
tank destroyer 👀 (128mm gun)3 shells of 540 damage per shot, or (150mm gun)2 shells of 750 damage per shot, with one of the highest drum reloads in the game and low damage per minute.

1 Gun: (128mm) perfomance:

3 shells 540 damage per shot (AP shell)
2 seconds intra-clip
reload clip: 45 seconds
Damage Per Minute(DPM): 2.160

2 Gun: (150mm) perfomance:

2 shells 750 damage per shot (AP shell)
2 seconds intra-clip
reload clip: 47.35 seconds
Damage Per Minute(DPM): 1.900

Pls WG 🙏🏻🙏🏻 please wg test this legendary tank, with these 2 guns, with all these mentioned Features, guys would love to see a tank with these stats in the game, that's what everyone wants, this kind of performance we want to see 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻pls

[noble geyser]

No

[hollow sequoia]

no

[long violet]

no

[rigid thunder]

no

[thorny smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nodding-nope-nah-no-way-gif-15995669

[past crane]

Seconded

[charred vigil]

We have Fv4005 british waffentrager auf e100, no need for insane german cancer that gives ptsd

[thorny smelt]

The Broomstick of Death and Deathstar are already OP at this point. There's no need to add another one

[onyx sluice]

I wouldn't mind the Waffentrager auf E100 honestly.

[solar sorrel]

Surely

[wheat barn]

KV3? buff since its lack of mobility or buff the armour or change gun?

[charred vigil]

kv3 is gud just angle up and bounce

[thorny smelt]

Install AdGuard and MalwareBytes in your browser

[hollow moth]

1st- Get an adblock. Who doesn't have an adblock today? Helloooo, it's century XXI.
2nd- Angle KV-3 hull and you must be safe. The turret is enough to beat most of the shells you'll see.
3rd- No buffs necessary in an already good and quite balanced heavy. Anyone here wants another T29.

[hollow moth]

Shut. Anyone here wants more possibly broken premiums in T10. T7 is a mess because of too much unbalanced premiums, and none wants a T7 part 2.

[vivid hearth]

Is there a limit to the number of tanks I can restore?

[lyric copper]

you get to restore one for every ticket

but you can submit multiple tickets

[vivid hearth]

So do I need to wait for a ticket to be closed or can I like, “stack” them

As in send multiple at the same time kinda

[hard cedar]

You can stack

[vivid hearth]

Noice

[sacred trail]

Those are PC numbers. In reality if it was in Blitz, we’d have (if the clip size is the same in your suggestion):

128 mm: 460 x 3 = 1,380 per clip
15 cm: 640 x 2 =1,280 per clip

Realistically, assuming that the DPC (damage per clip) is slightly more than one penetrating 183 HESH, the clip reload would be between 25-30 seconds to stay on-par with Blitz’s FV4005 (which has the same 123 mm gun autoloader at 460* x 3)

*Didn’t know whether it was 400 or 460 🤭

[hard cedar]

4005 has 460x3 not 400x3

[sacred trail]

The point is, those numbers seem reasonable enough (from a heavy TD perspective), but considering the hull is that of the thicc E 100 and the turret is a bigger WT auf Pz. IV, there would be serious armor-balancing issues. An 1850 HP pool seems reasonable tho (accounting the heavy’s hull)

The Magazine Reload consumable might work for it tho

[ornate coral]

You need to sidescrap more then

[solid gate]

When the polish tanks will gome

[hearty skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-black-guy-meme-sad-gif-11746329

[past crane]

WG made it all paper in PC. I’d only like the WTAufE100 if it was researchable as an option after the WT auf Pz IV

[sacred trail]

That’s where it was in PC before it was completely replaced by the Grille 15. You can still get it in Console, and it’s a premium on PC Chinese servers

[past crane]

Yea I know. I’m just saying if some nitwit actually convinces WG to add it, I’d want it as a researchable tank and not a P2W premium.

[sacred trail]

OH, I know what they could do with it: maybe have it branch off from the WT auf Pz. IV and Jagdtiger as it’s own thing like they did with Ferdinand

[valid gale]

They won’t do either the tanks fallen way out of WoTs popularity and it’s neither profitable to add it as a prem as of now or a new line and they have their sights on other more relevant tanks as of now

[past crane]

Which is why I’d rather not see it. It can be balanced and work in Blitz, but personally WG should focus on high tier light tank additions next. I’m thinking T-100 LT, Rheinmetall Panzerwagen, WZ 132-1. I’d also like to see the Object 705A and the object 257 and 277.

[sacred trail]

What about 59-16, WZ-131, WZ-132, WZ-132A, and WZ-132-1 in that order? The only Chinese lights we have are premiums and collectors

[haughty forge]

would Rheinmetall Panzerwagen work with vickers around?

[sacred trail]

Since we don’t have a tier 10 German light, I’d say so? Besides, that’s like saying the Vickers Light 105 can’t play side-by-side with the PC Tier X Manticore

[ancient iron]

so far... liking the 7/1

even with 2 losses in 2 games

[past crane]

Yes. I would love all of those.

[sacred trail]

It could work tho. Might break off from the Type T-34 with no problems like they did with the Type 58 and WZ-131GFT

[past crane]

Yep, seeing as the Strv m/42 and M4 Sherman lead to 3 tanks each, it wouldn’t be too far fetched.

[solid gate]

Is FV215b good?

[sacred trail]

The general consensus is not really, which is why I don’t see why they have to nerf it further

[real plover]

They’re preemptively nerfing it because it might slip back into the FV215b meta. So to prevent it from becoming overpowered like it was before heavy tank hp buff they’re nerfing the gun reload. But it’s only like one second, what’s the worse that can happen

Update 8.2 might make the Centurion 7/1 a little bit op. 50 km/h top speed combined with the ability to use HESH gun and encounter tier 8s along with better turret than FV4202, it’s gonna be a nightmare

[sacred trail]

The 215b unicums get around the reload nerf and still manage to carry on a daily basis?

[real plover]

Those are the unicums, not the average Joe you see in a match every now and then

[sacred trail]

It gives them more time to practice bouncing off the semi-finicky armor?

[real plover]

Exactly. It’s like a buff and a nerf at the same time. Trying to bounce shells while you wait a little longer to reload can teach people how to angle or position their tank properly

[sacred trail]

It’s just a nerf, but it presents an extended timeframe to help practice defense in the 215

[real plover]

Bruh I 1v1ed a Skoda T 27 in my TVP VTU and won???

I was completely stock btw

[valid gale]

It is not a buff at all the 215s core strength was having the fastest reloading 120 with its penetration it lacked the health and armor and superior penetration of the IS4 and E5 now its just gonna be a worse choice

[solid gate]

Slt

[pallid tiger]

Huh ?

[plucky summit]

They’re playing with bots, that’s why

I mean actual bots, looked at the damage they’re blocking

[solid gate]

Question: Best looking tank in your opinion?

[keen garnet]

FV215b and Progetto 65

[plucky summit]

P43 Anniv.

[cobalt aspen]

my Panther 8,8 i love tank🤩

[solid gate]

My personal favourites have to be the E5 and FV4202

[hollow moth]

Idk which one is my favorite in therms of aesthetics. Perhaps AMX 13 75, M4/FL10 or Jagdpanzer E100

[hollow sequoia]

kpz and the super conq

[midnight marten]

The SU-100 and the SU-100Y

[thorny smelt]

AMX AC 46 is a bit painful but I managed to played it in a few matches

[lyric copper]

ew 85mm

[solar sorrel]

Finally my E75 got her first mastery badge after a long time :)

[thorny smelt]

When E 75 is a bit better than E 100.....

[haughty forge]

it's for tier for tier

[onyx sluice]

The E100 should have 750 alpha IMO, and maybe an update for the legendary camo.

[thorny smelt]

It should match with Jagdpanzer E 100's reload time

[ornate coral]

It does match (without equipment)

[strange tinsel]

the STB-1 is the best looking

[torpid lagoon]

BTW in Update 8.2 we won't pay for HE and AP Cost on Tiers 1 to 7 anymore?

I got confused during the video

[keen garnet]

Allow me to introduce you to a thing called personal opinion

[west rapids]

Leopard 1

[strange tinsel]

t110e5 also looks nice

[hard cedar]

t-34-3

[torpid lagoon]

did the T-64, T-72, T-80, and T-90 have a mechanism release on the auto-loader if your clothes or body parts got stuck during the Auto-loading sequence?

[low lintel]

I love the tank you hate, probably the T-54, IS-4 and.....E 50 M

[solid gate]

i love loza Sherman and Cromwell b

[hollow notch]

Your opinion is wrong.

/s

[keen garnet]

:(

[hollow notch]

Stb is easily the seggsiest

[keen garnet]

:((

[granite depot]

is7

how to play mediums?

[violet timber]

All of those tanks can be obtained other ways, and you don’t have to pay for that container

The reason people complain about the AE Phase 1 is, as I said, because it’s behind a paywall

[valid gale]

Those are free containers so completely different

[gentle wasp]

“Lowest drop chance”
Idk why people are reading everything except this part

[violet timber]

Because lowest drop chance doesn’t mean anything when the crates are free

[gentle wasp]

Wut

[hearty skiff]

SU-100Y is the has the most drop chance in these

[hollow notch]

3 tanks I have not gotten from those crates: ac1 sentinel, su100y, and Spersh

[gentle wasp]

Super 💩

[hard cedar]

(censored) persh

[hearty skiff]

Su has like 20% drop chance

[ancient iron]

how's the Mutz?

[gentle wasp]

Completely and utterly meh

[real plover]

Mutz is basically indien Pz but with a better credit coe and gun

And mobility

[gentle wasp]

It’s essentially the same gun (if not a bit worse). Has better aim time but worse dispersion values (.18 🤢)

[regal aspen]

Is base of play style or better tank

I was told to go crusader but idk

[past crane]

Depends. The Matildas playstyle lasts only until T7, once you get the Caernarvon it gets much worse imo. I’d go for the Crusader and go thru the medium line.

[hushed cargo]

Crusader if you wanna get the barn (FV4005) churchill if you wanna feel pain and sadness because the churchill Vll is very slow but the BP is good atleast

[plucky summit]

BP is cracked

[past crane]

Yeah it’s nuts. I loved it

[regal aspen]

I went down to many lines n wasted alot of coin

[sacred trail]

They’re right. 3 second reload with 200 max-roll and you got yourself a pew-pew that actually does damage. With reload boosters in fun modes like Uprising and Burning Games, you could be getting shots off in as little as 1 second

[regal aspen]

Do I rebuy the su100

[violet timber]

Go down Crusader, get to the Comet, then switch to the lights

[real plover]

What was that, punk?

[smoky tinsel]

When will this vehicle bug be fixed?

[violet timber]

Just don't shoot when the game tells you you'll hit the wall lmao

[plucky summit]

To be fair though that kind of does limit the BLTZ a lot

[violet timber]

Why play the BLTZ when there's the Hellcat though?

[plucky summit]

The audacity to compare a medium tank to a hellcat

[violet timber]

The Hellcat is just better

[plucky summit]

Yes because Hellcat is a good tier 6, but still, the BLTZ9000 could be more comparable to a VK 30.01 (P)

[violet timber]

True, though I still find that the BLTZ is kinda a meh tank in general, just like a ll tier 6 meds

[plucky summit]

I personally think it holds up, worst department would be accuracy

[violet timber]

I don't play tier 6 a lot so I wouldn't know too much about it

[plucky summit]

It's like a more usable VK 30 P, but I also don't play tier 6

[violet timber]

That makes sense

[plucky summit]

It'll still surprise players with the upper plate
Also 258mm of HEAT pen is cracked for a t6 med

Also also they added the enhanced armor option :D

[violet timber]

I was kinda surprised by the upper plate the first time I saw it which was a few days ago

[past crane]

It’s more like a cracked P.43 bis in terms of armor and mobility.

[plucky summit]

👀

[foggy urchin]

Just a suggestion but i think finland deserves its own premium tank. I mean they fought against the largest army in the world, bruh.

Wargaming should look out for the smol nation I think they deserve at least 2 tonks

People who think im trying to get you banned im sorry

But those who are with finland pls support :)

[plucky summit]

Try not to encourage reposts lol

Also that's just a repost FT

[gentle wasp]

as someone who does play t6 this thing doesn't seem impressive at all

[hollow notch]

But meme pen

[gentle wasp]

.379 is equally meme

[plucky summit]

Might as well be a P43 Anniv

[thorny smelt]

I think it is just me who doesn't like the BLTZ9000

[foggy urchin]

😐 😬 😅

[quaint gust]

This poor game was lost all because no one could pen the vk36H. Not one person even damaged it.

[wheat barn]

should WG buff caernavron bad armour mobility and bad alpha can WG buff it also conqueror turret is weak just buff it like WOT pc

[solar sorrel]

Try too shoot the lower plate (front engine) is weaker than the upper plate, maybe

I just bought e100 and it's under my expectations

[solar sorrel]

Gun depression and lower plate, it's sucks

[thorny smelt]

I'm so excited getting one only to feel underwhelmed

[solar sorrel]

Yes, same too me :(

[thorny smelt]

Sadge. I have high expectations for this tank. I guess I'll go next with Maus, VK 72.01 K or IS-4

[onyx sluice]

Side scrape.

And angle your turret.
The E100 is not a hull down tank.

[sacred trail]

We already got the Vickers F in tier 1

[thorny smelt]

Should I get the 107 mm Zis-24 for my KV-4?

[foggy urchin]

Bruh what is that i mean yall got the ms 1 i could also say you have the t26 🙄

[lyric copper]

if you want a tank that was used by the Finnish, play the Stug

[thorny smelt]

Is it just me who wants the T-150?

[solar sorrel]

Well, the turret can be penetrated with gold ammo

[thorny smelt]

That's the problem with E 100

[foggy urchin]

Yea me too mate

[foggy urchin]

I mean is it flagged as finland, no
Again t 26 is a copy of vickers
Same thing again and again

[onyx sluice]

That's better than what a Maus can claim.

You have 640 alpha, trade shots and you're going to win.

[solar sorrel]

In your opinion, which is better? E100 or Maus?

[hybrid raven]

hello! am an f2p guy around 4k games with 56% win(mostly i play Standard B,Amx 50B,t62a)
i have finally been able to collect 20k gold! am f2p guy so this decision is kinda important to me:
which tank should i buy when it comes in shop
1.Chieftan Mk6
2.Super Conq

pls help

[haughty forge]

i'd say chieftain

it is mobile, good turret armor, cheap hesh and good dpm

[hybrid raven]

thats what i was thinking! but most people say conq so am confused

[vocal plover]

Hello hello is the WZ blaze worth the 3k price tag or should I just wait for something else?

[manic carbon]

They are both good, it is preference. My preference is the Chieftain

The Chieftain Mk6 has a great gun with solid mobility, making it effective to reposition across the map and such. The armour overall isn’t reliable. You need to play it hulldown wherever you can, because the hull is mostly worthless, and you have 10 degrees of gun depression. The turret is better, but has its weakspots that you need to be aware of.

The S.Conq, in my opinion, is more boring to play - but it is a good tank.
Basically, it trades gun and mobility for a more reliable frontal armour profile with the spaced armour. Very good hulldown and the upper plate is great.
But the gun isn’t great (the worst gun out of the three Tier X British heavies), and it has very sluggish movement.

Judging by the tanks you say you mostly play, I’d be willing to say you’d enjoy the more mobile Chieftain. But its up to you to make your own decision

[vocal plover]

So basically you're left with the choice of do you wanna play like a T110E5 but brit or a maus but brit

[hybrid raven]

thanks for such an insight!guess i have made up my mind then! i was thinking for the chieftan! as i like to move around and flank! i asked this question in Facebook and most people said Conq which made me confused! guess i will stick to Mk6 now! ty!

[vocal plover]

Yea plus the Mk. 6 was sold directly like a few months ago?

[hybrid raven]

yea! no worries i can wait! i got tons of patience lol! i am an f2p guy so couldnt get 20k gold back then

[manic carbon]

Yeah it was.

The Chieftain is all about using the mobility to use that great gun it has, so I think you’ll enjoy it.
Chieftain is just an enjoyable tank overall for many players

[vocal plover]

Yea quite disappointing in WG's part honestly, the Vk 90 behind a loot box, why not sell it as it is? The chieftain mk. 6 and the badger are proof that I'm willing to buy it straight up

[hybrid raven]

Cool thanks guys✌️

[vocal plover]

same goes for S conq but I prefer my Mk. 6 over it so I'm not to sad about it behind a massive pay wall

[hybrid raven]

yea being an f2p too you can grind the gold if you have patience! its not that bad

also one more question since am new fairly new to this game! do these tanks have a chance of getting nerfed?

[hot flame]

I can’t think of a premium that has.

[vocal plover]

When it comes to Premiums WG barely touches it once it's out but I'm not sure

[hybrid raven]

isnt mk6 a collectible? and i heard collectible can be nerfed? or am i wrong here?

[vocal plover]

No

[rigid thunder]

no, it's a premium tier 10. And all tanks can be nerfed, premium or not

[vocal plover]

Mk.6 prem S. Conq is collector

[hybrid raven]

oh cool had no idea bout that!!✌️

[vocal plover]

Blitzhangar will tell you which tanks are premium or collectors if you're too lazy like me to boot up WoTB

[hybrid raven]

lol ok

[manic carbon]

@hybrid raven they only nerf paid for tanks as a last resort, and Chieftain is a pretty balanced tank, so I doubt that they would touch it.

Chieftain is a premium, Super Conq is a collector

[hot flame]

☝🏻

[hybrid raven]

alright! gotcha!!! all i have to do now is wait for it come to store then !!😬

[manic carbon]

It’ll be a while probably. It was sold directly in store not too long ago

[thorny smelt]

Should I buy the WZ-111 and Blaze bundle? It looks so tempting Q_Q

[hybrid raven]

doesnt matter will wait!

[manic carbon]

Alright, well happy to help.
@thorny smelt do you mean the Glacial?

[thorny smelt]

Yup. It's WZ-112 Oops

[torpid lagoon]

Should I buy the AMX 50 100?

[thorny smelt]

Just make sure you play it as second-line/support tank. It is not meant to be a frontline heavy.

[torpid lagoon]

I learned from the Emil so I know how to be support

[thorny smelt]

It has a weaker armor than Emil I

[torpid lagoon]

yeah no shit

I wasn't born yesterday to know the AMX 50 has no armor

[thorny smelt]

It is all up to you if you want to go the AMX 50 B line

[onyx sluice]

E100 because of the alpha damage. Maus is good too, especially if you know how to angle it correcly. Just depends on your playstyle which you prefer.

[thorny smelt]

Charioteer is so weird. Everything is a downgrade from Challenger.

[untold moss]

At least it can BESH some tank

[west rapids]

Chari is fun, mainly because you get the same hesh gun on 7/1 iirc but just modified

[thorny smelt]

HESH is only its redeeming feature? I don't think it could make an impact on how I can play the tank.

[valid gale]

Charioteer is literally better in every way?

[west rapids]

The speed booster as well, I dunno if it really needs it since the speed and acceleration is better off without it

[hard cedar]

if it doesn't need it why is it a redeeming feature 🤔

[west rapids]

I just wanted to list it as a feature it has, didn’t want to call it a redeeming feature

[hollow notch]

Charioteer= light tank with an actually useful gun

[west rapids]

It also has spalling

[hearty wren]

not to do with tonks but who else loves the new Harley Davidson

[thorny smelt]

I'll just camp when it is a tank destroyer but I need a solid cover to hide from those HE shells.

Anyways, Krupp-Steyr Waffentrager is something I'm looking forward to with its 2-shell autoloading system that tops at an average damage of 200 per shell so 400 in total.

[real plover]

I just gotta grind credits to get the Maus and FV4202. It’s gonna take a while but it’ll be worth it

[thorny smelt]

60TP has an upgraded alpha from 560 to 600 which is nice and can now compete with E 100

[real plover]

Wait they buffed it’s alpha?

[thorny smelt]

I got this info from Droodle's server so yeah. They buff the alpha and also a 15.8 second reload time. HUZZAH!

[real plover]

Nice we got a proper E-100 competitor

[thorny smelt]

Also, Dreadnought might be the next BP tank. I dunno

[hollow notch]

Just what we needed. More generic heavies to stomp on everything else

[violet timber]

Yup, it is

[thorny smelt]

This info might hype you up ya'll for getting the 60TP line.

[real plover]

Isn’t dreadnought a KV-2 on steroids just like the Smasher

[thorny smelt]

A British tank destroyer based off of Churchill Gun Carriage

[real plover]

Oh

I completely forgot about that. When you said dreadnought it made me think of the cracked KV-2 on Xbox and pc

[thorny smelt]

Nah. It's a battle pass Churchill Gun Carriage

[violet timber]

It's HE shell still sucks

[real plover]

Ah ok. Thanks for clarification

[thorny smelt]

Yeah. The alpha is so small than what E 100 has

These pics are credited to @tacit pecan and the Droodles Blitz community

[tacit pecan]

droodles?
lol nope

[thorny smelt]

I guess I mentioned a different person LOL

[real plover]

He said community btw and dang those premiums are balanced

[tacit pecan]

no u havent. those are mine pics that i gave to blitzpost

[real plover]

I’m interested to see how a less mobile M48 patton with a HE and HEAT shield works in tier 8

[thorny smelt]

Love lots to you bud. I'm excited that 60TP is finally get to compete against E 100 and other new tanks we are discussing here.

[tacit pecan]

thx, but i still dont get where u found Droodle community in it

[hard cedar]

aeson probably posted it

ok nvm i dont think he did

[thorny smelt]

I'm not hyped though with the MS-1 since I'm somehow one of the relatively new ones in Blitz.

@tacit pecan I'm a member in Droodles Blitz server

Wait. Ho-Ri Type 2 is slower than its bigger brother?

[west rapids]

Yeah it’s pretty slow

[thorny smelt]

🤔 🤔 🤔

So the upgraded engine only has 18 degrees of hull turn rate? This is painful

[west rapids]

The gun is the better part

[solar sorrel]

As a E 100 player, I feel disappointed :(

[thorny smelt]

Let's cry together

[solar sorrel]

Yes 😢

[thorny smelt]

I'm not a huge alpha kind of player so a high pen gun is what I really liked as I noticed in my tanks in my garage.

[west rapids]

I am more of dpm

[thorny smelt]

Oh yeah that one too

[solar sorrel]

What tank has the highest dpm in tier 10?

[west rapids]

Should be Leo 1 correct me if I’m wrong

[gentle stag]

263

[thorny smelt]

Probably the Obj 263. The YOLOwagon

[west rapids]

Ah ok

[fossil parcel]

Conqueror t9 rlly need a buff at their turret the hull armor suffer enough against t10 guns but with tht turret it gets worse 😩

Wish WG take consideration in buffing the Conq turret at least make it 200mm thick 152 is just not enough

[thorny smelt]

FV215b (the heavy tank) is nerfed again like what the heck are they doing?

[hard cedar]

so it isn't meta again

[fossil parcel]

Yes thts literally sad they nerf the only gud part in the tnk

[solar sorrel]

I hope they buffed e100 lower plate too, I'm suffering with that weak lower plate

[fossil parcel]

Bruh cnt agree with tht lol

U can bounce shot when peaking corner if u angle it rght but the drive wheel will be the weakspot

[hard cedar]

please be sarcasm 🙏

[thorny smelt]

Me being mostly playing with heavy tanks made me sad about the nerf on tier 10 heavy tanks

[fossil parcel]

Yes i hope too

[solar sorrel]

That's it, every tank has its weakness

[fossil parcel]

Yeah but the thg is on Conqueror at t9 it supposed to be a hulldown tnk and hvg the entire hull as it's weakspot but they decide to not make it the same like Wotpc create their Conq

The gun itself is so good but hvg no armor from top to bottom makes it like u just wanna be a td at the back 🤣

[quaint gust]

Why they nerf the is4 and maus?

[solar sorrel]

I'm just wondering what are fv215b crew doing when reloading, do they making tea for themselves? :v

[thorny smelt]

I dunno. I'm aiming for those two Q_Q

[quaint gust]

Maybe. British tanks are required to have a tea making facility inside.

[fossil parcel]

U should ask wht 263 crew is doing by hvg tht highest dpm at t10 it hav 130mm reload manually for 8 sec while is 7 hav an autoloader yet reload for 11 sec which is quite fast🤣

[solar sorrel]

I wonder how xD

[thorny smelt]

They have 2 loaders. That's why.

[valid gale]

Both are op and over performed for 3-4 updates now maybe even a year

[quaint gust]

Aww damn. I just got the kv4 aswell

[raw tusk]

To everyone complaining about the fv215b nerf

They probably nerfed it because they thought it would become very meta after the nerfs to the other heavies

[solid gate]

Ahh 60TP buff yes…

[trim wyvern]

the object 263 is now officially the most broken tank destroyer in world of tanks blitz YAY

Now that the E3 is getting nerved he Object takes its place in being the most broken

I love this game

[pliant lodge]

If the 60TP gets 600, alpha. Will the He damage be reworked?

[hollow moth]

A KpfPz 70 Alpha would be more interesting, but ok.

[onyx sluice]

How much gun depression does the 60TP have? It seems like a decent hull down tank, since the lower plate is the only frontal weak spot. It might also have "ears" on the turret pennable by gold.

[violet timber]

Looks like 7 degrees

[onyx sluice]

Decent enough I guess.

[ornate coral]

Sides are not good tho

[plucky summit]

The 100mm part is far from the main concern, the turret ring, which is far weaker, won't auto-ricochet shells when 60TP sidescrapes (which puts those 100mm plates to a 73 degree angle, effective to about 335mm vs HEAT)

[ornate coral]

You mean this

[summer tangle]

How do i use the Su152?

[plucky summit]

Yeah 😵

[ornate coral]

Not easy to shoot those if the enemy keeps wiggeling, moving forth and back. I'd prefer aiming for the sides/lower plate then

[midnight leaf]

step 1: load he
step 2: profit

[plucky summit]

Well in a sidescrape, where AP and APCR will auto-rico the sides, the turret ring is a good choice

[summer tangle]

Is the lower plate penetrable with an IS-4 without calibrated?

[plucky summit]

Yeah

[summer tangle]

Lower mantlet here i come

[ornate coral]

Can't shoot those while wiggeling 🙂 - I'd leave my cover to shoot the sides

[summer tangle]

Not wise choice againist a 600 alpha, but i guess its fine

[plucky summit]

Because of their horizontal consistency, wiggling will barely make a difference

Not to mention the lower gun weakspot comes into play if they face you

[summer tangle]

But they are still kind of small, and if it angles only one side can be penetrated

[ornate coral]

Too small weakspots.

[plucky summit]

If they're not sidescraping, go for the LFP, if they are, hit the turret ring

[summer tangle]

Roger that, and the lower mantlet.
Is the cupola big enough for a safe shot?

[plucky summit]

Only in a Grille or Medium xD

[kindred wren]

Who said wiggling is limited to horizontal movement?

[summer tangle]

I mean it can be done vertically if theres a slope behind you

[kindred wren]

Behind you? Usually you use slopes in front of you

[plucky summit]

Well they're downplaying it against an auto-rico 100mm plate that'll block HEAT with tracks anyways

He's literally advising self-destructive gameplay when you find a 60TP sidescraping

[kindred wren]

I don’t understand how this answers my question but 👍

[ornate coral]

I shoot with AP and I literally pen lol

[plucky summit]

I'm just conveying my argument

[ornate coral]

Penned multiple times in exactly this position with an E100

[kindred wren]

Wait, the argument is whether to shoot tracks when you find a sidescraping 60TP?

[plucky summit]

If the 60TP uses Enhanced Armor, the back part of the sides become red

You have a much better chance penetrating the turret ring than the sides

If you want to push and die trying to hit the sides more directly, then be my guest

[plucky summit]

That's a really faulty sidescraping position, of course shoot there when they overangle, but when they actually sidescrape...

[ornate coral]

They are wiggeling. Timing.

[kindred wren]

You can’t really sidescrape well with 100mm of amour

[plucky summit]

100mm of armor at this tiered penetration is automatically penetrable if it's not auto-rico, in this case, HEAT will also struggle since it's mostly covered by the tracks

Shoot the standard weakspot, and sure they can wiggle in the sidescrape, but that won't make the turret ring harder to hit unless they bob back and forth with terrain

Heck, in tier 8 100mm is susceptible to the higher end guns (like Lowe+) when not 70 degrees+

[midnight leaf]

just shoot heat at the diver hatch for all of the polish hts

[plucky summit]

Well if they're sidescraping (correctly) that's not an option for 60TP

[ornate coral]

Why waste money and do less damage

[midnight leaf]

so that it doesn't troll you

[ornate coral]

It doesn't troll you if you can focus on one weakspot and time your shot

[plucky summit]

In the hopes that the enemy chooses to wiggle in a futile manner

[ornate coral]

Wiggle forth and back, then yes

[kindred wren]

Technically, every second you waste aiming while reloaded is a gift to the enemy

[ornate coral]

And every second they waste is a gift for me

[kindred wren]

Yes, and your point is?

[ornate coral]

Idk... what was your point?

[kindred wren]

That waiting for someone to wiggle into the right position is a waste of time when you can pen them somewhere else already

[plucky summit]

Somewhere apparently not worth shooting at 🤔

[ornate coral]

Absolutely. The enemy is hugging a wall, then moving back a bit and hugging the wall again. Repeating this whole process, I decided to shoot the part I just mentioned.

[plucky summit]

If they're just moving forward and back, then if they actually angle from 70-73 degrees, then AP and APCR will never penetrate the 100mm plate, and in tier 10, should rather be shot at the turret ring

[ornate coral]

But I did penetrate! That's the point. It's only 240 mm thick (100mm 70 deg)

[plucky summit]

They overangled, that's your issue

It must have been a round up to 70, but since it's a round up, the real value was lower, which doesn't force a ricochet against AP/APCR

[ornate coral]

60tp stood on exactly this position. I managed to peek and penetrate the sides multiple times.

[plucky summit]

Ok, so they were overangled at the point you fired the shot at, presumably by moving towards their side's area

That is a remotely isolated position where only teammates directly behind can punish your push, but most places they'd sidescrape at are exposed for support

[solid gate]

60TP my beloved, can’t wait to put the E100 in its place

[plucky summit]

I think it'll be a nice low-profile E100, given the weakspots and lower damage gun

[solid gate]

For me it’s just a better E100, with the added bonus of not being German

[plucky summit]

Well to me it seems pretty balanced, toe-to-toe with it

[hollow moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/835194152328232980/877676516509630464/Inkedunknown_LI.jpg
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/835194152328232980/877675769814450226/Screenshot_20210818-190827-1.jpg?width=615&height=473

Hurr durr good heavy have thick hull armor
hurr durr good gun have alpha

It's good on the way it is, as a heavium

[hard cedar]

(i mean the 252u is probably better overall)

[hollow moth]

Yep, luckily I didn't say that in overall IS-3 is better

[plucky summit]

LOL ISU-152 can drill 252U's gun mantlet, so they're not both good for hulldown vs ISU, IS-3 is

[midnight leaf]

have fun trying to hulldown with russian gun depression

[plucky summit]

Though IS-3's turret roof is a problem

F

And here's IS-3, hope the ISU can clip the top of the turret/cupola, because 252U has cupolas that are easy to hit too

[slender cliff]

Is-3 turret roof is surprisingly hard to pen even with a 152mm

Probably made out of Stalinium or something

[plucky summit]

It's because the IS-3 you've shot at is probably using enhanced armor, making it an auto-rico for 152mms

[slender cliff]

Possibly

[plucky summit]

So in that case, Stalinium =)

[slender cliff]

Yes lmao

[frigid quest]

overmatch mechanics only works if the armor plate when angled is pennable

3x overmatch only pens the plate regardless of angle, not effective thickness

[thorny smelt]

Does anyone here going for the YOLOwagon?

[frigid quest]

yolo wagens gun is way worse than is7s rn

[plucky summit]

I meant when EA is used, the 50mm plate becomes 52mm, and boom, >156mm guns can overmatch, no?

[violet timber]

They also have way different roles

[frigid quest]

What I’m trying to say that if a 152mm gun with 300mm of pen hits a 50mm armor plate angled to be 340mm effective, that 152mm shell wouldn’t pen, the 3x overmatch mechanic only comes into play when the shell can pen the armor plate in terms of effective thickness

[thorny smelt]

I'm not in terms with SU-152 so SU-100M1 is the one for me. Probably because I prefer more mobile tank destroyers where I can quickly get into position.

[violet timber]

The point of overmatch is that a big gun would penetrate an armor plate that they wouldn’t be able to meaning that the 50mm plate would be penetrated under any circumstance by a 152mm gun, if overmatch mechanics worked how they should

[plucky summit]

Okay, so technically you can fail to penetrate a plate you've overmatched, but even if that 50mm plate was at a 85 degree angle (let's just assume it's almost that angle, and calculate as such), then AP would say lol that's 80 degrees, and boom, it's ~287mm effective

Now in the armor inspector apparently enhanced armor drains 4% of the shell's pen, because when I click e.armor, it throws ISU's pen down to 275 from 286

Not sure that's how it works in game, but also IS-3's turret roof is 47mm, so interestingly e.armor shouldn't protect it 😤

It's 50mm on Blitzhangar, but that's okay because now for 8.2 it's 47mm due to homogen changes

Two caliber rule may have a say in this, and probably is the reason the three caliber rule is a 100% penetration

I don't know if it's in Blitz or not

I'd test it with a KV-2 and Pz. III but sad news the Pz. III will have 54mm plates

[plucky summit]

Yes, I thought you meant something else

I wouldn't doubt that the three caliber rule would still cause failed penetrations when active

[ancient iron]

y'all.... the T-150 is still ridiculously strong

[thorny smelt]

I'm hoping they'll sell it or do it in event like they did in Galactic Riches event

[hollow moth]

I don't like T-150 tho, it's kinda too imprecise for my taste.

[ancient iron]

I just got 6 kills and a 3v1 in it.... I got damaged.... once... by a box tenk..... and killed him... then I bullied the meds into submission

[thorny smelt]

In WOT PC, you can kill KV-2 with just 3 shots. So T-150 is an in-between of KV-1S and KV-2

[obtuse veldt]

ah yes t150 sad wg remove it

[ancient iron]

can still get it back for like 500 gold or something if you had it before...

[obtuse veldt]

i dont have it cuz in the old days i did not grind that line

[mighty tinsel]

How is the 263 now after 8.2?

[frigid quest]

bad

Play the tank first smh

if you don't have the tank, at least have more experience to have a better judgement

Also, the SU-122-54 is still better than 263, 263s gun is a joke now

[solid gate]

Why KV-2 armour so thin? Only 70mm.
Why Pz. IV Gargoyle gun is 10,5cm and deal so much damage for tier V?
Why Tiger 1 armour is 150mm?

[hollow moth]

Being impartial as someone who don't get affected by the nerf, the only actually good parts about the cannon is the penetration (which gets obsolete when compared to other TDs) and perhaps DPM, (which gets obsolete by its tier 9 version). Otherwise, only the armor + speed factor are actually worth.

The agility seems ok too, it's basically SU-122-44's turn rate.

[thorny smelt]

Pz IV Gargoyle is a Pz IV before the update that removes the 10,5 cm gun it used to have

[obtuse veldt]

its a brawler tank dont stay on the back u kinda have to be in the frontline

[hollow moth]

• Because KV-2 in blitz is all about the gun.
• It stills does less damage than the average 10,5cm gun
• Because WG think it's balanced like this.

WOTB isn't a realistic game.

[thorny smelt]

I had a hard time pen the Obj 263 with my E 75 in a match in Fort Despair. Heck I need to use gold shells to pen the top plate of it.

[solid gate]

Pz. IV Gargoyle now doesn't have the enourmous 10,5cm gun anymore?

[hollow moth]

Gargoyle's gun isn't changed.

[solid gate]

Irl KV-2 thicc armour lol.

[hollow moth]

Read the part where I say "WOTB isn't a realistic game"

[solid gate]

Ye I read that

[mighty tinsel]

And hope people don't shoot on your hull.

[thorny smelt]

Or rained with gold shells

[mighty tinsel]

Can heavies with prammo shoot your upper plates?

[thorny smelt]

I shot Obj 263 with gold shells from my E 75

[thorny smelt]

Still easy to pen with its 75 mm armor. ARL44 can beat the tank's armor like butter

[solid gate]

IN REAL LIFE i said

[gentle wasp]

ARL pens everything
@solid gate Blitz isn't realistic, as several people have already told you

[solid gate]

Yes, I know.

[gentle wasp]

then why do you keep bringing it up

[solid gate]

Nvm lah

[gentle wasp]

...

[thorny smelt]

Oh I love that tank

[gentle wasp]

t8 med gun on a t6 heavy what's not to like

[thorny smelt]

Since AMX M4 45 is buffed a bit, I feel reasonably comfortable playing it

[hollow belfry]

Other people already mentioned WoTb is an arcade game, but the KV-2 irl didn’t have much more armor than the one we have in-game

Besides that, the tank is bad and can stay as it is

[thorny smelt]

The huge turret crippled the engine

[hollow belfry]

Indeed, said turret also being so heavy it was also difficult to traverse on uneven terrain

[hollow moth]

I've heard about a myth saying that KV-2 couldn't shot in the direction of it's sides, like in 90° or 270°. It could fall over to the side if so.

That's just a myth I heard tho.

[thorny smelt]

If that's true then it is a failed engineering

[hollow moth]

It makes sense, a WW2 gun with very large calliber and no muzzle braker... That's really dangerous to the crew members and the ones nearby the tank

[hollow belfry]

well, may it be a myth or not, considering how high the gun is placed, that doesn’t sound impossible to me

[thorny smelt]

It would be fun if KV-2's turret flies off in Blitz

[valid gale]

Partially true and untrue the kv2 was in service for a limited time due to production and technological progression the myth stems from the manufacturing was bad KV family tanks lacked basic parts etc or were just crap the kv2 could not rotate the turret or fire at angles causing it to tip over this was only possible if the tank was on uneven ground/slopes

[hollow moth]

Haha, let's put a giant gun in a very tall area and give it no Muzzle breaker. It's 100% safe and sound.

[valid gale]

You’d be surprised how much weight itself absorbs recoil

[thorny smelt]

That's why it is classified as a Support Heavy Tank in World of Tanks PC

[hollow moth]

You're able to, by any way, show how useful the weight is in this situation?

[thorny smelt]

T-150 is classified as Assault Heavy Tank and KV-1S Versatile Heavy Tank

[hollow moth]

I accept any type of way to show, theorical, experimental, etc

[valid gale]

Take a normal gun for example a light rifle such as an m4 or ak around 5-7 pounds are known for being easy to control and low recoil but they come in different weighs and materials heavier stronger M4s made out of milled metal are said to be more stable than their polymer or plastic counter parts

This was actually a problem with the FAL and the SCAR-H the fal in the past was said to be “too heavy” for its caliber and role while the SCAR-H chambered in the same ammo was criticized for harsher recoil for being too light for its caliber

This is also why you can control LMGs better

[thorny smelt]

Uhmmmm....are we still talking about tanks here?

[valid gale]

More accurately this is why the sheridan was dropped the gun was simply too powerful for its light chassis and systems and kept damaging its own equipment while on the starship or kpz 70 they handled the gun just fine

[hollow moth]

Interesting, so let's put it in a more blitz related thing. Even if Jagdpanzer E100 had no muzzle braker or either a well positioned cannon, it wouldn't have much recoil problems due to the weight?

[valid gale]

At best it’s an artillery piece with the entrenching claws because a gun that big in an enclosed space is asking for ruptured ears

[hollow moth]

Lol, that explains why that shot sound is so... Idk, strident I guess would be the word I'm looking for

Or at least I suppose so

[valid gale]

Also why battle ships don’t make theirselves roll or tilt

[copper swan]

It has a 152mm gun but barrel life about 6 rounds

[plucky summit]

FT AC is more unstable

[copper swan]

Then Sheridan's were given 105s

[valid gale]

They didn’t adopt the 105 the sheridan was basically dropped before any consideration

[copper swan]

You mean KV 2

[plucky summit]

No.

[hollow moth]

But how did Kolobanov crew members did shot the whole ammo rack before everyone dying?

[copper swan]

and yet they were sent to Vietnam

[valid gale]

and then now a days they finally did make an air portable upgradeable tank with a more modern 105 but don’t want to take it for a rear placed turret tank

The sheridan was built in the Vietnam era....

[copper swan]

They did not bring a Sheridan to battle in 1941
Read above before commenting

[plucky summit]

🤨

[hollow moth]

I did read the comment, but not the one that it's replying. Lol.

[copper swan]

Don't confuse kolobanov's situation with the raiseinai situation as well

Kolobanov's crew survived around leningrad
The KV at Raiseinai didn't after 24 hours of engagement

[hollow moth]

Ok, I kinda messed up the names, but I remember that the medal said the KV-2 ran out of ammo before get taken out
Am I wrong?

[copper swan]

That was raiseinai medal， not kolobanov's medal

[hollow moth]

"Ok, I kinda messed up the names..."

[copper swan]

Go read some history as well

[hollow moth]

So that's you're answer? I messed up a name = go read some history?

[copper swan]

Yes, for better accuracy

[hollow moth]

That stills your answer for this question?
"Ok, I kinda messed up the names, but I remember that the medal said the KV-2 ran out of ammo before get taken out
Am I wrong?"

It's like answering I travel by car, but the question is "How did you travel from Russia to USA?"

Ok, by the silence, I suppose I was not wrong after all.

@calm inlet Sorry for interrupting your gameplay, but I guess the "Discord Nitro for Free" guy appeared.

[calm drum]

Zsoltyyx#7933 was banned

[ornate coral]

:|

[modest breach]

if arl v39's secondary gun (at the top of dat snail Tonk) could be an automatic fire gun

[ornate coral]

T-150 was a researchable vehicle

[manic carbon]

It was, but when it was removed from the tech tree it became a collector tank. You can restore it since it is a collector tank currently

[ornate coral]

I researched it. I bought it for Credits, sold it for gold. Now I can get it back again?

[violet timber]

Yes.

[thick trout]

Submit a ticket through that website and you'll have to pay whatever the price you sold it for was

[ornate coral]

epok UE is bacc in my garag 🥶 🥶 👌
and Amx 40 👌 🥶
Forget T150

[ornate coral]

Ik I already restored some premiums with the VRT. It's really epic

[mortal plinth]

Can I ask a question? Is AMX 50 B better than E 50 (med)?

[thorny smelt]

Just like you're comparing to a heavy tank and a medium tank

[midnight leaf]

amx 50b is a higher tier so probably

[mortal plinth]

Nah I'm arguing with this guy that thinks the E 50 is better than the 50 B especially after the new update. And the first thing I say is your comparing a med to a heavy but oh well

[mortal plinth]

You mean the tier 10 E 50

[haughty forge]

why are you comparing ht to mt? on top of that one is autoloader as well

[mortal plinth]

Well...He just keeps on saying 50 B sucks and E 50 is best tank because of new update. Kinda getting on my nerves as stupid as it sounds mm

[ornate coral]

hell yeah 🥶 🥶 👌

[real plover]

Little something called “opinion”. It’s this wonderful thing where people get to speak out what they think of something.

[lofty saddle]

Hi, for the owners of STG, is this tank worth it or is it a turd?

[hard cedar]

no

[fleet rock]

do you like the new legend camo for obj263 ?

do you like the new legendary camo for the obj263 ?

[west rapids]

Yes

Yes

[lean vessel]

Is the fv215b still worth getting?

[wild prairie]

Vk90 needs adjustment.. I mean a vk45 b is close in HP and it’s a tier 9 and not a collector tank. And it’s reload is terrible.. 10-11 seconds. A kampf panzer does more damage per shot.

Gun depression and good armor. But prem shells finds the mark on the turret cheeks.

[haughty forge]

you want to buff vk90?

[wild prairie]

I think lowering reload time/upping rpm

Dpm*

[haughty forge]

i think you are new to game, vk 90 doesnt need buff if it needs anything it is a nerf

[wild prairie]

Ok pro. Vet

[hard cedar]

the turret is stupidly strong on the vk 90

[slow goblet]

Can someone explain this? y Sentinel has big p p

[wild prairie]

I guess I expected it to be better than my Is4.

[hollow notch]

It covers this gun

[violet timber]

They’re water cooled so they need an armor casing so the water lines aren’t hit

[sick nimbus]

IT's a god tank

[slow goblet]

Thanks

[manic carbon]

Not particularly, no

[grand linden]

after the nerfs youre probably better off playing the conq

[errant cloud]

what will happen if mbts evey get added

even though they will never add because they will get sued by gajin

[haughty forge]

lol what? why would they get sued? @errant cloud

[meager prawn]

Is the wz113gft now good or at least solid

[errant cloud]

idk im asumming

[wintry orchid]

Can’t really turn still

[violet timber]

You mean the M48? Or M60? Or Leopard 1? Or T-62A? Or STB-1? Or AMX 30B? Or Chieftain Mk. 6?

[west rapids]

Kampf panzer

[violet timber]

I’m 99% sure I missed another MBT but I’m too lazy to check right now

[haughty forge]

kpfpz

[hybrid bloom]

Can we add this one pls the multi turrent will do like 80 damge max big one 80 as well depending on armor and EVERYONE AN GET IT price is 13000 sliver or in tech tree (russian) and there premium one as well does better dps

Ops 130k sivler

Have good day

[raw tusk]

Yeah I’m pretty shure anything amx 30+ is an mbt

[violet timber]

AMX 50 is a heavy and AMX 40 is a tier 4

[violet timber]

We have the T-28, this is basically the same thing.

[plucky summit]

Yeah but they want a WT-like where all turrets are operated

[violet timber]

Ew no

[real plover]

they cant get sued because the MBTs arent copyrighted by Gaijin. and they cant even be copyrighted anyway considering that no one has access to the blueprints except the military.

[slender cliff]

Water cooled Gatling gun damn

[violet timber]

Nope, it's just a normal machine gun.

[slender cliff]

Oh I’m now disappointed

[plucky summit]

60TP has a strong turret bottom now, but there's still the accommodating ring for it

And a no longer overmatchable turret roof

[slender cliff]

They buffed it’s turret ring and roof armor?

[plucky summit]

Yes, but the ring it sits on is still weak

[slender cliff]

Ah yes it’s still very much there

[sullen abyss]

Let’s talk about that fv4005 reload buff, it didn’t really need it imo but it made the tank so much more brutal

[plucky summit]

Though for an autoloader, it won't do much

[slender cliff]

The lower plate on the 60tp scares me

[plucky summit]

It's about IS-4's size

[slender cliff]

I was driving up a hill in wot pc and I got heshed from the front for about 1800 😅

[plucky summit]

Ok, so the weakness of the LFP scares you?