vehicles-discussion

[real plover]

He has like 418 HEAT pen and my super structure is only 356 lol

[plucky summit]

I meant this

[real plover]

Of course, with calibrated.

I find the Foch 155 to be a very deadly tank on the battlefield. That’s always why I try to keep them alive.

Oh, well in that case, I dunno why he didn’t shoot my lower plate

With any French tank you need to stay alive as long as possible. You become deadlier and deadlier as the game goes on because everyone is gonna be either a one clip or two-shot or one-shot

[hard cedar]

with any tank you need to stay alive as long as possible

[real plover]

Most importantly the Russian and French tanks

And German tanks too. Any super heavy needs to stay alive and speedy tank needs to stay alive. Speedy tanks are crucial to spotting and chasing down rabbits

[frigid quest]

the “maximize pen” is a lie for ap/apcr shells, positive literally got all shots that were botched in two battles and none besides for a desputable shot that cs had like a 50% chance to save would of been saved by cs

[plucky summit]

It still helps penetration

[hard cedar]

it's two battles that's way too small a sample size

[frigid quest]

the shells that were bounced arent

[hard cedar]

?

[frigid quest]

if you want to do the same thing, upload several replays on tanks that you use rammer and track every bounced shots via map inspector. You will be suprised how little cs would’ve saved these shells

nevertheless, as useless as boosting ap/apcr shells is most of the time, vents is even more useless

[hard cedar]

As i said before you can't judge based off of just several replays
Calibrated will always make penetration easier simply because it increases penetration
Sometimes it doesn't matter but other times it will
Eg running Cali on heavies with ap/apcr generally allows you to pen a hori all over the front with standard which you can't do without Cali

[frigid quest]

oh yes, my freaking 260mm of AP pen in my freaking IS-7UNCALIBRATED cannot pen the 250mm superstructure armor

What about range? Firstly, its commen sense that YOU SHOULD PLAY YOUR IS-7 AT CLOSE RANGE!!!!! Secondly, even if you are forced at longer ranges, supercharge is simply better as you don’t shoot yourself on the leg because of you could get a whole second or more on the reload, and supercharge has the bonus to decrease pen loss over distance

[hard cedar]

When did I say anything about range

[frigid quest]

If I didn’t make the counter arguement for range, you would’ve brought it up anyways, but we are going off topic xaxaxaxa

[hard cedar]

ok then back on topic apparently hori is 250mm which is interesting bc i can't go through with 250mm most of the time 🤷‍♂️

[frigid quest]

firstly, its most likely just simply distance or this magical thing called angling. Angling, even cs wouldn’t save your shell anyways, or you can shoot at the side without cs. Distance, supercharge exists

[hard cedar]

I'm talking about head on i never even bother shooting the front if they're angling I'll just shoot the drive wheels instead
But idk guess I'm just bad 🤷

[frank plank]

Heloo

👍👍

[stone garden]

Should i get the t9 gun on kv 4
Or just go for st1 ?

[violet timber]

If you’re okay with the 122mm, there’s no real reason to go for the 107

[stone garden]

I guess im going for 107 mm bc 122 dont have enough pen

[violet timber]

Sounds good

[solid gate]

Emil 1 is nice

[hard cedar]

no it's just the first few battles in a new tank are always downtiered (unless t10)

[calm inlet]

you mean you're top tier in the first few battles of a new tank

its called the honeymoon period

[mighty tinsel]

I wish that happens all the time.

[calm inlet]

it does, at tier 10

[spare solar]

How many rounds this have

[hard cedar]

3

[spare solar]

Felt like more😂

I was in the mk1 defender getting snapped

After i destroyed that person i was at a little over 100 hp

[mighty tinsel]

Should I get it?

I know it's not worth it but I think it looks really cool.

[spare solar]

Up to you

[plain wagon]

Man I’m in love with 4005

[hollow sequoia]

soviet grille

[real plover]

is it normal to bounce a death star ap shell in the obj 263

[plucky summit]

Yes, very normal

[spark basin]

its normal to bounce deathstar shells

[magic zenith]

is the tiger 131 worth it compared to the cosmic pz?

[worthy leaf]

Get PZ.IV S Tiger 131 is stock tiger and have worst armor

[tulip sail]

Its also a tier lower

[real plover]

when they hit my butt

[main wharf]

@stone hill what if we take the coppola off the t95E6 will it make it more usable?

[spark basin]

rng in a nutshell

[mystic drift]

can u guys make Fv4202 HP 1900 base hp

[hard cedar]

it's already getting a speed buff doesn't need another buff

[round ridge]

Where can I check the caliber of a tank in game.Or is there even a way to do it?

[spark basin]

try blitzhangar instead

[plush hinge]

Is this wot blitz app? What app is this

[tepid geyser]

just check the gun stats on a tank, it should say the caliber of the gun for every one

[shrewd copper]

Hello, for the Yoh VI tier X I cannot find the Pride Camo in camo section. Any idea where I can buy it? Thanks

[tepid geyser]

you have to get a good result in game

[round ridge]

@tepid geyser Thank you

[shrewd copper]

Thanks. I thought so. 38 battles, a few badges 2, a wining battle with 5k damages and nothing :0 it sounds a bit weird but maybe it was not good enough

[tepid geyser]

you have to get an ace I think

[shrewd copper]

Ah ok it make sense then

[old forum]

is Kranvagn superheavy?

[plucky summit]

No

[old forum]

thanks, my friend who has just got his Kranvagn, thinks he is "superheavy" just because his tracks are bit thicker than on the IS 4 or IS 7...

[plucky summit]

Lol, the turret armor is phenomenal though

[old forum]

biggers tds can pen him anywhere, and i mean anywhere, he is like Shediran to them

[violet timber]

The only td that can pen a hull down Kran is the Ho-Ri

[old forum]

that aint true, i posses death star and i can penetrate him in his turret with ease

[violet timber]

Not hull down mate

[old forum]

i never bounced Kranvagn with my death star

[violet timber]

That's easy, just don't shoot it while it's hull down lol

[old forum]

yeah

[hollow notch]

._.

[old forum]

BUFF IS 4

[spark basin]

actually trolling

[thorny smelt]

This is weird. Is there any way that IS-3 has an autoloader gun?

[spark basin]

is 3 defender

[thorny smelt]

Where can I get that?

[spark basin]

gonna have to wait until it comes onto the store to buy that unfortunately

[thorny smelt]

I'll just keep on collecting gold and get either this tank or K-91 when it is out again

[old forum]

just got mastery on IS 4...still not a good tank

[rigid thunder]

uh ok

[spark basin]

i recommend the k 91

[thorny smelt]

How about IS-2-II? LOL

[spark basin]

i mean provided it doesnt get nerfed into the ground when it comes in blitz

[rigid thunder]

provided it doesn't come as a crate tank

[hollow sequoia]

lets hope it doesnt

[nocturne tiger]

Any tips on playing the IS-3 and IS-8?

[old forum]

just full YOLO rush everyone and get ammoracked

[nocturne tiger]

Thanks, that was really helpful

[granite juniper]

Play it like a medium

[real plover]

I now have 35 ace tankers. The tank with the most aces is the Panther II. I have three of them on it, but I wonder why it’s so easy to ace 🤔

Anyway, I’m hoping to buy all the defenders in one bundle when they come on sale

My brother already has the T28 Defender and I’m hoping to join him. I’m gonna show him how to properly play it

[hard cedar]

hm

[real plover]

Not as a frontline TD but as support. It has 1.2K clip potential but my brother keeps using it as a heavy tank

I love that McDonald’s anime pfp

[hard cedar]

ty!

[real plover]

You’re welcome! I hate slowmode

[hard cedar]

I also hate slowmode

[real plover]

So from what either meadsy or droodles said, the Defender Mk 1 is basically a better Lorraine. They both have the same clip potential but the defender reloads faster and has fast intra clip and it actually has armor. I don’t see any defenders nowadays. It’s just usually T28 defender or IS-3 defenders. I rarely see Mk. 1s and I never see AMX defenders

[hard cedar]

the defender has a smaller clip potential and has worse mobility

[real plover]

Basically a centurion with a clip. However that’s a small price to pay when you have an autoloader in a tank with a really tough turret

At least I’ll be able to bounce the turret. I think I’ll have a lot of fun in that tank

[hard cedar]

probably it's a pretty good tank

[spare solar]

I still use my mk1 defender

One of my best and most used mediums

[real plover]

The STG I find is a rare tank. Do people not realize just how good it can be? Sure it has 12 second reload but 400 alpha, TD levels of pen, and really good accuracy topped with Stalinium armor and good mobility

[hard cedar]

td levels of pen...?

[real plover]

From what I heard it had TD levels of pen. Aka something like 240-250

[hard cedar]

it has like 180 standard pen

[midnight leaf]

"td" levels of pen

tier 8 tds have 300 pen lol

[spare solar]

What are all the defender type of tanks?

[old forum]

excelant

[real plover]

Premium ammo has TD levels of pen tho

@spare solar the defender tanks are basically reskins of tech tree tanks with autoloaders

[hard cedar]

nah the premium pen on the stg is pretty trash

and the gun handling also 🥴

[spare solar]

The names😂 only other defender i seen was T28

[real plover]

I guess I must be used to playing the KV-2 ;-;

[real plover]

IS-3 defender, defender Mk 1, T28 defender and the AMX defender

[hard cedar]

rip

[spare solar]

Thought there would be more

I want more defenders really i like the mk1

[hard cedar]

the mk1 doesnt really play like any other defender tank

[real plover]

It plays like a slower lorraine with worse clip potential but better clip overall

[spare solar]

Still like it tho despite not being good with other meds im good with the mk1

[real plover]

Good. As long as you enjoy it it’s fine

So I watched a video droodles made about making a tier list for premiums right? He put the T95E2 in the “Waste of money” tier. So guess what I did after I watched that video?

[spare solar]

Idk how yall use it

on my end i go for td and lights

Occasionally heavys depending on how fast or slow they are

[real plover]

I dumped 5K gold onto the T95E2 and got a class 1 in it.

As long as you’re a good player you can make any tank work 😎

[spare solar]

Class 1 means near ace right?

[real plover]

Yea. I wish that match was an ace tho. Someone stole my kill.

[quaint gust]

I have 7.8k gold. I wanna buy the is-6 or löwe. Should i just wait a while or buy it now??

[hard cedar]

don't

[spare solar]

I have a lot of class 1-2

15 on class 3

[manic carbon]

Class 3
Class 2
Class 1
Mastery Ace

Off the top of my head, I believe 1st class is more XP than 95% of players who have played the tank

[hard cedar]

it is indeed

[real plover]

I think it’s funny that I aced the Panther II like three times

So is it worth it to just keep the E 50 and not go for the E 50 M since it’s heavier than the E 50 M

[spare solar]

I get class 1-2 on clip tanks like mk1 or fast shooting tanks like the action x

I have an ace on action x and Excalibur

[real plover]

Excalibur? You mean the super ugly looking TD?

[spare solar]

Nope brb

[manic carbon]

It is worth going for the E 50 M. It’s a nice tank to have, and I personally enjoy it.
Also, to keep in mind that the E 50 M is receiving potential significant buffs in the next update (subject to change, or not happen)

[hard cedar]

no idea why they're buffing it so much

[manic carbon]

Neither, but I guess they want the mediums trying to act like heavies to shine more, rather than heavies trying to act like mediums (E5, FV215b)

[real plover]

Well the reason why I say that is because the E 50 on paper seems like it’s a better ramming machine

[spare solar]

Got the name wrong

[hard cedar]

buff leo aim time 🙏

[real plover]

Excelsior

The Leo 1 already has a laser gun lol aim time is faster than sonic

[hard cedar]

nah the base aim time actually kinda bad

[spare solar]

Am curious if someone else aced it after me

[old forum]

i have 6 aces on that trash can

[hollow notch]

Lol

[spare solar]

This past two weeks?

[hollow notch]

This is the kind of statement that I honestly cannot tell if you are trolling or not

[spare solar]

I feel bad for the people that shot at a paper tank just for it to get bounced from it

While im over here happy for bouncing what was supposed to be my death

[old forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/648984998942343183/872076011158781952/unknown.png just how

[hollow notch]

Yes. What part of that is not godly?

[hard cedar]

that it's worse than 8 tier 10 mediums...?

im not saying the gun is bad, it's a good gun and I like it a lot, but you can't say the aim time is "godly" when it's clearly not

[hollow notch]

...
We are talking about the leo 1, yes?

[hard cedar]

https://blitzhangar.com/en/tank/leopard-1
Check for yourself tell me my screenshot was wrong

as I said before I'm not saying the gun is bad it's godly but the base aim time is not godly

[solid gate]

I shot the side of an e 100 turret with my e 75 and it bounced despite it not being highlighted red, how?

[old forum]

wargaming

[hollow notch]

Its #22 out of all tier 10.

But the dispersion makes it so that it NEVER even gets to a point where you have to sit and actually aim in. The leo1 is basically fully aimed no matter what you are doing with it. Any buff to the aimtime would be 100% meaningless to the leo1

[hard cedar]

cool, but you should be comparing it to other meds

and you're right it is very easy to snapshot with it but it would be nice in the situations where you actually have to aim in like a small hatch or whatever

[hollow notch]

That's my point. The tank is effectively fully aimed before you even stop

[hard cedar]

As I said, in most situations you are correct, but a buff to aiming time would be nice in the situations where you need to aim

Would the gun be fine without an aiming time buff, yes, it would just be nice

[hollow notch]

It would be completely meaningless is what I am saying

Would you be able to notice any difference between the accuracy of a leopard1 and a t62a in a match? No, no you would not.

Any missed shots that occured with the leo 1 are user error

[hard cedar]

And why exactly does the 62a need to have better handling than the leo

[hollow notch]

Oh no, the number is smaller.

Oh. It changes literally nothing.

[hard cedar]

ok but how is that justifying why the 62a and leo can't have the same gun handling

[hollow notch]

Why does it matter that they are different?
It doesn't

[hard cedar]

It doesn't? I interpreted this to mean that if the leo got the buff you wouldn't notice any difference between the 62 and the leo
but maybe I just interpreted it wrong 🤷‍♂️

[solid gate]

hey would it be cool if they could like make some tanks that have a interior with crew like modeled crew

[hollow notch]

The current leo and the current t62 have no difference between them when they come to accuracy. They either miss because of user error or hit.
Meaningless buffs change nothing.

It would be like buffing the mantlet on the centurion 5/1.
Completely pointless

[hard cedar]

it's not like wg cares about whether or not a buff is meaningless, they gave +5 apcr pen to the m48 patton even though that's literally useless 100% of the time

[hollow notch]

Except that isn't meaningless.
That actually has uses. T10 med pen is pathetic and any little bit helps.

Improving perfect accuracy is not helpful.

[hard cedar]

Ok and in what situation does 250 vs 255 pen make a difference?

[fresh skiff]

Hi, which is better for you, Kranvagn or T-62A?

I want to know which one would be better to buy lol

[spark basin]

heavies tend to be better than mediums

[fresh skiff]

Ok thanks

[thorny smelt]

I never knew VK 45.02 A is a good tank to play. At least for me. It is like a cheapo version of Tiger II.

[spark basin]

no clue

[old forum]

brunette

[spark basin]

depends on the person i guess

unfortunately heavies have a bunch of advantages over mediums, so thats why i call them better

[quaint gust]

This new event is so frustrating

[thorny smelt]

What are your thoughts and experiences with VK 45.02 A?

[spark basin]

not bad, did you get the t 62a before the buffs awhile back though

t 62a has become so much easier to play now

[thorny smelt]

I immediately upgraded the turret to get the top gun. I have to play a few more times to see where I'm at. It's a cheapo Tiger II with a weaker hull.

[violet timber]

Worst tier 8 heavy hands down.

It doesn’t matter, the tanks is just bad. An okay gun, zero armor except for troll bounces, and not enough mobility to make it a heavium.

True, and it’s also about how well we can play our respective tank. I wanted to like this tank, I really did, I love tanks that are generally considered bad, but this tank is pretty much a tier 7 heavy role playing as a tier 8

[spare solar]

Not being in the meta is fun sometimes

[violet timber]

I mean, I play STA-1 and VK30.02 for enjoyment

Though with the recent buff, 30.02 is actually a decent tank

[alpine notch]

I just literally tested STA-1 yesterday, it was good.

The CS is literally free real estate, 300+ HEAT pen is ridiculously fun enough (guaranteed hit against angled WZ-120G-FT)

[lime merlin]

Can anyone help me ? Why i can't claim the vk from the event even i got 400 tokens

[violet timber]

It just needs more speed, but it is an enjoyable tank

[violet timber]

You need to get all the rewards around it first.

[lime merlin]

Okay will do :D tyty

[past crane]

I love it. Great support heavy or medium bully, the amount of troll bounces you get is actually funny

[alpine notch]

Even the improved engine equipment didnt help much honestly, not increasing top speed, only p/w ratio :(

[violet timber]

Yeah, it's kinda sad

[violet timber]

THe problem is that there are other tanks better fit to those roles. Want a support heavy? 50 100. Want a med bullier? Get and IS-3 or T32. Want just a better heavy? Get a TIger 2.

[past crane]

That doesn’t mean the VK is bad, it’s still a fun tank.

[gentle wasp]

Fun doesn’t equal good

[violet timber]

I mean, it has only an okay gun, no armor, and not enough mobility to be considered a heavium. What redeeming qualities does it have?

[past crane]

The whole reason people play this game is for fun. If it’s a fun tank, that’s good enough for me even if statistically it is “bad”. Imo the gun is good (actually has second best DPM for a Tier 8 tech tree heavy), armor is good against meds, and it has good enough speed and traverse to support them. I’ve pulled out some amazing games in my VK45, it’s a lot better than people think.

[violet timber]

You want to bully meds? Great, go get an IS-3 or T32 and have more fun doing it better.

[gentle wasp]

I’m not saying the fun factor isn’t important but enjoying playing a tank doesn’t change how good or bad it is. Keep those two factors separate.

[violet timber]

You could also just get a better version of it, also known as the Tiger 2

[past crane]

T32 is sluggish and not as fast, it’s much better at holding the line. IS-3 however is fantastic, I can agree it’s a good medium bully. And as for the Tiger, I liked it but for some reason the VK is just a lot more fun to play, and I have a much more enjoyable time in it. Idk what it is, but I wasn’t a big Tiger II fan. At least the E 75 is awesome.

[hollow notch]

insert superconsumables
T32 go zoom

[violet timber]

T32 only has 3kph less top speed and 1 less p/w

[past crane]

Super consumables getting a nerf soon and honestly the HP and turret make it much better suited fighting heavies. Main problem with T32 is traverse, the VK just has excellent traverse.

Point is, I just like the VK.

[violet timber]

Tiger 2 only has 1 degree per second less, and IS-3 has an even faster traverse of about 2 degrees per second more

[gentle wasp]

If the HP and turret stand up to heavies, why wouldn’t they do just fine beating the snot out of meds

[haughty forge]

None. Because girlfriend is haram 😂

[violet timber]

Besides, T32 also has pretty bad penetration meaning it kinda struggles to penetrate heavies while it butters through meds

[haughty forge]

the turret armor is just cracked on that tank

[violet timber]

Now it also has the hull armor to boot

[past crane]

Every heavy can bully meds, but heavies that are bad at fighting other heavies are better suited to fighting meds. IS-3 and T32 can fight heavies better than a VK, whic is why I push them against other heavies. With the VK, I push it against meds since it doesn’t do well against heavies. That being said it’s still a decent heavy support vehicle, and it has that funny spaced armor bar that gets a lot of troll bounces.

[violet timber]

Just get a 50 100 to do the same role but better

[gentle wasp]

Uh what, the two aren’t mutually exclusive. If your armor works against heavies it’s going to work even better vs meds. The Vk being bad against heavies doesn’t suddenly make it better against meds.

[past crane]

50 100 is more specialized, it’s more of an ambush support vehicle than a medium bully. @gentle wasp The point I’m trying to make is that I’d rather push a VK medium side because it’s no use against other heavies. I could take a T32 or IS-3 against mediums but unlike a VK, the other tanks can also fight heavies a lot better meaning they’re better suited against other heavies than a VK. Sorry, that was a mouthful. I JUST LIKE PLAYING THE VK, who cares if it’s bad statistically, so sorry if I’m sounding rude but I wish you’d all stop acting like I shouldn’t play one.

This game is supposed to be fun and I’m having fun playing the VK 45.02 A.

[gentle wasp]

Right, it's better against heavies and equally good (if not better) against meds. It's a better tank, which is the point I'm trying to make. I'm not gatekeeping what tanks you play and enjoy, I'm just trying to discourage your fun tank = good tank connection.

[alpine notch]

Wait until you get VK 45.02 B, it literally changes everything what you learned from A.

[past crane]

Sorry for lashing out my mindset is that a fun tank I do well in performs better for me than a statistically better vehicle I don’t like playing. @alpine notch yeah, I might just keep the Tier 8 in my garage after I get the next tank, since the playstyle does shift.

[gentle wasp]

no worries, you don't seem like you're lashing out at all. nothing wrong with civil discussion to figure out each other's viewpoints.

[past crane]

Lol ok, that works.

[kindred wren]

A good tank is only good if it is good fun

[gentle wasp]

no

[kindred wren]

Yes

[violet timber]

A good tank is only good if it's good.

[kindred wren]

I that’s too high for me to understand

[past crane]

Lmao

A good tank is only good if you perform well in it.
or
The tank is only as good as the player. If only idiots played the Emil I, it wouldn't be good.

[gentle wasp]

neither. The annihilator is still a stupid broken tank no matter how many 40%ers play it, and the t28 proto is still garbage even if fatness does 7k in it.

[past crane]

There's statistically good, and then there is performance good. It depends if you judge a tank by its statistics, or how it's performing.
Of course one tank that's good for one player could be absolute garbage for another.
"Broken" in my terms is when a tank has too much of the 3 core statistics: armor, mobility, and firepower. The Anni is stupid OP because it has decent mobility plus the super speed boost, a 630 alpha burst gun, and a great turret plus troll hull armor, and 1500 HP to boot.
It's weaknesses aren't as pronounced as something like a Tiger II, which is strong but is not OP because it has
-a cupola
-very thin turret sides
-poor HP for a Tier 8 heavy

Meanwhile an anni has no cupola, the hull is weak but its shape means you can get funny bounces, spaced armor on the side, decent DPM, and good HP.
I need to go now, it was fun talking here.

[haughty forge]

lmao tiger 2 lower plate thicker than upper plate as well as e75 lower plate

[past crane]

I always thought that was funny @haughty forge
for real though i gotta go cy'all

[gentle wasp]

performance good reflects statistically good, it's just distorted by other factors (like the skill level of its players). They aren't completely separate.
Unless you're talking about personal performance which has no effect on whether a tank is good or not. see previous comment.

later man ✌️

[arctic stratus]

Please raise characteristics of IS-7

[gentle wasp]

no

[ebon cove]

Имба нагиб легенда🤭

[arctic stratus]

In english please, i dont understand u

[ebon cove]

Yes, but not now, Google translater give me some error

[arctic stratus]

Are you a russian dude?😁

[haughty forge]

he is saying "op legendary tank"

[ebon cove]

Dude? Що це?

[arctic stratus]

Chyvak

[ebon cove]

Oy, kryto

[arctic stratus]

Lets burn this server to the ground 😎

[ebon cove]

Expert can help you🤭

Slow mod is so bisitь

[arctic stratus]

You havent authority here😆

[ebon cove]

There is any experts

[ebon cove]

Pink moderators, lol, there are not tsvet mocha🥲

[arctic stratus]

Is pink colour better than yellow? I suppose no😆

[violet timber]

Pink is moderators, Yellow is community helpers

[arctic stratus]

In russian discord all the way around

[ebon cove]

Community helpers=ixpirt?

[arctic stratus]

Probably yes

What is your opinion about Ob.263, guys?

[lyric oriole]

bad

No gun traverse angles

meh dpm

no armor

[hard cedar]

it will have armor very soon

[lyric oriole]

well have depends on what they do with it

and armor buffs for anything but heavies are never good

[arctic stratus]

After 8.2 it might become way more better

[hard cedar]

they're buffing the mantlet

[lyric oriole]

literally useless

[ebon cove]

I can do this

[lyric oriole]

all buffing the mantlet does is taking a "sometimes" and making it an "almost never"

now you still have trash sides

track weakspot

no gun angles

meh dpm

[ebon cove]

I think no, accuracy was worse foch155

[hard cedar]

if you facehug trash sides wont be a problem

[arctic stratus]

I agree, from my point of view 263 one of the most awful on 10 lvl

[lyric oriole]

that's assuming you can close the distance without getting tracked and track shots easily pen the hull

[hard cedar]

true!

[ebon cove]

@lyric oriole can you help me?

[lyric oriole]

I can help you if you say what you need help with

[arctic stratus]

😎

[ebon cove]

please tell me about the role community helpers

[lyric oriole]

It's for knowledgeable members of the community that help players often here while also remaining respectful toward others

[arctic stratus]

Sounds great, but can community helpers troll other?😂

[ebon cove]

👍 ist maybe = @експерты on the RU server

[lyric oriole]

probably I can't read anything on that server lol

[ebon cove]

Google translater can halp me, and maybe can help you

[arctic stratus]

Dont you know russian in 21 century man?!

[lyric oriole]

I'm good with spanish and english another language at this age would be a hassle to learn, not impossible but much harder than before

[arctic stratus]

I see you, but russian worth to learn😍

There are the most hilarious man in russian wotb discord, so i ran away from there to estimate adequacy of this server

[spare solar]

How to use the t34

[violet timber]

Big T34 or little T-34?

[spare solar]

Big one and i just found the link to blitz hanger

[violet timber]

Hull down.

[spare solar]

Ah my death aight dust collection time for it

[heady knoll]

We'll be kicked out😂

[spare solar]

Sniping works

[gentle wasp]

please don't snipe in the T34

[hard cedar]

please do not use blitzhangar tactics

[gentle wasp]

thank you blitzhangar very cool
Leo 1 btw

[real plover]

So almost 4K is meh dpm?

[hollow notch]

Its not wrong. It can just burn things down in 1v1s
It's just not gonna have the hp pool to do it again

[gentle wasp]

I mean yea it's cool to farm isolated targets that can't shoot you back but that's not brawling

[hollow notch]

I'm talking about full on brawling

[gentle wasp]

well yea you're going to get bonked

[hollow notch]

._.

[hard cedar]

you can brawl another med maybe once per game but you'll be left on like 100 hp

[spare solar]

Mk1 is nice for it

[real plover]

Face hug a T62A when playing 121B and bam ez claps

[hard cedar]

idk seems like the 62a j can't aim

[valid gale]

121b gets eaten alive in face hugs lol especially against the 62

[spare solar]

Snipe with t34

[plucky summit]

S t o p

[spare solar]

I didn't do it😂

Its gonna collect dust as i look at it in shame about the amount of gold i spent on it

[plucky summit]

It’s a good credit grinder if you don’t have Lowe

[spare solar]

I have the lowe

[plucky summit]

Ok use that instead 😂
Let T34 collect dust

[spare solar]

Aight

Oh before I go i just got the mauschan

100 got sold tho but hey

[solid gate]

can everyone please help me ive been asking for days how in the hell do i play e-75 TS i am getting wrecked by a friend how to play i spent 10 euro's on this piece of trash how do i play this?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[violet timber]

Side scrape.

[real plover]

It would really help if you spoke English and not like a toddler

[solid gate]

get a life and gimme those 10 Euros :>

[real plover]

As soon as defenders go on sale I’m getting them all

[solid gate]

IS-3 Def and T28 Def and...?

[violet timber]

Defender Mk. 1 and AMX Defender

[gentle wasp]

Mk1 D and Amx 13 90 D

[real plover]

There’s technically three more defenders on the list: Y5 ELC, Y5 Firefly and Y5 T-34

But I already have all of those things so

[solid gate]

They aren't really defenders... They lack autoloader.

[real plover]

True, but the ELC fires fast enough to basically be an autoloader and the designs look very similar

Kinda want a AMC AC 48 defender

[violet timber]

Those are Y5's, not defenders.

[real plover]

Yes but they look like defenders.

[spare solar]

Idk what the hell i sold the vk100 is still there

[fast compass]

In lore, they are tanks designed by this russian version of Elon musk based on the defenders. Hence they share some similarities

[spare solar]

I have one of the y5 tanks die fast now it's holding dust

[fast compass]

They are mediocre tanks. Imo get worse the higher tier you go

[haughty forge]

i eat 121b for breakfast everytime i see one

[real plover]

Ok I guess I am the only good 121B player

[gentle wasp]

modest too

[spare solar]

I got this one

[violet timber]

I mean, I'm good at it as well. I also know that you can't face hug a T62A in it

[real plover]

Can or can’t?

[violet timber]

I meant can't, whoops

[spare solar]

E75 is a nice tank to use even the TS

[violet timber]

E75 best tier 9 heavy

[thorn hound]

I love brawling in T49 by shooting medium tanks in the rear and running away

[spare solar]

@thorn hound ah and i enjoy killing your kind with my smasher☕

I tunnel yall with malicious intent

[real plover]

K then that T62 must’ve been insanely dumb

[violet timber]

Well, the 62 is lower profile and has more gd

[native pelican]

Looks really cool but is it good 🤔

[native pelican]

I enjoy circling your kind in my light and light-med tanks :)

[spare solar]

@native pelican fair enough ☕ just dont let us catch ya slipping or your health will turn to dust like thanos

Lets all agree on one thing tho....

Anni and scavenger users should be killed on sight

[real plover]

Haven’t seen a scavenger in forever

[toxic venture]

Which gun for Wt auf pz iv 👀

[gentle wasp]

Big gun

[toxic venture]

👍

[meager kestrel]

Hello

Who thinks they should add the M1 Abrams

[spare solar]

I did three times and each time it was one tier higher than me 😅

[real plover]

I guess preferential matchmaking then

[spare solar]

One tank i rarely see is the lupus

[hard cedar]

nah scavenger doesn't have pref mm

[mighty tinsel]

Ok guys.

What can I expect from an AMX AC 48, Foch, and Foch 155 when grinding them?

Detailed responses will be appreciated.

[heavy pond]

I was thinking amx 30b could get a slight dpm buff? Honestly I think the tank is fine the way it is but comparing it with the stb and the leo 1 its irrelevant. I guess the speed comes in handy but overall I think a small dpm buff would be good.

[violet timber]

Decent frontal armor till the enemy presses 2. No side or rear armor. Actually some pretty nice guns, with nice alpha at tier 10 and good dpm over all. Mobility is pretty nice, though not too fast. The Achilles heel is the side armor, which can pretty much be penetrated as soon as you angle.

[spare solar]

@hard cedar each time i went against it

It felt like a punishment because the tanks i fought it with didn't have premium ammo

[hard cedar]

what tank

[stone garden]

33 k xp and st 1 soviet is mine 😁

[quasi juniper]

Can it drown?

[plucky summit]

Yes™

[quasi juniper]

Wtf that doesn’t make any sense. In the advertisements they clearly show it underwater. In the profile background it’s underwater. What is this blasphemy?

[plucky summit]

😳

Have you seen every tank they present in their YT video's dominating the field and one-shotting tanks without taking damage?

You really trust that?

[spare solar]

@hard cedar any really all three encounters was random

Only thing that was in common it was a tier higher

Question how far back replays go

I could check but i wanna be lazy right now

[hard cedar]

what

[toxic venture]

I've asked this before but I want more opinions: what is the best gun for Wt auf iv pz, and is there an easier name to use

[west rapids]

The l/63 I think it’s called. It is the last gun below the grille

[toxic venture]

Damage?

[hard cedar]

the 640 alpha gun with 255 pen

[toxic venture]

👍

[hollow notch]

Anyone claiming the 128 is better is an idiot or a troll

[toxic venture]

👀

👃
👄

[west rapids]

You forgot the nose

[toxic venture]

I might get punished for chaining too many emotes for fun

[violet timber]

Just call it the waffle tractor

[toxic venture]

Ok thanks everyone, bye

[hard cedar]

*waffle

[gentle wasp]

WT when typing, waffle when speaking

[solid gate]

What if they like it just because

[gentle wasp]

liking it doesn't make it better

[untold socket]

aiming for the I-3 lineup?

[hollow notch]

I like the kv5. That doesn't make it good

[spare solar]

Forgot about the kv5 i sold mine😂

Do want it back tho

[thorny smelt]

I give some love to the tanks that seemed bad to others and get good with it. I would still give you some updates if it suits me because I like some speed on my heavy tanks.

[plucky summit]

I do it a lot, especially in the whole "T-2020 is useless" bash. I played and loved the T-2020 for what it could do

And then I still play Lowe despite the powercreep people see around it

[past crane]

T-2020 used to be useless before the armor buff.

[plucky summit]

No, it wasn't

People loved to take their 252U and use it as an argument to call T-2020 useless but that's simply out-classing T-2020, not making it useless

It could still perform in battle as pretty standard to Russian heavies

[native pelican]

Well if I do decide to get it I will let you know lol

[thorny smelt]

Like I said with VK 45.02 A, it is a cheapo version of Tiger II. Well the repairs are cheaper and credit boost is a smidge of a percent higher than VK 100.01 P. It is speedy which is nice but the armor is the least of my concerns, for now.

[hollow notch]

The 2020 used to be trash. That is a fact. Whether or not you like a tank does not change if it is trash or not. Now it is average. Whether or not you like it, it is average.

[thorny smelt]

It might be scary for you when a tank with soooo low gun depression hits your hull directly from above.

[past crane]

It was "trash" because it cost so much and people didn't like that.

[valid gale]

No it was “trash” because people paid full price for the thing even though the original purpose behind premiums was purposely making them worse than tech tree tanks but because the player base is what it is wargaming decided to “nub” proof it

[hollow notch]

It was trash because it was inferior even to the 111

[plucky summit]

To be fair T-2020 did have a slightly, but still better gun, about the same accuracy, another degree of GD, and some more speed than WZ-111 pre-buff

[hollow notch]

At the cost of 0 armor

[spare solar]

Do yall have the link where i can get sold tanks back?

And the cost

Wanna get my kv5 back

[plucky summit]

Look, T-2020 was face to face with WZ-111 pre-buff, but that doesn't make it useless at all

I played it when it first came out and it wasn't hard to make use of

Especially when you realize there's more to tier 8 than heavies

[valid gale]

Tfw tier 8 is nothing but heavy meta

[plucky summit]

Yes, and being inferior to heavies (though not all of them for T-2020 PB), doesn't make it useless, because it'll still serve more than other tank types

[valid gale]

Still doesn’t mean it’s not average I honestly don’t care if it’s fine for you that’s ok I just like calling it average like it is

[thorny smelt]

Go to WarGaming's support site

[spare solar]

Just found it

[plucky summit]

I'm happy if it was considered never useless >:(

[valid gale]

Also there should be restoration links in the general channel

[plucky summit]

If a tank is outclassed a bit by another, it doesn't instantly make it useless, especially if the superior tank it was compared to is one of the best in the tier

[spare solar]

Done

[hard cedar]

well yes, but actually no
a tank is kinda irrelevant if another tank can do everything a tank can do but better

[plucky summit]

Irrelevant, I'll accept, but not useless

[west rapids]

What makes the obj 263 irrelevant

[plucky summit]

Nothing, 263 basically has its own playstyle

[violet timber]

Finally grinding T-34-2 and hawt damm, this thing is amazing

[hard cedar]

yes indeed

[solid gate]

I just got the E 50M, and I gotta ask, the buff in 8.2 reduced two of its weaknesses, DPM and slow acceleration significantly, is this too much?

[violet timber]

Ummm E50M isn't really that slow to accelerate and it has a pretty nice reload, though I suggest cali for the pen. You also have armor to make up for the relatively slow reload

[plucky summit]

It's a minimal buff in DPM, and the p/w gain is also hit with traverse reduction

[last tartan]

I'm currently at the Vk.30.02 P, planning to go to tier 10, Vk.72 K or Maus?

[violet timber]

Maus.

[sacred trail]

Maus. It’s the easiest one to play of the three it branches to, since Ferdinand has flat armor and less mobility (and is a back door for the Jageroo if Jagdpanther isn’t your thing) and VK 72.01 K has all its armor in the front, leaving the sides and back vulnerable. Maus generally has more armor and is more forgiving with angling and HP despite having a lower alpha

[violet timber]

460 is still a pretty meaty chunk of hp

[sacred trail]

Well… 460 vs 640 when compared to the 15 cm gun on the 72.01 K and the E 100

[covert horizon]

should i get the bobject.263 i'm close

[sacred trail]

If that’s what you’re aiming for, go for it. Just make sure you push credits simultaneously so you can afford the high price tag

[covert horizon]

yeah i'm broke

[sacred trail]

Try playing with premiums that you’re good at playing

[covert horizon]

i'll just do it with gold or mostly grinding with tanks i like

time to abuse credit boosters

[violet timber]

Ohhh yeah, make sure to get into burning games as well

[tired trail]

ok

[onyx sluice]

I have a choice between getting the Maus and E100.
Can the Maus cheeks be penned with regular AP?

[violet timber]

Only with TD rounds

[spark basin]

calibrated shell heavies can go through with standard

[charred dragon]

should i go for is7 or is4

[static harness]

Is4

[charred dragon]

thanks for the tip

[onyx sluice]

And will E100s turret will be penned by cali?

[spark basin]

questionable at best actually, theres a small flat 250mm plate that can be penetrated though

[onyx sluice]

Aye thanks. Which would you suggest will be easier to angle for a new player? It will be my first T10.

[spark basin]

as in between the two tanks?

maus is definitely easier to angle as its weakspots are smaller

[bold cape]

If e100 have the maus turret

[thorny smelt]

I feel comfortable playing with SU-100M1 Q_Q

[undone glade]

Ah shit, here we go again.....

[thorny smelt]

It's either the tank is scary or the no. 1 to get bullied by other tanks.

[haughty forge]

smasher never gets bullied

[valid gale]

Gotta love how they rub in “if you get hit that’s on you”

[spark basin]

there is no inbetween

[long mulch]

you're wrong smasher can get bullied by E25

[valid gale]

E25 is not at all good at bullying it

[keen garnet]

In that one situation where it's facehugging it with no other enemies and you are on flat terrain
Other times no

[long mulch]

well yeah but still though

[keen garnet]

nope

[hard niche]

Well dang smashers gonna be everywhere now lol

[spare solar]

I already have that tho from the three crate deal😂

Im not gambling with them anymore i had bought 18 crates yesterday and not one gave me a new tank

Smashers can be killed easily tho either send the lights,fast meds,gang up with tunnel vision,or bounce the shell and shoot it with malicious intent

Reason why i say that because how it happens to me

Plus shoot the side or back of the turret for the ammo rack kill

I dont understand how some people believe the smasher is over powered theres new tanks and tier 8😂

Its just an upgraded kv2

Accuracy on it love the tracks since 50% of my shells say no and hit them instead in my view

[thorny smelt]

And Panther

[long mulch]

how many smasher certificate that i need to get the smasher

[lean stratus]

I think 25

[haughty forge]

Smasher skill issue

[spare solar]

Their faster than the turret turn

Besides that i will admit its fun ripping tier6 apart

[hard niche]

I don’t feel it’s OP at all either most of the better tier 8s seem to be able to punch thru the turret anyways it’s just fun having the derp fun but I’m not gambling for it lol I’ve not been destroyed by it enough to make me want it

[spare solar]

Its fun to use until premium or t8 show up it can rip it to dust like thanos decided your fate

[hard niche]

@spare solar oh yes, now top tier it’s good to troll in but I’d rather see some other prems come in store that I don’t have

[spare solar]

My most experience is i get ganged on and tunneled hard especially by td and lights the heavies i see most that charge at me are 100s and vk168

[hard niche]

And it’s only 3% drop chance end even tho my luck with crates lately has been awesome I don’t think I’m gonna risk it, got the somua and the amx 54 both in 3 crate bundles

Was only after some free xp cause I figured I’d never get the tank

[spare solar]

I got this on the first crate when i bought it

[hard niche]

Oh yes in my vks I always just rush, usually With a pen and a ram I can deal 1000hp most times

I got it on the second crate, now the ts5 I stopped buying crates at like 10 deep cause my luck wasn’t there lol

[spare solar]

Those two can easily slap it with its health and damage

One of the best tag team i seen was an vk168 tanking my shot then someone else in a light came around the corner just to obliterate my as

I dont view the smasher as op either

The anni is a different story

[hard niche]

The coolest tag team I’ve ever seen on one a toon of amx 13 57s came out of no where after I took his shot and bounced it and just cut into him and kept circling him

[spare solar]

It feels beautiful to have a perfect team even if its the enemy teamwork is always best

Unless its a toxic person then ruin their day

Even though its petty last time i had a toxic teammate i just ran directly into the enemies to shoot and die

Sometimes saying love you too also pisses them off

[hard niche]

Last time I had a toxic team mate, i yolo’d when it was down to me and him and he was camping in a rhm so I led the enemy too him and drove circles around him while we got blasted

[spare solar]

Lol

Ah campers

with the smasher i camp behind the heavies especially if its a vk168 why hide behind rocks when theres a moving behemoth

[hard niche]

Lol I love Mobile cover, if any of those super heavies are on my team I’m stuck to em like glue

[thorny smelt]

It is funny because the enemy VK 168 was ganged up by my whole team LOL. The other heavies were going to the medium side and left the VK 168 alone.

[spare solar]

Vk100-168 are too easy to kill when their alone

[hard niche]

I always cover those big boys let them run the front line and me provide support behind em. They soak up dmg and I deal it out

[spare solar]

If they die you can still use their hull as cover

[hard niche]

Some of my best games in the leopard 1 have been due to using the Maus or E100 as cover

[thorny smelt]

This makes me wonder whenever I'm going for the Maus line, because of the slow speed, I might ended up being ganged up by the enemy team.

[spare solar]

Im going for the maus to soak damage

I like being a supporter type once in a while

[hard niche]

The maus isn’t designed to play as a dmg dealer it’s designed to take the brunt of the enemy fire soaking up rounds and bouncing rounds that otherwise would deal dmg to the rest of your team

[spare solar]

I feel like i mastered side scraping with the E100 just on one map tho

[thorny smelt]

I just need a few more XP and E 100 will be my first tier 10 tank

[hard niche]

E100 scrapes like a boss, it’s biggest weakness is the cheeks of the turret gotta wiggle them and most times still get blasted

[spare solar]

the E100 was my first vk72 is my second

[hard niche]

E100 was my first but I can’t remember the second. Now I’ve got a lot of em

[thorny smelt]

E 75 is my first tier 9 tank in the game so E 100 will my first tier 10. Now my next will be the VK 72.01 K and Maus. Seems my garage is mostly German. WELP

I might go for IS-4 and Obj 263 line next time

[hard niche]

Lol my garage is mostly brits because I love hesh rounds, I’ve only got 1 tank left to research it their tech tree and I’ve got 2 left on the Russian tech tree the 215b heavy and the obj 140 and obj 263

[thorny smelt]

I feel comfortable playing with SU-100M1 than SU-152.

[hard niche]

I hated the SU-100M1

It was worth the grind to get to the SU-122-54 tho

[spare solar]

Mostly german on my side

[hard niche]

With that 4275 dpm

[onyx sluice]

Why is the Mauschen so painful?
It hardly bounces anything at its tier and when facing T10 you're just a giant target for them to farm :(

[hard niche]

The Germans are great, just haven’t focused on progressing thru it much yet j do want the vk 72 tho

[thorny smelt]

I confronted the Object 263 with my E 75 before, and heck, I need to use APCR to pen this tank destroyer.

[hard niche]

She be baddddd

The jg.pz E100 TD is one I absolutely hate going against in T10 tho

That 170mm cannon just rips thru everything

[thorny smelt]

FV 215b 183 is something won't fear of confronting

[hard niche]

It’s easily penned tho

The jp e100 isn’t at all frontally

[thorny smelt]

The tank itself is based on FV 215b but with 183 mm gun installed so no wonder why it is easy to penetrate at least on the sides

[rigid thunder]

you need to learn to angle your armour and sidescrape effectively. It fills the same role as the maus, to bait enemy shots and trade with 460 alpha. Trust me, once you make it work you'll have a good time

[hard niche]

Gotta wiggle those cheeks if your side scraping that’s the only weakness it has try to keep the cupola on the opposite side of the side your exposing when scraping and turn the turret back towards cover to block the cheek

[onyx sluice]

I don't have much trouble side scraping, the VK100 is my highest winrate tank but the Mauschen just dosen't seem to work.

[hard niche]

@onyx sluice the turret position changes things for it and the cheeks are much easier penned than the 100

[rigid thunder]

in the mauschen you got a worse turret to worry about as compared to the vk 100. You can't just import the exact same playstyle over

[onyx sluice]

I am trying to adapt, I've racked up 60K XP in the thing but whatever I do the turret always screws me. I can't even angle it, the side becomes pennable.

[hard niche]

@onyx sluice gotta remember the 5 Ds of dodgeball when running that unit

Dip, duck, dive, dodge, and….dodge

Best way I could play it is by trying to time the shots and have the turret traversing as they fire the angle change from when they fire to when the shell hits helps

[onyx sluice]

Thanks, I will try this. Though I'm seriously considering just free-XPing the Maus. Is it's turret better?

[rigid thunder]

you lose the cupola but your cheeks are still weak, but it allows for proper angling

[granite crow]

I'm currently on the Panther. Should I get the Tiger II or Panther II next?

I've played about 4 years on console but this would be my first line on blitz

[spark basin]

tiger 2 is far stronger here compared to its console counterpart

[granite crow]

How is it stronger compared to console? And how does it work with the meta

[haughty forge]

@granite crow meta is heavy tanks , but e100 is garbage( sorta)

[thick trout]

Tiger 2 is one of the best tier 8s
E75 is one of the best tier 9s
E100 is a very good tier 10
Buttttt they are all pretty boring to play

Panther 2 is a meh tied 8
E50 is a meh tier 9 with a horrible grind
E50M is going to get buffed next update to become a very good med
But they are sort of fun tanks to play, it depends a little on your playstyle

I'd say the tiger 2 line would be better but keep grinding for the panther 2 line to complete it later, especially if you don't have plenty of fxp to max the E50 before you start playing it.

[hard niche]

@little lava the turrets solid on the Maus prammo can still pen the cheeks but if you angle the turret back in towards cover it’s 304mm thick

[fierce flame]

Where should I hit the tiger 2 from the front, I’m having a bit of trouble figuring it out

[placid slate]

Should always try and hit a tank on their broad side, that’s why it’s always taught don’t go broad side on top the hill, but for a head on tank, aim for the turret ring

[spark basin]

the armour on the tiger 2 is massively increased compared to the console version to the point only high pen guns can go through with standard and the lower plate that is usually a weak point is stronger in comparison to the upper plate

[thick trout]

If you end up facing one in the front then the turret is the weakest part, especially if it's turned away from you slightly. But generally try not to end up in that scenario and hit its sides unless you are in a TD

[fierce flame]

Thanks, unfortunately last game I rushed up too far without my team and had to deal with 2 tiger 2’s

[placid slate]

Ya, sounds your screwed regardless haha

[fierce flame]

Not the wisest decision lol

[placid slate]

On that note if anyone plays often I have a clan, worthington tank park, basically from 1800-midnight Est

[thorny smelt]

Should I spend my 64K free XP for E 100's 155 mm gun?

[spark basin]

its the whole point of the e100, if you use 128mm you should go play the maus

[thorny smelt]

Well... 128 mm gun is the main gun of E 100 but oh well. Gonna take advantage of that derp gun

VK 72.01 K will take advantage of the modules unlocked from the E 100 line

[hard cedar]

uh wdym main gun bc there's no point playing the e100 if ur gonna use the 128mm

[thorny smelt]

It is sad though that 15 cm gun dropped from Maus

No Mayback HL234 V-12 for E 100? This engine would make the tank run at the max speed of 40 kmph

[placid slate]

Why do I have to work I could be home improving me tanks

[spark basin]

life sucks

[terse pier]

Okay guys for comps is it best for arl 44 to have 105 canon or the 90m

[rigid thunder]

90

[thorny smelt]

If E 100 has this Mayback HL234 engine, this can be a ramming machine.

@terse pier Go for the 90 mm DCA 45 gun. It's so good against tier 6 and 7 tanks

[terse pier]

Thanks

[spare solar]

Nerf the abrams

Decrease the speed

It slurps gas too fast

[thorny smelt]

M1 Abrams?

[spare solar]

Yes

[thorny smelt]

I've never seen one

[spare solar]

And the rest of its family

Ask the devs to add that line wait a week then call for a nerf

Seriously though im waiting for new heavies and im not even gonna go for the phase i want the eraser tank

[thorny smelt]

Might as well add the USSR double barrel gun tanks LOL

[real plover]

Haha 800 damage go brrr

[granite crow]

The E75 is also very good on console. I think I'll get the Tiger II, thanks!

[minor mica]

Does anyone know how long I have to wait till I can sell tanks again

[violet timber]

Eraser is meh, the Thunder or Agent would be better to get

[real plover]

Usually takes 24 hours

[minor mica]

Bruh

[real plover]

Did the chain bundle vanish from the store? I was trying to buy it but it kept giving service unavailable and now it’s gone

[violet timber]

It's still there

[real plover]

Ok phew

I can’t see it anymore for some reason. I hope I didn’t break the store

[spare solar]

@violet timber eh if the front is good im good tired of getting hull down tanks

[violet timber]

The Agent is more of a bully wagon, and the Thunder can side scrape and hull down

[spare solar]

Im going to try and get the agent

Thunder either gonna collect dust or get sold like the t34

Depends on the amount of gold

Agent doesn't look like a heavy nor drive like one😅

[violet timber]

Nope, it's a light, and it is a bully wagon

There are a few lights that can bully, those mainly being VK28, Agent, Vickers cr and Vickers light

[spare solar]

What about the eraser?

[violet timber]

Eraser has the 105mm so ARL is just a better tank

It's a good tank, but just kinda irrelevant considering there's a free version that's better

[spare solar]

Whats the free version

[violet timber]

ARL 44

[spare solar]

I was looking for that but couldn't find it

[violet timber]

French tier 6 heavy

[gleaming monolith]

Any tips for the Caernaevon? I was great at the Churchill t5 to t7 series (BP has 3 mastery badges and 62% winrate) and sudennly I suck, and the only reason I got past stock is free XP. Any tips so that I can improve?

[haughty forge]

caernavon sucks. Become fatness to make it work

now, if we talking for real try to utilize your dpm and do not rely on your armor at all

[violet timber]

Dang, I just got whiplash going from Vickers CR spam to Pantera

[violet timber]

You legit have to hull down and show as little of yourself as possible. You're armor is basically non-existent aside from the mantlet and your gun is pretty bad aside from dpm

[plucky copper]

I wanna get chimera. So i can spam it like hell. Even Noobs be playing this tank at 60% winrate

[past crane]

ARL is worse if you use the 105 mm. The Eraser's main advantage is it uses the 105 but with a better reload, better soft stats on the gun, and much better traverse speed than the ARL, which in turn boasts the high pen, high DPM 90 mm.

[violet timber]

The ARL is just better because of the 90mm

There's literally no reason to use the 105 on the ARL

[spare solar]

@violet timber i didn't know that tub was the arl i thought there was two of them a special and none special

[violet timber]

There's the tech tree ARL and then the Eraser

[spare solar]

I will get both

I sold the tree one due to being annoyed with it

Stock

[mighty delta]

of course you will get annoyed to a stock tank, if u sell tanks just because they are annoying stock good luck getting a tier 10

[wet prism]

Thunder is meh since kv1s reloads way faster,imo the Agent and Triumphant(that russian t34 remake) are the best ones

[violet timber]

Thunder also has better gun depression and more penetration

[wet prism]

Well,its a 120mm gun on t6,in a russian heavy tank. I think we both can agree that gun depression and more pen are pretty useless compared to the higher dpm of the kv1s

[slender cliff]

Noooo why sell

[past crane]

Alpha, in a platoon its nice for one person to use the 105. I find it's still a good option.

[gentle wasp]

uh what how are pen and gun depression useless at all

[quaint gust]

With the is-1 should i use the 100mm or the 122mm gun? Because they both have the same ap pen.

[gentle wasp]

122

[wet prism]

I mean,its a russian tank,you shouldnt really expect a russian heavy to have gun depression in the first place @gentle wasp

[gentle wasp]

right, so having gun depression is an even bigger advantage, considering that its peers lack it

[wet prism]

You might have point there

[slender cliff]

You mean IS?

[violet timber]

The 90mm is better in every way except for alpha, there no reason to use the 105

[spare solar]

I have E100 and vk72 soo yea jokes on you im at t10 even with my M60

@slender cliff i have the E75 TS

[quaint gust]

Yeah is-1 the first is tank

[past crane]

Penetration is ok, its got 170 which is on the higher end for a T6 heavy.
Don't run it alone but in platoons, it's good along with the 90 mm. I'd also use it stock on the AMX M4 45 because that alpha will make the turret grind easier.

[gentle wasp]

I mean yea 170 is cool and all until you realize the 90mm has 200

[slender cliff]

Noice

[slender cliff]

Run 122mm at all times.

[spare solar]

Both are nice

[mighty delta]

lmao what a pro

[past crane]

Which is crazy. However keep in mind the M6 has 160 mm, the KV-1S has 160, the KV-2 has 167 using the 107, the VK 36 has 150 using the 88, and the Churchill has 148.
So the 105 is already good pen wise, no one uses it though because of the outstanding pen on the DCA 45 gun.

Both are good options in the pen department, and the alpha as well.

[gentle wasp]

yea it's not a bad gun, but as STA said it's better in every way except alpha, and by a good amount.

[spare solar]

Thx

Arl isnt for me because the front can be heavily penned so yea

[mighty delta]

heavily penned?

[spare solar]

With all my tanks that can touch the arl premium can slap it

[gentle wasp]

it's less about heavy armor and more about having a tier 8 gun

[mighty delta]

that sentence does not make sense, what are u trying to say?

[spare solar]

Im saying im not gonna use something that can get snapped like thanos when a baby tank tap it

Its not for my playstyle basically

[mighty delta]

but its just a tier 6, which takes like 2 hours to grind, buying then selling is basically wasting money.

[spare solar]

Waste it shall i can just buy it again if i felt like it

Wait 2hrs? I just use credits to get it

[mighty delta]

and once again i fail to understand what ur saying, can u just correct ur grammar?

[spare solar]

Aight let me dumb it down

Me no like arl

Me like heavy tanks

Me like tanks with strong front armour

Like tiger2 etc

Me no use french heavies

[gentle wasp]

lol

[hollow notch]

Lol

I personally consider the tiger 2 to have trash armor
Anyone with half a brain cell butters it

[spare solar]

I use the tiger to troll the lower tier

[mighty delta]

lmao arl has armour, its not worse than the tigar2

[spare solar]

That is true tho

Not even playing i dont feel like repeating myself about arl yo

[mighty delta]

arl and tigar 2 are so similar in play style like wtf

[spare solar]

I will get the eraser to shut ya up about my decision deal?

[hollow notch]

...

[spare solar]

@hollow notch i have enough for the arl but its for the kv5 when i get it back

[hard cedar]

??

[mighty delta]

i mean u can just shut me up with ur fantastic grammar

[gentle wasp]

he already did

[spare solar]

I sold the kv5 and it needs over 1mil coins to get it back

[hard cedar]

well it's not exactly the best tank so idrt you need to get it back

[mighty delta]

lmao imagine selling premium tanks

[spare solar]

Then i will try the arl one more time since this guy over here wont shut up about it

[mighty delta]

lmao idc what u do

[spare solar]

Happy?

[mighty delta]

i just find it funny how u said u like heavies with strong frontal armour and arl is one

[spare solar]

Because i got melted like butter in it faster than my other tanks

[mighty delta]

i mean if u show ur butt of course

[mighty delta]

i'll be happy if u sell all ur premiums

[spare solar]

No i only sell i cant use

[quaint gust]

Just tried it. The 100mm feels much better.

[spare solar]

Besides ram 100% not gonna be sold☕

[mighty delta]

u mean "i only sell the ones i don't use"?

[spare solar]

Do you really want me to text you like a child 🤔

[slender cliff]

Bruh. But the 122mm is so devastating

[mighty delta]

lmao you are the one texting like a child with all your grammatical mistakes making your sentence impossible to understand

[spare solar]

Me was clear

[slender cliff]

You can get them back with credits lmaoo
I sell them all the time

[mighty delta]

just try typing a sentence without any grammar mistakes lmao

[spare solar]

Me was simple

Me sell hulldown tanks

Me keep tanks me good with

Me like slow heavily armour tanks

Me also have smasher

[quaint gust]

Not when you miss all your shots because you keep getting shot and have to move all the time

[real plover]

The daily attention seeker gotta love it

[mighty delta]

that's understandable but if u sell it then buy it back ur kinda wasting credits

[mighty delta]

u do understand the difference between "me" and "i" right?

[slender cliff]

It just requires patience and more practice. You’ll get the hang of it quickly

[spare solar]

Me kno English

Me speak ye

Smasher go br.......Br.......Br

[slender cliff]

Yes but whatever makes you happy is the right way to go.

[mighty delta]

true that

[quaint gust]

I don’t think patience is good when you get shot 3 times before you cant reload fast enough

[spare solar]

If you know that then why seek my attention

[mighty delta]

lmao ok then kid, great English btw

[mighty delta]

im not even gonna try to understand what that means, anyone else understand that sentence?

[mighty delta]

that wasn't replying to u lmao

[slender cliff]

Bruh the IS armor is spectacularly bad. Don’t sit out in the open when firing. I like to use some ridges and flanking maneuvers to be safe when aiming in. Also don’t forget equipment

[spare solar]

Wait i remember what to do to retarded people

[quaint gust]

I wasn’t in the open that’s the thing. I was behind a building and getting shot by a td pz iv who was in my spawn. And a shashhorn and vk36H who were still in their spawn.

[spare solar]

Perfection

despite blocking suck much better then replying to a troll

[slender cliff]

@mighty delta @spare solar you guys please chill

[mighty delta]

im quite chill, just messing with this kid

[spare solar]

That dumnbas started just because i didn't like the arl

[mighty delta]

just take a look at the things he sent and try to understand lol

[slender cliff]

Hmm well if it’s that case I’m not going to pressure you to play the 122. I’ve seen it’s bad and good qualities and also the 100. Both can give you very rewarding games. It’s just me who prefers the 122 for personal reasons.

[spare solar]

@slender cliff anyway is the VII a good gun for the arl i will try it one more time maxed

[mighty delta]

the 90mm is the better gun

[slender cliff]

I would go for 105 if you prefer higher damage over worst gun stats

Tho the 90mm is a respectable gun since it has better gun stats and nice dpm

[pine orchid]

Imagine 3.36 am still grinding T-62A

[spare solar]

Higher damage is better

[slender cliff]

🤷‍♂️ whatever works best for you

[mighty delta]

imagine kv1 with high alpha gun lol

[spare solar]

Question the 90mmshoot faster or they all have the same reload

[slender cliff]

Bruh. It shoots faster

[spare solar]

Oi i only used the bloody tank a couple of times then sold it😅

[violet timber]

The 90mm is better in every way except alpha. Use the 90.

[spare solar]

I have the VIII on it

And i still have this tank which i thought i sold now im hoping i didn't sell something i liked😅

The event one staying

[mighty delta]

you can check reloads by looking at stats btw

[ripe cedar]

Is this the best skin of the Grille 15 ?

[violet timber]

Nah the pink one is

[frigid quest]

Grille isn’t one of these tanks where the model is faded like some tanks like 121 and 62a, so all camos look good

[solid gate]

just go to vrt

[spare solar]

Whats vrt? Also i dont want the t34 just confused on what i sold due to the t34 still there

[cinder briar]

vehicle recovery on wotb website

[solid gate]

Vehicle recovery tool

[cinder briar]

used to recover past owned premium and collectors

[spare solar]

They can stay since the majority are hulldown which im beyond trash as

Literally just mastered side scraping with the E100 on one map😂

Hulldown equals death every match for me

[proud kayak]

cuz tds or heavies can pen u with prammo

[spare solar]

Not just with the E100 just hull down types in general im bad with

[mighty tinsel]

Just got the 263.

Any tips?

[frigid quest]

hard tank to use until 8.2

read the lineups and see what map it is. Depending on these two factors, you either snipe then push or push (but take it easy, your just a td). Go med route

[thorny smelt]

Bruh. I love ARL44 more than AMX M4 45

[spare solar]

Which amx m4

[spare solar]

At what cost 🤔

[gritty mortar]

5k

[spare solar]

Lol i got mine for 1.5k

1500 gold

[stone garden]

Just a litte more

[real plover]

Dude play some premiums you have like no credits lol

[thorny smelt]

Agreed

[stone garden]

I have one but im only playing with st 1

[thorny smelt]

Grind some credits first, or open up some free crates and get some from battle pass

[violet timber]

Mate you need to buy that crew and rammer lol

Stock ST-1 is already painful, you’ve made it harder than you need to

[thorny smelt]

He is broke at the moment

[violet timber]

Yes, but he’s admitted to having a premium to get the crew and rammer lol

[spare solar]

Using premium and collective tanks are great to use when low on everything

[prisma panther]

Wg need to fix Tiger 131 and kuro they are both statistically terrible and they based them on the late not early Tiger 1

[violet timber]

Just get Icebreaker lol

[prisma panther]

I play Tiger 131 because its historical

[violet timber]

Makes sense

[thorny smelt]

Tiger I is there and it is free

[prisma panther]

Its a late ;-;

I have it doh

[thorny smelt]

Some tanks are still intact up to this day like the KV-1 and B1

[solid gate]

Kuro has the wrong cupola mainly right?

[flint basalt]

B1 is annoying

Very small penetration spot

[tropic sable]

is the ms-1 returning to blitz?

[violet timber]

#devs-answers.

[tropic sable]

alr

[elder remnant]

Do I am curious are the destroyer class tanks like my jgdpanzer E100 ok for sniping in combat our is that considered camping and a offense

[spark basin]

its only camping if you sit around without a shot for a period of time without relocating

[elder remnant]

Then I ain’t a camper

I constantly move to new areas around my team until I either die our win

[spark basin]

indeed

[thorny smelt]

I feel comfortable with SU-100M1

[elder remnant]

Well my jgd panzer is a big bOi doing 800 to a thousand a shot at times

[haughty forge]

you could play second line and heck, even first line sidescraping with jag but it is kinda risky

[elder remnant]

But the issue is finding the enemy’s weak spot since sometimes when it comes to facing tortoise is easy FV215Bs that’s where I can struggle because I could successfully get fv nearly dead and then get a 1111 shot and die

But so far I am proud having the jgd but now I am going for a American class X tank T110E4 which is a tank I frankly like in its design and damage.Also since I’ve witnessed those things first hand dominate an FV215B

[valid gale]

Nope the E4 is not at all a beginner or friendly tank and the 215 dominates it everyday

[spark basin]

fv215b is getting whacked hard whereas e4 is getting a significant buff in 8.2 though

[covert horizon]

les go i got it, cant angle crap tho

i need some tips on angling this tank, I'm quite struggling with this tanks weakpoints

[keen garnet]

Dont angle it, ur sides are paper
Dont rely on ur armor in the first place lol
Only the front plate is good, rest of the tank is paper although I believe the mantlet is getting a buff in 8,2

[covert horizon]

so snipe on the back just like other tds?

[plucky copper]

@covert horizon U dont angle that thing. U just take Stalin’s name and drive that thing forward and send everyone to gulag

[covert horizon]

lol ok just rush then

some ppl say go med route and some ppl say go ht route, did both routes yet both route were not the best with results

well i'll just hide my bottom plate then

[rigid thunder]

the main thing you wanna do in the 263 is try baiting shots

[covert horizon]

rarely have i did that, maybe I'll try it

[rigid thunder]

your tank is kinda covered in weakspots (mantlet very easy to pen with prammo, superstructure easy pen for TD prammo/374 heat, lower plate, engine deck, and even the small metal bar separating the superstructure and the hull)

[covert horizon]

noted

thanks

[rigid thunder]

ideally you do want to play passive at the start of the match, mostly playing second line. Full on yolo rushing at the start is a great way to expose your pathetic sides and rear, only do that when

a) you know there's no enemies in spots to crossfire you
b) you're not getting any shots in
c) you aren't driving into a huge horde of enemy tanks
Bullying mediums is what the 263 does well, since the 460 alpha basically allows you to out-trade all of them even if they do spam heat at your mantlet

[covert horizon]

oh med route was right

[real plover]

Oh my god my second favorite TD is finally getting a legendary camo

[thorny smelt]

I'm grinding the Obj 263 line.

[real plover]

1. It’s getting buffed
2. It’s getting a legendary camo
   Two things that I’ve always wanted for this tank

[solid gate]

Obj 263 = op DPM

[thorny smelt]

Only APCR and other high pen shells can pen this tank

[solid gate]

60% of players dont use premium shells

[real plover]

With tank destroyers you don’t even really need premium shells to pen people if you use calibrated. Especially tier 10 TDs

[solid gate]

Tank destroyea max premium shell penetration ist 405mm

[woven summit]

long barrel stug 3

[plush hinge]

How to destroy a Maus: you can’t just run

[plush hinge]

How to make it more op: use preium, even thought I can’t

[fast compass]

263 is meh. But that might change next update. It might end up being painful but above average. As much as I appreciate the armor buff in 8.2, I enjoyed that gun a lot more and that's getting trashed for the armor

[plush hinge]

I like 263, it’s fun, plus, big boom

[fast compass]

It maybe fun but it is meh. Also it doesn't have big boom, just has dpm.

[rigid thunder]

the dispersion nerf is really gonna kick it tbh, since I run vstabs

[real plover]

They’re just nerfing the gun dispersion, the aim time will still be the same

Besides, I don’t really care about the nerf because close range fighting go brrr

And 263 is going to be a pain to come across in 8.2 so you’ll need a buddy to fight it unless

1. It’s afk
2. They have no brain cells and don’t even try to wiggle their tank.
3. They have their rear end facing towards you and you circle behind them and get that nice HE in there.
4. If you have a buddy helping you out, try to approach it from two different directions

[rigid thunder]

gun accuracy is calculated with base dispersion in the equation though.\

[thorny smelt]

Gun depression is the least of my concerns since it is made to snipe unless it is some sort of CQC situation or the map is not friendly to these kinds of tank destroyers.

[real plover]

But you can’t buy the 263 through offers….

Lol deleted message

[rigid thunder]

or they simply miss every single shot, since it's less accurate than an IS-4

[fast compass]

You are going to feel the 0.307 -> 0.374 regardless of if you play it at any distances. The aim time is the same this just means it will take the same time to get from your bloom to 0.374 as you did to reach 0.307.

[real plover]

Exactly. That was my whole point

So people are saying this is the biggest dispersion nerf in blitz history aside from 183

Nothing verticle stabs can’t fix

[spark basin]

im wondering if the 263 will get a higher average winrate because of this buff in 8.2

[rigid thunder]

it is a pretty huge nerf, if you want to play anything other than close range refined gun is basically going to become a must

[real plover]

Ok then I guess I won’t need it since it’s called a yolo wagon for a reason

[rigid thunder]

yes yolo and die

[spark basin]

foch moment

[real plover]

cough skill issue cough

[thorny smelt]

Get Foch-ed then?

[real plover]

I never free exped through any of the stock tanks in that line.

[real plover]

Yes it’s basically Foch without autoloader in 8.2

[hard cedar]

if you snipe in a 263 after 8.2 idk what u doing

[real plover]

Exactly

Should be classified as a turretless heavy/medium tank

[thorny smelt]

M3 Lee wants to talk to you

[spare solar]

Snipe with tiger131

Tiger131 is basically a light tank that can get accidental bounces

[real plover]

ammo racked a AMX 120

[hard cedar]

town 🤮

[solid gate]

I want back Renault FT, if they bring back MS-1

[real plover]

kinda was forced to because my team was a bunch of fools but we still won the game

[hard cedar]

🥳

[real plover]

they had a B-C 25 T that sucked

[hollow notch]

Lolz @charred vigil

[charred vigil]

wot

[hollow notch]

Balance discussion is such a meme

[charred vigil]

I swear man people saying maus armor is weak confuses me

[hollow notch]

I was just memeing that the pz38 thing (tier 2) can pen the frontal armor

[charred vigil]

Balance discussions is full of people complaining that their favourite tank is getting nerfed by bringing up absurd points on how something is or isn't

[real plover]

sounds like skill issue

[hollow notch]

Nah, I lack skills because I want the maus nerfed
Lol

[real plover]

no im saying the people in balance discussion have skill issue

[charred dragon]

which is better tiger porshe or tiger 1

[gentle wasp]

Tiger 1

[charred dragon]

yea but also from the maus line or e 100 line point of veiw too

[gentle wasp]

the E-100 line is better but it's up to you which t10 you want. both are strong but the E-100 is much more of a gun-first heavy, while the Maus is meant to soak up shots.

[charred dragon]

thanks i am at tier 5 so i have good decisions

[charred dragon]

and i am the heavy gun type

[slender cliff]

You have to learn how to angle your armor when playing the e-100. The e-75 doesn’t really do much to prepare and initially you will find it hard to play the e-100

[midnight holly]

tips and tricks for 183
please.

[real plover]

snipe and only snipe

stay at least 300-320 meters away from everyone

[kindred wren]

I recommend ambushing over 50-100metres

[charred vigil]

frontline works 90% of the the time trust me

[hard cedar]

Sniping in a 183 is meh you don't have any accuracy

[haughty forge]

it is not a nerf but rather a rework

[charred dragon]

which is the best ambush tank

[slender cliff]

Badger needs a bigger on movement disp buff

[midnight holly]

what equipment should i put on 183?

gun rammer or calibrated shells?

[midnight holly]

thx

[normal heart]

what equipment should i put on is-6?

[gentle wasp]

with DPM gun

[kindred wren]

All I see is a camper loadout 😛

[normal heart]

Thanks

[gentle wasp]

slaps on refined and camo net

[kindred wren]

Though I approve of the extensive use of supercharger

Supercharge your battles now by equipping your tanks with the super charge equipment! No money back guarantee!

[manic carbon]

@charred dragon Tiger I is better.
Tiger P sacrifices some mobility and traverse, but the armour is riddled with so many weakspots its not a good trade

[gentle wasp]

790 standard shell velo gross
and even the APCR is sub 1k

[kindred wren]

On the 183?

[gentle wasp]

on IS-6

[kindred wren]

Was confused there for a second

[gentle wasp]

ah yes 183 APCR
183 has 830 btw

oh yea I was confused too I didn't realize which pic you replied to.

[kindred wren]

Yeah, I figured after thinking about it twice that you probably meant the IS-6

[gentle wasp]

didn't bother to check so I just assumed you were directly responding to is6
gg communication

[kindred wren]

10/10 would talk again

[real plover]

i went through the tiger p specifically because i could get maus and Vk 72 through it

[obsidian maple]

Bruh obj 263 has troll armor and they wanna give it a armor buff like wtf

[fast compass]

It doesn't really have troll armor. The lower plate is autopen for any gun. Med heat can go through the gun mantlet. 374 heat can go through the superstructure. The engine deck also exists although it doesn't come into play as much as some others would say. Sides are paper

[plucky summit]

It's only troll when it's going fast and/or rotating aggressively

[solid gate]

What's the equipment for Löwe and Panzer IV mit Schmalturm?

[plucky summit]

I use gun rammer and enhanced armor, those are the main ones I prefer for Lowe

[solid gate]

Me too

[spare solar]

Tiger131 is best medium tank

[icy bone]

Bro honestly. It has no armor

[spare solar]

So its the best light

Not a heavy so it can't be that

[icy bone]

The VK 45.02 also. I get penned by everything

[spare solar]

Forgot what that is

[violet timber]

The worst tier 8 “heavy” in game

[plucky summit]

Chieftain™

[hollow notch]

The chief at least has flexibility

The vk is an inflexible, unarmored, and tall brick

[plucky summit]

Yeah but it can reverse™

[hollow notch]

Oof

[ripe cedar]

See the power of my Grille!

[hollow notch]

Looks well done

[ripe cedar]

XD

[spare solar]

A full match of poor accuracy and only one shot that killed a light and people believe this thing is overpowered 😅

All but one shot decided to say no

[hollow notch]

Now for the real question.
Are you trolling or just that dumb?

[spare solar]

Not trolling it didnt even touch anyone but the ground and tracks

LTTB was the only one that died from getting shot through the tracks

[plucky summit]

Unlucky, because Smasher has good accuracy for a turreted 152mm in tier 7

[spare solar]

Then today with its telling me to f off then

im getting on my lupus

[plucky summit]

Yes, cool off, don't get frustrated, it only makes the experience worse

But yeah, Smasher is OP, you'll find that soon

[spare solar]

I just don't see it,i like it until the shell say no and miss

It is satisfying when the shell is perfect

Besides that

That match it missed every last shot but one

[violet timber]

Love the Lupus

[spare solar]

Same it was my first money bought tank and i dont regret buying it

[violet timber]

12 degrees of gun depression with an insane turret is hot

[hard niche]

Here probably comes an attack but I think the Sheridan missle should be removed from the game

[spark basin]

you can literally only use it in gamemodes which don't affect stats so i dont understand why ppl are still not happy

[hard niche]

Because the game modes that everyone wants to have fun is is ruined because you can yolo a missle across the map and hit someone for 700-900 dmg

[spark basin]

you cant just yolo a missile from across the map due to obstacles and limited range, wdym exactly

[hard niche]

When you fire over a rock and hit me that’s bs

Not to mention how everyone spams it do to the fact you don’t have to have a direct line of sight to hit someone

[valid gale]

I mean it takes some skill to pull off a shot like that and due to the nature of game modes theres even less of an opportunity to use it

[violet timber]

Missiles are very slow and easy to see coming, there's even a loud audio cue that happens for the entire team, even if you're all the way across the map, when an enemy launches a missile. Just put your tracks in the way or get behind a rock that makes the turn too sharp for the missile.

[icy bone]

When ATGMs were allowed in normals games, I always moved so the middle would hit my turret of my is4. Pissed off a lot of Sheridan players

[plush hinge]

Except for hitting the ammo rack which is very lucky

[charred dragon]

ammo rack IS7 is luck, it is actually skill

[solid gate]

Who at WG thought adding a M48 at tier 8 was a good idea? Also why is it german it’s a US tank...

[violet timber]

It's a German bought American M48 with a ram on the front. It's funny so it gets a pass

[solid gate]

I guess... at least put that thing in tier 9

[violet timber]

Naaaah, it'll stay tier 8. It probably has the small 90mm gun instead of the 105

Yeah it's a 90mm

[solid gate]

Haha small 90

[stuck mantle]

is there any lines that is fun and not too bad nor op

[lyric copper]

have you not seen the 59-Patton bruh

btw both Pattons at tier 8 have a 90mm gun

[violet timber]

There's also the T95E2 which technically has a Patton turret, just weakened for some reason

[lyric copper]

which is why you never buy the T95E2, it’s a worse 59-Patton

[strange thicket]

59patton is not that good to begin with

[rugged elm]

Hi, i equipped the e50 with the best turret and gun but should i also improve the speed with the best motor and tracks?

[rigid thunder]

yes

[thorny smelt]

absolutely

[normal heart]

what equipment should I put on the t49 tank?

[orchid oracle]

Su85b or a20?

[copper swan]

I think you asked this before

[orchid oracle]

No i dont aşk this before

[novel linden]

guys, do you know guys why is ms1 has become legendary? why?

[indigo vector]

horror for that panther, xd

[cunning leaf]

Hahaha

[real plover]

What the hell is that sentence…

[solid gate]

Not the worst thing that could happen to a panther, you didn't ammo rack him and take all his hp in one shot

[spare solar]

Worse i ever done to a Panther is breaking the tracks repeatedly

Which happens right back at me😂

[spare solar]

I dont think everyone realizes how slow the reload is on the smasher

I was apparently fighting an experienced player while having an useless dead teammate telling me to shoot in mid reload

Shamelessly i was baited hard to shoot 😅 it happened around 2am today

[midnight leaf]

10 seconds isnt that bad

[hollow notch]

Don't mind the tanks in tier 10 with the same dpm that have to deal with targets that have quite literally double the hp pool

[sand pewter]

wg logic

[midnight leaf]

(pc)

[hollow notch]

Last time I checked pc was a balance nightmare.

And this isn't pc.

[rigid thunder]

the ISU-122S trades virtually everything for godlike DPM - terrible armour, accuracy, shell velocity, shell capacity, penetration, gun angles, gun depression and mobility. Also it's a squishy TD with no turret, using the DPM is incredibly difficult, and happens as often as getting 3 shots off in the foch 155

The smasher on the other hand....

[spare solar]

Its bad when you shoot then everyone in the radius hears it then swarm like zombies for your blood

[rigid thunder]

that's a skill issue

[spare solar]

@rigid thunder well yes when im going against an experienced player

[midnight leaf]

eggs dee

pc is built different

[hard cedar]

if they can swarm you so easily you're just in a bad position

[hollow notch]

There is a thing called cover. I recommend figuring out how to use it before blaming the tank for your incompetence

[spare solar]

Incompetence? Im not mad at it one bit😂 where you thought that? Just saying some tanks can easily kill the smasher if u mess up

If i wanted to hate on tanks i would go for heavies that can be penned easily