vehicles-discussion

[lyric copper]

@dreamy blade I’ll explain why here,

SP is slow, has a bad gun, everyone knows it’s weakspots, it’s only saving grace is that it prints credits like a struggling poor country prints money

[dreamy blade]

icic

[gilded saffron]

How good is t95e6?

[violet timber]

It's a faster E5 with less armor. Overall, I'd put it at about average

[tribal scaffold]

I had a question, why WG don't add the EBR's tech line?

To WoTB

[violet timber]

Because the lights we have already have insane amounts of view range and mobility. The EBR is built for long distance speed, and with Blitz's small maps, it just doesn't fit

[tribal scaffold]

Ok, thx

Did WG think to add the M56 Scorpion?

To WoTB

[violet timber]

It's in PC and I think it would work in blitz

[tribal scaffold]

I hope WG add it

And which is better to grind: the new polish tanks or the FV 4202?

[plucky summit]

Probably the new Poles

[tribal scaffold]

But the HE penetration of FV 4202 it's pretty cool

[plucky summit]

Yes, but that is its only niche

[violet timber]

The 60TP is probably gonna have some nice HE as well as HEAT

[plucky summit]

The M56 Scorpion would actually be really bad in Blitz if the stats are transferred, probably a big DPM buff or spall liner would be needed

[manic carbon]

FV4202 isn’t easy to play but once you nail it down it’s pretty great, and the premium HESH on the line is a unique and fun factor.

Unfortunately you have to go through the Centurion I for it

Centurion 7/1 is more tolerable and is better tier for tier

[plucky summit]

It has 1mm hull armor, which is comical

[tribal scaffold]

And the 60TP which playstyle it got?

[plucky summit]

Basically an E100 that's more integrated to hulldown on enemies

[tribal scaffold]

I think it's IS-4 with E100 type gun, or smth like that?

[plucky summit]

Yeah basically

[tribal scaffold]

Mby I will grind it better

I got IS-4 and Ik how to play in it, and I got E100 too, so mby the 60TP will be my best tank

The IS-7 is better than IS-4?

[violet timber]

No IS-4 is better

[manic carbon]

IS-4 is better, but the IS-7 isn’t bad

[tribal scaffold]

I heard the IS-7 is 1 of the oldest tanks of blitz

[tribal scaffold]

Ok

[plucky summit]

IS-7 is bad at performing IS-4's role, but has the build to fight mediums

Unless IS-4 gets dummy consumables

It'd really stand up and do its part in damage if

1. People played it as it should
   and
2. It had better gun stats, like accuracy or a bump in AP damage, to 480

[tribal scaffold]

Hmmm, after grind the 60TP, should I grind IS-7?

[plucky summit]

IS-7's a good starter heavy, but so is E-100

[tribal scaffold]

My first Tier 10 was IS-4

And then the Sheridan missile

[strange summit]

stop

[tribal scaffold]

The Dracula is better than the Helsing?

[plucky summit]

By WR, yeah

[tribal scaffold]

And, which is the best med tank of WoTB?

[plucky summit]

Eh, WZ-121 is competitive for DPM but T-62A is more conservative

[solid gate]

What about the Maus?

[glass linden]

A Big tank😂 😂 😂 😂

[glad sun]

Maus is t h i c c

[strange thicket]

I would say wz-121 is better for the alpha

[plucky summit]

Yeah it makes its appearance more in tourneys

[neat nimbus]

is good the bundle

[hard cedar]

ive never seen anyone use a 62a or 121 in tourneys

[plucky summit]

They are a bit outlandish because of the heavy meta :p

[hard cedar]

indeed.

[wise moth]

121’s complete inability to snapshot and shoot on the move means it can’t play normal medium tank roles, and there’s not much point in using T-62 when T-22 exists

[violet timber]

T-22 and Vickers are the only non-heavies I see in tourneys

[plucky summit]

And there's not much point in using T-22 because T110E5 exists 😂

[wise moth]

TVP has a role on the battlefield in some strats

[hard cedar]

i see 140 and leopard and tvp sometimes

[violet timber]

Ah I forgot about 140 but I personally have never seen a Leo or Tvp

[hard cedar]

ive only seen leo/tvp a handful of times 140 is much more common

[violet timber]

Time to bring 183 into the meta of tourneys

[plucky summit]

I wish I did that, but no remotely comp team would allow it, even when I top the damage

[violet timber]

Just get a bunch of mates together and enter with a full 183 team ez

[plucky summit]

Y e s

[violet timber]

Or full Jageroo for more armor

[hard cedar]

theoretically one 183 hesh can change the outcome of a game

[plucky summit]

A HESH that I can pull off >:)

[violet timber]

The problem is one small tiny little atom of a thing called dispersion

[hard cedar]

wdym man, just frontline in your tank with no armor
i don't see a problem

[plucky summit]

I secondline, and aim

You see, 183 gets scarily accurate when you actually aim

[violet timber]

Alternatively, grab a Yoh

[hard cedar]

true!

[plucky summit]

Yeah I got that too, a 183 with its problems solved...

[raven lark]

#devs-answers is it possible that the grille could get a camo buff? Its camo is god awful. I don't think I have shot many times where I am not spotted. Feels like every time I shoot I get spotted...

[violet timber]

They avoided a camo buff for the grille by giving it spall liner and extra consumables.

[hard cedar]

#ask-wg is the right place to ask but it's open rarely
and they still haven't answered the questions from 2 months ago

[plucky summit]

15m bush rule :_)

[raven lark]

Ic. @plucky summit whats the rule?

[violet timber]

Camo net and bushes usually work

[eager lantern]

OK so I have the Mfive yoh Which gun should I get first

[plucky summit]

If you sit 15m or greater behind a bush and fire, the bush won't lose it's camo buff for you

[violet timber]

The 120 because the 105 is absolutely worthless until you get the tier 10

[raven lark]

ah ty

[eager lantern]

K thx

[plucky summit]

Ah yes, I would like to equip M-VI-Yoh's most renowned gun:

🌟 BatChat's gun🌟

[violet timber]

That's the problem with the 105, but the 120 has the long reload. I still use the 120 because fixed 183 noises

[raven lark]

Anyone got a good tier x that I should go for next?
Here are the tier tens that I have:

-Maus
-Sheridan (and missle one am an og)
-deathstar
-Obj.268
-Grille (just got it)
-T62a
-Leo 1

[violet timber]

E5 or E100

[plucky summit]

IS-7 :O

Seems you need a hulldown line

[eager lantern]

I would say the e100

[raven lark]

E100 seems such a bad turret though that is the thing. I think there are much better options for it. To me it seems way overrated. You load pramo and you butter thru the turret even when angled. It is not hard to pen at all

[hard cedar]

get 140

[raven lark]

140 is pathetic i have 62

[hard cedar]

excuse me

[eager lantern]

You could also try grinding the YOH line

[violet timber]

That's why you side scrape and trade. E100's alpha is what makes the tank. Throw in good side armor and a turret that works most of the time when angled, and you get a very nice super heavy

[raven lark]

I don't see a point to the yohs. They don't seem lioke my style either. If I would id go for t57 since I already have t49

[hard cedar]

try brawling mediums in a 140
then sidehug german superheavies in a 140
Then come back and tell me 140 is pathetic

[raven lark]

Ok, but cant I do exactly that in a 62a with much better armor and a better gun?

[plucky summit]

Not a better gun, worse, actually, but yeah

[hard cedar]

the gun is practically the same
and a 62a can't brawl due to its complete lack of hull armor
and sidehugging superheavies less effective
in a 140 they can't even hit you
in a 62a they can prammo your cheeks

[raven lark]

Are you really saying that a 140 has better turret armor than 62a? You cant even compare the turrets together. 62a has way more armor. 140 is paper

[hard cedar]

"and a 62a can't brawl due to its complete lack of hull armor"

[raven lark]

I disagree there. 62a definitely has some hull armor. of course not straight on but it can be quite troll

[hard cedar]

Ok but the 140's is actually good

[raven lark]

Sure, not saying that it is bad, but the 62a is similar enough that it is not worth for me to waste my time on a quite similar tank, where I could get a better variety of tanks. I think I need another heavy

[valid gale]

Nah if whoever your facing is competent and can actually aim 140s armor is nothing

[plucky summit]

T-62A is a more solid, conservative version of 140

[hard cedar]

to get a competent enough angle to bounce you need your 62a to be this angled
and by then your sides are a free shot

[plucky summit]

In the end T-22 rules all

[raven lark]

@hard cedar what gun is shooting at that? I aint paying 15 dollars to compare armor profiles on armor inspector

[plucky summit]

No gun, that's the effective armor for a HEAT shell

[hard cedar]

^

[raven lark]

ohh yeah good point am stupid gun doesnt matter here we are just cmparing armor effectiveness

"62a is similar enough that it is not worth for me to waste my time on a quite similar tank, where I could get a better variety of tanks."

[plucky summit]

As much as I like seeing 140 troll T62 with a hull, they both rely on the mistakes of the enemy firing upon them

[charred vigil]

t62a only has Turret armor Obj 140 has actual useful hull armor

[raven lark]

id take turret over hull imo

[plucky summit]

It turns out that turret armor serves better than hull armor o-o

[hard cedar]

gross imagine not enjoying brawling people

[raven lark]

i dont enjoy that always xd. i dont liek losing hp

[plucky summit]

T-62A brawls ;-;

[charred vigil]

140 turret armor is still quite bouncy

[raven lark]

Ok get passed russian meds. In reality, what tier ten do I go for.

Here are the tier tens that I have:

-Maus
-Sheridan (and missle one am an og)
-deathstar
-Obj.268
-Grille (just got it)
-T62a
-Leo 1

[charred vigil]

I was complaining at the statistical weakness of Obj 140 before I got it. however after getting Obj 140 I really really enjoy playing it

[plucky summit]

And by average shots of damage, when both players are perfect marksmen, T-62A wins the brawl by HP

[hard cedar]

ok but that's in a perfect world
@raven lark if you're looking for a heavy and you like the maus there's not really much that can mimic it except maybe e100

[charred vigil]

Obj 140 is just a really comfortable tank to play with its spread out armor and better mobility

[raven lark]

any other suggestions? what bout is4 and e5. if so which do i go for. i was also thinking bout kran. also gonna go for batchat real soon

[hard cedar]

is4, e5, and kran are all good options
I've played is4 and kran and they're good but a bit boring
e5 I haven't played but I don't think it's much better

[charred vigil]

Is4 is really boring to play

[raven lark]

All heavies in my opinion get boring. they are slow and usually nothing spectacular bout them gunz

[hard cedar]

well don't go for a heavy then

[raven lark]

I feel like I should tho cus I only got one. Also this auction for christmas, Im gonna buy vk 90 if it comes out again., that thing seems fun

[hard cedar]

well if you think heavies are boring vk 90 won't be much better
it doesn't matter if only have one, you shouldn't play heavies unless you think they're fun to play
I personally didn't touch heavies until after 5k battles and besides chieftain and yoh I generally find mediums are way more fun

[raven lark]

think i got 6.5k games

[charred vigil]

something like a T57 heavy or 50 b is more fun

[hard cedar]

^
yoh, chieftain, 57, and 50b are most fun t10 heavies imo
also fv215b and maybe 113

[charred vigil]

You know what If your looking for a really fun medium you should get wz121 that 420 alpha slaps for a medium

[raven lark]

Heavies can get boring but I wish I enjoyed them a lot more because they are a crucial part of the game. Do you think e100 is a good option? The turret doesnt seem reliable to me but idk maybe thats because I play a maus and I am confident I wont get penned if I angle in it. It is quite hard to over angle the turret in the maus

[hard cedar]

outside of comp mediums can perform just as well as heavies, so unless you plan on getting into tourneys just play meds if that's what makes you happy
it's not just you the e100 turret is paper to heavy prammo

[charred vigil]

E100 big fat alpha is fun but its really flat turret isn't fun. Wait till 60 TP comes out, better e100

[raven lark]

See, and that is the reason I dont want the e100. I know it has good gun but I just dont know how reliable that turret is even when angled. It can always be over angled

[hard cedar]

if you want an e100 but better the 60tp should be solid

[charred vigil]

Alternately you can go For Is7 I think its pretty fun and has decent Alpha

[hard cedar]

but again, don't get pressured into playing heavies just because they're meta
if anything meta tanks are more boring

[storm robin]

Kran is fun, as well as Prog 65 and Vickers L

[raven lark]

Ill wait. Mediums are fun I will admit. I am into grille right now as I just got it. I maybe would like to get batchat idk

[hard cedar]

batchat is nice, but if you're into meta tanks the vickers is a better option

[raven lark]

I think itd take batchat over vicks. batchat seems more fun. I also want to try clippers as I dont really have any

[charred vigil]

Vickers is not fun. I dont like it

[raven lark]

doesnt seem that fun. Has great spotting range but the turret is mneh. yeah at long range cant do much with turret but close range

[hard cedar]

i mean the turret on the vick is pretty solid
I just liked the mobility + hesh
the batchat has zero armor so like

[charred vigil]

e50m is fun for no reason except its a thicc german medium

[hard cedar]

e50m is only good for ramming

[raven lark]

true. bc does have better mobility tho and upper plate can be troll sometimes. I just think clipper is cool. I played batchat on frens acc and i liked it. seemed fun

I agree. e50 seems overrated imo. Upper plate is only good thing. turret is pathetic. load pramo and pen on turret its ez

[charred vigil]

its gun accuracy is good

[hard cedar]

the e50m doesnt have the dpm to brawl meds and doesn't have the armor to brawl heavies

[raven lark]

^. lower plate is too big and is always available to shoot. if not shoot turret. i have a leo

[hard cedar]

although if an e50m facehugs you in a med you could struggle

[raven lark]

yeah but that rarely happens. I think ima go for batchat next. I love the speed and i want something fun and it seems very fun. could use a fun light. sheridan for me is mneh. not that fun. sheridan u either love or hate

[charred vigil]

e50m is what you call a solid tank, literally

[hard cedar]

progetto would be more fun as the autoreloader makes it more flexible
also super troll armor profile

[raven lark]

Eh wouldnt quite say it is solid. its good not denying that, but there are better options. yeah prog seems fun. probs go batchat then prog

[hard cedar]

batchat intraclip is trash

[charred vigil]

Yes but the absolute satisfaction from ramming a t62a for like 500 health is sheer pleasure

[raven lark]

yeah ik but its clip and run

[hard cedar]

indeed

[raven lark]

Ima go guys. gonna go to bed cya

[hard cedar]

cya

[true moat]

The tier 9 batchat is absolutely great but the tier 10 is pretty awful, simply because it's not much of an improvement but it doesnt get to see tier 8s

[plucky summit]

Yeah it's great
Gonna
Regret
Encountering
Actual
Tanks

[hollow notch]

The bat is amazing when it comes to harassing and causing distractions. It's got a burst that can't be ignored and mobility to bug out.

The good thing about the batchat line is that it plays exactly the same the whole way through. If you don't like then early on in the tree you might as well stop, but if you like them, you like them all.

And the bat line also requires a very small amount of xp to grind all the way

[left acorn]

Any ideas on how to grind stock m103?

[hollow notch]

Tier 9 gun->tracks->engine-> turret->110e5

Don't bother with the top gun unless you find yourself enjoying the 103

[left acorn]

I have to get the turret before the tier 9 gun

[hollow notch]

Nope

[left acorn]

My eyes switched them lol. Anyway thanks for the tip, I checked and the only difference between the 2nd gun and the 3rd is that the 3rd has 258 ap pen while the 2nd has 242

[thorny smelt]

Honestly for me, tracks is my very last priority. Gun and turret armor are the top priority, and engine is the second.

[violet timber]

I don't think the turret armor changes on the 103, just the HP and turret shape

[fast compass]

Tracks are extremely underrated. They give you better gun handling, more traverse and often times just as much of a mobility boost as engines

[violet timber]

Mobility boost? Yes. As much as engines? No. Engines give a better p2w which is what matters most in mobility

[fast compass]

Tracks improve terrain resistance numbers. Which come into the calculation of effective p/w which matters the most.

[violet timber]

But without the hp of the engines, the effective p2w is still low

[fast compass]

Standarb

[violet timber]

That's 1 example of a tank that gets a minor hp buff with the engine. Most tanks get more mobility boosts from the engine than the tracks

[wise moth]

Tracks give a bigger mobility boost on a lot of tanks actually

On most tanks, tracks are more important than the engine overall. Increases to effective p/w, traverse, and gun handling all rolled into one package make them a key upgrade

[hard cedar]

Hey hey positive where do you go on Canyon in a med with no gun depression

[violet timber]

True, but on most tanks engines give more mobility. Tracks are just better to get overall though

[wise moth]

Factory corner. I go there in pretty much everything that doesn't have turret armor

[hard cedar]

Uh don't a lot of heavies go there though
Isn't it kinda hard to contest heavies in something with no armor

[violet timber]

Factory corner has a lot of hard cover, doesn't it?

[wise moth]

If the enemy heavies contest it, and you don't have proper support from your team, you'll be forced to rotate off of it immediately, and then push the town side of the map, or try to overmatch the middle

[hard cedar]

hm ok ty

[sacred trail]

What about Port Bay with any French TD from the AMX AC 46 and further? I just bought it today and already have the crew at 100% because it’s Mad Games abilities are fun

[wise moth]

With the AC-46, drown yourself and free XP the AC-48

With the AC-48 and beyond, first drive up to the road on the river/island side and try to line up a shot on any meds crossing to island; then just try to play from there. Since WG blocked off all the climbs, playing a turretless TD on port bay is really difficult, and you'll just have to be careful with how and when you peek

[violet timber]

Hey, the AC 46 isn't that bad. It's just a worse T25 AT and JagdPanther

[wise moth]

No, it is that bad. It doesn't seem that bad on paper, but being literally larger than the heavy tank it's based on, the AMX 50 100 (which is already huge to begin with), with about as much as armor AND no turret pretty much makes the tank unplayable

[sacred trail]

If it wasn’t for the low HP pool, it’s mass allows it to full-health ram lights using high-octane fuel

[wise moth]

That pile of garbage was by far the worst experience I've had in a tank above tier 5 in a very long time

And that was before the tier it's in was infested by Smasher/Annihlator

[sacred trail]

Was this also before the Dracula/Helsing update?

[violet timber]

Glad I got rid of it quickly, though the AC 48 isn't that much of an improvement

[fast compass]

Lol. I felt betrayed when I played it after watching a few yt videos saying it is good and stuff

[wise moth]

AC-48 gets more hate than it really deserves. Admittedly, it's not great; but it's kinda fun, and it's a huge breath of fresh air after the AC-46. It's kinda like a poor man's WZ-120FT

[violet timber]

The gun is meh, mobility is decent, armor is... good on paper, but non-existent in practice
^Talking about the 46

[wise moth]

See, the thing about the 46's armor is that at first, you think, "120mm of sloped armor? Sign me up! All I have to do is worry about the cupolas"

And then you realize that the cupolas are literally the size of a small tank each. And that nowadays most tanks don't even need to target them anyway because they'll butter right through the front

[violet timber]

Compared to the T25 AT and JagdPanther, it's just bad

[wise moth]

And also, that's before I mention the fact that 122s can triple overmatch the sides....

[violet timber]

You could work ridge lines in the 46 if it had decent gun depression

Give it 10 degrees and it may just be workable

[wise moth]

See, the thing is that it ALREADY has -10 gun depression. The problem is that it's freaking massive. And the enemy will be able to see and pen your cupolas long before you can get your gun on them @violet timber

[violet timber]

Wait I thought it only had 6. That's... a lot worse than I thought. Yikes this tank needs some help

[wise moth]

With its profile, unless you just give it broken frontal armor, or a god gun, I just don't really see how you can save this pile of garbage

With its size, and lack of a turret, you can't really cover behind anything; the camo sucks; it's too big to hide behind a lot of bushes; and you can't even ridgeline fight well

[storm robin]

Just play the T29 in T7, it’s great and it’s free! 😄

[violet timber]

Just give the 46 100kph top speed and 40 p2w, all problems will be fixed

[wise moth]

Why does that sound so much like a tank version of a Call of Duty predator missile?

[violet timber]

Don't look into it too much

[spring dock]

buff M48
Nothing needs more buff than the M48

[zealous anchor]

Laughs in E4

[tribal scaffold]

Hmmm, and which tank is better: The IS-4 or the T110 E3?

[rigid thunder]

one's a TD, one's a HT. What do you think...

[bitter lichen]

Even that, I used gold to free XP the 20pdr gun and the top turret

[mighty tinsel]

What's the absolute worst tank in Blitz from tier 1-10 (Excluding 183) and why?

[surreal blade]

I have played all my tier 9s stock as I didn't have free xp. I played is8 stock, t54 stock, standard b stock, t92e1 stock, Emil II stock. The only tank I didn't play stock was st1 cuz I had is8 and is3 gun

[plucky summit]

I’d say FT AC, 45 engine power that won’t push a tall paper tank that doesn’t even have a good or special gun

But that’s performance, it has a lot of silly features though, like a high drowning level and it’s topheavy so it can waddle

[mighty tinsel]

What tank is FT AC?

[plucky summit]

It’s a tier II French TD before Update 5.5, it’s a collector now so you’re probably seeking a more relevant answer 😅

Check it out on Blitzhangar, and tomorrow I’ll show you it in game

If you want ofc

Ok good night it’s heading towards 3AM here 😴

[mighty tinsel]

Sweet dreams.

[tender oar]

Is this worth it? And are the tanks good?

[rigid thunder]

T28 is pretty bad, T34 isn't great either

[unkempt raft]

They are decent. T34 is great if you hulldown. T28 is actually really good ignore this fool :v

[tender oar]

Nice. It comes with 4 containers aswell. But I'd have to spend 8 pounds to get it. Is it worth that? I've very few preiums as I'm mostly free to play

[unkempt raft]

Worth it. Make sure with the T34 to wiggle your turret a little bit when being aimed at. The very sides of it can be penned by TDs and some heavies

With the tier 7 T-28 use your maximum gun arc when going around corners so your armor is angled. People generally have a hard time penning

[thorny smelt]

Gonna try the Ferdinand soon

T28 HTC is such a rock of a tank that I can't easy to pen.

[tender oar]

Thanks

[solid gate]

is-7 and is-4 r op e-100 is trash it gets penned by HE from the top it gets outlfanked by everything cant 1v1 absolute trash armor needs years of learning to be effective the previous tanks dont learn you anything on how to play it

[thorny smelt]

SU-100M1's gun has a high pen but SU-152's damage is so juicy

[tribal scaffold]

If u are in a Skorpion G and u see in front of u a SU-152 or ISU-152 beg to God for save u from a HE Smash

R.I.P Skorpion G

[manic carbon]

That is the drawback for getting one of the best guns at tier 8, huge profile with armour anyone can HE

[tribal scaffold]

The Skorpion G can be really OP if u are skilled to play in it, it can beat a lot of tanks

[thorny smelt]

Same as true for SU-130PM and Rhm

[tribal scaffold]

Ye

The only good thing from Skorpion is the gun, the speed is average and the armour, good for metallic paper

[manic carbon]

It’s all about the positioning, which is true for any backline oriented tank destroyer, but even more so in the Skorp G because you will get rolled immediately since you’re a huge HE’able target

[thorny smelt]

Basically you should go camping behind a bush or a building with bushes

[tribal scaffold]

True

[manic carbon]

Maybe, but the mistake people make is that they sit behind one position all game. Read the map, teams positioning, and utilise the mobility to relocate to get better angles, or to support a part of my team that needs it, like my mediums on a flank for example

[tribal scaffold]

Hmmm

Yes

[thorny smelt]

Paging @calm drum

[limber crane]

Give Lorraine 40t the 100mm cannon

[balmy wagon]

Laugh in 2 gd

[thorny smelt]

60TP specifications from tanks.gg. It is from WOT PC version. There might be some changes like the reload times and armor profile.

[solid gate]

Oh my gooood i need Strv K 😩

Look at this

[lyric copper]

bruh

[hazy ingot]

Buff action X please

[violet timber]

Nah, AX is fine

[hazy ingot]

7k dpm would make it competitive

[violet timber]

True, but so would 70kph top speed

[hazy ingot]

And 180° per sec, hull traverse

[solid gate]

That would be unplayable

[violet timber]

Not if it had horrible terrain resistances

[solid gate]

It'd turn too fast, i'd give it the same turn speed as Fv215b with the consumable

[violet timber]

If it had horrible resistances then it’s effective turn rate would be much lower

[solid gate]

But then it wouldnt Climb anything

Fv4005 stage II when

[violet timber]

We technically do have the stage II as that’s what the model is, but weegee won’t put it in because it’s too mobile for the big gun

[solid gate]

Dont care, i want my big hesh on barn

[violet timber]

I mean, the one we have right now is arguably more effective

[solid gate]

Dont care, i want my big hesh on barn

[violet timber]

Just play PC easy fix

[manic carbon]

Too bad not getting it, there’s a reason they didn’t give it the gun

[solid gate]

Pc died

[violet timber]

Too bad for you I guess

[solid gate]

It would be better if it was researchable atleast, where both would be the top gun

[violet timber]

Then the rest of the tank would be nerfed to hell like the 183

[solid gate]

??

4005 has already no armor and concealment

[dusty owl]

Is it possible if this headlight attachment and a legendary realistic camo for the obj 252 it needs one

[violet timber]

Yes, but it has loads more speed and more turret traverse than the 183

[solid gate]

I would make the gun the same as 183 just with worse aiming time

[dusty owl]

Legendary realistic camo and headlight attachment for 252u

[violet timber]

It would still be too strong due again to mobility and more turret traverse

[manic carbon]

Why give it the 183mm? You want to play with that gun? Play the deathstar.
They made it different by giving it the autoloader, and having a second 183mm at tier ten is just not ideal..

[dusty owl]

eh hem

[solid gate]

Yeah but when you shoot everyone sees you and you have no armor to bounce shells and HE

[dusty owl]

Well I guess ima ghost :v

[solid gate]

@dusty owl no one knows?

[dusty owl]

Shit I’ve been exposed lol

[violet timber]

HE isn’t a problem due to spall liner and your armor is about as effective as the 183s, but the 4005 has more mobility and more turret traverse

[solid gate]

But its huge, and it deals similiar damage as the 183 just with 3 shots, what would be the problem if you gave it 1 big shot instead of 3 small shots

[violet timber]

The problem is that it would have to expose itself for less time to get the same damage

[solid gate]

Ok? Grille has way more dpm and only 12 second reload and no one is complaining

[lyric copper]

it has more camo than grille lol

[solid gate]

Wait what

[lyric copper]

lol

[solid gate]

How

[real plover]

What if the big barn had the option to mount the 183 but keep the autoloader

[lyric copper]

I would hunt you down

[real plover]

Good point.

[solid gate]

@real plover

[real plover]

Researchable for 200K exp. Sound fair enough?

[lyric copper]

FV4005 with 183 is still hella manoeuvrable and has a 180° arc

@real plover I have 300k in my 4005 rn

[solid gate]

Buy the 183mm

[real plover]

I researched the FV4005 a month ago but I still haven’t bought. I’m grinding down like 8 different lines at once

[lyric copper]

reasons why FV4005 shouldn’t have 183

It’s still manoeuvrable
It has reticle cali
It has super speed boost
It has 180° gun arc
It has very fast reverse speed too

[real plover]

Ok ok amazing point. Shouldn’t receive 183. However on Console and PC it has that juicy 183 with HESH. Yesterday I was playing the Centurion 7/1

I have 16 HESH shells, 16 HE shells and 40 APCR shells loaded. (This slowmode bro)

[lyric copper]

and it’s feared due to the gun itself, never mind the armour

[violet timber]

Console and PC also have much larger maps and don’t have broken consumables

[real plover]

And I just absolutely adored playing the tank with the 105 L7A1. Easily my favorite tank line.

@lyric copper I rarely see other centurions and they’re usually stock when I do.

[lyric copper]

talking bout 4005 on pc

[real plover]

Oh I didn’t see the message that was replied to, sorry.

[solid gate]

Why do other platforms have it then

[violet timber]

Bigger maps, no broken consumables

[lyric copper]

because there it will be balanced out

You get spotted in a 4005, arty immediately prioritises you, everyone else does too

PC doesn’t have any special consumables iirc

[solid gate]

Pc has the super boost too

[solid gate]

No everyone prioritises Maus

[violet timber]

Yes, but it damages your engine and they have bigger maps

[real plover]

Death Star doesn’t exist on PC. Xbox has bigger maps than PC does. And the WT E 100 still exists on Xbox, though it’s getting power creeped.

[solid gate]

Yes it does, its a premium/collector

[lyric copper]

arty would rather do 700 to an FV4005 then 200-300 to a maus

[solid gate]

You know they have AP right?

[violet timber]

AP is basically useless on arty lol

[real plover]

Oh I thought it got removed

[lyric copper]

AP that petty much is useless nowadays?

HE is the shell

[solid gate]

Ok

[lyric copper]

Also, sniping on PC takes place at longer distance, so it’s harder for an FV4005 to hit its target

Blitz sniping is short, it’s mid range for a WoTPC player

[solid gate]

Just make larger maps and make it 15v15

[real plover]

Goodbye mobile players lol

[lyric copper]

ah yes, snub older devices

Never.

[violet timber]

Most low end devices couldn’t handle that

[solid gate]

Good

[real plover]

I had a computer that was from 2014 and it could run fortnite👍

It wasn’t even a gaming pc it was just your standard computer with 12 GB RAM and 650 GTX

[lyric copper]

plus, 15v15 would ruin the concept of blitz itself.

Blitz is about short, fierce matches, not long 15v15 slugfests

You can see a 10v10 mode in PC’s current ranked mode, its way faster, single player actions are way more impactful

@solid gate still a bad idea

[compact lantern]

new premium?^^

[solid gate]

Then make it a gamemode?

[real plover]

Ah yes 200 kph with a 250 damage gun that can only turn 45 degrees.

Actually it doesn’t even look like it could turn the gun.

[solid gate]

Strv 😳

[lyric copper]

what would you rather have, a quick 7v7, or a 15v15 slugfest where people don’t make as much moves due to fear of annihilation

[solid gate]

15v 15

[violet timber]

Then play PC

[solid gate]

More damage potential

@violet timber pc ded, but ill try to make GeForce work

[violet timber]

Tough luck then

[lyric copper]

15vs15 is so stagnant, you make any play, you risk death

not to mention some tanks don’t even have the capacity to fight 15v15 battles lol

[solid gate]

Still better than having 5 of your teammates 40% out of 7

[lyric copper]

having less teammates means that it’s more up to individual skill rather than “haha this top tier tank has maxed modules, and theirs doesn’t”

aka a common occurrence in WoTPC

that, or a superheavy platoon gets matched against a autoloader platoon on a city map

[solid gate]

Thats MMs fault

[lyric copper]

and guess what? Most games in WoTPC are dictated by what the tanks are, not skill level

Meanwhile in Blitz it’s more about skill. A low tier can carry, a LT can carry etc

[violet timber]

279e

[lyric copper]

^ a near foolproof tank, which only better players get, and normal players typically have no chance

[solid gate]

Wotb has just "make same tank class on both teams" :2head:

[violet timber]

That’s the same thing PC has

[solid gate]

K

[lyric copper]

@solid gate may I also say that some content in your pfp isn’t allowed here

[solid gate]

Then dont play the gif

[lyric copper]

could say the same about you and Blitz if you want 4005 w/ 183 and 15v15

[solid gate]

Pc ded

[lyric copper]

nah, if anything, that title belongs to WoWP

[solid gate]

I'd play pc and leave blitz imidiately

[lyric copper]

Want me to show you the door?

[violet timber]

https://tenor.com/view/hooray-its-weekend-ok-bye-ciao-slide-gif-15739082

[solid gate]

What?

[lyric copper]

a game so dead you don’t even know huh?

[solid gate]

You mean world of warships?

[violet timber]

WoWP is still kinda fun, even though you only play bots

[lyric copper]

World of warplanes died long ago

@solid gate

WoWS still has a very loyal fanbase

[solid gate]

I wanted to play warplanes when it Released

[lyric copper]

better to play WT if you want planes

[bitter lichen]

I agree with you @violet timber

[solid gate]

Yep

[quasi needle]

Buff kv-4 dispersion and aiming time

[bitter lichen]

Idk seems fine to me, it's supposed to play close range anyway

[quasi needle]

Aiming time is so bad

It's like a kv-2 aiming time

[regal hound]

I want KV 5 to be get from a crate

[quasi needle]

Make it 4.3 Ami time or

[regal hound]

Or a even where you get tier 5 to 10 crates after a battle

[quasi needle]

It's so bad

[solid gate]

Remove dispersion

[regal hound]

Cuz why not

[quasi needle]

U miss like 70% of it shots in 100meters below

Plus it's cupola is so easy to pen it's so sht but it's a boy good at T7

[lyric copper]

play WT

[quasi needle]

WT is better than wotb and wot

[solid gate]

Im gonna try it on GeForce gimme a minute

[lyric copper]

cool then why are you here

[quasi needle]

I'm lonely

[lyric copper]

agreed with the Caern

Conq is fine

BP is cracked

Churchill I and VII are hellish

[bitter lichen]

I dislike how they made the AX and made the caernarvon literally worse than it. Not saying that the caernarvon is bad but what's the point of playing the caernarvon when AX exists. Yknow what I mean

[raven lark]

@frigid ember I am reading your pinned comment, the reason why people play tier 4-5 is because those are what we call "seal clubbing" tanks. Aka, tanks that are completely busted at those tiers and just boost your winrate a bunch. The T1 Heavy is one, since it has amazing armor and a good gun. People play those types of tanks a lot since they just want to bump their winrate, and they almost always win in them because they are broken. Also generally speaking at tier 4-5 people are not as skilled as some of the higher tier players like in tier ten. BDR is another example. Ke-ni otsu as well but nobody has that. Tanks like that which are clearly broken at low tiers.

[manic carbon]

only a year late to answer the question

[wheat flower]

So i just got the tier 10 gun for 50 120.
Damn its good

[solid gate]

?

@lyric copper show me the exit

[crimson burrow]

does anyone have the K-91 I want to know if it's worth buying or not

[solid gate]

@crimson burrow dont have it but i think its worth it

[low rampart]

There would be much less sealclubbing without the typical tanks that are used for it. The tier 3 ones particularly make no sense, an experienced player would win even with tech tree variants.

[wanton gulch]

POG

[solid gate]

Mice

[wanton gulch]

Took a whole year

I’m F2P the only thing I bought was 3 years of premium

[leaden talon]

Batchat with 1.5 secs interclip mayhaps?

[violet timber]

BatChat is fine as is

[static harness]

Had literally the worst rng ever every game
But I guess my team winning balances that?
Makes no sense

[violet timber]

Your DR and KDR are pretty good

[static harness]

It is like
2 games I get absolutely rekt
And then the 3rd is just godlike
Been like this for weeks now
It's not fun.

Also chi ri is great

[violet timber]

Might wanna change tanks and tiers every once in a while

[mighty tinsel]

Tier?

[static harness]

Looks like a balanced tier 8 premium to me
cough double barrel Russian heavy on PC cough

[tall mesa]

how does one play the T-62A

I have it but I have some troubles getting in on the flow again since it's been a while

[hard cedar]

hulldown

[spare solar]

I lost count how many people got salty and used the bot on me😒

So anyway i got this tank for 1500 gold

Got it from the boxes that cost 1500

Also have the independence too

[violet timber]

Noice

[tall mesa]

180d of premium

[wanton gulch]

I remember when the 1776 was a new tank XD

[violet timber]

I remember when I thought the 1776 was just a legendary camo and not an entirely new tank

[wanton gulch]

NOW I REMEMBER the 1776 was for a Super Bowl game

[silver lava]

Hows the Rhm. b WT?

[wanton gulch]

still OP like the old days

[silver lava]

Oo it was worth farming the st emil xD

[wanton gulch]

Oh the Borsig is worth it, especially its researchable gun

[plucky summit]

Yeah and now it gets spall liner

[wanton gulch]

Pog

[lyric copper]

nice pfp.

[wanton gulch]

Thank you, man of culture

[plucky summit]

👀

[sacred trail]

15 cm Pak gun with yeet-delet anything it pens while the 12.8 cm boasts accuracy and penetration for less damage. The Waffle and the Grille after that have even shorter reloads, and the entire line from St Emil also has Reticle Calibration. Use Spall Liner tho, since they’ll yeet-delet you with HE if you don’t

[autumn coral]

Hola

[violet timber]

Ello mate

[spare solar]

Gonna have this soon

Its the last tank i will get in the row

[violet timber]

Ayyyy the worst of the german super heavies

[frigid quest]

not really

[violet timber]

Which one is better than it?

[spare solar]

Still gonna get it 👋

[violet timber]

I have it researched too don't worry

[spare solar]

Trash to you tho☕ the one before that is nice for my play style oh well

[frigid quest]

vk72 yes is a super heavy but it isnt very comparable

other german superheavies rely on sidescraping and angling, vk72 doesnt and actually has a good turret and in fact, angling/sidescraping is actually a death wish in the vk72. having the big boomstick is also a plus and is effective at trading.

[violet timber]

I never said the tank was trash. It's actually quite good in randoms, as long as you're going against players who don't know what they're doing. Personally, I'd much rather take an E 100 or Maus, but I think the 72 can be fun

[spare solar]

Cant even use the e100 might sell it soon when i need the money til then its fine😂

[violet timber]

I'm a broke boi too but selling tier 10s usually isn't a very good idea

[spare solar]

I have no other tanks to sell

Not gonna sell collectors and premium tanks

[violet timber]

Just use them to grind credits

[spare solar]

Do that with my action x

[violet timber]

Noice

[weak ruin]

whats a good tier credit grinder i can buy rn?

[frigid quest]

your tier 8 premium should do

[weak ruin]

any recommendations for what tank i should get?

[civic hawk]

Buff conqueror turret bruh im grinding the 215b line Rn

[violet timber]

I'd suggest waiting for the Shark to come back

[weak ruin]

ok thanks

[violet timber]

Most of the tier 8 heavies you see are pretty good, with a few exceptions. There's also the Skorp, 130PM, Chimera, and the Prog

[weak ruin]

do tanks like k-91, chief mk6, and 121b make "premium" credits

[violet timber]

I believe so

My personal opinions on the 121B may not be completely accurate, but I absolutely adore the tank

[weak ruin]

@violet timber on pc its really good because it has 350 heat pen great dpm + good mobility/armor, how is it on blitz

[violet timber]

I enjoy it due to a monstrous turret, nice NATO 350 alpha gun, and a decent top speed. Just gotta watch the hull because it's pretty weak unless hyper angled

[spare solar]

The most i did at the moment got used to it already

[weak ruin]

gun depression is like -6 right?

[violet timber]

Yup, with 240mm of armor on the front

[plucky summit]

That certainly is an estimate of effective armor

[violet timber]

It's got a very strong turret on it

[plucky summit]

Ah, so you're looking for 265mm :3

[violet timber]

I just used the value blitz gave in game because I was looking for gun depression as well

[plucky summit]

Interesting, because no armor plate appears to be 240 on BH

[violet timber]

That's odd

[plucky summit]

And it's claimed to be 252mm like E75's turret on Blitzstars

[violet timber]

That seems to be a lot more accurate for how it performs

[plucky summit]

I mean, they basically have the same turret

[weak ruin]

@violet timber whats in ur opinion the best two tanks for tier 8 tournaments

[plucky summit]

👀

[violet timber]

I haven't seen a whole lot of tier 8 tourneys, nor do I know a whole lot, but the best two would probably have to be 252U and Emil 1 if I had to take a stab at it

[plucky summit]

I'd say Chimera and Emil I >:)

[violet timber]

I mean, if I entered in a tier 8 tourney, I'm bringing out the STA-1

[plucky summit]

I'd bring my Lowe

[violet timber]

Realistically though I may try out a celestial

[plucky summit]

Realistically though I may try out a Lowe

[hard cedar]

Realistically though I may try out a progetto

[thorny smelt]

Honestly, ISU-152's BL-10 gun is worth the grind with reload time similar to SU-100's 122 mm gun.

[plucky summit]

It's always worth the BL-10, it's the only gun you really need to use on ISU, unless you're that gimmicky and want DPM

[thorny smelt]

The SU-100's 122 mm gun is SLAP to the head damage. I might not need to upgrade SU-152's gun anymore when HEAT is the way to go for situations where the tank is impenetrable unless penetration is priority than damage.

[plucky summit]

SU-152 should be stock gunned, that's the most practical gun to use, but you should research the other two so the ISU grind is laid off more

[thorny smelt]

Yeah. It's a must or ended up grinding them just to get the BL-10 which is too far from the line of guns

I get to appreciate more of USSR tank destroyers with beefy alpha (save for the FV215b 183). I think I'm a bit get used to long reload times except for AMX 50 100 and Emil I. I need to work out on those tanks.

It would be nice if they include single shooters aside from the paper autoloaders.

[plucky summit]

There would have to be a copypaste if another FHeavy line was added

[thorny smelt]

German has two lines of heavy tanks, why not include another on the French tech tree?

The single shooter French heavies have decent armor than its autoloading counterparts

[hard cedar]

There are more interesting lines that could be added first

[plucky summit]

Germany has 3 lines of heavy tanks, but that's because PC does

PC also has 2 lines of French heavy tanks, but Blitz already goofed the tier 10 by making it a collector

[hard cedar]

That too

[thorny smelt]

Oh right. But it is nice for us who used to love ARL44 and BDR G1 B because of good armor for its tier.

[plucky summit]

Unfortunately you'll have to stick with those for the feel, because the real French heavies aren't gonna happen, soon, anyways

[thorny smelt]

Perhaps in future updates. They can either add another line or get rid of the AMX 50 tanks and replace with AMX M4. I know it is ridiculous and doesn't make sense to have a successor tank with weak armor but I guess this is WG.

[plucky summit]

I mean you wouldn't expect 183 to be badly armored after the AT line, huh?

It's just how lines be

[hard cedar]

I don't see how an armored french heavy line would be unique I'd rather have the 50 line

[thorny smelt]

Sacrifice the armor for a deadly gun or better DPM than the previous tank.

[plucky summit]

Ah, so the current french heavy line?

[hard cedar]

True!

[thorny smelt]

Yeah. The heavy line of tanks. Only being big in size.

[hard cedar]

Heavy classification in blitz =/= has good armor

[plucky summit]

Pz. II J exists

[thorny smelt]

Yeah. Only in French and some of UK heavies

[thorny smelt]

I think I sent the pre-5.5 tech tree in a collage

[solid gate]

WG so lazy

[plucky summit]

Elaborate

[solid gate]

TIGER 131 AND kuromorimine and all the other tanks that are inaccurate

[plucky summit]

Sorry they want to support low-end devices

They're not even trying to be hyper-realistic, let em be

[spare solar]

My tiger 131 is for decoration

[plucky summit]

Yeah, just use ARL 44, a better tank entirely

[spare solar]

Dont have it

I have smasher tho

And at15 the premium one

[civic hawk]

Why not remove or make it strong on the AT and Tortoise Cupola Its definitely annoying WG buff Tortoise armour to like 260mm or 270mm the tank is too slow

[left acorn]

And the french medium line (amx 30 proto and amx 30b)

[trim lily]

yooo new tank coming?

[plucky summit]

They're not heavies, I was talking about just the heavies

[left acorn]

I’m talking about how weegee also goofed the chance for a french medium t9 and t10 by selling them as collector/premium

[plucky summit]

Oh, yeah, that's true

[thorny smelt]

Introduce the Somua SM instead and we'll be happy as eating French fries

[surreal blade]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Bruh if ur alive, where's ur real head??

[lyric copper]

that would again, make it OP

[tender oar]

Is this worth it? I’d have to spend 10 pounds on gold

[lyric copper]

@tender oar T34 okay

T28 HTC meh

[real nacelle]

Where are the TS-5 crates?

[solid gate]

Dude, your Tiger in profile pic isn't accurate to name.

[solid gate]

Its Tiger 131 a early tiger from wot pc which is accurate

[night island]

hey new player here i started bc 25 t grind and stuck at 13 90 i do not like this tank at all and just wondering if i cant make 13 90 work will i struggle at t10 as well?

[hard cedar]

No if you're gonna buy 10 pounds worth of gold get the su 130pm

[earnest mantle]

Yeah pretty much because the 13 90 and the bc 25t play very similarly

[wise moth]

The Bat Chat 25t AP and Bat Chat 25t play very similarly to the 13 90, so you’ll have to get used to the play style. Just make sure to always run away from straight fights, and then when there’s an opening in the enemy line, push in and exploit it with the speed and autoloader

[night island]

thanks

[wise moth]

Also, at least with the 13 90, you can also abuse the very small profile. You can even play it hulldown, and if you rock the tank back and forth, he will be very difficult to hit

[modest solar]

Vk 30.01 p (；一_一)

How do I play this one good

[faint bramble]

Im still on cooldown in blitz-memes so I'll post it here

[spare solar]

Whats that xd

Seriously though whats the vk 30

[modest solar]

German light tank

You need to go through that for maus

[spare solar]

Ah

Idk

Oi i see where you at😂 100% i dont remember it

[spare solar]

Try attacking then bait them to the rest of the team

[thorny smelt]

It's actually a medium tank (in reality and in WOT PC a heavy tank)

[onyx sluice]

Use the 88mm gun. You have good alpha and good reload, use it to wear enemies down.

The turret can bounce sometimes but we careful of cupola, your hull armor is flat, don't expect it to stop much.

[solid gate]

wich one is better E100 line or IS7 line or IS4 line

[modest solar]

Alright thanks

[hard cedar]

Is4

[solid gate]

why is it good

[hard cedar]

Cuz it has good everything except gun depression

[valid cedar]

e100 is pretty good too, id say the line is better because stock sti is just 😔

[hard cedar]

E100 gross super heavies lame

[spare solar]

Where are the mauses anyway I want the achievement for killing them

[solid gate]

Light?
Fun fact: is the Father of the VK 45.01(P) that is the prototype of the Tiger(P)

[spare solar]

Did they get nerfed? Haven't seen not one

[modest solar]

I can't do good with vk 30 p (；一_一)

[spare solar]

Shoot it upside down

Wait if people control dysmo who got salty about my Wolfpack tag just thought about since I was about to put it back to the original

[thorny smelt]

Get your engine and gun fully upgraded. Install provisions and equipment to buff up your tank.

[mental breach]

Are the British tanks the only ones that have hesh?

[high anvil]

Idk if it’s HESH but Standard B has really strong HE pen. Otherwise generally yeah

[mental breach]

Got it thanks

[violet timber]

I’m pretty sure just about every British line has HESH(not too sure about the heavies) and most 150mm and above have very high HE pen

[foggy urchin]

Bro i really like the new U - Panzer
Its soo cool

[warm snow]

how come I cant put a certain attachment on my FV 183? It is the wasted shot attachment. all i see is the haloween ones

[violet timber]

Certain tanks can only equip certain attachments. Some can’t equip any at all

[warm snow]

gotcha, thats too bad

[solid gate]

Does anyone have tips on how to play the American T 34 ?

[jade canyon]

look at droodles blitz video on it

[hollow notch]

Find a central ridge. Poke, shoot, hide
Poke, shoot, hide
Poke, shoot, hide

[haughty forge]

hulldown, bad at everything else

[hollow notch]

And lol. Droodles simp found

[jade canyon]

not really, he just knows how to teach to play. if fatness had a vid it say that

[violet timber]

Droodles is entertaining, but he’s not the best teacher

[solid gate]

But what can you do when you can't go hull down ?

[violet timber]

Not a whole lot. You can try to face hug, but that only occasionally works. Your best bet is to hull down as your hull is paper and can’t really bounce anything

[solid gate]

Ok thanks

[acoustic ginkgo]

Guys, wat is the best mt/lt line to grind ?

[autumn trout]

How do I claim the IS-5? Level 10 was researched by the clan and myself to 100%. I also have the gold but there is no notifications or a purchase option appearing anywhere? I know most will reply it's not worth it but it's beyond the point. Is there something I'm missing?

[stuck mantle]

How do me use hellcat to its maximum capitalism power

[acoustic ginkgo]

Clan supply

[violet timber]

Mt would be 62A and LT is Vickers. I’d suggest the STB but only if you enjoy painful grinds

[acoustic ginkgo]

K, should i grind amx 50b ?
Yoh and t57 kinda painfull (i git both of them)

[jade canyon]

not worth it, get the k91

[shell forum]

May i inquire who is a decent teacher to acquire map tactics and tanking tip? I admit im far from a good player but I just suck at finding knowledge to fix that

[violet timber]

The Hellcat has an insane amount of dpm and is very fast. You can also snipe, so I’d suggest playing it like a td at first, but switch over to a light tank play style later.

@autumn trout the IS-5 is currently broken and cannot be purchased

[acoustic ginkgo]

Should i ?

[violet timber]

HisRoyalFatness and Meadsy69 are usually pretty spot on with how to play tanks. You can also try some of Bushkas older videos should you want some more help, though it may not be time accurate

[autumn trout]

@violet timber Thanks

[shell forum]

Ok. I'll go look them up now

[acoustic ginkgo]

Need an awnser pls

[haughty forge]

grind kronvogn

[acoustic ginkgo]

Already

[violet timber]

If you don’t have the Kranvagn already, I’d suggest that before the 50B. If you do have the Kran, go right ahead for the 50B

[hybrid bloom]

Hey question um
..... can u guys and gals add the t35 multiple turrent tank as a part of the heavy create? I think the community will love it

Please... or as a premium tank (NOT A COLLECTOR TANK) so everyone can get it

And for 3-4k gold or 1.5b silver

[shell forum]

Provide your reason why the community would enjoy the tank please

[hybrid bloom]

Multiple turrent = secondary guns and a new mode for multi turrent tanks only. And it looks cool

And the multi turrent tanks can only used for that mode

Cus the the Lee 3 has two turrets and many others

[violet timber]

We already have multi-turreted tanks with only 1 gun working

[shell forum]

Multi turret control sound like something PC client should implement, which i can say will be "too complex for mobile" according to WG.
We also have the T-28 collector tank and the KV-5 with multiple turrets (admittedly they are machine gun box) or the M3 Lee with a 57mm turret. None of them were given the mechanic. So we dont need the T-35 but rather the mechanic itself

[hybrid bloom]

Yh but in the new mode u could use all thr turrent guns

[violet timber]

Besides, we have the T-28, there’s no need for a T-35 since they’re basically the same tank

[hybrid bloom]

Never mind u fun haters

[violet timber]

There’s just no need to work on it when weegee could work on new tech trees

[hard cedar]

Automodded

[hybrid bloom]

Why am i not allowed to type

[hard cedar]

Cuz you spammed caps

[hybrid bloom]

This tank I'm talking about

https://images.app.goo.gl/baquhSkY1bkuRo5t6

[violet timber]

Yes, and there’s no need for it when weegee could make more tech tree lines

[hybrid bloom]

Yh this I hate the d3vs

[plucky summit]

WG has zero intention of bringing a tier 4 premium into the game

And multi-turreted gameplay would be very hard to implement, as well as inconvenient to use

[shell forum]

The main issue is WG will not implement multi turret control for a very long time. I expect PC to be the only client that could support the mechanic. It is too complex for WG to add into a mobile game so we can have the tank, but not the mechanic.
The T-35 is just another version of the T-28 idea which we do have as a collector so the community does not need another tank like the T-28 for now

[spare solar]

First time?

[plucky summit]

Imagine thinking we don't want it, just because we said WG won't/can't

[shell forum]

Yes. The players from PC side has been asking WG for it since the early day. The dev has no interest to put it into any of the game

[hollow notch]

There was a Halloween event with multiple turrets

[shell forum]

I do not remember the event. Any recordinf showcasing it would be nice

[violet timber]

I’d much rather them implement a Russian light line than the T-35

[plucky summit]

Please don't let the LTG exist

[shell forum]

Something similar, if not that very tank, is currently in the work so we are late to stop that convo...

[violet timber]

But it’s so beautiful

[plucky summit]

His mother dropped him 23 times before he became just a tier 4

[violet timber]

That’s what makes him beautiful

[plucky summit]

Well, what will be the tier IX of the line? Can't rip T-54 ltwt from tier 8

[violet timber]

Yeah, but the Russians had about 10 designs for every tank so I’m sure weegee could find one

[plucky summit]

What if we moved T-100 LT to tier IX and then slapped Obj. 907 in development as a tier X? o-o

[violet timber]

That could do

[past crane]

I had the same idea but the Obj 140 would be rebalanced into a Leo-1 style speed demon with no armor instead of the 907

[violet timber]

Nah we need a new tank

[plucky summit]

I mean, 907's hitting tier 10 anyways

[violet timber]

Could also bring in something like the PT-76 perhaps

[plucky summit]

At least 907 suffers in DPM

[violet timber]

Could change up the 432 to a tier 9 as well

[plucky summit]

Obj. 430 o-o

[violet timber]

Ohhhh boy that’d be fun

[plucky summit]

Yeah don't mention 430U

[haughty forge]

wat does u mean

[violet timber]

What, the medium with heavy armor, a heavy gun, and still medium mobility?

[plucky summit]

At least it has just 2588 DPM xD

[violet timber]

Only 2.5k dpm

[plucky summit]

And that special 440 alpha will bring a new niche to tier 10

[violet timber]

Yeah, but it’s armor may have to be down graded just a bit

[hollow notch]

It's just a wz113 clone

[violet timber]

Yes, but it’s more mobile

[clever crown]

bruh moment

[hollow tinsel]

.

[violet timber]

.

[solid gate]

is the kv 1 a good tank

[violet timber]

It’s average, which in tier 5 means bad

[plucky summit]

It's absolutely a disgrace to what it used to be

[solid gate]

what about kv 1 s

[hollow notch]

Kv1s is nice

[violet timber]

KV-1S is actually a good tank

[plucky summit]

KV-1S is a great high alpha tank, shoot, hide, shoot, hide, it's special for a tier 6

[hollow notch]

Also highly mobile

[solid gate]

then should i go with the is7 line?

[violet timber]

Workable armor

[plucky summit]

IS-7 line is good for starters, it's not intensive on angling the hull

[solid gate]

what line would you suggest for a bot that dies alot

[elfin orbit]

Is7 lol, it bounces stuff that really shouldnt be bouncing

[solid gate]

ok

and what line has tanks that do alot of dmg

[elfin orbit]

Russian/German casemate tank destroyers

[plucky summit]

Obj. 268's line is consistently high damage

[elfin orbit]

If youre new i wont recommend the german turreted ones yet, youll die halfway through st emil lol

[solid gate]

the problem is i played this game for a year and im still a bot

[elfin orbit]

Jp2 and jagdtiger are excellent

[plucky summit]

Oof

[solid gate]

then ill go w the IS7

[spare solar]

I can bounce the jagtiger☕

[elfin orbit]

Youll have to bounce it again in 7.3s

[spare solar]

True which is pain

Faster than my vk

[hollow onyx]

Do you know if in the future they will add the German light line? hwk 12 etc etc?

[hard cedar]

We don't know but next line is Polish heavies

[onyx sluice]

I'm close to getting the Mauschen, what can I expect from it? Any tips?

[jade canyon]

expect pain

[onyx sluice]

Oof, that bad?
I also only have enough free XP for the gun, the rest will be stock.

[jade canyon]

ripppp

[violet timber]

This is one tank I’d suggest the tracks or engine before the gun

[fallen heron]

How good is ST-1 compare to other heavies?

[plucky summit]

Good hulldown, but you gotta move a bit when you do

[hard cedar]

It's probably one of the best t9 heavies

[fallen heron]

I agree on that also, i think they should decrease KV-4 full gun aiming time given how hard to play the tank compare to other heavies at tier VIII( my opinion)

[hard cedar]

Meh imo kv4 is balanced as is

[plucky summit]

KV-4 does have terrible accuracy for that gun, and has a few weakspots on the turret, which can't be easily avoided using sidescraping

[half bobcat]

Hey i wanna know what you guys think about the new heavy tanks ( Mi- Yoh Tanks), because recently i'm just frustrated with these tanks because the tier 9, it upper hull (body) is shaped like a pencil and it's just annoying and i would like to know what you guys think about it

[plucky summit]

M-V-Yoh is quite hard to deal with on the hull, because its' so small and the upper plate doesn't tend to get penetrated

Either way M-VI-Yoh is OP

[fallen heron]

i just want a aiming time buff, maybe decrease it by 1.5s?

[hard cedar]

That's quite a significant buff

[plucky summit]

Ah yes, half the aim time, ok

KV-4 @half bobcat

[half bobcat]

To which tank ?

[fallen heron]

KV-4, maybe i accidentally overdoing it:I

[half bobcat]

I mean most of the tanks wg releases first time are op but this time it's again out of hand i mean same thing with sheridan an rockets

[plucky summit]

I mean the ATGMs had an inherently unfair advanatge

[fallen heron]

i dont really remember KV-4 aiming time but about 1/4 the original is good for me:I

[hard cedar]

Tvp and kran are balanced

[half bobcat]

I hate the kranvagn tech tree not gonna lie, i mean maybe it's just me but when they are hull down tough luck m8

[hard cedar]

If they removed kran consumables it would be fine

[half bobcat]

Which one because i don't have the kranvagn

[fallen heron]

i checked the KV-4 top gun again, maybe a dispersion decrease will be bette

[fallen heron]

I think the Kran is a good tank, maybe a bit more than average but yeah it balanced

[hard cedar]

the consumables on the line (reticle and super speed boost)

[half bobcat]

ah that one ye i know what you mean

[violet timber]

The super speed boost on the kran is absolutely unneeded, it just makes it so much stronger than it should be

[solid gate]

is the IS7 line easy?

[plucky summit]

I mean, it's a good hulldown for IS-3 and IS-7, the rest use high damage guns tier 7 and below

[solid gate]

poggers

so its a good line

[lyric copper]

good starter line

[raven jacinth]

Hmmm

[lyric copper]

M18 turret on T-55 chassis wat

[atomic vale]

Wtf

[slender cliff]

Looks like a sta

[fleet karma]

Should I get the T34? Is it worth the 10 bucks?

[drifting delta]

Idk

[terse sequoia]

Yep, but they have sold it for 500 gold more with a bunch of goodies

[fleet karma]

A buddy of my said I should wait for the shark

[terse sequoia]

If your gonna have the gold, he is giving the right advice

[fleet karma]

Alrighty I thought so lol

[terse sequoia]

It’s gonna range from 8.5k to 12.5k

[light blaze]

When will the TS-5 come out in the game?

[fleet karma]

Damn that's gonna hurt

[spare solar]

Just got it

[thorny smelt]

What's your review on VK 45.02 A (P)?

[spare solar]

Whats that again 😅

[thorny smelt]

The tier 8 heavy tank after Tiger P

[spare solar]

I dont remember since i sell tanks

[thorny smelt]

Yup. The VK 45.02 A. I added the P because it is made by Porsche, much like the Maus line

VK 72.01 K is made by the Krupp company. Hence the K suffix

[spare solar]

It's great for me i use it head on

Brawling

[thorny smelt]

I like mobile heavies so VK 45 maybe the right one for me. It is weaker in armor but I don't mind

[spare solar]

Weak? Oi i bounced a lot with it 😂 from opposing team with the same the lower plate can be pen

[violet timber]

VK45.02 A is a really bad heavium. It had an okay gun, no armor, and average mobility for a heavy

[thorny smelt]

VK 72.01 K also named as Pz. VII Schwere Lowe.

[thorny smelt]

You can say that it is bad . It all boils down to how you play the tank. You just need to get good at it.

[spare solar]

I get bounces if theres no premium bullets and my lower plate isnt shown

Td automatically pen

Well a couple of times i bounced a jag tiger besides that td was the main one that slaps me

[violet timber]

Mate, I played it well, it’s just in general a bad tank, even when played well

[thorny smelt]

It reminds me of a player who uses VK 45 and bounces shells like heck in I think the Rockfield map.

[spare solar]

Guess im a horrible player because i do well😂

[violet timber]

I love terrible tanks, such as the STA, and even I couldn’t get behind the 45.02 A

[thorny smelt]

I still love my Pz T-25 which is a trash tank to others LOL. I kept my premium tier 5 tanks in case I want to go for lower tier matches.

[violet timber]

I only do lower tiers for birthdays

[solid gate]

that vk 72 01 k is so hard to use..

[hard cedar]

Good player in a bad tank = still bad tank

[solid gate]

imagine u cant sidescrape and the round sides is a bad spots

[rigid thunder]

you need to just peek round corners using your hull in the vk72, sidescraping only harms you

[solid gate]

ohh hmm i kinda want to go there but i choose e100 line.. since they say its a hard tank to use

its a rare tank too so if someone uses it, its a unicum 😥

[hard cedar]

not nessecarily

[spare solar]

Damn yall find it hard to use vk72 😂

Its easy for me

I can't use the E100

[low rampart]

I'm still waiting for the day you change your name to STA-1 is bad, delete it pls

[violet timber]

You will never see my name change unless I get to veteran status, and even then I may change my in game name to STA-1_is_good just so I can keep it

[low rampart]

That's until I cast my spell on WG to make them nerf STA-1 into oblivion, you won't even see it.

[thorny smelt]

Meh. Only for you bud

[hard cedar]

No...that's not how it works.

[violet timber]

I’ll still play it. No one can stop me. It will forever be my favorite tier 8 medium.

[hard cedar]

You can't just say "oh look a good player is playing the tank it's a good tank now"
No. it's not. The player is good, the tank is not.
if that was how the game worked then nobody would recommend any tanks cuz they'd all be good
but ya know what
They're not

[rigid thunder]

A good player in a bad tank doesn't change the fact the tank is bad

[spare solar]

Idk any bad tanks just play in different styles

[violet timber]

I can give you a list of bad tanks.

[spare solar]

It will piss off people but oh well people complain on a lot of games for other people play style 😂

[hard cedar]

yes!

[rigid thunder]

is the sta-1 in it

[violet timber]

The STA-1 would happen to be on that list yes

[spare solar]

Vk types are now one of my favorite type of tanks

[violet timber]

Oh, it would just so happen that some VKs are on the list of bad tanks!

[hard cedar]

hmm let me guess
the vk 45 is on there??

[spare solar]

Too bad i dont view them bad on my end☕

[violet timber]

The VK45.02 and .03 as well as the VK30.02 D come to mind

[hard cedar]

that's your opinion

[spare solar]

True

I like them due to i can just fight people head on without peaking around corners etc

Side armour is pathetic tho

[hard cedar]

fight people head on in a 45.02? 🤨

[spare solar]

Si

[hard cedar]

wonder how that works the tank has no armor 🥴

[violet timber]

Answer: not very well

[spare solar]

It dont? I got a lot of bounces

Unlike the vk30

[violet timber]

The only starts that work with the 45.02 A are hull down occasionally and peek-a-boom

[hard cedar]

ngl im not sure how you're getting bounces the armor is paper

[spare solar]

I never peek around corners tho i just fought head on pushing people that got separated from their team

[violet timber]

The mantlet I assume as that’s the only true armored bit

[spare solar]

Going against a group the 45 died fast for me

Td automatically get one shotted by them rhm etc

[violet timber]

Makes sense when the only armor you have is the mantlet and side scraping at extreme angles

[spare solar]

The last two vk i directly fight groups as long theres no td or anyone with prem bullets

Mostly td

[hard cedar]

well against meds without prammo the armor is ok ig

[high anvil]

Finally done with M6 grind thanks to all the x3 and x5 certificates, do I go for Yoh or E5?

[hard cedar]

yoh

[violet timber]

Depends, do you like clippers or cyclic guns better?

[slender cliff]

E5

[high anvil]

Don't have many tier 10s yet. ik E5 is good all-rounder, hulldown meta and strong armor

[wise moth]

Well, in all honesty, the tier 9 and 10 yoh big guns act entirely like single shooter guns with a lot of alpha

[slender cliff]

You will survive much longer in an e5 than a yoh trust me.

[violet timber]

Yeah, but the line is more of a clipper line overall

[slender cliff]

Also it’s painfully easy to snipe a yohs cupolas when it is hull down. Overall the armor profile is lacking

[violet timber]

Debateable

[slender cliff]

Yes. And the second gun has abysmal dpm. I would rather go for the kranvagn line.

[plucky summit]

Have you heard of moving when hulldown?

[hard cedar]

you don't need dpm

[plucky summit]

Lol, complains about DPM, proceeds to rather play a lower DPM tank

[hard cedar]

true 🤣

[violet timber]

The yohs cupolas are rather thin, and when moving are quite hard to hit. Also the second gun has 900 clip potential, making up for the low dpm

[rigid thunder]

If you want dpm, the 105mm gun is always an option, though this only applies for the tier 10

[violet timber]

Also, 2.5k dpm isn’t really that low in all honesty

[slender cliff]

I didn’t complain. I’m just saying I would rather have the kranvagn since the turret is much more hard to penetrate. Having bad dpm on the yoh plus a turret with glaring weakspots isn’t a good option.

[slender cliff]

Lmao it’s so easy to hit the weakspots on the turret just use supercharger.
Even without isnt very hard

[plucky summit]

RNG still strikes you know

[violet timber]

You are over exaggerating the down sides to the yoh. The cupolas are thin and hard to hit when the tank is moving, and 2.5k dpm for the 900 clip potential in 1.7 seconds is monstrous. Also, what do you mean supercharger? The super speed boost? How does that help with accuracy?

[rigid thunder]

supercharger is the equipment that boosts shell velocity

[slender cliff]

Ofc it does. It’s still so shockingly easy to hit

[violet timber]

Ohhhh that, the piece of equipment that’s so useless I forgot it existed

[plucky summit]

I’ll show you how hard it actually is to hit :/

[rigid thunder]

shell velocity's more important than you might think for some tanks though

[hard cedar]

cough sp 1 c cough

[violet timber]

Aim time is more important though

[plucky summit]

Cough 183 cough

[slender cliff]

Because I have played in it and saw it’s weakspots. All the info you have is from its stats not actual gameplay.

[violet timber]

Mate, I’ve played with and against the yoh. I know it’s weak spots

[rigid thunder]

aim time is great and all, but for a tank like the 268 I take supercharger. Playing with 600 m/s shell velocity is a nightmare

[plucky summit]

Ah yes, a tank moving around when hulldown is from stats 🤷‍♂️

[slender cliff]

Sure I still don’t get why you didn’t know what super charger was 😆

[violet timber]

I also have an ace so I’d like to believe I know the tank pretty well

[bronze charm]

I just got 400k xp in two days

[violet timber]

Because, like I said before, I think supercharger is useless

[bronze charm]

Lol

[slender cliff]

I find it easy to hit those weak spots still if the tank is moving. Don’t know why you can’t

[slender cliff]

Decent stats

[plucky summit]

I don’t often engage them, I’ve hit them decently, but it takes a stroke of luck

Not many could pen me hulldown when I used it. It’s in a certain need of some nerf

[violet timber]

Could be better but I tried experimenting with the different guns and equipment layouts

[slender cliff]

All it takes is timing

[plucky summit]

And good RNG :|

[wise moth]

I wouldn't call the Yoh's cupolas easy to hit. Not impossible, but taking the time to aim for them, unless you're in a strong position, will result in you taking 900

[slender cliff]

Yes

[wise moth]

Also, supercharge is worthless on 99% of tanks

[plucky summit]

Nightmare bein that 1% y’all

No @zealous anchor

[zealous anchor]

Is it worth for 268

[hard cedar]

*sp1c being that 1%

[slender cliff]

Nah I find it really helpful with weakspots

[wise moth]

There's a case to be made for it on 268, but I think I'd still prefer GLD

[zealous anchor]

👍

[violet timber]

Supercharger is more of a crutch for aiming than getting something that gives you better rng

[wise moth]

GLD helps more because, ya know, it lets you aim quicker?

Supercharge is only helpful on tanks with abyssmal shell velocity

[hollow notch]

I am taking supercharge on basically any tank. There is a noticable difficulty in velocity.

[plucky summit]

Smooth brain 100

You wouldn’t dare use it on the Lowe

[slender cliff]

I usually get it on the third tier and supercharge on the second

[hollow notch]

M8 I use it on everything

[slender cliff]

Anytime anywhere

[wise moth]

Vert Stab and GLD do different things by the way @slender cliff

[violet timber]

I use enhanced tracks because why not lolololololol

[plucky summit]

You really can’t make 1.1k+ shell velocity work? Sounds like a you problem

[hollow notch]

Anytime I'm not using supercharge it feels like I have bad ping

Instant 500m shots with leo1? Yes please

[slender cliff]

Mm yeah true

[hard cedar]

leo 1 is already a laser

[wise moth]

You can feel a difference with supercharge, but there has basically never been a case where I've thought "man if I had more shell velocity I would've hit that shot"

On the flip side, the number of shells I've had bounce because my aim circle wasn't as tight as I would've liked it to be.... Well that's the majority of misses/bounces most people get

[slender cliff]

Damn apcr with supercharge

[wise moth]

500M shots are pretty rare. And the only time I've ever really had them is when sitting on climbs AND firing across the map shots

[slender cliff]

Yeah I agree

[hollow notch]

The gld doesn't really help all that much unless you sit and aim. Most of the time I'm just peek and yeeting

[plucky summit]

You don’t sit and aim?

[hollow notch]

That's just asking to take a shell in return

[wise moth]

GLD takes effect the moment your tank's velocity hits 0. That means it will still benefit any shot you take save for completely on the move shots

[plucky summit]

Not stopping when you shoot is asking to do no damage, also GL would be great for hulldown play

[hollow notch]

Yes, but going from forward to reverse with the only 0 being the switching of directions doesn't really make the gld all that useful for how I play

[wise moth]

Also, for the tanks that don't benefit as much from GLD (like top tier mediums), they benefit even LESS from supercharge (as they already have top tier shell velocity, and APDS/HEAT, which has little to no pen loss)

Really, it's not about GLD being amazing, it's more about supercharge being completely useless

[violet timber]

I knew there was a reason I forgot supercharge existed

[plucky summit]

GLD helps RNG, Supercharge helps the driver be more potato

[hollow notch]

I dunno. I just really like the feel the supercharge gives and the gld is useless to my playstyle

[wise moth]

GLD is never completely useless (unless you literally never let go of the W key). Sure the benefit may be marginal at times, but it's there

Superchage is almost always completely useless. That's the way you should look at it

[plucky summit]

The only supercharge situation other than terrible shell velocity is when the tank is about to escape a corner

[wise moth]

Yeah, but that situation is usually only an issue if your tank has terrible shell velocity

[plucky summit]

Yeah :3

Must use Supercharge on my Lowe’s 1.1k+ SV HE shells

[hollow notch]

Ofc

[violet timber]

Naturally

[slender cliff]

Tbh both equipment types depend on a players preference. If they want to have lower aimtime so be it. If they want to lol pen someone speeding across a map so be it.

[hollow notch]

Now then.

Track durability equipment is the only way to go

Hehehehe

[violet timber]

Tool box is useless. Enhanced Tracks are god tier.

[slender cliff]

Nahh

[wise moth]

They're about even really, although different tanks can benefit more from one or the other

[hollow notch]

Yup toolbox is useless. If I need something repaired quickly I'm slapping it with a repair kit. If the track doesn't break in the first place I don't have to bother with repairing it.

[plucky summit]

FT AC’e tracks already repair in like 3 seconds

[slender cliff]

So many things can happen like a broken turret or an engine. It’s not just tracks.

[hollow notch]

repair kit

[violet timber]

Nah couldn’t be

[hollow notch]

If a track doesn't break in the first place I have one more repair kit ready to go

Also, dont you love those times when you get set on fire and use a normal repair kit first?

[plucky summit]

Yeah xD

[slender cliff]

Sucks

[wise moth]

For me, my issue is the converse

It's when I get my commander or something killed by the same shot that also hit my track or something, so I hit the normal rep kit for the track first, only to realize I now have to waste my multi kit to heal the commander

[plucky summit]

I deal with both issues 😭

[violet timber]

You don’t need a commander

TCs are unnecessary

[wise moth]

Nah, commander is more important than people realize. Lacking in view range is actually really painful on a lot of tanks; on top of losing the 10% crew bonus he gives

And I play a lot of autoloaders, and on those, he's also the loader

[hollow notch]

I usually leave my commander dead until I have something else to repair with it

[violet timber]

Naaaah you don’t need him. He can sit in the corner slowly bleeding out

[hard cedar]

🤨

[stuck mantle]

Is Jackson as fun as the Hellcat?

[plucky summit]

No

[hollow notch]

cries

[wise moth]

No

[violet timber]

No, it’s more fun lolololololololol. Jk, hellcat is better

[wise moth]

After the constant rebalances, Jackson just gives up way too much just to be HE resistant on the hull.

[hollow notch]

On the front of the hull

[plucky summit]

It’s probably better that Hellcat can bait HE shots and force a splash with the tracks

[wise moth]

Looks like they buffed the sides so that they're 55mm nominal now, and not 25mm

[violet timber]

Hellcat also has so much mobility and is so small that HE really isn’t a problem

[plucky summit]

Hellcat ain’t that small

[hollow notch]

I'm interested to see how weegee is gonna try to balance the supercat

And 55mm is still kv2 food

[hard cedar]

simple: they won't

[wise moth]

Look no further than Blitzhangar

[hollow notch]

Wait it's up now?

[plucky summit]

Turns turret into a hull*

[wise moth]

Well, it was already live tested

[hard cedar]

tested by positive

[plucky summit]

Tested Positive ;)

[hard cedar]

😬

[plucky summit]

Tested by a reasonable professional player - Positive

[hollow notch]

Bruh.
I completely missed being able to judge it

[thorny smelt]

I never knew Kranvagn's ammo rack is so easy to locate

[violet timber]

It's basically the same as all clippers

[thorny smelt]

Behind the turret?

[violet timber]

Yup, the rear of the turret

[thorny smelt]

Well then RIP autoloaders. Gonna try that once I encounter an Emil I and spam shells behind the turret. I guess I'll use the Panther for fast reload time.

[violet timber]

Some also have them in the side of the hull right under the turret

[thorny smelt]

Like in case of Pz. IV Gargoyle? I get to ammo rack it on the side.

[violet timber]

Yup, this is also the case for pretty much every tank you come across

[wise moth]

Most tanks have ammo in the back of the turret; not just autoloaders.

Although, knowing that doesn't usually do much good, since the back of the turret is the single toughest spot to hit on a tank; as the turret can be traversed extremely quickly, because it also benefits from hull traverse

[violet timber]

Your best bet for an ammo rack is aiming right below the turret on the side of the hull

[thorny smelt]

I think that's also the case for KV-2. I shot it at the back of the turret and it is gone.

[robust quest]

some tanks, i think like the Centurion, have the ammo stowed in front of the turret

[wise moth]

No tank has ammo in the turret front

Cent has ammo in the front hull though....

[violet timber]

I think some have it in the sides of the turret, but not the front

[robust quest]

that's why I said in front OF the turret. not on THE front

[violet timber]

Could've used a little better wording there, but you are technically correct

[robust quest]

yeah that's fair. I couldn't think of the word for hull lol

[plucky summit]

Many like to say 'body' instead

[violet timber]

Ew, that's a disgusting term for the hull

[hazy ingot]

Does action X a good deal premium tank?

[violet timber]

Action X is pretty good, though I'd suggest the Shark over it

Also Weegee should add the M60A2 Starship

[rigid thunder]

If you're fine with having 190 alpha, the AX is a great tank

[slender cliff]

Guys does the added plates of armor on the superconqueror help protect against He and Hesh? Namely the sides

[violet timber]

It's mainly for HEAT, but yes, they are effective against HE and HESH

[slender cliff]

Alright sounds good, would you prefer it over the chieftain?

[violet timber]

It's mostly a matter of personal preference, but I like the Soup conq better. I do know that they are both competitive and it depends on your play style as to which you will enjoy more

[slender cliff]

Hmm aight I’ll see if I can test both

[violet timber]

Just know that both are hull down heavies

[slender cliff]

Yeah I’m really bent to the sconq since the armor profile looks really solid and the chieftain because of the gun and mobility. I’m just having trouble deciding which attributes would be more effective in a standard battle.

[violet timber]

It really depends on your play style, though imo the chieftain has more carry potential

[slender cliff]

Ok good to know

[violet timber]

Just keep in mind I have about 5 times more games in the soup conq than the Chieftain

[slender cliff]

Ah ok

[fleet karma]

Would the Turtle Mk. 1 be op if it had a armor and a speed buff?

[violet timber]

Yes. It had better armor in testing that made it nearly invulnerable. Where it's at right now actually isn't too bad

[fleet karma]

Bc I have it and my lower plate and cupula are always pend and it's really annoying lol

All the YouTubers hate it and call it garbage lol

[violet timber]

Welcome to a balanced tier 8 premium. They are few and far between. It may be a bit underpowered, but at least it's not broken.

[fleet karma]

Yeah like the goddam Annihilator, I want it to go away for ever and never be spoken of again 😂

I think Turtle needs at least a speed buff, armor is whatever but it needs a buff

[violet timber]

The armor could use a little touch up, but overall it's a balanced tier 8, instantly making it bad

[static harness]

WoTB 2021 be like:

[fleet karma]

Lmao right, if either the armor or the speed was buffed it would be such a great vehicle

[violet timber]

Or, just nerf tier 8 and make everything balanced

[static harness]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-lateralus-parabol-third-eye-tool-gif-16499016

[mighty tinsel]

Ok guys, since I can research the AMX 50 120 tomorrow with its top gun, do you have any advice on how to play it?

[delicate dock]

Don't be on the frontlines and don't commit too much to one flank. You can float around the map and find opportunities to clear a target with your big clip potential. You can also easily trade with enemies by dumping your entire clip into them and taking 1-2 shots yourself. Essentially just play like an opportunist/assassin and of course watch YouTube guides. HisRoyalFatness did an AMX 50B line showcase a few days ago so I would recommend watching that. @mighty tinsel