vehicles-discussion

[plucky summit]

I did Action X + AMX 50 100
Constant DPM + a clip against pushes

[terse sequoia]

Don’t underestimate the 50 100. It’s stronger if no one pays mine to it,

[thorny smelt]

I pay $4.99 a month depending whether the battle pass tank is good or not.

[hard cedar]

emil does the same thing but with armor

[terse sequoia]

50 kmh? Good dpm?

[thorny smelt]

I used to be a French main kind of player because of BDR G1 B and ARL44 until AMX M4 45 came along and it slowly died down because of weak armor.

[terse sequoia]

Emil doesn’t have armor using prammo. 50 100 doesn’t have the issue of relying on armor.

[hard cedar]

emil has armor using prammo, and they have virtually the same dpm except emil clip gets 30 more alpha

[gentle wasp]

If you have 280 prammo then sure. For the majority of tanks that don’t, it’s still going to have armor

[terse sequoia]

Not really, no matter where they are I can pen them.

[hard cedar]

280 prammo is rare at t8

[terse sequoia]

50 100 shreds mediums and isn’t meant to be played as a traditional heavy

Emil 1 is overrated imo

[gentle wasp]

And something like 250 even if they are brain dead enough to sit out on flat ground
@terse sequoia if the 50 100 shreds meds, what does the Emil do to the poor things?

[terse sequoia]

Gets circled…. Emil is slow

[hard cedar]

meds cant do anything to a hulldown emil but they can wreck a 50 100 (in terms of dealing damage to them)

[gentle wasp]

^
@terse sequoia super speed boost

[terse sequoia]

Super speed boost for 15 seconds.

[gentle wasp]

Which is more than enough to prevent getting circled or get back into a good position. Bleeding HP isn’t really an issue either

[terse sequoia]

I personally don’t see why people are salivating over it still. Just like the Action X

[hard cedar]

because it's got insane clip potential and insane armor?

[gentle wasp]

I agree with the AX but the Emil is legit

[terse sequoia]

Insane armor is a over statement, it’s good, but not insane

[gentle wasp]

It’s insane for the gun and situational mobility it has

[terse sequoia]

Wait until it gets powercrept a year from now.

I still main the T34 and shred emil’s

[gentle wasp]

Everything gets powercrept, it’s just a matter of how much

“I killed it so it must be bad” is a weak argument

[hard cedar]

well yeah bc t34 has good pen
most tanks don't

[plucky summit]

T34 is at the top of the heavies for the gun

[terse sequoia]

T34 is stronk

[hard cedar]

and if the emil gets powercrept then everyone will just talk about how broken the tank doing the powercreeping is

[thorny smelt]

I found this on Wiki (unreliable site for me as a researcher in natural sciences):

The AMX 50, as originally planned, would have been a medium rather than a heavy tank, France being the first of the tank-producing nations to abandon the heavy tank class.

[plucky summit]

Honestly it is a medium

[gentle wasp]

Loosely relevant to the convo, I’m not denying that the 50 100 is more medium than heavy. However, that’s not really a good thing.

[thorny smelt]

And should be played like a medium tank

[plucky summit]

Yes, but it still has the limitations, and sometimes that of a light tank for the armor

You could think of it as a big, slower batchat with a longer reload

[valid gale]

Bigger loraine with slightly better gun and no armor*

[terse sequoia]

Lorraine. :)))

[gentle wasp]

Lorraine has no armor, I think you mean a little more armor

[plucky summit]

Emil may be able to get circled, but this is a team game, if Emil sticks to some of its team, circling it is not a good possibility for the Emil’s opponents. AMX 50 100 may be able to fire back, but in the heavy support, it won’t often have enough power to counter it

[thorny smelt]

Even the Kranvagn tanks (Wiki again....)

The initial design, in 1951, proposed mounting a 10.5 cm autoloader in an oscillating turret. Due to its size, weight and power to weight it was considered by many to be more of a medium tank than a heavy tank.

But I would say that Kranvagn tanks are quite good as a heavy tank in terms of armor specifications, at least in this game.

[plucky summit]

This is why we don’t judge tanks mostly on class, we use the stats, like armor, and manueverability

I care not what it was intended to be, but what it turned out to be… in Blitz

[terse sequoia]

Why are we even comparing the two in the first place. The only thing they have in common is the clip, that’s it.

Wargaming is real good at classifying their tanks though…

[plucky summit]

Good, but not perfect

I’m jus sayin Emil I is still OP

[terse sequoia]

It’s a great tank, I still wouldn’t go as far as to call it OP anymore.

[thorny smelt]

That's why having a companion for the autoloading heavies is quite helpful because of the long reload time unlike other heavies with multiple clips or single-shooters.

[plucky summit]

That implies that a tier where all of the tanks are great exists, hence my concern with balance

[solid gate]

It is when hulldown

[plucky summit]

Especially in true balance, it’s OP

I bet Emil I will be the second top heavy in the dev charts when 8.0 comes out (unicum grind through M-III-Yoh takes first)

[thorny smelt]

It is better to have a companion than going solo unless you can do it yourself with more damage dealt to the enemy and less HP is depleted to yourself. Teamwork is always a good thing even when you split to two groups of even distribution.

[plucky summit]

I know but because of common heavies to play like a medium risks your team’s support, and they often support heavies instead

[thorny smelt]

My concern with the Yoh tanks is the hull itself. Does this flaw carried over from M-VII-Yoh down to the succeeding tanks?

[thorny smelt]

I usually go to the heavy side as a support. I hate rushing unless it is a heavy tank that go frontline.

[plucky summit]

I gtg for now, and to answer basically, yes, though M-V’s hull is small and strong

[hard cedar]

its a hulldown tank you shouldn't be showing your hull most of the time

[thorny smelt]

Oh alright. It's still painful for me to play the M-VII-Yoh

[hard cedar]

yeah it's probably the worst tank in the line

[thorny smelt]

Gonna sell this tank once I get my hands on the M-III-Yoh

[hard cedar]

i always sell tech tree tanks when I get the next one unless they're special

[thorny smelt]

T-29 will stay in my garage along with T1 Heavy and M6

[hard cedar]

yeah t29 is good

[thorny smelt]

I even sold my Pz. IV Gargoyle again because I don't feel like playing it.

[hard cedar]

im just keeping mine in my garage for now I rarely play it

[thorny smelt]

I still have that Pz. T-25 just in case when I feel to play tier 5. My Matilda BP is slowly collecting dust.

[hard cedar]

I only sell vehicles if I don't play em and i need credits and i feel too lazy to grind them

[thorny smelt]

Me too. These two tanks I mentioned were from free crates which is quite lucky of me.

I think my T-34 is sold but KV-1 is still in my garage.

[hard cedar]

i only play low tiers when im clubbing for a mastery badge mission so I sold most of my low tiers

[thorny smelt]

I never thought that my Matilda BP has 3 Ace Tank Mastery.

[hard cedar]

idk I don't think that many people play it so it's probably easier to ace ? dunno

[surreal blade]

It's no very easy to Ace. Got 2k something in it and it was a first class guess. But it's a rlly stronk tonk

[hard cedar]

dunno

[thorny smelt]

Probably. It is a relatively deadly medium tank because it spams shells like a mad person.

[hard cedar]

indeed

[thorny smelt]

I miss playing this tank. I might play it on some other time because Pz. T-25 is my go to tier 5 tank.

[hard cedar]

play tanks if you think they're fun dont just grind 24/7

[thorny smelt]

More like for Mastery or credit grinding. KV-5 credits are quite high which is good despite being a meh tank.

[solid gate]

Ahem "meh tank" wrongits acctually pretty good

[hard cedar]

ahem i dont think so

[onyx sluice]

Emil is far from OP, other than a strong turret it has no armor. Has avarage at best mobility and can easily be rushed in its 22 second interclip.

Even that turret is only strong directly front on and TDs can still pen it with gold.

[thorny smelt]

This reminds me of a match in Fort Despair. The enemy Emil I is just camping at one of the ruined buildings, and the front of hull is completely exposed from underneath the tank when I flanked.

[onyx sluice]

Emil is the easiest heavy to counter at tier 8 IMO, even while playing tier 7s. I much more dread facing Tiger IIs and KV-4s.

[thorny smelt]

I was playing with Leo at that time and Emil I is the only one left in the enemy team.

[rocky oxide]

Which is the best tank for destroying devs

[tepid geyser]

bruh

[drowsy sparrow]

FV215b 183?

[rocky oxide]

I need that 1k gold

[drowsy sparrow]

Me relize that i don't have tier 10 and just have tier 8 Tiger be like: i can't destroy the DEV with this tank

[median tree]

Just tunnel, simple

[acoustic ginkgo]

Which tds line i should go for ?
1 fv 183
2 fv4005
3 obj 268

[frigid quest]

268 no doubt, 4005 needs skill, dont even think about the 183 given how pain the grind is and how rare these hesh shots are

[median tree]

Obj

[acoustic ginkgo]

Wdym no doubt ?

[frigid quest]

4005 line needs skill, 183 line is the worst in the game

[acoustic ginkgo]

Thanks

[acoustic ginkgo]

But what does doubt mean ???
I still dont understand :/

[thorny smelt]

Doubt=question

[acoustic ginkgo]

Oh

[thorny smelt]

Just a bit rusty and rough on the synonyms and such. English is not my first language.

[solemn sun]

Questioning if something's better or worse.
Something in that way

[acoustic ginkgo]

Oh

[balmy wagon]

Emil 1? "Far from OP" ah yes, i mean typical hulldown tank doesn't has great armor besides it's turret.
Do you know how pre-nerf emil 1 performs?

[onyx sluice]

Just because a tank in perfect conditions can perform well dosen't mean its OP. Countering hull down tanks is simple.

FYI you almost never get those perfect conditions in actual games anyways.

[sacred trail]

The 183 line is arguably one of the hardest to play with it’s moderately low penetration and mobility, but if you can pull off being a frontline bunker long enough, then you can get the 183. On a good round with proper crew preparations, the dispersion is moderately small at best, and the size of the British Empire at worst. Top that off with bad mobility and thin Tier 10 armor, and that’s why most people aren’t the biggest fans of the 183. If you can get around those setbacks, though, the alpha is the highest in the game

[strange thicket]

Can guarantee you that you are extremely wrong.

[rigid thunder]

can second this

[median tree]

no.

[mental fractal]

Chieftain= not worth it tbh

[rigid thunder]

if ur a bad player? Yes the chieftain is terrible. If ur not? It's an amazing tank

[hot canopy]

agree, @mental fractal gimme the chief instead

[mental fractal]

Y5 ELC bis is godly

[gentle wasp]

hardly

[mental fractal]

Its legit just a Kunze Panzer

[rigid thunder]

Y5 ELC is pretty much an inferior T23E3

[balmy wagon]

Can you explain why post-nerf emil 1 still on the most top performed heavy tank in tier 8?

[maiden nexus]

Balance.

[gentle wasp]

A much worse one sure

[maiden nexus]

Less speed, camo, and it's a medium

[onyx sluice]

Because it's a strong tank. There is a difference between being strong and being OP.

Imagine my shock, the opinion that people shouldn't expect to be able to penetrate a hull down heavy frontally is an unpopular opinion lol.

[balmy wagon]

It's used to be OP back then when it had it's mobility, but now that tank still workable in any scenario, besides you compared it with Tiger 2 and Kv4

[onyx sluice]

Tiger 2 is impossible to penetrate even on level ground without gold, Emil most definitely can be.

[balmy wagon]

Indeed, and when you give an example with TD gold, you're dumb

[gentle wasp]

what is this reasoning

[rigid thunder]

.....what kind of guns are you shooting at the tiger 2? Comet?

[balmy wagon]

What? I'm out

[onyx sluice]

No, my Tiger 1 and Tiger P or the IS-2. Even my Emil can't pen it.

[rigid thunder]

tiger 2 armour works against standard rounds and low tier gold. Equal tier gold or higher tier AP will pen it all day

[gentle wasp]

So much better guys

[onyx sluice]

That is what my said though?

[gentle wasp]

also the whole point of the Emil is to abuse ridgelines, which the Tiger can't do nearly as well

[rigid thunder]

Oml those are tier 7s...... you said the tiger was impossible to pen on level ground without gold. What about tier 9s

[onyx sluice]

I assumed we're talking equal tiers.

[gentle wasp]

name a tank that can pen the Emil with standard but not the Tiger

[rigid thunder]

If we're talking equal tier, sure. Except the emil has a better upper plate and turret than the tiger

[onyx sluice]

The Emil has one specialty, so because the Tiger is worse than it so it is OP? Lol.

[rigid thunder]

it has one speciality? The emil doesn't just have one speciality lmao

[gentle wasp]

I've stated one strength and you've yet to prove your point. The Tiger armor is better on flat ground because... you say so?
Also I never said it was OP

[onyx sluice]

The Emil also has a weaker lower plate, sides and rear.

[gentle wasp]

I'm beginning to realize why people complain about the asia playerbase so much

[fleet karma]

Sides and the back of the Emil's turret especially with hesh

[rigid thunder]

1. OP engine boost allows u to take positions very fast, and reposition fast. Especially important for a heavy
2. High clip potential and good turret armour allows you to clip enemy tanks better than every other tank in your tier
3. 2k DPM is NOT bad for an autoloader
4. The hull armour is extremely good, and even when you're caught off a ridgeline, it will work very well
5. It's small and hard to hit

[onyx sluice]

How many players actually use the engine boost though?

[rigid thunder]

what the oh my god how is that the tank's fault??

[gentle wasp]

just saw someone drive out sideways in the annihilator, must be a bad tank

[rigid thunder]

Someone runs normal engine boost on E5, guess it's bad

[gentle wasp]

it's to save credits smh my head
that's why you run AP only 183, for peak profitability

[rigid thunder]

but engine boost is more expensive than a repair kit

[gentle wasp]

who says I'm using repair kits

[onyx sluice]

This comparison dosen't include the much weaker side and rear armor of Emil.

[balmy wagon]

Bring 3 shells only

[gentle wasp]

again, you're acting like it's the tank's fault when you expose those parts of the tank
the consumables are part of the tank mate

[onyx sluice]

Never said that but we're comparing tanks, not consumables.

[balmy wagon]

I mean who the hell even play emil on flat ground....

[rigid thunder]

consumables make part of the tank. If the improved engine boost was not available on the kran line, T110E5 line, they'd all be mediocre

[gentle wasp]

^^^
you're struggling to prove your point and this is the Tiger's strength lol
hulldown emil moment
@onyx sluice oooh sides and rear so scary

[onyx sluice]

I'm acting like Tiger II has much better armor which is true.

[rigid thunder]

it has much better armour when you drive into the open field without a care in the world, yes.

[gentle wasp]

you can't legitimately think side and rear armor is better than front armor that actually performs well on inclines

[rigid thunder]

however, in MOST scenarios you end up in, the emil 1 has a better armour profile simply because it can put itself into those scenarios so easily

[balmy wagon]

He's just biased by Tiger II, no doubt.

He was compared emil turret with Td's gold kekw

[gentle wasp]

🤔

[rigid thunder]

the tiger 2 can at most peek corners to give ur front plate like +10mm more effective armour? The emil hull down has a 300mm effective turret

[onyx sluice]

When T49s circle you or a ISU gets a shot at your exposed ammo rack side armor definitely matters.

[gentle wasp]

look at that it seems like the emil is still better on flat ground. want to accept facts or continue being delusional?
@onyx sluice and that can't happen to the Tiger II? very prominent ammo rack on that thing's side as well

[rigid thunder]

When a T49 circles you and when an ISU shoots you.... my guy that's what you call making a mistake

don't blame ur mistakes on the tank, the emil 1 is not foolproof, unlike the tiger 2

[gentle wasp]

well it appears he chose door two. sad.

[onyx sluice]

That's my point, Tiger II is better all around.

[rigid thunder]

if your point was that the tiger 2 is better for bad players, then I concede. Thing is, people don't normally measure a tank's effectiveness on how well a bad player performs in one, so if I misunderstood then my bad

[balmy wagon]

If you say so, Hulldown emil 1 can forgives your dumbness against 60% playerbase, meanwhile hulldown or Tiger 2 on flat ground won't

[onyx sluice]

Let me repeat, my point is that Emil needs to be played hull down and you need to be a decent player. Tiger II while is almost nub-proof.

[gentle wasp]

it doesn't even need to be hulldown
as I just showed you and you seem to completely ignore any reason

[onyx sluice]

Resorting to manipulating angels is a bad thing.

[balmy wagon]

Imagine said that when you said this earlier

[gentle wasp]

I didn't change the angle at all. try again
I didn't manipulate any angels either, just so we are clear

[rigid thunder]

calibrated shells

[gentle wasp]

winner

[onyx sluice]

My screenshot is with calibrated too.

[gentle wasp]

it's clearly not

[rigid thunder]

uh no, it's not.

[onyx sluice]

Okay, my bad.

This is what the Emil looks like with calibrated however.

[gentle wasp]

now you're manipulating angles
that's pretty clearly shooting down and a bit angled on the turret

[onyx sluice]

Nope, it's exactly 0 degrees.

Here, the app shows as much.

[rigid thunder]

Ur looking down on the tank...

[onyx sluice]

It shows 0 degrees, I didn't change anything.

[gentle wasp]

no not horizontal (even though it looks like you turned the turret a bit)
vertical movement

[onyx sluice]

Wait, I'll try it again. Same position for both Emil and Tiger.

[gentle wasp]

I used the default front orientation from the app. no room for human error.

[balmy wagon]

#devs-answers OMG how can even Emil 1 has better winrate and average damage than Tiger II??

[onyx sluice]

Emil and Tiger facing each other at 50 meters using calibrated shells and default front orientation.

[balmy wagon]

Why the emil didn't use calibrated?

[onyx sluice]

(I personally don't, it was a mistake sorry)

[balmy wagon]

Personally don't what

[onyx sluice]

Use calibrated on Emil, that is why it was off during the comparison.

[gentle wasp]

Lol

[balmy wagon]

This isn't WoT PC my guy, vent does nothing on blitz

[balmy wagon]

Why the hell he didn't use calibrated on autoloader?

[gentle wasp]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[onyx sluice]

I just assumed it will be better to get the boost to tank stats that vents give and use gold for penetration. I used the same setup on all the previous tanks I purchased.

[balmy wagon]

good, even view range that vent give doesn't have much advantage on blitz

Pointless to use vent on blitz my guy

[onyx sluice]

Hmm.. I'll give calibrated a try on Emil.

[runic crypt]

Hey guys. What equipment did you use on IS-4? Just got it few days ago and seemed I cannot excel it like ST-1.

[kindred wren]

Vent op, crew makes all the difference

Once you ground enough crews you learn to appreciate the difference even 1% of crew training can make

[balmy wagon]

Calibrated better, it doesn't give much effect as on WoT PC does.
Somehow more pen give you much advantage to not poke for long time

[kindred wren]

Ventilation (the base form) does exactly the same thing on PC as in Blitz

[thorny smelt]

This would be nice as the stock ARL 44 like what it is in WoT PC but the barn turret is still popular for memes.

[drowsy sparrow]

Yes 20k more XP to get E75

[balmy wagon]

@kindred wren you even get spotted by hts on every scenario except you far away on bush, blitz map way smaller than pc

[rigid thunder]

It does, but PC has much broader crew skills. BiA, situational awareness, recon, snap shot, smooth ride, etc. These all get affected by vents iirc

[rigid star]

Nerf annhilator and smasher

[balmy wagon]

I hope so

[lyric copper]

run CS if you wanna tryhard, with GLD and VStabs

[solid gate]

is ISU-152 good with the tier X gun?

[graceful beacon]

It's complitely op yes

[manic carbon]

Yes you want to be using that gun

[lyric copper]

using any other gun than the BL-10 on the ISU is heresy

[solid gate]

bro just did 3 battles with the d-25 and did 3000 damage

First battle...Ngl this tank is not that bad

[brave kiln]

:(

[gritty yarrow]

Worth it or not???

[violet timber]

Ehhh, you can get tanks like the T34 for the same price

[gritty yarrow]

oke

So not worth?

[violet timber]

Probably not unless you like tier 8 90mm clones

[gritty yarrow]

Oke thanks for info

[mental fractal]

I hated grinding out the E 75 for the E 100... but not because it is a bad tank but because out of my 150 or more battles... more than 130 of them were against tier 10

Overall its a good tank in an even match up

where its all tier 9

[grave urchin]

Guys, i have just researched AT7, shall i continue on the same tanks?

[mental fractal]

No that line is awful

[grave urchin]

oh ok

well, i guess i will continue on this line, because i want to research fvb 183

even if AT15 is such horrible 😑

[thick trout]

The 183 will disappoint you and will not be worth it

[past crane]

Actually the AT 15 is doing quite well rn after the buff. It’s really the Tortoise that is hard to play, and the 183 sucks unless you like alpha. I say go for it, but don’t focus on the line too much.

[safe crater]

keep and enrich the AT 15, you get the Turtle MK I, without getting called a p2w

[past crane]

Tbf the AT and Turtle are very different vehicles but yeah the AT is a gud tenk.

[grave urchin]

ok guys, thx very much for the advices

[safe crater]

yeah, I just dislike the fact when you drive the turtle and win, you get called a p2w loser

but drive an enriched AT 15, they can't say anything

[grave urchin]

indeed

[fluid parrot]

finally got my 9th tier X tank

[solid gate]

gg

[runic crypt]

thanks for the answer bro

[lyric copper]

turtle isn’t even p2w

[safe crater]

some 50%ers and below think that way, I drive the worst prems known in the game and people still call it p2w when I carry

[lyric copper]

premium tank ≠ p2w lol

[safe crater]

yeahhh... my inbox begs to differ

[safe crater]

Just imagine soloing the enemy team in a Tankenstein, a tank with 25ish kp/h, get called a p2w loser

a tank with 1700ish dpm, ditched the tank, it's sitting in my garage crying as annihilators come out in droves wrecking everyone trying to research T6-8

[broken turtle]

to me kunze is just a bit better t20. Those tanks's stats literally same
kunze is somewhere hard to get as u must do avg 2k3 dmg in 70 games (in a row)
and t20 is much enjoyable

[plucky summit]

2450 ._.

[worldly rune]

Can you make Swedish TD

[void tulip]

And thus Wargaming added the strv 103 on the tech tree

[meager spindle]

the Sheridan's should get missiles back, if they makes the things have a height limit, they couldn't go over rocks, after that make them slow to turn, as in real life they wouldn't turn as fast as they do when they were in the game (but saying the game should be realistic is like telling a toddler to be a man), second, the shillelagh missile took 15 seconds to reload due to particles in the cannon barrel needs to be shot out before loading the next missiles, so 15 seconds for barrel cleaning then 13.5 seconds (my Sheridan reload) for the missile to then be ready to fire again as noted in the

great book of tanks - The caseless rounds needed air vents to clear the gun tube and breech prior to loading another round, while the M48 breech block opened as the used shell was ejected and closed as the new shell was shoved in. The faster the loader, the faster the Patton's gun could be fired. For the Sheridan, the loader had to wait for the mechanism. After firing, the loader would have to wait, as the breech slowly opened rearward then turned downward. After another instrument indicated that all turret systems were still operational, the loader would gently push the 152mm fixed round into the breech and watch the breech block slowly rotate upward, then forward into the breech, then again, wait for the lights

[short mirage]

Make flying tank s

[meager spindle]

Humour

[hollow moth]

That's ARL-44 AC-1, it's on WT so it's realistic

[late wyvern]

We need 60tp

[hollow moth]

Yes. I want to listen Moj Karabin while playing wotb!

[sour cosmos]

Can we talk about the anni and the smasher?

[slate chasm]

Need a buff!

[sour cosmos]

Lol no 😂😂

[neat cobalt]

is the bat chat worth it?

[hollow moth]

Well, it demands kind of skill to be played, It's not worth for newbies.

[daring relic]

So can anyone answer this question, or if they have the Obj. 260 answer this at least.

I’ve had the Obj. 260 for now 80 games (5-6 days) and have achieved 15 golden masteries. I have no received the Pike legendary camo for the tank. Has this happened for anyone else?

Ping me if you have an answer, I’m curious and would like the camo...

[quick thicket]

You were suppose to get an offer after the first game I believe, so you probably missed it @daring relic

[daring relic]

I never got the camo offer, that’s the thing

[quick thicket]

Then it’s a bug? Honestly idk

[daring relic]

Idk, should I ping a dev here or fill out a ticket?

[hard cedar]

don't ping make a ticket ig idk

[daring relic]

Alright, I’ve been sitting here for the last week like: “So um, when am I gonna get this offer?”

Ticket submitted 👍 hopefully I get the offer soon

[neat cobalt]

anyone with french light tank tips?

[quick thicket]

Always retreat and surrender whenever you can @neat cobalt

[neat cobalt]

thanks

12t is very different from elc

[neat cobalt]

what do you mean by surrender tho

[hard cedar]

he was joking

[neat cobalt]

oh

then what should i do

[hard cedar]

spot at the beginning and play as a support tank

[neat cobalt]

ty

[surreal blade]

Do not go on 1v1s with high dpm enemy lights or mediums. They will annihilate u

[neat cobalt]

k thx

[cold jackal]

Is the E25 crewed by midgets? Don't see how any normal person can sit in that.

[solid gate]

Hey guys, I should be able to buy the is5 via the clan supply of my clan right?

The ‘buy’ button doesnt show up, and yes the supply level of my clan is 10, so is my personal level

[calm drum]

CuddlingTony😰🤚#0925 has been warned.

CuddlingTony😰🤚#0925 was softbanned

[solid gate]

Don’t do it again

[calm drum]

CuddlingTony😰🤚#0925 was banned

[verbal nebula]

Rip 😁

[verbal nebula]

You need to have that level of clan supply your self to be able to buy that tonk 🤞😌

"personal access" @solid gate

[hard cedar]

its bugged

[verbal nebula]

yep... I can´t buy it either

[solid gate]

I should grind;
Grille 15 or Jagdpanzer E-100?

[hollow moth]

Depends of 2 little factors.

• Do you prefer precision and DPM or armor and alpha?
• Are you a new player or already experienced?

I always the Jagdpanzer E100 line for new players because it's easy to play, simple, consistent and powerful. Grille 15 can be a pain because it lacks of armor, have poor transverse, poor reverse, meh concealment and no 360 degrees turret.

But if you like glass cannons, snipers and long range support, Grille is for you.

[hard cedar]

I thought the jag was pretty meh

[violet timber]

The jag is pretty good as long as you can angle

[sacred trail]

Grille also has a considerably low dispersion at max crew and a working gun

[solid gate]

Somewhat experienced(specially in TD).
Maybe I will pick Jagdpanzer E-100, and after it Grille

[thorny smelt]

I don't know if it is just me but driving a stock Emil I is faster than Churchill despite both of them have average speed of 20 kmph. @.@

[valid gale]

Emil 1 is faster despite having a sub 400 horse power engine with the armor and gun it has

[plucky summit]

Smol = OP weight

[sacred trail]

Is the Ferdinand a reasonable purchase to go for the Jagdpanzer E 100 since I already researched it through the Tiger P, or should I just buy the Jagdpanther and roll with it?

[normal lodge]

should i get the t29 or the Vii-Yoh

i heard the t29 is good but i feel like the III-Yoh is also good

[green smelt]

T-34-85 Rudy is best T-34

change my mind

[normal lodge]

so t29?

[normal lodge]

i feel like the M-III-Yoh and the M-V-Yoh would be good because of the 3 bullet gun but people are saying to get the t29

[jovial cedar]

Should I get the Maus

[errant plume]

which line should i go as for my 1st teir X tank

[sacred trail]

Maus is the most “competitive” of the German tech tree heavies because it has the most armor and HP in the game, but only has the 12,8 cm gun for 460 alpha AP damage

E 100 is second behind with slightly thinner armor (but not by much) and 300 less HP, but it has a researchable 15 cm gun to deal 640 alpha AP damage

VK 72.01 K has a rounded turret, concentrated armor in the front, has the 15 cm gun found on the E 100 directly from the purchase, but it lacks significant armor on the sides and back of both the hull and turret compared to its other tier 10 counterparts. The tanks that lead up to it are claimed to be slow and slightly underarmored, especially the VK 45.02 A, which is claimed to essentially be a glorified Panther II with a bit more armor and HP

[jovial cedar]

Ok thx

[sacred trail]

Those are just for the heavies for Germany. For the mediums and TDs, there are other opinions on those

[jovial cedar]

Mhm

[valid gale]

Maus is not exactly the most “comp” while it’s a moving wall e100 is more versatile and mobile and can still do damage without penetrating

[sacred trail]

For the TDs, Jageroo has the 17 cm gun with 800 AP alpha, the armor profile of the E 100, and 2000 HP, but is significantly slower than the Grille 15 and has low concealment

The Grille 15 has a pseudo-turret that can rotate 45-50 degrees (I forgot what it actually is, help) for further gun traverse without taking concealment penalties, a 15 cm gun that has super-low dispersion, and high concealment, but has practically no armor and leaves your commander and gunner exposed in the back. Get 🅱️ESH’d by the 183 and it’s lights out for you unless you stop it with your super-long gun (and yes, it is possible to 🅱️lock the 183’s 🅱️ESH with your gun for no damage except for breaking the gun for a few seconds) or equip Spall Liner

[solid gate]

I think you should go for T29

[normal lodge]

yeah im still thinking which to go

[storm robin]

Go for the E5 line first, it’s highly likely that the Yohs will see nerfs later on

[vague canopy]

yeah cannot go wrong with e5 as first heavy

[gilded crystal]

Bring back the tanks of 5.5 to tech tree so game can be fixed

so we dont have noobs playing at tier 7-8 anymore

Thx to who disliked they are legends.

[hard nexus]

thing is, you dont learn anything at low tiers. tier 6 upwards you can actually get a grasp on the game. 1-5 just teaches you how to move and shoot

[gilded crystal]

yeah thats why I see people with 0 damage at tier 10 right?

[vivid rapids]

Ok

[hard nexus]

there are people that are learning, and there are people that dont learn. not everyone will learn as quickly as others. a one off where there is a 0 damage result is not an accurate measure, of thousands of battles

[vivid rapids]

ok

[cold jackal]

Who wants the Rhino in Blitz?

[vivid rapids]

me

idk the cooldown is soooooooo long

[waxen yacht]

I want the sturmtiger lol

Actually I think the superheavys are obsolete because of gold ammo

[sick dagger]

121b is worth to buy?

[rough harness]

both are good, one has op turret armor for t7 and one has autoloader and 3 shot but not as good as t29 turret armor

[rough harness]

get the Supermarine T
its like a sturmtiger but even thiccer lol

[glad ridge]

No. WZ-121 is better than 121b because wz-121 has more alpha dmg and more dpm.

[waxen yacht]

Lol

[pale plank]

Am I aloud to share a video about tanks here? 🤨

Oh well, if I get in trouble idk what to do, sorry if it’s a rule.

[pine moss]

@brisk crown hi i’m sorry for calling you stupid. I was just too caught up i’m my emotions. i saw Dream lose hunter vs speedrumner 😔

[brisk crown]

😔 all good bro

[compact ridge]

what should I research fist in the Leo PTA? The engine or the gun?

[thorny smelt]

I would say the gun

[compact ridge]

Alright then.

[thorny smelt]

2nd priority would be the engine.

[hard cedar]

Always the gun

[runic crypt]

Hey guys. Im just wondering, how long it takes to grind a line from tier 1 - 10?

[thorny smelt]

Months if you go for a single line

[compact ridge]

If you go crazy in summer holidays, you might be able to do it under a month

[runic crypt]

I see, just got my first tier 10 early this week. I would like to venture another line. Thanks for your response.

[hard cedar]

it doesn't take months, you can get one in just a couple weeks

[runic crypt]

A month eh? Okay, I'll give it a try then. Thanks

[solid gate]

Who know promotion codes?

[hard cedar]

It's actually quite easy if you have boosters

[runic crypt]

Thanks, any line you recommend?

[hard cedar]

depends on what you're looking for in a line

[runic crypt]

7HAPPY7777
I got 3 days premium from the code

[solid gate]

Ok thx

I recommend line to ob 268

[compact ridge]

what's your playstyle?

[runic crypt]

I don't have anything specific at the moment.
Maybe a noob friendly tank ( except Russian)

[hard cedar]

well a lot of the noob friendly tanks are russian lol

[compact ridge]

yeah

[solid gate]

There is another code :7WOT7BLITZ7 that give 7k free xp

[runic crypt]

Sometimes I'm good with HT, holding the line while waiting for my MT/LT to flank.

And I'm a little bit good with turret less TD with trollish front armor.

[compact ridge]

E100 line very friendly

[runic crypt]

🤣

[hard cedar]

why don't you want a russian tank 🤨

[compact ridge]

Russian bias OP

[runic crypt]

I dont really know, maybe I've got too much Russian tanks at the moment.

Just want to give another line to try.

[hard cedar]

well then yeah just get e100 ig

[runic crypt]

I agree with this, OP if you know how

[runic crypt]

Alrite then, thanks ya.

[hard cedar]

np

[solid gate]

I have personal supply level 10, the clan supply is also 10 as I said, so that’s not the problem.

[hard cedar]

its bugged

[solid gate]

Oh okay… that sucks

[quick thicket]

Can someone give me their opinion on what tanks I should enrich in the tech tree?

[waxen yacht]

Is 4 t110e5 autoloaders autoreloaders light tanks and most of the tds are fun

Then choose the tanks that are better for you

[hard cedar]

dont enrich t10s cuz you cant perma enrich

[past summit]

Guys i just bought the panther II. How do i use it? bc its differemt from panther I

[thorny smelt]

I was thinking about that too

[glad ridge]

Should I enrich this op tank?😂😂

[solid gate]

Wow....

[strange thicket]

I wouldn't recommend doing that.

[viscid jolt]

How i can obtain the vk 90 1 p

[inland osprey]

Vents or calibrated shells for the Yoh series tanks? (specifically the tier 8 one)

[hollow notch]

Calibrated all

[inland osprey]

aight

[hard cedar]

never run vents

[inland osprey]

are vents that bad lol

[hard cedar]

the extra pen you get from cali always outweighs a marginal increase in dpm

[thorny swallow]

which should i look forward too?

[hard cedar]

all are good kran easiest to play

[thorny swallow]

:o

[thorny swallow]

thanks mate

[hard cedar]

np

[left acorn]

Lol wait until tomorrow and just nuke people with invis + rammer rig

[left acorn]

Dont unless you’re fatness lol

[thorny smelt]

I don't feel that Emil I is this hecking slow unlike the Churchill and the succeeding tanks despite they are slow in paper.

[sacred trail]

That’s a premium option that’s only offered for a limited time for an outrageous gold cost, either for something excessive like 20K gold for the tank itself, or for crates that cost gold or real money that adds up after each dud crate

And the fact that it’s tier 10 makes it even harder to get

[hard cedar]

well both of them are slow

[solid gate]

Whats the ugliest tank in WoT Blitz lol

[shadow heron]

scavenger

[solid gate]

M-VI-Yoh, TOG II*, M3 Lee, Grille 15

I need to look at that tank

[shadow heron]

how is grille 15 an ugly tank? i think grille is a pretty tank

[solid gate]

It just looks scary to me especially the gun

And then whats the best looking tank

[shadow heron]

any tank that looks modern

[solid gate]

The T26E4 SuperPershing looks pretty good

Its a WWII tank im pretty sure though

[shadow heron]

i had forgotten the gravedigger, the ugliest, .ever

[wise moth]

Bat Chat 25t

[wary wing]

facts, it's really menacing for me lol

[shadow heron]

i'm finding it a lil defficult
to decide on the prettiest tank.

[thick trout]

1020 dpm yes good idea

[placid wyvern]

Grille 15 is decent to me, just a waffentrager on steroids....not big surprise

[hard cedar]

i cant tell if thats a joke or not

[placid wyvern]

Not a joke the Grille 15 is pretty normal to me but not the rest of those tanks

[hard cedar]

not you the vk 90 guy

[placid wyvern]

Oh ok

[red vapor]

Have you ever heard of a legendary tank named churchill gun carrier?

[viscid jolt]

@sacred trail thanks

[quick thicket]

Churchill game carrier* @red vapor

[rigid thunder]

yeah sure...

[fast compass]

xD

[onyx sluice]

Bought the Excelsior with the 50% discount, 1200 gold. Worth it?

[red vapor]

Worth it.

[solid gate]

.

[strange thicket]

Nope
Should have saved a bit more and waited for a tier 6 bundle

[obtuse meadow]

So I just got my supply level to 10 and my clans is level 10 as well. Where do I go to get the is-5

[hard cedar]

its bugged rn

[obtuse meadow]

Ah I see

[hollow fern]

Should i use the 25% discount on researching the Sheridan or will it be better put in use on another tank?

[marsh vale]

Is it a good tank ?

[flat stone]

Yes if you play it correctly.

[marsh vale]

Ok 👌

[solid gate]

Ngl vickers cr needs a dpm raise

[flat stone]

Good job mate. Autoloaders are fun if you ask me.

[solid gate]

Or a hp buff

[strange thicket]

It is fine how it is

[manic carbon]

Vickers Cr is the last tank in tier nine that needs a buff. It’s great how it is

[hard cedar]

sir i think you forgot about the waffle

[manic carbon]

Nah, waffle is a tier ten td I don’t know what you are talking about 😆

[hard cedar]

true!

[raven gulch]

Hello I have a question why are tanks How the Luchs or the M3Lee were removed In the past where I played they were all still inside and in my opinion it was more fun to play with them

[hard cedar]

you can get them back with vrt

[raven gulch]

vrt?

[solid gate]

is super conquerer good?

[raven gulch]

IDK

[hard cedar]

https://na.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/article/25202/

[ornate temple]

Pog

[manic carbon]

@solid gate It’s not bad, good at playing hulldown with the 10 degrees of gun depression and utilising the turret.
But the tank is quite sluggish and the gun isn’t great, and the worst one of the three british heavies

[solid gate]

This makes me irrationally angry

[plucky summit]

I like it, if you're good, you can pull an average of 3k damage per game

[solid gate]

Anyone know bonus codes i know one 7happy7777 can i get one in exchange?

[viscid jolt]

Why me ;-;

[eager lantern]

alright so I have 1.2k gold and I've been thinking about getting a tier 5 premium tank now that they are discounted should I get one of them

[jaunty monolith]

If you want one of them so badly, I'd recommend you T14 or Excelsior, because of their gun and armor

[eager lantern]

sry thanks for the code but i dont know of any

[solid gate]

No problem

[eager lantern]

it's not that I want one really bad it's just I'm wondering if it's worth it or should I just wait for a different opportunity to show up

[hollow notch]

Slapping people for 900 alpha is disgusting

[jaunty monolith]

Honestly, I wouldn't buy any of those. Besides I'd collect more gold for the special event in Christmas, then you'd be able to buy a tier 6-10 tank up to 60% cheaper than usual

[eager lantern]

ok thx

[solid gate]

Save it. No T5 premium is worth the investment. If you want a premium badly, wait until the Cromwell B or SU-100Y come around in shop for 1.5k gold, those offers usually have bonus premium time and other random stuff as part of the deal

[eager lantern]

i have su100y

[solid gate]

Then save ur gold

[neat nimbus]

yeah i have the holiday jagdtiger 8.8 and about super pershing well i could have better chance in the next update and 4th wont have what i want

[pure atlas]

should I try going for t49

[river garden]

Turns out the T29 and T30 were made at the same time

Same chassis different guns

T34 is the younger brother since it was made after the T series

2 with the 105mm and 2 with the 155mm biggest gun of the entire history of american tank guns

[cosmic pelican]

Can someone tell me why zero tanks in my game have dynamic suspension?? Not even the Yoh’s have it.

[plucky summit]

Do you have the setting turned off?
Is your device old?

[median tree]

turn on in settings

[cosmic pelican]

I use a MAC desktop from 2011 and I have my graphics set to high, however I can’t turn on some options for the graphics

[plucky summit]

It must be too old to support

👍

[cosmic pelican]

hmm, well thanks for the help

[lavish epoch]

object 260 good tank?

[pine moss]

no not really

[plucky summit]

If you like the IS-8 :3

[hollow moth]

It's good, but not in the heavy tank role instead of brawling against E100's or being on frontline, it's a nice vehicle to clear flanks and beat mediums.

[pine moss]

IS-4 💪

[surreal blade]

I actually prefer is7. I do better in is7 than is4 just because of the alpha and speed

[pine moss]

sorry that is not possible IS-4 is the bread

[surreal blade]

Lool

[plucky summit]

Ok mr. Buff IS-4 or mrs. ._.

[pine moss]

my pronoun is not mr or mrs it is "IS", so if my name happened to be bob you would call me "IS-Bob"

[plucky summit]

I am so confused

[hollow notch]

Don't worry about whatever it wants

[pine orchid]

@plucky summit umm is T28 good tier 8 TD ?

[robust quest]

just recently purchased comet and t-43, both have somewhat average pen. for tier vii, and i was wondering if it would be worth running a gun rammer on them since they already have a decent dpm with food and max crew

[plucky summit]

N o p e.

Brb gonna dance real quick, will reply soon

[pine orchid]

Then I need Tier 8 TD
Spec :
Thic armor
Good gun
Formidable Acc and gun depression
Slow speed

[random cedar]

Thoughts on super pershing???

[keen garnet]

Same, IS-4 is boring as heck

[plucky summit]

Lemme see…

[plucky summit]

It's not that good, but the AMX AC 48 presents a 400 alpha, with good penetration and dispersion values, including aim time

The armor has quite a few weakspots and the sides are extremely easy to penetrate, angle a bit against high-pen guns but not too far, especially high caliber guns

It's also relatively manueverable

[surreal blade]

Yep

[plucky summit]

Another option is the JPanther II, which is German, using a 460 alpha gun with good penetration, the accuracy is really good for the caliber, and it has a very hard to penetrate superstructure with good speed values too

It's more meta too, 3k DPM and 460 alpha is a great combination

@pine orchid that should suit your good gun, armor, maneuverability is overboard, and is accurate too, with 7 degrees of gun depression for some superstructure-only madness

[pine orchid]

@plucky summit thx

[plucky summit]

Np

[plucky summit]

Anyone want me to make a BH representation of armor effectiveness while hulldown?

[pine orchid]

Jpanther or Jtiger ?

[plucky summit]

I'm kinda dumb, anyways yeah, since you wanted a tier 8 TD, JPanther II

[pine orchid]

Ok

[plucky summit]

I.E.

[plucky rain]

What tanks are the best to use in mad games, from tier 5 - 10?

[rare ice]

:3

[drifting delta]

Type 5 heavy .........

[onyx sluice]

Seems like the Jagdtiger 8.8 is the one for you, it's premium though not tech-tree.

[dreamy blade]

I feel the T30 could use a bit of a buff tbh.

[solid gate]

They could also buff KV2 reload lmao

Wo is the admin of wot ?

[sick dagger]

The lowe is worth 6375 gold now?

[fleet karma]

Yeah, the Lowe is great, but you gotta know where to angle because alot of mediums can pen right through you turret cheeks and your lower plate

I would get the Lowe or the t34 tbh, both amazing tier 8

I'ma get the k91 and the su130pm bundle soon and I'm hella excited

Any objections or how to play the tanks advice?

[solid gate]

Is this a good tank or I should go with E100 line?

[daring relic]

@solid gate The E100 is more beginner friendly than the vk. The E100 has the ability to side scrape as the vk does not. The rear of the vk has massive weak spots

And they share thr same gun basically, E100 is more flexible to your style of gun

[solid gate]

Damage is 640 in VK that's a big difference compared to 469 that's why I was thinking. But didn't consider it's weak spots

[surreal blade]

E100 has 640 gun bruh but yea it costs about 60k xp

[solid gate]

Well according to the game it doesn't have 640.

It is 460

[surreal blade]

Bruh it has 2 guns
One is 460 alpha which is stock gun
The second is 640 alpha and 14 sec reload which costs 60k xp. Go check in tech tree if u want

[pine moss]

why u being dumbo

[solid gate]

@grand cliff @frigid ember

[pine moss]

ok buddy

this is so cringe you are @ ing random players named “admin” smh

just stop trying to waste the staff’s time

[delicate dock]

do you not see the researchable gun that the E100 has
there clearly is not just 1 gun module

even a 30% er knows that the E100 has a researchable 15 cm gun

[plucky rain]

Some players that reached tier 10 don't even put camos on their tanks

[pine moss]

yes

[ancient star]

@solid gate bruuuhh there is a second gun

[tidal gull]

Why did the kv2 HE got nerf?!

I need a solid explanation cause i am going crazy and mad rn

[manic carbon]

Probably to help with the fact that KV-2 152mm was one shotting everything and just being a toxic tank in general. They also added the equipment slots that reduce damage/pen as an indirect nerf

[tidal gull]

Well...

No one is playing the kv2 because of the HE being nerfed it is just the king of splash damage now

[valid gale]

Which means the nerf did it’s job

[manic carbon]

I used to be a KV-2 spammer before the nerfs and when I was a newer player, it was toxic and the nerfs were justified. Being a spammer, I know how stupid the 152mm was and how easy it was to one shot people

[tidal gull]

But the nerf took it down in hell

[rigid thunder]

if you want to create funny reddit compilations of one shotting tier 5-6s, you need to pay a price. That price is having to play with a bad tank

[tidal gull]

Now me playing kv2 in war thunder 😄

[thick trout]

The KV2 is still not a bad tank at all in the slightest and it needs the 152 removed, but that would make all the KV2 spammers who rely on a tank that needs no skill sad because now they have to face the fact they are bad players and apparently there's a lot of those in blitz

[manic carbon]

KV-2 was one of my first tier 6s and once I saw the derp power I just spammed it for fun. A dark time

[thick trout]

I put a solid 500 games or so games into it when I was a noob and now I wear those battles with shame :'(

[thorny smelt]

What game is this?

[keen garnet]

War Thunder

[tidal gull]

The kv2 is OP in war thunder

Thats i i started playing the game 3 or 4 months ago and the best part is no dispersion no aiming time and it is great

And war thunder is free

Well enough of that.

[valid gale]

Atleast it’s not as bad as somehow almost reaching 1k on the su 152 I have no memories of battling in that thing anymore but plenty on how that thing defies blitzes percentages

I swear it gets more accurate when it’s gun is damaged or if it’s gunners killed

[thorny smelt]

I'm always confused on how to play this game

[keen garnet]

exsdee

[tidal gull]

War thunder is good you have no dispersion or aiming time its good my mans

[valid gale]

It’s basically whoever has the worse pc wins

You’ll either get spotted halfway across the map or get denied a killshot and shown by warthunders ballistic engine sucks

[tidal gull]

The kv2 in wotb doesn't serve a purpose anymore its just a worser version of the smasher ehy on earth would ou play the kv2 its just trash it doesn't serve a purpose anymore

[violet timber]

Ummm the KV-2 isn’t bad? It’s just balanced

[tidal gull]

Ok then I keep losing in it and just win rarely on it how do you call it balanced huh?

[hollow moth]

I still think it stills broken because the 1shot factor + turret. That's arguably.

[violet timber]

I call it a lack of skill. @hollow moth is right, the KV-2 still needs some rebalancing.

[tidal gull]

Bruh you guys are just focusing on the damage but not focusing on the weak spot of it

[median tree]

Kinda serves a purpose

Its a f2p nerfed smasher

[tidal gull]

The kv2 is very unaccurate even when I'm fully aimed I gt recked easly the speed it ok its fine but everything is juts bad just thats is what what call a tank bad

[hollow moth]

Honestly I don't care about "hey it have weakspot". These weakspots don't save a Hellcat after is gets 1shot.

[tidal gull]

Uh huh I don't come across a hellcat very often I the kv2

[valid gale]

Your not supposed to be driving the kv2 anyways if your aware how crap it is unless your stuck with it which just switch to the 107 at that point it’s a slot machine with the 152

[median tree]

Fair point

[tidal gull]

I minus well just miss the hellcat

[tidal gull]

I don't give a crap about the kv2 I just want the HE back

The HE is what makes the kv2 special and the fun of it, sure you can get some derps but it is rarely that you will gt some derps I just derped in the kv2 once just once

[hollow moth]

Sorry, but it's not only hellcats that are 1shot-able. Every single tier 5 can be killed only using the normal AP and every single tier 6 in the sides or back (unless heavies)

If you like hitkill factor, you'll like War Thunder and the HE Overpressure system.

[solid gate]

#bringbackthekv-2

[hollow moth]

Honestly I also don't care if it's rare or not. It happens.

[tidal gull]

The kv2 is only good at tier 5 but I get into tier 7 battle alot more then tier 5 tier 5 match making in the kv2 is very rare

Minus well remove the kv2 yhem front he game if it sucks

[hollow moth]

Wow, that also happens with a lot of tanks, even in Annihilator.

[tidal gull]

If it's a tier 6 battle it's a tier 6 battle it doesn't need tier 5 or tier 7 if it's a tier 7 battle it's a tier 7 battle no tier 8 or 6 included WG needs to fix that

[hollow moth]

Allow me to shatter your KV-2 dreams, but it was meant to be "removed" in 5.5 update but because of the vehicle's popularity, T-150 was "removed" instead.

[valid gale]

I don’t think you know how to play the game if you’re entirely based off this one tank and want it to be removed just because of a nerf

[hollow moth]

I wonder how this guy would act if he had an OP tech tree tank that got nerfed. Idk, maybe Emil 1 pre nerf?

[tidal gull]

Well that nerf ruined the kv2 and it can't do crap so minus well JUST REMOVE THE GODDAMN TANK!!!!

[hollow moth]

Kv-2 mains at their finnest.

[thick trout]

Ok then I keep losing in it and just win rarely on it how do you call it balanced huh?

Who's going to tell him 👀

[valid gale]

Please just stick to warthunder if you can’t even do good in one tank

[tidal gull]

Yes I am playing war thunder

[hollow moth]

Dogowisdom already said I guess.

[tidal gull]

I playing war thunder for 1 reason and that reason is getting the kv2 and it was a lot of fun one shooting everyone

[hollow moth]

Cool. What else you want? A cookie?

[tidal gull]

Yes I want cookie and some vodka :3

[solid gate]

stop with your russian stereotype

[hollow moth]

No, I won't give ya 🤠

[tidal gull]

Curse ya

[hollow moth]

Thanks.

[tidal gull]

Now how about the churchill 3...

Churchill 3 has a great gun 2 guns actually I prefer the more damage one

[hollow moth]

Churchill 3... I don't remember it.

[plucky rain]

What tank fits well with the topsy turvy camo?

[solid gate]

Give the M1 Abrams

[pine orchid]

I need Merkava

What tank is it ?

[wheat flower]

Just got it. Its gonna be kinda pain to grind and upgrade it

[analog cypress]

Then use Refined gun on the KV-2 if you want better dispersion

[thick trout]

You'll have mad games so it won't be as bad as normal lol

[wheat flower]

Acually it is bad because everyone targets me first 😐

[hollow notch]

Any sta lovers here?

[thick trout]

B... But the gun handling... It makes the STA so oppppp...

[kindred siren]

my baby
the tank stock is garbage tho

[wheat flower]

Im lucky i have the 3 clip gun

[kindred siren]

yea but its the 105mm

[wheat flower]

Ye.
But hey
230mm pen.

[kindred siren]

yea that is horrible, the top gun has 270mm

ight first mad games game in the hellcat

[manic cedar]

which website do you use to vizualize the armor of the tanks?

[plucky summit]

wotinspector, blitzhangar

wotinspector is more dynamic, but won’t let you view prems/tier 10s for free

And maybe collectors? Not sure

[wheat flower]

I use blitzhangar.

[manic cedar]

thanks guys

[fast compass]

Wotinspector will let you view premiums and tier 9-10, just not in confrontation mode.

Vastly different tanks but ig I'd pick one of the best tier 9 tanks over an average tier 10 medium

[turbid nest]

question which tank should i go for in t4 hetzer or the Pv. IV D

[fast compass]

While I am not entirely certain about k91 credit making ability. 121b definitely doesn't make credits

[low lark]

That dépend of your preferences

[turbid nest]

well @low larkim loving the speedy tanks cuz easy mobility

[low lark]

Hetzer was good back in the day but now its not a good tank, si go for the pz i think

[turbid nest]

mk thanks

[low lark]

Np

[turbid nest]

but yea im maining japanese tanks and german tanks

[hollow moth]

Damn, Hetzer is my favorite tank for tier 4 seal clubbing, the german heavy TD line is perfect for teaching newbies the TD close quarter support.

[turbid nest]

ah i like being speedy so i can rack up base capture streak@hollow moth

[hollow moth]

Well, Hetzer and Panzer 4 D aren't very fast, but the german light tank line goes from the Panzer 4 D.

A friendly recomendation: don't always try to capture the point, it's very rare to win by points in Encounter battles.

Yes, but they still on a very good speed. Leopard 1 and Leopard 1 PT A are very fast. @hard cedar

[hard cedar]

t9 and t10 are meds though

they are fast but they're missing light tank view range

[manic carbon]

I rarely ever see the base be fully capped. I usually try to use it as a pressure tool if the enemy team is hard camping and to force them to move. Some people will also just yolo the cap to reset it, and can be easy kills

[hollow moth]

Less 10 or 15 meters of view range? That won't make your spotting worse. The only real difference between leopard and a light is the concealment bonus.

[hard cedar]

concealment too but any difference in viewrange is a difference

[thick trout]

Encounter cap is basically never used at all, maybe if you are in a 2v1 with two heavies against a med or light, maybe if the reds are all sitting at spawn and you are on a decent map for forming them out of position

[manic carbon]

Pretty much

[hollow moth]

Maybe in WOT, but in Blitz even heavies can spot well.

[plucky summit]

@turbid nest Pz. IV D if you want a speedy playstyle, the Grille line isn't supposed to run around as much as the E 50 M or the Leo 1

[turbid nest]

@plucky summitmk thanks

[hard cedar]

not at the beginning, the mobility advantage is why you bring lights or meds to spot in comp

[plucky summit]

And I think you know Jageroo's line isn't made for speed :p

[turbid nest]

just got the free t4 american tank

[plucky summit]

T6E1 Grizzly is a solid t4, at least you got a credit maker

If you need any tips, I've been thinking of being some sort of a teacher or something, I've just liked helping people figure the game out

[hollow moth]

I don't think a new player will understand these concepts. Chill, he/she still don't know this all.

Well, @plucky summit I trust you to be the guide of that player, carpe diem.

[plucky summit]

👍 I won't try to let them down

[turbid nest]

i killed 2 tanks on my own

[hard cedar]

gj

[plucky summit]

Congratz, you get a special medal if you do it alone against 3

[turbid nest]

in this fight was easy since their armor sucked

[plucky summit]

That's how most of the 1v?s turn out, the last tank usually has a blatant advantage against any of their enemies

Mostly by HP, that's how I gauge how 1v?s turn out, depending on the single tank's alpha (average damage per shot) and reload time with how close the enemies are

[turbid nest]

4 in a row

[plucky summit]

4 1v2s in a row?

[turbid nest]

team match i recently did i killed 4 tanks

[plucky summit]

Nice

[turbid nest]

didnt get to kill the Pz. III but i murdered his buddies

[plucky summit]

F

[turbid nest]

took camp at expense of my allies being decoys

[plucky summit]

That's how pros play sometimes :p

Teammates are just timers before the enemies start shooting you

But don't camp every battle, especially when you're not a TD, be secondline at least

[turbid nest]

thanks to their sac i got t5 german tank now

[plucky summit]

I can show you concepts like sidescraping and hulldown

[turbid nest]

sure would help

[plucky summit]

We can do a training room, maybe VC, or I can just show pictures of those situations and just talk about it through text

Your choice

@turbid nest ^

[turbid nest]

pics work atm

[plucky summit]

Alright, time to get pics

What tanks would you like to see in those positions? Armor tends to be preferable, at least a part of it

[hard cedar]

Sidescraping doesn't work on most tanks though

[plucky summit]

Sidescraping is very dependent on the situation, I'll teach you about the concept and what implications support it

[turbid nest]

german tanks since thats what im working on atm

[plucky summit]

The Lowe is one of the most generous builds of a tank when it comes to sidescraping, it allows you to actively fire back, but the turret presents many small weakspots that must be mitigated by movement or turret rotation

When you sidescrape, the key factor is that your side armor is at a ricochet angle (you can check using websites like blitzhangar or wotinspector), which will stop AP and APCR shells from penetrating your armor, regardless of their penetration value, unless the three-caliber rule is met

An auto-ricochet angle is 70 degrees, assuming 0 degrees means the armor is completely facing the shell at a flat angle

The three caliber rule is a special mechanic, if the caliber of your gun is over three times the value of the nominal (base thickness with no angle) armor, then the shell will attempt to penetrate, regardless of the angle

Another issue with sidescraping, besides the small turret lump on the side that can be shot for the Lowe, is when players load HEAT, which doesn't auto-ricochet until 85 degrees, which your armor tends not to reach because it's such a sharp angle

For hulldown, the process of hiding your hull, exposing only your turret to the enemy, the Emil I is a popular tank in tier 8 (not many german tanks can hulldown as effectively, this is the most effective tank in tier 8 for hulldown) to use this strategy.

This is the general armor for the Emil I as you see it frontally

Now this is how effective it is when using its gun depression (the angle your gun can "look" downwards) for hulldown

The deep red signifies the strongest effectiveness of armor plates (pretend those lightish red plates on the bottom sides of the blue gun are also deep red, my mistake)

You don't have tanks of this specialty yet, because the Pz. IV D is very lightly armored for a tier 4. But if you tell me a tank you bought, I can show you if it will be effective in either situation

[turbid nest]

ah yea but its a speedy tank which i like

[plucky summit]

If you're going fast, then don't worry yourself over these concepts that much, but you can use hulldown for some fast tanks to bounce enemy shells still

[manic carbon]

In Blitz, hulldown is definitely a more effective and common thing you will do in your tanks.
Sidescraping is nice to know about and understand, but in Blitz it’s really not that essential

[plucky summit]

If you can't easily fire back when you sidescrape, try not to sidescrape

[gentle wasp]

Hulldown is a nice tactic for pretty much every tank, as long as you’re not sitting there expecting to bounce everything. At very least you’re greatly decreasing your exposure.

[plucky summit]

A fun thing to do when hulldowned with a not-so-armored turret is to move around when they are ready to fire at you, you can bounce the enemy shell because they couldn't aim properly at a weak spot on your turret

[manic carbon]

Yeah, hulldown and just ‘dancing’ around, particularly if you have cupolas and hatches that are weakspots, moving around will make them more liable to miss.

It was nicely explained above though. I watched a WoT PC guide video the other week about blocking damage which pretty much applies to Blitz as well, should try and find it.

[gentle wasp]

https://youtu.be/uKtmnwIwrHc

[manic carbon]

There you go

[plucky summit]

If you see any videos by WoT Europe about game mechanics, if you haven't seen it yet, check them out, they are not only entertaining, but very informative and essential to your performance when used

[manic carbon]

I always recommend them if people prefer. People learn better in different ways, some would prefer to watch a video which is fine

[turbid nest]

ppl on ps4 wot r nasty i died again

[manic carbon]

I’ve played WoT console in the past, mainly to experience and try artillery.

[turbid nest]

the battle im in right now for it is tied

[plucky summit]

I did because it was so cool and the music and graphics were phenomenal, then the artillery came in

And it didn't help that I played all the way up to the O-Ni xD

[turbid nest]

well i got the hetzer just cuz i wanna have dmg route just in case i need it

[manic carbon]

No problem with expanding out and trying different things

[plucky summit]

That is great to learn a variant of hulldown, I say superstructure-down, but 1. It's not even a superstructure for the Hetzer, and 2. It's a mouthful

Regardless, you can utilize your strong upper plate, where your gun is located, and hide your lower plate behind terrain and shoot over it

[turbid nest]

mk

[strange thicket]

This guy was actually correct
My reload time increased when my driver got injured in 50b

[turbid nest]

won the fight got 4k exp upgraded its spd

[plucky summit]

130mm of APCR penetration can barely have a chance at damage a Hetzer in that position, note that basically anything under the gun is not able to be hit, as it is hidden behind terrain

I suppose the Driver did have an influence in loading the shell

[turbid nest]

jesus so i only had 30 HP left and still survived cuz none of my teammates got killed

[plucky summit]

Nice

[turbid nest]

got a few kills too

[plucky summit]

That's a TD's job, if not damage

[wheat flower]

I just realized that the 50 120 can get ammoracked pretty easily.

[strange thicket]

That is kinda weird.
Dogofwisdom and martin pointed out that the commander was the one loading if the loader is injured

[plucky summit]

He may not be the sole loader, likely the main one, but still

I figured if anything, the gunner would help load too, unless that is the case, and 3 people are loading the gun 😂

[hollow notch]

From pc all 4 crew members on the amx50b also preform the role of loader. I assume this Carrie's over into blitz

[plucky summit]

All four crew members of a tank are knocked out
Guy from allied tank: I gotchu

[manic carbon]

Yeah, the ammoracks are located all over the hull. You can hit it through the front of the hull, or if you have the side profile it’s an easy hit towards the drive wheel.
Some ammorack is also in the back of the turret @wheat flower

[plucky summit]

I think it'd be pretty neat if that was the case, and if the loader is gone, and the gun needs loading, the ability to drive the tank is hindered or stopped

[wheat flower]

Yes and on the sides also. I was shocked when i saw the modules and ammo racks on wotinspector

[hollow notch]

Don't you just love it when you are aiming at the side of an oscillating turret and they suddenly elevate or depress the gun, causing you to miss?

[plucky summit]

I'd be more peeved that the Annihilator has 200mm bottom parts of the oscillation, and a tiny 0mm plate in the middle that's supposed to be the "hole" for the turret

And it's only on the moving part! The bottom "hole" is still 200mm

[wheat flower]

A yess
I hate that
Especialy when it happenes on the su or on any tank with long reload time

[plucky summit]

Then we have Action X with a 401mm turret bottom

[wheat flower]

Yes.pain to pen it

[hollow notch]

Lmao

[turbid nest]

well time to go back to my t5 finished getting the 7v7

[plucky summit]

getting the 7v7?

[hollow notch]

I hate these idler holders

[turbid nest]

@plucky summitjust got it

[plucky summit]

I'm just annoyed they're not spaced armor like the others

@turbid nest what tank? I'm not sure what tank you're talking about

[hard cedar]

i love them they give me troll bounces

[plucky summit]

Wait nvm they actually patched them being spaced armor

[turbid nest]

im thinking of doing russian tanks too@plucky summitand im talking about more ppl to kill the 7 vs 7 is now available to me

[plucky summit]

OHHH the new game tutorial, ok, yeah, definitely expect a more rough time because now it's all real players (I believe)

[turbid nest]

ah fun

[hard cedar]

nope bots till 500 battles iirc

[plucky summit]

Wack, also M-VII-Yoh is spaced

[hollow notch]

Or above a certain tier I believe

[hard cedar]

i think its only t10 that u face real players below 500

[hollow notch]

Pretty sure its 5+

[hard cedar]

no someones sent ss of bots in a t7 game before

[strange thicket]

You face bots up to tier 8

Or at least that is my experience in my russian account

[plucky summit]

I can't imagine a bot trying to play a complex tank like a tier 8 like it's just "drive at them and shoot"

[hollow notch]

Hmmm
On my eu account I'm pretty sure I'm getting non bot matches, but maybe a single toon broke my fancy matchmaking

[plucky summit]

I haven't made an alt to play through it

I think toons disrupt MM

Iirc the message function can be shown up early if someone says hi

[strange thicket]

Exactly what they do
They are normally not maxed out and drive side ways or sometimes with their butts.
I have seen bots play as tiger 2s and panther 2s

[plucky summit]

Ouch, couldn't imagine 7v7 Tiger II bots, being unable to pen each other because they don't know how to press 2

[strange thicket]

Also they are normally one per game

[glass prairie]

wg forgot to fix up the suspension model (around the track you can still see a small box around them, they can also be seen in the garage if you angle the camera in the correct way)

[plucky summit]

Well maybe they thought you couldn't tell because there's lines everywhere else on the ground too

[midnight leaf]

its probably something with your graphics card idk

[glass prairie]

also in the garage

idk i’ll have a friend check it out on their device also, but idk if it’s something with my graphics because I bought this phone new 3 days ago

[polar mulch]

Feeling happy with wt 🤣

[plucky summit]

Rage mode is bad for your skills, you will only lose more battles.

Where did you hit and what was their HP?

[real quarry]

thoughts on the Skorpion G? I won it from the giveaway and would like some Tips&Tricks for it

[plucky summit]

Bushes are your friend, but you can sneak around and use that alpha + reload

[real quarry]

thnx

[plucky summit]

Try not to hit their tracks or gun, or very strong armor plates, if you hit their lower plate then you should have been good

KV-2 is a gimmick, it can be effective with RNG and patience though

Yes, that's a problem you must overcome, mainly by waiting to shoot them first

Kranvagn for a good tank

183 for a good tank if you know exactly where to be and what shell to fire at what parts of enemy tanks

Just be secondline, and fire at unsuspecting enemies

[pine orchid]

I just play one game do you know what ? My health was full but out off nowhere a SU-152 shoot me then my tank explode. Whats going on idk why my tank suddenly blown up

[plucky summit]

You got ammo racked, when your ammo rack is critically damaged you are instantly destroyed because your ammunition combusted

[pine orchid]

How to achive ammo rack damage ?

[plucky summit]

You shoot the ammo rack and it has a chance to take damage

When it is damaged, the reload time is doubled (though I'm not sure, but it works as an estimate)

[pine orchid]

@plucky summit maybe its OOT but you can tell me the redeem code ? Which contain premium account for 3 days ?

[plucky summit]

Idk

[pine orchid]

Owh nvm

[onyx sluice]

What can I expect from the VK100p? The armor seems to be similar to the Tiger P, weak lower plate and large cupola with strong UFP and turret. What about it's gun?

[hollow notch]

The gun hits very hard and has a long reload. You are going to want to trade shells 1 for 1 once you get the top gun. The stock gun is pure trash and get through it as fast as possible

[plucky summit]

Take Tiger II, double the reload, and you get stock 100 P :p

[onyx sluice]

Luckily I had enough free XP to get the top gun, not the engine though.

[fluid carbon]

Awful reload and awful dispersion
-my friend who grind the tank

[plucky summit]

The reload is fair for the 460, and so it the dispersion

[onyx sluice]

That is true for any 400+ alpha gun.

[thorny smelt]

You can go for VK 45 but you'll sacrifice both armor and alpha in exchange for speed and relatively good gun handling

[full salmon]

is this normal in fun modes?

[static harness]

Yep
Because of weegees spaghetti coding

[onyx sluice]

I want the Maus though.

[thorny smelt]

Well you do you

[stuck olive]

should i get the kv 2 or kv 1 s

[honest blade]

If you actually wanna grind kv 1s otherwise kv2

[stuck olive]

oh ok thx

[honest blade]

Np

[split cypress]

Brr

[pine orchid]

@plucky summit if grind tier 9 with 142k exp how long to grind it ?

[hasty sorrel]

Anyone wanna toon tier 8? Grinding for e 75

[manic carbon]

Use #platoon-search

[open solstice]

Is the e50 good?

[manic carbon]

Solid once fully upgraded and equipped.
I bought it back the other day, and it does better than I previously thought

[real quarry]

thoughts on the Gravedigger?

[hard cedar]

only good when downtiered

[open solstice]

Wish it shared it's final gun with leo pta
I have to painfully grind with pew shooter lol

[manic carbon]

The top gun I love though, the accuracy is great

[humble raven]

Can i get su100y back if it is like not in my garage anymore. I sold it a while ago and would like it back

[hard cedar]

you can use vrt

[manic carbon]

Yes you can get the SU-100y by submitting a restoration ticket. It is a premium, so it is restored for credits - the price is the tanks sale price + a 10% fee. You’ll also need a spare garage slot.

All the information can be found here for restoring a tank; https://eu.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/article/25202/

[humble raven]

Ok thanks

[calm inlet]

thanks Martin

[plucky summit]

Depends what tank and what modules you have already

[manic carbon]

👍

[plucky summit]

Unless it’s actually maxed and your XP is not free XP, then it depends what tier 10 you’re goin for, and if you have any certificated for discounts

[pine orchid]

Modules have impact ?

[plucky summit]

Whether you’ve researched them or not, they may need to be researched before moving to tier 10

Just show me the upgrade page for your tier 9

[potent lantern]

This question is probably asked a ton, but what's the best noob friend tech tree line?

[plucky summit]

E100, and IS-7

[potent lantern]

I see

[plucky summit]

(Brb)

[pine orchid]

Its valid to tier 8 to 9 ?

[manic carbon]

E-100, Object 268, T110E5 and IS-7 lines are all solid ones to start with @potent lantern

[plucky summit]

Just show me the upgrade tab for your tier 9 >:l

[pine orchid]

I havent reach it lol

[plucky summit]

Oh lol, then show me the upg tab for your tier 8

[pine orchid]

Wait this morning I'll get it

[plucky summit]

👍

[tired turtle]

for the veterans of blitz I present to you, nostalgia

[plucky summit]

mk

[stuck halo]

Which mad games abilities does the T9 Czechoslovakian tank have?

[plucky summit]

It's not out yet, so 1. It doesn't matter, and 2. We don't know

[stuck halo]

What?

[tired turtle]

Bruh the skoda is out

[plucky summit]

Right the Skoda, not 50TP I keep forgetting

[tired turtle]

lol

[stuck halo]

It's just so dumb that you can't view the skills of tanks you don't have

[manic carbon]

Blitzhanger has a list of tanks with their mad games abilities, but it doesn’t seem to be updated unfortunately

[hard cedar]

big braining

[plucky summit]

They stopped doing abilities since like a year ago 😭

[stuck halo]

Yeah I already searched there, it's outdated

[tired turtle]

I think the skoda is a chameleon rammer

[hard cedar]

why is t342 only tech tree tank with rammer rig and high octane 😢

[stuck halo]

The t8 is

[plucky summit]

TVP TVU?

[stuck halo]

Yeah

[tired turtle]

yea I just looked on yt skoda is a invisible rammer

[stuck halo]

T9 too?

[tired turtle]

yea

[stuck halo]

Nice

[tired turtle]

here's proof (found this on yt)

yeah

[mellow marten]

Must of been a good tank template, and the t-14 Armata sorta just looks like a longer version n stuff

[valid gale]

The T-tank template is built for hulldown fighting armata is slightly different as its turret is automated and empty and most of the armor is in the front

[neat nimbus]

thanks wg but i wanted free xp or credits

if ii already have the tanks from those crate except the three days crates

[plucky summit]

You're mad that you got 900,000 credits?

[neat nimbus]

well im not mad just dissapointed i didnt get free xp

[plucky summit]

mmk

[neat nimbus]

imagine the next update wg pranking at me

[plucky summit]

I'm happy I got 2 certs of 350k fXP :D
Thanks Blitzfair

[solid gate]

Which tank has the longest gun the grille or the (m 50) 8,8 cm Kw.k. L/100 gun

[plucky summit]

What tank for 8,8? I can try and compare them

But there's no long 8,8cm =(

[solid gate]

The m 50

[last parcel]

Panther 7 5 gun is long

[plucky summit]

There's no M50 in Blitz so Ima compare Emil I, Grille 15, and Panther

[solid gate]

I mean the e 50 sorry

[plucky summit]

I will compare the external reach of each gun.

[neat nimbus]

i was searching for a panther g and i found this hope wg may add this as a camo with some built-in attachments

[plucky summit]

@solid gate Grille 15 as I see, both were from 200m

[solid gate]

Mmmmm

But the e50 has the longest gun of all the mediums right?@plucky summit

[plucky summit]

Yes, including WoT

[solid gate]

Oof

[neat nimbus]

something like this for a legendary camo for the panther 1

[solid gate]

I think there should be more historical attachments for every tank! That will make them unique

Because the tanks looks so empty if u see a historical attachments on the tank it makes it more alive and like there are actually people inside the tank!

[neat nimbus]

the only closest thing is the tiger 2 with camo and field kitches attachment

anyone has bought that camo and the attachment

[solid gate]

True I like that
The tanks with the most historical camos:
Maus 313
Tiger II Savage
Jagdpanzer E-100 Mighty Bär?

313 wut?

[neat nimbus]

lowe and e75 ts have nice camos but not historical

[plucky summit]

Non-Historical?

When has Blitz ever been non-historical? 🤔

[neat nimbus]

i meant those tank only existed in blueprints

[plucky summit]

lol, rhetorical

[neat nimbus]

and well the desing of the camo for the e75 ts i dont even know if was used but the coat used it is

[tough vessel]

Is the 121B worth getting :0

[plucky summit]

I mean, if you wanna try to earn credits in tier 10, why not

[hollow moth]

Let's be honest here, even if the game isn't worried about historic facts, it places some details that actually makes me happy.
KV-2 with the 152mm gun has double AP ammo set because irl it only used AC Shells (Anti-concrete shells, technically AP), AP shells and HE.

[sacred trail]

If we were focusing on real historical accuracy, then the FV215b 183 and the FV215b heavy would not exist due to the former not making it past the wooden mockup stage. The FV4005 would still have the 183 mm L4. T110E3, E4, and E5 wouldn’t exist due to being suggestions than production models. Caernarvon Action X would not exist because that project was done with the Centurion. ARL 44 wouldn’t have the stock barn turret offered. There’s plenty of detours from historical accuracy that we’d be here all day talking about it.

[valid gale]

The whole “action x” isn’t even a thing either nor is super conq camos being historically accurate is a funny suggestion

[polar mulch]

Why can't he can have a HE damage reducer everyone is shooting HE at me

[onyx sluice]

Because that's the weakness all paper TDs share?

[plucky summit]

"all paper TDs"
Yeah say that to the Grille line now

Let alone 4005's line

[sacred trail]

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/centurion-mantletless-turret/ Here’s what I found regarding the whole Centurion Action X concept

[onyx sluice]

I've shot HE at the RHM and it seems to work. Though I dislike the RNG damage roll sometimes.

[plucky summit]

HE does penetrate Rhm, but sometimes it has reduced damage because the player equipped spall liner

[onyx sluice]

I find the paper TDs quite annoying NGL.

[sacred trail]

I’ve had a Smasher shoot me with HE when I played Nashorn before. Absolute pain.

[onyx sluice]

When is it not a pain facing Smashers?

[plucky summit]

Just use the equipment that reduces HE damage from 130mm+ guns

[high anvil]

Hey stupid question maybe but is there a point to the hull turn equipment? The other equipment also gives you hull turn rate and all the other benefits

Like here in this case the difference between the two is just 0.8 degree/s

Am I missing something or is there just no point to improved control?

[plucky summit]

The point is for that bit extra traverse

But points don't always have to win the debate :)

[high anvil]

I run it on my 113 and Foch 155 but considering changing it, I don't feel like the traverse will even feel worse if it's that small

[onyx sluice]

Maybe for slower traversing TDs but the other one is simply better.

[fluid parrot]

Got this boi

[wanton oar]

The stock KV-1 is slow as a stock AT-2 but worse

[stuck flare]

There's another version of the tiger 1(basically the same but on tier VI) with a historical skin but is just used for the new tutorial

[solid gate]

True, it looks like the Tiger 237 "Stefan"

[acoustic ginkgo]

Guys which line should i go for ?
Leopard 1 line, tvp line or bat chap lne ?

[static harness]

Tvp

[thorny smelt]

You'll get to either of the top guns in no time. Most might prefer the 85 mm F-30 gun for "faster" 9 second reload time, or a higher alpha 122 mm U-11 gun.

You need to upgrade first the gun then the engine. For me, the tracks is optional.

[thorny smelt]

If only they add another line of French heavies aside from the AMX 50 100 and the successors, that would be nice

[midnight leaf]

try playing it stock lol

[real plover]

Well the tanks in the tech tree are supposed to be from world war II, but the Sheridan is a Cold War tank, and the Italian tech tree I think was built in the 1960s

[thorny smelt]

The game isn't just meant to include only WW2 tanks. It is meant to cover 20-century era tanks from WW1 to Cold War.

[real plover]

Fair enough.

[thorny smelt]

Other tanks targeting Smasher

[stuck flare]

I love that tank lmao that's why I want it soo much

[stuck flare]

I just made a new account to play with that skin lol.

[wind burrow]

T25 pilot for 8.5k gold, worst deal in the history of all deals :D

[earnest mantle]

Nah when it was in crates it was worse
And vk 168 is a worse tank anyways

[solid gate]

P.44 Pantera is the best t8 tank. Change my mind

[hard cedar]

progetto 46 is the best t8 tank. change my mind

[frozen kite]

How about tiger 2

[hard cedar]

tiger sucks

overrated as hell only has armor against people who don't know how to press the 2 key

[balmy wagon]

Still Better than before

[stuck flare]

That's what you say, it's your opinion

[hard cedar]

overrated as hell is my opinion
but the fact that it has no armor against people who know how to press the 2 key is a fact

[thick trout]

"no armour"
On totally flat ground against med prammo with CS
:ok_hand:

[hard cedar]

*no armor against heavies/tds that know how to press the 2 key

[rigid thunder]

the tiger 2 was and always will be a mt killer. The armour obviously won't hold up against HTs and TDs, and the fact that they need prammo is already the cherry on top. Good mobility, good gun, and good armour makes the tiger 2 very good at its job.

[hard cedar]

I wouldn't call the tiger 2 mobility good

[rigid thunder]

Okay top speed at 38, heavium hp/t ratio at 12.1, and good traverse speeds. That's good enough. Well ig more emphasis goes to its traverse speeds, having it high makes the tiger 2 tough to circle, and turns corners well.

[hard cedar]

i dont think a 38 top speed good enough to chase most meds

[lyric oriole]

The maps are so small and tier 8 meds are so slow that it doesn't have Hard time

[hard cedar]

hm true most t8 meds are pretty slow

[thick trout]

Sidescraping and using gun depression against standard heavy prammo with CS

[hard cedar]

just look at that green turret

[rigid thunder]

yet it still has an autobounce mantlet and roof, against CS prammo

[thick trout]

Just look at the rng you need to hit that while it pummels you with its great gun...

[balmy wagon]

You can pen it's front turret tho, or the cupola with standard AP all day

[thick trout]

^

The cupola not an easy shot, even at close range. The turret front is pennable with prammo, but you are then sacrificing a lot of dpm (and even more when you hit the mantlet) against a tank with a very good gun.

Oh did I mention this is still a bad scenario for the tiger? It should be taken against meds not heavies but here it is still being extremely strong against heavies

[stuck flare]

the tiger 2 destroys a IS-3 if used correctly. (I've already destroyed some of them in my career with the tiger 2)

[hard cedar]

fun fact: just because you can kill a tank doesn't mean it's good
if the is3 is in hulldown good luck penning them

[stuck flare]

That's when my comrades come in

[balmy wagon]

Dude, what tier 8-9 tank can pen hulldown IS3?

[hard cedar]

^^^

[hard cedar]

this is with 334 heat

[thick trout]

"just look at the green cupola"

[hard cedar]

yes because a tiny cupola is comparable to the entire face of the tiger 2 turret

[thick trout]

And the IS3 has a much more disappointing gun and its armour only works in that one situation where's the Tigers armour works in pretty much every single situation you want it to with a fantastic gun

[ionic anchor]

I rly wish cupolas didn't exist lol

[hard cedar]

yes because hulldown totally isn't something you can do on almost every map

[balmy wagon]

Tank commander see nothing then

[thick trout]

6° of gun depression and a low hull means there are few positions it's useful in, and if the reds aren't in front of those positions you can't do anything. The tiger can bounce lots and hit back hard from almost anywhere on a map. The IS3 is much more specialised but the tiger is infinitely more versatile and so it's not an "overrated tank"

[balmy wagon]

Nonetheless, Emil 1 still better

[ionic anchor]

Emil 1 is a better AMX 50 100 in terms of armour

But the AMX is more mobile and have an accurate gun compared to the Emil 1

[hard cedar]

low hull is beneficial for hulldowning + you can go through tiger 2 turret with med prammo with cali

[balmy wagon]

It just can't perform well than emil 1, you can be flexible in any scenario with Emil 1, + engine booster

[hard cedar]

i dont think he was comparing 50 100 and emil

[balmy wagon]

I kno, I'm just said that Emil 1 still better than Tiger 2

[thick trout]

Low hull is not useful for hulldown at all, it means you have to poke at the very end of ridgelines. You want a tall hull and gun depression to use as many positions as possible. Meds already have less hp and armour as well as less alpha and pen. Using prammo (and CS which most meds shouldn't use) just makes them pathetic against the tiger. Sure you might get a few pens but no way are you surviving if he decides to take you out

[hard cedar]

is3 hulldowning is not typical hulldowning because you don't have gun depression
you want to hide your hull behind obstacles and a low hull makes that easier

[unique oasis]

why are autloaders all reduced to only 3 shots

[hard cedar]

there are some with more than 3 like the tvp or lorraine

[fast compass]

Autoloaders in blitz function so that they don't eliminate whole tanks at a time, unlike pc. So a compromise of either alpha or clip size had to be made. Ofc clip size was a better option.