vehicles-discussion

[gentle wasp]

ripoff "hellcat"

[brittle cradle]

Tanki online?

[fleet oriole]

Kpfz has a nice gun as well

[brittle cradle]

Pretty sure wg will censor me

It’s a pretty accurate ngl

Like 12 seconds of reload, fair mobility, your set dude

[late ledge]

Love being a tier V-VI TD or light with >600 health and facing tier VIIs with 1600 health. Mmf. Peak gaming

[gentle wasp]

club better

[wanton gulch]

European TD branch when

[fleet oriole]

Use French and British TDs

[wanton gulch]

Doesn’t count I mean the European tech tree

[static harness]

technically he wasn't wrong

[wanton gulch]

Well technically I don’t care about the British or French trees

[violet timber]

There's the German tds

[fleet oriole]

Tru

[violet timber]

I guess you could argue Russian as well

[fleet oriole]

Less so... but yes

[shell willow]

Should i go for m4a3

[lyric oriole]

It's up to you, it's not really good right now though

[celest dawn]

is any of the Chinese tanks good or worth getting?

[kindred thorn]

Big alpha, terrible accuracy
@celest dawn yeah i would say wz 121 and 113 are fun
the TD grind is apparently good

30 seconds? its 20

[thorny smelt]

I think T-29 is still a better choice as of this moment. M-VII-Yoh has a huge area of weakness at the hull even the M-III-Yoh that is easy to pen. At stock, I would still go for T-29.

[hard cedar]

the yoh line cooler

[plucky summit]

It's worth if you're going up the line ._.

[thorny smelt]

Well.... I think M-VII-Yoh should be treated like slow heavium and act as the second line and support tank behind the strong heavy tanks.

[lavish epoch]

I want to see Turbo armor on Tier 6 battle, anyone have pic?

[thorny smelt]

I hope I can send one for you. I love this tank as a light medium.

[thorny smelt]

@lavish epoch

[echo fern]

they seem fast

[thorny smelt]

It's just a decorated Strv 74

[echo fern]

ah

[terse sequoia]

That tank is not worthy of a legendary camo

[spare solar]

Sell this tank? I feel like selling it no matter what angle im in i get shot up fast as a light tank

[terse sequoia]

It’s rubbish, the normal one, believe it or not, has better stats. And no keep the sherif. Learn how to play it hulldown

[spare solar]

Tried that

[terse sequoia]

Idk what to tell you... just play it carefully then. Run with the mediums

[spare solar]

My other heavies survives longer

[terse sequoia]

In reality the e5 is a buffed up Pershing.

[echo fern]

my t1 heavy survives a bit against a t10

[thorny smelt]

I'm used to play paper-armor tanks like Pz. T-25 and a bit of speed buff really helps it to run away from other tanks. This Turbo reminds me of my beloved Pz. T-25.

[terse sequoia]

Turbo is not stonks.

[spare solar]

Im used to soaking damage and ram with heavies especially in my tiger2

[thorny smelt]

Well you can call it rubbish because you get easily killed because of the weak armor. It is all about how you play a tank. I can run away and find a better spot where I can peek and deal damage to the enemy. Explorer has similar armor to Cromwell, well it is based on Cromwell, with buff on reload time and lower traverse speed than the Cromwell. I get Ace Tank Mastery on Explorer.

[spare solar]

I have ace on my action x

Feels like a cheat tho everyone was ignoring me as i was next to them shooting

[echo fern]

lol

[spare solar]

They literally eyed down my whole time and not once looked at me

I WAS THE BLOODY CLOSEST TO THEM but instead of turning around and orbit me to oblivion they all stayed looking at my team

Like i was fighting noobs

[terse sequoia]

The action X is a cheat

[spare solar]

The turret is nice armour nice until someone pulls out special ammo

[echo fern]

i always have a team of noobs most of the time, except for when im in a plat then rarely the team is good

[strange thicket]

If you like your action x then you should have no problem with the sherif
And the sherif is actually better lol

[thorny smelt]

Basically they're too busy shooting at your teammates and you're the one flanked and get to kill most of the enemy tanks.

[spare solar]

F the dam sheriff i die sooo easily when i tried it

It can suck peanuts

[terse sequoia]

Exactly the action x is overrated, there is plenty more fish in the sea

[spare solar]

Yep which happened on the snow map

[strange thicket]

Well just get gud mate.
Turret is way tougher on the sherif than Action x
Maybe try to not show the hull?

[spare solar]

Tried that kv5 still slapped me

[strange thicket]

No way that happened.

[spare solar]

High ground mate i did not have it

[thorny smelt]

KV-5's primary ammo is APCR and HEAT is the premium ammo.

[strange thicket]

You must have showed your hull or positioned yourself wrong.
You must always hull down and have the high ground

[plucky summit]

At least for the penetration gun

[spare solar]

Still tho im not touching it

Im just gonna use my m6e5

[strange thicket]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[thorny smelt]

Oh yeah. I immediately upgraded to the top gun for 100 XP because of high pen.

[plucky summit]

In fact, if you ignore the cost of premium shells, using that in place of the penetration standard shells gives an advantage of accuracy, and DPM, with losses to only the alpha

[spare solar]

Wrong name

[thorny smelt]

I usually use premium shells on emergency situations or the enemy tank is dying. HE shells are always low in number in my ammo count.

[plucky summit]

I mean the premium shells for the stock gun

[thorny smelt]

Like I said, I immediately upgraded to the top gun.

[spare solar]

The reason why i said the kv got me because when i got my turret to only show the yoh ran away but the kv5 stayed

[plucky summit]

219mm suffices, even with APCR's normalization loss, and trades alpha for DPM and accuracy, almost like a smaller gun, just with a cost

[plucky rain]

KV 5 is bad
Don't buy

[echo fern]

what about the churchills?

[plucky summit]

Get Lowe, likely the best investment as a tier 8 that's always available

@echo fern what about them?

[echo fern]

are they any good?

[plucky summit]

Churchill I has an unrecognized meme gun, and it is overshadowed by T1 and BDR, and Churchill 7 is like a TOG that traded lots of HP for armor, so no viable. Churchill VI is a hardcase tank with a bad turret roof that must be hidden to remain viable against most standard and some premium shells

[echo fern]

ah. ok coz on my other acc i have a churchill I

[plucky summit]

Black Prince is the best churchill variant, with a fair amount of penetration and phenomenal DPM, with solid armor

[echo fern]

is it a premium? the black prince?

[plucky summit]

Nope, tier 7 brit heavy

[echo fern]

ok ill take a look now

found it. dont have the churchills yet on my main but im trying for the m6

[plucky summit]

Going for the Yohs?

[echo fern]

tbh now yeah. i was gonna go thro the m6 line but now the yohs

is it a good choice?

[plucky summit]

For now, yes, but you better be quick before WG might nerf some

[echo fern]

nerf?

[plucky summit]

Making stats of a tank worse for the sake of balance

[thorny smelt]

I got both the T-29 and M-VII-Yoh. T-29 is still a good choice even when it is in stock config. You can go for M-VII-Yoh but you need to immediately upgrade with whatever free XP you have.

[celest dawn]

name a good tier 7 tank everyone enjoy playing

[plucky summit]

Annihilator ofc

[thorny smelt]

Tiger I, T-29, Tiger P, KV-3, IS. Actually lots of them from the tech tree

[spare solar]

Im still going through the church hills

[plucky summit]

Turbo is slightly faster, and has spaced armor in lots of places (not easy to derp with KV-2, big pro), it only loses some turret armor (still, spaced armor can block), and accuracy

[thorny smelt]

I might go for several rounds of matches for Turbo to see where it fares. I got lucky with my first match and got 1st class tank mastery and 1st in damaged dealt.

[thorny smelt]

Wait...no wonder I'm still alive against KV-2

[plucky summit]

I thought it was obvious

[celest dawn]

is that a premium tank?

[plucky summit]

Indeed it is, but I still answered your question, you didn't specify what type :p

[spare solar]

Behold my hybrid nation

[celest dawn]

my bad

[thorny smelt]

I only realized it today. My last match last night was with Turbo.

[thorny smelt]

Lucky you Q_Q

[plucky summit]

Lucky me :p

[spare solar]

Lol

[plucky summit]

Seriously, I had to HE the cupola of an SU-100, had to oneshot, I landed it, and I had to hope VK 36 was skilled enough to hold the Smasher

Sometimes I love SU-152, but other times it wants you to quit the game for the day

[thorny smelt]

WTF are these 4 doing? Getting killed by Lupus and Smasher?

[plucky summit]

They're ever so nice to give me all the damage and create one of the most legendary battles of my career

I can't not thank them, they let stuff like this happen, 40%ers are good for da game

[thorny smelt]

More like heroes

[plucky summit]

I should be their friends

Who knows? Maybe they had a little mind game goin on where they did the strategy of "we take the shots while our top tier TD gets the damage, leading to a win"

[thorny smelt]

With skill and good handling of the tank, you can win against the powerful tanks

[plucky summit]

Without 40%ers, there's no 60%ers
This is why we play this game, for moments like these

No good without the "bad"

[spare solar]

Ay im in the 40% xd

[thorny smelt]

I'm at 51% but matched mostly below 50%-ers

[plucky summit]

Good job absorbing shots for your teammates 👍

[plucky rain]

Some tanks are just unplayable or outdated

[spare solar]

With pleasure

Not fun when the team is stupid im literally a giant tank soaking up damage instead of helping they run away

[plucky summit]

Well, you get those types of players on the enemy team too so you gotta be thankful

If you rid them from the game, you'll be matched up with pro players, and that's not good for you or the game

[spare solar]

That's also true so im grateful where i am i just wish some people just help tho

I met a lot of good and bad players

[plucky summit]

Even if both teams are fully composed of professionals, one has to win

The skill of the playerbase is relevant, and not completely defined by WR

[spare solar]

Accidentally pissed off one person saved someone from a 1 shot i ended up blocking his bullet at the same time saving him

[plucky summit]

People are selfish, they jump to the "WHY?!" instead of the "why?"

[spare solar]

I was in my 168

And yes an all caps😅

[plucky summit]

Fun fact about the 168, even the best gun in the game couldn't touch the right player

[spare solar]

I should have let that person die if he was gonna be rude

[terse sequoia]

When I see ur stats : No YoH

[spare solar]

Thx for showing i can block them too which i did not know

[midnight leaf]

the unicum will do the epic gamer demonic ritual and pen the turret ring

[plucky summit]

OP

Or they can just rush them

[spare solar]

Its usually tank destroyers or light tanks that rush me while the rest peak corners

[midnight leaf]

i don't think it has any benefit

they were probably just trying to make something unique

[plucky summit]

Send a formal message to the Yoh Company =3

[spare solar]

French light to med tanks are just paper with wheels

[plucky summit]

Yes, so you use their mobility and gun combination to be effective

[spare solar]

Learned that after i died around 50 times to broken tracks and fire on light tanks

[echo fern]

lol

[plucky summit]

Sadly it's a heavy medium like T26E4, and struggles to do anything but 1v1 meds

[spare solar]

Is that the sheriff one

I also noticed no one asked how i got over a mil coins now xd

[plucky summit]

No it's the Super Pershing

You probably sold a tank

[spare solar]

Where can I get that
And I did after i used it in three different matches

[plucky summit]

It's in the store under the "tanks" tab

Oof

[spare solar]

Gonna try it when i have enough gold

[plucky summit]

Don't, get the Lowe instead

[spare solar]

Same area?

[plucky summit]

Yup

[spare solar]

Ok

[terse sequoia]

I got the Lowë for 10 $ great value, pretty sure it came with premium and everything

[plucky summit]

Very great value, good tank, phenomenal credit earner

[spare solar]

I dont understand the peak around the corners and everything besides the French light tanks i like being support as being a heavy soaking up damage while shooting so everyone else can also shoot while i block

[plucky summit]

Lowe is a great support heavy too

I want the O-I, even if it's a premium, but sadly it's too large for the game

[spare solar]

I will get it then

I really don't care for damage i will still try to get the highest i find more joy being the medic etc on games😂

[plucky summit]

Lowe is good for damage too, probably the best heavy gun in tier 8

[spare solar]

Quick question which tank should i avoid tho

Im automatically gonna avoid the large tank destroyers and the panther destroyer kinda but not much as long their not invisible

[plucky summit]

Avoid in battle, or avoid to buy?

[spare solar]

In battle

[plucky summit]

Mostly spots where TD's can see you from where they usually are, avoid being too far in enemy lines, and avoid trying to engage multiple targets.

Play your advantages against one target, and account for where your allies or enemies are

@wintry pike oh it can sidescrape alright

It. Can. Wiggle the turret and let the troll armor do the work

[spare solar]

Thx and i shall

Imagine if the turret couldn't go through walls while turning

[plucky summit]

Eesh, if guns had actual physics

[spare solar]

Last times physics hit me i underestimated fall distance and got stuck facing at the ground with my 168 after trying to hop off a bridge

I regretted doing that as i watched the whole enemy team stared at me before killing me

[plucky summit]

If you get stuck like that, best bet is to rotate constantly to one side

[spare solar]

Only thing that moved was the turret the wheels was touching nothing

[plucky summit]

Just a best bet :p

[spare solar]

It was that city map where the bridge have slots that you can jump off of

[nocturne sage]

Ok so where did WG get the design of the hull of the t110e5. Doing some digging (aka Wikipedia) I came across the info that the t110 proposal 3 (t110e5) had wooden mock up with a bow shaped hull (a hull that similar that the chieftain mk 6). I feel like this would have been a better model than the current elliptical (egg shaped) hull we have now.

[plucky summit]

It would not serve better, the lower plate is large and would be a much easier target than the egg shaped hull the E5 currently has

See T95E6's hull for a decently accurate shape

[thorny smelt]

Another tank mastery for Turbo

[plucky summit]

Only 2nd class ._.

[thorny smelt]

I know. It's just my 2nd time playing with it.

[plucky summit]

mm

[thorny smelt]

I'm loving it

[dry talon]

is the engine located in the back of the turret? lmao

[thorny smelt]

Yup. All Yoh tanks have their engine behind the turret which is easy to hit and start it to go ablaze

[dry talon]

wonky tank design

[hollow notch]

Nope, only the tier 7 has the engine in the turret

[thorny smelt]

Oh alright

[onyx sluice]

No APCR? Brave.

[weak canopy]

when does anyone think smasher or annihilator will be sold again im tired of being murdered by them and I am gonna get them whenever they come out again

[dry talon]

ayo 0 creds gang

[onyx sluice]

You can get the Smasher from those crates in the shop. I think it's the Collect them all ones?

[weak canopy]

I will check when they are out again I think your right though

[spare solar]

Yes

[onyx sluice]

I hear you

[spare solar]

Their still out😂 never did leave the store

[strange thicket]

These are still out but they are a huge gamble
So you are wasting quite the gold if you are unlucky.
I spent 3k gold and got Def Mk. 1 which was enough for me to never bother with them again.
But that is just being extremely lucky

[spare solar]

I spent a lot of gold

A lot

[strange thicket]

Gambling for ye.

[spare solar]

Si better than the tickets at the store i actually got things back on here than irl

I spent enough gold to buy all the special tanks from the tank store 3 times over

Is it worth it? for me yes and no i got nice tanks

And i have a lot of premium access (extra coins) and credit stuff like experience

Last time i spent on the boxes i got the smasher and M60

[sick dagger]

When does wg sell T9 or T10 gold cars

[spare solar]

What car theres cars?

Light tanks?

[thorny smelt]

AMD Panhard 178B is a light tank with car wheels instead of tracks

[rigid thunder]

lmao what

[keen garnet]

Freedom

[hard cedar]

ghost ping moment

🥴

[solid gate]

The new camo really looks bad. And why is it called pride ?

[hard cedar]

cuz its pride month

[hollow moth]

I can't lie, it's a shame to name a bad camouflage as 'Pride' during the pride month.

[lavish epoch]

bc 25 ap engine/tracks first or gun first?

[spare solar]

Im gonna snipe with my yoh

[hard cedar]

no cringe

[calm drum]

Worthy Four#1131 was banned

[wanton gulch]

Yes

[onyx sluice]

Crusader.

[violet timber]

Crusader, even if the AMX is more fun

[graceful tree]

How come so many players have the vindicator?

[thorny smelt]

I think they can afford to buy it

[graceful tree]

Thought it was free for a sec

[lyric oriole]

Well it was free by random chance the first time it was around

Opening the weekly crates for the original event could get it free potentially

[hollow notch]

Hehehe that grind hurt

[lyric oriole]

I spent 1200 gold trying to get them and I got a better surprise lol

I got AC IV Sentinel

And then IS-6 in the next crate

So I was satisfied but not by the event

[hollow notch]

I just fully no lifed the event. Got 2 trash tier 7s out of it.

And even better, I sold the predator (for credits) at a time where they enforced the number of reclaimed tanks per year.
So I didn't even get 2500 gold out of it

[thorny smelt]

Any thoughts about the Chrysler and IS-2Sh?

[hollow notch]

Is2sh is bad, the Chrysler is acceptable

[thorny smelt]

Why is IS-2Sh bad? Is it worse than KV-5?

[hollow notch]

It's a bit better than the kv5 because it has a functional gun, but the armor on it is severely lacking

[thorny smelt]

How about the Chrysler?

[thorny smelt]

I guess KV-5 is better in armor but IS-2Sh has a better gun (122mm caliber)

[hollow notch]

Maybe, but the kv5 armor is severely lacking for what it is

[violet timber]

The only thing I find underwhelming about the Chrysler is the gun

[thorny smelt]

Well...they follow the specifications of the KV-5 armor of 180 mm

[thorny smelt]

The specifications are quite good to me TBh that makes me wanna get one

[acoustic ginkgo]

now what should i go now ?
gun, track or engine ?

[thorny smelt]

Gun

[manic carbon]

Gun

[hard cedar]

gun first on almost every tank

[wanton gulch]

I killed some yoh with a Sheridan, he called me a hacker cause I was faster and could out turn him 😂

[terse sequoia]

Imagine thinking people hack in blitz, you can only down load wall hacks, etc. but nothing that makes you faster or stronger.

[hard cedar]

Pretty sure wall hacks still count as hacks

[dull bolt]

got the armorprof in blitzhangar for ts5...

[hard cedar]

nice?

[calm drum]

T3RR0R1ST4#5942 was banned

[solid gate]

viking. good or bad? or decent enough

[gentle wasp]

pretty good tank. whether it's worth the price is up to you, but it's not just a straight up worse Emil

[static harness]

Apparently
The ace bar for the su 101 is somewhere below 1150 exp
No one plays this thing
But it's wonderful

[wise moth]

No one plays it because it's pretty much not wonderful. The DPM is pretty low for a tier 8 TD, and so is the alpha. The accuracy is meh, and the gun depression and rear mounted gun are also pain

[static harness]

Sure 2.5k is pretty low
But its still a 122mm
420 dmg isn't something everyone wants to take
Accuracy doesn't rally matter tbh
80% of my shots hit the target regardless of if I aim or not
Gun depression is a minus but the rear mount has its advantage
Also for the fact that it has this Russian troll armour (and gun)
And mobility
I enjoy it very much

[valid gale]

Rear mounted TDs only have an advantage if they have alpha or can point the gun down otherwise no that’s not an advantage

[static harness]

There are some nice walls on every map that you can go Hull down on because of how high the gun is mounted
That's a plus for me

[hollow notch]

Sure but why play that when heavies to it better.

Overkill pen? Useless because its, well, overkill.

[static harness]

Because I like it

[gentle wasp]

I do decent in it so it must be good

[static harness]

I'm talking about my experience with it though
Not the general player base
So that sarcastic comment can go elsewhere

[gentle wasp]

No I like it here but thanks for your feedback

[static harness]

Then I can't do anything
Enjoy your stay~

[gentle wasp]

🙂

[hard cedar]

Interesting

[spare solar]

Got ace on T2020

[strange thicket]

Might as well play a jagdpanther2.

[plucky summit]

Fellow T-2020 (hopefully pre-buff too) enjoyer

[spare solar]

Nope

I lied to look cool did get over 2k damage tho

[plucky summit]

=(

Not a 5k kolobanovs? =_(

[spare solar]

Whats that

Only ace i have is on my action

[plucky summit]

5,000+ damage with a 1v3 victory, that’s what I pulled off in T-2020 when it was “trash”

[spare solar]

First time i survived a fight like that i survived with 15 hp in my tiger 2

[plucky summit]

Cracked armor is cracked

[spare solar]

If i had to keep one tank and everything from the game is added irl with tank ik picking the tiger2 just to troll people

[hard cedar]

Tiger 2 is pramo magnet

[spare solar]

Sadly that's also true

Its fun tormenting people that doesn't have any on their tank😂

Tank destroyer ik for sure their always packing them

[hard cedar]

yes tiger 2 bullies if you dont have pramo

[plucky summit]

ISU bullies Tiger II

[echo fern]

what bullies crusader?

[plucky summit]

Everyone.

[echo fern]

damn

im screwed then

[spare solar]

Im going to pretend u didn't say that

[echo fern]

and what bullies SU-100Y?

if anything does bully the SU-100Y

[echo fern]

ow

so alot of tank bully mine like my su-100y, my t1 heavy, my crusader and churchill?

[hard cedar]

no

[echo fern]

oh

[plucky summit]

I did :3

[spare solar]

Dont let me come over there with my smasher

[solid gate]

Are your pfp, if your brain is smooth, then how do you know that things can slide off of smooth stuff? 1+ line to brain

[plucky summit]

Hehe me pen armor with standard shells with 286mm of pen

[spare solar]

I see

I will use my m60 then

[plucky summit]

Hehe me use mle 54

[echo fern]

fight time

[spare solar]

Maus

[plucky summit]

IS-7

[echo fern]

im running

[spare solar]

Gilli

[plucky summit]

Uh… still IS-7?

[spare solar]

Idk only X tanks i have is T22 and M60 xd

[plucky summit]

Oh lol, I have like 10

[spare solar]

Im going to finish the tiger tree so soon i will have E100

I already have E75

[plucky summit]

I’m crazy

I’m using M-VI-Yoh

[spare solar]

I suck with it even when i started sniping with it i died so idk how to use it

[plucky summit]

With what?

[hard cedar]

uh why are you sniping in a yoh

[plucky summit]

He doesn't have Yoh

[spare solar]

I do have an yoh

The first one of course

[neat nimbus]

Any worth of it?

[fallen cape]

god facehugger

[solid gate]

If you really like to sidescrape and love heavies then get it

[neat nimbus]

Oh turns out I have the e75 ts but is good at sidescrape

It has spaced armor which reduce the impact of HE shells

[tulip sundial]

Turtle Mk 1 is probably the worst tier 8 besides the T95E2

[lyric oriole]

They killed it after the nerf

It was fine in testing

[spark basin]

unfortunate

they might do the same thing to the ts-5

[lyric oriole]

59-Patton has more armor in the mini-turret than the Turtle Mk. 1 has on the upper strip

As for TS-5 I can talk about that because it's not in testing. From what I've seen it looks bad

[plucky rain]

AT 2 has more reliable armour than the Turtle Mk 1

[tulip sundial]

Fr

[plucky rain]

The Nokia 3310 in blitz

[tulip sundial]

Even if they nerfed that top bar to 220 it would be far more viable

I find it amazing how anyone defended that tank, like bruh. It doesn’t have the mobility to get to reliable positions, so if you pick the wrong spot you lose, but also as soon as you’re spotted you have to relocate at 20 km/h

[spark basin]

feels like a bunch of tanks are in balancing hell

[lyric oriole]

It also has poor camo rating

[tulip sundial]

It’s only redeeming feature is how cute it is

The gun is good but it’s in such a bad chassis that it drags the guns effectiveness down as well

I understand the lower plate nerf, make it a bigger weak spot for lower pen tanks to pick at, the top bar nerf was not needed

[plucky summit]

FT AC ._.

[tulip sundial]

That... is not cute

[plucky summit]

Well it can do this and waddle

[spark basin]

which tanks do you think look cute in your own opinion

[tulip sundial]

Ayo lemme just put a wall on this WW1 tank chassis

[lyric oriole]

UC-2Pdr

[tulip sundial]

I think the turtle Mk 1 looks chubby, I think it’s kinda cute

[plucky summit]

The UC can sit in water to where it's be filled with it until the hull wall is passed, then it starts drowning

[tulip sundial]

UC-2Pdr has cute wheels

[plucky summit]

Surely the T18 is cute for you then

[lyric oriole]

T18 is ugly

[plucky summit]

For them, since they think the chub build like Turtle is cute

[lyric oriole]

I also think Turtle is ugly

[tulip sundial]

Yeah I thought the t18 is kinda cute, the chub look

[plucky summit]

AT-1 kinda givin me tick vibes

[tulip sundial]

It looks like a CV/33 which is adorable

[plucky summit]

There's Cruiser I, the tier 2 KV-5 with its two little baby guns

[tulip sundial]

That’s an ugly tank

[lyric oriole]

No that's just a Mini T-28 Mod 1940

[plucky summit]

D1, little Arnold.

[lyric oriole]

Doesn't have the derp anymore

Medium 2 looks good with the Mad Games camo

[plucky summit]

Pz. II J with its solid little build

[tulip sundial]

Medium 2 is so tall it’s scary... Lady Dimitrasqe

[plucky summit]

Medium II, T2 Medium but with lots of chub

[tulip sundial]

I love the 2 tone camo’s

[plucky summit]

It's also extremely tall on its tracks

[tulip sundial]

The mad games and Mötley tarp are the two I think of

[plucky summit]

Woo yeah just got KV-5

[lyric oriole]

Noice

[plucky summit]

How about AMX 38 with its cone head?

[lyric oriole]

Looks bad

[plucky summit]

Well at least it's fit to crawl up Faust's missile base

T2 Light's turret position hurts my existence

It might actually look cooler if it was backed up

[lyric oriole]

It's fine to me

[tulip sundial]

The Souma S.35 looks so funny, tall and skinny

[thorny smelt]

Such a slow tank for a medium

[plucky summit]

It's actually a heavy, a post-5.5 heavy

They just classified it incorrectly, and then proceeded to make the armor irrelevant

[thorny smelt]

Well in reality it is a medium, at least in World of Tanks PC

[plucky summit]

Pop-Quiz:

Effectively, which tank has the largest "cupola"?

[hard cedar]

30b?

[plucky summit]

Naw

[plucky rain]

M4 54? Stock ARL 44?

[plucky summit]

Nope nope

[thorny smelt]

T95E6?

[plucky summit]

M3 Lee

[hard cedar]

huh

[plucky summit]

xP

[spark basin]

this is a certified td moment

[plucky summit]

Uncertified TD 😢

[tiny sail]

BDR and Panzer 35t

[plucky summit]

BDR G1 B hecken pill with a turret

[thorny smelt]

AMX ELC bis and E 25

[plucky summit]

S35 CA is such a gimmicky TD

[covert dagger]

There's a curse on the M-V-Yoh,
no I'm not talking about it's looks.

[plucky summit]

Then what

[spark basin]

i like the small HEable weakspot on the yoh's turret mechanism

[plucky summit]

I do too, good bait for shots

[paper pike]

Has anyone seen if the kpf got a mobility buff?

[covert dagger]

Its still the same.

[echo fern]

so i have this problem... my camo is cursed or something?

[plucky summit]

You're using a two-part camo, that's normal

[echo fern]

no its feather camo and galaxy camo. both differently selected

[plucky summit]

They separate two camos, one for the turret and gun, and one for the hull

As far as I can tell, that's Jupiter

[echo fern]

its just weird coz i went into battle with one camo and when the batlle finished i had two on my tank

[tulip sundial]

That’s the Jupiter camo, I have it on my Cenrurion 5/1

[echo fern]

sry i see it now

[plucky summit]

You had a camo set on one map type, like desert, then came out from a different map type, like winter

[dapper brook]

From india anyone

[echo fern]

nope. im from *****

[wanton gulch]

Gib Sav m/43

Look how majestic it be

I want my Sav

Stormartillerivagn m/43 gib wargaming

[echo fern]

looks cute

[wanton gulch]

Yes, 105 mm gun

[echo fern]

thats bigger than the t1 heavy

[wanton gulch]

Yes, I want this to be a premium (no crates, just with gold or $9.99)

[echo fern]

ouch for those non premiums

[wanton gulch]

Blitz needs to bring back the derp tradition

Sad thing is only 36 were built 😢

I mean the tank is in PC, so why not blitz

[echo fern]

true

we r

[valid gale]

Blitz got rid of derps for a reason

[echo fern]

oh?

[plucky summit]

Blitz doesn't wanna focus on low tiers

[wanton gulch]

That is where the art of begging comes in

[valid gale]

They also removed a lot of low tiers for good

[wanton gulch]

In a alt universe wargaming purges the high tiers

[plucky summit]

They didn't, they just rid the tier Is...

[valid gale]

Looks at t82 and the French one

[plucky summit]

Oh you mean derp guns

@wanton gulch just get a Chi-To SPG

[wanton gulch]

I hate Japanese SPGs they suck imo

[plucky summit]

They're not actually SPGs, they're TDs

[wanton gulch]

Same thing, but I won’t stop till the Sav is added

[plucky summit]

They're really not the same thing, just give this a try

[wanton gulch]

I did, I hate it, #Savforblitz

[plucky summit]

Sav will be the same thing =)

[wanton gulch]

No Sav is special

[plucky summit]

It'll be nothing like PC's in Blitz

[wanton gulch]

I don’t care

I will make sure my voice is heard, may RNGesus bless me

[valid gale]

Many others tried and failed badly

[plucky summit]

Use SAu 40, that's the closest thing

All I can offer is a hug

[wanton gulch]

Failure may lead to more failures, but it will lead to success eventually

[plucky summit]

It really won't.

Unless you adapt like that saying would imply that you do, and give them a huge sum of money to add it, they'd gladly will

Even then that wouldn't be a sure-shot

[wanton gulch]

I don’t believe in failure, I will not give wargaming money to add my dream tank, I’ll continue till I succeed

[valid gale]

looks at the Strv 103 pile of broken dreams

[plucky summit]

Have fun continuing, just ask for Strv 103, that's a shot to get that in the line, and more eye-grabbing

[wanton gulch]

Devs already said no Strv 103 as those mechanics aren’t compatible with blitz

The Sav has no special mechanics, therefore it can get in game

[valid gale]

Except Strv 103 is a largely demanded tank that even they had to address it won’t come so why would they care for a small TD

[plucky summit]

It'll be a loooong time before they need another tier 4 for their battle pass

Heck they'll probably just cycle through them all again, making it indefinite

[wanton gulch]

I’ll make sure my voice is heard, I won’t stop till wargaming gets their shit together and actually listens to the community

[plucky summit]

As far as I know, you're the only one

You'll have to wait before they nerf the Smannihilasher duo before you can ask for anything else the community might even care enough about

[wanton gulch]

……… -_-

[plucky summit]

This is probably as effective as me asking for MS-1 back :/

Also ez hammer Erisu

[wanton gulch]

No racial slurs reeeeeeee

[plucky summit]

Don't worry, the mods'll get to it

[gentle wasp]

This mindset is frightening

[thick trout]

It sounds a lot like the "stupidity is doing the same thing twice and expecting two different results" saying lol

[plucky summit]

That’s the definition of “insanity”

Doing the same thing expecting different outcomes

[kindred wren]

me rolling a dice and turning insane because it doesn’t yield the same results

[gentle wasp]

when you realize you were always insane and are just proving it by blaming the dice

[kindred wren]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-pain-harold-happy-sad-pain-smiling-gif-17502174

[gentle wasp]

I like lux 2.0. The update brought some nice gifs, hope they don’t get powercrept over time.

[kindred wren]

In four years you’ll look back in nostalgia when the completely unnecessary feature of spamming and mass-pinging is introduced just to get some “content” out there

[gentle wasp]

Well we already knew that the essays serve that purpose now.

[kindred wren]

Got me there XD

[fluid parrot]

Finally

[solid gate]

mk6 worth it?. i dont play alot tier 10

[lunar valve]

its a good tank

[solid gate]

but is it worth it tho cause i dont play tier 10 that mutch

i play mostly tier 6-7-8

[manic carbon]

Well if you don’t play tier ten much, then you aren’t going to play the Mk.6 much are you? If this is the case, it’s probably best if you look to buy a tank in the tiers you frequent more, to get more value for your money

[solid gate]

yeah you are right i think imma buy emil viking

[thorny smelt]

Play it for credit grinding

[manic carbon]

That is your choice, but I think it is overpriced

[solid gate]

it might be but if it didnt have the viking skin then i woudnt buy it

[dreamy osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/416576885523349504/852860796865478666/FB_IMG_1620342391160.png

When do we get this?

[hollow moth]

I mean, it's not a bad invention at all.

It's way lighter due to the lack of armored hull, way cheaper for this same reason and... I can't see any other good points about it.

[lyric copper]

imagine the recoil tho

[hollow moth]

Damn...

[lyric copper]

do you have free exp for the BL-10? If yes, get ISU, if no, Conway

(NEVER USE FREE EXP TO RESEARCH TANKS)

grind it then, get the ISU

[plucky rain]

Which one is better, Chieftain Mk 6 or Super Conqueror?

[timber river]

Ik this tank is trash but what equipment should i use for Panther m10

[violet timber]

That depends on personal preference, super conq has more armor, chieftain has more mobility

[balmy wagon]

Chief for better gun

[plucky rain]

Is that like comparing between a Cent 5/1 or a Chimera?

[violet timber]

Pretty much

[balmy wagon]

It doesn't make any sense

[plucky rain]

Chieftain only has turret armour
SC has some hullarmour

[balmy wagon]

Chimera has none

[violet timber]

Chieftain doesn’t really have turret armor

[hollow notch]

._.

It's a tough pen for a lot of prammo...

[violet timber]

Maybe I’ve gotten lucky up to this point but I’ve never had a problem going through, as well as it having an ez pen hatch

I still prefer the super conq because of its armor advantage

[charred vigil]

Chieftain turret armor isn't reliable its just troll when using it properly

[balmy wagon]

Who the hell play MK 6 as a full hulldown tank and it's just a typical damage farmer, if you're good enough you'll probably want chief mobility and gun and don't want super conqueror trash gun handling

[wanton gulch]

European TD branch when

Maybe Finnish TDs?

[charred vigil]

im not sure what a finish td line would even be based on

[wanton gulch]

Shit, most Finnish tanks were captured ._.

Well that’s depressing

[lyric copper]

find some actual Finnish TDs

[wanton gulch]

Cant every Finnish tank was captured

[charred vigil]

Yeah but before they were captured what were they?

Oh wait I see they are just refurbished tanks from other countries. I was thinking wait a minute did the finish even make tanks

[arctic gate]

Vk 90, cheiftain or super conq?

im rlly conflicted because the chieftain is in the shop rn and i dont wanna regret it

[cerulean egret]

Conqueror

[hard cedar]

depends on what you want, chieftain has the best gun and best mobility (out of the 3)

[tardy arrow]

Chieftain and super conq are both meh

E6 are better than both

[hard cedar]

isnt e6 just an e5 with slightly better mobility and worse everything else

[violet timber]

The E6 is not better than the super conq or Cheiftain

[plucky rain]

E6 turret seams are weak in that regard

[arctic gate]

I want the super conqueror

When does it usually come into the stores

[plucky rain]

Maybe next year or this year end auction

[arctic gate]

I know chieftain was in the store in july last year so its a pretty good gauge that its come out around this time

[tardy arrow]

Chieftain and super conq are just worse e5s with no saving factors.

Chieftain has trash armor, mobility and a easy pen cupola. The only thing that is good is playing hulldown, but you can’t even do that against tanks like e5s is4s krans bc the pen is horrendous. So you try playing against meds but it’s slow and big, and meds have an even easier time shooting your cupola.

E6 solves all the problems of a chieftain with its 374 heat pen with Cali, an actual troll cupola that’s hard to pen and even harder to hit because of your mobility

And super conq is a bigger e5 with 10 gun dep, but worse in everything else

[lyric copper]

but there is one saving grace:

damm the T95E6 looks HORRENDOUS

[tardy arrow]

True, chieftain and super conq look pretty good esp with legendary camo

[lyric copper]

the hull be fine

the turret is some otherworldly ABOMINATION

[earnest mantle]

E6 is huge and doesbt have a laser gun
Also super conq takes the e5 armor and takes away most of the weakspots and it adds hesh
E5 is better but still

[lyric copper]

S.Conq counters mostly HE spam lol

[tardy arrow]

E6 gun is the same as e5 and its smaller than chieftain and super conq

[arctic gate]

So if i was to want a tier x heavy premium/collector that makes credits

[tardy arrow]

E6 or vk 90

[arctic gate]

whats a good option? I know the amx 54 will be in the shop at some point

ahh aght cool ill skip the chieftain ig

[hard cedar]

m4 54 will definitely be in crates

[lyric copper]

if you want a more aesthetic E6, chieftain

[plucky rain]

What sort of player should buy:

1. chieftain mk 6
2. Super conqueror
3. T95E6

Medium or heavy or tank destroyer player?

[violet timber]

Cheiftain and E6 are more of meds than heavies, the Super conq is more of your traditional hull-down heavy

[solid gate]

No

[tardy arrow]

Obv if you gonna buy a heavy you should be a heavy player, but all players should be able to play heavies cuz that’s the easiest class next to tds

Chieftain can’t rlly play against meds, it’s too slow, big and cupola too easy for med guns

[solid gate]

They're both heavies but they have good mobility, that makes them faster heavies not mediums also the chief is one of the best tier 10s in the game easy. Buy it if you are thinking about it

[plucky rain]

Do you think it's dumb to prefer super conqueror than chieftain Mk 6?

[violet timber]

Not at all

[solid gate]

Not really, it has better armour but a much worse gun

[plucky rain]

Or prefer the chieftain Mk 6 over the super conqueror?

[violet timber]

It all comes down to what you like more

[plucky rain]

Just wanna think which one is more noob friendly because only have 18 000 gold

[solid gate]

I prefer the mk6 as it has much better gun handling, DPM, mobility ect

[violet timber]

The super conq is more your traditional heavy. The Cheiftain is more of a med bullier

[tardy arrow]

Super conq is most nub friendly out of the 3

[solid gate]

Chief isn't exactly noob freindly, it's like a premium e5 with slightly better stats all round, S. Conq has very good armour but the gun is pretty crap for a tier 10 heavy with 400 alpha

[plucky rain]

Pantouflee said that Super Conqueror is coming to shop this month
Then Chieftain Mk 6 is already in shop
AMX M4 54 is in crates no doubt

From Pantouflee's discord channel:

[tardy arrow]

Chieftain is a worse e5, it isn’t noob friendly because it’s so mediocre

[solid gate]

It's a better e5, better dpm, gun, mobility and armour

[atomic geode]

I agree

[violet timber]

It has worse armor

[solid gate]

It has worse hull armour on a flat but that's all that the e5 has over it

[plucky rain]

Is it just me or I pen Chieftain Mk 6 turret quite easily?

[violet timber]

E5 has better hull and turret armor in almost every scenario

[atomic geode]

Hey you guys play on eu?

[plucky rain]

Turret looks a bit like cracked glass

[solid gate]

Yes

[violet timber]

HEable cupola

[plucky rain]

Shaking my head

[solid gate]

look at it hulled down plane, also please could you dm me pantoufle's discord link?

[tardy arrow]

You can’t be serious

[solid gate]

https://tank-compare.blitzstars.com Compare them yourself

[violet timber]

Load up the Prammo

[plucky rain]

Looks like the turret only works when hulldown and no enemy tank destroyers are shooting at it, and enemies are not aiming for cupola

[violet timber]

You can also pen the cupola with HE

[solid gate]

You can pen e3 with HE

[plucky rain]

Nutcracker

[violet timber]

That's a lot harder to do and requires RNG

[violet timber]

That's a bit unfair considering the Ho-Ri can pen everything in game with it's prammo

[tardy arrow]

Mobility - e5 has much better p2 weight ratio and that’s what matters. Chieftain almost never gets to top speed.

Armor - e5 has better armor in literally everything. Even hulldown chieftain has an easy to hit cupola and heatable gun mantlet.

Gun and dpm are almost the same. Also a huge draw back for the chieftain is it’s terrible pen and apcr standard ammo. So you have to use calibrated and that just lowers your dpm whilst still having worse pen than the e5. With cali chieftain only has 100 more dpm than e5.

You’re also forgetting that e5 has the special consumables. Literally the only thing that chieftain has over e5 is cheap hesh and gun dep. But you can’t even hulldown in it against heavies bc weak pen and turret

[manic carbon]

Chieftain armour overall isn’t a strong point.
Sure, you can pull off bounces when you’re on a ridgeline or hulldown utilising the turret, but it isn’t entirely reliable. You have the cupola (which people can also pen with HE) and the armour around the gun can also be shot through.
Hull is pretty worthless, you can pull off the occasional bounce from the upper hull. Side can be overmatched, and you can pen HE through the side by shooting through the engine deck.

I have only ran rammer in Chieftain, and I haven’t had much issue overall with penetration. Dispersion allows you to be consistent with weakpoints, and I am not putting myself in frontline positions and trying to fight superheavies head on for example.

I do not think the Chieftain is inherently bad, I think it’s solid, in random battles at least. I find it to be an enjoyable tank there, but it is not something I would take into competitive games.
Yes, the E5 exists, but that tank honestly is overtuned and needs toning down. I do not think we should bash on the Chieftain too much for not being at the ludicrous level the E5 is at.

And for the comment above, yes you can pen the E3 with HE. But that is a very small hatch, small target.

[valid gale]

The penetration isn’t really an issue with chief because of the fire rate but it will show its harm often the mk6 also has an extremely weak roof that can be penned and even buttered through frontally through the gun by a CS E5 Mk6 is also inferior in speed because of a lack of speed boost which allows E5 to straight up pass it chief is also shorter and this allows it to use its gun depression to penetrate better in face hugs

[graceful wedge]

i think the Obj. 140 is better than that whacky t62a

[tardy arrow]

More enjoyable, yes. Better? No.

[graceful wedge]

More enjoyable, yes. Better? Yes.

no the MS-1 is more enjoyable

[tardy arrow]

Tell me when you’re averaging more than 2.5k in it

[solid gate]

2.5k in?

[earnest mantle]

I dont think we disagree here, however I think the more interesting comparison is with the super conq as they are both balanced similar
Mobility-e5 wins with speed boost and better p2w. Super conq only advantage is much better reverse speed at 16 vs 12 on e5
Armor-super conq has loads of external armor on the front of the tank, including the upper frontal plate, making most of the tank difficult to pen with heat rounds, improved dramatically with the turret weakspot buffs that fixed major issues, e5 is vunerable to high pen heat rounds on both turret and hull, not to mention overmatchable drivewheels
Gun-e5 is more accurate although super conq is much better on move, sconq has hesh but lower apcr pen while e5 has 340 heat pen, sconq has 10 degrees of gd as well
Overall e5 is better but I would rather have sconq for pubs just bc of how good the super conq is frontally armor wise

[tardy arrow]

Super conq is better hulldown but honestly e5 is more versatile. If you want to have a good time hull down then super conq for sure but if you want to be able to adapt to the game more then e5

[spare solar]

Just got this

[neat spindle]

Should I buy the stb or obj268 first? Just researched them both but only have credits for one

[arctic gate]

stb1

[half kayak]

268

[fleet oriole]

268 is the better TD, Stb is the better medium 🙂

[scarlet forge]

I want the tear X in shop

[limber axle]

Is the 75 or the 77 on the Churchill VII better?

[covert dagger]

WG needs to add the Shell Ejection System to some of the Russian and French tanks.

[spare solar]

You just found out? Its also on the 2020

[plucky summit]

That's the only reason I bought it, then I later sought to prove it wasn't bad

[spare solar]

Whats up with the 2020 idk if my skills gone to trash or what lately i get no bounces now when i get shot at

[plucky summit]

You gotta position correctly, hulldown or just hide LFP

[solid gate]

Are M41 Good?

[keen garnet]

Yup, M41 is good

[solid gate]

What about T49

Or T92E1

[keen garnet]

T49 is just for memeing with the 152mm

T92E1 and Sheridan are pretty good tanks when played correctly

[gentle wasp]

What’s this based on?

[sacred trail]

Seeing the numbers on the X and Y-axis, I’d say it’s comparing every tier 10’s average win rate to the number of games played in it over an undetermined timeframe

The fact that the 183 is in the lower-right pains me a lot since I want to have fun with it, but everyone always tunnels the 183 in the room

[inland ivy]

Don't get how E5 is in the weak half

[gentle wasp]

Yea I’m wondering where he’s getting the data from. First place I checked was blitzstars tank compare and that’s not it.

@sacred trail That’s kind of understandable given the reputation the 183 has for ruining the fun for others. No one wants to be on the receiving end of 1300, and the tank being objectively underperforming makes it easier for people to just tunnel and kill.

[sacred trail]

It’s only famous for the alpha and sinks basically everywhere else. How does one actually play it right?

[gentle wasp]

Pretty much an ambush tank. You need to be close enough to be able to actually hit things, but you also don’t want to be too close and unable to disengage and reload safely.

Basically, if you’re not camping you’re headed in the right direction.

[plucky summit]

I tend to snipe, my accuracy serves me well, gotta be patient

I often secondline though

[zealous anchor]

M60 or M48 better?

[sacred trail]

So either try to camp them out or follow the nearest heavy?

[plucky summit]

M60, credits :3
M60 has a better gun, trading that for a bit of camo and dispersion on turret rotation

@sacred trail avoid enemy heavies, which your heavies are probably heading towards

[sacred trail]

So, follow the lights? Easily penetrable with AP/HE in most cases, but also capable of circling me dizzy.

That always seems to happen when I cross a BatChat the wrong way

[plucky summit]

Keep your distance from literally every enemy, your reload should tell you that

[sacred trail]

So how far back should I trail everyone else? Should I even try trailing from way behind, or should I just camp?

[plucky summit]

Maybe not so much as trailing, but getting into a position that lets you fire at anyone they'd be likely to spot at

Mostly stereotypical TD camp positions

[sacred trail]

Flat field maps like Falls Creek make it possible, while city maps like New Bay and Himmelsdorf make it impossible to snipe because the place is crowded. Hilly maps like the top of Middleberg and point C in Port Bay is a bit of a Catch-22 since you either land a snapshot on who you aim at, or you miss and get punished. And even if you do hit, it’s not a guarantee that a 183 shot is gonna penetrate unless it’s splashing HE

[plucky summit]

I go medium side on Himmelsdorf, and for New Bay, I also snipe for mediums

[sacred trail]

What about Port Bay? Everyone pushes the hills on C when I can’t maneuver, more or less snapshot, with the 183 with constant hills

[plucky summit]

I sit in a special spot on Port Bay, but it's only good on South side, it's where it almost goes into the little section secluded by small hills, but can hit targets in the corner, as well as move out to shoot anyone near C

[sacred trail]

So drive into the deep corner in the hills opposite the river from C and camp there?

[plucky summit]

Definitely don't go deep corner, that's the meds job xD

[sacred trail]

So camp out from where that green triangle is? Does it work for either spawn?

[plucky summit]

No, the North spawn isn't as accommodating, but you can expect to sit on the bridge's roadway because North's heavies tend to be more able to take C

[sacred trail]

So from the north spawn, stay on the bridge, and use that triangle position from south spawn?

[plucky summit]

Yeah, unless on North your heavies don't push, and take position, also don't be there and hug the hill more if the allied mediums don't hold hill

[sacred trail]

Which hill? The one on the riverbank? That’s where I normally end up going with both the 183 and the Grille

[plucky summit]

The one below the bridge road, the corner that heavies turn

[sacred trail]

Can the 45 degree turret traverse on the 183 still hug around the bridge foundation and quickly withdraw after shooting?

[plucky summit]

Not sure, I doubt it'll be good to shoot most positions around the medium corner

[candid lark]

Is obj704 a good tank?

[open solstice]

Yes

[candid lark]

Is adrenaline a good consumable for it?

[thick trout]

This isn't actually a very useful position at all, you get maybe one shot on a med crossing (who's most likely long gone before you get time to aim but it's possible if they are slow and you are lucky) and then you are stuck just "covering" the meds who are hulldown and at long range. You can't shoot people at C without exposing hugely because of the dips in the ground, and you definitely can't cover any push through C. Too many times I've seen 2-3 TDs camp there while the reds can easily push up and crossfire the green heavies then move on to finish the rest with more tanks and hp. Also, if your meds do win the corner you are useless and have to reposition again. You might be able to get a couple shots in but there are no reliable useful shots available at all until your team is dead or dying.

[candid lark]

Cuz i hate burning money for nothing

[storm robin]

Why would you get 704 when 140 exists

[open solstice]

Adrenaline is good for it but you won't need it that much
You will most of the time play second line or camp
Save adrenaline for emergencies like some meds rushing you

[thick trout]

Don't camp in the 704... Pls...

[open solstice]

I mean
The armor is good
But they will play aggressively when they learn the tank lol

[gentle wasp]

That’s highly doubtful

[candid lark]

I already learned that

[echo moss]

Is the tankenstein worth 3500 gold ?

[candid lark]

I sometimes do that when i am low tier

[covert kite]

Hi WG . Can we have an own reload button for autoloader tanks on Mobile ? I dont wanna mistakenly reload when i want to change shells on Shells bar . its got me lost dmg sometime and it so frustrated at the same time . PC player will never have this issue like Touch player . Pls think about this WG

[kindred wren]

You can enlarge the ammo-bar to reduce the chances of you tapping the wrong shell

[covert kite]

still made that mistake sometime . its rare to made that mistake but still . its better to have an own button for it . make it optional so we can have a new style and old style reload .

[lyric oriole]

@covert kite don't ping the Wargaming staff for that

[timid yew]

what do you think is the best medium tank line to grind?

[hard cedar]

140 or leo!

[lyric oriole]

Neither

T-62A is superior to 140 in about every way right now

[violet timber]

STB or T-62A

[storm robin]

Arguably a good first T10 med is the T-62A, but I went with the Prog 65 and 121 first XD

[lyric oriole]

The E 50M line is easy, but E 50 M struggles a bit. STB-1 is indisputably the best tier 10 med right now

[manic carbon]

I personally find the STB-1 a little boring, but it is a great tank.
E 50 M I find fun, E 50 I did not enjoy as much though

[storm robin]

I’d argue in favour of the 140 as a tank for the more aggressive user, mostly because the hull armour is actually useable and it has outstanding gun handling on the move, which makes it an outstanding flanker, but the 62A is better for the average player tbh

[timid yew]

and what do you think about the fv4202?

[violet timber]

You need a lot of game knowledge to get it to work, and even then it’s really an average tank

[storm robin]

It’s good, but the issue with it is that it doesn’t have proper prammo - if you want a high alpha T10 med, the 121’s a better bet

[lyric oriole]

It's good but you need to be very experienced to use it to the best of it's ability

FV4202 is a tank that rewards a seasoned player

[timid yew]

hmm okay

[storm robin]

The 140, you mean? Yeah, it’s certainly more of a uni tank

[manic carbon]

It gets a lot of hate but as said above, you need to be pretty experienced.
The 4202 is such a fun tank to drive around in random battles once you nail it down

[storm robin]

Tbh go for the E 50M for a first T10 med, the armour makes it a more reliable choice - arguably the STB is better, but the grind is horrific

[violet timber]

I think the only problematic tank in the E50Ms grind is the E50

[fleet oriole]

There’s a heat gun

[lyric oriole]

Panther 2 can be a bit of a pain

But the stock grind isn't so bad

[storm robin]

Or rather, the E 50 grind… which is why I went with the 140 for the obligatory brawling med instead

[manic carbon]

The grind to the STB-1 I would definitely not recommend for a new player.
Japanese mediums you really need some experience in the game before you try to go through them in my opinion

[storm robin]

Yes, but if you’re using the HEAT gun, you might as well go for a Leo 1 or something

[timid yew]

what is actually the main thing a medium tank needs to have?

[lyric oriole]

They are supposed to be a class about balance in most areas so that's not a question easily answered

[storm robin]

Mobility, good gun, turret armour - that’s the magic formula for Blitz

[lyric oriole]

They need to have adaptability

[violet timber]

But the 140 is pretty much garbage when compared to the T62A or Leo which it mostly competes with due to its bad armor, good gun and good mobility

[timid yew]

stb seems like a fun tank :)

[violet timber]

The grind is not fun

[hard cedar]

no the grind is fine except for the sta

[fleet oriole]

Tru

[lyric oriole]

The grind isn't that bad, the hardest parts are stock Chi-Ri and stock Type 61

[timid yew]

what makes the grind so terrible?

[storm robin]

The 140 imo is a Leo with less mobility and firepower in exchange for trollish hull and turret armour, and tbh it’s an excellent tank for flanking and side-hugging heavies

[storm robin]

Jap tanks have zero effective armour until the STB, especially the Chi series and Type 61

[violet timber]

The tier 8 tank mostly

[manic carbon]

Japanese meds aren’t straightforward to play getting to STB, which is partly why they get hated and you see many people fail in them.

[storm robin]

The issue is that the Jap meds change so much between tiers - the Chi-Ri and STA have very different playstyles, for example

They’re just not a very cohesive med line, unlike say the Russian meds and the E-50M line - they’re more refined in the sense that they all share certain characteristics that mean that you know what to expect for the T10

[lyric oriole]

@storm robin please use the full nation name when referring to the vehicles, Jap is a slur used in the states

[storm robin]

Alrighty then, but in any case you get what I mean - the Japanese tbh have a better TD line for newer players

I mean, I’m kind of biased in that I have the 121, 62A and the 140, but those grinds were honestly easier - the only big hurdle is the 120, imo

[civic dome]

It’s to easy to get mastery with the new tank

[thick trout]

It always happens with new tanks, once there's enough data to get a rolling average of max xp it will even out (and probably end up it being higher than most tanks because they seem to have a high skill cap)

[covert kite]

ok . will my feedback noticed ?

[hard cedar]

probably not

[lyric oriole]

It could, they do view all the channels but it's more likely to be seen in a channel like #836286337182072852

[onyx sluice]

Am I the only one that thinks the magnification on binocular mode should be manual?

[hard cedar]

you can change that in settings

[onyx sluice]

How? I've never seen it in settings.

[hard cedar]

I'm 99% sure there's a setting for it in the controls section

[onyx sluice]

I checked, I cannot see it.

[hard cedar]

it's only on pc iirc

[onyx sluice]

:(

[hard cedar]

🥶

[lost lava]

Hello ,
MV-I-Yoh or T57 heavy ?

[keen garnet]

Depends

M-VI-Yoh for the insane clip on the 120mm
T57 for damage farming

If you wanna run the 105mm on the Yoh, just get the T57

[sudden terrace]

maybe add some kind of tier vi bt 42
as european premium

ik bad idea, and its hard to write here without getting negative responses

[tulip sail]

Unfortunately wg has already said no

[real nacelle]

On what tank is BLITZ9000 based on? It does not look like Hellcat, nor T20 or Pershing family.. Is it a unique tank? Or did i miss something?

[kindred thorn]

blitz 9000?

[violet timber]

It’s based on the Hellcat

[real nacelle]

So they made Hellcat into medium tank, buffed up it's armor and did sime nice reskinning. This might be the first battlepass tank since Icebreaker worth going for

[gentle wasp]

what? it looks terrible and the tank itself is going to be a good amount worse than the hellcat

[wide edge]

nerf death star

[hard cedar]

death star already sucks

[violet timber]

What would you need about it? It’s already under powered

[wide edge]

@violet timber underpowered? when hitting me for 1.3k and shooting perfectly accurate? yep underpowered

[violet timber]

Perfect accuracy? Mate, this things camo rating is trash, if you get hit, it is your fault

[kindred thorn]

accurate? wdym

[hard cedar]

i mean tbf accuracy has nothing to do with camo rating
but it does have pretty bad accuracy

[wide edge]

i am playing with progetto and it always hits ne

[kindred thorn]

that 183mm gun doesnt have great accuracy

[violet timber]

Still your fault

[hard cedar]

just bounce the shell off of your troll ufp 😌

[wide edge]

its like kv2 accuracy

[kindred thorn]

terrible and misses most of the time?

[violet timber]

So bad?

[wide edge]

nevermind maybe it was just his rng xD

[kindred thorn]

183 has a fat hull with 0 armor and 0 camo

[violet timber]

0 armor, 0 camo, 0 accuracy, only average mobility

[kindred thorn]

yeah it literally only has pen and alpha going for it

[wide edge]

183 saw me for like half a second when i was 60km speed and he shooted me with he while driving progetto (bad accuracy)

[hard cedar]

ever heard of "luck"

[kindred thorn]

rng just said yes for him

[solid gate]

aight guys what do i need to tell my friend. i bought the viking today and have 25 battles in it now and we did a 1v1. he played tiger 2 btw and we did that 3 times or so and i won all the battles and now he is angry and is telling me that the tanks has broken armor,that the tank is op and needs a nerf (its a premium so it cant be nerfed)

[violet timber]

The Viking should not be losing a 1v1 vs a Tiger 2 lol. Tell your friend to git gud

[solid gate]

his name is tomato he is in this group

[graceful wedge]

the 140 is either awful or i am awful at playing it

[balmy wagon]

It isn't awful at all

[lyric copper]

either RNG or your own bad positioning

[solid gate]

Staying in scope mode might help determine if you're in a bad position or not, you can see enemy's gun, that means you're exposed. Also, p46 has literally no armor, so its not all that hard.

[valid cedar]

but even with the 105mm isnt the yoh quite different because of the stronger armour profile and thinner turret

[plucky summit]

It is rather team reliant, could just sit within the secluded area next to it

[fleet oriole]

Legendary camo for tier 1 when?

[lyric copper]

Ha Go has one

[fleet oriole]

It does? Got a photo?

[lyric copper]

ye one sec

[lyric copper]

also it’s one of the rarest camos in the game iirc

[fleet oriole]

Guess that explains why I didn’t know about it... thx for showing 🙂. How do u get it?

[sacred trail]

Is it still possible to get it for the Ha-Go now for gold, or was it a certificate thing?

[lyric copper]

GuP event, but apparently it’s not been sold for ages @sacred trail @fleet oriole

[fleet oriole]

Oof

[lyric copper]

It also helps that I have NO recollection of how I got the camo, according to a clan mate who desperately wants the camo, it was like £1

[sacred trail]

Dang, that sucks. If they do something like that for Blitz again, they should give the KV-2 or the Maus something like that since they both stuck out

[lyric copper]

I mean skin mods could solve that lol @sacred trail

[sacred trail]

Mobile?

[fleet oriole]

Yes.. but where’s the clout?

[lyric copper]

android yes, apple oof

[real nacelle]

BLTZ9000 is kinda balanced in that it has spaced armor in front but has very low DPM and lower pen than Hellcat

[plucky summit]

It also has an indented oscillating turret

Well, and a completely broken turret rotation according to models 😂

[gentle wasp]

The turret traverse is pretty crap actually

Second worst in class. This is such a weird tank.

[real nacelle]

Yea looks like it's going to be slow outgunned but armored medium. Most interesting to me is that they changed it's class from TD to medium.. while Hellcat might still be a better medium lol

[fluid zealot]

hey, i completely forgot the art channel had a 5 hour cooldown! how do yall like my drawing of the gargoyle? i couldnt find any good images of it 😔

[plucky summit]

Mmm digital art 🤤

[fluid zealot]

Hhh im pretty bad at it 🥲
When people do it right, it looks so cool hh

[plucky summit]

It’s better than my traditional drawings, effort isn’t exactly my forte 😂

Besides, I draw on the spot, Wite-Out is my only… editing tool

[fluid zealot]

hhh dam- sounds painful 😫

[plucky summit]

Not too much, I’m not too caring about the cursed tanks I draw, cuz people love cursed tanks 😅

Point made…

[fluid zealot]

Haha we got a funni man ova here
Funni man with da big necc
big neck charlie ova here

[plucky summit]

And that’s just one I was willing to draw them

[fluid zealot]

It is fantastic and my day has been made better by witnessing it

[plucky summit]

😂 Thanks I guess

[zealous anchor]

Why did they rework the original equipment system?

[thick wind]

Imgine if the 30 er could mount the top turret and 105 mm gun just like in pc as an option ,

That would be really cool

[onyx sluice]

Do rating battles affect our regular stats or just the rating stats?

[real wave]

so somebody told me that leoPTA stock is awful, so i would like to ask

[lyric oriole]

it is terrible

no armor

no gun

no mobility

[real wave]

what should i research first?

[zealous anchor]

I think many will say the gun, but for me I researched engine first to do some spotting and running and flanking @real wave

[rigid thunder]

getting the gun first before everything else will just absolutely destroy your gun accuracy

[solid gate]

is Chieftain worth it for somebody who is used to using the E5 and T57?

[hollow notch]

It's a tier 10 credit grinder. It's not really anything like either of those tanks.

[solid gate]

Why not add now smoke granades instead off on/off tank with gamo.

[lyric copper]

because device limitations

[latent ermine]

what do you think of emil 1?

[real nacelle]

Best tank desogn of 2021

[latent ermine]

nice

[solid gate]

Amazing work man

[molten imp]

rhm is not as bad as i thought - 2 shots for 600 dmg, 2 HE shots both for 1k dmg and ammoracked the obj 252U for 1.2k dmg. 4.4k dmg in total

[onyx sluice]

It's a great tank.

I would say the highlight of the Swedish tree.

[zealous anchor]

What about compared to E6, is it worth getting if you already have E6?

[onyx sluice]

How is the VK 30P?
Which gun to choose, 88mm or 75mm?

[lyric oriole]

Always the 8.8 on it

It's unique to the vehicle and significantly better

[low rampart]

I used to pick the stock turret for better mobility, making it a mix of medium and light tank. The problem is, the tank is huge with little armor, so it couldn't transition to a lighter profile without changes on the size. Now I just use the top turret with 8.8

[lyric copper]

only slightly worse mobility, do you use the quick view stats or something

[lyric oriole]

Why did you gold the tank and not the crew or gun

[manic carbon]

oh no...

[lyric copper]

horrible financial choices much

gl grinding the 35k exp left needed to get the 150mm with 75% crew and the 128mm

[low rampart]

With the stock turret it has 10 depression, 3.5 more traverse speed and 6 more turret traverse speed. The size is the only thing that keeps the VK3001P from having a medium and light mode.

[lyric copper]

wow 6° faster wow

[lyric oriole]

I actually tried it out and the differences are noticable but still very much unique, it does work because the 30.01 P can reach it's too speed easier and can fire over hills more

So there are legitimate and not so bad trade off for what you get

[hard cedar]

:V

[thick trout]

Stonks :/

[low rampart]

Then the question becomes, why not use the VK 30 1 D or the VK 28, since their specialty is having more mobility, and sloped armor.

[hard cedar]

Why would you buy it before getting the offer

It comes after you win a battle

[gentle wasp]

That’s what people are saying, without the 88 it’s pointless

[lyric oriole]

It can use the 8.8 with the stock turret

[gentle wasp]

But why

[lyric oriole]

Dunno why but I might try it, the turret is still about as strong minus the cupola but the gun can depress further

You said it was your first non purchased tier 10

[hard cedar]

^ so you probably wouldn't have had experience with camo popups

Yes except the ones without a legendary camo and the relatively new ones

[lyric oriole]

Hold on

Hold up a moment

Please

Do

Not

Buy

Premium

Ammo

With

Gold

Use credits

[tardy arrow]

🧐

[lyric oriole]

Hit this button

[kindred thorn]

😟

oh dear nooo

[hard cedar]

how much gold have you wasted on premium ammo

yikes

[calm inlet]

sheeeeeeesh

that does hurt to see

[kindred thorn]

ehh 183 sucks

[strange thicket]

your fault if you get shot by one

[kindred thorn]

it has bad dispersion and is on a big unarmored hull with meh mobility and terrible camo

[hard cedar]

Or you just don't peek if you know there's a 183 ezpz

Protip if you sidescrape to shoot 183 can't full pen with hesh so you take less damage

[solid gate]

the highest i believe

[kindred thorn]

at t10? yeah prob

[hard cedar]

Hey at least it has better dispersion than a kv2

[young swift]

Algum Brasileiro?kkkkk

[solid gate]

when people said viking was overpriced i assumed it was bad but i got it yesterday and its really good. and fun to play too

It's good but it's expensive considering the last time the progetto and ax (both better tanks) came into the store they were (iirc) 15k gold for both with all equip and the emil 1 is free and is essentially the same as the 1951

[barren sleet]

1 week to play t7 Yoh. This tank is a worse copy of t29. At least it should have the same gun depression of 10. Buff seroulsly needed.

[gentle wasp]

it's not like T29 is one of the best tanks at the tier or anything

[barren sleet]

that's what i excatly said. It's a worse t29. Gun depression buff could be a way to improve this scrap tank.

[gentle wasp]

oh no my new tank isn't OP pls buff

[barren sleet]

which of your tanks ?

[gentle wasp]

;-;

[solid gate]

T7 yoh is faster than the T29 and can sidescrape much better, also better hull and better reverse

[barren sleet]

Better hull ! You are joking. Look the stats of t29 and it's better.

[solid gate]

Look at the angle, T29 has a much flatter hull

[strange thicket]

The yoh has a better hull

[valid gale]

How is yoh worse than t29 it’s literally a 105 autoloader at tier 7

[lyric oriole]

The tier 7 doesn't Autoload

The tier 8 does

[valid gale]

These tanks are a giant mind ****

[rancid slate]

How to skorpion g stinger

[strange thicket]

grille at tier 8 with a fully rotational turret.

[hollow notch]

Pretend that it is a medium tank, and avoid getting shot at as you make aggressive plays

[rancid slate]

Tried that it didn't work. I've tried sniping but every time my teammates split up and do their own thing.

[strange thicket]

no don't snipe, play behind your team like stay close but just behind enough that you take a shot and then retreat into safety.
sniping might work but not always.

[hollow notch]

Sniping is rarely actually useful. Use the turret and mobility to hunt down targets.

If you can't figure it out, I highly recommend getting a bit more experience in the game. The skorp is definitely not an easy tank to play

[rancid slate]

I'm going to try and use it like my t1-heavy/hunter. Where I just chase down anything that shoots me
Would that work

[strange thicket]

No you would get eaten alive by HE

[rancid slate]

Man I mean I might as well sell it and use the gold for changing my name to something normal
I mean i suck at the game.
I play heavys more than anything

[strange thicket]

Oh please don't.
It is a great tank.
And it sells for credits.
Just learn the game more and the tank will be better for you.
Are you very new to the game?

[rancid slate]

I even have a su-100 that I use as a hunter too
No I'm not very new, my usual play style for World of Tanks is the Japanese heavy tanks and become a wall with lights and mediums behind and then we Swarm

I might wanna start on the Japanese heavys again I'm really good with them

[strange thicket]

Try using other classes
Heavies are easy to play and don't sharpen your skills as much.
Also there is no Japanese heavies in blitz

[rancid slate]

Excuse me, there's no what in blitz for the japanese

[strange thicket]

There is no japanese heavies in blitz
Only meds and TDs

[rancid slate]

But why

[plucky summit]

They're too large, and they'd honestly be unbalanced

[strange thicket]

Don't think them being too large is actually the reason.
I mean the maus was scaled down so yeah.

[plucky summit]

The guns are also a problem, O-I would be cracked if it kept stats, ofc you can change them, but the O-I would lose specialty other than being a meme

[strange thicket]

That i do agree with.
But the too big excuse was likely just to shut people or something.

[plucky summit]

I'd love for O-I to come to Blitz, even if it was like 15+ bucks as a premium, won't happen :/

[hard cedar]

Good turret armor no hull armor

[gentle wasp]

the spaced armor plates on the turret aren't cosmetic.

[solid gate]

You can check that sort of thing on Blitzhangar

[gentle wasp]

76mm spaced armor (what)

[solid gate]

Is that nominal?

[plucky summit]

At least they patched E75 TS's, which was like 127mm on one side and like 183mm on the other

[hard cedar]

💀 💀

[gentle wasp]

76mm base plate yes

[solid gate]

Lol

[solid gate]

oh yeah that bs, thicker than maus' spaced

[plucky summit]

E75 TS

[hard cedar]

https://blitzhangar.com/en/tank/e-75-ts

[violet timber]

Lupus is a blast to play

In which tank?

Yeah the Lupus has an insanely angled armor profile, with 12 degrees of godly gun depression

[hard cedar]

Gun depression makes it easier to work irregular terrain and lets you hulldown

[violet timber]

The ridiculous amount of gd lets you bully by basically showing only your gun and the tiniest bit of the top of your turret, which is an auto-ricochet

Just keep your angles to them, your sides are pretty troll and you have a good gun

[rain magnet]

Anyone knows what the names of these two are?

[kindred thorn]

first one looks like stock panther 1
other one is panther 8.8 cm i think?
they could be bret panther or the other t7 prem one

[plucky summit]

Could be a VK M

It is not

[fast compass]

I am guessing the second one is Bretagne panther

[rain magnet]

thanks, I'll check em out in blitz hangar

[fast compass]

First one can also be pudel

[kindred thorn]

idk why they made so many panthers ig

[plucky summit]

Those must be new or pre-nerf, cuz I can't find em

[wise moth]

Actually, the E-75TS's side plates aren't that thick in actuality, but the hitskin thinks they are

[plucky summit]

Also they're meganerfed now, but still annoying to deal with since it's so spaced

It's funny to think an E75 TS was literally more effective sideways than frontally, talk about "overangling" when sidescraping

[wise moth]

No, they were never that strong in reality to start with. The thing is, blitzhangar pulls its armor models from the client; and the client's armor models are what's used to display the red hitskins.

However, for some reason the client thinks the E-75TS's sideskirts are 150mm thick, but the server actually says that they're like 30mm thick or something iirc, which is how it will be treated if you shoot it

[plucky summit]

Welp, 15mm is fine, it's surprisingly weak

Besides, the drive wheel exists

[solid gate]

Super Conq or MK6???

[plucky summit]

Super Conqueror for safety, Chieftain Mk. 6 for skill ceiling

[plucky rain]

Why do some say playing Ho Ri needs skill and how should it be played?

[thorny smelt]

Does anyone here owned a Kpfpz or MBT-70?

[plucky summit]

Skill in positioning

[violet timber]

I have the Kpfpz

[thorny smelt]

Any review about the tank?

[solid gate]

KpfPz is nice, a bit sad on the gun depression imo. Speed is 7/10, Gun is great, armor is eh

[violet timber]

You have good mobility and a nice gun, but the reload is a bit long. The front of your turret is your only armor, and it's not reliable, so you have to play a peek-a-boom style with it. Shoot in a nice 560 alpha round and then use your mobility to reposition during the reload

[thorny smelt]

How long is the reload time?

[violet timber]

14.64 with rammer, 15.74 without. This is assuming you have both foods

[plucky summit]

Another thing is that you have highest alpha in class

[thorny smelt]

I can work with that kind of reload time. I'm used to KV-1S's 18.4 reload time with Gun Rammer installed.

[violet timber]

It's very workable, just don't show your hull and it's pretty nice

[thorny smelt]

I suffered so much with M-VII-Yoh than my T-29 LOL.

Anyways, thanks for your input

[violet timber]

Always happy to help

[thorny smelt]

I think VK 45.02 B is still a good choice

[violet timber]

It’s a very nice tank

[thorny smelt]

Any opinions?

Is it better than VK 100.01 P?

I'll blame Porsche for the slow tanks

[plucky summit]

Blame armor.

VK 100.01 P is more impactful than VK 45.02 A, and VK B is kinda just a sidescraper

[violet timber]

Can't compare the two because one is a tier higher. The 4502B is a very nice tank with bad mobility, but very good armor and a decent gun

[thorny smelt]

I know Maus line is good on paper except for the slow speed

[valid gale]

Be warned kpz is laughably mediocre once you get used to it I’ve had it for 2 years and sold it since 2020 to super late 19 your alpha barely rolls for 600 most of the time in the 500 area and you have below average pen meaning you can’t pen even an e100s turret cheeks without struggling and a e75 lower plate with standard the HE also doesn’t work properly so you’ll be disappointed trying to hit TDs and lights with it the speed of kpz is the only redeeming factor as it has almost no gun depression even though it’s designed for it which makes it suffer more and the turret is butter to tier 10s

[violet timber]

The 45.02 B is the VK72.01K line

[thorny smelt]

Yeah. I'm not really that biased when it comes to same tier tanks and I compare them like I have both JgPz IV and Nashorn for some comparison but I suffered more on Nashorn than I did with JgPz IV.

[violet timber]

That makes sense as JgPz IV is just a better tank in general

[thorny smelt]

I used to have both KV-2 and KV-1S but I sold my KV-2 because I suffered the most than with my KV-1S. Besides, I can go both ways to IS and KV-3 without playing KV-2. Like I did also with Panther where I skip the Tiger I and get Tiger II instead. I like Tiger P but it is crawling than running.

[plucky summit]

Must've broken your period and comma keys 😅
Really threw me off

[violet timber]

I just keep the KV-2 because of the gun. It's really a tank I play when I'm feeling sad

[plucky summit]

Mine's the Lowe, ol' reliable

[violet timber]

Lowe is still my favorite tank in the game, and my most played

[plucky summit]

Same

[thorny smelt]

I feel a bit of buyer's remorse because I bought the KV-5 last week with 5,500 gold coins which I thought this is a sweet deal until Chrysler K showed up and I'm like WTH. I still give some love to KV-5 like I did to Pz. T-25.

I also don't want to spend $9 for 6500 gold coins

[plucky summit]

I bought KV-5 cuz why not

[frigid compass]

KV-5 just looks like a sad crappier KV-4

[thorny smelt]

I can still get to shoot VK 100.01 P at the turret and the lower half of the hull so it is still good. Just get good with the side-scraping

[plucky summit]

I bought it for the meme

[thorny smelt]

I'm still aiming for KV-4. I need to work out my KV-1S

[violet timber]

Just remember, the S stands for Sport

[thorny smelt]

I thought S stands for "Skorostnoy" means "high speed" or "fast" in because it is a lighter version of KV-1.

[violet timber]

Yeah, I just say it stands for sport because it's easier to explain

[thorny smelt]

Also P means tanks are designed by Porsche, and H for Henschel

[violet timber]

Yup, K for Krupp

[solemn sun]

where's Rheinmetall

[violet timber]

Rheinmetall is a gun maker, not many tanks aside from the Skorpion and borsig

[solemn sun]

True

[thorny smelt]

VK is Volkettenfahrzeuge which means "fully-tracked experimental vehicle"

[solemn sun]

And what does Sd.Kfz. mean again?

[outer lantern]

I lived with Nashorn for a long time. And did not bad with it

[violet timber]

It's not bad, the JgPz IV is just better

[outer lantern]

Yah.

Ok. How bad is a maxed out Ferdinand.

[violet timber]

Don't bother, just get JagPanther 2

[thorny smelt]

Sonderkraftfahrzeug

[outer lantern]

To late. I already unlocked Ferdinand

[solemn sun]

Bruh

[violet timber]

Sell it, buy back the JagPanther, and get the JagPanther 2

[thorny smelt]

Special purpose vehicle

[solemn sun]

Yes ik, wasn't referring to your message lmao

[outer lantern]

I have no premium. So it’s almost impossible to get credits and I haven’t yet bought it and I already sold Jpanther

[solemn sun]

You don't have the IS2(1945)?

[thorny smelt]

Oh yisss. I love Jagdpanther