vehicles-discussion

[cinder knot]

From where?

[candid harbor]

bri'ish tech tree

[strange fjord]

British Vickers Light is the best tank for scouting. It has the highest view range, good mobility and flexibility. It's designed to be a scout too

[candid harbor]

its gun handling is just questionable

[solid gate]

how camo i am want pick? 1 green 2 blue

[candid harbor]

green looks poog

[solid gate]

@candid harbor soooo green?

[candid harbor]

yee

[solid gate]

ok

ok its looks niceeee

and my first battle on this tank

@candid harbor

[candid harbor]

ayyy

@solid gate this is mine

[median atlas]

Guys, idk wat to choose ax or progetto. I have good med skills but im an average player, which one should i choose ?

[solid gate]

proggero cuz amx is heavy with no armor and poggeto is speed

[inland osprey]

Depends on you, but personally I prefer the Progetto for speedy and flexible clip dumping

[solid gate]

@inland osprey yep

[candid harbor]

go progetto
if you got any issue with pen
just dab 2 key

[solid gate]

Does object 263 and BC 25T have legendary camo?

[weak swift]

I think bc 25t has one

[surreal blade]

BC has batchat musketeer

268 has one. 263 doesn't

[trail epoch]

I have question about The Model Of The Sheridan In Wotb

[past crane]

uh, do you want it to be the model of the production version and not the prototype?

[thorny smelt]

Is there by any chance WG will sell or release Vindicator UM again?

[brave night]

They will

[thorny smelt]

I like that it has 13 sec reload time and at the same time deadly damage and a confusing look for a tank

[brave night]

It’s kinda trash but ok

[lyric oriole]

The HEAT is honestly good at times, 171 pen (cause you should be using calibrated shells) for standard ammo even though it's heat is honestly really nice for the calibre

The biggest issue the lack of armor and gun depression

[surreal blade]

Dumpster is better

LOLOL

I thought it was a plow coming at me with a big round hole in between when I saw it first time

[lyric oriole]

Is-4 is the best tier 10 heavy, Obj 268 has the easiest grind, German Meds down the E 50 M line are pretty forgiving and so is the Vickers Light line

[solid gate]

Stock ISU is hell, E100 branch has the best grind. The worst stock tank of its line is tiger 2 but just grind like 30k free xp and its ok from now on

[low rampart]

How do you play the ISU? I've used freexp to unlock the top gun, but once I'm spotted everyone shoots at me instantly.

[lyric oriole]

Long range in the beginning of the match, you don't want to play close at all initially, take chunks out of people and during the second half of the game it's time to play second line and Frontline

[kindred thorn]

at the back, same with 704
you cant really push with the tank so provide support with your teammates if they are pushing

[low rampart]

I have a problem with passive gameplay, if the monkes on my team don't do their job I rush to try and save us from losing. That'll be an exercise in patience...

[kindred thorn]

yeah you just have to be patient and wait for like the enemy team to push and then you can just slap them

[noble pilot]

what is up with the Track Feature for the MI VI YoooH line?
it has a symbol on it like the rocket symbol on a Sheridan Missle's gun

[kindred thorn]

means you can move backwards even if tracks are 'destroyed'

[noble pilot]

y backwards tho

and how

[kindred thorn]

It was like a very different track system then the usual ones
idk much about it but there might be like some videos on yt about how they work

[coral shuttle]

I think when a Yoh tank gets tracked. It can reverse but it can't turn with broken tracks. So It would only be able to move backwards and not be able to turn to get behind cover. This would balance it being able to move while tracked

[lyric copper]

Track inside a track

[noble pilot]

woah

[solid gate]

1

[neat nimbus]

Thats Trackception

[calm drum]

dbob#4591 was banned

[charred vigil]

wouldnt that mean tracking it again would fully track it

[static token]

Prog 46 or AX?

i can only get one

[solid gate]

@static token prog

[acoustic ginkgo]

its depend on you:
prog if you are a skilled med player
ax for new player or average player

[golden slate]

honestly the pew pew gun playstyle of the ax doesn't suit me, i would choose poggggg in a heartbeat

[frigid quest]

niether, both are boring imo

[plucky summit]

What tier 8 isn't to you?

[frigid quest]

lorraine

[brave night]

Idk I can see action be boring but prog

[plucky summit]

Prog 46 is basically Lorraine with extra armor and adaptability

[frigid quest]

i just cannot convince myself to play a prog over any other medium (90mm single shot mediums do not count, they are just garbage), prog is actually boring even if its a good tank

[gentle wasp]

but no other medium has that devastating clip + autoreloader + mobility
(and no Pantera doesn't count, the clip isn't as good damage-wise)

[plucky summit]

You like the thrill of one extra shell while being under threat of a long reload time with nearly no armor?

Hey keep the 3 to 4 shell in a clip difference in check

[brave night]

It’s an auto reloader so it has the clip of Lorraine with more flexibility while retaining speed and other things

[gentle wasp]

mainly not being the size of a barn with tissue paper for armor

[frigid quest]

unleashing clip and running over unleashing clip and be a crippled 90mm single shot medium until when you can reload clip any day

[brave night]

It becomes de brie after 2 shots

[plucky summit]

You understand that autoreloaders are a lot like autoloaders but they can fire when they reload, right?

[frigid quest]

if any tank with an autoreloader runs, its a waste, reload is either long or clip potential is eh

[gentle wasp]

autoloader but better

[brave night]

Except the reload is 7 seconds

[plucky summit]

This guy will love AT 7

[frigid quest]

thats the first shell, no point being a handicapped pershing

[gentle wasp]

better single shot alpha, quicker clip dump, and it's not useless for 20s. that's far from a waste.

[brave night]

Pershing is far slower and doesn’t have a clip what

[plucky summit]

Progetto 46 has more DPM than Lorraine

Honestly the only thing Lorraine has it better for is the standard penetration

[frigid quest]

if you reload the second shell, you kill your dpm

[brave night]

It does have more mobility

[plucky summit]

Not that much better tho

[gentle wasp]

clippers aren't about DPM, they are about the potential to unload massive damage
Prog isn't deadweight for 20s so it is so much more flexible in that way

[brave night]

You reload your clip as you relocate to fight the enemy

Except if someone engages you early you can already fight back

[plucky summit]

Prog 46 can load itself fully in 16 seconds, while Lorraine takes 20...

[frigid quest]

i would pick a lorraine over prog any day, lorraines gun is nice, and the mobility allows the lorraine to overcome the trash armor and 20s clip reload

progs gun as a autoloader is generic, and progs gun as a single shot is trash.

[gentle wasp]

but it's neither. I don't think you understand what an autoreloader actually is.

[plucky summit]

Imagine using single-shot with an ARl

[frigid quest]

prog is good dont get me wrong, but its kind of overrated, its not op for sure

[plucky summit]

Nobody claimed it to be OP, but it's definitely a better pick than Lorraine

[brave night]

And is fun

[plucky summit]

Why do I talk, knowing I prefer T-2020 😪

[brave night]

I just play is3 most of the time at tier 8

[frigid quest]

and the prog again is boring, playing the lorraine is easier than people make it out to be, 900 damage is more rewarding than 600-700, prog is for these people that wants a clipper but they are bad at clippers

[plucky summit]

960 funny HE moment > 900 takes a while to dump

[brave night]

Prog has 240 alpha and 720 clip :/

[frigid quest]

thats why you dont be stupid

[brave night]

Also I don’t think you know how a autoreloader is meant to be used

[plucky summit]

You don't negate inter-clip by being smart

[brave night]

Doesn’t it take 7.5 sec for 900 vs prog 720 in 5 while trying not to take 960

[plucky summit]

Yup

[frigid quest]

people going to trash the lorraine because they think, huh, long intraclip, guess i will overexpose and remove my situational awareness by keeping sniper mode on and trying to hold the position like they are some heavy

[plucky summit]

Not saying Lorraine is trash, just saying Prog 46 is more suited :p

And not boring to play

[static token]

i like autoreloaders so prog it is

[tardy arrow]

Prog is better than Lorraine by miles

[wise moth]

The HP and mobility are still pretty big advantages. And autoreloader or not, the 4th shell is still a pretty big advantage

[plucky summit]

I just feel the versatility of the autoreloader coupled with the small damage advantage (per shell) makes it better

[thorny smelt]

So there's a gonna be a change in American heavy line with the YOH tanks?

[plucky summit]

They're switching the guns for the tier X

[thorny smelt]

The guns of existing tanks in the heavy lines will be changed?

[plucky summit]

The M-VI-Yoh will have its guns swapped, the hyper-burst will be the gun farthest to the right if I know how they make it correctly

[thorny smelt]

That will make sense. It is kind of a habit they have that a better, or perhaps the best, gun will be the furthest in the upgrade path. It is nice to have another heavy tank with T29's counterpart M-III-Yoh like they did in the German tech tree with Tiger I and Tiger P

[plucky summit]

Both will be great hulldown heavies

[thorny smelt]

Man! Gonna try that once it is out.

[plucky summit]

I'm goin straight for the M-VI-Yoh >:)

[stiff basin]

me too

[plucky summit]

Also the tier 9 looks a bit overarmored on the turret, is nobody in there? xD

[thorny smelt]

I'm still farming some XPs to get that T-29 but I guess I'll wait for the 8.0 update

[stiff basin]

T29 is nice

[thorny smelt]

There might be one loader since only one person can fit in the narrow turret

[plucky summit]

I got 978k FXP waiting for 8.0 :p

[thorny smelt]

FXP?

[plucky summit]

Free XP

Also it's overkill since M-VI-Yoh will take only 645k

[stiff basin]

Will the YOH line get special consumables?

[thorny smelt]

Oh yeah. I have like almost 300K of free XP

[plucky summit]

No, fortunately

[stiff basin]

I think that M VII Yoh shares stuff with t29

[plucky summit]

It probably will, but M6 is the furthest I've touched on the American tech tree

[stiff basin]

so you can get the T29 and start E5 grind and then you won't need to spend as much XP

[plucky summit]

Ye, VII Yoh shares T29's top gun

M-III Yoh is basically a DPM Emil I, with a bit less damage per shot 😳

[stiff basin]

But after M-III-YOH the fun starts....

[plucky summit]

fun gun

[stiff basin]

and tracks allowing you to move backwards with a broken track

and good 1.7 intraclip for 900 damage

[plucky summit]

The fact that tier 9 shares tier 10's gun is w a c k

Now we basically have a proto-183 in tier 9

[stiff basin]

at least it doesn't have HESH...

[plucky summit]

Thank goodness it doesn't, as well as bad HE damage increase, so it can only boop 1030 on average
IS-7 - 460 AP - 600 HE
M-V - 450 AP - 515 HE

[stiff basin]

And also all of them have new models

[plucky summit]

Dynamic suspension 🥵

[stiff basin]

Yeah, but dynamic suspension will probably be on all tanks, while PBR models are only for YOHs and Kunze panzer

[plucky summit]

F

[stiff basin]

They'll be adding new PBR models in next updates

[static harness]

I can already hear my tablet crying

[median tree]

i can see my phone dying

[feral vessel]

Still looking for that autoreoader ATGM

[onyx sluice]

Waffentrager E100 with ATGM.

[feral vessel]

lol

[elfin granite]

no

[hasty parcel]

Suggestion: tank camouflage Fox

[low rampart]

Is the BDR getting less armor? I've checked blitzstars, if that's so that's good news.

[neat nimbus]

i need that on my action x

[plucky summit]

Yes

[hasty parcel]

this is so bedautful

[wind burrow]

Am i alone thanking that or t2020 after the buff is very strong !

[low rampart]

It's a decent IS clone, armored turret with angled hull, spaced armor, only it has less mobility as a downside.

[plucky summit]

The slightly less mobility doesn't matter that much for a tier 8 heavy

I liked it before the buff tho :p

[short raptor]

What do you guys think about the 260?

[frigid compass]

isnt that one of the XM-1 prototypes

[hasty parcel]

yeah is it

[frigid compass]

also yeah that camo looks pretty nice

[hasty parcel]

it could be good if wotb add this camo like a premium

[solid gate]

is Like an Is-7 no more strong

[short raptor]

That’s about what I was thinking, just kind of a weaker is7

[plucky summit]

It's a tier 10 IS-8

[dire eagle]

I have question

How do you angle your tank so that you can get the bounces, but not too much you expose your bottom plate?

Like I looked in armor inspector with a t29 since I’m going for the e5 and that’s what I’m on, I can’t really angle because if I wanted to angle being able to ricochet those shells, I have to back up a lot so I can shoot them, but if I back up too much, I will expose my bottom plate

[dire eagle]

Also being able to back up and shoot

That was a bad explanation but I’m sure u understand

[plucky summit]

@dire eagle

It's still risky if they get a good shot on you, but it's a sidescrape, probably the best one it can pull there

[dire eagle]

Thanks bro

[plucky rain]

Reverse sidescrape lol

[stone minnow]

The new American heavy line will be starting from the M6 right?

[fallen cape]

yeah

[stone minnow]

Thanks

[rugged cedar]

Any tips on the centurion 1 ? (the tier 8 one) i just bought it and looking good way to play it

[candid harbor]

don't learn side scraping, it is generally very bad for your tank unless you got a super heavy

if you can't overangle in your tank, side scraping is a very bad idea, unless you are trying to clutch a bounce in an unexpected situation

in case of tanks like m103 and t110e5
it is even more detrimental, as they got extremely weak drive wheels, which also break after getting hit once, from pretty much any angle

try hunting spots to go hulldown

[solid gate]

Just worried that this game play style goes more to first person shooting while the tank gun loading times goes shorter and shorter. Like I am a little older person playing this game and lots of wallet to buy different tanks but slowly loosing interest to play while whole thing goes for quicker and quicker zip zap war. Eventough autoloader are nice but still tank shouldnt be firing like machine gun. Eventough it more atractive while there is lots of action on screen and dont need to wait anything. Personally leading clan where we have at least 20 players over 30 years old and 3 over 50.

Have you not been paying attention or something because current meta is nothing but slow firing high alpha guns and heavies? And what does fps have to do with anything lol

And good to keep it that way. Were yesterday on tournament enemy used only 7 progettos it was like 7 babboons screaming and jumbing round map.

Except it’s not good because the game has been like this for years and now every match is dominated by a single type of tank which becomes extremely boring

That is the other side.

That’s a tournament tactics and teams develop around certain tanks pub matches are what’s the main concern

[solid gate]

Whole mind set now is dont need to mind about map lets take all progettos and fly around map like punch of insects and kill em all without thinking anything .

I mean usually a team consisting of only 1 tank usually never works and prog is hated for its inaccuracy somethings are so stupid it works

Yeah but in comparison to movability and loading with IS - series long loading and aim times it is just a beast.

[solid gate]

There is 2 IS tanks at the tier unless your talking about tier 8 which in this case there are many and a whole team of them would have very little issue

[smoky arch]

Will there be Bourrasque in Blitz

[candid lark]

I just got the jpantherII and got it on 76 crew through struggling in matchmaking

How can i play it cuz i ask one very old player and i am kinda not sure if the tactic flank and hide hull is a good idea or not

And also some extra advice on how to play it

[gentle wasp]

it works well on med side, the gun can easily rip through tanks there and you have enough mobility to get to positions. the most important part is picking your spots though, you either want to take a second line/support position where you are still directly helping your meds but not taking too many shots in return, or an aggressive hulldown spot where your armor works best.

[candid lark]

Ok thanks

[candid lark]

Wait is jpantherII good on heavy flank?

[gentle wasp]

not really, it doesn't have the best gun or camo if you are just going to camp, and the gun angles (both vertical and horizontal) will limit you if you are sitting in a spot that offers wide angles of shots. the armor also doesn't hold up as well, most heavies can punch right through your mantlet.

[manic carbon]

You really want to utilise its mobility

I usually do not take a JPII hard heavy flank

[candid lark]

Ok

[hasty parcel]

so beautful

[dire eagle]

So this line isn’t for sidescraping right?

Pls tell me any tips about the e5 and line in general I want to learn more

[violet timber]

Hull down. A lot. It has incredible turret armor as well as the mobility to push when the time comes. Gotta be patient, wiggle, and make sure you’re not being flanked

[dire eagle]

What if ur in a situation where u can’t hull down?

[hollow notch]

Sidescraping to bait a shot is 100% worth it. If my sides aren't overmatchable, imma be sidescraping

I'm reloading anyway, might as well stick an autobounce side and track out. If they shoot at me, then I can safely peek and preaim my shell for when they try to peek again.

[hollow notch]

Don't you just love baiting this shot?

Heh

[solid gate]

Vote one vote Tiger 131

[thick trout]

Damnnnn someone likes to live life on the edge

[hollow notch]

If it works...
People go oh, leo, and shoot without thinking

[strange thicket]

does the hit skin not show it?
i was in that angle before and bounced a couple of shots
not sure why the enemy kept going for it

[hollow notch]

Leo is paper so it must be autopen (lol)

[thick trout]

Hitskins are pretty fickle really and ngl I'd probably be tricked by that 😂

[lilac umbra]

Is the mystery boxes worth it

[gentle wasp]

no

[violet timber]

E75 TS hitskin always makes me annoyed

[hollow notch]

I completely unloaded a prog65's clip by doing it

[strange thicket]

bruh

[thick trout]

I'll have to try that next time then hmmm

Attempts it against a 183

[lilac umbra]

oki

[tardy arrow]

It actually works

[hollow notch]

The lower plate is 50mm, so if you run enhanced armor you can really mess with the poor sub155mm guns

[grave haven]

probably asked a lot butt is the action X worth for 10k gold?or should i look at other t8?

[gentle wasp]

Prog

[strange thicket]

get t26e5 instead
way cheaper
currently not available but if you want something similar to action X just wait for this one

[neat nimbus]

Did anyone thinks may WG plans to add German light line

After the ru 251

[gentle wasp]

251

[valid cedar]

which one should i get on the maus: improved assembly or enhanced armour?

[plucky summit]

Improved assembly, they'll HEAT you anyways

[eager lantern]

love the kv2 bc derp is my fave tank fight me

[valid cedar]

rip, if everyone spams prammo then maus is kinda redundnat then
also isnt the turret of the e100 harder to pen than maus, my friend and i just 1v1 in my maus and his e100 and he could pen my turret but i couldnt pen his so he won easily

[violet timber]

E100 turret is doodoo compared to a well angled Maus turret, as a fully angled Maus turret and hull is only weak to 340 heat in the lower plate

[valid cedar]

what angles should i angle my turret and hull on the maus again?
i felt so inferior when 1v1ing my friend's e100

[violet timber]

Hull should be about 30 and turret should be about 45 if I remember correctly

[valid cedar]

hmm alright. so do you have any reccomendations for a full maus equipment loadout by any chance?

[violet timber]

Personally, I use rammer, gun laying drive, vert stabs, improved modules, enhanced armor, tool kit, view range, engine accelerator, and delivery system, but you just kinda have to play around with them and see what you like best

[plucky summit]

@valid cedar the point is that if you make mistakes, you have more HP to forgive them

[valid cedar]

alright ty
@plucky summit but still i dont like how my armour becomes more redundant due to prammo nowadays

[violet timber]

It’s not necessarily redundant, it just requires skill to use properly

[manic carbon]

@valid cedar the main thing you’ll notice is that you get a way better turret. With the Mauschen, you can’t angle the turret much without exposing weakspots on the turret sides and such.
The maus has a better turret which allows you to angle the turret far more than you could do with a Mauschen

[light blaze]

just got the Emil 2. i'm assuming it's the same playstyle as the previous tank?

[violet timber]

It’s a little different once you get the top gun, but with the stock gun yes, only you can’t rely on your hull and your turret is a bit weaker tier for tier

[light blaze]

so peek n boom then?

[violet timber]

Once you have all 3 shells you can burst them, but then make sure you have something to hull down or hide behind

[light blaze]

Thanks

[plucky summit]

I mean, if they're using prammo, they're drilling your turret anyways, so might as well have the HP

[thick trout]

Another thing with the Emil 2 to look out for is your shell reload.

Basically every time you shoot you need to pause for half a second and look at how long you have left until the next shell is loaded and make a quick decision about whether it's worth waiting for the next shot to reload

[hollow notch]

Mah m8, when you wiggle the maus properly, you make the front and sides flash red and grey. Enhanced armor enhances this effect. Enhanced armor all the way

[plucky summit]

I see wayyy too many people try to shoot their loaded shell as soon as possible, but they fire the shell before it actually completely reloaded, so they lose an entire, vital shell

Mostly Emil IIs

[plucky summit]

I figured since they seem to struggle a bit with angling, then the HP would help them for now

[hollow notch]

Throw them into the fire where they either learn or die

[plucky summit]

SO tier 1-9?

[valid cedar]

I guess so.
Ty for your help

[hollow notch]

1-4 nothing learned
5 actually, this is probably the best training tier, but is a bit lacking in variety
6 nah, anni and smasher exist
7 ^
8 wallet warrior noob
9 go to tier 1 noob
10. Wait, we haven't learned anything yet

Best tiers to learn in:
5, 8, 9, and 10

But you really should've be learning in high tiers.

But you can't learn in low tiers.

Quality setup by weegee

[kindred wren]

You can learn higher tier gameplay only in higher tier

[tardy arrow]

who wouldve known that no one can play t10 without ever playing t10 and be good

[static harness]

You can play t10 with only one hand and still be top of the team
You will learn nothing, but your wn8 will like it

[tardy arrow]

u cant play with one hand lmao

[frigid quest]

Get on my level, I use my nose to play lmao

[solid gate]

Nub, I mind control a super unicum to play for me

[brave night]

maus has low pen which is prob why

[light blaze]

yea i usually wait till i have all three loaded.

[thick trout]

In general it's better to wait and have more shells but sometimes it isn't and that split second of thinking can change your performance a hell of a lot

[static harness]

There are maus players who fire AP?
Didn't know that

[plucky summit]

I do :p

[static harness]

A rare breed indeed

[plucky summit]

Indeed, I do like T-2020 pre-buff

[valid cedar]

im sad, my maus is getting penned so easily on the turret despite me angling it, i assume some is prammo which is just annoying
im not sure, my dmg is pretty low on the maus atm and im not sure what im doing wrong

[wise moth]

You're probably underangling your turret then. Lots of inexperienced Maus players underestimate how far the turret needs to be angled. Aim for a ~40 degree angle on flat ground. If the enemy is above you, angle a little less, and if they're below you, or in a facehug, angle even harder

[brave night]

its still hard to pen e100 turret running rammer on maus with apcr unless it looks str8 at u

[static harness]

Well, turret ring
Even if he is slightly angled anything above 290 should pen
(Don't know the actual number so)

[plucky summit]

250mm I believe

[hollow notch]

I'm over here shooting ap and running a rammer

[echo knot]

D-10T2C or D-54?

[plucky summit]

I like the APCR standard gun, the one to T-62A

I’m assuming that’s for T-54 anyways

[echo knot]

That's true, for my T-54.

Okay, Mate. Thanks.

[lyric oriole]

D-54

You'll need that extra pen, the DPM trade off is marginal

Especially needing HEAT more often cuts your DPM further

[vale heath]

If you sell a collectible, how long until it's available on the VRT list?

[plucky summit]

Instantly I suppose

[vale heath]

I sold a tank and I don't see it on the list

[plucky summit]

Weird, refresh and whatnot I guess

[median tree]

Takes some time, return to it later

[vale heath]

Cool. thanks

[low rampart]

Any tips for the lttb? It seems bigger than other light tanks, has more reload and less depression.

[plucky summit]

Run around, movement is life, spot first, then be where they aren’t, flank, shoot, die

[frigid quest]

D10T2C, mayo is not a unicum, the extra pen is a lie, you will absolutely need to snipe weakspots, D54 has E100 dispersion and still has bad pen and laughable DPM while the D10 has decent dpm. Why in the world would you equipe the d54 other than turret rotation dispersion that is basically irrelevant, pen that is still garbage, and shell velocity? Supercharge exists if the d10 is too slow

advantages for the gun leading to the T-62 is negligable at best, and wargaming needs to remove the gun from the game so that it wouldnt be such a waste of exp for people that want the T-62 fast. Period.

[plucky summit]

@frigid quest the penetration advantage is very substantial, don't disregard it

[frigid quest]

18mm more pen sure is significant, but realistically, it wouldnt come into play. The T-54 is going have to flank around and improvise anyways in tier ten matches, so you have penetration that is so situational, .35 dispersion that does not allow you to aim at weakspots so the d54 actually does worse on heavily armored targets, and your dpm is worse than even same tier mediums save the clippers or 7/1

D10 will actually allow you to maximize good plays. D54, not really

[plucky summit]

If 18mm of pen is so forgettable, surely 131 DPM is too

[frigid quest]

but the effective dpm is not, read what i just said if you said "18mm more pen"

[plucky summit]

😒

[frigid quest]

also a marginal dpm differance would be in the double or single digits at this tier, not triple

[plucky summit]

Whatever, I need sleep, I have no idea why they'd ask which gun unless they plan to just stick to T-54 and get neither of the tier 10s

Besides, "negligible at best" is a very strict statement, I played on that

[frigid quest]

thing is: both soviet mediums are worth it, though too many people believe youtubers these days and get T-62 only, and sell T-54

D54 can definately still work but there is no real reason to run it over the D10

[plucky summit]

Other than getting 62A

[frigid quest]

i guess if they are getting the T-62 first but are impatient, I love the 140 more but it is a unicum tank

[plucky summit]

My T-2020 😩

[tardy arrow]

It’s preference, both guns are good. Hrf has a video on the t54 and he prefers the pen gun.

[frigid quest]

again, pen gun will still work perfectly fine regardless, but dpm gun is objectively better. Oh well, you do you, and people will stick to something that works

[magic radish]

wOOo!! Got smasher from the lucky 7 crate

[minor mica]

Say for the e100 I go with the hp instead of armor right?

[plucky summit]

Meh, HP

[tardy arrow]

Use armor for e100

[minor mica]

I’ll try both for like 10 games each

[tardy arrow]

It’s straight up better to run armor

[plucky summit]

k <3

[minor mica]

I mean the enemy will definitely not spam gold

[valid cedar]

Do you have any good videos you'd recommend in particular? I'd really appreciate some

@wise moth why do i angle less if they are above me and more if im in a facehug or they are below me?

[valid cedar]

Idk, people told me to run hp on the maus cuz of ppl spamming gold, and the maus has a thicker turret and lower plate than the e100 (i think)

[tardy arrow]

Those people are wrong then, in randoms it’s especially useful to run armor

[plucky summit]

Armor for pubs, HP for gold spam tournaments

[zinc briar]

so uh, which premiums are worth

[gentle wasp]

Any parameters or are we just listing any of the hundreds of candidates

[plucky summit]

Lowe :3

by emphasis of worth

[kindred wren]

Let’s list all

[gentle wasp]

You play wot blitz? Name every worth premium.

[kindred wren]

You really want me to do that? You know they’ll ban me for spam

[gentle wasp]

Will they though

[kindred wren]

👀 Only one way to find out

[gentle wasp]

👀

[kindred wren]

You do it, I hide in the trashcan

Oh look what I found in my hiding spot, the T-44-100 and the AMX CDC!

[gentle wasp]

Hey that’s uncalled for. Poor CDC.

[kindred wren]

XD

[zinc briar]

i mean theres only like so many available right now

[plucky summit]

CDC is leKpz with effective gun and thiccnesssss

not of armor

[kindred wren]

It’s so big so that the only players who are good at it, big brain players, can fit their brain in it

[plucky summit]

Me get CDC for free, me let CDC collect dust in garage

[gentle wasp]

I mean you also didn’t specify that. Now that you have, PROG

[kindred wren]

So you want to know which of the currently available premiums are worth the purchase?

[plucky summit]

Lowe is always there for you 😊

[gentle wasp]

:/

[kindred wren]

Löwe is love. Never gonna let you down, never gonna give you up,...

[plucky summit]

Yup, Ima go sleep now

[kindred wren]

Good night

[tardy arrow]

E75ts > Lowe

[kindred wren]

Objectively solid opinions are currently not appreciated, thank you

[zinc briar]

idk dude, im from pc maybe the prog is horrible on blitz

[gentle wasp]

Prog is great on blitz

[tardy arrow]

Pat pat

[kindred wren]

The Prog is not like it's on PC (a lot more balanced), but it's still a good tank to choose

[zinc briar]

balanced uh oh

[kindred wren]

In the shop itself I would only recommend the Prog, the AX and the KV-220. Techtree premiums are mostly decent and you can always grab some very playstyle specific tanks

It is more balanced, not balanced

If you want to see the stats, I can recommend BlitzHangar and BlitzStars tank compare

[zinc briar]

dude anything is more balanced than the bs prog we got

[kindred wren]

I certainly don't envy PC for their tank balance

But yeah, if you have the money you can technically buy any tank in Blitz and get decent stats with it if you are a good player. If I were you I'd just check the stats and pick something that suits my playstyle, but if you want the commonly known as strong tanks then you should look no further than the Progetto

Or the Annihilator and Smasher at tier seven, but those can be rarely obtained

[zinc briar]

got the prog

[stiff basin]

What do you think about Sheridan? Many people are saying it's worse than other tanks, so i just wanna know if i'm the only one that likes the tank

[solid gate]

Wich one has the best armor?

Sorry for the low quality picture

[acoustic ginkgo]

none

[acoustic ginkgo]

nothing is good

[median tree]

No

[solid gate]

I'm not saying I want to buy one.
I'd like to know wich one has the best armor

[median tree]

T14 has the best armor iirc, but the pz 5 4 is close by

[solid gate]

Thanks

[acoustic ginkgo]

tier 6 gonna pen it easily

[median tree]

Obviously

[candid lark]

Is ISU 152 useful in ratings?

[sleek badge]

bang Buff armor nya T34 Heavy bang masa kepala depan T34 Heavy bisa doi tembus

[little plinth]

what

[solid gate]

Hello I am Brazilian I am looking for a t62a and my favorite top I already bought it but I sold it because I was suffering a lot I understand its mechanics well but I would like a support sera q I could someone help me I found on a forum about such a frostbite I wanted to talk to him but I couldn't

[stiff basin]

The things you want to do @solid gate:

• go hulldown
• don't trade
• rush heavies and TDs that are alone and circle them
• you're pretty fast, so you can flank well, you may spot, but you usually won't

Just use your DPM

[solid gate]

I love this tank

[stiff basin]

because it's just great. And you don't need to use speed boost because you're always on your top speed

[solid gate]

Okay sr

[obtuse meadow]

Idk if its just me but WG needs to make it to where us players who have been playing for a while can get the T6E1 Grizzley

[balmy wagon]

Bourrasque on testing....

[clear bobcat]

why tho its not even good and anyways its meant for players who just started playing

[manic carbon]

Players who have been playing a while have been given, been able to get things newer players wouldn’t have been able to

Just let new players have one thing for them

[obtuse meadow]

I'm just a collector and would like it

What tier 10 are you looking to get?

OK so the is-7 I would recommend to do first

Well I can't help you there

[lyric copper]

140 isn’t as easy to play as the 62A, but it’s simple

Hulldown, move a lot (abuse that sweet movement dispersion) never trade, like ever

The 140’s advantage is that it’s sides are much more troll, think of it like the poor man’s T-22 (until the 907 gets put into crates the store)

It can actually hold positions against other mediums relatively well

Both are good, but the 140’s sides can help often

if people are rushing you, you’ve perhaps overextended

[deep ivy]

How...

[lyric copper]

@deep ivy nice

[deep ivy]

@lyric copper this was absolutely, positively, amazing luck

[bronze flame]

wg should have a more than 2 year player event

[lyric copper]

yes it’s called blitz birthdays, everyone participates

[solid gate]

What?...

How I play the Sturmhaubitze 42 aka Nightmare

[deep ivy]

@solid gate second line

[solid gate]

Accuracy is like russian

[winter rover]

How should I play the fv215b?

[violet timber]

Medium stomper

[winter rover]

Is it a front line tank?

[violet timber]

Nooooooo it’s hull armor is not good enough to frontline

[winter rover]

So if there are more heavies in my team I should go med?

[violet timber]

Basically if you go with heavies, second line support. If you go with meds, absolute stomp them

[winter rover]

Ok thnx

[manic carbon]

@winter rover Biggest mistake I see with FV215b drivers is that they play it like a typical heavy. Drive to the frontline, and they try to take on IS-4s, and German superheavies etc.
There’ll be battles where you’ll be able to go with your mediums and bully the enemy mediums with the high DPM you have, and the armour can fare a little better (though it’s still nothing amazing).

Other games you might have to go heavy side, and as said above, that is where you take a supporting role, around the second line. You can reposition, try to find isolated targets you can bully, or support teammates trying to push aside from the frontline as examples

[winter rover]

I did a few battles and lost all of them

[sterile hinge]

bruh

[winter rover]

Ik

[pale snow]

Is the armor same on the is21945 and the other is2s i checked on blitzstars and the is2pravda has 120 and the chinese also while the 1945 just 100

[hard cedar]

i think you found your answer already

[valid cedar]

would anyone know by any chance what the best angles to angle the turret and hull on the IS-2 (1945) are?

[pale snow]

yes i did just i dont understand why

[hard cedar]

well its a different tank so it has different stats 🤷‍♂️ idk why just wargaming

[ocean lantern]

Does the kv 220t have preferential matchmaking

[gentle wasp]

No

[candid harbor]

enhanced armour leo1 is great side scraper :D

but i will rather ignore such confrontation
which require such decisions

[sterile hinge]

what

[hollow notch]

"If my sides aren't overmatchable"
._.

[plucky rain]

What are the most team dependent tanks and tech tree lines in wot blitz?

[plucky rain]

Peasant.
Use Rhm or SP 1 C to sidescrape

[violet timber]

AT line and E3 line. They are non turreted and have god awful traverse basically making you almost entirely team dependent so you don’t get flanked

[plucky rain]

Push those assault tanks in the medium lane?

[violet timber]

No, they are really second line support tanks except for the T95 which can frontline

[plucky rain]

Any more team dependent lines in blitz to mention?

[violet timber]

Maus I guess? Need the team to do damage. Auto loaders as well.

[plucky rain]

What are some tech tree lines in blitz that are the least team dependent?

[arctic gate]

obj 260 sucks omg

[frigid quest]

monke git gud

[plucky rain]

Object 260 is not a heavy. It's a heavium

[arctic gate]

it stinks

[plucky rain]

It's the user that thinks it's an IS 7 but it isn't

[arctic gate]

theres no armour theres no depression

[hard cedar]

Why'd you get it if you wanted an armoured tank it's not supposed to have armor
And almost all Soviet tanks have terrible gun depression

[tulip sundial]

Soviets def aren’t know for gun depression

[arctic gate]

theres nothing going for it lol

how u gonna play as a medium it has worst frontal armour than an e50

[hard cedar]

Not all mediums have armor .-.

[plucky rain]

@arctic gate support heavy or push medium side, like playing IS 8 but with quite high dpm

[plucky summit]

Mm yes AMX CDC

[plucky rain]

Which tanks are the best and noob friendly to grind for each type of tank in blitz?

[candid lark]

Is jagdpanzer e 100 a good tank to grind for?

[plucky summit]

IS-4 as a tier 10, the grind is pretty... demanding

So yeah also Maus

[plucky rain]

Is grinding them as painful as grinding STB 1 line or 183 line?

[plucky summit]

Nope, especially against 183’s line

[plucky rain]

Which tanks in that line are good or rubbish? As in IS 4 and Maus line

[hard cedar]

Is4 line isn't even that bad imo only real bad tank is the kv4 at least that's what I think

[plucky summit]

@noble pilot for what you said in blitz-art, you'd actually prefer just a worse turret than the possibility to grind for a better one?

[noble pilot]

i mean, the grind for the best stuff is hard, but in teir 10 it just gets really hard, like Foch, ur gonna die without the auto loader

[plucky summit]

Yeah, but it sounds like you just wanna keep a bad turret, you don't have to get a better one =l

But if you want, you can

[noble pilot]

yeah, ik, if they did decide to add good turret E-100 would be near broken

[plucky summit]

Mmm, perhaps

Heck, I might just draw a new design

[plucky summit]

Give me any other reason to play bathtub

ANY other reason

[plucky rain]

Hulldown and show only gun mantlet
Snipe
225 damage is quite a lot in t5

[plucky summit]

It's a great tier 5 in general, one of my most pristine tanks, with a Raseinai's under its belt

[feral solar]

An autoloader with 4 shells was built and tested for the Panther, I am surprised that WG hasn’t made this into a premium yet

[keen garnet]

Stop giving them ideas 😂

[brave night]

An obscure design no one has heard of not in blitz???? Impossible

[feral solar]

Not really, tanks encyclopedia has a paragraph dedicated to this. It’s a 4 shell autoloader but apparently has a 40 round per minute rof. I mean if they put this in the game with 4 rounds of 160 alpha shots, thats 640 in a mag or the equivalent of a 152mm hit. Give it a long mag reload and violà, a tier 7 tvp 50/51

[feral solar]

Tbh I don’t mind this tank being in the game lol

[feral solar]

And you’d think with wg putting fantasy tanks into the game left right and centre they’d miss this?

[solid gate]

I think thie is the best 5 tier

[wheat meteor]

At2 right

[solid gate]

Yea this is 5tier v 5tier

[wheat meteor]

It’s good but I prefer the kv-1

[solid gate]

Kv 1 doesent penetrate the front either

It does a little

[wheat meteor]

True still a good tank not the best

[dusky stirrup]

KV-1 nerfed pretty bad.

[solid gate]

One time I got 2k damage but Full hp

[fast compass]

At2 is quite strong but it isn't the best tier 5

[solid gate]

Cause my front is with the best armor and also 3,6s reload 70-100 damage

[onyx sluice]

There were also autoloaders for the Tiger II and Jagdpanther, for the 88mm gun obviously not the 105 they have in-game.

[wheat meteor]

Hm what the best tier 5

[plucky summit]

T1 heavy and BDR G1B, if you want a nice TD if you know your way around, S35 CA is also a choice

AT-2 looks good but the mobility and abysmal side armor, with a small caliber gun make it an out-tradable, out-maneuverable , team-reliant TD

[wheat meteor]

I feel like the hellcat vk 36.01H, m6 and arl44 are the best tier six tanks

[raven jacinth]

Manticore for blitz, nothing from PC is brought over, Manticore keeps the same penetration values and alpha damage as the FV215b's gun. Manticore can get 2.6k-2.8k DPM. View Range will be 310.7m max, camo values will be the best among light tanks at tier 10, slightly worse than AMX ELC's when stationary, (so around 66~, assuming camo net is used) . HP will be the lowest though, 1.6k.Top Speed is 70km. Dispersion is .310 base, this can be lowered with refined & provisions. Aimtime, 3.5 seconds.Elevation angles will be weird, when the tank's turret is completely facing one side, it'll have more elevation/depression. Max is -8/+15. Max ammo count:25.

[solid gate]

Aka vickers but worse

[raven jacinth]

ppshh I haven't even gotten over every statistic

It could easily be given 200+mm HESH to make it fair + 2nd best manverbility

Manticore could be a special little tank that can effectively deal with heavies

You'd see a light tank, with a heavy tank gun, boasting the best penetration values out of all the tier 10 light tanks

It has best camo too at its tier, so it can't be easily spotted by a medium tank or a vickers

a light tank that can get nearly 70 max camo when stationary (with tier 7 camouflage crew skill and provisons) and still having 62 max when moving is pretty insane

[solid gate]

Except with the dpm it has giving it HESH is just making a clunky pre nerf sheridan and vickers combo whilst being worse than the two at survivability

[candid harbor]

but it looks hella cool

looks point >> useability points

[raven jacinth]

survivability maybe, but you aren't even supposed to be out in the open or try to get hit in it

[plucky summit]

M6 is definitely not one of the top dogs in tier 6, but the other three are pretty good

[raven jacinth]

It has decent DPM going for it, better than the Sherry, the Manticore's DPM would be on par with the Bat-Chat's and the TVP, somewhere inbetween when using CS

you can boost it to 2.94k with Rammer

[solid gate]

Casually obsoletes the 30B

[raven jacinth]

nah AMX 30 B has its own strengths going for it

Mantiore weighs way less, you can easily ram it for 500 with a bat chat going at 60.
HE can easily pen the manticore more
AMX 30 B can get more closer to enemies than manticore, it has a decent turret and great gun depression.
Manticore is forced to look sideways for the max depression/elevation angles

another thing, the crew in the manticore is way more easily injured

I don't necessarily think that the Manticore can replace any light tank/medium

the manticore is nearly forced to play the "3rd line"

[thick trout]

More campers oh great

But now with best camo at the tier and great view range, what could possibly be bad about that :/

[valid cedar]

why do people say the m48 patton is bad?

[kindred wren]

Because they are bad

[keen garnet]

Don't play low tiers kek

[median tree]

Dont sealclub

[keen garnet]

You're going down a path we can't follow

[sacred karma]

It's not the tanker way

[hollow rapids]

Its not bad, its very good imo.

[lost basalt]

very underrated

[hollow rapids]

yup

[thick trout]

It's tall, it's slow, it's gun isn't very good and it's got nice easy to pen cheeks and a cupola even if they aren't big. Its hull is paper and as soon as you turn the turret a bit the sides turn grey

[hollow rapids]

Its also got good traverse, good gun depression, which makes the armor way more usable and the turret near inpenetrable, the gun hits way more than one might think, and it hits hard.

[thick trout]

5mm more standard pen and 40 more HE alpha are it's only advantages
(I had extra equipment on the STB)

STB has better traverse, better gun depression, no reasonably large 230mm cheeks on show no matter what depression you use and a better gun

[hollow rapids]

idk I prefer the patton to the stb, but fair point

[candid harbor]

looks point >>> useful points

[hollow rapids]

^^

[thick trout]

Green is 240mm max, orange is 320mm max so it's a pennable when you aim for meds, and a memepen to anyone with 320mm+ prammo

[candid harbor]

stb is also HE penable from front

not as bad as it used to
but still is...

[hollow rapids]

If you wiggle the turret, the mantlet eats up most of the shots. Sure the stb could and might be better but the patton is nowhere near bad, i think its still very good

[thick trout]

So is Patton 👀

[candid harbor]

the more you know

stb is wee worse tho
30mm...

[thick trout]

It's basically the worst med there is atm, and meds are not a strong class rn...

[candid harbor]

i doubt it is worse than 140

[thick trout]

30mm? I can see the 80mm bit

[candid harbor]

check cupola bit

[thick trout]

140 has speed and a decent gun and a gorgeous silhouette but M48 gets erm 40 more alpha and a bit of a better turret

[candid harbor]

depression

i do agree 140 is far agile

[thick trout]

Oh you are talking about that tiny tiny section lol

Oh yeah I forgot about depression lol
How can you forget that
Shhhh

[candid harbor]

you use the ancient Soviet technique to use gun elevation as depression!

what a neeerd

[thick trout]

Actually Patton has more elevation so it does that better too 😂

The only reason I ever got the Patton was because I had the legendary camo certificate from some crate 😂

[candid harbor]

bruuh
140, what they do to you my feeble child

[thick trout]

It may be feeble but damn it's fun to drive

[candid harbor]

i agree

[thick trout]

I've barely driven the Patton but everything I remember about it was just thinking "if I was in a insert tank then I'd have hit that shot/bounced that shot/got there soon enough/won that battle"

[candid harbor]

i was just too busy hearing that engine roaring

[charred vigil]

Rammer Or calibrated on t32?

[plucky summit]

Rammer, might as well just use prammo

[wise moth]

Rammer

[charred vigil]

breh with i can barely pen front of t54 with premium ammo

[plucky summit]

I have doubts in that statement, it must be really angled, so shoot the drive wheel

[hard cedar]

Bruh the t32 has like 270 prammo pen he's probably in a med/light

[charred vigil]

I was on the hill on dead rails map and he was above me while i try to hulldown flat on no chance for me.

What will I do if a tier 9 heavy is infront of me?

[plucky summit]

245 with 2 degrees of normalization @hard cedar

@charred vigil shoot the weakspot

[hard cedar]

oh 245 iirc most t8 meds have less pen than that on prammo tho

[plucky summit]

Most have more, but mostly on HEAT for obvious reasons

[lyric oriole]

Pershing with it's 258

[hard cedar]

Idk i know t44 t54 ltwt and t44100 have lacking prammo pen

[lyric oriole]

It's something like 217 for them iirc

[plucky summit]

They have lacking pen in general

[charred vigil]

hard to aim at weakspots sometimes especially with 4.6s aim time and .376 dispersion

[hard cedar]

Indeed they do

[lyric oriole]

Oh it's 235 for T-44

[plucky summit]

Well be sad that your armor and OP consumables are in priority for T32

Also enjoy the 8.0 buff, that'll help with your puny gun =)

Besides, if the gun was good, then it'd be OP

[hard cedar]

All tanks must be op

[charred vigil]

hm yeah I like to run t32 with a very tanky build the damage is just second priority

[plucky summit]

I use Lowe for that purpose

[sudden terrace]

can we talk about this weird armour that looks like we can penetrate but we dont

[stiff basin]

Just don't shoot it, it's just a weird gun mantlet

[plucky summit]

You can penetrate the mantlet, which makes it look clear, but not what's behind it

[charred vigil]

On the Vk36 behind the mantlet is 100mm of armor so If the mantlet is like 145mm thick then you need atleast 245mm of AP pen to pen it on the flat middle part not counting the curved part

[low rampart]

Is the Amx AC 46 any good to grind for?

[tulip sundial]

No

[mystic sierra]

How to turn off hints?

[tulip sundial]

You can’t

[mystic sierra]

But they are covering shoot button

[solid gate]

bruh that ain’t a hint that a virus

[mystic sierra]

Ikr

It tells me to use consumables during the fight

[tulip sundial]

Oh those hints, I thought you meant losing screen hints

[violet timber]

Technically more since spaced armor increases the effective armor so you’d probably need anywhere from 25-40mm more penetration than the actual thiccness

[lyric oriole]

Depends on the shell type

AP and APCR shells Don't get penalized much by spaced armor

Generally about 10mm or so

Unless it's s case of a great distance in the spacing like on Super Conquerer's turret

[sweet dove]

Whats the 8.0 buff on T32?

[plucky summit]

Gimme a sec

Upper plate, 127mm to 147mm
Frontal deck, 51mm to 81mm

[sweet dove]

Wait what theyre buffing the armor?

[plucky summit]

Yup

[sweet dove]

Thats actually ridiculous. Its a substantial and going to be very noticeable amount too

[plucky summit]

Yeah, no more upper plate pens w/ standard unless you're ISU, Lowe, or T34

[sweet dove]

Its already quite strong as is and now they buff it

[plucky summit]

I'm not that ecstatic about it either :p

[sweet dove]

Still has 2k hp, reactive and a super speed boost. Now its going to have excellent armor too

[plucky summit]

At least it can't deal with heavies

loads APCR

[lyric oriole]

@sweet dove you know people are still gonna ask for a pen buff too

[sweet dove]

Well if you use reactive and hp provisions you will still outlast anything

[sweet dove]

It does need one over anything else

[hard cedar]

imo shouldve buffed pen and kept the armor the same

[lyric oriole]

"I cAN't PEn buFf PeNaTRAtIon"

It's so defensive that it doesn't need a pen buff

[sweet dove]

Well not its going to be a better tank for its tier but against tier 9 its still GL

[lyric oriole]

It might not have the ramming power of Maus, but it's certainly gonna have the durability comparably alongside good mobility

[plucky summit]

It's a tier 8 Pz. II J 😳

[lyric oriole]

Pz 2 J is a bad comparison

[plucky summit]

Also 245 APCR pen should be enough

[lyric oriole]

They ruined the armor becomes everything in tier 3 has like 70-90mm of Penetration

[plucky summit]

It still works wonders for me, I think it's OP

The average penetration of tier 3 can't pen it easily

[lyric oriole]

It's OP until you come across a Pz. III

Which tier 3 is littered with

[plucky summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/709882226946474024/829922609717706772/Screen_Shot_2021-04-08_at_10.35.57_PM.png

This is what an averaged penetration in tier 3 would see

[plucky summit]

Pz. III is also very good, but it has 65mm of pen with standard

[lyric oriole]

You are forgetting the fact that you will see the same thing back at it

And it's faster

[plucky summit]

Eh, I guess prammo trumps prammo

Pz. II J has more DPM with both on prammo, same HP, II J wins that brawl unless of course, RNG happens

[lyric oriole]

Also trades

And mobility

But mostly trades and mobility

[plucky summit]

If we doin trades Ima bap on a sidescrape

[lyric oriole]

And what if it just ignores you

Does something else

[plucky summit]

Then I harass the other dummies who are yoloing

[lyric oriole]

Do you trust your team to last that long

[plucky summit]

Absolutely, it has worked out great

[lyric oriole]

Welp, low tiers aren't my specialty

[solid gate]

like that’s a good thing

[plucky summit]

It's actually sad I only have 73% WR in it

Eh, 73.91, so 74

[lyric oriole]

You'll find me hanging around 6-8 or 9-10 depending on the day

Once in a blue moon I'll dip lower for nostalgia

[hard cedar]

6? whats so fun about 6

[lyric oriole]

T-150

[plucky summit]

I'm usually in a T-2020, Lowe, or FV215b 183

[lyric oriole]

Also all the collectors at tier 6

I like to play thunder

[hard cedar]

ah

[plucky summit]

I prefer Eraser

[lyric oriole]

When I feel too overwhelmed, Thunder is as basic as it gets hulldown, big alpha contemplate shower thoughts upon reload and relax

[plucky summit]

Mmm me play KV-2 cuz funny

[lyric oriole]

I play it when people love to say how it's not OP and is infact underpowered with the derp

It's a close range master

"It's soooooo inaccurate"

I can't miss at point blank

[plucky summit]

I said KV-2's gun is broken and peeps disagreed with me =(

They proceeded to call it not broken based on other stats

[lyric oriole]

It's broken

There is no counter argument

There is a fair amount of tanks that don't run equipment at tier 6, how might I know this? When I'm still able to one shot people with the HE shells

If they had the Improved Modules+ I would be doing 768 on average

[plucky summit]

I offered a rebalance, aka alpha decrease to 560, while other stats compensate, but they said it'd lose its specialty like any other tank in tier 6 does 560 average

We'll ignore SU-100Y in that sense

[lyric oriole]

What it needs is 560/480/640

It's honestly a hilarious joke that it has so much more HE alpha than some tier 10 tanks

[plucky summit]

Brit with 515 instead of 600:

Wait it's just 4005, rest have lower damage other than 183 :p

[lyric oriole]

Conway

The HESH

[plucky summit]

Big ouch

[lyric oriole]

Foch 155 with 680 I think

Sheridan with 680

Ho-Ri with 640

KPF 70 with 640

[plucky summit]

Well I mean FV4005 having 515 because 123mm while the rest that deal 460 with AP get 600 HE

[lyric oriole]

4005 is 550

[plucky summit]

Curse you Alzheimer's

I'm curious why the turret isn't fully traversable

[lyric oriole]

It's not fully traversable on any of the versions, I knew why once but I can't remember

[plucky summit]

M-V-Yoh OP :p

Oh man I need credits

[sweet dove]

Heh imagine they made gun firing arcs a thing

Half the tanks wouldn’t be able to shoot when sideways

KV-2 would be functionally turretless

[lyric oriole]

That would be fine by me

[sweet dove]

Yea but even 120 mm would be limited

Conqueror irl could only shoot 45 degrees to each side. Like what youre seeing with the Grille rn

[plucky summit]

How tho

[open wigeon]

Anyone knows when is Predator UM going to be available in the Shop? Or when was it last time..

[lyric oriole]

It was available I want to say like 3 months ago

[open wigeon]

@lyric oriole and before that? I just want to get the cycle so I'll know when it'll be again

[lyric oriole]

The Warhammer tanks are inconsistent

They aren't as predictable

[valid cedar]

what should i use on the type 61, rammer or calibrated?

[hollow notch]

Rammer

[valid cedar]

is the pen already good enough on the type 61 then?

[hard cedar]

gold shells exist, and the pen should be enough in most cases unless you're engaging heavies frontally

[valid cedar]

what about for the stb-1? would rammer be better there too or is calibrated better?

[hard cedar]

idk about stb sorry

[hollow notch]

Finding ways to make the rammer work will make you a better player, and when put into farming positions (which is the only good things meds are for in this meta) it accentuates the strengths that it does have, rather than putting a bandaid on a weakness.

Tier 10 meds have trash pen, with or without calibrated.

[plucky summit]

Why CS when prammo

Other than the HESH boiz

[hard cedar]

to be overkill

[plucky summit]

Confidence in your shot penetrating doesn't show up in your stats :p

[solid gate]

which branch is best for russian heavy

How I use Tiger 131?
Going frontline isn't very good because armor isn't enough even when angling

[hard cedar]

Is4, but grinding is7 first helps since the two lines share modules

[iron gale]

is bc 25t a good tank? cause I've got vickers light and sheridan and I kinda wanna get the last tier 10 light but i won't get it if it is bad

[surreal blade]

I don't really like the playstyle but it's my friend's favourite tier x. I struggled at the amx 75 and loving the 90. Still grinding to bc Ap.

[solid gate]

@iron gale not rlly worth now that tvp exists

[sacred trail]

How does one play the T49 without getting dunked on while going in to shoot?

[solid gate]

You dunk with it

In seriousness it’s a fear factor you run HE to splash what you can’t pen and heat when you get someone off guard

[frigid quest]

Sell, can’t get dunked on if you don’t play the tank

[acoustic ginkgo]

any tips for emil 2?

[candid lark]

Simple, go hulldown

[acoustic ginkgo]

thanks

[onyx sluice]

Don't fire the 3rd shell unless absolutely necessary, beware of flanking tanks, beware of mediums unless you have support. Only show your turret.

[gilded crystal]

@brisk crown U cant counter annihilators when using a no armor tank.

Tell me how to counter it than.

[sacred trail]

Is it worth going for a so-called “YOLO Strafe” where you attempt to speed towards your target to blast them with HEAT/HESH (as needed) in most cases? Several attempts usually either get me focused or it gets stopped by the armor or the tracks. Most shots to the back and unarmored HESH pens usually start a fire, while track shots with HEAT are kinda iffy on if they damage or break the track with no damage, or if it penetrates and does actual damage

[solid gate]

Never aim for direct tracks and do not yolo like that

[sacred trail]

Try lurking behind them and try for a close-quarter camp?

Does that usually work? Or should I try further back?

[plucky rain]

Should I push STB 1 line or IS 4 line?
I'm at STA 1 and KV 4 now

[lyric copper]

Save free exp for the ST-1 grind, get IS-4 first

Then do the same for the Type 61

[plucky rain]

Current free xp: 403k
My KV 4 is fully upgraded but STA 1 is still stock

Got these from battlepass as well

@lyric copper

[lyric copper]

@plucky rain get the IS-4 still

free exp the STA modules

[plucky rain]

Ok

[lyric copper]

@plucky rain bring repair kit instead of speed boost, if you want, drop adrenaline for medkit/fire ext

[plucky rain]

KV 4 has really bad dpm so I'll need the adreline

[lyric copper]

the DPM is fine for what it does

[plucky rain]

320 dmg is still kinda lackluster for a heavy that's so tall it's can't hide it's turret in some places

Trying to sidescrape in that inpractical tank

[lyric copper]

It’s tallness allows it to yeet 252Us

[plucky rain]

How to play:
KV 4
ST 1
IS 4
STA 1
Type 61
STB 1?

[ancient star]

@plucky rain kv4 is gooood

[lyric copper]

KV-4: sidescrape
ST-1: (fully upgraded) hull down, abuse 340 HEAT pen at tier 9
IS-4: do both, but less gun dep doesn’t help much, more frontal armour tho
STA-1: sniper medium
Type 61: support medium, play this one behind other mediums
STB-1: very versatile, use in almost any situation

[solid gate]

KV4: overangle and show your sides more than your front, people bounce off of it all day long
ST-1: drive forward and win
IS-4: do what you did with the St-1 but more cautiously

[atomic dock]

As a new player,I started the soviet tank destroyer line. So currently I have the Tier V TD,and next tank is 900k,while if I want to do equipment for my current tank its 450k..
So judging from is,is it better to best to go faster to Tier X and slowly play through tiers
Also should I do multiple nations at a time?

[thick trout]

It's much much much better to go slowly through the tiers. Things change a lot and you want as much time to get used to the tanks and gameplay as possible. Doing multiple nations is even better because then the game doesn't get as boring and you have even more opportunity to learn different playstyles.

[stiff basin]

If you want a different nation, pick American heavies, they are good

[atomic dock]

Thx,what about the costs?
Like I told u equipment for my current tank is 50% cost of next tier tank so idk
I guess it's better to get ur tank from stock to max,then go to another tier?

[stiff basin]

Don't buy all the equipment, buy just the two in these upper corners, go for rammer and camo

[candid lark]

Or just calli

In order to save credits by decreasing the amount of times u need to use prammo

[stiff basin]

You can pick cali, but i'd pick gun rammer, i just like it

[earnest egret]

Is vk72 that easy to pen? I'm kinda stuck on thinking if should I continue it or resume stb grind, help

[stiff basin]

The turret is decent, lower plate can be easily penned, sides are weak, and upper plate is good

I would go for STB-1, it's a great tank from what I know

[thick trout]

Max equipment on low tiers is kinda useless, if you have a prem you can play then I'd say go for the first two rows, and if you don't I'd say just the first row. At tier 5-6 you definitely definitely want the middle top equipment (improved modules or something) because of the nightmare that is the KV2

[earnest egret]

Thanks for the advice!

[stiff basin]

Ah I forgot about KV-2 lol

[thick trout]

Yeah it helpfully ruins things lol

[ancient star]

What is full form of wz

[main flower]

annihilator nerf

@stone hill annihilator nerf

@stone hill annihilator nerf

@frigid ember @stone hill @tall glacier @keen jay @frigid ember annihilator nerf annihilator nerf

[manic carbon]

smart person

[solemn sun]

China

[candid lark]

Well probably not so smart person

[hollow notch]

Low tier equipment is so cheap, you might as well go all the way

[atomic dock]

Well for t2,t3 and t4 I think it's between 400 and 4000 coins so ye
T5 hecc 40k per equipment thats sounds a lot to me currently,considering u have 9 equipments to unlock

Also,quick question here,what do u do with the exp of an tank after "it's maxed",or with the exp of a premium tank? I see u can convert it into free xp with gold but that sounds p2w,and also what do u generally use gold on?

[plucky rain]

Gold to buy premium tanks that are good. Some of them are thrash@atomic dock

If a tank is maxed and the tanks of the next tier are researched, the tank becomes 'elited'
Getting more combat xp for that tank becomes elite xp while you can use the research crew skills

Crew skills:

[atomic dock]

So in theory,it's good to do the x2 thing on all your tanks?

[plucky rain]

If you need combat xp for the tank, yes
If you don't need, ignore it

[atomic dock]

When do u unlock these?

[plucky rain]

Thought it's already unlocked the moment you start the game

I started 3-4 years ago so little recollections of when first starting blitz

[atomic dock]

I see,will review that myself then
Thx again

[plucky rain]

Welcome

[hollow notch]

I think its tier 5 or 6 where it finally shows up.

Its changed since weegee has been messing with the tutorial lately

[surreal blade]

Tier 6

[stray furnace]

What’s the point of that 5000 xp turret on the kv1 tank that come only with HE ammo ? Came before the KV2 research And the engine that have 0 improvements but necessary to unlock the kv1s ??

[solid gate]

It is less likely to get burned

[hard cedar]

More hitpoints

[sudden terrace]

nOOO i nearly won
I was 1v1 with AT 2 ,when i shooted him he had 54hp
They won on points

[solid gate]

I want this

[lyric copper]

Tier 6 tank bought

@solid gate how bout no, wheel tanks cringe

[solid gate]

Why? Because blitz is smaller and has less players they would just be worse and faster Light tanks

Like that’s a good thing

[lyric copper]

FYI the smallest caliber at tier X is a 100mm

The biggest caliber these wheely bois have is 75mm

GL penning anything frontally, or even from the side at high tier

[gentle wasp]

75mm are pedestrian at t5/6. How would they be at all relevant at high tiers?

[solid gate]

Hm

[lyric copper]

pretty sure there is also no 75mm or less past tier 8 so

[solid gate]

There are 12mm machine guns on roofs

[lyric copper]

I doubt that even the 50mm of the puma would even pen the front of the leopard 1

[solid gate]

EBR has 90mm
The real one

Even ingame

[stray furnace]

Below light tanks ?

[solid gate]

I guess

[stray furnace]

Imagine hitting the wheels

[solid gate]

You have 7 more

[charred vigil]

Yeah No this is a good idea, add wheeled vehicles that cannot pen other tanks making them worthless and not op so game no break

[plucky summit]

"good idea"
"making them worthless"

[gentle wasp]

/s

[stray furnace]

Or three

[charred vigil]

worthless wheeled vehicles in game is better than broken cancer ebr 105 like vehicles in blitz

[stray furnace]

Lool , anyway this category of tanks exist in wot i think or war thunder

[charred vigil]

They are so cancer in wot why would you want to make blitz even worse?

[lyric copper]

they’re bad in PC due to speed alone

[stray furnace]

It wasn’t my idea

[charred vigil]

Wheeled vehicles in Blitz would be more controversial than sheridan

[plucky summit]

More impactful than the reverse track mechanic that's coming

[stray furnace]

Idk what are u talking about

Ayoo does the battle ships or aircraft version exist ?

[plucky summit]

The M-V-Yoh and M-VI-Yoh will be able to very slowly back up when their track is destroyed

[stray furnace]

M-V-Yoh ?

[solid gate]

Every tank should have that, war thunder does it great

[plucky summit]

https://blitzhangar.com/en/update/8-0-preview

[solid gate]

No they shouldn’t

[lyric copper]

can’t really compare a realistic tank game to an arcade based one, plus, the way it works in WoTB will allow it to go in a straight reverse (but very slowly) compared to turning to the side

[solid gate]

I want to play war thunder

[plucky summit]

Maybe if the driver chooses to turn the tank, the rate of repair halves as long as the driver turns 🤔

[lyric copper]

go play it then instead of tryna suggest dumb ideas that clearly won’t get implemented

[solid gate]

Pc is dead

[plucky summit]

War Thunder isn't 😳

[low rampart]

Amx 50 100 is a beast against unexperienced players, 930 damage in 6 seconds is a hard punishment. The reload time gives you a feeling of wasting your time though, more so if you miss a shot.

[wise moth]

*6s technically, since it goes like this:
*blam* ... 3s ... *blam* ... 3s... *blam* done

[solid gate]

Just wait for the new tanks, if you miss both you wait like 30 seconds

[low rampart]

I was about to edit that, always confuses me.

[gentle wasp]

it's sub 20, not even that bad
plus you can blam 900 in 3.5s so it's a pretty good deal

[wise moth]

Also, a tip, is to use the reload time to relocate and look for another opportunity to clip out on the enemy. Just because you're empty doesn't mean you have to be stationary

[lyric copper]

^ the crew can load the new shells in while in the tank, they’re trained professionals

[solid gate]

I still want strv 103b

[low rampart]

True, if you count exactly the right time for moving into a position, it's moving and shooting all the way.

[midnight leaf]

then it's gonna have 75mm of he pen for some reason

[marsh thorn]

There should be an event with ke-ni otsu that tank is ridiculously good is really broken in DPM who agrees with something like that

[violet timber]

Hahahaha, no. That tank will never be sold again, because if it would be sold, the only tank in tier 3 would the the Keni-Otsu

[marsh thorn]

So how do I tell it to be a special event for him you know so I can grab it and I have to play it

[hard cedar]

what

[gentle wasp]

You don’t

[plucky summit]

Ke-Ni Otsu in its current state should never be sold again, also I would like Pz. II J to be a bit toned down

[mellow marten]

Is the t44-85 any good?

[solid gate]

is it better to have 122mm in kv1 or the 85mm gun

[violet timber]

85, the 122 is a derp gun

[gentle wasp]

Solid all-around med but nothing spectacular

[molten widget]

Is tier 7 french TD worse than max tier 6 french TD?

[gentle wasp]

Yes

[molten widget]

Oh that's good, people keep saying it's trash but of i can kill tier 7 rn it shall go with tier 7 itself :)

[frigid quest]

its decent. Good armor, good dpm but the gun depression is bad

[solid gate]

btw any recomendations on Kv1 equipments?

[frigid quest]

i wouldn’t go as far as equipping a tier 5

[frigid compass]

meh its dirt cheap anyways

[mellow marten]

Thanks!!! @gentle wasp @frigid quest

[frigid quest]

it isnt if you are newer player especially that equipment costs more than the tank

[frigid compass]

meh wg made Tier I-V equipment really cheap a while ago

[atomic dock]

Tier V is 450k for equipment,comparing to 900k cost for the actual of next tier

[hollow notch]

4oo5, tvp, e50m, or wz113gft

Pick one

[violet timber]

It take the E50M

[hollow notch]

Aight

[plucky summit]

I take 4005

[hollow notch]

Too late, I'm stuck with a bad leo1

[violet timber]

A bad leo1 with armor

[hollow notch]

The armor isn't good enough to be useful, and it sacrifices a ton of gun and mobility for it

[violet timber]

Honestly, you don’t play the E50M because it’s a “good” tank, you okay it for the rams

[hollow notch]

Both are snipermeds, the leo just does it better

And ya, RAMMMMMM

I just find the e50m to be very awkward. Doesn't have the armor, hp, or pen to fight heavies, doesn't have the dpm to fight meds. Just pain.

[sinful thorn]

E50m actually have armor, but the its size is too big. So weakspots will be exposed easier

[solid gate]

Canadian tank> Australian tank

[violet timber]

E50M is a good tank, there are just better ones

[plucky rain]

How to play T-44-85 in t7 and t8?

[violet timber]

That’s on WoT PC, not blitz

[fast compass]

Mutz? It is an average 90mm med in tier 8

[violet timber]

You can get the same tank in the tech tree called the Indien Panzer

They have basically the same armor profile so it doesn’t matter

They’re both still getting penetrated

They’re basically the same tank, it really doesn’t matter, you just have to pay real money for one

[plucky summit]

30mm sides would like to talk

It's actually easier to HE the Mutz

You can't pen either with HE frontally in a practical situation

[violet timber]

152 can pen both frontally

[plucky summit]

Ok but you need CS and the Indien not to angle

At least Indien doesn't have a big threat of HE as it turns as much as Mutz

[candid lark]

How to play su 100y i got it when i opened my big container

[plucky summit]

Snipe, abuse big alpha, press 2 when you can

[candid lark]

Ok thx i usually burah charge with another teammate

But i can get used to that

[violet timber]

I like it, buts it kind of a meh tank

[plucky summit]

The big meh

[solid gate]

OP but UP

[violet timber]

Not really op but not up either, kind of the definition of balanced

[plucky summit]

How is it OP tho

[violet timber]

It’s not

[plucky summit]

Kampf said OP but UP

[solid gate]

Has great armor but easy to pen

[plucky summit]

:|

Not great armor then

[solid gate]

Lol
Frontal::100:
Sides and rear: noooooo HE nooooo

[plucky summit]

Frontal isn’t even that OP :(

[violet timber]

Frontal op? Top of turret go brrrrrr

[solid gate]

._.

[plucky summit]

All American tanks :)

[solid gate]

True

[kindred thorn]

t57 heavy side :troll:

[pine moss]

What tank has best armor in game that is not maus?

[solid gate]

T95?

[kindred thorn]

is4?

[pine moss]

better than is7? in terms of armor?

[kindred thorn]

yeah way better than is7

[pine moss]

o I thought is7 had troll armor

[kindred thorn]

Oh it does, is4 just has actual armor

[pine moss]

ok so second most not troll armored tank is is4 got it]

[kindred thorn]

then again is4 does have troll sides and back
ive bounced the back of is4 several times

[plucky summit]

Until you press 2

[pine moss]

but does it bounce as much as is7

[kindred thorn]

yeah cause you dont have a pikenose
angle and sidescrape will help you a lot

[pine moss]

you can just wiggle the front of is7 tho

[plucky summit]

You really can’t.

[pine moss]

so is4 is the heavier heavy with better armor while is7 is less armoured but more mobile kk

[plucky summit]

Ye

[pine moss]

thanks 💯

[charred vigil]

Is7 is heavier than is4

[plucky summit]

Well they meant as a heavy role

[charred vigil]

On flat ground at a completely straight angle looking at the is7, it has stronger armor

[pine moss]

rlly

[plucky summit]

Yup, in general

[charred vigil]

Is7 is purely more enjoyable to play compared to is4 for me. the bigger and the dynamic of the is7 is just very enjoyable compared to is4s very regular play style

[plucky summit]

But practically IS-4 has better armor straight on, but IS-7 will definitely bounce when IS-4 can't

[pine moss]

idk which I want. I just the one with better armor 😫

[charred vigil]

Is4 is no doubt better

[pine moss]

armorwise too?

[charred vigil]

Yes most of the times

[plucky summit]

IS-7 is more prammo resistant, but IS-4 is better rounded

[keen garnet]

IS-4 is straight up better but IS-7 is the more enjoyable tonk

[charred vigil]

Ye

[keen garnet]

Plainly due to the speed and higher alpha

[charred vigil]

Oh yeah I don’t even mind the pen on is7 I love the fatter alpha in comparison

[plucky summit]

I use AP most of the time, I rarely need to use APCR

[keen garnet]

Ye, and the pen is just fine

[charred vigil]

People complain about pen too much

Is7 ammo rack isn’t as weak as people make it out to be

[plucky summit]

Ye

[pine moss]

ok so basically is 4 is bounciest tank in entire game

[charred vigil]

It’s close between is4 and Maus. Maus when well angled is very very bouncy

Is4 is more friendly with its armor profile not much skill needed

[pine moss]

maus is too fat and gets sniped across the map by td and sheridans

[charred vigil]

Nah

[plucky summit]

Pz. II J is :)

[charred vigil]

Maybe I’m just weird cuz I’m currently grinding for 140 when I clearly know 62a is better

Bro I just love how nice 140 looks and that’s about my only reason

[pine moss]

you can be unique!!!!!

[charred vigil]

Is4 very boring heavy but it has a lot of armor and if you enjoy that you should get it

[pine moss]

yeah I just got stb 1 and e100 so I was looking for a russian tonk

[plucky summit]

Me T-2020

[charred vigil]

All I really want is a dam Fv4202 legendary camo

[pine moss]

y u like that tank so much it is like the hardest to play in the entire game

[charred vigil]

It was my first t10 and it’s ugly AF legendary camo must make it look better

[plucky summit]

FV4202 is most definitely NOT the hardest tank to play in the game

[charred vigil]

Fv4202 is an annoying tank to play because the Hesh trolls you so much sometimes

[plucky summit]

And I play 183 =l

[charred vigil]

Bruh yeah 183 Hesh trolled me so hard today, low rolled by 300 under the average twice today

[plucky summit]

Ouch, well I still love it

[charred vigil]

Shells should no be able to low roll that much it’s so annoying

Rng in 183 is actually doo doo I low roll Hesh wayyy more than I ever average or even high roll I mean seriously wut

[plucky summit]

The higher the alpha, the more you deal with damage variation, appreciate the possible 1625s you can get from precision fire ;)

[charred vigil]

They say the average roll in Hesh is 1300 but I believe it’s actually 1200 cuz that’s the amount I usually roll in it

[plucky summit]

Feels fairly 1300 to me :p

[charred vigil]

Mmmm Bruh

[plucky summit]

I get good RNG, idk

[charred vigil]

To balance 183 give it a 75mm gun with 300mm of pen 160 alpha and 4K Dpm and a secondary gun option 😄

Matches the play style of tortoise already with that. Slow, No armor, and a lot of Dpm

[kindred thorn]

more like replace 183 with badger

[plucky summit]

If only

[kindred thorn]

badger is just much closer to the playstyle of the AT line

[sacred trail]

and then we give the Doombarn the 183 mm L4 to balance everything so the only mega-derp gun isn’t exclusive to the Death Star

[pine moss]

Is the E-100 or IS-4 better for 1v1 brawling and which has better armor?

[kindred thorn]

IS-4 prob

[lavish epoch]

how to tortoise

[lyric copper]

cry because the jagtiger is just better

[solid gate]

Is the Kranvagn worth it?

[solid gate]

Like wot pc

[onyx sluice]

Yes. The line itself is pretty fun. Especially the Leo and Emil 1.

[hasty hinge]

Yes Kranvagn is very good at hull down

As it has good hull armor

[hard cedar]

Good hull armor yeah no

[plucky summit]

Yeah that small hull profile makes it a bit of a struggle to hit the lower plate at distances

[hard cedar]

yes but it has a weak pikenose

[wise moth]

The hull is weak, but sometimes the angles can cause annoying ricochets

[lyric oriole]

The pike nose isn't that weak, any other spot sure

[frigid quest]

pikenose isnt that weak, you need td rounds or need to be pointing down at the pink, though that doesnt mean you should play a kran like a is7

[plucky summit]

Luckily 183 HESH doesn’t care about ricochets 😈

[lyric oriole]

It only cares about tracks

[plucky summit]

Or unnecessarily armored points

Yo I need to make a meme, gimme a while

[lyric oriole]

Sorry, we are fresh out of whiles

[plucky summit]

Any moments in stock?

[hard cedar]

Nope

[plucky summit]

Well you're in luck, I'm done

[timid yew]

what do you think, should i upgrade my gun?

[plucky summit]

No, there’s no point unless you want KV-2

[timid yew]

Eventually yes, but first I want to buy the IS-7

[plucky summit]

Never use the gun you don’t have yet, and get it just to bridge to KV-2 when you feel like it

[hard cedar]

Even then it sucks

[plucky summit]

Sorry Spart :p

[somber hawk]

And sheridans

[plucky summit]

@somber hawk it’s more of a ridicule of the existence of OP consumables xD

[somber hawk]

have you ever played it

[plucky summit]

Yes 😂

[somber hawk]

and yes its bad if you dont hulldown at a good position

if you manage to get to one its extremely OP

[plucky summit]

I’m just throwing shade on newer tanks with those consumables 👀

[stiff basin]

STB 1 worth the grind?

[solid gate]

No

[frigid quest]

stb is a very good medium but the grind is a bit difficult. Only the Chi-Ri, Type 61, and STB are worthwhile

[stiff basin]

Ok

[lyric copper]

you disrespecting the STA

[gentle wasp]

deservedly so

[frigid quest]

sta has terrible dpm, armor, and mobility

[gentle wasp]

If you're going to sell out for pen why not play the VTU (which is still a bad tank lol)

[lyric copper]

dpm isn’t that bad, plus it’s got one accurate gun

[violet timber]

Don’t bully STA too hard, it tries its best

[frigid quest]

DPM isnt that bad?! Troll better

[gentle wasp]

the DPM is pretty much average