vehicles-discussion

[violet timber]

I was mainly thinking of the Merkava which has the driver right under the turret, meaning to get to him a shell would have to go through the frontal armor, through the entire engine, and then through the plate separating the driver from the engine to actually kill him

[solid gate]

how mutch xp do i need to buy the entire ho ri line? from tier 1 to 10

[plucky summit]

IS-7’s crew must be so safe behind all that ammo

[candid harbor]

extra protection never fails amiritie

[violet timber]

Till said ammo goes boom in your face

[plucky summit]

I see the 183 nodding in the back

[hollow notch]

@plucky summit should I give up and go for a bike ride or grind all day?

40 freaking matches yesterday gave me ~200
Nvm

[plucky summit]

IS-2 not worth

[candid harbor]

helth more important
but grind it

[hollow notch]

I see

[plucky summit]

You have LYcAn anyways

[hollow moth]

I'd grind only for the camouflage

[candid harbor]

@hollow notch also dis
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502018644193181706/841409557879848980/funny_is-2_1945_weakspot_wotb.mp4

we found out is2 weak tank

[plucky summit]

Driver’s port

[hollow notch]

Lol

[candid harbor]

why shoot drivers port when there is massive turret ring

[violet timber]

Well you did hit a spicy turret ring

[plucky summit]

Gun kinda be funny sometimes

[candid harbor]

i was in is2 getting spanked
Smasherisbadtank was in smasher

[hollow moth]

Fun fact: Helsing lower plate can be HEd by smasher

[candid harbor]

big pog
@hollow notch wink
noe grind it faster

[hollow notch]

That honestly isn't that risky of a shot. Wow, thanks for this info

[plucky summit]

Fun fact tier 2s can pen IS-7 frontally =_)

[hollow notch]

Meh, fast bike ride it is.

[hollow moth]

: (

BuFf HeLsInG!!!

[candid harbor]

u mean dis? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502018644193181706/778544781051559956/Project_09-10_HD_720p.mp4

@hollow notch xd

[plucky summit]

Yeh

[candid harbor]

bruuh
helsing such op
much red xd

[hollow notch]

Maus has no such weaknesses

[candid harbor]

:c
unless you find one stuck on hill showing its engine deck

[plucky summit]

Nah if you hit its underside dead on

[hollow moth]

Another cool thing, MS-1 could penetrate T110E3 frontally and angled

[hollow notch]

Buff t110e3. Such a a bad tank

[plucky summit]

I love HESHing that 76mm

[violet timber]

Yeah, T110E3 needs a buff. While your at it, buff STA-1 as well

[hearty tapir]

We need to talk with the moderator is an Emergency, thanks

[plucky summit]

W e?

[hollow notch]

Dm a mod for example frostbite

[hollow moth]

Buff my Jagdpanzer E100, it's a useless tank nowadays

[candid harbor]

LMAO

[slim gazelle]

Bruh

[plucky summit]

Nah just nerf MS-1

[delicate dock]

wtf

[candid harbor]

:D
is7 stronk tank

[carmine vigil]

Which one better Action X or Obj. 252U

[lyric copper]

depends on terrain and map

[hollow moth]

On the doubt, go for ax

[clear bobcat]

cuz ur using smasher smart brain

[plucky summit]

It’s 30mm

[modern vigil]

Annihilator should not exist

[ocean lantern]

Kinda strange question, but both the jagdtiger and isu 122s have high dpm for their tier, and little armour. Is it fair to say that that makes them similar in a way?

[kindred thorn]

wdym high DPM on isu 122s

[candid harbor]

isu got no armour and it has mobility

so no

[plucky summit]

Tier gap, they deal with different tanks, and must be judged that way

[plucky summit]

3352 DPM isn't high to you?

[kindred thorn]

thats like the same DPM on regular su with the t8 122mm though right

[plucky summit]

Yes, it's still high though

[ocean lantern]

The jagdtiger doesn’t have that good armour either

[plucky summit]

Yes it does, much better than ISU-122S anyways

[candid harbor]

no child is going to go through that armour
so we can say it is child proofed

[sleek marten]

lmao

[hollow moth]

Man, T28 HTC is way better than what I remember. I surely remember to get rekt a lot by Smashers and tier 8 tanks, but idk why, the armor seems to be working better.

[gentle wasp]

it relies on people who don't know how to aim, so yea it will get a decent amount of bounces lol

[hollow moth]

I've seen way more idiots that think "I guess that the side hatches aren't part of the hit box", which is good for me

[gentle wasp]

lol

[hollow moth]

There was even an IS that did prefer to hit the small hatches on the top than actually hitting my side hatches

[gentle wasp]

special skills indeed

[neat nimbus]

just cover your side cupolas when playing with t28 htc

[gentle wasp]

it's still not that hard to pen

[neat nimbus]

even if people says this is cool i prefer the other one seems more blending in surroundings than peculiar colors

[clear bobcat]

actual blending incolors for camos will occasionally help with blending in

except for realistic mode, then i would understand

[solid gate]

T110E3 needs a dpm buff

[gentle wasp]

funny

[solid gate]

No seriously it just falls apart so easily

[latent meteor]

183 needs a alpha buff 😜

[gentle wasp]

ISU pen buff

[hollow moth]

Maus needs an HP buff and E5 needs HEAT pen buff

[storm robin]

Kran needs a turret face buff

[latent meteor]

Don't play front line with it

Watch hisroyalfatness on YouTube. He said he was playing front line and not doing good until he adjusted

[kindred thorn]

guys when sheridan speed buff

[solid gate]

I try not to, but I generally dont camp so I'm always near the front line, I only do well on Normandy, the tank falls apart quickly even on Mines
Oh and I watched HRF's video like 3 times along with some others buf I feel that the t95 is just so much better

[latent meteor]

Hmm.
Well I'd say to find a spot not in the front lines but that's still close to your team (because you cant go 1v1 against a flanking med) and do damage from there and move up and clean up when heavies are down on hp

[delicate dock]

w h a t

E3 is leagues better than that thing

[frigid quest]

do you always get HE penned? Do not run calibrated

[solid gate]

Taking HE splash is fine, but finding hulldown positions where the enemies are directly in front of me seems very difficult
No side armor, meh dpm(with rammer), and somehow terrible accuracy, just not working for me
@SilveradoHDDuramax#1274 ah ty

[frigid quest]

not running double repair kit is the way to go

[solid gate]

The t95 can at least bounce shots on flat ground or people simply miss because the cupolas are so small
It's got higher dpm, better side armor which is really nice, better accuracy
E3 has the speed and the troll cupola but it sacrifices a lot

[gentle wasp]

what
the e3 has much better armor and gun handling
and not going 16 is a huge plus

[strange fjord]

There has to be reasons why people play T110e3 and not t95, right?

[solid gate]

Yes the speed is a plus but I would argue that the armor is more effective in the t95 on flat ground and gun handling just feels better

[strange fjord]

Plus T95 front armor is only 305mm. Anything with above 305mm pen, youre doomed.

Tier 9 or tier 10 can pen your most armored spot, the 305mm flat plate

But t95 against tier 8 youre a red brick, only for the start of the battle though.

[strange fjord]

Why doesnt WG buff WZ-113G FT

[solid gate]

People pen me all day long in the t110e3

[gentle wasp]

that's a you problem because the armor is a lot better

[strange fjord]

Do they think it would be overpowered if the 80mm side plates were increased to 80mm and the front armor was increased just so mediums cant penetrate it?

Does anyone see a reason to play WZ-113G FT over other TD's?

[solid gate]

Just a worse 268
Massive weak lower plate

[strange fjord]

Weak lower plate is ok, but the top? At least give it armor on the top so there is at least a reason to play it?

[solid gate]

The top armor is always red for me, but I almost never look at the top because of its big lower plate

[frigid quest]

113g ft is a 268 with worse mobility and gun handling for reticle, sandbag, and reactivne, not really a good trade tho

[strange fjord]

If you want camouflage, play 268, you will make better use of it. If you want armor, well Foch is not exactly about armor, but with its mobility, agressive playstyle and clip its still got way more chance to bounce and make use than WZ 113G FT. And although Jagd E100 has miles worse mobility its got smaller weakspots and better armor than WZ 113G FT. If you want dpm, thats literally the last tank you should play. If you want mobility, literally 268?

[solid gate]

I just treat the foch as if it has no armor, but the mobility is very tasty
I dont win much in it but it's very fun

[strange fjord]

Unless WG changes WZ 113G FT, it will only be seen every 100 matches, forever.

And for the WZ 113G FT sandbag armor, reticle calibration and reactive armor: Its not worth trading getting both reticle calibration and reactive armor with adrenaline and repair. You should only replace adrenaline with one of them and even that is not a good idea. Sandbag armor can be traded with 3% crew mastery one, but that doesnt change a lot. In the end all of these make almost no change to the tank?

[solid gate]

Special consumables is a bad way to buff tanks
I dont want to lose credits to use my tank to its full potential

[strange fjord]

Its simply a bad idea to play a turretless TD with only one repair kit, so you have to replace adrenaline with one of the consumables and even that is only a personal choice.

Special consumables can only be a part of the tank on E5, Kranvagn line and Annihilator. That consumable being the improved engine power boost

The reticle calibration on Grille as example is quite pointless. The tank already is sniper accurate, and you wont replace either the repair kit or adrenaline for it

I would wish to get an answer from Blitz balance team for why WZ 113G FT and Obj 263 has been in this situation for so long. If they have a reason, i can easily understand it.

Yet again this is the wrong chat i just realized. Should have been #tank-balance-discussion, i cant just move all these messages to there

[latent meteor]

You good

[strange fjord]

Even if its good, it would still simply be better to talk there

[acoustic ginkgo]

If already have lorranie then should i buy progetto or ax (i can only buy 1 of them)

[gentle wasp]

Prog

[honest ice]

id say none. The lorraine is a fantastic autoloader.
If you're bent on buying one of them, try the ax. It's one of the most annoying tanks to go against in t8. Seriously op.

[gentle wasp]

AX is more seriously overrated. It’s annoying sure but not near OP.

[ashen fossil]

is the action x worth 10k gold?

or do i hold off for another tank?

[acoustic ginkgo]

I already get t26e5 too then should i buy ax ??

[gentle wasp]

No

[mighty tinsel]

Does playing BP tanks increase tactical crate drop rates?

[fiery crown]

Thoughts on this....tho I will get it since it is free

2 more coin tours atmost I guess

[strange thicket]

Bad tank

[neat nimbus]

i couldnt buy the duo bundle for two reason 1) i have the progetto 46. 2) i only did have 10k of gold

[acoustic ginkgo]

You will get 100% drop chagne if ya do a first win with a bp tank

[earnest fiber]

Wen somua sm

[plain spoke]

buff conqueror pls

[thorny smelt]

American vs British turreted tank destroyers. I need some advice. I only have is the Challenger at the moment and I think it is a bit fragile (as any tank destroyers do).

[brisk crown]

well e4 kinda sucks

[distant nymph]

but t28 prototype and t30 are great

[thorny smelt]

Is it from the tech tree like the T28?

The T-28 I know is a tier 4 Russian medium tank in World of Tanks

[distant nymph]

British TDs - shoot and scoot, they are fast-ish, they support mediums well (except the conway with its big gun and the fv4005 bc of their low DPM) and have absolutely no armor
American - from tier 8+ they are not the fastest but get solid armor against mediums. They have insanely good guns. Tier 6 and 7 play like light and medium respectively

[distant nymph]

Also - tier 8 non turreted TD and tier 8 turreted td is the t28 prototype

[thorny smelt]

I have both Jagdpanzer and Nashorn in tier 6, and Jagdpanther in tier 7 at the moment.

I have fun with those tank destroyers especially the low profile ones

[fleet tulip]

is the glacial last tank offer for coins?

[violet timber]

It’s for season coins

[fleet tulip]

yes im aware but im asking if its the last for the coins cause if its not im saving my coins for the next future offer

[balmy wagon]

It's decent and fun tho

[hollow moth]

Excuse-me, but there's no actual reason to play E4 once E100 can do it's job, but better. It may be a fun tank and with decent stats, but in the current state of heavy meta the T110E4 is slightly obsolete. @balmy wagon

[wise moth]

E-100 is clearly the better heavy tank, but E4 snipes a lot better than E-100

[balmy wagon]

It's just fun tank dude when you play it, you don't want to be a frontliner, it will good if you play as sniper or second line support, it feels better on E4 when you don't like super heavies gameplay

[solid gate]

not worth it, I reccomend you wait the t26e5. the t25e5 its best than action x bro, trust me. I have much experience on this game, I always reccomend the best premium tanks

[hollow sequoia]

yes the t26e5 is more annoying

[clear bobcat]

you should of got the jagpanzer IV, you will have loads of fun with that tier six

[surreal blade]

Oh yea almost 3k dpm with the vi gun

Never played jppziv yet but about to buy it

[sinful thorn]

No but u will get a rare crate on the first victory if the day

[balmy wagon]

Are you kidding or what?

[solid gate]

I explain more details on a video bro

[balmy wagon]

Just get T54E2 than those

[solid gate]

I have a lot of experience in this game and I inform myself too much, before speaking

[wise moth]

DPM tho. Who needs hull armor when you can have DPM

[violet timber]

Just get AMX M4 49

[solid gate]

the big problem has the t54e2 will penetration but has more aim time than amx m4 49, but the amx m4 49 has more perforation than amx. T54e2 has 221 mm and m4 49 has 232 mm. look it the difference

[solid gate]

you make good decision, Im going to make a future compares tanks, what tanks its so good vs other premium tanks,etc while I explain the best and worst in each tank, I love to test each tank

[violet timber]

T54E2 and AMX 49 are both really strong options

[hollow notch]

The difference being the amx armor is lacking

[violet timber]

Personally, I prefer the AMX even if I know the E2 is stronger

[solid gate]

there are people who think that action x is much better than t26e5 ... XDDD while the t26e5 has more good armor than action x

[wise moth]

T26E5 is roughly equivalent to AX. T26E5 has more armor and alpha than the AX, but the AX has more DPM and accuracy, so it more or less evens out. Their usages depend on the scenario

[solid gate]

but the good amx m4 49 will perforation and front armor than t54e2, the tier 7 can penetrate to you down profile ( i dont know how to express good bro, im spanish and my level english its bad, excuse me) and the t54e2 has good aiming time than amx m4 49, and something else that I don't remember right now

[solid gate]

i know but not worth it action X, only its worth it if you like collect tanks, but the community want... what tanks are best to get first?

not all are rich, I care more for the community that is not lucky enough to spend money @wise moth

[wise moth]

Out of all the one's I've played, if I could only pick a couple, they would be the Skorpion G, and Lorraine 40t, which are the only prems that are both good for grinding credits long term, and offer a playstyle that is unmatched by tech tree tanks

[solid gate]

the spanish community like my videos for some reason 1: I always say the true, if the tanks its bad and I reccomend other tank best. 2: my sincerity towards the community and my humor. and I thought make videos talking english for upgrade this beautiful language

[hollow notch]

I kinda prefer the su130pm to the skorp

[solid gate]

the su130pm its so best than scorpion G and lorr 40 t its worth it to collect, nothing more and play only to platoon

[hollow notch]

I just like the lower profile

[violet timber]

Even tho skorp is better, the SU just does it for me

[hard cedar]

Lorraine is good 900 clip at t8 is great

[wise moth]

SU 130PM loses what makes the Skorpion G good in the first place, which is the gun and the fully traversable turret.

Even in test, when 130 PM had way better stats than now, every time I played it, I was frequently having moments where I was thinking "If I were in a Skorpion, that guy would never have made it around that corner/that shot never would have missed"

[hollow notch]

Ya, but the 130 is slightly faster and the tank is the same size as the hull of the skorp.

[solid gate]

no approximattely make 800 or 850 yes its good, but hard to play the only reason the gun not its good of all... and... dont recommend anything to fight front tank, its only worth it make flank

[hollow notch]

It's just painful to hide a paper barn

[violet timber]

The clip potential is 900 on average

[wise moth]

I don't mind the Skorp's profile because of the fully traversable turret, which lets it play with corners and rocks and stuff much better, whereas the rear mounted gun on the 130, coupled with more limited turret traverse makes it much more awkward to play

[hollow notch]

Rear mounted, yes, but the traverse angle is so wide its effectively a full turret

[wise moth]

That rear mounted gun was a huge deal breaker for me when I played the 130. It just made it so incredible awkward in so many scenarios

[hard cedar]

The clip is 900 dmg (4*225 alpha) on average, and the mobility on the tank is good as well, and yes don't play it from front line but I don't see how that makes it bad

[wise moth]

The thing is, not having the full 180 frontal arc like an E4 with the rear mounted turret really is a deal breaker in a lot of situations. For example, if you're trying to peek from around a rock or a house, you have to pull the entire tank out to shoot, whereas something like an E4 or a Skorp only needs to poke with half of their front end, then pull back perpendicularly to go safe

[solid gate]

The problem of the skorpion that is very big, the good thing about the su130pm that is smaller and has a higher degree of depression, believe or not 7 degrees of depression is ideal for a novice player but bro the more important, if you enjoy more to play skor than su130, Seriously im glaid to you fun that tank, but I reccomend more the su130pm the causal players, I played skorp and su, I like more su for the size and has more depression

[hollow notch]

Reverse ._. Come on man, the gun is right at one end of the tank

[solid gate]

the big problem has french premium.... will the gun, sometimes you dont miss bullet but in there moment whe you miss bullet for the face

[violet timber]

The problem with that 7 degrees of gun depression is the rear mounted turret, making it really only 5 in practice

[wise moth]

Sidescraping out is not ideal, because it's much harder to go full safe, since you'll still be exposing your side when you pull back into cover, and you have to do some wiggling shenanigans to hide it again

And you obviously can't reverse peek like an FV heavy or bat, since the gun doesn't turn back that way

[hollow notch]

What? You can just drive straight forward and backwards. No wiggling

[hard cedar]

Wdym? You mean you miss shots? You miss shots in any tank and iirc Lorraine has like .28 dispersion with refined gun

[solid gate]

I use vertical stabilizer in all tanks, except in tanks that do not have a turret or have bad dispersion.

[hollow notch]

And also, after you take a shot and get spotted, having the front of your tank pointed towards the cover allows you to get in cover faster than backing up.

[hard cedar]

🤷 even without refined the dispersion is not that bad

[wise moth]

If you're missing shots in a Lorraine, it's still pretty much on you. The aim time/gun handling/dispersion combo on the Lorraine is overall one of the best of all tier 8 meds, only worse than a few tanks, like the Germans and the Centurion

[plucky summit]

AH, Germans an their laser guns x)

[hollow notch]

Full motion yeeted shells go brrrr

[violet timber]

Besides, with Lorraine mobility you can get right up behind some one, empty your clip, and drive away without worrying about dispersion

[solid gate]

I know but hopefully have that replays for can share you but I know its the rng like disturb the battles and ghost bullet, miss bullet, bounced illogic,etc. Lorraine its good but.... need more pacience for reload and empty the bullets but I like lorraine...

[hard cedar]

Ghost shell problems are present on every tank not just the lorraine

And for reload almost no autoloaders have a short reload/high dpm

[solid gate]

sometimes wargaming likes to troll when you shot and... bounced, ghost bullet,etc. I already said my opinion to @hard cedar

[wise moth]

*laughs in T69 best in class base DPM with a faster reload than 252U*

[hard cedar]

🤧 emphasis on almost

[solid gate]

i know but not funny be autorealoader and the last bullet will be ghost bullet when can destroy the enemy with that bullet hahahaha

[solid gate]

but I said this before. its funny but hard to play because you depend too much the team

[wise moth]

Genuine ghost shells are pretty rare. Most of the time, it's just a miss that your bad internet caused you to not see, and the rest is just server desynch.

Either way, it's not tank specific, it's not like certain tanks "ghost shell" more often than others

[violet timber]

Ghost shells are also so rare that there isn’t really a point in bringing them up to say a tank is bad

[wise moth]

^

[plucky summit]

Most effective against 183

Well, I think KV-2 more but it's not tier 10

[hollow notch]

Weegee should introduce a dud shell mechanic

[violet timber]

No just stop right now

[hollow notch]

for epic areengee moments

[hard cedar]

No please no

[wise moth]

I already find the max roll crew skill to be annoying enough. I don't also need a chance of my own shells doing 0
My shooting is bad enough already

[solid gate]

ghost bullets happen when you least expect it, but it's annoying that it happens to one being autoloader 😂 😂 😂

[wise moth]

I don't think I've ever had a case of a ghost shell.

[hollow notch]

Imagine almost pulling off a 1v5 and then getting slapped with a dud across the face

[solid gate]

lucky hahaha

[plucky summit]

Me in my Matilda like a year ago

[wise moth]

It's not luck. That's just how the game works. The next time you have a ghost shell, look carefully. You'll be able to see how your shell missed

[solid gate]

and @dusty ice What is your function? is that I am new and such

[solid gate]

it's like a dice cx

[hollow notch]

Only time I have noticed them was after an update a while ago, where every battle I had at least 1

[hard cedar]

Most of the time they're not ghost shells I've had a lot of shots go barely above the enemy and hit a wall or something

[wise moth]

For example, one time I lost my team a tournament because this happened to me. Any non-knowledgeable player would have called it a ghost shell, but the second I bounced, I knew this was exactly what happened

[static harness]

How exactly would someone think it's a ghostshell if it still hit?

[solid gate]

logic, but I said that you shoot and see how the bullet goes through

[gentle wasp]

judgement is easily clouded in the heat of the moment

[wise moth]

^

[wise moth]

Normally, with people complaining about that, 9 times out of 10, it's server desynch. What happened is there was a packet or two dropped, so their device showed them firing straight at the enemy after traversing their turret, and since tracers are drawn client side, it shows a tracer straight through the enemy.

But what actually happened, is that the server had not yet registered their gun as pointing that way, so instead, when they fired, their gun was actually lagging behind where they thought it was, and the shell hit the dirt off to the side

Basically, in a nutshell, get better internet

[solid gate]

does it take 500mb to play a shette game?

[solid gate]

"your internet speed is very fast"

stop protecting a game that only cares about pulling out boxes and the community doesn't give a shet, I've been playing wot blitz for almost 6 years, thanks

[wise moth]

Look at the latency though. 44ms to Lisbon, which is much, much closer than the WG EU servers in Amsterdam.

Think about internet like a pipe. Your pipe is very wide, but the water flowing through it is not that fast

[static harness]

How much effective thickness is on that AT15 cupola?

[solid gate]

playing other games such as battlefield, etc, I am fluent, I have even talked to friends who have better internet than me and they pass phantom bullets to them, the game's algorithm works when randomly

[gentle wasp]

the main face of it is about 127mm effective

[solid gate]

the tier 7 can penetrate to you easily, but depends if you dance, dont move,etc

[static harness]

No I was just wondering
Because I just set 2 clips worth of 13 90 apcr into that cupola and didn't get a single pen
So i was wondering how much rng hated me there
Also lost me the game but eh

[hollow moth]

I will start to hate T28 HTC because of this middle finger first class

[plucky summit]

Someone beatcha :p

Well, some people beatcha :p :p

[solid gate]

Omg whiteboy the best yt

[worthy nymph]

American heavy or Japanese td line help me to choose

[soft tiger]

I need help. How do I play Jpanther II? Everyone can pen me and getting a good sniper spot is really hard.

[solid gate]

Hide the lower plate

[stiff basin]

American heavies are fun because of the consumables and how flexible they are

[soft tiger]

But they can pen the top plate, lol

I looked on the WOT blitz official site and they said it’s a good tank for ambush and sniping

[gentle wasp]

Please don’t snipe in it

[soft tiger]

why

[gentle wasp]

Because “sniping” for most players means sitting at the back of the map being completely useless until their entire team is dead.

The E-50 also doesn’t offer the best alpha or DPM for the job so if you’re going to snipe you’re really not getting the most out of the tank. It also has APCR for prammo which loses a good amount of pen over distance.

[wise moth]

I was just going to say that E-50 is an early game sniper. 0.3 accuracy and pretty solid DPM actually allow it to snipe fairly well. The armor won't hold up against most enemies, and in the modern heavy meta, you don't want to sacrifice any HP needlessly.

As the game progresses, then you can use the heft of the E-50 to brawl enemy lights/meds and engage them in close combat, or continue to snipe away at heavy targets from a distance, where the armor is substantially harder for them to deal with

[soft tiger]

So what DO you suggest?

[gentle wasp]

Pretty much what Positive said, set up somewhat ranged engagements early so you don’t overextend and bleed HP. When you know where the enemy positions are then you can start thinking about aggressing on isolated targets which is what the E-50 is good at.

[wise moth]

E-50 has to be careful with trying to find isolations, because unlike faster tanks, it will struggle a little bit more against heavy targets, since it can't run rings around them and shred them down like a PTA can, and it can't clip them down either like a Bat or a Skoda.

E-50 can only win fights against isolated targets if it's an enemy light/med, or a slow TD

[thorny smelt]

I already mentioned it, bud

[storm robin]

If I already have the T26E5, should I bother getting the CAX?

[lyric oriole]

No unless you want to collect tanks

[heavy sphinx]

The M-V-YOH's turret has a very funny shape, but the very extreme angles will make it very difficult to penetrate at most points.

[grizzled dust]

That tank must have a lot of thinking itself to have such a brain to body ratio 😂

[heavy sphinx]

🤣 👍

[plucky rain]

Some say E 50M is out of meta
Opinions about it, and how to play it?
Also kinda stuck at Panther 2 now and looking for tips

[keen garnet]

E 50 M is still a solid tank
Excellent gun and lovely mobility for the amount of armor it has, it is practically a HT with a bit less side armor that it trades for more speed

[plucky rain]

So how to play:
Panther 2
E 50
E 50 M
Play like support tanks?
Or which line is the best noob friendly medium line for now?

[rigid thunder]

all mediums are hard to play, but imo specifically russian mediums are comfortable enough to teach you their playstyles

[keen garnet]

All have pretty much the same playstyle tbh
Although in my experience, E 50 and E 50M have way more armor tier for tier and won't be buttered thru with prammo

[plucky rain]

Weak schmalturm turret and hull like Panther 1?

[keen garnet]

Yup, the turret is pretty much the same story

[plucky rain]

Their reputation for ammoracks though

Need tips for:
T-43
T-44
T-54
T-62 A

[rigid thunder]

those tanks just have bad ammorack placement, like all other NATO tanks at tier 10, and the T110E5. Basically, not a thing you should care about.

[thorny smelt]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dXP0QhbBDC8

[rigid thunder]

can't really give many tips for those tanks but generally you need to stay hull down in those tanks due to mediocre hull armour (except the T-54). The guns they have all come with great stats hindered by mediocre penetration, so you need good positioning and aim to hit sides/weakspots of tanks. (The 62a is exempt from this).

[plucky rain]

Oh thanks

How to properly sidescrape in E 75 given it's weak turret against t10 tanks and the side armour only being 80mm like tiger 1 and 2?

[low rampart]

Not really a sidescraping tank, you can barely do it and by then they'll have penetrated your turret face. The way is to the good ol' fashioned shoot and roll back to cover. Similar to the Tiger 2 on this aspect.

[lavish epoch]

Panther
88 or 75 L/100 ??

[frigid quest]

75mm or just use a russian medium or Eagle instead

[dusky osprey]

Definitely L/100

[slate fable]

Will the 15cm s.IG 33 (Sfl.) auf Pz.Kpfw.II be introduced?

[storm robin]

Tbh you should try the 140, its style carries over better from the 54

[plucky rain]

Isn't 140 outclassed by 62 alr?

[obtuse galleon]

any tips for the rudy and cromwell b i bought the bundle just yesterday

[hollow moth]

Rudy is all about to use your flexibility and agility to your own sake, so you'll be able to outsmart your enemies even if you're working with a low penetration gun
Useful notes from a Rudy enjoyer:
Be really careful if am enemy can see your sides, Rudy gets on fire pretty often.
Using CS (Callibrated shells) on it isn't a bad idea, since your penetration is really frustrating sometimes. I'd prefer a slightly better chance to penetrate the enemy than a reload 0.4 second faster (which is extremely situational)

For Cromb, I can't give much details because I rarely played with it, but it's a funny tank in an overhall.

[median tree]

Crom b has no armor, but the gun depression and reload is pretty good, and very good mobilitee

Tbh, just dont snipe

[rigid thunder]

contrary to what the other guy said, I'd recommend running rammer on the rudy. Good mobility with incredibly high flexibility (highest traverse speeds of tier 7 MTs means you can make turns very easily) makes positioning and flanking very easy to do. Combine this with incredibly high DPM (2.7k with rammer) and 200 alpha, and you get a very dangerous tank. Using CS barely improves your mediocre penetration, 7/10 more AP/APCR pen helps nowhere, while 200 more dpm will help in maximising your carry potential, since the mobility will allow you to abuse the dpm very often. Also take note to bring HE with you, since soviet 85mm HE gets for some reason a +50% alpha increase, from 200-300, giving you 4k HE DPM at tier 7.

[solid gate]

We need ebr serise in this game that will be perfect cuz it has at wot pc too

[strange fjord]

Ebr in blitz is the last thing community wants

Lets have a 4 wheeled tank that roams around in 90 km/h, what could go wrong?

But T-100LT will be added to the game. I suppose it would have decently good dpm, good camouflage ratio maybe better than bat-chat and vickers , 260 view range, trash accuracy and aim time (but good on-move dispersion), a 280-310 alpha gun , 5 degrees of gun depression and a nice 70 km/h max speed and the best t10 mobility in the game

It would have some armor but literally everything will pen its armor that is around 200mm frontally, but that means a very slight chance of bouncing

[jade torrent]

Merkava on blitz?

Mk 1

[strange fjord]

lets have m1a2 abrams in blitz with classified amount of impenetrable composite armor , light tank speed and depleted uranium ammo that oneshots anything. Also 1000m view range, 0.05 accuracy and 0.1 aim time and 4000 dpm

[jade torrent]

The mk1 didnt have composite armor I think

[strange fjord]

im talking about m1a2 abrams

[jade torrent]

Ah I thought that was an example

[onyx sluice]

You could overmatch Abrams UFP with larger caliber guns and penetrate the LFP since it is just RHS.
Only the turret has composite.

[solid gate]

No? The front literally has a composite array

[onyx sluice]

My bad, it was actually composite.

[solid gate]

Imagine the k2 black panther in blitz

[rigid thunder]

yeah, the merkava mk 1 wasn't protected by composite armour

[vast fern]

I think level 11 tanks should be brought to the game and these tanks should be modern tanks.

[plucky rain]

There is a game known as World of tanks: Modern armour

[storm robin]

It depends tbh: the 62A has better gun handling (while not moving) and depression as well as an excellent turret front - this comes at the cost of horrendous hull armour. Meanwhile, the 140 has an actually usable hull, somewhat better mobility, a somewhat better gun (AP has better normalisation values than APCR) and better on-the-move gun handling, but this comes at the cost of turret armour

[plucky rain]

Why does it feel like comparing a Type 59 to a T-54 mod 1

[storm robin]

Tl;dr: the 62A is better for fighting on ridge lines and sitting hull-down, while the 140 is better for brawling

[storm robin]

In a way it kind of is? The 62A is somewhat better cos hull-down is meta, but 140 is more fun

[plucky rain]

Mod. 1 has the hull
Type 59 has the turret

[storm robin]

also, it’s telling that the 62A is almost never used for tourneys, but the 140 is

[plucky rain]

Just that both are kinda powercrept now, the t8s

[plucky rain]

This year or 2 years ago?

[storm robin]

This year, though the T22 is kind of replacing it

[plucky rain]

Heard t22 is still kinda uncomfortable to some in tourneys tho

[storm robin]

Eh, tbh in tourneys, armour on meds is preferable to firepower

[plucky rain]

So 140 and t22 is still good in tourneys and T-62 A is only for pub stomping?

.

[storm robin]

In a sense, yes?

[plucky rain]

So yes or no?

[storm robin]

Man I only have the 140, I can’t judge (unless the 121 is getting brought into the equation too)

[thick trout]

140 is generally used in tourneys over the T62 because of its top speed, both tanks are butter to CS HEAT so there's almost no reason to take a T62. The 140s hull is also pretty bad so the T62 is the best option for random battles until you start getting into a playstyle that uses rotations a lot

[plucky rain]

In that case, what are the tournament tanks for:
t6
t8
t10

[broken turtle]

i need advices on the amx m4 46, the tier 7 french td.
Its best way to play it is sniping, that all. It can't push well as the hull traverse is slow so u can't be mobile againest med. The armor is bounce-able but not much and there are others weak spot like big cupola and lower plate. The tank is big among with the big cupola made it really hard to hulldown, and the side is HE-able with 122mm++ gun

Not every maps can have spot to camp, so how can i play the tank on map like copperfield or dynasty pearl, or any other (even most) map like that, thx

[stiff basin]

T6 ARL 44
T8 Obj252u or 112-2
T10 Is-4 or T110E5

[keen garnet]

T6 mostly are ARL 44, VK 36.01H, and Hellcats from my experience

T8 will probably be CAX, 252U, Emil 1, Tiger 2, BeshDog, Pogetto 46, etc

T10 are IS-4, Kranvagn, T110E5, Vickers Light, T-22 Medium, Maus

[rigid thunder]

for tier 10, the maus is not a bad pick as well. Though, this is just from what I've seen

[keen garnet]

Oh yeah true, Maus needs to be added as well

[valid cedar]

does the vick's low alpha limit its effective total dmg done in battles pratically in comparison to the sheridan?
Im choosing between the vick and sheri, and if the low alpha of the vick in comparison to the sheri isnt a big problem id prob go the vick for the better gun handling and tiny hulldown potential

[rigid thunder]

350 alpha is by no means low

[valid cedar]

compared to the sheri i meant

[serene rock]

where can I get a link to an open test

[rigid thunder]

the sheridan has a higher alpha compared to every tank in its type (mt/lt), so not really a good basis of comparison.
In other words, the vickers light is extremely powerful, and the lower alpha damage than the sheri is noticeable, but the significantly better stats elsewhere give the vickers a much higher effective dpm than the sheri

[valid cedar]

whats the vick at better than the sheri?

[rigid thunder]

everything but out-trading tanks lol

[solid gate]

Vickers line more like Mobile Harassment Center I swear, I think I'd win a harassment lawsuit against them ngl.

[stiff basin]

Sheri is HESH proof

[rigid thunder]

that is such a situational advantage...

[stiff basin]

But you won't be as raged when getting hit by a 183

[rigid thunder]

getting hit by a 183 in a tank as mobile and armoured as a vickers light means the only thing you should be enraged at is yourself

[valid cedar]

does the vicker's light have good side armour?

[stiff basin]

Not really

[valid cedar]

how do people play vick then

[stiff basin]

hulldown peekaboo, spotting, capping, doing light tank stuff

[hard cedar]

I've been able to he a sheri in the front before 🤔

[stiff basin]

Because sometimes enemies are lucky

[solid gate]

I maxrolled HE once lmao yes frontal pen.

[hard cedar]

True sheri has spaced armor everywhere

[solid gate]

Hi all

I think WG must install the dynamic supension for all tanks in the game because IRL all tanks have it.

Look at this

[keen garnet]

Dynamic Suspension is coming to the game in 8.0
Possibly a month or two :)

[solid gate]

Ye but only for the M-VII-Yoh line

[keen garnet]

Nope, dynamic suspension is coming for every tank in the game
It's just the PBR models that's only for the new line

[solid gate]

Oh yeah !!

But why the PBR is better ?

[past crane]

idk, it looks nicer. PBR tanks will be added each update progressively (kinda like in WoT PC with the HD models) until every one is updated

[hollow sequoia]

not true, turret, front and rear lower glacis and the armor plate behind the tracks are all HE-able

[solid gate]

What u guys think about the vindicator? I mean it‘s just another tank with a big gun and it looks i bit like wargaming wantet to bring in tue sturmtiger but also not wantet to bring in the sturmtiger so they brought this thing

The Vindicator is a very good tank because it is not like the ISU 152 or another TD, the vindicator is impenetrable on his front for a tank with a normal gun

[violet timber]

Not really, the armor can’t hold up against a lot of tanks, gun is absolute garbage, and you don’t have a whole lot of mobility. Overall, it’s a bad tank, just play SU-152

[onyx sluice]

Met them in battle a couple of times and they are nothing special, the gun depression is a big OOF and it can still be penned in the front.

[solid gate]

Yes, right, but it's a tank like an SU 152 then a good tank. It can hit 960 damage with HE

[violet timber]

So can SU, but SU has actual mobility

[solid gate]

Su is better than the vindicator

But still i would prefer the sturmtiger and not an random fantasy tank

Me too

[violet timber]

We’d be more likely to get a brumbar than a sturmtiger

[solid gate]

But the Sturmtiger is not the vindicator

Both, sturmttiger and brummbär, sturmtiger X and brummbär IX

[violet timber]

Brumbar would get torn apart in tier IX

[solid gate]

Then brummbär tier VI or VII

[violet timber]

Either VII or VIII

[solid gate]

Yea, and both should be premium

[hard cedar]

First time I've heard someone want a tank to be premium

[solid gate]

And then with the sturmtiger we can also bring the WT E100 back as a premium

it was removed because it was too op but there are enough other op tanks still in the game

[violet timber]

That was WoT PC

[rigid thunder]

nothing can really beat the wt auf e100 in terms of strength level, and it never hit wotb.

[violet timber]

WT E100 was something special among the op premiums

[quick obsidian]

The M3 Lee Is a AP slapper I can so up to 2 000 DM.

[lyric oriole]

It actually can't reach that

[quick obsidian]

Huh

[violet timber]

M3 Lee may be the worst medium in the game, imo

[quick obsidian]

I might be your skill that makes it bad.

[lyric oriole]

Its max DPM is 1752, and that's assuming level 7 adrenaline, level 7 rage, also one shotting people back to back, and the adrenaline consumable

[violet timber]

Uh huh, right

[gentle wasp]

Yes mayo just git gud to change concrete stats at will smh

[lyric oriole]

There is no reason to play M3 over M7

[violet timber]

I love to play bad tanks, hence why my favorite tank in game is the STA-1. However, I stay away from the M3 Lee for a reason

[quick obsidian]

M7 Armor is trash tho

[lyric oriole]

Actually the armor is better than the lee

[quick obsidian]

I pen Its armor every time.

[lyric oriole]

Lee has flat armor

[violet timber]

I pen M3 Lee every time

[lyric oriole]

M7 doesn't

M7 also has a Turret

[gentle wasp]

Yes why have armor when you can be a big paper barn

[quick obsidian]

My favorites are the shermans.

[lyric oriole]

It shows

[quick obsidian]

Lol then these people are missing me and aiming for my non pen spots

[gentle wasp]

Because it’s tier 4 and people have failed to find the fire button. Doesn’t make the tank good.

[quick obsidian]

What website is that?

[gentle wasp]

Wotinspector app or wotinspector.com

[lyric oriole]

All the Shermans in the game except Sherman V which is good, but not much else, and M4A1 Rev are the only good Shermans in the game

[kindred thorn]

t6 shermans 🤮

[violet timber]

What about the jumbo?

[gentle wasp]

Lol

[lyric oriole]

Poor DPM and gun handling

Beyond balances it

[violet timber]

Ah, gotcha

[hard cedar]

Can t10 heavies go through is4 upper plate if they load heat without cs

[gentle wasp]

Plus is the armor relevant anymore? Seems like there has been a decent amount of power creep even at t6 because of better pen numbers.

[kindred thorn]

yeah you can

[lyric oriole]

The armor still holds up a bit but let me show you a secret

[hard cedar]

ouch rip

[gentle wasp]

O no

[solid gate]

Hello

[hard cedar]

Hi

[lyric oriole]

It has basically no protection at the tracks, so when they angle I happily oblige and fire underneath the 76mm armor

[gentle wasp]

yikes

[violet timber]

Oh shoot

[solid gate]

side of the turret is red

[lyric oriole]

Those little skirts

They don't exist

[violet timber]

Bruuuuuuh

[lyric oriole]

A suprising amount of people don't know that

[solid gate]

No there was also the wt e100 in blitz

[violet timber]

Nope

[lyric oriole]

It was never in blitz

[tardy arrow]

whats so fun about playing bad tanks, unless derps like 183
losing isnt fun

[violet timber]

A lot of players under rate them and so going in you can start stomping when they think you aren’t a threat

[lyric oriole]

^^^

This is actually very true

[quick obsidian]

this is what i did with the M4

[tardy arrow]

fair, like when i face a sta im just like "free damage"

[lyric oriole]

I've had players ignore me when I'm in SP I C in close range and focus on low health enemies more times than I can count

Which is quite nice to Mow them down with fairly steady DPM

[violet timber]

STA is pretty much free damage, but good players will make you work for that damage and punish you in the process

[tardy arrow]

i dont see many if any good players that play sta unless theyre grinding
its just a boring tank tbh

[lyric oriole]

I play it once in a blue moon, it's a sniper, and many fail to realize that

[violet timber]

Well, it’s out dpm’d by most tanks it will face, it doesn’t have enough mobility to run, and it’s armor might as well not exist. But there’s just something undefinable about it that makes it fun for me

[tardy arrow]

it must be the anime girl attachment in the garage

[lyric oriole]

That's the idea, playing at range let's you artificially male your armor a bit better against low calibers, you have some of the best accuracy stats, and camo ratings for tank type at tier 8, solid Penetration and a very useable profile

[lyric oriole]

Too bad it doesn't come into battle

I want my turret loaded, gimme a sec to get the screenshot

[hard cedar]

wait theres an anime girl attachment what

[lyric oriole]

Let's cram more onto the turret

[tardy arrow]

jaja

[violet timber]

I mean... maybe. Just maybe

[solid gate]

can yall estimate what the m-viii-yoh would cost in xp. i know it starts with m6.

[kindred thorn]

600k-700k xp, maybe more

[solid gate]

not that. the one that starts at m6. and not the line

[kindred thorn]

Oh just the tank itself? prob around 50k-60k

[solid gate]

ight thx

[slate fable]

15 cm StrumPanzer?

[solid gate]

since when was the anime there?

[frigid quest]

xaxaxaxa weebs these days

[low rampart]

Is it better to use the 400 alpha on the IS or the IS-2? (Chinese version)

[candid harbor]

i think 100mm is better on Chinese one

[solid gate]

Sorry but carreful "Made in China" is not very good...

For the guns too xD

[low rampart]

@solid gate Everything is made in china though, lots of good stuff.
The TDs and medium tanks are decent, the heavy line is lacking for me, but i've only tested the IS-2 so far.

[plucky summit]

Ok not the TDs

[low rampart]

@plucky summit Don't Tell me that, I've made it to tier 8 already...

[plucky summit]

:p

Have fun because that's where it all falls apart

[hard cedar]

chinese tds are just soviet td wannabes

[plucky summit]

Yo for some reason my tank compare is messed up, lemme correct it

Yeah that's what I missed

[solid gate]

Hi, must I buy the leopard PTA with 70k exp libre or wait and rush with the RU 251 ?

[plucky summit]

WHAM

Twenty. Eight. Percent. Worse

[violet timber]

However, you gain armor and hp as well as better gun handling

[plucky summit]

Look, if they buffed the frontal armor to 230mm and the frontal sides to 120mm, it might just be worth considering over other tier 9 TDs

[analog light]

I Have Question i just came form pc to this more fair version and im wondering if i want to get the vk 100 again is the tiger p bad in this game or is it acualy good

[plucky summit]

It's a good brawler, stay away from high alpha tanks and Black Prince/FV201 A45 and you should be good

[analog light]

i never thought id hear to stay away from the black prince but i gues its balanced in this game then

[mighty tinsel]

Gib free xp plox I'm poor.

[hollow notch]

The prince has murderous dpm in blitz. The alpha is still pathetic though. Trading it 1 for 1 and there is nothing a prince can do.

[low rampart]

The Wz-111g ft is not bad as a hull down TD, it can block most tanks shots except high-pen gold ammo.

[hollow notch]

The wz dies have the dpm to put put damage. And things like the jagtiger exist as competitors...

[low rampart]

That's a stronger competitor, the dpm comparison is strong. The turret cheeks on the Jagdtiger can be penned more easily on hull down, and it has less mobility. Those are the only negatives.

[thick trout]

The WZ TDs are just paper the instant they aren't looking directly at you or if you have a decent AP shell

[plucky summit]

T-54 ltwt =_)

[flint eagle]

Who wears short shorts? ... lol (old commercial)

[lyric oriole]

Yes, yes, I'm aware of the commercial

Nair

[idle mica]

Was in a battle today and a player on the other team was running a T7 Super Hellcat. How do I find out more about this tank?

[gentle wasp]

It’s a future premium tank, only testers have it right now

[idle mica]

How do I become a tester?

[gentle wasp]

Only select players from top clans get testing privileges

[lyric oriole]

Not just top clans, there was applications for other clans about a year and a half ago that were being taken

They aren't taking applications anymore as far as I know

[frigid quest]

Only a few people from top clans and CCs have access

[tardy arrow]

Testing is a joke, you have top players with testing but then also bottom top 8 and 16 clans with testing. At least on NA.

[brave night]

Only top 16 so terrible how can I live with this

[stiff sedge]

this is what the tiger 2 should look like (and it should have upgraded attachments)

[solid gate]

And why should it look nothing like it’s actual self

[tardy arrow]

Yep, multiple top 4 clans don’t have testing yet top 16 clans do....

[next solstice]

The only "top 16" clans that ik that have testing are ones that are a feeder to a "higher" clan. And even then, the testing spots are only given to the leaders of that feeder.

Besides, alot of NA clans that you CAN make an argument for testing either don't actually have anything in their repetoire... or they do but the issue is they barely last the season before that clan splits off or self-implodes again.

[tardy arrow]

I can name a handful of clans that are barely top 8 and a couple that haven’t even made top 8 in multiple seasons

[next solstice]

You're saying that clans that have failed to do anything worthwhile RECENTLY(since winter, spring, etc) should have their testing perms revoked?

[tardy arrow]

I think wg should update testing privileges after every spring and fall season. Or at least after every fall. This way new top clans will get what they deserve and old washed ones wont. Seems fairer to me

~~didn’t include examples cuz might get nuked for name shaming 😳 ~~

[next solstice]

Think my only concern is making sure that the new top clans aren't
"temporary" clans that are just there to house that seasonal team.

[sacred robin]

I feel like the FCM reload time is slow

[hazy bear]

I feel like the T30 is underrated

[radiant coral]

Not really, it could be a T10 and way better that’s the thing imo

[solid gate]

Has annihilator or smasher ever been sold in store? I do not really follow what's up ther because I'm F2P

[stiff basin]

Smasher was only in crates

[analog light]

is the Vk 100.01p Les Powerful in Blitz?

[blazing bloom]

everyone is talking about the IS-7's ammorack being in a very bad place in the tank but are we just gonna ignore the T110E4's ammorack?

[plucky rain]

See leopard 1's ammorack lol

[blazing bloom]

bruh

[solid gate]

If anything that’s a relief the ammorack isn’t placed in the very large and weak turret

[acoustic ginkgo]

proggetto 65 line or tvp t 50/51 line which one is better ?

[keen garnet]

Progetto line IMO

Standard B is better than Skoda T50
Pantera is miles ahead of TVP VTU
P 43 .ter and T-34/100 are average mediums
P 43 .bis is worse than the Skoda T 25

As for Prog and TVP T50/51 themselves, I cannot comment much due to me not having the TVP

[leaden trench]

#general-blitz-discussion

[upper flint]

When will 121b be on sale again

[manic carbon]

Who knows

[analog light]

is the vk 100 weaker on blitz when compared to pc

[storm robin]

Why would you want the 121b when the 62A or 140 exist (not to mention the 121)

[violet timber]

Because 121B has the 350 alpha gun, making it a mix of a Russian medium and NATO medium

[strange thicket]

it is pretty solid on blitz although weak turret cheeks and cupola.
i dunno how strong is that compared to the PC counterpart

[violet timber]

The cheeks aren’t really a problem, more so just the cupola and lower plate

[analog light]

so the cupolar is acually a weakspot frick

definatly weaker from what ive heard now

[violet timber]

Almost all cupolas are weak spots. There are very few that are troll such as T110E3

[strange thicket]

cupola can be dealt with by hiding it behind walls or hard cover.
which you should naturally be around because you don't want to be in the open with that tank.

[analog light]

i was hopeing it was just as good as pc but at least there is not +2 or arty and a balanced premiumround

[strange thicket]

what is the difference between the blitz ver and the pc ver?

[analog light]

pc has godlike turret armor and only the lower plate as a frontal weakspot while blitz version has the cupolar as a non premium round turret weakspot

or thats what ive heard for now

[strange thicket]

i mean with how pc is i wouldn't find that too unbelievable but i am still hesitant of believing that

maybe it is the absence of a highlight model that makes its turret armor good?

[analog light]

no the turret armor is unpenable from the front with out gold ammo

its a tier 9s armor on a tier 8 tank

[strange thicket]

that is kinda unhealthy to the game
but then again there is arty and the maps are way bigger

[analog light]

and pepole spam premium

pc is just very unfun and unbalacned wich is why i swiched to blitz

[strange fjord]

what? why?

[lunar salmon]

Is the Hetzer line worth unlocking till the end?

[analog light]

there are 2 lines tthat branch form the hetzer

[keen garnet]

The Jagdpanzer E100 is

[lunar salmon]

Nice thanks👍🏽 that's the L6 tank?

[rigid thunder]

if you meant tier 6, it's the jgpz IV

[bronze sphinx]

unpopular opinion : make a limited numberical sticker so we can put it on our tank as a platoon number 😳

[lunar salmon]

Which is the E 100? Like the guy mentioned? ☝🏽
My bad the T10 one

[rigid thunder]

uhhhh, what
The jgpz IV does lead to the tier 10 shitter jgpz e100, yes

[lunar salmon]

Had to scroll across... I was looking at T9 and wondering where's e100

Is the Euro line of tanks worth exploring?

[rigid thunder]

and yes, every single line of the european tech tree has good tanks

[lunar salmon]

Struggling with the Lago tho'...
Polish ones before that were relatively straightforward and good for me .. Lago's been meh

[analog light]

acually i have found that the vks cupolar in blitz is smaller than pc (just unlocked now)

[inland osprey]

What's the optimal upgrade path for the ST-1?
I already have the top turret and second gun (from IS-3)

[rigid thunder]

get the 122mm M62-T2, then tracks, then engine

[inland osprey]

ah okay

Just sold the KV-4, that tank was tough

[plucky rain]

How to play the following:
Medium tanks as in
Tanks with turret armour and not great dpm, such as Type 59
Tanks with no armour but fast and good for flanking attacks, such as Cromwell
Tanks with practically no armour and not great mobility, such as STA 1
And how to play light tanks
Trying to transition playstyles and need tips

[violet timber]

With the mediums, hull down until you get the opportunity to push.

Tank with no armor but are fast, peek above or around ridges until you get the chance to flank.

Tank like the STA-1 need to be second line support or sniping, they will get torn apart if you try to flank or front line.

Light tanks have lots of different play styles so I’d just play around with the tank till you find something you like.

[cinder knot]

What is the weak point of FV215b?from the stat look too perfect isn't?

[brave night]

The upper plate ez pen by pramo and the sides

[wise moth]

It’s pretty slow, the rear mounted turret is awkward to play with, and the hull armor is pretty garbage

[cinder knot]

Is foch a good tank destroyer?

[brave night]

Which tier

[cinder knot]

Last one

[solid gate]

Why the sell out is limited. I would like to sell more today.

[static harness]

The foch 155 is decent
Good armor with weak spots (track, lower plate, cupola)
Good gun (except accuracy)
Good speed
I'd advise to play it 2nd or 3rd line
Or frontline if you are stupid enough (like me)

[solid gate]

Foch is good.

Nah don’t ever frontline in a TD especially one like foch it only works with The E3 it does well at being a second liner

[static harness]

From my experience
Can agree
It doesn't really work
But I, personally, enjoy it

[solid gate]

Enemy needs time for targeting that thin hat and during that time you can fire enemy with your nice gun loading quickly.

[charred vigil]

fv215b literally has no side armor

fv215b armor in general is not very good, its just very troll sometimes with the right angle or position

[static harness]

The turret is decent
But easily beaten by the likes of super conq

[solid gate]

SuperCong is quite rare

[steep marsh]

wait so Fv215B 183 must have Fv215B hull armor

[solid gate]

S conq kinda ehh since it can’t aim well either no^

[solid gate]

Also nah foch is inaccurate and is very much weak to gold it gets eaten alive in frontlines

[coral shuttle]

Should I free exp m103 gun when I get it

[stiff basin]

Yep

[frigid quest]

Foch 155 is powercrept. Awful gun handling, unreliable armor, and bad traverse

[grand bramble]

Will war gaming ever put the centurion mk 5/1 raac in a direct bundle in the store

Just wondering

[nocturne sage]

Doubt it

[manic carbon]

Yeah it’s my least favourite out of the 3. I prefer the Chieftain for the better gun and mobility, which I happily take over some spaced armour on the front

[static harness]

I would really like a armor and gun handling buff of my baby

[glad matrix]

I've seen a video of Meadsys69 on Youtube about WZ120. I bought it to see myself if it's worth it. And really this tank needs a buff on depression. It has only 3. I've no tank in my garage with a so low gun depression. Of all tanks i know i've seen only the vindicator with a such depression. Even on smallest ridges this tank is useless. A depression of 5-6 as all similar tanks as t54, t55a should be welcome.

[solid gate]

I think you need to play it more and the t54 to understand why it shouldn’t have 5 degrees

[static harness]

WZ 120 with 5-6 degrees?
Sign me the duck up
That'll be broken af

[glad matrix]

Perhaps it's better to put the tier 9 gun (with calibrated gun to increase pen that is a little weak otherwise. Meadsy thinks also it need a little buff on depression

[static harness]

The gun depression is the balancing factor for the dpm and gun handling

[glad matrix]

The only way to prevent to be too often shot is to use it as a mobile TD

I prefer they give it a longer reload and increase gun depression

[static harness]

Just use the terrain to artificial increase your gun angles and poof

[glad matrix]

it could perform on flat terrain as in cities but on hilly terrains it's a scrap

[solid gate]

Then it’s just a worse t54

[lyric oriole]

WZ-120 is solid

[glad matrix]

if you can hide the lower plate of front armor OK but generally it"s possible on hilly terrain and there i'm raging because my gun cannot go down

[static harness]

That's why you don't go there/only go where you can put your butt against another hill to get gun depression

[lyric oriole]

Or stick to flat ground

120 makes a solid Heavy support

[glad matrix]

i think i will use a lot of free exp to pass it quickly as wz121 has a better depression

when i go with heavys often other meds call me noob and i don't like to be insulted or report me if i do so

[static harness]

Just ignore them?
Top the score board and laugh at the people calling you noob

[glad matrix]

thanks for advice

but it's sure this tank will not be my favorite one in t9

[static harness]

Honestly
At some point you'll like it
I personally prefer the 120 over the t54
I shouldn't, but that's how it is

[glad matrix]

i play it now in realistic as it is very mobile and can surprise enemies

[lyric oriole]

In the heavy meta it does a little better with trades

[static harness]

Don't ask me

[lyric oriole]

So that's understandable

[static harness]

I honestly don't know why I can't use the t54 effectively

[hollow notch]

I loved the 120 when I was grinding it. It provides a really unique experience. Alpha slapping, great aim, and functional armor, with a wacky constraint to gun depression. Unique tanks keep the game interesting, and it's better than having a t54 clone.

[lyric oriole]

@hollow notch even 90 never

[hollow notch]

Just imagine. It would be pure comedy

[manic carbon]

I have yet to do the Chinese mediums on my main account. I’d probably look at doing them once I finish the Japanese TDs

[lyric oriole]

If they butcher the camo rating like 13 57 yes it would

[hollow notch]

I don't care if it sucked, as long as its tiny and fast.

[lyric oriole]

30 second clip reload

9 shell capacity

[hollow notch]

I would be down, imagine the side hugging capability

[lyric oriole]

SP I C salivates at the thought of being able to win a ramming trade

[hollow notch]

Lol

[static harness]

SP I C can win that against a UE 57

[hollow notch]

You know what would be even better than the even 90?

[lyric oriole]

A SAM turret with tracks?

[hollow notch]

120mm recoilless rifles

[lyric oriole]

Meh

Get me a recoilless Large grain machine gun and then we'll be talking

[hollow notch]

Show up, dump 1600 damage, and have no ammo left for the rest if the game.

[lyric oriole]

*low rolls every shot and dumps 1200 damage

I min rolled in Kranvagn yesterday

That hurt

[solid gate]

Isn’t this just a Gau or Vulcan

[low rampart]

Helsing is a credits machine. Honestly I would prefer every tank received enough credits for a smooth grind, then we wouldn't have to use X or Y paid tank to grind in the game.

[lyric oriole]

No

[solid gate]

my prototype of tank IS'nt

(WIP) = Work In Progres

what do u think about it?

[candid harbor]

are you going to make a physical 3d one or is it going to exist just on the blueprint?

i like the shape of turret and hull, low profile ish
turret may be bit tall

[candid harbor]

and looks bit sus xd

[solid gate]

Whats with people saying the Object 260 is trash/not good enough?

[hollow notch]

It's kinda a worse is8

[candid harbor]

worse?

i thought it was more mobile

[solid gate]

Not really at all, it sidescrapes well and it has an amazing turret

[hollow notch]

Ya, is8 has actual tier 10 pen

[solid gate]

It is very mobile also, and the gun is perfectly made too, amazing dispersion and good gun handling.

[candid harbor]

xd weegee and their weird top speed numbers

[hollow notch]

The 260 has trash heat

[candid harbor]

yea
it is trying to compete with is7 apcr

[hollow notch]

I guess it isn't as trash as the 111 5a heat

[solid gate]

It's not like any of those tanks tho. You can't compare them at all bc they take key parts from most (except frontal armor sadly)

[candid harbor]

260 has quite trash turret

[hard cedar]

wdym the 260 isnt like is8

[solid gate]

Pen is good for how the gun handling is, how aiming time and dispersion make up for it. And I have yet to be penned in the turret lol

[hollow notch]

Is8 is definitely superior tier for tier

[candid harbor]

as per stats i wood say 260 better tier for tier

[solid gate]

260 works better than the is7 and is8, but isn't much to match against the is4.

[hollow notch]

I honestly think I would prefer an is8 vs tier 10s than the 260

Freaking autocorrect completely changing what I want to say

[candid harbor]

is7 better at hulldown

[solid gate]

@candid harbor only blueprint but its not the IS cuz it the IS'nt xdddd

Why, it can even get heshed in the turret. The turret is worse, the armor is useless, even on hills, which the 260 can take advantage of more. And wym it has the same depression

[hollow notch]

What is nice is that the 260 encourages risky ap shells at the turret instead of heat autopens

E5 is the same

[solid gate]

That's the point of the 260, to trick players into firing, it's the same psychotic affect that the T-22 medium does on its sides

[candid harbor]

ah i see
ISn't

[solid gate]

@candid harbor oh finnaly boi who like my cocept xdddd

[solid gate]

It looks pretty good ngl lol

@candid harbor i a will be make one but i am have no PC

@solid gate cuz no

[candid harbor]

models for blitz? or in 3d printables model in cad?

[solid gate]

but wil be have fuly explozive ammo base: HEAT (for nerf) gold (he) for nerf he: he

[solid gate]

Should I get the progetto or the caernarvon?

I think both are good but I’m not sure if I wanna spend a lot of money and get both

[candid harbor]

progetto is more fun to me
it spits damage and Autoreloader are pretty good against enemies, as it is hard to judge how many shells you got

but it got no armour

[hard cedar]

ax is boring you just hulldown

[solid gate]

So I should go for the progetto then? No armor is no problem I just wanna kill tanks and have fun

[candid harbor]

yee

[candid harbor]

progetto is pretty good at that

[solid gate]

Ok thank you for telling me this

When I buy this I do get the 6.2k and 2.2k gold as well yeah?

[hard cedar]

the total amount is the one at the bottom

[candid harbor]

yeah

[solid gate]

What equipment should I get for the progetto 46?

[candid harbor]

go for cali, improved optics, gun laying drive, more hp, engine accelerator and vertical stabilizer

[candid harbor]

this is what i run

[solid gate]

Okay thanks

[hollow notch]

Hmmmmm

[candid harbor]

+1mm armour poooog

and no nine lives camo.... ew

[hollow notch]

Hey now, the prog gets a suprising number of bounces

And I like the no speedboost you got going

[solid gate]

How should I play the progetto I mean what way should I play it?

[candid harbor]

spot, bully meds and flank
don't use hitpoints at start

[hollow notch]

Find a distracted target, and unload the clip until they notice you. Then run when they target you and reload. Rinse and repeat

[solid gate]

Okay but wdym by don’t use hitpoints at start

[candid harbor]

it is the worst consumable
i don't ever use it outside of training rooms

[hollow notch]

Completely agree, but there are some who think otherwise

[candid harbor]

fight from distance
don't take hit
save hp
you will need it later when you will go gun blazing at left over enemies

[solid gate]

Okay thank you

[hollow notch]

Nah m8, all in, cripple a few tanks and exit.

[candid harbor]

xd

[hollow notch]

Except my all in strat is starting to fail now that I am near 5k rating. I have to start playing with a brain it seems

"Like front lining meds near heavies"
That's me ._.

F
Lmao
What are you even doing noob

[candid harbor]

not front lining meds near heavies

that is just plain dumb

[hollow notch]

Nah, prog butters heavies

[candid harbor]

but it got no armour or hitpoints to keep doing same

[hollow notch]

My meatshield does

[candid harbor]

ah i see
na players play like Asian tourney team
too hard to focus ez to kill squishy targets

[hollow notch]

Nah, I just only peek after they unload

[candid harbor]

let's shoot the big fat one over there
instead of this tiny mosquito

[hollow notch]

What are they going to do, yolo into the rest of my team?

If they are loaded, I am cowering behind the nearest 252

[candid harbor]

part can distract your heavies keep them accompanied
while other can break your knee caps

[solid gate]

Holy crap you guys were right this tank is fun af

[candid harbor]

:D

[hollow notch]

The gun is broken, the mobility is basically a light, and it's highly HE resistant

[solid gate]

Bruh how do you penetrate the front of a tiger 2 tho this crap THICC

[candid harbor]

load gold
it is nearly autopen for progetto

or time your push, and break its knee caps from sides

[hollow notch]

Use broken prammo pen

It takes a heavy hit to alpha, but you get to lolpen

[hollow notch]

Nah, just butter the front until it dies.

Cowardly moves like that are for t49s

Speaking of which, I need credits

[candid harbor]

it is more effective
to stab heart than slice guts

[solid gate]

Oh damn ok

[hollow notch]

I really wish I could play my main on the eu server

[solid gate]

Same

[hollow notch]

I wanna toon with hrs

[candid harbor]

me too

[solid gate]

I wish I you could switch servers wish I wasn’t on the Arabian server

Also should I always support my team or rush in the enemy line when I use the progetto

[candid harbor]

i would stick to support until they are soft enough to go in and clear them one by one

[solid gate]

Okay

Also are any of you guys on the Arabian server I haven’t had a platoon met in ages

[hard cedar]

is the arabian server the asia server or

[solid gate]

No the Arabian server is a different thing it’s got a white moon and green background I think

[hard cedar]

i didnt even know there was an arabian server

[thorny smelt]

Please bring back T-150 Q_Q

[solid gate]

Oh yeah it exists and it’s very strange it’s got a small amount of racists and trolls but huge amount of fools

[steel violet]

Seems like new weakness haha

[lyric oriole]

That's existed on M103 and E5 for a long time

[nocturne sage]

Wait we can’t splash the undersides of tanks with the t49

[plucky summit]

Yup

[nocturne sage]

I’m basically a mobile mine planter

[keen garnet]

Wait, you cant ?

[nocturne sage]

I meant can

[keen garnet]

Ah okay

[steel violet]

Oh okay good to know, but why is no one using it?

[thick trout]

Because you have to hit this minute spot there and you might as well wait a second and hit the side armour instead. And splashing underneath is basically the same as splashing onto the turret ring but with the turret ring you have a much larger area to hit, and if you miss you won't land a shell in the dirt in front of the tank doing 0 you'll splash another part of the tank

[analog light]

is it just me or i the tiger 2 a little op i cant seem to pen em any where

[steep sable]

use acpr

happened to me wheni was using is2 red everywhere forgot to buy some of those lol

[iron gulch]

maybe

[lavish epoch]

Haven't played kv1 for years and it feels squishy now than it was. Was it nerfed so bad?

[lyric copper]

pretty sure pen just got better

[thick trout]

It's reload time got like a 2 second nerfband mayyybbee it's side armour as well?
(From my very sketchy memory, probably about 6.x?)

[solid gate]

Inaccuracies and things i hope wargaming will fix in the future

1. Low res model

2.cupola

3.model needs clamps on its tools

4. Where are the torsion bars???

[strange thicket]

It isn't, it is literally just EU server

[solid gate]

Wdym?

[strange thicket]

The Arabian server is not a thing it is just EU.
If you sign into the Arabian server with your EU acc it will work

Even the server names will be the same
EU_C1 is what currently displays when i sign in the arabian and EU one.

[strange thicket]

So did you try entering your acc on EU?

[frigid quest]

arabian server is just a subserver of the eu server so that arabian players can have fun without terrible signal, if wargaming divided arabian from the eu server, the arabian server would not have enough players for the matchmaker to make matches

[plucky summit]

The KV-1 has been destroyed, used to be the skilled heavy of tier 5, angle, trade, win, but now there's no hope for it. The armor stopped working after the nerf, and the gun was turned into ash.

[simple tide]

I guess the BDR G1 B replaced it

[plucky summit]

Yeah, BDR has it's gun, T1 Heavy with the armor profile

[plucky summit]

They're working on mega hot textures for 8.0, and also they try to keep it low so baby phones can hold the game without needing to delete everything else

[simple tide]

Did they buff the armor on the BDR? Half of the time I see that thing I gotta load prammo to go through it.

[plucky summit]

They mega buffed it to T1 heavy levels

[simple tide]

Cant even pen the giant cupola on it

[dry zenith]

Buff kpfpz gun dep✌️

[plucky summit]

The thinnest plate on the front is 72mm

[simple tide]

That explains why I see 3 of them every match

[vast fern]

guys i need some help. I bought a fcm50t but i don't know anything about how to play with fcm50t.

can you give me some advice? :/

[frigid quest]

buying the fcm50 was the first mistake you made

[vast fern]

why man ?e

[plucky summit]

It has no niche, being your normal medium tank brawler

[frigid quest]

no dpm, slow, unreliable armor, typical 90mm single shot tier 8 medium that is nothing but pure garbage

[vast fern]

I like playing with medium tanks the most.

[plucky summit]

T-34-3 would have been a better choice, or better yet, Chimera

[frigid quest]

the garbage 90mm single shot mediums at tier 8 are heavy wannabees that neither can fulfill the role of a heavy or medium, they do not play like mediums

[gentle wasp]

T8 meds are pretty crap as a whole and fcm is mediocre among its peers so...
Prog 46 is in shop now and it’s a much better option.

[vast fern]

I bought grand pack

[hard cedar]

dont call pantera and prog trash :(

[gentle wasp]

“As a whole”

[plucky summit]

Who did?

[frigid quest]

if you want a medium at tier 8, check these criteria. 1. it cannot have a 84-90mm gun. 2. If it does, does it have a auto(re)loader? 3. Is a 59 patton or 5/1 if it does not fit these two criteria.

All tanks outside these criteria are pure garbage, simple. 59 Patton and 5/1 are out because they at least have mobility and armor

[hard cedar]

ok as a whole thats cool i agree

[plucky summit]

Don't bet 59 Patton >:(

[gentle wasp]

Or you can simplify it further by ignoring everything that’s not Rev, Chimera, or Prog

[frigid quest]

the 100mm commies are still decent, they have mobility. Clippers are obviously good, and the 122mms are decent with the T-34-3, Chimera, and even STG

[hard cedar]

stg is good? 🥴

[plucky summit]

STG is too mangled to be effective

[frigid quest]

STG has a punchy gun, good aim time, turret armor, and is mobile, stop listening to meadsy. STG is limited by a terrible gold round and rear mount but its still a decent tank, though not good

[buoyant arch]

Any idea when will the shark or chieftain mk6 coming to store?

[plucky summit]

Oh I don't watch meadsy, never did, I just judged based on armor/turret profile and stats

[wet prism]

@hard cedar not for the current price

[strange thicket]

I mean aren't it kinda like t-34-3 not made for direct combat. And i think it is more mobile than t-34-3 so it works a bit better.

[plucky summit]

I just think the shape and turret mount hurt it a lot

[delicate dock]

very unpopular opinion: i like the fcm

[plucky summit]

That’s actually a fact

An opinion would be to say it’s good

[polar fiber]

Finally someone with an actual brain

[polar fiber]

it wouldnt be an opinion if he says its good. It would be the opinion of a person with -120 IQ

[plucky summit]

Oof

[viral lodge]

What gun is best on the MT-25? (Haven’t played in a while but I remember people debating it)

[polar fiber]

the auto loader gun

[plucky summit]

4 shot 360 burst, the top gun I believe

@polar fiber there's two :p

[viral lodge]

Got it, so the top is best

[polar fiber]

the 57 s-10

[plucky summit]

👌

[viral lodge]

Alright, and should I focus gun or engine upgrades? (Is the T5 single shot workable)

[plucky summit]

In tier 6 it'd be very hard to work with

[viral lodge]

I’ll rush guns then, thanks 👍

[muted frost]

Adding 13 inch gun with 14K alpha damage in tech tree

dont mind that IS-7 with spaced armor his about to get ammo rack though

[plucky summit]

Why ammo rack? You kill on penetration anyways

[muted frost]

ammo rack+50 meter wide crater

really we need event for this land ships

[nocturne sage]

If we’re compare the STG to other tier 8 mediums, yea it’s prammo is bad. But if we compare the gun to other t8 Russian medians, it’s prammo is great. Especially since it’s a 122. The prammo on the 122 on the t44 is 217

[lyric oriole]

16 inch guns don't even do that much Citadel damage in World of Warships

[rigid thunder]

the "ratte" tank concept uses scharnhorst guns, meaning they are only 11 inch (283mm) guns

[muted frost]

its my own version of ratte

[charred vigil]

their gun caliber against tanks would not make a difference, as either way they will 1 shot any tank

[narrow hedge]

Which camo should I use? I cannot decide.

[candid harbor]

you the sell camo from upgrades

it will.give you credits and tank will be invisible

[narrow hedge]

I already have the thing maxed because of T30 and I don't plan on getting the T10.
I'm just trying to figure out what to cvoose

[neat nimbus]

did the devs mentioned that the kunze pnazer was going to be a event prize?

[plucky rain]

Don't think so

[neat nimbus]

i remember during their stream they did i have to check out that

they did at the minute 20:32

also said was skill based event...

[nocturne sage]

Oh good skill based. Better than the rng one we just had

[neat nimbus]

Yeah so I'm looking forward that event and hope there's game modes during it

[open cedar]

I feel the second camo is nice @narrow hedge

[neat nimbus]

I have the action x in uprising or burning games oh boi

We had burning games gravity mode and realistic mode

So I think during a skill based event the newbies will do yolos in a desperate attempt to get the tank

I wonder how the dynamic tracks would looks like in the gravedigger, smasher and the annihilator

[brave night]

i mean skill based could just mean get 1st second thrid class medals

[acoustic ginkgo]

smasher is balanced

[delicate dock]

If a person with -120 IQ can average 3.1k with 64% winrate in tier 10, my teammates with positive IQ should be averaging 7k every game. The case is very opposite

Considering you only average 2.2k in tier 10 with 63% winrate WITH newbie matchmaking...I guess it's fair to say you have an IQ of -250

[polar fiber]

No im saying that the fcm is a shitty tank

[delicate dock]

Tbh I'll say it isnt the best

[polar fiber]

Worst premium tech tree t8 i'd say

[delicate dock]

Sorry if I came off as rude
In that moment I found your message to be insulting me

[buoyant arch]

Anyone have chieftain mk6 here? Is this tank worth waiting or overrated?

[pine moss]

Dont have it but I think it is worth it

[buoyant arch]

Ok m8 👍

[tardy arrow]

I have it. Way overrated. If you must get it don’t spend more than 18k gold for it

[lavish epoch]

question. t95/fv4201 chieftain in pc and chieftain mk6 in mobile are the same?

[low rampart]

Vertical estabilizer on the Amx 50 100 or dispersion?

[neat nimbus]

i really want know how is gonna be the event hope wg isnt harsh this time

[median tree]

No

[frigid quest]

vstabs

[buoyant arch]

I doubt it will release at 18k. Probably 20k gold come with camo..

[solid gate]

Inaccuracies and things i hope wargaming will fix in the future

1. Low res model

2.cupola

3.model needs clamps on its tools

4. Where are the torsion bars???

[pine moss]

ok

[solemn sun]

What's wrong with the cupola?

[plucky summit]

nice repost, nobody cares

[thorny smelt]

It is better to have copula as one of the tank's weak points when other tanks can't shoot the front hull or turret, or won't bother flank and shoot at the sides and back.

The British AT line has the advantage of having a THICK frontal armor but their weak points are the copula and the sides and the back.

[solid gate]

That is not what he’s pointing out and the 131 has terrible armor

[thorny smelt]

That's one exception. Even tier 5 can pen that tank

[trim drift]

Why did WG buff armour in T54 and nerf speed? It’s not a good trade, they just ruined T54

Is there anyway to buff the speed? Even at the expense of the armour

[analog light]

you cuold just buy the engine acelorator

and use the engine power boost

[rigid thunder]

He's pointing out the fact that the Tiger 131 in wotb has the wrong cupola

[analog light]

Wait does the jagdtiger 8,8 have the same armor as the tech tree?

[thick trout]

It's close to having the same armour, the 8.8 has 250/150/120 and the tech tree one has 250/180/120 (casemate/upper plate/lower plate) and the tech tree gets 20mm extra upper side armour

[analog light]

what about the tiger 2

[thick trout]

The hull of the tiger is all 160 so the 8.8s is worse all round

[thorny smelt]

Alright

[wind burrow]

ACTION X or obj 252u ?

[dry relic]

I have 252U
But i prefer action X

[solid gate]

Its suposed to look like at tumor a good tumor that litrally kills the tank cause everybody hits it

[solid gate]

Thanks for the compliment:)

[solemn sun]

?

[dry zenith]

Is7 is a good tank

[solemn sun]

Don't buy is7

[solid gate]

It would rather a historically accurate tank than s better tank

And i love early tigers

[hard cedar]

But there are better historically accurate tanks

[solemn sun]

Early tigers are bad

[solid gate]

Idc they look way nicer

I loved early tigers since 2018 3 years

[solid gate]

How are you? Anyway

[solemn sun]

what

[solid gate]

Idk just asking

Tiger 1 h1 is superior to tiger e

[solid gate]

Bought the Action X ..it is quite much disappointing . Normal tech tree tank or chievtain is equivalent.

[olive ridge]

Trying running it in toons with good hull down positions and try saying that again,......

[hard cedar]

Are you even playing it hulldown

[solid gate]

Yesterday I had it on my opponent open city map. None of my hits went trought face to face tier 8 vs tier 8 open road. Today bought that Action X . It is like sucking bullets . Even tier 7 penetrated it 100 meters away like nothing. Something must be frong on game mechanics. Has they done somekind of adverticement mode for tanks or something.

[hard cedar]

No wonder you think it's bad you're not hiding your hull

[solid gate]

I was hiding hull etc. It was vineyards.

[hard cedar]

Almost no tanks can pen your turret at your tier you almost certainly overexposed

[solid gate]

Yesterday I shot opponents Action X front lower plate and ricochet.Today my tank Action X like paper.

[hard cedar]

How are you hiding your hull, most tanks shouldn't be able to pen your turret

[solid gate]

Actually there is that spot on top of turret where you can pen on Action X

[clear bobcat]

its not very thick

[hard cedar]

Iirc if you use your gun dep you can hide it or smth

[keen basin]

is Type 62 any good if you like lights?

[sinful thorn]

Well it got high pen in the gold shell (250mm) , high hp compared to other lts and high dpm

[keen basin]

Cool thank you

[wise moth]

It's a little slow for a light, topping out at just 60km/h, but the 85mm gun is kinda fun

[lyric copper]

The Action X is one of the best tier 8s you can buy

Sounds like a severe skill issue

[solid gate]

Not about skill. I have done quite some many years this game but all with the bots and stuff in this game has taken the most biggest interest in to this game. Action X sucks it is just having that clow around when you are not having that on your garage but after you get it . It is just target for Wg aimbots.

[lyric copper]

no seriously Action X is literally one of the best tanks for hull down at tier 8

Also, Chieftain T95 is horrible with that massive cupola

[tardy arrow]

Action x is overrated by you tubers sure but in no way is it bad. It’s just below OP

[wise moth]

Action X isn't really meant to be a hull down sort of armor monster.

It's more about the DPM. Kind of like a tier 8 FV215b, but with a center mount turret

[lyric copper]

More like a tier 8 S.Conq with DPM and a worse turret

[gilded hare]

laughs in hulldowning 99% of the time

[drifting shell]

Why not buy is-7

Is it bad?

[earnest mantle]

Its low alpha still holds it back
At least 215b has average alpha for tier

[drifting shell]

I don’t get it

[plucky summit]

The only real reason not to buy it is because it doesn’t belong in competitive tournaments, but if you wanna have a good fight in pubs, play it

[drifting shell]

Is the IS-4 good

[plucky summit]

Yes, though somewhat boring to play

[drifting shell]

Ok

[solid gate]

Just because you’ve been playing for years doesn’t mean you haven’t failed your way up the chain this is the action Xs win rate and player count vs the tech tree version

[drifting shell]

I already have he kv-4

[solid gate]

And what “weegee” aim bots? What company encourages third party software

Just created like reference account. There is like 4-5 bot players in game. You open stats 0 games played and not possible to invite clan

[plucky summit]

Wouldn’t... all tanks’ weaknesses be targets for WG bots?

Mate that’s just the new tutorial

[solid gate]

He doesn’t know you see bots up until tier 5 does he especially on a fresh account....

Then I go to my heavy gaming account. If you stay on spawn four to five stays on spawn. And some games so fast only targeting on my tank if starts moving.

Nothing made sense there

Trie

Why the matchmaker is done so that you literally need to take down whole enemy team to win.

[gentle wasp]

You’re saying you can’t beat the WG aim bots?

[solid gate]

Yes that’s how the game works cap or kill the whole team

[gentle wasp]

Why would you just not let them all jump off castilla smh noob

[thick trout]

What???? Oh god why did noone tell me??? I've been here thinking it was about who could sit in a bush for the longesy

[gentle wasp]

that's a gamemode yes but only for specific maps

[plucky summit]

I thought it was who was using the funniest tank?

I also thought they were chill rooms that people would ALWAYS TROLL 😤

[river garden]

Bruh even though there are bots as long as the bots are stupid i can win

[crude siren]

I don’t get it where are the bots? I can’t seem to find any

[midnight leaf]

@fleet berry

[crude siren]

.-.

[polar fiber]

i got chief mk6 today from a crate. and i hate it

[crystal hare]

Why?

[polar fiber]

I prefer mediums. and everytime i go hull down people just shoot my cupola

and the speed is pretty bad with crap hull armour

[plucky summit]

Imagine thinking you're supposed to always bounce with hull armor

Play it for DPM and decent mobility

[charred vigil]

the thing that makes the chieftain good is the whole package and the gun

[tardy arrow]

No he’s right, chieftain is bad

[midnight leaf]

chieftain has british camo = win

[plucky summit]

Not bad, just normal

[surreal blade]

I personally love it. It's my favourite tier x. The ammorack is a little weaker than normal tanks but it happens very very rarely that I get full health ammoracked

[polar fiber]

i dont

but it practically makes the tank worthless if your being facehugged

[charred vigil]

why are you in the position of a facehug

[polar fiber]

Oh i dont want to be face hugging

[serene oxide]

v

[polar fiber]

an is7 just rams me

[surreal blade]

Yeaaa

Is7 is face hugging god. I run to face hug anyone and everyone. And most of the time, I win

[charred vigil]

is7 not facehugging god

[polar fiber]

yeah but still

[keen garnet]

It is, speaking from experience

[surreal blade]

But I use it to face hug à lot and it works almost every time

[polar fiber]

it sucks because i dont play heavys like the chieftain

[charred vigil]

chieftain is a dam good tank that gun is god seriously

[keen garnet]

If it's a tall heavy like E100, Maus, etc. it's almost impossible for the opponent to get their gun down enough
Other heavies which are at approx. the same height mostly load prammo and go for the area near the gun, in which case, you put ur gun in the middle of their gun

[surreal blade]

Yep I do the same thing. Just put the gun in the middle
LOL. The best part is face hugging e100s. I do it a lot with my friend. He face hugs me in his E100. Then he can't pen me. There is a small part between the hull and turret of E100 which can be penned. I kill him by shooting at that

[polar fiber]

i love the gun dont get me wrong, its just that i hate how the cupola is so weak and the sides

[charred vigil]

just sit on a ridge, don't sit infront of opponent for too long, always wiggle simple stuff. The Turret is pennable buts weirdly strong and weak at the same time

[plucky summit]

@polar fiber just keep your distance and keep your DPM in play

[polar fiber]

well i know the tank is good

im not good at using it tho ig

[charred vigil]

Well I only bought chieftain because it looked good

[plucky summit]

I got it when I was throwing for AMX M4 mle 54

[tardy arrow]

The tank is mediocre

[waxen wagon]

Hi

[keen garnet]

Hello

[waxen wagon]

Can you guys subscribe to my channel?

[solemn sun]

Bruh

[opaque wyvern]

no

[vague oar]

Can anyone pls give a nice overlay on to how to play the Centurion 7/1.

[solid gate]

Watch HisRoyalFatness' video on fv4202, they're very similar.

[cinder knot]

Is B-C 25 t worth to grind?

[keen garnet]

For some it is
For me personally I would say yes and no
It's not a easy tank to play due to not much flexibility but it can work wonders in the later stages of the game

[cinder knot]

Is it good for scouting?

[candid harbor]

it is
but main issue with that tank is extreme lack of flexibility

[cinder knot]

Who is the best for scouting?

[keen garnet]

Vickers Light

[candid harbor]

^