vehicles-discussion

[fast compass]

It's treason

[hard cedar]

It's like the 183 for me, fun if you hit your shots but gun handling is 😬

[iron nexus]

me playing the AMX 120 seeing 183 be like

[plucky rain]

Coffin dance sounds

Is it just me or I find KV 4's top gun underwhelming, 320 dmg gun

[distant nymph]

I think it's one of the best performing guns in terms of gun handling among tier 8 heavies but not sure

[modest ocean]

Which gun to research first?

[stiff basin]

Should I enrich the T49 this weekend? I'm thinking of it because I like this tank so much and earning some credits with it would be really nice. But on the other hand, 7,750 gold for enrich? is it worth it? Also, I know that Uprising will come, and it's my favourite tank for this mode, and I want to grind huge amounts of credits

[stiff basin]

The one below, you don't want to rush grille 15

[thorny smelt]

Is KV-3 worth it than IS?

[neat nimbus]

where's your god WG?

[modest ocean]

Aight ty

[neat nimbus]

likely wg will patch :/ #nobuffthesmasher

[thorny smelt]

I'm asking guys. Is KV-3 worth it than IS?

[junior mountain]

Scheiße, my tab screen is unresponsive, how to fix this

E

[stiff basin]

Any thoughts?

@thorny smelt Both are average

[thorny smelt]

KV-3 has better armory than IS though

[solid gate]

Get the top 15cm gun. While 12.8cm seems more reliable, 640 alpha is more intimidating than 460 and either way you gotta make your shot count so get the big boi. It'll feel like God helped you after you get it.

[stiff basin]

And IS is more mobile

[solid gate]

While I didn't get KV-3, I know it's horribly slow (unless all people I'v encountered used stock engine and tracks lol)

[thorny smelt]

I'll give it a try once I play my KV-1S again. It is almost fully upgraded except for the gun

[valid cedar]

am I right to say that the t8 and t9 Ho ri have similar, but quite low accuracy? I'm playing the t8 rn and the aiming time feels annoying

[junior mountain]

Halp edit: wait i thought i post this on general discussion

Sorry

[thorny smelt]

Well...I suffered with KV-2 so I won't get that KV-3 then

[stiff basin]

KV-2 is way different

[solid gate]

It's suggested that you grind IS-7 first to make IS-4 grind easier

[stiff basin]

you can do it the other way also

[thorny smelt]

I'm currently have mostly Tier 5 and 6. Only 2 Tier 7 tank are available in my garage

[manic carbon]

@stiff basin You can, but the IS-4 line is more painful to go through first time than IS-7 line first time

[pine moss]

actually so sad, I was so looking forward to getting a rare tier 10 tank but obj 260 way too expensive

[merry wind]

I was super lucky with obj260 but omg

[junior mountain]

Should i use stock Kv2 gun or Upper kv2 gun

[keen garnet]

Upper gun, Stock gun on the KV-2 is trash

[merry wind]

obj260 is just garbage. Gun is okay, nothing special just ok. Mobility is actually good. But armor, omg, this is a tier 8 armor at tier 10. I mean wtf. You can actually get penned by HE from the front. It bounces nothing. WTF WG

[stiff basin]

How have you got penned by HE lol? What tank penned you?

[keen garnet]

There is no way you got penned by HE from the front

[merry wind]

chieftain mk6

[stiff basin]

Well, it has great HE pen, it's a british tank

[keen garnet]

It's HE pen is 121 with CS, there is no part of your front that has that low armor
Unless you are on a ridgeline and it goes UP your lower plate

[merry wind]

yeah, i know. But i expected it to bounce something. It bounced nothing

[stiff basin]

where did they shoot?

[violet timber]

This is legit the best gun ever on a Russian heavy, it is incredibly special compared to what it competes with

[junior mountain]

Why

[stiff basin]

Because it's stock

[junior mountain]

Lul, i saw many people use it and they’re doing great tho

[stiff basin]

Which gun do you mean?

[junior mountain]

The stock

[stiff basin]

450 alpha gun?

[junior mountain]

Idk i dont remember, i sold my kv 1 month ago, and im just asking because i want to buy it again

[stiff basin]

Anyway, the long gun isn't the stock one

[junior mountain]

Yes

[quartz socket]

check out my YouTube channel guys, sub if u like the content

[junior mountain]

you picked the wrong channel, fool!

[solid gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/801151895455399957/840203971859054602/Screenshot_20210507-152927_World_of_Tanks.jpg
finally got my first rank 9
:D

[manic carbon]

Congrats

[spring dock]

When will 907 be sold?

[midnight leaf]

gg on rank 9

[solid gate]

got in one game
it was realistic
and i suffered
now i play t7 only

[thick trout]

@solid gate pls don't play it with 50% crew...

[solid gate]

why

[thick trout]

Because it will be absolutely terrible for you and anyone else on your team especially since you are playing it stock with no equipment or provisions or prammo from the looks of it...

[thorny smelt]

If in World of Tanks Blitz, BDR G1 B is the "steel potato", in World of Tanks is an ALUMINUM POTATO to me! So hecking FRAGILE!

[brave night]

Ok

[thorny smelt]

You'll see what I mean

[hollow notch]

@static harness it's not really that difficult

[static harness]

That 1mm line? Sorry but no
I would rather take my chances with the cupola

[hollow notch]

I don't see any 1mm lines.
I see more than half of the side as penetrable

[keen garnet]

Tracks will just absorb the HEAT round

[static harness]

You do know that there are track wheels in between those, right?
With scuffed hitboxes?
I'm sorry but I made that mistake too much

[hollow notch]

You want to know why I put the is3 in at an angle? To show that when flat on, the tracks don't make a difference

[static harness]

Also don't explain me how heat/the t49 works
2k games and 61% wr are enough for me there

[low rampart]

An aggressive IS-3 gives me nightmares, or wet dreams, depending on the mood.

[static harness]

Russian side armor is too troll to reliable pen with heat

[hollow notch]

Considering you think its better to shoot HE at the side of an is3, I think you do need the explanation

[static harness]

When did I say that?
I carry like 3 he shells

The only thing I did is compare the 90mm AP to the 152mm he because heat won't work

[hollow notch]

let me see

Oh yea,

[static harness]

Like I said

[hollow notch]

I'm sorry, but 560=/= 200

And heat does work

God forbid I dump a 700 into the rear

[static harness]

Understand my reasoning
Heat will most likely not pen
And doing 200-400 is way better than 0
And even if I would get lucky and pen 50% out of my heats
He spam would still be more efficient there
I would just search another target but w.e

[hollow notch]

most likely not pen have you tried aiming?

I see a hell of a lot of green there.

[static harness]

As I said
The track area is a no go in an actual battle
Track wheels, ever heard of veteran?

[hollow notch]

Here we see the tracks effecting the pen, because the heat shell does not have enough pen to go through the angled side armor+ the tracks. In the other one, because the sides are not angled, the heat shells have enough pen to rip through the spaced armor and side armor.

It does pen

[static harness]

Rest are tracks/track wheels
I won't kiss my rng and aim for the 4 spots
Sorry but no

[hollow notch]

Your loss of damage, not mine.
Don't take advice, ok

[static harness]

Wow
A full 560 dmg that has a 50% chance of hitting?
God forbid me if I shoot something else and then kill the harder target last

[hollow notch]

I'm just trying to help you out, but if you think I'm trying to sabotage you for some reason, that's not my problem.

[static harness]

M8
Listen
I had enough shots in these 2k battles with my t49 at sides of IS classes/IS knockoffs
Especially here, I won't pray to RNGjesus with my god horrible RNG to hit either of these 4 spots
And instead just ignore him cuz it's an is3

[hard cedar]

Or you could aim at his rear

[tardy arrow]

Ye that’s not gonna pen, unless you’re shotgunning it

[keen garnet]

The problem is HEAT at an IS-3 sides is most likely going to go either into the tracks, or in the spaced armor above them
The chances of missing the tracks and going straight thru to the main armor are slim

[hard cedar]

Hey Demi what happened to the one shot guy yesterday

[hollow notch]

So what it hits the tracks. As long as you hit them flat on the side, it's not gonna matter

[tardy arrow]

💀

[static harness]

Do you know how heat works?
Also a full 90° angle is literally impossible in a normal battle

[keen garnet]

Banned lol

@hollow notch The HEAT shell is gonna lose penetration when it hits the tracks

[hard cedar]

oh 💀

[tardy arrow]

@hard cedar do u still need help with ratings, saw ur losing streak yesterday

[hard cedar]

If you have tips I'll take them

[hollow notch]

Yes. And it does not lose enough pen to make it fail to pen. As long as you hit it flat on the side.

[tardy arrow]

If u have any replays send them so I can see what you’re doing. Otherwise you can just play meta tanks like annihilator, Emil 1, waffle, kran, e5 and that’s much easier

[keen garnet]

But that is nearly impossible in a practical battle situation
IF you do have time to aim all of that, you can surely have time to get behind him and shoot him in the rear instead

HE will be a much more reliable way of dealing damage

[hard cedar]

alri I'll send you some in a bit, thanks

[hollow notch]

Looking at the lower half of the hull of a tank does not take any more time than aiming at the tank overall. I'm still gonna shotgun. 560 damage is better than 300 damage. If its gonna not pen, that's because rng either made it hit the upper side or miss completely, at which point the HE doesn't do much either. I like my chances

[tardy arrow]

The point of t49 is to have fun, not do consistent damage tbf. It’s basically a 183. So yes, I’d rather take my chances than do consistent damage of 200-300. It’s not like you’re driving a t49 to be competitive

[hollow notch]

The way that the t49 can cripple tanks makes it very competitive

[tardy arrow]

It’s not at all. Otherwise the 183 would be competitive, but it’s the worst t10

[plucky summit]

T49 has mobility though

[hollow notch]

The 183 is trash other than alpha. The t49 is not.

[tardy arrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/502017295107883008/832557000033435668/7.8_-_t08.png
You can clearly see t49 lacking behind the other t8 lights

[hollow notch]

poor mediums

And I honestly am confused/concerned that the amx1390 somehow is higher than the 49

And you are actually comparing the preformance of these tanks

[tardy arrow]

Yes, I can see that t49 is better tier for tier, but that doesn’t make it competitive compared to a 301 or ltwt

[static harness]

AMX 13 90 got a great buff some time ago
That thing is pretty damn good now

[hollow notch]

It still has crippling elevation

I mean bruh...
Hit a tiny piece of gravel and you are looking at the ground

[static harness]

Bad gun traverse angles and low pen is basically everything bad about this thing rn
And no armor of course

[low rampart]

Didn't know Maus performed this good, perhaps the difficulty keeps only good players using it.

[plucky summit]

The braindead HP pool

[thick trout]

It's really not hard to use 3k hp attached to that much armour lol

[lyric copper]

how to play maus:

remove brain

go toward red shapes on map

shoot grey part of red tank

[solid gate]

Should I get the Lorraine and T-54 or those historical WW2 tanks

[lyric copper]

Lorraine quite nice

[valid cedar]

what is the IS-2 (1945) like, in terms of armour, gun and playstyle? i may get it in this tactical airdrop event

[kindred thorn]

literally the fully upgraded tech tree IS but stock engine and better armor
Since they added more of a pikenose style armor at the front

so trading speed for armor

[valid cedar]

whats special about a pikenose turret and hull?

[shell forum]

Pre-angled so you are more likely to get bounces just by wiggling, but a PIA if you need to angle up and show the "flat side" of the nose

[kindred thorn]

harder for people to pen your upper plate
turrets are very similar though

[valid cedar]

whats PIA?

[plucky summit]

Why do you keep asking obvious matchups 😐

[valid cedar]

ah, how do you play the IS/IS-2 (1945) then? tbh i never rly looked into how i should play the IS/IS-2 properly, i just assumed sidescraping was best

[shell forum]

Pain In (the) A[censored}

[solid gate]

u dont
sell it

[violet timber]

Side scraping is pretty good, just make sure to hide you cupola, with with the wall of your gun

[kindred thorn]

You can also follow a heavium playstyle with it sometimes

[valid cedar]

i see, ty!
@kindred thorn how do heaviums play like?

[hollow notch]

Basically go to where the mediums/lights usually fight and crush them.

[valid cedar]

basically just like normal meds right

[gentle wasp]

A chunky one
(HP go brrr)

[manic carbon]

@valid cedar You can play where your generic heavies usually wouldn’t be, such as going with your meds as support is a good example.
But just be prepared to be berated. Unfortunately teammates will usually like to think heavy = heavy route etc. I played my FV215b this morning, got berated by an E5 for not going the generic heavy route and frontlining against Maus/E-100 for example

[solid gate]

how can u get the grizzly?

[valid cedar]

I do sometimes take the non-ht route since from experience i learnt that if the whole team goes there but the enemy splits like usual we have a higher chance to win, esp if its the hts who end up away from us and are forced to slowly go to us
This is talking abt the IS-2 right?

[manic carbon]

I was just talking generically about heaviums, I didn’t scroll up that far lol

[valid cedar]

ah i see, ty
what are examples of t10 heaviums?

[frigid quest]

IS-7, T95E6, WZ-113, Cheiftain, FV215b

[valid cedar]

wait is7 is a heavium?

[brave night]

is7 isnt

[plucky summit]

IS-7 is indeed a heavium, but not one of par speed, the top speed is 50 but it almost never reaches that speed

[hollow notch]

Is7 is a medium hunter, which is the same role at most heaviums.

[valid cedar]

speaking of the IS-7, how should I play the IS-3? I forgot I have it in my garage rn

[hollow notch]

Hide hull -> profit

[plucky summit]

If you wanna go up the line, yes, if you want to play a good tank, no

[valid cedar]

is sidescraping good on the is3?

[brave night]

nr

[pastel imp]

DN best tank

[hollow notch]

Not really because you have to show the front of the hull a bit

[plucky summit]

It's a great reverse sidescraper tho, if applicable in any situation

T-2020's hull stands up to guns with 210mm of pen or less

You know, I'm so interested on the first ammo loadout in the game to be APCR/AP/HE from LT-432, afaik

[hollow notch]

Skill round remnants from pc

2 matches in the m48 and I have already been set on fire twice. Outstanding.

[valid cedar]

why do people say the m48 patton is one of the worst if not the worst t10 tanks tho?

[plucky summit]

It has nothing special tbh

[frigid quest]

m48 is a good hulldown tank but the mobility is about the same as heaviums and the gun is...average, not bad but not stellar

[brave night]

50 top speed for m48?

[frigid quest]

48

[brave night]

y dont we buff it to 50

[hollow notch]

Pointless buff

[simple tide]

RU 251 should get to its top speed faster

Apart from the HE I don’t see another reason to use it over other T8 lights

[hard cedar]

the he seems to be a fairly good reason to use the tank

[plucky summit]

Yes, buff the fastest top speed in the game instead of a non-overkill, vital aspect elsewhere 😐

[frigid quest]

view range and dpm

[solid gate]

wich is better for credits the rudy or victory?

[frigid quest]

the victory in terms of credit coefficient but the rudy is a better tank tier for tier

[solid gate]

I think i will get the victory then caus i really like the camo and soon i will have the is2. Thx btw

[plucky summit]

Smasher

[fair iron]

Best tank destroyer with a turret?

[keen garnet]

Possibly the Helsing

[fair iron]

Tier ten

[plucky summit]

FV4005

[fair iron]

Show an image plz

[keen garnet]

There are three TX TDs with turret
FV215b 183
FV 4005
T110E4
Grille 15

Best among these is 4k5

[fair iron]

Of all

[fair iron]

Is the 4k5 the third one?

[keen garnet]

All of these have a semi-traversible turret though
E4 and 4005 have 90 degree limit to each side

Grille 15 and 183 have I think 35 to each side

[keen garnet]

No offense but it is literally written there
Ah sry you didn't understand the 4k5

Yes 4k5 = FV 4005

[plucky summit]

45/45 for 183, 50/50 for Grille

[fair iron]

Rate them from best to worst

[plucky summit]

FV4005
Grille 15
T110E4
FV215b 183

[fair iron]

Why is the 183 bad?

[plucky summit]

Imo it's fine, but in general it's extremely team dependent and RNG-based

[fair iron]

Mmmmm

So should I stop grinding for it

[keen garnet]

Probably

[fair iron]

Would any of it's ancestors be good

[plucky summit]

Unless you're good at positioning, and aiming with different shell types

Only AT15 is good

[fair iron]

Best tank destroyers with turret tier 9

[plucky summit]

WT auf. Pz. IV

[fair iron]

That's it?

[plucky summit]

It's just the best

[fair iron]

Mm I can one shot ram the WT with the t30 I just need to hit it right. Or one shot if he doesn't extinguish the fire

[keen garnet]

Not with the new spall liner

[fair iron]

The what

[keen garnet]

Spall liner, it's a provision
Reduces damage from HE shells by 20% if it's equipped

[fair iron]

That's broken

[keen garnet]

Uh no it isn't lol
It's just reducing the effect HE spam that the tanks that received it are subjected to

[fair iron]

That's 120 less damage from 600 top damage he shell tanks

That is a lot

Btw the week spot is shooting bettween the turret and tank

[plucky summit]

It's a lot but they lose stats

[merry wind]

is obj260 the worst tier X heavy?

[solid gate]

VK 72 01 K?

Or fv 215 b

I would choose obj 260 to IS7

[rigid thunder]

All the tier 10 heavies are strong, though if I'd pick a weaker one it'd be the 5A

[solid gate]

but IS 4 is better

But 5A is pretty fast and it has a good turret armor

[plucky summit]

And cupolas

[rigid thunder]

which is why I said, they're all strong. The 5A is pretty much an IS-7 that loses armour, while it trades for slightly better mobility and HEAT rounds. Trading the flexibility of an IS-7 for the potential to use 336 heat with cs isn't a good tradeoff imo.

If you compare every other tier 10 ht to an IS-4, they'll all look pretty bad tbh. Tanks you've mentioned like the 7201k and 215b have their merits, with the 7201k having a strong hull and high alpha, while the 215b is a heavium with a great gun

[plucky summit]

333 HEAT*

I think 318 APCR pen is better than 333 HEAT

[rigid thunder]

oh yeah oops

[plucky summit]

Either way neither need a buff ;)

[solid gate]

all of them ara pretty balanced

[formal imp]

Is is6 worth it?

[calm inlet]

uh, probably not for the average player

[iron galleon]

Is it good to grind the M-6-YOH line when it comes out, now that it is nerfed?

[stiff basin]

It's still unique, i'll try to grind it because of the burst + intraclip

Also it has 2 guns so it will be like 2 different tier 10s in one

[plucky rain]

Which one is better for tournament, Ho Ri or 268?

[stiff basin]

You mainly don't play tournaments in TDs, but i'd choose Ho-Ri

[violet nexus]

Hmph

[solid gate]

1st image: IS5 vs Maus
2nd image: Obj 260 vs Maus
Proof that it is not OP at all
(for the people that said its OP)

[steep galleon]

Who knew a t-34-100 could ammo rack a su 152 with heat lol

[strange thicket]

nobody actually said it is op

[solid gate]

i got dms of people actually saying its op so i sent this

[frigid quest]

what do you expect pub players in asia are terrible

[solid gate]

i agree

[valid cedar]

I mean thats assuming the maus doesnt angle or wiggle at all, which people who actually know how to maus do wont at all
Maus is all about angling amyway, especially due to the flat armour, so its thickness in battle is much better than those images look

[lyric copper]

it’s meh at best really

[solid gate]

im not talking about the maus here, what im talking about is the maus shooting those 2 tanks frontally

[candid harbor]

have you finished e100 line?
it is pretty easy and rewarding line

[valid cedar]

Oh i see, i wasnt paying attention so i didnt realise those tanks dont look like a maus in the slightest lmao

[solid gate]

to be fair those 2 tanks does not resemble any near the maus at all

[sharp arrow]

How much does kv 5 cost? (In gold)

[sharp arrow]

True, maus is like 2x as tall and would shoot down at it, making it a lot weaker

[hard cedar]

You won't know until it comes back into the shop

[brave night]

Same as above but it usually comes 5.5k ish

[sharp arrow]

Right, I thought so

[brave night]

Ok

[solid gate]

How to t95?

[brave night]

Camp

[keen garnet]

FXP the T110E3, sell the T95
Ez

[solid gate]

I don't have enough fxp.

But I have enough to research everything on the t95.

[valid cedar]

Isnt the t95 good? Rly nice alpha and armour

[hard cedar]

speed

[sharp arrow]

It’s good at front lines, use some depression and your bound to win (in tier 8 battles)

[latent meteor]

T95 nice tank. Drive to front, shoot, wiggle, repeat.
It's a good tank

[stiff basin]

but it's slow

[hollow notch]

Good things about the t95: the gun and camo
Bad things about the t95: everything else

[manic carbon]

@solid gate best advice I can give is to always aim to stay around teammates where possible, and or stay near solid cover or natural barriers you can use to prevent someone from circling you. A T95 is pretty vulnerable by itself

@valid cedar It’s a situational tank. Given the right situation, it can do well, but more often than not the mobility will be a significant hinderance. It’s hard to react to changing circumstances of a battle, relocate etc. At least now it has a special speed boost to help it a little bit, but it will still be an issue

[valid cedar]

fair enough

[solid gate]

Thanks.

[valid cedar]

Wait does the IS-2 (1945) prem tank have good side armour for sidescraping or not?

[frigid quest]

it does

[valid cedar]

I felt it did since i found sidescraping rly effective on it, but on blitz hangar why do the sides look so weak?

[hard cedar]

cuz it's not angled on hangar I think

[brave night]

they arent angled correctly

[valid cedar]

ah

[dense trout]

will annihilator ever return?

[hollow notch]

The shoulder really hurts the sidescraping ability

[distant nymph]

IS has never been about armor, it works thanks to its beautiful gun

[spare cairn]

yesss that beautiful accuracy and aim time

[solid gate]

You can reverse sidescrape right?

[plucky summit]

You can, very well, especially over your back left since the cupola is hidden

[calm inlet]

reverse sidescraping is extremely unpractical in 99% of situations

takes a long time to set up and then get out of, so that you might bounce a shot or two. just reposition

the only tank that actually pulls it off is the T-22 medium, because it takes almost no time at all to set up

[kindred wren]

Yup, reverse sidescrape is only practical if people come up behind you

[lyric oriole]

VK 168 benefits from it on certain maps but aside from that and T22 you won't catch me reverse side scraping in anything else

[strange fjord]

just view 3d model, its 90mm of armor but the front makes you unable to sidescrape

[plucky summit]

For T-22 medium?

Which tank? Oh

[strange fjord]

Nope

For IS-2 1945

It seems to be a tank for agressive playstyle. Armor isnt enough to trust it but its not paper. Plus 210mm of frontal armor in tier 7

[plucky summit]

It'd be a pretty good sidescraper if it wasn't for tanks having usually more than 145mm of pen

Rip turret cheeks

[strange fjord]

Its the fastest tier 7 heavy tank except its maximum speed limits it

[plucky summit]

I mean, it limits every tank ._.

[strange fjord]

For is-2 1945 it does even more. Higher weight to hp ratio than every other heavy in t7 but only 34 of max speed

[plucky summit]

Fun fact, the VK 36.01 H has the highest top speed of all heavies in the game

[strange fjord]

Fun fact, Maus has higher effective power/weight ratio than Löwe. If Löwe can make 35 km/h, imagine Maus with that top speed.

[thorny smelt]

I think no one really utilizes the top of speed of a heavy tank unless you want to ram the heck of other tanks.

[strange fjord]

its more about acceleration and traverse speed than top speed unless youre not escaping/changing your entire position or trying to catch a light tank, basically a Kranvagn can be more mobile than other tanks in some situations due to its consumable

[plucky rain]

You sure not IS 7?

[strange fjord]

Vk 36.01 has 50.5, it beats IS-7 with 0.5 km/h of top speed

[kindred thorn]

now why would such a slow tank have that

[strange fjord]

it doesnt even matter, its basically a hidden stat that makes no effect

[plucky summit]

It never really gets up to that speed anyways

[plucky summit]

IS-7 ties with 50 B anyways

[strange fjord]

oddly enough wz 113 is faster than 50b since it has better effective power/weight ratio and same top speed

[valid cedar]

omg i dont believe it
im actually starting to like the Chi-Ri a lot now

[past crane]

Any tips for the E 75? Currently struggling in it a bit atm.

[plucky rain]

The child of an E 100 and a Tiger 2

[past crane]

Yeah, it's slow but also fast.

Just need some tips on how to use it.

[spice garnet]

i have a question: why is some of german tank are so pricey lately? Is it just for me or is it happened to you all also? See the credit/Gold/XP price i red-cirle-marked on the attachment pic

[kindred thorn]

higher tier tanks cost more

[plucky rain]

Wait till you need 6 000 000 silver just to buy a tier 10

[kindred thorn]

400k to 800k to 1 mil to 2 mil to 3 mil to 6 mil

[hard cedar]

its 3.4m or smth

also the prices are cheaper than what they usually would be due to the special event weekend thing lol

[spice garnet]

Yea i knew that, but No, you dont get it what i mean. I take 1 example: VK 28.01 (level VI) was priced 708k of XP waaaaaay more higher that Leopard level X whixh is only for 270k?? it doesn't make any sense

[kindred thorn]

leopard is a t5
the one you are talking about
leopard at t10 costs 6.1 mil

[spice garnet]

you still dont get it do you?

[kindred thorn]

Leopard vk 16 is a lower tier tank, so it costs less credits
and t5 gets much better credit discounts than t6

[spice garnet]

look at the highest leopard level price on the right side

[kindred thorn]

You are talking about two different currencies
you can earn like 100k credits in a battle but like 1.5k xp

[hard cedar]

Leopard 1 costs 270k XP. Vk 28.01 costs 700k credits

[kindred thorn]

vk 16 leopard is like 10.5 xp
leopard 1 is 270k xp

[spice garnet]

no, you just take a good look on VK 28.01 versus Leopard. How come a (level VI) price higher than 1 (level X)

[hard cedar]

Xp and credits are different things

[kindred thorn]

One is credits, the other is XP
Two different currencies
for two different things

[spice garnet]

aah.. ok

it mean i have already research the VK 28.01 right? and if i have to buy, i need 708k of credit... is that what it mean?

[kindred thorn]

yes
credits are pretty easy to get though

[hard cedar]

@spice garnet

[spice garnet]

ok. Now it make sense to me 😅 . Thanks for your explanation!

Thank you for your explanation @kindred thorn and @hard cedar 🙂

[hard cedar]

Np

[grand bramble]

The object 260 is crazy good

[plucky summit]

Note the discount too

[thorny smelt]

I'm trying Challenger lately but I guess it is quite fragile like any other tank destoyers

[kindred thorn]

that entire line has like 0 armor
except maybe on the turret on odd tier tanks

Cause of gun mantlet
But otherwise you literally have 0 armor

[plucky summit]

Just the Conway

Also for some reason Challenger has 200mm of turret ring armor

[onyx sluice]

Wargaming should add the Batchat 155 58.

[rapid steeple]

When !!! Will be new czech premium tank???

[plucky rain]

In ur dreams

[rapid steeple]

...

[hollow moth]

Czech tanks are cool, Their gameplay looks like Strv 74A2, right? Never played those, but I know how dangerous a good clipper can be if you don't pay attention

[median tree]

just wait

[loud gyro]

found actual name

The Grosstraktor's actual name sorry but as a german fanatic for their tanks, wanted to give its full name since the name already is shortened

[spare solar]

What if we could use a machine gun like war thunder

[hollow moth]

It wouldn't make much difference, that MG on the back isn't 360 degrees and Groß armor is pretty useless to block shots, but useful to activate HEAT and explosive fillers (explosive filler is inexistent in WOTb anyways so... Groß would be just a Neubafazeugh or whatever it's called in WT)

Once you play War Thunder, you learn how useless a light MG is and how op a .50 can be, better just ignore the MG idea

[solid gate]

I think he’s talking about MGs in general also I apologize for getting a bit aggressive

[hollow moth]

No problem, I don't take discord argues personally @solid gate

Hm, I kinda have to say the same, idk I went agressive in a hot moment of the argue, but sorry anyways

I just didn't notice

[blazing bloom]

@spice garnet sorry for the ping but heres a list of tank prices from tier 4 to 10 (from memory)
tier 4: ~80k
tier 5: ~400k
tier 6: ~900k
tier 7: ~1.3m
tier 8: ~1.8m
tier 9: ~3m
tier 10: ~6m
these prices are without discounts and/or clan supply discounts

correct me if im wrong on some of the prices

[upper flint]

When will 121b be on sale again?

[solid gate]

When weegee selling tier 10 for gold again?

[spice garnet]

yea.. .i misunderstood the unit.. lol

[blazing bloom]

hope that helps lol

[spice garnet]

all clear now, thanks!

[ocean lantern]

What Chinese line should I go up?

[lyric copper]

simple tip: do not let an IS-7 get close

mid-close range is the environment an E75 loves

[ocean lantern]

It’s a bit of a harsher angle than the Tiger 2. Side scrape lots, but bear in mind you have a weak lower plate, so if you can, try and conceal that under a bump

[lyric copper]

WZ-113 and 121, never go the TD line, watch out for the WZ-120 with its -3° with top gun

[ocean lantern]

Oh ok. That’s awful. I might go up the heavy line instead in that case

[blazing bloom]

i say the 113 is worth it, it has better dpm than the object 260 according to blitzpost, mobility is nice but the traverse lacks

[hollow moth]

When playing with 113, always remember: you can't get circled if all the enemies are dead

[spare solar]

In general xd

[topaz crater]

Emill 1 what a hell this Is a beast the armor is for Tiger II With 10,5 imposible to penetrate

[thick trout]

Plenty of green (with CS on flat, without but with prammo using gun depression)

[vague oar]

Can anyone help with how to play the Centurion Mark 1.

[stiff basin]

Just don't play it, it's bad

[thick trout]

It's actually not awful just tricky to play. It's a hulldown tank but you need to be using gun depression to bounce anything because the turret forehead relies on angles to bounce. It's mobility isn't great but it's good enough to get to positions just don't expect to spot with it. It's gun handling is really nice so don't be afraid to snapshot and make sure you aim for drive wheels as often as you can. It doesn't have alpha or dpm on its side so don't get into a trade or a brawl but keep second line and annoying people with your snapshots. You also have a huge hull that you'll need to hide as well so positioning is key. It's a pretty average tank competing against a lot of op tanks but it can perform well enough

[earnest mantle]

Its alpha let's it down though
It's not worse than the sta but it's not a good tank, it gets all the bad attributes of the cent 7/1 without the hesh

[thick trout]

Yeah it's alpha definitely let's it down but that's like almost every single shot medium at tier 8, and sometimes it's actually good to have such small alpha because people see 1-- incoming damage and ignore it so you can farm them a little easier.

I think every single 90mm or lower medium at tier 8 needs a buff from 225->240 alpha or 190->210 for the cent for example. They are pretty outclassed by the heavy spam atm with armour, alpha, dpm, pen and hp and not that much less mobility so keeping the reloads the same (about a 6% dpm buff) would help to balance it a lot.

[plucky rain]

@thick trout do you agree that Centurion tanks in blitz have a big hole on their turret?

See? The turret has a big 130mm weakspot for 7/1

Centurion 7/1 has practically the same turret as Centurion 1, so even playing hulldown can be hard

Buff that hole on that turret already, even using full 10° gun depression doesn't close off that big hole

[violet timber]

From what I remember the 10 degrees of gun depression makes it an auto bounce angle

[vague oar]

Thx

[vague oar]

Can you tell me about possitionating in maps too cuz I already do hull down only prob is map positioning and bad teammates.

[gentle wasp]

Well the first problem is blaming your teammates. Positioning is almost entirely up to you and if your teammates are the problem then you are clearly positioning wrong.

[gentle comet]

No, wot blitz is a game where you are extremely team dependent. You could do 5K damage and get an ace tanker, still lose if you have 3- 4 team members who do zero damage (which happened a lot of times )

Having bad luck with team members can also ruin your winrate because there’s nothing you can do about it. Maybe blitz should develop a system where they can match you against equal opponents ( if your team has players with 300 average damage) your enemies should be like that too.

That’s why winrate is meaningless. It’s rather average damage and xp that shows if you’re doing work or not. Getting carried most of the time and having good luck don’t make you a good player just because ur winrate is above 50%

[plucky summit]

Sorry, I like destroying arguments

[hard cedar]

Woops

[gentle comet]

That’s something that happens maybe once or twice. Not every day. So considering you kept that screenshot on your phone for 3 years, you didn’t destroy shit

[plucky summit]

You got me, it was October 5th, 2020

[gentle comet]

Yeah, there you go. You probably even framed it and hung it up over your bed. Printed it out and gave it to all your friends

[plucky summit]

Nah, I just send it whenever peeps complain about matchmaking

mm, half the time, if it isn't in balance discussion

[hard cedar]

I mean tbf one screenshot doesn't proof mm is good

[gentle comet]

It’s true though, matchmaking sucks. I have a friend who plays much better than me and has a 45 winrate and mine is 55

[plucky summit]

Nah the only point I want to make in that image is "carry harder", even when you can't, you'll land some good stats

[gentle comet]

Yeah it’ll occasionally work but most of the time it wont. Meaning matchmaking sucks

Anyway who wants to platoon ?

[plucky summit]

Alright, tell me how this game is special like all the other games don't lack good random matchmaking :p

[gentle comet]

I don’t really have time to play other games so i don’t know, I’m usually busy with university stuff and work

[plucky summit]

Well, when you got pros, you got noobs, hits every decently large MMO, if you have Super Conqueror, I'd like to see how two of em will work

[tardy arrow]

You’re trying to say that hisroyalfatness with 70%+ career wr got his wr by getting lucky with teams?

[tardy arrow]

The most common argument with sub 50%ers 🤖

[plucky summit]

Well, if the average play tier is high, with lots of battles, and high WR, then that's an easy pro-class

[gentle comet]

, he’s a pro player bruh

[tardy arrow]

But you just said he probs just gets carried and has good teams 🤷‍♂️

[gentle comet]

I wasn’t talking about him, maybe go to school and learn how to read properly instead of playing blitz all day

[plucky summit]

To be fair I do have too much free time on my hands :p

[gentle comet]

I mean it’s your life 😄

[tardy arrow]

No need to make assumptions here, and I’d much rather play blitz all day than complain about teams all day.

And yes, you pretty much just said that anyone 50%+ just get lucky with teams.

[gentle comet]

Not anyone but the average player who doesn’t suck or who isn’t a pro can easily fall below or above 50% due to luck, depending on what type of noob team they get. Btw you’re the one making assumptions talking about fatness bruh gtfo. “Pretty much said” read and you’ll see what i said, don’t make shit up. If you really feel no problem playing blitz all day you got a problem going on.

[plucky summit]

A rather isn't an action they've already taken, talk about bringing it out on context ._.

[gentle comet]

I said if you have no problem with playing all day, I’m talking about his mindset you hog

[tardy arrow]

Maybe you should be the one rereading. I said I’d rather play blitz all day than complain about it on discord all day. Hence you. And it’s fair assumption to say that fatness isn’t good after you said getting lucky with teams doesn’t make you a good player.

[plucky summit]

SO uhm

Is the vehicle here uhh... the matchmaking boat?

[gentle comet]

Dude i came to discord about 5 minutes ago, i aint on discord all day

[gentle wasp]

We are talking about positioning though, not the game in general.

[gentle comet]

Eventually saving horrible games by doing crazy damage isn’t something you’ll get to do every game, it’s not enough to determine your winrate, considering how many f cking games you play in a day.

[gentle wasp]

Disregard me, as it seems like you were just looking for an excuse to vent about the game.

[gentle comet]

I don’t need an excuse to vent about the game lol wtf

[plucky summit]

Y'know, I have a hard time grasping how I've invested 12 thousand battles in this game, perhaps more that weren't real battles

Steam says like 1200 hours

Geeeeeeez

[gentle comet]

That makes 50 days bruh. It’s kinda sad if you think about it

[plucky summit]

If that's sad you should see some of those titans of 120k battles

Let's assume each took a decent 3 minutes

[gentle wasp]

I’ve got almost 75 days yikes

[plucky summit]

250 days of gameplay

[gentle comet]

People out there wasting a whole year out of their lives on a mobile game. I mean it’s okay to have fun, ppl have different hobbies but idk man

[plucky summit]

I wouldn't be that sad knowing I could have spent 1/~80th of my life playing a tank game

Considering it's my main game to play

[gentle comet]

Who said you’ll live 80 years ? Maybe all that gaming is gonna give you cancer and you’ll be gone in 10 years 😂😂😂

[plucky summit]

1/27th, cool

I mean I would have spent 9 of those 27 years sleeping

[gentle comet]

Bruh... lol

What server do you play ?

[plucky summit]

NA, on my role =)

[gentle comet]

Ahh okay. I’m on Europe

[plucky summit]

Alright time to go have an existential crisis keeping in mind I sleep 1/3rd of my life

[gentle comet]

Also you can get cancer from blitz and prematurely die

Keep all of that in mind. 😂

[plucky summit]

Cool, no college 😂

[gentle comet]

You know you could skip collage if you would rather die lol. Maybe work at a food place or something and save up money then buy a farm and become a farmer

[plucky summit]

Dang how'd you know I live in Alabama? 😂

[gentle comet]

I forgot to tell you im a hacker mate 😂

[plucky summit]

Dang, guess Ima have bad RNG for the rest of the day

[gentle comet]

Lmao

Only nubs blame Rng when it’s just their bad aim

Misses his 10th shot. “Omg rng”

[plucky summit]

Mine's been a bit odd lately, I had a curve shot today, and the rest were otherwise normal. I quit because that's not a good sign to play 183

[gentle comet]

Can i ask you for your opinion on something

[plucky summit]

Sure

[thick trout]

Oops I'm a little late but positioning is basically totally learnt through experience. Each playstyle is unique and certain things will work for you. The best thing to do is not be afraid to try things out and keep an open mind, keep playing to work out what works well and what doesn't then try and explain to yourself why and keep building on that.

[tulip sundial]

They should add the Panzer 1 ausf. F

[plucky summit]

Might as well use Pz. II J then

[solid gate]

I'm actually enjoying the t95 lol.

[past crane]

Should I free XP the top gun on the Charioteer? Yes or no.

[gentle wasp]

yes

[past crane]

since I really like the stock gun idk

I have 80k free XP that I want to build back up to 100 or so, and like 20k on the charioteer atm.

[hard cedar]

i mean if you wanna save your free xp for something else and you like stock gun no need to fxp it imo

[valid cedar]

What is the STA-1 like and how do you play it? I'm close to getting all the xp I need in the Chi-Ri atm so

[past crane]

idk, it's like a paper thin support tank from what I know

[tulip sundial]

But that’s a Pz II J, not a Pz I F

[plucky summit]

I know, but they're painfully similar

[tulip sundial]

I’m aware that they’re basically the same thing, but we have Emil 1 and Emil 1951 as well

[frigid quest]

Nobody cares about low tier tanks. Now do not follow the Meadsy bandwagon by saying 5.5 sucks.

[neat nimbus]

i got it

[blazing bloom]

its about new players progressing too quickly and end up in high tiers without much experience or knowledge about the game

i started playing the game after 5.5 so i dont really have an opinion on the update since i didnt get to experience the pre-5.5 experience

[lyric oriole]

@neat nimbus English only

[tulip sundial]

5.5 destroyed the low tier learning experience of new players

[plucky summit]

Elaborate

[tulip sundial]

Tanks that had different play styles are gone

It’s not rocket science

[plucky summit]

Not really, honestly, the heavies got more solid since then, and the lights keep their roles

[tulip sundial]

When I started playing (around when French TD’s came in) I played the different low tier tanks, and often switched which line I was grinding and all the different tanks with varying armour, speed and guns quickly showed me how I need to play them differently

But now you get players who charge frontline with light tanks or flank with a heavy because they no longer have tanks at low tier that quite show them how to play the different tanks

[plucky summit]

I think that's just general noobery though, that seemed to always be there

[solid gate]

I mean they never learned anyways it takes roughly 2-3 months and that’s being generous in reality it’s atleast 5 months to reach tier 10
You have to build up a sufficient amount of credits and almost 900k exp in total to finish a whole line without discounts which takes roughly 1000+ battles in that time it’s 200-100 spent in every tier more than enough to learn from mistakes but players like this will always exist

Besides low tier didn’t teach much anyways when derp guns were a thing a clubber could buy back a hetzer throw on the 105 and farm raisins all day

[hollow moth]

Sorry, but tier 2-4 never had an actual variety. You only start to experience what is really a light, medium, heavy or TD at tier 5 (with a few exceptions on tier 4)

And honestly, it's impossible to learn anything from the pre 5.5 low tiers and the reason is way beyond the significant lack of variety

[lavish epoch]

How to use T57 Heavy

[hollow moth]

Second line heavy exclusive for support other heavies and meds. That's it in a 2 lines description

[low rampart]

@solid gate Unless you're doing a reroll, or focusing on a single line, it takes way more than 5 months to acquire a tier 10. A casual player will have to grind every day, i doubt it.

[hard cedar]

way more than 5 months what

[hollow moth]

Considering that an experienced account probably have a good clan (so add about 20.000 Fexp to the math), good premiums (add good tank to grind credits), boosters (if the player didn't vurn all the boosters this year, multiple the earn exp) and some skill (increase the earned exp)

According to my maths (which are based on nothing), it takes about 5 months to get a tier 10 if you focus considerably on the game

I have studied in the "World of Heavies Blitz National Academy of Belarus" for 4 years, I'm also PhD in close quarter support. I know what I'm talking about.

[hard cedar]

Ah ok. Sorry I doubted you. You seem to be highly qualified.

[valid cedar]

Lmfao

[neat nimbus]

I originally planed to buy 75 for money when WG's obsession with crates saved me from using money

[frigid quest]

Too many players blame their problems on 5.5 and most of them are sheeps listening to youtubers like meadsy or droodles. No, the grind did not change at all by the slightest, that was the job of 3x/5x boosters and research/credit certs. Getting out of low tier was never such a difficult task to begin with credit and exp wise though not always skill wise.

@tulip sundial Is "diversity" in low tiers mean derp/autocannon spam? They have terrible penetration values and offering the gun choice to newbies will only make matters more confusing and end up ONLY being tools for more experienced players. IK the autocannon experience is exclusive to low tiers but cmon, you still have quite a bit of tanks to use a derp gun. Without 5.5, the game would be inaccessable, just look at the amount of sealclubbing in WoT or WT. Learn how to adapt, and make your own opinions, not take one from a youtuber.

[hollow moth]

Seal clubbing in WT is justified @frigid quest

[frigid quest]

Not if it does not allow the game to grow, which it already does

[blazing bloom]

your point is valid that x3/x5 exp boosters are shortening the grind more than update 5.5, and i cannot provide a valid argument to that statement

[hollow moth]

"Low tier is fun tier" for a reason. Less APDFDS, no ATGMs, only 2 tanks have HEATFS bellow 5.3, no jets (being bomber is actually worth it), etc

[frigid quest]

Your arguement was supporting why low tier is fun, not why seal clubbing is justified

[hollow moth]

I bully WOTB seal clubbers because they are pretty much "shwixhwisgewozbaosb look to my Grosstraktor, I'm so good at beating tier 3 tanks"

I respect WT seal clubbing, it's a way to show the devs that post ww2 tecnology are good good to the game, but not when they fight ww2 era vehicles

Good job, always remember to sidescrape and angle

[frigid quest]

Gaijin should probably divide the game into a WW2 and Cold war/Modern era, the og players prefer the WW2 stuff, and the newer players would probably want the modern tech

[hollow moth]

I started playing WT exclusively for ww2 vehicles, I have 0 interest in modt of post war things

But yeah, there should be a matchmaker exclusively for ww2, another for post war vehicles

[broken sun]

I sawer you need to nerf the stug! It's trash armmo is trash

[hard cedar]

Why nerf the stug if the ammo is trash (does that mean pen is trash?)

[broken sun]

Armmo is trash

[hard cedar]

Armor?

[bleak mauve]

How do you get the super hellcat

[gentle wasp]

it hasn't been released yet

[bleak mauve]

I saw it in one of my recent battles.

[gentle wasp]

correction it hasn't been publicly released yet. only testers have it.

[tulip sundial]

I just want baguette panther and Souma SM

[sacred robin]

Anyone got tips on Hori type 1?

[vague oar]

Thx bro

[sacred trail]

5.5 was the update that knocked out plenty of tanks from the tech trees (mostly from tiers 1-5) and basically restructured the whole thing. And now, they’re re-selling these vehicles that were taken off as collectors either for real money, as a package, crate opportunity, or an event reward

[vague oar]

As the Hori has good armor positioning is the Key.

[sweet fern]

Is Obj263 gut?

and how to play?

[thorny smelt]

They should've include a Japanese heavy tank at least tier 5 like O-I Exp. and O-I for tier 6. These tanks are DUMMY THICCCCC!!!

[kindred wren]

Yes.... sure. I just had the same thought... totally. Not.

[rich verge]

opinions on su130?

[manic carbon]

@sweet fern it’s not

[solid gate]

once again i will ask now that my friend is watching too: how good is germany and how good is the e100 cause he cant win if im in my is4 and is7. he also says that german tanks suck even tho he is loves german tanks

[kindred wren]

German superheavies are some of the strongest tanks in the game if positioned correctly

It’s also only medium difficult to position them correctly so they are fairly competitive even in the hands of less experienced players

[solid gate]

he only has 1.5k battles total and i have 4.3k battles total

[rigid thunder]

The E-100 is a solid tank, needs proper knowledge on angling in order to pull off well. High alpha damage also helps when trading, which is something the maus doesn't have. When you do wind up facing one in an IS-4, slinging gold at the turret will usually work, while if you're in an IS-7, your only option is to flank or find shots into his lower plate

[valid cedar]

flanking as a german superheavy 👀
i just fire HE if im forced to fire at their turret sometimes cuz as a mauschen im slow and my pen is low rip

[solid gate]

my friend is still convinced german tanks are trash and he loves german tanks so what should i tell him?

[rigid thunder]

I'm suggesting what he should do in an IS-4/IS-7, since he mentioned how to couldn't win against E100s in those 2 tanks

[valid cedar]

oh oops

[violet timber]

Tell him that 1v1s are quite possibly the worst measure of how good a tank is in a 7v7 game.

[valid cedar]

^^^
not the worst, but lets just say german superheavies arent the #1 tank for 1v1s

[violet timber]

German super heavies have good armor, heavy hitting guns, and tons of hp letting them be the shield of the team while still managing good damage numbers

[valid cedar]

the e100 and maus's role is to tank dmg for their team while they fire behind. they dont have the best dpm (e100 has good alpha tho), and due to this german superheavies rely so much on teamates in order to be used to its full potential (to actually hit their shots and do dmg). They are the shield, not the sword, so losing in 1v1s due to inferior dpm isn't too surprising

[violet timber]

Maus is one of if not the best performing tier X heavies for a reason

[valid cedar]

which one is better for its tier: mauschen or maus? im on the mauschen atm but i noticed the alpha and pen of the mauschen and maus are the same, so i was dissapointed at first, but i realised the maus doesn't have a cupola weakness which means a lot for me. What do you think?

[violet timber]

Maus is 100% better, not even a competition. The armor and hp that come with the Maus absolutely stomp in its tier while the mauschen tends to struggle a bit

[valid cedar]

in game it says the overall frontal armour is the same (240 iirc) on the mauschen and maus tho idk why, though when i fight a maus its just a nightmare

[violet timber]

The frontal armor is the same but the Maus has about 30mm more on the side iirc which lets it over angle a lot more effectively

[valid cedar]

oh yeaa true i can angle to higher degrees now

also since im abt to go to the STA-1 and seeing ur nickname, what is the sta like and how do you play it?

[violet timber]

It’s kinda bad. You have average mobility, no armor except in the mantlet, and a good gun, so really all you need to do is hull down and peek-a-boom. You have really good penetration so that’s not really a concern, just watch the mobility because for its tier, it’s gonna feel really sluggish for a medium

[valid cedar]

how is it for its tier compared to the chi ri? i just got used to the chi ri and i love it rn

[violet timber]

STA is better to me, but it comes down to personal preference

[manic carbon]

Maus is definitely better tier for tier because it is far more resilient and much harder to kill than a Mauschen since it has a way better armour profile, and of course the HP pool

Japanese meds are all about that second line support

[valid cedar]

oh i play chi ri as a surprise element burst tank, so i attack from unexpected or hard to hit places when the enemy is distracted- i never go behind hts cuz thats death for me with bad armour and pen

[plucky summit]

And how did this destroy the learning experience for new players? Sounds like plain greed

[keen garnet]

I would generally say best tank does not exist

But it is arguably the Smasher or Annihilator

[valid cedar]

is it me or does the stock sta truly suck

[hard cedar]

Most stock tanks truly suck

[onyx sluice]

Annihilator and Gravedigger.

[distant nymph]

all of the tree tier 7s are nice (except the t43, that thing is a tier 6.5)

[simple tide]

I’d say the T 29 for a tech tree one

[thick trout]

Global stats wise it's the tiger P but I'd say things like the tiger, T-34-1, JP, panther and BP are probably all a close second to the T29 which just dominates

[sacred trail]

Because unless you want to play with some of these removed tanks by getting them through rather unscrupulous means such as paying a lot to get a chance to get one from a crate, or just flat-out dropping $5 or something, you won’t be able to play with it since all the low-tier stuff is either super-limited or locked behind a collector status

[sacred trail]

But yeah, Black Prince is definitely one of those 7s that can hold its own if you can find a weak spot. If not, then use APCR. If APCR doesn’t pen and HE doesn’t splash it, then slowly back away so your teammates can tackle care of it

[simple tide]

The T 29 can pretty easily kill an anni

When hull down of course, but the upper plate could also get a bounce or two from the clip

[quaint charm]

Is T110E4 worth it

[violet timber]

Not really, there are better tds

[quaint charm]

Then what is best tank destroyer

[violet timber]

Depends on what you’re trying to do. You want the E4 as an armored td? Get an E3 instead. Want to snipe in the E4? Get a Grille instead.

[quaint charm]

I want to be able to be like a juggernaut and snipe and rush in

[violet timber]

E4 will be shredded if you do this, get an E3 instead

[quaint charm]

I also want a big powerful tank

[violet timber]

Then get either a Maus or E100, though you can’t snipe in those

[quaint charm]

I want like an all purpose kind of tank thats good for everything

[violet timber]

Then get a medium like an STB or T-62

[quaint charm]

What is purpose of tank destroyer

[solid gate]

Destroy tanks

[quaint charm]

Is it a support vehicle or a front line tank

[violet timber]

Tds have high alpha guns with good penetration, they are mostly second line or sniping tanks meant to punish enemy mistakes

[quaint charm]

Yea i want td then

So e3 is better than e4

[violet timber]

In almost every aspect, it just doesn’t have a turret

[quaint charm]

Idk looking at e3 it seems like one of those tanks that get caught in a fast tank circling you

[violet timber]

You are slightly team dependent, but most of the time you go with the heavies and provide good fire support while having enough armor to be self sufficient should the situation arrive where you need to front line

[quaint charm]

I currently have t25/2

[violet timber]

T25/2 works like a medium

[quaint charm]

Should i try to get both e3 and e4 at the same time or grind for e3

[violet timber]

Go for one before the other, they share a lot of modules so getting one makes the other easier

[quaint charm]

So which do you recommend me going for first

[violet timber]

E3

[quaint charm]

Ok

Thank you

Can i come back to you later for more tank advice

[violet timber]

Sure

[quaint charm]

Are platoons a good way to grind

@violet timber

[violet timber]

As long as you and your platoon mate are good yes

[quaint charm]

I havent played for a while and dont have a clan anymore what should i do

@violet timber

[violet timber]

A lot of clans are open so you can just search a few

[quaint charm]

Ok

@violet timber i want to find a clan that does tournaments and will allow me in and be active but i cant seem to find any

[lapis creek]

I'd like to play with Russian tanks. But I don't know what to go for

[hollow moth]

What are the most valuable stats for you? Armor? Speed? Precision? DPM? Alpha?

[clear bobcat]

try russian tds

[fiery sandal]

YES! Get the SU-152, it awesome, the HE shells have good penetration.

[simple tide]

Just Wait until you get the bl 10 on the isu, and when you get to the obj 704 you’ll already have the top gun

[fiery sandal]

Got it, the 122mm guns on them aren't bad, but not as fun. A 7.3 second reload on a 122mm is amazing.

That is, with full crew and gun rammer

[simple tide]

I honestly didn’t like the su 152 because of the terrible AP rounds, the HE was nice though

[plucky summit]

The AP worked good enough, and if they didn’t HEAT will solve the problem

[valid cedar]

Ask #clan-recruitment or #clan-search

[white sandal]

Yoo is the T28 HTC good? I got a deal on it for 5500 gold instead of 17k so I was wondering if thats a steal or just a waste of gold

[violet timber]

Yeah, it’s pretty good

[solid gate]

so my friend who coudnt 1v1 me in his e100 against my is7 and is4. i 1v1 him a second ago and he didnt do any damage on my is7 and the same happend in my is4 some weeks ago so i think he is just not good and should learn more then saying german tanks suck

[white sandal]

Alright, any tips on how to play with it? Any major weaknesses I should be aware of or anything?

[neat nimbus]

really wg?

[violet timber]

The turrets on the side are major weak points. Peer around the corner till you can shoot and just stay there, enemies will bounce

[white sandal]

alright bet, thanks for the tips!

[solid gate]

He is like the object 263

[simple tide]

Cant you use your gun to block one of the weak spots on the HTC?

[violet timber]

Not really

[valid cedar]

Its super good: it has decent alpha and dpm but most of all crazy front armour

[valid cedar]

Hes gotta stop judging tanks by 1v1 potential
We alr discussed this, did he read what hange and i said?

[valid cedar]

Here

[hollow moth]

Finally someone that agrees with me about T28 HTC not being bad!

[valid cedar]

the t28 htc independence?
imo its op

[hollow moth]

It's not exactly op, but it's a total idiot-proof tank if you hide the hatch in a corner
It stills penetrable through the tracks if you don't load HEAT

[delicate dock]

for future reference, ignore the "original price"

It's just there for show. To put into perspective, T22 was sold for 20k gold last year

[white sandal]

ooooh i gotchu

[brave night]

E100 isn’t meant to tank dmg that’s solely maus

[candid harbor]

e100 is a super heavy :v
not paper td

[hollow moth]

Even tho, E100 does it very well and also have more ability to attack than Maus

[brave night]

E100 got gun so it’s more of armored td since the armor doesn’t work extremely well

E100 can take shots but it’s not meant to tank them

[valid cedar]

its sidescraping is still very strong, there's a reason its called a superheavu still

[hollow moth]

I tend to disagree, E100 armor work very well when in certain conditions.

[candid harbor]

nah dude, it got big gun, must sit in spawn xd

[hollow moth]

"I will play distance in my super heavy, so enemies will struggle to hit my weakspots"

[candid harbor]

logic is flawless
XD

tank like maus exist, i must sit 500m away from team and snipe

[hollow moth]

I deny to angle my turret, so I must camp

[candid harbor]

wdym i have second highest hit point??!!

[solid gate]

a20 must use on side T1 heavy use premium ammo ----wolverine have same gun as sherman ? and is TD ? bravo WG --- and best gun on tier 7 (ARL 44 -225 dmg - best pen -best dpm) all is perfect balance

[plucky summit]

ARL 44 is a tier 6

[solid gate]

he read it but he is just mad im better then him like we 1v1 in alot of tanks and i won around 18 battles and he 4 without me doing my best tbh. im talking about tier 10,tier 8 and stuff the only 4 times he won was in tier 6 in 1v1 medium tanks

[hollow moth]

Except that Wolverine's reload and aim time is way superior. Fool.

A tier 4 need prammo to pen a tier 5 heavy. So what?

ARL 44 is surely a balance problem, but the gun isn't the reason of this. There's tier 8 guns at tier 6 tanks and they're well balanced.

[brave night]

they aint heavies with a lot of hp tho

[gentle wasp]

Arl is fine in pubs yes the gun is great but that’s the whole point of the tank

[hollow moth]

The whole point of the tank is a very good mobility and high frontal armor. Turret and sides being the main weakspots (as like M6 EXP, but EXP isn't fast and neither agile) @gentle wasp

The ARL 44 never made me upset, just the frontal armor with that speed is so, ugh

[plucky summit]

It also has track weakspots so it can really get crippled if caught out

[valid cedar]

How do you play the IS-4 and IS-7 despite the long long aiming time?

[plucky summit]

Be defensive, unless of course the situation calls to get a push goin

[valid cedar]

Rn on my is3 im just tryna sidescrape but the aiming time rly sucks

[plucky summit]

Also take your time to aim of course, RNG isn't too easy on ya with those tanks

[gentle wasp]

Get in hulldown situations instead. Turret is great so you’ll have time to aim, but with any Soviet heavy you want to pick pretty close-range engagements.

[plucky summit]

IS-4 can stay close, but IS-7 needs a bit of distance to keep itself safe, small turret cheeks exist, and are more horizontal than IS-4's, so it's often easier to hit

[valid cedar]

How should i be playing my is3 specifically then? Hulldown or sidescraping

[plucky summit]

Hulldown, it's best in tier for hulldown armor

[gentle wasp]

Hulldown and more hulldown. Only sidescrape if you absolutely have to.

[plucky summit]

Ridges are always your friend, unless you're a, SU-101, SU-122-54, or an Obj. 263

[gentle wasp]

Fair but you still have poor aim time and .362 so you can’t sit back too far and expect to do much.

[plucky summit]

I'm spoiled with refined gun :p

Or maybe I play 183 too much

[valid cedar]

Thing is hts dont often go to ridge areas, they usually go to flat city like areas dont they

[plucky summit]

Funny you should mention flat city, because Himmelsdorf has loads of both

If it isn't Faust or Mayan Ruins (you shouldn't go heavyside anyways), you usually have terrain to work with

Albeit a struggle to take advantage of with IS-3's gun depression, the pike can be worked

[quiet heart]

I think when most people talk about ridges, they mean places like Mines or Dunes. Himmelsdorf has lots of places to hull down but I wouldn't really count the piles of rubble there as 'ridges'

[plucky summit]

Alright I also need to stop thinking everything is as useful with ridges as Lowe

[quiet heart]

*Arl 44 with stock turret

[plucky summit]

Too far down the tiers for my consideration

[hollow moth]

I mean, Löwe turret isn't the most reliable thing against a T34 of something like this

[plucky summit]

Ah yes, use the best, most consistent gun as an example, against the Lowe anyways

[hollow moth]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[plucky summit]

Russian guns will take a gamble, this is more solid and easier to pull off than many

[hollow moth]

Yeah, I'm a Löwe owner, I know hot the turret can be incredible but it's just sad that even FCM 50t can penetrate easily if you don't move

[plucky summit]

Movement is life

[hollow moth]

It's an incredible tank, but not every idiot can play it, that's why I like Löwe

That's also what makes me sad, I just want to be a T34 that stands doing nothing with life, but none penetrates the turret

[plucky summit]

ISU-152: Whats up, nerddddd?

[hollow moth]

What's the nerddddd? Is it a meme? You're the second persong I've seen using this term but I still don't get it

[plucky summit]

I'd love to replicate a certain meme, but a certain rule prevents certain words from being used

[hollow moth]

Ah, I see.

[plucky summit]

Now to bask on the fact ISU can drill in Obj. 252U's gun mantlet

Oh IS-3, how underrated you are

And IS-7 :p

[wise moth]

IS-3 even more impressive if you're comparing the 2 against, say... SU-101's 374mm calibrated HEAT, since that can't triple overmatch the roof

[frigid quest]

the 252us armor still works better overall but the is3 is not as bad as many say

if you have to hide a huge lfp, might as well hide the hull

[wise moth]

I got the 252U for cheap when it was sold for like 5k gold or whatever. After 50 battles, I got bored with it, and switched back to my IS-3. And man it was like a breath of fresh air. No more turret pens, no more ridiculously terrible accuracy, no more terrible acceleration

[wise moth]

^^^So much this. Everyone is like "omg IS-3 is so powercreeped because you can pen the hull"... but the dam hull is so short, that it's nearly the same height as 252U's lower plate

[plucky summit]

I use T-2020 for my entertainment :)

[frigid quest]

i recently restored my is5 and if you give me a 252u, i wouldnt notice a differance other than the fact that the is5s gun straight up sucks other than the heat

[wise moth]

252U's main advantage is that it's super obnoxious to kill because the sides are super hard to pen, but that's just a "save me" when you've been outplayed

[frigid quest]

if anyone relies on the black hole sides on russian heavies other than sidescraping, they made a mistake

[hollow notch]

Is3d remains my favorite IS-X

Out alpha and reloading people is just so satisfying

[wise moth]

First battle in the IS-3 in a while, and it still feels good as ever

Made short work of an enemy IS-6 in a brawl because I can slice through his turret almost anywhere, and he can't even dent mine

[surreal blade]

Is3 is my second favorite IS after is7

[wise moth]

Ah yes, a man of good taste

[hollow notch]

I personally greatly prefer the is5 over the is3

[plucky summit]

I prefer T-2020 to the IS-3

[plucky summit]

Two containers in one battle? Roll that die again

[brave night]

I’ve gotten a epic and legendary from one battle so

[sleek marten]

Tips for playing the SP 1 C

[brave night]

Use clip and sped around avoid smashers

[sleek marten]

problem is that as soon as i get spotted everyone targets me

[low rampart]

I wonder what keeps the IS-3 from being one of the best in it's tier?

[candid harbor]

out spot them
you need to learn to hide your tank but still be able to spot enemies

spotting is your goal, then you can know where to avoid conflict

also learn to use yourself as a bait

gun is bit wack but works

[brave night]

Mostly people saying it’s trash and the tank being hard to play

[hollow notch]

I could play an is3. Or I could play a shark...

[low rampart]

It's good but it takes some work, more so than more OP tanks in the tier.

[pine jolt]

They should make it that if your transmission is hit you can’t chat or communicate with your team

[honest ice]

what are the most fun low tier tanks?

[frigid quest]

dont seal club

[honest ice]

dude.. you're playing blitz. That's just so out of question. 😂. Anyways, what are your most fun tanks?

[frigid quest]

none, low tier is not fun, simple

[honest ice]

i moved back to "tanks" in general.

anyone main the tog?

[hollow moth]

Tier 1: seal clubbing at tier 1 is pointless

Tier 2: seal clubbing at tier 2 is pointless

Tier 3: Ke-ni, Ke-ni Otsu, Grosstraktor, BT-7, SU-76, Pz IV A, Cruiser IV, T82, BT-SV, Pz 3, Panzer 2 J

Tier 4: Alecto, T6E1, SU-85B, AMX 40, M3 Lee, Luchs, Pz. B2, B1, Hetzer, HK SP, Matilda

Tier 5: M4 Sherman, T14, Krupp 38 (D), BDR G1 B, SU-85I, Panzer 5/4, Leopard, StuG III G, Sherman V, Angry Connor, Nightmare, T1 Heavy, KV-220 T, Pz IV G, Pz.Sfl. IVc, AMX ELC bis

Tier 6: MT-25, T-34-85, Pz IV Schmalturm, D. "Fat" Max, TOG II, ARL 44, M4A3E2 Sherman jumbo, Firefly, Strv 74A2, Vk 36.01 H, Jg Pz 4, Cromwell, Cromwell B, Churchill VII, Churchill GC, Type 64, AMX 12t, Pudel (comming soon), Y5 Firefly, M4A3E8, Hellcat, KV-2, SU-100Y, Bretagne Panther (Comming soon), P.43 bis, P.43/06 Ann.

[honest ice]

TOG II
good enough for me. XD.

thanks for the list bruh. Makes sense.

[hollow moth]

Only listed tanks that have one or more of those characteristics:

• Is very good, OP or broken.
• Have a unique characteristic.
• Have a funny gameplay.

[plucky summit]

Not Pz. II J?

[hollow moth]

I did forget about it

[wise moth]

That’s.... not what a transmission is. A transmission is essentially a gearbox that connects the engine to the drive wheel.

You’re thinking of the radio. Tanks on Blitz don’t have radio modules, or the radio crewman, but PC WoT does

[onyx sluice]

Pz B2 is the most fun out of T4, especially since you will never upteir.

[hollow moth]

From that list, I believe that

• Funniest tank: 1st is KV-2, 2nd is AMX ELC bis, 3rd is TOG II
• Best (but not broken or OP): 1st is P.43 Ann., 2nd is Panzer 4 S, 3rd is CromB
• Most broken: 1st is Ke-Ni Otsu, 2nd is Ke-Ni and 3rd is KV-2
• Most OP: 1st is KV-220 bt, 2nd is ARL 44, 3rd is Vk 36.01H
• Most unique tanks: 1st is Panzer 4 Schmalturm, 2nd is SU-100Y and the 3rd is TOG II

This is pure personal opinion ^

[surreal blade]

Lol thanks

[surreal blade]

Ths is cuz u r a juicy one-shot un armoured target for everyone. I always target spics first in my su 152, Kv2 and HÉ them in my lttb

[surreal blade]

Mt 25 tops the list of funny gameplay

[hollow moth]

I tend to disagree, as light tanks aren't exactly my beach

[viral idol]

Hey guys, should i buy the t57 heavy or Amx 50b

[surreal blade]

Oook

[kindred thorn]

50b is more mobile

[hollow moth]

T57 heavy grind seems less painful, but I haven't researched well both lines

[viral idol]

Which one is more devastating in the bettlefield

[hollow moth]

idk, but I focus more on 50B because it's easier to kill for bigger guns

[clear bobcat]

go for 57 heavy

and go t49 line and then switch at the tier nine, unless you want to get to sheridan

[copper swan]

How to play Progetto 46?

[inland ivy]

t46 noises

[stiff basin]

use your clip, it's pretty good. Your mobility is good, but you have no armour. You can cap and spot, but also clip people, you can do everything not needing armour

[copper swan]

It's a struggle in tier 9, give tips for playing against t9s

[stiff basin]

Don't trade with people, don't get spotted if you can, play it like a T49, i think that should work

[wind burrow]

Action x for 10k gold, worth it ?

[stiff basin]

every offer out of these is worth it

[storm robin]

CAX is overrated, especially if you were around back when the Sheriff was for sale for literally half the price; they both achieve the same role of a hull-down dpm heavy, and the Sheriff lacks a cupola weak spot to boot

[stiff basin]

AX has better DPM, it's better at permatracking, it has better turret and is more accurate, but has slightly less hitpoints and camo. Also, AX's upper plate seems better

[storm robin]

The CAX has like 200 more dpm, which isn’t much of a difference. Plus, that better turret is significantly weaker to prammo - that forehead is flat armour which can and will be penned by HEAT, and it has an actually weak cupola - and that upper plate won’t matter that much if you’re doing hull-down

[stiff basin]

Both of these tanks have a cupola, and T26E5 has weaker turret against high penetrating prammo

[storm robin]

Yes, but here’s the key thing - the Sheriff’s cupola is armoured

[violet timber]

AX cupola is invisible when it uses its gun depression

[steep marsh]

There is part betwen spaced armor and hull you just shoot there and pen

[topaz crater]

Pls help how to play with E-75

[onyx sluice]

Angle.

[loud sphinx]

Am i the only one that thinks that the T29 is better than the T32

the T32s hull has so little armor, and even if u manage to angle it, you can still just shoot the little gun

[sturdy bane]

not even close

[loud sphinx]

How is it superior besides the small increases in stats

[manic carbon]

They buffed the T29 and now it is one of the best tier 7s.
T32 isn’t bad, but T29 is better tier for tier I’d say

[loud sphinx]

i got it yesterday and it just seems like it has way more weak points/spots
than the t29

[neat nimbus]

Is a worth the action x

[onyx sluice]

So I've learned the hard way the IS-2 Berlin has no gun depression.
Especially bad since I've been playing my Emil a lot.

[candid harbor]

it has got 6° which is like the high end for Soviet tanks

[onyx sluice]

It's my first Soviet tank.

Just got caught unaware when I tried to work a ridge line.

[candid harbor]

F

[hollow notch]

This isn't 2016 anymore

[candid harbor]

wdym
Soviet tanks max out at 7° depression

[hollow notch]

Remember when 5° was standard and 6(140) was amazing?

We got 252us, k91, and whatever the heck else running around

[candid harbor]

bruuuh
i said
6° depression is like high end for Sovietski танк

[hollow notch]

No hablo russia

[delicate dock]

lol

[acoustic ginkgo]

which should i got for ? progetto or ax ?

@candid harborprogetto or ax ????

[stiff basin]

both

[acoustic ginkgo]

no

[stiff basin]

So idk I enjoy both

[violet timber]

Depends on your skill level. Progetto can get out higher numbers, but it requires more skill to do so. AX can just roll up to a hull and pump out damage

[acoustic ginkgo]

going for progett thanks

[runic sentinel]

How long will the progetto and AX tanks stay for? (Not the bundle, the individual tanks)

[hard cedar]

14d i think

[acoustic ginkgo]

Maybe more

[hard cedar]

I think it's usually 14d

[acoustic ginkgo]

Obj 252u or ax btter ??

[neat nimbus]

I'm gonna sell my Churchill GC its victory rate is low and I don't play much I would rather use the death taoster any other day

[kindred thorn]

it got 2500 dpm though

[neat nimbus]

I'm bat at it and well I sell it anyways

[plucky rain]

You are just bad

[kindred thorn]

yeah bruh 750 avg damage in it?

[valid cedar]

ouch

[plucky rain]

That's like just 4 shots

[kindred thorn]

thats like 3 AP pens per battle in the GC man

[neat nimbus]

Thank you captain obvious

[plucky rain]

Welcome, not great player

[neat nimbus]

That's why I'm selling it

[plucky rain]

GC can sidescrape
And when enemy fired, poke out and blast the face
Then sidescrape again

[neat nimbus]

Yeah still selling it besides the teams are but in tier 6 and tier 7 I would struggle

[plucky rain]

Don't count on the armour, it's practically flat and non existent

Only expect to use 130mm armour to bounce against tier 5 lights and mediums
Other than that, it's just free hp donations

[carmine vigil]

Which one better Action or prpgetto 46

[kindred thorn]

lol a guy said GC is worst tank in the game

[plucky rain]

Lower glacis, don't bother 80mm

[hollow notch]

Prog

[plucky rain]

Who is that guy? He might be a scrub or doesn't know how to play GC
I placed my tips on playing it above

[carmine vigil]

ehy

[hollow notch]

Ax armor is lacking, and the pathetic alpha means it has to constantly be exposed to do damage. That is a receipe for pain.

[plucky rain]

Both tanks need some skill to play
Just play E 75 TS and Chimera for lesser skill.

[hard cedar]

Chimera in shop when

[neat nimbus]

Well....

[plucky rain]

Just wait, patience will pay off

[hard cedar]

Indeed, i bought Lorraine cuz i wasn't patient enough to wait for prog and apparently it was the next tank in shop 🤧

[acoustic ginkgo]

Need an awsner pls

[kindred thorn]

AX?

[hard cedar]

Idk i think 252u has better armor

[hollow moth]

252u is good, but gets boring quickly

[kindred thorn]

Oh
252u for armor and regular soviet 122mm heavy
action x for dpm

[hollow notch]

The only good thing about the AX is the dpm. Everything else is meh

[solid gate]

how KV3 defeat EMIL 1 ? or MK1 ?

[hollow moth]

By being smart.

[plucky summit]

Turret armor’s pretty nice

[violet timber]

Ummmm it’s a tier lower so it’s not really supposed to win

[plucky summit]

Hey hey, KV-3 is a good sidescraper, you could use that as a holding method and wait for support to arrive

[violet timber]

Eh, in that case I’d rather take an IS and still have mobility should I need it

[plucky summit]

I’d take a Tankenstein for the alpha scare

[hollow notch]

Ah yes, longer reload than a smasher with less pen and alpha

[plucky summit]

At least I got nice armor to work

nice

[hollow notch]

Eh, I would call it relatively comparable

[plucky summit]

Well, I didn’t wanna consider either Smash or Anni

[hollow notch]

The stein dpm is a complete joke

[plucky summit]

I like mitigating that by being a KV-2 but armored, sit behind cover to reload

[hollow notch]

It would be fine as a tier 6. This is tier 7

[plucky summit]

Well tier 7 is inherently badly balanced, I think Tanken is one of the higher ups of tier 7

[neat nimbus]

is a worth the action x? or i wait until a next tank comes

[plucky summit]

AX is good if you can keep yourself shooting

[hollow notch]

What...

Smasher, anni, 29, t62, drac, helsing, tiger, lycan, bp, IS...

... comet, tankenstein

[plucky summit]

Tankenstein, the E100 of tier 7. Change my mind.

[hollow notch]

...
No, because the e100 is actually useful

[hollow moth]

@hollow notch Tankenstein enjoyers are chads because they can enjoy and work with a very bad E100 version.
Smasher fanboys are soyboys, born with milk, pear and gold

[plucky summit]

Fine, use your OP examples, I’ll just go enjoy underrated tanks >:(

To hell with Lycan

[hollow notch]

Smasher and anni are boring. Helsing, type62, and drac are my go to tier 7s

[violet timber]

Bruh I love the Lycan

[neat nimbus]

tiger p fans are chads too

[hollow moth]

You may be unicum, but only true chads enjoy underrated tanks

[hollow notch]

Lycan= IS with 10° of depression

[delicate dock]

Screw premiums, I go blyat in lttb

[violet timber]

Gotta love the gravedigger as well

[plucky summit]

You’re talking to the guy who sat with pre-buff T-2020 and enjoyed it

[neat nimbus]

jagdtiger 8.8 isnt underrated anymore it become good as the Löwe

[hollow moth]

T28 HTC enjoyer here, anyone else too?

[hollow notch]

Hey, I love my kv5

[plucky summit]

You love speed too much, that’s my claim >x(

[neat nimbus]

any m4/fl10 enojoyer?

[violet timber]

Man, how about that sexy af STA-1

[hollow notch]

I just wouldn't recommend it to others

[hollow moth]

Yes yes yes yes ues fkebsiegaissk

[plucky summit]

It’s illegal to recommend hard to play tanks?

[hollow notch]

Oh hell yea, I forgot about that

[hollow notch]

Its just... don't be on my team

[delicate dock]

Unpopular opinion: I liked the pta and wz120

[neat nimbus]

i think they should add the sta 2

[violet timber]

Give me all the STAs

[hollow moth]

None enjoys T14 more than me, 4 aces and 2 first classes on it

[plucky summit]

I’m a good player ;-;

[neat nimbus]

if i remember well is a tech tree premiun fro wot pc

[hollow notch]

The wz120 was really fun to play

And @MS-1#1707 stein toon?

Curses, fail ping

[delicate dock]

lal

[plucky summit]

I would if I wasn’t at school right now :p

[hollow notch]

Oof, why you on discord

[neat nimbus]

would be good if was in blitz like the rest of the tech tree premiuns

[hollow moth]

@plucky summit is a cool man, he ignores school and focus in what is really important: defend an underrated tank from super unicum's bad tastes

[plucky summit]

77 battles, 1,832 avg dmg, it can pull its weight

@hollow notch as a senior near the end of the year after taking AP exams, 3 of my classes are not required attendance anymore, I’m in one if them, and since there’s 3 people in the room, no work

[hollow notch]

It's common knowledge that the tankenstein is bad. See my clan lead for example, even he knows it is bad

[kindred thorn]

26k battles

[plucky summit]

See? Drew tonk in class as usual

(Let it load)

[neat nimbus]

i better buy the action x before wg removes it

[hollow moth]

Tiger 2 is a bad tank, I just have 68% WR in 81 battles. Fair, fun and balanced.

[hollow notch]

I don't like the tiger2. It's too reliant on enemies being incompetent enough to shoot ap

[hollow moth]

Sidescrape.

[plucky summit]

Or being a T34 or ISU

[hollow notch]

Or I could use a vk100 and be better that that

[hollow moth]

Tiger 2 is more mobile

[hollow notch]

I will still take a vk100 basically any match

[hollow moth]

I like super heavies, but Vk 100 is too slow for me

[plucky summit]

I use just Lowe

[hollow notch]

Ew no

[plucky summit]

Oh don’t poop on my Lowe >:(

[hollow moth]

I like Löwe a lot, but it's getting a bit boring after more than 1k battles, you know?

[hollow notch]

Lol, I only got to 700

[plucky summit]

It’s still fun to me, I love how engaging it is with the armor and gun

The profile is perfect to sidescrape, and using rubble too with the troll turret and a reliable and dynamic gun

[hollow notch]

I have gotten 3 of them from the huge containers

[hollow moth]

913 pubs + 81 comps + gamemodes

[plucky summit]

I got Lowe from containers too :p

[hollow moth]

I bought Löwe in the Löwe & E25 pack from 2019, but it also appeared in my weekly loot box

[kindred thorn]

bruh even more sealclubber than yes im sealclubber

[plucky summit]

Lowe got me the credits I have today, the AMX CDC I have today, and the storage items I have today

[hollow moth]

Löwe and M6 EXP made me get Bat Chat, E100 and E5, also some other event premiums

[hollow notch]

I won an event of the forums which got me the edelweiss and nameless. It was amazing to get 2 high tier premiums back when I was f2p

[plucky summit]

Imagine got getting T-2020 for 50 bucks, couldn’t be me

[hollow notch]

Imagine getting a tankenstein from the Christmas event

[hollow moth]

Pffff, I got Helsing

[neat nimbus]

ok time for this tank come to me now (i have the progetto from the auction)

[hollow notch]

Prog>> AX

[plucky summit]

= )

=. )

=_)

Why?

[hollow moth]

Gib your gold pls @neat nimbus

[hollow notch]

Shark>> AX

[violet timber]

Shark>> any other tier 8 other than STA-1

[hollow notch]

No.

[hollow moth]

M6 EXP > another smol brain hull down heavy

[hollow notch]

M6 ain't a hull down heavy. It's the only hull up tank in the game.

[static harness]

I'd say ARL 44 but eh

[hollow notch]

Shbhbhhhh

[hollow moth]

I know, that's why it's better than just another hull down heavy, which are the majority in T8

[static harness]

Oh sorry
Disregard that

[hollow moth]

That french T10 heavy that isn't 50b?

[candid harbor]

i like progetto
but action x maybe very new player friendly

[hollow notch]

How many hours ago?

Lmao

[candid harbor]

almost 2

[violet timber]

AMX 54? Weak lower plate

[hollow moth]

Well, M6 EXP also have a weakspot in the front of the hull

[violet timber]

Not really

[hollow moth]

?

I know I can wiggle the hull and all, but that stills a weakspot. A hard to hit moving weakspots.

[gentle wasp]

Lol “not really”

[plucky summit]

AMX 50 B

[hollow notch]

Oh please

[plucky summit]

When that thing frontscrapes it’s terrifying

[hollow moth]

I didn't know this

[hollow notch]

Heh, I did it to a poor soul yesterday

[plucky summit]

Weak lower plate?

So it’s normal?

[hollow notch]

Along with a tiger 2 style upper plate...

[plucky summit]

At least it can give lenient hulldown

[hollow notch]

Yes, but the hull is bad

[hollow moth]

I have noticed only now how strong these hull cheeks are

I always tought they were very weak, or ar least that's how I feel sometimes

[plucky summit]

S h o u l d e rs

[hollow notch]

I do love the overmatch zone above the tracks

[plucky summit]

AMX M4 mle 54 is a M6A2E1 EXP with a strong turret

Change my mind

😳

Ignore that it’s tier 9

[hollow moth]

You can still hide it well, even if thats a very weak lowerplate, it's easy to hide it in a small ridge

[plucky summit]

It’s a fun tank to play with the alpha and turret

[hollow notch]

374 heat go brrrrr

[plucky summit]

Ah yes, tank is bad because OP shells can pen

[hollow moth]

I would want to want to learn one day how to draw am actual tank, I have imagined some tank designs that I think they're cool

[hollow notch]

More than half of heavies have these op shells, so yes, it is a major problem

[plucky summit]

I could try to draw your ideas

[hollow notch]

Your drawings suck

[plucky summit]

I know <3

[hollow moth]

I tend to disagree with this statement

[hollow notch]

<3

[plucky summit]

You don’t want to disturb a man who is drawing a pike nose

[hollow notch]

Take notes

[plucky summit]

That’s too cursed

[plucky summit]

2 angled

[hollow notch]

That's approx the right angle compared to your latest drawing

Wait. I can do better

[plucky summit]

Perish.

[hollow moth]

Once, while I was taking a shower and suddenly a T6 light tank design appeared in my mind. Basically, a mix of Sheridan and E25 playstyle, AMX ELC bis design

Like a back turreted fast light tank with a 105mm cannon, but with very limited turret transverse

[plucky summit]

T92E1.

[hollow notch]

@plucky summit here u go. You had better have a perfect pike.

[plucky summit]

I will curse you.

[hollow moth]

Damn, that's exactly the type of tank that I was thinking, but 105mm cannons are decently big in tier 6, and a limited turret transverse tho

I did forget about T92E1

[plucky summit]

@hollow notch I cheated.

[hollow moth]

That hurts me, the mantlets probably are 60% of that turret

[hollow notch]

You can't out curse the elc even 120

[plucky summit]

So a Vickers Light? :p

[hollow moth]

I mean... vickers is... nevermind, I can't think in an excuse for this

[plucky summit]

@hollow notch you underestimate me.

[hollow notch]

they actually built an elc even 120

[hollow notch]

Also, when will we get elc even 90 weegee

[hollow moth]

What is the point of making mode than 4 tracks in a vehicle?

[plucky summit]

🤡🤡🤡

I have many cursed tanks, there is no escape

[hollow notch]

What the heck is that pike supposed to be

[hollow moth]

A Leichtraktor, it's clearly supposed to be a leichtraktor

[plucky summit]

👁️👄👀

[hollow notch]

That's just ugly

[plucky summit]

Did somebody say ugly?

[hollow notch]

Keep your arty trash away

[valid cedar]

What's ths VK72.01 like and how good is it?

[violet timber]

AE phase Annihilator

[plucky summit]

A Maus that fasted for 8 years

Disclaimer: it’s not much faster

[hollow moth]

It's line is... just weird, but the tank itself is... also weird

[plucky summit]

Helsing, Dracula, Smasher, and Annihilator. All four tanks lived in harmony until this thing attacked

[gentle wasp]

what's the helsing part

[valid cedar]

The armour looks rly good on the vk and high alpha, are there any big weaknesses on it?

[hollow moth]

Hull shape

[plucky summit]

Two stacked- hull with auto-bounce between

[gentle wasp]

ah

[plucky summit]

And the rear turretedness

[hollow moth]

What's the point of making a rear turreted vehicle irl?

[plucky summit]

Balance

[hollow moth]

I see

[violet timber]

The crew compartment is in the back meaning a shell would have to go through the entire tank to kill someone

[plucky summit]

Why am I alive

[hollow notch]

And balance

Also, rip driver

[violet timber]

Balance matters too

[plucky summit]

:(

[hollow notch]

Imagine being the only guy (possibly radio dude too) to not be considered in the protected area