vehicles-discussion

[ivory berry]

Jagdpanther or sturer Emil?

[solid gate]

jagdpanther

[hard cedar]

Emil

[ivory berry]

Okey

[hard cedar]

Grille way better t10 than jg pz

[north root]

Jpanther is good when angled right and emil just goes to weak armor tanks

[ivory berry]

Ok thx for help me

[hard cedar]

Don't tunnel vision onto the t7 think about the line as a whole

[ivory berry]

And elefant or jagdpanther 2?

[north root]

Jpanther 2 my guy that thing is fun

[ivory berry]

Ok

[hard cedar]

mmmmmmm

[ivory berry]

Yes mmmmmmm

[hard cedar]

Think about the t10 you're gonna get there eventually

[ivory berry]

Ok thx

[sweet pawn]

is block like this normal on T28 HTC??? noone can pen me...

[kindred thorn]

its very hard for people to pen you at the front yes

[sweet pawn]

i forgot this tank in my garage but now i love it xD

[fast compass]

When top tier yeah, higher than i would expect. But yeah you can bounce

[sweet pawn]

okay, it was against T6 but a T29 not even had a chance to pen me would it be a other esult against T8?

[fast compass]

Yeah tier 8 in general would have easier time penetrating your lower plate and other weakspots

[sweet pawn]

okay, thx 🙂

[fast compass]

You just have to be careful in those matches

[solid gate]

people said the tank was bad but i like it ngl

[woeful pumice]

Don't buy Turtle, they made it worse than the AT15

[hollow notch]

Considering this is their first try...

[scenic crest]

lmao

[spark basin]

lt 432 and ae phase 1 straight up died

[scenic crest]

? since when, they were the most OP ones

[spark basin]

thats alot of nerfs to them

[scenic crest]

still OP, there needs to be more hype

[hard cedar]

What about skoda

[hollow notch]

Lt got what it needed

[gentle comet]

I just bought grille 15 and i can say it’s OP. My first game i did 4K damage and second game 4.5k

[scenic crest]

aftershot camo, and when randoms focus you, thats why its balanced

[heady galleon]

Yeah just dont get HE'ed by a JG E100, a deathstar,,, just try not to get HE'd at all and play it relatively safe

[gentle comet]

Yeah i only use it to snipe lol

Which is annoying for the enemies but that’s how you should play it i guess hahah

[sweet pawn]

Welcome in my garage 🙂

[kindred thorn]

Great tank

[gentle comet]

Bro back in the days i was so excited to get this tank. Now it feels like a low tier lol after owning ten tier X tanks

Now i only play tier 9-10 most of the time and I’ll use anni once in a while to piss ppl off

[low rampart]

@gentle comet A tier 10 player using anni to piss ppl off? The devil must be afraid of you.

[brave night]

Well they gave it spall liner so

[hard cedar]

Yes but it still hurts a lot

[kindred wren]

This is what I like about Wargaming. After they scare me to death with the first iteration of testing tanks they immediately show that they still got it when it comes to balancing

[low rampart]

Indeed. 🤡

[solid gate]

Hi

[kindred wren]

Hello

[solid gate]

I love Tiger 1 and u ? I am fr

[kindred wren]

It’s a great tank in the game. I really enjoyed playing it back when I ground the E100 line

[solid gate]

Ok

[spice cipher]

Hello all, is any of the valkyria tanks worth buying? I’m currently playing tier 5 or 6. Are there better deals than these?

[hard cedar]

I would wait a bit to get more experience in the game until you buy tanks so you don't get cursed at in every high tier game, and i also wouldn't buy the valkyria tanks they're not very good

[violet timber]

Eh, there are better tanks, but if you do decide you want one, I’d go for either the Namless or Lupus

[heady galleon]

@spice cipher
I bought them both. The lupus, is what i would say to be one of the most unique tanks in the game, not only does it have 12 degrees of depression, it has really trolly armor , and nomatter what way you are looking at it, there will usually always be red, so wiggle and you are most likely to bouce. The only problems i really see with this tank is the aiming time, and the DPS, which is rather low. it is pretty OP.

(this is all based off personal experience)

and for the nameless,, which i bough, also has pretty trolly armor in the front, and can be played frontline in lower tier battles. the turret is good, with just a few weakspots (nothing wiggling cant solve) and the hull armor is weird to where it fades from bright red pen to the top, to being more easily able to pen toward the bottom (one of the cases where it looks red, but you can still kind of pen it) the bottom plate, which is small, is really nice, and if you hide this tank behind cover you will bounce most shots throw at you. once again, the only real problem i see is the dispersion and aim time. the gun by the way, is fantastic other then that, good alpha, low reload, all the stuff you want in a tank.

I would watch some gameplay of these tanks to make sure they fit your play style/you think you would have fun with them. I would also like to mention i cannot see these tanks coming back to the store anytime soon

i personally, think they are all very unique and fun to play. You make that decision though and if there are tanks you would rather get, wait for them to come around in the store.

[violet timber]

I love my Edelwiess

[heady galleon]

I dont have that one, but i hear its an amazing peek-a-boo'er

[gentle comet]

😂😂😂😂

[violet timber]

Edel is basically a Panther, or E50M at tier 7

[heady galleon]

woah damn, it also has a hot gun doesn't it

[violet timber]

Eh, gun lacks of bit of penetration, but that doesn’t matter due to mobility

[heady galleon]

in the end mobility is all that really matters if you have low pen, unless of course the whole team is all together in one spot

[gilded harbor]

Español?

[violet timber]

No, soló ingles

[grand bramble]

Which tank is better e50 m or leopard 1

[heady galleon]

depends on your playstyle

[gilded harbor]

Ok F

[balmy glade]

This Tiger 1 camo should be legendary I want buy it but this don't exist in wotblitz 🥲

[balmy glade]

If you pro and you know how to use a paper fast tank with a good gun and don't die fast know how to use Mini map looking every where take leopard 1
If you new player or Noob or like medium tanks with more armor and you love ram tanks too take E50M it's more Universal gameplay good speed good gun (leopard 1 gun is better) good armor and good ram

[balmy glade]

I have both of them I play leopard 1 in mad games often and in Room sometimes I play it rare in normal battles.
E50M I play more in normal battles and in mods but not in mad games sometimes I paly it in room too
(Room= Teacher fun/Training Room where 14 players can join and do some things/play

[solid gate]

How is stridsvagn 74A2?

[plucky summit]

Very good autoloader, but it's all in the gun, everything else is meh

[plucky rain]

Turtle might as well have a turret

[keen garnet]

Nah bro, he just has a good gaming chair smh my head

[white river]

and teams again suck on my STB and lose, 7 times in a row.

God I wanna switch servers so much. Asia is just full of technical problems and people who can't even play after 15k battles.

If WG gave an opportunity to switch servers I would be 300% sure to switch servers.

[plucky summit]

Rip

And yet I play decently after only 11k

[static harness]

After 15k battles your soul leaves your body
After 30k you are basically completely dead inside
So no wonder they are bad
I'm rapidly approaching 30k

[sacred trail]

I’ve seen someone no-life YOLO in an Edelweiss in Mad Games and I was laughing my head off so hard seeing those collisions https://youtu.be/Jl_aK0ilFVI

[lyric copper]

Leopard 1 is just painful as other tanks have similar or even better stats, and they usually don’t sacrifice mobility, armour or the gun to do so. The T-62A has an arguably better gun, the STB has a turret, the VL is just as fast and has high pen HE shells. Soon, the Kpz50T and Obj.907 will also be added, and both (at current known stats) completely outperform the leopard 1

so imo, the E50M is better as it is more versatile

[gentle river]

First time?

[solid gate]

When there is a next sale of X tier premiums? Not from loot boxes?

[manic carbon]

@solid gate Strv 74A2 is pretty mediocre from my experience playing it.
All it really has on the gun is a short intraclip, the penetration is meh and dispersion nothing amazing.

The mobility is pretty bad because of its awful power to weight. It’s so sluggish and you really move like a heavy tank than a medium, but the tank doesn’t have the armour to back up that mobility. So you’re just this slow medium tank that won’t be bouncing much.

Also, It only gets 6 degrees of gun depression, which isn’t great. Not to mention only 9 degrees of elevation, which trust me, it will screw you over sometimes.

[solid gate]

arguably
It straight up is better with 100+more M/S quicker aim time and lower dispersion regardless of choice of equipment

As much as I hate to admit leopards gun is depressing after playing in t62 a bit

[lyric copper]

the arguably comes from alpha and pen

[onyx sluice]

Am I hallucinating or the Konstrukta T-34-100 used to have an autoloader?

[lyric copper]

never had one

[onyx sluice]

Thought so.

[copper swan]

How would you guys play the Lorraine 40t or the T-54 mod. 1, describe the playstyle?

[solid gate]

Jadpanzer e100 needs engine power boost and aiming booster same as e3

[lyric copper]

yes make a very accurate tank more accurate, jpz is meant to be 2nd line HT support

[solid gate]

I wonder who agree with my idea

[lyric copper]

no one with any logic would

[solid gate]

The biggest problem is the speed and rotation

[inland osprey]

I'd actually make the alpha less random, that 170mm gun sure does feel like a 152mm sometimes.

[west sable]

When you play cheiftan after not playing it for a year and the first match you have a good game

[sinful thorn]

The tank itself actually good

[solid gate]

Oi lads, I have question... In update description was that I can get pop-up offer for Jg camo after first battle in it.. so I played 12 in a row (8 wins and 4 loses) and even after this amount of games I didn't recieved any offer for it. Does anybody know why?

[solid gate]

Turbo?
I guess we're having a Hot Wheels theme now

[onyx sluice]

I saw a M4 Sherman with a flag camo, how do you get it?

[solid gate]

A M4 Sherman with a flag camo?
Never heard of it and it seems odd

[onyx sluice]

It was a random battle, Asia server.

I was in a Sherman too and he was in my team.

[burnt rain]

Is T-34-85 a good tank?

[cold jackal]

What flag was it?

[onyx sluice]

The American flag.

[midnight leaf]

you get it on july 4th for free i think

[frigid quest]

yes, it is a good tank, the dpm is kinda low though

[sinful thorn]

It is the june bp. One strange thing is that though its name is Turbo, it maximum speed is only 50

[midnight leaf]

it's probably going to be something like the amxcdc where its perpetually at its top speed

[onyx sluice]

Should I get the tracks on the M4 Sherman? They are 10K XP and I really just want to get to the next tank.

[gentle wasp]

the Turbo isn't much faster than the regular Strv74, which is a weird tank to pick if you're going to name the variant Turbo...

[hollow notch]

I mean...
We could have gotten a 4th cromwell

[gentle wasp]

wouldn't MT-25 be the obvious choice for Turbo?

[midnight leaf]

tier 6 dracula

[fast compass]

I would have thought of the vk28 but yeah we already got agent

[sinful thorn]

Yah

[midnight leaf]

well theres
cromwell football
cromwell b berlin
explorer

another cromwell wouldn't hurt

[hollow notch]

Yeah, but I want a 4th crom. It would be sick

[midnight leaf]

it might have the improved speed boost consumable?
maybe thats why

[solid gate]

lol yeah i think it's a June battle pass i think
And yeah very ironic to name a tank Turbo if it's slower than a Leopard lol

[fast compass]

Eitherway, when you think of speed in tier 6, it is usually something like a vk28, or hellcat not a strv 74

[gentle wasp]

right now it doesn't

[sinful thorn]

At least turbo will get a camo

[fast compass]

Well when you think of speed you don't consider a snail either, then there is turbo

[gentle wasp]

lol
the Turbo is secretly going to go 64+

[solid gate]

Maybe they'll add the Improved engine power boost for it?

[gentle wasp]

it's possible but blitzhangar is showing that it doesn't have it right now

[solid gate]

Yeah true

I went and look and i didn't see the booster

Well... we'll know soon enough when it comes

[sleek marten]

Any advice on how to play T57 heavy, its an odd niche. I just can't seem to do anything from what I assume is the second frontline. Any tips on where to find the second front line

[sinful thorn]

Somehow u need to use its 8 degree of gd at its best like wiggling turret and always have teammate to help when reloading

[hollow notch]

Find an isolated target that just shot, and give em 1200 damage. Going for tracks shots really helps as well.

[torpid kelp]

Which heavy in tier 8 has the most gun depression? Emil?

[solid gate]

Action x too

[plucky summit]

Emil I is tied with MANY other tier 8 heavies, I'll list them in a bit

[torpid kelp]

Thanks, than emil will do:)

How about meds, tier 8?

[plucky summit]

Emil I, Emil 1951, AMX M4 mle. 49, Somua SM, E 75 TS, Caernarvon, Chieftain/T95, Caernarvon Action X, T34, T32, M6A2E1 EXP, T34I, Chrysler K, T26E5, and T54E2

Ok getting meds

For 10 degrees of gun depression:
59-Patton, AMX CDC, M4A1 Rev., Indien-Panzer, Panzer 58, STA-1, Centurion I, Chimera, Defender Mk. I, Centurion Mk. 5/1 RAAC, Pershing, T26E4, and T25 Pilot 1

[torpid kelp]

👍 thanks

[plucky summit]

👍

[hollow moth]

👍

[iron galleon]

Ok so please tell me best battlepass tanks top 3 and worst top 3

[solid gate]

Uhhh...I think there's different types of top 3 out there
But idk that just my opinion

[iron galleon]

Hmmm

[mighty tinsel]

How did I do in damage?

[brave night]

Wdym

[mighty tinsel]

Did I do a good job in damage?

[brave night]

3k is pretty good

[mighty tinsel]

Yay thanks.

[solemn sun]

It's not bad, but definitely not the best

[static harness]

I'm happy with 3k in t10 considering the average iq of players there rn

[night field]

You should be that is completley reasonable with how the game is right now

[brave night]

3k t8 is perfectly good

[plush nebula]

Take the AT2 outta the game pls

[plucky summit]

@plush nebula state your argument

Or well, evidence

[plush nebula]

It's almost invincible when facing same tier or lower.

[plucky summit]

That's its only strongpoint.

[plush nebula]

You cannot pen it anywhere and the fire rate is ridiculous.

[plucky summit]

Fire rate for a small damage output, and also it has a penetrable cupola and oppressively weak sides if you know where to shoot

[solemn sun]

And it's mobility/speed is bad as heck

[feral granite]

AT-2 is balanced as it is.
Just use brain to outplay that tank,its not that hard. :)

[kindred thorn]

AT 2? just pen the cupola or get to its back

[solemn sun]

Leopard VK16 go prrr

[feral granite]

With Leopard you shouldn't play that way that you can see AT-2 from the front. Get behind him.

[solemn sun]

That's what I meant lol

[rough kindle]

Western Music Intensifies; but honestly, at least make a weak spot more visible on the frontal armor of the AT-2.

[plucky summit]

Cupola still weak :p

[kindred wren]

It’s actually not that weak

I mean, it kind of depends on who you face but anyone with less than 100mm of pen will see red

[solemn sun]

Just drive around it, ez win

[plucky summit]

76mm slits on it, and 101mm all around

[gritty tangle]

What

[stiff sedge]

when statlin plays world of tanks blitz:

[quiet heart]

holy, i have a 89% winrate in the kpfpz 70 over 46 battles

[stiff sedge]

this would be stalin's persenal tank if he wanted to use speed,powerful pen,scouting

[kindred thorn]

it doesnt have powerful pen doe

[stiff sedge]

if you know how to use it it does ;)

[kindred thorn]

Pen is a value
It's a value that cant really be changed by skill
Cause thats just the base pen of the tank

[stiff sedge]

oh wait i put the wrong gun on it :/

[solid gate]

It has weak pen with both guns

[stiff sedge]

bruh i meant powerful skill not powerfull pen sorry about that :/

[quiet heart]

does spall liner work against Hesh? I'm wondering if i'm running a cent 7/1 is it better to save credits and shoot regular HE at a waffle with liner or if i need to use the HESH

[midnight leaf]

just play it safe and use ap

[strange thicket]

Why would you not use the hesh.
Also i would suggest shooting it at targets that are worth it.
Not 0 armor tanks, use HE for that

[grand bramble]

Will they ever put the centurion mk5 raak in the store if so when?

[midnight leaf]

centurion 7/1 hesh damage: 440
against spall liner: 352

ap damage: 350

and hesh won't always fully pen

[rigid thunder]

uh, what? The only difference between ur prem hesh and standard hesh is less pen. You do not need an odd 200+mm of HE pen to deal with a WT that has absolutely no armour

[quiet heart]

obviously HESH is overkill on something like a wt, but i'm wondering if HESH bypasses the spall liner consumable, in which case it would do more damage than HE

[rigid thunder]

no it doesn't

[solid gate]

It’s HE why would it bypass it

[quiet heart]

alr then. thanks. I heard somewhere that the 183s HESH wasn't affected by spall liner but i wasn't sure

[plucky summit]

It it very much is, though I haven’t shot a WT or Grille who was using spall liner 🤔

[strange thicket]

That is not what i said.
You load hesh to shoot heavy sides and lower plates and to HESH mediums.
Not to shoot a WT with 0 armor

[fluid parrot]

Pure luck

[solid gate]

TD

[sacred trail]

It plays like a TD but it’s classified as a medium

Yeah, the main gun can only turn so far and every other cannon and MG is basically a dummy barrel

I mean, if the other machine guns could shoot, then that would drastically change the value of vehicles like the AT 7 that boast plenty of MGs and secondary guns, but only one main barrel

[trail epoch]

What Is Good To Buy It Back?
T49
ISU 152
T-54 Let
Tiger II
Ru 251
Emil1

[brave night]

Ru 251

[static harness]

T54ltwt and both heavys

[polar panther]

ISU but do make sure you have enough free xp for the t10 gun

[white river]

Give FV4202 mantlettttt

[lyric copper]

the mantlet is behind the turret

[white river]

funney is that it's still useless.

so i guess buff it's turret armor

because flanking with it is almost pointless if it only has 50 km/hr

[polar panther]

It is a good tank as it is now

[hollow lodge]

Is the phase 1 still being tested for balancing?

[polar panther]

Idk

[hollow lodge]

Alright

[sinful thorn]

Phase 1 is still on testing to rebalance

[hollow lodge]

Oki

[solid gate]

Should i choose kv2 or kv1 s, or both?

[static harness]

Finally bought the Chi-ri back
Great tank
Too bad that I haven't seen a single toptier match yet

[solid gate]

stock leopard PT A is the worst 9 tier med #changemymind

[lyric oriole]

Stock Centurion 7/1

Mind changed

Stock Leo PTA is miles better

[distant nymph]

stock tier 9s are pain in general

[earnest mantle]

The cent is as fast as a heavy tank, huge, has worse armor most meds, 190 alpha isnt going to dent heavies at those tiers,
Basically the worst tank possible

[manic carbon]

@hollow lodge It was in testing last update, and received some changes you can view here

https://blitzhangar.com/en/update/7-9

[urban girder]

Those IS better than KV-3?

[lyric oriole]

IS is much better than KV-3

You gain much better mobility and gun handling at the cost of marginal armor

[broken turtle]

all lol

[broken turtle]

but kv-3 can try to do a bit of hulldown with turret. With IS u always need to watch out ur cupola

[lyric oriole]

The rest of the armor on KV-3 is completely flat

[solemn sun]

What equipment do I need for the JPanther II?

[hollow notch]

Similar to this

this is what I personally would use

[solemn sun]

Ah ok, ty

[brave night]

Enhanced armor weird choice

[thick trout]

It helps against a few higher pen guns against the mantlet, it's personal preference really and how confident you would be in your positioning. As soon as you show the hull enhanced is useless and you want more hp

[hollow notch]

Friendly reminder: use spall liner

[charred vigil]

What should my equipment layout be for t-54ltwt

[lyric oriole]

This is what I run personally

[hollow notch]

Same, except I use enhanced tracks

[charred vigil]

alright

[frigid quest]

Enhanced armor is training wheels for is4/german superheavies and only viable in vk72 and prog 65, why would you need ea for a ltwt?

[lyric oriole]

Gives me useable armor I can rely on

[frigid quest]

the thing is: ea wouldn’t change things that much, the turret is still very bouncy with ea

[hollow notch]

You know what else doesn't change things much? A speck of hp

[lyric oriole]

How much HP the tank has matter, but 75 +1250 is banking on getting hit by high rolls only

[midnight leaf]

weegee be like:
sandbag armor

[lyric oriole]

LtWt actually had armor and mobility so the more troll it is the better I can protect myself

[hollow notch]

I that case, its worth it. Better than the 3% crew

[earnest mantle]

When you are on super low hitpoints you might disagree

[frigid quest]

hp will always come into play regardless, armor not so much

[hard cedar]

It's not like ltwt has no armor so it can make a difference

[frigid quest]

even if it has armor, ea would not make much of a difference

[final night]

Smasher Annihilator hybrid when WG

[thick trout]

The ltwts turret is pretty troll and EA adds to that, it's personal preference again but there's arguments for both sides

[sinful thorn]

Arl for penetration m6 for armor

[distant nymph]

Even though M6 can’t bounce anything past tier 5

[frigid quest]

arl, m6 is just a bad tank

[hollow notch]

totally necessary m6 nerf

[static harness]

can't have a tech tree tank that is as good as the premium version now can we
still waiting for the premium vickers light so that they nerf these annoying flies

[solid gate]

How to play ST-1 I want to be prepped for when I get it

[valid cedar]

How good is the Jg.Pz E100?
It seems to have amazing armour, like the E100, with a good dpm and amazing alpha

[thorny hull]

if you know how to play it properly then its really good

[hard cedar]

It's not good

[plucky summit]

It's far from useless, but its not on top of the game, good pub stomper, positioning well and making your shots count will let it all add up to be a nice tank

[valid cedar]

Doesnt the rly good armour and alpha make it strong tho? Idk im speaking from me getting ruined by jgs a lot

[solid gate]

Jg is a very good tank if it gets a nice position

Plus that depression that Jg has helps a lot in some situations

[hard cedar]

Good armor? Lower plate huge and if you load gold you butter through

[plucky summit]

Under your argument IS-4 doesn’t have good armor then

As a 183 player, I find that it serves me very well when I know how to position, and I believe Jageroo serves the same way

[solid gate]

It's all about positions

Btw it's a TD

They aren't always supposed to be on the second line or support

It depends on the map or team when you position them

[plucky summit]

Don’t use prammo as a citation for “bad” armor, it’s meant to penetrate effective armor, if prammo didn’t butter things, there’d be no point in using them

K ima go draw tanks for people

@deep ivy turret position?

[deep ivy]

Center

[plucky summit]

Alright then, it'll be around 30 minutes if nothing gets in the way

[plucky summit]

@deep ivy here is, gun’s hard to scale with but that’s it 😅

[civic ledge]

T34-3 needs a buff since chimera is better in every aspect

[plucky summit]

Or Chimera just needs a nerf

[frigid quest]

T-34-3 is fine where it is, chimera is simply overperforming

[civic ledge]

yes both answers are fine

[hard cedar]

shame premiums cant be nerfed

[thorny hull]

i agree, as t-34-3s can outcompete chimeras if the chimera user is bad at using that tank

[plucky summit]

Ok I mean that works for any tank...

[frigid quest]

the chimeras armor only works against tier 7-8 mediums that dont know what aiming or gold is

T-34-3s armor is a T-44s hull with a Type 59 turret

[polar fiber]

Stg needs a buff. T-34-3 would be broken if it was buffed. and stg is a mess

But t-34-3 could use a speed buff

[hollow notch]

T34 3 is basically the definition of an average tank. Leave it alone

[hard cedar]

if a premium aint broken it aint a real premium!

[solid gate]

Looks like a pimped out e100 hull with an maus turret, and an fv215b gun.

[hollow notch]

It's close enough to scale with the turret, the hull is just way oversized

[plucky summit]

I respect E100's thiccness

And I'm a bad scaler

I treat this channel kind of like balance discussion with less slowmode

[hollow notch]

You respect the e100's thiccness, but not the thiccness of the maus.

[plucky summit]

It's a bit long in my eyes

[hollow notch]

Long and thicc

[plain wagon]

What tier 6 do I need to play to get exp for the new American line?

[gentle wasp]

M6

[plain wagon]

Also when is the new line coming?

[gentle wasp]

8.0

[gentle wasp]

Vk

[distant nymph]

M6 is (confidently) the worst tier 6 tech tree heavy

[shell breach]

I agree that Vk is better

also Churchill mk IV.......its the best heavy for VI, good armour and reload

I know because i have it

[deep ivy]

@plucky summit thank you

[gentle wasp]

Assuming you mean the VI, not a chance. It goes 20 with a flat turret, meh hull, only 6 degrees of gun depression, and a below average gun

[shell breach]

The premium the mk

[gentle wasp]

Yea nope

[shell breach]

That is the hardest armour.........i saw a smasher using HE on it

[gentle wasp]

The smasher is sorely lacking brain cells to say the least

[shell breach]

But M6 is the easiest tank to destory

[gentle wasp]

My point wasn’t that the M6 is better, even if it is. The Churchill VI isn’t close to the best t6 heavy.

[shell breach]

no!

[gentle wasp]

If you insist on leaning on that armor profile the ARL is a hard counter, and in terms of tank performance the Vk 36 does everything better

[shell breach]

Vk and Churchill is the best we can fight in training room

ARL is okay.........but Churchill can defeat M6 with eyes close

[gentle wasp]

You’re confirming my suspicions now. A 1v1 is irrelevant and proves absolutely nothing about one tank being better than another.

[shell breach]

On ARL......but M6 is the worst

[keen garnet]

I have the Churchill Mk 6 and it IS good but it is no way near the best

[shell breach]

What is?

Sure its slow.......maybe Vk is the best but Mk blocks lots of Damage

[latent meteor]

ARL best tier 6 heavy

[shell breach]

Im going Vk

[gentle wasp]

I’m not denying the armor is above average, I’m questioning the effectiveness of pretty much every other part of the tank.

[shell breach]

Ok........i think Vk is better for speed and good Armour...mk can block damage even when it should take damage

[gentle wasp]

Fair point. That’s a more reasonable take.

[shell breach]

Ig........Vk is a vote to me......M6 ....no

[light blaze]

Does anyone know how much XP the tier seven is for the new American heavy line?

[solid gate]

Nobody knows the XP costs for the new line yet

[shut lily]

Is this normal? I have 2k xp on the panzer IV G but I have to research it again?

[solid gate]

No it’s anormal

[plucky rain]

You played the D.W. 2 or VK 30.01 H in the past?

[distant nymph]

Judging by other tier 7s - 60 to maybe 68 thousand experience

[peak folio]

What tier 8 heavy should i get the tiger 2 or the is 3?

[quartz gazelle]

Emil 1

[peak folio]

Maybe I'll get it if everyone say so

[onyx sluice]

Get the Tiger 2. It is overall the better tank IMO.

[solid gate]

^^^tiger 2 is mid tier when it comes to heavies Emil 1 is stupidly broken when in platoons

[knotty ice]

Jagpanther's engine is too weak fot its weight

[thick trout]

Both jagpanthers are pretty damn fast for their combination of armour and firepower...

[knotty ice]

Excoose me do u know that jagpanther's accelration is even slower than is7

[rigid thunder]

why are you comparing a tier 7 TD to a tier 10 HT? Plus, the IS-7 has a decent acceleration

[knotty ice]

is7 gets ammo rekt too much that i didnt grind it so idk it ok？

[rigid thunder]

uh, ok

[keen garnet]

I have been ammoracked like thrice in 300+ games
The IS-7 ammorack problem is highly overstated
I see more Soviet meds get ammoracked individually than the IS-7

Ammorack problem is a stupid consideration for a tank

The IS-7 is fun to drive (at least for me and many others)
You should really reconsider it

[solid gate]

Yea uwu

[keen garnet]

What you see is just the community focusing on the IS-7 ammorack more than any other tank
I don't blame them, it's a tank that everyone memes on
You shouldn't take jokes like that into consideration while judging a tank

[keen garnet]

UwU

[modern whale]

once again, I am asking for the PT-76

[spring dock]

Is T-22 well balanced?

[static harness]

"T22" and "balanced" shouldn't be used in one sentence

[rigid thunder]

T22 is not balanced

[static harness]

except there is a "not" before the "balanced"

[thick trout]

Actually it's marginally better because of better terrain resistances so it get around 1.5 extra hp/t

[stiff basin]

What if:
Not every tank, but T-22 is balanced. (or something like this)

[static harness]

That's what I'm always talking about
We don't need to nerf the t22 (or other op tanks)
We just need to buff every other tank .-.

[stiff basin]

Or at least don't add more OP tanks, powercreep will come for them

[tame jungle]

Power creep shouldn’t be balance, that’s what WG has been doing for years, balance should be balance

[shy wyvern]

Gib opinion about T110E4

Because it's currently being one of the sh TD to get

[elfin meadow]

sh?

[brave night]

Fun tank with okay armor that occasionally bounces with a fun big gun ok speed and semi rotatable turret

[toxic gust]

look at this monster

[past crane]

Low-tier tech tree rework changes I proposed on the forum, visualized (because I have no idea how to put in an image from my desktop into the forums). If you want to see the thread, click the link:http://forum.wotblitz.com/index.php?/topic/110522-low-tier-tech-tree-reworkpart-2reasoning-execution-and-additional-guns/page__fromsearch__1
More images coming every 30 seconds, lol.

UK

USA

USSR

France

Finally, China (didn't do European and Japanese nations because there aren't enough lines.

[hard cedar]

They said they aren't gonna undo 5.5 p sure

[past crane]

This isn't undoing 5.5 lol, I don't want OG tech trees back (makes newbs more overwhelmed)

[hard cedar]

(whole point of 5.5 was to not overwhelm newbies)

[past crane]

Also made it too boring. This basically is an interim solution, which makes it easy up til Tier III. Basically just moves the Tier IV TD split down one tier and Tier III TD's will get nerfed from their current state.

More skill in low tiers = less noobs in high tiers = better experience for all.

It will still be gradual in terms of ammo types and provisions as it is now.

[hard cedar]

Shame that's not how wargaming thinks

[past crane]

it is terrible lol, but at least we can dream...

Was going to put it in balance discussion, but 15 minute slowmode go brrrrrr

[hard cedar]

yes slowmode annoying

[shy wyvern]

A bad word 💩

[elfin meadow]

oh

[cerulean fog]

Tournament team captain says is3 for choice, vs is6 which i beleive is as good, neither compete with obj 252, but which is a closer counter, played both, wz112, 110 not mentioned, what is the closest anti obj tank if you dont have obj, love to hear

[elfin meadow]

something that can circle it. i recommend almost light tank. the only one thats bad against the 252u is the t49, due to its bad pen, and only having HEAT and HE

[brittle cradle]

This would be annoying

[brave night]

They won’t add wheelies for a long time if they do

[onyx sluice]

5.5 was a mistake. Get in a battle now and you see the same tanks over and over again, every single time.

A couple of days ago I was in a game with 5 KV2s, three on the enemy and two on mine.

[static harness]

Saying that like this is not what ww2 looked like

[onyx sluice]

I play Blitz as a fun arcade game, not a historically accurate simulator.

BTW how many Smashers were produced during WW2 if we're going there?

[static harness]

I was talking about the "same tank over and over"
But well

[thick trout]

Yes I'm sure with a limit of 4 heavies per team you totally 100% saw 5 KV2s

[brave night]

Bro 4 kv5s would be epic in one team

[onyx sluice]

I clearly said 3 on the enemy and 2 on mine.

[solid gate]

Not to mention EBRs were meant for big maps and their presence in our game would just be... Useless.
For WoT PC, it may be a new needed thing to bring players hence they have giant maps.
On Blitz, we have lights and that's enough imo, no need for EBRs/Arty.

[onyx sluice]

Arty would be fun though, especially if you could play them as direct fire derp.

[clear bobcat]

Im pretty sure it means "should have"

[solid gate]

Reccomended equipment for IS-6?

[clear bobcat]

🤦 reread it

[thick trout]

And the chances of that happening with 3 heavies per team?

[low rampart]

Artie's could be possible only with bigger maps, otherwise why not use an actual tank.

[kind pasture]

In blitz please

[kindred thorn]

this is a joke

[kind pasture]

In blitz please

[midnight leaf]

121b
already exists

[plucky summit]

Depends, what's the competition for?

[pseudo tinsel]

ahoj

[plucky summit]

Debatable.

You see, they have vastly different playstyles and they are one tier apart, so they're hard to compare

[kindred thorn]

youve got 110 pen though
yeah sure the speed kinda sucks even with upgraded engine

[plucky summit]

110mm of penetration is very sufficient, and it's pretty medium in mobility

Judge a tank when you have all top/usual modules and 100% crew

E100

Then why you ask? >:(

If only he could pen

You you need E100 to almost be nosediving for a pen on the deck

E100, after long enough

If the Pzs are smart, yeah he doesn't have enough shells

[clear bobcat]

grille

[plucky summit]

Maus wins

What are they gonna do? Barbecue him?

[clear bobcat]

yes they will barbecue the mouse. ez claps

[kindred thorn]

its 15 grilles they can either spam HE or just rush to the sides/back of his turret/hull

[plucky summit]

Dang, but I bet 15 Grille 15s would beat the 15 Grills

[clear bobcat]

e 100

[plucky summit]

The E200

[kindred thorn]

t8s

[clear bobcat]

thats hard

[plucky summit]

t8s, two medium t8s can dispatch a Maus ez pz

Well, I can't count two CDC's as medium tanks, they're honestly light tanks

No... it doesn't?

lol, Maus doesn't have Op consumables

[kindred thorn]

What "perks" does maus have
other than great armor and all that other stuff

[plucky summit]

It's just armor and HP, that's it

T8

[kindred thorn]

2v7 bruh

[plucky summit]

Having numbers is a great concept, especially against TDs

[clear bobcat]

maus

[plucky summit]

Nice edit

T8 team\

[kind pasture]

No, it's the Type 59 Gold, he is already in WOTPC

[kindred thorn]

At that rate it depends what t8s you have

[plucky summit]

I say once it strikes 4, it starts depending on composition

[clear bobcat]

e

[plucky summit]

Smashers

[clear bobcat]

e100

smasher will spam HE, and E100 will have enough hp

[plucky summit]

Bruh but if 7 Smashers load HE on an E100, they're gonna splash him to death in one go

[clear bobcat]

how much hp does an e100 have

[clear bobcat]

ok so if you ahve 7 smashers, not every one of them will shots the same e100, so the smashers won't kill any of the e100s in one go

[plucky summit]

When HE splashes, it find the thinnest plate to damage, since the deck exist, ez splash damage

[plucky summit]

One way or another, the E100s can't use their 7 gos to kill the smashers in time

@solid gate armor.wotinspector.com, I use the website

[clear bobcat]

on the other hand, if each of the e100 shoot one of the smashers, it dies.

[plucky summit]

All three would have to do it, they simply don't have enough time given they're gonna be dying one by one

And if the Smashers are aggressive enough, HEAT's going in

[clear bobcat]

but not all the smashers will target one E100

[plucky summit]

Then who's to say the E100s will all target one Smasher?

[clear bobcat]

when using HEAT they will do less damage, and they simply won't be able to overpower the e100s

[plucky summit]

They won't do less damage than splashing HE, and they literally have 7 152mm guns, they can really cripple

[clear bobcat]

how long is the reload for both tanks ? i forgot

[plucky summit]

Smasher - 15.16s
E 100 - 14.49s

[clear bobcat]

good, but the enemy wasn't very good

lmao lttb got most dmg 🤦‍♂️

[plucky summit]

Fun fact, E 100 has double Smasher's engine power

[clear bobcat]

how much better armour

[plucky summit]

Slightly better reload time, the 7 smashers would win

[solid gate]

That is a huge stretch

[clear bobcat]

who you think will win? 3 e100s vs 7smashers

I say a better chance

[solid gate]

It’s down to player skill like all examples. As much as the smashers penetration is tier 9 worthy 300-295 which is tier 10 medium standard can’t even penetrate most of the time and smasher needs CS to even get near 275 which sacrifices reload while e100 can pen everytime and force them to make quick decisions

[plucky summit]

Alright, consider the DPM at play
Smasher splashing a low 250 average - 6,926
E 100s penning AP, averaging 640 - 7,953

Now the HP
Smashers - 10,150
E 100s - 8,760 with IA

[plucky summit]

Armor inspector says CS does nothing to splashes 😳

I believe it does anyways

[solid gate]

Its almost like I said it sacrifices reload @plucky summit

[plucky summit]

It's easy to kill mammoths with enough hunters

[clear bobcat]

the e100 would rush and kill the 4 smashers in the front, and will take care of the samshers beinhd them due to engine power

[plucky summit]

They'd take a solid 56 seconds to pull that off with perfect focus fire

[clear bobcat]

yeah and even if the smasher beind get off a clean shot on the e100, they won't be able to take out another one in the time

[plucky summit]

Only the front too, assuming none of them die in the process

[solid gate]

Smashers AP is incredibly bad anyways meaning they’ll always need to use gold

[plucky summit]

But sure, maybe the Smashers have no idea how to abuse HE splash mechanics and decide to shoot the lower plate

[clear bobcat]

and gold does less dmg

[plucky summit]

In a 1v1, Leopard 1 wins, classic outmanuevering

Obvs the 2 IS-7s

They get more HP and control then

[solid gate]

E100 also gets 90 plus pen if it runs CS but without it it’s still 80+ meaning it can pen the smashers sides

[plucky summit]

You never mentioned HE tho =(

The three Leopards, don't think 1 tier 10 with decent skill will beat three tier tens with even less skill

Also armor inspector says decent variations in HE pen doesn't determine the damage unless in extreme situations, aka armor blocks HE of that caliber or HE pens the armor

I will admit though I haven't looked that far into HE mechanics

Anyone know what determines sheer armor thickness to block HE?

Assuming only that single plate is there

[plucky summit]

Which one?

Retry that one

Ah, ok, yeah it's OP

No, the armor is fine

[solid gate]

Who watches clickbait while they play

It’s bad for a reason

[plucky summit]

Take cover

[kindred thorn]

chimera is like one of the most op t8 meds

[solid gate]

I love mine plenty of up

Op

[iron galleon]

Will obj 907 be better than T22?

[solid gate]

It has 3.1k dpm right now so no

[stoic bronze]

Hay folks, do you guys know how to master T57h? Just grinded it and bought it.... It turns out to be a nightmare...TTtired_face
The pen, armor, mobi and concealment...

[gentle wasp]

The pen is great and the armor isn’t terrible. It’s pretty much all about the gun, you need to figure out ways to utilize the burst damage and minimize the reload.

[upper flint]

When will 121b be on sail again

[woeful pumice]

Balancing the yoh

[kindred thorn]

ayo where do you get minimap mods like that

[woeful pumice]

I made it

[frigid quest]

it wouldve been very good with its very high dpm but the dpm isnt good rn

[clear bobcat]

is about 350 battles and one tier nine with other tier five tanks good? I have a new account and that is my stat

[unreal hornet]

Give me the link for that mod

[neat nimbus]

ok if anyone ask about the is-2 event well it starts in friday and no i dont leaking it was confirmed on the official twitter account

[elder remnant]

How good is the Vulcan tank

[gentle wasp]

not good

[rancid slate]

Hi I'm new, and I was wondering if you had any advice for me and my close combat AMX ELC BIS

[hard cedar]

dont go down amx line as a beginner

[rancid slate]

Well poop, well at least I have a wall known as the T-1 Heavy

[kindred thorn]

e5 line is good for beginners yeah

[rancid slate]

Thx

[iron galleon]

So that's a good point isn't it?

[iron galleon]

So it won't be meta now?

[frigid quest]

its not, 907 would just be a worse vickers, it needs russian med dpm and not 105 dpm, the 907 needs like a 5.4 or so second reload

[hard cedar]

3.1k dpm worse than 140 62a and t22

[plucky summit]

With gun rammer, it's currently 3.4k DPM on blitzhangar, you have seen it in testing?

@solid gate

[solid gate]

@plucky summit supposedly someone said the planned change was 3.1k I heard

[plucky summit]

I think that's a bit too outlandish to be fine with WG though

[solid gate]

@plucky summit take it with a grain of salt I’m skeptical about it but this is the only mention of it I’ve seen

[plucky summit]

I believe they equipped CS on it, because with CS, BH says 3,161

[hollow notch]

Yea, 3150ish is the base Soviet med dpm

[plucky summit]

But it's arguably best in class for concealment, and very good general mobility

We're taking a 140 and making it cooler

[hard cedar]

No tank can be cooler than a 140

[iron galleon]

Uh oh. I had huge expectations from it

M-6-YOH is nerfed now so even it is not meta?

[plucky summit]

900 burst is still pretty special, especially when retaining 2.5k DPM

Wait my mistake

Ok now I'm just sad

[hollow notch]

Whats wrong with it?

[plucky summit]

I accidentally used DPM stat from the 3 shot

[hollow notch]

Why are you sad? 900 alpha with 2.5k dpm.

[neat nimbus]

i dont need cuz i have the tank

[plucky summit]

Because it isn't 3.1k xD

[hollow notch]

Yes, but they decided to keep 10° of depression on it.

[plucky summit]

That is kinda hot

[hollow notch]

I'm looking at it as a 183 with all of its problems solved

[plucky summit]

But Yoh doesn't have OP HESH >:)

[hollow notch]

The HESH is just more points of failure.

Hmmm, 930 guaranteed damage or 500 and a track

[plucky summit]

Even with my tendency to use HESH, my shot efficiency is 100.67%

[fast compass]

Lets give it a nickname, eclipse 2, not as powerful as a deathstar but it will mess your day

[hollow notch]

I'm not saying never use hesh, just that it often does more harm than good

[plucky summit]

I beg to differ with my CS ;)
I'm pretty patient with my shots tho, so yeah I could just waste a bit of time debating which shell to use

Especially when I see E100 hulls

[hollow notch]

I know that if I loaded 100% ap, I would preform better.

but why the heck am I playing a 183 then

[plucky summit]

Fax, I play 183 for the dopamine

[ebon tide]

I have 2 questions;

1. how much does the maus legendary paint cost?
2. how does the maus legendary paint look line?

Pls ping wen respond

Also if possible, how much does the paint cost when on deal (when u get the tank it usually offers u the legendary paint for a discounted price)

[iron galleon]

Haha lol

[solid gate]

https://images.app.goo.gl/6WXBSBuBgkNZxXPf6

You have too legendary camps but I think the real one is maus legionary. It looks like that

[vague oar]

Help me with a comet guide.

[lost abyss]

How can i use SU 152 effectively?

[thorny smelt]

Probably like KV-2

[lost abyss]

Mm hmm

[solid gate]

Ferdinand or jagpanther 2?

[gentle wasp]

JP II

[solid gate]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

Skorp g* (that was meant to send after this

[gentle wasp]

Before some primate wants to point out that the Ferdi performs better on WG balance charts, that is from RU server where the fact that prammo butters any “armor” that the Ferdi has is less relevant. Also the charts aren’t close to conclusive evidence anyways. So please don’t even.

[keen garnet]

JP 2, Ferdi is basically a slower JP 2

[keen garnet]

Huh I always thought the gun were the same
Apparently not

[gentle wasp]

It is the same gun, the JP just gets better stats for it.

[solid gate]

Ok thanks I will take the jp2

[thorny smelt]

If you go for Sturer Emil, you know that its genetics go back to Pz. Sfl. IVC

[solid gate]

I have a question, when will the poodle be in the game will be a tree premium tank or what?

[median atlas]

Which line is the best med line in tech tree ?

[hollow moth]

For begginers: E50M
For experienced: T-62A
For competitive: avoid using meds on competitive

[wise moth]

TVP and T-22 are pretty decent competitive tanks tho

[median atlas]

Bro im talking about tech tree tanks

[violet timber]

TVP is a tech tree tank

[median atlas]

T 22 is a tech tree tank ??

[hollow moth]

No, but TVP is @median atlas

[median atlas]

Ik

[frigid quest]

Any Soviet medium, STB, and TVP are competetive and the T-62 is newbie friendly though the tanks before had hull armor while the T-62 doesn't which may make bad habits hard to get rid of.

Vickers is used in most cases though.

[hollow moth]

It's competitive until a heavy comes?

[kindred wren]

Pretty much

[limpid marten]

Ferdinand is a tiger P and Jpanther 2 is a tiger 1. Basically

[thorny smelt]

🤔

[kindred thorn]

except ferdinand's armor is not good for its tier

[thorny smelt]

Paper armor

[flint eagle]

Why does ferd do better then?
Slow tank = resistant to yolo?

[kindred thorn]

slow tank = very weak to yolo

[candid harbor]

it does better at being liability to team

[valid cedar]

Which crew skill goes best with the y5 firefly (t6 limited time prem med tank)

[median atlas]

Sus

@candid harbor sus

[candid harbor]

@median atlas suuup neeerrddd

[solid gate]

About to research st-1. Heard that stock version sucks really bad

[regal timber]

yes

[latent meteor]

Free xp modules

[violet timber]

Don’t play ST-I stock if you enjoy your sanity

[plucky summit]

Don't play stock tanks at all? ._.

[violet timber]

Some tanks are decent stock, but others are absolutely garbage

[solid gate]

Matilda stock made me want to crush my skul into a brick wall

Had to free xp my way thru bc id have lost my sanity if i had to grind for the sherman

[stiff basin]

but matilda is a tier 4, not like ST-I which is a tier 9

[hard cedar]

^ it takes like 140k free xp to get the top gun and turret on the st i iirc

[manic carbon]

Fully stock yeah, you really don’t want to be playing it with that 122mm D-25T

[strange thicket]

That is why you save at least 300k fxp before buying a t9

[solid gate]

Still sucks when youre only getting a few xp here and there bc youre easiest to pick off bc slowest

[hard cedar]

300k what no tier 9 requires 300k to get top modules

[strange thicket]

IS8 took me 150fxp or something like that.
And i like to have some left overs in case i start grinding a line.

[scenic galleon]

I want artillery added in the game

[violet timber]

Arty would be an absolute joke

[solid gate]

yes

[lilac umbra]

Is the is6 worth it

[rancid slate]

Any advice for a moron with a su-100 that is setup like a T1-Heavy
(I hope this is the chat for this type of thing)

[lyric oriole]

Second line, make sure you use the 122, be sure to not expose your lower hull, your ammo rack is very vulnerable

[rancid slate]

Thanks, usually whenever I play with it I just ram people for extra damage, back up, fire, and ram again

[plucky summit]

Keep your distance from everyone :p

[rancid slate]

I have it setup for close combat. Bit only 1v1s if there is more than one enemy I need back up

[lyric oriole]

It's not a close combat tank

You will lose most one on one fights

[rancid slate]

Ya your probably right, but it's funny to kill someone in close combat with a su-100 even if it is rare.

[plucky summit]

Well, advice is advice

[rancid slate]

Well thank you I'll try and find a way to turn it back into a sniper. And I'll do it with something that's made to do close combat

[plucky summit]

Don't? o-o

[solid gate]

Do not camp in a heavy

[valid cedar]

^^^
happens too often
and as a mauschen player seeing heavies camp makes me feel very sad

[noble delta]

Just came back over, what is current meta tanks in clan wars?

[manic nymph]

Ikr it is just uh feels weird

[valid cedar]

it pisses me off
cuz it makes us lose the match for such a dumb reason

when the hts camp, the meds or sometimes tds go to the frontlines, and thus die
what often happens if ur hts camp is that ur team gets shredded and the last one standing is a camping ht at full hp, at least from my experience

[ebon tide]

Does the maus legionary Camo ever go on sale?

[lavish epoch]

super pershing hull is spaced right?

[lyric oriole]

On the front yeah

[solid gate]

Just bought one crate wtf. This is called luck

[golden wagon]

well congrats

[solid gate]

That was the first tank crate i bought btw. i was going for the free xp found in it

[thorny smelt]

The map is too small for SPGs to join into the game

[regal timber]

sheridan missile but worse from a non-spg standpoint, and worse from an spg standpoint, youd get spotted the minute you fired, or a light would spot you within 1 minute of game start

[scenic galleon]

Doesn't matter get bigger maps duh

And i don't want any of the so called facts or hate comments my opinion is my opinion and no one is changing it

[potent igloo]

so yall are gonna add this cursed object right?

[hard cedar]

armor is meh

[prisma fox]

just get is5 for 1500 gold if u want an is clone

[gentle wasp]

It’s not an IS clone though

[solid gate]

Plays the same as the others but it’s not painful like is6

[thorny smelt]

Any reviews or insights for FV201 (A45)?

[latent meteor]

Is6 > is5

[gentle wasp]

^
@thorny smelt get a black prince instead

[thorny smelt]

I suffered with Churchill already

[runic nacelle]

pain :(

[neat nimbus]

wow wg this is the worst thing made so far

[hollow moth]

Loot boxes? I agree

[solid gate]

Whoever thinks the T20 is trash is crazy. It's fun af

VK 30.01 D tho, that thing is the definition of crap

[candid harbor]

the design?
looks much better than previous one

[gentle wasp]

Visualizing the drops definitely makes it more appealing

[candid harbor]

you can even click eye icon to check out the tank
kek

[gentle wasp]

Fancy

[neat nimbus]

doesnt tell the % chance of getting the rewards (i dont getting free xp booster and credits as i need them very badly hope wg doesnt give me the super pershing or other tank)

[solid gate]

That’s been there for a bit

[candid harbor]

we comparing old layout to new one

[candid harbor]

you can earn a lot more credits via premium tank than getting credits...
you can even sell garbage like supa Pershing

[neat nimbus]

i actually have the maltida bp and eagle 7

[hollow moth]

If I was a garbage bag and you called me as Super Pershing, I'd be very offended

[candid harbor]

i am sorry
i should have mentioned dumpster fire instead
my bad

[hollow moth]

You're welcome. Don't say the SP word again, it's a forbidden word now 👀

[candid harbor]

yes chef, sorry chef

[hollow moth]

👀

[neat nimbus]

well maybe i would sell this someday (or when i get a ace mastery)

[dusky stirrup]

That tank is really a great tank for me. Hulldowning like the M6A2E1's turret.

[neat nimbus]

im gonna sell maybe the matilda bp and churchill gc

[dusky stirrup]

Well... Both are my favourites. Maybe not your favourites.

[neat nimbus]

is hard for to get rid of those tanks

what i have to do for deattach those

[sudden terrace]

tier VIII is so unbalanced
i just got ISU 152 and only 1 win in 6 battles

im downloading war thunder

[rigid thunder]

And war thunder is totally balanced,

Said nobody

[ocean lantern]

How good is the victory and isu 122s deal? Should I hold of and wait for the Jagdtiger 88 deal?

[abstract path]

Someone tell me how to play the grille

[golden wagon]

the cromwell b and rudy is a better deal by far but the victory is just for collectors

[thick trout]

The best thing to do is try and keep your distance from fights until you are used to its mobility. You want to keep the gun in as much use as possible because it's absolutely lovely so that means if you don't have shots on someone you should move to a different position. Also you definitely want to run spall liner. Once you get more used to the tank you can take it more aggressive letting teammates take all the hits and trying to get shots in without trading.

[abstract path]

Thank so much, I've been trying to figure how to play it for half an hour now

[topaz crater]

T34-100 really thats horiblw

[golden wagon]

ive wanted the victory for years but isu 122 is preventing me from buying, what do u guys think

[kindred wren]

ISU-122 is not worth it, just play the SU-152 with the 122 if you want the experience

Meh, I just checked the bundles and while I think it’s decently priced the Victory + ISU-122S bundle is not a great combination

If you really want the Victory go for it because the price is good for both tanks, but otherwise I wouldn’t recommend buying the two

[golden wagon]

i wish they would actually sell just the victory itself but they havent over the years :/

[inland osprey]

Is it worth running the aim buff consumable on the Grille, or should I just run double repair kit instead?

[stiff basin]

double repair kit imo

[manic carbon]

I personally run double kits, and of course the spall liner

[inland osprey]

aint spall liner a standard loadout for this line lol

aight I'll run double repair kits, the modules break too often even with spall liner

[violet timber]

Spall liner doesn’t protect modules, it just lowers HE damage

[stiff basin]

I don't run adrenaline on tanks like Sheridan because DPM is not the thing you want to improve. I also don't go for adrenaline if the tank has special consumables

[manic carbon]

ok

[stiff basin]

I'm using speed boost all the time but i'm thinking of not using it that often on tanks like T-62A because your speed is your top speed usually

[onyx crater]

self-propelled artillery TAM VCA PALMARIA

[sinful thorn]

Is the bundle with bromwell and rudy good?

[frigid quest]

Victory is a tech tree version with worse pen for DPM (still mediocre), ISU-122S is a better SU-152 with the 122mm but everyone uses the derp on the 152. Chromwell B is very good and the Rudy still holds up in tier 7

[sinful thorn]

Actually victory has almost same stats with triumphant

[violet timber]

Yes, both tanks are pretty good. Bromwell is one of, if not the best T6 med, and though Rudy has been powercrept, it is still good

[frigid quest]

Yes, the Rudy is very fun with the dpm it has and the chromwell b will help you in tier 6 tournaments if your clan were to do one

[sinful thorn]

Thanks guys. Lets burn 6.5k golds

[slow pulsar]

So it's hard to pick these two tanks. XD

[lyric oriole]

What would you like more?

[slow pulsar]

More damage i guess.

[frigid quest]

go for the Ho-Ri line, both have mediocre grinds either way

[lyric oriole]

^^^^ This isn't true

The Ho-Ri grind is very easy

The toughest one will come at the stock Ho-Ri Type 2 with it's mobility but once you max it out it's fantastic

[frigid quest]

chi to spg is strong, but so is alot of tds, Ho-Ri T1 is bad, and the Ho-Ri T2 isn't special

[lyric oriole]

The tier 8 Ho-Ri Type 1 is solid it's a balance of armor, mobility and a fantastic gun

[manic carbon]

Im currently at the Ho-Ri II and I love it.
I do bounce quite a few shells, just gotta do a little wiggling and angling

[lyric oriole]

The hardest part on the Type 1 is the stock gun

[frigid quest]

You might of enjoyed the T1 but objectively, meh. Gun is average, armor isn't too good, and it isn't very fast

[lyric oriole]

The gun has Premium AP shells

That already puts it miles ahead of other same tier TDs

As for it's mobility it's actually pretty mobile

And you have one of the better camo ratings at about 4th over all for tier 8 TDs

[high anvil]

Hey, I need help with the E3. I’m pretty frustrated because I know it’s objectively a very strong tank, I had 60% winrate in the T28 and 65% in the T95 but somehow I have 40% winrate in the E3 over 50 games and I don’t know what I’m doing wrong

I’m running enhanced armour on it and still getting zero bounces. Heavies seem to pen me frontally across the map with zero issue when we’re sniping. If I get up close I get penned as well. Only way I get a few bounces is when I hulldown, but even then every 3rd shot or so seems to pen, probably prammo at my cupola

Over those 50 games I’ve tried different things. Slight angle, no angle, up close, from afar. Nothing seems to work. Angling is dangerous because people will pen side and damage ammorack

[blazing bloom]

M-V-YOH looks kinda funny

[high anvil]

I legit get more bounces in my Foch 155 than in the E3. And I’m frustrated because whenever I’m playing against an E3, I’ll shoot prammo at lower plate or cuppola and bounce, so like, ????? how does everyone pen me frontally so reliably?

I watched hisroyalfatness E3 tutorial before playing my first game in it, doesn’t matter, still 40%. Idk how I can suck so bad in this OP tank. pls help

[hollow moth]

Chill, sometimes we can strugle to play certain tanks and it's normal. The T110E3 have only 2 weakspots, one is the lowerplate and the other is a real small thing which is HEable for high callibers.

All you need to do is a hulldown and your tank will be almost invincible

[slow pulsar]

If there's philippines tanks it would be awesome.

[blissful hamlet]

Conqueror stock haves a cruel life

[frigid quest]

Every stock tank has a cruel life

[silent marlin]

Nah, we basically don't have, save for a few
interwar (20s and 30s) Renault FTs
M2 light tank
M3 (and/or M5) Stuarts
some M4 Shermans (stock cannon and turret)
M10 and M18 TDs
M7 Priest SPG (which is just a turretless Sherman hull with a howitzer)
M24 Chaffee
M41 Bulldog
FV101 Scorpion CVR(T) that can't be classified as tanks sometimes due to newspaper armour

So yeah, we're basically in American tech tree line
Sauce: a fellow Filipino

P.S. would be cool tho if there's a legendary Philippone camo

[blissful hamlet]

Except Foch

[frigid quest]

50% crew, and you still have tracks and engine to research

[wise moth]

Why are you playing with a 50% crew....
Also, Obj 704 only needs to research its tracks lol

[frigid quest]

masochism and being broke

[blissful hamlet]

Yeah, but you don't suffer with the weak gun, paper turret

[silent marlin]

BTW would it be a good idea to bring in the Sherman 105 as a sort-of slapper in Tier V

[blissful hamlet]

Idk too, 75% crew isn't too expensive to get

[frigid quest]

no stock tank is objectively good, people who are crying about st-1, leo pta, e50, etc these people are not unique in any way imo

[blissful hamlet]

FV301 stock isn't completely bad

[frigid quest]

it may not be bad compared to other stock tanks but is it objectively a tier 8 tank stock? No its a tier 7.5 at best

[blissful hamlet]

Probally, but the definition of masochism is Strv-74

[hushed shadow]

It’s good to just save up credits for the equipment, consumables, provision, ammo, as well as the crew, and the tank cost itself. It’s a torture playing on 50% crew and a bit of torture playing without equipment, so just don’t buy a tank until you get all the credits

[brave night]

usually like 25%-33% extra from the cost of the tank is a good number to go off of

[hushed shadow]

I used to struggle with credits but never had 50% crew. That was more painful than just not buying and playing the tank until I had all the credits

[blissful hamlet]

Sheri Missile is a funny credit eater

But really eat credits

[hushed shadow]

Use boosters and premium time and do all the events and you’ll earn enough credits to cover all that cost

[blissful hamlet]

I use it when I have it, but even so without firing too much, it ended up being destroyed and I lost about 12,000 credits

[hushed shadow]

You can make 10k with common credit boosters. You get those free quite easily. And there’s also the premium time you get from clan missions, and premium tanks that aren’t too hard to get, free from crates or through an event. All that and the credits from the battlepass more than covers up that cost

Just play a premium tank when you have premium time active. Grind enough credits so that you can play tier X tech tree tanks for a while

[blissful hamlet]

Yeah

[kindred wren]

Just play without provisions and prammo; easy credit fix

[blissful hamlet]

Sheri Missile + gravity mode burn credits but is really funny

But a have a lot of Premiums to earn credits

By the way, in the previous battle pass, without playing with any premiums I got 4KK

[nova heron]

Stock st1 cupolas are non-exisatant??

[plucky summit]

Missed left

[gentle wasp]

you can see the shell hit the ground behind the tank

[plucky summit]

They didn’t claim ghost shell tho, they claimed ghost cupola

[nova heron]

Its inside the outline

[plucky summit]

Hitboxes aren’t always where hitskins are

[gentle wasp]

replay

[plucky summit]

And now that I’m checking Blitzhangar, it very well could have been an overshot

[hard cedar]

Dang didn't realize st i stock turret was that bad

[plucky summit]

Granted they’re using an Obj. 704

[hollow notch]

That doesn't change anything

[plucky summit]

I thought they meant the armor

[hollow notch]

Exactly

[hard cedar]

i did mean armor

[brave night]

It can bounce but like

[plucky summit]

@solid gate sir, the meme said Ho-Ri since 399 AP penetration is more effective than 418mm of HEAT penetration

[kindred wren]

It’s inside the outline because the shell travels from the center of the screen. You took the picture too early while the shell is still in front of the tank. Had you taken the picture when the shell is at the tank it would be outside (or on) the outline

[solid gate]

Does Vk72 play like VK45B? I ended up love the 45B so thinking to buy 72 if they share same gameplay?

[brave night]

Vk 72 is a brawler

[simple tide]

Is the t 54 mod 1 worth it? I’ve played against it a few times and it seems like a worse t 54 ltwt which I already have.

[frigid quest]

Its a ok tank with decent armor but the turret is pretty weak, slow, and a very mediocre gun

[simple tide]

Yeah looking at it statistically Seems worse than the T 54 ltwt in almost every way lol

But I guess it’s not taking into account the hull armor Which doesn’t seem too strong either

[frigid quest]

The hull armor works decently when angling but people dont angle so any tier 8 with a clue of what gold shells are will cut through the armor

the mod 1 is a good collectors piece but if you want a good medium, wait for a better tank

[simple tide]

Alright thank you

[golden wagon]

i can pen emil 2 even with medium tanks at tier X

[brave night]

Emil 2 has a 1200 clip at t9 which bullies t8s and the turret works against equal and lower tiered opponents

[hollow notch]

Why don't we just make the kran a tier 9 and call it a day

I can't tell if you actually took that seriously or not

And it kinda scares me if you did

[hard cedar]

That's his point, that the turret armor is bad...

[brave night]

How about we remove the nerfs wg did on it

They nerfed the dpm

[tardy arrow]

emil 2 is already op

[brave night]

I loved the Emil 2 so

[neat nimbus]

do i buy it or no

[latent meteor]

Imo, gold for warpaint is too expensive

[solid gate]

It's up to you, personally if i really like the camo I buy it.

[stiff basin]

Sheridan's camo is an attachement change my mind

[candid harbor]

no
it is a pool floaty

[thorny smelt]

Does anyone tried the Challenger? Is it good or bad?

[stiff basin]

it's average, but Charioteer is just great

[thorny smelt]

I'm adding a few TDs aside from the German ones

[stiff basin]

For TDs, the best grind and tier 10 is obj. 268, T110E3 is great, but T28 and T95.... yeah...

[thorny smelt]

I might avoid higher tier ones like VIII to X without sacrificing much of my credits

I mainly play like just for fun or completing the missions for the day

[stiff basin]

For tier 7, the best ones are SU-152, Jpanther, T25 AT and St Emil

[thorny smelt]

I have JPanther already. I might get that SU152 soon

[sudden granite]

Thoughts on the OBJ 260?

[stiff basin]

Seems balanced, don't buy it in crates anyway

[wanton quiver]

Buff armor FV215b

[manic carbon]

Buff what though.
In my opinion, if you buff the front of the hull, it will be too strong

[stiff basin]

sides

[wanton quiver]

He doesn't have armor

[thorny smelt]

Does anyone still play that toaster TD?

[stiff basin]

Nope, I have so many new tanks that I don't play it

[thorny smelt]

Dang Flak bus is the most overpowered tier 5 TDs

[white hedge]

Buff IS-7 ammo-rack durability when?

[brave night]

Doesn’t need it

[plucky summit]

Doesn’t need it

[grave haven]

guys for the AT2 line witch crew skill should i research first?

[plucky summit]

Just go for precision fire, since it’s the best skill overall imo

BUuuUuUt if you want a TD skill then I guess the deadly accuracy

[grave haven]

waittttttttt i thought only TD skills applied to TD

[kindred thorn]

No
All crew skills apply to all tanks

[fast compass]

Yeah all skills apply for all your tanks. You can only train a specific class skills with that class only. So td skills are trained using tds. But light, medium and heavy tank skills also come into effect while playing tds

[grave haven]

oh wow thank you TDIL

[lyric oriole]

@grave haven get Camouflage, not Deadly Accuracy

Deadly Accuracy is the most situational of all the TD crew skills

Camouflage is arguably the best of the entire crew skills list

[regal timber]

camoflage and that 33% max roll one I would argue

as a batchat player it really helps secure a 1K hp clip

[lyric oriole]

Deadly Accuracy is still useful, the effects are fantastic, it's just extremely situational

The least useful of the skills is Close Quarters Combat Master

"Top turn rate"

Can you explain?

[regal timber]

As someone who doesnt play Supremacy, Fast Capture is pretty useless

[lyric oriole]

It's not super useless because it does stack with other people who have it so it ends up being less situational

No it's not

I need to make a tier list for crew skills, Fast Capture is probably High D or low C

It works for all tanks yes but the bonus isn't high enough to make it take the top

The Accuracy crew skills are far more important

[regal timber]

Out of curiosity, whats your opinion on mentor, I have it at level 5, and still have most of the heavy and 2 TD skills to max, is it worth maxxing mentor to 7?

[lyric oriole]

Get it to level 5, then get everything else to level 5, max out mentor, then max out everything else.

If you are F2P it will greatly help with stock crew grinds

[regal timber]

alr, thanks

[lyric oriole]

It doesn't matter because it's a medium skill not a TD skill

[fast compass]

Doesn't mentor give bad returns after level 5? You spend more time getting it to 7 than you would save by getting it to 7

[lyric oriole]

After 5 it does but that's why I specifically said free to play only

Before I started golding 90% of my crews it was a nice boost

Especially with crew EXP boosters now it's much better

Still low priority, easily C

T29 wins

[fast compass]

Yeah i have mine already to 7, i thought I was missing something

[lyric oriole]

Dumb question

[keen garnet]

Depends who are the TDs

[lyric oriole]

Tiger 1

[keen garnet]

Tiger 1

[lyric oriole]

Not even close

Significantly slower for worse overall armor and flexibility

[thorny smelt]

Tiger 1 FTW

[thorny smelt]

T29

[lyric oriole]

Also you get a massive cupola on Tiger P

And massive lower plate

I just showed you it doesn't

The fire power is identical but Tiger P has worse accuracy

[thorny smelt]

IS-2 Pravda SP still available?

[hard cedar]

No

[manic carbon]

It doesn’t have armour. It has a lower plate, cupola and the mid front plate is largely flat as well. Also side armour meh

[hard cedar]

Well the side armor on most heavies is meh

[lyric oriole]

Ah yes

I pen it in a tier 8

And suck at aiming at the other one

[manic carbon]

IS-5 with its potato launcher

[hard cedar]

Then you're not aiming, go for the tiger p lower plate it's an easy pen every time

[thorny smelt]

it's all about the aiming bud

[lyric oriole]

Or the cupola, which takes up about half of the turret

I wish I could

If only Tiger P had Mobil- oh wait, tiger 1

[hard cedar]

What is that supposed to mean 🤔

[lyric oriole]

That is with fuel

Now all You've done is given Tiger 1 an edge on fire power

And still out manuevered

[thorny smelt]

It's all about how you play bud.

[lyric oriole]

And I play smart unlike some people

[lyric oriole]

There is literally a reason to not play one over the other

Is-4 is literally babies first tank in the meta right now

It doesn't require much thought to play

[thorny smelt]

I just don't based on stats, I learn from it

[lyric oriole]

And what I learn is One Is better than the other

[manic carbon]

I’d rather fight a Tiger P than a Tiger I. A Tiger P is so much easier to fight and play around

[lyric oriole]

You can't say "4 > 5 because I've known 4 for much longer in my life and I'm partial to it" when the value actually matters

[thorny smelt]

Whatever suits your play style

[lyric oriole]

I'd rather fight VK 100

Less HP, turret is in the middle which forces it to expose more of the tank to fire

[valid cedar]

Is it me or is the t95 rly op for t9? Has super good armour and a super high alpha

[solemn sun]

Tier VI engine is pain :L

[solid gate]

the speed isnt really good

[valid cedar]

But still once the td gets in the right spot the armour and alpha is crazy

[brave night]

Um no it has cupolas and gold spam hurts it

[valid cedar]

I dont think being able to pen with prammo should be used as a decider to whether armour is good or not, since prammo is literally designed to pen super thick armour.
Yea there is the cupola but its pretty small and hard to hit, especially if the t95 is aiming from distance and cover

[brave night]

It’s also really slow

[solemn sun]

RNG loves me :)
Cupola goes boom

[brave night]

Cupolas are quite easy to hit actually

[solemn sun]

Not from 200 meter distance :L

[brave night]

From 200m I can just pramo the lower plate

[valid cedar]

For some tanks with a long aiming time its not, and since t95 is a td i would imagine it would stay a quite long way back
Also, consider things like the mauschen and e75 having a cupola and consider that similar armour

Again, prammo isnt a very good measure to decide whether its good or bad armour imo, Imem you could say u can pen a maus in the lower plate with or even without prammo therefore its armour isnt great

[brave night]

For a tank that relies on its armor pramo is good measure

[valid cedar]

I still think that not everyone in a team would be willing to 'gold spam' as its rly expensive unless its ratings or toruneys, but I guess i get ur point.
Since its bottom plate is penable, it can hulldown too to hide it

[brave night]

Point is I can pen the front of a historically classified super heavy with pramo it’s super slow has no turret and cupolas

Maus has a chance to wiggle and bounced a couple but the t95 is like the e100 u just can’t

[manic carbon]

@valid cedar Its very situational. But once you get into a good situation, it’s pretty good. Unfortunately all the other times it can feel like a dread and hinderance

[midnight leaf]

ok then

1v1 it as a pz iv

have fun.

[valid cedar]

Wut

[brave night]

That relates to this how that’s a t5 vs a t9

[midnight leaf]

'historically classified' ah yes everything has to be historical

[solemn sun]

Annihilator is very historical

[brave night]

Umm I was just saying that irl it’s classified as a super heavy I don’t see a problem

[solemn sun]

It's not even called a T95 smh

[midnight leaf]

most tanks are supposed have strengths and weaknesses
@solemn sun its called a t28 i think

[brave night]

Ik and what does that have to do with it being classified as a super heavy

[solemn sun]

yes, you are tank nerd 👏 👏 👏

[midnight leaf]

ok

[brave night]

I’m confused how saying it’s a super heavy = every thing needs to be historically accurate

[solemn sun]

The excitement smh

[midnight leaf]

you are implying that if it was historically accurate you wouldn't be able to pen the front with apcr, correct?

[brave night]

I never said anything about that

[brave night]

All I was saying is that I can pen the front of a classified super heavy and td that relies on its frontal armor quite easily not anything about what it should be

[hard cedar]

I feel like everytime someone brings up realism stupid arguments happen

[brave night]

Ikr

[midnight leaf]

what did he expect by doing that though

[hard cedar]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[brave night]

I never said it needed to be historically accurate… all I was implying is that it’s a heavily armored tank I can pen easily form the front wtf

[solemn sun]

you said "wtf", that's illegal 👀

[midnight leaf]

now you're also gonna get muted

[solemn sun]

rip

[valid cedar]

I get what u mean ngl

[solid gate]

alright im done with my friend he has grinded the e100 line and he sucks at a 1v1 against me and now he is saying the e100 line sucks and that german tanks suck and that the german nation shoudnt exist in wotb so pls can someone tell me how good the e100 line is and how good the german nation is. i always play russian tanks against him in his german tanks and he just keeps complaining that germany is trash in this game

[solemn sun]

Becuase he's trash, ez

[brave night]

not muted yet am pro

[bitter blaze]

On a scale of 1-10 how good is the E50M is since I'm thinking of grinding it

[violet timber]

I’d give it a solid 8/10. It’s not the best med line, but you get good armor, above average guns, and decent mobility.

[bitter blaze]

Sounds good to me

[solemn sun]

And you can ram very good

[violet timber]

Hehehehe gotta love it

[solemn sun]

Rip light tanks

[manic carbon]

@bitter blaze its a really nice tank to go for

[valid cedar]

Ngl as a mauschen player for 1v1s the german superheavies can be eh cuz of low dpm, a key thing abt hts and particulalry the german super heavies is that they rely on teamates a lot: i.em as a mauschen i block dmg for my teamates so they can fire behind me, my alpha is alright tho nothing amazing with 14s reload speed.
So solo german hts may be eh unless u play it so ur almost impenetrable

Again these are just my thoughts, i could be wrong but

[tame jungle]

What Russian tank

[solid gate]

Is4 and is7

[tame jungle]

If you say Is4 he’s completely right, the Is4 is unbeatable vs an e100

[solid gate]

if i facehug with is7 he also cant win

[tame jungle]

Is4 and is7 have extreme turret armor, and I’m assuming your face hugging him. He has literally no chance vs your bs top turret armor

[solid gate]

on the is4 he can hit the hatch tho

[tame jungle]

Lol no. Maybe if he doesn’t get screwed by the rounded armor by accidentally missing by half a degree, his only chance for consistent damage is HE

Do you own the E100 or even the maus

[solid gate]

no

[tame jungle]

Then let me show you what he sees

His gun cannot reach that lower plate in a facehug, and those cheek weakpoints? More errors then anything else

[solid gate]

but look on the right on the is4 he can hit that tho

[tame jungle]

And this is with the JGPZ, a tank with WAY more pen

[plucky summit]

Geez, CS? You crazy

[tame jungle]

It literally doesn’t matter, he might get a single shot if he’s lucky, meanwhile all you have to do is look at his turret and shoot

[solid gate]

yeah

[tame jungle]

Now you see the power imbalance

German super heavies cannot face hug tanks who’s turrets come up to the top of their hulls

[solid gate]

yeah but it still sucks that my friend complains that im way better and he says that all german tanks suck ;-;

[hollow notch]

Don't mind me as I push a is4 into a vertical position for ez HE roof pens with my maus

[solid gate]

IS-4's roof is HE pennable? Holy shit didn't know that

[plucky summit]

30mm at the more rear part, the front is 75mm

I literally just checked

[hollow notch]

Ez

[frigid quest]

You do not even have to get a elevation adavantage on a IS-4 do HE pen it. The back of the turret can get penned by 152+ HE and cheap HESH

[plucky summit]

Yeah but in a facehug this is your only option, unless you're a 183 and then you just go hit the IS-4 cupola

[frigid quest]

I do not know a tank that is this tall

[plucky summit]

Someone mentioned using Maus to prop them up onto the slope of a hill

[hollow notch]

It's sad when they missed the absolute meme that you can do with a maus

[solid gate]

Is 4

Better armor

[plucky summit]

2 IS-7s, again, two tier 10s always win against one in a fair situation

[candid lark]

UNLESS experienced player playing maus

[plucky summit]

Meh

[hard cedar]

Maus doesn't have the dpm, unless the is7s are completely clueless maus will lose

[sturdy bane]

luckily most IS-7 players are

[hard cedar]

😬

[plucky summit]

That's a statement.

[sturdy bane]

🤷‍♂️

[plucky summit]

Ah, right.

gg

[prime vale]

Can wg plz buff the m46 in someway.

[candid lark]

lol

[plucky rain]

Lol 279e looks like a goldfish

[earnest mantle]

No
It's the best tank on its line
Its gun is good enough and its mobile enough

[plucky summit]

I fail to see that interpretation

[prime vale]

It needs a shell Velocity buff

[plucky summit]

Imagine

[solid gate]

Is it wrong of me to love the t92e1 more than the t49 derp

The derp was absolute horrible in the t49

[strange thicket]

Nah t92e1 is just great

[hard cedar]

Nah gun handling off the t49 is horrible

[hollow notch]

Hating the t49 is pure blasphemy

How dare you