vehicles-discussion

[golden shoal]

The kpfpz 70 is a great premium

[frigid quest]

You cannot get wrong with Germany and USSR in general, here are some best lines to grind

Heavies: IS-7, IS-4(get it after IS-7), E100

Mediums/Lights(gain some experience first): T-62A (140 isn’t as easy to use but some players prefer it), E50M, maybe WZ-121

TDs: Object 268, Jg. pz. E100

[quiet heart]

if you're new to the game, don't buy a high-tier premium tank. You won't know what you're doing but you'll be fighting experienced players and your team will probally call you out for it (no offense). The best purchase you could make is probally premium time or saving it until you get a better feel for the game

[golden shoal]

I mean, I buy premiums in advance if that makes sense. Like in world of warships I bought the Alaska and Massachusetts, tier 9 cruiser and tier 8 battleship respectively. They are no longer for sale and will sit in my dock until im ready for high tier combat

[kindred thorn]

Both of them are op lol

[golden shoal]

The Alaska and Mass?

[kindred thorn]

Mass has great secondaries, alaska is a great super cruiser

[golden shoal]

the secondaries got nerfed to oblivion and secondary builds are no longer viable at all

[kindred thorn]

Well they are only usable on german ships really now
cause of the dispersion buff they got there

[golden shoal]

not even on german ships lmao

[charred vigil]

Fools you must play the mighty soviet ships they are clearly superior to any other design

[golden shoal]

Yeah that was until they nerfed the heck out of the Kremlin cause of salty CV sky pigs

[charred vigil]

But the Moskva

[kindred thorn]

stalingrad :troll:

[golden shoal]

just take away stupid CV and youll have a dope game

[charred vigil]

I’m pretty new to wows but dam is sinop a good bb at t7

[modest ocean]

How long it took u guy to get maus?

[analog vigil]

14 hours from VIII to X

[foggy spade]

pls nerf wt auf pz IV this is too op good gun good camo good reload and this new provisions this is too op imo

[static harness]

Nah
Waffle is completely balanced
said no one ever

[misty tide]

does spall liner decrease the chances of crew and modules of breaking?

[stiff basin]

I think no

[ancient ingot]

Waffle is balanced. Super easy to use HE against anyway

[calm drum]

Vendel#5290 has been warned.

[tame jungle]

Hahahaha not anymore

[inland osprey]

Now I don't even bother shooting HE at those tanks

Not worth the risk of splashing to deal the same amount of damage as AP

[trail epoch]

Is Emil 1 Good?

[neon python]

Yes

[brittle snow]

Nowadays i just wait for someone else to shoot HE so i can tell whether or not to fire it

[stiff basin]

on some tanks it's still worth it

[solid gate]

I got the kpf and some premium time

[onyx sluice]

Hope you enjoy it.

[verbal pier]

finally

[bitter shore]

Is the AMX 13 75 Just like the AMX 13 90????

[hollow notch]

With a a bigger gun, but yes

[bitter shore]

I'm losing credits so bad

[kindred thorn]

from what

[solid gate]

Judging by his load out and credit count he bought the tank without thinking off his economy...

[bitter shore]

@solid gate yeah, I've been playing this game since I was six or seven I believe and I still don't have a tier x surprisingly. So it's an accomplishment I've been playing this game for many years but it sucks that I am failingg from time to time

[winter oar]

For some reason my mind keeps on telling me that this looks either a super hero or anti-hero.

[hollow notch]

Looks like a toy tank that you get with those little green and tan soldiers

[fresh vine]

I love both tanks, the main differences from the 13 75 to the 13 90 are:
Longer reload
Slower
Better gun elevation
Bigger magazine potential

[empty lake]

Are even the upcoming tanks (except the battlepass) are all but fictional tanks and no more historical?

[solid gate]

No they are historical terrifyingly enough their related to the big brain concepts the US had after nuclear energy was being investigated

[past crane]

Yes, they were proposals in 1953 I believe. The Yoh company designed 7 concept tanks, 4 have made it into the game.

But they have nothing to do with nuclear energy. Oddly these were designed as mediums, not heavies, but I feel they work better as heavies after looking at the concepts.

[copper swan]

What about Ho Ri line?

[winter oar]

I find this tank [M-VII-Yoh] somewhat funny and interestingly unique.

[frigid quest]

ho-ri t1 and chi to is garbage, chi nu is not forgiving, chi to spg is not a sniping td

[copper swan]

I consider Ho Ri tds have above average armour frontally than some tds

[plucky summit]

Some™️

[copper swan]

Though their guns have troll accuracy sometimes and the sides + rear are very weak

[proud harness]

Obj 907 with Legendary camo 🙂

[copper swan]

Second IS 7 coming
Ammo rack explosion sounds

[plucky summit]

It's a weaker, DPM IS-7

[past crane]

Chi-To isn't bad actually after the buffs.

[solid gate]

Bruh I could be in a coma rn and this is all my imagination

[onyx sluice]

Tips for the Skoda T25?
Also, can you reload the autoloader magazine if there are I or 2 shells left?

[solid gate]

Only for tanks with guns with larger than 122mm caliber. That rules out every medium, all lights including the sheridan line, most heavies beside vk 72, e100, maus, is7, the wz 111-5a and its tier 9 version, the kv2. Tds aren't affected as much because they usually have a large gun.

[wise moth]

Yeah, you can reload by either double tapping the selected ammo on mobile, or by hitting the C key on PC

[stiff basin]

I mean, sheridan line has one of the best HE in burst radius, and if you know where to shoot, you can fire someone with like 50% chance.

[warm gazelle]

at first he is a bad guy and then a big battle happens and he becomes good guy

it is basically loki

[onyx sluice]

Thanks.

[stiff basin]

Is Tortoise and AT-15 workable?

[stiff basin]

wow it's been more than 1 hour and no one responded me

[distant nymph]

many questions go unanswered for days. I do kind of enjoy the AT-15 (not because of the amor, it's horrible) but bc you can permatrack stuff and have DPM for days

[stiff basin]

ok, what about the Tortoise?

[manic carbon]

You can make the tank work, it’s not totally awful, it’s just in a mediocre position really

[stiff basin]

Ok thanks, I thought its as bad as Centurion 1 and T28

[distant nymph]

ey, T28 is fun

[solid gate]

Bruh, its just so slow.

What you need to do with this tank is, once the enemy is detected, go towards them. Stay in a flat position, and start annoying them with your shots.

That's how it works. In middle of a city for example. If possible, make sure there isn't meds or light tanks coming from the other side.

[distant nymph]

pretty much the same things to worry about on the doom turtle

[stiff basin]

But T95 has some armor

[spark basin]

640 alpha gun to boot aswell

[manic carbon]

T28 prepares you for the problems of T95. A little worse mobility, but is more resilient with its HP pool and armour profile. The 155mm is nice as well

[lyric flume]

You not in coma

What will happen to me if he wake up from coma

Will i die

[solid gate]

Yeah, but with spall liner it's better to shoot ap with sheridan, since its gun has lower dmg then regular 150mm guns.

[lyric copper]

AT-15 yes

tortoise is a weaker jagtiger

[stiff basin]

ok, so not too bad?

[lyric oriole]

Tortoise is too bad

Armor: Nope

Mobility: Nope

Profile: Nope

Module Placement: Nope

[lyric copper]

it dreams of being the tortoise from PC

[lyric oriole]

DPM: Yes

Best in class DPM: Not even close

Camo rating: Nope

Penetration: Mediocre

[lyric copper]

HE pen: 120mm nice but not much chance to use it

[lyric oriole]

It has the 3rd worst Penetration of it's class

It's tied for the worst Alpha

Foch, Stock Conway

It's tied for the 3rd worst Module damage

It has the worst penetration loss over distance

Combine that with slow and it's a huge problem

[lyric copper]

but both foch and Conway have mobility/ turret which means they can actually do stuff

[lyric oriole]

Which is part of my point listing them

Tortoise is the second slowest tank, and the 3rd slowest reverse speed

It has the 2nd worst P/W ratio so it doesn't even reach it's 20kph quickly

It is the Biggest tier 9 tank destroyer

6.76m×4.00m×2.59m

It has the worst camo rating while still and while moving

Sorry, second worst

[lyric copper]

what’s the worst

[lyric oriole]

I'll find out in a moment

[stiff basin]

oof

[lyric oriole]

For module Placement, the LOADER sits in the weakspot, when the only thing this has is DPM

And keep in mind crew injuries are not effected by Robustness

[lyric copper]

lovely ingenuity of British design

[heady mesa]

Oh dear that poor tank

[stiff basin]

Why did I decided to grind this line.....

[lyric oriole]

Conway has the worst camo rating in tier 9 for every camo stat

[lyric copper]

my thought is that this line exists to throw off people who want the 183, which itself is mediocre at best

[lyric oriole]

It's good with a skilled driver

But in the hands of a newbie it's not so good

[heady mesa]

183 is pog

[lyric oriole]

183 is a tank that requires a lot of precise actions supporting your team

[heady mesa]

Have like 1.1 k battles and I think a 56 wr (in the 183)

[lyric oriole]

The HESH is a trap, I find my most successful games I use mostly AP in it

[lyric copper]

British tier Xs I consider good:

FV4005 (skilled driver)
VL

11k (career) and only 48% despite my actual winrate being 55% @heady mesa

[lyric oriole]

Frankly all of the tier 10 Brits require a very skilled driver, FV215b is the least of those but with it's current status it's still not a great heavy over other options

[heady mesa]

My most successful games involve hesh spamming, but that's because I know where to cheat penetration with weakspots

[lyric oriole]

I know where they are too, but too often getting greedy causes losses because of waiting for the perfect shot

[heady mesa]

I just say god save the queen every shot, works every time

[lyric oriole]

The difference in alpha is generally not enough to cause a major difference unless you high roll both shots

[lyric copper]

worst thing to happen is when your AP rolls higher than HESH

[heady mesa]

Hesh always mega low rolls for me

[lyric oriole]

The AP normalizes very well against tanks which makes is a good alternative to the Ho-Ri in some cases

[lyric copper]

has side of a Jpz E100, loads HESH, deals 1.1k

pain.mp3

[heady mesa]

Yeah, one shotting a full hp t30 is where it's at for me

[lyric copper]

most time when I shoot tanks with spall liner I load AP, or cheap HE

[heady mesa]

Depending on the caliber, you should still use HE, if you have like a 130 or above caliber, use HE even if they're running spall, it's because the difference between ap and HE is much bigger

[solid gate]

@lyric oriole I don’t get why they haven’t even changed the loader from there

[lyric copper]

that’s where the guy would sit irl

[solid gate]

Because a commander and loader doesn’t even sit there it’s a dedicated gunner

[solid gate]

Ooga booga VK 36

[neat nimbus]

how we can get free keys

[full briar]

@neat nimbus You can't

[neat nimbus]

dang

i wont spend gold on crates

[neat nimbus]

i wish wg revamp some legendary camos or add attachments to some historical stuff such as machine gun or spotlight

[lyric oriole]

Those already exist

[plucky summit]

Comes base for the IS-7 ;)

[neat nimbus]

i meant on ones already exist but some lacks of details as lowe and kv-2

[plucky summit]

Lowe too hot, no need for attachments :p

I would prefer if the camo was a bit more vibrant on it though

[neat nimbus]

look at this jgdpz. e100

[plucky summit]

Understand that we can't let the game get too graphically enhanced

[neat nimbus]

as well wear the cover used by german to prevent the mines get stuck

we need this as a legendary camo

[spring stump]

Yes

[river garden]

imagine in rl if the allies can't se this

[bright sentinel]

does anyone know when the BT-7 art. will come back?

[solid gate]

I have leopard 1 and Sheridan missile. Right now I have KV4 and VK100.01. Which line should I grind? Thanks

[midnight leaf]

grind vk xp while you still can

[trail epoch]

Hey guys I was thinking buying a T29 any recommendations or tip?

[lyric oriole]

It's busted

It's a scoot and shoot tank

[plucky rain]

How to play D.W. 2?

[rigid thunder]

sell it

[lyric oriole]

If you've played E 100 play it like that in tier 4

It's kinda hard to describe

[plucky rain]

Because this

Do I have to install blitz from steam or just make a steam account?
I'm asian server btw

Though I already have the D.W. 2

[lyric oriole]

Install blitz from steam

Sell DW 2 before you get it

You won't get compensation if you already have it

[plucky rain]

Steam works well in Asia?

[rigid thunder]

yes?

[neat nimbus]

i didnt get the stuff

[plucky rain]

What is even good about the VK 72.01 K line? Convince me that it isn't garbage

[wooden crater]

relative to the same tanks in the e100 line, the t8 is much worse, the t9 is slightly worse, and the t10 is 50/50

the t8 is a bad heavium that takes up a heavy slot in MM, but has more hp
the t9 is not much worse than e75, it's slightly better at sidescraping but loses ~10-20mm effective all around and has the disadvantages of a rear turret in situations other than sidescraping
the 10 is basically a choice between consistent, but flat and prammo-able armor or troll armor

[coarse terrace]

i think yes because it requires launching the game a few times via the dlc

[swift trout]

Idea for fun premium vehicle you can earn in an event
So the KV-4 Top turrets cupola
Thats the turret for this tank
You have troll turret armour yet strange mantlet weakspots
Weak lower plate
Strong sides
Imagine a smaller KV-1 hull
I call this tank KV-0
Tier 4 collector

[onyx sluice]

I wish "smaller" caliber HE shells were buffed.

[inland osprey]

Yoo the Type 61 is actually very fun, the gun is just amazing

[tame jungle]

Another update, another ferdichad W over the jpanther 2

[midnight leaf]

you get free e100 gun i think

[grand bramble]

I spent 10 dollars on 5 keys and got the wz 120 1 f in the second box I opened

[gloomy crypt]

What's the calibre of the gun on the DW 2?

It looks like a Panzer IV with a long 75mm

[violet timber]

Unfortunately no, the guns are different

[hard cedar]

e100 has shorter reload I think

[bright wigeon]

yes, E100 has shorter reload.
VK 72's main "selling" point is the frontal armor, but once you angle a little bit your tank, it becomes vulnerable

[covert scroll]

wheeze I like how every other tank is HD graphics, then this Tank comes in with Potato graphic

[midnight leaf]

potatotonk

[static harness]

makes a photo of the screen instead of a screenshot

[pseudo marten]

Bro can anyone help me get the DW2 - I have the dlc but my PC crashes 😭

[brittle snow]

Wot? A dlc? With the Dw2? Nani?

[pseudo marten]

Or is there a way to link my steam to my WG account and run it on mobile?!?

[somber hawk]

so the T8 is basically the same as AMX M4 45?

[brittle snow]

More like pre buff tiger 2

[wooden crater]

The t8 is a pre buff tiger that traded away its top gun for mobility
Then the tiger got buffed

[brittle snow]

Honestly buffing the gun and maybe the mobility would make it viable, or upping the turret face so it could hull down a bit

[low rampart]

@somber hawk I'd say it's even worse than the Amx M4, which at least has a good gun to give you exp for advancing in the line.

[full tiger]

This tank is good?

[midnight leaf]

yes, but not for log

[brittle snow]

Worse version of the VK100.01P imo, same cupola weak spot but with an added weakspot behind the tracks

[midnight leaf]

cupola is smaller tho

[wise moth]

VK 168 is more or less the same as VK 100. There's no real substantial differences between the two tanks.

The guns are basically identical, and the tanks are also basically identical in mobility. There are some minor armor differences , like VK 168 turret is stronger than VK 100 turret when angled, and VK 100 has a slightly stronger hull, but really, these differences are negligible

The only real tangible difference is that VK 168 makes credits. That's about it

[midnight leaf]

if its cheaper to just enrich your vk100, should I just enrich the vk100 instead of buying the 168

[wise moth]

168 is only 5k gold iirc, which is cheaper than enriching the VK 100 I'm pretty sure

[hollow notch]

The vk100 is definitely better (weakspots are smaller) but the 168 is still decent at doing the exact same thing.

[wise moth]

@hollow notch Actually, head on, the VK 100's lower plate is about 8% larger, and the cupola against 225 AP is about the same size as the VK168's cupola (albeit 168's cupola is like 20 pixels smaller), and against 265 APCR, VK 100 cupola pennable area is 33% larger

Again, there's no real appreciable difference

[full tiger]

Thanks for opinions

[solid gate]

Is the T32 good?

[wise moth]

Yes

[gentle wasp]

the T29 can pretty much do anything it wants because it's stupid good

[lyric oriole]

^^^

Its a jack of all trades master of all

Few things will win trades

It has better hull armor than pretty much every tier 7 heavy with good base mobility, solid Penetration, busted consumables, and good view range

[sudden plover]

I see lttb fly through enemy lines scouting every one and fleeing to safety. When I try I take 5 hits immediately and explode. Is it just luck when lttb scouts that way? Or am I missing a crucial skill?

[hard cedar]

do you have the top engine

[sudden plover]

Yeah, I've researched everything, 2 food and fuel

[hard cedar]

dunno then, when I did that in my lttb it went well most of the time

the top engine should give enough mobility to make it hard for most enemies to hit, are you going at them head on

[sudden plover]

Negative, I work the flanks. And use accelerator and double repair. I think I just need to practice my lines and keeping behind cover

[hard cedar]

yeah if you're out in the open the entire time it won't go well, also don't scout if you're spotted already you'll get wrecked

[sudden plover]

Thx for input. I'll keep at it

[neat nimbus]

One of best tier 7 was buffed on front hull armor

I still have it I remember was on of my first tier 7 tanks

[hollow notch]

I still don't understand why they thought they needed to buff the t29

several times

[midnight leaf]

add ELC EVEN 90

[solid gate]

R my tanks good?

[broken sentinel]

No? You bought them all...

AMX-30B is alright, but I doubt you have the experience needed to play it well
KpfPz. 70 is a similar situation as the 30B
Panzer 58 is just mediocre in general and again, you need experience.
Kanonenjagdpanzer is good but you, again, lack experience
Gravedigger is just a freebie that's really situational

[plucky rain]

If you don't have good ping and connection, playing lights and mediums is not recommended

[wooden crater]

^what he said, all those tanks are either mediocre or unicum tanks

[plucky rain]

Drive up a wall and get wrecked when bad connection?
How about actually bouncing a few shots in a heavy or not being hit while sniping in a td

Disclaimer: Doesn't apply for heavily armoured assault tanks or heaviums with rubbish armour

Which tier 10 premium or collector is actually worth it to buy if it comes to shop?
Note: I am a tank destroyer player, trying to learn heavy and medium playstyle
Your supportive assistance will be appreciated, your unhelpful comments is not needed

[frigid quest]

vk90, amx54, and maybe super conq, i would not recomend the mediums even the t22

[plucky rain]

Hmm

[frigid compass]

i had super conq and sold it with no regrets after 170 or so battles, it just wasnt for me

[plucky rain]

Do you recommend the badger, and how good/bad is that tank?

[broken sentinel]

terrible idea, they can always buff/change tanks

[frigid compass]

not really because the VRT exists

[frigid quest]

badger if you want a bunker that can hulldown as it has decent dpm and good penetration but the tank is slow and riddled with weakspots

[broken sentinel]

VRT?

[frigid compass]

i can get it back in 2 hours with enough gold

[broken sentinel]

It's worth twice the amount of gold you sold it for, that's just a waste of money

[frigid compass]

#general-blitz-discussion message

[frigid quest]

super conqueror is better than a lot of premiums/collectors but the gun is pretty disappointing

[plucky rain]

Where are the weakspots for badger?

[frigid compass]

i got it for like 5000 or so gold in crates ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[frigid quest]

lower plate, the bulges on the hull and maybe the whole tank with enough penetration

[broken sentinel]

Yeah, and it costs you gold to get it back, you have to pay full price for it

[frigid compass]

it costs 7500 gold which is the price i sold it for ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[broken sentinel]

it's a tier 10 collector, which is usually 15k

[frigid compass]

its 7500 gold to restore mate

Collectors restore for the same price as the sell price

[broken sentinel]

sure, you still shouldn't sell those

[frigid quest]

you can get the badger for fun but its kind of a joke when used competetively

[frigid compass]

meh idc

[rigid thunder]

people can spam HE at your face, and you'll take damage like a t110E3

[frigid compass]

it gives me gold to invest into a tank that i will actuallly enjoy playing

although it lacks the funny t110e3 weakspot @rigid thunder

[plucky rain]

What are the good t10 premiums and collector tanks in blitz at the moment?

[frigid quest]

vk90, amx54 for outstanding ones and t22 and super conq for above average ones

[rigid thunder]

all of them can be classified as good tbh, none of them are actually bad. Maybe the badger though

[plucky rain]

What about M60?

[frigid compass]

M60 is just an M48

[rigid thunder]

with some small differences here and there

[frigid quest]

m60 gets better armor and gun handling for even worse concealment and side armor, get e50m or stb instead

[plucky rain]

Ok

Grinding E50M line, any tips?

[rigid thunder]

free exp the stock E50

[plucky rain]

30 second slowmode is annoying ngl, would rather 20-25 second slowmode

[plucky rain]

Still at Panther

Kinda struggling playing the 183 for now

[rigid thunder]

the stock grinds of this line are very disgusting, you might want to save ur fxp for the panther II as well ngl

[plucky rain]

I have some ×5 bonus

Also some ×3 bonus

[rigid thunder]

then you should ne fine, the Panther II and E50 are good tanks imo. Both have good guns, mobility and armour

[frigid quest]

panther 1 is borderline op, panther 2 is ok, and e50 is decent

[plucky rain]

And E 50M?

[frigid quest]

its a good tank with good armor, 60km top speed, and very good gun handling but acceleration is pretty bad and armor is riddled with weakspots. E50M is also infamous for its ramming capability

[rigid thunder]

take care that your base dispersion is amazing on the E50M, but on the move dispersion is garbage. No fancy russian snapshots for this tank

[plucky rain]

Refined gun and chocolate provisions doesn't help?

[rigid thunder]

The on the move dispersion is 0.14 (double food), and 0.12 with vstabs. Running refined gun will never improve your on the move disp. more than vstabs will anyways

[modest ocean]

Is it worth to buy maus skin?

[keen garnet]

It's not worth to buy any camo unless you are planning to spend quite a lot of moneh

[modest ocean]

Or spend it if u rich

[keen garnet]

Eh, I personally would not recommend it but if you like it go ahead

[modest ocean]

I won't buy it but i will save for seomthing good in future

[fluid parrot]

Wishing the Leo 1 ingame had 120mm/L44 gun option for 60k+ exp points

400+ dmg, same 250+mm pen but lower dispersion and reload

[weak canopy]

can i request the removal of the t54e1 or buff it way to much to where it is decent?

[rigid thunder]

you can request it, but I don't think the E1 needs much changes right now other than giving it HE

[charred vigil]

Very sexy leopard maybe wargaming should add it as a premium variant xD

[wise moth]

I'd give T54E1 350 alpha. As long as it has 310 alpha, it's just a crappy Skoda T50

[covert scroll]

Shut

[plucky summit]

Poor DW2 is big old

[lyric copper]

agreed

[mortal ember]

Anyone agree that wotb needs to lower the xp needed to grind for obj 268?

[lyric copper]

no

[mortal ember]

y

[lyric copper]

25% discount gang

[plucky rain]

50% lol

Is the grille 15 line a good line to grind now, given it's recent new consumables?

[west bridge]

Hey guys, i have a question: will BT-7 Arty ever come in shop?

[manic carbon]

There’s always a chance it will make a return to the shop

[west bridge]

I agree, yes.

[muted grotto]

Imagine a Kv2 with a derp autoloader

[astral lotus]

They would have to nerf the aiming more to make it balance

[solid gate]

Buff caenarvon damage pls 😌

[distant nymph]

Or just give it the 32pdr and turret armor buff it has on pc to make it a bit like a T32

[latent hemlock]

How does everyone else feel about the panther/m10? It's quietly become one of my favorites

[lyric oriole]

It's terrible

[pale maple]

It's probably the worst or at least one of the worst tier 7 premiums in this game.. I enjoy playing it however.. sorta

[manic carbon]

Panther I exists

[latent hemlock]

Hmmm interesting. Didn't expect that

[manic carbon]

Panther/m10 has been bad for a very long time

[lyric oriole]

Frankly it's been bad since it was added

I believe the only buff it's ever gotten since I played was a buff to the hull traverse and minor dispersion factors, and like 2 years ago a pen buff to 160 for AP

I always loved to see them in my SU-152

[manic carbon]

I haven’t seen a Panther/M10 in so long

[stiff basin]

If I reseach Conway, will I get top Tortiose's gun?

Or I need to grind 75k exp in an almost stock Tortoise?

[plucky summit]

Yes

[stiff basin]

Yay, less time spent on tortoise then, thanks

[manic carbon]

That’s something you’ll enjoy. Many of the guns are shared across the British lines

[stiff basin]

Yeah, that's what I thought, I just wanted to make sure that it will be less pain. That's why it's good to grind FV4005 first

While FV4005 line is fun (charioteer is my favourite) FV215b 183 line is so bad (I enjoyed AT 15, but probably because it's gravity)

[plucky summit]

183's line being bad is good

Also when you get the hang of 183, it's addicting

[manic carbon]

Deathstar line was one of the first lines I did alongside FV215b line. I failed pretty hard in those tanks as a noob

[plucky summit]

To think my 30d in 183 is 60% 2.7k

[manic carbon]

I barely touch 183 anymore, but I spammed both the 183 and 215b as a new player. Think around 2000 battles in 183, 1400 in 215b

[plucky summit]

Ouch

[midnight leaf]

nice prediction

[somber hawk]

Even more are trough Russian lines, but yes

[drifting shell]

Which line?

[stiff basin]

What playstyle do you like?

[drifting shell]

If

I like good armor and firepower idk

[midnight leaf]

e100 is for you

[drifting shell]

Is Maus also worth it?

[hard cedar]

Maus has meh firepower

[tame summit]

Armour of Maus when side scraping tho

[shadow heron]

but op amor. imo

[hard cedar]

yeah but he want armor + firepower

[tame summit]

Oryt

60tp is a decent choice

[midnight leaf]

e100 is a pretty nice combination of armor and firepower

[manic carbon]

Going towards the E-100 is your best bet. It’s also a pretty friendly line

[midnight leaf]

you're lucky you dont have to endure the pain of stock tiger 1

[mighty tinsel]

Prammo can easily pen. your turret but otherwise it's a pretty good tank.

[drifting shell]

K thanks a lot🙂

[plain wagon]

When is the new American tech tree coming out?

[frigid quest]

probably in like 8.4 or much later

[plain wagon]

Oh rly?!

Man that’s a long time

[manic carbon]

8.0 @plain wagon

[frigid quest]

if its 8.0, there should be a 7.10 dedicated to wargaming listening to feedback from players and nerfing the yoh, out of all tanks that were supertested, only the sheridan was broken which was more than a year ago, the supertest system has a pretty clean record

[somber hawk]

60TP isnt ingame

[frigid quest]

the 50tp iirc isnt going to be in the game, wargaming determined the tank would be difficult to balance and wargaming listened to feedback from testers about the amx54 which was broken and nerfed it

if anything, most tanks that were supertested are average

[tame summit]

Oh ryt my bad, I'm still not used to the European techtree that is in the Blitz version

[past crane]

Oh yeah lol. Once the 50tp prototyp is balanced, we can get the 60TP line lmao

I think that the 60TP should get a lesser alpha gun though. 640 is too much and would make the E100 irrelevant, so maybe just a straight 600/500/900 alpha.

[solid gate]

I feel like 550 dmg on AP with faster reload would fit really well

[somber shard]

The e50m is more lourder than amx 50b and its a med?? Wtf

He has more armor!!!!

[gentle wasp]

show me the international rule that says heavies must have more armor than meds

[somber shard]

Wait

[manic carbon]

Some heavies play more like meds, some meds play more like heavies.
Doesn’t have to be a strict rule for classes

[azure patio]

Anyone know how much coin is7 attachment + legendary camo bundle is?

[copper apex]

Is it me or the stock turret on the m46 patton has better armor/harder to hit?

[hollow notch]

Not really, the armor is bad either way, but you sacrifice 200 dpm and 100 hp on the stock turret

[copper apex]

Hmm weird. With stock turret im bouncing isu shots without much effort. Top turret i get penned by tier 8 ltd

[limber axle]

What gun is best on the t-54?

[plucky rain]

Top gun leading to T-62A

[gentle wasp]

D-10T2C

[limber axle]

Is the slight more pen worth the stuff it’s losing though?

[grand bramble]

Which line is better to grind progetto or stb 1

[zealous anchor]

STB imo@grand bramble

[hollow notch]

Imma have to disagree and say prog

The only quality tank in the stb line ins the stb itself, while all of the prog line is somewhat strong.

[lyric oriole]

D-54

Don't bother with the lower pen gun at all especially in the heavy meta

[lyric oriole]

If you run the stock turret you literally have nothing

@wise moth and I tested it and the 17pdr gun on Black Prince can pen the mantlet like 80% of the time

You lose so much and look that those dispersion factors

[hollow notch]

You have the same heat either way so higher dpm all the way

[lyric oriole]

.22

[wise moth]

Stock turret is like 180mm effective IIRC

[hollow notch]

Uhhh.....

[lyric oriole]

It's about 167-171 effective

[wise moth]

@hollow notch M46 Stock turret, M26, and T26E4 all have phantom armor behind their mantlets.

Armor Inspector/Blitzhangar show 0mm primary armor, but that's definitely not correct. I've tested it before
M46 stock turret is like 170 or 180mm effective IIRC
M26 is like 300
T26E4 is also like 300

[hollow notch]

300? Definitely not

[torn mountain]

American T1 line is fantastic

[lyric oriole]

You get like 130 more DPM for twice as bad dispersion on turret traverse and get 260 alpha more often

110 for the HEAT

[torn mountain]

I did the same with the Chimera 7 battles and I hated it sold it without a second though. Wasn't gonna play it again any ways.

[solid gate]

you what

[brittle snow]

Try both and see which one gets you a lose streak

[torn mountain]

I sold the Chimera. Hated the thing, its terrible imp and I love big alpha guns

[solid gate]

the t62's gun is more effective becuae of the pen, the 140 gun has bad pen

[solid gate]

you w h a t ?

[frigid compass]

i hate facing the Chimera personally

[frigid quest]

D10T2C, 140 is not a bad tank at all, 201(218 calibrated) is still sufficient, and the D54 has e100 dispersion and worse dpm just for 18mm of extra pen thats just negligable at best

[solid gate]

just get the EGLD

[lyric oriole]

What

[frigid quest]

gld only improves aim time

[lyric oriole]

Why would you use calibrated on the D10

That's the worst possible thing you can do

[solid gate]

^

[frigid quest]

some people prefer having more heat penetration but im not one of these people

[torn mountain]

Lol, no regrets whatsoever, I happily sold it.

[solid gate]

okeh

[calm drum]

AmericanPatriot[D2TH]#8239 has been warned.

[torn mountain]

Sigh

[solid gate]

I mean. I like the chimera 100% better than the t34

[torn mountain]

Uh so what happens when I get warned? Am I like banned if something ever happens? My bad btw didn't know I couldnt say that

[lyric oriole]

@torn mountain don't worry bout it it's just a warn

[solid gate]

send help a ltp is bullying a m3

[torn mountain]

Oh okay, sorry again Mayo. Didn't know I couldn't say that lol

[frigid quest]

no reasonable person calibrates for more ap penetration, also the d54 misses more shots than it should lowering the effective dpm and you do not gain more HEAT pen, as synx says, people who run the D54 are eh

[solid gate]

idk man Im doing pretty damn good in life

[lyric oriole]

D-54 doesn't miss more shots you get twice as bad Turret traverse dispersion with the D-10

You literally get the best Gun traverse dispersion of all tier 9 meds with the D-54

D10 gets 7th of all tier 9 meds for 4th best base dispersion

[frigid quest]

but i would not take the trade of having bad overall dispersion that lowers your DPM that you already lost from the D10 just for turret traverse dispersion, and 18mm more pen that realistically would not help that much

[lyric oriole]

I would not trade having bad AP pen for 130 DPM

The base dispersion is not hard to work with when you have the best movement dispersion factors

130 DPM against a heavy in a heavy meta is not gonna help you especially when it's key to use your mobility

[frigid quest]

the 130 more so DPM allows the T-54 to bully tier 8s and it certainly does help against tier ten tanks, in tier ten matchups, the T-54 cannot really frontline anyways and it has to play like a vulture light anyways, I would not see the extra pen really coming into play unless if you are trading with a T-62A which is still a bad idea

[plucky rain]

Even turret is paper in t10?

[frigid quest]

yes, it is worse than the 140s turret but you have smaller cupolas and no 30mm roof

[lyric oriole]

If you are running the lower pen gun to "bully" tier 8s when you generally face tier 10 your argument is completely invalidated

You will very rarely face tier 8 in tier 9 tanks

[solid gate]

t54 is a beast at tier 8 tho

[frigid quest]

i am not sure you read my entire point but again, in tier ten, the T-54 will have to play like a vulture light, spotting, rotating and finding targets to exploit, the reduced dpm on the d54 will limit your damage output, the d10s dpm still has a chance against 105 dpm, the d54 cant really compete, long range sniping with .317 dispersion is more comfortable as well as sniping weakspots, .35 dispersion, good luck

again, why would i make a already russian gun less accurate overall for turret traverse dispersion and 18mm pen

[wise moth]

The problem with the D-54 is that the pen is still garbo, but unlike D-10, you can't snipe for weakspots because the dispersion is horrific
D10 + Rammer is the way to go on the T-54

[solid gate]

no deppresso

[frigid quest]

both guns have 5 degrees of gd, not sure what you are talking about

[brittle snow]

let's just agree that both guns are garbage

[solid gate]

thats not alot

[frigid quest]

d10 is ok, d54 is the garbage one

[solid gate]

and plus wasnt even gonna talk abt the t54 deppression
i was gonna talk the t34 gun dep
russian t34

[frigid quest]

5 degrees is perfectly workable, 6 is above average, 7 and above is good

[solid gate]

tell that to my su101

[wise moth]

Nah 6 degrees is average, 7 is decent 8+ is good. 5 is definitely bad, albeit the only tanks with 5 degrees nowadays tend to be ones with low profiles, so they're still workable

[frigid quest]

never had issues with 4 degrees other than the fact that hulldown is a absolutely awful idea

[wise moth]

Not being able to hulldown well is a pretty massive disadvantage, since this game is all about hulldown

[frigid quest]

then again, 4 may be acceptable for a td but suicide in a heavy or medium

[solid gate]

no.

[midnight leaf]

taller tanks have more gun depression i think

[quiet heart]

Wz 120 laughing in 3 degrees of depression for a medium

[frigid quest]

i will take 4 degrees of gd if that means very high dpm, thats why i love the SU-122-54

@solid gate theres no reason to not use the top gun in the su101, top gun has 4

[wise moth]

The only turreted vehicle I can think of with less than 5 degrees is just the WZ-120

[solid gate]

but if you dont have the free exp to exp it you have to go with this for a while

[frigid quest]

save free exp

[solid gate]

I do but theres some ppl that dont

[midnight leaf]

what happened to the is3d is it not good anymore

[solid gate]

not at all its absolute garbo

alr cya later peeps

[quiet heart]

Power creep

[frigid quest]

you cannot be completely braindead in a is3d anymore, there are ways to poke effectivly in a pike nosed tank and do not forget about 7 degrees of gd

[midnight leaf]

replaced by 252u?

[frigid quest]

is3d can hulldown easier than the is3 and the autoloader is still potent

[quiet heart]

For now, probably 2 years down the line there’s gonna be another even stronger Russian pike nose 122mm heavy tank again

[brittle snow]

Is360

[modest ocean]

German td and soviet td which's better?

[plucky summit]

Germans for the extremophile tanks, soviets for the well rounded tanks

There’s probably a preference for german TDs now because of Grille having Spall Liner and great DPM

[modest ocean]

Hmm

Should i go to jg pz e100 cause i already done maus path and on that path tiger p lead to jg pz e100

[plucky summit]

If you want to deal with Ferdinand, go for it

[modest ocean]

It's closer path but i heard grille that good so here i tryhard again, ty

[plucky summit]

Good luck

[onyx sluice]

Didn't the EMIL 1 used to have a 4 shell autoloader?

[frigid quest]

i think you got the 50 100 and emil mixed up

[onyx sluice]

Maybe, I just remember reading the EMIL had a 4 shell clip.

[fast compass]

No. Emil never had a 4 shell clip. 50 100 used to have that(and still does on the stock gun)

[storm robin]

How good is the Kran nowadays?

[fast compass]

Kran is still one of the better tier 10 tank

[brave night]

It’s one of the best t10 heavies

Nothing has been power crept about it so

[keen garnet]

Dummies be like: BaD dPm

[brave night]

Ikr

[storm robin]

Bad on-paper DPM, but very good effective dpm cos of the autoreloader; the longer a Kran isn’t actively shooting at somebody, the more dangerous it becomes because of the sheer burst damage from the mag

[frigid compass]

braindead easy to play

[keen garnet]

Excellent, a little boring for me tho

[somber hawk]

Progetto better line but not that good tier X, STB horrific line but better tier X

[stiff basin]

I'd go for progetto because autoreloader looks fun

[somber hawk]

yup

[graceful wedge]

the t62a dpm is so strong

[quasi mirage]

I mean depends for GD, a t62 with 7 degrees? Thats great depression values. An e100? Fairly bad.

[brave night]

7° isn’t god tier but still solid

[graceful wedge]

imagine t62a with its great turret armor and 8° of gun depression

[brave night]

Sounds like a stb1 with more dpm and lower profile

[midnight leaf]

god tier

[brave night]

What if we put toasters elevation as depression angles

[fair granite]

T30 US TD. Thought?

[kindred thorn]

you gotta hulldown, cause at that tier your hull is just so weak

[fair granite]

I noticed. My main concern is the gun is not very accurate. The only possible good thing about the TD is it’s ability to hull down.

[graceful wedge]

it would enter the ground

[kindred thorn]

yeah, plus its dpm is kinda low with its top gun and you have to be able to hide during that 16 second reload

[lavish epoch]

which tank can not be penetrated in the rear/side by 183 squash head?

[low rampart]

Chi-To

[kindred thorn]

yeah chi to

[dusky stirrup]

I think it would be Sheridan. Spaced armor. So it would just deal splash damage.

[manic carbon]

You can pen a spot in rear hull

Also just side/rear of hull, or turret as well is the question @lavish epoch

[solid gate]

@low rampart why the chi to?

[solid gate]

will FV4202 get a camo yet?

[last lintel]

how can i design a vehicle for the game?

maybe for hybrid nation

[manic carbon]

@solid gate well yeah it will eventually. There was a camo ideas channel for all the tier ten tech tree tanks without a legendary camo, so they are thinking about giving the rest one eventually.
Of course, they chose to do the Jg E100 first

[solid gate]

always germoney first

[manic carbon]

Well I think it makes sense. Out of the remaining tech tree tanks, I’d say a Jg camo has been asked for the most and longest time

[gentle wasp]

clearly not or else it would have had one earlier

[solid gate]

good point, still want muh 4202 camo : (

[proper ether]

should i go e50m or leopard1

[violet timber]

Depends on your play style and how experienced you are

[brave night]

either is a solid choice

[noble pilot]

does tortoise have the better version of engine power boost?

[hard cedar]

Leo isn't super newbie friendly since it has no armor

[brave night]

no

[noble pilot]

;-;

anyone know how much the fv215b 183 cost?

[kindred thorn]

credits? all t10s cost 6.1 mil

[brave night]

5.85with supply

[noble pilot]

k

[vale heath]

When is Lupus coming to store?

[static badge]

Kfpz 70 is good or bad?

[past crane]

nice alpha, but not great in anything else

watch a review on youtube it'll tell you everything you need to know

[static badge]

Ok thanks, might buy just for the looks lol

[past crane]

it does look pretty cool lol

[supple coyote]

I love it. Some people don’t like it. The gun is pretty nice ngl

[solid gate]

Can’t pen an e75 lowerplate without gold or CS

[static badge]

But the gold is like 340 aint it?, With the equipment right?

[safe axle]

What shall I buy?

(its tiger ii)

[solid gate]

@static badge it’s roughly 330 or 335 which is still pretty poor

[static badge]

Maybe for a td, but this a tier 9 heavy

I looked at its german counterparts and their heat/apcr pen is 310, somewhere around that

[solid gate]

@static badge the E75 is lower but it’s far more survivable and better at constant damage

[static badge]

Understandable

[umbral flax]

I’m about go for the E5, any tips for the different tiers?

[calm drum]

im_fucking_tired#1739 has been warned.

[proper ether]

k

[valid cedar]

Is there a big difference in playstyle between light tanks and medium tanks on the light spectrum (I.e. t62 or WZ-121)? The only big diff i can see is that the light tanks have less armour but even more speed

[wooden crater]

light tanks also have an unusual camo characteristic where they don't lose camo on the move, while meds do

[quiet heart]

there isnt too big of a difference in playstyle (especially comparing meds to heavies/tds).

[hard cedar]

I don't think the t62a is on the light spectrum, it's too slow for that imo

[quiet heart]

leo is probally the most 'light' tank out of the tier x mediums. The 121 isnt really that similar to lights either since it has horrible on movement dispersion. The next 'lightest' meds would probally be the tvp, 140 and maybe stb

[valid cedar]

so overall there isn't much difference between the 'lightest' meds and the lights then? (Other than camo) or are there any other differnces

[plucky summit]

AMX CDC imo is the most light medium tank

Simply being too heavy for lights apparently, it weighs a few more tons than the heaviest tier 8 light tank

But honestly, it's a light tank

[quiet heart]

There isnt much of a difference but there still is a difference. With lights you get absolutely no armor, you can't rely on ur armor like you can sometimes in ur meds. But you also get much much better mobility which allows you to be more mobile and push several different flanks in 1 battle.

if you're just talking about tier x light tanks, the batchat and sheridan are unique enough with their guns to set them apart from other tier x meds. (although the batchat is similar to the tvp now) The vickers has the most med like gameplay out of the three tier x LTs

[sonic oriole]

Any tips for driving the Cent 1?

[midnight leaf]

i thought bc 25t was a medium

[wooden crater]

guessing you came from pc, it's a light here

[full pike]

As someone who disabled one of those in a Tiger I with only a Ausf H turret, use your speed and DPM, because your armor sucks.

Pretty sure that the KMM Tiger can do the same, but HP might lose a problem.

[midnight leaf]

its 25tons tho other lights are like 16 tons

[quiet heart]

the vickers is actually 32 tons. batchat was the first tier x light tank introduced into wotb

[rose venture]

I know I’m whining but, wg just pumping out these arguably crappy battle pass camos but takes half an eternity to make legendary camos for the remaining tier tens.

I’ll give the credit that some of them are ok but still the quantity bothers me.

[plucky rain]

High damage per minute but low single shot tanks can be very difficult to play
Change my opinion
Especially when teammates are muppets

[neat nimbus]

christmas battle pass camos were the worst some were a direct insult to existing one

[solid gate]

hell yea i still havent used any of them

[golden shoal]

Ugh, I just cant make the FV4202 work

[neat nimbus]

if some were realistic i would use them but those arent, i wish wg could give the option to exchange those camos for credits im out of credits i need some

[rose venture]

^^

[past wraith]

Then make it work

[static harness]

Big brain time

[compact ruin]

Kpfpz 70. Anyone find problems with this tank? I’m finding that around 50% of shots fired at an enemy tank lower glacis with hit a track instead, even at close range, and outside the reticle. Never noticed this happen so often in any other tank. It’s infuriating.

[past wraith]

How do u play ur kpf tho?

What if they made animated camos for every pass instead?

I mean why not then it will be really worth buying a pass every month

[compact ruin]

I play kPF differently depending on team make up and tier I’m up against. Sometimes as a heavy, sometimes as a med

[past wraith]

Ya thats the thing the kpf is like 20% heavy and 80% medium. I play kpf more as a medium than a heavy cuz i cant really engage something like a ST-1

Just saying tho bcuz many skins in almost every pass that came out was pretty lame so adding animated camos couldnt hurt on WGs end

WG could have given it the better 122mm gun that was fitted on it in earlier phases of its production

[compact ruin]

Totally. Only frontline it if I’m going towards the usual med/light route. Have a 55% win rate in it with 300 games, so not too bad

[past wraith]

Ya you should trying reading the line up and decide where to play but In T10 matches there isnt much u can do sadly

[compact ruin]

So no problems with it tracking enemies constantly instead of hitting lower glacis? I’m wondering if it’s an auto aim issue, shot going to a module instead of where I’m aiming

I’m playing on an iPad over mobile network

Believe it or not my mobile is better than my wifi. Wifi ping is unpredictable, with huge spikes. Mobile ping is 120. Wifi is 150, and goes up and down

I lived on an island in the Indian Ocean for a while, the ping was 500. I got used to it. Win rate never changed. Lol

[past wraith]

Im no lousy scrub, i play with ethernet, almost aways no lag spikes ever

[compact ruin]

I found it terrible to begin with, all aspects of it, particularly the poor gun depression. Got used to it.

[past wraith]

A 122 is a 122

[candid harbor]

you need to ambush at start (getting into a position where you get the first hit on enemy, generally at their sides), tank is decently mobile, so try to head for position where you can use your tank hulldown while moving diagonally
(this will make it harder for your enemies to snipe your weakspots).

Tank somewhat struggles with penetration, so you need to choose your fights with whom and where you are fighting, generally be a support heavy for meds, support them with your pretty accurate heavy hitting gun.

i'll find a replay, it will be more understandable, how to play it

[candid harbor]

pretty mediocre game

[valid cedar]

I'm currently on the t9 Mauschen, but I'm not sure I'm playing it correctly, how should I be playing the Maushcen? Should i just get into a sidescraping position on the left, or peek at the front lines or

also which equipment should i get for the mauschen, im not sure which to pick

[stiff basin]

Playstyle:

• Sidescrape if you can, but also angle your turret while reloading
• you can be frontline, but wiggle a bit to get bounces
• you can trade your shots with other tanks
• don't try to fight a light/medium at an open area
  Equipment:
• Gun rammer (You can go for calibrated but I like rammer more so I run it on most tanks)
• Enhanced gun laying drive
• Refined gun
• Defence system
• Enhanced armor
• Toolbox
• Improved optics
• Mobility boost (idk how is it called
• Consumable delivery system if you're not using adrenaline (other than that use High-end consumables)
  @valid cedar (just pinging to inform you)

And be aware that you have a cupola, try to hide it

Do the exact same thing on Maus and get the same equipment, but you don't have a cupola so you won't be penned that much

[valid cedar]

ah, so i should try keep my turret facing the enemy but wiggle it too right? (I'm assuming the cheeks of the turret are vulnerable). And also would hulldown be a good idea for the mauschen and maus, or would the cuplulut of the former make it too unreliable?

[stiff basin]

you just need to angle it if you reload, not face it directly.

[kindred wren]

No, turn your turret away, wiggling also helps but is not strictly necessary

Pointing the turret corner to the enemy as a rough estimate should get you started on angling the turret pretty well

[stiff basin]

You can also try to hide cupola with a gun

[kindred wren]

That will decrease your turret angle, but if people rather shoot your cupola than your cheeks it’s a good way to increase your armour effectiveness

[valid cedar]

how do i hide my cupola with a gun?

[kindred wren]

Elevate your gun as high as possible and then turn your turret so your gun is right in between the enemy gun and your cupola

[valid cedar]

ohh i see, wow that is a pretty nice trick, never knew that so ty! Also, is there any way to somehow 'angle' my cupola, or does it have the same armour thickness at all angles?

[kindred wren]

Looks like this

[valid cedar]

yeah that looks like a pretty nice trick to me

[stiff basin]

But also remember that they can shoot into your cheeks

[kindred wren]

Angling the cupola doesn’t help because it’s rounded, so it looks the same regardless of how you look at it (it’s weaker at the back but that doesn’t really have an effect at the usual angles)

[valid cedar]

oh wow i just got into a game and tried that trick and blocked 2.5k dmg, it rly worked, ty!

[kindred wren]

Lol, nice to hear

The right way to angle the Mäuschen armour may seem a bit odd at the start but it pays off

[stiff basin]

You can try to hide cupola while sidescraping, but it works only on one side

[valid cedar]

yep

[steep marsh]

SCP-516 ????? 👀

[valid cedar]

hmm rn i rly seem to like playing the light-ish medium tank y5 firefly, if i want a tank like that in t10 which tanks would be most suitable?

[violet timber]

Probably Leo 1

[valid cedar]

what kind of playstyle does the Leo 1 have exactly?

[boreal shell]

not leo 1
it’s very hard to play
I recommend t62a
hulldown medium with a laser gun

[stiff basin]

But he wants a med-light, not a med

So probably Leo 1, amazing DPM and speed, no armor

[valid cedar]

how do med-lights normally play in battle?

[valid cedar]

wait but is 7 degrees enough for hull down?

[rigid thunder]

the tank is low to the ground, 7 degrees is actually nice

[stiff basin]

You're a light but with less camo and more DPM, so you can circle heavies or TDs, spot etc.

[hard cedar]

Hull downing in a leo isn't very important you'll get penned anyway

[valid cedar]

hmm so would an t62a play the same way then, the stats look nice

[hard cedar]

No t62a is not a medium light

[valid cedar]

oh, i thought it was cuz it has some speed

[hard cedar]

No it's the slowest t10 med iirc

[boreal shell]

It’s still pretty quick

[hard cedar]

Not quick enough to be a med light, top speed only 50

[boreal shell]

Medium- lights are more of a low tier thing..., I’d just go for a tier 10 medium

[steep marsh]

yoo this looks good

[valid cedar]

do you have any reccomendations for good t10 meds to go for by any chance?

[hard cedar]

T62a and stb1 are good tanks for beginners, obj. 140 is also pretty good imo, fun playstyle

[onyx sluice]

Yes, though it's fake. And probably impossible to build.

[spark basin]

the jageroo would be far stronger with that design

[rigid thunder]

not probably, but would be

[valid cedar]

is the stb1 similar to the t62a ig

[steep marsh]

this is pancake

[rigid thunder]

They're both good at hull down and holding ridgelines, but the STB trades hull armour, mobility, dpm and gun handling for 10 degrees of gun depression and a better (?) turret, making it the best tier 10 MT for ridgelines. The 62a has less hull down potential, but is more flexible elsewhere

[hard cedar]

yeah just read what they said above ^, decide which ones better for you
Also stb1 has a higher alpha than the 62a

[valid cedar]

hmm, what i was having in mind was a med that could support heavies- which is why perhaps light meds may not be the best. Do they work well in supporting heavies too, or are other meds better at that job too? (I.e. heaviums, im not too sure sorry)

[rigid thunder]

wdym by supporting heavies though? Cos if you mean driving with heavies on the same flank, then no mediums are good at that

[keen garnet]

E 50 M begs your pardon

[rigid thunder]

not even close to being good enough

[valid cedar]

what are the diff types of roles diff heavies can play at t10 then? maybe i got it wrong rip

[hard cedar]

E50 is meh lower plate and turret armor are both bad

[rigid thunder]

poor hull armour to 374 HEAT, poor sides. Poor turret to prammo, poor alpha damage, bad dispersion on the move. This tank can't ever dream of taking a heavy on in a hull down fight or sidescraping against one.

[keen garnet]

I was joking....

[rigid thunder]

oops

[solid gate]

excuse me but ive held an entire heavy flank in an e50m

[valid cedar]

oh wait progetto looks nice, how does it compare to the stb 1?

[rigid thunder]

anyways, heavies at high tiers (8-10) generally perform similar roles according to their characteristics. Some are good hull down, some are heaviums (good mobility, lacking in some other parts), some are good at just bouncing damage and out trading enemy tanks. Basically what I'm getting at is that they have many different types of playstyles

[valid cedar]

shit i meant to say mediums rip, soz

[manic carbon]

Players usually fail by playing all heavy tanks the same.

[valid cedar]

yea true i used to do that too until i compared diff hts and found out many diffs like my IS-3 and Vk 100.01P

[manic carbon]

High tier british heavies are the best example. I love to see conquerors and chieftains frontlining against superheavies

[rigid thunder]

It's very different for sure, but compared to the STB the Progetto 65 is just not as good despite having an autoreloader

[valid cedar]

oh, i thought the progetto having an autoreloader would make it better than the stb esp for hulldown

[keen garnet]

Prog has 0 armor except for mantlet and upper plate for some tanks

[rigid thunder]

it has a troll armour profile at best, but people capable of thinking and breathing at the same time will be able to easily pen you. And it also has poor gun handling, terrible DPM and mediocre mobility

[valid cedar]

ill prob go for the stb then, focusing on hull down, unless hull down gets boring and i start to prefer the t62a for more mobility dps and armour

ty!

[solid gate]

just as a fair warning the low teir japs are pain

[valid cedar]

yeah im alr tried t6 med and rn at t8 ho ri td

the t6 med in particular sucks

[solid gate]

oh yea the chito is horrable

[boreal shell]

I’ll make my list of top meds for me

Favorite- T22 medium (it’s a premium though)
T62a
Wz121
Stb
Progetto
M48
Obj140
Tvp
Leo 1
E50M
Least favorite- Fv4202
Never played 121b

So, I’d go with t62a. It’s newbie friendly and a really solid tank. Stb1 is also a good choice

[lyric oriole]

WZ-121 is also a very newbie friendly tier 10 med and fits very well in the heavy meta among the other meds

[valid cedar]

are there any big differences between the WZ and the T62/stb?

[lyric oriole]

Well Alpha is a huge Difference

121: 420
STB-1: 350
T-62A: 310

And they all play very very different

STB-1 can cover all general roles for mediums

It's the jack of all trades, gun depression, armor, mobility, decent gun and camo

T-62A is raw DPM with a solid turret and above average accuracy and DPM and gun depression at 7° for soviet tanks.

It's a bit slow and poorly armored on the hull as a trade off

121 has a near instant Aim time at the cost of terrible movement dispersion factors

But the alpha is extremely high and the DPM is solid as a result

Has significantly more hull armor than T-62A but a weaker turret

It is more mobile however

[valid cedar]

what about the progetto? my friend is telling me its burst dmg is rly good and its tempting me ngl

[lyric oriole]

These are all compared to STB-1 but the point is that you can see a side by side by side and directly compare

[valid cedar]

wow ty!

[lyric oriole]

Also Progetto 65 isn't that good rn

It's ok

But it's really not anything special anymore

[valid cedar]

oh i see, i just thought high burst can be super deadly

[quiet heart]

it can be but there are other balancing factors (like the horrible accuracy on the prog)

[valid cedar]

hmm, tbh for a person who's never played meds before i might go for the stb since its the jack of all trades, just to play it safe

[hollow notch]

Wait what? It's got a clip but doesn't have the crippling reload

Imma have to HARD disagree

[lyric oriole]

All the other stats, it's not overly Accurate, mobile, or armored

[quiet heart]

for a first time med player, stb1 or 62a are probally your best choices. 121 and prog aren't really your normal mediums

[hollow notch]

That's the price it pays for a broken mechanic

[lyric oriole]

Unlike Kran which doesn't pay any of those

[hollow notch]

Kran mobility is...

[lyric oriole]

Fixed via a consumable

Making you more mobile when you need it

[quiet heart]

Kran pays a pretty hefty mobility disadvantage for a subpar autoloader gun (since it has such a long reload)

[hollow notch]

Ish, even then the mobility isn't particularly great. Its enough

[lyric oriole]

There are much better choices than prog

[hollow notch]

Prog is one of the best all rounders

Some armor, mobility, depression, and plenty of firepower

[lyric oriole]

Some armor isn't helpful

[hollow notch]

Its enough to force people to take time to aim

[valid cedar]

actually yeah now im picking sbt1 or t62a, thinking whether the higher dpm and accuracy of the t62A is worth the poor hull armour and slow speed

[lyric oriole]

It can be a little weird to get used to but it's not bad

[hollow notch]

I personally hate the Soviet tier 10 meds

[valid cedar]

uh doesnt have t62a have more armour?

[keen garnet]

Ah I see a man of culture here

[quiet heart]

stb1 doesnt have good hull armor either (but it is faster). The whole japanese med line leading up to the tier x doesnt really have armor until the stb

[lyric oriole]

I actually do too

They don't fit my playstyle at all

[hollow notch]

The gun just feels so pathetic. It has dpm, yes, but it has to constantly be exposed to actually use it

[valid cedar]

it looks like on blitz hanger the t62a has thicker armour than the stb

[lyric oriole]

I tend to roll 260-280 with the standard ammo which really turns me away from it

[lyric oriole]

By number but effectively no

[hollow notch]

God forbid a heavy notices a high dpm tank shooting its side and slightly turns its armor toward you

[lyric oriole]

IS-4 gives me nightmares then I shoot it for 225 HEAT, that'll scare him

[quiet heart]

they both have similarly good turret armor i think. But i feel like the stb has slightly bouncy hull armor since its angled weird while the 62a is just a flat gray upper plate

[valid cedar]

ohh yeah thats true, missed that out

[hollow notch]

Ita kinda sad that if I am hammering away at a maus, its gonna take a full minute of the maus completely ignoring me to actually kill it.

[valid cedar]

so the 62a has more dpm and better aiming time but is more vulnerable would you say?

[lyric oriole]

Very much

Especially since it loses trades with most tier 10 tanks

[hollow notch]

It also is difficult to completely hide the hull on the t62

[valid cedar]

even if i try hull down on hills or slopes with the t62?

[quiet heart]

the 62 hull is pretty tall so

[lyric oriole]

It has 7° so it's easier than most soviet vehicles but it won't be easy

[hollow notch]

The problem is that the gun is directly on top of the hull, so you have basically no margin for error

[valid cedar]

oh shoot, well in that case i might just go stb then

[hollow notch]

The stb is easier to play, but the grind of the t62a is much nicer

[lyric oriole]

I'm certain some unicum will roll over in their grave with me saying this but Soviet tier 10 meds aren't that easy to play

[quiet heart]

just beware that the japanese tier V-IX meds have literally no armor

[valid cedar]

are the t7-9 jap med tanks ok, havent tried them tho the t6 gives me pain

[lyric oriole]

The tier 7 is a good light and medium bully

[hollow notch]

Other than the t22, I agree

[lyric oriole]

STA-1 is a long range sniper

Type 61 is a better 46 patton

[lyric oriole]

My argument with that is the side armor was stealth nerfed multiple times and I see a lot of bad players try to rely on it and it's not hard to take out anymore

Before it turned 90° and you pray the shell went through

[hollow notch]

But if you play like an idiot, the armor still works just as well as playing intelligently

[lyric oriole]

Not from what I've seen

[hollow notch]

._.
Uhhhhhh

[lyric oriole]

I've rarely had issues taking them out

[hollow notch]

Sure I don't have issues killing em either. But playing one is disgusting. let me yolo this field

[lyric oriole]

*has hills

That alone with it's poor mobility and gun depression is scary enough to drive it on

Keep in mind it does have the 2nd worst effective power to weight ratio of all tier 10 meds

[hollow notch]

The mobility isn't even bad. And exposing the deck people still shoot at the stupidity angled sides

(my concept of mobility is highly warped from being a heavy main)

[lyric oriole]

Yeah....

I can tell lol

[quiet heart]

lol

[lyric oriole]

Remember T-22 only goes 50kph

Whoops 55

[hollow notch]

Considering I am usually one fo the first to the fight with far slower tanks, I don't really see the problem

[lyric oriole]

But, you will rarely see that with such a bad P/W

[quiet heart]

thats probally just more of an issue with camping teammates or teammates that load into the game late

[hollow notch]

I just have a hella aggressive heavy playstyle though.

[lyric oriole]

If you play on Normandy or the med side of Yamato harbor you see immediately, it's not fun in T-22 solo

[hollow notch]

Normandy med side? Bruh, that's the only side of Normandy as far as I am concerned

[lyric oriole]

Also Vineyards, my team never goes Heavy side when I'm in T-22 but God forbid I'm in a slow not armored TD it's time to go to the city

[lyric oriole]

You didn't read that right

Normandy

OR

The med side of Yamato harbor

[hollow notch]

Meh, you have stupid sides to eat the shot people take at you when you cross the gap

[quiet heart]

both that essentially require you to have good turret armor and gun depression to have any hopes of being useful in battle

[lyric oriole]

And P/W ratios for keeping speed on hills

[hollow notch]

I guess I never have gone "geez, this needs more speed"

[lyric oriole]

Unless a heavy goes faster than 35kph P/W is arbitrary

[hollow notch]

Just my wack playstyle I guess.

*further shown by the t95e6 currently being my favorite t10

[lyric oriole]

*which is a medium on other platforms

[hollow notch]

Its just a thicc stb

[lyric oriole]

But also thinn

Narrow

[hollow notch]

The gun is thicc for a med

It's nice to actually be able to counter heavies while doing med things

[lyric oriole]

That's what I save my surprise IS-4 for

[hollow notch]

._.
It turns and accelerates like a slug

[lyric oriole]

It reaches 42 kph Pretty easy

Nothing wrecks the meds like taking it to the med side and ruining everyone's day

[quiet heart]

that sounds like devils work

[keen garnet]

I honestly find IS-7 much more fun than IS-4

[hollow notch]

But yea, its disgusting to do that to the poor lil tier 9.5s

[lyric oriole]

I don't find being insta killed or having my DPM cut in half fun

[brave night]

Lemme 1v1 a is4 and win in a med

[quiet heart]

1v1 doesnt show how good a tank is.

[hollow notch]

Ya, it works against an afk is4

[brave night]

In a reg match

[lyric oriole]

There is one medium I am afraid of in IS-4

And it's a yolo TVP

[brave night]

POV the player is in bluee

[lyric oriole]

Just casually kamikazes me to chunk out 1230 of my health if possible

[quiet heart]

lmao. even if the TVP can't kill you, its still taking off 1200 hit points and your not fast enough to run away from it

[brave night]

Idk I preform well in meds against heavies but that might just be me

[hollow notch]

It's ok, it will have to fully kamikaze 3 times and hope all its shells pen

[lyric oriole]

That's not the issue

[quiet heart]

but losing 1200hp still aint fun. Im looking at you to deathstar

[lyric oriole]

My point is it's a devastating blow to my Battleship

[hollow notch]

That's not even half, its fine

[lyric oriole]

It's like being hit with a Shimakaze Torpedo

[brave night]

Me losing 1800 in the first 30 seconds of the game by a grille and two waffles camping

[hollow notch]

It's great when you can fully yolo a group of meds with a maus

[brave night]

Fellow wow player

[kindred thorn]

thought shima was out of meta but idk

[lyric oriole]

I play World of Warships legends but I haven't touched it in a couple months

[kindred thorn]

wg explaining why the new german dds must be absolute garbage

[brave night]

Idk I’m still averaging 2-2.4K in my t10 meds so I’m not gonna complain, yes I know I’m an ape

[hollow notch]

._. Me with 65%+ with that damage

[lyric oriole]

All I know and need to know is Bismarck is hella fun with a secondary build and becomes a one ship Navy all by itself in WoWL

[kindred thorn]

8 seconds of 1200 damage, yeah seems kinda op

german bbs and secondary bulids are outta meta though 😭

[brave night]

I mean my stats still got me to the top 4% of blitz players ._.

[lyric oriole]

Not on console

[quiet heart]

on pc yea after the commander rework, but not on console

[brave night]

Commander rework wasn’t really the best balancing

[kindred thorn]

wargaming explaining why they need to overhaul the commander rework without testing

[lyric oriole]

They added a secondary Consumable that basically gives them pin-point accuracy for up to 40 seconds if you build the commander right

Even without it it's possible to have accurate secondaries

[kindred thorn]

well deadeye is gone and thus all the italian bbs have now become trash

[brave night]

I miss my secondary build tho 😔

[lyric oriole]

You basically get the power of 3 DDs and your BB gun

[kindred thorn]

Gneisenau is very fun
except for when you cant brawl

[lyric oriole]

I min-maxed the reload so it only takes 20 seconds to reload my guns on bismarck

[quiet heart]

plus turtle back armor which makes it nearly impossible to get citadeled

[kindred thorn]

yeah but you can still take huge hits

[lyric oriole]

Gkurfurst intensifies

[kindred thorn]

too fat

[lyric oriole]

That thing is fun on Console WoWs

[quiet heart]

do u also play wot console since modern tanks r coming soon

[lyric oriole]

Citadel someone for 15.5k damage, tier 7 BBs have 70k health

[lyric oriole]

I stopped playing like 1.5 years ago

[brave night]

Same

[kindred thorn]

bismarcks can fight omahas :troll:

[brave night]

Omaha best cruiser in the game

[lyric oriole]

I drove myself nuts trying to complete tier 10 of the War Stories op

[brave night]

When the Omaha is spotted

[rigid thunder]

it's the only ship that can eat citadels from any angle, thus it is the best cruiser

[kindred thorn]

german rockets, american bombs, AP and probably HE shells

i just have this fond memory of getting a citadel on a IJN cruiser in the kongo with HE

[lyric oriole]

Also funny enough

Aircraft carriers suck in Console wot

[rigid thunder]

something's wrong with that statement, I can feel it

[kindred thorn]

wows console update: adding fdr

[quiet heart]

you can feel all the PC players squirming from hearing "aircraft carriers" and "suck" in the same sentence

[lyric oriole]

Believe my I got the mechanics down and they suck

Bombers are mega inaccurate

Torpedos do hardly any damage

[kindred thorn]

what cv you playing

[lyric oriole]

And the aircraft take like 5 minutes to respawn 2 of them

[rigid thunder]

no, just a lame joke. I have no idea what goes on in wowsl

[midnight leaf]

i played wows for about a week then it disappeared for the wg game center ._.

[lyric oriole]

But yeah

They introduced Air craft carriers for a testing period

And they sucked

Bad

Every BB in the world including tier 3 battleships and cruisers tore the planes to shreds

Also having to actively dodge flak increases the amount of time it takes to hit a target for useless damage

Like 2k per bomb

And generally you'll only hit one out of your entire squadron of 6

Because 4 of them get shot down

And the other aims for the whales in the ocean

[kindred thorn]

td

well it varies on which td you are using
263 will just win ez

[delicate dock]

A T10 TD in general will have too much hp to get through for 7 T1s

Even the grille could win

[kindred thorn]

its around 2800 dpm total for 7 t1s

anything that is very mobile will win

yeah like e3

[delicate dock]

Tier 1s are kinda slow iirc

[kindred thorn]

nah most of them have decent speed

ramming

nah even touching the t1 tank would hurt it a lot
most t1s are like 9-10 tons

e100 weighs like 130 and it would probably hurt a lot for that t1

[delicate dock]

If the tier 1s are smart the heavy wont be able to touch them

[kindred thorn]

t1s cant pen maus except in like two places which is very hard to find

yeah that would be hard as well
i dont think they would be able to pen

well they can, they just have to be at like a 90 degree angle or some stuff, basically directly above the e100 to shoot at the back top armor

[quiet heart]

this might be helpful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK-Wcqcj6a0

[kindred thorn]

dies from ram

[waxen cliff]

Sorry for my English
My modification is good job Android Platform

[deep flint]

Hello

Anybody knows why did my friend get band?

[gentle wasp]

send a ticket to player support

[deep flint]

Okay thanks

I am sorry but i cant find it

[keen garnet]

No offense, but we don't even know who you or your friend are mate

[deep flint]

(Sorry for my grammar) so basicly my friend doesent have a diacord and i want to try to unban him because we dont know why he got banned for 1 month

[gentle wasp]

#general-blitz-discussion message

[keen garnet]

He will get a reason for the ban

[deep flint]

Okay thank you

[solid gate]

leKpz M is quite much like a toy

[sacred phoenix]

Hey guys how’s it going

[onyx sluice]

Which tank should I get for the upcoming tournament, the Emil 1 or the Tiger II?

[sacred phoenix]

Tiger 2 in my opinion, sure it doesn’t have an auto loader but it’s got some great dpm it’s got great frontal armour and it versitile in any situation were the Emil only is good for hull down Jäger der Große#1397

@onyx sluice

[onyx sluice]

I will get both.

Use the one with the best results.

Thanks for the advice.

[sacred phoenix]

Sorry for going nerd

Your welcome

[warm drum]

What tank is most op

[gentle wasp]

depends what you think is OP

[fresh vine]

prog is my baby, except it just doesnt really fit in with the map design sometimes

[fresh vine]

annihilator

[warm drum]

How to get annihilator

[fresh vine]

you cant for now

[warm drum]

Event?

[gentle wasp]

it has only been sold once in the Halloween folio event.

[fresh vine]

kinda, pay to win event

[gentle wasp]

you couldn't get the tank without paying, correct

[warm drum]

50% P2W 50% F2W

[valid cedar]

Whats the best way to play the japanese t6 med the Chi-To?

[violet timber]

The folio was the Lycan, Annihilator event was something with pyromleum I think

[gentle wasp]

one of those halloween events yea. I forget the wording they used but it's a similar concept.

[wind burrow]

T95E6 any thoughts ?

[manic carbon]

@valid cedar Japanese meds are all about second line support because of their distinct lack of armour until you get to the STB-1. Always play around teammates, avoid being at the centre of the engagement. HE’able armour/not amazing medium mobility = liable to being bullied. You’ll feel this more on the Chi-Ri armour wise as it is huge as well.

[valid cedar]

Do jap meds have good dpm by any chance then? Or is it average or bad dpm too

[tardy arrow]

Very good tank

[past crane]

Yes, true. Jap meds in general also do have good DPM @manic carbon. Also good penetration for the tier, except the Chi-Ri

[gentle wasp]

the line maintains above average DPM and peaks with the 3k that the Type 61 gets. However, it's hard to utilize this alot, given the alpha, armor, and profile problems most of the tanks share.

[past crane]

Yeah, they are great for cleaning up tanks and supporting other mediums. STB-1 is more jack of all trades though,

[manic carbon]

@valid cedar Chi-to is fine.
Chi-ri has an autoloader with fast reload, very short intraclip (I believe 1 second) but the penetration sucks.

[gentle wasp]

I think it's 1.5

[past crane]

STA-1 and Type 61 are big, slow, have good guns, but bad armor. It's 1 second @gentle wasp

[manic carbon]

They have nice guns, but lack of armour and not distinctly fast = its not easy to use them = they get a lot of hate

[past crane]

Grind is pain but I've heard the STB is worth it (I'm on the Chi-To and I can tell you it's one of the hardest tanks I've ever played because it's a giant barn with no armor).

[gentle wasp]

ah wow it is

[wind burrow]

I just won it in em all crate! It feels more like between medium and heavy

[manic carbon]

STB-1 makes the line worth.
I liked the Chi-ri back in the day, of course this was before tier 7 became the awful state it is now.
The autoloader apart from pen is so nice. When you’re top tier, you shred everything. Bottom tier, you’ll struggle with it.
Doesn’t help it has no armour and has a huge profile

STA-1 is nicer in the fact you aren’t so big

[candid harbor]

and chi ri is slow

[solid gate]

I have a Panzer Ausf IV G, can someone DM please

[gentle wasp]

the STA gun is less impressive tier for tier though, since it's sandwiched between the Chi Ri and the Type 61

[past crane]

Do you need tips on it?

[solid gate]

Yes, I do not fully understand my tank nor do I understand how to angle

[past crane]

oh ok

[candid harbor]

it is a glass cannon
barely has any armor

[manic carbon]

I enjoyed the accuracy and penetration on the STA-1. But I know what you mean

[lyric copper]

watch a tutorial big man

[solid gate]

I have, and I still do not understand and when they do cover it. It's not a tank I have. Each tank has different amor.

[lyric copper]

quick fact: most MTs don’t need angling anyways

[solid gate]

What are MTs?

[lyric copper]

medium tanks, aka what the Pz.4G is

[solid gate]

Ah. Thank you. I am still new. I appreciate it.

[lyric copper]

just a quick question: what tanks do you have currently?

[manic carbon]

@solid gate ill send you a helpful video once I find it

[solid gate]

Thank you, appreciate it

[lyric copper]

quick tip: I’d definitely recommend the Soviet T-62A, great all rounder line, and imo one of the best starter lines

[solid gate]

Just the Panzer Ausf IV G

[valid cedar]

But what exactly is even good about the STB-1 then

[solid gate]

Thank you, but I'd like to go all german

[lyric copper]

Don’t sell tanks when you just started @solid gate

@valid cedar good gun dep, good gun, good mobility etc

[quiet heart]

Low profile, decent mobility, very good at hull down.

[valid cedar]

It has good turret armour right

[lyric copper]

reasonable, but the least painful german line has got to be the E100 line, which still is painful as heck

[quiet heart]

best German line for beginners is probally the e100 line. It also teaches you basic angling since all you have to do to angle those heavies is turn the hull a little4

[valid cedar]

Yeah, i regret going for maus when e100 exists with more awesome frontal armour, including the t8 ans t9s compared to the maus t8s and t9s

[solid gate]

I almost went leopard 1 line

[wise moth]

They're pretty non painful nowadays. VK 36, Tiger I, Tiger II, and E-75 are all pretty solid tanks

[lyric copper]

stock pains

[solid gate]

I'm going Tiger line

[wise moth]

Maus is better than E-100. The line is way worse, but the Maus itself simply has way more armor and HP than the E-100. Gun is definitely worse, but the Maus is extremely difficult to deal with, whereas most enemies will make short work of the E-100

[valid cedar]

Doesnt the maus have a big lower plate and cuploa weakspot but the e100 doesnt

[kindred thorn]

Maus has the big lower plate?
🤣
nah e100 lower plate is huge

[valid cedar]

Isnt the lower plate of the e100 harder to pen tho iirc

[lyric copper]

maus has the smallest LFP out of all tier X HTs iirc, and both the E100 and maus lack a cupola

it’s also the thickest lower plate iirc

[solid gate]

What is a maus weakness ?

[wise moth]

I will let this side by side comparison of the Maus/E-100 against 340mm HEAT speak for itself

[valid cedar]

Oh, so not like the t8s and t9s then

[lyric copper]

It’s speed.

even slower mediums have no trouble circling a maus

[quiet heart]

maus's weakpoints are the lower front plate and the turret cheeks on either side of the gun (if the enemy has high pen or premium ammo)

[wise moth]

Speed and gun. Maus has super low DPM, and weak penetration for a tier 10 heavy. And it's limited to 25km/h

[kindred thorn]

so rammer or calibrated on maus?
if i go for that line im prob going rammer

[lyric oriole]

Rammer you can generally bully someone into a position you can penetrate

[wise moth]

Rammer for sure

[solid gate]

So as a Panzer Ausf IV G what is my main job within a game

Protect? Rush? Snipe?

[kindred thorn]

its a t5 med rght?

[lyric copper]

^ of course, with skill, these weakspots can be nullified

@solid gate support the team

[quiet heart]

support, at this stage you don't have enough armor to bounce or "protect". I dont think the gun is accurate enough to snipe or have enough dpm to rush. Play second line, let the heavies take hits for you and shoot when the enemy is distracted or reloading

[pine owl]

make the AT15 armour STONGER

[wise moth]

Panzer IV is just a generic tank. It's a gun on tracks, and the armor will bounce like super low penetration guns, but that's about it. Hide the hull as much as you can, and then just try to deal damage

[lyric copper]

it’s strong enough

[past crane]

lol yeah it is

[solid gate]

Because when ever I play, and i stay behind i always find it more useful than me on the flanks or in the front line.

@quiet heart I have "sniped"or have gotten kills from a far distance

[manic carbon]

It’s armoured, but the cheeks and hatch are weaknesses. So you always keep the turret moving to make it difficult for people to aim at

[past crane]

Sniping, or "camping" is not a great strategy in higher tiers as you limit your effectiveness and distance from the team. In a medium like the Pz. IV, you need to go with your other mediums and focus targets together to push through.