vehicles-discussion

[tame jungle]

Because I can tell you right now, despite the huge production capacity of the continental United state, we have only been able to build 8800 since the 70s

[quiet heart]

its not really that "we haven't been able to", kind of more like "we don't need to" since we're not in a global world war

[golden shoal]

Yes but look at all the other platforms we build too

[sick whale]

Yeah I get the point

[tame jungle]

They are expensive, they are complex, and most importantly, THEY COST AN F TON OF MONEY

[quiet heart]

the tiger was one of the most combat capable tanks in ww2, the problem was not enough of them ever saw combat (either due to low production numbers or mechanical breakdowns or lack of fuel)

[lyric oriole]

Tiger was not one of the most combat capable tanks

[tame jungle]

That title would belong to the Sherman

[lyric oriole]

That would go to Panzer IV

[golden shoal]

^

[tame jungle]

The Sherman was THE most flexible tank to ever exist

[golden shoal]

Eh

[lyric oriole]

Flexible only due to sheer numbers, Panzer IV was actually one of the best WW2 tanks for a multitude of reasons

[sick whale]

Exactly the problem with Germany was that they were fighting in a multi front war almost single handedly so its obvious that they had lack of everything

[quiet heart]

i probally uses the wrong word. I meant smth like the tiger was the most effective in a fight but its definitely not the most effective tank in terms of logistics

[golden shoal]

I wouldn’t even say that

[lyric oriole]

Visibility, comfort for the crew, mobility, weight, gun options, the 7.5cm used a highly Effective AP shell sought after by the allies, and over all cost.

Also protection

Panzer IV had it pretty much all

[golden shoal]

A regular 88mm at gun on a half track would out perform the tiger 1

[tame jungle]

Dude, you need to look into german history just before ww2, country was starved for resources even before they started invading

[sick whale]

I know but they did it anyways

[tame jungle]

No because of the Great Depression

[golden shoal]

Honestly Germany lost because of poor leadership and strategy

[lyric oriole]

No, because of the treaty of versailles

They not only had to pay the allied nations, but also were starved of resources

[tame jungle]

I’m not talking military resources, I’m talking everything

[lyric oriole]

The treaty of versailles went beyond military resources

[sick whale]

But at some points they had the chance to actually win the war but Hitler ruined them All

[tame jungle]

Incredibly stupid move on their part

[golden shoal]

Yes exactly. I doubt that if Germany invaded Russia the war would have ended the same way

[sick whale]

Yep

[golden shoal]

Germany really could have squashed Great Britain is they wanted too. Idk why Germany didn’t push the naval advantage they had more to give the luftwaffe a better chance in the bob

[quiet heart]

after ww1, the allies (cough cough france) were too harsh on germany so ofc germany was going to fight back eventually.

edit: this doesnt justify hitlers actions or the holocaust, just that diplomatically, Germany could have been handled better

[lyric oriole]

Alright let's not continue this talk before it gets a little too sympathetic to a certain regime yeah?

[sick whale]

But we can't ignore the affects of ww2 the world wasn't in today's shape if the ww2 never happened

[golden shoal]

I don’t think analyzing strategic mistakes is being sympathetic to a regime

[lyric oriole]

A little too much talk of a certain someone in charge of said regime you get me?

[sick whale]

Bc of Hitler's personality. he got mad that Churchill bombed German citys and started to bomb English city's instead of factors and airports

[golden shoal]

Ah yes, understandable

[quiet heart]

hitler bad, nazis bad, war is complicated
now back to tanks

[golden shoal]

I believe Dresden was an accident

[sick whale]

Nazis were bad but they weren't the worst

[lyric oriole]

You are starting to tread a fine line

[golden shoal]

cough Stalin

But yes, let us move on from this topic

[quiet heart]

okay time to oversimplify stuff even more
some people bad, some people good, the world is complicated

now back to tanks

[calm drum]

Reaper_K22#1635 has been warned.

[golden shoal]

Let us move on

[sick whale]

Agreed

[quiet heart]

in terms of just armor and tier for tier, is the e75 better than the e100

[solid gate]

Against all proper judgement I got the Kampfpanzer bundle and I surprisingly enjoy it

[plucky summit]

Hmmm, I say E100 is better due to stronger sides

Both feature basically gold/OP-only turrets, and the frontal armor boasts the same relative effectiveness tier for tier

[golden shoal]

Yeah I’m grinding to repurchase a bunch of T9 and T8 tanks

[sick whale]

E100 needs its own strats and it's a lil hard to master

[quiet heart]

alr thanks guys

[vague steppe]

Anyone know how to master the Leopard 1? I've trying to do damage but never more than 2k, which is i think is lacking for a Tier X

[solid gate]

if u want ill check out a few replays and try to tell you what youre doing right and wrong
dm me 🙂

[vague steppe]

Well idk, its been a while since i play Leo 1. I'll try to play today and send you my replay

[solid gate]

🆗

[solid gate]

iirc one of the GuP tanks has anime crew voices is this true

[median tree]

yes

[solid gate]

Is it the Panzer IV?

[wise moth]

@solid gate Yeah, the Panzer IV Anko has Miho's voice. Some people didn't like it because she only has like 2 voice lines for hitting the enemy, so it got repetitive, and they thought her voice was too high pitched,so WG stopped after that

[solid gate]

Works for me

Doesnt the IS-2 pravda also have custom lines?

Nope

[novel steppe]

it's 2 days from sheri missile event...
👀

[solid gate]

It is? Seeing as I have a %90 wr in my MBT-70 I don’t think the event will be a issue

[novel steppe]

you don't... play ISU-152

[frigid quest]

your gold does more damage, use it if you can

[neat nimbus]

im gonna sell the churchill gun carrier

[modest ocean]

How to counter vk 100 p

[tepid geyser]

shoot the cupolia on top or go for the lower plate. If you're in a med or mobile tank, flank it.

[modest ocean]

So incase he sidescrap what to do

[tepid geyser]

flank, or shoot the hatch on top

[modest ocean]

Ok

[bold silo]

interesting

The highlighted tds take a fair bit of energy so lower wr than ideal and progetto could be marginally higher

[compact lantern]

WG should hire a new designer that can design tanks like this

[ocean lantern]

How did you get that?

[plucky rain]

What special consumable does Panther 8.8 get in uprising and mad games?

[stiff basin]

probably time rewind in uprising and accelerator + saboteur system in mad games

[median tree]

bl-10

[jovial smelt]

what is the 2nd heaviest tank ingame?

[rigid thunder]

proabably mauschen

[jovial smelt]

thx, i think e100 would be good in gravity mode still at Tiger(P)

[stiff basin]

Maushen, but vk 168 is almost that heavy at lower tier

Maus - Maushen - vk 168 - JgPz E 100 - E 100 - Vk 100

@bright sentinel premium tier 10, using gold to get other resources is not worth it. Get chieftain mk 6, T-22, vk 90 or amx m4 54 (it won't come into shop probably)

[bright sentinel]

should I dave my gold up for any tier 10 coming in shop, or should I use it for grinding

[shadow fulcrum]

yes

[bright sentinel]

alright then

[onyx sluice]

How long is the Pz 2J bundle going to stay in the store?

[modest ocean]

How much credit per ammo shell on maus?

[keen garnet]

There is a timer on the offer, when it runs out is the time when the offer is gone

[onyx sluice]

Thanks.

[modest ocean]

Oh then. It's the same to vk 100p

I thought it gonna be 2-3k per shells xd, Btw ty

[keen garnet]

NP

[onyx sluice]

Is the Sheridan missile good? I was grinding the Swedish line but have enough XP and credits to get the Tiger II, should I get it instead for the event?

[lyric oriole]

It's a copy paste of Sheridan but with well... Missiles

[onyx sluice]

I don't own a Sheridan and don't know much about the missile mechanic, thats why I was wondering if it was worth grinding for.

[lyric oriole]

It's worth grinding for if you want a fun mechanic in game modes

[median oak]

If you care about game modes

[deep berry]

We need compensation for our Sheri this is unfair I GRINDED it so hard wasted 400k+ exp and 10M creds n sht
And they giving away it for free? Even loza was harder than this
U forgot Y5 event where a T6 was worth 200+ battles?

Edit: we demand 7.5k gold compensation like all other t10 collectables

[gentle wasp]

if you already have it just go for the boosters and camos. It's your fault for thinking it was going to be exclusive.

[white storm]

Calm down, 20 wins per day at tier 8-10 with a minimum of 300 base xp isn’t exactly easy

[fast compass]

They even mentioned it during their first stream where they announced Sheridan missile that it will be available again in the future.

[lyric copper]

300 base ez

20 wins not as much for average player

[deep berry]

Are they blind? Even loza and e75 was easier than this event

Even some dumb Y5 and that tankestein needed like 700 battles

[fast compass]

Their plans are to not just giveaway the tank, same reason why you can't buy tank cases to speed up this grind

[white storm]

With a 50% wr you’re looking at 40 battles per day. Even with a 60% wr you’ll have to play at least 34. So nope, not easy (unless you’re bored lol).

Yeah 300 base is easy if you win.

[deep berry]

U don't understand right...
I SAID ALL older events were waaayyyyy harder this is like 20x easier for a TX tank and it's unfair because ppl like us wasted 500k+ free exp and 10M+ creds on last days to get it

[white storm]

A tier X that’s practically useless, yeah

[deep berry]

Usless yea , ask fun game modes everyone plays those, so Ur saying a dumb T5 is better than Sheri missle?

[fast compass]

You decided to spend 500k+ free xp. Sheridan was available for 11 months before getting its missiles yeeted from it. Not wg fault

[white storm]

In any case WG stated that ppl would have a chance to get it later when they erased the missile, so...

[quiet heart]

as a f2p (so no premium , few boosters), I finished the t92e1 and got the sheridan in 178 battles. This event requires 280 battles in a week so its harder than if you grinded it normally, assuming you started from t49.

[deep berry]

I got notified on last 5 days I had no hope so I wanted 3 more days and my luck struck and 25 X5 came in shop along with uprising so I got it

[white storm]

That just means you don’t look at the news

[deep berry]

I started from Tier 6 I used FREE EXP on all and within 25 wins I got Sheridan because X5 in uprising = 20-30k exp

Well on the bright side I did get sick camo for my Sheridan (that I sold during gal event to get creds)

[glass relic]

Did you just drink a red bull or high caffeine drinks recently? Because i feel like you need to calm down.

[deep berry]

Bro I wasted so much creds and 400kfree exp... Not to mention 2.5k golf aswell now it's just free

[glass relic]

Its your choice and why would you waste that much investment just for one particular reason in the first place?

[deep berry]

Ok forget everything about me

Imagine when a T5 tank is harder to get than this

[white storm]

The Sheridan is (and always has been) free🙄

[rigid thunder]

yeah, at least a tier 5 tank serves some use to newer players

[glass relic]

Never heard of a low tier tank events that took a lot of braincells to grind.

[deep berry]

Not to mention 1000+ battles to get it

[rigid thunder]

1000+?

[glass relic]

Prob meant about grinding the tank itself from stratch T1

[white storm]

If you need 1000+ battles for a single line, I’m sorry but you’re a terrible player ngl

[glass relic]

Ngl 1000 is just average for someone who is quite busy and not using particular bonuses or events.

[deep berry]

If u don't have X3 and X2 u do need 1000+ battles from which u don't count most battles that u do in fun game modes

[quiet heart]

starting from the chaffee, I have 612 battles in american lights (AND I grinded the t49 twice cuz I got the t54e1). again im f2p so no premium ,no boosters

[rigid thunder]

In total, I've only spent 334 battles to get the sheridan from the M24 chaffee, and 131 was spent on the T49, which I unlocked the T54E1 with

[white storm]

I’d say 600-800 per line is a more realistic number depending on modules and stuff

[deep berry]

From t49 I just won 25 battles and got Sheri missle

[quiet heart]

okay cool, then why you complaining when people now need 140 wins (280 battles on avg) to get JUST the sheri missle. they dont even get the tech tree sheri in this event

[deep berry]

Oh yea wait u do have a point it's just Sheri missle not the tech tree...

But u also forgot even loza event was harder than this

[white storm]

Loza was a breeze

[glass relic]

Loza is easy I don't see a problem.

[deep berry]

This event gonna be even easier , that's the problem

[rigid thunder]

I get that you want the sheridan missile to be a "special" tank limited to only people that got the sheridan in time, but realise that locking out a huge portion of the playerbase from the atgm mechanics is a bad move.

also yes, the loza event was easy

[glass relic]

Loza event is like a handicapped version of 75TS

[deep berry]

I'm Just saying couldent they make atleast 200+ battles do that nubs couldent get it

[white storm]

Most players would take 200+

[rigid thunder]

why not let bad players get it? The tank is for fun only, in special gamemodes. Intentionally barring "bad" players is a terrible idea

[deep berry]

Wait no I change my mind , this is wotb even E75TS was for 5k gold in shop , so nothing matters

[white storm]

You need a 100% wr to get it in 140

[glass relic]

It's just special gamemode only tanks tho, no reason for a low braincells playerbase isn't allowed to have it.

[deep berry]

hmph

Why not atleast give us better compensation like 1k gold is that too much to ask over the grind?

[onyx sluice]

Should've just given it away IMO.

[glass relic]

At least if more nubs uses missile, then it's a win for me they just killing their own DPM

Why bother grinding if you already have the tank yourself?

[white storm]

Lol

[rigid thunder]

So you can sell it for 10 gold, obviously

[quiet heart]

you can get 40 gold boosters from this event (for less then 140 tokens I assume) and that gives you between 400 -800 gold

[glass relic]

Stonks 👍 imagine selling it for 5 gold smh

[deep berry]

And how much for camo , camo looks insane

[rigid thunder]

Gold boosters are temporary, farming sheridan missiles for 10 gold is forever

[deep berry]

10 gold , they raised the price

Edit: lol that's what I said when I had to choose between 133 gal crate and BG
I said crates are temporary BG is forever

In short : WG balanced everything

Like always

[white storm]

The compensation for having the tank already is not having to choose between the tank and gold boosters lol

[deep berry]

Wait u do have a point

[hushed shadow]

@deep berry How much did you get for selling the Sheridan’s special camo?

[deep berry]

u cant sell those

[hushed shadow]

Oh I thought you sold the camo for credits. I now understand you sold the Sheridan for the credits

[past crane]

I need help with the ISU-152. I thought it would be fun, but it's not. No armor, meh mobility, bad gun depression, bad HP, terrible camo, and the thing is always targeted so I never get off a single shot, or usually just get low damage games. The BL-10 is great but I can never utilize it well.

[lyric oriole]

You should be playing long to medium range, and moving up with your team during the latter half of the battles

[lyric copper]

@past crane if you wanna camp, 15m bush rule is important, and wait 3s for camo net too

[past crane]

I discarded the camo net as I found it doesnt snipe great with the gun

[lyric copper]

??? how does camo affect shooting

[past crane]

Thanks a lot, so I should play it more like I do my lightly armored turreted TD's? (that's what I do for tanks such as the Challenger)

[cold star]

IS-6 or Lowe? Which is better for credit grinding, and which is more fun?

[lyric oriole]

You should be sniping the initial parts of the battle using the camo net and such

And then use your gun as a fear factor to help allies and prevent rushes

[past crane]

I switched to optics recently but I can do camo net again ig

[lyric copper]

why use optics on a TD??

[lyric oriole]

Optics on 95% of TDs is a bad idea

[past crane]

some TD's such as agressive ones that are more like heavies like the t28 proto or jagdtiger

[lyric oriole]

ISU isn't an overly aggressive tank

[solid gate]

isu cant play agro much now cuz of heavy hp buff

[past crane]

Ik that, I just found I didn't snipe well in it lol

[lyric copper]

yeah, but ISU isn’t that much of an aggressive TD, it has a mere 1010 HP, 10 more than the SU

use RG and CS, load gold, and see red targets disappear

[past crane]

I hate that part about it, the HP is terrible

[lyric oriole]

The rest of the tank is fine, great gun, troll armor, good mobility

It just trades health for everything it has

[past crane]

alright ok, I just was struggling in it a ton more than the previous tank

[winter rover]

Anybody wanna do a vk.100.01 toon?

[cold star]

IS-6 or Lowe? Which is better for credit grinding, and which is more fun?

[lyric copper]

Löwe @cold star

[cold star]

Thank you

After 3 months of gold grinding with boosters, ads, and clan missions, I'm finally ready to get a tier VIII premium. Now, for a good one to come into the shop...

[quiet heart]

if you're really patient, there's probally the best deals during black friday and the holiday season

[lyric copper]

might wanna save for a T54E2, Obj.252, WZ-112-2, Prog.46, Chimera etc @cold star

[cold star]

That's the dream, hopefully one of them comes out soon. I have 6.5k gold, so by the time one of them comes out, i should have enough to get them

[echo pilot]

i want answers on why the vk 30.01 P's stock is a snail stuck in syrup but the maxed out engine makes it a speed demon. I feel it should be illegal to make a medium tank's stock engine this slow

[wise moth]

@echo pilot It sounds like this is your first stock medium...

Just wait until you play other stock mediums. Like the E-50......

[grand bramble]

What tech tree line should I grind I’ve already got all the British

[hollow notch]

Europe

[fluid imp]

https://prnt.sc/117qctn
now does one hide that without sidescraping, and i cant ever find anything tall enough
DM me with any suggestions

[hollow notch]

A pile of rubble

[solid gate]

i died while reading this

[bright sentinel]

should I get the maus?

[past crane]

Idk, I'm liking the grind so far. If you like lots of HP and soaking up damage for the team, yes grind it.

[hollow notch]

If you like being able to carry by doing nothing, go for it

[past crane]

A bit of an overstatement but with the maus line you are the meatshield for the team

[solid gate]

not an overstatement
Hid behind a dead one once and won the game

[past crane]

Lol

[hollow notch]

I have actually held off 4 tanks when I went afk at the start of a match

[solid gate]

ebic

[hollow notch]

I dunno how the smoothbrains couldn't deal with an afk tank, but I carried while afk, so I'll take it.

[solid gate]

smoth brons

[neat nimbus]

Dang I'm struggling with the e100

[plucky summit]

Alright guys I'm boutta post new tank stats, feel free to absolutely clown me on balance

Here goes

[brave night]

lug shot looks balanced and the top one bit too low alpha (maybe go to 180?)

wait I didnt read it was a autoloader i take that back

[plucky summit]

There ya go :p

[wise moth]

Ridgelines.

[plucky summit]

😳 Ridgelines

[mighty tinsel]

I got a challenge for you.
Make/draw the most OP tank you can imagine.
Even more OP the Annihilator at tier 7.

[plucky summit]

@mighty tinsel you're asking me to fill the page with large numbers 😳

I'll try though

[mighty tinsel]

Thanks.
Also please ping me when you’re done 😄

[plucky summit]

Sure thing

[hollow notch]

See 279 armor profile for reference
and make it sharper

[plucky summit]

🤔 As if I can draw something of such comparable beauty

[hollow moth]

Lowe gun is so strong that it make it's own turret feels like a medium tank module

[solid gate]

VK30P is a heavy actually, it's just classified as med for some reason.

[plucky rain]

If there is an enemy with a big gun in front of you and there is nowhere to hide, do you shoot HE below the gun to ruin the enemy's accuracy?

[solid gate]

I don't because

1. Not wasting bullets
2. It's not guaranteed to do module damage
3. Repair kits exist

[plucky rain]

Shoot the turret ring?@solid gate

[solid gate]

Do not do that and no it’s pretty meh

[glass relic]

Ram the enemy tank in full speed like GuP teaches us.

[marsh thorn]

If BT-7 artillery were given again in the form of an event, it would be a good idea, I say

And if he gives the event to be called veterans' nostalgia

[plucky rain]

100k money
Rich

[glass relic]

The event will just be a free gold + garage slot.

[solid gate]

It’s a fun tank, not meant to be competitive or capitalised for money, I’m actually pretty glad that WG is making it available for players who couldn’t get it for relatively easy

The tank is exclusively limited to game modes and that’s why it’s justifiably easy to get, because 80% of the time it’s a useless tank in your garage. Furthermore, about that part of grinding the Sheridan, by grinding the Sheridan, you have the Sheridan that can be used in public battles, that’s the same as a normal t10 grind and I don’t see why wg needs to compensate you for it

[fluid imp]

think its a prtty easy one, the BP, i bounce anni rounds all the time, and just switch to apcr and that should do the trick probably, havnt faced one in a while

[fluid imp]

but the repair kit can only be used so often, and the explosiveness of the HE will rock the tank a bit anyway right, thus messing with thier aim

true

aim for the gun when u fire ur HE, maybe that will have better chance of damaging it

[solid gate]

Doing that only makes sure you’ll do no damage whatsoever

[fluid imp]

oh, my logic was, if you shoot the gun, it should do damage

everyone says to sidescrape with the cearnavron, but it doesnt help, they just wait for me to show the frontal armor when i fire, and they shoot

[plucky summit]

@fluid imp only hulldown in Caernarvon , it’s not a really good tank for tier 8

Idk who told you to sidescrape, but don’t 😂

[kindred wren]

Yes, don’t sidescrape in the Caernarvon

[fluid imp]

ive been told to sidescrape by EVERYONE but but you 2 that ive asked for advice from to do it

im not that good at sidescraping anyways

[kindred wren]

The only British tanks that are good at sidescraping are the AT 15, Tortoise and Super Conqueror, maybe also the Action X but I’m not sure about that

[fluid imp]

the BP can do it, ive managed to do it on certain occasions

[kindred wren]

And sidescraping in the AT 15 and Tortoise is super dodgy

[plucky summit]

You got trolled I guess

There’s no point in sidescraping with low alpha tanks, because people can just HE you and win the trade

[kindred wren]

Oh, I meant high tier, the BP and Churchills are excellent sidescrapers

[fluid imp]

im best at sidescraping with the churchill mk1, but that could be because i can keep the frontal armor hidden and because of the turret placement still be able to fire without moving back in some cercumstances

for being mostly self taught for most of the tanks ive had, im not too bad, granted before i tried wiggling the BP hullback and fouth to bounce everything i was pretty trash in it

[plucky summit]

Until they load prammo ;-;

[fluid imp]

yea, at that point, its time to active the engine boost, and get out of there as fast as possible

[plucky summit]

You can take a risk and sidescrape defensively, but they can load HE and hit your really weak deck, or even just penetrate your turret with AP

Aight cya

[fluid imp]

why did they pick such a large spot for the weakpoint, the turret is already pretty pennable

[solid gate]

Because all lower plates are weak points

[fluid imp]

seriously, most lower plates are usaly red for heavys to my 20pdr

oh yes, thats another problem, the damage output, most ppl by the time they have gotten to t8 and such, use the bait and switch, so when they come out to fire since they are reloaded they fire, and go back to hiding till they are reloaded again, they deal like 400 damage to one of our tanks, and i only manage 180-220 on them

[plucky summit]

AT 2:

@fluid imp there shouldn’t be many red lower plates to that gun, maybe they’re angling too far and you can shoot somewhere else

[fluid imp]

tanks with lower plates: OH GOD NO NOT THERE!

hull based tank destroyers: NO PENNING ME SUKKA!

[rustic zinc]

So, since my last touch-up here in this channel, I've tried my luck with a KV-1, turns out I'm better at performing with heavy tanks than with light tanks. I'm currently trying to grind the IS-4 line, but I want some advice on which tank should I get, the KV-1S or the KV-2?

[spark basin]

kv 1s, kv 2 is a meme

[marsh thorn]

Friends, I'm new here and maybe my opinions about some tanks will be heard.

As I talked to the people from wg in vain and my opinion is thrown in the trash, it's not even listening, they also give an answer to the spanking

If she gave this event with sheridan now she could have left at least T49 atgm in the game it wouldn't be a good idea for them to make an event with that one more time.

[quiet heart]

the kanonen is a prime example of newer tanks getting insanely detailed models compared to older tanks

[fast compass]

Yep that's a good thing. Hopefully older tanks will get a visual update eventually

[onyx sluice]

I wonder if we will ever see the tank destroyer version of Maus, the Porsche equivalent of the Jagdpanzer E100.

[wise moth]

@fluid imp Most heavy tanks have lower plate weakspots. In fact, at tier 10, the only heavy tank where the lower plate isn't a weakspot is just the AMX 50b, but the entire turret on that thing is a weakspot. Just learn to hulldown using the corners of ridgelines to hide it

[fluid imp]

ok

lol just ask here like 1 time and i get more help than for the past week of asking people for help in training rooms lol

[onyx sluice]

The Leo seems pretty amazing. The alpha damage is a lot of fun, especially on high rolls.

Should I go for the extra HP or stronger armour?

[quiet heart]

i assume you're talking about the swedish leo (since theres 3 leos in the game now lol). probally extra hp in that tank. the armor is decent on the leo, but not good enough that you should really invest an equipment slot into it

[onyx sluice]

That's the one, thanks.

[cold star]

62A or Vickers?

[modest ocean]

Im disappointing on vk 100p, why it so bad? I alway ded

[frigid quest]

62 is more forgiving but Vickers is more useful for comp

[cold star]

You're doing something wrong. The VK 100 is extremely strong when played right. Sidescrape, hide the cupola, wiggle a lot. Wiggling is key to bouncing. Remember, the Maus line is not meant to deal damage, it's there to prevent your team from taking damage. Play with that in mind and you'll do better.

[frigid quest]

^^^

[cold star]

Tank you

[modest ocean]

I see but depending on maps

I see..

[serene widget]

Bro I heard the Waffentrager Auf. Panzer IV isnt real, so what is this?

[cold star]

Edit your earlier message if you want to say something faster without waiting for slowmode

[trim silo]

I think these tanks should be added in as like premium tanks that are either 500 gold coins or 750

[cold star]

No sturmtiger please

[trim silo]

So that's the tank I just couldn't remember its name

Oh yeah wasn't it like an anti infantry tank?

[manic carbon]

If they ever added the sturmtiger, I’d probably guess it would be a temporary event tank or something kind of like the Mk 1 event a few years ago

[solid gate]

Sturmtiger tank idea:

Sturmtiger: Heavy Destroyer of Tier VIII, armor similiar to Tiger II.

Dmg per shoot: 760 (AP), 560 (APCR), 1000 (HESH or HE)
Penetration: on AP 210mm, on APCR 280mm and on HE 30mm.
Reload: 22s (100% Crew) (with consumables and stuff down to 20s)

Tank speed: 22 km/h forward (with consumables up to 25 km/h), backwards: 10 km/h.
Rotation of hull: - very crappy, cant think of anything to balance this tank or anything -

That's all i think of it now, Sturmtiger has to be De-Rocketed hence ATGMs have no place in game, so either AP kind of tank or just full HE/HESH type of one.

[modest ocean]

Does it necessary to upgrade engine for vk 100?

[cold star]

It's always best to upgrade all the modules on any tank. I'd suggest saving free xp for modules, don't spend it on new tanks.

to directly answer your question, yes, upgrading the engine and tracks is crucial to wiggling well

[modest ocean]

Oh ok ty

[solid gate]

Ik but many people wanted that tank to be an ATGM one; i halfly agree with penetration stuff for HE but giving it massive pen would result in an outrage and hatred for it, similiar to Smasher.

They would call it mini-godzilla or something.

Ikr but that's how people are; similiar to that one guy that wanted Maus to have spaced-armored barrel on It's back.

Agreed

[past crane]

It was designed, but never built as far as I know. That could be an irl prototype of the Waffle, idk

only thing I could easily find, it is confirmed it never left the drawing board

[fickle python]

Is the tog good? I might get it

[past crane]

its better but not great

[fickle python]

K then

[plucky summit]

@fickle python if you're curious, estimated 130mm of pen is able to penetrate the blue

[hollow notch]

Oh please

[plucky summit]

Wish they'd fix the 25mm plates behind the tracks, so much worse than ARL's track-damage spots

[hollow notch]

Better than random invincible spots like the k91 has

[fickle python]

Ok what about su100y

[hollow notch]

Tog is better

[plucky summit]

SU-100Y is a good credit grinder, and has a really fun gun, but it's very chonky and not that armored

[hollow notch]

Tog has a solid gun, and plenty of durability to wear through a few tanks. I highly recommend it, as it's also comedic to look at

[snow raft]

chinese is2 > russian is

[hollow notch]

And su100y turns into much less of a credit grinder when you start spamming gold

[plucky summit]

Bam, fun gun

[hollow notch]

Yes, but meme

[snow raft]

tog2 is underrated

[plucky summit]

Yes, I prefer TOG over 100Y anyday, but the gun is so fun on 100Y =(

[fickle python]

Ok thanks for the info guys I'll probably get tog

[hollow notch]

No turret though.

=painnnn

[snow raft]

i bought tog2 as a joke but found out its actually quite good

[hollow notch]

That sums it up perfectly

[snow raft]

if you wanna have a fun tier 6 i can recommend the firefly saunders sp, idk if you buy or just use gold you saved up?

[plucky summit]

Why firefly saunders when M4A3E8

[fickle python]

I bought some gold so I could actually but several tanks

[hollow notch]

Uhhh... actually being able to pen tier 7s is nice

[snow raft]

because the gun is much better

and the protection of anime/plotarmour

[plucky summit]

Oh no they think they become a protagonist with anime tanks

[snow raft]

its amazing, fast, good hit and run

[plucky summit]

Alright I gotta use it on em,

Cromwell B.

End of argument.

[snow raft]

ew

[hollow notch]

I dunno, I'm kinda a pz4s fan

[fickle python]

Yes I have pz4s its op

[snow raft]

dont you mean tie fighter?

unrelated to tier 6 btw but the centurion mk5/1 is also glorious

[plucky summit]

Lowe is the perfect height =3

[raw panther]

Why are there more premiums than tech tree tanks, this game is just pay to win, the only thing I like is the czech branch, which makes the tech tree more competitive, but once wargaming nerfs the czechs the tech tree is just nothing. Example: vk 72.01k vs vk 90, the vk 90 is better at every aspect more than the vk 72.01, In pc it was atleast balanced with a lower alpha which allowed its tech tree.

[snow raft]

haha premium goes brr

[plucky summit]

To be fair though VK 72.01 K is a bad tank by design

They could have at least kept the complete 160mm sides

[raw panther]

Don't gamble for new tanks!😃

[snow raft]

why not? worked with centurion mk 5/1

[plucky summit]

I only spent 5 bucks and got Kanonen o-o

Same with Action X

[raw panther]

just don't

[snow raft]

had enough money for 1 crate so thought why not? why shouldnt i get 1?

[raw panther]

would you rather get the tank free in a bundle in store or having to gamble?

[snow raft]

here it is, being my favourite tier 8

[plucky summit]

"free" "in a bundle in store"

Mate.

[raw panther]

ok bud 😂

[plucky summit]

What? They give free things in their store?

[raw panther]

they won't #1 ok, 2nd it's obvious what answer.

[plucky summit]

I just don't see your point with the "would you rather get the tank free in a bundle in store" because that never happens

[raw panther]

umm it does?

I ment garunteed sorry for misunderstanding

[snow raft]

dont wanna wait months

[plucky summit]

Ah right

Hence I grabbed T-2020 as soon as it came out :p

[fickle python]

Is the tiger 131 worth 2k?

[lyric oriole]

Not really

[fickle python]

Ok

[grand bramble]

Is the m48 Patton worth grinding

[lyric oriole]

Over most of the other meds no

[grand bramble]

Which line is worth grinding t110e5, t57 heavy, is 4, or is 7

[stark sentinel]

E5

[grand bramble]

Why e5 what makes it better then the other ones

[solid gate]

It’s versatile. speedy, kinda accurate gun, very thick turret and good elevation angles make it godly.

[grand bramble]

Ok thank you

[hollow notch]

I hate the e5. Every other pen it gets hits the ammo rack

[plucky summit]

Huh... I've never heard any other tier 10 heavy be rattled for their ammo rack than IS-7

[hollow notch]

The is7 has an ammorack that can blow instantly (the module has 210hp). The e5 takes at least 2 hits to blow it up(260hp), but half ot the hull consists of ammorack, so its constantly getting damaged.

183 does 244 module damage

[forest smelt]

But Saunders lost though, what plot armour?

[wise moth]

Well, the firefly wasn't knocked out, so, plot armor

@hollow notch I straight up 1v2ed 2 full HP E5s because I hit the ammo on both of them, one of them twice

[forest smelt]

Ah, fair enough

[fluid zealot]

How good would yall say the panther 8,8 is?

I barely play any medium tanks, but it seems like it can bounce some hits when it counts, and the gun feels pretty good to use

[solid gate]

It’s worse than the panther 2 as of now

[fluid zealot]

ah... whats wrong with it?

[rigid thunder]

it's a good enough tank, armour profile on the hull is worse than the Panther IIs

[solid gate]

Gun is not special panther 2 does it’s job just fine and has better protection

[fluid zealot]

Huh, i guess it was kinda fishy i got a class 1 badge when i only got like 2.5k damage- do people just not like playing it? Would getting the panther 2 be a better experience?

[frigid quest]

these e5s are not the best players from what it seems

[rigid thunder]

the panther II has slightly worse gun handling and mobility in turn for a better front plate, so the experience should be better to some extent

[fluid zealot]

Hmm, i do like playing as a heavy, ill look into it ig :3

[tulip sundial]

They should add the cent AX for Christmas 2022

[onyx sluice]

Wargaming plz gib.

[quiet raven]

What is the best TD?

[plucky summit]

@quiet raven very hard question

Valentine AT

[quiet raven]

i see

[plucky rain]

How to play Progetto 46 effectively, whether in t8 or in t9?

[hollow notch]

Use mobility to get around the battlefield. Find a distracted target. Dump shells until they start to target you. Run away while reloading the clip. Rinse and repeat

[plucky rain]

how should the Type 59 be buffed without being too OP? Dpm can be a problem for that tank

[wise moth]

As I said, I think a light DPM buff to 2200 would be fine. It's obvious that the DPM is much too low right now, but anything higher than 2200 and it would just be too good relative to other tier 8 meds

[plucky rain]

Now describe what you were do if you are the only medium when playing Progetto 46 in the following maps:
Himmelsdorf
New Bay
Desrt Sands
Canyon
Yukon

And assume there are no more light or medium tanks in your team

[hollow notch]

Himmelsdorf and new bay are easy, there are plentiful of corridors to sneak around in so you can get away with hit and run tactics quite easily.

Desert sands is just a full attack on the desert side it will outgun anything from a fully loaded clip in a 1 in 1. If the desert is empty, free rear shots at enemy rears.

[plucky rain]

If there are 2-3 enemy tanks in the medium lane that you wanna go?

[hollow notch]

Don't you have allies?

If not, the other side of the map is down on tanks, and you need to clean out (push hard) that side of the map before the enemy meds start farming from behind. You have plentiful mobility on the prog. Going anywhere on the map within a reasonable amount of time is possible.

[plucky rain]

What allies when teammates literally go adios in 2-3 mins in asia server
How to support those heavies?

@hollow notch

[solid gate]

imo T57 worse than E5

Ugh why are German tanks so high alpha it’s total crap.

“Hey I have 700 HP I can push that E100 on 400 HP. “

“Haha gun go thunk”

[rigid thunder]

The T57 is much worse than the E5. That tank trades so much in exchange for 2.5s intra and a 1200 clip

[echo pilot]

how should i play the vk 100.01 P?

[hollow ridge]

It's a great tank.
Try to use its speed and get some spots in early.
Then flank around the map and sit in spawn and snipe cause of your lack of armor. Works great.

[hollow ridge]

If you wanted an alternative strat, I'd just find heavy tanks and beat them up.
It's far too slow to do anything other than frontline. So hit the frontlines, angle well, and brawl those other heavies down. Just don't push too hard when you don't have the support. But you have to get to the frontlines asap in the beginning, because your teams need you and if you go find meds to fight they'll drive circles around you. Literally.

[calm adder]

fv215b worth the grind

[solid gate]

Yes if ur good

[calm adder]

k

[solid gate]

How do I deal with Sheris in my FV4202 those things are a annoyance

[terse bramble]

HESH the turret

[solid gate]

Aight

[stiff basin]

But don't try HESHing front of the turret or hull, just sides and back of the turret

[plucky summit]

If you wanna be dodgy, you can shoot the lower plate, or the sides that are above the tracks but below the boxy part, in between them.

[winter oar]

Tbh, I see these equipment and gear appealing

[solid gate]

Thicc equipment

[plucky summit]

I’m gonna make a room tomorrow which’ll be Kanonens vs tier 8 TDs 🤔

[winter oar]

but gotta say. How many tanks have equipnment and add-on gear on other tanks? I just thought of this few mins ago

Also, I am curious what are these marks on the KanonenJagdPanzer(105)? or is it the developers having a bit fun designing it?

[brittle snow]

Think those are snow grousers, just replace the rubber parts of the track for better traction in snow

[modest ocean]

It's worth to get maus?

[still shoal]

guys, what is the best heavy tank in your opinion?

[rigid thunder]

The Großtraktor

[hollow moth]

Leichtraktor @still shoal

[hollow moth]

It's tottaly up to you, are you prepared to grind one of the worsts tier 9 heavies?

[modest ocean]

What should i get then?

[still shoal]

not class III, i'm looking for a class X

IS-7 or Maus?

[modest ocean]

Im gonna try hard this game

Prob will get maus in a week cuz like atleast 40-50k combat xp 1 days

[still shoal]

i'm close to is-7, but i see that maybe i made a mistake, because Maus looks better

[hard cedar]

is7 ammorack position makes it bad

[keen garnet]

Ammoracks occur less frequently then you might think

I have 300+ games in it, been ammoracked like 3-4 times only now that I recall

[hard cedar]

getting an ammorack damaged is also bad tho

[still shoal]

how irritating is it to play against a Maus?

[rigid thunder]

The IS-7 is a great tank, actually my best performing tier 10. I've played 100 battles so far, threw 2 games because of full HP ammoracks which is a shame

[keen garnet]

Don't get that happened too TBH
I have my fuel tanks damaged waay more than the ammorack

[hard cedar]

ah

[keen garnet]

It does have it bad sides though, the traverse sucks and so does the premium pen
If you don't use CS, you can barely pen E100 cheeks with prammo

However the alpha and speed with the combination of decent armor kinda make up for it

I love it

[rigid thunder]

the speed and frontal profile makes the tank, also good AP pen and high alpha

[languid lion]

Spähpanzerkunzekamfwagenkannonenjaggedachtungwaffenträgersonderkraftfahrzeugselbstfahrlafettepanzerfeldhaubitzestürergepanzreteaschinengewehrkraftwagensturmgeschützkampfpanzer mit pak 38cm kwk.waffe XIV Ausführungv K,H,P,V 4000 (t)

[wise moth]

Nah. All T57 does is trade armor for firepower, which is a fine trade. More DPM, accuracy, and the autoloader just make T57 so much more efficient at dealing damage compared to E5's anemic damage output

[glass relic]

Pure 2.5s intra without being a huge barn target is a splendid thing.

[stiff basin]

chieftain mk.6, but its a premium. Other than that, IS-4 or T110E5. If i would need to choose between IS-7 and Maus, I'd choose IS-7, because I don't like slow tanks.

[frigid quest]

E5 and 113

[hollow notch]

Is4

Its idiotproofed to a point where it is just plain dumb

[solid gate]

Not really, they always show that tasty lfp for me

[plucky summit]

Hence it made the player dumb, exposing their lower plate to my juicy 183 HESH

[thick trout]

Still a nice and narrow lower plate right next to the floor and fairly strong upper plate 🤷‍♀️

I'm happy going out in the open and showing my lower plate in mine if I have to because it's just so forgiving in so many ways lol

[plucky summit]

They all think they're tough, going out with their "weak" spots, but they never knew...

I had CS

[static harness]

loads 400mm pen heat rounds with malicious intend

[fickle python]

Is the T57 heavy worth the grind?
(not that the grind is bad I'm just wondering if I should reconsider)

[solid gate]

2nd tier 10, tips?

[lyric oriole]

Lemme grab my copypasta

[balmy wagon]

That's kinda nasty tank

[lyric oriole]

Run Calibrated on it

FV215b 183 is a second line tank, it has enough accuracy to not have to be point blank, it doesn't have enough camo to snipe (but it can with maxed camo Crew skill and camo net).

You should/can support your medium tanks and use your alpha alone as a fear factor to help your allied meds push up against the opponents. If you are playing a second line role be wary of going to areas where you can get hit from enemy tank destroyers.

You may also second line with your allied heavies. It's much easier then with the mediums, the idea here is to eliminate health from the ones that are piñatas, effectively the ones that will try to absorb damage for their team. Kill the confidence of a heavy and the team starts to grind to a halt you should be using AP mostly on the heavies, the HESH even with calibrated shells is too inconsistent on heavies. AP is still a solid 930 alpha so don't get greedy.

(This is only if you have the maxed camo Crew skill, camo net, and camo paint): If playing long range, you should be focusing on key targets: Other snipers, scouts, line breakers Line breakers are heaviums or other well armored tanks that can push and take a beating without repercussions such as AMX 50 B, or E 50 M (yes I know 50M can potentially get ruined but it's still in the category)

You should be running Supercharged shells at this range because the velocity is fairly low and sudden movements by the enemy will throw off your shots. HESH at this range is a bit risky so stick to AP primarily just like against the heavy tanks in a second line setting. Save the HESH as a hail mary or self defense.

[solid gate]

Thanks a lot, so cali and supercharged.

[balmy wagon]

Should i wait for M-IV-yoh or AMX 50B? bcs i want to use my free xp, and i think they'll nerf M-IV-yoh later.

[lyric oriole]

Supercharged is only for long range play, and you should only be doing that if you can max out the camo, since it is your second tier 10 you're gonna have to wait a long time to do that

[solid gate]

I see. Yeah my camo is only at level 5.

So I'll play second line support then.

[lyric oriole]

Pretty much, it's a support tank

There's a lot more to it then just "big gun do big damage"

[solid gate]

I should go with 7 ap, 5 hesh and 3 he right?

[lyric oriole]

That'll work yeah

I run 7 AP, 7 HESH, and one HE

[solid gate]

Thanks a lot.

[plucky summit]

I run 7/8/0, because I have credits to burn

[lyric oriole]

Nah, I take literally one HE she'll because I know there will be at least one time I need to throw a non-pen or guarantee a kill

[plucky summit]

Spall liner steals 25% HE damage, right? Or was it like 40%?

[lyric oriole]

20%

[plucky summit]

Ok, cool, so it's still worth heshing a Grille

Ignoring the most OP part of its armor, the gun

[lyric oriole]

Tbh it's not worth it unless you have a clear, unblocked shot on the hull

You get 110 more damage

[plucky summit]

I usually find em too open for a turret gamble

[lyric oriole]

I'm Jageroo definitely worth it

800 vs 1000

183 it goes 930 vs 1040

[plucky summit]

+160 over average AP with average spalled HE

[solid gate]

am i the only one hitting Grille's gun most of the time with HE?

[lyric oriole]

Which is why it's not worth lobbing HE at in most tanks now, even some of the ones that still get marginal damage increases

You splash you still do reduced damage and you'll drop to about 400

[plucky summit]

Well at least I can still bully meds and heavies, and larger TDs.

Half of the light tanks have been HESH protected =(

[solid gate]

I feel like ramming Grille is most efficient when you have a chance to do so

[plucky summit]

Yes, ram the Grille

There's no way any of their 6 teammates will have a problem with it, let alone the Grille

[solid gate]

"When you have a chance to do so"

[plucky summit]

You see, you forgot the word "safe"

[solid gate]

and by that i dont mean stupidly rushing at enemy team

Ramming a grille isn’t efficient at all

[solid gate]

I didn't thought i would need to type that in aswell since that was pretty obvious

[plucky summit]

In the world of Blitz players, you can't leave it too open for interpretation :p

[lyric oriole]

The tracks on grille generally protect it well, and it weighs a surprisingly high amount

[solid gate]

I see, forgive me then, Chicken-san

[plucky summit]

bok bok

Imagine wanting other players to be better, which just puts you at a disadvantage assuming your skill stays the same, since the enemies would benefit 7 to 6

Complaining about matchmaking, when basically most multiplayer games also disregard skill in random matches

At least Blitz isn't as scammy sometimes like a battle royale game

[solid gate]

Only thing bad about it is probably the op tanks.

[plucky summit]

Blitz is an understandably complex game, having a bare-bones tutorial like most games, and still remaining challenging because of the many usable mechanics in it

[solid gate]

I am kinda tired of people talking about how broken some tanks are

[plucky summit]

Remember when people though 252U was blatantly OP because of some red coloring?

If 252U's upper plate was nerfed to 120mm, it would still perform the same in terms of frontal engagement, without angling

Shells would still autobounce, HEAT wouldn't have enough penetration to punch through

[solid gate]

Yes.

Also, we've been discussin' on the entirety of OP tanks and their weaknesses and stuff for days now but still, people claim that those are made out of pure titanium.

like, those tanks have weaknesses and can be destroyed just like any other tanks but people still dont learn that

[plucky summit]

It's actually kinda funny how fast Annihilator has sunk below Smasher

[solid gate]

Pretty ironic imo

[plucky summit]

In terms of win ratio though, it still has the lead, but in performance, Smasher wins

I'm going to assume there will be a while before people get completely used to it

[solid gate]

They will have to get used to it as we will surely get a few more broken tanks like that in future

[plucky summit]

I'm happy people are learning they ways of Mother Russia

IS-7 has improved WR by 3.6%

My 30 day kill ratio over 23 battles is 6.80 xD

[solid gate]

Noice

[plucky summit]

Dang that makes it look like I nail Raseinais before I die, sample bias for the win

[solid gate]

So basically chickens are OP in Blitz

[plucky summit]

More like 183 is OP when people begin using hard cover with them

[solid gate]

True that

[plucky summit]

Oh I'm spotted? Be a shame if I positioned myself in a way that a building will block your shot

[solid gate]

Platoon of batchats: Bonjour

[plucky summit]

Mm yes and I happened to be supporting my teammates who are able to reciprocate assistance

[solid gate]

Lol

[plucky summit]

Oop nvm I had an average team

[fickle python]

Heh

[hearty wren]

perhaps make a sub branch from M41 that ends with the M8 Buford

[plucky summit]

Appears to be too modern

[solid gate]

Than again we have a chieftain and a MBT-70

[plucky summit]

=(

[hearty wren]

it would make sense with a quick reload

[high anvil]

Any thoughts on the IS-5? I just got it as my first tier 8 premium to grind credits but I'm not doing great in it since I didn't grind the tech tree IS lines. I usually play TDs and german heavies/mediums.

I know not to angle because the front plate is pre-angled, and to hide the pike nose, but it still feels like everything just goes straight through upper plate. I have 60% winrate over 5k battles but I'm 40% in IS-5 over 50 games now, I'm doing pretty bad.

[plucky summit]

IS-5 is your fighter heavy, disposable, not something worth preserving in battle

The upper plate stops working when you get close and personal with enemy heavies, or even some distance away from them, you have to rely on your turret, hulldown as much as you can if you want to bounce shells

[high anvil]

Honestly it might be a problem with my heavy tank gameplay in general rather than the IS-5 specifically. Most games I try to take up an aggressive position and control the flow of battle and it goes sour. Idk, I did the same in my Tiger 1 and Tiger 2 and have good winrate with those. I know IS-5's gun accuracy is also infamous but with stabilizers I don't really have a problem with that. It's mostly surviving and DPM

When I peek-a-boom for good alpha I fail to bounce and just take the same amount of damage back

idk I'm bad, just sucks because I bought it just for credits and I'm not making any

[plucky summit]

Yup, Lowe took that job

@mighty tinsel

[mighty tinsel]

Lmao awesome.
Hybrid nation?

[plucky summit]

mmm, sure

[kindred wren]

Maximum Shell Capacity: 6

Le balans has many forms

[low rampart]

@high anvil You don't buy any tank for credits, it must be preferably a mobile tank with high DPM, so you can quickly and safely gain credits. The harder it is to deal damage, the less credits you'll get for your time.

[high anvil]

Yeah I'm figuring that out now

From the way I heard everyone speak, I thought tier 8 premiums just made an easy amount of credits even on bad games

Just wish I'd known that before because the IS-5 really isn't the kind of tank I enjoy, I only got it because it's cheap and I thought I'd grind credits on it

[plucky summit]

Lowe makes it ez profit even on a loss ._.

[high anvil]

Now tbh I'm this close to pulling the trigger on the Panther 8.8 because I know the credit coefficient is better and it's a good tank to farm. People say it's a waste of gold because it's just a weaker Panther 2 but I love the Panther 2 so tbh I'm not opposed to spamming a version of it that earns me money

[low rampart]

Look at the bright side, at least you didn't pay a ton of money on it. Make sure the credits tank has mobility, dpm, isn't a bad tank and you perform relatively well with that kind.

It's ridiculously easier to gain credits this way, meanwhile with tech tree tanks you can win all night and end up with negative credits.

[mighty tinsel]

What about Borsig and WT Auf?

[floral rain]

Honestly with the state of tier 8 prems, especially tier 8 premium meds, my thought is to go big or go home.
Unless you really want a certain tank you might as well just get a meta tier 8

[high anvil]

Exactly so the idea was to not buy the Panther 8.8 and just get the IS-5 to save gold while waiting for meta tanks. But now idk, I hate the IS-5 and I'm not making money with it. I know I'll do good in the 8.8 but objectively it's not the best tank. I had about 8.5k gold saved up so I'm hesitant to spend most of it on non-meta tier 8s

[low rampart]

@mighty tinsel There are other tanks which are good to earn credits, my advice is for easier premium choices. For the experienced players, any tank which you excel at will give you enough.

[kindred wren]

The IS-5 isn’t even a good choice - and never was

[high anvil]

And then I wouldn't feel bad about selling the Panther II for the E-50 considering I'd have a premium panther 2 that I'd play often for credits

[mighty tinsel]

Is Borsig and Waffentrager a good choice?

[high anvil]

idk, I'm really considering the panther 8.8 instead of waiting for meta tier 8. Do I have brain damage?

[kindred wren]

If you ask me you should just take a tank that you like, because if you like a tank and like to play it, you will be much more likely to play a lot more in it and thus generate more credits anyways

[floral rain]

tbh no, everyone does what they want
true brain damage is me bouncing 5 shots in a row

[kindred wren]

And you’ll enjoy yourself. But as a word of warning, the Panther 8.8 is not like the Panther II

[kindred wren]

Ha! You haven’t seen me miss five shots in a row

[solid gate]

What do I do in my E5 if I can’t find a hull down position

[kindred wren]

Or bounce three shots in a row on the AMX 50 B turret. I am sometimes surprised myself how I manage to hit exactly the spots I need in order to bounce

[low rampart]

@mighty tinsel I have no experience on those two tanks regarding credits.

[kindred wren]

You will always find a hulldown position

[floral rain]

ok but the 50b's turret, especially towards the gun, has some really weird curves

[kindred wren]

The question is not what you do when you can’t find a hulldown position, the question is which objects and terrain types can be used as a hulldown position

[low rampart]

@high anvil If you perform well with medium tanks, that's a good choice. The credits coefficient is pretty good.

[high anvil]

Yeah, I'm mostly a TD player but I do well with the Panther and Tiger lines

idk maybe I wait for something like a jagdtiger 8.8 which would be more up my alley? If that even makes good credits. Good DPM but low mobility

Because yeah, I feel like I'd enjoy the Panther 8.8 but it's true that the armor is pretty integral to how I play it. Having good positions from afar can get you a surprising amount of damage blocked and if the 8.8 can't do that I might actually just not like it either lol

The ideal solution would be just getting a couple million credits for free to buy all the waiting tier 9s and 8s I've got researched 😬

[low rampart]

The Jagdtiger 8.8 is an unholy sin, like a chocolate cake at 2 am. Should have bought that one already...

[high anvil]

tbh I had enough gold for it before I bought the IS-5. But I wouldn't have bought it at full tech free price, rather just wait for a deal for 5k with all the goodies

Okay I'll hold off on the Panther 8.8 and just wait then. Meanwhile I'm grinding credits on tier 5 panzer V/IV and enriched tech tree Stug

Which is slow but the IS-5 isn't any faster so 🤷‍♀️

[plucky summit]

How much gold for the P8,8?

Oh, 5k

Interesting, despite having 180%, 5% under the Lowe, it won't serve too well in comparison, as Lowe can, more effectively, make credits

[glass relic]

It's basically just average tonk, can't expect to get much credits without the correct hand

Not to mention its medium, where it cannot survive like a HT long enough to farm damage longer.

[plucky summit]

And Lowe having, arguably the most effective gun for tier 8 heavies

Lemme run that past T34 real quick though

Yeah Lowe takes the cake imo

[glass relic]

Pretty much lowe allows you to snipe, snap shot, farm effectively. But that also works towards other efficient heavies too as long they can survive most engagements in terms of the driver decisions.

[solid gate]

Ok, underrated opinion, Jpanter (VII) Is as overpowerd as the likes of Smasher (VII) and Annihilator(VII).

6.6s reload over 310 damage :)

[glass relic]

After the armor buff it becomes an amazing tank, same goes with T25 AT, and Chi To SPG (After it got released and till today still is)

[frigid quest]

Jpanther no doubt is a very good tank but it is still very manageable conpared to the annihilator.

[solid gate]

That doesn’t prove anything

Nope, i just love the tank :p

I mean face to face i lose to a Annihilator, but those 2 tanks fill 2 different shoes.

If you, well. Use your team, an Annihilator is not really that much of a threat😅 atleast in my expiriance

[glass relic]

The tank itself yes but the driver, makes more of a nightmare.

Even if you think it's not a threat better off killing them first as for having less broken tank on your enemy team means better chance of your team to win and do something useful.

[solid gate]

Yeah i know, Annihilator and smasher are the one tanks i want to kill. Because their so broken it is so much fun to get them out of the game early on😄👌

[glass relic]

Yeah not to mention you get the urge of pleasure like just used a magic power to clear up a heavy storm over your area.

[solid gate]

Yes exactly😂

[glass relic]

And tad bit of salty spice to the driver 🤌

[solid gate]

I once killed a tiger 2 (he was full hp in my jpanter) from the front.

I was so happy that i did that that i remembered it, he was shooting at the tank behind me so i could kill him

What the odd thing was, i could not pen his lowerplate but i could pen his couple

Got a mastery a Top Gun and high call too,

[plucky summit]

If stats proved anything I'd make 183 look like the people after you say deez who

[solid gate]

Sorry not high call, i did 3.1k with 4 kills

[glass relic]

Well if you do good on something you like, then you have rights to be proud even if someone is telling you the opposite.

[cinder musk]

I want the instigator paint but never got the offer would you get it eventually?

[hard cedar]

offer is after first win iirc

[cinder musk]

I have done the first battle with the tank and no offer

[hard cedar]

i think it has to be a win

[cinder musk]

I got a few wins as well and still no camo offer

So idk what is wrong so should I put a missing camo or would it still come in?

[hard cedar]

uh

im not sure honestly, for me camo offers came after first win every time, try relogging? dunno

[cinder musk]

I mean I have a bit of games in it

[glass relic]

Usually offer is when you get a good game on the tank.

[honest ice]

bro i absolutely SUCK at this tank for some reason, how aggressively do you play?

[low rampart]

@honest ice I don't have it (yet) but I would use it with a mix of Jagdpanther aggressiveness, a bit slower like you would a Jagdtiger due to its similarities with the 8.8. The fixed turret is a challenge for most players, gotta get the hang of it first.

[honest ice]

Yea what happens most of the time is that I keep thinking it's a heavy tank. And end up going too close and hit by APCR/HEAT.

Never played casemates before

[cinder musk]

I played really good but still no luck

[solid gate]

Ah yes, ob 279 Early but fictional version

[ocean lantern]

Is the T34 good? The tier 8 premium

[glass relic]

Its pretty nice and good, if you like to use a good tank for an example of what American HT could do then T34 is your pick.

Overall tank is just a mediocre hulldowner/ridgeline fighter.

[solid gate]

It’s a weird case it can’t really fight and it’s pretty squishy it’s only main advantage is penetration even hull downing won’t do it much good

[sharp kettle]

Should I buy this?

I have 6000 gold

[stiff basin]

If you'd like the tank, then its worth it

[rigid thunder]

look at its stats on blitzhangar, then make your choice

[plucky rain]

Imagine not having the T34 heavy tank like 4 years ago

[keen garnet]

;~;

[spark basin]

chad prammo

[solid gate]

shall i get the t54 XI or the leopard XI ?

[wind burrow]

T54

[hard cedar]

leo harder to play

[azure patio]

6200 is my gold rn. Should I get this , or wait instead , or add 900 to it and but T26E4?

[frigid quest]

T34 is a decent premium with a decent turret and high penetration. T26E4 on the other hand is arguably even more sad than the Pershing

[errant cloud]

is the tiger 131 offer for atleast 5 dollars usd worth it?

[azure patio]

I think Im gonna buy the offer 20 x5 can help me max my M103 and 30 days prem is huge . Tank is decent itself

[frigid quest]

131 is what a premium should be at the first place, they should not be at the same level or better than tech tree counterparts (should still be unique though). However, most premiums basically break this rule now and its better to save your gold for premium time, tier ten crew, or a tier 7-8 premium

[errant cloud]

Oh so its better to save for a tier 7-8th premium?

[azure patio]

@frigid quest here goes nothing

Tho I wont be able to play it for like 40 games. Cant use x5 on a premium xd

[mellow marten]

Is this the only time to get the KannonenJgPz or will it be up for grabs by gold later?

[sturdy bane]

it'll definitely come back, probably for gold cause it's not OP

[mellow marten]

Perfect

Don't have to spend 100 for tank again

[torn mountain]

T34 is an awesome tank, amazing hull down which is how you should play it. Turret is super strong and its pretty much impenetrable. Top tier you can get some decent hull bounces but don't rely on that at all. Your hull is easily penned by fellow tier 8s and tier 9s. Gun is fantastic with 400 Alpha. HE works wonders on TDs like the Borsig. Hope that helps. (T34 is one of my favourite tanks in blitz).

[torn mountain]

Lmao

[torn mountain]

Imagine buying crates.

[spiral sedge]

Nice:))

[torn mountain]

100% fantastic tank and a great deal for all the stuff you get. Outside that deal all of that combine would be like 12k gold.

[torn mountain]

131 is an alright tank, but i would wait until the 2500 offer comes around with 30 days of premium. Then your getting more for your money. 131 is easily penned from,the front. Gun is mediocre. Speed is alright for its class. Dont rely on your armor as you will be killed quickly. Play it like a sniper. But don't camp like a TD stay behind your heavies poke out shoot and repeat.

[brave night]

Tiger 131 is a realistic tiger in a unrealistic game

[keen latch]

salami tank

[wind burrow]

Guys t34 offer worth it ? I already have lowe,obj 252u, Chimera, M1A4 REV, Jagtig 8.8, t26E4 as tier 8 permium! Should i go for t34 ?

[hollow ridge]

@wind burrow offer?
It's worth it if you get it for about 5k gold and 30 days premium plus stuff.
I wouldn't buy it for 7,600 good because WG will offer the T34 for a much better deal every 3 months or so.

T34 is a good tank, but just wait for a deal.

[frigid quest]

I would normally say yes but you also have a Chimera and a 252U so you may want to save your gold unless if you want to avoid a high WN8 bar

[azure patio]

Kanonenjadgpanzer looks like an uncircumcised male genital organ lmao

[torn mountain]

As I said above. T34 is absolutely worth it I would highly recommend it.

[azure patio]

I bought it , its an hulldown king and its ap pen wont let you down in tier 9 mm

[wind burrow]

That is the offer i meant

[hollow ridge]

Okay. You cant go wrong with it, imo. It's a good tank. And a good deal.
It just depends on how much you want it. Maybe watch some youtube videos on it if you want to.

[wind burrow]

Okay thanks guys, I'll go for it

[hollow ridge]

@wind burrow I personally love the tank.
Use it right and you'll be happy and make good credits too

[solid gate]

Camo or optics for 183?

[hollow ridge]

Camo

[solid gate]

Thanks.

[hollow ridge]

:)

[stiff basin]

Depends on how you play it

[latent hemlock]

Foch 155 or obj 268

[sour quiver]

I bought the kv5 two weeks ago and it still hasn’t showed up in my garage and it did say successful purchase

[manic carbon]

Have you gone to player support?

[sour quiver]

Yes I Reyes but there’s nothing in there for missing tank

[manic carbon]

Go to payments, then choose purchase problem @sour quiver

Also this is common to happen, do you have any tank filters on in your garage that could hide the KV-5?

[sour quiver]

No I do not

I’ll double check

Ty

But I can’t get the pic right now

[solid gate]

@wargaming how far can atgm shoot with the missiles?

[drifting shell]

Is the Sheridan missle even worth getting? I don’t even have any tier 8 tanks

[kindred thorn]

if you dont have any t8s then you might as well go for the gold boosters instead

[light blaze]

Just got the T28 how is she? What ammo works best for it?

[plucky rain]

In tier 9, T34 turret is quite paper tho

[frigid quest]

the best ammo for it i HE, it does more damage

[high anvil]

Heard lots of people say it’s the worst tank in the game and that you should skip the entire thing with free XP. Personally I played it out and had a 60% winrate on it, found it very underrated. Good gun

[lyric oriole]

It's actually not a bad tank

[high anvil]

Basically need fuel provision and engine boost consumable. If you see your whole team running ahead of you, don’t hesitate to pop it at the start of battle so you’re not too late, you’ll get another use later in the fight. Getting to an influential position early is key so you can put that gun to work

[light blaze]

Yea lol it’s definitely a “stay in one place and snipe” tank.

[high anvil]

Surprisingly manoeuvrable, obviously it’s no LTTB but the t95 is much worse in that regard IMO

With engine boost you can turn fast enough against some mediums trying to circle you and smack them

Armour can be frustrating, combined with low HP pool. You think armour should be good because it’s so slow and leads to t95, but no. It’s mostly good from a distance or if you wiggle. Good players will pen you from the front a lot

[torn mountain]

My bad completely forgot to look at the uptier. Yeah the turret can be weak if you don't angle it right. Your cheeks become quite weak.

[high anvil]

Don’t get me wrong, you CAN bounce a lot of shots, but sometimes you wanna trade shots against far away heavies and take 3 x 300 damage back without bouncing anything and just be like “okay then I thought I had armour”

And be careful about wiggling too much or over angling because sides are weak

[plucky rain]

And suffer the whole match because hp loss

[light blaze]

Yea thanks.

[light blaze]

I’m getting the credits to buy it because I lost all mine in the galactic riches event.

[high anvil]

Oh and btw I didn’t grind it stock. Idk if you have free XP for gun or engine but the stock grind looks absolutely brutal

So maybe something to keep in mind

[light blaze]

@high anvil is it stock Emil 1 bad? Because that was absolutely painful.

[brittle blade]

All the vehicles need to have a bit lower prices on xp and credits

[high anvil]

@light blaze Never played that, can't comment.

[light blaze]

@high anvil the stock engine is so terrible that it’s almost unplayable.

[tame jungle]

250 meters

[ebon parrot]

does the wz113 have a lengedary camo

[tame jungle]

Yea

[wise moth]

Yeah, but it makes your tank look like a Chinese passport

[brave night]

no cap

[ebon parrot]

so not that cool got it

[trim heart]

Happy Birthday, WZ-Blaze!!!
🥳 🥳 🥳

[plucky rain]

I'll blaze the blaze's rear with HE

[trim heart]

As one does

[zealous anchor]

Nice selfie

[frigid quest]

i actually like the bronze warrior but i know a lot who dont

[plucky summit]

I see only traverse being bad and wahh IS-4 exists

[solid gate]

Which tiger is better kuro or 131?

[magic dune]

they're so close to each other, module wise, its not worth trying to find out imo

[tepid geyser]

They literally have the same exact stats, if you look them up on tankcompare, you'll see it's literally copy paste

[hybrid compass]

26 more wins and I get the Sheridan missle

[magic dune]

wait really? i thought kuro had like slight armor over 131 and 131 had slight engine over kuro

[tepid geyser]

Kuro has justtt a bit over the 131 in terms of engine power, armor doesn't show, but as far as I remember, it's the same @magic dune I could be going monke too though

[solid gate]

imo vehicles with historical/realistic legendary camos are better than the ones with seemingly random legendary camos (Gold 121, That Chinese heavy, TVP)

[full sundial]

ooooof

[glass relic]

Different taste different result, some like more historic and realistic, some like semi realistic and flashy fantasy camo that would look cool on their favorite tanks.

[onyx sluice]

I would just be happy with more camos in general, legendary and ordinary. And a little more detail would be appreciated, like the ones on PC.

[solid gate]

For anyone thinking about buying the t34 falcon the exp boosters are not only for the falcon they’re for any other t8 tank but only tier 8s

Would’ve loved to see the löwe instead in the offer but its what its

[nocturne tiger]

I just bought the Grille 15.. How do I play it?

[median tree]

snipe

[brittle snow]

What's the biggest part of the tank, use that

[hearty wren]

take two pramo players, have them 1v1, and you get the answer

[glass relic]

In term of stats, it's Kuro having slightly better advantage.

[rigid thunder]

no

[lyric oriole]

It's birthday was in February

It's like if I said happy birthday to someone from the first time I met them because they didn't exist to me until then

[solid gate]

Lol

[static harness]

Why the hell is the WT auf (150) so busted?

[plucky summit]

Full turret, sneaky derp gun. I think that’s it

[hollow notch]

Gun depression and mobility as well

[warm gazelle]

which site are u using?

[tepid geyser]

Blitzstars, top of the page there’s a little “tank compare” thing, click on that and you can compare any tank in the game

[warm gazelle]

ty

[tepid geyser]

Np, also awesome pfp

[warm gazelle]

❤️

[solid gate]

https://youtu.be/1IpTzC8yvsw

Adddd this in geam

[young reef]

hey anyone know how to make the T49's reload 16 seconds?

[solid gate]

Full crew and dual food

[young reef]

k thx

[kindred thorn]

What is so great about the t57 heavy

[frigid quest]

good gun with decent dpm, high penetration, good handling, 2.5 intraclip, and fast traverse and everything else is eh

[brave night]

Troll armor

[tight raven]

How good is the Progetto 46’s aim cause in one battle in gravity it hits me (T-54 ltwt) 4 times when it was flying around

[frigid quest]

Its a very good tank. High clip potential, troll mantlet, anti T49 skirts, and good mobility. DPM is pretty bad though

[onyx sluice]

I was grinding the EMIL 1 but haven't played an autoloader before (except low tier ofcourse) should I get the Skoda T25 just to get a feel for the high tier autoloaders?

[neat nimbus]

Any predictions of what tank may be coming back to the store

I'm waiting for the action x with the resolute camo I like how spaced armor is green

[frigid quest]

decided to get the 140 on the main account after having a blast on a alt, its op

[plucky rain]

Do you know the Smasher and Annhilator can be penned by HE from the front?

[warm gazelle]

HE of the deathstar?

[spice cipher]

Hello all, I started yesterday with the game and I really like it. What is/are best tank/s to have from start? What to spend on?

[magic dune]

this is mostly opinion, for beginners i would recommend the is7. It has a decent line and the tier 10 is relatively simple. However it does have a bad ammo rack problem. It shouldn't happen too much but it does, so be weary of it if you get it. Other than an is7, I think an is4 is a okay second option. It has a really bad line but its a great tier x. I recommend getting a heavy before anything else first so you learn the game's mechanics, which you can then use to get other classes of tanks. But if you really want to get a medium, I would say the t62a. Good line and good tier x, doesnt take too much skill to get used to it. Lights are for more advanced players as you need to know spotting ranged, bush locations, and advanced stuff. For a td, I would recommend something like a 268. It's a jack of all trades and kind of easy to learn. Good line aswell as highest heat pen. Like I said, I would get is7 or a heavy first to learn the mechnaics of the game. NEVER spend money(irl) on the normal offers if thats what you are talking about, compared to the offers they are never worth.

[glass relic]

The best tank are T1 Heavy and BDR just play the tank till you're confident enough to move up to higher tiers. I suppose being confident isn't good when there's no one going to judge how you play, so to start climbing tiers just watch pro's guide or learning from people who aren't brainless nor monke

[stiff basin]

It depends. If you want a tank destroyer with a powerful gun, but without a turret, get the OBJ 268 (Russian). If you want a medium with good turret armour, decent mobility and great gun, get the T-62A. You can get OBJ 140, its faster, but has worse gun, worse turret armour and better hull. If you want a heavy tank with some decent armour and mobility, but not the greatest gun, get the is-7. IS-4 has some great armor, better gun than IS-7, but the line is harder to grind than others. Stock ST-I is pure pain, KV-4 isn't the easiest tank to play. If you want to get a T-62A, go for the MT-25, not T-34-85. Anyway, go for the Russian tanks.

[glass relic]

I don't understand why people recommend straight to T10 and not low tier ones for a new fish to learn first before actually understanding what is a tank tier and roles.

[stiff basin]

I'm just saying that these lines are good for new players. Watching some guides is also important

[glass relic]

Well theyre good and easy, if you know what you're doing but if the person doesn't know then he will just stuck in a limbo of rushing a T10 tank and being overconfident about his improvements, that's what I'm thinking, but different people has different perspective on teaching somebody.

[stiff basin]

Yeah, but even if you get stuck on these lines, its not as bad as getting stuck on something like AMX AC 46....

[magic dune]

unless ur a reroll ur gonna get thru the tiers relatively slow

and so during that time i assume he will learn?

[glass relic]

Its a funny tank and easy to skip.

[magic dune]

idk though that is a fair point, cause i never did when i first started playing

[glass relic]

When i first play this game i had a background of tank games from WoTPC and WT, I know what I'm doing but not fully understand how the game works, overtime i learned a lot of things so basically it just a matter of time and someone's commitment on improving themselves.

[plucky rain]

By SU 152

[solid gate]

guys i gust got the sheridan missle from the shop

i can't use it in normal matches right?

[plucky summit]

Correct

[manic carbon]

@solid gate only training rooms and most fun modes

[solid gate]

right

• i just finished grinding the kranvgn line, any suggestions on what to grind next?

[glass relic]

113-gft

[solid gate]

thx

[plucky summit]

That was a joke, do not grind that amazon box

[onyx sluice]

Maybe the T57 heavy? Atleast that's what I am going to grind after I finish the Kranvagn myself.

[plucky breach]

we all know KV-2 the heavy tank, BUT why its heavy tank when it doesnt have the best armor on turret and body, shouldnt it be a tank destroyer then?

[rigid thunder]

not all heavy tanks have the best armour

[plucky breach]

okay but heavy tanks atleast have armor in front plate or on the turret while you can pen kv-2 really easily, every tank have weakness in lower plate or turret but kv-2 in my oponion should be tank destroyer

[rigid thunder]

the KV-2 has actual decent armour, not the best but not the worst. You can definitely sidescrape in it, and the turret isn't a guranteed pen.
More importantly, tanks aren't classified in this game simply by the caliber of their gun or the strength of their armour profile, but by their actual classification irl. The KV-2 is quite literally based off a heavy tank, chassis and all, and was built with full intent of it being a heavy tank with capability to assault fortifications

[plucky breach]

its just armoured house for stalin with 152mm :DDD

[frigid quest]

If you are new, you generally cant get wrong with the Soviets other than the 263 line and half of Germany

[frigid quest]

The T-34-85 line is more forgiving and T-44 and T-34-85 are excellent tanks. The problem is really the exp cost

[dreamy nymph]

Well think of it this way if say the AMX M4 45 had a big gun on it, it would still be a heavy despite its bad armor and big gun

[covert dagger]

Just learned about this tank.

[neat nimbus]

i wish in blitz you could put camos on the eagle 7 even if saturation wont be good

[neat nimbus]

some are historical and does have that option

cromwell b

loza's sherman

but still a shame doesnt have the option to equip camos

[solid gate]

That’s kinda the point of the tank it’s it’s own “camo” for a reason since it’s a war relic and not another Pershing model

[neat nimbus]

now i must grind gold

[plucky summit]

🤔

[brave night]

r u just obsessed with autoloaders

also pretty weak tank

[plucky summit]

I just realized I assigned tier 8 penetration logic to tier 9, my bad

I became obsessed with boxes over the track covers with a turret ring intruding into them. Then thought the Emilish turret design was cool, and slapped that bad boy together

The autoloader part came naturally with the turret

New values for the pen are 250/310/40
😅

[solid gate]

I don’t get it

[plucky summit]

Elaborate

[solid gate]

Can a leopard kill Tiger 131?

[plucky summit]

Yes

Though it's hard with just AP

[solid gate]

Apcr?

[plucky summit]

Yup, that solves a few problems, as always

[solid gate]

Nice

Welp thanks for that

[plucky summit]

(_b o-o)_b

[plucky rain]

Provided t5 is running calibrated shells and hitting an unangled 80mm side and rear
And the Tiger 131 user is a dumb player

[solid gate]

Ok tanks

[solid gate]

Upgraded Abram

I just put more and more reactive armor here and there. Replace 2000’s armor with nano crystal steel and ceramic composite armor light weight

And idk, some hybrid turbine engines

[solid gate]

Yes

[raven jacinth]

lmao nice

@solid gate though I don't believe double track sets would be really effective as history has told us

on the side note: interesting info... an 130mm armament was considered for the FV4202 https://youtu.be/CKnUIcjkL74

[keen garnet]

That looks heavenly lmao

[solid gate]

Test Bed

[solid gate]

That’s not double tracks set, it’s a texture of track

[raven jacinth]

my bad I didn't mean for you to get confused I used the wrong words, I meant quadruple tracks

[fossil scaffold]

I have got Kranvagn. Its beautifle and very god tank.

[marsh totem]

Why no girls and panzer tech tree

[golden wagon]

cuz money

[solid gate]

The 3 ton engine of the TOG II

[visual hatch]

M36 valor? i think it's originally taiwanese but it is implemented from real life. Tiger 131 is one as well i think

[vague spindle]

this is my own design of BP tank named STALKER. It´s from chernobyl battle pass wich I invited. Itś colectiber version of T-34/85

[glass relic]

Get out of here, stalker

[icy scroll]

Kv-4 is incredible armor, I liked it, I managed to handle a lot of damage with his armor in a lot of matches

is that kv-4 tower worth it? I would lose 2 km/h to gain another 8 millimeters of armor, is it worth it for me to research?

[plucky rain]

Your choice, but the top turret is better imo

[icy scroll]

I got it, thanks

[copper swan]

How to maintain the highest damage per minute when using autoreloaders?

Such as Progetto 65 and Kranvagn

[tropic mica]

use as a single shot vehicle. easy

[fast compass]

Depends on which tank you are talking about. Each has slightly different stats. Progetto has best dpm at empty clip, kran has best dpm at 2nd shell. Anyways, Your aim shouldn't be to have max dpm shell at all time.

If you have the opportunity to drop a clip do so.

You should be aware about what can happen In battle. Sometimes it might be better to hold and dump clip later

[copper swan]

Hmm ok

[fast compass]

Fatness did a good progetto htp video, he goes over how to use clips well

https://youtu.be/n_cOTs3pemw

[copper swan]

Still feel that something is missing for that tank despite the video
Watched it before

[fast compass]

Well then i am not sure how much more i can help. I am just above avg

[copper swan]

Thanks anyway

[stiff basin]

Which gun should I choose on AT-15 and should I research the last gun on AT-7?

[pliant lodge]

@stiff basin use the DPM gun. Don't use the alpha gun.

[stiff basin]

Ok, thanks for advice.

[solid gate]

How do u know how far you're looking when in sniper mode

Since there's no draw distance rings or view range rings

[tepid geyser]

you can toggle a distance thing in settings, shows how far away tanks are

[keen garnet]

Settings > HUD > Range Thingy

[solid gate]

Yo that’s dope idea

[ocean lantern]

Does anyone have any Su 152 tips? I was really good in it but I sold it and now I suck for some reason

[kindred thorn]

go for those isolated targets you can just blap in one shot

[neat nimbus]

Is a worth the bulky one?

[tardy arrow]

its only good in gravity

[solid gate]

Not that much anymore tho

[tardy arrow]

nah its still broken especially in toons

[hushed shadow]

Doesn’t the VK 100 perform better? The 168’s sides are much easier to pen than the 100

[tardy arrow]

168 is heavier

[solid gate]

Yes, the sides of VK 100 are a bit trollish, but VK 168 has flat side armor

[plucky summit]

@solid gate a 20 degree angle doesn't do much, even if you're sidescraping

The spaced armor is what VK 100 gets, and the base sides are thick enough to block nearly direct hits against them

If you want someone to have a slightly higher chance of boucing your sides, get VK 100

If you want weight and a faster aim time, get VK 168

In the charts it has better stats all around except a bit of survival rate

[bright tendon]

I just finished the leopard 1 line

Does anyone have any recommendations on which line I should start next

[kindred thorn]

what tanks/playstyles do you like

[quiet heart]

if you liked the leo line, you might like the batchat or tvp lines? They're autoloaders but they have a similar playstyle since you also need to be really careful in those tanks.

[humble lotus]

Ok so I am making my way down the American medium tank line and I am at M4A3E8 and just about to get the T20, is it any good and are there any recommendations for playing it

[lyric copper]

STB-1 > M48 Patton

M48 Patton line > STB-1 line

[humble lotus]

And by the line being better do you mean they are easier to play or just better in general

[lyric copper]

less pain

tier 6-8 is pain, tier 9 is playable for better players

[humble lotus]

I see, your aid is greatly appreciated

[kindred thorn]

t20 has like 0 armor, but cause you have like a 20 power to weight ratio with upgraded engine you might want to adapt more of the light tank playstyle

or act as support since you are just paper

[humble lotus]

Ok. So in terms of tier 8 American mediums, is the T69 better than the Pershing, I am assuming so since it's a 90mm autoloader

[past crane]

Uhh, yes and no. I really enjoyed the Pershing, but the T69 has some troll armor and a nice autoloader with great HEAT rounds. Still, pretty much all the tier 8 tech tree mediums minus some of the newer tanks are just powercrept to hell.

[wise moth]

T69 is better than M26, but M26 is still kinda fun

[winter oar]

Isn't there already a 'Super Hellcat' in U.S. Tech Tree?

[crystal anchor]

Hellcat is already good imao

[winter oar]

Ik, but why add another one that is going to be implemented in Blitz even though the Super Hellcat originated from WoT PC

[crystal anchor]

Idk they already did that for BP tanks along with the French Panther and Pudel i wouldn't be suprised if we get a Panther bundle soon or something next update

[winter oar]

somethin is comin up. But there are going to be atleast 6 panthers in the game pretty soon. Since there is Panther I, Panther II, Panther 88mm, the french panther coming soon, Polish Panther (poodle?), and the Somua SM (Basically either a Panther I Defender or Panther II Defender)

[crystal anchor]

Somua SM isn't a Panther its a Amx 50 100 armored up and the Polish one is the Pudel, the VK 30.02 M can be considered a stock Panther like the Pudel and French thats why I wouldn't be suprised if they do a bundle of them

[kindred thorn]

How is the Japanese med line played?

[winter oar]

Somua SM is like a panther and the hull almost looks like a panther. But I forgot about the VK 30.02 exists. Lets see if they do that, but it is going to be in the future. Probably couple of updates till French And polish Panther will be out.

[solemn sun]

Quick question, is this chat only for in game vehicles, or any military vehicle, even the ones that aren't in wotb?

[winter oar]

any

[solemn sun]

Alr, thanks for letting me know

[winter oar]

np

[crystal anchor]

Hide and snipe tbh, Chi Ri play like a paper autoloader tier 8 is bad in every aspect but the gun, tier 9 is better but overall slightly better than the 8, the STB is the only tank in the line thats good other than the Chi Ri, don't expect the line to be a cake walk its not, if you want the opposite of this line the M48 line is a good example good lineup of tanks bad tier 10, STB bad lineup good tier X lmao sorry if this is pretty long

[crystal anchor]

Pudel has been leaked for a while, in contrast to the new images of the French one just released so idk and yeah big sad for the VK 30

[winter oar]

overall on Japanese med line, It is a fun challenge. You can make trial and error in that line. You can learn from your mistakes and have to improvise where to go and stuff.

[covert dagger]

(I'm bored, don't ask.)

[winter oar]

F or C Pz II?

[covert dagger]

Pz l F

[kindred thorn]

so basically just support and dont be on the wrong end of the gun any time

[crystal anchor]

WG with the tier 7 251 and tier X german med are literally doing the same thing they did with the Badger and SuperConq adding tanks that could be alternate tanks in the line like how the T62A and 140 split but WG can't go back on their policy of adding stuff like that due to that being one of the reasons the tank purge of 5.5 happened. Due to them claiming new players couldn't get a feel on the lines they were grinding newsflash: Tank lines don't stay the same through the whole line aspects and play styles change even in the same line. And yes defence

[ashen crest]

it does

[crystal anchor]

And its not like WG is going to make tanks like the AE Phase 1, 50 Med, obj 260 and 907 hard to get they aren't going to be tourney tanks, or ones where you have to put a whole lot of effort in like clan wars reward vehicles on PC. Idk thats just me

[ocean lantern]

Does anyone else agree that the Matilda 4 is better than the Matilda BP?

[lyric oriole]

No

[ocean lantern]

Oh it must just be me then

[lyric oriole]

You get a lot more DPM in Matilda Black Prince at the cost of Negligible DPM and accuracy

Though the dispersion on BP Lite isuch better

[ocean lantern]

I find that due to the stronger turret armour the Matilda 4 is better. It’s more survivable

[lyric oriole]

The armor on Matilda 4's turret is not better

[ocean lantern]

I mean on the mantlet

[subtle stratus]

is the VK-heavy line on the german tech tree worth a grind

[lyric oriole]

The mantlet has 0mm of armor behind it

And the sides are the same

So

[ocean lantern]

It’s quite large though and it’s cast so it bounces stuff by being a rounded cast shape

[lyric oriole]

Yes it is quite large

And not gonna bounce anything

[ocean lantern]

Maybe it’s just how i play them but I do much better in the 4 than the BP

[lyric oriole]

With the Matilda BP you get more effective armor on the turret and spaced armor protecting the turret ring

[wise moth]

@subtle stratus VK 72 line is horrific if that's what you mean. Don't touch it.

[subtle stratus]

thank you for saving me hours of time with this answer

[solid gate]

when will they add AC3 Thunderbolt

[plucky summit]

Never.

[solid gate]

;-;

[plucky summit]

They already have the AC I Sentinel and the AC IV Sentinel, why make a third?

Nudges aside three Tiger I duplicates in tier 6

Make that four soon

[solid gate]

but the ac3 can have a duel 25 pounder

[plucky summit]

Blitz doesn’t do dual guns, unless they’re a one-click autoloader like Helsing

[solid gate]

there are 4 ac tanks us aussie made 4 types

there are different types of AC-3

[solid gate]

yeah but how many german tanks + australia does not have many of are own tanks in the game eh it was a long shot

[plucky summit]

German tanks? They have lots of those in the game...

Your best bet would be them needing to recycle AC IV in a battle pass

But otherwise don’t anticipate that ever coming out

[solid gate]

they should add more of other country tanks than the normal ones

even if there shit

@plucky summit do you agree

[golden shoal]

The WZ-113G FT line is meh so far, I am at the WZ-111G FT and it seems like an underpowered 268 branch

[plucky summit]

@solid gate If they're entertaining to play and present a new view to the game, then yes, otherwise, there's no point

Also take out profanity, the rules don't see it fit

[golden shoal]

I know it has the worst Dpm among tier 10 heavies but is it really that bad? I was planning on grinding down both the Maus and the VK line at the same time. Once I finished the WZ-113 and WZ113G FT lines

[solid gate]

Was just a suggestion

[plucky summit]

@golden shoal 2nd worst DPM in heavies and overall, I will see #1 worst in a few

Oh of course it's Kranvagn

[golden shoal]

I love the Kranvagn but I wish they wouldn’t have given it such terrible dpm

[plucky summit]

The bad DPM balances it out, the ability to store damage should come at a cost

[golden shoal]

The progetto can clip people for almost the same total and yet its magazine reload is nothing like the Kranvagn. They should have just stuck with the auto loader Kranvagn from pc

[plucky summit]

They game Kranvagn an autoreloader as a new feature for a heavy, with not only a phenomenal turret armor profile, but to also have an autoreloader

Progetto 65 needs the DPM so it doesn't fall too far behind mediums at its tier, if it has too long of a reload, storing damage would be useless because you'd fail trades through your interclip

[golden shoal]

The point of an auto reloader is to blend the best of both single shot and clip potential, but the Kranvagn just struggles with getting anything out. Once you empty a clip you’re almost out of the game for a long as some tier 10 artillery from PC that do triple the damage you do

[plucky summit]

But still, the turret armor would sit pretty with no real drawback if the DPM was good

Progetto has to compete with high-DPM enemies, requiring a reasonable DPM for them, Kranvagn doesn't have to fight such a DPM war, and plays passive really well

[golden shoal]

But I digress, the Kranvagn is probably my favorite heavy tank

Hopefully the Chinese heavy tank and TD don’t disappoint me

[plucky summit]

The TD most definitely will, the WZ-113 has slow traverse, but overall good stats, as well as the highest DPM for a heavy

TD, I call the amazon box, lacks special DPM, a normie 152mm gun, and an armor profile that simply doesn't work, and the speed won't account enough for it

[golden shoal]

sigh I havent been disappointed by the TD branch yet, but the tier 9 is just really really average

I was probably going to go for the E4 after the Chinese lines

[plucky summit]

E4 isn't all that special either, E3 outshines it by a lot

[golden shoal]

Illl be able to get both by going down the E4 line iirc

I should probably look at more british vehicles... but I have the FV4202 and its... meh

[plucky summit]

Sure the 183 is hard to use sometimes, but I love it

FV215b is #2 for DPM heavies, if you can bear the rear-mounted turret without to safe ability to sidescrape

FV4005 has a low skill floor and a high skill ceiling

Vickers Light is basically a tanky small Leo 1 without as much DPM but with HESH

[golden shoal]

I have all the soviet vehicles along with all the europen nation vehicles, Maybe ill go the japanese td line since I already have the STb-1

I dont have any french T10 tho....

[plucky summit]

Ho-Ri is... kind of a meme
It features basically tier XIII prammo shells, without losing much alpha for them

Chi-To is a nice supporting medium
Chi-To SPG is not an SPG, but instead a very trollish TD in terms of armor with a nice gun
Ho-Ri I and II are meh, but at least II gets the OP gun

[golden shoal]

Ive been looking at the AMX and Foch for a while

I was hoping for a 30B line in blitx but since its a prem I can forget it

[plucky summit]

Foch is... eh? It present nothing very special, the two shot gun doesn't work too well

AMX 50 B is a nice DPM heavy if you can deal with plastic armor and ez HE sides/rear

[golden shoal]

Welp, then I guess its back to America or germany

[golden shoal]

I think I will grind down the M48 Patton line since it is the only medium I do not have

[plucky summit]

M48 is really nothing special

[golden shoal]

yeah I know but at this point I might as well collect it

[solid gate]

Excuse me, but which country should I start in for the most efficient tanks? I just started, and I’m looking for tips.

[lyric oriole]

German tanks are generally the easiest to learn on and grind

American tanks give good examples of how to play hull down

The European tanks (the actual EU flag nation) have some complex mechanics that aren't easy to wield so stay away from them for a little bit

The Japanese tanks are the some of the best in class at tier 10 but are not easy grinds

The British tanks are oddities

I wouldn't recommend trying any of them except Vicker Light 105 first if you want a light tank

The rest are very hard to use

Chinese tanks mix Powerful armament and mobility, the TDs here are not good though after tier 8

French tanks are mobility and clip based, not super hard to get into, definitely start with the heavies first if you choose to

Russian tanks are a grab bag, the 268 line is the easiest TD line in the game, IS-4 is one of the best heavies, IS-7 is one of the worst, so on and so forth

[brave night]

dont bully my is7

[lyric oriole]

I won't bully the IS-7

Just the ammo rack

[brave night]

fine

[past crane]

Basically the best starter nations are the US, Germany, and the USSR as they all have a wide variety of tanks and also are more forgiving. I say T110E5, IS-4, and IS-7 for easy heavy gameplay, T-62A, E50M, and M48 for mediums, and 268, Jagdpanzer E100 for TD's. Lights are hard to play in general and I'd stay away from them at first. I would also reccomend the Kranvagn (Swedish heavy branch) as a good starting line for autoloader playstyle. Stay away from Japan and Britain until you have more experience, and China is best if you've played some Russian tanks. French tanks are odd and require more skill than other autoloaders @solid gate

[solid gate]

I got an iTunes card as a get well soon thing, anything you’d recommend purchasing?

And I’d like to add a thank you.

[onyx sluice]

The kpfpz 70 and Panzer 58 seem like a good deal.

[hard cedar]

Aren't both of those tanks kinda meh tho