vehicles-discussion

[stiff basin]

Just wait for some nice offers, don't buy tech tree premiums without any discounts. Probably there will be some offers worth buying for gold.

[acoustic ginkgo]

idk man i just need only action x left

just tell me which should tank i should buy

[stiff basin]

I don't own any of these, but definetly not t26e4, I would buy is6

[glass relic]

Personally I'd avoid SP and buy IS-6 instead, if of course someone is pointing a gun to my head at point blank range and telling me to choose wether the two of the tank.

[manic carbon]

Super Pershing is a pretty mediocre tank and not worth the gold

[acoustic ginkgo]

should i buy obj 252u or just buy is6 instead ?

[stiff basin]

252u

[onyx sluice]

HMS Tog II ofcourse.

[acoustic ginkgo]

joking :)))

[plucky rain]

Why not IS 5

[acoustic ginkgo]

i havent reach it yet

[glass relic]

I already have it and not gonna bother with it unless i want to meme.

[plucky summit]

Lowe > Them

[plucky rain]

^

[plucky summit]

Even if it isn’t the king of tier 8, it’s a good investment

[acoustic ginkgo]

So...

Is6 or obj 252u better ?

[plucky summit]

252

[acoustic ginkgo]

Aright

[plucky summit]

T-2020 doesn’t need a buff :p

It didn’t need a buff before one

[lethal kindle]

It need a buff

[acoustic ginkgo]

Nope,it still need buffs >:D

[lethal kindle]

it needed a mobility buff, make it like is 3 then everything will be balanced

[gilded wagon]

Is there any history about the KV-1 Warrior skin?

[acoustic ginkgo]

Do you know konovobalo ?
Wait did i type it right?

[gilded wagon]

Konovobalo?

[acoustic ginkgo]

Try google sreach him than ?

[acoustic ginkgo]

I think

I typed ot wrong

[glass relic]

Kolobanov, basically the one who fought more than 22 panzers iirc and survived for a long period of time before it got disabled.

[acoustic ginkgo]

Bruh,yes

[gilded wagon]

Oh

[acoustic ginkgo]

@gilded wagon so?

[blazing ember]

Depends on your playstyle, T26E4 is cool med to hold position because noobs bounce, is6 is pretty cool also but It ain't a tank to take enemy heavy shoots on his sheets.

[acoustic ginkgo]

Yes

[gilded wagon]

Ye, found it

[granite storm]

are the italian tanks as good as people say they are? im not having the same fun and outcome as other medium tanks, the t34 85 and t43 were better than the p43 bis and ter

[wooden crater]

the t6 and 7 are super boring, they play just like any other of the 85-90mm t6 meds. the italian meds start to get fun at the t8, after you unlock the autoreloader gun

also, i highly recommend that you free xp to the top gun on pantera, the stock gun is a nightmare

[lethal kindle]

T7 is kinda good, didn't fully grinded t6 so can't actually relate

[hollow notch]

The tier 6 and 7 are nothing special, but they work

[wooden crater]

don't get me wrong, they're both fine tanks. they're both just quite generic and boring to play

[past crane]

T6 is really good, just a bad grind

Decent mobility, a nice big gun, a few bits of armor. Just don't snipe with it, shell velocity sucks

[vernal drift]

why won't wargamming nerf or remove the annihilator from the game its clearly broken, but they have stated that there isn't enough of them to "break the match maker" so lets see Im getting some of this information from blitzstars if you are wondering first of all its the second most played tank in the game with over 3 million battles (with 13,000 players) this means that each player is playing 250 battles in the annihilator (and this is only the stats that are from players with 50 battles in the annihilator in a 90 day period also it has the highest win-rate of any tier 7 heavy tank sitting at 61% which is a lot considering that 13,000 people play the tank . Also its top 3 when it come to dpm only behind the black prince and the fv201 which are dpm gods it also has one of the lowest aimtimes of any tier 7 heavy tank only comming behind the fv201 and predator ultramarine It has one the best dispersion of any tier 7 heavy tank only behind the fv201 and black prince it has the highest top speed of any tier 7 heavy tank this is without the boost btw it has the highest win rate of any tier 7 heavy tank, it has the highest average damage of any tier 7 heavy tank it has the highest damage ratio of any tier 7 heavy tank it has the highest average kills of any tier 7 heavy tank it also has the highest kills per death ratio of any tank the survival rate is almost 50% thats comparing to just tier 7 heavys tnak what about all tier 7 tanks? well it has the highest winrate of any tier 7 the highest average damage literaly all of its performance stats are better than any tank at tier 7 it only gets beat when it comes to spotting the only tank in the game with a higher damage ratio is the helsing the only tank that did something better than spotting against the annihilator and I will do one better it has better stats then every tier 8 heavy tank only having less average damage then the e75ts the amx m4 45 the emill 1951 the shark and the is 6 fearless

[granite storm]

Is the emil 1 worth enriching?
I really like the tank and would like to get more money when playing with it

[flint eagle]

Can you permanently enrich it?
If so maybe worth it. If it’s just temporary - it’s usually too expensive to make sense.

[kindred wren]

Enriching is usually more expensive than buying a same-tier premium, but if the tank is your favourite you might as well do it - but if you do, do it permanently

[hollow notch]

And wait for a discount

[granite storm]

I really enjoy the tank and I perfort really good on it
I dont use any type of xp boost on it and cus I dont want to unlock the emil 2 so fast, I want to enjoy the tank but most of the time I don't see the point of playing a tank if I have it ace'ed and no playing it for fun most of the time dosent work for me If theres no gain from it

[solid gate]

since it's a tier 8 it should be permanently enrichable, so if you are planning to play like over 700 games in the tank and you have gold to spare it might be worth it. It's a very strong tank, best at tier 8 still, so you should be able to perform very well in it while making good credits.

[dreamy nymph]

Best idea...... AT defender. It's like a 183 but at t8, maybe a 660 gun idk but I need an AT defender in my life

[kindred wren]

I don't

[hollow moth]

All I need is AMX defender deleted and RU 251 defender becoming a real thing

[solid gate]

Do people find this funny

[dreamy nymph]

It could be a bp tank idk just an idea

[gentle wasp]

haha 183 defender with 2 second reload when WG

[kindred wren]

No. Not another BP tank like the Annihilator. I literally hate BPs, all they do is screw free to play people over. They are nothing but an annoyance

[dreamy nymph]

@gentle wasp yes every time you pay wg the reload gets quicker

[hollow moth]

Finally something that I agree 100% with you

[dreamy nymph]

Once you get to 0 it goes into an autoloader

[sinful epoch]

What's the play style of the tortoise? Armor is kinda useless and it's slow as heck.

[wooden crater]

suffering

[sinful epoch]

the whole line is just suffering, huh 😔

[gentle wasp]

indeed

[wooden crater]

you suffer in the AT tanks and the tortoise in order to have a tank where you can occasionally have a fun battle, maybe

[kindred wren]

The At tanks aren't suffering 😦

[solid gate]

the tortoise is the suffering, rest of them are pretty decent

[pliant lodge]

183 more pain in the end

[sacred trail]

Y E S

[pliant lodge]

bUfF sMaShEr ItS uNdErPErForMinGG mAkE smAshErDEfenDeR plz

[dreamy nymph]

What if instead of an RU it's a Ferdinand defender

[nocturne sage]

A ww2 German engineer’s wet dream

[dreamy nymph]

I'm just thinking of tanks used in the war.

[latent meteor]

I still think we should get a Toaster defender.
It would be OP.

[dreamy nymph]

Maybe the vk 100.01p defender?

[plucky summit]

@dreamy nymph 😳

[dreamy nymph]

...yes

[spring pivot]

Still no nerf on annilator or smasher I see. Why? They are ruining this game. I have played for six years. I can't play tier 6 or 7. I refuse to use such an overpowered tank. Please NERF them.

[stiff basin]

Because WG won't nerf tanks that people paid for.

[kindred wren]

"What if we combined the bad parts of the AT 2 with the bad parts of the Valentine AT" armour layout

[gentle wasp]

I can't do math but it doesn't seem like a 2 shell autoloader with 225 alpha and a 13s mag reload would get 2900 DPM

[kindred wren]

That's why it's a three shot autoloader

😛

[gentle wasp]

oh nvm I saw 2 shell icons and not the 2 interclip numbers. but still... do the math for me will you

[kindred wren]

Wow, stop forcing me lazy person to do the work for you

[spring pivot]

Okay then buff all other tanks and power creep them. I have a lot of premium tanks. None are as ridiculous as those. It's ruining those tiers.

[gentle wasp]

just do it

[spring pivot]

Nike ad placement lol

[gentle wasp]

insert swoosh symbol

[kindred wren]

It adds up. He did it right

[gentle wasp]

sad

[solid gate]

but thats the whole purpose of collector tanks, yet look what we have, literally the most over powered tanks in the game are collectors- need me to list them off?

[ruby lintel]

Yes

Jk

[neat nimbus]

i think wg should replace panzer 4 g for the panzer 4 h

[knotty ice]

grillie 15 camo is just bruh

0.25 for grillie
0.63 for wt pz iv

[delicate dock]

grille after it gets new consumables takes dead eye accurate to a whole new level

[static harness]

Because .258 with refined gun isn't enough

[elfin orbit]

Hitting 1 pixel of a weak spot from across the map

[plucky rain]

Hmm how to play this

[winter oar]

just play it like this " E "

[glass relic]

Armoured ambusher (Budget 120gft)

[neat nimbus]

So which one I should get hori tier 10 or Vickers light tier 10

[storm robin]

Depends; you prefer lights or TDs? Ho-Ri’s strength relies on the most ludicrous prammo known to man, while Vickers Light is a fast HESH delivery vehicle

[storm robin]

Super Pershing for cred grinding, yay or nay?

[neat nimbus]

i would suggest either get the T34 or the löwe

[plucky summit]

Aka Löwe

[neat nimbus]

if youre one who plays turretless tanks i could suggest the jagdtiger 8.8 cm pak 43

[plucky rain]

Nah WZ 120 1 FT better

[glass relic]

I wonder how the side armor buff gonna affect 113 performance, because it seems that buff wasn't even necessarily useful cause of how ineffective is Sidescraping on that tank, and it's not like people would occasionally shoot there that often when drivewheel exist.

[calm drum]

Ronan#6078 was muted

Ronan#6078 was softbanned

[onyx sluice]

How to deal with KV2, KV1S and KV3 in the VK 36H?

[gentle wasp]

Kv2 you shouldn’t have much trouble with. He will really struggle to pen you, and you have a much better tank overall, big advantages in mobility, armor, and armament.

1S is more tricky but you just can’t trade with it. Force engagements where you make him take bad shots, he will miss more then he hits.

Kv3 shouldn’t really be a threat to you. It’s big and slow and the gun isn’t scary. Leave him alone and rotate around him until he gets isolated or surrounded.

[onyx sluice]

What is the best way to angle against them? I really wanna avoid them penetrating since its always for atleast 1/3 HP.

Thanks for the answers.

[karmic nymph]

@onyx sluice all of those tanks have bad accuracy, so I would definitely recommend going hull down. They can hit your cupola but if you only peak when you are reloaded and move back and forth they will struggle hitting it. Other than that sidescrape but Im not a big fan of it in that tank or if you in the open or pushing them angle slightly to the side. They will still pen lower plate but you can make them bounce the upper

[onyx sluice]

Thanks.

[hard haven]

Is the e75 ts in store worth it for 6500 gold?

[dull escarp]

no

[acoustic ginkgo]

No

[acoustic ginkgo]

Have you know that e75 ts was for free bruhhh

[lapis sand]

Whats better? IS6 or T34?

[lament topaz]

I play with t34, good tank with best armor to shoot over rocks

[solid gate]

everyone know the best way to spend gold is on crates and containers smh

[keen garnet]

Nah bruh, the best way to spend gold is to keep changing nicknames and buying avatar crates

[solid gate]

jk xD

[granite storm]

whats this on the emil 1?

[solid gate]

Should i buy a defender mk. 1 or the fresh package e75 ts and lkpz m 41 90 mm?

[ruby lintel]

Defender mk1. Its superior imo

It has a clip (burst damage capabilities), better turret armor than the ts and the bulldog, and has heavy tank pen values. The tank is honestly insane. @solid gate

[elfin orbit]

If you mean the 2 things sticking out the mantlet those are probably coaxial machine guns

[keen garnet]

XDD

[limber crane]

coaxial MGs

[storm robin]

Should I buy the Lowe using the irl money offer (with full equipment and leggie camo), or the fully equipped E75 TS for 8.5k gold?

[solid gate]

buy the non-equipped one, the gold price different is equal to 30 days of watching ads. meanwhile if you buy equipment using credits, 30 day grinding will surely cover the cost, even u can have profit

[copper swan]

I need a hug

[solid gate]

Hello, I just got the lekpz m41 90 mm and I’m “terrible” on it. 20 matches with 16% WR. I didn’t suck at those matches, always made 2000+ damage but platoon didn’t help. Any suggestion on how to play it?

[keen garnet]

@solid gate Use the HE rounds effectively, they have 100mm of penetration and you can pen quite a few tanks with it since you're only at T8
Sides and rear of many tanks and even front plates of lightly armored tanks
You really boost up your DPM

[spring pivot]

everything else needs buffed. Or annialator and smasher needs nerfed

[quick thicket]

Try playing more passively, and flank to a tanks sides to use the HE more effectively @solid gate

[onyx sluice]

Which tank is better E75 TS or the Löwe?

[fresh vine]

eyes

[fresh vine]

id assume that youre either play too defensively or youre just getting bad teams. I wouldnt recommend you play too aggressively because it has bad armour, only play aggressively when you communicate with your teams

[fresh vine]

e75 ts

[acoustic ginkgo]

It depend on your playstyle

Both tanks are good

[jade hound]

Just saw the new upcomming tank...

[fallen parrot]

Yup same here

[granite storm]

Is it good?

Is it me or blitz dont have a russian bias as other games? Mainly wot pc and war thunder?

[fast compass]

Oh there is plenty of Russian bias around

[granite storm]

Well at least I dont see them

[solid gate]

its one of the Mods lol

[fallen parrot]

So? I was just saying I saw the tank also

[solid gate]

Yeah, and I ALSO just said that it was one of the mods, any problem mate?

[fallen parrot]

Agree to disagree

[solid gate]

disagree all you want but actually I was just surprised that I’ll see Mayo in a game

[vital lichen]

i just realized, isnt the amx m4 mle. 54s gun model the 120mm?

[wise moth]

It is, but it hits like the 130mm

[vital lichen]

the 130mm doesnt have a muzzle brake

wg clearly being focused

[past crane]

I have an idea. Even though the AMX M4 54 is a collector there is still room for a regular heavy line that plays like it. My idea is 3 vehicles from tiers VIII to X:the AMX M4 48, the AMX-50 Surbaissé, and the AMX M4 51. The AMX M4 48 has the same guns as the AMX 50 100 but regular loading system (think a Tech Tree version of the M4 49), the Tier IX is the AMX-50 Surbaissé which is a strengthened AMX 50 B hull down tiered to Tier IX, and with the TCB 120 turret on the AMX M4 54, mounting the guns of the AMX M4 51 in PC. The Tier X AMX M4 51 is the Tier IX tank in PC up-tiered with almost the same level of armor as the AMX M4 54 but with much thinner side armor. It has the 2 guns on the PC version of the M4 54. The Tier IX has a 120mm and a 127mm gun, and the Tier X has a 120 and a 130. The 130 on this new Tech Tree tank is NOT the same on on the M4 54, save for the alpha. That's my idea.

[gray harbor]

Okay. Who else here thinks it is dumb when an HE round bounces off the butt of a BDR G1 B? I just fought in a battle against one and my 75mm HE bounced off its rear end when it CLEARLY showed YELLOW. How the hell does an HE shell shatter when the color is Yellow? Wargaming I think you made the BDR a little too OP from the tail end.

[plucky summit]

Gimme replay

[gray harbor]

How do I do that?

[plucky summit]

You play on phone? If you do I'm not sure, I can only remember how to do it through PC

[gray harbor]

I will try on my iPad

[plucky summit]

Actually, you could stream yourself watching the replay

[gray harbor]

How?

[plucky summit]

1. Be in a VC
2. Lemme be there too
3. Stream your screen
4. Swap to WoTBlitz
5. Start replay

[gray harbor]

Hang on. DM me and I will send it to you

@plucky summit

[solid gate]

How do I play VK 100.01 P? I just got it

[plucky summit]

Sidescrape for days

[polar sun]

you drive through the enemy at a slight angle and shoot, bounce everything

[solid gate]

You don't even need to sidescrape for most cases

[plucky summit]

Before the nerf you could angle so graciously xD

[solid gate]

Ok thanks guys

[fickle nimbus]

FYI, the current giveaway tank is the Valentine IX tier 4 is not worth trying twice. Sold it for 199 Gold. The list is extensive, yet available. Why do they make a tank that is so totally unable to carry the battle.

[sacred trail]

It’s also super slow for its role in-game

About as slow as the Matilda BP or even the AT line leading to the 183

[plucky summit]

Yeah, it's just a watered down Matilda with a very reliable, but ineffective gun

[plucky rain]

How to play Valentine IX?

[wooden crater]

free 100 gold

[neat nimbus]

i decided give the Löwe something that makes it looks more german

[bright sentinel]

I cant decide so can someone help me decide between the two? Mauschan, or E 50?

[solid gate]

E 50

[hollow moth]

Mauschën is a slow heavy, but leads to one of the best tanks on the curret meta, it's grinding is nothing but suffer, better deal with it later

E50 is simpler and easier to play. It's stock version is pretty poor, but you'll enjoy the tank once it gets most of good modules. Go for it first.

[bright sentinel]

Ok

[mossy pulsar]

Suppose you were fighting on the eastern front in ww2 when everything is freezing.
Would the inside of your tank be warm? (Assuming you managed to start it in the cold)
Would the Heat from the engine warm up the crew compartment in the winter?

Ping me if you answer pls

[crystal thorn]

Renault R35 Jagdtiger (105mm) Hybrid Nation

[dusky stirrup]

Okay.

[crystal thorn]

New Light Tank?

[median tree]

no

[twin mural]

Overpowered with composite and ERA

[crystal thorn]

And he fast as fook

[twin mural]

If this was a tier I the mm protesters has more evidence

[dusky stirrup]

Definitely they won't put tanks like these in matches. It's cursed tanks. Not real ones.

[solid gate]

That’s literally just an Bradley hull it’s paper

[twin mural]

With ERA it isn't, Explosive Reactive Armor could stop APFSDS, HEAT, HESH

[solid gate]

No ERA can one hundred percent defeat a dart especially on a paper hull like Bradley it’s only effective like that with an actual hull like the T tanks

[twin mural]

Yeah it is possible to pen the driver's hatch since it has no ERA

[solid gate]

Did you just not read that or something

[twin mural]

Wdym

[solid gate]

Again era can’t defeat darts 100% it’s too fast for it to affect only on tanks such as T-14 to various T72 upgrades with Kontakt its designed to weaken rounds and Fail to penetrate the hull

[twin mural]

So US ERA design is inferior to Kontakt ERA?

[solid gate]

It’s not intended to be dart proof because again Bradley isn’t meant to take a hit from a dedicated AT gun only from AT crews and auto cannon fire

[twin mural]

Bradley could stop HEAT (RPG rounds) and hollow rounds. Also HESH because it wouldn't ripple the tank's hull

[solid gate]

I’m aware how it’s armor works

[twin mural]

Ok, thanks for the info

[sharp oak]

Maus

[hasty wasp]

anyone know when 7.8 update coming, i cant wait for grille buff

[urban radish]

update 7.8 is out around Mid March - End of March or Beginning of April

[granite storm]

just got the emil 2... kinda waste of silver tbh

[glass relic]

It is a waste, your silver straight up went to the garbage bin

[granite storm]

sad the emil 1 was so much fun

probably worst t9 tank so far

[solid gate]

buff object 704

[lethal kindle]

Emil 2 is op wdym

[hollow moth]

Uhhhg no, play it better

[solid gate]

Which is the best heavy tank with good armor, gun etc?

[hollow moth]

Nowadays, E100, IS-4, E5 and WZ-113 are the best ones when are talking about gun + armor

[lethal kindle]

Unless you have another play style, other wise krav is a good choice as well

[hollow moth]

Kran gun isn't exactly good, the shots per minute is quite too poor

[solid gate]

Ok thanks for the help

Kran is a poor choice for another play style it’s the only one of its kind

[hollow moth]

Kran in hulldown 24/7

[plucky summit]

It’s funny though, managed to club people in tourneys spamming 7 of them

[hollow moth]

Fair enough

[sudden plover]

My problem in heavies is I always yolo expecting to bounce everything. I need to learn angles and wiggling and basically everything to be an effective heavy

[plucky summit]

There are two great videos on youtube that teaches you the mechanics and strategies of it

They should be called Shell Penetration and Blocking Damage

[sudden plover]

Thanks. I'll check them out. I conceptually know what I should do but once the timer goes down I forget and plow straight into front lines. Trying to remember more while playing and die less

[hollow notch]

I'm gonna have to disagree with that one. It has shells for when they are actually needed. Much more useful single shot guns.

[stiff basin]

Kranvagn is an autoreloader, so if you shoot all the clip and then use it as a single shot tank, the DPM will be quite high, and it will slowly drop down to the normal value. So don't think that Kranvagn and Proggeto are bad DPM Tanks

[heavy nest]

E-100 AUSF C??? Is it possible to add this tank to the game?

[solid gate]

Looking to grind a new line, fv215b or t110e5?

[spark basin]

e5

[wise moth]

@sudden plover Sounds like the Maus is the tank for you.

Jokes aside (although I was semi-serious with that), basically the key to heavy tanks is just to always play hulldown whenever possible, and just sacrifice HP to move to a new hulldown to pressure the enemy

[fresh vine]

you know, i dont like it

[fresh vine]

e5

[crystal thorn]

Me either, but it's for WG MM remover @fresh vine

[fresh vine]

Its not the tank we want, but the tank we need

[solid gate]

T110E5 or Wz-113(the heavy tank I mean, I'm not sure if this is the correct name)?

[wise moth]

113

[neat nimbus]

I wish you could get again the real fighter camouflage from realistic mode

Was awesome

[solid gate]

Ok thanks

[unborn urchin]

i Like my M41D Jade.. Perfect Light / T7

cute ^.^

[winter oar]

I always loved the M41D Taiwanese Bulldog

[solid gate]

I have a question. They have thought to put these 2 German tanks

[solid gate]

Their fake

They're*

Blame autocorrect

[plucky summit]

Autocorrect doesn't correct 'they're'

[lyric oriole]

It does for me actually

It also corrects "were" to "we're" randomly

And the other way around too

[plucky summit]

Wack, I mean I have mine off nowadays so

[unborn urchin]

Rlly big this Thank xD... dfq

What is you're biggest and smallest Tank. Tell me 😄

[raw panther]

smallest is elc bis

[polar sun]

no ms1

[unborn urchin]

xD

SHow ur Tank

[spark basin]

largest: maus

[unborn urchin]

i like youre Design .. Uff

[spark basin]

smallest: y5 t-34

[unborn urchin]

Nice nice

[glass relic]

Im sorry but, sacraficing HP for another position is basically the same as trading HP for distance right?

[wise moth]

More or less

[lyric oriole]

I always get super frustrated when people don't realize that pressure is a key aspect to winning the game

[glass relic]

Well sadly how often average teammates know how to do their own job well enough to know what they're doing makes them unable to understand what the word pressure means since they're the one who kept getting pressured by the enemy.

[plucky summit]

They fail to see how when they get pushed and 3v1'd they are being taken advantage of by pressure

I hate it when enemies just roll over me boldly

[lyric oriole]

I fail to see how my teammates tend to lose against fewer enemies then allies on one side meanwhile I'm stuck with one half useful person against 5 tanks

[solid gate]

I mean there are people who have failed their way to tier 10 and learned nothing and then there’s Ttman who has 3 years worth of battles on a t62 and only like 5 aces..

[plucky summit]

That half useful person being a WT

[lyric oriole]

^^^ it's generally mostly useful due to the tank they are driving not the actual player

[plucky summit]

It's always a WT for me, it's kinda spooky

[solid gate]

For me it’s either a T62 or an IS7

It’s either they don’t know how to use their turret or somehow fail miserably at finishing off someone and then get swarmed

[plucky summit]

When an ISU-152 ammoracks your ISU-152 after you get a juicy HE shot on a Standard B's turret 😭

RNG is so nice to me today

[unborn urchin]

3,54 Seconds to Reload.. better then Type 62

[lyric oriole]

It's got the highest DPM of tier 7 lights

[unborn urchin]

Correct

[plucky summit]

Lights

[solid gate]

That 275 heat though fun to butter

[unborn urchin]

Or here.. T7 Heavy.. 3,2 Seconds Reload

[lyric oriole]

ISU-122s says hi

[plucky summit]

Black prince says 3.1s

Heck, Churchill I says 2.2s

[unborn urchin]

Hello 😄

[lyric oriole]

7.2 seconds for 400 alpha

[unborn urchin]

at my tank 7,16 seconds

ISU-130 needs 8,84 seconds for 460dmg

[plucky summit]

=o-o=

For a tier up, you can get 6.41s for that 4 hundy

[unborn urchin]

Tank?

[plucky summit]

ISU-152

[unborn urchin]

Need new tanks in the Shoo .. Fuuu

[plucky summit]

ISU-152 is a direct upgrade to ISU-122S, woo

Except you use the BL-10

[full sail]

Is the LT-432 coming in crates? It would be amazing if it wasn’t

[plucky summit]

Keep dreamin

[nocturne sage]

If I’m being honest, I kind of rather cut being in crates than our right for gold. Makes sure that there isn’t gonna be a whole of them in mm. Not saying that there isn’t going be a lot of them in mm when it comes, just not as many

[full sail]

Yeah but I can’t drop $150 on one tank and not even be guaranteed to get it

[solid gate]

Gambling for you

[nocturne sage]

It’s the risk ur taking for the crates

[full sail]

Yes but I could easily drop 12.5k gold but you know the whole greedy Russian thing

[storm robin]

squints in having 250mm HEAT pen in the Type 62

[hollow moth]

275mm for the CS chads

[solid gate]

You can run full heat on type 62 btw it’s prem ammo is cheap compared to others

[hollow notch]

That really hurts the alpha though

[copper swan]

What about E 25? How to play that little roach?

[keen garnet]

Go Mosquito mode and don't get slapped

[copper swan]

Mission failed died to SU 152

[storm robin]

Nah, you need the faster reload on the Type 62 cos your main strength is dpm

[storm robin]

Yes, but then you lose out on the alpha and trading capability

[keen garnet]

If you have played it before, you can send a VRT
If you haven't played it before, you wait till it comes in store

[hollow moth]

The AP and HE pen aren't that good, to fight softer targets I prefer using CS

[storm robin]

I mean, 145mm of AP pen is enough to get through the armour of most meds and lights, and the sides + rear of heavies

[hollow moth]

I'm not used to low pen, every MM for me matters

[brittle atlas]

how does one play the defender mk 1 when whole team go town/non hilly

[gentle wasp]

Farm isolated or distracted targets. You still dump out a good amount of damage in a short amount of time, so if you make somewhat intelligent trades you should at least hold your own until you get the opportunity to relocate

[brittle atlas]

ok

[storm robin]

My man, I use the Comet, I’m used to low pen by now

[hollow moth]

Suppression fire is also something interesting to do, I've tried some timesin fast shot tanks

Get a good area with open vision to your enemies, somewhere to hide your weakspots and from a safe distance

If your enemies don't spot you, they'll get confused. "Why so many shots? Where is is comming from? We need to deal with that sniper!" They'll think. Then someone will separate from the group and you'll know what to do

If they spot you, so what? You're protected after all, in the worst scenario, someone will try to deal with you; but we all know what happens with the ones that "challange" an Mk1 defender in mid ramge

[sick dagger]

Can anyone who has played TVP tell me which Tier is the most difficult to use?

[wooden crater]

hands-down, the t8 tvp vtu

[sacred trail]

I know low penetration at tier 7, and that’s called the AT 7 6-pounder autoloader

[neat nimbus]

since wg put back to store the e75 ts

seems i wont be using the e75 ts anymore if assemble event comes

so any tank that is the less played on all servers or less played by NA server

[wraith gulch]

yo, can anyone help me out with the "instant upgrade" thingy?

i saw it when i loaded in just now, but idk if i read something wrong but i have no idea where to find it, i thought it said in the research tab but i cant find anything

nvm found it lol

[spark basin]

they're just reminding you how to spend absurd amounts of gold

[wraith gulch]

yeah lol

tbh, that would be a cool feature using xp

make it like a 20% discount or something, but u need 100% crew

[solid gate]

keni otsu replace annihilator/smasher today !! how solve WG this problem ?? many stop play 6/7/8 and go play when is no so hard fight !! as always WG never solve problem in time -2-3 updates later or 1 year later (dracula)!! why WG listen only idiots who no idea of balance this game !! in old days was kv-1 op but was slow /now t1 heavy hunt all tanks as med !! WG no look how all actions fall on others !! as youtubers --this tank is no worth for buying ! youtubers are no worthy to be my voice -- i never buy pixel for real money ! is no economic !

[chrome fog]

should i buy smasher containers

[wind burrow]

With 3% drop chance for 15k gold, mathmatically it's almost impossible to get till u buy 30 crates! @chrome fog

[chrome fog]

I got it from the 2500 bundle (3 containers),didn't have to spend a heck ton of money

[azure rivet]

Not impossible but you have to get lucky...
Very lucky!
Most people will lose and need to spend a lot...
Don’t waste your money!

[azure rivet]

Lucker! 🤪

[granite storm]

how bad is the american t32? from 0-10?

[chrome fog]

it's not bad imo,just play hulldown like every american ht

[manic carbon]

Its better than people think.
Great turret, special consumables, can have a ton of HP for a tier 8 HT.
But it gets hate for its lack of penetration, and also its meh dispersion

[granite storm]

cus from what i know its the only bad tank in the line

[acoustic ginkgo]

I got this for 5k gold

[granite storm]

nah ;d

[acoustic ginkgo]

I only have 3.5k gold left :((

But it worth it with 5k gold

[granite storm]

i dont think the smasher is worth it, just a buffed up kv2, and i dont really like that kind of tanks

[chrome fog]

still pretty fun to annoy people with your insane he pen and amazing accuracy for a 152mm

[granite storm]

i prefer my skorpion g

[storm robin]

Is grinding the Chinese heavy line worth it? Given that I’m doing the Chinese med line too?

[abstract crest]

Hi! Should I research the Challenger first, or the Comet? (You'll have to @ me since I'm gonna be playing other tanks in the mean time)

[abstract crest]

Tier 8 and further? Hmm, the shitbarn would be useful I guess, but I'm also grinding through the ATs to get the FV215 183b, so I guess I can hold off on it

Tho I'm fine with either branch @lethal kindle

K, thanks for the advice!

[plucky summit]

183 isn’t easy to HE as FV4005, but that disadvantage is mitigated by your good ol spall liner

[solid gate]

does anyone know how to play a jgpz e100 in an urban area

[fresh vine]

play it like a heavy tank

[solid gate]

i see

[fresh vine]

but keep angling of course

[onyx sluice]

Saw a smasher first time in my Tiger 1, it took out 3 heavies and a medium....

[dull bolt]

Can we talk about how stupid the italian line balancing is? Like the standard B is just better tank overall, remember when they nerfed the sta.b? yeah? its still better than the prog65

[hollow notch]

Armor and a far better gun. What's the problem?

[dull bolt]

and dpm isnt everything, both of them can do a 1050 clip in 6secs, oh but wait! the sta.b have HEP ROUNDS?! 1200 clip...

[solid gate]

Majority of targets have 110+mm frontal protection in tier 10 so

[fast compass]

Honestly i prefer progetto over standard b. Standard b is still fun tho

[dull bolt]

i just hate this balancing man, like what do i have to like about the prog than the sta.b?

[hollow notch]

...

Literally the only advantage the standard has is HE pen. The prog gets everything else

[dull bolt]

prog losses against gun handling, shell velocity, gun dep

[solid gate]

prog has that stupid armor profile along with actual dpm
also 9 degs of GD is enough

[fast compass]

9 is still plenty good

[hollow notch]

And no tier 10 (medium) has bad accuracy

[dull bolt]

i just hope this gets a rebalancing, a lil buff wouldnt be so bad

[hollow notch]

It doesn't need one though.

[solid gate]

i honestly dont think prog needs a buff.

[fast compass]

You have better mobility because more traverse, more hp pool, slightly better pen to trade that worse gun handling

[dull bolt]

welp back to playing sta.b coz lov the dam thing

[solid gate]

Prog got nerfed for a reason lol

[dull bolt]

i mean... hep rounds are nice n all. This tank...

[hollow flower]

On the Pantera now, and its awesome, IG standard b is an extension of that

[fresh vine]

i personally just cant stand playing the standard b, its so slow

[dull bolt]

double fuel provisions, engine boostconsumable?

[solid gate]

Why tho you give up a repair or med kit and dpm

[stiff basin]

Foch 155 or obj 263?

[manic carbon]

Foch

[keen garnet]

Foch 263

[lyric copper]

@keen garnet what have you bought upon this cursed land?

[keen garnet]

How about this then

Jagdpanzer E268 183 Defender version 4

[lyric copper]

Everyday. We stray further from god

[fast compass]

Foch with a 263mm gun. 1500 ap alpha. 2.1k HE alpha

[keen garnet]

https://c.tenor.com/sFDuUUH1E9sAAAAM/memes-risitas.gif

[rigid condor]

NO. just HE with 1 mm of pen. so it only splashes.

[wooden crater]

it can still pen the stupid 0mm 'armor' on open roofed turrets and gun shields

[rigid condor]

so if at tier 10 just the grille and WT, which already get nuked by any HE shell?

[lyric flume]

What to use long fingers for

[lyric copper]

reaching the bottom of the Pringles tube

[plucky summit]

Determine balance.

[solid gate]

Is7 with amx 54 turret?

[plucky summit]

Not too much xD

[kindred wren]

That tank is a bit toxic

[plucky summit]

Indeed

Maybe if the HP was normal for a tier 10 the tank could qualify as one

[solid gate]

Ok, so it's slow, has good armor, bad gun depression, and not very good pen.

[kindred wren]

252U of tier nine, just with less lower plate and actually prammoable upper plate

[plucky summit]

Tier 10 TDs could probably make work with their standard shell normalization

Calculations say they absolutely can

Big note though it has relatively weak sides

[kindred wren]

120 is good enough to sidescrape

I think the E 75 has 120mm as well

The only thing that might be concerning (and that’s actually probably going to be an issue with the Object 260) is the pike nose being a weakspot when sidescraping

[plucky summit]

Lel, the pike nose is a weakspot without sidescraping

[kindred wren]

On the 260? Or on yours?

[plucky summit]

260, especially with the nerf they're gonna boof on

[kindred wren]

Yeah, but the pike nose also ruins your life when trying to sidescrape

[plucky summit]

I'm kinda proud of how I did the hull, and I made the turret look stupid xD

But then again my second idea was a pretty big turret to go along with the hull

[kindred wren]

It’s probably my least favourite armour design in the game

[plucky summit]

Also there's no chance of fire when hit xD

[solid gate]

You could always reverse side scrape

[kindred wren]

Not with the turning speed of those tanks and the pace of the game

Reverse sidescrape is like “missile spam” theoretically possible but practically non-sense

[plucky summit]

The M6A20 54 couldn't reverse sidescrape

The fire chance will be 15%

[kindred wren]

Are those two linked?

[plucky summit]

Two what?

[solid gate]

Speaking about the tank itself it would probably be a collector/ premium. I’m not sure what tank would lead to that in the tech tree

[kindred wren]

Reverse sidescrape and fire chance

[plucky summit]

Yes, I said it will be 15% because I forgot to write that in the pic

[kindred wren]

I never saw fire chance as a limiting factor for reverse sidescraping to be honest

[plucky summit]

OH that's what you meant, they were separate ideas, just mentioning the practicality of my tank to reverse sidescrape

[leaden remnant]

When was the last time the AMX 13-57, WZ120FT or Vulcan were sold? They're the only tanks i dont have and I have nothing to grind or buy smh.

[gentle wasp]

http://forum.wotblitz.eu/index.php?/topic/54156-blitz-economics-premiumcollector-tank-tracker-2020-update/

[pastel imp]

Like WZ120 is never sold, youcn get it from xmas events, vulcan is just a pile of shit and it will never be sold again and the amx1357 is also kinda shit

[raw panther]

no its not amx 13 57

[pastel imp]

Well its like 90 dmg no armour clip thingy

[raw panther]

its pretty fun to play amx 13 57, vulcan, woah there don't get me started, it is the worst

[storm robin]

Should I do the Chinese heavy line if I’m already planning to do the Chinese med line? If so, are the Chinese heavies any good?

[hollow moth]

well, the WZ-113 is a very good tank, but I had only bad experiences WZ-110

I would want to continue this line one day, but I lost my enjoyment in wotb

[storm robin]

Hmmm... I’m looking at the WZ-110’s stats rn, and it seems like basically a better IS-3? Like, though the top gun is a 100mm that somehow has the same stats (except pen and dispersion) as the Löwe, the hull armour can actually bounce stuff

[hollow moth]

I'm not used to pike nose armor, but it works well

[storm robin]

Plus, the WZ-110 can actually go hull-down? Apparently? Like, I tested it out on Armour Inspector and a slight vertical incline is all it takes to turn the entire top half of the tank Red

[hollow moth]

yep, but the gun depression isn't that good

[storm robin]

It’s better than the IS-3 though; 6 degrees as compared to the IS-3’s 5

[hollow moth]

yeah

[glass relic]

It's just the worse IS-3, just by adding 1 more gun dep isn't enough when your armor profile straight up become a watered down 252u and big profile.

The gun is eh....feels like i want to vomit but it's workable to use but not so comfortable for a long period of engagements.

[glass relic]

It can go hulldown but gotta watch out your top parts where it'll be penned, your gun accuracy n bloom might let you do some ridge poking without exposing a lot of time.

[storm robin]

Yeah the cupolas, they need to be hidden... but why is it a worse IS-3? Sure, the 100mm gun is basically a worse Löwe gun, but the hull armour can actually bounce stuff on the WZ-110

[glass relic]

That's just on paper, i couldn't bounce stuff up unless they're stupid enough to shoot my center mass pike nose.

[storm robin]

Ah right, but considering that this is Asia server, they’re most likely stupid enough to do that... would wriggling work, in that case?

[glass relic]

Mobility is average, but the 310 alpha is 🙄

Kinda work but don't do it often enough since you're not a 252u or an IS-6 either.

The side hull cheeks on your pike nose is just stupid that thing negates you to do some Sidescraping and a place where slight angle means impending doom.

[storm robin]

I mean, alpha and dpm-wise, it’s basically the same gun you see on the Löwe - it’s certainly better than IS-3 dpm, that’s for sure XD

[glass relic]

Yeah but still sometimes the alpha doesn't make up when you need to trade but it's workable but not so comfortable.

Well i got meme'd by the tank itself, so i guess my source isn't that enough as far as I know cause it's just coming from my personal experience.

[storm robin]

Ah well, thanks anyways! 😄

[glass relic]

Ironically i like IS-2 more than WZ-110

[storm robin]

Ah, talking about the Chinese IS-2, how is it nowadays? I hear it’s basically a worse Soviet IS

[glass relic]

Worse IS-2 1945 in general but it's just an unique tank to play, i play it like medium with armor since the buff helps it a lot 122mm is just pure meme but 100mm is the gun you want to use.

[storm robin]

Ah, okay then - so there’s basically no stock grind then?

[glass relic]

Engine stock grind yes, but then again you gotta get the 122mm gun for the sake of researching but it's okay since the gun is used to 34-2

[storm robin]

Yes, but no gun/turret stock grind

[storm robin]

Eh, I need to get the 122mm anyways for the 34-2 (a tank I’m actually looking forward to), so yeah

[glass relic]

Stock turret is like asking to get into the pre buffed state.

I'm grinding the chinese heavy to make my life easier on chinese medium grinds i plan to stop at 111-4 with the top engine since it shares the ssme engine with WZ-120

[storm robin]

Ah, okay then - might actually do that too tbh

[glass relic]

I suggest stopping at least on WZ-110 and getting the 100mm gun, optionally skip 110 and get the 111-4 instead to grind for the top engine.

You can continue grinding the heavy to 113 for somewhat a unique heavy to play on nowadays meta.

[storm robin]

Yeah alrighty, I’ll do that - thanks for the advice! 😄

[glass relic]

Np 😁

[onyx sail]

Best tier 8 light tank to use in tourny?

[solid gate]

FV301 for your average player, but the Ru251 can perform better in the hands of a good player

they'll become irrelevant once the LT-432 comes into the game tho, unless WG absolutely craps on it with like 5 massive nerfs

[glass relic]

Hopefully 432 will just become T-54 ltwt premium counterparts or rival.

[ruby lintel]

Im worried about the lt432 being to strong armor wise since its already super smol. Giving it even half of the armor the ltwt has might make it too good imo.

[glass relic]

Well look at the ltwt itself the tank is strong and no one complains about it other than it's ammo capacity.

[ruby lintel]

Ik, but it is also not as smol as the lt432, and has less gun depression. Now, im not saying it will be op, im just saying balancing the armor seems like it will be hard because of the angling of the tanks armor.

[glass relic]

I bet both will have similar profile except the turret since 432 surely supposed to be smoller and i have a good feeling to balance it out is by putting average gun dep or meh one.

But who knows it's WG they maybe gonna make it stupidly good or just become like the AMX'D a mix stuff.

[wooden crater]

i still don't understand why it lt432 has 5gd

the gd (and armor) are supposed to be what balances it against t54 ltwt

but gd is the same, and the armor is worse, but has more spaced armor and wierd autobounce angles

and just look at all that red

[ruby lintel]

It is still in testing tbf, so it might change when it finally gets added to the game, but i do see your concern.

Wg has one heck of a portfolio when it comes to adding broken tanks into the game, so I seem wym. This does seem to be like a cool addition though since it looks like a obj 140 that got bonked.

[solid gate]

Is the 25 x5 xp offer good?

[cold badger]

Anyone got any tips on a stock-grind T-34-85?

[neat nimbus]

theres a giveaway for tier 7 tree tech premiuns which one is decent or good

[quiet raven]

Its just too good for a stock T6 tank

[neat nimbus]

which premiun tier 7 from tech tree is worth

[tulip sundial]

At15a is good

[solar estuary]

go t6 and get the 100y

[neat nimbus]

there a give away and prize is tier 7 premiun

[umbral hamlet]

no one, mby the su122-44, but wait for offers in the shop, don't throw your gold

[neat nimbus]

its for a give away

[jade hound]

New tank, seen from Chimera’s perspective

[spark basin]

the chad tortorise

[quiet raven]

Dang

[keen garnet]

Balans

[karmic nymph]

That’s a lot of side armor I must say

[fast compass]

Hmmm i am curious about the drivewheels

[karmic nymph]

The new tier 8 light really concerns me tho

[storm robin]

Easy solution? Invest in the T-34-2, slap them with 122mm rounds

[karmic nymph]

I have chimera and prog for that matter, but it’s not the same

[storm robin]

I mean, the solution here is to either intercept them or chase them down

[honest ice]

woa is that the new tank released?

PLEASE NO 😂

wait till they release the "Attacker" variants.

[frail dagger]

oh, new light? grabs the tasty, oh so tasty danger cheese slab, the WZ-120g FT

for research purpose, really high dpm, decent amour, and so fast when turning

[solid gate]

That things pretty powercreeped now which says a lot since it’s still stupidly strong on its own by 432 will be the second or ultimately fastest tank ingame as it stands

[karmic nymph]

It can’t have that mobility with that dpm and armor. Just insane

[umbral hamlet]

take the su122-44

good armor, good gun, decent mobility

[solid gate]

Sometimes hope that the tank gamo on/off effect could be changed for like fog dust around thank. Because no tank disappear in open street in one second staying same place.

[narrow reef]

T22 Medium, can anyone review it for me please?

[sturdy bane]

good armor good speed good gun OP tank 9/10 buy

[tardy arrow]

62A is better for an average player, even 140

[glass relic]

Gosh, what's the problem with my HoRi like it seems the tank doesn't want me to play it, i did this and that follow some Maoy tips and Positive advices throughout the battle but yet i just suck at it.

[raw panther]

Except, the t22 med is the best med in the game for side scraping and also does more alpha than any other med.

Maybe I am lol, I just woke up, also, does the vk 72.01 k have a legendary camo?

Does the jageroo have one?

oh I thought every tier X viechle has a legendary camo

Ok Imma drink water, and play, and follow your advice

[sturdy bane]

nah, that's why they set up #809711586839101440

[storm robin]

Hmmm... if I do peek-and-boo a lot, while Chinese meds be good for me?

[glass relic]

Well it's one of their specialty, you don't want to wait for 12s in the open or out of cover just to slap another 400 alpha.

[elfin marten]

Hmmm, would you say a nerf is needed?

[static harness]

Why?
This looks perfectly fine to me (considering it goes 75 kmh and has a pretty okay gun) /s

[hollow notch]

Looks perfectly fine, you can pen the side.

belns

[static harness]

Fair enough, 40mm side
So 122s will have some fun

[hollow notch]

Who thought this was anywhere near ok?
I mean come on. Even before "testing" almost anyone can tell it's broken af.

And @Zis (Marius)#4471, improved armor equipment noises

[static harness]

Oh right
I totally forgot that exists
Welp, that was the one weakness

[hollow notch]

Lol

[kindred wren]

To be fair that’s a low pen gun. Any gun with in excess of 200mm pen won’t have much or any trouble penetrating that tank, it’s more an issue of hitting it...

[keen garnet]

TBH, you're it's from a LTTB gun, not the greatest of pen

[static harness]

look at the size of that thing
Also why does it go 75/30
Especially 30 backwards?

[hollow notch]

Its armor is gonna be really troll though, making it insanely effective when people are only shooting general mass at it speeding through a field

[kindred wren]

This tank will most likely play like the LTTB used to play, just yoloing through the entire enemy team and getting away with it

[hollow notch]

But really though, testing
Hmm yes, this op tank is op.

[kindred wren]

No, it won’t be troll. The front will only bounce 200mm+ pen guns when at a ricochet angle and the side will most likely not bounce anything. Even the turret is not all that strong and to bounce something they either need to hit it at an awkward angle or the gun mantlet.

The actual issue here is not that the armour is great or particularly trollish, but that it is good enough to fight off tanks that can keep up or intercept it. Those tanks that can pen it most likely won’t be fast enough to react to it when it’s driving at full speed (let alone hit it)

That’s more or less what made the LTTB so strong and so annoying back when it still had good armour

[hollow notch]

I agree, to a point. Half of the turret is gonna be impenetrable. To heavies and the turret is tiny. The upper plate is steeply angled already, so it's not gonna be difficult to push that past the autobounce angles, and the lower pen heavies are gonna have to load prammo. For a speed demon with a decent gun.
Sure, its armor isn't solid against high pen guns, but its gonna be really effective for a tank that you won't be able to aim at properly

[kindred wren]

Like half the tanks at tier seven and eight have 200mm + pen guns (greetings to powercreep)

Also, it will be hard to push it to an autobounce because turning sideways won’t do much to increase the angle and driving up a hill will only cause you to not be able to shoot on the target. Also, most tanks are taller than you so they shoot down on you

I mean, it’s bad and I absolutely don’t want to see it in game because it will annoy the hell out of me but it’s not that bad

[hollow notch]

I dunno m8

I would easily classify it as a strong tier 9 if it has higher pen

[kindred wren]

I mean, I again point at the LTTB when it had armour (tier seven sealclubber’s pick). It wasn’t like undefeatable even for light tanks, but you had to be quick and predictive and all the yoloing through your team really wasn’t much fun

In tier nine that tank would be absolute food to every single medium

High accuracy, high shell velocity and high enough pen will ruin this tank all day, every day

[keen garnet]

Buff IS-7

[solid gate]

I aced it in 6 battles, idk if it needs one

[keen garnet]

Maybe a bit of pen buff, the prem pen sucks

[glass relic]

No, instead buff my IQ so i can actually play HoRi before i become biased with hatred towards the tank.

[rugged meadow]

Why are the most tanks suggested for T6 / T8 Tourneys mostly Premiums?

[hollow notch]

Because weegee can't seem to make good balancing decisions

[keen garnet]

Prems are mostly basically buffed tech tree tonks

[rugged meadow]

ok, so they are normally better?

[keen garnet]

Yes, look at tanks like Prog 46, just a better version of P44

[rugged meadow]

ok, thanks

[keen garnet]

NP, anytime

[glass relic]

Then there's this DMK1 and RAAC the p2w version of Cent 1

[keen garnet]

AX, better one of Caernarvon, etc.

[ancient iron]

is there any point in getting the other guns on the SU-152?

[spark basin]

no lol

[hollow notch]

Gotta buff that brom aimtime...

[hollow notch]

Yes, unlock them if you plan to continue to the ISU. It makes the ISU grind significantly easier.

[solid gate]

Which medium is the best for new medium players?

[keen garnet]

Arguable the T 62 A
If you're saying a line for new players that is

[static harness]

Fun fact
I have the t62A in my garage for about one year and have never driven it outside of fun modes

[plucky summit]

I mean, considering we're talkin an LTTB tryna pen LT-432, not much of an argument

😳

😂

LTTB vs Type 59 btw, sure it's a medium, but still, not like LTTB is a good use of an armor argument

[hollow notch]

59 pays dearly for armor though

432 pays literally nothing and has everything

[solid gate]

Yes for new players I mean and thanks

[gentle wasp]

The 59 is a terrible farmer, you can’t farm worth anything with one of the worst guns at the tier

[hollow notch]

@plucky summit I am going to be excessively against the 432 until it gets significant nerfs. It is not ok if they decide a tier 7 heavy can get a better gun, go 75, and be slapped into tier 8.

[plucky summit]

Can't say LT-432 can't outperform T-54 ltwt

I'm up for nerfs, but geez at least use a decent penning gun if you wanna show how OP 432's armor is xD

[hollow notch]

Better to let out my displeasure before they release it than when they decide it is impossible for them to nerf it

[plucky summit]

At least it'll spice up tier 8 light tanks some more

I wouldn't downplay 241mm of pen

[hollow notch]

I like the type 59. Bullys the heck out of tier 7s

[fresh vine]

exactly. the LT432 armour doesnt prove anything against the pen of the LTTB

[plucky summit]

The upper plate is up to the levels of Type 59, sure that can be frustrating for a light tank, but honestly, the turret isn't all that strong either

[fresh vine]

we dont know that, all we know is that the upper plate is more than 144mm of pen

[plucky summit]

Oh I do know that

@fresh vine ;)
https://blitzhangar.com/en/tank/lt-432

[fresh vine]

ahh, my apologies. thanks 🙂

[plucky summit]

👍

Blitzhangar OP

[hollow notch]

Turret isn't that strong, yet a good portion of it is impenetrable

We can't be lenient with weegee and let them slap us in the face with this tank. Or, after testing they decide that 5° of depression isn't enough

[plucky summit]

Or, they make their tendencies to nerf the tank according to its performance on testing ._.

[hollow notch]

I have little faith, considering what they put in to test.

Why are they even testing that tank in that state. Of course that thing is broken. Why does it require "testing" to figure that out?

[plucky summit]

Idk, prolly because ltwt struggles

[hollow notch]

Lotta other tanks struggle a lot more.

It's in the top half if you exclude the heavies

[plucky summit]

😂

[hollow notch]

I'm still wondering how all the heavies got buffed

[plucky summit]

As I see it, the heavies are the only ones that can rely on themselves to make the team's victory, like the brawn workers that can make pushes, trades, and spotting for TDs who want heavies destroyed.

They're the big boys, almost like what Blitz wanted for heavies to play in the game

TDs need eyes, lights and mediums need the extra power to fight, and heavies, can well, do all of that

[lyric oriole]

TDs need more camo

[hollow notch]

The heavies: damage dealing class

[kindred wren]

TDs don’t need more camo. I don’t want a campfest

[hollow notch]

Heavies need less survivability

[lyric oriole]

TDs lose about all their camo upon firing

[plucky summit]

15m bush rule can't be played on some parts of the map, often being Rockfield and whatnot

[hollow moth]

I don't understand Lux sometimes

He don't want a campfest, but also likes Castilla

[lyric oriole]

Heavies need less view range, TDs need more camo

[hollow notch]

Heavies also need less mobility

[plucky summit]

Vk 36.01 H going 51

[hollow notch]

Taking an IS-X tank and obliterating meds... what can the meds do? Run away?
And give me half of the map?

[plucky summit]

._.

Here we present: autoloaders

[lyric oriole]

Meds should get more health, (the lights in the game have a bit too much)

[hollow notch]

Lights are already struggling

[lyric oriole]

What

What

What

[plucky summit]

I know you have a soft spot for ltwt, but seriously, it doesn't fit very well in tier 8 =(

[hollow notch]

Maybe not in the hands of a 70er, but everyone else...

[lyric oriole]

That's because heavies can see forever

Lights are supposed to also be stealthy

[plucky summit]

Ye

[hollow notch]

Meds also have hella viewrange.

[lyric oriole]

You reduce the view range of heavies you see a major increase in light tank survivability

Meds are meh right now, the extra mobility light tanks have is worth more imo

[hollow notch]

Armored meds would just replace the heavies.

[lyric oriole]

Lights are pretty well armored right now

Unlike the other platforms

[plucky summit]

A 13 90 flanked my SU-152 but I turned expecting it, then I charged and splashed HE, I then got rammed by a T29 so I couldn't turn left into the T29 to shoot 13 90 again, but then they made the highest IQ play to drive in front of me, I HE kill him, and he asks "how".

I just don't know what he's confused about anymore

[lyric oriole]

The German lights are the only one with proper light tank armor so far

[plucky summit]

FV304 - VL should be classified as mediums, the only crutch WG would have is their view range to play the role of lights

Oh, and now that M3 Lee has since been apart from a tech tree in years, can it be made a TD now?

[hollow moth]

I agree in parts. Heavies really need less view range, in the current meta, IS-4, E5 and 113 are almost MBTs and they need to have a smaller effective range

But instead of giving more concealment to TDs, i'd rather more view range to lights. It'll make them more useful to it's original role; active/passive spotting
I believe that lights need to be a bit more important nowadays, because as you might know, a lot of meds simply steal (and do even better) a light tank role

[lyric oriole]

You need more view range for lights so that TDs can be spotted more?

[solid gate]

Less 183s on the field is good for me

[lyric oriole]

How about less E4s and less WZ-113-FTs?

183 won't decrease at all with that change

It has the one appeal that will draw players regardless of the meta

Highest damage

[hollow moth]

Yes

[lyric oriole]

That's one of the dumbest reasonings ever

[hollow moth]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[lyric oriole]

A class that is already having it's entire role taken from it by several classes gets screwed over further?

Not logical

You lose a turret in a TD you don't lose that much in a light from a medium

[plucky summit]

You lose HP doe :3

Well I did mean in a TD

[lyric oriole]

So does a TD

[hollow moth]

Well, I'm not so used to TDs that need to be sneaky all the time, so idk how bad it's the situation on them

[lyric oriole]

It's pretty bad

[plucky summit]

Most TDs are like 183, you shoot, you're screwed

[lyric oriole]

I play mostly TDs all kinds, not just the big gun ones, and it's nearly impossible to stealth unless you are E25 which at that point you become a light tank without a turret

[hollow moth]

My best experiences on this playstyle is on E25, Nashorn and the toaster, but all of those have a fairly good concealment. Idk much about others.

[lyric oriole]

AMX AC 48 for example: barely more DPM than a same tier heavy, about the same amount of camo as same tier meds, and abysmal gun handling

[plucky summit]

WZ-120-1 FT outclasses, sad vibes

[lyric oriole]

Or take T25/2

Its just a trashy medium

T110E4

Just play E 100

[plucky summit]

Hellcat > T25/2

Wait isn't the T25/2 just a T12.5

[lyric oriole]

Most tanks with maxed camo barely stay in the teens with their camo on firing, without it most tanks drop into single digits upon firing the gun

[hollow moth]

Haven't tried the AMX TD line neither north american turreted TDs

[plucky summit]

because they're so bad

[lyric oriole]

Or the 263 line of TDs

[hollow moth]

Haven't tried those too, lol

[lyric oriole]

Chinese TDs?

[hollow moth]

Nope

[lyric oriole]

Then you don't understand how awful it is

[plucky summit]

If you want chinese TD's, you might as well play 268's line, it's more or less the same, except you get prammo'd damage reduction in WZ's line

[lyric oriole]

Most TDs have muzzle brakes too which penalize camo while firing further

[plucky summit]

The ones literally meant to snipe long distances: =(

[hollow moth]

Yeah, I've only tried german TDs (whole Jageroo line unless Jagdpanther 2 and Grille line until St. Emil), british TDs until Challanger, North american turretless ones until T28 and Japanese ones

[lyric oriole]

For some reason Sturer Emil has really poor camo

[solid gate]

St emil best in line

[plucky summit]

Rhm overrated ;)

[hollow moth]

I did play St. Emil only a bit, but disliked it on the first battle

Somehow, it's slow, very low armored and bad camouflage, it's much worse than what I expected

[lyric oriole]

But it's ok you want Lights to have more view range right?

[hollow moth]

Yes

[ornate temple]

E4 op pls nerf

[languid needle]

This is Arl with AP, why does the IS-2SH even exist

[plucky summit]

St. Emil + Speed + DPM + pen - gun depression = ISU-130

@languid needle ARL has a tier 8 gun mate

[hollow moth]

IS-2H exist to be angled

[languid needle]

Try angling the turret of an is2

[hollow moth]

Well, moving and shaking the IS-2H turret will already do this job

[plucky summit]

If you armored up those corners and maybe patch the super weak gun overhang, it might be good to sidescrape with :p

[languid needle]

Someone decided to round off those sides, can side scrap because of those

[hollow moth]

I didn't understand

[plucky summit]

he meant can't

[ornate temple]

There's a reason no one plays is2h

[hollow moth]

Fair enough

[plucky summit]

Make the rounded corners 150mm and you got yourself a pretty solid sidescraper

[hollow moth]

Chrysler K > IS-2H

[plucky summit]

Yeah.

[ornate temple]

Even the is5 is better than the 2h like common

[plucky summit]

The 82mm track overhangs is the only thing preventing Chrysler K from becoming a god tier sidescraper

It's got a slightly better gun than WZ-111 but the DPm is the exact same xD

[ornate temple]

But it can't pen a hulldown Emil 1 like is5 can

[plucky summit]

.

[ornate temple]

You mentioned chrysler

[languid needle]

I wonder how many commie d25 tanks are in game

[plucky summit]

Right

[ornate temple]

Id honestly like if they give sandback armor and reactive to the jageroo it would make it relevant again

[plucky summit]

Jageroo is quite relevant, that 17cm gun still stands, and it didn't pay like 183 did

[ornate temple]

It doesn't have a good enough gun handling to allow it snap if you go heavy, the superstructure needs enhanced armor to bounce, and it makes you choose between armor or 120 more hp, with sand bag armor and reactive it would be around 2400 equipped properly and it would force you to stop using other provisions

[hollow moth]

Yep, Jageroo does still pretty relevant, but I do agree that it's getting quite harder to play it. The time isn't being good with the big boy.

[plucky summit]

The superstructure is like a prammo only thing...

[hollow moth]

Does it need a buff? Not now, but maybe later

[solid gate]

God forbid encouraging consumable buffs they have no place ingame jag is fine

[plucky summit]

The super pen guns like 183 and 268 are the ones that can standard drill it head on

[ornate temple]

Every td can pen the super structure if the jag is going with hp equipment

[copper swan]

Looks at Ho Ri

[keen garnet]

Jageroo is quite hard to play because it's slow and you have to angle that superstructure
But once you get the hang of it, is lovely

[nocturne tiger]

What's the top speed of a Drac?

[lyric oriole]

65

[winter oar]

Camo is lookin better now!

[sweet pulsar]

legendary camo 😋

[light blaze]

Will we ever get Italian tanks like M13/40 in game? I would assume so since it saw active use.

[winter oar]

we will never get Italian Heavies

[spark basin]

ah yes autoreloader heavy except with turret armor that can be penned by prammo

[light blaze]

@winter oar the M13/40 isn’t a heavy lol

[winter oar]

You pinged the wrong person?? what in the world is a M13/40? I didn't even speak about it. I just randomly said, "we will never get Italian Heavies".

[solid gate]

It’s an Italian tank

[winter oar]

aaaaaaah, okay

[light blaze]

That’s what I meantx

[onyx sluice]

Any tips on playing the Tiger 1? I just cannot do well in it though it is stock other than the upgraded turret.

[winter oar]

Tbh, The Chinese Tier X tank's Legendary Skins are unique in their own way but Sadly the only Chinese Tier X that doesn't have is the WZ-121.

[fast compass]

It should be getting one soon ish

[wooden crater]

dissapointed 121 didnt get a legendary camo for lunar new year

[solid gate]

wargaming needs to get rid of the 121s rust so that every camo doesn’t look bad on the tank

[solid gate]

Is the E 50M good?

[manic carbon]

it’s a solid tank, fun to drive

[solid gate]

The line is easy to learn and to grind?

[glass relic]

Panther is the only one that is easy to play and learn, then Panther II will test your knowledge and skills from Panther course of actions that you learned, before finally being teached on how to play E50M but handicapped so you'll be pressured to learn it's playstyle way better so when you finally get the 50M you won't have trouble adapting.

[rugged meadow]

how do you actually play the KV-1? I'm struggeling with the weak armor and the low speed and the lack of gun depression

[quiet raven]

Play like a kv-2?

[glass relic]

So basically you told him to camp far away on a bush with his KV-1? And not to mention using the stubby derp gun.

[quiet raven]

Thats not what i meant lol

[strange thicket]

KV2 doesn't even play close to KV1

[solid gate]

Ok thank you

[wind burrow]

Guys HO-Ri worth it ?

[quiet raven]

yes

[onyx orbit]

Track physics when?

[onyx sluice]

What is up with the gravedigger?
Met one the first time and my VK36 couldn't pen it anywhere. It didn't lose a single HP in the entire game.

[nocturne tiger]

Depends, what type of gun were you carrying in the vk 36

[onyx sluice]

The 75mm Waffe.

No gold rounds though.

[spark basin]

should have gotten some

[onyx sluice]

F2P

[sudden plover]

Kv-3 should be a front line tank right? I seem to be exploding a lot and quickly. I want to make sure I'm not trying to make tank do something it cant

[novel frigate]

KV-3 just sucks

[stiff basin]

You can use credits to buy them

[onyx sluice]

How?

[stiff basin]

Just change the currency in ammo tab by clicking the gold icon, using gold shells will change your life.

[solid gate]

Especially Hesh

[stiff basin]

And don't even try using HEAT against tracks.

[stiff basin]

No, wait, i meant the button at the right side with credits and gold on it @onyx sluice .

[frigid talon]

f

[sudden plover]

Is there hope further down the line then? Doesn't seem like the gun changes much. Long reloads with good alpha

[onyx sluice]

Fair enough.

Still sucks facing a tank you can't pen anywhere when he isn't even angling. All the while playing in a box that dosen't have decent armour even when angled.

[nocturne tiger]

Actually vk 36 has pretty good armour for its tier-

[solid gate]

ARL 44 pens it like butter tho, which is why Arl is superior to Vk

[nocturne tiger]

Well yeah, ARL 44 literally has a tier 8 gun

[onyx sluice]

It has a huge weak spot right in the front.
Forget upteirs.
Any heavy you face other than KV1 is bright red top to bottom, can't pen them.

[nocturne tiger]

Personally, I don't have a single problem with the VK 36.

I played it, loved it then I discovered the ARL 44

[onyx sluice]

I would say it is decent.
The Tiger 1 though, that is just pain.

[nocturne tiger]

What's painful about the Tiger 1???

[novel frigate]

Yeah IS-4 at the end is pretty good I hear

[hollow notch]

Tiger 1 is better than tier 8 mediums, and it's a tier down

[onyx sluice]

Tiger 1 is also a heavy.

[onyx sluice]

Ever played it stock?

[hollow notch]

It literally is better than tanks 1 tier higher

[manic carbon]

most tanks are painful stock

[hollow notch]

The lil nublets don't know the pain of the stock churchill gc grind

[ancient iron]

hey all.... how good is the tog now post-buff?

[green jetty]

Tournament winner good

[nocturne tiger]

Every stock tank is suppose to be either decent or bad, once you fully upgrade the Tiger 1, you will quickly change your opinion.

[ancient iron]

I have a fully upgraded Tiger 1.... I don't recommend using it as a heavy.... it's almost more of a heavium

[green jetty]

Ppl who judge tank performance based on stock modules are clowns

[hollow notch]

Emil 1 is also bad...

Stock, 50% crew, no equipment, no provisions

[wise oasis]

WG when are we even gonna see this? The T58 which is basically a T57 Heavy with a different turret and a 155mm autoloading gun XD

[nocturne tiger]

Probably never

[wise oasis]

To think WG would add this, will be very surprising to me, finally another Tier X American Heavy

[manic carbon]

Its doing significantly better

[onyx sluice]

This is my major problem, it feels like you're in a glorified medium not a heavy.

[hollow notch]

Then get a different tank

[manic carbon]

Some heavy tanks act more like ‘heaviums’
Just means adapting to a different kind of playstyle

[onyx sluice]

Maus, E100 and jpz E100 are my goals.

[ancient iron]

my first battle in the Ox..... I ended up top of the team in damage, I don't think I even took a hit (I was kinda playing a peek-a-boom type game on black goldville moving up as needed, and ended the match charging down the last 2 tanks from concealment) and earned 68k credits.... .-. I think I like this tank

[hollow moth]

Ox is nothing but a T-34-85

[sudden plover]

With horns

[ancient iron]

and 101 more dpm

[lyric oriole]

Compare it to type 58

It's more accurate

[sudden plover]

Yeah, some minor differences, but very similar.

[ancient iron]

and it has around 200 more dpm than the type 58 I think.... but my type 58 is only at 75% crew training

[lyric oriole]

Yeah...

[ancient iron]

I guess when my type 58 crew is trained up I'll prob like it too .-.

[hollow moth]

Bruh, I did forget the chinese bersion of T-34-85

[novel frigate]

Grind it to full researched and crew and it's amazing

[hollow notch]

Yes

[calm drum]

Lilpok#2921 was muted

[tulip sundial]

They should do this but with a foch like gun, but with 9-10 seconds inter-clip

2 shots in mag and like 25 second clip reload

[raw panther]

I can easily pen a t29 frontally using arl

[solid gate]

Arl has tier 8 pen.

[plucky summit]

AMX CDC basically has ARL’s gun

[solid gate]

And fcm 50t.

[plucky summit]

FCM is just a longer ARL, change my mind

[neat nimbus]

which tier 7 premiun is worth for gold

[hollow moth]

Nowadays, there stills only 6 tier VII premium tanks that stills solidly in meta

• Annihilator (current the king of tier 7, but you can't buy it for gold)
• Smasher (The prince of tier 7, usually can be found only in crates) Observation: this one is collector, not premium
• Helsing HO (almost an MBT of tier 7, usually can be found in crates
• T6 Dracula (AMX CDC, but on tier 7, usually can be found in crates)
• Type 62 (very good prammo pen and HE damage, was found for about 7k gold in 2018)
• E-25 (Smasher counter when doing face hug, but also does very well when not facing heavies directly, can be found for about 7300 gold or for real money)

[karmic nymph]

Type 62 sold for 3k last time

[hollow moth]

That's why I did mention 7k gold in 2018

[neat nimbus]

im waiting for the pudel

[neat nimbus]

unless the AMX CDC comes out again so i can buy it

[wise oasis]

I agree with ya, it will be interesting if WG would add this tank

[quiet raven]

Crazy

[mellow marten]

I love the AMX Center for Disease Control can't wait for it to come back too

[neat nimbus]

The only attachment is a soccer net and a basket grill with soccer balls

[mellow marten]

Yeah I know that but I thought it was funny to say that becuase of the CDC part

Did you not get the joke on the name of the tank?

[neat nimbus]

Yeah

I thought was CDC Compact Disc Computer

[spark basin]

nah dude lets go further beyond and give jageroo reticle calibration

[visual hatch]

give maus reactive armor and t57 shell reload boost

give batchat high octane fuel

[stiff basin]

give it to LTTB or M41D

[fast compass]

Give maus sandbag armour

[tight bloom]

type 64 feels the opposite of compact

[tight bloom]

italian tanks have type 64 issue

[fresh vine]

give drac improved engine boost

[static harness]

How about no?

[delicate dock]

Give it to the budget drac the lttb then

[brittle atlas]

does the sheridan really have more module damage using heat or is blitz hangar screwing up? 160 for aprc he 200 for heat

[stiff basin]

Give reticle calibration to KV-2 and T49.

[brittle atlas]

ah

so is it a good idea to use heat instead of apcr for the extra module damage to get more fire/ammo hits

[strange thicket]

No

Not really.
Why would you shoot for 490 instead of 560 for a potential module damage

[brittle atlas]

idk for trolls

[strange thicket]

yeah, trolling yourself and benefiting the enemy

[tiny fern]

there is nothing wrong with the MM

Amx 13 toon vs Anihilator toon ))))))

Pls dont nerf it, its too weak rn. I think it need a buff btw. 2000 clip dmg is reasonable.

[fresh vine]

very reasonable

[tiny fern]

Battles are not decided from the start

[fresh vine]

definitely

[drifting gazelle]

World of tanks blitz is very balanced game.

[raw panther]

The Amx defender is a decent tank, more effective and fun on the battlefield. lol look at this. 😆 An Is3 could not pen it. That's why.

[clear bobcat]

how to play emil2 stock

[delicate dock]

You dont

Free exp the gun and grind the rest. That's what I did and I'm at 70k exp grinded after getting all the modules and I bought it 4 days ago

[fresh vine]

dont

to be serious, use its turret armour effectively. it is your only strength stock

[delicate dock]

Also learn to manage the autoreloader (when you get it)

[harsh whale]

You want to tell me how 1256xp is an ace for one player but 1426 isn’t for another on NA server

@stone hill @bleak ravine

[tepid geyser]

yes, ping wargaming...

[harsh whale]

@tepid geyser yeah because it’s moronic. 170xp more and no ace. The game is broke as hell

[tepid geyser]

doubt

it's called spotting and assistance

[harsh whale]

@tepid geyser are you dumb? Ace bars are based on xp. Spotting assistance leads to more xp. The 1st class has more xp than the mastery does. Therefore has done more damage/assistance

[tepid geyser]

ace bars reset

[harsh whale]

It’s the same day.

Ace bar didn’t reset today

[floral rain]

isn't there a weekly soft-reset every monday

[harsh whale]

@floral rain what is a “soft” reset and how does it differ from a normal reset

[floral rain]

I don't know the details but isn't the description of the ace something along the lines of "top 99% of players in the past 7 days"?
I have no idea, if I have time i'll look around and see if i can find anything

[tepid geyser]

yeah, it's top 99% over the past 7 days

[harsh whale]

Yes but considering these were both on the same day and both on the NA server it’s jank

[tepid geyser]

hmmm

[devout tapir]

How do I even play this

[hollow notch]

Play it like a heavy with no armor, dpm, alpha, accuracy, or pen

Serious answer:
Armor doesn't work, don't rely on it.
Gun is bad, don't rely on it.
Mobility is poor, dont rely on it.

Only good thing it has is gun depression.
Play it very cautiously and meatshield all your allies. It's bad, but if you farm damage you will make bank

[clear bobcat]

the turret seems to be supportive to having armor, ut bassicly any tank can pen it

[solid gate]

Not really the “amour” on the turret creates its own effect to where it defeats itself by guiding players to shoot around it

[devout tapir]

Alright, thanks for the help.

[strange thicket]

@harsh whale maybe someone got an ace right after you got that one

[ornate temple]

Tvp op pls nerf
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/788933952752582686/818593707338498148/mobizen_20210308_1715370.mp4

HE is kinda cracked ngl but it's a tricky tank lol

[static harness]

Also
F**k.the WT auf pz 4
I can't stand that thing
Both playing it and against it

[ornate temple]

The t9 waffle is by far one of the best tds you can play

[static harness]

Doesn't change the fact that I hate it with a passion

[ornate temple]

Lol

[solid gate]

Stock?

Stock 15cm made me cry too, but once got the top 15cm...

[karmic nymph]

And it’s getting a big buff with the spall liner and recticle calibration. He no more

[solid gate]

Entire grille line: Suffer until getting top gun, enjoy the top gun, suffer in next tier stock...

[static harness]

That's why I use the stock 128
Slightly less suffering

[solid gate]

M8 stock sucks in waffle, get the top 15cm and start to yeet ur enemies

[hoary mist]

Hey guys someone knows the limit time to get the offer for a legendary camo again?

[solid gate]

Which line should i grind next, e3 or wz 113?

[hoary mist]

E3

If it's any use, I've been in void.

[brittle atlas]

e100 tip pls

[ruby lintel]

Angle your turret to bounce shells because prammo against your turret flat on is like a hot knife through butter.
Also, sidescrape. Your lfp is larger than Germany itself, so try to hide it.
Lastly, don't be the typical e100 player that camps cuz large caliber and alpha and/or yolo's into the whole team because your a super heavy. It wont work.

[brittle atlas]

ok

[graceful anvil]

What is this good for?

[solid gate]

Idk but it's a pain at times if someone knows how to play a light like that

[tepid geyser]

clip and run, watch fatness's video on it

[static harness]

Sell it and buy the 13 90 instead

[graceful anvil]

Oh ok :D

[static harness]

no don't pls
Never sell premiums
(Excpet if you are me, then you are allowed to)

[graceful anvil]

I only sell collectors in emergency to get special offers but restore later, I don't like selling tanks because me and my bro do this thing where we use every tank we have in training rooms as a tourney thing until we beat all the other tanks

[glass relic]

It's good as a watered down 13 90 that needs more precautions to play than usual french light tanks because of it's 160 alpha, at a T8.

[woeful root]

"Noob advice"
For Ho-Ri Type I
please

[hollow moth]

Try close quarter support and second line with heavies if you got the top cannon @woeful root

[woeful root]

T H X for advice

[zealous dew]

Can someone give me a Tip which Tier X I should Grind First?

[keen garnet]

IS-7, E100, Obj 268 and T 62A are good starts

[karmic nymph]

When you don’t mention t110e5 which is like the easiest line ever and is so good

[wooden crater]

it's the easiest line ever if you have ~350k fxp to skip the t8 and t9

[karmic nymph]

The tier 9 is good tho... imagine an is8 but better in like every way except side armor

[wooden crater]

that's not a very high bar

[karmic nymph]

It’s a super flexible tank with speed boost and reactive and the gun is great. You can do decent hull down if you don’t sit there. I prefer it over sti and e75

[wooden crater]

lol i wouldn't know. m103 is somewhere on the long list of trash tanks i skipped to get to a decent t10.

[solid gate]

Amx 50B worth it? I have heard it doesn't have any armor

[strange thicket]

Yeah the turret is paper but can get troll bounces
The hull has only its front being the strong part
And the sides and rear are meh
It is a good clipper though, but not easy to play.

[solid gate]

Ok thanks

[solid gate]

Let me ask a question, literally every other Soviet heavy is awesome in their own way, but why KV-1 is bruh? Like, it's armor only work on Tier 4 tanks, all of it's guns are joke in it's own way, it's mobility is almost same as a Maus, which is a literal walking fortress unlike KV-1's bruh armor. I'm not sure if I'm being delusional here and have unrealistic expectations or WG have an immerse hate for KV-1?

[karmic nymph]

@solid gate it used to be the king and then it got nerfed and t1 heavy buffed and now the t1 heavy is king

[thin vale]

Which should i choose? Pz. IV G or Leopard

Anyone?

[stiff basin]

it depends which tier 10 you want to choose@thin vale

[soft bridge]

bdr beats t1 heavy every second

[glass relic]

Maybe they had enough of it being a good heavy then they wanted to retitled it to a meh one because somehow they decided to replace KV-1 with BDR & T1 to dominate the T5 club meta

[manic carbon]

@thin vale Both tanks can lead to multiple lines, so it’ll help if we have an idea of what you enjoy playing and which kind of tanks you are interested in

[raw panther]

Do you like heavies or meds and light?

Wow so many wg members are on discord at once

[stiff basin]

and if you don't know what to play with go for t62a

[dim hull]

Pz. IV G are easier to use since it have more pen than Leopard
On the other hand Leopard have more damage in a single magazine, but it have a weaker armor and easier to hit by enemy

[solid gate]

Because they nerfed the God a lot

[dim hull]

Anyway is Ho-Ri (Tier 10) is a good tank?
When I see the stats, it have decent damage
And its pen are amazing. But sometimes the stats doesn't tell everything

Ah, I see. Thank you

Ok thank you

[strange thicket]

Your armor profile is flat
Anything with enough pen will go right through your front

[acoustic ginkgo]

I will grind u.s.s.r line

But...is4 or is7 is bettter ?

[stiff basin]

IS-4 better but stock ST-I... yeah, you wanna free exp that part

[manic carbon]

IS-4 is better, but the IS-7 is still a fine tank for regular battles

[hollow moth]

I disagree, E100 and Jadgpanzer E100 are the easiest lines in my opinion

E100 line have overbuffed tanks om tier 6-8, one of the best tier 9 heavies and the only problem of the tier 10 is prammo against turret

[solid gate]

In e5 you can get he from the back, and it has low hp and weak ammo rack, so it's not as noob friendly as it sounds.

But yeah, e100 is really solid.

[hollow moth]

In jageroo line, it have extremely good TDs in tier 5-8 (another arguably not interesting tier 8), the big threat of Jagdtiger and then the 17cm Pak

[candid harbor]

bruh, jagdtiger isn't that bad

[hollow moth]

That's why I said it's a big threat (do I have to say that it's a big threat for the enemies?)

[tiny fern]

Just had another rigged match. 2 Anihilator on the enemy team rofl my team with nothing to counter them...

[candid harbor]

yea, i guess so
idk why I automatically assumed big threat of jagdtiger meant it is like old at8 in old bri ish line
(awful)

[hollow moth]

And then WG comes up and says "hi, those weren't actually Annihilators, because there's only a few of them. There's a low numbers of Annihilators, low enough to a nerf be useless." @tiny fern

[acoustic ginkgo]

@candid harbor ey you are back

[candid harbor]

@candid harbor yea waddup nerd
@acoustic ginkgo hey hey, do you know that nerd?

[acoustic ginkgo]

?

[candid harbor]

xD
confusion 100

[acoustic ginkgo]

Gtg
I dont have much time now,sorry

[tiny fern]

Yep. I posted a print in balance discussion rn. And yesterday I posted another on this channel. Just rigged. I can tell if I'll lose right from the start of the battle just based on how many OP very balanced tanks are on enemy team.

[candid harbor]

see ya

[hollow moth]

What are you talking about, annihilator is as balanced as Rambo

Tottaly balanced

[tiny fern]

As balanced as Rambo killing 200 soviet soldiers alone

Soviets with MiGs, T-72s and Mi-28

[candid harbor]

@tiny fern bruh, I don't think you are adequate enough to even mention that mm has issue

[solid gate]

kv 1 is a tank which is useless in fact it is a class 4 tank, WG killed this star of old times due to kv-220 and now it is just a sad memory of the old days, play with it but rather forget it than for fun (just what you it will seem helpless and the fact that you are like a training target) - you have no speed, alpha 200 (actually 160-180), long charge, no armor - bypass it from afar (if possible), in the old days this tank was not so easy to kill even with gold ammunition, he only had one disadvantage he was terribly slow which he only had left now ---- WG solution for tanks what is super strong as TECH TREE tanks

[candid harbor]

like, I don't even put myself in position to say anything about balance of mm

as it is supposed to be random

[tiny fern]

Why I'm not even surprised? Ofc some kid is gonna search for stats and say some bs... Bla bla wr bla bla WN8... Who cares dude? The point are OP tanks and unfair MM. What a childish behavior... I'm not suprised tho, as wot players have a big fetish for stats. Anyway good job for you, you such a good player.

[candid harbor]

ah yes, the classic
i can't learn to play better and I can't read that description of mm that says it is random instead of "fair"
but I am completely in position to throw tantrum about mm

[keen garnet]

^^^

[hollow moth]

@candid harbor c'mon don't bullie that guy, he's brazilain too 😉

[candid harbor]

aye aye ;>

[tiny fern]

1st of all, I dont blame the MM for my losses as you imply. 2nd, it is too arrogant of you to ignore the main point and start comparing stats while trying to show how yours are superior.
If you didn't get the main point and started an attempt to diminish me as a player, then the problem is not mine.

[hollow moth]

@tiny fern don't make HRS regret his decision... otherwise he'll...

[candid harbor]

i clearly said I don't even consider myself as adequate to talk about mm

[tiny fern]

?

[hollow moth]

D-Dear HRS senpai... D-Don't....

👉 👈

[candid harbor]

am i missing something other than that screenshot from #tank-balance-discussion ?

this one

[hollow moth]

Actually no I guess

[tiny fern]

For me he is just an arrogant infant but who cares...
My point is how unfair the MM is being and he immediately goes search my stats to post here and proceed to post his.

[hollow moth]

But I can't lie, most of times the games are decided on the first seconds