#vehicles-discussion
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The mark 1
None
All are overpriced
cent1 should have defmk1's turret, but without the spaced armor
MK1 for sure
Tron tank
so i want the obj 140, but my friend insistently wants me to get the t-62a gun first.
should i?
dont feel like grinding another 60k
@vivid turtle you may think you want the 140, but deep down you know you want the t62a more
whichever one is more fun is up to you, but the t62a is objectively better
Does anyone know what’s the lowest amount of dmg you can get a ace in the amx 54?
Atleast 2.8k apparently
Oh
I mean 2.8k is enough might be less
damage really isn't a great measurement for aces just because i've seen an stb ace on 150 damage
Bruh
Yo what
one of my clanmates
Damn
spotting damage, and only poking to finish off enemies
i think i was talking about the emil 2 and krangvagen
damn with the new check tech tree and with the spageties now i need to play with the strv m/42 and grind around 50k xp ;d
the spaghetti 65 is a fantastic tank, the pantera is also great @granite storm
i would go for the E100, the VK72 has big side weakspots that makes side scraping impossible, the main selling point of the tank
Darn...
but i have a friend who for some reason really likes the tank. it has by far the strongest frontal hull of the Maus, VK 72 or E100
TLDR i would go for E100
Oh. Interesting.
Isn't the VK.72 frontal armour weakspot like really low on the tank? And very slim?
Oh my. I think "big side weakspots" is an understatement. But, yes. The frontal armour looks pretty splendid to me. Much better than a paper box
I'm just going to go for VK. 72. I guess because it has the same(if not,nearly)gun/damage, more speed and possibly better frontal armour.
Either way, Ima still kinda suck at the game. Maybe even get 30% or less just from progressing this german tree...
😅
Anyways...thanks, again. Sorry for the god damn essay. To anyone who reads this
vk72's frontal armor works pretty well against standard and gets buttered by gold
and the tube the turret sits on is not hard to hit if your enemies know what they're doing
a lot of the effectiveness of the vk72's armor depends on the competence of your opponent
he probably played it right after the Mastery deadline reset
im not saying that they are i dont think any of the spageti line is bad even the t6 and t7 they look really fun to play but the spageti 44 looks really chonky and easy to spot and pen with HE, my problem is i that i have to play the strv m42 ;d
I was thinking the exact same thing as you when i first got spaghetti 44 but when you get the top gun and engine, theres no stopping a good player. Except the spaghetti 46 which is better in every way but dpm
i dont see the point in t10 tanks
i just research them and never buy them
after that i just move to another nation and so on
theres no gain in playing t10 unlike wot pc where you get bounds and can buy some stuff
you get the pleasure of owning a new t10 aftr grinding a lot
t10 is also more competetive than lower ones, so you can learn a lot
yeah
In T10 you can measure your full potential.
pleasure is subjective, why spend time learning something when there is go gain from it
i thought my t10 tanks were bad, until i played them, i found out that i was just bad with them
but now i regularly play with all of them
and to be fair most good players are at low tier and most noobs are at tier 10
You just play them for fun
thats the problem, that there are always noobs at t10 who cant play and you cant win bc of that
I disagree, but there are a lot of people who havent learned the proper skills for tier 10
i cant have fun just playing without gain in return = silver/gold or xp to the next tank, i play my scropion g for gold tho and its fun
As is customary for a T10 heavy. But, thanks for the info. Also..."a lot of the effectiveness of the vk72's armor depends on the competence of your opponent". That seems very bad, because my incompetence would most likely be greater than the enemy's.
i lose way too much credits with my 183 compared to how many shots i hit, i got it bc i thought it was fun
Can any tank bounce any shots from the Jpg. E100?
yea sure, it's fun when you hit a shot for 1.3k, but most of the time you sadly don't
Nice, whatever you find enjoyment in. I wish i liked grinding lines as much as you 😉
i once bounced 800 in my bc 25 t
Bro...how...?
idk either
If it has enough armour
Tier 10s the most balanced tier and isn’t saturated from buffed heavies or premiums like tier 8
Overmatch mechanics, 3 caliber rule
Yeah, ima need some explainin' for those words. Never heard anything like, before...
When armour is angled over 70 degrees, the 3 caliber rule applies. This means that if a plate angled at 70+ degrees is thicker than 1/3 the caliber of the gun, it will bounce
Interesting...
As an example, the upper plate of the bc25t is 60mm so the 170mm gun of the jgpz e100 wont pen at 70+ degrees
That sounds like a lot of' calculations I don't want to ever do...
and you can't bounce with HEAT
ye lol
Good, it sucks the life out of you
so, if i go around this corner at excactly 70°, i will bounce the jg
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Exactly, it doesnt apply with heat
Yes, if the jg hits upper plate
ye
and the angles may be different with AP and APCR, but i'm not sure
Don't count in it
It does indeed reinstall my hope for the VK.72
I think AP and APCR are the same
so it's like 1/20 shots
No its a lot less than 1/20 shots
Do y’all have some tips for the Panther 1? I’ve managed to grind my way to the top gun and the top engine carries over from the VK30.01D, but equipment-wise I’m only onto gun rammer and improved modules...
but then there is the turret mantlet with that HUGE weakpoint lol
Indeed there is...😔
If you ever bounce a jag e100 in a batchat buy a lottery ticket and then question why you put yourself in a jag's line of fire
Just keep your frontal armour towards tier 6-7 enemies and bully them
Seems legit
i was going around a corner
I once bounced a borsig in spic lol, not sure how that one happened though
A Borsig?
Why are you going around a corner with a jag e100 on the other side
Rhm borsig
Never heard of it. I just might be that inexperienced
the paper highly concealed tier 8 td in Grille 15 line
Tier 8 german flat td
Rhm b wt
Ill find the video clip later, i recorded it
Jesus christ, how did I not know what a borsig was...? Yeah, I know what the RHM is. I guess I can't recognize it's full name
Rheimetall Borsig Waffentrager
Yeah...I had to go into the skill trees for that...
I know for sure that I'm going for the 121
That thing looks like so much fun. The tree entire tree, too.
I'm probably going to grind the 121 after I get the stb and tvp
You should since why not and if you do then you can learn it's playstyle to counter react its style in your IS-4
I don't think I should get to play heavily armoured tanks, anymore.
Ima just finish off with the 112, then go for paper tanks. No more heavies, for me.
Am I the only one that just hates non-turreted tds? I just can't grind any td I tried to. The only ones I have is charioteer (it's almost not a td) and nightmare (just a reward).
Because it really isn't a TD
Should I be running refined gun or v.stab on the Tiger 1 and Panther 1?
V stab
Should I get the T57 Heavy or buy the Df mk. 1, and I'm just asking tier for tier
Well you don't need gold to get t57. As for mk1, it is a strong tank but idk about paying 10k solely for that.
Save your gold
i found out that if you hug any russian heavy tanks with the emil 1 they cannot do anything to you ;d
So uh, how good is E-100s turret buff? They said something about the weak spots at the turret in the update
the cheeks are still the same, can be penned with prammo.
you still have to sidescrap or bait with the tank
they only updated the gun mantlet
The buff is about the armour behind the gun mantlet
Oh..
ok I'm kinda disappointed but I guess the tank is already good enough anyway
yes, theyre quite different tanks
Do i switch to gun rammer on the stb1?
Nah imo. Stb has a relaxed playstyle, you can set up on a ridge and farm heavies like e100 right in the face with cs heat
Anyone got tips on the tier 9 patton
I've got ARL 44 and kv-1s at tier 6 heavy. Can't decide which one to grind. Does anyone have strong opinions?
Kv1s for sure
Arl 44 is the strongest t6 rn, kv1s is more fun
IS7 is very meh. But if don't mind grinding a new nation personally I would suggest the Kranvagn line. It is pretty fun.
@indigo sleet agreed
What gun on the arl? I'm finding it lacking so far
But I also had issues with kv, so maybe I'm not a heavy player
The 90mm DCA and the 105mm guns are excellent.
My problem might just be lack of modules
@honest cloak if you are talking about that 122mm kv1s I found information on it in the tank encyclopedia's article on the kv-85, which the max moduled kv 1s is loosely based on, there is also a single sentence mentioning a 122 long gun kv 122 tested in 1943-44
If I am not mistaken the kv122 is basically an IS turret on a KV1 hull
Generally the tier 8 gun is best on the arl, particularly if you are newer to the game due to its better than some tier 9s pen
Hmm... I haven't driven the patton but I've driven tanks like it. Best bet is to not be a frontline medium tank. Follow your heavies and provide assistance when needed. The armor isn't fantastic, so the best place to be is near your heavies. Overall, just don't use it as a frontline brawler and you'll be fine. Oh and hulldown of course
The howitzer?
Can't hull down the turret gets penned by anything that has a gun. And I mean what I say even tier 8 go right through the mantlet. But other than that thx for the advice @solid gate
Is the Slovakian tier 6 really gonna be 3 shells-
@honest cloak no the long barrel d25 if I am not mistaken
Exactly what the 85mm kv1s is, it's a kv1s with an is-85 turret, not much is known on the 122 long gun variant from what I see though
The mythical KV-122 was a one off made in 44 before likely being scrapped.
To be honest I feel the American mediums all need buffs.
It basically was an IS-2 that was worst than the IS-2 in every way.
Here is the article of what I found, it's near the bottom in variants
https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/soviet/soviet_KV-85.php
Škoda t 25
3 shell auto loader-
Yeah but then what was that short barreled 122? The KV-122 has a long barreled 122mm gun that was copied from the IS-2's D-25T.
will the k91 offer be available again after this? maybe after a few months?
Yeah it probably will
alhamdulillah
This is all that is on it
So there were two KV-122s then.
It seems so, one with a howitzer and one with a long gun
You know what would be cursed.
A kv-1 with arl 44 stock turret
That stock turret was horrible. I immediately fxp'd it
This is the short barrel KV1. It was known as the KV9
Did u guys know there were plans for a KV7 and there were KV variants with flamethrowers fitted in. These models were called KV8.
@sudden plover yeah that was pretty much how I felt playing the tank. But don't worry u will like the IS it is fun. U can play the IS with the 100mm gun. Don't use any of the 122mm guns until u unlock the top 122 gun. The rest of the tech tree is incredibly meh.
Cursed tanks exist back then
:|....
Like a kv 1 with a tank destroyer gun...
Yeah those aren't as cursed as the early KV-1s. Go find some with the "upside down" mantlet.
One of my cousins from Russia also said that the kv 1 also had a kv 2 gun but it was only a failed prototype. And then the kv 2 with a box turret was made :|...
The tier 10 M48 Patton in WoT used to be called the M48a1 but all models until the a3 carried a 90mm the Patton with the 105 OS the M48a5 Patton.
hello maybe polish tanks for update 7.9?
@polar ferry yeah that would be cool. Maybe also give the sweeds more gun depression. Maybe to 11 or 10.
I feel 9 kinda sucks if I am being honest. U can't really maximize the turret armour.
yea
Yeah the Stridsvagn 74 would benefit from this, especially with that long head.
The Strv 74 is fine as it is but yeah you're right the tank would benefit from the extra depression.
How's the Leo?
Good. Great in the right hands
What are it's gun calibers?
75, and 105
The Leo gets a 105mm gun!? With 9 degrees of gun depression!?
I love the leo. Decent peek a boo capabilities for a t7 med.
yeah the leo is nice, i loved playing it for the line
The armor is also troll
Not dependable but you'll seemingly bounce things that shouldn't
The Leo is cracked if played properly
I think 9 degrees is fine with the Leo then. Lol
The heavies in the Swedish line are good but the Emil1 and Emil2 need to get the engine researched first.
I researched the gun first. Rather be able to pen.
For which tank
Both emil 1 and 2
Gun > Track > Engine
Engine is lowest priority because track offers better P/W ratio, gun handling and hull traverse
True
P.43 is boring.
Yeah both bis and ter
The pantera is good tho, so its worth the pain
Yeah but it sucks when u have it stock
True
Always get gun first
Those are the tanks that are the worst. They're not amazing, but not bad, just good. Bit boring.
I am very tempted that once I've research all of it's modules just to free XP to the Pantera.
save free xp for pantera modules
I would do that
^^I have 250k.
O.O
Your good then.
@ruby lintel only problem is one must acquire the turret then the gun and I do be low on the free exp
Yea, iwas too when i went for the pantera.
I just saved my free xp over a weeks time (with boosters) and got both with it
anyone know how to get more credits on the lttb??
What's wrong with the Pantera's 90?
Nothing it just isn't the best
Credit boosters, less prammo spam, and a premium account
^Not dying with no damage is also helpful.
just not dying
If u go for the pantera get the tracks and engine then the turret and gun
Rly, i did the opposite.
The thing is so big it needs the speed
I was gonna say for something like the Pantera you'd prolly want gun first. Especially if the gun is lacking.
Stock gun is spain but without the s
The gun isn't bad it is just meh
I wish the P.43 ter could get a better engine though. Or a better reload speed for the 90.
Gn guys
Oh ok. Goodnight FBI Agent.
Gn m8
Who plays tanks stock?
Me.
Chi-Nu was an awful experience with the short 75.
Why would you do that? Play tanks you enjoy, build up your free xp, then use it on the tanks you're grinding. There is no reason to play tanks stock, it's not a race to get the next tank.
I always free xp
It's just how I play. But it also explains why I rarely see stock tanks.
Edit: If anything grinding for Free XP feels like a really awful time.
But im too cheap to skip crew training on high tier tanks.
I always grind it from 75%. Its not too bad since I have purple crew boosters and can use full provisions 24/7 etc
^Yeah I always go for the 75% crew because I've got the credits to spend.
I’ve grinded all my tier 10s from 75% crew minus t62
Imagine grinding tier 10 crew.
That's so painful. That's why I always gold tier 10 crew.
Tier 9 crew is already painful enough for me. I can't see how you endure the tier 10 crew, which is longer.
i have maybe 122k or 166k free exp on my lttb
same lol %50 crew is really bruh
lttb is OP in gravity and realistic
I don't mind stock usually,but VK45.02B is first tank I said "screw this, I'll return to it later" and I've played stock St. Emil
Despite that I've free xp'd turret and opened second cannon before
Side armor needs a serious buff.
It's not supposed to be the same as the e75.
You're not supposed to sidescrape heavily in it like the latter.
I just explained why you don't have to play stock tanks. Money or no money is irrelevant.
Question: What happens when a track has above %100 efficiancy value for a terrain?
Idk
you go faster
I'm like 60% sure the way terrain resistance values in blitz are just p/w ratio * terrain resistance decimal (not percent) and the answer you get is effective p/w ratio
i have a little question
a friend told me that there is a tank that shoots guided missiles
If anyone of you knows the name of that tank, pls tell me cuz i think thats insane
sheridan tankl
Sheridan missile it can’t participate in normal battles
so only the third modes like realistic?
Only special game modes or training rooms
k thx
but you cant get it anymore, unless wargaming decide to sell it for coins, gold or real world money
They mentioned that there potentially will be ways to get it in the future
and what about the t92? i thought that one could launch rockets as well?
I play tanks stock and grind for top modules. I save up the free exp for emergencies.
example: the WZ110 at tier 8 turret gets penned by everything. Not fun at all. Then there are no stock tanks like the Emil2. Sure it's slow stock but the gun is still solid.
Now bare in mind I am using the Kran line a lot is discussion bcs that was the best line I have ground so far. All great tanks.
Emil 2 stock gun with 242 pen on prammo against tier 10, no thanks.
Top gun and on top of a hill, yes and it is ridiculously fun
Stock Sturer Emil is pain
I have suggestions for a new premium tank, I present to you the Bob Semple tank, Australian cousin of Tog II ( new meme tank in blitz ) 🤣
Premium tanks has great advantages in many maps because of it's performance, the requirements for buff or nerf are highly suggested.
That tank has tiny arms @merry vigil
How good is the Matilda IV vs T14?
T14 wins imo
matilda iv is really bad tho, atleast T14 actually has some armour
Cool thank you guys
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T110E4 is good TD?
Imagine an E100 with less HP then there's a tumor not to mention the same weaknesses on its cheeks and the unavailability of Sidescraping.
So it's recommended for new TD players or not?
Nope, go for OBJ 268 a truly new comer friendly TD line
I myself learned TD playstyle on the 268 line and it truly works like a charm.
@solid gate not at all it’s a bad vehicle even most experienced players still struggle with it
Ok thanks for the help
Hows the TVP line
Any one need tips on playing the tiger one (eps on Asian servers), I keep seeing idiot tiger players running down hills or rushing and nerfed in an instant
Tbh. I wanted the premium t 25 back then.
But now it's in the tech tree for 25k research. But also kinda akward for the peeps who bought the t 25 premium-
is T6E1 good?
The new Czech tanks.
Arrived in Blitz in update 7.7
Those of you who have already free XPed past the tanks, and played some battles in them, I would request you to express your initial thoughts about the tanks, so that those who do not have them, can get an idea of the line
Literal first time playing. What are some good light tanks? Thank you.
Vickers Light is really strong, it's a borderline med. Sheridan is another option, very fast with troll armor and a 152mm gun.
The M3 and M5 Stuart are good in my opinion
SOS ?
Which is better to take,Bri'ish HT line Or TD line?
Neither
I’d say the second TD line is better
rhm or isu, if isu react with the letter a, if rhm react with b
We cannot react.
i just realized that im a nub at life
But I recommend ISU-152.
well, which do yall prefer?
That tank is really good. Better than Rhm in armor. Mobility is... Meh. And the grind is tough. But definitely you will be happy once the grind is complete.
The one with the Bri'ish KV2 right?
No, the one with the barn
just saw lt432 stats, 75 km/h, 33hp/t base (over 38 with equipements)
, don't need wheeled vehicle if he have this king of tank, drac and lttb were already a bit too fast imagine this thing in battle, what are your impression about it?
curious what your source is because 75km is pretty stupid
why stupid ? ru already has 80
with garbage accel.
source??
when the tank went in pc it had similar stats, but in blitz with small map, it's almost like teleporting to other side in 15sec
It’s not final still testing phase
wat
hmm in test but that means they plans to give it this kind of mobility
But wargaming is not gonna be happy about these leaks
wheres the thunder buff
the tank will also probably make t54 ltwt useless
are the czech tanks worth the grind? i still want to get a heavily armor tank but the paper meds look fun ish
Oh well, and now we get another OP premium that they won't want to nerf because some kids will cry
If the 432 has thick enough armor to autobounce...
Lol
Balans
front turret is labelled as having 160mm
Should I get the Patton or go for the new Czech line?
tvp is very high skill, get it if you're a unicum
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Is it common to have to go to the garage to get more ammo after a battle? My ARL 44 and Tiger have to be reloaded after with ACPR after battles.
Your auto restock option probably hasn't been checked.
ok, I'll check that, thanks.
Auto resupply is selected. I think it is the default setting. I nevwer have seen it not set since I've been playing...
Thanks for your help tho.
@fickle nimbus check that you are buying the apcr with credits and not gold
Flaming had it right. I meant the FV4005 is a better line than the Brit heavy line. Both tier 10’s are not super easy to play but 7-9 of the TD line are good and fairly straightforward play style.
Is there going to be new types of sights from the cross a and line ?
Like a sight from pc
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they should make the fire power of the ltwt better and the firepower of the lt432 worse, the lt432s strength is supposed to be its speed and camo
any of you have any idea how the pudel will come to stores
I think it will come by crates, since most premiums first come by crates. Or as Pop-up offers.
hopefully in gold
Me too. But I think Pudel is same as VK 30.02 M.
i just want spend my gold and im willing to exchange my eagle 7 for the polish panther
Because both have identical features. Both have same guns and armor... not sure.
That's a very wrong move. Very wrong move.
That tank is like Pershing in tier 7. Strong gun mantlet covering almost the entire turret and blocking most shells with it
i already have tier 7 premiuns and i'll be fine
Still, that tank is powerful enough.
type 62 and annihilator
You can bounce from Annihilator's shots. Even it's premium can't penentrate it.
wg doesnt want me get the m4/fl10 for some reason....
For you?
whats the hardest tank to ace?
event i could manage to get it for free
if the LT432 or the others come to crates im not gonna be spending my money on it
i really want the lt432 its the premium im most looking forward to
Barn is the British KV-2 bruh
Stock 75% crew Emil 1 has a 25s reload...
Yes, obvs
Guys, what should buy in shop with 8500 gold? Or should i save it instead?
Save it I suppose, but if you want an OP credit grinder and a pretty good tank, get the Lowe
Ok i will save it, thx for the advice and i already have a löwe so thx for the recommendation
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safe to say that Tvp 50/51 will get nerfed? I just witnessed it Tear A Badger apart
Anything could tear a Badger apart if it gets behind
hope you were not lying 😄
I will just keep waiting for it
Also, "...might be available in stores in February"
ye,hope it won't be a trash news
Well, it won't change anything for me anyways so I don't care enough to hope a new camouflage for it
I just hope to see 4 things in blitz soon
- No more BP spam
- Battle ducks again
- Realistic legendary camouflage for jagdpanzer E100
- My enjoyment on the game again
Lol, that last point XD
Yikes, the last one really hit hard
soo guys can anyone sugest a tank with extremely annoying speed and and a really annoying dmg and a good def
mainly speed
why does the tier 7 czech tank have such awful dispersion
Sherry by far for its 560 alpha
ok witch the tree is it?
USA@frozen igloo
ight
Annoying for you or annoying for your enemies?
enemies ofc
Lux you're a masochist?
I’m here, if that means anything
Just wondering how can you come up with a tank speed that is annoying for the user instead for the enemy.
@glass relic there is a tank with speed 25 I think
im pretty sure that same tank has the special consumables, no?
T28 proto 🥲
LT-432 has some nice top speed
dont mind quality lol
You can check the stats on blitzstars tank compare
Cant wait to see the stats got bonked to 65 top speed
Blitzstars is more convenient cause you can get more detailed info way organized and you can also add up some other comparison experiment.
object 907 is basically a t22 med
Not really
It is a combination of 140 and leo1. And nerfed t22 gun to balance it out
dpm is great tho
3680 which is better then t22
old but gold
that looks... very concerning
That is one way of putting it
The fact it’s faster than a leopard 1 is depressing
The fact that it outperforms almost every tier 10 medium in the current meta is depressing but, it's in testing it might be nerfed.
It has a nice and sketchy armor profile to shoot at. Gonna be fun
I am more surprised by the fact that Object 140 and the T-62A have higher shell velocity than the Leopard 1.
It also has 7 degrees of gun depression which is huge and t22 sides
Side armor is 40mm, its gonna get 2 calibered and overmatched by 123mm guns or larger
Hull armor is garbage and the turret isnt even that great, it's a russian version of the the leo 1
Without the gun handling because its gun handling is among the worst out of the tier 10 meds
Still even with all that it powercreps the 140 hard
Great tds can pen the sides, all other tanks will struggle, that’s still crazy
No remember that every gun gets extra normalization because of how thin the sides of the tank are, taking the sides out of autobounce
It's an easy pen after that
It doesn't have T-22 sides
They aren’t as good as t22 but not by much
Also tier 10 mediums have insane accuracy, slightly less then them is still good enough. Also the 2 caliber rules isn’t even confirmed to exist in blitz, and even then it’s not an insta pen
I did some testing today. The two caliber rule exist in Blitz, but it is not like on PC. It simply doubles the normalisation
Fyi the sides aren’t 40 the upper part of the sides angled is likely more than that. It’s 100 on the pc version idk where you got the 40 from
The stats say 60 but idk if that’s the lower part of the hull or the angled part
@karmic nymph
If the mobility is nerfed the tank is balanced
The top is 60 not 40, you are right, the sides are way different from pc
I think it is what the 140 dreams of
Yeah it is. Still I think it’s kinda much, especially the 7 degrees
The thing is that it is too much. It is too strong. But WG always does it so that it's not outright breaking the game or changing the meta. I can't say that it's straight out broken and should get a nerf. It's not worrying that a tank is overly strong like that, it's worrying that most new tanks are too strong like that
Lol. The 432 has more effective armor than a black prince
But it goes 75
With double the alpha
With more pen
And top of the line camo
but it is one tier higher so it is fine
Also seems like I won't be spamming RU/t49 for wn8 anymore after this comes out
Ah yes
The one thing that holds it back (except gun depression)
Totally fine
With that much speed, gun depression is not needed. It can move to spots where it doesn't need depression.
It's also flat enough that it can go farther forward at the base of hills, making it need less gun depression to get shots off
Also how tf do you get everything that this tank has into 27 t?
While stuff like like ru is 25 t
would be a absurd tthing if wg release the pudel in crates
Nothing too absurd for weegee
the peak of ridiculous wg did was crates that gives you crates that will "not" gives you the tank
432 really doesn't have much armor. It's just really efficiency placed. It's also tiny.
For what it is, the ru is chonky.
The sherry is also hella light, but it has an aluminum hull historically
i just hope the pudel comes into a bundle for gold
i dont have money and ive been saving gold and well i should get playing
Why would wg put the pudel in crates it’s just a tier 6
WG: money
Wg didn’t even put the t44 85 for direct sale i think
how the type 64 came first time
That was years ago tho plus 44 85 was just kinda there not much demand for it and wargaming kinda screwed theirselves over for only selling the RAAC once and in crates
I think they are overdoing it on crates. Like $50 direct sale first time around
Like T-2020? That one got me on board :D
Why are tier 10 tank players, together in a platoon, with 35000 battles allowed to play in teir 4? Asking for a friend.
Because they can :D
oooof
I mean, the bigger concern should be low battle players being in high tiers
Oh, Aint that the truth. When will they have to reach the 1000 play hurdle. Even then thats a reach..
I have an idea APC
How the apc of gta
Only tink faster resist water and fast shoot
Launch missiles or bullets
My idea is Nice or not
can i ask how fast the draculas max speed is
Top speed's 65
@hoary mist
Is the T-34 good?
It’s, in meta
T34 American its to nice tank, her turret its nearly impenetrable and have the most powerfull gun t8 heavyes with 248 mm of pen on ap decent aim and mobility. Hide your hull all the time
I'm more like the Löwe playstyle, but T34 are extremely worth opponents
Anybody know what the chances are of the 60tp being added this year?
It would be nice to have another event like the mark 1 event
M6 -E5 Good?
should i go for spaggeti 65 or the tv t50 line?
Both are quite good
so ill go for the spaggeti
Spaghetto line is pretty good, except the P43's it's not for everyone, then the Pantera, Standard B and Prog itself is pretty solid auto reloader.
Progetto is still my favourite from the two.
Standard B HEP is a meme.
Im going for the tvp
hey a wargaming can you pls add more decal like the national emblem on the tiger 131 its judt not worth if the tank just hat a camo and a number with no nationality. pls make it more realistic like the real 131 in bovington with the spare tracks in the front lower glace pls wg read this
Any suggestion on buying what premium tank that's not come in crate? coz i want to buy a prem tank but i have a tight budget rn so i can't buy crate tanks.
252u
DMK1
Chimera
T54E2
112-2
what about progetto 46? is it worth it?
A youtuber (dont remember who)) said that progetto needs a nerf so i guess its a good tank
Prog 46 is awesome.
Progetto 46, Chimera and T54e2 are the 3 best tranks in T8 I think.
tvp vtu rammer or CS?
Rammer. It has good pen already
alright
Any tips for the Emil II?
FXP or just don't rely on your turret that often other than when you're having a good amount of heights advantage over ridges.
Ok, also which is a better tier 10 TD to get, the Jageroo or the Obj 268?
268, its more consistent
Eh... I don't have jageroo, so my opinion is biased towards 268.
Alright thanks guys
So this isu 152 defender looks scary.
Its totally worth it the progetto and if you are an experienced plaayer buy m4rev
please raise the hitpoints of T28 Proto, that tank needs it. Almost like Ferdinand.
Should I go for the Chinese MT or the HT line
The Chinese Tier 10 HT has great armour tho, but yep Med’s are great on the Chinese line
Hmm thanks, I've been pretty much trying to find me a suitable Medium and I've heard lots of fantastic things about the Chinese Medium Tanks so I figured I should go for it right now
just a friendly reminder that the WZ-120 (tier 9) has -3° of gun depression with the top gun
Yikes, I guess I'll try my best to be comfortable with that then..
It's a unique challenge to play, and quite fun once you get used ot it
i would like to see this as a attachement for the kranvagn
Kranvagn means crane doesn't it
Trolley
crane wagon yeah
Crane truck
Ugly box, Ue 57 superiority
Nah jg E100 best big chonk box
False, toaster best box
Nah bro my lil box cute as hell:)
But it's pretty much useless?
Hannibal#3213 has been warned.
Basically useless
Your statements are invalid
Should I sell it?
It's not actually useless
It got an alpha buff to 180
Which is basically half the health of same tier tanks
Don’t sell it, unless you want the gold, but I don’t play tier 3 anyways (unless it’s Pz II J)
I chose the Chi-Ha randomly to reference health but turns out it has the highest HP disregarding ties ._.
Tier 3s have about... eh... 460 HP average
Are there no marks of excellence on mobile?
nope
Man, I free exped my may to the rhm and got the topgun (cuz I can't be bothered to play anything between stug and rhm) and why the hell is that thing so fun
Because it actually has camo rating unlike most TDs
Doesn't matter as I don't care and play it like a medium
And it somehow works
@lyric oriole isn't FCM 36 PaK 40 a pain to ace?
Shouldn’t be, almost no one plays it
If you can angle it’s really good. Also has one of the if not the highest win rate of all T10 Heavies.
You gotta try the Nashorn it’s awesome!
why people say 1s got buff? I think it's a nerf, make it incapable to pen straight arl front, and make it worse when facing tier 7. It can't even pen tiger 1 front with ap. Faster reload only work when facing medium
i think wg want to push the line into 'heavium' playstyle until tier 10. IS is fast, IS-3 armor is shit crap, IS-8 meant to play as heavium we all know
Grille15 best td
When i played my friend sayed is8 is crap but lol i reflected 4k dmg
no for 1v1 HE 😐
i play with my is-4 and i bounce 3-4K dmg, and then dead for 2 second from full HP (raped)
Do y’all have any advice for the Type 62? Just got it thanks to the personal 3k gold offer, and some tips and tricks in my new Chinese light would be really nice
What do you all guys think about IS-7? Is it a bad tank and not worth to grind?
Who wants to play?
I personally don't like the is 7 but it depends on your play style
Which premium tank make a lot of creds
Lowe I make around 70k/ match
Arguably all of them do but the most popular one for that is Lowe
Thanks
Wanna play?
hit and run, 2nd line support works for me
Should I get the t69? I have the xp but have heard mixed thoughts on the tank.
the tank itself is quite bad or underperforming,u have armor where u don't need it, and armor = more weight = less mobility, lorraine, progetto 46 and p44 pantera are much better but the t57 in t10 is rly good
it's the same as any other t8 med, which are all quite bad for t8
most old t8 tech tree meds have ~175mm standard, most of the newer ones have 210-225
oof lol, the t69 has the worst pen of any t8 med, and the third worst pen in t8, after amx1390 and t49
@ruby lintel T69 is a bit meh, the T54E1 after it is much better tier for tier, a great tier nine imo
@tulip edge ok. I might just free xp to the tier 9 then.
Allow me to present another french tank, drowning
How do I effectively use IS-5's armour?
Zigzag, bait enemies to shoot your upper plates, constantly stay moving. Observe where your enemy is aiming, and move the tank accordingly to make them mess up their shot.
A lot of people don't load the gold against an is5, making its armor profile really trolly.
Wiggle the heck out of this, and hide the lower plate.
I think 183 branch should have the speed booster consumable especially those AT series
All superconsumables and provisions should be removed
Wg will add them in grille branch lmao
And its disgusting
Hear me out..... what if WG adds the 60tp to blitz, now that would be awesome!
Nah
lets make the e100 irrelevant shall we
Just give 183 branch the speed booster for those AT series
How to play fcm 50t?
Git gud
Very useful advice, thank you.
It's quite hard to explain by text, but I'll try to do it
First of all, you need to understand the tank's weakness and how to use them to your favour
T28s are op
- Weak armor overall
- Extra large profile
- Slightly slower when compared to other mediums
- Your cannon is good, but isn't the best; your DPM isn't perfect and neither the penetration, but at least they aren't bad at all
No, simply no
T-28 mod. 1940 goes like
🥳
So, how do you use these weakspots as strong points?
- Your armor overall isn't that strong, but you can sidescrape against other mediums easily, also the turret is trollish. Sidescrape and hull down are good ideas.
- Your large profile is good to be a bait; if someone needs to distract the enemies, you can do it, your HP pool will help a lot
- You're a bit slower, but at least it will make you avoid rushing too much
- Play as second line medium will be an interesting experience because of the precision, but be careful, you CAN'T deal with heavies and heaviums alone even at distance
Thanks a lot.
how i play T-54 Itwt. Like i always die first. I tried anything, nothing helps so guys help me :<
You play it like an annoying bugger that needs to look out for it's target precisely since your pen is average and lack of ammo capacity makes it challenging when you wanted to do a poking battle, but your turret armor will surely helped a lot when you're in a poking battle, cause of it's mobility and turret armor the tank is best use to get a good early position for hulldown.
I usually play it with my speed to get into a good hulldown position to hold my flank and not thinking of doing something stupid, all i do is wait for an early damage or someone that got baited then just do whatever LT do in early game till mid game where you can freely use your mobility.
It can withstand a frontline fight with another MT and LT if you can use the turret armor and correct terrain management so you won't be in a terrain disadvantage when your flank become a nightmare.
Is the tier 7 leo any fun?
no, it's pretty bad
well are there any fun tanks you would recommend playing (id like a break from high tier)
a couple of my tech tree favorites are the Vk P and MT-25 at t6 and T25 AT and T-34-1 at t7
Ok
I disagree
Tier 7 Leo is a great tank, since no other tech tree medium at tier 7 has such a high alpha (except for the new t-34/100 i believe now)
the 34-100 and 34-1 both have 280 and are much better tanks
Leo has gun depression
Making it much more workable imo, and the alpha is 290, which isnt much difference, but those high rolls are a bit higher
yea it trades a lot to get that 10 alpha and extra gun depression.
Still is very workable, and I find it to be quite fun
m46 patton and pershing are kinda like that too, and are still great tanks despite their downsides
is a worth the hori tier 10
is the M48 Patton good? or should i go for the t110E5?
E5 is muuuuuuuch more rewarding then the m48
Get both but definitely E5 first.
Get both, the E5 is a great heavy, it has good armor, and a decent gun characteristics and a good top speed. The M48 is the all around medium, it has that punchy 105mm gun with decent accuracy and aiming time, the dispersion is good, the alpha is good, and the M48 has decent armor among the tier X mediums
M48 is also technically the worst t10 medium
You have a point there
Lol
How good or bad is WZ 113 G FT?
Pretty bad, poor armor, poor gun for a TD, and not that fast
An 268 that has chugged too much water.
miniaturized JgPz E100, smaller gun, less side armor, bigger cheeks
okay thank you
its most direct competition in t10 are 268 and e3, being 640 alpha, turretless casemate td's
of the three, 113 probably has the most consistent armor, being that it almost always works against standard and almost never works against gold
whereas 268's armor is super troll against both standard and gold, and e3 has that one lfp weakspot and nothing else
so, in comparison, 113's armor isn't great
another question. So if i would go for Russian meds should i go for the Obj 140 or the T 62A?
140 if you really like brawling, t62a for everything else
Comet is really REALLY good
I need tips for the T-34/100
just play it like a normal T-34-85 but do remember that you have worse turret armor
Tortoise need armor buff and speed booster
Giving it both is overkill
Even it's worse the turret is still bouncy
Thinking about grinding the E 50M line, how good or bad are the following list of tanks:
VK 30.01 D
VK 30.02 D
Panther
Panther II
E 50
E 50 M
And please say how they should be played,yolo is not accepted
Vk30s are generally considered trash? I don't think I ever played them
Panther is an awesome sealclubbing machine until you run into high pen tanks, then it's just a great tank
Panther 2 is a panther 1 balanced right, a bit bouncy, nice enough gun, nice enough mobility
E50 was a tank I disliked but did well in so I don't even know my own opinion on that, but I think it's a decent tank
E50M is a med in a heavy meta but one of the better ones and it's fun to play as well as being average in performance.
Basically with all of them you want to try and put your gun into as much use as possible, and none of them have totally reliable armour except a good upper plate which can be used to bait shots and voice hastily-aimed ones
Panther and Panther II are solid tanks.
The E 50 is where it gets a bit meh, then it gets really good again when you get the E 50 M
Just wondering, but is the T-34-2 or Type 59 better?
Is the Maus line worth grinding? If yes how I can play the tiger p and the following tanks? Because they are slow
the tiger p is a hulldown tank
Can tanks be added to existing tech-trees?
I feel like Germany should get a tier V heavy tank.
Didn’t Germany already have a T5 heavy, but it got cut because it was basically crud?
Yes the Vk 30 H
Is the Maus line worth grinding?
The maus makes the grind worth, yes
Ok thanks
Hi there, should the stage two gun be given to fv4005 in Blitz? What's your opinion?
No.
Fv 215 183 exist.
It should not have the 183mm gun. No one should want a second 183mm gun @ tier ten
But 183 collector will be tank
That's unfortunate, the VK 30 sounds better to me than the Pz IV G.
Everything up to tier 5 because boring garbage after 5.5
The 4g used to be really fun with the derp
I want to know one thing...
Why the grille 15 depression is 8° one PC version and on blitz version only 4° (in the front) and 7°(between 45° and 50° or -45° and -50° of turret travers)
dunno how controversial this is.... but I think WG should reclass the M4 Revalorisé as a TD since it plays better as a turreted TD than it does as a medium.... (posting this here because it is TECHNICALLY a vehicle discussion)
There are many tanks classified into one role, but play more like another role.
They're turning the Crusader into an autoloader?
RIP days of 2.7 reload on the crusader
It most definitely does not need an autoloader IMO.
Why does crusader need an autoloader
Can somebody convince me why i should grind the 215B line.
no
Cheap hesh and med gun
In hopes it gets buffed in the future
@opaque zealot they don’t plan on turning it into a collector
@solid gate Would you accept the stage two gun provided that the Fv183 is a collection, I think it would be better for the fv4005
No because reticle calibration exists
Removable
Then 4005 loses its relevance
I don't think so because its a fast TD
It’s not really it’s massively huge and if it wishes to close gaps or run away safely it needs its super consumable
Then the max speed may increase
That’s an awful idea for a 183
Well fv4005?
You said it yourself for a 183mm gun on a 4005
Yeah cause it actually has the 183mm gun
Yeah, why not?
Why do you want a 183mm on another tank?
The deathstar had to be nerfed significantly because of it @opaque zealot
there's the blue text if he does remove it after the operation
You mean collector status? You can play collectors.
I didnt know what it is thanks for the help
Collector tanks are just non-tech tree tanks, but they aren't premiums, so you won't collect more money with it
@solid gate @manic carbon Look, the fv4005 I want to tell you can be hit by an unarmored tank HE. But the 183 does not have such a thing, so the fv4005 should have an 183mm gun for me, when I compare it with an 183 more immortal tank, the fv4005
What does that even mean 4005 can literally mount a spall liner and run away at 25 kmh reverse for 17 seconds
Can you escape with the 183 tank
You can also do it with 4005
So they probably don't even take up space in the garage because otherwise I don't know how to remove them because ox is great but I don't need a t-15 at all
You can just sell it for gold
@opaque zealot what even is the point your making 183 is an awful tank because of how nerfed it had to be because of its gun making another one is just pointless
I sell tanks so that I go to the tree, I click on them there and I have them to sell, and these logically don't go in the tree, so I don't know how
Just go into "upgrades"
return the hetzer derp, fix armor
@stiff basin i see now thank you so much
No problem
@solid gate You are right about it but the fv4005 would be better
And that’s why it’s not getting the gun oh my god..
yes let a mobile platform with RETICLE CALIBRATION get a 183mm
183 is just like t49. You don't play it cause it's good, just for fun
4005 was wrecking havoc on WOTPC with big gun, don't do it
@solid gate haha thanks for discussing its just idea, fv4005183mmgun❤
Eh
It's not bad, but also not the best.
Assuming that's Romanian Leu, it is a nice deal, getting around 2x your value in gold as far as I can tell
I was excited to get the howitzer on the Hetzer but was disappointed...
There should be a German derp line IMO.
It's like around 6 american dollars
And 7500 costs around 110 lei which is around 25 dollars
mmhm
Maus or VK 72.01 K?
Maus
Ok thanks
I need advice should I buy a defender mk.1 or some other defender or type 59 or wait for some better offers?
@solid gate k91 easy choice by far. Mark 1 is good too but expensive
K91 does not have very good front armor or there is a huge weak spot and is marked as a heavy tank so it will probably not be as fast as the mk. 1 defender
@solid gate no it’s not as fast but it’s a tier 9, it’s gun is very good, it can sidescrape, and it’s turret is good enough for hull down. Mark 1 is very good too tho so it’s also worth it. Just that 10k is a bit expensive but that’s up to you. The k91 is only 9k
Ok thank you for the help otherwise I mean you think I should either buy the k91 or the defender now and not wait for some better tanks and I should eliminate the type 59 completely@karmic nymph
@solid gate not that you shouldn’t wait, there are other extremely good tanks like the chimera, 252u, t54e2, wz112 2, emil 1951, and amx 30 1er prot, but the k91 and Mark 1 are also really good and in that class so you don’t have to wait. Definitely not the type 59 tho
Ok thank you
Ok what if now hear me out the fv 4005 got called the chancellor which continues the alliteration (challenger, charioteer, conway, and “chancellor”)
Lorraine 40T should have 2 seconds between shells.
vickers light or ho-ri tier 10
I think the Foch 155 can be better if wargaming add 1 shell to his auto-loader (like the PC version)
Nah
The Foch 50 b is already insane with its 2400 dmg clip potential
Both wrong tank and not what he was talking about but ok
In pc. I know. The Foch 155 is Gud how it is unless we get the isu152 defender like the Chinese server did
I think the Pz 4s should be buffed a little, they just feel underwhelming and not that fun.
Buff the armor or gun?
The armour on the D and the gun on the G.
What about the s?
I face KV1s and KV2s and other heavies but am stuck on mediums on the German line, atleast give them something.
Use the electric biscuit
No idea really, I don't have it and never seen it in a game either.
What is that?
@onyx sluice you were talking about the pz4 s
Here
Add the ‘ if you want to talk about all the pz4’s
I am talking about the tech tree ones, the ones that I can get my hands on.
The tier 4 one is the best, just buff the armor on the tier 5 one
FYI electric biscuit is the French elc bis
I am more of a medium and heavy player.
I think Germany should get T4 and T5 heavies. Wargaming says the heavies are best for newbies but any who grind Germany are forced to learn on mediums.
or replace the panzer 4 g to panzer 4 h
Every time I see a tank with this camo. I think of Ghost Recon
but that is whenever a European tank uses it (British, New Zealand , France, Germany, and etc.)
Hey does anyone know the link to where it'll show the next upcoming tanks that will be in store?
How to use the P44 ter? i'm struggling to use it.
2nd line medium
RIP Ghost Recon, the good old versions.
I love this camo but i prefer the demon souls
Desert wind camo 😎
Digital Forest go brrr
Graphite is the best camo easily
How to use the E100?
Bare basics: go head to head against anything and trade shots 1 for 1. With the hp pool and alpha that it has, it wins any 1 for 1 trading situations
angle your turret while reloading, otherwise you're gonna be penetrated
how does one play the valentine 9 that is in the bp
im looking at the stats and i am confused by it
its a slow light tank, with a huge pen gun
@brittle atlas basically a bit weaker Matilda, but in tier 3 it’s not too easy to pen
Used to be nearly untouchable, and flanking it was literally the wrong thing to do against it
oh ok thx, i thought the armor was alright
It won’t protect much in tier 4-5, beware, even tier 3s got some guns on em
does anyone have some good advice on how to use leo 1? I know that it’s great for snapshotting and is very fast
Have you played the Leo PTA? It’s rather similar to that
What are your top 5 tier by tier best tanks ? (If u feel lazy top 3)
alr, I’ll try to play it like pt a thanks
Well, I can only answer from T5-7, cos that’s where I’ve been stuck at for the past few years XD
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Type 62 - it’s a T7 Chinese light tank with a 4.8 second reload for an 85mm gun (200 alpha) and amazing mobility, it’s a prem so it has godly cred coefficient, and it has 250mm prammo pen (170 alpha). ‘nuff said.
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T29 - a T7 American heavy with a turret front that’s literally impenetrable for anything that doesn’t have 250+mm of pen and a hardy ufp as well, it’s literally ‘hull-down and win’. The 105mm gun (310 alpha, 198mm AP pen) is hardly bad as well, allowing you to pretty much dominate ridge line and hill-heavy maps such as Mines.
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T-34-1 - a T7 Chinese med with a really low profile, excellent 100mm top gun (175mm AP pen, 280 alpha), decent mobility, a godly rounded turret front, what’s not to love?
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Nightmare - it’s a T5 this time, but one of my faves. Slap on CS and you get 58mm of HE pen, and said HE also has 410 alpha. It’s basically a SU-152 brought down to T5, and it can definitely lay down the pain on T4 and T5 tanks alike with prammo HEAT (250 alpha, 132mm pen) and HE alike.
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Matilda BP - you prolly know and love this one, since it’s at T5. Though the mobility is obviously rather crud, a gun with 2.8 second reload (2.3 with adrenaline) and 90 alpha with AP is not to be underestimated - it’s easily able to tear apart tanks that stay in the open, and permatracking a T1 Heavy by repeatedly poking holes through its drive wheel is also fun. Even better, it’s a prem, so it enjoys an increased credit coefficient while you play it.
BONUS: BDR G1 B - it’s a T5 heavy with a 225 alpha gun. The armour profile means that it’s extremely hard to frontally pen at range, it’s mobile enough to get that big gun where it needs to be, and of course a 10-ish second reload for a 135mm AP pen 225 alpha gun is pretty scary indeed.
Thanks . I bought Type 62 today now I know it was a wise choice
Yep, it’s a damned good light - Digital Forest is honestly my fave camo to put on it, but really that’s up to your personal taste more than anything XD
for tiger 2, should i get the better turrent first or get one of the better guns
I like Water Dragon and Wise Turtle on mine. Chinese brand tanks have very good common camos
i had spirit of the wind on my type 62, looks amazing
Digital Forest is best camo, almost looks like legit PLA fare
ngl bat-chatillon still feels better than new tvp t50/51, can someone agree
Turret. The stock one has nonexistent armor, while the top one is quite solid and forces prammo to be shot at it.
And the stock gun is workable
ok
how can i be better with t26e4? i bought it today
Sell it and regret buying it.
Is AMX 50 100 any good?
Yes, if you know how to play it. Very fast, play it like a large LT as support and ambush with that clip.
Conway should get Speed buff and then damage nerf
Naw it's fine as is
It should be Changed dude
How, the damage is fine. maybe remove that OP speed boost, but overall it's balanced.
hulldown
there are still cupolas on your turret that can be sniped though
tracks are quite weak imo
when i get the mauschen, what modulus should I research first?
You bounced
It happens to some auto bounce angles
Does anyone know why these shots bounce?
oh
is there a way to aviod it
@dry talon that happens due to camera angles.
oh so like it shows as pennable but it's not actually
You should be shooting the part in the center just below the turret in a facehug like that
ah, i see
i thought that the parts on the hull were blocking my shot or sum
thanks
At range that bar is hard to hit (but the whole lower glacis would likely be exposed).
Even if you were to hit the triangle below by Accident in close range the shell would ricochet into the bar and still Penetrate
Guys I have a dilemma. Wich of these heavy tanks is better: IS-7 or the WZ-113?
IS-7 is easier to play, but isn't that good and prammo pen sucks, while WZ-113 has best dpm of all heavies, but has much less armor.
wz113 has juicy heat
After playing with ob. 263 I think I will choose the WZ-113. I love tanks with great DPM
Why is it so hard to win in 183 despite doing good damage?
because that's a tank that farms damage very easily, but requires some skill and effort to actually help your team
It's because 183 contributes nothing to a battle other than damage, and often the damage he does is pretty worthless i.e stealing damage when the outcome is essentially already decided, or doing one extra shot before he's about to die
He can't hold a key position
He can't tank hits for the team
He can't bully enemies away from a good position
He can't flank to create pressure
He can't spot enemy rotations
All he can do is hit for a lot when the enemy pushes into the open, and especially nowadays, this is not a common scenario until the game is essentially over
@gentle wasp ye but even if u farm you still shred damage so your team have an easier time killing enemies though. Right??
@pliant lodge read my post
Posit1ve summed it up pretty well. not all damage is created equal.
So why are some people against 183 buff? 🤔
Because getting hit for 1.5k is fun
@pliant lodge Because 183 is extremely annoying since it contributes nothing to the battle, and people should be discouraged from playing it
@hollow notch I roll 1100 most times with HESH :P
If you have them on your team, they do literally nothing and contribute to you losing
But if they're on the enemy team, they're annoying to deal with and slow down the pace of the game
that's the nature of the tank, even when it was at its best it was still an obnoxious damage farmer that stagnated everything
Ngl, I do love an aggressively played 183
a good 183 playing second line support can be terrifying, but after it fires it tends to get targeted and shredded
naturally, and the vast majority of 183 players don't play the thing to exercise their brain cells. Same thing with Kv2
tbh i dont understand why people want 183 to be nerfed all the time. I almost never get hit from 183s, and pretty much never HESH'ed by them. When I use 183 I only smack noobs for 1300; good players are too map aware to be hit by the tank. And @wise moth is right, when they camp you just have to sit back and worry about them all game, but it kind of makes for a more interesting experience I think. You have to actually figure out which positions you can take without just getting nuked and still be able to do damage, which is something a lot of people that complain about the 183 have trouble with. It does slow gameplay down, but that just forces us to find ways to deal more damage without getting nuked.
Or just play a maus and laugh off an AP shell
@solid gate The way I see it, 183 is more or less balanced, it's just annoying that there's 3 in every game
What I would want to see is for the credit coefficient to be smashed into the ground, and made like 10% or something so that you lose 60k credits every time you take it out of the garage to discourage spam
Get out of here with the “I just don’t get hit by them” counter rule of luck on blitz is that no matter where no matter what no matter the advantage your gonna get hit and penned by the 183
just git gud man
Having issues with play style of 183 :I sniping is terrible and frontline is awful.
I died inside when Fatness was playing E-100 and he just casually tanks 3 shots from this Kpf before he even turns to shoot him
@pliant lodge sounds like you need an actual tank mate
Lol
183 platoon in skirmish
yes I would agree with the credit coefficient increase. It's definitely balanced, but I see maybe 2 at max per team.
@solid gate except that if you know how to position because you have 20k games and you know the maps and you know where the 183s usually sit and they're pretty much always spotted so you know where they are all the time then you just dont get hit by them
This video says otherwise
@gentle wasp man it's so annoying knowing you did damage but it's always that one shot that could make a difference mixed with today teams
You don't get hit by them often, but when you do, it's frustrating, and when they're on your team, it's frustrating because it's like playing a tank down @solid gate
The problem isn't the tank really so much as the idiots who spam it
again, damage isn't everything, and with the 183, it's usually nothing. If you're worried about teams then you need to play an actual tank that can do most of the things Posit1ve mentioned.
@gentle wasp then what's the point of 183 then? Eh..
i guess it's annoying, and I do see a lot of useless players that spam it and never learn how to actually play the game, but still. I have seen many players that actually understand the game and do well consistently in the 183
to be played by obnoxious apes who like to redline and smack stuff for 1300 "for the memes"
@pliant lodge It should be a tank you play for fun every now and then. That's it
It shouldn't be a tank where there's literally 3 of them in every game played by apes who each have 3000 games in derp tanks
@wise moth they should make FV 183 like they did in WoT. Make it collectable or something
Better 183s than smashers
well yes but that's only because I don't play t10 anyway
thats an stb1, and the 183 is behind a bush. Besides, if you werent exposing yourself while you were on that reload, you wouldnt have taken the hit from the 183
so you're a sealclubber then.
183 has the perk of absolutely ruining someone's game and nothing else
That’s not mine and nice awareness that’s a waffen who literally had a damaged gun and pin pointed a stb hulldown in his hatch
skilled gameplay
again, why do you expose your tank AT ALL while you are on a reload
I Got AMX Teir 5, finally
indeed
Do you not know what hulldown is or something
@solid gate So that you can be fully aimed for when you *are* loaded
Just think of the poor seals
I think of them a lot
oh
Merciless fool
This is from HRS so courtesy of him he literally even shows where he got hit and the waffles perspective
It's more fun when you accept the club
i understand that pos but I would rather not expose myself at all to a WT for like 6 straight seconds. It couldve been possible that there was another tank that was aiming at the stb that wouldve hit it as well. I would rather preaim in cover and then come out for 1 second and take the shot than sit for 5 seconds following the WT
@solid gate yes i obviously do not
If you had a tog, I would offer to join you
If you had a tog we would do countdowns so I could farm masteries off of you
You aren’t a true blitz player until you own a tog
I do have a tog 🤫
👀
The post buff tog is actually a beast though
yes, actually insane tank. I played a few games in it last month and i actually bounced a few shots
yo we just got a new line and you already want a new one. cmon!
Rincon would be interesting
I would recommend it, it's a solid all-around tank, one of the better t9 heavies. great gun, good armor and mobility
the krangvan and rinoceronte are nearly identical other than the fact that the krangvan has a much better turret and a bit worse speed
dont expect the the rinoceronte to come to the game soon, or ever
I don't get the hate for 183, an ISU-152, Waffle, Jagdzilla, KV-2 as an example on lower tiers has same effect but almost no one complains about them being broken.
its just that the 183 has incredible pen, even tier for tier. also tier 10 is taken more seriously (in my opinion)
but i dont like getting hit by any of them 🙂
Honestly the opinions of 183 are just what happens, you take anything and give it the highest damage in the game and people will complain.
I mean, think it that way. You're a Maus, which would stop your progress? A pesky light that spams prammo with hope that they can deal 300 damage at max or a massive gun that will wipe out considerable amount of your health with ease?
It has high damage but sacrifices so many other aspects to have it
Nah get out If you think 183 is an effective anti heavy tank it can’t hold its own nor can it no longer scare off heavies the fact e100 can tank a max roll HE round into the side and keep going is dumb
both are bad but with prammo they have worse dpm and i can do my best to back into a corner or angle my butt which occasionally works but with how people play the 183, it shoots me, backs into a corner then shoots me again 20 seconds late
Basically this, you fire an AP shell at most heavies they still have 1400-1700 health left
People don’t complain about the jag because unlike 183 it’s actually useful for both sides and waffle well everyone loves a Hp piñata
of course the e100 can, that tank has lots of spaced armour on its side
Literally no one said it could hold it's own tho, but I'm damn sure you wouldn't mind the light on the corner while avoid it if you know a 183 is sniping
its definitely a bad tank but its just very annoying
If a TD can’t even defend itself against one enemy it’s as good as dead
Tiger 1 or 131 is great
And btw incase you forgot kv2 was broken for a long time to the point wargaming had to make a spall liner equipment for tier 5s before they decided to even nerf the kv2s pen
I'm not arguing it's stats, I'm arguing how people moan 183's HESH but entirely ok with ISU-152's BL-10, Jagdtiger's insane DPM while having Maus frontal armor, KV-2's ability to send many T5 tonks to garage with one simple shot
Mikoto of aheago#6876 has been warned.
I didn’t even say any stats what I’m literally saying everything you said is wrong people have complained about all of that for years jag isn’t even a issue ISU-152 is a literal glass cannon and again kv2 had its nerf
The Rinoceronte have a beautiful autoreloading improved, the Krangvan it doesn't, simple
Mikoto of aheago#6876 was banned
ISU is a good gun on a weak hull, Jag’s DPM only matters when the enemy are willing to both ignore you and stay in front of you, and KV-2 is fine due to the fact that most tanks it can meet can yeet it back
IS-5 has 0 mm of armor behind the mantlet, I know they fixed it for the WZ-112 glacial so I think it's a bug
Honestly idk how jag tigers armor is even a problem against tier 8s yeah otherwise it still gets melted at tier 10 and 9
- its not a big enough difference for wargaming to add a new tech tree of tanks
- if wargaming were to add the mechanic to the game, it would be added to the krangvan line
Jag has that dpm but is turretless with sluggish mobility, and has the lower plate and superstructure you can go through
At least it's a better platform than 263
So many 263s getting bewildered when I just keep shooting at the mantlet
I had a game yesterday of hitting the 263 mantlet in E4 with CS APCR and it literally did no damage
unlucky
you dream the kranvag with the improved autoreloading system but it is an exclusive of the heavy Italians
i dont think that logic really matters as the krangvan on pc has auto loader while the krangvan on blitz has an auto reloader
so wargaming arent too concerned about the blitz tanks having the same mechanics as the pc tanks
@lyric oriole to add insult to injury the shell PNG penetration mark was there and I even got to his side and looked it hit nowhere near the bad part of the mantlet
Does anybody know how to effectively use the vk 30.01p?cuz I play this tank and it really sucks
@fresh vine blitz is pretty much independent and kind of a test platform for PC to follow now
Hulldown, it's a solid tank that's main focus is the turret armor and gun
i agree that its independent but i disagree that it is a test platform
Thx
5.5 and then a bit later PC does the same, Japanese TDs, etc.
Don't worry that they will come, after the Poles, they are already testing the other European lines
@lyric oriole any means of buffing IS 5 behind mantlet? :3
I don't work for Wargaming
why bother shooting that
5.5 yes but there are no plans for japan TDs on pc, the equipment on blitz is completely different to the reworked equipment on pc, the crew skill rework test is completely different to the crew system on blitz
That's because PC has been around for so long they dug themselves a hole by introducing a million types of currency for the game
i dont see how that has anything to do with it
It has everything to do with it
The equipment system here is all credit based
They tried doing spare parts and that backfired heavily
It's a much easier game to follow and ifi I remember right PC has been trying to undo some of the massive equipment differences
ah yes the bond equipment, but what i mean is that pc has a complicated mess of stat based equipment slots, you can only choose 3 equipment pieces and some other minor inconveniences
guys do you have any instructions on how to play the tog?
bought it for the meme but i'd like to master it
lmao
step 1: platoon with another tog
step 2: front towards enemy
step 3: hurt people
step 4: overwhelm the enemy
step 5: victory
then the clock rings
advanced tog techniques:
land ship superiority
items needed:
GR, adrenaline and a good platoon mate
execution: “rush enemy do not stop”
so its basically: rush the enemy and hope to not die? guess it works for me
things to be aware of:
anni platoons
smashers
SU-152s
hulldown T29s
Hulldown Tigers
decent anni platoon = victory royale
How to tortoise?
@solid gate buy jagtiger
free xp @solid gate
I don't have enough. Should I gold crew for it?
but seriously, go with the heavies and when an enemy goes round a corner just track and damage them
quick tip: the 215b 183 line sucks
no, 75% crew is good enough
the tier 5, 6, 7 and 8 of the 183 line are good now
I feel like the tier VI german td that i will refer to as the Max (Server wont allow me to say the name) is kinda op
What about the tier 9 then?
Like the gun feels too powerful for its tier
the tier 9 isnt that good. it has a great gun but its slow and doesnt have much armour
So how should I play it? 2nd line support?
2nd line of support on the heavy side
but seriously, just play the jagtiger
I consistently get at least 2 kills a game and do a lot of damage
Yeah, but I'm not going to grind a whole new line just for a tier 9, even though it's good.
I feel like ~310 a shot is too much for the Max
literally the Jpz is better than the FV183 for the massive dmg dealer TD role
but if you want dmg, you go for jpz
True.
anyone else have the same feelings about the Max?
yeah what is it’s DPM, why is it so fast to reload
Is it possible for the German E-100 to have this type of turret because it'll look like the E75 and tiger ll turrets (a research able Turret?)
No because it never had it
E-100 originally had the maus turret
Would e100 with the maus turret be broken?
Japanese heavies have already been established as too big to come to blitz @sacred trail
Too big? When did they say that?
It was in one of the answer channels a while ago it was stated maus had to be downsized to come to blitz and the japanese are just too big for the maps
Didn't a few tanks had to be down sized?
Bro if you can get the Type 62, then get it, It one of Tyne best light tanks in the game
not many battles but still this tank was amazing ;d
What gun is better for the VK 36H, the 75mm Waffe or the 88mm?
88cm duh
The 88 only seems to be better for alpha damage. The 75 waffe is better in virtually all other stats.
Yeaah great elevation and cannon depression
I also like to play with my t 150, I think it is a little broken. Not too slow, very well armoured and 122mm cannon, even if it is imprecise
The problem is you’ll need that extra alpha for doing heavy things, since you don’t have the mobility to make the better dpm of the Waffle work
Plus, the 88mm has HE, which will go a long way towards clearing paper TDs like Nashorns and Hellcats asap
Improved modules or defense system for tanks with weak ammoracks?
Tanks for the help brother.
Defence system, though I usually prefer Improved Modules for the extra track durability
@onyx sluice definitely the 88, it’s also getting buffed the next update too. The alpha damage matters a lot
yup, with the 88 you win like 80-90 percent of your battles if you use it as a trading option
What's your opinion? should Type 59 get a buff? Not to big tho.
Yes a player buff by just clubbing brainless enemy with the tank.
What?
Just be a really good player and play the tank then you'd feel it's really superior, at least towards your non experienced enemy.
Bruh, That has no reference to my question.
Neither do the tank buff.
W H A T
Dude I just asked about other players opinion on Type 59 if it should get buff, and you come up with "Just be a really good player and play the tank then you'd feel it's really superior, at least towards your non experienced enemy." wtf?
Well that's my opinion tho.
type 59 doesnt need it
I feel sed no one laiks muh wurds, when i speak.
I would say a little could be done, reloading 8.3 maxed with 260-280 real DMG in battle with not to big mobility and armor without bigger problem for most of meds and a really bad depression
gun depression shouldn't change, chinese tanks are notorious for hilariously poor gun depression
Yes but DMG could be little bigger
buff the dpm or hp perhaps
300-350 per shot or 7.5 could be ok already
most of shot are between 260-280 now with more than 8 secs of reload thats meh
Idk what happened because few months ago I was playing it and half of shots were above 300
I have a feeling like its making less damage than like a half year ago
I don’t know, the Type 59 is kind of flying below my radar, but I don’t perceive it as particularly strong or particularly weak. I mean, you can always buff those tanks that are around average but it’s not that necessary
Well yeah it ain't bad but it's just meh now and feels like it would be a regular tank from tech tree really. 7.5 reload +20-30dmg per shot and it would be good.
And how is that a bad thing? Premiums don't need to perform better than tech tree counterparts
Yes just most of premiums have something special about them.. Atleast I have a feeling like that
im not having the fun time i though that i will have in the p.43 bis
I... eh... okay?
i wanna buy a new tank ,but which one should i buy ?
tog 2 or is6 or T26E4 ?
