#vehicles-discussion

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soft hatch
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Please nerf the annihlator it ruins the game

fresh vine
gentle wasp
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it can be nerfed, just extremely unlikely to be

tulip sail
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Everything can get nerfed

solid gate
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@turbid moss ブロック解除おねがい。こあだよ

fresh vine
woven cradle
solid gate
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Ok

fresh vine
brazen tangle
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Ok mt25 is so fun lol

candid lark
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what are good tactics for the IS-8?

gentle wasp
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Play like a big med

candid lark
sacred trail
winter oar
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Breh, Taiwanese Bulldog is fast 🥔

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I love it

glass relic
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I really want to get the M41D but then again, i gotta hold myself together so I won't fall to this first released Cash Grab shenanigans.

solid gate
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It’s worse than the base bulldog

glass relic
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I heard that a lot but then again probably because of my personal taste of collecting some tanks that i like, all i need to do is just wait for it to be cheaper or just forget about it.

lethal kindle
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It's actually better imo

solid gate
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Dpm is barely higher it has more penetration but barely an increase the accuracy is lower and despite having 200 more horse power the base model still has a higher P/W ratio and max speed

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winter oar
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or not :V

glass relic
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The base one also has better flexibility on its gun dep,

so the effective hp/t is like the real one? And not the p/w ratio?

solid gate
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It doesn’t have the credit co listed either so dunno if it’s even a decent earner or not

winter oar
glass relic
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Oh yeah how does Emil 1951 compared towards the Emil I? I never done some research on them because of rare encounter

winter oar
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Tbh, I was hoping for them to be in gold or cash but noooooooo. they are in Creates. Probably later on these months I'll probably get them with my spare gold sitting

wooden crater
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the rest is mostly a wash

floral rain
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Yes

neon raptor
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ofc

wooden crater
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kran gud

twin mural
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Can you pen a turret of a Kranvagn from a range of 250 m with APCR?

glass relic
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Nope.

wooden crater
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no, only with very high pen TD prammo

neon raptor
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penetration of APCR and armor thickness of the turret?

floral rain
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No
In full hulldown the only things than can pen kran turret are ho ri pramo and 419mm heat pen on jag e100 and 268 (i think)

twin mural
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Oh ok

glass relic
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Most of the time you need HoRi AP and Abit of elevated position on your tank.

neon raptor
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I may start to grind on the EU tech tree for the Swedish HTs

should i? Is it worth it?

wooden crater
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its 370mm unangled and 450 fully depressed

floral rain
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And even then it's dependent on RNG
Ho-ri pramo requires shell normalization rng to pen and 419mm heat require extra pen rng

wooden crater
neon raptor
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in a hull down position its too thick, but in a flat ground and the turret not elevated, probably not that thick

wooden crater
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non hulldown, penning the turret usually still requires TD prammo

neon raptor
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if it is in a 90 degree angle, its penetrable

wooden crater
floral rain
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Even in flat ground you still can't pen without at least 350mm I think

neon raptor
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373 probably penetrable by some tanks

floral rain
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Ho ri pramo and calibrated heat

wooden crater
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calibrated heavy heat is ~374, so barely enough and not reliable

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so TD heat, calibrated heavy heat if you're very lucky

glass relic
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TD heats flat ground can pen it, but HT will have some RNG.

twin mural
lyric copper
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@twin mural probably crates XD

twin mural
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American invasion crates?

wooden crater
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it's unusual when a new tank is introduced and it's not in crates

glass relic
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So we already have E5 at T10 and 8 then now at T9

lyric copper
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E5 at all tiers when

rugged meadow
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what's the difference between the M4 Sherman, the Sherman Firely and Lora's Sherman?

lyric copper
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M4 Sherman is tier V, Sherman Firefly has a 76.2mm 17 Pdr which has greater pen, and Lorza’s Sherman is just a M4A3E8 but it’s Russian (due to lend lease)

glass relic
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Basically

American
Bri'ish
Ruski

rugged meadow
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ok, thx

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so the Firely is better than the M4?

tulip sundial
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Since it’s a tier 6, I’d hope so

rugged meadow
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oh, didn't realize they aren't the same tier 😅

glass relic
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Firefly is better in terms of it's pen, but loses flexibility over ridges because of 6° but the M4A3E8 have 12° but less pen than firefly.

rugged meadow
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ok

karmic nymph
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@rugged meadow the tier 6 e8 is better than firefly, but the firefly leads to the vickers line which is better

topaz parcel
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so that price that wargaming listed on the PC version is most likely fake

inland leaf
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Wait can we say new tank suggestions here or only just discussing the current tanks?

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Cuz I have a few possible ideas for the hybrid nation

restive nova
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KV-1 wouldn't need buffs if EG didn't nerf it "just cause"

restive nova
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HP to 2000

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Is it just me who's triggered by all those Tiger I reskins and yet the legendary camo on the actual Tiger I is some stupid gamescom paintjob?

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I mean I'd rather have 131 as legendary camo and gamescom as seperate tank

light ember
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They have to milk the legendary tiger for all it’s worth

solid gate
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Pretty sure T27 is going to be a Vlll Premium

fast compass
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Yes it will be

It will be

solid gate
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Maybe the LT will lead to obj 907?

fast compass
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Both 907 and lt-432 are premiums/collectors

solid gate
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Ok

twin mural
fresh vine
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Im so happy

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T100LT is coming to blitz

fast compass
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I haven't seen anything about t-100lt yet

topaz parcel
fresh vine
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Blitz post

lethal kindle
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It's not t100lt, it's Lt 432 bruh

fast compass
fresh vine
chrome fog
topaz parcel
fresh vine
lethal kindle
plucky summit
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Someone literally posted that

solid gate
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Lt-432 stands as a premium at the moment

lethal kindle
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Because it is a prem

fresh vine
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I dont think i saw it on blitz post but jt said “T100LT will come to blitz as tech tree with the LTR being the tier 9”

plucky summit
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Fun fact, VK 100.01 P was a premium at one point

lethal kindle
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I mean, every testing tank are either collector or prem

plucky summit
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Something about seeing 100 as a premium was so unsettling 😂

solid gate
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That’s just an assumption wargamings already working on about 3 tier 10s right now and multiple tier 8s it seems highly doubtful their already preparing for another line

lethal kindle
fresh vine
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Not on blitz post

plucky summit
tender knoll
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guys..are there any difference between T34, T34 Falcon and T34 (1776) ??

plucky summit
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Only camo I believe, but credit coefficient may be different too, lemme c

tender knoll
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okay

plucky summit
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Only camo.

tender knoll
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i want to know the credit efficiency

plucky summit
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It’s 170%, which is very good, with the top guy in the tier at 190%

tender knoll
plucky summit
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No

humble lotus
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Anyone like the Strv 74A2

clear night
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Yeah, the tank has good turn rate

tender knoll
tender knoll
humble lotus
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Indeed it is

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I just don't see a lot of them

plucky summit
glass relic
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Bad Chicken, you shall be fried.

plucky summit
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Can, can I pull myself to 60% first? 🥺

solid gate
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T110E5 or Kravnagn?

plucky summit
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E5 is meta, Kran is well, special

glass relic
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I like how kran is special while it's lower tier counterpart is just straight up as a forgotten kid.

tulip edge
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@humble lotus I have it but not a fan of it.
Mediocre mobility, pen is meh, not much gun depression or elevation, and not much armour

humble lotus
glass relic
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Imo the only good thing on 74A2 is just 1s intra clip

solid gate
pulsar cloak
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It is interesting to see the gladiator

inland leaf
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Erm is it possible to suggest ideas to wargaming?

solid gate
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They don’t take community suggestions unless from contributors

inland leaf
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Ah thx

glass relic
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Yes but most likely you're just a mere ant

pulsar cloak
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I cant wait to get more information but.

inland leaf
woeful horizon
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premium kids are happy to see their gifts from wg

inland leaf
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This is what I was thinking

solid gate
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Yeah their not gonna take that

inland leaf
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Likely

pulsar cloak
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It looks to be on an m6 chassie or one similar. It is definitely another heavy and the gun looks like a 100 mm or close to 100mm

solid gate
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It is an m6 just reskinned

inland leaf
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125 mm

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It is a russian heavy tank from red alert 3

pulsar cloak
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Wow that is bs, they said they were going to be adding new tanks not reskinning old tanks but 10/10 think it is going to be call gladiator

inland leaf
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Original name is apocolypse tank

pulsar cloak
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No the reskinned m6

inland leaf
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Oh nvrm

solid gate
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It’s called magnus and they already are adding 8-9 whole tanks within the next month or so

pulsar cloak
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Gladiator sounds better

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Disappointed

rugged meadow
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what are good tournament tanks?

glass relic
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IS-4
E5
VL
140
For widely and commonly used T10 tonk

rugged meadow
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VL? 140? but thx

glass relic
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Vickers Light
Obj 140

rugged meadow
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and for T6+8?

glass relic
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For me I commonly meet up with
Brombell
Pz4s
ARL-44, at T6

T8 idk much about it's meta.

rugged meadow
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ok
Brombell = Cromwell?

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either way, thanks for helping

glass relic
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Cromwell & Cromwell B

rugged meadow
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ok

sturdy plover
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Hello im atm running with a tier 5 chinese type t 34 the problem is most tanks i face (supremacy mode) have almost no good spot for penetration and i can get easily destroyed by 3 of their hits despite using ricochet tank positioning is there any good tips out there i know that premium ammo is probably an easy solution but i want to avoid spending cash

lyric oriole
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I would recommend first of all, not running supremacy in a tier 5 as you will always be down tiered.

Secondly you should be aiming for lower plates, cupolas (those hatches or mini turrets on top of tanks) or trying to get around a tank without being overly aggressive and risky

sturdy plover
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Hmm thats a good shout, thanks for the assistance ill try it out

solid gate
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they said they will buff kpz70 but 2 months later i see no diffrence what did they change?

lyric oriole
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It got better heat damage and Penetration

solid gate
vital lichen
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Hey, I'm going to grind the Bat-Chatallion line. Anyone have any advice on how not to regret my life? Also, is it worse than the american medium line?

lyric copper
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free exp

be sneeki

vital lichen
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ah makes sense

glass relic
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I had spare money on my steam wallet and bought chinese invasion crates on my main and alt account, then why the hell i got premium tank straight out of 1 crate on my low battle count alt? its like biased. Then it also goes for my NA expedition alt, i got Su-100Y out of the huge container....

vital lichen
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the SU100Y

glass relic
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WG and gives me a pity of free 100 gold from the free common container... 😅

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Not complaining or anything but.. i just wonder if this the cause of those lucky 40%wr's got their hands on crate tanks or they just spend that much to actually get it.

vital lichen
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idk, i got my su100y from a crate at like 3k battles

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and my wr is still 46.77%

glass relic
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I got mine under 100 battle not to mention also i got T23E3 and The T7 goose on my alt 1 hour after creating the acc i accidentally spend all my gold to the huge containers.. in total i opened 3(Including free one)

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It just weirds me out, when im on my main acc, i got these boosters and certs. Yet when im not on my main, its just gives me pretty neat rewards.

Also any tips on how to use 59-Fatton? 😅

vital lichen
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hulldown?

glass relic
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Pretty general thing but how do i bait people or use my weakness as my advantage
Referring it to the Cupola

solid gate
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Which chinese line should I start on? I'm thinking between the heavy or td line.

vital lichen
clear night
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Get heavy as it features good speed and mobility compare to other

wise moth
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Heavies for sure

solid gate
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Thanks.

solid gate
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Which tank is more fun and easy to play and which is more noob friendly. T110E5 or Kravnagn?

nocturne sage
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T110e5 imo

languid lava
# rugged meadow and for T6+8?

T6:

ARL44
Cromwell B
VK36 (it's like a tier 6 maus)
SU-100Y (on maps that use TD's in the strategy)

T8:

for hulldown:
AMX M4 49
Shark
Emil I
Action X
T34

low tanks for the front line:

IS6fearless
IS6
Obj252u
IS-3 defender

Td's (must be very well positioned)

Isu-152/130
Skorpion

meds:

Chimera
T-34-3

lights (spotters)

FV301
T54 PL

lyric copper
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AMX M4 49 is almost never used, neither are the IS-6s or IS-3D, the ISU-152 is barely used, the ISU-130 is also the same, I believe you meant the 130PM tho, and the Chimera is a complete replacement for the T-34-3, and the P.46 is also used

tulip edge
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@solid gate E5. Simple tank to play, has mobility, frontal armour etc.
Kranvagn takes a bit more since it has the autoreloader mechanic, and that isn’t noob friendly

languid lava
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isu-130 can do the same job as the ISU-152 xd it's basically the same tank, but the ISU-130 has less reload for 500 damage, AMX M4 49 is well used on maps where it has points for hulldown, at least i've seen several xd

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chimera is the best tier 8 medium in the game, it’s almost impossible to see a team without one xd, 252u is also very popular

solid gate
long drift
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Anyone else think the t28 teir 8 looks off

wooden crater
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it's a t95 that's missing the extra tracks on the side

long drift
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Yea I know

wise moth
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I wouldn't even take a TD at all at tier 8 comp, except maybe a Skorpion. Taking a TD puts you down essentially 800 HP for no reason, and it rarely does much that something like an AMX 50 100 can't already do just as well without putting you at a serious disadvantage

clear night
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If design is the features. Then, Germany tier tanks are the choice

dire pecan
tulip sundial
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Wrong reply but you get my point

rare forum
rare forum
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Also imo in tier VI tournaments u can take whatever u want because skill of players on tier VI tournaments is hilarious

lyric copper
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7 TOG stack all the way baby

bold silo
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chi nu kai is a below average tank with silly ace requirements 😦

rare forum
late niche
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grille or jagdpanzer e 100

broken turtle
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heard that lt432 got -8 gun depression isn't it?

solid gate
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Seems unlikely

gentle wasp
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it has 7 on PC

inland leaf
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U guys think hydroneumatic suspension should be added?

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For tanks like stb 1 and kpfpz70

gentle wasp
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no, and it won't be

neat nimbus
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anyone has thought the sta 2 isnt in blitz and why wg didnt add it as a tech tree premiun

lyric oriole
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Good question

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Anyways

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I honestly forgot STA-2 existed

neat nimbus
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if wg is gonna add better be balanced in a way would be put into tech tree premiun

neat nimbus
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atgns are still allowed in realistic which im dissapointed

lyric oriole
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But it's realistic...

neat nimbus
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yeah still not like it

dire pecan
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Yeah, and the real Sheridan used missiles in battle

lyric oriole
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You can't pick and choose realism

neat nimbus
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oh well deal with vietnam flashbeacks again

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someone got the wrong memo

maiden mica
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Should I get the m48 Patton or the amx50b?

gentle wasp
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50B

blazing moss
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Lt-432 head is to short but why?

solid gate
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Because that’s how it was designed?

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Hello good. I would like for a next change to lower the armor to the ST1 since its armor seems a bit broken

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Bruh just load prammo or aim. Lower plate is really weak.

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Or circle it if you're in a fast tank.

solid gate
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How is repair cost calculated?

winter oar
glass relic
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Bulldoggy is Mr.Worldwide

solid gate
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The danish ones have mainly just modern upgrades ammo fcs ,engine etc

winter oar
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oof, the bulldogs that are from Uruguay used HEAT and HESH. I'm guessing the German Bulldog From WoT is a M41U Bulldog since it's the only type of Bulldog that uses a 90mm gun.

solid gate
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It’s an unknown variant at the moment supposedly one wargaming refuses to release information of the gun is the normal m32 just rebored out to 90mm

winter oar
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mmmmmk

strange thicket
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didn't the Taiwanese bulldog also have a 90mm
or was that an addition by WG?

winter oar
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no, uses a 76 mm as in WoT pc

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oh wow, I finally notice that the Taiwanese Bulldog (M41D) is a tier VIII in WoT pc

strange thicket
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yeah they moved every light tank a tier up for some reason.
tech tree ones only.

winter oar
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wait in WoT Console, isn't there a Brazilian Bulldog in that different platform?

strange thicket
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yeah it does have the M41B
but i don't know much about WoTPC or WoT Winter Warriors

winter oar
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aaah okey. I'm just wondering since I've gotten into the M41 Bulldogs and variants of em

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but tbh, I'd really like to see the Danish M41 DK-1 Bulldog in Blitz or in PC

strange thicket
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meh, seems too modern. but then again that didn't stop them from adding some tanks.
i would love them to add the various shell types to the game.

winter oar
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oh yeah, but they keep em hidden if you press the ammunition thing and it'll tell you what type of round it is

glass relic
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They already have various types but only names tho, and not the actual shell type mechanics.

winter oar
strange thicket
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oh, first time to see that

winter oar
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lol, it's alright. If you are curious, you can go on blitz and press the ammo on a certain tank

glass relic
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APFSDS is a thing on Mk6

strange thicket
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no yeah i know
but i thought they called APDS and anything other than AP as APCR

winter oar
glass relic
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Yeah, basically just normal APCR

winter oar
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Mhm

strange thicket
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yeah but i think adding shell mechanics would be an interesting addition to this arcade game.

winter oar
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Wait, the M41 DK-1 is like the Leopard 1 and was upgraded during the 70 or 80's so i think the DK-1 would kinda technically be in Blitz or PC since it's like the Leopard 1 but different. Also, It would be very interesting if they did that but would probably take most of their time on making shells and stuff. (I really dont know but it would be interesting tbh about shells.)

storm robin
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You forget that Type 62 already has HEAT-FS

glass relic
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It'll take more resources and kinda makes other tanks that has the ability to boast special ammo like that will most likely make the game way broken than what we already seen in T7 MM

solid gate
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@glass relic Mk6 doesn’t have APFSDS it just has APDS

winter oar
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Imao, well that is true. but interesting

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I think the only tank that has the word APFSDS is Chieftain/T95

solid gate
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The ammo types aren’t complicated heat fs is just heat but fin stabilized APDS is bare bones really special AP

winter oar
strange thicket
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shell mechanics will not magically completely destroy the balance in my opinion.
that is if you balance them right for an arcade game.
having some variety is not too bad but it will demand extra effort to consider these additional variables when balancing the game.
@winter oar also you are correct it mentions the shell's name, i just checked my Leopard 1 and it says it has HEP but regards it as HE

solid gate
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Because hep is just HESH which no need to complicate it is high pen he

winter oar
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mhm

strange thicket
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never sad to complicate anything, i only mentioned shells behaving as intended or as classified.
i might just like WT's shell mechanics too much tbh.

solid gate
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Strange since warthunder butchers them half the time

strange thicket
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meh, it is a semi-cade
i also mentioned balancing them for the arcade style, not copy pasting them from RL.

winter oar
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Bruh my mind is just thinking about bulldogs

glass relic
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Get yourself real life bulldog. And you can stop thinking about it.

candid harbor
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become the bulldog

restive nova
winter oar
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Super M41 Bulldog 💯 ❤️

candid harbor
winter oar
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well my brother-in-law has a bulldog and it kinda old and quite adorable (French Bulldog)

candid harbor
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i bet it got blue default skin

glass relic
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Blue default skin? What.
Ah took me 2s to realize it.

candid harbor
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see, your post earlier made me too smort

topaz parcel
drifting vapor
sterile grove
candid harbor
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I love it, it has quick acceleration but top speed is only 40kmph, has nice very gun but reload is 15s and 6* depression, turret is nice but has weakspots and hull is tiny but ufp is somewhat weak

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@sterile grove

somber hawk
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Is smasher inspired by KV-2 design?

woven cradle
sterile grove
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@candid harbor that's mean this tank good right

trail pier
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am i the only one who wants the japanese heavies in blitz? pls say im not

solid gate
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You aren’t and sadly you won’t be the last they won’t be coming any time soon

trail pier
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😦

sterile grove
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I only wait for kanonen jagdpanzer appear in store

plucky summit
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Lmao same

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A big brother for my E25

sterile grove
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Lol

silent marlin
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Hey, are the French LT line good?

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Just wanna ask lol

distant nymph
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they have a size skill cap and can be incredibly unpleasant, but can be super good

glass relic
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Its pretty nice but challenging to use, especially for those who aren't familiar with paper tanks + auto loader playstyle.

The tanks on the line are pretty nice, these are my own experience and opinions on these bois

AMX 12t a good rock jump towards the further tiers playstyle.
13 75 a good demonstration of what french light supposed to be.
13 90 true Frenchie light tonk
BC-AP will probably just a demo towards the BC itself.
BC is just awesome if you can use it properly the tank has amazing Assassinator role in mid game but early game the tank is just kinda average.

silent marlin
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Ohh oki oki thanks hehe. I'm considering to grind it, but still trying to perfect my quicc gamestyle lol

fresh vine
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I'm currently grinding the french light tanks and I have to say the 13 75 and the 13 90 are a treat to play (when they have top guns and engines)

glass relic
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That's why i said 13 75 is a good demo because it lets you learn the way of it's playstyle without suffering on the long clip reload.

fresh vine
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im not sure if i like the 13 75 more than the 13 90

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13 90 has bigger magazine but the 13 75 has much better reload

spare cloud
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Whats the fck is Kranswissvagen

fresh vine
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?

spare cloud
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Somebody tell me that he saw domething like this

glass relic
fresh vine
glass relic
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Well most of us hope for it too.

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Somehow i find some people doesn't like the 13 75 and i don't understand why.

fast compass
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It is great. But i prefer t71

glass relic
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Ah yeah T71 the competitor iirc it's superior in the way of burst clipping

fast compass
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T71 is superior in just about every aspect. You can argue about the armour profile but both are very tiny

glass relic
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Well they're light tank anyway bringing up armor is just irrelevant when both you.. know.. what is a processed wood called.

fast compass
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The number of times my ufp has trolled tanks in the amx line is ridiculous. But doesn't happen too often so yeah

glass relic
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Can't really say how both tanks compared to each other since I haven't tried T71 yet.

Ah yeah the ufp completely stupid sometimes it just auto bounce.

fast compass
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Iirc t71 has better pen, it also has a faster burst with a more accurate gun and better acceleration. The main things you look for in a clipping light

glass relic
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I had an eye on that thing after my prog got out clipped yeah don't ask why, but i was caught in a crossfire.

gentle wasp
fast compass
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Doesn't mean i didn't have my fair share of fun in the 13 75

glass relic
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Huh the stats looks pretty neat, might got some fun again by going back to become an LT Main.

gentle wasp
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the 1.5s interclip is quite obnoxious, I get clipped by those stupid buggers all the time. mostly because I don't play attention, but partly because it can dump the clip that quickly.

glass relic
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1.5 is what you can dream on an LT clippers, I'd wet myself if high tier clippers has it.

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That's probably the only thing I enjoy when playing Chi-Ri a really quick interclip

gentle wasp
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I usually don't enjoy clippers but yea the Chi Ri was fun. Although it should be noted that this took place pre-Smasher. take that as you will.

glass relic
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Me, post anni chi-ri player: 👀

gentle wasp
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ouch

fresh vine
fresh vine
glass relic
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In my case after i played the T-54 ltwt
I've become an LT Main, then i wanted to learn Other tanks Playstyle so i knew what I can expect when I'm facing my enemy team line up.

plain wagon
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I’ve got 44k free exp and a completely stock standard B any advice on what to unlock?

rugged meadow
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how a^many shells are in a clip of the T7 Car?

gentle wasp
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nvm blitzhangar puts it weirdly. 9 shots, 3 shell burst. so 27.

rugged meadow
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thx

plain wagon
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Is the stock gun on standard b bad to use?

solid gate
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All stock guns on tier 9s are

plain wagon
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Not true the stock gun on t92 is actually really good

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Also the stock gun on waffle is pretty good to

tepid geyser
novel frigate
fresh vine
spare cloud
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@novel frigate he said Kranswissvagn idk

brazen tangle
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if you mean its previous tiers then its probably the emil2

latent meteor
brazen tangle
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btw the mt25 is actually so good on realistic since its hard to get detected. just zoomin around 70kph and dumping out damage. im getting crazy games everytime

static harness
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Man
Foch155 is still a random battle monster
I love that thing so much

elder remnant
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Is the O-47 mecha Phoenix worth buying?

novel frigate
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Naw, the Type 62 I think it is, for 3k gold in the shop is tho

elder remnant
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So the 0-47 isn’t a good hybrid nation tank for battles.I felt it had quality in it but I feel that’s figuring out if it’s worth the time.I like the design but i don’t go for 200 damage tanks since my base line tank choice senders around doing as much damage with a single round as capable

solid gate
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guys i really enjoy playing the leopard. t5 leo. What are some other tanks similar to it ?

tulip sundial
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Which

solid gate
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just wondering on which tanks I should grind, pref fast meds or lights with good autoloader guns

lyric oriole
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Well your only good auto loading meds or lights are pretty limited, I guess I would say the French lights

tulip sundial
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There’s really no other tank like it

lyric oriole
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^^

solid gate
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thats sad I love it 😦

lyric oriole
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Beyond tier 6 there is nothing that does burst fire (tech tree I mean)

tulip sundial
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The only other ones are lower tier, the the Pz 2’s and the Luchs

lyric oriole
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MT-25 if you aren't picky about nation

radiant coral
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And already took a look at it Mayo (about the tank i mean) ? 👀😁

solid gate
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complete noob so sorry but what nation is mt25 lol

lyric copper
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Russian

tulip sundial
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Russian tier 6

lyric oriole
solid gate
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ooo what about the S P IC. Tech tree gun has the autoloader symbol

radiant coral
lyric oriole
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No I mean nothing really interests me

radiant coral
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Ah, ups, ummm I apologize then and ehh sorry.

lyric copper
pulsar cloak
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So what do y'all think of the ox?

lyric oriole
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I think it's a Type 58

pulsar cloak
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Yeah but what is the overall opinion about it?

gentle wasp
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Looks great, made me consider buying the pass

pulsar cloak
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I think it is an ok light armored med

latent meteor
gentle wasp
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:)

solid gate
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I’m still immensely disappointed by how much of a rip off the m41 d is

pulsar cloak
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German bd is best

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T28 pro is a hulking monster until a kv4 sees it

lyric oriole
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T28 proto bad

solid gate
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200 more horsepower yet less overall effective P/W ratio from the base bulldog and only 70kmh where did the hp even go???

gentle wasp
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Realism

pulsar cloak
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I have 1v1 a muaschen from full and won

lyric oriole
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Then that Mauschen was an interesting player to say the least

pulsar cloak
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T28 pro is a hardy tank

solid gate
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It’s pretty bad

gentle wasp
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I think you mean hardly, as in hardly usable

lyric oriole
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I'll take normal T28 over it any day

latent meteor
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I played both, and it's not even close - prot is better.
But still not great. Terrible armor and speed.

pulsar cloak
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When hull down i have bounced jpanzers and other heavy gunned tds like isu's

gentle wasp
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Again, that proves nothing. Facing idiots anything can bounce. The turret is still a huge liability to anyone with a clue.

inland salmon
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Now, I have E75 but I dont really enjoy playing it, what tanks you think is fun to play?

lyric oriole
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You gain a turret at the cost of some really essential stats and special consumables

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Camo

lyric copper
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E75 kappa @inland salmon

lyric oriole
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Mobility

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DPM

solid gate
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Tier 7s can penetrate the cheeks like gold such as T71

gentle wasp
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Profile and armor

inland salmon
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I mean, e75 is indeed a good tank but I'm looking for mobility

pulsar cloak
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I guess i just have mine set up right

lyric oriole
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Accuracy

inland salmon
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just suggest a tank damn

solid gate
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look for something yourself why take suggestions when best way to find out is just looking it up

gentle wasp
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There is a conversation going on right now if you didn’t notice. Not everything is about you, you’ll get better results if you realize that.

inland salmon
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The server has 93k members, there is always a conversation going on

lyric oriole
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@inland salmon if you want mobility play a light tank

gentle wasp
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Then don’t expect an answer ASAP. You didn’t really even ask a question either.

neat nimbus
hearty flare
lyric copper
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@hearty flare buy the T-2020 if you want shell ejection

solid gate
lyric oriole
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No actually that's backwards

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It's better to do multiple lines

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It keeps gameplay diverse

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And doesn't get stale for a player

solid gate
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Funny enough the scorpion still has a 90mm rifled gun 500 years in the future

lyric copper
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honestly I just like focusing one tank line at a time

solid gate
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Eh, guess that's a preference then, I rather focus all on one line.

hearty flare
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I mean I'd see the Grizzly variant being added

neat nimbus
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i better rush vickers light line

solid gate
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Grizzly is just a meme

calm drumBOT
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dynoSuccess John-117#1331 has been warned.

neat nimbus
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i better save exp for the line

lyric oriole
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Excessive or not rules are rules

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You cuss, you get warned

hearty flare
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Yea well then get in a game in realistic

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Your filthers are inexistant in the chat box, and they curse like a drunk guy on a bad trip

lyric oriole
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I'm a discord mod, not a game programmer

hearty flare
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sterile grove
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Meh, i don't really like realistic battle, cause my eyes to bad to see smoll target, with no HP or light bulp ngl

hearty flare
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You would not belive how toxic the players in any mode are

lyric oriole
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Realistic is hardly realistic, once auto aim is gone and consumables are single use like back when the game started I'll play it

hearty flare
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I'd prefer 5vs5 realistic with your settings

sterile grove
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If I play in PC is a not problem for me but I play in my little smartphone

hearty flare
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Anyways I would see a tank from Halo being added since there was hype for halo infinite

plucky summit
plain wagon
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Are the battle pass tanks worth keeping or should I just sell them?

kind falcon
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If you like tier 6 or you want to collect every tank then you should keep them but otherwise they are pretty pointless.

somber osprey
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A few things I want, nerf the E25's speed, the gravedigger gun and armor, and the annihilator with the same as the gravedigger. It's such a pain to be in a tiger and have a e25 ram-pin you and destroy you, and the other two are way too overpowered

plucky summit
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@somber osprey Gravedigger and E25 are extremely dependent on the situation

somber osprey
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Agreed. But if they're on the enemy team? With a team of non-pay to win takers by your side? Not exactly fun to me. Personally

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Because you get absolutely. Destroyed. Because the e25 is too low for a tiger 1 gun, and you can't outrun the thing either

plucky summit
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Gravedigger and E25 are definitely not OP

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An E25 requires its enemies to not target it when it hugs one of them, if you sit near your teammates, then they probably won't pin you down

A gravedigger lacks a LOT against tier 8 heavies, the pen lets it down with the accuracy forcing it to time out shots. Only way you've had a bad time is if it catches you turned

solid gate
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How do you die to an e25 in a tiger

somber osprey
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Because they pin against your side and you can't get the gun low enough to hit it

plucky summit
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Yes, that's for teammates to solve, and for you to prevent

somber osprey
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Hard when the stupid thing moves fast as heck, can't outrun or outturn it in a tiger

plucky summit
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Stick with your team

somber osprey
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At least with my skill anyway, I'm not a grindy player, and I do stick with them

solid gate
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Never solo an e25

plucky summit
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Soloing an E25 is like soloing a BP but you can't pen em

solid gate
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Nah it’s like soloing a bp but your willingly standing still infront of the bp

somber osprey
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I don't mind the BP but the e25 is a pain

plucky summit
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It shouldn't be a big problem, best an E25 has is either a campy sniping point that's far enough away, or it's close enough and you happened to just be alone

tulip edge
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The gravedigger is only good at bullying tier 6s.
If you go into a game that has an E25 you just need to be aware of whether your tank is short enough and or has the gun depression to shoot an E25 that is in your face.
If your tank isn’t able to do that, you need to be smart about positioning. As said above, stay near a teammate(s), or what I sometimes do is be near terrain that allows you to depress your gun onto the E25. Though I appreciate that isn’t always possible to have

maiden bay
#

I had the fv183 yesterday but i cant seem to do any damage with it ... can someone explain to me how to play it please

lyric oriole
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Run Calibrated on it

FV215b 183 is a second line tank, it has enough accuracy to not have to be point blank, it doesn't have enough camo to snipe (but it can with maxed camo Crew skill and camo net).

You should/can support your medium tanks and use your alpha alone as a fear factor to help your allied meds push up against the opponents. If you are playing a second line role be wary of going to areas where you can get hit from enemy tank destroyers.

You may also second line with your allied heavies. It's much easier then with the mediums, the idea here is to eliminate health from the ones that are piñatas, effectively the ones that will try to absorb damage for their team. Kill the confidence of a heavy and the team starts to grind to a halt you should be using AP mostly on the heavies, the HESH even with calibrated shells is too inconsistent on heavies. AP is still a solid 930 alpha so don't get greedy.

(This is only if you have the maxed camo Crew skill, camo net, and camo paint): If playing long range, you should be focusing on key targets: Other snipers, scouts, line breakers Line breakers are heaviums or other well armored tanks that can push and take a beating without repercussions such as AMX 50 B, or E 50 M (yes I know 50M can potentially get ruined but it's still in the category)

You should be running Supercharged shells at this range because the velocity is fairly low and sudden movements by the enemy will throw off your shots. HESH at this range is a bit risky so stick to AP primarily just like against the heavy tanks in a second line setting. Save the HESH as a hail mary or self defense.

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It's nice to have a copy and paste

maiden bay
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Wow... Thank you

plucky summit
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My go to copypasta is not actually text, it's the battle results where I won with 4 0s on my team, used to shut the MM crybabies up

foggy sapphire
#

just got my second tier 10!!! T62A!!!

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the grind was rough but worth it!

lyric oriole
#

Nice

somber osprey
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I only play up to tier 7, i just don't have any tanks apart from the maus that I want that are 8+, that and I'm not exactly the best, that's why I collect tanks mainly

echo knot
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Is IS-5 worth?

hearty flare
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Yes it has t10 pramo pen, gotta know how to angle the pike nose tho

tulip edge
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The price for it makes it worth, but you shouldn’t bother with it if you already have other tier 8 premiums for your credits, or if you have other IS clone prems.

Also, you shouldn’t angle a pike nose, it will just weaken one of the plates

hearty flare
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You angle it on corners... doesn't take a 200 IQ to understand that it's a bad idea showing a flat armor plate at an enemy...

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Plus the pike nose angle at tier 8 is exclusive to the is5 has part of gameplay (the is3 has bad frontal armor so it's better to reverse sidescrape)

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And the 252 is the hulldown king

plucky summit
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T-2020 also has the pike nose action tho

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Both boast the same effectiveness, at 226mm for IS-5 and 227mm for T-2020 at the least angled part of their pikes against AP shells

hearty flare
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The is6 is just a hill holder too

glass relic
#

Aren't the title of hulldown king goes towards the 112-2 & IS-3

severe niche
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The 122TM needs to come out for a fair and decent price, due to its horrific DPM, and it should come out with its “Niu” legendary skin (which looks badass af)
@glass relic nah the Emil-I, T54E2, T34, T30, Kranvagn, T62A, T22Med, etc etc.

floral rain
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122 TM isn't even in blitz

glass relic
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Ah my bad I don't mean to referr the title to other tanks.

severe niche
glass relic
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But instead the title of IS's clones n Variants at it's tier.

floral rain
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isn't it just a t-34-3 clone

severe niche
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@glass relic the 112-2 & IS3 are meh at holding hills, the gun depression is what kills them.
@floral rain and no it’s anything but t-34-3 clone, it holds a 300+mm pen, a 400+ alpha damage, a very bad DPM, but nonetheless it has very solid armor for a T8 Medium

floral rain
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yeah... that sounds like a T-34-3 clone
apart from 300mm pen because that's tier 9 pramo levels of pen

glass relic
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We already know they can't hold hills but instead they have the power of being almost invulnerable at flat ground hulldown, is just amazing.

Or basically Chimera Competitor

severe niche
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Yee they are brawlers, not so much on ridge/hill holding, but the power crept IS3 is no longer sought after as much as it used to be

floral rain
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so the current 400 alpha meds right now are:
STG
T-34-3
Chimera
and the chimera wipes the floor with both of those tanks so i'm not sure how the 122 tm is going to function apart from being another 400 alpha medium tank

glass relic
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The gun still makes IS-3 relevant to some players but i don't have the rights to brag nor say anything yet because I don't have the tank itself to say how it performs.

severe niche
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@floral rain the flat turret makes it too vulnerable to HEAT/ APCR/ HEP warheads, the 122TM has a bulb head with little to no weak spots on its turret.
@glass relic you’ll be disappointed, it’s not the big IS3!! That we all know and love, it’s just a mediocre Tier VIII Soviet Heavy Tank. Which is kinda sad.

glass relic
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Dunno yet but sooner or later i surely will get the IS-3 if i had finish TVP line at 7.7

severe niche
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Chime carries a 203mm flat turret, at 10 degrees it holds a 205mm effectiveness. The 122TM (on PC) carries a 280-250-210-190-170-120mm turret, at 8 degrees it is effective at 317-403-364-718-868mm

severe niche
neat nimbus
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i wish wg added a german exclusive attachment so i can put on lowe or e75 ts

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severe niche
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I wish they would add the same HUGE unnecessary edgy attachments from PC into Blitz

hearty wren
hearty wren
severe niche
#

...yes

hearty wren
severe niche
hearty wren
neat nimbus
hearty wren
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I may get event tank if its a hellcat

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because hellcat is religion, and it saved my relatives light tank platoon when some panthers said hi

elfin basin
#

do you run cali shells in lttb or gun rammer

fresh vine
fresh vine
pulsar cloak
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Churchy 6 is broken

wooden crater
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not really
its kinda bad

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all it has is dpm and accuracy

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meds should be able to prammo through the front easily

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although i suppose the armor is good if you don't know how to load gold

pulsar cloak
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2.6k damage was highest and i never dropped below 2k damage and i 1v5ed and survived

ashen pendant
#

Is vickers light worth going for? Still skeptical about getting it.

solid gate
#

It’s a good tank for both fun and stat padding

fresh vine
solid gate
#

Best tank for stat padding is arguably the WT auf Panzer IV. It's got a decently high skill cap, but it's not difficult to play. The tank is honestly borderline OP, and it's tier 9 so your average tier on your account won't drop.

pulsar cloak
#

I have a question

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Why does a heavy push work with a kv2 but not a thunder?

plucky summit
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Because a KV-2 has the potential to take out a damaged heavy really quickly, it is more feared than the Thunder due to the meme

pulsar cloak
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Only bad thing about churchies they kinda short enough to have a kv2 when face hugging hit the back top deck

floral rain
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Anything with more than 3000 dpm has more than the 50b

wooden crater
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assuming rammer/vents, wz113, fv215b, chief mk6, t57

storm robin
#

Do y’all have any advice for the Chi-To? Just managed to unlock it recently, m still on 75% crew and everything’s stock except for the gun with I free XP’d

floral rain
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Second line support and annoy people as much as possible

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I went gun > engine > turret > tracks but if 6 degrees of gun depression is hard to work with turret first might work out

steel creek
#

Sheridan missile has gotten hammered by wotb team .

dawn hill
#

Tiger on is a bit slow maybe make it a little more faster

somber hawk
#

IS-6 hull looks like Dracula hull is it just me or its inspired by IS-6 hull?

agile prawn
#

I think it's just you

dawn hill
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Idk but it kind of does

agile prawn
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Lemme check

solid gate
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It’s literally a redesign of the amx cdc....

nocturne tiger
#

i don't think it looks anything like the is 6 hull

dawn hill
#

I just looked again nope it doesn't

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I think the tiger 1 need a little more speed it is so slow

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I have my tiger 1 fully upgraded

nocturne tiger
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No, it's actually quite fast, it literally has both armour and speed

dawn hill
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But when battling tier 7s now it's just paper

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I been losing because it's paper now

solid gate
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It’s literally almost impenetrable frontally from 190 mm 90 AP rounds

nocturne tiger
#

it's not paper, it's a literal beast for tier 6 and 7 to face.

Just sidescrape or wiggle your tank

dawn hill
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How come I'm always penned in the front with my tiger one then

agile prawn
dawn hill
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Everyone I play against says it's paper to them

nocturne tiger
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maybe you're playing it wrong, because it's really good

agile prawn
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If you use it correctly you can bounce t8

dawn hill
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I think it's because my teams suck and it not helping me

nocturne tiger
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you just went from "front always penned" to "teammate sucks"

Just sidescrape or wiggle your tank to make the armour more effective mate

agile prawn
dawn hill
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Yea but my team cowards in a corner why I get beat up

nocturne tiger
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If you play it right and carefully, you can carry the team tbh

agile prawn
#

Yeah

dawn hill
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It's probably just me

agile prawn
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I want a realistic legendary camo on the Tiger 1, not a big fan of the gamescon one

candid harbor
nocturne tiger
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Soviets had them

dawn hill
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I want tiger 1 to have paint named the white tiger

nocturne tiger
dawn hill
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There was a tiger 1 famous known as the white tiger

floral rain
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No there wasn't, that's a movie

nocturne tiger
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that was a fictional tank bro, that only existed in a movie

dawn hill
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No

candid harbor
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weird looking tiger p
with op autoloader

dawn hill
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I seen the movie too

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Also the movie was made in 1960s I think

candid harbor
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woah, really?

nocturne tiger
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Nope, 2012.

candid harbor
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that gun sound is so crazy, i love it

dawn hill
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I seen a white tiger movie from the 1900s I thought before

floral rain
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Still never understood the ending of it

nocturne tiger
candid harbor
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lol
F
js 2

floral rain
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That looks like an is turret on a rounded tiger hull

winter oar
#

wait, Boneitis2?

dawn hill
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Different movie then what my white tiger movie looked like

nocturne tiger
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it is just the IS 2

nocturne tiger
dawn hill
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Mines is based in Russia when Germany is getting pushed out of russia

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And it's in the woods and swamp and a village until Germany surrenders

candid harbor
#

plot armor is so thic on that t 34 85

nocturne tiger
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white tiger op dpm 😩

dawn hill
#

I understand the ending of white tiger the tank driver was the tank god all along

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The dude became a god when he was 90% burned

verbal totem
#

Charioteer is still worth it guys still fun to play!

plucky rain
plucky rain
solid gate
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Different tiers don’t count

tulip edge
#

Yes

glass relic
#

Pretty average for a heavy. You won't be late to the battle nor too early.

solid gate
#

WhiteTiger?

nocturne tiger
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yes

delicate oasis
#

giving t57 the better engine boost would be great, just only the engine boost, which will make the tank more flexible, the kravagn has engine boost, so does the the t110e5 and t110e3, im not asking for reactive armor, only engine boost for t57

terse oar
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it doesnt need a speed buff, an he alpha buff on kpz70 would be nice

azure tree
#

Not a lot of games but a 14 win streak isn't bad! I quite love the Ox, really mobile with a great gun.

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storm robin
#

If you love the Ox, you’d love the Type 58 - it’s the Ox but better

distant nymph
#

wait, type 58 is a worse T-34/85. And Ox is worse than that?

azure tree
#

I was abt to say lmao

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Ox has more DPM, Shell Velocity and Dispersion. Type 58 is a little more mobile and has 2 more degrees of depression and barely better aim time. It's a toss up on which is better based on how you play.

maiden bay
#

@solid gate the sheridan is just a giant spaced armor, it is immune to he, hesh and heat and you have a little chance to touch only the spaced armor

lethal kindle
#

Type 58 is a more HP t34 85 with less pen

thick trout
hollow notch
#

Don't mind the red aluminum hull.

thick trout
#

Pay to win nab supporting armour inspector 🤮

severe niche
#

Oof

urban radish
hollow notch
#

._.

hearty flare
#

Will the swedish TD's ever be a thing?

nocturne tiger
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Probably not

fast compass
#

They said that they won't be adding Swedish tds

hearty flare
#

Then how about adding tanks from the halo franchise? i'd see that kind of vehicule in there

fast compass
#

Hmmm yes a m808b scorpion

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Armoured assault tank from star wars would be interesting

severe niche
hearty wren
#

i wont be surprised if next month's event tank is a cromwell painted green with a pot of gold on its turret

static harness
#

Don't give them ideas

hearty flare
#

The cromwell (P) .-.

solid gate
#

hi

severe niche
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Howdy 🦐

solid gate
#

I found some really interesting info to share with you guys which could lead to some interesting rebalances if we report them to Wargaming.

  1. Smasher ( tier 7 collector ) - AP shell has no penetration loss over distance ( on blitzhangar ) and if it is true , then its AP shell should get penetration loss over distance. As a result, all 3 shells on Smasher lose no penetration over distance which makes it quite reliable at shooting tanks at a distance.

  2. Sheridan , Sheridan Missile and T92e1 - These tanks have a 152mm gun but it has the highest burst radius ( 5.3 meters ) which makes its HE shell very OP ( as it does a lot of crew/module damage as well as huge splash damage). Fv 183 only has 5.05m burst radius and JgPzE100 has 4.45 . All 152mm guns average at 3.6 m burst radius.

  3. WZ 111-5A - Its HEAT shell has 13.79% penetration loss ( on blitzhangar ), meanwhile HEAT should have 0 penetration loss.

severe niche
solid gate
severe niche
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@solid gate yeah Blitz-Post has already covered that, even quoting that we must call it out enough so WG will fix it

solid gate
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they are banned from this discord

severe niche
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Yes I’ve read the post

solid gate
neat nimbus
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low poly plane

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i didnt know about this, i guess if i get for free this one i know what camo put to it

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signal wedge
#

I have t-54 and enjoy it. I recently bought obj. 140, but find I'm struggling to do well in it... Any advice?

ashen pendant
#

What's the better gun on the t-54?

hard nexus
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personal preference

grand bramble
#

Tank has the slowest reload time in the games

dusky osprey
#

what's the cheapest u think they'd sell t54 shark for? 10k gold perhaps?

glass relic
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Prob is 10k just for the tank and 12,5k for camo + equipment for it's 3rd time on sale.

dusky osprey
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Fair enough

willow plinth
#

What would happen if wg remodeled T28?

solid gate
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1 percent increase in win rate

hard nexus
#

thats optimistic

hollow moth
winter oar
plucky summit
#

It's an LTG

novel frigate
#

Emil II good or bad, also tips on it?

brittle atlas
#

Tips on proggeto 46, i decided to dust it off and forgot how to play it

slim topaz
# novel frigate Emil II good or bad, also tips on it?

It's autoreloader is good, it can make you way more prepared to use kranvagn when you have bought it but Your turret armor won't help you really much against tier 9 TD's and HT's (cuz their gun is a beast) , you really need to find the best hulldown position or expect to be penned in the turret by TD or HT

Also, your rear is HE-able like american tanks, don't ever let any tanks that have crazy HE damage to get behind you

novel frigate
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👍

ruby lintel
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Emil 2, imo, should get a slightly stronger turret. Let me explain.

The emil 2 relies on its turret, obviously, since it's dpm and mobility are trash. But currently, t9 heavies can use prammo cough cough st1 cough cough m103 to go through it when it's hull down and sometimes even standard ammo (with cali) through the turret on flat ground. Buffing the turret from its current 175 to 185 - 190 wouldn't hurt mm at all.

Tier 8s already can't pen it even on flat ground, so that won't change any t8 battles since they need to fight it the same way they do now.

This will make tier 9 matches better for the emil 2 since t9 heavies will have to try harder to pen the emil 2, since they can't pen the 1 thing this tank relies on, which is its turret, which is in line with the kran since its turret can't be penned on flat ground by other heavies at its tier.

In the end, tier 8 mm won't get affected since the turret wasn't a weakspot to begin with (unless your a td with prammo looking at it from a weird angle) and t9 will have to do better to pen it.

I would like to see what others think about this idea.

tulip sundial
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It does need it

glass relic
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Bring back it's pre nerf state and I'm gud.

ruby lintel
glass relic
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Turret armor tbh is fine since it's supposed to only work whenever you're hulldown and become obi wan Kenobi.

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That's just my thoughts so 🙄

delicate oasis
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give t57 better engine boost and leopard more alpha dmg

glass relic
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Leopard with more alpha damage? That's WZ-121 for you.

tender knoll
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give them wings

plucky summit
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FV4005 clips.

floral rain
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PC batchat clips

candid harbor
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Dear_HRS's feeble slaps

delicate oasis
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@wooden crater remember kranvagn? the new tvp tanks with 4 shells in an auto loader? "Imagine 2 fv21b183 in a plat one shotting a poor poor medium tank", if you twist sentences like that, than anything sounds op

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give t57 better engine boost and leopard more alpha dmg

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i will copy paste as much as i want

plucky summit
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Alright, I'll present an argument @delicate oasis

For T57, it serves as a more solid, and very effective AMX 50 B, special in its class and overall a nice tank. Leopard 1 has a very fast reload for its already good alpha. If they were gonna buff its alpha damage, then they'd have to nerf the reload, because the DPM is best in the class.

delicate oasis
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"very effective amx50b" does not mean anything. is t57 a very effective Kranvagn? If u ever played clan tournaments, nobody uses the t57, amx50b is better as it has more mobility, the kranvagn has both with better armor (turret that can bounce almost anything). (everyone spams kranvagn in tourneys) The leopard has the best dpm, but in most situations, players won't just sit there sideways and let u put shell after shell in the tank, if dpm is everything the is4 and t110e5, Maus, should be considered bad tanks, but they are obviously not. For every shell u fire in a leopard, lets say at a t22 medium, u have chance of bouncing, throwing ur dpm out the window, the t22 on the other hand will not only pen everyshot, but will highroll, because, leopard has no armor. The leopard's dpm can still remain the same with higher alpha, just increase the reload time.

plucky summit
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highrolls don't happen because of weak armor ._.

delicate oasis
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it does

agile prawn
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No it doesn't

delicate oasis
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have u ever fired heat at a angles maus cheecks before and watch it do 300 to 280 dmg, or lowrolled with a t110e5?

plucky summit
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We call that HEAT

agile prawn
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No I don't have the e5

solid gate
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give leopard higher alpha
increase the reload
You do know that destroys the leopards purpose right

agile prawn
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You make no sense

delicate oasis
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lol

plucky summit
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armor does not affect damage if it penetrates

delicate oasis
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even if it does not, my point remains the same, and i make plenty of sense, and yes we all know giving leopard a higher reload, will definitely ruin the tank lol

plucky summit
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Also just because they don't spam 57 heavy in tourneys doesn't make the tank bad

delicate oasis
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are u sure about that? lol

plucky summit
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If you can use a 1200 alpha clip, yeah

delicate oasis
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lets see tournament team that spam leopard and fv215183 in tourneys. also sheridans

solid gate
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Just about anything can tear into a leopard in 1v1 or med brawls the current alpha it has and the reload with it is what keeps it alive etc a vickers can pummel it in seconds with HESH but if it splashes or misses it’s already 300-400 damage behind not even accounting that Vick is 1 second behind on reload against russian mediums such as t62 and 140 it’s an even more intense match both can reach a reload speed of 4.2 and drain anything alarmingly fast paired with the fact their highly angular and accurate any missed shot is dangerous their downside is that they need to over extend their hull in order to fight exposing the drive wheel because leopards reload is fast enough to permatrack is what keeps it alive against the two

plucky summit
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I've been in a tourney spamming Leos and BatChats, and we clapped a pro team with em

Ofc that was a while ago but still

delicate oasis
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im not saying the t57 tank is bad, it is decent, what im saying is the other autoloaders, especially the kranvagn have rly outshine the t57, not much point to use the t57 anymore. Its like the is7, why bother using it when u can just use an is4

plucky summit
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I think it's because Kran doesn't have 3k DPM ._.

delicate oasis
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engine boost, good amor, sandbags

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the kranvagn has all that, the t57 on the other hand........it only has 2 second inter clip reload...which is what makes the tank special, but it just feels too slow

plucky summit
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Let us turn 57 Heavy into another 50 B then ig

delicate oasis
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oh yeah, before i forget, the kranvagn is also an autoreloader lol

solid gate
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As much as the is7 is hated for its reputation it’s still a solid choice and is often better at spear head charges than even the is4 that’s because the kranvagn and t57 aren’t the same exact role of tank the kran can hold down lines and hills better but can’t sustain a good amount of damage T57 has the fastest damage output of an autoloader and is one of the more accurate 120mms aswell and fastest reload what keeps the E5 balanced from its op traits is that the sides and modules are weak along with it needing to sacrifice some consumables and provisions to run more health or super boost

delicate oasis
plucky summit
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I'm cutting the fact 57 has more armor :p

delicate oasis
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ok. but i don't think it will be a bad thing if t57 also gets some love

plucky summit
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Well, I'd focus on chopping a bit off the E3 or the 62 A a bit

candid harbor
plucky summit
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That said, IS-7 is a pretty nice pub tank :p

lyric copper
candid harbor
plucky summit
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Idk, poor 140, all it has is that AP normalization and a bit better hull which nobody would care for in a medium

solid gate
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Bad take but I feel 140 deserves after all it’s a higher ceiling from some well known claims

delicate oasis
plucky summit
candid harbor
plucky summit
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And troll armor :p

candid harbor
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i wouldn't call t57 armor troll... but ok
mainly because it doesn't rely on autoricochet angles or spaced armor which player base struggles with

plucky summit
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Must be my RNG trying to slam the gun bulge or the crease between the lips

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But then agaist my bad RNG led me to win a 2v6 :D

Granted it's two S35 CA's but still

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The best tech tree tier 5 TD by 90d winrate

delicate oasis
candid harbor
solid gate
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Because kranvagn has lack luster speed awful dpm and an average gun for its role

delicate oasis
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autoreloader and amor to compensate for that, but nope, it gets consumables too

plucky summit
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Ah yes, Emil II, but I don't see that being mega special ;)

candid harbor
delicate oasis
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also bye, i guess the t57 will remain in limbo for now

plucky summit
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Yup, it will

solid gate
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Also it’s armor is pretty awful for its hull even the turret will get splashed

lyric copper
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man’s just quit the argument because he couldn’t win oof

delicate oasis
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i don't care who wins, i just want engine boost for t57😭

plucky summit
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T57 isn't in as bad of a state as like. Foch, I guess

No no scratch that, the tier 10 chinese boi

candid harbor
delicate oasis
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poor foch may u rest in peace

lyric copper
plucky summit
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They made the stock gun a stock gun

candid harbor
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I will like if devs could bring some other consumables instead of giving out better speed boost consumables to anything, accuracy consumable is pretty good (I like it) but speed consumable is over the top on some tanks that it has been given out to example: t11oe5 and annihilator

urban trail
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there used to be a repair kit consumable for the 215b, i think the concept is actually quite interesting, its just a bummer that it was removed

plucky rain
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Reticle calibration for 183

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I'm evilised now
Wait no, blitz graphics is evilised

fluid parrot
open solstice
#

Gg

rugged meadow
#

what should I get on the BDR G1 B first?

lyric copper
rugged meadow
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which one? the turret or the engine? or even the tracks first?

lyric copper
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gun duh

rugged meadow
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ok, thx

willow plinth
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Just to revive this chat here ,Guess the tank

Tip:Used to be a m3

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ruby lintel
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Idk honestly

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It looks smol

solid gate
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It’s the X1 series of upgrades

willow plinth
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Correct

bright sentinel
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Valentine AT is like a AT-15 at tier 3

silver mortar
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I think it's a brasilian upgraded m3 coz they had tons of them

foggy sapphire
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i wanna grind for my first tier 10 heavy, should i go for Maus or E100

bright sentinel
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Maus @foggy sapphire
Its an easier playstyle that doesn't beat you to death every loss match

dusky osprey
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Heyo what can yall tell me about this lozas Sherman we're building in March? That a Gup tonk?

tepid geyser
dusky osprey
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Ah, k thx
Noticed(according 2 bs) it has 175% cred-co so thought perhaps worth grinding

tepid geyser
lyric flume
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How do i play the t25 at

pallid wagon
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yes

granite crow
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Is the stock gun the best choice for the IS 1?

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I've been getting way better games with it equipped compared to the bigger guns

solid gate
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Any tips for Emil I? I just got it

gentle wasp
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hulldown and bully meds. use super speed to flank and clip out heavies, in other scenarios play more cautious because most heavies and tds can pen you.

solid gate
distant nymph
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oh and yes, hi again secret, I don't know how many mutual servers we got xD

solid gate
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who knows then price of the is7 battle hardened skin?

granite crow
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Dom I swear you gave me the link to the server. I just prefer the quicker firing and more reliable 100 mil

dusty copper
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I’m at T25/2 do I go for T28 or T28 Prot

lyric oriole
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I'm gonna say T28 for a lot of reasons

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T28 proto gets a turret at the cost of effectively every stat

dusty copper
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alright

lyric oriole
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T28 has special consumables

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E3 is also the better tier 10

lyric copper
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@granite crow both are dictionary definitions of the word p a i n

@lyric oriole which isn’t even fully rotatable lol

dusty copper
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What website do you use to compare tank stats side by side

lyric oriole
granite crow
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Yea the 100 mil isn't the best gun I've ever used but it is slightly more reliable and can troll people with the reload

solid gate
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Best gun for at15?

gentle wasp
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20pdr Type B

regal void
bright sentinel
regal void
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how much?

bright sentinel
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$6

regal void
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it should be free

silver mortar
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Bob semple OP, change my mind

tulip sail
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Its armour is barely rifle proof and ha a medium-low velocity gun and is an improvised armoured tractor there are much better designs that are similar

solid gate
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(And jokes that aren’t dead or unfunny

brazen tangle
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Should i just free xp lttb modules? Or at least engine, stock feels sluggish on some maps

brittle atlas
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how do i kpz 90mm

inland leaf
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Try to use terrain to your 6 deg gun depth to your advantage and always try to show only your turret armour

brittle atlas
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i meant the kpz m41 90mm, not the heavy
my b

inland leaf
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Oh shit

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I recomend just boom and zoom or in this case hit and run for your life

tepid geyser
inland leaf
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U mean the gold round? Cuz no way the HE can pen that much

brittle atlas
brittle atlas
tepid geyser
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Np

brittle atlas
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wow you can pen the tigers side with hep

floral rain
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you can pen pretty much any sides with he

brittle atlas
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i carry 15 he, is that enough or do i need more

sweet pulsar
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bruh i rolled for 281 in my kranvagn thanks rng 😒 (standard rounds)

floral rain
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that's literally impossible, the lowest you can roll on a 400 alpha gun is 300

sweet pulsar
gentle wasp
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reactive

floral rain
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reactive armor

tepid geyser
sweet pulsar
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ah i'm blind lmao, why did i forget that 😕

floral rain
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no worries, half of my games involve me being stupid

sour hinge
#

Sell Badger for VK 72. 01 K, is it worth it

ruby lintel
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Uh, no

glass relic
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Absolutely no, why would you sell a collector tank for a tech tree tank?

nocturne tiger
#

I currently have enough money to buy me a tier 10.

I researched the Grille 15 and the E100, which do I buy first?

glass relic
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E100 better and way easier to play than grille in the current meta

nocturne tiger
#

Thanks, I nearly thought of purchasing the grille 15 but I've heard so much problems about it, especially about the camo

glass relic
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You better off playing the waffle, it's way better to play than grille n more flexible cause of it can snap it's head around 360, and you're a T9 which can meet T8 occasionally n bully them.

nocturne tiger
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Yeah I know, the waffle is really fun to play

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Anyway, are there any tips for the E-100 stock?

floral rain
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Don't play it stock
Seriously, use free xp or realistic mode right now and grind the top gun if you want to be competitive

ruby lintel
nocturne tiger
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I don't have free exp and realistic mode is gone until Thursday 😭

solid gate
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E100 stock is literally a worse maus.

ruby lintel
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Should emil 2 get its turret buffed, yes or no?

maiden bay
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I think the grille mobility has need to be upgrade (his base rotate speed to 38 and his speed to 60 like the PC version)

solid gate
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T95E2 deserves a buff right?

ruby lintel
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Yes

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There are many tier 8 tanks that deserve buffs tho

floral matrix
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They should make the lvl 1 tanks give u nothing when u sell them and only give you money when u start the game. U can just get free money when u sell lvl 1 tanks and that makes it easier to get tanks that need a lot of silver to buy.

floral rain
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You can only sell tanks 10 times per day so have fun grinding out a million credits by selling tier 1s

neat nimbus
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just got the progetto 65 any tips

floral matrix
floral rain
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Last time I checked time travel doesn't exist yet.
Just checked 30 minutes into the future and I can confirm, time travel still doesn't exist.

floral matrix
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nvm

novel frigate
novel frigate
floral rain
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no i just tested it out but you're getting 100 credits back since they include a multi-kit for you that you can sell
with that being said you would need to sell a tier 1 tank 10,000 times to get a million credits

novel frigate
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lmao someones probably tried to use it to their advantage

tender knoll
floral matrix
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k

wooden crater
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the 50% discount is on the base price, the actual selling price is (baseprice*discount)+otherstuff, with otherstuff being some standard and he shells and some consumables

severe flame
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vk 72 best tank in wotb no debate

tender knoll
hasty wasp
#

vehicle discussion? more like put annhilator to tier 8 and buff its hp

somber hawk
restive nova
tame parrot
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Question: Is the 50 B considered good?

fast compass
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Yes

lyric copper
tame parrot
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Hmmm ok thx guys

median tree
#

buff sta 1, simple as that

sweet mural
#

Is the tier 8 t34 good?

lyric copper
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@sweet mural good gun, pretty ok turret

somber hawk
clear night
#

Europe tanks has a good turn rate both heavy and medium, a response time to the opposition is excellent

ruby lintel
tender knoll
ruby lintel
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It needs a bit of hull armor, but not too much

tender knoll
tender knoll
solid trench
#

E100 or Jag E100?🤔 got them researched but which one to purchase?

ruby lintel
ruby lintel
tender knoll
bright sentinel
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Should I get my E-100 back 🤔 ping me if you have an answer

ruby lintel
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@bright sentinel depends, do you like it and are you good in it?

bright sentinel
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Yes but I remember selling it becuase I couldn't deal with tier 10 mm anymore but I would get 2k avg dmg in it and my team would just die

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Like just die when not even a. Minute has passed in the match

tender knoll
bright sentinel
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Well then I guess I was good

weary sun
#

guys i really need someone to teach me how to use the mediums

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@here

solid trench
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@ruby lintel Not my first tier 10 but I like meds more, I do get along with T110E5, didnt like fv215 due to gun depr

tender knoll
#

does wargaming ever release offer for tier9/10 tanks??

bright sentinel
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Rarely af

ruby lintel
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@bright sentinel well, mm is still, well you know, bad, so if mm is what made you stop, then I wouldn't go back. Its still bad.

river dome
#

🥸

river dome
ruby lintel
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@solid trench well, heres my thoughts.

Dont get the jag e100, its one of if not the worst tier 10 td in the entire game.

Now the e100 on the other hand, is a good tank, but you will need to learn to angle the turret to get bounces since flat on, its butter to prammo. I would suggest watching videos on how to do so.

Personally, I wouldn't get either, especially the former, since its really bad. If you like mobile tanks, a good heavy that fits in line with the med playstyle would be the 50b. The tank is good, but harder to play.

ruby lintel
tender knoll
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hahahahha i just play in tier 8...still grinding my amx 50 120

river dome
tender knoll
ruby lintel
river dome
ruby lintel
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Cant do a lot of damage when your whole teams dies in under a minute.

tender knoll
river dome
tender knoll
ruby lintel
tender knoll
river dome
tender knoll
#

just now my team had an emil who just sit there at spawn and telling enemies where our locations are lmao

ruby lintel
ruby lintel
tender knoll
#

for a while i think i need to stop for a bit..relaxing my messed up mind seeing those player.

river dome
tender knoll
#

sometime i cannot hold myself for getting angry and typing in the chat lmao..but that is very rare ahhaa

ruby lintel
tender knoll
tender knoll
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hahhaha

tribal prairie
#

Happen on me F

tender knoll
#

the mm is suck bro tbh

heady galleon
#

How good is the VK 72.01 K line?

calm drumBOT
#

dynoSuccess _SaurKraut v.2.0#3785 has been warned.

wise moth
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@heady galleon It's one of the worst lines in the game

heady galleon
#

Oh my alright

ruby lintel
#

@heady galleon dont bother

#

The bubbles on the vk 72 are too weak, standard ammo can punch through it if your rng is decent

solid gate
#

need help any tips on t110e5 and what's the equipment setup of the tank?

lyric oriole
#

Rammer, Defense System, Optics
(Personally I prefer supercharged), HP (to stack with sandbags), Horsepower
V-stabs, Toolbox, Consumable Delivery system

solid gate
#

thanks @lyric oriole

somber hawk
ruby lintel
#

@somber hawk jageroo sucks donkey ********

somber hawk
ruby lintel
#

Thats slower than my grandma.

slender cliff
ruby lintel
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@slender cliff "if" is right. It takes so long to get into position, and even if you do, people will hit you easily when you back up since your super slow.

slender cliff
ruby lintel
slender cliff
ruby lintel
slender cliff
ruby lintel
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If this tank is "balanced," then why is the jageroo considered one of if not the worst t10 td in the entire game, if the situational aspect makes it "balanced"?

slender cliff
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youre saying it outright sucks which is wrong

gentle wasp
#

that would be the 183, but just being situational doesn't mean it's a bad tank. conversely, being a flexible tank doesn't mean you're OP.

slender cliff
#

^

slender cliff
ruby lintel
# slender cliff it all comes down to personal opinion and maybe skill

Its hard to call it a "personal opinion" when a majority of the communtiy can agree that the jageroo isn't very good, and the skill aspect is irrelevant since anyone can make a tank seem broken or terrible depending on skill lvl. On top of that, we're talking about the tank in general, not the player behind the tank.

solid gate
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By the definition then all TDs suck now jg is still a solid choice in today’s heavy meta where tanks like 268 foch 155 and grille are starting to lack and age the jag is still relevant from its ability to punish heavies heavily which is greatly appreciated in today’s meta

slender cliff
ruby lintel
#

Nice comeback. Doesn't prove me wrong tho.

thick trout
slender cliff
solid gate
#

who knows the exact price of the is7 battle hardened skin?

hollow moth
hollow moth
#

to deal with heavies, you need alpha, pen and armor too, Jagdpanzer E100 have those 3 things

slender cliff
#

yep exactly

slender cliff
floral rain
#

yeah seems about right

grizzled dust
ruby lintel
hollow moth
#

stills better than a lot of other TDs

solid gate
#

Hmm it’s almost like it’s in the middle of the meta TDs and the terrible ones

slender cliff
#

you cant compare it with tanks like the badger since there is not nearly as many players who play it rather than the jpz e-100

hollow moth
slender cliff
#

no, im just stating specifically

thick trout
# ruby lintel Would agree, but...

But what? It literally shows exactly the same, the Jag being a solid TD. Definite not "one of if not the worst t10 td in the entire game" like somebody said earlier

ruby lintel
thick trout
#

Did you willfully ignore the other two? Or did you focus on one where it's literally in line with 8/11 of the other tanks and take this data way out of proportion pretending it supports your point of view?

ruby lintel
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No, i looked at it and saw that the data shown by you and me both proved our points, but what my point was that there is evidence showing the jag is underperforming and you fail to mention it in your previous comment just to prove your point. BUT, to be fair, i didn't acknowledge yours either, so im in the wrong their as well.@thick trout

tender knoll
#

haahahha aku hensem

hollow notch
#

4k5 and 110e4 are the best tds.
Easily

imagine not being able to shoot over the side

wise moth
#

^^^^^So much this. This post brought to you by turreted TD gang

solid gate
#

Can’t hear you over the sound of the injured crew prompt

slender cliff
hollow notch
#

Peeking a corner takes a fraction of the time of a casemate td, which results in getting shot less. That is a massive advantage that I cannot play without

clear night
#

True, most tanks have turret at the middle of the body where some has at back and front. Therefore, peeking is best suited with back and front turrets

wise moth
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@clear night No, the closer the turret is to the front of the tank, the better

kindred wren
# ruby lintel Did you willfully ignore the top one?

The top one is average winrate, which is lower on the Jagdpanzer E 100 because it is popular with people with lower winrate. If you take the relative winrate the Jagdpanyer E 100 is ranking third.

Also, there is a ranking to be made concerning statistics due to the limited playerpool:

  1. WG statistics (biggest player pool)
    2.BlitzAnalysiz[] statistics
    3.BlitzStars statistics (smallest player pool)
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If you plan on going around the corner like a car usually would a frontally placed turret is best

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But depending on the TD you are not in much of a disadvantage when going around corners. Those with a good gunarc are exceptionally good at it

wise moth
#

@clear night Here's a quick illustration showing why front mounted turret tanks can peek corners more easily

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kindred wren
#

Peeking a corner like that is a bit non-smart though

wise moth
#

Yes I’m aware that this is a pretty dumb way to peek corners, but this is still fundamentally why rear mounts are worse for peeking

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The only way a rear mounted turret tank can quickly peek a corner is by reversing out, which is slower, and exposes its rear armor, or by sidescraping, which is slow, and lets the enemy shoot first

clear night
#

@wise moth and turret situated at the back are same which has good advantage for peeking

kindred wren
#

Rear turrets are better for sidescraping though

wise moth
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@clear night No, because the front turret is exposing his front armor to peek, but to do the same thing, the rear mounted turret has to peek with his rear armor

solid gate
#

Let’s just say 183 FV215 and rear turrets like IS2 SH Blaze and lupus ,Chrysler don’t last very long when they side scrape

kindred wren
#

I personally don't mind the turret placement on my tanks as I try to play the tanks like they are supposed to be played. The only time when I really have an issue with rear turrets is when the tanks don't have side armour like the FV215b, that's just annoying to deal with

clear night
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@wise moth peeking advantages are probably for rear mounted turret since peeking expose tracks and can be a disadvantage for most tanks

mossy sleet
#

@wise moth respond because mods are ded, hitler in #blitz-memes. ok nvm

solid gate
#

He doesn’t have perms

mossy sleet
solid gate
#

Front turrets can repair from being tracked much easier rear view turrets have to side scrape to peek and risk being HE spammed

kindred wren
mossy sleet
#

i dont remember chrysler side armor being that thick, kinda long ago last time i met one 🤔

kindred wren
#

110mm

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Also, you don't need to constantly expose parts of your armour when sidescraping

mossy sleet
#

true

ruby lintel
# slender cliff bro just accept the fact that the jpz e-100 does *not* "suck donkey". Dont bash ...

Its not because i can't play it well. That is not how i tend to meausre how good or bad a tank is. I measure how good or bad a tank is by fighting it. In my numerous encounters with the jageroo, I usually see the tank get f'd up because of its major flaws. The usual situation is that the jag shoots, get spotted, and then gets lit the f up because its slow, which then leads to it dying early on or id dying towards the end of the game with low damage. That is why my viewpoint of the tank is that its bad, because whenever I encounter it, the tank gets taken out quickly either on my team or the enemy team.

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@slender cliff But, I will say one thing. This talk with you was nice because I do have a slightly different view of the jageroo (in its favor), so if that was one of your reasons for doing this discussion, then you accomplished that.

floral rain
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Gonna be honest looking at how a tank performs by fighting against it is just as bad as looking how it performs by playing with it.
There's just way too many factors that affect its performance. Main thing is player skill and the only real way to get around that is to look at statistic websites where the sheer amount of data they have means there's a way to gauge the performance of a tank

slender cliff
# ruby lintel Its not because i can't play it well. That is not how i tend to meausre how good...

yes i also had those nightmare games, But at the end of the day you just have to consider many other factors and possibly luck that lead you to having those horrible games. And yeah i can relate. Sometimes when i get a horrible game in my isu or any tank, i also thought that tank is hot garbage. Same for the jageroo; some games i get outspotted and flanked to death others, i nearly pull off 7 thousand damage. Its all a process getting used to the tank and understanding its weaknesses which may inevitably give you those bad games. That's what situational tanks are made of. But im glad you see both sides of the discussion which is good 👍

slender cliff
ruby lintel
# slender cliff yes i also had those nightmare games, But at the end of the day you just have to...

I try to understand the strengths and weaknesses of my tanks, and it has actually helped me become a better player at them. The french heavy line, mainy from the amx 50 100 all the way to the 50b, were tanks that I used to hate. But over time and looking at reviews and forums, I got better at the tank and now average about 60 - 65% in my 50 100 and 50 120 with about 800 in one and 300 in the other. I will try to learn more about the tank to better understand it. And thanks for understanding my pov.👍

mossy sleet
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wow, long sentences are gonne give me a headache <_<