#vehicles-discussion

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lyric copper
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VL > BC really

static harness
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imagine not having to pull 200 times for her
Post was made by poor gang

brave night
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Then again I’m NA so idk what EU meta is

static harness
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How would the BC win?
VL just has to load hesh

floral rain
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If you want to run clippers in tourneys just use 50B/57 heavy

brave night
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Vickers won’t always pen hesh and the bat chat can two clip easy

lyric copper
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@brave night VL has greater DPM tho, and 100% HESH pen

floral rain
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Nah vickers will 100% pen hesh

static harness
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The thing is
Even if
In a normal battle the VL will always be 100% hulldown
So gl bc

floral rain
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Except this is tourneys we're talking about

brave night
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Yes but your going in a fight do 930 in 4.6 seconds go on reload for 14 and the clip em out in 4.6 and I’m talking from experience

static harness
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BC can't run from that thing
You'll just get heshed for 14 secs if you do

lyric copper
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assuming standard rolls ^

that’s 18s

floral rain
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Vickers or any non-heavy tank is pretty much used for cap control and/ or spotting
Technically 5.6 second burst because 2.8*2

brave night
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And no I’m not fighting bot teams @floral rain sorry for my terrible math lol

lyric copper
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reason you also see more VLs in pro play is due to view range and also hesh, and frontal armour that can’t be HE penned

brave night
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Yes I know but the bat chat is faster and can be used was my point

static harness
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Also the fact that it has bs trollarmour

floral rain
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I don't know about EU but NA's tourney play is pretty much just whoever has better focus fire

brave night
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Your not wrong, it’s who bleeds the most and then has a more effective rush

lyric copper
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BC is an assasin, VL is a more active role, Sheri is hit and run

floral rain
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In which case consistency > everything else. Batchat has 930 clip but is pretty much useless for 14 seconds when reloading

brave night
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True but I mean you have a team

static harness
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Nope lol

brave night
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We are talking about tourneys so I trust my teammates

floral rain
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Except you're going to use lights and meds for cap control

static harness
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Well then of course
If they can communicate its a different story

brave night
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Well that’s my situation most of the time

floral rain
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Batchat has 930 clip but then has to abandon control for 14 seconds on reload which is enough time for enemy to cap the point

lyric copper
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VL is used because of 2 things: HE pen and viewrange

brave night
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Well that’s why you have a team to make sure the cap isn’t lost, this can be done really effectively when your team is a vc, which mine is

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But of course this is assuming you have the same thing

lyric copper
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yeah but still, losing an entire gun on the 2nd fastest tier X LT for 14s is huge

brave night
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I mean kran reload for 12

lyric copper
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yes, but kran can use the turret whilst reloading

brave night
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As does maus

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While the bat chat is on reload it can reposition to make it useful to the team

lyric copper
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maus isn’t about shooting, it’s about baiting and taking shots for the team

wise moth
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For tourneys the Vickers at least on NA is the preferred light
Also, no one really uses TDs, and if they do pick one, it's usually an E3

brave night
wise moth
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For heavies, most heavies are honestly comp viable depending on the map/situation, but the most meta picks are E5/Kran/IS-4 in that order

lyric copper
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E3 has armour and speed boost (still don’t get why)

static harness
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For the same reason the vk 90 has that aim thing

floral rain
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yes

wise moth
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The only tech tree heavy really that isn't comp viable is honestly just the VK 72. Every other heavy has its niche use in some way

lyric copper
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also what is with the VK 90’s hit model, had this few days ago, VK is at a 40° angle, with IS-4 HEAT CS, no pen, hit flush sides, how

floral rain
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is7 noises

wise moth
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@floral rain I really like using IS-7s in strats for the speed. It's a really great battering ram when you need to cross open ground where something like an IS-4 just wouldn't be the same

lyric copper
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battering any medium with the IS-7 is a dream come true

floral rain
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fair, i've only really seen blitz cup tourneys and the gameplay they have there is like watching paint dry

lyric copper
static harness
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I'd take the paint any day

wise moth
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A recent scrim I played with V2 against GP we ran like triple IS-7s into dunes on Oasis, and triple tapped a T-22 and lit it on fire. Dropped him down to like 250 HP in mere moments

floral rain
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blitz cup really do be WW1 strategies of attrition warfare

lyric copper
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@floral rain well, every single mistake is typically punished hard, so the team that makes the biggest mistake (e.g. GV going focusing the mauses instead of other tanks in Asia finals) will lose, so they must play cautiously

floral rain
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still can't wait for a team to run 7 maus tanks and have a 21000 hp pool

lyric copper
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full cap maus strat

royal charm
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100Y what equipment

wise moth
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@floral rain This was last year. Not quite 7 Maus, but it was close

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lyric copper
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@wise moth bruh moment

floral rain
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c h o n k

lyric copper
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@wise moth did ya win?

wise moth
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@lyric copper We won the first round pretty convincingly, but the second round was close. Here's the final moment from the second battle

(in case you don't see it, that's an IS-4 choking the game deciding shot)

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floral rain
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is moch4 mocha or someone else

wise moth
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That's Mocha

floral rain
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i see

lyric copper
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IS-4 making major misplays instead of firing HEAT at turret

brittle atlas
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how does one not have a 37% wr in the fv183, should i kemp bush and snipe or stay behind heavy tanks,

wise moth
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@lyric copper Nah, IS-4 HE splash physically cannot roll for 321. He needed to HEAT pen me, he just missed

lyric copper
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yeah that’s what I meant to say, didn’t see you had 300 hp lol

floral rain
strange thicket
brittle atlas
wise moth
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That's the hilarious thing about the Maus. Even a Maus with the HP bar so low still has ~300 HP lol @lyric copper

floral rain
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there's a reason its WR bar is like 1/3rd as tall as the 2nd lowest wr TD

brittle atlas
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it needs a buff then

wise moth
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@brittle atlas You can't buff 183 without it screwing balance. Before it was nerfed, it had the highest DPB by far at tier 10, but still the lowest WR

lyric copper
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^

brittle atlas
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dpb?

wise moth
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@brittle atlas Damage per battle

plucky summit
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damage per battle, oof

brittle atlas
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the how tf do you loose with such good dpb

lyric copper
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@brittle atlas teams

wise moth
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Because 183 contributes nothing to the battle other than damage (and oftentimes, that damage is dealt just as the battle is essentially over too)

floral rain
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because 183 just has huge damage rolls and absolutely nothing else

lyric copper
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if you want dmg and want to be more useful, play the jpz

plucky summit
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183 probably doesn't tend to secure kills, since they'd rather secure more damage on another enemy that has HP

brittle atlas
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so the battle can be won if the team just takes out the low health ones that where shot by the fv?

plucky summit
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And, to be honest, that's me

And yes

wise moth
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Although, I will say, 183 is pretty fantastic in Skirmish mode. Skirmish's limited maps mean there are far fewer corridors, which tend to funnel people towards a 183, which can essentially singlehandedly block off half of an entire skirmish map

floral rain
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well yes, most battles are won by whichever team uses their HP more wisely

lyric copper
floral rain
brittle atlas
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so what im getting is that the fv 183 is having low wr bc teams are bad?

plucky summit
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183s are really self centered tanks

wise moth
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@brittle atlas No. Because 183 cannot do things that other tanks can do.

183 cannot bounce shells for the team, he cannot bully enemies out of strong positions, he cannot stop people from flanking, he cannot himself flank and create pressure, etc...

All he can do is damage

brittle atlas
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i see

floral rain
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183 is not a carry tank, it has firepower that is inconsistent at best and terrible at worst with nothing else

wise moth
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@lyric copper No, the perfect platoon is 1 Maus, 1 FV TD. You drive the Maus onto the cap, and use the 183 to block off anyone who tries to reset

lyric copper
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skirmish cap meta is annoying but it works

plucky summit
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Pretty sure cap rate increased by a solid 700% in Skirmish xD

brittle atlas
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so the second teir 10 i got is only really good at fun modes lmao, i got sheridan first also

floral rain
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of course, there are times (like fatness' 10k 183 game) where you do so much damage it takes an actual idiotic team to still lose the game but those are very rare

lyric copper
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why did you go for em

@brittle atlas

plucky summit
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Biggest gun, biggest fun?

brittle atlas
lyric copper
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@brittle atlas biggest gun does not always = biggest fun

strange thicket
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you should've probably listened to people when they told you the tank is garbage, that is if you asked about it before.
also if you want a big gun play the Jgpze100

brittle atlas
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kinda did for me lol

lyric copper
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you ever blocked +6k in a tank before? @brittle atlas

plucky summit
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I love my 183, fun credit burner 😄

floral rain
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you don't play the 183 for wins, you play it for absolutely ruining someone's life

brittle atlas
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yes, in cheiftank mk6 and 252u

plucky summit
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Is there a way to check highest blocked damage? I may have it in the Lowe or one of the Mice

lyric copper
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@brittle atlas then you should know the feeling of godlihood that comes with it

wise moth
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There's not, since the API doesn't track it, although, iirc WG does have plans to add it

plucky summit
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But the feeling of chunking about half of someone's HP in tier 10 😌

floral rain
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you ever be a better heavy tank than your team's heavy tanks while in a medium?

wise moth
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*T-22 noises*

plucky summit
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@floral rain depends, what medium, because I can just use Pz. II J and say I did a better job than heavies in a light

floral rain
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prog 65. not even joking

brittle atlas
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i have no idea what tank i will grind next

wise moth
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Prog 65 is one of those tanks where I struggle to pen his turret, but when I play it, I don't bounce squat with the turret

kindred wren
brittle atlas
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kinda wanna get t62a, i have t-44 researched, or i can finnaly get grille bc i have the teir 9 resaecrhed and 30k on it

plucky summit
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@kindred wren it got a big boy buff for a small nerf

lyric copper
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the amount of people crying because they couldn’t pen the spaced armour and angled side armour of my T-22 is hilarious

floral rain
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i swear half the time i shoot a prog's turret i get a ricochet or non penetration meanwhile when i play the prog everyone has 20,000 mm pen

lyric copper
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hearing the ping! and HISS of shells is like music

kindred wren
wise moth
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@lyric copper T-22 is dumb because it's literally a medium with the armor profile of a heavy. When even slightly angled, the only pennable part is half of the front pike. The lower plate, other half of the pike, sides, and turret are all completely impenetrable

floral rain
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back to me trying to vibe with rammer 50m
TIL i realized rammer 50m can't pen the is7's lower plate

wise moth
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And when the stupid thing has that kinda traverse, and goes 50km/h, it's basically like lol good luck trying to hit it.

In terms of area, it's literally like trying to hit the lower plate on a moving E5

plucky summit
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In Update 7.2, the Pz. II J lost 10mm of side armor but got pen buffs from 23/46 to 44/80 respectively, which allows it over the edge of effectiveness in penetration, and it also got an alpha buff beforehand after 5.5

In Update 7.1, it got 100 more HP and also got damage buff from 12/7 to 15/12

lyric copper
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I have a theory: wiggling in a T-22 hypnotises some enemies into rushing the shot

floral rain
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pretty much

plucky summit
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I think it's just the enemy wants to shoot you before you reload :p

wise moth
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@lyric copper You * have* to rush the shot against T-22s, since if he gets close enough to face or sidehug you, you might as well just go back to the garage right there

kindred wren
wise moth
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So really, your only chance is to deal as much damage as you can before he can get close, which is why you have to rush the shots against him

lyric copper
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when facing a T-22:

DONT PANIC

unless you miss, then feel free to panic as much as you want

floral rain
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fun fact yesterday: in PC i was vibing around with rental tier 10s, facehugged an object 705a, and then realized he had 3 marks and i screwed up

wise moth
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ew, WoT PC

plucky summit
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My only simp for WoT PC is the O-I

floral rain
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WG's art department carrying the entire company though

wise moth
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Only reason why I bother even with the WoT PC test server is just to play 5 shell Bat Chat, and arty

plucky summit
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Blitz's monetization carrying the company 😂

wise moth
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Blitz is high key the only WG game that doesn't have a shrinking playerbase now

plucky summit
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Probably because of the platoon nerfs that hit PC

Or the very effective system of making you feel useless in a 1/15

floral rain
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warplanes doesnt have a shrinking playerbase because it never had a playerbase to begin with

wise moth
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xaxaxaxa

plucky summit
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Oh, also arty

strange thicket
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i thought world of warships was doing fine 🤔 ?

wise moth
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I cannot stress how much I hate 15v15. If they made PC 7v7, I might actually play it

lyric copper
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warships players are either Azur Lane fans or actually have an interest in naval stuff

floral rain
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commander rework hecked the game up hard

plucky summit
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@wise moth Blitz through Steam, ez

wise moth
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That's what I do lol

plucky summit
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Same

strange thicket
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i mean, WoT PC seems kinda fun.
i wanna get to do scouting or use a sniping tank as an actual sniper. or have long battles.
but i didn't try the game so i am not entirely sure.

lyric copper
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I mean, it’s ruled by arty and Russian premiums

floral rain
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russian prems aren't as bad as wheely bois
until you get russian wheely bois

wise moth
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@strange thicket WoT PC is literally just sitting in a bush or a hulldown and waiting for tomatoes to make silly peeks for 10 minutes (all the while hoping to dear god your teams tomatoes don't die first)

strange thicket
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well, that ain't too wrong.
but i still wanna give it a shot.
also the OP tanks can't be as bad as tier 7,6 in blitz right?

floral rain
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uhhhhhhhhhhhh

lyric copper
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I mean, arty is balance factor

plucky summit
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Arty butters them decks

floral rain
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good news is that there's not a lot of OP low tier tanks
bad news is that low tiers is actual hell in PC

wise moth
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@strange thicket Everything on PC is "op" by Blitz standards. Heavy tanks have more armor, autoloaders have bigger, faster magazines, and TDs have more alpha.

Add on the fact that larger maps mean a lot more open ground to cross, and the fact that 15v15 means there's literally like 6 tanks on every lane, and it means if you dare to do anything other than sit in a bush/hulldown waiting for idiots to peek, you're going to get deleted

plucky summit
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Yeah, in tier I a T1 Cunningham can clip you off but they have absolute point blank accuracy effectiveness

Everyone in low tier can kill the others very quickly

lyric copper
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@wise moth oh and the IS-7 gets a cool style and 490 alpha

mmmm love doing 500+ dmg

wise moth
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IS-7 is probably the only tank that I think looks cooler on Blitz actually once you put on the attachment

floral rain
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jag e100 hits for 1050 lmao

strange thicket
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Bruh

floral rain
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4005 and 83mm guns hit for 1650 with HESH

plucky summit
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I just expect tier 3s to have a 2 second reload, and still do lots of damage, I wouldn't have the patience to grind that much

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I've never kept track of their balancing, never really seen many nerfs or buffs other than to their mechanics like crew stuns, autoreloader+s

Still, there is always that one tank that'll ruin your day

wise moth
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The big problems with the low tiers experience are
A. Not being able to afford prammo/equipment
B. Not having any crew skills
C. +2/-2 MM
D. Long queue times (2-3 minutes on average in my experience)

plucky summit
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I always get my +1, but I'm never 2 on top =(

But to be fair that's just the tier 7-10's job

strange thicket
plucky summit
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I like the dynamic camo options, showing off my tank canvas and then one shotting people

wise moth
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extreme as in extremely boring

plucky summit
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Light tanks do be useless unless they're either low tier, or wheeled

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Who needs armor when they can't even hit you? :D

:_D

wise moth
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I do like the way tier 10 lights are balanced on PC though.

Unlike Blitz pseudo-medium light tanks, PC lights are actually lights. No armor, and low HP

For Blitz, if they had their guns tuned up a bit, they'd be great

lyric copper
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I do also like the designated target skill, I wonder if it could be in blitz?

floral rain
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ebr noises lmao

plucky summit
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Vickers Light doing their job but still having annoying armor

wise moth
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@plucky summit Vickers light is more of a medium. It's super slow by light tank standards, has medium tank HP, and way more armor than a light

Literally nothing about it says that it's a light tank other than the diamond icon and the name "Vickers light"

plucky summit
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Just the spotting range :p

lyric copper
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funnily enough has more armour than the most light tank like medium, Leopard 1

plucky summit
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I kinda feel like playing BatChat now, or FV4005

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Or drawing tanks

Or maybe just doing normal productive things

strange thicket
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only thing making leo1 a med is probably the excellent gun and size.

floral rain
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play common test client if you just want to vibe with tanks

lyric copper
plucky summit
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Maybe I just got an urge to play autoloaders

strange thicket
floral rain
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bad gun platform though

lyric copper
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^

wise moth
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Playing the Leopard 1 really makes me wish there were a tank like it, but with more camo, accuracy, and more DPM, and the ability to bounce some shells when hull down

*cough* STRV 103 *cough*

floral rain
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udes 15/16

plucky summit
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Don't even make it practical, the entire lower side of the tank can be a weakspot, and only the UFP and turret is solid. The gun doesn't even have to do over 400, I just want a chonker

floral rain
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looks like an O-Ho on a weight loss plan

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nah actually that looks like someone slapped an o-ho turret on a maus

plucky summit
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The fact that the hull alone weighed over 100 tons scares me

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This thing, afaik, would weigh more than E 100

floral rain
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that's what my sleep paralysis demon looks like

plucky summit
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Boy do I have some tanks for you

floral rain
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short barreled E100 on a shopping cart

lyric copper
plucky summit
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It was supposed to be Sheridan's gun but my skill is less than optimal xD

floral rain
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the Cart-100

plucky summit
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Maybe with a better turret though...

I'm off to debate my life now

lyric copper
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AE-Phase III

floral rain
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if halo's scorpion, a 120mm L1A1, and a 62a had a baby

lyric copper
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more like a 54 with that turret MG port, also the gun and breach can depress lower than it normally should due to the raising breach housing, so maybe a bit of the Rhm.PzW?

plucky summit
floral rain
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nUDES 03

plucky summit
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Oh and someone requested this, I butchered the IS-4 hull though, since I’m sooooo good at proportions 😂

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I’m terrifyingly impressed at myself for the turret though

floral rain
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the AMX 4 IS-54

plucky summit
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Time to attempt to replicate the gun and also try to replicate the AMX M4 mle 54 turret

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No idea what to do for the hull though, maybe a big heavy, or maybe I just freestyle a hull

crystal hare
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Do a very sloped hull

floral rain
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what was that one object tank that was like 2 feet tall

crystal hare
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@floral rain obj 400something?

floral rain
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it was like the t100 lt but literally just flat

hollow notch
plucky summit
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@crystal hare never thought of it that way

@hollow notch yeah they complained that it was too tall like 54’s 😅

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Anyways I’ll have it drawn some time later, tell me if you wanna get pinged with it

signal wedge
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Does it bother anyone else that the Swedish and British tanks have the american crew voice?

lyric copper
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apparently Italian voices are being worked on

floral rain
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All the EU crews have normal voices

signal wedge
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"Normal voices" as in English, american accent?

plucky summit
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Normal as in default I think 🤔

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Which, yes, is American English

signal wedge
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ok.

signal wedge
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Or did you mean tanks from the 'European nation' tech tree?

wooden crater
floral rain
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I'm referring to the EU tech tree

signal wedge
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Yeah. All the tanks in that tree, and the British one, have the wrong language/accent for the crews. It bugs me, but I suppose it's more of a minor aesthetics thing.

solid gate
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is the m48 grind awful?

sacred trail
lyric copper
solid gate
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alr. but is it a fun grind overall?

wooden crater
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best tank in the line is e8, just goes downhill from there

crystal hare
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E8 is bad

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@solid gate not fun grind, m48 not worth it

solid gate
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then what american line besides the T110E3 and E5 should I go for minus the sheridan

wooden crater
strange thicket
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it is kinda the m48 and E4 that are stinkers

solid gate
# strange thicket t57 is also not bad

I was thinking about the T57, but what’s putting me off is the two light tanks. Any tips for the guy that is usually a heavy/TD player on how to run lights

strange thicket
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well, i just kinda flow with lights so i don't exactly have mental notes on them but i will try.
try to get to key positions to spot.
don't engage in direct combat.
the rest is dependent on your tank's specific characteristics.
Sheridan is a hit and run tank for example, you let your mates take the shots and you shoot your shot and get out.
you can afford to trade if you are sure you are getting out of that place or have enough backup so you don't get rushed

solid gate
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Alright thanks man. Appreciate it

fast compass
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Generally conserving hitpoints is extremely important. Allows you to be more flexible late game.

neat nimbus
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wg has a big pontetial on camos and 3d styles

signal wedge
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I've liked the T57 line (I'm at t69 rn). Also thought the Sheridan line was fun (at t49 rn).

void trellis
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will blitz add tier 4/5-10 Polish tanks?

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im new here btw

hollow moth
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@void trellis there's onlt 2 polish tanks confirmed

Pudel, a captured stock panther, Tier 6 premium medium tank

50TP Prototyp, a very bouncy tier 9 collector (probably will become premium in future) heavy tank

floral rain
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sad 10TP and 14TP noises

neat nimbus
fast compass
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Nope. So far, apart from 10tp and 14tp, the remaining two are premiums on pc @neat nimbus

onyx lion
spark basin
median tree
onyx lion
keen garnet
onyx lion
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Lol

inland salmon
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I just get E75, is there anything I should know about this tank ?

brittle atlas
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how bad is the t-28 mod 1940

strange thicket
heady galleon
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Every single battlepass tank for the first tier I already have and its making me sad 😔

heady galleon
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What do you all think of the Maus line, im at the Tiger(P) currently

distant nymph
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Which to get first - T32 or T-34-2? (ping if you answer)

hollow moth
distant nymph
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I'll inevitably get both, thank you

sacred trail
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Turret is heavily armored if you angle it correctly and it’s glassis plates are harder to penetrate than the T29. It’s top gun can do 1800 DPM with AP with a loading time of about 10 seconds with 100% mastery and a bottle of cola

brazen tangle
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is the stock t49 too bad? or do most people free xp their way into the big gun and turret mod

solid gate
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E100 or IS4?

tepid geyser
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is4

lyric copper
solid gate
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What's better at it than E100?

lyric copper
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gun in general except for alpha, mobility, better turret, faster etc

solid gate
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Oh ok thanks

brave night
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not that e100 is bad just is4 is the king of tier 10 heavies

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quite boring to play tho

candid harbor
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yea, is4 doesn't provide much or any challenge to make it feel satisfying to play

hollow moth
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E100 is for the real heavy chads that want to punch hard the enemies. Pure german technical superiority, pure bias.

IS-4 is for the lazy ones that want to stat padding and easy battles. No challange at all. Tank for kids.

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(I might got a little bit biased during this comparison, just a bit biased)

candid harbor
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bit biased
smh is4 barely takes as much skill as e100, how can you be so neutral and have audacity to call yourself bit biased
you aren't even biased
you get a big L

signal wedge
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Maus: Hello?

soft tiger
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T29 gameplay advice?

lyric copper
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hull down god, beat up annis and smashers who do not realise they will die to an entrenched T29

plucky summit
gentle wasp
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nice work man

pliant lodge
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Looks like a cross between mle and Type 5 Heavy.

plucky summit
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I ripped the gun from a random tank I drawn

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Actually seems OP, my bad

I always make OP tanks

nocturne sage
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Then ur perfect for WG

plucky summit
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:D

:_D

crystal hare
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@solid gate actually somewhat balanced for tier 10 imo
Unless it’s 290mm thickness v effective

floral rain
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I'm just concerned that what you have is basically a kranvagn on crack
128mm gun with insane pen and gun handling, 12 degrees of gun depression, and 290mm (non-td standard pen proof) turret? good luck trying to get this thing off of a hill

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280mm already puts it at highest non-td pen without factoring in normalization. 280mm with calibrated means almost 300mm of standard pen. That punches through E100 turret basically every single time. 310mm heat with calibrated means 341mm heat pen which pens basically anything in the game.

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honestly if that tank was in the game i would run rammer because 8 second reload without provisions means 3450 DPM. That's 113-levels of DPM with higher alpha, better gun handling, and hulldown god

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If you ever want to give medium tanks nightmares this is the tank for it lmao

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but hey slap it into christmas event as a crate tank and WG got a new source of revenue

solid gate
solid gate
glass relic
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VK100p monke brain tank, wiggle and you're ready to tank shots

Mäuschen internal screaming

Maus again monke brain just wiggle and you're settled to be a super heavy.

woeful horizon
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We need Tier 11

somber hawk
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are you guys still awaiting Czechoslovakian tanks to be added?
Well, two of them are already ingame. The Pz. 35(t) and LT vz. 38

verbal totem
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Does the fv4005 worth it?

candid harbor
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it is, but it is not easy to play

somber hawk
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what is best tier X TD?

candid harbor
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268 maybe

verbal totem
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Also how do you play the E5 properly? I need tips

lyric copper
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Hull down, wiggle a lot

somber hawk
lyric copper
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263 has no gun dep

somber hawk
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actually im going for foch 155 is it good or bad

verbal totem
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Ok thanks

lyric copper
candid harbor
fast compass
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And that troll armour. One match you will bounce 3k. Another game everyone hits your easy to hit weakspot

verbal totem
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Oh gosh i remembered playing the wz-111G-Ft its horrible or im i just bad playing it

lyric copper
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slightly troll armour tho

verbal totem
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Well i sold it

distant nymph
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how much XP is your average tier 6? I don't have unresearched tier 6s but I'm grinding to get the skoda t25 on day one but idk how much it will prolly be

somber hawk
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averagely 30k

verbal totem
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Im already to research it lol

somber hawk
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get 35k to be sure

distant nymph
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alright, thanks

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the m/42 is one of my favourite tanks so I should get it quite quickly

somber hawk
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i got kv2 in just 2 days

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bc im good with kv1

agile prawn
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I miss old kv1

solid gate
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I take back all the terrible things I've said about it, the tank is pretty good

verbal totem
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Yea just play it even your terrible with it until you master it

late niche
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how DO i play kv3?

distant nymph
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well the russian tier 7 heavies aren't good. Hope you survive is my advice - you get penned easily, you're slow, I think only good advantage is the alpha damage and turret (but you got no gun depression so no hull down)

verbal totem
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Well you should be careful where your going on the map especially you had bad armor

sudden ravine
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Do i run calibrated shells or gun rammer on T110E5

wise moth
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Gun rammer

wooden crater
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i run cali in comp and high ratings, rammer in pubs

rugged meadow
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how do you play the A-20?

polar slate
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guys i got a question should i go for the chinese mediums or the chinese td and if the tank mediums do i go for that or switch to heavy as soon as it lets me?

rigid condor
agile prawn
spark basin
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chinese heavies more forgiving

polar slate
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so heavy tanks?

agile prawn
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Chinese tanks

polar slate
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i mean i been playing for a while but i wont consider myself good at the game

spark basin
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chinese mediums have quick aim time, good turret armor but awful gun depression and fat alpha compared to other meds

polar slate
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hm thx ill go for the meds

lyric copper
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@polar slate don’t do it for the alpha

amber onyx
sudden ravine
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I'm yet to get a tier X light tank and i can't pick between the vickers and sheridan, un-HEable durp light tank seems like fun but is the vickers more competitive in pubs and ratings?

pliant lodge
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@amber onyx VK 100 (P) also has no recoil. Probably a soild mounted gun

solid gate
amber onyx
floral rain
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i think WG just didn't animate it

distant nymph
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Skoda T25 is 24.5k experience. Just so you know how much you need to collect to get it on day one

floral rain
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mauschen costs a lot more than 32k free xp

tidal remnant
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@crimson dome

floral rain
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how much is the mauschen

wooden crater
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if anyone intends to free xp to the t10 like me, the total raw fxp cost, including the t6 and all necessary modules, is ~750k fxp, and without the t6 and using 75% research certs is ~590k fxp

floral rain
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then it's up to you on whether or not you want to grind another line or grind for the maus

lyric copper
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you want beeg chonky tonk or beeg gun

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but laughing at fools who attempt to pen a dug in maus is hilarious

lethal lark
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121b worth 15k?

floral rain
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no

steep quiver
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Actually yeah

lethal lark
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?

steep quiver
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It's worth 15k

lyric copper
floral rain
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no way it's worth 15k gold

steep quiver
lyric copper
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@steep quiver how so? justify your reasons, as I have done

lethal lark
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for how much would de VK90.01 (p) go for (if it goes for gold)?

steep quiver
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I looked in the offers section and right there shows "The gold dragon 121B" worth 15,000 gold which also contains a garage slot, 9 equipment slots, Invincible Legendary Camouflage, 25 Certificates for x5 XP, and a legendary Berserker's Axe avatar.

floral rain
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especially with WG's offers right now such as the chimera + m4 49 offer for 12k gold you can get some really good tanks for less than 15k gold. Add 5,000 gold on that and you got 20,000 gold for a vk90 or christmas event tank. If you want to play the 12B you can get an stb1 for free in the tech tree

lethal lark
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i got stb already, its my only tier x

floral rain
steep quiver
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Never said it was a good offer

floral rain
lyric copper
lethal lark
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ok, i have 21k gold rn

steep quiver
lyric copper
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consider context @steep quiver

floral rain
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"121b worth 15k?
"no"
"Actually yeah"

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"worth" and "cost" are different things. Yes, 121b costs 15,000 gold in the shop but is it worth 15k gold? imo no

steep quiver
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Worth and cost are very similar things to me so technically I'm the dumb one here. But yeah it's not worth it even though I've never used it. I'm going by your word for now.

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Also wasn't the T28 one of the old tech tree vehicles?

floral rain
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yeah, tier 4 russian medium tank before 5.5

steep quiver
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Yeah I knew it looked familiar to me when I saw it.

lethal lark
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thats the t82 lol

lyric copper
steep quiver
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Honestly the Ox looks like a fun tank, but is it actually for gameplay?

floral rain
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it's pretty much a reskinned type 58 with slightly different stats

lyric copper
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@steep quiver played like a T-34-85 or Type 58

steep quiver
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I've never played either of the tanks but what's the overall message here?

floral rain
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your turret is decently strong, you have higher alpha than most other tier 6 meds, decent mobility

lethal lark
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sorry, but i thought that because te t28 is a tier 8 td usa

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but yes you are right, i should have known because i play this game 6 years already

floral rain
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There's the T34 and the T-34
T28 and the T-28
T29 and T-29
not sure if there's a soviet T30

steep quiver
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So I just need to know if it's worth getting the pass this season because the Ox looks fun, but I don't know if it actually is fun

lyric copper
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T-28 is the Russian tier 4 MT
T28 is the tier 8 US TD

@steep quiver worth the stuff in the BP, tank is meh

floral rain
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gonna be honest i buy battle passes for the 3000 gold lol

steep quiver
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Honestly even though the Icebreaker looked cool last season, it did not look fun at all

lyric copper
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tog

steep quiver
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I'd love to see the M3 Lee. That tank was a fun tank for me back then tbh

clear bobcat
steep quiver
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This right here is something no one is allowed to disagree with.

steep quiver
clear bobcat
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Yeah,

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When i first started playing the game, I thought M3 Lee could shoot through all of its guns LMAO

steep quiver
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Same man

clear bobcat
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Tricksters

steep quiver
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Wait what was that one German TD in t4 or t5

lyric copper
steep quiver
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No no, I believe it was the one after that, the one that got removed

floral rain
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toaster

clear bobcat
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umm

lyric copper
steep quiver
echo lava
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How good is the ox

steep quiver
clear bobcat
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Well, i dont have it but ive seen many people say its like the type 64 or the t 34 85

echo lava
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Yeah

lyric copper
floral rain
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type 64 fast boi
type 58 less fast boi

echo lava
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Just want to know its type of play style

clear bobcat
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and ive watched a youtube video about it and it has proably bettter armour and better alpha

steep quiver
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Also if you're wondering why I asked, I wanted to say it lowkey kinda looks like a PS5

echo lava
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I chose type 64 instead of the other tank that was a medium, was a bit of a mistake cause i focused on speed and not armour and dmg

steep quiver
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You know what I'm gonna make a meme about that real quick hold up

clear bobcat
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oke doke

lyric copper
echo lava
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Tog is like xbox x

clear bobcat
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Yessir

echo lava
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I remember ramming an e 25 with kv2

clear bobcat
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Ho Ri is underrated

echo lava
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It is bro, armour wise, you always need apcr or prem

floral rain
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how the hell is ho-ri underrated

echo lava
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Armour giving it the ability to block hits

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And literally tanking heavies, apcr and tds

hollow moth
echo lava
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Beginners dont think that lol

hollow moth
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Begginers think "hur dur japanese tanks = bad"

steep quiver
echo lava
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Yes lmao, they dont realize the power of pea shooters

lyric oriole
plucky summit
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Skill.

lyric oriole
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VK 72 sucks

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With my damage like that it's all luck

hexed grail
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So OP too

lyric oriole
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Nah, VK 72 is a watered down E 100

hexed grail
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For me no, for me

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OP tank T10 ? Fv215B / WZ 121 / Vickers Light / T110 E5
But it's my opinion.
I don't really like to play T10...

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I prefer T8 with the WZ120 g FT or the T 34 2

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I know, I'm old school ahah
T9 : E75 for sure, with Jag oh yeah, and 🤔 I don't know 😅

solid gate
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It doesn’t though? 1v1s don’t prove much either as player skill is also a factor

floral rain
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Imagine thinking 1v1s are an accurate prediction for anything
Even in a 1v1 you gotta find a pretty stupid E100 player for them to lose against a vk72

hollow notch
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Vk72 is a beast... situationally.

E100 is all around good.

E100 is better most of the time, but it's not as strong as the vk in its ideal situation

late niche
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i have the free xp for it. skip m8a1?

hollow notch
lyric oriole
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Not only that but low tiers aren't worth skipping at all

late niche
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oh
any really good amiercan TDs?

floral rain
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T110e3 at tier 10, T30 at tier 9 is also really good, hellcat at tier 6

glass relic
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T110E3
T30
T25 AT
M18 Hellcat

karmic nymph
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In a 1v1 vk would win sure as seen by the 2v2 tournies but blitz isnt a 1v1.

floral rain
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even in a 1v1 it just devolves to whoever spams more pramo

glass relic
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In a 2v2 mostly VK72 will become a support since mainly the enemy will focus VK72 first cause of it's weakness's since at that tour will resolve on who's gonna kill one guy first can make the match easier.

late niche
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big moment here
m7 or m8a1?

glass relic
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If you want to go through the TD lines then the M8A1, but if you want to go through lines such as MT, LT, and HT then M7

late niche
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

glass relic
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Its pretty much for personal preference, on what tank types you like the most and feel comfortable with.

late niche
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so which tanks are like good to skkip?

glass relic
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T28 prototype
T28

Even though I personally didn't skip both of this tank, instead I grind it out to feel the experience and how it performs

karmic nymph
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Go the heavy line, get the t1 heavy

crystal hare
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Who said blitz is realistic

floral rain
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Even in blitz nobody really goes into facehugs.
A facehugging vk72 vs a facehugging E100 just devolves to whoever pens more heat shells

crystal hare
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Ok good

solid gate
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Who remembers old mastery badge? I miss it so badly

solid gate
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I think Sturmtiger would be almost like Vindicator UM with a 152mm cannon to be very strong

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It would be cool to have Sturmtiger on the wotb...

novel frigate
#

I got the Churchill III in a medium crate today, any tips on it at all? Just play it like a normal tier V heavy?

solid gate
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Your going to have to push into Enemy lines with the Churchill 3

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I'm not sure

novel frigate
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Do I use the first or second canon on it?

solid gate
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The big one

novel frigate
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Ok, thanks

tulip sail
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The strum is already in the game in a way but I doubt it would fit as a playable tank

brave night
floral rain
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Doesn't even show that. I can get really lucky and have the enemy choke all of their shots. Still doesn't prove I'm good at 1v1s

brave night
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ez

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it shows how many 1v1s u win

floral rain
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Unless you keep track 1v1s don't show how many you win lol

brave night
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it shows that u are 1v1ing

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it shows ur in a battle

floral rain
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Nah bro I'm actually just thinking of hypothetical blitz situations in my mind

brave night
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lol

tulip sundial
solid gate
tulip sundial
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But there was no variant of the sturm that had a 155

crystal hare
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Wouldn’t even fit in tier 10

tulip sundial
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It wouldn’t even be fair if it fought MBT’s

crystal hare
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380mm is just too big

tulip sundial
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380 is bigger than destroyers have... that’s like battleship levels of mm

solid gate
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Warhammer is known for being insanely in proportionate in scale

tulip sundial
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Well, in the 40k universe, the Demolisher cannon doesn’t even have an exact caliber

floral rain
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^ 300mm is like the best estimate

tulip sundial
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Large enough to be called the demolisher

solid gate
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None of the guns have an exact caliber (except bolter) even then it’s still sketchy since there’s a number of heavier bolter variants

tulip sundial
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But then again, we’re talking about a universe where people have extra organs

solid gate
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Out of all the wild things in the universe you say that

solid gate
floral rain
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Idk bruh I dont want another copy-paste 152mm gun on a different tank

tulip sundial
solid gate
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Because no one wants another derp at tier 7 or 8 (nurgles the most peaceful of the chaos gods though)

tulip sundial
#

I think a version of the Land Raider would be a cool new tank from 40k

solid gate
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Everyone? Last one they did broke the tier

floral rain
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Considering the garbage that is the vindicator and the hell that is the smasher I'd say quite a few don't want another 152mm

tulip sundial
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Vinid does nothing but look cool

solid gate
tulip sundial
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It would be, but the closest we’re going to get (for good reasons) is the one that’s an Easter egg

solid gate
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should have put him in the place of Vindicator UM

floral rain
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Blitz can do what wot pc did and added sturmtiger as a separate event

solid gate
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I very much doubt

fast compass
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Well we don't really get pc gamemodes so yeah. Sturmtiger gamemode was stupid but fun tho.

floral rain
#

duck tank noises

brave night
solid gate
#

most battleships were equipped with 380mm guns before the iowa class came along with the 406mm guns and the yamato class appeared, packing 460mm

floral rain
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technically yamato had 457mm/460mm 18" guns
15 inches: 380mm (German caliber)
16 inches: 406mm (USA and Japan)
18 inches: 457mm (Britain but mostly Japan)

solid gate
#

darn metric system

brave night
#

There were a lot of 14 inch guns as well

solid gate
#

bruh with the yamato class ships the japanese were just like "more guns = more death"

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that thing had so many guns on it half the hull was probably reserved for ammunition and powder

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It did have the most AA batteries of any battle ship but didn’t do much against a whole fleet of carriers

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carriers, the navy's artillery

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and then long range missiles were invented rendering most stuff obsolete

rip BB boat era

brave night
#

The AA is useless when two carriers planes are focusing you

glass relic
#

Why do I feel like the 268 has more flexibility than the Foch155, even though Foch has superior mobility, but when I play the tank it felt uncomfortable than what I experience with 268.

fast compass
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The gun makes the difference, more gun arc and stuff. Foch has a more dedicated role of flanking and spanking at close range i suppose. Still a ways away from 268 so I can't really comment on it

glass relic
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Yeah the 7° on 268 is way comfortable than the Foch and the gun is placed near the top of the casemate, making ridge poking easier, prob what makes me feel uncomfortable in the Foch.

tulip sundial
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With the Foch, I stay mid range until the enemy is alone or distracted, then it’s banzai time

somber hawk
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i do the same with amx ac 46 and higher

somber hawk
#

yesterday i got 3 kills on amx ac 46 and all kills were tier 8

sweet mural
#

Does T95E2 suck

floral rain
#

Yeah

solid gate
#

Blitz needs The Fighting Girlfriend, a T-34-85 commanded by a woman to avenge her husband in ww2.

clever badger
#

Mariya Oktyabrskaya??

solid gate
clever badger
#

Wasn't she just the driver? not the commander?

somber hawk
#

any tips for playing french tds?

twin cradle
#

Always from front

hard haven
#

Guys wich is better M4A1 Revalorise or Chimera?

sterile grove
#

Because this is a medium tank I'm confused about whether to buy it or not, because I'm a heavy tank user and prefer to fight on the front lines rather than just being support.

untold trench
#

Collect for M6 exp

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Epic front , bad sides armor also good gun

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T95E2 doesnt seem to good i kill it with T26E4 and prog 46 very easily

rigid condor
fluid parrot
hard haven
#

Is chimera better than M4A1 revalorise

tulip sail
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@hard haven the rev is more versatile

glass relic
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But Chimera is a better choice as it still have speed to maneuver, and more armoured than the Rev, while also doing it's job the same but more punchier, not to mention its way forgiving to use

untold trench
#

Watch out the turret of chimera is pretty flat so some can pen thru ur turret. Chimera mantlet still good tho

gentle wasp
tulip sail
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The rev has a higher dpm at 438 more than the chimera with almost the same pen as well as worse gun handling so while the chimera has a lower floor id say the rev probably has a higher ceiling

lyric oriole
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I dunno, the pen matters a lot and the Chimera has plenty more pen over the Rev

Also when it comes to difference in Accuracy to be honest the Chimera has a much better gun because that's a very miniscule difference when comparing the calibers for tank type and tier

📎 Screenshot_20210203-101210.png
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Not to mention there is the accuracy consumable for Chimera and the Damage reduction one making it many more times more flexible than Rev

tulip sail
#

The rev only has 18mm less of pen and while ill agree with the consumables being better you still have to choose between a repair consumable and one or both of those consumables

lyric oriole
#

But when it comes to flexibility you have a choice unlike Rev

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You can also increase the HP at the cost of performance

#

In a heavy meta the higher alpha tank will also fair better

tulip sail
lyric oriole
#

It's the other way around how I have it pulled up but that's it

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Another issue is Rev has worse camo, it's a lightly armored tank that has DPM and that's about it

#

You can actually conceal yourself in a chimera much more effectively

sweet mural
#

Is the super pershing good?

gentle wasp
#

no, it's complete garbage

lyric oriole
#

No

sweet mural
#

Good to know

lyric oriole
#

It's the concept of if you could make everything bad on a medium tank in performance but good on paper

tulip sail
#

It sucks but I somehow get lucky in it

gentle wasp
#

nubs get the best rng

tulip sail
#

Fight me

gentle wasp
#

when and where pal

tulip sail
#

You know where

lyric oriole
sweet mural
#

What about löwe

solid gate
sweet mural
#

Just yes

calm drumBOT
#

dynoSuccess Cabal on Mars#6287 has been warned.

gentle wasp
lyric oriole
#

Also lowe is meh

#

It works

sweet mural
#

T34?
The american premium

solid gate
#

Sorry bout that mayo

gentle wasp
#

T34 is solid, highly recommended.

solid gate
#

is the t32 much of an improvement over the T29 or is this another T1 Heavy to M6 ordeal

lyric oriole
gentle wasp
lyric oriole
#

T32 is still good but not a beginner-novice friendly tank

tulip sail
#

The t32 is as good as one is at the game

solid gate
#

Guess I'll use the T29 as a crash course in proper american heavy tanking, because at the moment the only heavys I've run (excluding the heavium T1 and M6) are the KV series

thick trout
#

T29 is awful for learning in because it doesn't punish you for any mistakes

gentle wasp
#

oh, you want to sit out in the open? that sucks, you have reactive, stupid armor, and tons of HP. nothing to worry about.

lyric oriole
#

T29 used to be a good crash course tank on american heavy playstyle

silver mortar
#

lttb or dracula ?

lyric oriole
#

Drac

silver mortar
#

why ?

lyric oriole
#

LTTB has meh dpm, poor Gun depression, and normal track repair time

silver mortar
#

lttb has better dpm than drac, (even with second gun with 8 depression), better top speed and turn speed, better armor

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idk why people think drac is way better than lttb while it's almost the opposite

lyric oriole
#

Drac in performance is much better than LTTB

silver mortar
#

much ?

lyric oriole
#

Much

silver mortar
#

it only has better depression, 250 more hp, a bit better pen and coefficient

lyric oriole
#

And spaced armor

gentle wasp
#

alpha and pen

lyric oriole
#

And instant repair tracks

#

LTTB throws too many points into defense where it really doesn't do much of anything

scarlet echo
#

how do i kill people that are lower than my gun depression in the su 100y?

tulip sail
#

Push them up a hill

scarlet echo
#

i tried and it didnt work

floral rain
#

you generally don't want to push on hulldown tanks up close

glass relic
#

Just got a Kranbang and had myself a pretty solid first impression of being a ridge line fighter that can be a breakthrough tank, and the battle went out pretty unusual since i ended up only dealing 2k with 4k spotting damage.

Second impression brings up something that i never experience before which is a solid frontline fighter, it's so funny when people tried to poke a shot to me when I was looking away, just to see my turret facing them making them forced to retreat.

Then third impression got me good, giving me the Kranbang vibe of being prioritized by enemy TD then reminded me of how useful a DPM can be but it worked out, the enemy tend to focus on my teammates because they couldn't do anything to my turret then the gun somehow feels way nicer than i thought it would be.

Side note: I feel sad for Emil II got it's accuracy the need of a wheel chair.

fast compass
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Could you guide this lost soul? Like my first impressions were solid, 3k with 88% winrate at about 12 games.

Then I played 20 today with just 20% wr and 2.5k avg. Probably was on tilt but definitely need help.

glass relic
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Oh my that's a pretty bad downfall, sadly i too need a guidance 🥲

devout prism
#

What does kranbang mean tho

fast compass
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Lol yeah. Not sure what went wrong. Probably wasn't trying to take too many shots, as i did notice my team disappearing pretty quickly. Will give it another try tomorrow

Kranbang = Kranvagn

floral rain
#

ikea wagon

bitter jacinth
#

Is the exp fun to drive?

wooden crater
#

everyone knows where its weakspots are now since it was given away for free a while ago
good armor frontally and decent turret, but with fairly large and weak cheeks
and HE-able sides

tulip sail
#

Its still fun in realistic and gravity but I dont recommend getting it, there isn't much it can do others can't

bitter jacinth
#

Thanks

strange thicket
#

wait for the T34, it is better

late niche
#

kv 4 good?

bright sentinel
#

Does anyone know what's going to be in the shop pretty soon?

tulip sail
#

Its not announced a head of time

austere hare
#

do i free xp grind st-1 gun?

tulip sail
#

Id free xp all the modules

sudden ravine
#

Just got the is4, it's tier X on easy mode

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Glad i free xp'd my way to it

wooden crater
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kv3 and 4 are controversial round here, but you definitely didn't need to fxp the st1. st1 does quite well in t9

lyric copper
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@wooden crater stock ST-1

undone yew
#

rammer or cs for the wz 113

lyric copper
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CS for comp, GR for casual I guess

brave night
#

hmmm in comp tho your using it for dpm so you can use rammer

sudden ravine
#

Cs or gun rammer on is4?

plucky summit
#

Rammer

turbid thunder
#

Ngl Emil 1 is kinda broken

spark goblet
#

Some times yeah

solid gate
plucky summit
#

Bathtub is really good :p

undone yew
#

only downside is armor

glass relic
#

Its downside is just the weird gun arc

brave garnet
solid gate
agile prawn
#

There was an event where you could get the exp for free

solid gate
#

Oh god I missed it! Gonna kill myself real quick

neat nimbus
#

should i buy the amx 13 90?

narrow garnet
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Yea

keen garnet
#

Yup, BC line is quite good if you know how to play

narrow garnet
#

And the bat-chat just got a buff

keen garnet
#

Ye, it feels much better with the 2.8s intraclip

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Also, it means that you can outshoot tanks with 3s intraclip, they will get 2 shells into you, you will put 2 in them
0.4s is enough time to hide if you are poking out

narrow garnet
#

Can we send vehicles that should be put in the game here because i have alot of ideas

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???

glass relic
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I haven't touched my BC line tonks, i might touch them again but feel bored, of it's sneaky playstyle.

brave night
#

Bat chat is amazing and loved the grind

solid gate
narrow garnet
#

What do you guys want to see in the game?

agile prawn
#

MS-1

twin cradle
#

Old tech tree before 5.5

lethal lark
#

5.5 reversed

somber hawk
distant nymph
#

with a small autloader, like a 2 or 3 shot one like on PC Maybe also a full on polish heavy line from tier 4-10

somber hawk
#

im ok with LT vz. 35 aka Pz. 35 (t) in german tech tree as it was used by panzerwaffe but wtf does LT vz. 38 in chinese tech tree

distant nymph
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china never used either vz.38 or pz.38t

austere minnow
#

The Sheridan. That can shoot missiles, shells. That must be the project of the ATGM. Great and accurate. The Sheridan has the same hull from XM551. As the blitz too. As we customize the Sheridan into the missile, as the farewell of the ATGMs was totally good, the update 7.5. when it was replaced the ATGM into HEAT shells, so the missile has come into the customization collectors. The Sheridan Missile has come, when it can't enter regular, rating, or even skirmish. These missiles are to be used as a training rooms. And the story that is how I managed.

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The special modes are available from the ATGMs.

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Idk maybe...

sturdy bane
#

it takes 0.8 for the reticle to be a third of its size, not fully shrunk

twin cradle
#

Very good

sweet mural
#

What is a good credit grinder T8-?

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Can be premium aswell, but rn i have only 7.5k gold so preferably tech tree

novel frigate
#

The Lowë is a nice T8 premium also I think theres a bundle of 2 teir 8 premiums in the shop rn if you want to check those out.

royal schooner
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just get the lowe

clever badger
#

Gon wait for them to offer a techtree tank on salw like what they did with the SU-100Y

novel frigate
#

The SU-100Y deal was insanely worth it, sadly I'm a F2P player and didnr have any gold for it );

candid harbor
rigid condor
#

but not on EU today lol

candid harbor
#

yea, my post didn't age well
xd

lyric copper
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:pepehands:

novel frigate
#

Yeah but I had spent my gold converting elite xp to free xp to research my Emil

glass relic
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That's the one of the mistakes you made, do not waste gold for Fxp, you could've save the gold up for a premium vehicle.

terse oar
#

i free xp is4

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😎

brazen tangle
#

M6 exp weakspots on front?

agile prawn
#

Sides of turret

neat nimbus
#

I want see into the game more maps based on locations during ww2, is cool have not historical maps but...

brazen tangle
#

Cool thanks

solid gate
#

@solid gate yes especially that of VK 168. But of Tiger 2......

Hmmmm

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i dont see the czechoslovakia tanks

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where is czech tanks?

twin cradle
#

Soon @solid gate

clever badger
lyric copper
#

@clever badger ads breaking the game on android on EU it seems

rigid condor
polar slate
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how do i play the type 58?

balmy mesa
#

Emil 2 or E75 which one should i buy

brave night
lethal lark
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is-5 worth it?

wooden crater
solid gate
floral rain
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heat magnet 2

brazen tangle
# balmy mesa Emil 2 or E75 which one should i buy

Not sure about e75 but emil2 is a hard tank to play, since its armor is easy to pen for other tier 9s, unlike emil on t8 and kran on t10. You get some bounces but if you make a bad move youre basically dead because of its slow mobility

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It also has the same kranvagn gun but slower reload, its literally a worse kran, but it will prepare u for it

glass relic
signal wedge
#

How does E75 stand up to prammo?

signal wedge
tender knoll
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lol 15km

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max speed HAHAHHA

tepid geyser
#

I have been summoned?

signal wedge
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rofl

candid harbor
wooden crater
candid harbor
#

yea, i used to do that too with bluestacks

novel frigate
#

Opinions on Emil II I hear its worse than the Emil I any tips on it?

glass relic
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And also don't feel confident about facing other HTs without you being Obi Wan.

But the turret armor can absolutely bully T8 tanks except TDs prammo

brave night
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I loved the tank and I feel like it’s more fun to play than t8 so use the gun to your advantage

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So don’t sit in front of enemies and use your amazing gun

glass relic
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The gun isn't that amazing beside it's auto reloading mechanics

brave night
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Well 1200 clip against t8 and 9

glass relic
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50 120 can do the same.

But if you going to use the burst then you're sacraficing your DPM if you didn't use it rightly, i only use the burst potential to kill of my targets rather than for damage.

brave night
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Auto reloader size and armor

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You do know the first shell has the most dpm

floral rain
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emil 2 doesn't have a lot of armor lol
it does have more gun depression so easier to use

glass relic
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Yeah that's why I don't use the burst that often mostly just to clip enemy off, if I'm forced to do so before they either get away or can be killed with my clip.

brave night
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First shell has most dpm so always burst

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If u want to maximize

glass relic
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I love the fact Kranbang second shell has the most dpm

Uh you couldn't call it a burst if you didn't dump all of your clip tho. Basically you're using it as a normal gun, burst meaning 3x400

brave night
plucky summit
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... And?

glass relic
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Kranbang does not 😐

brave night
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I can show u

plucky summit
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You're not wrong, but neither are they

floral rain
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except you're doing 400 damage every 10? seconds

plucky summit
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@floral rain BH says 8.61s with vents on 2nd shell

+3.53 interclip

Yes, vents, I don't use autoloader tanks too often :p

glass relic
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Venti you mean

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If you use vents you'd be sus

floral rain
#

wait emil 2 has a 3.5 second intraclip? i thought it was 3

brave night
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Vents... on Emil 2

plucky summit
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No this is Kranvagn

brave night
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Same thing

glass relic
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Kranbang, even without the vents the dpm is still nicer than doing all out burst Everytime you saw an enemy.

I mean who would use vents on autoloaders and reloaders in the first place

floral rain
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oh yeah the kran does get a faster reload on its second shell compared to the third

brave night
plucky summit
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Yes but for Emil II both 2nd and 3rd is 9.52s with 3.53s interclip

I used vents on the whole rest of the line ._.

brave night
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I bursted and then used by abysmal dpm to finish them off

glass relic
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Lol, i never used vents because the buff already got covered by double food and the extra pen is juicy enough for a gun with lack of dpm

plucky summit
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Then pen would be nice if I wasn't already capable of penning anyways :p

floral rain
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that sounds like a terrible idea but i only have the prog 65 as an autoreloader and even then i'm not that good in it

brave night
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I mean I have played every tech tree autoreloader in the game

plucky summit
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Oh dang M4/FL 10, lol

glass relic
brave night
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Also prog 46

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Been working out for me

floral rain
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idk going for a burst and then using single shot to finish someone off sounds like a huge waste of time

brave night
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I mean u can do what u want but stats don’t lie

plucky summit
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I use the most pro-active strategy, I dump then hide defensively until my gun can either finish off a target or burst again

brave night
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I’m not the best player but it’s been working out for me

glass relic
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Burst clip potential is good to finish off targets or passive plays, but i went for aggressive so manual single shot to maximize my dpm is good enough, and using my burst potential to finish off a target.

Not to mention it can caught some headless players off guard if they thought I have no rounds in my clip.

brave night
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The last shell has the second worst dpm so your maximizing nothing

glass relic
brave night
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U legit said u would use your clip and how is it to burst with 1 shell in the magazine

glass relic
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I would to use it for finishing my targets off or dumping all my damage output before go hide and read a book.

brave night
#

But you have only one shell in the mag where is the bursting

glass relic
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If the context is i only have 1 clip then i would wait for it to reload, but the context is that i still have my clip full because it's the start of the battle and i just arrived at my position.

brave night
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Ok but then your not using your max dpm

floral rain
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max dpm is firing the first shell (10.9 second reload with vents) over and over again. Even then you only get 2200 dpm along with the addition of not utilizing the autoreloading mechanic

brave night
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Did u not here the part where I said I dump my clip into my enemies b4 going in

glass relic
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Then if so you're left with the last shell that has the worst DPM, unless you waited to reload the clip.

brave night
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No

floral rain
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that's 2000 DPM except you are now stuck on reload for at least the next 11 seconds

brave night
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the first shell u load has the most dpm

glass relic
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I feel like you don't understand what you're saying.

brave night
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the very first shell going into your mag has the most dpm

glass relic
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I give up 😅 idk what to say anymore..

floral rain
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First shell: first shell reloaded, last shell fired
second shell
Third shell: Last shell reloaded, first shell fired

brave night
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Here is an example the prog 46 has a 7.5 sec reload on the third shell but a 6.4 on the first

plucky summit
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For Kranvagn keeping on the second shell allows most DPM

glass relic
plucky summit
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Ok I wanna make sure we're on the same tank, what tank are we arguing about xD

glass relic
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Kranbang 😂

brave night
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First shell has the most dpm even on kran

plucky summit
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Nope.

floral rain
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blitz calls first, second, and third shells in the order that they are reloaded. First shell is the one you reload right at the start and does not have an intraclip reload. Second shell is the second shell, and the third shell is the third shell reloaded

brave night
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8.63 plus 3.53 vs 10.93

glass relic
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Nope you should do your own research first before saying that

floral rain
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actually no, Kran's third shell reload is 9.1 seconds

brave night
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You don’t have an interclip on your first shell on single fire

fast compass
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Wait, when clip is depleted is it the 10.88 second shell that loads or the 9.1

plucky summit
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I don't even wanna get into the mechanics, I wanna just try to swim and waddle with an FT AC

floral rain
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the 10.88 second is the first shell when depleted

brave night
#
  1. Something on second bc of interclip
fast compass
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In either case. When your clip is empty there is no intraclip just direct load

plucky summit
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For me it's 11.02 on first shell, for me

floral rain
#

probably because you run calibrated

brave night
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Precisely which makes your dpm better lol

fast compass
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So with 3.57 sec intraclip the tank will have more dpm when empty. That being said i prefer Keeping my clip full until i can clip out.(then again i am struggling in kran currently)

floral rain
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except 1) it's better by like 1 second and 2) you no longer have any shells in the clip. Have fun fighting with an 11 second reload for 400 alpha

brave night
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This is after you dumped 1200 into them u realize XD

plucky summit
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Yeah but they mean after you dumped, if you keep running off of the first shell there's not a really good counter for anyone that rushes you like a clip

floral rain
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it takes 35.9 seconds for the kran to go from full to empty to full again

brave night
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Yes but once you clip someone u dpm and get out the fight and reload LOL

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Or use the turret in the mean time

fast compass
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It would be 29 seconds since you don't count intraclip unless you shoot

floral rain
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tbh this is what i do in the prog but i mainly just only fire the third shell. i'll take the slight dpm hit in exchange for having 2 shells if someone decides to rush me or if i need to secure a kill

plucky summit
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@fast compass they did mention emptying the clip, aka firing

bok bok :D

fast compass
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Ah ok

brave night
#

I just rush do 1050 and then take 2 more shots to kill them

plucky summit
#

Plot twist: It's a VK

brave night
fast compass
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No from full to empty is 7 seconds. + 29 seconds for the 3 shells to load again

plucky summit
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It's 35.98s for my Kranvagn on vents

brave night
fast compass
#

Now imagine if we had the compensation mechanic which Italian heavies have

plucky summit
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Oh god.

brave night
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Wouldn’t change much

floral rain
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nah it changes quite a bit

brave night
#

After 22k games of wot pc I have an idea

floral rain
#

except on blitz saving half of your reload is huge

plucky summit
#

Ignore that Italian heavies just came out with that mechanic?

neat nimbus
#

is worth the amx 13 90

brave night
#

Yes

plucky summit
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AMX 13 90s are deadly with two in a toon, get a bud and clip them into fear

floral rain
#

tbh tvp's are going to be really fun in platoons and that's probably going to be it

brave night
#

The line looks great other than VTU

plucky summit
floral rain
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skipping the t 34 100 and vtu tbh

brave night
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34 100 is good tho

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I’m skipping t6 and 8

plucky summit
#

Just another tank to bully in my ISU-152

brave night
#

I hate ISU

glass relic
#

34-100 looks neat.

fast compass
#

I might just play the t25 because i don't have a strv74a2.

plucky summit
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I have loads of fun in my ISU :p

brave night
#

I prefer su or smasher

plucky summit
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I love my SU too

glass relic
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Love derp

floral rain
#

skoda t 25 looks fun tbh

plucky summit
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Dispersion, gun, and speed look very good, much better than the trashcan T-25

Rip pen tho

fast compass
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I have my eyes on the skoda t50. Seems pretty nice. Mobility, pen, gun handling.

floral rain
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yeah, im probably going to start grinding at the skoda

neat nimbus
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boi if i get top engine and tracks no even smasher would dare to oppsose me

glass relic
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I just want to get the 34-100 because of it's funny looks and good alpha with pretty mediocre mobility

floral rain
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except i did a few calculations and it's going to leave me with 20k free xp and im starting the anime medium grind tomorrorw

fast compass
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Oh you need free xp for that, i assure you

neat nimbus
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i grind exp in amx 13 90

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smart move from wg to buff the amx 13 90

fast compass
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Now give it one more shell. Keep the 15 second reload. Lol jk. Although i would love having 225x4

floral rain
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give it like a 20 second reload

neat nimbus
#

i would like if they choosen the ru 251 as a defender

distant nymph
#

I think T-34-100 competes directly with T-34-1 and Leo. Although I think it's worse than both sadly. Still I like that playstyle and will prolly enjoy it

glass relic
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Yeah it might be worse because leo and 34-1 has their own uniqueness the 34-1 has turret and leo has trolly three with gun dep and annoying sloped frontal armor.

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But probably the 34-100 combine both vehicle characteristics into one.

distant nymph
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not sure

fast compass
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Like t-34-1 it has paper hull. But it doesn't exactly have a strong turret. Shells will go through the mantlet (140mm ap pen needed).

distant nymph
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it will prolly be a t-34-1 without armor

distant nymph
fast compass
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Yeah i was talking about tbe 34-100 turret. 34-1 turret is fantastic

floral rain
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Virgin T-34 turret vs the chad hemisphere turret

glass relic
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T-34-100 turret is like those mutated jaw sickness thing where it becomes bigger.

solid gate
#

How do I play with tiger II?

floral rain
#

Angle against tier 8s and lower, go for the top gun as fast as possible. Keep in mind that most tier 9 players know how to pen your armor so don't expose yourself for too long

spring sapphire
#

Let’s sort the IS3 Defender out. It seems to be worst every time I play it. Every tech tree tank can kick its ass. I might of done better sticking to the standard IS3. IS3 Defender does not deserve to be a premium tank any more. It’s never been tweaked. Rant over...

karmic nymph
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It’s been powercrept

fossil parcel
#

Is it a gud thng if ill suggest tht the bar flat armor at front vk 72k got buff to 300 mm since thts the weakspot even angling it

glass relic
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Its already quite hard to pen tho, and not to mention it doesn't have a weak lower plate so that bar serves as a substitute, even then most of the time people hardly ever aim there mostly your cheeks and the pimples on your sides.

solid gate
zinc laurel
#

is there somebody who speaks fluently english?

woven cradle
fast compass
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Maybe they need the bri'ish accent

lost meadow
#

If I had to compare Czech tanks to another tech tree, the French heavy line is probably what I’d compare it to

urban trail
#

for a tank that does frequent drive-bys such as the batchat line, is refined gun more suitable than vert stabs? the stats are as follows(assuming that gun laying drive is used): vert stabs- 2.5s AT, .319m disp; refined gun- 2.7s AT, .287m disp

silver mortar
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skipping t6 is not a good idea, it is the reference of autoloader on pc, if u are not confortable with t6 don't go further in the line it would be a waste or time and free xp (if u have everytank in the game why not)

urban trail
plucky summit
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@shadow stream very interested to see examples, you can give them here for cooldown's sake

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Also for the one you put in balance discussion, IS-4's plate you referred to is 75mm

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Auto-bounce. Any others?

shadow stream
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Hmm it seems I still remember PC IS-4 model and not blitz. xd

plucky summit
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Yup, just like IS-3's turret roof was buffed in Blitz to resist shells

shadow stream
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I guess you are right. I know that EXP can be penned with almost anything when you shoot sides.

But sides are 41mm so that times 3 is more then 122 but that caliber still penns it no matter what.

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I guess 3 caliber rule exists but everything was buffed so there's nothing to shoot with that caillber law eh.

plucky summit
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Yeah, the overmatch on the bottom-facing side plates above the tracks is there, and often the side gets overangled so they could work their shells into it. But the overmatch rule is very prominent, especially when an IS-4 sidescrapes against a 152mm+ gun, it can be overmatched

shadow stream
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Ah I see you mean the bottom part plate. That's so cheeky but it's kind of unfair huh. It's there for no other reason then to weaken the tank.

plucky summit
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I've abused the Tiger's too, 25mm overmatched by any remotely large cannon, they think they're gods when they sidescrape but I got the lower leverage on them, hilarious to see them cry

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Well, Tiger P is 25mm, Tiger I is 28mm

shadow stream
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so the armor above the tracks.

plucky summit
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Indeed

shadow stream
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I usually just shoot above the mantlet.

plucky summit
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I tend not to risk it, especially when I'm at that lower leverage, the angle is too much to be able to hit, let alone reliably, so I hit the only weakspot that was there

shadow stream
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Well when you are below ofc just shoot at the tracks if they got armor above it. That's works with every tank that has armor there not just tiger.

plucky summit
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Many tend to have enough to keep the 3 cal rule in check, so I find other ways to ruin it, and if I give up, I just HE the deck

shadow stream
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If you can see the deck then shooting gold at lower plate is better :3

plucky summit
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I mean the deck at the rear of their tank, and firing APCR vs AP doesn't work, still auto-bounces, HEAT vs AP would lose the fight against the tracks

shadow stream
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I got it kind sir I deffenetly didn't do it to poor EXP and Foch drivers ah no no.

tender knoll
#

is american t34 good?

plucky summit
#

Yes

tender knoll
lapis jetty
#

Is Maus getting buffed in 7.7?

acoustic ginkgo
glass relic
#

It'll have more THICCer mantlet

soft tiger
#

Why is there a Russian Matilda? I thought they were only British. Did England give some to the U.S.S.R? Ngl though, it’s probably an amazing tier 5 tank. 😏

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urban radish
soft tiger
#

Oh ok, cool!

regal void
#

hey can we trade/

rugged meadow
#

For the T-34 (Tier 5), should I get the '57mm ZiS-4' or the '76mm S-54'?

somber hawk
#

Annihilator needs a nerf it ruins whole tier VI-VIII matchmaking

candid harbor
rugged meadow
#

ok, thanks

sweet pulsar
neat nimbus
#

I wish they put the flamethrower attachment cuz boi that looks awesome

soft hatch
#

Could they nerf the Annihilator it ruins the entire VI-VIII

tulip sail
#

The anni isn't that bad in t8 it fairs good but won't win if played like its a tier7 game

solid gate
#

Anni becomes fairly weak in tier 8 because of the heavy meta

still fossil
#

Did icebreaker is a good tank?

rapid coyote
#

Icebreaker is meh

brazen tangle
#

Should i do sheridan line or vickers line? Both seem fun tier by tier

solid gate
#

Vickers has combat capability

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Sheri line is Hit and run @brazen tangle

brazen tangle
#

True, thnx

supple bolt
#

Does anyone know if foch is worth it?

solid gate
#

@supple bolt Only worth it in Mad Games

strange thicket
rugged meadow
#

which gun is better on the KV-1?

supple bolt
strange thicket
pallid wagon
#

Anyone have any tips for the t92e1? I just got it, I did really well with the t49 but i'm having trouble with the t92e1.

plucky summit
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It's more or less a T49 ._.

strange thicket
#

it is literally a t49 but less HE-able, has a better round, smaller, better gun handling.

brave night
#

and actual pen

topaz haven
#

AMX 50B OP
Hands down

radiant zephyr
#

if the kran is gonna have the mobility and dpm problem, give it the 440 alpha it has on wot pc

brave night
#

dpm: clip mobilty: it's a heavy with super sped boost and impenetrable turret

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no need for buff

radiant zephyr
#

clip is cool and all but 30 seconds to reload all 3 idk

brave night
#

ok and? u dont need dpm, plus u can single shot

fading merlin
#

Should I buy the fv 201 tank in the shop which is on sale? I have 2600 gold and it costs 2500

solid gate
#

Can we start a petition to give the 183 grille camo

hushed shadow
#

No

devout prism
#

@fading merlin i have it its pretty good i like it are u good playing the panther if u are then it should be good for u

fading merlin
#

I never played the panther but, I have gud experience with medium tanks

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Alright ill buy it

signal wedge
#

Just finished upgrading arl, you guys were right, it’s really good.

#

3 battles with ~2k damage in a row.

brave night
#

Not surprising

signal wedge
#

Any tips on keeping enemies from penning turret?

plucky summit
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Wiggle the gun, mantlet saves you a few shells

signal wedge
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Traverse is a bit slow for wiggling though. Maybe off angle hull and go for’ard and back?

plucky summit
#

Basically dance, make the hull also turn the same way as your turret so the turret effectively turns faster

signal wedge
#

Yeah that might work...

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Also, is side-scraping a good way to use it, or should you just drive out at an angle?

plucky summit
#

Nah, it's supposed to be a heavy brawler, sidescraping is decent if they don't know the easy weakspots

signal wedge
#

Alright... I’ve noticed it has a very accurate gun, is playing to that a viable option sometimes?

sharp phoenix
#

Yo

plucky summit
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ARL 44 is mostly about the gun, the armor just supports the brawling role it has, can really bully inaccurate / low pen guns

sharp phoenix
#

You want too play

signal wedge
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Ah. So, sort of like a T1 that has an op gun.

floral rain
#

you want to keep in mind that people can pen straight through your tracks. Not a lot of people know but if you do come up against somebody that knows weakspots the best thing you can do is to poke them instead of relying on armor

signal wedge
#

Huh. That has worked for me a couple times. Likely because of the good reload.

floral rain
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overall rely more on your gun than your armor. you have pretty much the best non-td gun for tier 6 and possibly even tier 7