#vehicles-discussion

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signal wedge
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And therefore?

brave night
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How does that even make sense

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I have completed the light line and am almost done with the heavy line. I feel like I know a thing or two

solid gate
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lots of people have gottento higher tanks with bad tanks, doesn't make them any good bruh

brave night
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I have played them and they are good

tulip sail
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There good if used correctly just like all other tanks

dire topaz
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Good but not op

brave night
solid gate
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I have played them too and I think they are not good, they are nothing, even Japanese tanks are better

dire topaz
brave night
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You just said you played the t7 and said it was garbage

signal wedge
dire topaz
brave night
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I really enjoyed it. Love the hit and run stuff

signal wedge
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Yeah, that's what got me interested.

brave night
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Tho the 13 90 lacked in dpm. But it was really only that tank

solid gate
brave night
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Wow now the guy is a jerk

solid gate
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after all the explanation, these kids just don't listen ugh

brave night
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Maybe you don’t listen to what we say

dire topaz
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Yup , i don't like listening

signal wedge
tulip sail
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You discuss things civilly

brave night
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About the great gun, above average mobility

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Are you sure your not stock?

tulip sail
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You can also use stats instead of more flimsy personal experience

brave night
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The 50 100 has 232 pen around 2100 dpm and 20 sec reload with 6 sec interclip for 930 dmg

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The amx m4 45 and the arl 44 have 212 standard pen one with like a 6.4 sec reload and the t7 with 5.6

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The 50b and 120 have like 258 base pen with 340 heat and great dpm

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I count these as great guns

signal wedge
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2100 dpm isn't the best, but I guess that's to be expected in an autoloader.

brave night
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For a t8 autoloader it’s very good (considering the Emil has like 1900)

dire topaz
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Is like 960 dmg in a full clip
Or something like that

brave night
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Emil 1 does 960 so 3x320 the 50 100 does 3x310

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Gets like a spot on 20 sec reload

dire topaz
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50 100 have mobility , Emil have armor

signal wedge
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You're really looking for clip damage and unload speed in an autoloader. And according to the stats, the Frenchies have that.

brave night
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Yeah the 50 100 has 20 p/w ratio with 45 top speed and 20 reverse (maxed out)

signal wedge
brave night
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Yes also 50 turn rate also maxed out

signal wedge
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50deg/s?!?

dire topaz
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I think yes , It Is a heavium kinda of tank

signal wedge
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Yeah, but I think even some decently mobile light tanks don't have 50 deg/s...

dire topaz
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I dunno i'll check

solid gate
brave night
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We aren’t. You just shrug off any reasoning as some dumb crap a kid made up.

dire topaz
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It Is 50 deg/s
Sort of

brave night
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I mean with provisions and crew skills mine is 55

signal wedge
brave night
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I run improved fuel and double food

solid gate
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I have more experience in the game but you can't accept the truth and keep arguing...I want to discuss with civilised people not two cavemen

brave night
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Tell me how 212 pen at t7 is bad please explain go ahead.

dire topaz
signal wedge
solid gate
brave night
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We are just giving proof about why they are good

tepid geyser
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🍿

brave night
dire topaz
solid gate
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I'm giving proof of why they are bad and you think they are good but I know more about tanks so I don't understand the issue

signal wedge
brave night
tepid geyser
solid gate
brave night
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I mean I don’t care about experience when you say the French tanks have bad pen and I say 212 at t6 and 7 is exceptional and 232 at t8 is also really good

dire topaz
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He Just don't like the french line

brave night
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Along with the 260 at t9 and 10 is great

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You have yet to answer how that is bad pen

solid gate
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how come I've played with it and never did dmg, its clearly bad bruh, I've been playing blitz since it came out you silly goose

brave night
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Maybe because you got nuked Bc you got caught out in a bad position that you should’ve never gone to

dire topaz
brave night
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Trust me it’s happened to me where I was spotted out of position and died. So I learned my lesson and changed the way I played

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For most people on the French line it’s just that they aren’t playing it correctly, like a lot of tanks. It’s not like I can play every tank.

signal wedge
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In my experience, there are some vehicles that seem trash to me. For most of them, it was me playing them wrong. You can get results, but it might be against your play style.

dire topaz
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Light tank are the most difficult type of tank to play for a reason

brave night
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Like i am really garbage at t22

solid gate
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well I applied every strategy, tried everything that I could but the tank is just not good enough in terms of anything, slow traverse, slow speed, bad pen, no camo, barely any armor, what's the point of grinding then ?

brave night
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What tank are you talking about first

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Bc it sounds like you are stock with a none maxed out crew

solid gate
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the whole heavy line, every other line is good apart from that, I rarely see amx m4 45's in battle and even when I do, they are just a curse for the entire team

brave night
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The mobility on the t8+ heavies are amazing, as I pointed out the pen is really good, the dpm is really nice, the turn rate is rlly good as I’ve shown

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The only thing lack luster is the armor

dire topaz
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Tier 7 don't have great pen

solid gate
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the higher tiers are not bad but how is anyone supposed to get there when the tanks before that are unreliable, the FV4005 is a good tank but all the tanks before are either way too nerfed or completely unplayable

brave night
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Just the mobility is bad on the t7

dire topaz
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212 is with the 90mm gun

solid gate
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stock gun is so bad, I don't even wanna talk about it

brave night
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You don’t use the 105

dire topaz
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Yup 90mm Is better

brave night
solid gate
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top gun is mediocre, it can't even compete against tigers

brave night
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the top gun has more dpm and pen then a tigers

solid gate
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when you aim at it, it's red

brave night
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Top one is ap bottom is apcr

solid gate
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I don't spend my gold on ammunition so it's mostly AP for me and you can't really pen anything apart from the front plate but it has a thing which strengthens the armor, it's like an additional armor

brave night
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You can switch it so that you spend credits on pramo btw

solid gate
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but it eats lots of credits, that's why I rarely spend on it

brave night
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Either way, it has good pen. And a better gun than tiger

solid gate
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well that's weird cuz I couldn't ever pen anyone so I just sold it out of anger

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I'll give the tank another try, if it doesn't impress me, I'll throw it out

brave night
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Are you sure your using the 90mm f3 gun?

solid gate
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idk, the stock gun comes with a boxy turret, the other gun comes with a curved turret

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I had the curved turret so that's the gun I think I had

brave night
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just make sure you have the f3 gun also you have good armor against t6 tanks angled

solid gate
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the armor is flat and the tracks are completely visible to anyone

floral rain
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if you have the arl maxed you get the same 90mm dca 45 on the m4 45

brave night
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everyone will agree the t7 is the worst of the line i give you that

floral rain
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oddly enough i despise the 50 100 but do incredibly well in the 50 120 even though most people don't like the 50 120

brave night
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i love both

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the t7 is played as a second line support

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the french heavies really teach you how to play support heavies

solid gate
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I play like a TD cuz it has no armor

floral rain
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abuse the gun like wg abuses your wallet

solid gate
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exactly

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I play TDs as supports and support tanks as TDs

pallid flame
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I played the su130pm like a medium, plss help me

solid gate
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it has good speed and good gun so it's pretty annoying to hit it

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I used to play the lowe like a light tank cuz people would always leave open flanks

pallid flame
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750 HE max roll on a waffle skdjjdjdjdj

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Fact: play the su130pm as a medium and you’ll do 4K damage

solid gate
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Su 130 pm is pretty cool cuz it's a skorpion G gun and a rhm low profile camo

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I like the tank so when I have enough gold or it's on sale, I'll buy it

pallid flame
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Cost me 12.5k gold wheeze

solid gate
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damn, that's nuts

pallid flame
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Think it was when it was out for gold the first time

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It would cost more with the camo and equipment slots

solid gate
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oh I see

pallid flame
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More* my English isn’t good today

solid gate
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I don't understand the prices in gold, it makes me think wargaming went bankrupt

pallid flame
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The reason was because it was new at the time

solid gate
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yeah, but sometimes they never change the price even if it's old

bitter lichen
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Maybe cus it's popular?

pallid flame
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No

bright sentinel
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Which one is better T-55A or emil II

signal wedge
pallid flame
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In the replay?

signal wedge
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yeh

pallid flame
signal wedge
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Yes, those things (is the replay older).

pallid flame
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I played the battle today-

signal wedge
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So, is there a setting that needs to be enabled to show those counters?

floral rain
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It's only available in replays

signal wedge
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Oh, right. Yup, I remember looking at some replays and seeing it.

pallid flame
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I’m so confused

signal wedge
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Ok, so those counters are visible in replays from battles, but they aren't part of the HUD in-battle (not available in settings).

gentle wasp
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correct

signal wedge
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Personally, I felt they were way better than ribbons, but I guess that's a discussion for another chat thread...

novel frigate
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Is the Emil I noob friendly? Im on the Leo, which I'm ok at and ready to move up to the Emil soon, so got any tips on it?

plucky summit
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Emil I is pretty good if you stay hulldown

wooden crater
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high floor, high ceiling. you'll do pretty well in it, but it takes a lot of skill to use it to its full potential.

novel frigate
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Yeah, lol when I am playing tier 8 with other tanks i can never pen its top

plain wagon
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Is the tvp gonna be a good tank?

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Also does anybody know when it’s gonna come out?

brave night
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Most likely 7.7 and it will be a good tank and from what I heard it either does really good or it does really bad

tired rune
exotic pagoda
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Should I sell my löwe? It keeps taking damage even when the enemy only sees my front

plain wagon
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Don’t keep it it’s a good tank just learn how to play it I guess

exotic pagoda
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Hmmm

eternal canyon
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Keep it, it's a fun and strong tank

modern lotus
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how good is Su-122-44?

hollow moth
# modern lotus how good is Su-122-44?

Pros:

  • Very Mobile, it's like a T-44
  • Good cannon stats (alpha and reload/DPM, post buff penetration)
  • Good concealment values
  • Low profile
  • Does very good at give support to mediums
  • Your armor may work against lower tiers

Cons:

  • Precision may be bad at long ranges
  • Turretless
  • Armor can't deal with most of tanks in the tier 7
  • Poor gun depression, -4 degrees as I remember

Personal opinion: It's good and I recommend, but you can get better things in events or in shop

modern lotus
hollow moth
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Well, then how did you get or want the SU-122-44?

visual hatch
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were the designers eating glue or something while designing the turret? why would you not put a gun mantlet on your turret? I heard it had a gun mantlet inside but it sure doesn't seem like it.

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hollow moth
visual hatch
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not 100% on the credibility of the source since it's quickybaby if i remember correctly

graceful wedge
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Can't wait to get the is3

solid gate
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@visual hatch the turret is of a similar design to the chieftains which didnt feature a mantlet inside or out with a mantlet less turret you gain more flexibility and even potentially more protection then a mantlet

clever badger
kindred wren
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Those tanks all have gun mantlets

graceful wedge
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Just researched the is3 🥳

clever badger
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Pogu

long granite
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Hello, is the WZ 112-2 worth it if we already have the IS5 (seem quite similar) pls ?

graceful wedge
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Not worth, but worth for collection @long granite

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Chinese tanks break quick because they're made in china remember.

long granite
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hahah, thx for the answer 😉

graceful wedge
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No problem m8

livid yacht
potent tinsel
long granite
amber onyx
potent tinsel
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Depends, obj252u is better for inexperienced players as they can bounce more shots because the upper plate is very strong and can bounce prem shells, but the mobility is worse and has a meh gun. The 112-2 is good for experienced players because it has a strong upperplate, not as strong as the obj252u's but still strong, with more mobility and a better gun

hard haven
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Guys do you think wg will add the italian heavies into wotb?

vernal gale
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why the amx 13 90 does not have a HEAT when it is the only shell with the HE that it has received. Certainly WG has not been in realism for a long time but that said this tank never has AP nor APRC moreover the penetration of the 90mm F3 gun is much higher than that of WoT B that fill a hole with a fake tank (the Bat-Chat 25t AP, is a fake) while the amx 13 90 even has the possibility of going to Tier 10 always in the same idea WHY FR guns are just underestimated just like ca the 75mm SA50 of the AMX 13 has at can the same penetration as the 83mm of the Centurion Mk1 on WoT it is still nothing compared to the penetration of the 90mm CN F3 which approaches IRL of the 250mm of pen besides the DOUBLE BARS OF THE TANK GIVES HIM the ability to fire 13 shells with 5 sec between them

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sorry for the english ,I use translate 😄

sweet pulsar
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finally the kranvagn allows us to purchase the camo any time 😩

thick trout
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@vernal gale As you seem to have not noticed, this game is not exactly realistic...

lyric oriole
# long granite hahah, thx for the answer 😉

WZ-112-2 is much better than IS-5 and Obj 252u, the armor is much stronger and the profile and turret are better as well as the gun.

112-2 gets put in a spot where it really shouldn't, it literally performs better in the hands of an experienced player

long granite
hollow notch
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112 2 is an is3 with an actually useful hull.

brave night
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The turret can be penned with pramo tho, got decently sized cheeks

formal seal
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112 2 is an is3 with a better hull, armour profile, and it can actually sidescrape effectively. only thing it sacrifices is the pen

brave night
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The turret is a bit worse

formal seal
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not by muhc, you don't play hulldown in wz because you have a good hull

lyric oriole
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Nice discord notif

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But still the turret is very strong, it has weakspots by technicality

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The IS-3 turret is honestly one of the only turrets that could stand up to tier 10s in the days of +2/-2 so the really good hull on WZ-112-2 + the Near identical IS-3 turret are really strong

strange thicket
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looks like getting the glacial was a mistake

tawdry cairn
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How do you get a Hybrid Nation tank? Like the Annihilator and those special tanks

How do you buy them?

lyric oriole
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You buy them

lyric oriole
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People recommend it for some reason and I don't get it

tawdry cairn
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Where do you buy them? Are they a limited time thing?

strange thicket
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yeah realized, too late tho.
kinda immediately regretted buying it when i saw the wz-112-2 in the store

strange thicket
tawdry cairn
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Ok thanks. None are in shop rn right?

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The annihilator looks really cool I kinda want it if I can get it

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Wow this 30 seconds typing thing is really annoying but I understand it lol

strange thicket
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oh whoops, can't say that word 😅 ,
smasher and annihilator don't get sold, they are put in crates with small drop chances because they are broken as "frick".

tawdry cairn
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Ok thanks

plain wagon
sweet pulsar
plain wagon
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Is wz121 a good tank?

gentle wasp
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very

plain wagon
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I’m trying to decide if I wanna finish my grind for it or start grinding for something else like progetto 65 or t62a

gentle wasp
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finish the grind, it's one of the best t10 meds

gentle wasp
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Prog 46

hushed shadow
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Damn, someone really spammed HE in a T30 against me and penned that tiny area on the lower plate...

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gentle wasp
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I'm really not a fan of the Chimera

hushed shadow
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Is Progetto 46 considered OP?

gentle wasp
hushed shadow
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I really like the Progetto but idk if it’s OP. Just works well and the reload isn’t bad at all

gentle wasp
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pretty overrated IMO, the turret is nice and the gun still hits and pens well, but you have zero stopping power and the DPM is still below average.

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the turret is really good don't get me wrong, but it just lacks any kind of damage output, which is a huge aspect for being an above average tank. Prog and Chimera are both miles ahead in the department.

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lastly, you still only go 45, which really hurts as you're already a highly situational tank. good soft mobility stats, sure, but being capped at 45 kinda sucks.

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yes
It's one of the best uses of gold

strange thicket
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or you can wait for extra game modes to grind out the crew

brittle atlas
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is their a good way to hide lfp on the 252u? will backing up on a slope artificaly anglinh the tank help?

woven cradle
brittle atlas
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oof

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other easy ways to hide lfp

kindred wren
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Both sidescraping and going hulldown works

brittle atlas
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yea

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russian rng not with me today, i tracked 4 times aiming at hull

solid gate
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soviet tank t-34 or kv-1

hollow notch
floral rain
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find anything that can hide your lower plate: hills, rocks, rubble, facehug

hollow notch
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Whoever said the roof was paper needs to look again. The hatches are weak, yes, but most of the roof is much more solid than any other heavy roof is.

idle sentinel
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I’m thinking of getting an Obj. 268. Any tips about playing the tank or should I not get it?

plucky summit
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The line is hecken fun

Sniper, mainly, but you could try out secondline support

idle sentinel
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Alright, thanks.

signal wedge
idle sentinel
signal wedge
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lol. Just a suggestion. Something I sometimes do when considering a new line to grind is look up bushkaonblitz, meadsy69, occasionally even quickybaby, vids on the tanks.

neon pike
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E100 or maus

cursive geode
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Any tips on how to play the German light line? Want to grind it in the near future.

candid bolt
floral rain
# cursive geode Any tips on how to play the German light line? Want to grind it in the near futu...

Assuming you mean tier 6-8
VK28 has a really good gun and below average armor but you can still bounce tier 5 guns if you angle it. Generally just rely on your gun and speed.
SP 1 C is probably the tank that suffers the most because you have kv2 in tier 6, su152, smasher, and anni in tier 7, and hell in tier 8. Let your teammates take shots and generally just avoid trades at all costs unless you need to secure a kill. Also assume everyone will be shooting HE at you.
Ru 251 is really fun with your speed and HESH. Always look for those hesh opportunities, 100mm pen is enough to go through the sides and rear of most tanks in the game. Assume even more people will spam HE at you.

atomic stump
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Need To add Waffentrager Auf e100 3 clips 30second reload speed 30Km/H

plucky summit
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Might as well just have FV4005

floral rain
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Yeah that just sounds like the 4005

candid harbor
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4005 has nice 18s reload :>

plucky summit
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I say highest skill ceiling, ngl

candid harbor
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yea, it maybe up with grille

plucky summit
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Highest ceiling in general ngl

atomic stump
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Add Abrams i dare u

candid harbor
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kpf pz owo

atomic stump
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Kpfpz reskinned Abrams uwu

plucky summit
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Someone had a mod where the T34 looked like an Abrams

atomic stump
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Kpfpz would be cool

cursive geode
novel frigate
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SP IC will make you want to delete the game, especially when if your playing it stock, its just so easy to pen

candid harbor
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sp 1 c has high skill floor

novel frigate
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indeed, the Inden Panzer is easier to play i believe

fast compass
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Sp1c was fun

candid harbor
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still is, recent mobility and dpm buff made it bit better

fast compass
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Wg has a tendency to buff tanks right after i am done grinding them.

candid harbor
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xd

floral rain
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see i just don't grind any tanks so i alwaya play post-buff

fast compass
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You see, if i could think like that i wouldn't suck at playing this game

floral rain
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You see, I still suck

brazen tangle
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French light tank line is pretty fun ngl

candid harbor
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yea, they all play pretty much exactly the same, and none of the issue of predecessor is improved

you just get slight bigger better gun

neat nimbus
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Kinda feel WG should add more customization options

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Apart of camouflages and attachments, would be nice some elements from wot PC like decals and inscriptions

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I mean that would be a great feature and will cost gold

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Maybe few will cost credits

brazen tangle
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Yeah decals would be nice

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Or just adding more attachments to the game

solid gate
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Sadly they won’t since they can’t figure out how to implement marks of excellence even though their excuse is the engine won’t allow it despite them making camos that change vehicle models and straight up animated camouflage

crude tree
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can i ask something

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if im getting a premium tank, what would you guys pick

livid yacht
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If it's your first premium wait for a great bundle in the shop

candid harbor
lethal lark
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or not?

candid harbor
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tank is meh

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gun is horrendous, mobility is meh, armor is meh and 4° depression is pain on a td with poor gun arc

woven cradle
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thicc turret and insane dpm.

tiny rapids
keen garnet
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Buy 183 instead

solid gate
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I just got the E75 and free xped the top turret
First battle, I got absolutely buttf***ed by an FV215B and an E50, bouncing no shots
----_-----

hollow notch
clever badger
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Circus camo lulw

solid gate
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Sold the E75 after 2 battles.. I did not expect the tank to be so bad even with the top turret

hollow moth
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@solid gate lmao that's one of the best T9 heavies, you most likely only researched the top turret or just don't knoe hiw to play it

solid gate
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Yes I think i got too used to the Tiger 2, E75 with just the top turret seems like it has no armor

lethal kindle
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what

solid gate
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I literally bounced 0 shots in 2 battles, hulldown and sidescraping

lethal kindle
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I can't tell if you are actually sucks in that tank or just sucks in this game

solid gate
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just right through the turret and the ufp -_- I guess I shouldn't complain about premium shells but rlly if the tank's main feature is the armor, it feels sucky

hot bobcat
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Just got the borsig this morning, fantastic. First battle 4K damage 4 kills

dawn vector
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Anyone notice how insanely OP the WZ-120-1 FT is? I've carried some pretty insane games in that tank, where i would have almost certainly lost in others. Mobility, effective frontal armour, decent DPM, accurate-ish gun. I got over 70% win ratio in that tank atm

thick trout
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It's good but it's armour is eh and it's got no hp so it isn't anywhere near insanely op

dawn vector
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120mm frontal armour, all you gotta do is angle it up a tiny slope and virtually every enemy that fires at you bounces lmao

thick trout
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It can get 300mm effective using max gun depression and arc, but then you have normalisation which hurts it a lot because it relies on the extreme angle, and then you have the fact that literally every tank in existence is shooting from above its plate, so unless you are sitting at the back not using your armour you can be penned by most standard ammo. And you always have your lower plate, and you are a fat tank without a turret so you expose a lot of armour before you can shoot

dawn vector
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bruh, it doesn't always have to be so sciency. I bounce a solid half of the shells that hit me in that thing, maybe more. and 71% win ratio for a T8 TD is pretty solid in my books

thick trout
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I mean I think I bounce more shots in the AT15 than in the 120FT it doesn't mean the AT15 is better armoured...

That's why the stats matter

tough oriole
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New camos are looking good!

tawdry depot
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very gud If you want an advice delete the gfx files :D and camos on 3d file
The result gonna get better

graceful wedge
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I sold my is3 after 1 battle

strange thicket
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@solid gate lmao E75's armor is way better than Tiger2's
you probably didn't angle or sidescrape, the turret is even better than that of Tiger2's.
and the UFP by no means gets penned with prammo, unless the enemy is above you.

rotund bone
exotic pagoda
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So is the löwe a good tank? Or am I just bad at playing it

lyric oriole
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It's beyond average

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The gun is good

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Armor meh

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Dpm meh

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Mobility meh

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It's huge

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And that not only hurts the armor in a way but also the camo of course (which does matter a bit)

exotic pagoda
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Its easy to pen even when the enemy only see my front tho

topaz summit
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It’s a good tank.. makes lots of credits.. but you can’t rush into a fight your out numbered in.. gotta wiggle a lot..

hollow notch
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Never sit still. Many people will miss the cheeks if you constantly move.

exotic pagoda
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Huh

topaz summit
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If you sit still people have time to aim at your weak spots.. wiggle back and forth, never let your turret or tracks sit still, you will bounce more shot, only stop moving when your going to shot

hollow notch
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Doing what I just did to tier 5s is not ok

solid gate
brazen tangle
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This is so sad, i basically have the kranvagn fully researched but im no where near having the credits to buy it

lyric oriole
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Grind time

hollow notch
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Or fork over the $$$$$$
(Not recommend)

lyric flume
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wrong picture

lyric flume
tulip edge
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Yes, it’s not bad at all. Its a pretty straightforward tank to play as well

ember bobcat
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Good armor, decent mobility for its size, and good gun characteristics other than dpm

solid gate
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angeling works too since its got a big box just dont angle too mutch

ember bobcat
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Yea it’s German lol

solid gate
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Yeah were in the t22 you wiggle and easy 5k blocked XD

neat nimbus
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if the defender amx comes in crates then thats the worst thing

pliant lodge
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@neat nimbus most likely will

neat nimbus
pliant lodge
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👏

solid gate
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Hey i have a question for the vrt tickets do you need to like verify your email to complet the process cause i have. Been signed out of that email and was just wondering

wet oriole
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Don’t you just sign in with the Wargaming account you use on Blitz, and that’s how the handler knows who it’s sending the tank to?

solid gate
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No i was wondering if they like made you verify or semd u a email or somthing

wet oriole
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No, I don’t believe they do, as you need to be signed in to send the VRT anyway.

solid gate
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what also sucks is that i need to get a code from the email to add a phome number to change emails :/ and cant get on da email

wet oriole
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You may get an email response to the ticket though as confirmation it’s been done.

solid gate
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ah ok

wet oriole
tulip sundial
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Everyone is saying the AMX defender will come in crates, but when have the defenders ever been directly sold in crates? They’ll probably come as a bundle

thick trout
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My guess:
T28 def no equipment etc - 8.5k
IS3 def no equipment etc - 8.5k
Mk1 def no equipment etc - 10k
Bundle with all four with equipment and avatar for cash, around £45 or equivalent in local currency maybe?

tulip sundial
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Sounds about right, but I’d say closer to £54

brave night
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I mean everyone is saying 5% drop chance

gentle wasp
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it's been leaked in crates with 5% drop and charms.

solid gate
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How to play tiger p?

plucky summit
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@solid gate can't do too much with the armor, but it can get annoying bounces against enemies >:)

Mainly try to be a support tank, something that'll try to sneak in shots as the enemies fight the frontliners, like say, a Black Prince

solid gate
tulip sundial
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Wargaming should take their crates, dip it in warm oil and shove it up their cough

tulip sundial
plucky summit
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When T-2020 came out :D

That's just one of them, not sure if that's the most recent

solid gate
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what tech tree line should i grind?

solid gate
plucky summit
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@solid gate either he loaded prammo or hit your cupola, cuz the armor is great

@solid gate he's getting penned in his E75

solid gate
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215 literally has the pen to go through upper kpz less so with gold

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Yes prammo, I was expecting a bit of prammo fired at me, didn't really expect the enemy to fire gold all game

plucky summit
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They had to, your armor was good :D

solid gate
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That's one way to look at it I guess

plucky summit
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Heck, your armor is phenomenal against tier 8s, they'd HAVE to load prammo because your LFP is a solid 240mm effective minimum angled

crystal hare
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Just got carried by @wise moth nice work bud

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TVP 50/51

wise moth
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@crystal hare gg mate
I had to put on my 1v4 carry pants lol (I'm surprised I didn't choke that, I always choke 1vX situations)

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crystal hare
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I didn’t doubt u

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You had tvp it’s op rn

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Sorry I died so early, I got tracked and focused

tulip sundial
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What makes the TVP op?

crystal hare
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1240 burst and 2 seconds inter clip I was 50 120

tulip sundial
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It’s armour sucks, it’s speed is good and the gun is like a tier X version of the Lorraine

Actually the whole thing is just a tier X Lorraine

crystal hare
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1240 burst over 6 seconds makes it pretty workable

tulip sundial
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Yeah but I don’t see it as op

crystal hare
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Still pretty good if not op

wise moth
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So many thoughts, so many restrictions xaxaxaxa

tulip sundial
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Pain

wise moth
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Also, I love that two people both with Nonna pfp's are debating against each other

tulip sundial
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It’s armour makes it hard to stay out and get that whole clip unless the enemy is distracted, or you’re unspotted

crystal hare
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I 1v3d in obj 252u not that long ago

tulip sundial
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Not surprising

crystal hare
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Yeah, but I’m a 44% with 6.5k battles lol

tulip sundial
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It’s armour is wack

crystal hare
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Yeah, I’m not gonna argue that

tulip sundial
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My best 1v3 was in the E-100

crystal hare
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I have 5 kobalanovs

tulip sundial
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I have 2, and I have 15k battles
Let me check actually

crystal hare
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I guess I was lucky

strange thicket
# solid gate Yeah no, even a Kpz notorious for its low penetration consistently went through ...

bro i played the E75 enough to know what i say, i only despised the tank because of the mobility.
everything else was fine, you are getting hit in the turret cheeks probably so wiggle, it is a problem with that kind of turret.
i am not even sure why do you complain about it, since tiger2's turret is even worse.
you don't have maus level of armor so i don't know what are you expecting.

solid gate
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People don't shoot prammo at the tiger 2 for some reason
and having played the maus, that thing's armor is pretty crap too, a t110e5 is better

strange thicket
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bruh and bruh
tiger2's armor turns grey when i press 2 lmao.
unless it is some seriously low pen gun or a pew pew gun.
even then the turret is an option.

also you insulted Positive's fav tank

tulip sundial
wise moth
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@solid gate Maus armor is fine if you angle. If used properly, it works exactly as advertised. You roll forward, and bounce some shells, but some will pen, although that fact is negated by the high HP pool

tulip sundial
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How did I get a kolobanov in the T71?

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I hate that tank because 13 75 superiority

wise moth
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T71 is just AMX 13 75 but better in every way now tho

solid gate
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T71 is still really good

wise moth
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More pen, gun depression/elevation, gun handling, speed, and even HP.

All the 13 75 does better is camo

tulip sundial
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I like the 13 75 more

It’s less ugly

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I bounced two IS-3’s in the 13 75, either my luck decided to show up or they just suck that bad

plucky summit
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Track hits?

crystal hare
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Most likely

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How I bounced a missile in t-54ltwt’s side

plucky summit
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It's mainly the fact it was too low to hit the hull in the first place

rigid condor
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the 13 75 is barely better than the amx 12t

plucky summit
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It's much better...

solid gate
#

Please I need help, I really want to play mediums but I always get killed. Any good tips so I can play correctly mediums and survive?

signal wedge
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Stick behind hills. Especially for Russian meds, using hills to keep your decent ufp towards the enemy is helpful (at least for me).

strange thicket
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depends on the medium you are playing

signal wedge
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Don't misuse your mobility, be careful not to overextend (stick with other meds, lights, etc.)

novel frigate
naive island
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Gotta love the fact that 13-90 defender will come in crates

candid lark
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am not even interested in the amx 13-90 defender

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i`am only hoping that i never encounter it and ruin the game

solid gate
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What's an EU 57 and How do I get it?

naive island
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Oh the ue 57? It’s a tier 3 French td that was removed in 5.5. I don’t know if Wargaming will sell it. It’s a really small tank that’s really fun to play

tulip sundial
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The last time we seen a new tank come out not in crates was like 9 months ago, T-2020 wasn’t it?

long apex
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Foch 155 vs 263

candid harbor
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they both are sorta equal

I am more in favor of foch

tulip sundial
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Foch is less situational

supple bolt
sweet mural
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Is wz-111 worth it for the 5500

pallid flame
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It’s cheap for a t8

tulip edge
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@sweet mural You’re better off getting the 112-2

restive nova
#

how much?

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@solid gate

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Have the FV, it's good for what it is, and 3.5k is a fair price

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but have in mind you'll be playing in the p2w shitfest that's known as t7, so I'd say go for 121B instead

lethal kindle
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Fv201 with 3.5k? Are you using gold to skip grind?

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Yea I just realized, thought u were talking about the 301 for a while, anyways no don't buy 201, go for 121b

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50 51 is a tech tree

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It's literally a tech tree

restive nova
lethal kindle
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@solid gate every testing tank are marked gold or blue bruh

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It's true tho, in WG website it's marked as blue

hollow moth
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@solid gate trust us, every tank during supertest becomes premium or a collector tank

It happened with Ho-Ri, Sheridan, that WZ TD in tier 10, Vk 90, Vk 72 and will also happen with other T10 tanks duribg super tests

lethal kindle
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Yes and you can't even buy it now so what's the point

hollow moth
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Not all premiums are supposed to be buyable, Ke-Ni Otsu is an example @lethal kindle

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I don't remember seen one Otsu in shop

lethal kindle
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@hollow moth it was available before 5,5

coral bough
#

Wht do u think about the FV 183 (Death Star)?

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I think they should buf the engine and horse power

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its too slow+has no armour

candid harbor
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i would like it to only have bit higher top speed
everything else is fine about it

coral bough
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Armour?

candid harbor
ivory void
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is it an autoloader gun?

coral bough
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no, but the reload time is too long (21s)

ivory void
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wtf

coral bough
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that balances the big gun, not the lack of armour

ivory void
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its the worst tank in t10.....

candid harbor
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18s if you top your crew, run provisions and rammee

coral bough
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it's definetly not the wors though

candid harbor
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it is the worst but very capable

coral bough
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FV4005 is the worst

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its uggly too

candid harbor
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4005 is borderline op

coral bough
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yup

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but easy to HESH

static harness
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4005 uses spall liner
It is very effective!

tulip edge
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Back before the 183 was nerfed it was spammed hard in tier ten, so obnoxious

tender knoll
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fc 50 t

solid gate
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Why aren't 4005 rushes used more often in tournament play? If you think about it, it seems like a halfway viable alternative to the standard 50B yolo on one flank. The 4005 has much better DPM than the 50B, as well as 60 more alpha damage and a shorter clip reload time. The 4005 also gets Spall Liner, and you could run Improved Engine Power and Shell Reload boost to drop the intraclip and boost the mobility for the initial push. If you send a few fast heavies, like E5's with Improved Engine Power boost or IS-7s ahead as shields, I can see it working out fairly well

rigid condor
solid gate
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I mean, if we're being honest, the 4005 can take as many HE hits as the 50B can

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50B has 2438 HP max, and the 4005 has 1908. Assuming each HE shell average rolls for 960, and Spall Liner blocks 20%, that's 768 damage per shot, which means the 4005 can take 3 hits with HE. The 50B also takes 3 hits with HE (960 x 3 = 2880 > 2438)

tulip sundial
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50 B is harder to HE on the front

solid gate
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If you think about it, the 50B doesn't have any armor advantages over the 4005, and the 4005 has way more firepower and is arguably more specialized for a yolo rush strat considering you have access to Improved Engine Power boost and Shell Reload Boost

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Plus, you can just focus fire any large caliber guns down first, and they'll really only be able to get one shot off before being annihilated

tulip sundial
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Ok but the 50B has a more reliable turret for blocking HE and has way more hp

tender knoll
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guys..IS-7 good or nah?

solid gate
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pubs, yeah, tournaments, not rlly

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Plus, it has the added advantage of being a priority target, so once all the 4005's are cleared, then the enemy has 2 or 3 full HP E5's or IS-4's or IS-7's to take care of

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”50B doesnt have any armor advantages over 4005”
Your joking right memes aside 50B can still tank more damage than the 4005 and still has more frontal protection 4005 still towers before the 50B

lyric copper
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but 4005 DOES have a camo bonus

solid gate
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say each of the 4005's gets 1 clip off, 2 die, and the other 2 manage to get another clip before dying, thats 8,280 potential damage

tender knoll
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which IS series is the best bro

lyric copper
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IS-4

tulip sundial
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IS-4 is the best but it gets stale real fast

solid gate
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Using the two consumables means your already willingly giving up a repair kit or a medkit which in a paper tank means agony the super boost also intensifies how bad the bloom on it is along with the magazine speed resetting too fast before the recoil sets down

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if the 4005s were firing constantly, thats ~40 seconds of time, during which each of the heavies will be able to get off about 4 shots each, 5 if theyre using adrenaline, in the case of the E5

tender knoll
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stale?

tulip sundial
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It gets really boring

solid gate
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assuming you run 3 is-7s, thats 460 damage per tank x 4 shots in that 40 second spam, which is 1840 damage. multiply that by 3, you get 5520 damage. add that to the predicted 8280 potential damage from the 4005s, thats almost 14k damage

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or 3 E5s with adrenaline, in which case it would be 400 x 5 shots per tank, which is 2000 damage, x 3 is ~6000 potential damage, bringing the total up to around 14.3k

solid gate
# solid gate Using the two consumables means your already willingly giving up a repair kit or...

The whole point of the 4005 rush is to get up close and personal, deal a huge blow, then have the heavies finish everything off if the 4005s die. 4 clips of 1380 damage as an opening is basically 2 enemy tanks dead. Assuming each enemy tank can get 2 shots off before the 4005s reload, thats ~4000 damage in return because theyll use HE, which is blocked by the spall liner and it'll have the around the same dmg as your average 120mm AP shell. Also, at such a close range, dispersion won't really matter since everyone is firing point blank. The whole idea is to deal a huge blow to the enemy, follow up with a smaller one, and have the friendly heavies clear the low HP targets and mop up after

heady galleon
floral rain
# solid gate assuming you run 3 is-7s, thats 460 damage per tank x 4 shots in that 40 second ...

alright i don't know if you've seen comp play but nobody runs IS-7s. Not to mention TDs dying drops points more than heavies dying in supremacy. Yes you can use them as damage in a can except if they die you gotta make sure you either cap a lot of bases or kill off tanks really quickly. 4005 doesn't have a fully traverse-able turret which sucks in those close-range brawling situations. It might be useful in mid-level play but the heavy meta is so entrenched it's not worth giving up the 600 HP advantage of a 50B for 160 extra clip damage

wise moth
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@solid gate There's a few reasons why that doesn't work.

Firstly, defenders have first shot advantage. As the 4005s close the distance, the enemy will get the first salvo, likely outright killing one of the 4005s right there before he gets his clip out. And then once the 4005s are in close combat, they will likely lose a second 4005 before he finishes getting his clip out as well. Add in misses and bounces, and in a 4v4 situation, you're probably only putting out about 6 penetrating shells worth of damage (about one heavy tank down with perfect focus) while losing 2 tanks (since the enemy is not going to miss/bounce on 4005s) And then when everyone goes on reload, you need to survive that too.

Secondly, a big problem is the HP deficit. The difference between running 4x4005s vs 4xHeavies is at best a 2.1k HP deficit (assuming those 4 heavies are low HP ones like 113s), and at worst, 5k. (4 Mauses). That kind of HP deficit, is extremely difficult to overcome, especially since none of those 4005s are going to be bouncing any shells.

Also, the art of the push has already been worked out on Blitz, and especially with heavy HP buffs and low Blitz clip sizes, DPM is preferable to only clippers (although one, maybe two clip tanks can augment the firepower). There's no need to reinvent the wheel here

cinder bluff
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nerf the smasher am i right

solid gate
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i get why it wouldnt work on larger maps, but on smaller maps like Middleburg where casemate TDs are practically worthless and firing angles are limited, I can see it working as a one off strategy

wise moth
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@solid gate No one really runs turretless TDs except in niche use cases, and sometimes E3

solid gate
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Plus, you have building cover and you could always send a multi pronged attack so you dont just yolo all your forced down one lane

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Which is kinda irrelevant since 4005 turns it’s turret extremely slow and wobbles very easily not to mention its height

wise moth
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@solid gate For Middleburg, town pushes can literally be blunted by a single tank sitting in the hulldown in either spawn. If you push him, his entire team obliterates you from the hill while you cross through the open. If you don't push him, he farms you to death

solid gate
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fair enough. i'll probably test it at some point and we'll see how it goes

after all, you cant know for sure until you put it into practice

wise moth
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@solid gate I know, because I've tried stuff like that before. You'll quickly find that you face the same challenge that dogged WWI commanders.

"How do I get fragile attackers across open ground with being obliterated in the process?"

floral rain
solid gate
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hacks

floral rain
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imagine a tank that just carries more tanks

tulip sundial
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Russian doll of tanks

solid gate
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Lol

solid gate
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Hello, I did some bad choices and I want help. I had kv3 and researched kv4 but I didn't have enough credits to buy it, but some friends told me that is4 which is at the end isn't a good tank, I started German line but I didn't like it. Now I have only pz III and 1.427.700 credits. What should I do? I'm mostly heavy tank player but I'm open to good suggestions. Help me please

floral rain
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go down whatever line you want, it doesn't matter

solid gate
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the IS-4 is one of the best tier 10 heavy tanks, your friends are dead wrong. However, the stock grind for the IS-4 is painful for F2P players, so I would suggest starting other lines, such as the AMX 50B, T57 Heavy, T110E5, etc etc, gaining experience and credits, and then returning to the IS-4.

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AMX 50B is the French heavy autoloader tank right?

wise moth
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yeah

solid gate
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Ok and how do I play with autoloaders?

floral rain
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find positions to connect your shots

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don't be afraid to reload when there's nobody to shoot and go for tanks you can clip out

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Duck's writing out an entire PhD thesis

solid gate
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Ambush tactics, usually. Use your autoloader to take out targets that other cyclical firing tanks can't clear quickly. The AMX M4 45 is a medium support and bully. The AMX 50 100 is a fast flanking/ambush tank that pairs well with mediums and lights. The 50 120 is much more "heavy" and works well as a corner poker/ambusher. The 50B has improvements in armor, mobility, and firepower, allowing you to play farther away or as a more viable close in flanker

tulip edge
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All I’d say is keep in mind how far you are from your teammates. Reloading can leave you vulnerable

floral rain
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I wouldn't really say the 50B is a good starting line to grind since it takes a lot of game knowledge

solid gate
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This too. Have support at hand, and never go alone as an opening play because you'll dump your clip and then get steamrolled. Towards the mid-game, breaking off and flanking alone is more viable. Try running clippers in pairs with a platoonmate

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@floral rain fair. I was looking at lines that don't make you lose 30k credits/game like the IS-4, especially since this guy is probably a F2P player

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Yes I'm f2p

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@solid gate do you have any premiums or collectors at all?

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No I don't, I'm completely f2p

floral rain
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for clippers conserve your HP because mid-endgame is when you can outtrade basically every tank in the game when they're already damaged

solid gate
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Ok thank you very much all of you for the help

plucky summit
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@solid gate just because you're F2P doesn't mean you're unable to get premium/collector tanks, just an insight to why he'd ask that :p

late niche
#

what are some ironically op soviet tanks for its tier? im at kv 2 rn

plucky summit
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@late niche SU-152 is pretty good

brave night
strange thicket
#

no, it is very meh actually.
i tried to go back to that tier to enjoy some of the tanks i used to like, like the bulldog and yeah, that wasn't fun at all.
i sold my IS after i bought the IS3, it is on the useless spectrum of tanks in tier 7

tulip sundial
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It’s armour profile is pretty good and it’s overall movement is pretty decent, it’s a really fun tank that can get some nice bounces

solid gate
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Amx ac 48 is a huge pos, how do I play the tank? they say it's a tier 8 foch, but if this is what a foch is supposed to be, I want to abandon the line

brave night
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Try to keep a distance as you have giant weak points and use your gun to support

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The Foch has only the troll weak point and handles much better

static harness
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The t8 is ... ok
The t9 is wonderful (doesn't have the troll weakspots though)
And the t10s weakspots are just retarded

hollow notch
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I found the foch (tier 9) to be one of the bounciest tanks I have played. As long as you are moving, people mess up so many shots on the weak points

static harness
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That is how I feel with the t10
If people aim at the weakspots they will most likely bounce

hollow notch
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If people just loaded gold and aimed general mass, they would be destroyed very quickly. But people don't and its honestly ridiculous.

static harness
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^ This.
I dont mind though lol
Makes my t9/10 games more fun

bright sentinel
#

Is the Canadian chonky boi RAM II atleast decent?

nocturne sage
#

The question is why are u gonna buy a low tier tank

plucky rain
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It's basically if a Crusader and a Sherman had a baby.
High dpm but 40km/h speed and weak armour@_SaurKraut v.2.0#3785

bright sentinel
hidden lance
#

Anybody else like the Jägdtiger 8.8cm? I mean c'mon it's a tier VIII TD with a 100 silver shell cost for standard APC rounds

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@bright sentinel I have the Ram II and it's ok for it's tier and class. Plays like a support sniper

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A really great underrated tank is the Matilda BP. Accurate and fast reload. Speed is a bit to be desired but it's still a fun vehicle.

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Mine reloads in 3 seconds and has a shell cost of 56 silver for standard rounds

plucky summit
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Churchill I has a 2.2s reload lol

fluid parrot
#

I've unlocked the M46 Patton, any tips for this tank?

hard nexus
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shoot stuff

severe zealot
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aim at the enemy tank, and shoot them

pallid flame
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drive

candid harbor
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type "oil" in global chat for marginal performance boost

pallid flame
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no

plucky summit
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Or just float with it

worn forge
#

Shouldn't there be a Tog 1?

candid harbor
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in garage? wuut

sleek cargo
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Ji

candid harbor
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damnn boi

visual hatch
#

does hesh have more module damage? because I'm looking at blitz hangar and it says it's the same as ap

rigid condor
urban radish
dusty copper
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Is the French TD line any good?

worn forge
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Dunno

static harness
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The only thing the foch has that the 110e3 doesn't have is the autoloader and better mobility
Take it from a foch155 main

thorny bane
#

The tier 6,7,8 French tds are awful

fast compass
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Tier 6 was decent and even got a buff this update. Tier 7 is awful agreed. Tier 8 again wasn't that bad

thorny bane
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Respect ur opinion but the tier 6 is almost always on the worst tank lists, it’s an awful tank. Tier 8 is better than the 7 which is also awful

formal seal
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tier 6 is ok at best once you get all the modules. tier 7 is bad unless you fight against low tier/noobies. tier 8 is decent at best but still not very good. wouldn't recommend the line 70% of the time just get the E3

fast compass
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E3 got no mobility :/
Foches are good tanks. Not as good as they used to be but still worth the grind

hollow notch
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If you like being excessively aggressive with tds, I highly rather foch line

hidden lance
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Should tier Xs come with all equipment slots already unlocked? Already costs 6m+ silver just to aquire then it's another 900k for the first row. And goes up from there.

lyric oriole
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No

formal seal
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that would just buff everything at tier 10

no thanks

elder remnant
#

Anyone know What’s the next special tank birthday

brave night
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search it up

nocturne tiger
#

how do I properly play the AMX M4 45, do I just play it support and hulldown?

storm robin
tight raven
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It’s armor is only good against most tier 6 but it’s not strong enough unless rng is with you or angling

Play style depends on match, bottom tier go support while top tier you can be fairly aggressively

good speed for a heavy (35 forward)
good gun with 10 second reload with 212 pen with AP (dispersion is 0.344 with 2.6 secs of aim) with 225 alpha

floral rain
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bruh what the m4 45 has the best gun out of any non-TD tier 7

nocturne tiger
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I'll keep that in mind, a big ol paper tank with a good gun

storm robin
floral rain
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Go medium flank. You're fast enough to keep up and you can hella support meds with the 90mm

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Yes except you can't exactly grind the tiger 1 to get the 50B

wise oasis
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Is it true on that video I saw a year ago that Self Prophelled Guns are in testing although in the video it said its not yet confirmed but I saw images of the T92 HMC and the Conqueror GC along with larger maps?

tepid geyser
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Uhhhh they won’t be adding spgs.

wise oasis
floral rain
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There's really no point for SPGs in blitz

wise oasis
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Which is a better tank to get the M48 Patton or the Vickers Light?

floral rain
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Vickers by far

wise oasis
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I'm at tier 9 for both of the tanks already

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Hmm HESH Gun is fun I'll have to admit it

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The most OP tanks WG could do for the Americans and the British would be the T58 basically a T57 Heavy but with a 155mm gun and the Shitbarn's (FV 4005 Stage II) OP'd version with an autoloading 183mm gun XD dang I still remember Baron's video about it in MOWAS 2

brave night
solid gate
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Tank is Tank

sacred trail
solid gate
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I dont understand why I'm bouncing zero shots in the amx m4 49
Didn't reviewers say it's the tier 8 amx 54?

plucky summit
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It's pretty hard to use, especially against prammo spammers

spark basin
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is-4 rammer or calibrated shells?

candid harbor
spark basin
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alright

scarlet echo
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Should I go for the vk 100 p or t54e1?

candid harbor
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i like t54e1 but t57 is slow and not as fun to my taste

scarlet echo
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Ah ok

candid harbor
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haven't played vk 100p
but maus is the chonk and pretty good at absorbing damage but gun is troll on it

brave night
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The vk100 is good and has a giant pretty well armored weak point and small cheeks with a high alpha 128

scarlet echo
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Ok

brave night
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Though slow

scarlet echo
#

What tanks you guys recommend to tier 8?

brave night
#

prems

candid harbor
scarlet echo
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Anything else?

solid gate
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Prem? Super pershing or lowe. Tech Tree? Tiger II, T28 (Turretless), ISU 152

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Does anyone owns Vindicator and predator with camo

DM me if you do

brave night
#

I have questions

scarlet echo
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Is tiger (p) good?

candid harbor
# scarlet echo Anything else?

in premium tier 8s chimera and progetto 46

in tech tree ones, ehh fv401, t54ltwt, amx 13 90, ru 251, kv4, isu, rhm, jg panther 2, bri'ish turreted tds, at 15 ehhh

candid harbor
# scarlet echo Is tiger (p) good?

it is slow, has massive hatch, has pretty big lower plate, weak modules and sides are east to penetrate

would recommend tiger i over tiger p
slightly less thickness on front but doesn't have massive weakspots and is stupid mobile

scarlet echo
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What tank should I consider to get? Only one

candid harbor
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isu 152 is very good and line is super easy except once when you have to unlock top gun on isu

supple bolt
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Then again I'm probably thinking about the tanks i knew from late 2019

solid gate
fast compass
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Well lowe is boring. Super Pershing is pretty bad. T28 is argued to be the worst tier 8 tech tree, not sure where you at mate

supple bolt
snow oriole
#

Maus is good tank?

fast compass
supple bolt
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Yup

fast compass
snow oriole
supple bolt
solid gate
fast compass
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No, not sure if you are joking. Definitely the t28. Prot actually has a turret to set up shots better. T28 is like a bunker which doesn't have any protection. Front can be penned easily by prammo. Sides are HEable and is super slow. And the special consumables didn't really help it

supple bolt
#

T28 has special consumables? Huh, didn't know that

fast compass
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Yep. It got them a few patches ago

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The hilarious part is, even e3 got those consumables. Even though it is the best performing td in the tier.

spark basin
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an enemy jageroo snap shotted a shot right into my jageroo's mantlet and penetrated, feels bad

half flame
#

Heyo, can anyone here give me some tips on how to play the stock M4A3E8?

glass relic
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Stay in the back and farm as much as you can to earn CXP to max out your modules, then keep doing that Because you couldn't do anything other than distance fighting or just supportive play.

broken turtle
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i need guide for m46 patton anyone can help

people don't understand my role there, and my tank can even not expecting me to play like "glass cannon": active camping

the camo is too bad for the tank overall,even with camo net. I know some other tank would have worst camo than me, but what i got here? "Bad" dispersion, paper. Im not leo who can snipe kilometers away nor russian meds go hulldown with their thick turret. Mobility not good in all that conditions too. Td can outspot me before i can spot them lol. Also, ht in tier 9 there are so noob. They just don't push. Once they can't distract the enermies, i do nothing. Spoting just made me waste of my hp due td would outspot me

tulip sundial
#

Su-122-54 is actually really fun

plucky summit
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Like E25

glass relic
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Russianized E25

plucky summit
#

I can't wait for the Kanonenjagdpanzer

tulip sundial
#

The E25 like tanks will be complete

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Jg Pz IV, E25, Kanonenjagdpanzer and Su-122-54

candid harbor
# supple bolt Err Tiger 1 is still kinda slow, tiger p is still better in my opinion

well tiger i does 44 kmph has better acceleration
has base hull traverse of 32°/s and has better terrain resistance stats(in other words maintains its momentum better and real traverse numbers across different terrain is better)
guns are practically the same but tiger i has 1° better depression and lower dispersion coefficients
view range is bit worse
hull front is 165mm with no massive weakspots and turret of 100mm with massive gun mantlet and no giant cupola

tiger p does 35 kmph has worse acceleration
has base hull traverse of 21°/s and has worse terrain resistance stats
(in other words tiger p crawls and loses more momentum)
gun is practically same but dispersion coefficients are worse and has less depression angle
hull front is 200mm but it has big weak lower plate, turret is same as tiger i but it has massive cupola weakspot

tiger p basically has no advantage over tiger i other than bit better view range and thicker front which becomes redundant thanks to 2 massive weakspots

tiger p can't hold its ground, can't dog fight, gun isn't as reliable, doesn't have mobility to keep using its dpm effectively and not even as flexible as tiger i

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I don't know what even is point of tiger p when tiger i does everything better

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last nail to coffin of tiger p was the absolutely unnecessary armor buff tiger i received not long ago

half flame
woven cradle
candid harbor
sweet mural
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Is wz-112-2 good for grinding creds

woven cradle
#

Pz IV G-meh gun and irregular armor
Vk 30.01 P: Useless without top modules, takes forever to get there too.

candid harbor
#

vk 30p is pretty good, heavy hitter and mobile

woven cradle
candid harbor
#

pretty much most tanks have annoying stock grind

woven cradle
karmic nymph
#

Wow what a bunch of bad takes

sweet mural
#

What would you recommend

wise oasis
#

Anyone here misses the old days when mid and low tier tanks get 105mm derp guns?

candid harbor
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nah

lyric copper
#

^ same

misty tide
#

is the is 6 legend of battles available in the camos?

solid gate
#

E75 with 100 percent crew and the top gun is so so much better than stock it's crazy

spark basin
#

kinda obvious

grand hull
#

i'm thinking to do t110e5 line do you guys think it will be nerfed or etc i play mostly medium tanks and only heavy i own tier10 is e100

balmy quest
#

guys, is t57 good?

gritty ocean
#

Ehm, i tried kv1, its sooo slow but i wanna know is kv2 better or kv1s better? İ will buy one of them

grand bramble
#

Does anyone know if there going to put the cheften mk6 in the shop soon

smoky elm
# gritty ocean Ehm, i tried kv1, its sooo slow but i wanna know is kv2 better or kv1s better? İ...

I got both of them. Being truly honest, If you want something with slightly faster reload, less health, quite slow speed on stock version, go for the KV1. It's not so bad but compared to the KV2, which speed I never upgraded and I live very well with it.
The damage it's astonishing, but with the 640 damage cannon and the latest turret.
With all the armour upgrades, you can reach 1007 health with it.
The reload is a pain sadly.

smoky elm
pliant lodge
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TIger I is better though

smoky elm
#

That's true.

gritty ocean
#

Bruh dude, i cant even fight without A20 now, if i try KV-1, i die easily, if i try BT-7, always lv. 4 tanks in the enemy team.

pliant lodge
#

Why didn't the St.Emil get a buff when JP got one?

kind sorrel
#

can u guys make it so new players can also get the missile tank?

pliant lodge
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You're too late man :P

kind sorrel
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Yea

pliant lodge
#

They aren't doing anything special tbh

kind sorrel
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I would like if they did that

balmy quest
#

yeah, but they said you will have other chances

kind sorrel
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Other chances?

balmy quest
#

of getting the tank, like in events

kind sorrel
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Pay to get?

pliant lodge
#

Lol, getting a tank you can only use in fun modes

kind sorrel
#

Yes

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Will the event be pay to get

smoky elm
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The KV1 just needs some buffs. But it's.. Kinda good? Just do the upgrades and It's gonna be less worse.

pliant lodge
#

I don't get why ppl want Sheridan Missile.

kind sorrel
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It can shot missiles

supple bolt
pliant lodge
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Meh, it's now fun when abilities in game modes makes it harder

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Plus the missiles are overrated

kind sorrel
#

They could have done is replace the HEAT with HE that way it would do less damage

pliant lodge
#

And make a new T49A? No

crystal hare
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SU-100M1 is lit

marble osprey
#

Nah, 65 Ton Conquerer gamer is lit

nocturne sage
#

Bruh u dumb stock at 7 is where it’s at

brittle atlas
#

finnaly got the fv 215b 183, tips trick and equipment suggestions are needed

novel frigate
#

Tips on Emil 1 I'm about to get it, is it ok stock?

rugged meadow
#

how much does the IS-5 cost?

plucky summit
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1500 gold if you're in a leveled clan

candid harbor
rugged meadow
novel frigate
plucky summit
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It's meh stock, but still gets a nice turret, hulldown as much as possible, the usual

novel frigate
#

Ight thanks

icy scroll
#

are Japanese tier IX and X tank fighters good? is it worth having them?

plucky summit
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Yes, both are solid

the tier 10s, anyways

icy scroll
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Thank you

plucky summit
#

👌

icy scroll
#

do I buy the E 75 or the Japanese IX fighter tank? I researched the E 75 a long time ago, there is just no money left

wise yacht
#

Type 61 if u want passive gameplay, E 50 if u want agressive gameplay

icy scroll
#

okay thank you

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it's fun to play with japanese armor

plucky summit
#

Unfortunately the Type 61 is a paper fighter, terrible armor, the Ho-Ri Type II is armored, but not sturdy enough, with only mistakes getting you bounces

icy scroll
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that Ho-Ri I don’t know the name of that fighter tank VIII is really cool to play it’s fun to shoot enemy tanks

plucky summit
#

Yup, also sturdy but unreliable, the main point of that line is the gun

icy scroll
#

true

plucky summit
#

The STB-1 is probably a more capable tank anyways

icy scroll
#

Too bad there are no Italian and Japanese heavyweights in the blitz :/

plucky summit
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The Italian ones just came out on the big brother, and the Japanese heavies are too big and extreme for Blitz

icy scroll
#

okay

brazen tangle
#

Should i free xp the two gun upgrades on the su100 once i get it?

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Or is it not worth using xp for that

nocturne tiger
#

I think it's really not worth using free exp imo, maybe save it for something better

plucky summit
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If you want a good grind to 152, then sure, but I'd rather just progress

nocturne tiger
#

yeah^

brazen tangle
#

True, its quite a bit of xp ngl

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Might just start with stock gun ig

shell sedge
#

Ye that's true

solid gate
#

How can I play with arl 44, I get killed all the time and it gets penetrated all the time

shell sedge
#

All you have to do is use it as a sniper tank and don't rush into battle snip then wait till a few remain then mop em up

nocturne tiger
#

I just got the Wt auf PZ. IV

How do I play it properly and which gun do I use?
I'm currently stock in it as of now

lyric oriole
#

The 155mm guns, and you can play it long range or medium range

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It's pretty broken right now

nocturne tiger
#

Ah, alright thanks.

I'm already searching through YouTube so that I know what my tank is good at

smoky elm
elder remnant
#

Which premium WZ is better

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Uncrushable our celestial

lyric oriole
#

Uncrushable? Uh

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Never heard of that one

#

Is that a miss translation from Invincible?

elder remnant
#

It’s the premium skin I believe for the WZ-111 then the celestial is the WZ-112

floral rain
#

112-2

lyric oriole
#

Celestial is WZ-112-2 and WZ-111's Legendary camo is Pixel Wave

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Also WZ-112-2 is much better

elder remnant
solid gate
#

That’s fire sentinel

lyric oriole
#

Not sure why the camo is bunched with the rare ones lol, but it's exclusive

floral rain
#

lmao 0 xp on the tank

lyric oriole
#

I've played it a fair amount, it's just when I've converted XP it's taken it off that tank

elder remnant
#

Anyways I originally thought the 112 was better but because of the fire sentinels armor I was conflicted

lyric oriole
#

WZ-112 is pretty sub-par

#

The frontal armor is ok on the hull

#

The turret is awful

#

The rest of the hull sucks

#

The gun is mediocre

#

And it's kinda slow

floral rain
#

112 or 111

elder remnant
#

So 111 is better?

lyric oriole
#

111 is better than 112

#

111 is average

#

112 is bad

#

112-2 is fantastic

floral rain
#

oh wait lmao i forgot the 112 and 112-2 are different

elder remnant
#

Same here I got 112-2

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So 112-2 is better then WZ 111

lyric oriole
#

Yes

#

The turret and hull are much stronger

kind falcon
#

WZ-112-2 or 252U

lyric oriole
#

112-2

novel frigate
#

WZ112-2

lyric oriole
#

252u has nothing on 112-2

kind falcon
#

Ok might get one then

novel frigate
#

Pog

alpine notch
#

111 might be hard for players for who doesnt know to angle pike noses

Thats why i recommend getting 112-2 instead :)

elder remnant
#

So I got the better one then I was worried I got the weaker one

kind falcon
#

I have too many russian heavies

elder remnant
#

I got smasher

alpine notch
#

I have too many german tanks in garage

lyric oriole
kind falcon
#

It would be cool if you could trade in vehicles like in pc. I dont really want my IS-2sh and it would be cool to trade it in for a discount on the 112-2

alpine notch
elder remnant
plucky summit
#

Depends on if you wanna gamble massive damage or not

elder remnant
#

I prefer damage and armor over all

hollow moth
#

Yes, if you know how to deal with long reloads, bad armor, bad mobility and limited turrets

Otherwise your stats will go boom

novel frigate
#

Going through the tortoise sucks so have fun with that if you decide to go for it

elder remnant
#

Well I can almost get the tortoise but I heard it has its advantages

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Well it’s either that our the paper thin armored fast tank in the German section but this tank seems to be more armored which is a personal preference of mine

floral rain
#

183 has no armor apart from an occasional bounce

elder remnant
#

Rhm tree what’s mean^^

floral rain
#

grille has even less armor and is an HE magnet

neat nimbus
#

i wish wg puts back desert wind

solid gate
#

is it the tank or is it me

alpine notch
#

Probably just you

candid lark
#

or the teams you have

kind falcon
#

How are you playing it? If you play too aggressively in it you will not do so well

candid lark
#

play hull down and your nearly unstoppable

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or play correctly

floral rain
#

shocking: playing a tank correctly means you do well in it

candid lark
#

if u see an amx ac 46 on your team, it means your a bad player

solid gate
floral rain
#

which emil...

solid gate
#

Nvm I sold it

lethal kindle
#

??? There's no way krav is worse than Emil 2, maybe you have to know how to play t10 correctly

floral rain
#

why would you sell tier 10 tanks bruh

hollow moth
#

Don't be the "I don't like tank X, so I'll sell it", one day you'll dominate it and when you do, it'll be too late

solid gate
#

Yeah I sold and rebought it once before, I still hate it so gonna use the 3 mil credits on smth else

floral rain
#

you can always just keep the tank into the garage until you understand the playstyle of it

lethal kindle
#

I mean like, you could sell a t10 collector or prem as they can be restored anytime and use your gold for something better

solid gate
#

How do you have sub 2K damage in the Emil 1

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Apparently it was enough

hollow moth
#

When I still was a newbie, I got 268 and sold it because I struggled too much

When I understood it's playstyle, I went through some pain to grind all the credits back

lethal kindle
#

I mean like, I sold t22 twice, badger once

floral rain
#

you can get those back as long as you have gold, there's no net loss

#

you're losing at least 3 million credits when selling a tech tree tier 10

lethal kindle
#

6m*

hollow moth
#

I sold most of my premiums cuz most of them are boring, nowadays I struggle even more to get all the credits back

solid gate
#

With the 3 mil credits I can recover 2 prems which will be worth it

hollow moth
#

Kinda, but i believe that a T10 is more worth than 2 tier 7 premiums

solid gate
#

and I sold the e50m and kranvagn once before as well, got them both back and loved the e50m, still hated the kran
1 t8, 1 t7 prem, pretty worth it

lethal kindle
#

what? Why sold e50m

solid gate
#

with 75 percent crew it was terrible

hollow moth
#

I'm struggling a lot in Bat Chat and I don't play it anymore to don't make it's stats worse, but anyways, I do not sell T10 tanks anymore

lethal kindle
#

@solid gate then use gold for the crew bruh

solid gate
#

I did, when the 16000 gold bundle came out
which is how I came to love the tank

hollow moth
solid gate
lethal kindle
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It's painful grinding crew in t10, so id rather use gold

floral rain
#

alright using gold for crews is understandable but selling tech tree tier 10s isn't

solid gate
#

I get that
I might regret it later but for now my headache is gone

storm robin
#

Hmmmm... should I go for the BP or T29 first?

floral rain
#

you don't need to play the tank lmao

hollow moth
#

Go for T29, it's line is much more friendly @storm robin

floral rain
#

^

solid gate
floral rain
#

that you bought for 6 million but either way fun > stats

solid gate
#

Yes

hollow moth
#

I'll be playing Bat Chat only when I become a real good player, meanwhile I still the ok one, it won't fit my playstyle

candid harbor
#

ehh you can grind stats later

candid harbor
hollow moth
#

I was going to grind the Sheridan line but damn, T49 is really not my playstyle

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I'm used to work with low penetration, but 152mm HEAT pen...

candid harbor
#

struggling with 152mm?
try going for ambush, set up your shot and wait for target to drive into it
or actively hunt lightly armored targets

lyric copper
#

the T49 is the gambling in WoTB lool

hollow moth
#

I recently decided to continue the grind on T49 when I get a good ammount of free EXP, my grinding is being about free exp instead of playing it effectively

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I hope that I won't struggle so much in T92E1, otherwise I'll get another grudge with light tanks

solid gate
#

T49 and t92 play really different

lyric oriole
#

You should be running calibrated shells on T49

steep quiver
#

So with the premium tanks in the tech tree, which tanks are the best for each tier

solid gate
#

With t49 since everyone in the tiers are just as squishy as you if not thinner it’s easy to hunt down enemies and catch up to them with T92 you can only tackle one at a time and depending on the target risk a lot of health you accelerate much faster but still have a slower max speed you can penetrate your targets much better but you no longer have the massive alpha advantage of your predecessor

lyric oriole
#

It's worth noting that the 105mm works well on T92E1 if a different playstyle is preferred

solid gate
#

Laughs in any medium but true

candid harbor
fluid parrot
candid harbor
#

watch ads to get gold

hollow moth
#

All I can recommend is gold the crew if you can and run double food provision, get better cannons as soon as possible@fluid parrot

swift trout
#

@fluid parrot the fact you are using no prammo, no camo, not full provisions or consumables angers me

hollow moth
#

Skirmish is a good way to grind tanks with bad precision tho, smaller maps = closer enemy = easier to hit

solid gate
#

They have only 176k credits too so buying that patton was not a good idea at all

steep quiver
swift trout
#

Löwe for German credits
KV-5 for Russian bias
T34 for obesity

steep quiver
#

But good to know for now I guess?

swift trout
#

Löwe is a must buy though, it's such a good tank

#

Badger

steep quiver
lyric copper
#

VK 90 then lol

#

2 tanks

#

so is the FT AC what’s ur point

solid gate
#

121b is bad wym

swift trout
#

Badger needs spanking into shape
It's obese

gentle wasp
#

same could be said for this

hollow moth
# steep quiver Hmm

Based in my personal opinion about tech tree premium tanks

Tier 5: Panzer 5/4, because of it's trollish frontal armor, versatility and ram capability, it's pretty fun tho but I rarely play tier 5 anyways
Tier 6: SU-100Y, D. Max or TOG 2 (choose the one that fits more your playstyle)

  • SU-100y is just the deadliest tier 6 tank because of it's prammo, a real good semi derp
  • D. Max is simply the best sniper in tier 6 when conpared to other premium, it have agility, concealment, precision, penetration and DPM
  • Tog 2 got buffed recently, looks extremely funny nowadays, but not thay good if you're not used to slow things
    Tier 7: SU-122-44 and AT15A are simply the only interesting tech tree premiums at this tier, one is a medium tank with 122mm gun and ither is a downtiered AT-15
    Tier 8: Jagdtiger 8,8cm, T34 or Löwe, all the three are very good tho (mostly Jagdtiger 8,8 post buff(
solid gate
#

@solid gate 121B is pretty bad in today’s meta I frankly don’t care if your trolling or just ignorant

candid harbor
#

lmao
he newb, like all the cyan dudes

gentle wasp
steep quiver
#

So I'm guessing I got tier 6 covered since I already own the SU100Y and the TOG

#

That ain't the first time I've seen someone say that
And I can't help but kind of agree

candid harbor
#

you can penetrate it with rammer gold on meds lel

hollow moth
#

I like how POG 2 got unnecessary buffed again, but welp

swift trout
#

#Buff it again

candid harbor
#

@solid gate yea, cheeks of 121b are in range of 276mm to 310mm,whilst hulldown

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even 250 in tiny spots

steep quiver
candid harbor
#

if you are assuming if something is penetrateable or not via in game hit skins then you are in wrong as they aren't always accurate

hollow moth
#

I see Matilda BP as something boring, that alpha is too low for me

But about the T7 TDs, I recommend SU-122-44 more than AT-15A@🍞MasonCat131215🌺#3309

solid gate
#

They still didn’t fix the e75 TS hit skins as it’s still broken

candid harbor
#

super Pershing in same boat

hollow moth
#

2 years ago I used to see SP as a real heavy tank, now it just look the most paper thing

steep quiver
#

I was leaning more towards the SU anyways so I can see that. Also what other information do you have about the P5/4

candid harbor
fluid parrot
solid gate
#

What did you sell

hollow moth
# steep quiver I was leaning more towards the SU anyways so I can see that. Also what other inf...

The gun is a bit under the average in therms of penetration, but the other firepower stats are pretty normal

The frontal armor is trollish and works well as a medium tank, it makes you able to ram very well other tanks and bounce more than you expect

The agility have the "German quality seal", nothing too fast, but the speed is impressive for it's size and weight

It's basically the E50M tier 5

solid gate
#

Your in a bad spot either way since you have enough gold to upgrade it fully but not enough creds to fully upgrade it

hollow moth
solid gate
#

The new turret improves the aim time and dispo iirc it’s a must have like the t29

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Why do you want to know?

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I don’t do platoons sorry

floral rain
#

lmao

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nah i have asian parents give me like at least 3 hours lmao

steep quiver
solid gate
floral rain
#

i'll message you if i can platoon if i don't then vibe without me

hollow moth
#

Much people play better when playing solo, I feel quite uncomfortable when I'm platooning and it affects my game for exemple

plucky summit
#

I'll platoon, T-2020 only

steep quiver
fast compass
#

Whenever i platoon i feel additional pressure for doing well.

plucky summit
#

I promise I'll average 2k damage :3

hollow moth
solid gate
plucky summit
#

I care ||not||

steep quiver
plucky summit
#

I toon with one person usually, but now I’m tooning with more since the one person stopped playing very often

floral rain
#

lmao i just let my actually good friend carry me

steep quiver
hollow moth
#

I do only platoon with close friends, otherwise, I'll do bad

fast compass
#

I only toon when my clanmates need it. Rn my clan has enough activity to reach all rewards as long as I do my normal missions.

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The issue is, i am like one of the worst players in the clan. But atleast they are very friendly

hollow moth
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I don't remember doing a platoon clan mission once for exemple, I mostly enter in unknown clans so I don't platoon with them

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I have problems to socialize with new people too so... well, platoon with clan mates were rarely a viable thing for me

steep quiver
#

I also suffer with a bunch of constant stress. And the fact that I can't see the game chat since I'm on switch really adds onto that stress

warm orchid
#

How does the FV201 (A45) handle?

#

Chat was on the switch once upon a time

solid gate
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@warm orchid it's like a Black Prince, but a premium version

lethal kindle
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*it's a Caernarvons, but in t7

warm orchid
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Thank you but is it fun

lethal kindle
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Are u that type of guy that will make people cry for not being able to move? @warm orchid

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Then fear not, that is a very good deal for you

floral rain
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Run rammer fv201 for permatracking lmao

warm orchid
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Haha hmm great 👍🏽 ideas

solid gate
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What really irks me is the armour on those British light tanks

twin mural
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Can Smasher be buffed?

static harness
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How about no?

solid gate
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FV201 (A45) worth to buy?

median tree
median tree
willow plinth
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Wow. A fancy black prince. I buy

Jk i dont even have gold

hollow moth
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Lol I bought it

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I have a history of buying idiotic tanks when they're cheap, WZ blaze and 50t are exemple

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Ngl, I liked A45 gameplay, it has enough DPM and HP to delete a tier 8 with low armor in close ranges

lyric copper
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ah someone knows the actual designation

storm blade
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k so i have a choice to buy either
T92E1
Mauschen
SP 1 C
ISU-152
KV-4
centurion 1
or emil 2
i have 4 million credits rn
which should i buy?

solid gate
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Uh mauschen

late niche
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isu lol

lyric copper
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buy isu and fulfill your duty

hollow notch
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Emil 2
Grind out the kran

late niche
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better question:
IS or KV 3? I have 8k research with KV 1 s and 41k with KV 2 butu i want to get kv 1s to kv 3 so i can get41k bonus research for crew but is this a good idea or am i an idiot lol

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both kv 1s and kv 2 are maxed btw

lyric copper
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KV-3 leads to the better tier X, but the IS makes the grind for the other line far easier

late niche
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so is it is

novel frigate
neat nimbus
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tog defender

west lark
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Hello

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Really stupid question
But I cant decide if to go for the t69 or the RHM

woven ravine
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Cent 7/1 top hesh gun for 100 xp is that a bug ?
Used to be 100 k xp

silver crater
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maybe they try to be funny

brave night
foggy prawn
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will the tiger 131 come out again?

blissful edge
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What are the meta T10s for tourneys or ranked?

lyric copper
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@blissful edge firstly, appreciate the pfp

secondly,

HTs: IS-4, T110E5, Maus
MTs: not much idea, but judging on Autumn finals, Prog.65, T-22, probably STB-1 too
LTs: Vickers Light
TDs: (not used commonly in tourns) probably the T110E3

blissful edge
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Thanks lol, Hood was actually my #1 before I realized the insane damage Richie can put out, I appreciate the quick response
How are you supposed to acquire the T-22?

lyric copper
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@blissful edge extreme wealth/ getting shinano level of luck

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salty tears of not getting sleepy floof

blissful edge
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Shinano 🙈

west lark
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Really stupid question
But I cant decide if to go for the t69 or the RHM

hollow moth
brave night