vehicles-discussion

[glass relic]

😣 i really like it.

And yes you probably suffered on it's trolly accuracy when trying to hit something that is supposed to be a clean shot.

I'm surprised it has a very nice bloom, making it easier for me to get a snap shot.

[zealous anchor]

yea I found it's on the move accuracy good at the start, but I can't rememebr why, maybe I was frontline

[acoustic ginkgo]

i finally got icebreaker : D

it kinda worth it to spend money on it

[glass relic]

The bloom wasn't so big when you're turning your hull. But need a steady ground to have full accuracy potential

And 7degree of gun depression is juicy, for a tank that has a gun in the center and near top of the casemate hull, meaning i won't have to expose much, need to hope no one shoot my cupola, but In the end of the day, it's still better than using my HoRi

That prob sums it up why i like the 111-1gft so much, because the gun is like in the center and placed near the top of casemate, unlike Foch they put their guns in the center.

[zealous anchor]

I see

[fast compass]

Foch also lacks gun depression in comparison with only 5 and that awful bloom

[glass relic]

Yeah that's why, i feel more comfortable on the 268, it has not so big bloom, and a very nice reverse not to mention 7 degree is basically like 62a worth of flexibility over ridges.

I'm just still thinking of either CS or Rammer, but probably rammer would be better as CS will overkill's the heat pen which already can pen most heavily armoured tanks at the tier already anyway.

[fast compass]

Looking forward to getting the 268. Just reached 704.

Yeah rammer is probably better.

[glass relic]

704 dpm is amazing, but overall tank profile, i don't like it other than being so stealthy.

For now I'll focus on maxing my crew in mad games and grinding credits at the same time. So i can either buy Kranbang or 113gft

[proud spruce]

so i vote the t30 gets a legindary camo

[cosmic girder]

yeah

[cold jackal]

Sadly it's only available in bundles and special events.

[final night]

We need to make FV183 armor like a Maus

[proud spruce]

NO lmao

[final adder]

bro t95 has to get its "doom turtle" legendary camo first, common m8 xd

[proud spruce]

BRO FACTS

[final adder]

should have taken higher priority then removing atgm's

[proud spruce]

have the mantlet like a snapping tertles mouth

[jovial bloom]

T95 doom turtle camo would be so much appreciated

[final adder]

dude the #'s for peoples name, that should be one xd

[proud spruce]

i would buy back t95 just for that

[final adder]

bro everyone would xd

[proud spruce]

make t95 most played again lmao

[jovial bloom]

T95 need a little buff

[proud spruce]

just needs its old lower plate back then it would be fine

[final adder]

THE GERMAN Waffle tractor will be no more, this is the age of the DOOM TURTLE xd

tbh sometimes i feel like im cult leader

[jovial bloom]

T95 buff plan
-Increase roof to 70mm
-increase lower hull armor from 133 to 152 mm back

• increase track side skirts to 70mm (side skrits that have been nerfed from 100 to 51 mm in update 4.2)
  Edit : ah increase the upper side armor 51 mm to 70mm

And boom our doom turtle back

[kindred wren]

I love this bot. Anyways, here’s my buff plan for the T95:

Thanks for your attention

[jovial bloom]

Bruuuh

[final adder]

dam just as empty and unforgiving as my soul

[kindred wren]

Lol

[proud spruce]

alright i alright but if we do that gatta take away super speed consumable

if that armor profile can go almost 30 then its to much

[solid gate]

the type 61 is a good tank

[proud spruce]

i enjoy it

exuse me i mixed up the type 61 and type 62, how is the type 61

[lyric copper]

it’s quite good actually

[lyric oriole]

Like a 46 Patton with slightly less armor but better almost everything

[solid gate]

idk why ppl dog on it so much, its just kinda bad if its stock

[solid gate]

Can a heavy tank player play as heavy with T110E4?

[lyric copper]

sorta yeah

[solid gate]

Is it good as tank?

[lyric copper]

well it is a tank

[solid gate]

I mean, it's armor, dpm?

[lyric copper]

cupola is an ez pen, DPM is fine

[solid gate]

Ok thanks

[hollow notch]

Don't get shot, practice the art of meatshielding

[candid harbor]

Dear_HRS is great at that, not his simp or anything but the amount of salt that guy puts out is uncanny

[proud spruce]

it entertains me that yal rag on other players

[gentle wasp]

it would be funnier if you got the joke

[proud spruce]

probubly but again im entertained so whatever

[brave night]

Lol

[warm snow]

hows the 59 patton? on sale for 6k gold

[tulip sail]

Its not super competitive but it is fun baiting with the cupola and is a good tank but not an easy playing one

[gentle wasp]

it's basic but challenging at the same time.

[candid slate]

Opinions, what’s next tech tree tank after releasing tvp?

Me: only wg knows.

[hollow notch]

Soviet lights I would assume

[brittle atlas]

swedish td has to come out, just somehow cramm in the weird mechanic that it has

[tulip sundial]

They can’t, it’s a mobile game they wouldn’t add that till they can figure exactly how it would work

[radiant coral]

That’s the problem

[brittle atlas]

ik

[radiant coral]

I mean, it could be possible but geez, that will take the developers much time and as well money

[brittle atlas]

like what does it do exactly?

[radiant coral]

You mean the mechanic ?
(My brain doesn’t work very well, sorry)

[brittle atlas]

does it tilt the hull giving more gun depression and armor?

[radiant coral]

Well you mean hydraulic suspension, I thought you were talking about the gun mechanic of them nvm, anyways, yes it does and it should that’s the logic of it, making/giving the tank more possibilities

[solid gate]

No? The gun needs the suspension just to even aim it’s fixed into the hull and can’t move

[radiant coral]

Wait hol up
Ah k Gotcha

[low rampart]

A Stug with a broken turret! It's done, easy task.

[radiant coral]

I mean, they probably would plan it tho, I would like it but Wargaming aka Blitz haven’t mentioned anything really, that it will come, unfortunately but I’m still curious

[tulip sail]

They've only mentioned that its not comming

[radiant coral]

As mentioned, again, who know’s tho ? I let it come over no one of us really knows what will come soo, we will see

[tulip sail]

This seems pretty definitive that they arent working on it

[solid gate]

wow. bruh

their TD line performs relatively similar to the Russian TDs from what I've seen

[tulip sail]

Their suspension isn't compatible

[solid gate]

huh really?

can't see why the Stridsvagen 103 couldn't work

What does “gun is fixed into hull” not mean to people apparently

ohhhh. I completely forget about that. been a while since I last looked into the strids

gotta find that tank encyclopedia I have and read up on them again

[static harness]

In the end
We may get a single tank with that suspension system
And it will be a t8 premiun
(If)

[solid gate]

what else would you expect? WG bringing the fun to everyone? That's preposterous

[balmy wagon]

Kpfpz 70 has hydropneumatic suspension too irl

[solid gate]

Yeah

[scarlet echo]

Can anyone else get in mad games???

[solid gate]

It’s over till tomorrow

[karmic nymph]

So did the stb 1

[minor mica]

Can a jag e100 pen the gun mantle on the amx 54 in a certain angle or not at all ?

[patent arch]

yea u can

[fleet rock]

hello , is the 252U the strongest tank in tier 8 ?

because i notice very hard to pen it in lots of battles

the armor have a level of 94 in tankopedia , wtf lol

[balmy wagon]

No

[fleet rock]

i think the valor of the armor in tankopedia are often shittttty

94 is valor for tier 10

[kindred wren]

It is one of the best armoured tanks at tier eight, yes, and thus very popular in tournaments and very good for holding a defensive position, but in randoms the rather poor gunhandling and lowish mobility can really get you

[fleet rock]

@kindred wren ok thanks

maybe i will regret for the auction of it lol

[distant nymph]

How do you think a line of let’s say light tanks or medium tanks with gravedigger style guns will work? Will they be OP or super bad? What do ya think?

[kindred wren]

They will be op against the lower tier, ok against their own tier, and weak against their higher tier because those guns have high clip potential but long unloading times and low pen

[distant nymph]

I think I’ll make a line of Japanese light tanks with such guns just for the lols. And make it so the player has a choice - a gravedigger gun or a relatively small derp gun (for the tier)

[kindred wren]

Will you try to make it with Blitz stats or just freely chosen stats?

[distant nymph]

Freely chosen stats. Will make em good not OP tanks, of course

[kindred wren]

Ok, have fun

[chrome fog]

nashorn line or jg pz iv line,which is better

[storm robin]

Jg Pz IV line is general better for newbies, at least that line has armour you can rely on

[stark crown]

Me su-100y

[icy scarab]

@candid flare

[karmic nymph]

@fleet rock you shouldn’t regret getting it, if you just hide the lower plate you are golden

[gentle wasp]

it's not even released yet, hopefully it will get buffed before it drops

[brave night]

2 sec interclip is fine

[calm drum]

Snopidog#4677 has been warned.

[candid harbor]

i didn't even manage to read the whole thing.....

[lyric oriole]

I don't think this is the only channel he posted it in

[brave night]

#tank-balance-discussion

[candid harbor]

lemme hunt

[lyric oriole]

Go to #tank-balance-discussion @candid harbor read it and then I'll delete ut

[candid harbor]

@lyric oriole thnx

[golden egret]

why is m60 only 100000 credits?????

[kindred wren]

Because it was a gift to ‘loyal players’ at first

the memory fades but the salt remains

[solid gate]

obj. 263 or Obj. 268

[gentle wasp]

268

[solid gate]

figured since it's got the is-7 armor

[lyric copper]

268 is an IS-8 hull @solid gate

[solid gate]

oh my bad

[lyric oriole]

263 technically uses an IS-7 Chassis but obviously the armor is not at all in the same league

[lyric copper]

it also uses a variant of the gun, the IS-7 uses the 130mm S-70, the 263 has the S-70A

[solid gate]

Why do I still have to pay for tank repairs if I don't get damaged?

[lyric copper]

slight track damage

[solid gate]

Thanks.

[prisma saffron]

Guys is the is5 worth it?

[solid gate]

Basically all of the TDs have a couple of letters added to their guns when in reality they’re the exact same as their turret counterparts

Because module sharing hurts profits

[gentle wasp]

for an early premium and/or F2P absolutely

[solid gate]

Yeah, at that price for a T8 premium... there’s nothing not to like

The tank is pretty bad but can’t expect it to be anything much of WG is selling it for the price of a tier 5

[prisma saffron]

1.5k gold for more credits per battle and some litle diferneces from the is3 so i think its worth it

[solid gate]

Of course, if you’re spending more on the game already the tank is completely obsolete, but for F2Ps it’s great to have to get credits

@solid gate (in context to the 263 it’s not auto loaded like IS7 and uses a different muzzle brake

[prisma saffron]

Since i don't have any is a tank at tier 8 ill go for the is5

[solid gate]

Well, they are still very much the same base gun. I can see for that gun the difference perhaps, but the guns on the AT line not being compatible anywhere else is... no.

[prisma saffron]

So guys ur final answers should i go for it? (I got e75ts and i am f2p player)

[solid gate]

Same with the guns on the E3 line and the Foch line, but less egregious

Actually, I take it back. The Foch line is just as egregious because they were autoloading as well.

[solid gate]

Well yeah, if you’re an F2P it’s a good buy

[prisma saffron]

Ok thx

I have 3 premuims su100y and i play it full gold so i earn credits like tech tree tanks and su122-44 which is average in earning credits and e75ts which is the best tank i have to earn credits (and matilda bp)

Ill add is5 to my collection so i don't get bored from e75ts

I got su122-44 for free from mystery containers bcs i bought only2 for 500 gold i got in the first one my 500 gold back and in the second one a mystert certificate which gave me the su122-44 (i think i got luck with containers)

[soft tiger]

Which one? Please only answer if you know stats and the info on these tanks. Don’t just say the Indien-Pz cuz it’s more xp.

[static harness]

I wouldn't even play the indien if you payed me to

[rapid orchid]

Ru 251 is good for its speed and you can research leopard Prototype after it without researching indien

[gusty ginkgo]

The RU is a better tank but much harder to play, the Indian is a good tank but lacks in some small things

[solid gate]

:V

[soft tiger]

Why is the indien for noobs?

[solid gate]

Because.

[vast escarp]

if you want to get shot by HE use RU Or if you want to Rush B and die then Indien PZ

[lethal kindle]

@soft tiger because it sucks, every t8 is better than it

[final night]

Indien is not that good. Get RU

[solid gate]

Is the E50M just a slightly improved version of the E50? More turret armor and hp and engine power but the hull armor stays the same and traverse is much worse

[lethal kindle]

Well yes but actually no

[soft imp]

Ru251 is for the better players
You got the speed, low profile and lovely HE
Indien is decent now but just your regular medium on t8, ru is one of my fav tech tree t8s

[wooden crater]

are you comparing it to the unupgraded e50m?
because it improves over the e50 by alot, and e50m's traverse is in fact better than the e50's

[solid gate]

Oh I forgot I shouldn't be comparing it in the tech tree thing

[wooden crater]

hol up, i put cali on e50 and rammer on e50m

[solid gate]

Oh wow ok so it improves in almost every way
OK ty

[quartz socket]

RU 251

easy to ace to

i have 13 ace in ru @soft tiger

[woven cradle]

Just beware of high-calibre tanks. The RU is paper, so everyone’s gonna spam HE on u. Try and use your tracks and gun mantlet to reduce the chance of higher damage.

[quartz socket]

yes

this is one of my gameplay, i did not play good though.....so if ur style is speed tanks like me go for RU. it is my favourite tank

[woven cradle]

using your modules to take HE hits causes splash damage, reducing the alpha per shot. That gives you an advantage.

but, beware, stock RU is trashy. Make sure u have free xp to upgrade ur engine and tracks, or ur ded.

[quartz socket]

but your gun is rlyy good @soft tiger cuz reload of 4.9 sec and alpha of 225 and as a good HE pen

[woven cradle]

a paper tank with bad mobility is a recipe for disaster and destroyed WR.

[quartz socket]

yes @soft tiger STOCK is hard to play but once u upgrade it completely dang it is RLYY good

[woven cradle]

Ye, the HE pen is heavenly, and with the top modules u have a really gud mobilite. Plus, it hits 80kmph, so if ur the last one standing u can outrun any light or medium that tries to chase you.

[tulip edge]

It has a high top speed but it is slow to accelerate, which is why I take the engine power boost consumable on it to help with that

[woven cradle]

The acceleration improves as you mount better modules. It‘s kinda good on the top engine and track

[tulip edge]

It still takes a bit to accelerate

[lethal lark]

Wat do you Guys think of the stb-1?

[solid gate]

Why do people say Emil 2 is bad? It's much more fun than the Emil 1

[tulip sundial]

But it’s bad, slow, it’s armour doesn’t hold up very well and it’s gun isn’t very accurate

[solid gate]

9 degrees of gun depression make up for the lack of armor imo and the gun idk it works pretty well

The guns good for tier 9 the armor is extremely bad

[solid gate]

At least it can bounce tier 8s and tier 9 meds unlike the amx 50 120

[solid trench]

I like it alot more than Emil 1, and armor was fine. Mobility is what I found was bad. 65%wr, 2100 avg dmg, 1200 avg xp. Not that bad...but I still sold it

[solid gate]

Jagdpanther II is good?

[compact lantern]

Enhanced Armor or Improved Assemby? for kv-1 with 122mm gun

which one

18.9 reload

[fast compass]

Do not play kv1 with the derp. 85mm will actually make it effective. And if you do plan on continue playing the kv1 after the grind, more hp is better

[untold moss]

Good, it have good speed, good gun but weak hull amour, just only show your gun mantle and you can bounce any tier 9 Note the Jgpanther ll can become good rammer to any light tank

[compact lantern]

tnx

[lethal lark]

i think the D.W.2 needs a better turret armor

[clever badger]

Please give the Tier 5 Leopard a 5 cm KwK 39 as it's current gun is highkey DOO DOO

[chrome fog]

ferdinand or jpanther II?
which is better

[sterile oar]

Depends, JPanther has good mobility and some armor (although not really)
Ferdinand is a Little slower but has better armor (but u likely gonna get prem spammed, so the armor ain’t all that useful)

Either mobility or armor to choose from

[thick trout]

JP is better all the way. It's got better gun, much better mobility and the armour on it is actually useful because you can show ~300mm when hulldown. The ferd only gets gun depression and better hull, and the hull is an easy pen for tier 8s and easy prammo pen for most tier 7s so it doesn't actually ever get to be that useful

[plucky summit]

Bruh the skill ceiling for FV4005 is as high as its own turret

[sterile oar]

Sounds promising for me, as I almost researched it

[plucky summit]

The second of my 2 battles in it today, the first one was a sniper tanker

[sterile oar]

Nice

[plucky summit]

Very good tank :3

[sterile oar]

What does the gun feel like ? Is it reliable?

[plucky summit]

@sterile oar you'll need to use the accuracy consumable for long range shots, even medium range is a bit wonky for heavies. The damage output is very good though, and perfect for secondline or even supported flanks

[untold stirrup]

@clever badger The leopard used to have a 5 cm gun before Update 5.5.

[pliant lodge]

Add WT auf WT auf :D

[clever badger]

Bring it bag WG, weirdchamp

Kinda weird WG

Turning balanced tank into pepega tank, I understand nerfing the autocannon but removing the 5cm cannon? kinda uncool

[untold stirrup]

Oh, you don't seem to know what happened in update 5.5. Oh well, that update was the worst one they ever released in this game to begin with.

[clever badger]

Good thing I'm not a veteran so I don't have 5.5 ptsd

[untold stirrup]

silent weeping intensifies

[clever badger]

Wg give us the Leopard 5cm cannon back, it's literally helpless in tier 6 unless you load prammo and if you need prammo to pen med tank side armor then it's defo bad

[sterile oar]

Sounds bad for a TD gun in terms of reliability, but as u mentioned should work for good secondline fire support

[solid gate]

How do I use pike nosed vehicles

[plucky summit]

@solid gate don't angle unless only one side of the pike is shown, hulldown as much as you can anyways

[thick trout]

A light tank with a large clip isnt super effective against tanks a tier higher? Oh no what a horrible thing 🤦‍♀️

[clever badger]

I'm just saying to give it it's original 5cm gun back as it can barely pen anything even on it's own tier

Nobody seemed to complain about that and so they removed it for no reason

[thick trout]

It's a light tank with a huge clip it's not meant to pen everything...

If you don't like the tank then there are plenty of other tanks to play that will fill the role you want, as it is the leo is fine and adding the extra gun is asking for WG to mess it up

[rigid condor]

always flank in leopard

[clever badger]

I'm not suggesting for them to buff the gun with multiple clips, that's not my point, I'm talking about it's single-shot 5cm gun it had in the first place.

That way it could help players familiarize themselves on which playstyle they prefer, and maybe we won't have too many 45% wr players. "Get a diff tank lul" completely negates the fact that tier 5 is a learning tier in which new players can familiarize themselves in said tank.

Give them the freedom to switch between fast firing mag dump option or decent gun that can't even pen too many tanks given it's a 5cm

[tulip edge]

@lethal lark Its a very good tier ten and makes grinding the line worthwhile

[green kindle]

Will the Italian heavy tanks be in blitz?

[blazing lintel]

I luv my Tiger tanks

[clever badger]

Tiger 1 is the tank you don't expect to have a good driver but once it's driver knows what they're doing it's scary to go up against

[sterile oar]

Facts !

[clever badger]

Types of Tiger 1 players are

One that thinks they're Whittmann

One that plays like Whittmann

[low rampart]

That is, until they see a superior Tiger P and retreat to their bunkers.

[plucky summit]

Or a tier 8

[clever badger]

"Superior" lmao

[nocturne sage]

So if the Sherman t23 turret could fit a long barrel 105mm and the Sherman jumbo turret could fit a short barrel 105mm, could the Sherman also fit a 90mm during ww2 or during the Cold War

[clever badger]

I guess but I'm no expert so don't take my word for it, but at the same time... why? M4's original role was infrantry support while the Jumbo was to fulfill an assault role given more armor so it could actually fight back

[rigid condor]

maybe. the 105 was not a an anti tank gun so was no high velocity, so probably could be smaller than a 90mm, also the ergonomics may not have been sutible for service.

[clever badger]

This ^

It was already hard enough to reload quicky in the M4 Firefly variant that had a 76.2 mm gun, I don't think mounting a 90mm on a Sherman is gonna help it

[rigid condor]

Wikipedia quote: "Despite the Ordnance Department's development of new 76 mm and 90 mm anti-tank guns, the Army Ground Forces rejected their deployment as unnecessary. An attempt to upgrade the M4 Sherman by installing the 90 mm-armed turret from the T26 tank project on an M4 hull in April 1944 was halted after realizing it could not go into production sooner than the T26 and would likely delay T26 development.[64] " so basicaly there was no point, by the time it was ready pershing would have already been in service.

[nocturne sage]

Now I wonder how effective it would been now if the Pershing was still in being thought of. I mean the super Sherman had a 105 gun and I would assume the breach of the gun would have been pretty big

[clever badger]

You can go ahead and watch Potential History's "the American tank meme" he explains onto detais as to why the Americans were reluctant to even put a British 17 pounder gun on a Sherman

While Germans continuosly made improvement upon improvement on their tanks, albeit the fact that it doesn't make that much of a significant difference, it was one of the things that slowed their production rates. Americans hower (including the Soviets) had no such limits in tank production and therefore they could produce tanks just as fast as they did in WW2 had they kept adding on upgrades, but since American doctrine on tank production was "It should add any significant improvement to the latter versions AND should be easy to repair on the field" and so they didn't really make the Pershing as fast as they could because the Easy 8s and Sherman Jumbos could already do the job just fine and the Persing was pretty much just them saying "we can make an even cooler tank"

[nocturne sage]

I saw potential history video on tank meme (love his channel) and the Americans also wanted the Pershing to be a functional and reliable (in terms of not breaking down often) tank. Same thing happened with the early 76 guns for the Sherman it worked on a technical term but the ergonomics wasn’t there. On another note the Americans had the 76 just in case they needed more firepower not just as a response to the big cats

[solid gate]

@nocturne sage no different breaches the 90mm (for the old Sherman turrets) couldn’t fit along with ammo the 105mm French gun can fit since it’s low pressure and fires HEAT and other rounds unlike the higher pressure guns of the war

[nocturne sage]

Aahh ok

[meager bear]

buff e100 tracks pls are so weak...

[plucky summit]

Doubt.

[meager bear]

and turret...

[plucky summit]

Hey now it's Maus' job to be braindead

[manic mirage]

How do you change the gun sounds?

[lyric copper]

mods mostly

[manic mirage]

all of them are like 5.8 though

[unique shale]

MT-25 or T-34-85?

[gentle wasp]

MT

[unique shale]

hmm

[glass relic]

MT gun goes pew pew meme

[unique shale]

and t 34?

[glass relic]

Average, and ironically the MT gun can deal more damage than T-34-85 for being a light tank, but it does need to pen your targets, to get the full damage potential.

[unique shale]

hmm thats kinda crazy

[glass relic]

90x3 can give you 300 if you got a good roll but, even then you'd still can deal more than 200 if you fully pen the auto cannon. Shells.

[unique shale]

appreciate the help man 💯

[glass relic]

It looks kinda ugly, but the thing Is Chonk hard to ram by other mediums and LTs, so even if you got side wiped by a drac you'd still kinda feel healthy for a bit.

[unique shale]

so basically the mt is a demon

[lyric copper]

when it can pen yes

[unique shale]

time to go stoopid then 👽

[hollow moth]

Damn, E100 is my new fav tank

[solid gate]

It's my fav too

[untold stirrup]

E 100 literally replaces almost any tier 10 TD

[azure palm]

Which one is better EMIL 1951 or Emil 1 ?

[gentle wasp]

debatable but I would go with Emil 1

[lyric copper]

honestly I like the look of the emil 1 more

[hollow moth]

After playing 26 battles with it (ik it's quite low, but enough to understand it's playstyle) + gamemodes, I changed my mind about this statement @untold stirrup

E100 is much more versatile and useful than a lot of TDs I meet in T10

For 4 simple reasons

• Good armor
• Big gun
• Good armor
• Turret

[plucky summit]

Also -Good armor

[untold stirrup]

coincidentally I just spam E 100 to improve rating instead of using something like 268 but that's personal preference
Well it has a 15cm gun with TD like penetration when using CS, has a ton of HP and a turret along with thick armor.

[lyric copper]

also HE spamming people who think their hull down strat will save them, and then watching them cry

[hollow moth]

Actually 6 reasons @plucky summit

• Good armor
• The armor is great
• Seriously, that armor profile is incredible when well angled
• Big gun
• Good armor
• Turret

[plucky summit]

You're still forgetting - Good armor

[supple moth]

Is the WZ-113 worth it

[wise moth]

Yes, I love the 113. It might not be a comfy drive, but once you're used to it, it's fantastic

[untold stirrup]

113 heavily punishes bad positioning though

[plucky summit]

As well as gets punished considerably for its bad positioning

[solid gate]

But many people use prammo

[manic mirage]

How do you make custom camos?

[solid gate]

I do not have the slightest idea

[storm blade]

pretty sure ye cant

[solid gate]

?

[manic mirage]

i see other people with them

[storm blade]

maybe mods?

[manic mirage]

yes mods i was just trying to figure it out

[hollow moth]

It's simple, you can make your turret obliterate prammo doing 3 simple tactics at the same time

• Angle your turret (meds without CS won't pen anymore)
• Move, go forward while angling if you are in clean terrain or wiggle if you are in close area (moving targets are harder to aim and hit)
• Use all the possible cover (it'll hide at least your lower plate, tall buildings as cover can hide your turret cheeks too)

And there's also a useful tip; do not over-angle, it'll make the armor behind your tracks penetrable for AP and APCR with good pen

[tulip sundial]

Side skirts on E-100 are voids as well

[lyric copper]

of course if ur facehugging an IS-4 and he knows how to load prammo, may as well give up angling

[trim heart]

So I bought the WZ Blaze for 3K gold. Um...was this a horrendous mistake and why?

[gentle wasp]

3k isn't brutal unless you're F2P, but it's a bad tank.

[trim heart]

Ah

[lyric copper]

if you really don’t want it, go to WG support and ask for a refund, getting a refund from the AppStore/ android locks your account

[gentle wasp]

^ assuming you haven't played it yet

[trim heart]

Hold up, what's F2P and what do yoy mean exactly by "locked account"?

[gentle wasp]

free to play, meaning you don't spend money on the game to get gold, tanks, etc.

He means that if you try to get a refund that way, WG will lock down your account for a chargeback violation, and you won't be able to play until you complete a tedious process. It's just best to go through support.

[trim heart]

Mm
Well, thank you. And yes I am F2P. I guess I'll just have to play the tank for myself

[lyric copper]

just be very scared of SU-152s and it’s bigger brother, the ISU-152

[trim heart]

Of course. I think that should go for all tier 7 and 8s. WZ Blaze ain't that bad. Hull turning rate is a little disappointing, but other than that pretty legit

[tulip sail]

Its much better than before its buffs

[unique shale]

Which line is better? the mt-25 line or the t-34-85 line?

[lyric copper]

you want speed or a generalist

[unique shale]

I want a easy life

[tulip sundial]

T-34-85 is probably better for you then

[gentle wasp]

light line is more fun and probably better overall, but med line teaches the playstyle and gives you more modules down the road.

[tulip sundial]

LTTB is a lot better than T-43

[unique shale]

Hmm i think i might just go light tank line then

[trim heart]

Splendidly put, good sir

[unique shale]

😁

[solid gate]

My winrate in the E50 after 34 games is below 50 percent which is lower than in the Panther 2
The lack of gun depression over the front seems to be very limiting
Can anyone give me tips on how to play this thing? (Maxed modules)

Which is the best line to go for so I can play with fun and easy?

Russian mediums I think
Thru the lttb

And which tank is at the end?

Also I don't really know how to play as medium, any tips?

[trim heart]

WZ Blaze is pretty great. The whole turret restriction thing is always bullshit, but hey 400+ damage...don't mind if I do

[final adder]

tbh its better if you go through the t-43 and t-44, cause it makes the t-54 grind so much dam easier.
That and the T-44 is good

[solid gate]

Ah idk I haven't really played russian tanks but I've heard that the t43 and t44 have been powercrept

[final adder]

T-44 is fine its just people think that they can play it like a T-54

[solid gate]

As for the tier 9 grind.. welp free exp is a possibility since it is the most difficult part

[solid gate]

I remember when the armor looked pretty good, now everyone pens it

T54 ltwt seems more sturdy while being lighter

How do I play as medium?

[final adder]

hull down and back and forward, its not a 54 so you dont got a good hull

[solid gate]

I see

[final adder]

your a support, so second line, your job is to stop opposing mediums and lights from getting good positions to start picking off your heavy's.

when your heavy tanks pull up, you can pull off and flank, or if you in a defense medium like stb you can hold, some what.

[solid gate]

Ok thank you

[final adder]

so defense earlly game, save hp.

late game use hp and pick off stragglers

[formal seal]

actually the t-44 has pretty poor turret armour. unless your enemy team doesn’t know how to aim anything with 190+ pen is going through 75% of the time.

[final adder]

why you move back and fourth so its harder to hit

[formal seal]

still pretty easy to hit but it does help
you’ll get troll bounces off some newer players

[visual shell]

If you were like if you have a Sherman in a world war || map I am god

[formal seal]

If you had a sherman in WW2 map in this game you would still suck because any tier 6 tank would come and kick your butt

[plucky summit]

Oh no, the concept of tiers works :O

[trim heart]

WZ-Blaze 10/10. What a beauty

[plain wagon]

Good or bad?

Or should I just wait for wz-112-2?

[wise moth]

It's a decent price, but the tank itself is pretty bad

[lethal kindle]

112 2 is hard to be seen on the store, and this offer is hella cheap and is part of meta

[wise moth]

I wouldn't call 112 meta

[lethal kindle]

Well the gun is the only problem, the armor is kinda reliable

[wise moth]

Yeah, but that problem is a pretty big one. Armor is ok, but cupolas can sometimes be an issue, and the tank isn't exactly quick

[lethal kindle]

T9 engine goes 32Kmph

[ocean maple]

didnt they mega buff the glacials armor

[plain wagon]

It seems like it has better frontal armor then the w-112-2 but the top speed is so much slower

[wise moth]

Hmmm, they might have actually buffed the lower plate from what I can see

[plain wagon]

It seems like a cool tank but the top speed is definitely a turn off for me

[ocean maple]

yeah I rushed one awhile ago and got my cheeks spread because I thought the tank was still a piece of trash

[wise moth]

https://blitzhangar.com/en/update/6-4
Ah found it. Yup, lower plate buff

[ocean maple]

sadge

[plain wagon]

So does the lower plate buff make it worth it or just skip out?

Cuz I was saving my gold for wz-112-2 and this is basically the same thing just slower and with better frontal hull armor

[lethal kindle]

Personally, just buy it

[ocean maple]

I think the 112-2 is better personally but they may not sell it for awhile and Im sure it wont be as cheap as 5k gold, also that mainly just comes from preference and never actually playing the glacial. Prolly just buy it if thats the kinda playstyle you're into

[plain wagon]

Ok

[untold trench]

Is this real???

[ocean maple]

of course

[untold trench]

Arties in blitz?!

[lethal kindle]

lmao wtf

[untold trench]

Sky cancer ;-;

[ebon parrot]

is the cheftan worth it

[lethal kindle]

no

[ebon parrot]

got it

[pine jolt]

I’am still waiting for wotblitz to add amphibious tanks like the DD Sherman and the BMP series

[heady galleon]

Worth it?

[lethal kindle]

Overpriced

[heady galleon]

13 dollars is overprices? let me rephrase that. Is it a good tank?

[lethal kindle]

Overpriced powercrept tank

[hollow moth]

@heady galleon Yes it is, but demands much skill from the player

Also, it's price is fair, unless if you're expecting it for cents @lethal kindle

[lethal kindle]

The price isn't fair,, last time it was sold for few dollars

[hollow moth]

14 dollars is a few dollars... lol

[heady galleon]

It has 10 degrees of deppresion which is nice

also that cupola seems really annoying

but overall, is it a good tank, becasue im very tempted to buy it

[hollow moth]

Chieftain got a good DPM cannon that got a consistent penetration and an interesting reload considering that it's not an actual medium

You have the precision advantage, which will allow you to make shots at good distances

Your mobility isn't bad at all, neither the speed, you have one of the best speeds of the hulldown heavies but you may see some problems with the transverse (which you can resolve with equipements)

Let's also mention that Chieftain have a good repair cost, but it's inferior to Löwe

[heady galleon]

I already have the Löwe, the cheiftan just seems like a fun unique tank to play really, becasue at this point Im just looking for unique tanks to play

[brave night]

Seems like a worse sheriff to me

[hollow moth]

The only actual disvantages of Chieftain against other heavies is the cupola, the calliber (90mm is quite low in tier 8, mostly when you're dealing with a heavy) and the hull armor (cuz it's very low at the sides and have a huge weakspot frontally)

[heady galleon]

hmmm so would it not be worth the price?

[hollow moth]

I wouldn't buy it because it's not my playstyle, but it's worth

[brave night]

I wouldn’t pick it up unless it was $10 and you want a weird tank

Just get sheriff if you can

[heady galleon]

This one?

[brave night]

That’s just going to preform better

[heady galleon]

I do love my E5, plays like a medium but better

[brave night]

It has everything cheftain has but more

[hollow moth]

Well, chieftain is superior in terms of effective penetration, precison, mobility and view range

[heady galleon]

im really into tanks with good pen and precision, plus that 293 view range is hot

[brave night]

Well but the armor is worse

[hollow moth]

That's a valid point

[brave night]

It only slightly has better pen and mobility

[hollow moth]

It's not only a slightly better pen, it's a whole pen advantage because of the ammo set @brave night

[brave night]

Bl10 is quite accurate for a 152mm

[brave night]

True but I still think the added armor for the small sacrifices makes it better

[hollow moth]

The precision is another advantage too

[lethal kindle]

The pen is bad, DPM doesn't matter when you have a big af weakspot, mobility isn't weak but your track and side is as weak as a LT

[brave night]

Meh you can get down enough with provisions and equipment that it doesnt matter too much

But back to my point the cheftain isn’t worth it if you have e5

[lethal kindle]

@brave night the chieftain itself is very powercrept

[heady galleon]

what would you say its powercrept by

[brave night]

Just like every other heavy

You could get similar dpm with more armor in shark

[lethal kindle]

@heady galleon it's powercrept since action x, 26e5, shark, m4 49 exist

[brave night]

Mostly by the action x

[heady galleon]

hmmm but are those selling for 13 dollars? no

[lethal kindle]

26e5 was sold even more cheaper same for m4 49

[hollow moth]

Nope, the penetration isn't bad actually, it got a nice ammo set and a decent pen, not the best but it's far away from bad

Yes DPM does matter if you know how to work with it

The tracks aren't as weak as LT tho, but the side armor is

Chieftain isn't one of the bests, but it's a decent when well used

[brave night]

No point in getting it if you have action x

[hollow moth]

^

[heady galleon]

I dont have it, so all i need to know is is it fun to play

[lethal kindle]

@hollow moth the track is hella weak, it's similar to mk6, only 2k dpm, with rammer it's just 2.2k, what's the point, 212 pen, not even average

[hollow moth]

@lethal kindle did you know? That tracks adds more 25mm armor, whick is the same of Maus

[lethal kindle]

Have u tried penetrating a mk6 track in like 8 degree

[heady galleon]

i mean to me it seems good for 13 dollars

[brave night]

It’s a interesting tank and it’s up 2 u but I would say no

[lethal kindle]

@heady galleon overpriced, just go buy 112

[hollow moth]

It's easy because the side armor is bad, not because the track is bad @lethal kindle

[lethal kindle]

@hollow moth your side armor and track are both bad, mk6 is a bad tank because sconq is so much better

[heady galleon]

exept the glacial is 20 dollars. Really i just have too many premium heavies and i want something new

[lethal kindle]

did you count bruh? In my country that's like 100$ and 100$ is capable to buy me a t10 collector (chieftain price)

[hollow moth]

Same track thickness, but one is good and another is bad, why? Cuz of side armor

[heady galleon]

13 dollars for us is not alot

[lethal kindle]

So what is your point right now

[heady galleon]

well I make 15 dollars an hour right, thats one hour of work for me really. Well then i'll get it, and if I dont like it oh well, you all warned me ;)

[brave night]

It’s a cheap unique tank

[hollow moth]

My point is just stating true facts about the tank @lethal kindle

[lethal kindle]

Ok? That's very cool

Afterall chieftain is a powercreep tank, it was sold even more cheaper and they raised up the price because of the 30 days, overall powercreep and overpriced

[hollow moth]

It's also interesting, I play on steam version and the cost of the Chieftain is 52,90 BRL, we can translate this number for exactly 9,64 dollars

[hollow moth]

Alright, I'm gonna send a print too

[heady galleon]

Ok well the chieftain can get up to 2300 DPM

[hollow moth]

That's good if you find positions to spread this damage safely, otherwise, it won't be useful

[lethal kindle]

The tank itself isn't even useful when you got such big copula

Also I miscount, 108HKD is at least 6500-7000 golds, 200HKD is 10k golds

[hollow moth]

Wiggle and move at long distances, then your enemies will struggle to pen

Hit*

[lethal kindle]

They will struggle to pen but you will also struggle to pen and track them anyways

[hollow moth]

Use prammo, lol

[lethal kindle]

It's not even HEAT, that's APCR

[hollow moth]

APCR is actually better than HEAT in terms of pen

[brave night]

Are u ok

[hollow moth]

Yep, why u ask?

[hollow moth]

the price and the time, rn is 00:10

exactly 9,64 dollars or 52,90 BRL

[ancient iron]

well that is a major oof.... .-. the IS-2 Pravda SP cannot pen any Churchill Variant or the Tiger II frontally... even with prem ammo

[hollow moth]

I'm not surprised that IS-2 Pravda can't pen Tiger 2, but you can pen BP with normal ammo

[ancient iron]

I was vs a Church 6 and unable to find a spot .-. mind you... by the time I could aim for the hull I was surrounded and had much bigger problems

[plucky summit]

Churchill VI has extreme armor tho

Look it up or base your playstyle around their stats...?

[solid gate]

Should I grind for either WZ-121 or WZ 113G-FT?

[gentle wasp]

121

[solid gate]

Okay

[hollow moth]

I recommend you to watch ace replays of those tanks and repeat the basic strategies

[hollow moth]

this camouflage is so boring

there's some good legendary camoflages like this, literraly a scandinavian dragon, and others that are just a tank in black with two "E100" written

I wonder how much time took to design Stalwart camo

[solid gate]

It was literally called soldier in the past when the camoflauges had an issue

[hollow moth]

The camo's first name was as effortless as the camouflage design...

if Jadgpanzer E100 get a legendary camouflage in future, I just hope that it won't be another camouflage with lazy design

[lethal kindle]

It's gonna be called the Jedi, since e100 is a Starwar reference

[hollow moth]

hahan't

[hollow notch]

Ngl, I love the e100 legendary camo

[glass relic]

Its just a high resolution carbon camo with some couple of small niche touches.

[hollow moth]

and with it's name written on it, but let's be honest, you don't need a camouflage saying "E100" to make you know you're fighting an E100

it's like write "bycicle" in your bike

[solid gate]

E 50M or Obj 140, which one is easier to go for?

[lethal kindle]

140 is easier

[solid gate]

Ok thank you

[hollow notch]

Arguable, but ok

[solid gate]

Panther 2 says hi when t44 exists

[hollow notch]

T44 is quite good
once the stock grind is over

[loud abyss]

sta-1 should be buffed. maybe 60 kmh top speed and 35% more horsepower per ton.....

or a 270mm gun mantlet

[glass relic]

Why not just put a whole bicycle on the back of your tank and call your tank lucky

[lyric copper]

it’s a support tank, not a frontline hull down brawl god, you use the -10° to peek cheeky shots into enemies

[loud abyss]

but i still think it still should get a speed boost to give it kind of a leopard playstyle

it is just being outperformed by any other VIII med

change my mind 😂

and- may god bless that - less aiming time

[solid gate]

I'm guessing blitz gonna introduce more european, it is until time they introduce the STRV TD

[fast compass]

Swedish tds are not coming to blitz.

[solid gate]

Ffffff

[solid gate]

^^^

[worthy wraith]

What the difference between the e5 and the chieftain mk 6

[glass relic]

Not much different other than one being more permanently agile and have better DPM with also free HESH rounds.

[lyric oriole]

STA-1 is solid it's not overly fast sure but the camo rating is very high and the gun is great mixed with a solid view range you have a fantastic long range medium

[hollow notch]

Very very different tank. The mk6 has significantly less armor on the hull along with a much weaker hatch. It gets an extra 2° of depression and more mobility for that armor trade off though.

It gets bad prammo pen, but also has higher alpha than normal on its prammo

[cosmic girder]

true.

[thick trout]

And it's cheap HESH is a dream, but the E5 gets the consumables

[earnest mantle]

Honestly though the chieftains advantages in gun handling dont really stand up to the consumables and provisions and the extra armor
Even not counting the super speed boost the e5 is probably more mobile than the chieftain

[glass relic]

Temporary mobility < Permanent mobility

in most situations. but the consumables on the E5 can get you out from a pinch really quick.

[earnest mantle]

E5 has better p2w ratio chieftain only has top speed

[brittle atlas]

why is the mk6 so damn addictive, im not even good at it but i keep playing it lmao

[rugged meadow]

on the Chi-Nu, would you take the Tier IV or the Tier V gun? because the T4 has a better rpm and dpm, but the T5 has a better penetration.

[flint eagle]

I usually go with the higher tier gun. “Effective dpm” might be higher if more shots go in with the higher pen. I don’t know if that’s a term people use but that’s how I think of it. If you bounce with the low pen gun you aren’t getting the full dpm

[rugged meadow]

ok, thanks

[coarse sage]

hi

[rigid condor]

hi

[coarse sage]

which is better the is-7 or the fv215b

[solid gate]

215B all the way

[runic comet]

can yall give me some tips on how to play the IS8 better? cuz i keep losing like 5 games in a row.....

nvm

[plucky summit]

It's a medium @runic comet

[solid gate]

Heavium

[tulip sundial]

I hate the Mk 6, every time someone shoots you your ammo gets damaged

[plucky summit]

@tulip sundial have you played the IS-7?

[tulip sundial]

Yes, and my ammo gets hit more in the Chieftain than in the IS-7

[plucky summit]

Good, because only mistakes cause ammo racks in the IS-7

[tulip sundial]

Ammo rack is way easier to hit on the chieftain

[plucky summit]

210 < 260 but yeah, I guess so

[tulip sundial]

But from the front, The IS-7’s Ammo is further back and harder to hit, whereas the chieftain is right near the front

[zinc laurel]

Is there somebody who speaks fluently german? pm me pls

[rose venture]

On cent 7/1 and fv4202 run CS or rammer?

[tulip sail]

CS they already have good dpm but relatively low pen

[brittle atlas]

not when its hulldown or hiding the lfp

im yet to be ammoracked in it, although plenty of times i got it damage, maybe once every 3 battles

[wooden crater]

the only real advantage you have over the other meds is HESH, so you might as well take the HESH gun and go all-in with CS
also, calibrated HESH has about the same pen as the other calibrated 105mm L7 guns in T9/10

[unique shale]

Which gun should I use on the mt-25? the one with 8 rounds or the one with 4?

[brittle atlas]

you mean gun right? the top gun ofc

[unique shale]

oh yeah my bad, meant the gun

[brittle atlas]

i think its the 4 shell one, has higher pen making it more effective in battle

[unique shale]

Hmm ok thanks

[brave night]

8 shell is for meming

[unique shale]

😳

[brittle atlas]

meme guns are good only if you are good

[minor mica]

How does one play the gravedigger?

[plucky summit]

@minor mica it's very hard to make it effective without enough accuracy. Be defensive and capitalize on ignorant enemies

[tulip sail]

Nope I used free xp

[minor mica]

Alr thanks

[visual hatch]

how much the gun depresses vs how much it should depress. what's stopping it??

[wooden crater]

the gun breech, it would be sticking out the top of the turret if it could depress that far

[coarse sage]

which tank damages more tier 4 modules the A 20 or the panzer IV

[plucky summit]

@coarse sage A-20, with 105, Pz has 100

[coarse sage]

ok

[fluid quarry]

@visual hatch plus it would be OP

[coarse sage]

thanks

[solid gate]

Maus better than E-100

[hollow notch]

thunder noises

[fluid quarry]

mouse has more armour but e 100 is more versatile

[solid gate]

True

I want KpfPz 70

[hollow notch]

Maus is a wall.
Highly specialized and god tier at doing 1 thing very well.

E100 can do other tank things, but it can't even come close to outdoing what the maus does well.

[radiant coral]

Wait for it
It will be around like 20$ if you want it so much

[hollow moth]

I doubt

maybe in 1 vs 1 or in frontline with lesser allies to help, but E100 holds better the frontline

[thick trout]

Maus is waayyyy better at frontlining than the E100. With the E100 people just throw their prammo at you and your turret is about 340mm max assuming that you are perfectly angled, which is good when played as a support tank but when you are focused by multiple targets it just breaks down, and those pennable places are gigantic. The maus can get a bit over 340 max, but the cheeks of it are small so a tiny amount of wiggling throws of almost every shot. The E100 also suffers a longer reload and a much larger lower plate, as well as less hp. They are both good tanks, but the maus definitely takes it overall and beats the E100 by miles when frontlining

[hollow moth]

hm, my E100 fanboy mind lost it's course

[hearty wren]

there is a small spot on the front of a VK 168 you can pen with a T67

(T67 is the old T5 TD before Hellcat for the newbies existing here

[tough dune]

E100 has that 640 alpha fear factor. Thats it.

[visual hatch]

That tank is so tall it basically has 2 degrees of gun depression. Also who cares if its not realistic? Look at the annihilator. The turret isn't even attached to the Hull at the bottom it's just suspended on 2 hinges.

That tank isn't even good. Literally any tank out classes it.

[turbid wraith]

Anything with the m1a1 can

Even M8A1 could

[lyric copper]

aka an oscillating turret

[turbid wraith]

Does Strv 74 have oscillator?

[lyric copper]

yup

[wooden crater]

as do the T8+ french heavies and the T7+ american autoloading line

[plain wagon]

Do you think 60tp line will come out this year?

Cuz I was thinking about saving my free exp until it comes out but if it’s not gonna come out this year then I won’t bother

[solid gate]

.....

[hollow moth]

it's possible and I hope they'll come, but it may be hard to think cuz only the main nations have two different heavy T10 in tech tree

[solid gate]

Wouldn't the European tech tree split into separate nation tech trees by that time?

[sharp spindle]

Question, if I were to sell my T26E3 Eagle 7, would I be able to use VRT to buy it back? I ask this because it's not shown on the cost table.

[gentle wasp]

yes, the VRT table is just out of date

[sharp spindle]

Alright, thanks.

Don't like the Eagle 7 anyway, and I'm going to sell it to help get the VK 45.02 B lol

[candid harbor]

keep it if you got space, they could buff that garbage later

[brave night]

vrt exists to buy it back

[teal pumice]

Guys I have 100k free xp what should I get?

[wooden crater]

save it for T9 stock modules.

[hollow notch]

I don't see how you can consider the eagle garbage. Its literally a tier 8 (a trash one) placed in a tier where it is actually balanced.

[gentle wasp]

it's average at worst, nothing about it is bad

[wise relic]

I think I need a faster Level 10 tank, or more options. Have worked my way up to the German E 100. I’m getting better at using it, while also taking a beating at times, but still learning. But any advice on the next line of tanks I should develop?

[wooden crater]

I have... mixed... opinions about the kv4, but I'd highly recommend the is-4 for a noob-friendly heavy tank line

[tight raven]

Remember, stock ST-1

[wooden crater]

i put that line aside after i unlocked the st-1 and grinded for more free xp until i could get to the top gun
which is what you should be doing for almost every T9

[candid harbor]

tank is quite slow, for quite poor armor, low rof, low penetration, gun has decent enough bloom to force you to completely stop before shooting and base accuracy is nothing special.
It is somehow supposed to survive tier7.
Superpershing would be great tank instead of eagle at tier7 if they nerf hit points and reduce traverse speed, eagle could be good if it were tier 6, it will very likely still get clapped by pz4s anyway

if eagle would be considered average, then tanks like t43 would be god tier and panther i would be something outta this world

[candid harbor]

and the worst part of this comparison is that, we aren't in medium meta, we are in heavy meta, slow garbage with no usable redeeming qualities like eagle7 have no chance against them

[visual hatch]

so you're telling me this is realistic? there's literally no place where the thing connects except for those to spots. you're telling me the gunner is melted and poured into the turret to fit? because i see no way that guy's fitting.

the black part is empty space

[candid harbor]

1. that tank is big
2. it is fictional tank made for a game with self driving tanks and no people to be seen

@visual hatch

[visual hatch]

yeah so that proves my argument that the grave digger should have more gun depression. i didn't get that shit from my only snowglobe for nothing.

[solid gate]

Does he not know oscillating turrets are a thing?

[candid harbor]

@solid gate nope

[plucky summit]

@visual hatch To be fair, you knew the chances of getting your dream tanks

I don't even want gun depression, I need accuracy for the Grave

[visual hatch]

I also knew the chances of getting 7.5k gold, which is preferable than that hot trash

[solid gate]

And going by that realistically the gravedigger is literally a 57mm not too far away from 75mm the fact it’s magazine fed means there’s very limited internal space for gun depression

[kindred wren]

But don’t oscillating turrets usually also have turret baskets?

[solid gate]

I believe so iirc the amx 13 series turrets don’t allow access into the hull unless I’m remembering a different turret

[candid harbor]

they don't and you have to hop out of tank to reload

[kindred wren]

But yeah, if anything like the Annihilator actually existed the turret would probably be large enough to fit people, even if it’d be a bit cramped

[candid harbor]

hehe, just use smaller peeps

[kindred wren]

Like the driver of the Ru 😛

[solid gate]

It’s most comparable to the T249

[candid harbor]

dang, anni is obese anti air

[kindred wren]

Facts

[sharp spindle]

Yeah, hopefully

[visual hatch]

they shouldve made a ru 251 defender !!!

yea but 13 90 already has autoloader

and there are no german tanks yet

[faint compass]

I want the BT-42 to get added to the game, whether as a part of the Girls und Panzer collection or not

[visual hatch]

yes but it already has an autoloader

[chrome fog]

when will wg make a kv-2 battle pass tank?

[solid gate]

Ok so.

ST-I legendary camo.

[kindred wren]

It probably won’t get one anytime soon. Not popular enough

[solid gate]

Yeh

[solid gate]

What I research first Strv 74 or Chee-To?

Strv

Thanks!

Chee-To SPG Looks powerful but Chi-To not looks like Chi-To will give me some defeats

I don't I have 24k free exp

[potent tinsel]

Wdym, you guys should totally play the STA-1
Especially if you see me in battle, yolo towards me

[prisma bramble]

VK4502B worth getting?

[kindred wren]

Uhm... no but actually yes. If you like a heavy that is not just your typical straight forward heavy, then you might like it

[solid gate]

Is sta-1 good? And what about type 61? Ik that they feature good penatration but Armor sucks, so just asking if they are good

[wooden crater]

good guns, trash platforms. works well as second line support.

[kindred wren]

No tier eight medium with a 90mm gun can be considered good (unless you really really like them and their playstyle). Some are balanced, but most are bad

Hehe

[lyric oriole]

STA- is actually solid

It has one of the best camo ratings if tier 8 mediums and one of the best view ranges

It's intended to play long range

That's why it's not very fast and not very well armored

STA is quicker than the cent and has a better gun

And more camo

The only thing cent can do that STA can't is hulldown with the turret but the turret is unreliable in Cent

[kindred wren]

To be honest I also found the STA-1 to be a solid tank. It’s just that I wouldn’t call it good, not nowadays after the heavy buff anyways

[brave night]

t22 is a bad tank

[rigid condor]

yes, just m22 prototype. 🙂

[flat eagle]

question to WOTB devs, when is the Skorpion G coming out in shop??

[kindred wren]

It has been sold a few times already

[flat eagle]

ik

[kindred wren]

Well, the soonest I expect it to be in the store is in a quarter of a year

[lyric oriole]

Defender tanks always come out in February

[kindred wren]

The next big event is the Chinese New Year, so we will probably get a selection of Chinese tanks

[brittle atlas]

is leo a good medium? im having lots of succes in strv 74

[low rampart]

@brittle atlas Definitely, both of it's guns are good, quick reload low alpha or decent reload and 290 alpha damage. The mobility is good and armor bounces what's needed for you to peek a shot. The alpha scares others and gives you a boost in morale.
shouts some swedish fighting scream

[clever badger]

I've been rambling about the Leopard's 5cm gun for quite a bit now and I'm thinking, does the VK 28 offer a similar experience to the old Leopard with a 5cm gun?

[solid gate]

Imagine if Leopard get's it's PaK 39 5 cm instead of the not real MK 108(it's a real gun, but not planned for Leopard)

[clever badger]

It had the 5cm but WG removed it in 5.5 update to "simplify" lower tiers

Honestly wish they didn't get rid of the gun, it's just a Panzer III's gun on a Leopard & I don't want to seal club on T3 just to get the Leo 5cm experience

[low rampart]

I didn't get to play Leopard with the 5cm gun, but it was very good even after. The point where it became weak is the update that gave it less penetration, no idea which update it was.

[clever badger]

Man, I seriously don't get why they removed it, it had 2.17 second reload but only 67 mm of pen, it wasn't op at all especially since it's what'w supposed to be a Tier 3 gun on a Tier 5 match

[brazen sand]

Should i get Kravgan or standard B

ok Thx

[thick trout]

Depends if you can play meds without any armour

If you can then standard B all the way

[brazen sand]

Okay

[calm drum]

MARSHAL Gazi Osoman pasha (IYI)#3079 has been warned.

[crystal hare]

AMX 13 90 defender makes no sense, just buy defender mk1

[tulip sundial]

Because it’ll play differently than mk1

[crystal hare]

13 90 is faster, but pays for that with burst damage, armor, and hp

[hollow moth]

it'll be a mix of defender mk1 and AMX 13 90, i'm interested on it

[tulip sundial]

We have no idea what AMX defender will have besides speed and an autoloader

[crystal hare]

True

[solid gate]

It’s just a better 13 90

[crystal hare]

T-54 ltwt defender would be much more fun

[hollow moth]

there's already a russian defender, there would be no sense in repeat the nation

[crystal hare]

Also ps13 has an article on 13 def and that’s where I’m getting my info
I know ltwt is never happening

[hollow moth]

I honestly expected a RU 251 defender, but apparently none axis tanks will become defenders

[crystal hare]

Not yet at least

What about Euro nation defenders?

[hollow moth]

as we know on those last 4 defenders, WG don't repeat the same tank type when making defenders, there's already 4 defenders and 4 tank types, I bet that AMX will be the last one

[tulip sundial]

Most likely

[lyric oriole]

Doubtful

The Y5 tanks are supposed to be knockoff Defender tanks

[hollow moth]

they may have the "defender tecnology", but they don't hold the Defender name, and that's the context of my bet, there will be no more Defender tanks

[crystal hare]

Well, they could have another round of heavy, td, med, light.

[clever badger]

You guys think they'll be selling the other defender tanks when the new defender comes in store?

[lyric oriole]

They always have

[clever badger]

Oh great, time to get some gold ready then

[lyric oriole]

Might be cash only

So hold your horses

[tulip sundial]

Next they need offender tanks, to counter the defenders

Their niche is they take a good premium from a country, make it bad and turn it into a collectors

[wooden crater]

we need to add the rest of the performance matrix

[untold stirrup]

LMAO

[clever badger]

The website image still has the 5cm gun

[brisk jacinth]

Am I now unsure if I should get the E5 or the grill can both now finish with free xp so I ask you now what I should get

[gentle wasp]

don't spend fxp to get to either of them, the WT is probably the best in the line, and the M103 is manageable. fxp should be used to research modules, not tanks.

[hollow notch]

Or skipping garbage tanks completely

[smoky hedge]

Defender tech tree when

[hollow notch]

Never. Cash only.
They gotta squeeze all that money out.

[smoky hedge]

yeah its gonna be just like a regular tech tree but the tanks cost gold and free exp instead of credits and base xp

that means the tier 10 tank costs 6.1 million gold

[untold stirrup]

Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds on its face?

[radiant coral]

And humans are stupid
Like me so, wouldn’t be surprised if someone would actually do that

[smoky hedge]

its WeeGee what do you expect

[untold stirrup]

I hate to admit it but you have a point

[tulip edge]

What we need is an annihilator defender

wargaming is going to scoop this idea up instantly now

[solid gate]

st emil defender*

[exotic sequoia]

Man i sooooooo wanna buy Emil 1951

But its sooooooooo expensive, should i ?

[solid gate]

you mean you should buy sturer emil

[exotic sequoia]

Was heisst sturer ?

[solid gate]

ja
stubborn

[exotic sequoia]

???????

[solid gate]

sturer = stubbon
i know german

[exotic sequoia]

Yes and what does stubbon mean?

[kindred wren]

stubborn

A person that will never give in no matter what is stubborn

[smoky hedge]

Stubborn Emil is the name the Germans gave to the prototype because of how prone the tank was to malfunctions and mechanical failures, hence it was "stubborn" when it comes to combat

[low rampart]

I'm glad I skipped that going directly to the Rhm. The few matches I had made me feel inside the losing side of a war.

[clever badger]

1945 flashbacks

[solid gate]

No

[granite crow]

How much frontal armour does a T 1 heavy and an M6 have?

[brave night]

Enough

[hollow moth]

@smoky hedge I wonder how that engine could fail if the tank itself if pretty light

[smoky hedge]

its German, need I say more?

[brave night]

There were reliable German tanks so that’s just sort of racist

[fervent lava]

Wargaming add a tier 10 defender please

[lyric oriole]

We basically have one

FV4005 is basically a Defender

[hollow moth]

@brave night racism with... tanks? errrrm...

[tulip edge]

Deathstar defender
More alpha and penetration, fully rotatable turret

[hollow moth]

"⚠️ WZ 120-1 GFT gets a new legendary camouflage and it might be available in stores in February"

• Blitz post

but yet nothing for jageroo

[plucky summit]

"WZ 120-1G FT Door Wedge"

[formal seal]

strv 103 should get a cheese legendary camo

[tulip edge]

They probably just gave it one for chinese event

[solid gate]

E50 has been a POS tank for the last 80 battles or so

How do I play this crap tank and is the E50M any better or should I abandon the line

Nice ty

Wow, this D2 is pretty cool. 👌

Best III tier instead of Pz.III.

[plucky summit]

Pz. III is better, D2 used to be better, but not now

[solid gate]

Which gun best on tiger 2, mid or last? Mid is faster reloading, but pierces slightly less armour and has 6 depression. Last has like 20mm more armour piercing and 7 depression but slightly slower

[tulip sail]

Last

[untold stirrup]

Pre update 5.5 Sherman III:
"Allow me to introduce myself"

[pulsar cloak]

Um I have questions about the t20?

[solid gate]

I disagree Churchill 1’s last gun has 4 depression. Is useless in most places and it’s a very slow tank so it takes while to get into a good position @left acorn

[pulsar cloak]

I ment in play style and any strange armor quirks.

Ok so no armor, light tank play

Ok

[wooden crater]

SU-152, Lttb, AT 15
Allow us to introduce ourselves

[latent warren]

the top 20 pounder Type B barrel is OP

[wooden crater]

tru tho

i forgot what other tanks had a good not top gun, and i needed the third to fill the meme

[humble schooner]

Kv2

[inland ivy]

T-44 noises

[clever badger]

T-34 talking about how unreliable German tanks are

Pepelaugh

[hollow moth]

T-34/76, also the tank that made so much crews die for simple Ferdinands....

[solid gate]

47 percent winrate in the E50.. help
I got it up to 50 playing ratings and now it's dropped back to 47 in randoms

[hollow moth]

Well, the night matchmaker is being very nice with me and my T110E5, won 10 out of 12 battles

Lowest damage with it was 1913 until now

Doing 2100-4100 easily

[solid gate]

Welp. They only released the T-22 for that much gold, so that they could give us a even more oP obj. 907

[neat nimbus]

should i buy the amx 13 90?

[exotic sequoia]

Is the Emil 1951 good ? (Ping me)

[formal karma]

It's kinda like Progetto 46 and Pantera, the differences are noticeable, but they both play relatively the same. If you like the Emil I, you'll like the Emil 1951.
It should be fine, so long as you know how to play Emil.

[urban trail]

buff the batchat, its gonna become obsolete when the TVP comes. make it relevant again

[hollow moth]

Actually no, Bat Chat got a much bigger DPM, much faster speed and agility, reload advantage and concealment superiority

Meanwhile TVP got an ultra long reload (which had enough time for a Bat Chat do a reload, shot all the shells and run), very thin armor, the same agility of an average medium, and the concealment isn't that good tho
Also, TVP will have even more time exposing itself to shot all the shells (Bat chat only needs 3.6 secs to use all the 3 shells, meanwhile TVP needs 7.5 seconds to shot all the shells. in 7.6 update it'll get a buff and need 6 seconds to shot all the shells, but the reload time will be increased)

[hollow moth]

The tech tree one? Wait until 7.6 update, because it'll get a generous reload and precision buff at this update

[urban trail]

their mobilities are very similar, and as its an autoloader, the long reload doesnt really matter if its played right, only the burst does. the armour of the tvp is much better than the batchat. also the batchat needs 5.6 seconds to unload not 3.6. if it only needed 3.6 to unload then id say its fine. the batchat cant run from the tvp very well as the batchat tops at 65 and the tvp tops at 60 so theyre similar

furthermore, the tvp has better gun depression and is more flexible than the batchat

[hollow moth]

The intraclip of the first shell isn't counted because it's already part of the full reload, so it's 3.6

Full reload > Shot 1 > intraclip > shot 2 > intraclip > shot 3 > full reload

[solid gate]

Except it’s just on par with flexibility and has worse armor and the long reload does matter if you can’t relocate fast enough to reload with no damage it’s bound to suffer

[hollow moth]

Furthermore, in acceleration the bat chat is infinetly better

You might see problems to run from a TVP in flat terrain, but anyways, you don't need to run in most of situations, you can DPM it out anyways

@urban trail

Wait

Bat chat intraclip isn't 1.8 🤔

Ah yeah, my mistake, it's actually 2.8 intraclip and 5.6 secs to use all the shells, you're right at THIS point

Bat Chat full reload without consumables is 14.68 + 5.6 = 20.28

TVP in 7.6 will have 23.49 + 6 = 29.49

Being agressive and smart will be enough to get the TVP meanwhile it reloads, shot all the shells and run

And yeet, I'm talking alone like a cazy man, noice

[fast compass]

the relation between tvp and batchat will be the same as that between lorraine and 13 90(in the buffed 7.6 state).

[hollow moth]

^
Except that AMX 13 90 DPM won't be much superior, neither the speed as like in B-C 25t vs TVP, but in an overhall, will be like this but better for Bat Chat

[exotic sequoia]

Okay but is it worth the price ?

[soft bridge]

nahh get the emil 1 for free its already better @exotic sequoia

[solid gate]

Armor on sidesrcap and RoF is great. It's slow but the best in fighting 1vs1.

[plucky summit]

Pz. III would easily best D2 in a 1v1

[solid gate]

I would like to see that. 😏

[plucky summit]

I would like to prove that 😈

[turbid wraith]

If tanks that have ocillators are connected to one pivot point, the when the gun is elevated there is a 0mm area gap made for to be HE?

[kindred wren]

No. There’s nothing to hit, so you hit nothing

And if you mean the bottom of the turret then no, there is armour too

[sweet pulsar]

the point is don't expect to bounce anything lol

[solid gate]

I’m trying to mount a gun on my tank it’s I’m not being allowed to mount it, I’m stuck in the tutorial

[sweet fern]

do u know somethink about M41D?

[gentle wasp]

stats are in blitzhangar and blitzstars. likely to be sold during the Lunar Year event

[brittle snow]

Should i save my free xp for the Czech tanks or just go for the Chinese meds?

[clever badger]

Czech

[hot bobcat]

Thoughts about the Italian line ?

[lyric copper]

lovely, the ability to switch from a single shot support kinda mode to a burst dmg dealer is noice

[hot bobcat]

Good to know, I’m thinking they might be fun

[lyric copper]

The Progetto 65 has troll hull armour btw

[exotic sequoia]

ye but i dont wanna be part of the cancerous pigs community that overplay this tanks for the stats

[clear edge]

Is maus good?

[plucky summit]

Yes

[clear edge]

What about the obj 268 (?)

[plucky summit]

It's meh now, but the gun is great

[clear edge]

Thanks

[brave night]

T92e1 is rlly fun

[solid gate]

Any one else hate the leopard?

[static harness]

The 5 or 10?

[clear bobcat]

yeah I thought it wouldn't be fun after missiles were taken away but suprising still fun to play

[solid gate]

5

[static harness]

Never played it again after I got the vk
Not interested in below t6 gameplay

[solid gate]

Alr i will have a look

[wooden crater]

there's four leo's in the game now, the tier 5, the tier 7, the tier 9, and the tier 10.

[clever badger]

Think of the VK leopard as a stiletto and every other tank you face is either an arming sword, a longsword or a zweihänder

Anything that can put a shell on you probably will so it's best to use terrain to your advantage, be wary of your team aswell, if they're not there to help you hold a position chances are the enemy will take advantage and push you over like a cardboard box

However when it comes to CQC and exploiting those weaknesses on the enemy tank, you can wreak havoc on the enemy team

@insufficient_Flu#0380

As is with every light tank, wide open areas are a bad position to be in so if you want to be effective with a light tank (especially Leopard since it had only 80mm of pen) try using buildings with narrow roads to your advantage

Also carry 2 repair kits cause VK 16.02 Leopard has one of the weakest tracks in game

[tame parrot]

Guys is it worth keeping the T92E1 when I get the Sheridan?

[solid gate]

Sheridan is quite the same than t92 so I am not sur it would be worth

[tame parrot]

Ik theyre similar i was wondering if the t92e1 has anything better than the sheridan

[lyric copper]

T92 has extremely troll armour

[delicate dock]

T92 also has a smaller profile and the benefit of facing tier 8s

[tame parrot]

Hmmm i guess im keeping it then thx guys😅

[delicate dock]

Although the shell velocity is much worse than sheri I'm pretty sure

[tame parrot]

Yes it is i have looked that up

[sweet fern]

Funny Fact: T92E1 have more weight than Sheridan

[lyric copper]

well yes, the Sheridan is like 80% spaced armour

[hollow notch]

don't mind the hull actually being aluminum

[tulip sundial]

Also T92 has a longer reload tha T49 I believe

[neat nimbus]

should i buy the ho-ri type 2?

[lyric copper]

@neat nimbus do you have credits to spare for equipment, and free exp to get good modules?

(Ignore if you already went through the HR2)

If yes, do it

[neat nimbus]

113K of free exp

[ancient iron]

oof so apparently the Prog 65 can't pen a WT IV turret with HE .-.

[untold stirrup]

@ancient iron you hit the gun didn't you

[ancient iron]

nope... gunshield...... did a whole 39 damage

[lyric copper]

@neat nimbus credits?

[neat nimbus]

21k

[ancient iron]

the ONLY thing I can think is the game didn't agree it hit the gunshield..... and decided the gun (which was behind a wall) was what was hit

[lyric copper]

@neat nimbus you have how many?

[neat nimbus]

21.063.981

[lyric copper]

21 million?

go ahead then

[untold stirrup]

when I say gun I'm not talking about the barrel, I'm talking about the part of the gun that extrudes from the breech but isn't quite part of the barrel yet which will eat HE

[kindred wren]

WG built a 0mm armour box around the modules ‘inside’ the turret, i.e. loader, gunner, commander, gun and whatever I missed

[ancient iron]

yeah I know..... I hit the gun shield for sure as the rest of the turret was hidden behind the wall......

I have to assume there was a spike in latency.....

[kindred wren]

We sometimes get those desynchs which cause shots to do the weirdest things

They are the most common cause for so-called “ghost shells”

[ancient iron]

oh I know that..... I had one "miss" that was a KV-2 shell on a Hellcat that missed by going right through its turret

[neat nimbus]

what i should research first engine or gun

[untold stirrup]

Always gun unless the stock gun is good enough

[wise moth]

The Japanese TDs are pretty bad, I'd save your resources for more noteworthy lines

[lyric copper]

@neat nimbus you have more than enough free exp to get both gun and engine

[coarse sage]

When the 7.6 will reach I want to release the 50tpv

[radiant coral]

Maybe he meant that tan—
Wait wdym ?

That it’s a premium? Imo it’s good

Yeah, well i thought that he meant, the TP it will be released too then.. probably

I mean, that tank is already... since 5 Months or 4.... been testing, would be ridiculous if it wouldn’t come directly

And besides that, it will come for 15k gold which is worth imo, "might" be better then the KpfPz-70 then it can be more tempting

Tier 9 and sources from RU server, but that would have been now 3 months ago

Yeah but the possibility is not low
I personally wouldn’t be surprised

Yeah maxed everything else is too much and then not worth it, 15k would be the lowest

But I guess, we have to wait for the update and we will see it then

[grand bramble]

Is the cheften heritage worth getting

[radiant coral]

Not really.

Save up your money for other tanks like for the T-34 American premium or some similar offers like that

Cupola, and once someone hits you on the front of the hull like wait...
Brb

[hollow notch]

Ammo rack I am going to assume

[radiant coral]

So

Ammo rack I am going to assume
Well lucky me, haven’t been ammoracked
Not yet

[hollow notch]

Called it

[radiant coral]

I could also take the Löwe, has also one of the best pen

[hollow notch]

The lighthouse cupolas serve as nice shot bait. So many people miss their shots on them.
sauce: t95e6

[radiant coral]

If you wiggle it and you are not closer then 50-100 Meters then yes
And tbh the gun is fine

I mean yes you struggle to pen some tanks tho but still good pen, reload like 6.1 or 6.4 seconds iirc

🤷🏽‍♂️ you get used to it

The only thing that I diss like on it, it’s the cupola ofc but would be then to good on the other hand.
Also good credit maker, 170.00% of credit coefficient

[grand bramble]

It’s only 13 dollars to

[radiant coral]

It’s up to you, if you want it to see in your garage, get it, if not really then wait, patience is good

[thick trout]

It's a nice number it's 15 squared 👀

It's a decent deal but it isn't an easy tank to play so if you aren't sure you will fit the playstyle then save your money because it comes back every so often at good prices

[radiant coral]

Nah, heck they sold once KpfPz-70 for 15€ actually 10k gold
bought it directly smh

Anyways cheap offer for me and I thought why not 🤷🏽‍♂️ I have now the Chieftain T95 and the Defender Mk.1 I don’t regret it all.

[grand bramble]

I think I’m going to get it then I’ve been collecting British tanks for a long time and I don’t have this tank yet

[radiant coral]

go for it 🙂

[granite crow]

For the churchill I is the stock turret better? And can you use any other guns with it

[radiant coral]

Those only are available with the V turret

And I would recommend it highly

[granite crow]

Why is that? The top turret is completely flat

[radiant coral]

Well yeah it is low in turn rate but for that armor it’s worth it

[granite crow]

How much armour is it?

It's like 75 on console

[radiant coral]

There you go and try out mate, if you like the stock turret more then run that

[radiant coral]

Hmmm, can be interesting with the T-25 Skoda

[granite crow]

Hmmm yea alright

I'll see how it goes if I get it tommorrow, thanks

[kindred wren]

The stock turret used to have better armour, but they buffed the top turret so...

[radiant coral]

Blitz 🤷🏽‍♂️

[iron garnet]

Can we take a moment to appreciate WG's ability to continually make more and more broken tanks so every tank before 2019 just becomes completely irrelevant?

source: T54 Mod 1

[radiant coral]

Hmm ?

[static harness]

"Money is the strongest force on earth."

• someone, probably

[radiant coral]

People with some brain cells and life experience say that sooo yeah, "someone” (entire world but we just are going to be like that 🙃)

[fluid quarry]

Is obj 704 good?

[lyric copper]

it’s okay

[fluid quarry]

I am a Med main player so I do not know expect

[lyric copper]

worst things about the tank are it’s mobility and aim time

[kindred wren]

“Imbalance creates engaging gameplay”

• Lux

[hollow moth]

Just noticed than I got a unicum WN8 in my last 30 battles with E5 xd

[lyric flume]

Which one is the e5

[hollow moth]

T110E5

[supple bolt]

I used to think it was the t26e5

[lyric flume]

What

What the e5 look like

[supple bolt]

Err

[lyric flume]

Errrrrrr

[static harness]

Errrrrrrrrrrrrr

[hollow moth]

........

[supple bolt]

Does anyone know if Glacial is worth it? 5000 gold seems decent to me

[lyric flume]

I neeeed answers

[hollow moth]

It's a decent tank and difficult to see in battles, so noobs may struggle to deal with you

Also, the price is very good considering that it's a unique tier 8 heavy

[hollow moth]

that is T110E5

[lyric flume]

Oh ok

That line good???

[supple bolt]

Ikr...i would normally buy it but my wallet will be recuperating for the next 2 months since I bought like 40k worth of gold during winter event

[hollow moth]

Yes, a nice line of hulldown heavies with good guns (Except on T32). Extremely thick turrets (except on M103) and decent mobility in all of the tanks in this line

[lyric flume]

Ok thanks

[hollow moth]

well, did you bet on that gold boxes?

[solid gate]

Impossible dream of WoT. 😉

[hollow moth]

what do you mean

[solid gate]

(PC WoT)

[hollow moth]

ok, but why impossible dream?

[supple bolt]

I didn't buy a single one actually. I bought the Cent. Defender for 8000 in auction, the T54e2 for 9000 in auction, and the t22 with package for 25000. All entirely worth it and broken.

[supple bolt]

I'm not really into a mound of boosters and free xp certificates.

[untold stirrup]

Quite a bit of imbalance is fine, broken levels of imbalance such as Smasher or Annihilator existing is not fine.

Then again tier 7 is literally just broken garbage now with the current meta

[supple bolt]

Precisely. Either you're a broken heavy tank with huge amounts of damage, or you're a med/light with a 75mm fastfirer which shouldn't be a pop gun but is.

[hollow moth]

Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of broken tanks that are actually acceptable. I see Helsing as an example, it's quite broken but it's also not a monster than will devour your tank like Anni does

[unkempt venture]

I need an opinion from the Wot Blitz community do you think SU-100M1 is trash or a decent playable tank

[supple bolt]

It's a decent tank. I had a friend once tell me it's great.

[unkempt venture]

Well I'm using it to get to the OBJ 263 and I keep raging im not sure if its me or the tank so that's why I was asking and thanks for opinion

Thanks once again comrade but I dont see much use of the armor because I can ricochet a single shell from the enemy tank

[supple bolt]

Obj 263 is really good, stalins slipper doesn't get as much praise as it should

[unkempt venture]

Wanna play platoons sometime cause I can't seem to find any partner and what server you play on

[supple bolt]

I'm always open to a toon, I play on NA

[unkempt venture]

Whats your username

[sacred trail]

Does the ISU-152 have a refined 152 mm gun that’s better than the stock 152 mm, or is it the same gun lineup as the SU-152?

[tight raven]

ISU 152 with stock gun has a faster reload by 1 second and 0.05 less dispersion and I think a better velocity than SU 152

[sacred trail]

But does the ISU have an improved 152 mm to replace its stock gun, or is the stock the only 152 mm gun it has?

[tight raven]

Yes it’s called the BL-10, 64k xp tier 10 gun (Obj 704’s top gun) and its way better than stock, more reliable and 3k dpm

[sacred trail]

So, research the tier 9 gun and I’d be set with both the ISU and Object 704?

[tight raven]

Wait it’s the tier 10 one and yea it will unlock obj 704’s top gun

@sacred trail it’s the tier 10 gun (tier 9 gun is a 122m) I made a mistake

[sacred trail]

You can research the tier 10 gun with the ISU?

[tight raven]

Yes

[sacred trail]

And it’s the same thing with the 704?

[tight raven]

Tier 10 gun is the improved 640 which is the same as 704

[candid harbor]

@sacred trail yes

[candid harbor]

you use same gun

[clever badger]

Was the Drac based on an AMX CDC?

[hollow notch]

Ya

[solid gate]

This made me realize how lazily modeled the cdc is

[wise moth]

@clever badger Yeah, it is. It’s even called the “AMX Drac” in the game files

@solid gate it’s the drac that’s lazily modeled. CDC has been on PC for longer than Drac, WG just ripped it off to make the drac

[clever badger]

So which would you say performs better on their respective tier?

Drac or CDC

[solid gate]

@wise moth in the sense of authenticity or atleast trying to make it a somewhat decent model no sights or attempt at hatches

Granted there’s two hatches at the rear of the turret but the antenna and turret design would lead to that whole entire rear being taken up

[solid gate]

I come to you with an idea.

[lyric copper]

17pdr T-34

[solid gate]

Because this still have a big cupola as a weakspot and it'll never be removed.

[spark basin]

which tanks within blitz fare much better in comparison to their pc counterpart?

[kindred wren]

WZ-121

[lyric copper]

the E5, the IS-4, the T-62A, the VL (not in PC lol)

[kindred wren]

Hm, yes, but those tanks aren’t complete trash in PC unlike the 121

Also, all German superheavies perform better in Blitz than on PC where they are mostly regarded hitpoint-piñatas

[lyric copper]

or arty sponges

[radiant coral]

Wait what ?

[kindred wren]

You disagree?

[lyric copper]

@radiant coral everyone fires gold in PC because it offers no disadvantages

[radiant coral]

As well in console
What I hated so I quiet

I know that the Germans heavy are bad in PC but worser then here never knew that

[spark basin]

what makes the blitz wz 121 so much better in contrast to its pc counterpart?

[kindred wren]

On PC it is obsolete because of the Object 430U and because it basically has a gun that is like a proper heavy tank, i.e. no great aim time and dpm

[spark basin]

oh i see

[solid gate]

Japanese Heavy Tanks next? :)

[fast compass]

Japanese heavies aren't coming to blitz

[solid gate]

D:

[fast compass]

Yikes. The number of times i repeat that, gboard suggested me the whole sentence after "Japanese"

[solid gate]

B-But my yuki no shingun!

Jk, but why tho?

[fast compass]

They are too big. That's all wg say about it everytime they are asked, and they get asked about these tanks a lot

[radiant coral]

BIG TONK Smol map, figure it out

[solid gate]

Make them smaller! Maybe like Action X!

[fast compass]

Closest thing to Japanese heavies you have is the kmm, which is essentially heavy tank no.VI

[solid gate]

The E50M with 75 crew and only 3 equipments already seems much much better than the E50

The E50 was a total POS unlike what many claimed
Such a huge disappointment it was
E50M is a nice prize