#vehicles-discussion
1 messages · Page 368 of 1
LMAO
Should I be using the 100mm or the 122mm on the SU-100? The 122mm is fun, sure, but I seem to be getting more consistent results with the 100mm - and even then, the 100mm’s better reload and gun handling means that I can mount TD-specific equipment like calibrated shells and supercharge, whereas I’d have to to grab gun rammer and gun laying drive for the 122mm just to get decent handling for the thing
I recommend the 122 most of the time but if the 100 clicks with you there is no reason to change it up.
You can’t restore Sheridan missile if you sell it
Oh
If you’d recommend the 122mm, what advantages does it have over the 100mm other than the obvious one (alpha)?
It has slightly more pen on standard and HE, but the main thing is the alpha as you said. I just think the 400 alpha suits the tank a lot better as an ambush td with a threatening amount of alpha. The 100 has better stats in most areas, but the gun still isn’t accurate enough or snipe, and it’s not crazy enough to just burn stuff down. In most cases, especially with the Su having downsides such as gun angles, low HP, and not much armor, I am willing to sacrifice some other stats just for the extra alpha.
play jg pz 4 instead
Su 100Y*
Funny, I used to have it but then decided that the SU-152 would suit my play style better than the Jagdpanther, and so I switched lines
i mean, if you want something that burns hp then use jg instead of 100mm su
How about adding steyer achtrad , puma , maultier mit nebelwerfer . Those where the recon of Germany 1941-1943
True, true, but imo I just prefer big alpha oof guns
Guess that maultier mit nebelwerfer is like 8 times as deathly as Sheridan with atgm. It’s burst scatter doom on the battlefield
will there ever be a bt-42 even as an European class tank?
no
;-; sad
@atomic stump That would just be a slow FV 4005
Each shot would be 540 alpha
I like how every time my foch155 gets spotted every enemy feels the need to shoot at me
And they are still too bad to kill me with that
Which tier ten tank should I buy in the Auktion
?
I mean tier 10 in the auctions
i didnt feel like playing more than 2 games in m60 but it has okay reload, wouldve been bad if i paid for it
Ok still thank you
t95e6 has a sharp dpm gun but it's not well armoured
you can play the E5 or M60 and be better
i enjoyed it more than chieftain mk 6 even though its at average maybe, nice gun handling
I love the Chieftain and that's why I'm looking for something in the direction
T95E6 has pretty eh DPM
also has the Chrysler building on top of it lol
That's true XD
what happends when u get the maltida bp twice
You get credits as compensation and the garage slot
how the frick do you use a arl v39 [ i have NO free exp and not the top gun ]
@soft bridge Snipe. The camo rating is ok, and the gun is pretty good, although you'll have to tough it out until you max it
Which is better MK1 or Progetto 46? Was wondering which to get from auction if both would be on sale?
Depends
Prog is faster with a autoreloader with 240 alpha and a troll mantlet plus spaced armor on the side to protect from he. The mk1 has a good turret good speed and a great auto loader with 190 alpha. It’s up to what you want
Well sounds like progetto would be nicer. I do prefer higher alpha
They are both extremely good tanks
Also I think mk1 has a higher clip dmg
Bc it gets 4 shells over the progs 3
for me prog but just because of the sleek profile and mobility
mk1 feels "slower-paced"
v39 how
This entire "hit symbol system" seems drunk
Like, a triple track crit without him losing his tracks
How 3, why 3?
@hollow notch HE splash area covers the track
._.
don't mind as I splash through the tank's hull
Yup, I don't think they'd dive that deep into the mechanic
Yea, but really. I HE pen, no internal modules damaged, but an external one? Bruh
RNG be RNG
expected damage: engine, crew, ammorack
REALITY: TRACK LOL
But hey, I'm happy with 1/2 of an isu
WZ-120 is great
WZ-120s -3°: ”Are you sure about that?”
Yes
Im sure
Sometimes I wish it would be more than that, but the rest of the gun makes up for it
Bruh why Soviet heavies have long time reload... I feel like their potenial is wasted with ridiculous load times
the 122mm shell of the IS-2 weighed in at 25kg
Bruh its so heavy
mind you it’s also cramped as heck in the turret, Soviet tank doctrine prioritised armour, road/off-road performance, and weaponry over crew comfort. so on most Soviet tanks, you get cramped turrets, but a great gun, and it’ll run for ages.
Not gonna argue about weapon quality lol
What if WarGaming decided to add in the Italian Heavy Tanks from WoT PC, with the new Auto-Reloading System? (The new system is just a Continuous reloading, even when firing, it won’t reset the shell reload for those who have been living under a rock.)
@hollow notch if you think that’s off I once killed a driver from shooting an IS 1s cupola
Lol
If you were smart you'd have researched BL-9 on IS-3 beforehand.
@formal karma ah yes, the tier 8 on a different line
@solid gate all stock guns are pointless unless it's like the SU-152, they exist as an option with a grind
Eh, when I go into tech trees I tend to research everything so that I can come into the next tier with as little modules to research as possible, guess it's a different mindset.
Well, saving free xp is also an option.
That's a pitfall, don't spend free xp on researching tanks, spend it on modules so you don't go through stock syndrome
imagine not saving free exp for the M-62
Imagine not going through IS-8 First to get the M62 gun for your ST-1.
Imagine BUYING the A32
After some grinding
@vagrant sage mememme branch off plz
Its nice that i even have enough xp for the gun upgrade right away :D
@brazen tangle tank is great. Make sure to use enhanced engine boost. I also use recticle calibration instead of repair kit but others use the repair kit
Y tho. The hull of the 4202 is flat af, and highly angled. Cent AX hull is giant and an ez pen
Turrets are the same shape, so it's not gonna be any better turret wise. (Armor values can easily be adjusted on a 4202)
Mobility entirely depends on how they decide to balance the tank, so the cent realistically gains nothing there
The centAX gains nothing in comparison, and loses the best medium hull in tier 10. I don't understand why anyone would want an AX over a 4202
uh I think fv and e50m have the best hull
Blitz 4202 is the Cent AX but better. On PC, the only things that made the Cent AX better than 4202 were the increased speed and the HEAT ammunition, but the Blitz 4202 already has both of those, without the drawbacks of being bigger and squishier
The primary advantage of the Cent AX is that the Cent AX is super cool looking
E50 is giant, armored yes, but giant. 4202 hull is tiny with the same armor profile
how do i get dmg in e100. Im stuck at like 2700 which is god awful
HE spam
turret go brr
@brave night shhhh
HE spam wins games by telling other super heavies to screw off but at 4 RPM 250 300 dmg isn't enough @wise moth
Just rig games with failtoons against paper targets. Ez HE damage
@quasi mirage Also run gun rammer, unless you want to be a slightly slower VK 72 with less armor, Gun rammer is the difference between having more DPM than IS tanks, and having the 2nd lowest DPM in the tier
I dunno, more HE pen is really useful for nuking the sides of meds
CS vs GR is always a good discussion, to be honest I'm trying Jagdpanzer E100 with CS but I'm not seeing great results
Doesn’t the jgpze100 already have the highest penning heat?
Yep, but with CS you get an actual very good HE pen and even more HEAT pen, 418mm to be exact
Oh yea he pen, I use gr and don’t have any issues. Maybe I’ll try to see how it plays w cs
I, personally, miss that 1.1 second of difference, I lost some good snapshots because the reload didn't come on time
Super heavies are a good excuse to use CS, but I'm not fighting them 24/7
Yea I do fine with gr, I like being able to snapshot
I see JgPz as a sort of DPM machine, since it actually out-DPMs the 152/155mm TDs like 268, E3, 113g FT and E4. Coupled with already good pen, and 800 alpha, it can shred through heavy tanks like no other TD can if you can funnel them in front of the Jgpz.
Well, I used enough CS for jageroo, now I'll let it for tanks that actually needs it, like Bat Chat or Type 62 (ngl, I use it on E5 too, 374mm of HEAT in a heavy is funny)
Honestly, it's a real shame that they took away the old 420 HEAT pen on the Jgpz. That nerf was thoroughly undeserved, and unnecessary
I do find myself switching to cs more recently. I’ve always stuck with gr, but I’ve switched a good amount of my tanks to cs now like the chieftain mk6, Russian meds and a few others
Should I grind for the t-44 or is the grind just not worth it
Well cent ax can have better turret armour values comparsd to 4202 because of that garbage hull, while 4202 with the same turret will probably be op
Heat gun is a joke for 4202 right now..?
I haven't seen a 4202 using heat since a long time ago, it feels like 6 months or more, idk I don't play too much tier 10 battles
I tried and had ultimate lose streak XD
should i wait till new tanks arrives?
Wait
Hello gamers, enriching a tech tree tank is forever or for limited time? And is generally speaking convenient?
Yes the permanent enrichment option is forever. It's too costly, go for unique premiums of your choice instead; extra tanks for you to play.
Thanks!
Imagine , how much gonna be in gravity force Sheri missiles xD
Same as usual? Literally no difference there was 3 every game last time
No
There gonna be all teams of Sheridan missiles
No there won’t be
This is kind of vehicle related, I guess? I just thought it would be the best to ask. I have been playing the game for quite a long time, with a few breaks, and have been having a lot of fun. I am a pretty bad player honestly, but that never bothered me as I am not really a competitive person. I heard that as you progress through the tiers, you will eventually make less credits and battle, and I heard that in tier X battles you will usually lose credits. But it happened sooner... recently I unlocked my first tier VIII, and although I like the tank, and its fun, I can barely break even, most of the time I even lose credits... The tank I am using is T-34-2. I am only using the basic consumables, and only when really needed, I do not use provisions ar anything like that at all, and I only care a few premium rounds that I rarely use. Yet I still lose money most of the time. Is that normal? Should I just stick to lower tiers or something? :/ I do not have premium account, and I have no premium tanks either.
Don't lose heart, for stock grind you might not be doing enough damage to cover repair costs. I too, don't use provisions, and use consumables and prammo only when I really need to. I started doing this with RU251 (Tier 8 too) because I had credit problems :laughing:
I trust that as you get better you will earn more credits / after you exit stock grind. For me even in tier X I earn some credits usually, unless I waste prammo / use consumables wastefully
@Alex Jade#4130
@zealous anchor Oh, I am past stock grind. I just do not make enough either way. Someone has shown me some chart with credit making coefficients and my tank was amongst the worst x.x I wiill probably manage, its just that I will need to play some low tier tanks too to make some credits. Till now I was just playing this one line. Aaand maybe I will have a premium tank in the end 😮 I am a pretty casual player, but I think I might be able to get the Matilda BP from the event in time.
Moss ur chance to get a perm in the snow globes. Then use that prem to get credits
Yep you will eventually get a premium for free
Alright, how the heck should i run the e100?
I gave up, i averaged about 2300 in that tank, and 48% wr.
What equipment should i use? How does this tank's rotation work?
This is one tip that I'd give for using it. If you are going to sidescrape initially angle your turret out so it's more perpendicular to your hull, but making sure you keep you turret side hidden. As you wiggle, you can then turn your hull and turret together to get your gun lined up, one quick snapshot and then keep your turret moving in that direction so you get back to a normal turret angle looking in about the same direction as your hull. If you do this right you are showing about 370mm on the first screenshot, a split second where it decreases to 300 when shooting and then 340 in the last screenshot, but you can drive closer to the cover at that time so you are harder to hit. I can send a replay of it if you want a better explanation but not rn @strange thicket
Sidescraping is basically the name of the game for the E 100
By the way, the bottom one is perfectly suitable against most tanks, especially if you drive a bit more into cover so your turret front isn’t shootable. The top one is a bit unorthodox but especially effective for peeking against high pen guns that refuse to just shoot you
^^ I found that it really struggled sidescraping normally as soon as people switched to prammo so I started using that method more. People don't expect it at all and get very trigger happy when they see it, and if you can snapshot well then by the time they react to you turning your turret to shoot you back, you have already fired and are into the normal sidescraping position
I kind of already knew of the last position but the first one seems quite interesting
Definitely gonna try it, now for the tank's rotation with the team? Because i kinda suck with rotating slow tanks, basically the same problem i had with the jagtiger, where should i be at most of the times? Well of course except next to a wall. How do i work that mobility?
Always drive towards the enemy, unless none of your teammates do
If you are going to go with the heavies then you need to stay back from the front line because as soon as more than one person starts focusing on you the armour falls apart really. You have enough hp and armour not not be forced into being passive, but you can't be overly agressive. If you run with the meds then you want to stay as close to them as possible because if you get singled out then you are screwed. From what I remember I tend to go with the meds but taking risky shortcuts so I don't get left behind, but it's best to see what works for you own playstyle
Alright, thanks for the tips.
if facehugging an IS-7/4 just give up, they load prammo u gone fam
If it's an IS7 you have a decent chance if you can watch where they aim and angle your turret more than normal to make sure you bounce but against an IS4 facehug most things just give up lol
heck, if you get side hugged, just load HE and splash the top of their turret
HE them if nothing helps. But I rather recommend driving backwards while turning away to get a shot on the upper front of the IS-7 and on the deck of the IS-4
IS-7 has a very small HE-able weakspot on the turret roof
also know that for every shot you fire in the E100, the IS-4 can nearly fire 2
Yeah, but you have enough hp to survive long enough to get help (if there is any to be had). It’s not the worst case scenario for the tank
I would avoid sidescraping in an E-100. Just treat it as if every shot that hits you is going to pen, your "armor" is your HP, not your actual armor profile
That’s just plainly refusing to use the armour
if you see is4
just call tactical nuke
Like, you can angle as a last resort, but for the most part, unless you're fighting low pen mediums, you're not going to bounce much
It takes like no effort to angle. I don’t know where the benefit is in just not caring and simply making yourself an easier target
I usually just prefer to roll around the corner at an angle, snap off the shot, then roll back rather than setting up the sidescrape, and letting them shoot me first
That sounds like a masterplan to get tracked and damaged. I can’t approve of promoting such strategies
Playing E4 again because it’s 3 AM and why am I actually enjoying it
@solid gate 3AM E4 session hits different
@solid gate Because E4 is actually pretty good. One of the better TDs in this meta IMO
Because it’s a nice and fun tank that’s actually very effective with the gun
I’m running CS and full gold
@solid gate uh
Lol, error 404 income not found
But why........
The pen is already fantastic, and the DPM is kinda low
Must.
Butter.
Everything .
But it already does....
Not enough
I mean, it’s for fun so okay
need more butter.
295 AP pen is almost as good as the gold shells on the AMX M4 54, and the 375mm APCR pen is second only to the Ho Ri
We need overpen mechanics just for dog of wisdom’s APCR spam in the E4 XD
Overpen mechanics would actually make mediums even worse
what is overpen
Overpen is when a shell enters the tank and penetrates through everything it encounters, including the rear armour and doesn’t spall, so effectively the shell just travels through the entire vehicle and exits it as if it wasn’t there, only lowering the penetration potential of the round
Or to put it differently, the shell comes out on the other side of the tank and keeps flying
lel
they should have done that with t28 defender
as it has "railgun"
with a muzzle break
Lol
The worst part I’m not even bleeding credits that badly with prem account
play grille
How badly is it bleeding credits?
If you want to bleed credits try hunting butterflies with HESH in the 183
I was about 100+ hp remaining and shot my full 3 rounds of AP and 1 HE round about 5 APCR 2,5k and only 14k credit bleed
@candid harbor technically t28 defenders railgun would have the most powerful impact out of every gun in the game
yeah but that muzzle break ruins shell velocity
xD
Muzzle breaks dont effect shell velocity?
They do if they cover the cannon barrel 😛
Fastest shell velocity in the game....
Also highest velocity 150/152/155mm in the game
God I don’t like how I’m actually enjoying this
@Galm#9430 railguns don't need muzzle break to dampen visibility or reduces recoil
as no expanding gases are used
imagine the snapshots on LTs with the T28D
Pros and cons of the 12 cm and 15 cm guns on the waffle?
Just run the big one or no one will take u serious
Oh, so durp?
Any tips to play leopard PT A
@south gust yup, high alpha. Its accurate enough to snipe with, and the fear factor of alpha is not present with the 128
Most people thinks grille is easy to kill but when you got shot by grille, you know he's not easy to kill
And 1 more thing about... T110E4 it's the best but the turn rate is slow
cry because leopard 1 is vastly overshadowed
Nice
Nah, leo top 3 meds
@solid gate long range shooting. Find a place where you can get good side shots on heavies and farm.
Definitely not. Avoid getting shot at all costs
And thats why my first tries werent good
Note that this does not mean camp in the spawn either. Use the fantastic mobile to find targets to kill.
how should i play the eraser bp44, it seems like it has a strong front armor, but i am not sure
should i try to use the 10degrees gun depresion?
well it does, but the ARL is better, the 90mm is miles better than the 105 due to pen and DPM
i never had the arl
get the ARL then
ok
The only problem with the arl is the crippling reverse speed combined with the traverse. It lolpen 90mm is great though
hmm, so what does the eraser have over the arl
Eraser is better than arl, if the arl uses the 105mm.
I would argue t22 med, stb 1, and T62a are better.
Arl top gun has higher pen that most tanks in its tier
Aight, @lyric oriole you may want to check the pen loss over distance. The grille loses more than the leo
this info is great but it doesnt explain how i can use it effectively in battle
how much pen does the grille have again
Use the arl as a support 2nd line tank
279 @lyric copper
Honestly i played 2nd line support and smash through everything with my gun.
ah yes, let’s compare 255 pen to 279 pen great idea
@lyric oriole
Also we are not over shadowing the Leo 1 just saying it doesn’t replace the grille
You out trade most things. You just have to wiggle back and forth. And use your gun depression since your turret face is kind of weak
Plus it has a extra like 20mm of base pen anyway
The difference is the grille is FORCED to engage frontally, while the leo has the option of sides because of how much more flexible and fast it is
Well then it doesn’t replace what the grille does
leopard 1 ain’t bad on paper, trash in an actual battle
It makes it a hell of a lot better than a grille
248.88 here's the pen loss for Leopard 1 with 2° normalization
But it doesn’t fur fill the role of the grille
Wait that's not right
if I’m gonna get HEd in a Leopard, may as well play the grille, deal more damage, and have better pen
Leo is good but it doesn’t replace the grille in what it does
for eraser, more health or better armor
Heath
269.9883
This is the pen for Grille 15 with 5° normalization and better overmatch
Health bc everyone will butter through you in my experience
ok
btw, still standing on my hill of “Leopard 1 is overshadowed”
better engine or better control for eraser?
I always go engine bc I think control is useless but it’s up to you
Eraser doesn't need a buff
He’s asking about equipment
Ah
bruh moment
is the d.w 2 a good tank, i am thinking about recovering it along with the duck tank
It's pretty solid
B1 is better I believe?
how much gold does recover cost for the teir 4 collectors
hmm i can only recover one tank every 365 days?
Depends if its prem or not tech tree ones go for 100 gold to restore some others are 1.5k gold but they are prems
No its old you can restore as much tanks as you want they need to change the description
Type 62
@brittle atlas lkpz
hmm, have fun troll tank or have tank with 100mm he pen, hmmmmm
Go for the Type 62
maybe, tbh i have a 36% wr in it, but its reasonable bc i yoloed every game
dice roll it
ok what numbers for tyoe 62 and what numbers for lekpz
@brittle atlas 2,4,6 for one, 1,3,5 for the other
The in-game Recovery tool allows players to restore Premium, Collector and Event vehicles. The characteristics of collector vehicles could change. You can
im trying to find a die
if you wanna spice it up get a D20 and assign even numbers to one tank, odd numbers to the other
its a 1. time to grind 1.5m for type 62
mayo once agian missreading chat lmaoo
ig i have to use the 47 purple credit boosters now
How was I supposed to know what numbers you meant
Why would I mute you?
a funi joke, idk
Is Maus good?
Not a funny joke
Im not camper style player. I hate camping
Low-key feel like the VK 36.01 H is better than the Tiger I because most of the things that fight the VK can't pen it if you angle it well
But the Tiger I just feels like you're a medium but a big target and virtually everything can pen you
Tiger 1 is much more of a heavium, you have a stronger turret, more mobility, and a much better gun
Yeah it does and I'm still adjusting to the playstyle, I've gotten used to the idea of using myself as a shield once I get the heavy role and then protect the softer teammates as much as I can while they pick on something that's shooting at me but I can't do that well with the Tiger I and I need to adjust again
Plus VK kinda has spaced armor (which is supposed to hold extra parts of the track) and gives additional protection from the VK H's sides
Question, for it's tier which has better frontal armor
The Tiger I or Panther, panther seems to have really good frontal because it's sloped
Panther has the better upper glacis
Noted, grabbing it
I personally love panther. Flexible, good gun and pretty good armor
the gun makes the comet look bad
the Comet is bad
I like it
I'm glad
but the fact that panther has the same speed and better gun with better armor just makes it bad
even without the Panther it still would be bad
I should I use the L/52 or the L/68 on tiger 2
L/68
JP II
ok
what is the next premium i should recover, i got eraser, dw2, and waiting on type 62,
M41 90mm
should i carry about the same amout of he and ap?
I go third of ammo he third ap and thrid heat
thats alot of heat
oh its snowing agian, we got like 2 feet of snow and now this
well you only get like 30 rounds
I don't remember my loadout but it's something like 19, 5, 11 but I don't remember I also don't carry much HEAT because I don't need to use it too terribly often
i go 18, 10, 18
to me carrying alot of heat is pointless, i carry about 5 gold rounds every tank i have, unless its the t49
I just carry it just in case
bruh i just updated my chromebook and now it says there is an update avable and that i should restart...
lmao
welp guess ill wait for like 3 mins for it to restart
aight im back and apperntly i got my type 62 whilest waiting for my chromebook to restart, yay
I’m bored so I have some Ideas for new premiums (that won’t break the game) (totally not taken from War Thunder but shhhh)
STA-3: Improved gun handling at the cost of spotting distance, with the shrinking of the cupola and removal of the engine deck hump.
M4A3E2 “Cobra King”: A spiritual brother to the Fury, with pre 5.5 jumbo armor with lesser mobility. Think of it as a Maus at T6. The gun may be the Long 76 or short 75, although if it were the short 75 there would obviously need to be penetration improvements.
Yes these are taken from War Thunder but I believe they can have a place inside Blitz’s inventory. I don’t think these would be broken, though balancing would be appreciated from more experienced members of the community
opinion on this beast ?
Bully meds
Just think of it as a worse t 22 medium
DatGay#2631 has been warned.
Change your Username
How do you even compare a t22 to a is8?
They should bring out the OBJ430U
And profile picture
No.
Just no.
DatGuy#2631 was banned
I mean it would only power creep 113
How to get legendary camouflage on the FV215b?
@sand ridge I love the IS-8. It’s steadily become one of my favorite tier 9s
Agreed it is a good tank 🙂
"but why kv1 is bruh?"
????
Not sure why IS-8 is hated tho
Because people see the heavy tank symbol and expect to play it like a maus...
But why do they see a light/medium/heavy symbol as a TD symbol then?
I am hating the mauschen how to play it??
KV-1 used to be better than T1 Heavy
Now its just bad
Should I get the kv-4?
The K-91 is good?
The tank is good
But the tier it is at is not
Oh
But don't take my word on that
Im just some random scrub
....
Also there's real info of K-91?
Hello i need opinions on the Fv215B. Im 20k short.
Lorain vs pantera. Which tank do you think is overall better? I feel like I always do better in the Lorain but not sure which one is indeed superior
Lorraine IMO. Pantera just doesn't have the damage output to justify itself
And yet
Most pantera drivers are brainlessly rushing in to deal 1 clip of dmg and die
Pantera. Reloading shells 1 by 1 is far superior to having 2 shells left in the clip and going, "welp, time to halve my dpm"
I will take an autoreloader over an autoloader anyday
Pecking away at tanks while preventing them from rushing you is something the lorr just can't do.
progetto 46 4life though
Kran is pretty good
kran is so boring, like its a joke. I average 3.4k but its so slow and boring to work with. Just go hull down and farm. If you can't go hull down just reload your clip 30 seconds at a time and trade
I just got Kran because I was bored and there were some gamemodes on.
Burning Games and Mad Games 😔
Is the T10 Progetto any good?
All things being equal, of course an autoreloader is better than an autoloader, but the problem here is that the Pantera's gun simply is miles away from Lorraine. 3s interclip on 225 alpha is pretty bad, and you only have 3 shells compared to the Lorraine's 4. Having less pen just makes it even worse. Lorraine can actually punish enemies with its clip, whereas Pantera simply lacks the firepower to really be efficient, despite the autoreloader.
Being slower than the Lorraine too also only adds insult to injury. Sure it won't have long periods where it's unable to contribute, but being large and paper, making the most of the opportunities you do get to shoot is paramount, and Pantera just doesn't even come close to Lorraine in that regard
Prog65 is lovely. You just have to manage your shells and not shoot 99% loaded shells
prog 65 has awful gun handling, just play the standard b
Standard doesn't have that juicy upper plate
If I can make Kran and Emil lls DPM OP, I can handle the Prog.
@wise moth ever notice how many tier 9s get or had better gun handling than the tier X? Like standard B vs prog 65 or batchats or t92 vs sheri?
I've noticed. Also, T-10 vs. IS-7
tbf t10 has a 420 dmg gun vs is7 460.
Even Mauschen vs. Maus
111 1-4 to 113 is particularly funny though
The problem with the Lorraine is that it NEEDS an opportunity to dump a clip. The pantera is so much more useful in general because it doesn't get trashed when forced into situations where single/double shots are the only available times to shoot
Being slower than a lorr?
Bruh
Lorr is a giant paper box
At least the pant won't eat HE frontally
i wonder how tourneys in tier 9 go? @wise moth what be your bets for team comp if tourneys were tier 9?. Its fairly well balanced. Only problem is there would be no mediums but the vikders CR
Are we trying to decide whether the lorraine 40T or the Pantera is better?
k91s? they seem pretty solid
One's a prem, one's a tech tree tank. Pantera is objectively better due to that fact already.
wym, Lorraine will make credits
k91 probably would be the baseline for tier 9 tourneys, if i had to guess. Has the mobility for micro rotations and has a deadly clip
And the highest heavy dpm
50 120 has more alpha with less intraclip, but no armor at all ofc
so yeah 50 120 wouldn't be used. 150 more clip potential isn't really worth it
@little tangle two reasons for me: Pantera will help you get Standard B, then Progetto: and two: you can get it for free.
that's fair
You can also get Lorraine for free, but it will take some saving.
I see. So you're saying you can get somewhere by playing it?
so 4 k91s, 2 vickers CR and 1 TD?
@quasi mirage Back in like CW3, I compiled a bunch of stats on tank performance/popularity in the tier 9 league, although that was a long time ago:
Highest average damages:
- WT Auf Pz IV: 1990
- T30: 1712
- Kpfz 70: 1562
- Bat 25t AP: 1507
- Obj 704: 1479
- M46: 1340
- STI: 1284
- VK 45.02B
- E-75: 1264
- M103: 1245
- T54E1: 1220
- IS-8: 1192
- T-54: 1170
- PTA: 1153
- E-50: 1146
- Conqueror: 1141
Most used: (1989 uses total)
- STI: 374
- T30: 288
- T-54: 269
- E-75: 210
- Bat Chat 25t AP: 138
- AMX 50 120: 121
- Kpfz 70: 118
- IS-8: 116
- M46: 77
- M103: 46
- VK 45.02B
- WT Auf Pz IV: 35
- /13 Object 704: 29
- /12 Conqueror: 29
- T54E1: 28
- E-50: 21
- Leo PTA: 19
- SU-122-54: 9
- /19 Foch: 7
- /18 Centurion 7/1: 7
- T95: 5
- Jagdtiger: 3
- Tortoise: 2
I bet the TD of choice would be WT pz 4
@little tangle Yes, Pantera -> Standard B -> Progetto.
interesting, so batchat 25 ap is replaced obviously by vickers CR, k91 is better than ST1 in most areas. but t30 can still be used
That's fair, hella DPM and real armor, although I don't think the SU-122-54 would be uncommon
At tier 9, I think the main battle tank might actually be M103 now.
ah true good point due to the super speed, I think it would still be the k91s although m103 is possible
makes sense
M103 has decent turret though, which is pretty important
Hmmm
Is8 has better alpha and a better turret
103 turret isnt particularly... good
M103 has a good turret, Super goofy hull armor
maybe split down with 2 m103s and 2 k91s
I still think the ST I would be similar to IS4s
st1 is too slow compared to an is4 to make a rotation
STI would probably get spammed a lot like it was in the past, but, honestly it wouldn't be my personal picks in a lot of lineups
Yea, I forgot it's slower
k91 probably is the most versatile due to that 1050 initial push damage for focus firing along with pretty good gun handling
https://clips.twitch.tv/SmokySucculentSamosaPRChase "good gun handling"
would there be any mediums or lights used besides the vickers cr ? @wise moth or the amx 30 1 prot?
STI was the #1 most used tank back in the day, although the meta was slower and teams in CW3, especially in the tier 9 league, were less developed, but the performance was pretty mediocre.
The one thing that stands out to me though is how terrible the T-54 was. Most common medium, but horrific damages, which is not what you want out of your mediums.
And that just kinda tells me that the generalist med might not actually be all that great, especially now that heavies have so much HP
^
thats true although not sure what medum would be brought along besides the vickers or atleast amx for hull down
There's an argument somewhere that the PT A has great gun + speed, it could roll with the Vickers
@quasi mirage Clippers likely. Standard B, and honestly, Bat AP might still be relevant
Or DPM oriented meds like Type 61/Patton
I should point out that M46 actually did really well statistically
vickers just has 200 less dpm than the patton/type 61 with more camo/viewnrage/mobility and armor. I think the vickers would still be used a lot more
Although, it really begs the question, why bring mediums when you can just use T-10s instead?
yeah thats why vickers light, it actually has serious mobility/camo/view range advantages over a t-10
I think a good "standard" lineup might be to bring 1 Vickers, double T-10, double M103, double K-91
The vickers' dpm goes up to 3.4k when using HE, of which it has 116mm pen, so it can kill soft target faster tyhan meds
soft targets would be pretty rare, excluding the other mediums
Yea actually that's a good point
I shouldn't be here, I've barely done tourneys before
Also, if the enemy team uses T-10s as pseudo-mediums, you won't be HESHing those lol
font armor too thick, side armor is a void, and rear won't be seen
seriously though, I never pen the side of Russian tanks
Aim for the tracks
also m46 patton pen is pretty mediocre so def wouldn't trust it too much. And obviously CS is worthless on it as its just an inferior Vickers at that point
The pen is bad, but tier 9 heavies aren't exactly tough targets
I do, just above actually, it usually goes in then
k91 side armor is more of a void
Unless the enemy is bringing significant STI's and E-75s, Patton won't really have many pen issues, and if the enemy is bringing those sorts of slow heavies, then you can probably just smash their face with DPM in a push
tier 9 tourneys would be interesting, WG really should do them
7 T-10s cyka blyat let's go
m103s would be risky if the k91 is popular though, you have to give up a repair kit and a bit risky against autoloaders
It is, but M103 is more or less your sacrifice tank
Drop speed, reactive, and with double HP provisions, he can soak up hits while your T-10s and K-91s do damage. And with M103's DPM, he can also do some damage before going down
yeah thinking would a batchat 25 ap still make sense, I feel like its way too risky with the vickers
7 su122 54s
If you pair Bat with a T-10 friend, or maybe a Vick as well or something, he can quickly eliminate the enemy light, which is huge
tier 7 would just be smashers and t29s right?
Let's not imagine that cesspool
t25 at is a meme with that light tank mobility, i was bored and made some unicum t62 mad coz i yoloed him at 60 kmh and rammed him and shot 2 HE shells to kill him
but yeah tier 7 would be absolute garbage, im not sure if anhillators would be super popular compared to the smashers HE to counter t29s
not sure what people would do for medums or lights, I feel the bulldogs raw dpm is pretty useful although t34-1 could happen too
I would probably bring 1 M41, and that might be the extent of my mobility
@wise moth it sucks they ruined the Leo (tier 7 swede) from PC. On PC it goes 60 kmh here its so slow
It's just too risky to have any more than 1 mobility tank when they can just be outright removed with a single bad peek
they buffed the armor but honestly i wanted a 60 kmh Leo
not some troll armor tank that isn't reliable
i still remember when the t49a came and it was used in tier 8 tourneys
I'm waiting for WG to ruin the T-100 lt by making it go 65
honestly one buff the batchat needs if WG isn't gonna change the clip size significantly @wise moth is a turret traverse buff. The turret traverse is so annoying
i think the batchat would be balanced for an above average player if WG wanted to keep it similar by giving 2.4 intraclip and 72 kmh top speed with a turret traverse buff. Also 265 or 270 base view range would be nice. All fairly small buffs but would probably finally finish the job
If they want to keep it a light, outright swapping the model for the AMX 13 105 would probably do wonders for it TBH. The AMX 13 chassis is so nice for a light
Like, the AMX 13 chassis is basically the only thing that keeps the 13 90 from just being straight garbage lol
Tiger 1 or Tiger (P), which one fares better in the face of constant Anni and Smasher spam in T7 nowadays?
what are the advantages? @wise moth gun depression and smaller?
the amx 13 90 used to be actually pretty good when it came in. The 2 second intra clip . Then they nerfed it to 2.5 because the "stats" said itw as OP @wise moth
Did you know that the TOG II* has a really powerful engine?
@quasi mirage AMX 13 is just absolutely tiny. Same gun depression as the bat.
Here's the Bat Chat in Orange with its silhouette superimposed on the AMX 13's silhouette. And Bat Chat is already a small tank, but AMX 13's size makes it able to hide in tiny nooks and crannies, even smaller bushes, and when playing hulldown, is crazy difficult to hit
true and give it the camo value @wise moth and NUT
on console and pc the grille has a max speed of 60 km / h and does 750 damage per shot, I think the grille would be better if it increased its speed to 60 km / h, penetration to 285, and damage per shot to 700 (his dpm would be reduced to 2950) (I hope he will not become totally broken)
@quasi mirage Here's the front profile of Bat in orange vs. AMX 13 in green.
Like, the AMX 13 is just sooooo tiny that the profile is a genuine advantage
The fact that AMX 13 makes Bat look like a fatty is just absurd, since Bat Chat is actually a pretty small tank already
interesting, so only loss would be i can't ram sheridans anymore to finish them off
Pretty much, but the camo and silhouette gains would be massive
not getting spotted even at 165 meters MEMES
@quasi mirage If you want to see an even bigger meme, here's an AMX 13 superimposed on the FV heavy
damn thats really good camo
25/2 is a watered down medium that trades view range and armor for a marginally better gun than most mediums
Which isn't saying much when most of the tier 7 medium guns are pure garbage
spent 3k gold,got snowglobe and got this
worth it?
Yes
irl tall people werent allowed in Amx 13 because its so small
I think people higher than 180cm werent allowed? something like that
"I think I'm a heavy tank"
Can anyone tell that I have buyed Indian Panzer after SP1C. Is Indian Panzer good?
It sucks
Uhm it's meh, the thing is just as good as being an annoying tank to use because it's a really really average medium, while Ru251 gives you HEP and mobility to relocate a lot. The Indien kinda offers some hulldown potential because it's so rare to see in a match that sometimes average people don't know where to shoot when it's hiding it's hull, but still a meh tank, and sufferable grind just to get PTA and getting greeted by it's stock grind.
How different is the maus to the E100?
Maus:
- Very well armored
- Slower than E100
- 400 alpha
- Highest health pool in game
- Cheeks are easily pen by gold and standard on some tank
E100: - Armor is decent
- A bit faster
- 640 or 460 alpha
- Turret is easily pen with gold
*460 alpha
is the amx mle 49 bundle worth it or should i wait for something else in the auction
Say for the t22 should I go with more armor or hp ?
Wait nvm why am I asking that question
hp
that tank bounces mostly due to angles
Wait for all the tanks in the auction, u might find something u like better.
How does the auction work? Do you actually bid on the tank or does WG set the price and you buy for gold at that price?
@hot flame every day the prices drop but the number of tanks is limited. The auction ends for this round of tanks some time during the 25th I think
Thank you Bob. So you’re actually buying, not bidding. Was confused why they called it an auction since the price is set as opposed to an auction where one actually bids on the price. Seems more like a store then an auction.
@hot flame yeah it’s not really an auction. The tanks are only worth it on the final day
It’s pretty much there is a limited amount of tanks and the price starts high and goes down every 24 hours. I think there are two or 3 sets this year
Are the top tracks and engine on T-34-2 even worth it? They cost over 39k total, but they only give me like 2 to 3 additional km/h and 3 degrees of rotation
@flint girder yes.
@flint girder hey, just wanted to say that EVERY upgrade is worth it. Some tanks share parts, for example an optional (gun upgrades that doesn't unlock next tier) gun upgrade that sucks might be actually good (or even the top gun) for another tank. For example, Jagdpanther has a gun that is entirely optional but provides better alpha than it's top gun that leads to Jagdpanter 2 or Ferdinand. If you research it, you'll find out that gun is actually the second gun of Ferdinand and Jagdpanther 2.
equipment suggestions on the jgpz e100 please mainly those related to the gun
Here
thanks
You’re welcome
I use CS on jag XD
Is the Churchill VII any good? The armour looks to be pretty decent to me, especially the hull sides for sidescraping, and the 77mm top gun doesn’t look that bad as well
why using rammer on any td when pen means everything for them bruh
I don’t really need more pen, it’s already good, and tbh for me that’s the perfect equipment
Also i don’t use any boost, just repear kit
I mean I use jagdtiger too lol and have issues to pen some heavies (maus line, e 100 etc) even with cs+prammo
Fair enough but its the mad dpm that makes the jagdtiger what it is so I went for a rammer
this happened
can't believe I got a mastery on something like this , 3k dmg too.
and next match I can't even hit anything
Which way to go
Haha. It’s funny when that happens. Get a mastery and feel like a pro. Next battle can’t pen nuthin and back to noob status. Gotta love it. Anyways, congrats on the ace.
?
301 obviously @pliant viper
Both have amazing pen and almost no hull armour at all. The Centurion can use it's turret armour and depression , which makes it really good for holding angles where depression is needed , like most places on the mid of maps. The Centurion is quite big too and slower that 301. The 301 is highest pen for T8 lights (I think) and the DPM for both tanks is really good(Although 301 has a bit more DPM). It's up to you because both the T9s that come after those tanks are really good.
Ok cool, thanks
Cent is just wack, 301 is better. don't play it on random battle you're power crept by many tanks.
I need to make the right choice cause I don't like the comet and don't wanna grind it much more
301
The 301 will be way better choice, then CR comes in to make your day enlighten after that you have the highest view range tank in the game which is the VL.
I'm gonna use my 50k free xp from vault and get the 301 after event ends
I understand that the tier 9 and 10 are good but is the 301 good itself?
You shouldn't fxp a tank because it's better to use it for your new tank modules.
301 is good.. just look at the chart it's amazing it beaten most mediums pen at the tier.
best gun alr unlocked because I got it on cent
Even though it's looked low on the chart the tank is just amazing for doing it's own job n roles pretty well.
I think it's the same gun , gonna have to check the tech tree again
Ok thanks
Have them both, 301 and vickers cr are way better then centurions. No reason to go for meds right now
Hi guys anyone can say to me if the M60 T10 med are good or totally USLESS plz ?? 🧐 thx 😊
Gud very good @red orchid
Do you guys think they should add an armor view for every tank?
how does one play the t49 effectively, i had some many frustrating moments with the tank, mainly the alpha of the he, the shells are too expensive for a 780 alpha
It kinda is a credit dump, so don't play the tank unless you got credits to spend.
It is a hit and run tank, sneak a shot and then get away.
You can also circle targets when you want to hit them with HE.
If you can't pen the target you are facing spam HE in its face.
@Dr. Heinz "Doof" Doofenshmirtz#6349
@brittle atlas
@pliant viper simple go for the lights because they outclass the mediums
ah ok, so its the type of tank you tactically yolo and just not make credits in, i see
You can make credits
But only if you go mainly with heat (or premium acc)
ok, i have like 7 days of premium some how and it doesnt seem to end lmao
Lucky you 👀
i keep getting days from the opreation and crates, i also have tons of certificates in storage,
I have several weeks of premium time lying around in form of certificates
Me who got 360 days of prem from mystery crates on top of the 224 I had before that
Me who is f2p
ah yes cancel culture is after 50 100 now
How about I do anyway?
- wargaming
It is my second highest preforming heavy
The only thing better was the Emil bc pre 7.5
I feel like that was the only thing they just saw out of this chat
FINALLY!
After lots of grinding, i got the waffle!
I dunno if I sell my lower tier german tds now, like the emil and nashorn
Now I'm probs gonna farm the American or french lights, i dunno which to choose tho
The batchat seems super cool but so does the sheridan
Or maybe another line of tanks
B-C is great
Since it will take ages to get the grille...
Maybe I'll start working towards the jageroo?
Grille isn’t worth it. Jageroo line is
Ok, I'll just stick with the waffle and borsig
Your going to enjoy the waffle much more
And probably sell the stug, nashorn and emil
sad Grille 15 noises
Let’s be real why would you get grille when waffle exists
Other than to say that you grilled someone when you kill them
Lmao
Roger that!
I already have the jagpanther, so now I just go forwards with the line?
Yeah
Awsome!
Do i sell those other tanks tho?
Which ones
Stug G, Nashorn and stuerer Emil
Or do i keep some?
If you enjoy them keep them if you don’t sell them
The thing is i haven't been playing with them in a while since I have the borsig and now the waffle along with the KV2, so that's why I was wondering
I want to know why nobody speak about the mt-25 because it is totaly BROKEN LOL
Wut
Bc you shove an HE shell up it's butt and it dies, i have no problems with them
Like, just let it waste ammo and shoot in return
Mt25 is the second most annoying tank and is super easy to beat
^
Ok ... but i like it
Kv2 He fodder
Then why are you saying it’s broken
MT-25, is pretty broken in a good player's hands it's just not utilized correctly.
Everything is there, decent armor for a light, 440 clip with the 45mm, 61 module damage per shot. I find it broken but not forgiving for most players
For me it’s easy to beat
^
I have started to enjoy durp guns more and holly mother of joseph, i always laugh like hell when I blow up light tanks and weak tds
I really suck playing Leopard, any tips? Aside hoping in matches that don't involve 4 heavies VS 1!
Which leopard
Tier 5
Flank and spank
Yas
Get around the back of tanks, dump clip, rinse and repeat
It’s got good dpm if I recall
Avoid durp daddies tho, hit them between their reloads or outspeed their traverse
I play kv2 and sometimes light tanks catch me between reloads and it's horrible
The front isn’t he able
The lower glacis is to some and the turret is
try 183
Also what's up with everyone trying to hunt down the poor leopard
I mean going 60 kph those are hard to hit
Leopard is kinda dangerous to leave alive
People have a tendency to go for the squishiest target
I hated the leopard when I was playing the nashorn and stug
which leo? 5 or 10?
Same thing happens to me in my 50 100
Also any tips on what to get after that?
Like tonk wise
I also have pz IV G tier 5 I think and yeah
The German lights are all solid especially ru 251
Pz 4 h I think goes to panther which gets you panther 2 and tiger 2
umm guys what should i pick to grind first is4 or t110e5?
E5
im a hulldown type person soo yea i think i should grind e5
Unless you have gone for is7 first or have the free xp don’t go is4 (I learned it the hard way)
ok then
Best fight I had was with Russian light tanks Lttp killing 2 tigers, rummiing to my death in the last heavy, I let my 4 teammates to take down the last one that had 400 hp and lost qwq
Being used to play the waffle line, what are some tips for playing the jageroo line?
Use your armor and don’t camp too much
Play second line
i have played jageroo line and it didn't go to well :|
Bruh
Question what's and how you play realistic mode?
So basically I can play more agressively as an assault td?
yes
Play it as a second line so just behind your heavies
@{G}Hey_Wasdle#5680 also most people will tell you JP2 over Ferdinand, let me tell you something:
If you aren't familiar with hulldown as a tank destroyer pick Ferdinand it's a bit more forgiving if you still consider yourself a newer player
Get Warthunder
Turn all your markers off or wait for the game mode
Okie? Because I saw the achievement but didn't know how to get it
Im not new to hull down, since the St.Emil is a god of hull down Imo.
I enjoy the style a lot, so ferdi or panther 2?
I usually played assault st emil and loved it, ppl always expect the st to camp but when holding a line hull down, and well supported by the team
The achievement is only for the game mode ignore the whole turning your markers off
For me personally Ferdinand, JP2 is huge and won't teach you how to play the line properly.
That and it's paper everywhere except the super structure
Is it unlocked or a game event?
And with 6° it’s hard to go hull down and yes it’s a game event
Thank you
Jg tiger is over cooked
Yo, should I get T28 and T95 if I already have T30 researched and fitted top modules?
Yeah
T28 proto was a pain to play...
Is T28 the same?
I mean.. decent gun but paper armor?
The tog 2 and the KV2 are the best| change my mind
My KV-2 disagrees with you
Much better opinion 😄
But nothing can beat the t2 medium
big boi
Cool
Can't wait to get it!
Btw I was asking, after the jagpanther do i go ferdi or panther 2? Which is better? What are their pros and cons?
JP II has a better gun, more mobility, and can hulldown.
Ferdi might be slightly easier to play because of the boxy armor profile and wide gun angles.
[WOTB] Hey guys, can someone tell me for auction week 2, starting december 25 2020, what vehicles will be there ? I got 30k Gold, and want the chieftain (i wonder if it will ever be in auction)...
Let me know if you guys hear anything..
M60 is worth to buy?
M60 is a generic tier 10 medium. It's nothing special, m48 and stb are gonna be basically the same thing
Mmh yeah
Mm was kind to me
Sp1c is fine
Today was kind chill
Consider how the team were
Took over 20 loses in row last game a win with Mastery badge. Matchmaker and game mechanic quite kick on face today.
Im sucking away your luck
Thats what it is :smug:
legendary camo suggesion: VK 168.01 (P) Behemoth
The T49's HEAT is premium ammo?
the HE is premium not the HEAT
Ah ok
is a worth the bundle of chimera y amx m4 mle. 49?
No m4 49 is hella boring. The chimera on the other hand, I'd grab that
My first tier 10, how should I play it?
Play with premiums in two games you will be out of credits
Is Eagle 7 worth the grind?
grind for snowglobe, if u dont get in time get the eagle
AMX AC mle.54 Looks like it has a 500 mm gun
Ah yes
Vindicator UM wants to have a talk
Jajaja
Yeah the French have a nice muzzle
The BC25t's one which looks kinda like a mustache is my fav there
Can someone teach me how to play the M4A3E8 because I just keep dying while using it
When you face the enemy directly, do it with teammates. its armor isn't the best, and use ur gun and mobility to ur advantage
ok
Matilda bp is a machine gun!++
Pulls out Churchill with the 57
How about a little more?
Now you just ruined the reference, I don't see anyone saying "Now that's alotta damage!". :|
Haha 75mm go brrrrt
Tier VIII is the most fun to play. At least in my opinion.
I agree especially of ur in emil 1 or tiger II
Or in my case RU
Its like a tiny Leo 1
Love the Churchill I with the fastest single-shot reload in the game
At7 autoloader is basically a single shot
True
guys , are T28 Def is good ?
Depends on your playing styles
It’s alright, gold spam makes the armor useless
@hollow notch Churchill I still has more shots per minute
The pen is the worst in the t8 TD
@lethal kindle there’s one other tier 8 TD with worse pen
rhm lmao
If you are playing the 28d like a td, you are doing it wrong. It's a low hp heavy.
Love the Lowe, it can frontline, snipe, and support ;)
But it can't move
Moves fine to me
._.
You only play t95s or something?
Nah, I love the Lowe, it doesn’t need to move that much when it gets into heavy fights
yep, Lowe is an incredible heavy
even better than IS-6 in my opinion, it's cannon is perfect for snapshots
snapshoting at frontline or sniping on Lowe is more like an art than just a normal gameplay, it's basically the main battle heavy
also, talking about precision, I'm finally getting better on 268 and mostly because of it's precision
Was forced to back up into the ravine in Castilla and apparently terrain resistance is pointless and doesnt stop you from sliding along with map design is so awful you’ll get stuck on the side and drown while half your turret is unsubmerged
I really do support the idea of removing that god awful map
Guys, any idea on how to use the stock Standard B?
Fxp it or just play it 2nd liner support, and don't even bother to make plays yet, because your gun is not so great but its nice to have 4 clip the follow up shots won't be that good, the mobility is wack since its stock, so you better off finding a good supporting position and not letting yourself traded.
okay , i decide to buy chimera instead that
T28D is meh not a great TD, the only good about it is just the autoloading mechanism but other than that its just meh... slow, unreliable flat armor, etc.
men the auction seems tentative but im deciding whetever or not buy a tank from it
don't buy, they all are generally overpriced, only real reason to buy from that event is if something rare arrives which isn't sold in store like m60, otherwise wait dem tanks to come in store, they would be much cheaper
chimera is a worth?
i love that thing
should i buy alone?
People talk about it's gun depression so I'm guessing it's a good hill tank
You should buy it with the 4 49 bundle because you'll have like a cheaper price tags for the 4 49 to get it in your collections both tanks are amazing, the 4 49 is just acts as French Tiger II
Omg how manny try,s
E100 is more playable as TD and semi frontline tank be careful it’s not fast
It bounce some shots if good angles are kept . It outperforms maus and punches as good as average td
Why doesnt wargaming nerf the smasher and the annilator and the emil , emil 2 karnvagn turret.
Are u actually bad at the game or something
Why wargaming won’t include kugelblitz and flakpanzer E100 and E10 . They would Impact gameplay . Flakpanzers have extreme elevation and (semi)auto cannons , E10 is a low prophile lo cost TD to sneak attack . Would be fun to have a heavy armored fast firing low alpha nasty tank that could damage modules beyond repairs in a few secs . E100 flakpanzer should have semi auto 8.8 flakzwilling delivering 4 shots in two sec . Before reloading . Would be great to perma track or outgun enemy light stuff
E10 doesn't exist
that karnvagn and the emil is just to good, you know the top it says you can pen it but nope its invinsable
The krav is only good when hull downing, other than that the mobility and dpm sucked, that's how it's so well balanced
Let's ignore the other hull down tanks I guess xD
yea u just generally bad at this game
Yeah up them average damages a bit
That's alright, you'll finess it all at one point
i am going for the snowglobe, is it guarandeed a tank or 7500 gold? bc i saw a part of the amx firebird
Yes, either a tank or 7.5k gold
i dont hope for the smasher, its maybe a very very unbalanced tanka dn broken but i dont like it
what camo should i get for the kranvagn; nidhogg or nord?
Yay i got the FV215B!
STG, one of the most weirdest tanks in tier 8
trash you mean
210mm gun (not gold)
looks like a skinny Chrysler K
Oh and yeah, strawberry on top
Noice
Money well spend
Only 4 bucks
Thats 4 bucks you could've spend on French fries
anyways there is more better tanks
I’m quite sure there’s two ways.
First they will upgrade this trash, or they will put this tank in some ivents
Probably the 2nd option
2nd option will make the people that spent money to get it to be angry
Don't really think they care
Money is money to them
is the t49 a team dependent tank? if so then in my recent battles my teams sucked
For a second T7, should I get the Black Prince or the Tiger (P) first? At the moment those are my two options, and I kind of already have a fully upgraded IS
BP
https://youtu.be/WMA3PwzdSyI When this fantastic tank on WoT Blitz? 😍
WoT Bisonte C45 gameplay review, in this WoT Bisonte C45 review the Bisonte C45 WoT delivers 7.3k dmg in a great WoT Bisonte C45 Heavy Tank review. In this outstanding WoT Bisonte C45 gameplay the Tier 8 Italian Heavy Tank wins numerous medals including the Top Gun medal in an inspiring Bisonte C45 WoT review on the Berlin map. Early on in this ...
One question, why there is people using TOG II? This tank have no advantages!
if i am in a t49 and shoot an he shell right in the back of an emil 1 or 2, what are the chances of ammorack? still 27%?
tog is a meme
same as the kv-2, exept the kv-2 is good, slightly op imo
The chance of blowing up the ammunition of a tank is the same regardless where you hit, as long as your shell splashes or passes through the ammo-storage hitbox
Actually E10 is as real as E25, E50, E75 and E100
There was plans to re-use Hetzers and add a new 7,5mm cannon since that tank was already useless at that point of the war
Also there was a plan to add an hydraulic suspension system than would decrease the tank's height to 140cm
@full maple the point of TOG is damage sponje and super fast shot, tbh I like it a lot but it's the most boring gameplay if the whole wot Blitz...
Wait I thought it's e15
i though a direct he shell to the rack will deal more damage that the spash
that adds a new questoin, can a ammorack if i dont penetrate with he?
uh no
a few times it seemed that i damaged modules by spashing on the armor, in fact i set a few german tanks on fire by hitting the with an he (from kv-2) frontally
Yes, i agree. I have never saw a efficient player using that tank.
If u spashed that mean u pened a HE
ah,
@full maple I guess I'm an exemple of effecient player on TOG, 60% wr on it and good average damage
No, the E 10 was not a re-use of Hetzers. Quite contrarily, it was already in consideration when the Czechs became the order to design a armoured self-propelled gun based on the Pz. 38 (t). In fact, the name Hetzer for the Jagdpanzer 38 (t) came from a misunderstanding, because the designers who visited the Czechs to give them the orders to design their SPG were talking about another design project, the E 10 or “Hetzer”
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Ouch
The Wehrmacht planned to produce way more Jagdpanzer 38 (t)s towards the end of the war and thus finally decided to go with the then already-established doctrine of mass produced tanks that are ‘good enough’. That never really saw any fruition though because the war ended earlier than they thought
The STG is to OP, i have no chance to survive it ! 0 dmg i can't pen, i was in 52 sec. down. How ?!?!?
STG armor doesn't look that good, what tank were you using? @ionic sandal
Comet
Just 11k xp away from IS-7 any tips ?
You can even ammorack yourself by ramming something (because of dodgy hitboxes), but I know only two occasions when someone managed to damage his ammorack with a ram
Nah, I guess he was using a stock T43 lol @lethal kindle
Hull armor is pure garbage
I picked a random tank lol
The pen is pathetic on it, so it gets the point across
The armor is so garbage
Seems possible to sidescrape but not so effectively, part of the frontal hull would appear all the time you go ouside to shot
The side goes fully green if you show any more of the side than the screenshot above
It has literally 45mm side armour, that’s barely usable
90mm cannons wouldn't ricochete it because of two calliber rule, lol
And also, this calliber is common in tier 8
Ehm... the three caliber rule means that shells won’t ricochet and it has to be less than half the caliber for the two caliber rule to apply
(By the way, recently I had some doubts if the two caliber rule is actually implemented, but I am not sure)
The two caliber rule means extra normalisation
Why even. Use this when Chrysler is more useful lmao
Better gun, but yes.
2 caliber rule? i thought i was 3
Camo looks good
Well, at least the armor inspector considere the two calliber rule and I've seen it in action with my 268 @kindred wren
hmm
Aparently this extra normalization also helps to avoid ricochetes
It’s a T-34-3, with minimal differences...
PC two caliber rule does not prevent ricochets. Like I said, I’m not sure about the implementation of mechanics in Blitz
I think the STG is balanced after my first look through its stats. It’ll be a faster T-34-3 if you ask me
Oh and, I would drive it backwards in a lot of situations
Well, it seems a real passive tank, and also much faster than T-34-3
Base power/weight at 21.94
A rear turret is very inconvenient
Why does everyone have a problem with rear turrets? 😦
they are too happy
I have no issues with rear turreted tanks but it does become uncomfortable for hulldown tanks.
Now it does seem like a better tank
Why we have the STB-1 instead of the Type 74 instead 🤔
Bc after the type 61 came the stb historically
Which gun for 30.01 p is best? Tier 6 one with 145 pen and 7 secs loading or the one with higher pen but less alpha?
the 88
I'm looking for a 2nd tech tree to grind and I'm looking at Russia and U.S.
IS line gets a lot of praise though so I might eventually go with the Russian tree. Thoughts?
if ur going up the IS-7 line: (don’t) research the top gun on the KV-1S
If going up the IS-4 line: save free exp for the M-62 on the ST-1
Always choose soviet comrade
Since you seem to be newer, I highly recommend the is7 line. They aren't boringly slow, they have some workable armor, and they have great guns.
Thanks, comrade
The is4 line has really really painful stock grinds that gets completely fixed by going down the is7 line, so I highly recommend avoiding the is4 line at first
How the heck do I play as a heavium, I keep thinking I can take shots but realize my armor is kinda doodoo for it's tier.
Any tips on Tiger 1 except hull-down and side-scraping?
Use mobility to slaughter meds instead of getting involved in a heavy slugfest
K-91 worth picking up?
K91 is one of if not the best tier 9 heavies. Only problem is how ugly it looks
I think it looks pretty nice
Nah, it's super ugly
Is it possible for 10 of your tanks to disappear, last time I played this I had a lot of tanks now I only have bad tanks. The tanks I used to have is now a lot of money and I did not even get any credits for the tanks disappearing.
Why is playing on mobile so trash!??! I freaking bounced all my shots on tiger l for some reason and I got the maxed out gun
K-91 is hideous looking.
I agree.
It looks ugly af.
Why is mobile so hard to play to a single win
Mobile is easy if you never did anything else
If you don't like heaviums ohhh wait until you play with IS-8 (I actually like it tho)
*laughs in AMX 50s*
that’s not very nice, it’s just an AMX 40
(terrible attempt at a reference)
I don't know why I like it's appearance tbh lol
wtf did they nerf bc25 pen
No
what tanks would you guys get. either the AMX 50 100 or the t28 protype defender
50 100
either AMX 50 100 or t49
Both
only one
T49
T49 is the best choice between the two. The T49 is versatile, very mobile and has two options between a dependable solid 90mm gun and the derp 152mm gun. It's got a decently small profile and a good amount of hitpoints, too.
Wz120 or standard b.
50 100 and standard b
Huh they are totally diferent :/
I'm saying which is better because I'm about to pull trigger on one
Standard B
And it's not particularly close
I thought chinese meds were good?
Everything about them is good
Except the fact that only the t10 has somewhat usable gun depression
And cuz the meta is hulldown and or much gun depression
Yeah...
120 is hard to learn, but an amazing tank
Well got the standard b. Weird thing is it came fully unlocked? I didn't have to research anything. Is that normal
no
I had up to the emil 1 researched.. wtf happend I really don't understand
So just finished gathering credits for IS-7 any tips ? except hull down and reverse sidescrape ?
Intercept and bully mediums. Most heavies and all tds will laugh at the armor of the is7. Reverse sidescraping is not something that you go in with the intention to do. If you get flanked, sure, but do not take the time to turn the whole tank around just get into position.
I found wiggling rather effective in russian heavies
maybe on May 4th give everyone an AAT because Star Wars
Probably one of the better suggestions I've heard lately
should i rebuy E100 or Grille? i have enough money for either or
anyone got opinions on what to do?
Depends if you want to play a heavy or a td... the play styles are a tad different...
Are maus are the best???
Depending on what you “best” is
In terms of chonk it is definitely the best
Im on road in tech tree to maus what i mean in terms of chonks because i have VK 30.01 P and going through tiger porsche
Im tier 7 right now btw
All I can say is, I hope you like the sound of HEAT shells
Surprisingly enough prammo isn't very common at Tier 7, so the Tiger (P)'s armor still functions very well if you know how to wiggle the turret and hide the lower lower plate. Gun is great too, and its mobility isn't...horrible
(Mauschen/Maus)
Stg aim Ammo rack action
Is it worth it to free XP the 17-pounder when I research the Black Prince?
bonk
How to not suck at AMX M4 49?
Play it correctly? It’s a good tank
Simply make meds have a bad day
Is it? It gets penned by everything from the front and the gun isn't that accurate
Seems like a slow stock medium forced to dress like a heavy
@solid gate I'd prefer Lowe but if you get aggressive under cover you can really mess with enemies
nvm
How much gold is to enrich the t49?
Around 15k gold or lower. For perma enrich
Is there any case in which enriching is really worth it?
guys should i get the M60 from auction? i kinda need answers now because imma bout to get on a flight
Idk but its a pretty decent tank especially got a buff recently. Did we can know what coming for batch 2 and batch 3 auction tank?
Hello friends I have a Dilemma...
Mark 1 Defender or Chimera ?
Only if you really actively using thank tank, its better to buy premium tank in my opinion
No. 47% winrate across all players
Chimera, i have a 78% winrate with 50 battles and every other player of that tank has an average of 61% winrate. (9000 players, same as smasher) (defender has 55% I think.) the defender is also good its just harder. I think if you are good with autoloading hulldown then go defender. it is a better tank but much harder. chimera is if you want a hulldown snapshot sniper trading tank. Chimera also has really cool active abilities (take 20% less damage, and gain 40% accuracy, both for 15 seconds.) and passives (+5% hp and 3%) you can get the chimera from 1400 hp to 1600hp with upgrades, for instance.
I'm going to get the defender too because I'm a good autoloader player but I'm waiting until its cheaper in the auction
the defender has 4, 190 damage shots with 2 seconds inbetween rounds and a completley invincible turret (chimera has an almost invincible turret)
it just depends on if you like autoloaders or not tbh
BlitzStars presents live player statistics as well as historical player data for World of Tanks: Blitz.
nvm 44 battles 77% winrate
No overall is a big no, your gold will be more worth the spend if you gonna use it towards buying premium tanks rather than enriching your tech tree tank that'll eventually might get hit by a nerf and possibly power crept by newly added machines.
what should i get for m46 pattons after the gun? Turret for a bit of reload and hp or track to get bits better mobility?
how do I use T54 mod 1? Trying to generate more credits
Get Lowe instead. Ez
I’m not a whale, cannot afford to spend that much
Oof, I got the Lowe for free
yea I got this for free in 2016 or 2017 or something
In general I’m very confused as to how to play mediums, as I get frustrated from the maps
Can’t flank fast enough, and heavies/TDs just hide where there’s lots of buildings so I can’t circle of death them, and I don’t know how to support the heavies
Don’t support heavies unless otherwise you’d be alone, mediums are brawlers in high tier, and mainly play like slower lights, spot and use their guns when they’re free to. Avoid getting shot, and wait for the enemy to get distracted before exposing yourself to fire. In the T-54 Mod 1, you can bully tier 7s with your armor
how would a T-54 mod 1 deal with a heavy if there’s no one else to take care of heavies?
Make them miss, use cover and do pokey shenannigens
Snipe weakspots
How to KV-2
And how much battles for the Menacing offer?
@fickle hull poke when safe, see if HE can pen, if it can’t, load AP, if it still can’t, load pAP, if it still can’t, HE the bottom of the turret/ the deck. Then hide during your reload, conserve HP
You know, it’s better if you know what to shoot from the get go, but until you figured that out it doesn’t hurt to check for HE pens
Yeah, kinda what I meant, pre-load the right shell for each enemy
Alright, how much battles for the Menacing offer? Or is it not like the Warrior?
I have no idea, it’s kind of random and some don’t get the offer at all for some reason
Guys AMX M4 49 or obj 252 u ?
i am the imposter among us
Bruh pz 3 is the only tonk who is not a collector in ur team
guys
I have 50 pounds at my disposal what should I buy?(50 pounds translates to 19,500 gold)
@placid lagoon can you buy the 20k gold crate? If so, do it
@lyric copper what is in the 20k gold crate?
@placid lagoon 20 thousand gold, more than enough to get a tank at the auction, or save for next year
nice
how much is it?
And what should i do with the gold because i dont know what to buy in the auction
£20 GBP
should i get the M60?
it’s just been buffed, but I’d rather wait and see if the Chieftain Mk.6 will be coming or not
yea true
guys I found out i can get 36000 gold with 53 pounds using all the discounts i can find (what should i get in auction with this crazy amount of gold?)
I’d wait it out imo
its an insane amount of gold though imagine what i could get in auction?
@placid lagoon defender mark 1 is pretty good but it would be wiser to wait for it to come in store, it won't be 10k gold for tier 8 prem
i would say buy which one appears most appealing and wait for next batch of tanks in auction in few days
k thx
Very nice of WG to give us 950 gold for free
ikr
Amx54 player are Literally the worst
And yet they still win cuz you can't do anything against them when they are hulldown
counter their hulldown with your own
Yeah
This is big brain time
Ah yes a tier 10 version of T1 heavy
What do i should buy Jagdpanther II or Rhm-Borsig Waffenträger auf Hetzer?
but both, both are fun in their own ways
what to buy in auction?
E 75 ts vs tiger 2. On paper which is better? I feel like tiger 2 always has better games but e 75 isn't bad it feels similar
ah yes compare a tier 8 to a tier 9
Hmmmm... y’all got any advice for the Black Prince? I’ve unlocked the 17-pounder and got the upgraded engine from the Cromwell, but 75% crew and no equipment certainly stings...
E 75 TS is teir 8 soo? Wtf you talking bout
They read it as E75
Yeah right, Rhm sniping and Jagdpanther sniping from close
@acoustic ginkgo a bit more
yes sir @candid harbor
like how long ?
9hours 32mins from your screenshot
i mean a day more or 2 days more ?
wait for about 9 hours for its price to drop lower
t 28 defender and i s 3 denfender is better (in your opion) @candid harbor
I think defender mk1 is better, it has got mobility, armor, view range, flexibility and accuracy over the other 2 @acoustic ginkgo
i know but just ask
in comparison between is3d and t28 defender, I think is3d is better, due to better mobility and stronger turret
but accuracy is awful on is3d
idk you can check the wikia
is 3 : https://asia.wotblitz.com/en/encyclopedia/vehicles/ussr/R115_IS-3_auto/
t28: https://asia.wotblitz.com/en/encyclopedia/vehicles/usa/A68_T28D/
mk 1 : https://asia.wotblitz.com/en/encyclopedia/vehicles/uk/GB_Centurion_MkDF/
In 1956–1957, students of Military Armored Forces Academy designed their diploma project: installing the loading mechanisms on the IS-3 and T-10 heavy tanks. The version for the IS-3 featured a two-row loading mechanism. Its crew was cut down to tree members: a commander, gunner, and driver. According to the official data, this tank was only a p...
The T28 Defender started life as a secret project for a special purpose combat vehicle, based on the T28 Prototype. This TD has received reinforced armor, an experimental 3-shell autoloading railgun and a super-secret engine, boasting increased power.
This British tank was built in great secrecy in the laboratories of a very well-known secret intelligence service. For the good of the Kingdom, the Defender Mk. 1 accomplishes the most complex and sensitive missions that are far from supply bases and with no communications or reinforcements. Black armor, an electric engine several centuries ahea...
it is not too awfull
One thing that should be pinned into his channel is how wrong people opinions can be about tanks