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solid gate
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6000 damages and 7kill at t6

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@frozen raptor gg

plain wagon
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Is it worth it to get the tier X gun for m103?

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Cuz the IX gun seems pretty decent

lime rapids
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lol

hollow moth
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@plain wagon yep, get the Tier 10 gun

misty blaze
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i wish there is a tier 1 gun for a tier 10 like the patton tier 5 gun last time

plucky summit
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@solid gate E3 has a small, so mostly negligible, 60mm-80mm weakspot on the front

spark basin
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gl hitting that lol

wise moth
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I have great luck with hitting that. Usually if I see a hulldown E3, I let off a shot towards that, which hits more often than it should, and then I go find something better to do lol

gentle wasp
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I can't say I have ever hit that. Time to spam HE at hulldown E3s. For science!

drifting vapor
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wise moth
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It deserved more TBH

next solstice
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That happens when the 113 gets ap shells

spark basin
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its gonna turn slower than a superheavy now

solid gate
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That’s one tier 8 heavy down more to go

lapis eagle
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ah yes now ruin the tiger 2 a bit the armor is too op

gentle wasp
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the 2 key exists

soft bridge
nimble kraken
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add swedish lights

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like the strf 90 as a tier x

solid gate
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No

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yes

broken tide
tired meadow
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we need a special camo for FV4005

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maybe like the mod anggael has on his

kindred wren
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Why did you not filter out the tanks that are already in the game?

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Which would be like... 75%

solid gate
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maybe it was a hjoke idk

kindred wren
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Maybe I will laugh when I understand it

tulip sail
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@solid gate most of those are already in game

solid gate
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is the dracula good?

kindred wren
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Good? Yes. Op? Not anymore

tulip sail
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Its good but not nearly what it used to be its not even in the top 5 anymore

solid gate
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whats the top 5?

kindred wren
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Well, depends on who you ask

solid gate
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the general top 5

tulip sail
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Id say in no order
Anni
Smasher
T29
Bp
And I had a blast with the chi to spg

solid gate
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thx

humble storm
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K one thing. This is a ridiculous question that I want you all to answer straight. Yes/No.
Is T49 A/Was T49 A balanced?

tepid geyser
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Bruh no way it was balanced

humble storm
plucky summit
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T-2020 balanced.

acoustic raptor
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Does the B1 have preferential match-making?

plucky summit
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@acoustic raptor no, the Pz. B2 does

solid gate
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@humble storm No. The T49 A was not balanced because it was A) one tier lower than the actual T49, meaning you could meet tier 6 tanks while you had 780 alpha with HE to slap them with, and B) you have autoaimable missiles with infinite range that you could launch vertically and then autoaim onto a target for an essentially guaranteed direct hit to the roof armor, similar to how an IRL Javelin anti tank missile works

acoustic raptor
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the Pz. B2 does
What's Pz. B2? 😄

wise moth
solid gate
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@wise moth did they ever fix that one tank that would break the game for tier 3?

lyric oriole
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@solid gate You mean Pz. 38H? Yeah

acoustic raptor
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Thx @wise moth !

solid gate
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I'm terrified and both super happy to see how extensive the T-2020 buff is, becuase it really needs an excessive one for how much WG wants us to pay for it.

plucky summit
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@lyric oriole not sure if this was a joke, not Pz. II J?

lyric oriole
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@plucky summit Pz. 38 H literally broke the game a few updates ago

hollow notch
lyric oriole
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Tanks got stuck in the game after it ended and PZ 38 H would dump it's ammo rendering the gun useless

plucky summit
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Oh really?

W a ck

lyric oriole
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Yeah

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Pretty sure I was the one to discover that, not 100% sure but I never saw anyone else notice it until I brought it to light

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Only reason tried playing it was because the anniversary was then

plucky summit
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Wait so the gun would shoot out all the ammo or sumn when the game ended?

lyric oriole
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No, the ammo would be gone

hollow notch
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You don't need ammo, just ram

lyric oriole
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Also it wouldn't give credits or exp at the end of the battle

plucky summit
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So it was just a body shield and it would make the game last forever?

lyric oriole
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Pretty much

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It would break free eventually but tanks Could get stuck for up to 20 minutes

plucky summit
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@jagged fox you're boutta be banned bro, but that vid was hilarious

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Y u p

solid gate
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@hollow notch light??? That thing deserves a good extra 20mm of frontal armor to at least somewhat match the IS5, since it's an "upgraded" version of it.

plucky summit
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It's not, but the T-2020 could perform fine with a good driver

hollow notch
lyric flume
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How to play obj 268 just got it

solid gate
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The T-2020 is tunneled becuase people know it's a stupid hit point pool that cant bounce unless you hit the tracks.

plucky summit
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Doesn't stop me from 2.1k avg dmg >:L

solid gate
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I can do that in it, but it's hard to when every team wants to yolo into you becuase they know you cant bounce.

plucky summit
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Then they're actually pulling tourney strats, and should win over casual gameplay

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@lyric oriole we got another

lyric oriole
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.ban @obsidian ravine spam

calm drumBOT
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dynoError I can't find user @obsidian ravine.

plucky summit
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speedrun leaver

calm drumBOT
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dynoSuccess Mee6#3605 was banned

lyric oriole
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You can run

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But you can't run

gentle wasp
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ah yes

lyric oriole
hollow notch
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What is the point of doing things that gets you instantly banned?

plucky summit
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this is great, free YT content for WG

solid gate
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Lol imagine spamming a pixel tank game discord server a video of cow belly memes.

covert dagger
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Arl needs a nerf.

glass relic
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WG didn't give me honeymoon phase on my Emil II and now because of it I hated the tank, because of it's lack luster DPM and sluggishness.

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Or maybe i do get the phase but instead the nub i was supposed to clap, is in my team and need a hard carry on this tank.

candid harbor
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having to grind stock tanks against top tiers has left me to conclusion that honeymoon is quite useless

lyric flume
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How to be pro with the object two hundred sixty eight

stone echo
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How to be pro with the object two hundred sixty eight
@lyric flume
Step 1 : try to spell it as obj. 268
😉

median tree
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Whats better? Su76 or marder 2? Im tryna restore one of them

lyric flume
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@candid harbor type

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@stone echo your not helping idiot

halcyon galleon
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camp
snipe
help your teammates
its literally that simple

candid harbor
# lyric flume How to be pro with the object two hundred sixty eight

try to play it at medium range (hulldown) and spank tanks every time you reload, gun is stoopid accurate even when you rocking back and forth

so strats to play at pubby games
at start, set up early ambush against meds or heabies (if map allows it, if it doesn't slack at back a bit)
at mid game, if most enemies are spotted and you don't have shots on them then reposition yourself to different position, but if you have shots on them then shoot (do not rush frontline).
you got best camo rating a td can have at tier x, so use bush and 15+m trick to be invisible while spanking tanks.
at end game, rush and kill low hp tanks like your life depends on it (if ally team haven't been completely obliterated), or hold your ground at medium range

lyric flume
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@candid harbor bro thank you

candid harbor
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gun is quite accurate to be at long range but shell speed is quite slow, so try not to be at long range sniping moving targets

lyric flume
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Ok

stone echo
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@stone echo your not helping idiot
@lyric flume lmao someone got roasted, chill dude

lyric flume
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@stone echo dont talk to me again

nimble vessel
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drac or helsing

tight raven
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Depends are your play style, Drac for your speed and ramming needs, Helsing for troll armor and double shot gun (2nd shot is always less accurate)

rustic tulip
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Drac is love, drac is life

nimble vessel
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I prefer drac two face, my fav out of my tier 7 hybrid nation tanks

unique dragon
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Please Move Bulldog Ammo rack It’s Easy to do And Hard To grind Please Fix Upgrade the armor To 56 Mm So players Don’t Die And Lose about 22k Credits For doing 1k damage And Here’s the ammo rack Now Why isn’t it Not ram Proof. Needs to be In Turret With 56mm armor All around the body Thanks for Reading 🙂 It needs a buff like bad on the armor

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rustic tulip
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Why did you ping frost lol

unique dragon
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Idk

meager coral
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Don’t ping the mods they have literally no control over what is implemented in the game

unique dragon
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Oop

calm inlet
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😠

cedar aspen
unique dragon
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Heh Armor inspector

cedar aspen
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i inspected my Pz.III and found out the reason why i keep getting killed oof

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my ammo rack is my enemy's target

unique dragon
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Oof

cedar aspen
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engine+hit=gon

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ammo rack+hit=gon

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gun+hit=haha shell go boink

nocturne tiger
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Should I buy the IS-5?

tepid geyser
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If you're free to play, yes. If not, save the gold and get a better tank.

rocky sail
# unique dragon Please Move Bulldog Ammo rack It’s Easy to do And Hard To grind Please Fix Upgr...

Ok buddy, if u wanna get high damage and kills and credits I suggest u to play more often, don't yolo or do something dumb, stay with ur team, take every chance u have to shoot someone and run if thing gets sticky because ur a light use ur speed, and why in the world will u buff a lights amor, u want bulldog to be a med or what,? All lights have almost 0 amor but u have reload, speed, turn rate, acracy, way better then other types of tanks.

I see people with 55-64 wr in bulldog , they say it isn't a sht tank they say itsa rly good tank and that they have no problem playing it, so it has 0 amor, all lights has 0 amor haven't u seen? But anyways just stay with ur team, play more often with it and run, shoot anytime when u can, ur a light remember that.

stoic rose
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Maybe you have some recomendations for this tank guys?

pliant viper
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Best game I ever played

vestal verge
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When is the Polish nation ??

solid gate
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@stoic rose
Just keep hulldown even if you know you're going to die.

glass relic
candid harbor
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@glass relic as if that ever going to happen

iron galleon
iron galleon
vestal verge
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I know

candid harbor
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pta is poop
pta really stands for poop tank for real

dense torrent
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then FT in WZ-Series FT stands for Fake Tank

thick trout
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And the B in the Maus stands for Balanced

fast compass
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U in 252u stands for underpowered

glass relic
candid harbor
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there is hope, for even potatoes

glass relic
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Do the mating calls, and take out your stock su-152

candid harbor
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thank you O wise one, I go implement this knowledge

chrome fog
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which gun is better on the vk 36.01
the 8.8 or the other one

wise moth
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8,8cm

solid gate
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Guys, what should I buy with almost 11K of gold? SU130PM, AMX M4 49 or Chimera Phantom?

static harness
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Depends on your playstyle

solid gate
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What would you recommend?

tulip edge
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Out of those three, I would likely get the chimera

static harness
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Probably Amx m4 49 for me
(My French bias is strong so yeah)

balmy wagon
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I would take chimera, high alpha, best for trading against other meds

cinder bluff
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t49 needs ap

static harness
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Why?

amber token
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@balmy wagon also more hp than other med tanks

gentle wasp
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it's rather mediocre as far as HP, and using sandbags only gets you slightly above average while sacrificing overall performance.

balmy wagon
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Just use big sandbags and hp equipment, 1484 hp is enough, rest of provisions is big food and small food

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Although chimera is almost completely dead against annihilator

radiant coral
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Chimera has a big gun but it’s slow for me....

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The reload is slow, but the Armor quite well

glass relic
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It's worth the alpha and profile.

balmy wagon
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It's not slow on straight move, it can goes 40-50 km/h i think, bad thing it's traverse speed is a meme

radiant coral
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True, depends also on your playstyle

glass relic
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Playstyle is the key, but if you want full enjoyment over the game, learn to have all role Playstyle, it'll make you become a jack of all trades and can enjoy every good premiums making them become obnoxious for your enemy to deal with.

radiant coral
clear otter
loud jacinth
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can someone help me get close to m103

lyric oriole
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Wdym

loud jacinth
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reshearch it i have 135k xp on my t32

hushed shadow
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Are there any premium TDs at tier 9?

loud jacinth
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i want aleast 150k and then ill doo the rest

lyric oriole
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No

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@loud jacinth you want 150k

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What are you implying

loud jacinth
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@lyric oriole yea

hushed shadow
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‘Yes’ 😂

lyric oriole
hushed shadow
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He wants help grinding the tank it seems, maybe someone grinds for him?

gentle wasp
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big brain

hollow notch
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I still have 4 lines left to finish. Gotta do my own grinding first

lyric oriole
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If that's the case that's not allowed @loud jacinth bannable potentially

loud jacinth
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wdym i can be banned from needing help that kinda sucks .-.

lyric oriole
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How many other people have done it themselves? Raise your hand if you have

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✋

loud jacinth
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needing help = ban potential got it :/

hollow notch
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@lyric oriole just buy free xp
No grinds needed

hushed shadow
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I’ve ground tanks for myself before

lyric oriole
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It's also researching a tier 9, if you can't get through this I can't imagine how you'll be with a tier 10 grind

gentle wasp
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@loud jacinth you can't share accounts and have other people grinding for you if that's what you're asking for

hushed shadow
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Account sharing isn’t allowed. WG won’t be responsible if you mess up with sharing your login

loud jacinth
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thats not what im asking for

lyric oriole
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"and I'll do the rest myself"

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Seems like it is

hushed shadow
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You wanted a platoon?

loud jacinth
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im saying i need a platoon tm8 and help me win battles and etc :/

lyric oriole
loud jacinth
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my wr is like 45% and thats why people dont platoon with me

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I dont play competitive I just play for fun

lyric oriole
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I don't play competitive either

gentle wasp
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low average tier gang

loud jacinth
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nvm....

candid harbor
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spark basin
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fair and balanced yes

drifting vapor
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calm drumBOT
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dynoSuccess Strange#9857 has been warned.

brave night
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F

upper jolt
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Lul 🤡. Anyways. The performance of this tank on PC wot is below average

graceful whale
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How is the Chimera's accuracy?

gentle wasp
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it's not bad for a 127mm but it's definitely not good. low shell velo as well.

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done

graceful whale
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I'm really really I dunno like really struggling with my Decision right now
I main Hype 59, T-54, T-62A
Ive bought T54E2 Shark and 252 (VERY good tanks) but I don't play em anymore coz it's not my style
I play my IS 6 and IS 3D more than the those two
I really want opinions on the Chimera, really looking for a Prem Med I can truly enjoy as much as HYPE 59

gentle wasp
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I'm not the biggest fan of it but it is unique and fairly enjoyable.

tulip sail
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Its definitely a different tank than the 59 but its good and pretty fun to play

graceful whale
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Hmmm
I'll sit on it for a few days then make my choice
How long is it in the store?

brave night
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Prob a well or 2

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Week*

feral canopy
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How should I be using medium tanks?

smoky hedge
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depends on what theyre good at. If its slow, armored, and powerful, like a Chimera, then play support because youll be flanked and spanked by speedier tanks.

if its fast and nimble, like a Spaghetto, then you can involve yourself in more wild plays like hit and runs

feral canopy
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Ah i see. Thanks 😊

shell summit
wise moth
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@shell summit They'll add it when/if they ever add the Soviet rear-turreted medium line

plucky summit
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STG already exists ._.

shell summit
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Not tech tree tho

plucky summit
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Yeah but they're getting warmer

shell summit
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It most likely won’t be added as it’s part of the K-91 line, and we already have that as a tier 9

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(At least that’s how it is on pc and console)

wise moth
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@shell summit WG will probably just rename the tier 10 med, or even the tier 9 heavy. Kinda like how they renamed T67, since it used to be T49 until the tier 8 light tank came out

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upper jolt
proven oasis
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Maus or Leo 1

wise moth
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Maus

proven oasis
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On both lines I already have the tier 7 vehicle

next solstice
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Do you want a meta tank with a low skill floor or a fun tank with a high skill floor

proven oasis
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Fun and high er

next solstice
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Leo1 then

proven oasis
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WR*

wise moth
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@proven oasis Well, for Maus vs. Leo 1, you can really only pick 1, winning or fun. Maus will win more, but Leo is more fun

proven oasis
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Wdym by meta

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I’m good at playing the Dracula

next solstice
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Meta as in more impactful in winning game. Dracula's what the Leo wishes it was in t10

proven oasis
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I already have stock SP I C stock so is the line fast and easy?

hollow belfry
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@next solstice no lol just no, testers arent pro's only

In fact i've seen maaaany v bad ones teehee

next solstice
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I'm well aware of that

hollow belfry
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But let's be real, from what we've seen so far the mle 54 is quite op lol

proven oasis
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Mle 54?

hollow belfry
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Amx m4 mle 54

proven oasis
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Ohh that thing big

next solstice
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at least its a bit more killable now

proven oasis
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The only thing I’m worried about is what line is the best to grind

proven oasis
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So Leopard 1 it is

strange thicket
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It depends
You can't carry as much in leopard 1
What are you looking for? A very good heavy that blocks tons of damage(when angled right) and has a lot of hp to trade? Or a Light tank that is fat enough to be an MT while acting like a TD? @proven oasis

nimble vessel
hollow moth
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Type 62 > T6 Dracula

brave night
hollow moth
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250mm pen HEAT, 300 damage HE, more DPM, better repais cost factor, better credit coefficient, slightly better precision, better camouflage (no camouflage decrease while in movement), better view range, smaller profile, etc...

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And the most important factor for your wallet, you don't need to buy loot boxes to get it

nimble vessel
hollow moth
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Actually Type 62 have better mobility tho, terrain resistance and transverse speed are superior

nimble vessel
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I still prefer the drac

hollow moth
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There you got a point, but on the "to hit more on-the-move shots" and mobility are actually points on Type 62, instead of drac

nimble vessel
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people overall perform better in the drac than in the type 62, higher average damage and winrate

hollow moth
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Yep that's a point of drac

solid gate
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It’s because drac has the sides entirely covered from he and absorbed by tracks neither are no longer as strong as they used to be

nimble vessel
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I have 239 battles in my type 62
winrate 64.85%
dmg per battle 1412
kills per battle 1
3 M badges

hollow moth
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None asked about your stats, lmao

nimble vessel
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just saying, I love the type 62, but although I only have 88 battles in the drac I still feel like drac suits me better (got the drac 2 months ago)

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maybe you will llike the drac when you get it @hollow moth

hollow moth
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Oh no, I won't get it because I don't work with loot boxes if they cost something

nimble vessel
hollow moth
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Auction tanks are overpriced

nimble vessel
hollow moth
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Nah, for 15k I would buy a cheap T10, wasn't 121B for 12,5k?

nimble vessel
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I have been wanting the drac like 2 years ago, finally got it

strange thicket
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15k gold for a tier7 ? Hell no
You could buy the 252u for 5k gold, drac doesn't deserve that amount of gold
You are better off with lttp

nimble vessel
hollow moth
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Yeah but stills a T10 that can actual give some credits, drac is a T7 and can find Smasher/Anni@nimble vessel

nimble vessel
hollow moth
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Nope, neither a tier 7 tank

nimble vessel
hollow moth
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Helsing cuz of Boom-Boom gun, ik Drac is better

nimble vessel
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what tanks do you want

plain wagon
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Should I keep m103?

nimble vessel
plain wagon
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Yes

hollow moth
# nimble vessel what tanks do you want

In an actual top 5 it would be

  • Helsing
  • Fury (ik it's basically a M4A3E8 with skin, but I actually like the movie)
  • Obj 252U
  • Jagdtiger 8,8 (only cuz it's op lmao)
  • Badger
nimble vessel
hollow moth
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Ik, same goes for Loza's, but at least the movie is good

nimble vessel
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idk why the price was that high

halcyon galleon
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fury is expensive just like the movie

hollow moth
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Cuz it's very rare and some people theorize that the authoral rights (aka copyright) make it's price even bigger

pseudo matrix
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how is it rare lol, was sold for 5$ back in 2015

hollow moth
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2015*

Not much people played since that age

leaden trench
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welp Emil 2 was bad as garbage now its just a peck of dust
:(

hollow notch
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The furry isn't that special. We have an e8, loza, jackson(rip), and now the rudolph(the flat out better version), and the Sherman's have always suffered against higher tiers. Heavy buffs and new tanks introduced have Honda killed it

lilac stump
solid gate
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It’s an old joke about the name of the tank dont know what prompted that reaction out of you

hollow notch
candid harbor
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250 gold base pen on tier 7 light is very nice

wise moth
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I've had Type 62 since release, and I've always wanted to like it, but I just cannot for the life of me make it work

hollow notch
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Really positive? Interesting

Git gud nub

echo knot
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give me a good things about chinese tanks

glass relic
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Fast aim time, and low amount of dispersion for a 122mm gun's on their meds, while also having the best DPM heavy at T10. And also enjoyable TD from T6-8 rest at T9/10 are kinda meh since there are things that can do their job better.

echo knot
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i see.
thanks, mate.

next solstice
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dpm, overall speed, great turret armor

wise moth
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@hollow notch Yeah, I'm terrible in single shooter lights and similar tanks. I can only play paper autoloaders

nocturne sage
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It’s funny how the amx m4 45 is supposed the French cumulation of German tank designing but it seems to only take the parts of it. I hate the tank. Nothings good except it’s gun but even then it has a long aim time and it’s dispersion is wack. It’s is horrible and I though getting the tracks would make it faster as it did on the arl but nope it’s still slower than evolution.

candid harbor
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it is undoubtedly worst french tank@nocturne sage

wise moth
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@candid harbor AMX AC 46 would like to have a word with you

candid harbor
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ahh, forgot about that one it is that bad

nocturne sage
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Why is it even still here. Wg should have removed it in 5.5 (is joke)

wise moth
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See, there's a logical fix to it too, they should just give it an autoloading version of the DCA 45. Then it'll be more compatible with the rest of the line, and a decent tank to boot

candid harbor
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xd @nocturne sage
jokes are funnier when people jump to conclusion without context

nocturne sage
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They are but it’s annoying seeing the chaos that follows. I like chaos but sometimes it’s just ew. Also the max ac 46 doesn’t seem too bad. It has higher damage and better pen

candid harbor
wise moth
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@nocturne sage O, it's way worse in reality than it is on paper. It is probably the single worst tank experience I have had above tier 5, other than maybe the T28 protoype.

The absolutely massive profile is easily penned by almost anything, the gun is incredibly troll, it's not that fast, and overall was a massively frustrating tank

And this is coming from the guy that kinda liked the ARL V39 too

nocturne sage
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It’s seems to be a trend that t7 tanks are just the worst in most lines

candid harbor
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[mention not long ago unnecessarily buffed german tanks]

solid gate
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(T29)

wise moth
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Oh yeah, and I did forget to mention that the last time I played the AC 46 was before the buffs to T29, before Smasher, before T25AT/JPanther buffs, and before heavy tank HP buffs

I bet nowadays the AC 46 is even worse than I remember

nocturne sage
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Seems whenever WG has some decent buffs or nerfs it’s alway 1 step forward 2 steps back

feral canopy
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I know I’m new at this but at tier 4, the M7 is just frustrating

soft bridge
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how do you even use a vk 30 01 d, gotta get panther and i have nearly 0 free exp

low rampart
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Play it like a traditional medium tank, move quickly, peek to shoot and angle the tank in order to bounce shots. It has a good armor and mobility.

solid gate
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Welp how do i make the helsing stop missing its second shot

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Quicker aim time?

low rampart
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If you're shooting at a moving tank, aim a bit in front of the target, in one end of the tank, so the second shot shoots the other end of the tank instead of missing.

Also preferably shoot at the sides where the chance of both shots missing is low, there has to be a lot of room to penetrate, you can't shoot at a small spot because only your first shot will hit it.

The upside of that is you might miss the first shot and then the second randomly might penetrate depending on your luck.

minor mica
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Say for the kranvagan should I go for the reduced reload or more pen?

candid harbor
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you mean the equipment? vent or calibrated shells?

go for calibrated shells

hollow moth
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374mm HEAT pen is pretty useful in frontline, mostly when your DPM is low and every shot counts

minor mica
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Alr

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Thanks for the advice

minor mica
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Also can a calibrated e100 and vk72 with gold shells butter the turret of a kranvagn ?

candid harbor
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@minor mica lemme check

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@minor mica heavies can not penetrate front turret armor of kravagn (when hulldown) but they can attempt to shoot cupola

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@minor mica e100 can attempt to hit this when kranvagn player will raise gun to hide cupola
but chance of penetration with calibrated heat shell is 18%

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ember quartz
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Chimera or Amx mle49 🤔

solid gate
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Chimera, i'd say

minor mica
candid harbor
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one minute@minor mica

minor mica
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I clearly suck at it if it can

candid harbor
minor mica
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Well then

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I might need to reflect on the decisions that I made today

candid harbor
minor mica
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Yea tho I’m trash if I can’t use the turret correctly

candid harbor
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i would just shoot with he, if I really have to shoot hull down kranvagn, or shoot hull (if you can see it)

minor mica
candid harbor
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there is an app called armor inspector, you can check armor stats over there but it costs a bit to check higher tiers
if you arent willing to pay then you can use my armor calculator but you need python interpreter to run it

it only works for tier 9 to 10 atm

minor mica
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I’ve used armor inspector before but thanks for the armor cal

candid harbor
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wink

brazen tangle
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i just got the arl44 and its hella slow, should i do the motor modules first which increase the speed alot or go straight for the big gun module first?

candid harbor
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turret, motor, gun, tracks
or go for gun
tank turns like ship anyway

brazen tangle
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i did turret already

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would probably go gun and then motor.... or maybe viceversa

candid harbor
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go gun

brazen tangle
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aight then

lone mason
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@brazen tangle slow but decent front armor and good upgraded gun I did engine last.

glass relic
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225mm pen at T6 butchers everything

brazen tangle
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the two last gun mods are 225dmg and 212 pen, and the other is 310dmg and 165 pen

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less dmg more pen or more dmg less pen?

glass relic
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The 90mm DCA 45 gun is better like, WAY better than the 105mm gun because it can pen and butcher everyone.

brazen tangle
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interesting huh, alright thanks for all the advices

pliant viper
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Wasn't the new update supposed to come today?

candid harbor
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yea

minor mica
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Say what time is it for you guys?

candid harbor
minor mica
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huh

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Guess I’ll try getting back on again without my dumb WiFi

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Well tells me that maintenance is still going guess I’ll wait

obsidian maple
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They need to make the t28 how it is in real life

zenith mulch
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See detailed stats. Premium pen and damage

solid gate
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Standard shell has always been 560 it never was buffed

regal geyser
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opinion on the tiger everyone?

edgy minnow
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It's a tiger.

regal geyser
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make a camouflage that actually looks like a tiger

candid harbor
glass relic
zenith mulch
glass relic
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I also tried it and failed.

candid harbor
storm robin
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For the Vk 30.01 P, should I free XP the engines or turret first? I’ve already got the 88mm gun, fyi

candid harbor
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engine first

median tree
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Is churchill 1 better than churchill 3?

viral falcon
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It is in almost every way other than HP and a bit side armour.

median tree
balmy wagon
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I can't feel batchat buff, it's little bit nicer but.... Yeah

solid gate
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Lmao

hollow notch
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Churchill 3 is the only tank in the game with an xp coefficient

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So you can seal club xp grindathons and events that give multipliers for lower tiered tanks.

glass relic
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XP coefficient ? What's dis? Never heard of it so this might be a juicy info for me.

solid gate
flat yarrow
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Hey so I was just trying to play with my jpanther II and after about 15 seconds of being in queue it would kick me back to the garage anything I can do about it?

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NVM I just got in

ripe helm
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This cant just be me but is anyone being kicked out of queue

glad tundra
orchid cove
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Please add artillery, it would make the game more strategic.

upper jolt
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Hell no. Artillery wouldn't work. The maps are too small.

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Heck**

glass relic
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Well surely a missile that can become an artificial artillery exist, and now we're cheering they're gone from normal random battle.

stone echo
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Please add artillery, it would make the game more strategic.
@orchid cove In ur dreams buddy, in ur dreams

orchid cove
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Sigh

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What about a kill cam?

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World of tanks is not world of tanks without artillery.

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Artillery is a type of tank

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Also I think they could have some shell drop

upper jolt
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This isn't world of tanks. This is a variation of it. If you want arty you gotta play the world of tanks. Not blitz

orchid cove
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Ok

brisk jacinth
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Got the exclusive sheridan he seems so nice

solid gate
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@orchid cove artillery pieces are not classified as tanks, hence the name "SPG" or Self Propelled Gun

glass relic
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Then there's this SPAAG, and you could call this as an anti air tank.

stone echo
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World of tanks is not world of tanks without artillery.
@orchid cove well this is not WoT that u know, u can't just add that artilery mechanics here due to the map's size. So no, if u want SPG u can play WoT, not WoTB

glass relic
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WoTB is a testing ground for WoTPC new mechanics n such, for the great example helsing as the double barrel tank that pretty much took years for WG to put the mechanics on PC, which racks the playerbase getting more interesting options.

pliant viper
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Someone pls tell me how to avoid being butchered by 183's

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T9 and T10 I rarely see people even in the open,and when they go,they get blown to hell

static harness
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That is t10 nowadays
Move and die

hollow belfry
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Lol, just lol.... @pliant viper @static harness

pliant viper
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Lol an stb was in my team,I got targeted by two fv183(in my Sheridan),stb came in front of me at the perfect time and got instakilled

spark basin
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get down mr president

pliant viper
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Lol

lyric flume
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Is the vk 30.0.1 good

pliant viper
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30.01p or 30.01D

lyric flume
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P @pliant viper

crystal hare
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3001D is lit

gentle wasp
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reee

crystal hare
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But I’m the only one on this server that feels this way

wise moth
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reee

crystal hare
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FCM 50t is lit

lyric flume
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Is the vk 3001 p good??????

crystal hare
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I don’t like it but @gentle wasp does

lyric flume
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Ok

pliant viper
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Weak tank tbh

wise moth
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VK 30.01P is pretty solid

gentle wasp
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I’m a big fan, it’s fast, punchy, and good hulldown.

nocturne sage
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I think it’s random

lyric flume
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I just got it stock it is slow but blocks damage well

solid gate
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which gun is the best for tiger 2

wise moth
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The top 105 of course

solid gate
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Ok

upper jolt
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Chafee best gun the auto reloader?

gentle wasp
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no

wise moth
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Chaffee only has single shooter guns though, and the top one is clearly better

upper jolt
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Crap i was looking at the bulldog lol

gentle wasp
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in that case the single shot is also a lot better. T71 exists if you want an autoloader.

wise moth
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For M41, I use the single shooter. The autoloader just makes it a worse T71

upper jolt
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I was just curious. I play my pantera when I want an auto

hollow moth
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When I want an autoloading tank, I go for M4/FL10 burst or STRV 74A2, I kinda have Bat Chat 25 t too but I need to get better in french lights before play it more

radiant coral
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Well so does the KpfPz-70 (I just mix it up) also has 152 gun but the alpha is bad...

KpfPz 70 have an interesting alpha that WG could use

I mean, KV-2 is a tank that have a too big damage for it's tier, KpfPz 70 have a low damage for 152mm cannons, then why not swipe them?

KV-2 will still pretty derp and this buff is a deserved one for KpfPz

Why a bad idea? It's obvious that KV-2 have a too high alpha
@hollow moth
Well look, the KpfPz-70 is already a very good tank it fits to my playstyle so that’s why I love it so much lol and
Yea it’s annoying but where would be the sense to have now a KV-2 2.0 at Tier 9 also a premium don’t forget the Turret

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Anyways, it’s a good tank, for me it was worth it, sometimes you lose, well yes but it’s a decent tank I just like it

hollow moth
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Well, much people don't like KpfPz 70 and it's alpha isn't really normal for 152mm cannons, mostly when we are talking about post war tech. At high tiers, this calliber is already pretty common, I might don't own it and I can't argue much about buffs on Kpf, but I think the classic damage fits more

radiant coral
hollow moth
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You talk about KV-2? well, of course with less damage, other buffs would make sense to maintain an effective DPM, maybe reload or pen

radiant coral
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As I said decent tank

hollow moth
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Not bad, I'm not so good in tier 9 at all 😅

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The only tier 9 that I actually did well was Bat Chat 25 T AP

radiant coral
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I love tier 9 you can have more experience in high tier and learn more then just using only tier 8 or tier 10 but that’s my opinion

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So as you can (I was wrong lol outdated information) it has 16,64 second reload without any consumables and it’s alpha is 560, pen meh... I’m fine with it

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hollow moth
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I just find funny, WG thought that 560/480/640 is fine for a tier 9 heavy, but 640/540/940 is also fine for a tier 6 heavy

radiant coral
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🤷🏽‍♂️ I can live with that, it’s still a good credit maker

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Well still.... I have the feeling that Wargaming will make it rather or sooner to a Collector tank...they sold it this year like... 5 times...

hollow moth
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Yeah, last year I considered get KpfPz 70 instead of Löwe & E25 pack, but welp, my Löwe doesn't regret my choice

radiant coral
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Low Tier is because of "some tanks", which I won't mention by name, made it... crap, that’s the reason why I actually stopped this year completely to play (most of the time)

echo knot
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any advice to play Cent 7/1?
i do better with Cent 1, but not this one.

radiant coral
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I’d like to give you some advice but I don’t have, can’t help (sowwy)

solid gate
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Hello, I got a question. Which tier V tank is better? Pz. IV G or KV-1?

gentle wasp
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unless you plan on playing a lot of tier 5 in the future, the tank itself doesn't really matter, you just have to decide which line you want to go down, and what tier 10 you want in the endgame.

echo knot
solid gate
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@gentle wasp ok thank you

gentle wasp
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no problem man. I personally don't know much about the tanks themselves either, so I can't really help you there.

radiant coral
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All I can say is, that I’m surprised that many players are going now forward for it and play with it, I would go as well there someday but the speed... a little bit slow for a med traverse, idk though 🤷🏽‍♂️

crystal hare
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Tier V is worst tier imo

balmy wagon
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Bhak, tier 7 is dead already

zenith mulch
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Caernarvon thinks he can sidescrape against tiger ii.

hollow moth
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I don't think so, I guess the tiers 3-5 are well preserved from the broken premium spam @crystal hare

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I mean, you won't see a Smasher in your T1 heavy, unkess if you do a fail toon

crystal hare
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But all the players are skidoo

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Doo doo

hollow moth
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Yep, if you're a seal clubber then it's a better factor for the tier

crystal hare
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I rarely play t5, only if someone is tooning with me that low

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I like tiers 3 and 4, I sealclub there

hollow moth
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I stopped seal clubbing about 5 or 6 months ago, low tiers only stand in my garage if I need them to reseaech other tanks of if they are rare

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My Groß is an exemple, I haven't played with it since December 14 of 2019

brave night
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Just remove kpz weak points on the turret and give it the 640 and whatever the rest of the alphas are

radiant coral
brave night
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Well tbf kpz turret can be penned by pramo

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It would kind of be a worse e4 a tier down

radiant coral
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Sighs...

hollow moth
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Well, you'll need a 280mm pen AP, 290mm pen APCR or a 300mm AP to pen KpfPz turret if it's not using all the gun depression

Those numbers aren't that common betwen meds/lights @brave night

echo knot
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i can't pen that turret with my pramo

radiant coral
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Look, M8 I can understand why it "would” need some buff but... where is the sense then ? Make it op and that everyone wants to have it and spam with ? No thanks, I think that most people don’t want see that, I own it too, and I agree on that point, yes I love it, because it’s magnificent what it was in real life I’m still fascinated and get never enought of it, it was a big failure between West-German and the USA but without that tank those both nation, the Leopard 2 and the Abrams wouldn’t be or even exist (what I highly doubt) now as we know & see them

brave night
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Uhh what do you know why the Abrams and Leo were created

radiant coral
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Yes I mixed now history stuff too now but what I’m trying to say is, it’s a good tank and depends about the guy who does use it

hollow notch
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Alpha slamming mediums with a decent turret is not good enough I guess

brave night
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They were made because the Americans and Germans wanted differnt things

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Couldn’t decide on one thing except the 120mm

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But like I said make it a worse e4 a tier down

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I mean I rarely see anyone use it as a heavy

brave night
radiant coral
# brave night Uhh what do you know why the Abrams and Leo were created

To counter the T-62 or the T-64 u don’t know but the KpfPz-70 should replace the Patton and the Leopard, and yes I also know about those...
Agreed-Problems, like Germany wanted it to have more mobility, faster, auto-reload cannon (120mm which the prototypes had) and the Americans wanted to have more armor, the 152mm and the ability to shoot rockets, they never agreed about it and then there were also the Development costs etc.

brave night
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You do realize we still don’t have rockets Herman’s don’t have a auto loader

radiant coral
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As far as I know that, I might be also wrong correct me then, but I’m hella tired now it’s 1 am in the morning here and I’m going to bed now

brave night
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Or a 152mm and that was never the plan either

radiant coral
brave night
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Well the 152 maybe we did but bad idea either way

hollow notch
radiant coral
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However, it’s one of the most unique Tanks what i personally know and does fascinate me still

brave night
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Mmmhmmm

hollow notch
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Mmmmmhmmmmm

brave night
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Brings out my t55a

radiant coral
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What ?

hollow notch
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uses cover like anyone with a brain should do

brave night
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Rushes to use superior dpm

hollow notch
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Yea, rush me. As the rest of my team then farms you

brave night
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Out spots you

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(:

hollow notch
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Spotting is worthless stat in high tiers

brave night
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Fair enough

hollow notch
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Anything has the ability to spot for itself

brave night
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Also I think t55a is good

radiant coral
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Okay, this is going in a direction that I don't want to see, however. I wish you a nice day / evening / night. I'm out🙌🏽✌🏽

brave night
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Gn

hollow notch
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55a is a solid tank

brave night
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I don’t know why people bully it

hollow notch
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They don't bully it like they bully the kpz

brave night
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I don’t bully it I think it’s still solid

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I actually prefer t55a over t54

crystal hare
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T55 isn’t in game

brave night
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It is

hollow notch
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T55a, blitz nation, tier 9 medium tank

brave night
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^

brave gale
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Tortoise needs armor buff

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Such armored vehicle being easy pen by same tier and below

crystal hare
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I know t55a exists @brave night @hollow notch

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But u said t55

hollow notch
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Big brain time

crystal hare
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🧠7
🤯

devout tapir
#

Question: I have 587k Elite EXP in the 252U, and I need 78k Elite EXP and 788k credits to get to level 5 of robustness. Will it take the 78k Elite EXP from the 587K in the 252U? Or will it take 78k equally from all heavies I have??

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solid gate
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I guess for all

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Also i thinked the 128 mm in VK 100 would have a muzzle brake, but it don't have

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Also it's powerful

solid gate
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should i run gun rammer or calibrated shells on my is4

swift trout
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@solid gate rammer
It doesn't need more pen with its 380mm of heat pen

candid harbor
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@solid gate calibrated

swift trout
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@candid harbor why does it need more pen?

candid harbor
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to maximize chance of penetration
@swift trout

solid gate
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btw,can we get a panther m10 buff?maybe like armor buff becuz tech tree panther is better than panther m10

swift trout
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You can go through the frontal plate of a maus with prammo, pretty sure we don't need more pen

candid harbor
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@solid gate tech tree panther is a tier higher lel

hollow moth
swift trout
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I stand corrected

solid gate
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ive been having a bit of trouble penning maus lower plate with standard

gentle wasp
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@candid harbor uhh no it isn't

hollow moth
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340mm is already good, but I would run callibrated shells on IS-4@solid gate

solid gate
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ok i will be doing that

candid harbor
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@solid gate panther m10 is tier 6
panther i is tier 7

hollow moth
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No...

solid gate
candid harbor
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wait really?

solid gate
candid harbor
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lel wut
when did it leave tier 6 xD

hollow moth
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Idk if you would feel offended, but I'm laughing my kidneys off rn

gentle wasp
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yikes

candid harbor
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xd

swift trout
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F

solid gate
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Should I get the T-44-85????

gentle wasp
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no

solid gate
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Ok...

candid harbor
swift trout
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Ah right, the armour boost makes cali necessary

candid harbor
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yep yep

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without armor boost, rammer only has 27.27% chance of penetration
but with gold it is easy pen

swift trout
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I see.. I am sorry about my mistake and not considering the mauses equipment

half panther
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wish they would add a polish ht line 😦

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cough cough 60tp

candid harbor
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i think they did a spoiler few weeks back
about tier 9 polish tonk

half panther
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better not be a premium i just want a meaty line to grind

candid harbor
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i am afraid it would be prem :c

half panther
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😦

swift trout
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EU line ideas
Czech line
Polish med line
Italian heavy line

half panther
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i would love for a polish ht and mt line that would be so cool 🙂

swift trout
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Hell yeah, could also add some Czech Tds in

half panther
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exactly

solid gate
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Lol, it wouldnt be wargaming if they didnt leave the cool tanks for prems only

half panther
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tru mhmm

upper jolt
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Anypne know why they gutted chinese meds rotation?

potent forum
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Make you grind other lines. Buy more garage slots..

candid harbor
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@upper jolt engine power was slightly increased, so hull traverse also got increased, to compensate for that their hull traverse was slightly reduced

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hull traverse has direct proportional relation to engine power, that is why hull traverse also gets boost when you use engine boost consumable

upper jolt
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Idk what patch notes you see but its all nerfs.... I don't see any engine power increase at all. Just traverse nerfs

candid harbor
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official site doesn't even say hull traverse was nuffed

gentle wasp
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we'll see when the blitzhangar patch notes come out

candid harbor
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yea

brave night
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They needed it bc they were high alpha meds and stg is coming

hushed shadow
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they didnt nerf em. Blitzhangar isnt from WG, so its only showing the Open Test stats, which are not always the final stats.

glass relic
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Which is the live server and giving you current live info and will surely change when WG decided to change it.

gentle wasp
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Blitzhangar even has a disclaimer saying the Open Test stats are subject to change and might not be completely accurate. Just wait for the full patch notes. Usually only takes a day or two.

river jacinth
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add carro veloce L/35 tankette

solid gate
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Nah

candid harbor
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yes pls, my inner weeb wants to fight later ww2 tanks in it

solid gate
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Buy SU101 or Rhm

candid harbor
#

rhm

neat nimbus
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should i buy the jag tiger 8.8 cm or wait for the auction while im grinding for the snowglobe (hope RNG gives me gold)

candid harbor
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i haven't play jag, haven't seen any of them to be imposing, so I would wait for something else

brazen tangle
#

Should I stick with grinding the heavy french tank or with the EU heavy tank line? (Although if i do EU idk if to keep going after emil 1 or switching to another one)

candid harbor
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if you are new to game then kranvagn line would be much easier for you, as it is armored, flexible and they aren't super duper slow
unlike french heavy line which at start is slow, flexible, then tier 7 is poopoopoo, tier 8 is fast, good gun, not flexible and no armor, tier 9 is similar to 8 but bit more fun and then tier x 50b, veri fast, guud gun, flexible and has bit of armor at front but paper everywhere else.

if you aren't new to game then go as per your preference, like mine are first speed, second gun, third looks, forth flexibility, fifith armor and at last camo.
@brazen tangle

neat nimbus
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i really think wargaming is doing 3d style camos just like wot pc

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solid gate
#

I tested the Rudolph reindeer tank cannot fly.

candid harbor
#

we got scammed

solid gate
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Yes its hack atack maybe

minor mica
#

Why not test that again on the 18th

river cradle
solid gate
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E 100 German tank is an anti-tank?

candid harbor
#

?

hollow moth
#

@river cradle well, Lycan have a broken feature (literraly a 1000mm+ plate around all the internal modules/crew) but the tank itself is so meh that none cares about

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It's just another average 122mm heavy

solid gate
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23 years ago I liked the Dune game series where you had different levels of tanks also; trike , devastator, ..house of harkonnen etc..

river cradle
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If you side scrape right it let's a lot of shells bounce

hollow moth
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Ok, so? @solid gate

Well, it happens with most of the heavies too, I'm not surprised @river cradle

river cradle
#

Right

solid gate
#

Someone talked about that fantacy tank tech tree before today..

azure patio
solid gate
#

I have ob.140

solid gate
ember bobcat
solid gate
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That’s just the feature internal modules can’t break

hollow moth
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Yep @ember bobcat

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Have you ever noticed why it's impossible to damage Lycan's crew or internal modules? That's because of the 1000mm+ plate inside it

solid gate
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Also lycans crew can be injured it’s the modules that can’t be damaged

nimble vessel
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yes the crew can be killed, modules except track and viewport nothing can be damaged

ember bobcat
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How, is it something inside it?

hollow moth
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I said before but seems that yoy didn't read... @ember bobcat

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There's a 1000mm+ thick plate around all internal modules

ember bobcat
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I saw that, I meant how was it found out. Can you see in some inspector app or something? Or did wg say something?

hollow moth
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Wg said in facebook if I'm not mistaken, but they didn't present it's data in armor inspector @ember bobcat

ember bobcat
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Oh ok

solid gate
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@ember bobcat it’s in one of the armor inspector websites I don’t remember which one

ember bobcat
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Oh ok ty👍🏽👍🏽

solid gate
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I like t-34-85

glass relic
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I like 111-1g ft out of all TDs that I've played.

solid gate
glass relic
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KV-5-152

spark basin
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it still would be a bad tank

civic terrace
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@glass relic an underrated beast

amber token
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looks cool

teal veldt
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When was it reworked?

solid gate
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I don't like France tank

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I like only amx on 5 tier

hollow moth
radiant coral
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Any device how to work with the E4 TD I just got it today and have no idea to use it

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Like equipment ?

rigid condor
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you don't. the T 30 is better in almost every way. I keep mine tho because it was my first teir 10.

wise moth
radiant coral
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Thanks

hollow notch
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@rigid condor t110e4 is still the best tier 10 td. Turretless tanks are trash

wise moth
hollow notch
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Oh yes.

But tds are seriously trash. If you want an assualt style td, an e100 does that job much better than any td.
If you want a sniper style td, the leo1 is gonna be a lot more useful

brave night
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Laughs in jageroo

solid gate
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Basically wanna have fun in a flexible TD pick 4005 and dont waste your time on E4

brave night
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Only problem with e100 is that you can pen turret with out pramo

hollow notch
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That's mostly false

gentle wasp
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that's only a problem if you play it like a heavy anyway

solid gate
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It looks like I'll get a T-44-85 as 2 chieftain boxes spammed 50 parts of it. Is it good?

brave night
gentle wasp
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that's why he said play it as an assault td and not a facehugging heavy

brave night
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tho if it’s at range or I don’t have accurate gun it’s hard to hit ¯_(ツ)_/¯

brave night
gentle wasp
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you gain some gun stats and lose a ton of flexibility and 750 HP. Not worth it.

brave night
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But you have a better well “turret”armor bigger dpm and alpha

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Plus if you take where your supposed too and your team is competent you wouldn’t be flanked

strange thicket
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It is basically turret and hp
Or big boy gun

gentle wasp
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The Jageroo "turret" is just as weak as the E100's, if not more. and again, the gun stats aren't worth the tradeoff of flexibility

solid gate
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Those features can’t help you when you can’t deal with something on your back or being permatracied

brave night
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Thing is it had a bigger gun manlet and e100 is easy to circle as well

gentle wasp
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It really isn't, the turret traverse is quite good for such a huge tank

brave night
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And you can always perma track and circle a e100 too negate that

solid gate
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E100 can still defend itself far more than the jg can so that’s irrelevant

brave night
solid gate
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A turrets a turret it doesn’t matter

brave night
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Mk

kindred wren
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Guns that can track the E100 in one shot don’t have the reload to perma track it, tanks that can keep it perma tracked don’t have the module damage to reliably track it with one shot

brave night
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Can you one shot a jageroo?

solid gate
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Only one that truly can permatrack e100 is the leopard 1 and it can lose the trading battle very easily

gentle wasp
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you don't have to track a Jageroo to circle it, that's the difference

brave night
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Ok

solid gate
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Idk about you but e100 can tank a max roll 183 hit and have enough health to remain the rest of the match meanwhile jg would sit on 400-600 hp remaining

brave night
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We all have opinions

gentle wasp
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that's not opinion, it's a fact.

solid gate
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Some are more wrong than others

kindred wren
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Lol, those last two comments

brave night
kindred wren
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Well, some say that the Jageru is better than the E100 and the others are correct 😛

gentle wasp
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lol

brave night
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Honestly if I’m just going to be called dumb I’m out

kindred wren
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I’m just joking mate, don’t take it serious

gentle wasp
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right now you're just wrong, but trending toward dumb

brave night
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I tried settling this without any of this

gentle wasp
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and here comes the victim card

brave night
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Just stop instigating ffs take a hint

graceful whale
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122mm or 152mm on SU 152?

brave night
gentle wasp
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calling someone a jerk because he disagrees seems like instigating to me. if anything, dog is the victim.

kindred wren
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I think the E100 is more versatile and quite frankly easier to play, but the Jg. Pz. E100 is still a capable tank tanks to its accurate gun with high alpha and enough armour to hold a corridor. So I won’t look down on anyone that likes the Jg E100 more, especially now when it’s stronger than ever because of the heavy meta (because it is great for fighting heavies)

graceful whale
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Hmmmm I should reseatch the 122 MMs tho right?
before moving onto ISU

brave night
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All I said is that we have different opinions and he says my opinion is wrong like why do you have to say that why couldn’t he leave it there

kindred wren
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@graceful whale Yeah, it’ll make your life a lot easier because you take some of the massive grind for the top modules of the ISU one tier lower

brave night
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I’m just going to leave before apparently I’m instigating

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Idk ISU feels weird whenever I play it

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Or is it just me

graceful whale
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IDK I dont normally Play TDs
Need tips on SU 152

kindred wren
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Use the 152 and just derp people in the face

brave night
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I go heavy side and nuke people with ap or heat

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It’s worthless on med/light side

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Also bc of the he you can bleed out hull down tanks

kindred wren
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Keep a bit of distance and you can make it work anywhere

brave night
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It’s more of a meme tank that anything

kindred wren
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Yeah, you are a proper support tank because of your high alpha and short reload, so you should let others do the tanking and spotting and just concentrate of pumping damage into the enemies

brave night
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You can get a 15 sec reload running cs

graceful whale
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I dunno man It seems sometimes I can have massive games then sometimes I dont and get steamrolled
I have played faster TDs like the Chinese T7 and SU 122-44

brave night
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Well that’s any tds problems if they aren’t assault tds

kindred wren
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That’s normal though. These tanks rely a lot more on the team than heavies for example, and your contribution in a battle can vary greatly. It takes a lot of overview and skill to know where and when you have to be somewhere in order to win the game

brave night
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^

clever magnet
kindred wren
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Keep it, the dust has to be collected somewhere after all

minor mica
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Say what should I put for the kranvagn more hp or +4% armor ?

gentle wasp
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HP

solid gate
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You can get upto 2.8k hp on kran

minor mica
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Yea I know just didn’t know if more armor was better

hollow notch
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Armor

brazen tangle
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Is kranvagn good?

wise moth
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Yes

solid gate
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Even having the lowest dpm?

gentle wasp
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sigh

wise moth
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Yeah, because Kranvagn is so incredibly easy to position. With the low hull profile, -8 gun depression, and strong turret, Kranvagn is a breeze to play, so much so that I spend more time thinking about how to maximize my DPM than I do about how to actually position thet ank

solid gate
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I see, I'll grind swedish heavies next then.

brave night
wise moth
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The autoreloader lets you play the DPM closer to maximum efficiency, but it's still really bad

brave night
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Yeah but the clip makes it better than it looks

hollow hill
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I’m thinking I picked the wrong line of Russian heavies, going for the IS-7. The IS-4
looks like a clear winner with its HEAT. Although I prefer not to use prammo, if I had to I would. Am I going to run into very many instances where I’ll wish I had changed lines? The IS-8 is researched, just waiting for me to stop spending coin 😂 .on everything else.

candid harbor
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@hollow hill is4 is better but I have two main complain about it, is slow and too survivable tank, which doesn't provide challenging gameplay

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is4 becomes very boring as your tank doesn't feel to give rewarding gameplay, you barely need to do much and you are kicking butt of enemy tanks

brave night
solid gate
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Kv4 isn't that bad.

brave night
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Your right it’s terrible

candid harbor
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kv 4 is nice
st 1 is poopoo

brave night
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St1 maxed out is nice

candid harbor
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i was complaining about max one

brave night
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._.

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It is smaller more reliable turret same level gun tier for tier and smaller lower plate

candid harbor
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I have issue with how mediocre hull armor profile is and how slow it turns

it even moves quite slow
for something not particularly armored on flat ground

kindred wren
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I have seen a lot of controversy around the KV-3, KV-4 and ST-I. I personally can’t confirm that the tanks are bad. I just think that they are misunderstood

candid harbor
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yea, except for st 1 being absolutely shiep every other heavy are quite good

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kv 4 being almost a tier 8 maus

hollow notch
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What? The st1 is a tier 9 t29.
It hull downs very well, actually has gun depression(for a soviet). Can sidescrape. Has a powerful gun.

I sure hope the thing is slow

kindred wren
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I actually think that the ST-I is fairly balanced, if not good. It’s just not a sidescraper, it’s more like a hull-down bastion that is very similar to the E75 is terms of accessibility

candid harbor
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unlike t29, hull is quite weak on st 1
it is slow and takes forever to turn

hollow notch
candid harbor
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yep, load ap on first one
and heat on second

hollow notch
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Walls and hills are very common. Find one (either works) and the tank is going to be basically invincible

candid harbor
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it takes forever to get there, st 1 is more boring to play than is4

solid gate
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It’s literally almost the same armor profile as the is4 except it’s turret is bigger and it’s slower (and has less pen

hollow notch
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@solid gate same gun last time I checked

candid harbor
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if i remember it right st 1 hull is weaker than is4

hollow notch
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Sides are basically the same, if not stronger tier for tier

candid harbor
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is4 front is 160mm
st1 is 140mm

hollow notch
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St1 sees tier 8s
Is4 doesn't

candid harbor
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cuz is 4 seal clubs tier x and 9s

hollow notch
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And that is not a good thing(balance wise)

candid harbor
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it is fine, just too boring for me

kindred wren
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The hulls used to be very similar, but a lot of things changed - the IS-4 got a front armour buff (including the lower plate), turret roof buff and lower side armour buff + a side armour nerf. The ST-I had its weakspot practically removed, but the frontal hull remained the same.

The line used to be a sidescraping line, but the ST-I and IS-4 has a weakspot behind the tracks which is still there, but to a lesser degree on the IS-4.

hollow notch
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Its stupid how skilled you have to be to play the is4 skilled

candid harbor
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ikr xD

kindred wren
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Now that I made these claims I will check them - remember folks, first claim, then fact check 😛

candid harbor
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@kindred wren you aren't wrong but weakspot is 50mm thick so any gun smoler than 150mm+ can't overmatch

hollow notch
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Ngl, I don't recall anyone shooting me there and intentionally hitting it when I play them

candid harbor
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there is however smol flat about 50mm weakspot towards the last drive wheels which are quite har d to hit

hollow notch
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Usually they load gold and try to hit the shoulder

candid harbor
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yea, is4 is fast enuff and armor is thic enuf to parry shells

hollow notch
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The maus is fun though. Keeping an eye on several tanks and counter their reloads to know when to angle is quite challenging

candid harbor
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yea, its turret isn't invulnerable

hollow notch
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With a wall it is ._.

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Or against mediums
It fun to just full yolo meds while angled and wiggling

candid harbor
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is4 doesn't need wall, it can look into enemy while spanking them

mouse kant

kindred wren
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Ok, I checked it, and my claim was actually correct

candid harbor
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:confetti:

hollow notch
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Bring back thicc is4 sides

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With a front armor nerf

kindred wren
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There were some people complaining about Wargaming nerfing the sides and buffing the front, because the lines used to be a proper sidescraper line (the KV-3 and KV-4 still are, the KV-1 isn’t anymore and the T-150 was removed) and they turned the top into an allrounder

hollow notch
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Now its idiotproof and dumb

kindred wren
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Which is why it isn’t the best heavy in the game

hollow notch
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Its defenitely the best heavy for the general playerbase

kindred wren
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I think a good tank should enable the player to take advantage in certain situations, but not play the game for the player

hollow notch
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The is4 just has so many advantages. The only weakness is gun depression.

kindred wren
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Which is why it’s no good tank to play, unless you are trying your hardest

hollow notch
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?

kindred wren
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It won’t teach you anything

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It can only be fun if you literally play for stats. Winning in it is like winning in an Annihilator. You won, but not because you were good, and you clearly didn’t deserve the win

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It’s an empty, hallow victory. One won by your tank, not your skill

hollow notch
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There we go, much better phrasing.

And yea, completely agree. That's how it feels when I play my shark

kindred wren
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~~The Shark at least looks good 😉 ~~

hollow notch
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let me poke my turret out repeatedly confront of 5 enemy tanks.
don't mind me as I'm just chipping away at your hp

hollow hill
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Thanks for the insights 👍. I appreciate that

hollow belfry
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Still typing after so long lol lux :p

lyric copper
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it’s one long msg it seems

kindred wren
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The VK 90 vs the IS-4 (equal stats are not mentioned):

Firepower:
They are more or less equal.
Dpm: 2303 vs 2315
Alpha: 460 vs 420
Reload: 11.99 vs 10.88
Shell velocity: 920 vs 940
Penetration: 275 vs 258

Penetration is the most significant difference, and the VK wins it by a considerable margin.

Weapon handling:
Aim time: 2.4 vs 2.78 (BlitzStars aimtime)
Dispersion: 0.355 vs 0.364
Depression: 10 vs 6 (4 vs 6 over the front)
Elevation: 10 vs 16

VK is considerably better.

Movement:
Forward speed: 30 vs 43
Backwards speed: 15 vs 14
Power to weight: 10.97 vs 12.42
Effective: 10, 9.1, 6.8 vs 11.3, 8.9, 7.3

The IS-4 is more mobile, but mostly due to the higher end speed because the effective power to weight is almost the same

Survivability:
HP: 2450 vs 2650
Weight: 91.18 vs 60.37

IS-4 wins because of more hp

Armour:

Turret:
VK:
The turret is only realistically penetrable with gold, and only if you hit correctly. It is a hard shot if the Vk wiggles

IS-4:
There are weakspots, but they are even smaller than those of the VK (which is... small)

Hull:
VK:
The upper front is basically impenetrable, and the side has at least 120 mm everywhere (120 behind the tracks, so you get extra protection (40mm))
The turret ring is mostly covered and the only real weakspot when sidescraping

IS-4: The front is 160 everywhere, making it weaker than that of the VK 90 everywhere except for the lowest part of the lower plate, and vulnerable to prammo in certain conditions. The upper side is 140mm, equal to the VK 90, but 160 on the upper section behind the tracks. However, it’s only 50mm on the lower section, making it a sidescraping weakspot

Overall I’d say the the hull of the VK is slightly stronger, especially in frontal combat. Both are potent sidescrapers

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That’s a stats comparison, but the reason why I decided to pick those two tanks is because they play very similarly (and braindeadly). You go straight to the enemy, do a bit of sidescraping or hulldowing or both, and just shoot them with your ok to good gun while bouncing shots with minimum effort

lyric copper
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rear mounted turret of the VK helps, IS-4s turret is so far forward you have to reverse a considerable amount to fire

kindred wren
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And the reason why I call the VK 90 op is because you can dominate enemies without much trouble and they will have a hard time fighting against you. You are also very flexible with the strategies you can use because of the extra gundepression over the sides. Lastly, the high pen of the standard ammo ensures that you can defeat any enemy heavy tank without much trouble

lyric copper
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Example: I rush cap in IS-4 on vineyards, E100 and Kran rush me, both bounce shots that shoulda penned, they both get bonked by TDs

hollow belfry
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Believe me, the vk 90 isnt nearly as forgiving and is much more susceptible to getting tracked. It just isnt near the level of the is 4... Again, i have both, so i can say. I am pretty sure you only go against the vk 90 and dont own it...

kindred wren
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I must disappoint you, I do own it

lyric copper
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rear turret does hurt on a ridge

kindred wren
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The side armour is angled. If you only use as much gundepression as you need your side armour is still not penetrable to most guns

hollow belfry
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You never see a vk 90 in (pro) tournaments, explain that too pls...

Also true, every time you have to peek over a hill you either expose your sides to make the gd enough to hit the enemy or expose your lower plate...

wispy rain
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I mean, the amount of gun depression you need depends entirely on what you're trying to do

lyric copper
hollow hill
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I was curious too why the IS-4 seems to be in a lot of tournaments. The last Blitz.

hollow belfry
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@lyric copper what? Which battles?

kindred wren
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I don’t follow pro tournaments, but I know that there is a strong movement of affirmation going through pro clans, causing certain tanks to be irrationally used because of a perceptional bias

lyric copper
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@hollow belfry regional finals

hollow hill
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Seems I saw it in the double elimination brackets for championship in Asia

hollow belfry
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@kindred wren 'perceptional bias' really mate...

kindred wren
hollow belfry
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I didnt watch the asian tourn. But didnt see any in the european regionals, mightve missed but if you recall please call out the exact battle.

winter drift
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so idk if this is the place but i have a quick question. i havent played in awhile so please excuse the noobness. i have a bunch of tanks with blue icons on them what are they? some of them used to be premium and some you could buy with silver. what are they and why are they blue?

wise moth
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Well, VK 90 probably isn't used often simply because it's not widely available.

Also, it's kind of a niche use thing. IS-4's front mounted turret, and superior turret armor makes it better suited to the hull-down tank role for controlling angles while hulldown, and Maus does the superheavy thing better.

VK 90, I like to slot in as a very niche TD substitute, since with decent accuracy, high standard pen, and 460 alpha, it snipes well, but also has some flexibility, and a lot of HP, unlike TDs

Also, IIRC, R2K used like 4 of them on Mayan Ruins in almost that exact fashion, using them to lock down the reset angles on the B cap, while also relying on their HP and armor in the event of a counter-push

hollow belfry
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@kindred wren oh come now, pro's are the ones who know this game to the pixel down. The vk 90 isnt used nor nearly as much as the is 4 because its not only a completely different tank, its also very unhandy fo have a tank like the vk 90 in tournaments...

kindred wren
hollow hill
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I don’t. There was definitely a difference in tanks used in NA vs Asia. So, certainly seems different favorites on different servers. The analytics didn’t compare the tanks.

lyric copper
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@winter drift those are collector tanks, introduced in 5.5. You may also realise that you can no longer buy them in the tech tree. WG decided to do this to “make the low tiers more easy”

winter drift
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oh i have teir x blue tanks

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good few low teris tho so that makes sense

hollow belfry
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@wise moth thank you. But i am positive that most pro's own one if they needed it, it has been for sale quite some times?

This started out on @kindred wren 's statement that the vk 90 is op. Do you agree to that?

kindred wren
lyric copper
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AMX 30B, T-22, WZ-111-5A, Badger, T95E6?

winter drift
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yea

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im missing the amx and the wz but im sure i had them way back

kindred wren
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Aside from that, pro tournaments are no measure for how strong a tank is

wise moth
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@hollow belfry Well, I think most teams could pull up a VK 90 or two if they needed one, but it's not like an IS-4, or T110E5 or something where everyone has one, and as a result may result in some less than ideal lineup shifts simply due to lower availability (like having to put your best medium player in a VK 90, simply because no one else has a VK 90 or something), and since it's a fairly niche tank, I don't think there's much pressure to actually get one for comp reasons

As for VK 90 being OP, well, honestly, I don't think I'll ever agree with that statement, even if the thing gets overbuffed, since I played it in test, and it had no super HP provisions, less armor, and that was before the heavy HP buff too, and it was absolutely horrific. And quite frankly, I'm not sure if I'll ever wash that taste out of my mouth, especially since I don't own one now.

On a more objective level, I don't really think it's OP, it's still severely limited by the rear mounted turret, and lack of turret armor. People compare it to the Maus and IS-4, but I really don't find that to be an apt comparison. I view it more like an FV-215b with less mobility, accuracy, and DPM, in exchange for better hull armor, a trade a find to be honestly, not great.

hollow belfry
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Thanks a lot! I never know how to word my opinions well... I hope this tells you enough about the comparison@kindred wren , thats how i think about it as well

kindred wren
brittle atlas
#

give me guidence please for i have recived the cheiftan mk 6

what equipment and how play, i watch pantoufs vid on it also

kindred wren
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It’s a medium heavy hybrid, but I would rathe recommend to play it like a medium than a heavy, because the cupola is indeed very weak and very large. But if it comes to the worst you can still play it like a hulldown heavy

pallid flame
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Not a medium

solid gate
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^^^ It's best as a second line hulldown HT, where you engage people at range, since your gun is snappy and more accurate, you have the advantage, while your cupola will be smaller and harder to hit

brittle atlas
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so i shouldnt try to get hulldown possition?

wise moth
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Play hulldown whenever possible, just don't expect to bounce too much

kindred wren
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You very much should, but you shouldn’t try to face heavies frontally if you can avoid it, at least not on close distances

brittle atlas
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ah, i also see that he pen is large

thin sable
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how do i play jagdtiger i loved the line becous it was pretty mobile up intil it and i just get frustrated from playing it

lyric copper
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@thin sable 2nd line DPM monster, punish overconfident enemies with 3.5k dpm

brittle atlas
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i least im on the top of the list in battles lol

pallid flame
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Proves nothing

kindred wren
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That’s the spirit XD

brittle atlas
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ik, but still

thin sable
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@lyric copper i'll try

kindred wren
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If you manage to have all enemies in front of you and if you are hulldown the Jagdtiger is brutal

lyric copper
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@thin sable most tier X meds have to load prammo in order to pen your cheeks at most angles

pallid flame
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*all enemies, ur dead

kindred wren
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P.S. You can also angle TDs to bounce shots

pallid flame
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I go angle su130pm and bounce shots

brave night
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Lol

kindred wren
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Lol

pallid flame
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It actually bounces shots

brave night
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Lol

lyric copper
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bounced a grille earlier today, but did have a broken gun+ .36 disp on the move

brave night
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Somebody bounce on my scorpion g today with pramo

brittle atlas
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should i do better armor or more health for the cheiftan mk6

lyric copper
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more HP

brave night
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Health

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You most likely want to use hp, enhanced gun laying drive, calibrated shells, vert stabs or dispersion doesn’t matter, the one that increase you engine power thing, the high end consumable thing is up to you as well

wise moth
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I would run rammer on the Chieftain, you need the DPM on that tank

brave night
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Yeah but your pramo pen is poor

pallid flame
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who cares

kindred wren
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Just don’t shoot prammo, easy fix 😛

wise moth
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It's bad, but it's not that bad. 310 APCR will get the job done, and you won't need it that often

brave night
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Again up to your preference

thin sable
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i live in belgium. i am not even able to buy keys or crates i can only get a key or crates if they drop from games

pallid flame
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keys don’t drop from games

kindred wren
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I love how there is now a debate about rammer or cs. This server used to be a bastion for CS only

thin sable
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i know but those boxes with keys do

wise moth
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But, like if you run calibrated, then E5 is better in basically every way, so you might as well run rammer and maintain one of Chieftains only advantages

@kindred wren I am the cornerstone of the rammer side

brittle atlas
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should i go with heavy or meds in the beginning of the games,
with cheiftan

thin sable
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so thats where my luck lies if i want chieftan

kindred wren
solid gate
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Nah run rammer all the way in Mk6 Mk6 has really good dpm out of the heavies including the brits and that is a powerful trait sacrificing it for a bit more pen is situational but not that encouraged

wise moth
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#rammergang

brittle atlas
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#dpm gang?

brave night
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Most tanks cs is better but I suppose cheftain is good as well

wise moth
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#ddpppmmmmm

kindred wren
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I don’t care if I pen, all I want is shoot, shoot, shoot!

brave night
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Intresting

brittle atlas
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i counted like 6 veiw ports on the mk6,

kindred wren
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You can influence enemy tanks by bouncing off them. I sometimes shoot the ground to bait people into shooting back

solid gate
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Like for instance say you have adrenaline fully learned and your knocked down to 20% health if you have CS on youlll only get 7.6 which is the base reload for a fully loaded Mk6 with rammer vs 6.9-7.0 with rammer on and that’s enough to severely punish anyone who’s left standing late game

kindred wren
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Yes, you can play 4D chess in Blitz too 🤪

brave night
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As said on most tanks you run cs but I suppose you could run rammer on cheftain

wise moth
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Rammer on everything, with very few exceptions

lyric copper
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@kindred wren oh please I play 5D chess with the ATGM version of the Tennison gambit

kindred wren
solid gate
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Hell if you wanted to you can run rammer on Sheridan and full heat now

brave night
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Lol

kindred wren
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I only run CS on tanks which need their HE pushed over a certain threshold of common side armour thickness

lyric copper
brave night
kindred wren
kindred wren
brave night
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Bro if you don’t run cs on t10 meds except Leo

lyric copper
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bro please I need to show Leopard 1 players which is the better tank in my rammer T-62A

solid gate
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The shortest tank is the electric biscuit

lyric copper
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rammer T-62A makes the Leopard 1 kinda irrelevant

kindred wren
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Why would I run CS on my tier ten mediums? It’s not like I shoot anything other than weakspots anyways

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Leopard 1 is irrelevant anyways

gentle wasp
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wouldn't running CS on the meds defeat the purpose of playing a med over a heavy 🤔

kindred wren
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That reminds me: Supercharger over Gun Laying Drive!

lyric copper
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not irrelevant, I’d say overshadowed @kindred wren

brittle atlas
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aaaaa i cant play the cheiftan, i am too bad

gentle wasp
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@kindred wren pls explain, I am a heathen 🙏

kindred wren
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I am slightly impressed with how retarded I managed to make that explanation

gentle wasp
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but what if I don't have a problem with velocity on 90% of my tanks
lol

kindred wren
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It really depends on how much you actually shoot while driving

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And how slow or fast your aimtime is to begin with. Supercharger is really only a choice when the shell velocity is frankly awful or when gun laying drive just gives no benefit

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There is also the third case of pen drop but that requires a lot of research and is tank specific

gentle wasp
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so quick aim time and slow velo? that doesn't sound very common
the english omg

kindred wren
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Well, it’s a logical or, not an and

lyric copper
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I’d take sc on a 183

kindred wren
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I use gun laying drive on that tank because the aim time is so slow

solid gate
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1478 is not bad still best ingame aside from the Russians (even though some of the IS tanks get this velocity why would you do this wg) 1900+ is a huge improvement

gentle wasp
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I'm pretty sure I only run SC on Type 62 and maybe Bromwell. I know we have talked about this before but I am still not convinced.

kindred wren
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Did your autocorrect turn sc into cs?

solid gate
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Pen drop is a only a problem on pure APCR tanks from what I know or have been told from positive rounds that are indeed called APDS dont suffer from pen drop as bad as pure APCR

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bruh i barely run CS, im a gold noob so i just dab the 2 key and spam it

gentle wasp
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@kindred wren yes, autocorrect... 👀

kindred wren
brittle atlas
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damn, 5 games in the cheiftan, all loses, i need to learn how to play, but for that i need my team to carry for once

lyric copper
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try not dying?

brittle atlas
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i try

kindred wren
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Lol, I replied to the right person but the wrong message

gentle wasp
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lol I think you converted me on the Type. Might try it on a couple more, what would you recommend for starters?

solid gate
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If you want run full heat and C.S on type because the ammunition literally costs 2,400 credits

kindred wren
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I actually use it on most of my tier ten mediums

gentle wasp
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I like DPM tho
121? seems kinda sluggish

kindred wren
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No, not the 121, but things like the Leopard 1, FV 4202, M48 Patton, basically all tanks that can’t expose themselves for long enough to aim anyways

gentle wasp
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4202 interesting...

solid gate
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121 has tougher protection than say a 140 aswell

kindred wren
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Actually, there might be an argument for the velocity of HESH of the 4202, let me check

gentle wasp
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I have no idea how to equip/play the 121 to be fair. I like the concept of a mobile med with big alpha and a decent turret, but the gun depression, aiming thing, and the fact that it is t10 just completely screws me over

brittle atlas
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please tell me why the flank on my team always looses?

kindred wren
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Well, the supercharger makes the HESH go at around 1500 m/s, which is standard for APCR/ APDS on tier ten

brittle atlas
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fast

kindred wren
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121? Not my favourite tank, but I go all out on aim time and gun stats in my equipment

solid gate
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Still find it ironic t62 gets an insanely accurate gun that makes leopards pale in comparisons

kindred wren
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The biggest issue of the 121 is the one second you need to aim

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It’s just a second but a second is sometimes too much in med brawls

gentle wasp
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it's annoying and I feel like even if you aim in the dispersion isn't really that good anyway

kindred wren
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Yeah, that’s why I don’t like it that much

gentle wasp
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would much rather have a normal gun, like 113 has

kindred wren
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I like its uniqueness, but at the same time I curse it

gentle wasp
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agreed. it's really fun until the aim time thing just screws you

kindred wren
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Whenever I give advice on tanks I think of my performances in it and how I am actually not that good of a player

lyric copper
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everyone starts a novice

kindred wren
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So yeah, my advice is only worth as much as it’s actually effective, and looking at my stats it won’t make you a superunicum

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I’m not a novice anymore, I’m actually getting worse 😛

gentle wasp
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well yea I am also terrible at tier 10 since I can't just farm people, so it's rather annoying

kindred wren
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I went through three basic playstyles throughout my days;
When I started I focused kills and winning,
Later I focused on damage and consistency,
And now I am carving for teamplay and strategy

gentle wasp
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makes sense why your stats would get worse then 😜

kindred wren
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😆

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I think we should play one day

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Sadly you are on NA and I am on the best server 😛

gentle wasp
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🙄 come to NA, don't be scared

hollow belfry
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@kindred wren whats ya ign man maybe we can toon sometimes

gentle wasp
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ooh pretty numbers

kindred wren
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Note that the first letter is a zero

kindred wren
gentle wasp
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07
why does that make more sense yet look terribly wrong

kindred wren
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Read the clan-description if you can

hollow belfry
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Ooo u play your lesser armoured meds pretty well it seems

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Im about to unlock the m48, who knows you can teach me a thing or two 😏

gentle wasp
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"If you are going downhill, at least you don’t have to push."
Epic. I am saving this.

kindred wren
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XD

hollow belfry
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Ima send you a friend request, name's BrandoTheMan77

gentle wasp
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and now to stat shame lux

kindred wren
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I’m not online so I might take some time to accept it

kindred wren
gentle wasp
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nvm love you lots, since I found someone with higher toon rate than me 😌

kindred wren
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100%, as it should be