#vehicles-discussion
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Omg I can’t afford that 😂😂 ok what’s a decent tank that’s below 12 bucks
If you want a tier 6 one Cromwell B
@fast compass the shark is almost to the point of boring to play with how strong it is
Smasher = Infinite power
T54E2 = almost infinite power
It is a bit too expensive for a f2p player even if it is op, especially since i generally don't like playing heavies
The only thing keeping it from being ridiculously op is the gun is slightly derpy. But that's compared to 105s, not 122s
It deserves a lot more whining on this server than it gets
If they buffed accuracy on IS-5 it would be OP :)
I actually remember people calling it trash when it was sold in crates
lmao
That aged poorly
If it keeps noobs from swarming it, great
Imagine WoTB youtubers make videos on it praising the tank for being OP @hollow notch
This armor profile+beastly gun
T34s: Cries in powercreep
Is the t-34-3 still in store ?
Nah, t34 is fine. Its 100%gun focused and it can do this
Lol
Nope. Black friday event ended about three* days ago.
black friday is long gone my guy
Damn I took a break and come back to late
I prefer Emil 1 to shark. Emil 1 gets out the damage better
how the hell do you play the sta 1
Free xp
alright better question: how do you play the sta 1? actual answers please
Shoot and dont get shot. It's more of a sniper medium. The gun is acceptable but the dpm is lacking. You can try hull down, and it will bounce a bit, but hiding behind an ally is a far better tactic. Never go alone, and use the high pen as much as possible.
great. and i have to grind 168k xp to get to the type 61
Type 61 is a bit better tier for tier, but is basically the same thing.
is the stb 1 even good
STB-1 is arguably the best tech tree medium right now. Is it worth the suffering though? Hard to say
@wise moth laughs in pay to win free XP reserves
Ascends in event grinding
I have mixed feelings about stb
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502018644193181706/778546792228323349/kiticalhit_HD_720p.mp4
@candid harbor Yet another reason why HE penetrations are the stupidest mechanic in the game and should be removed
noo xd, it is more like wg make models to have those kind of weakspots
Nah it’s more or less a good example of “chances of it happening are low but never zero”
💯
I wonder if WG could make the game a bit realistic like if H.E penn it will cause a explosion inside the tank hurting crew or fire maybe possibly ammo rack
@candid harbor that right there counters smasher and 183 defenders arguments really well
@scarlet echo i think game does that, you get mini explosion calculation like we have in minecraft for tnt, then it checks how many (shell fragments) pellets hit different modules, i think that is why there are so many knocked out modules after higher caliber he shell penetrate armor
but that is just what i think, I don't think wg would be making that 'how does he work' which they promised like 5 or 6 years ago
@candid harbor now that is what I would certainly call bad luck...
:'D
@scarlet echo That is how HE works in game. It's modeled a a bunch of vectors that shoot out in a cone after penetration. Also, HE shells do guranteed module damage if they pen, no saving throw calculations
i wonder if module damage can be stacked if all happen to damage internal modules
Fires can cause extra module damage sometimes it even ignites the ammorack
yea, I have seen that xD
those poor kv1s
Thats very accurate lmao
that dude pulled that off with a broken gun
@shrewd moth
stb is too good
Ight
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Is the Vk 30 01 P any good? Just wondering, because I’m pretty much done with the Cromwell cause of its lack of armour and alpha
Well it's ok,it would be better if it was classified as a heavy and got some armor buff tho
Ok so i used my 6000 gold to buy fxp for my 1st t10 e100 (since i got a tank research certificate for t10 from mission container) and now i have 194 gold. Then, i sold my tankenstein and pz4s to get creds to buy it and sold e75 too. e100 is a very mobile tank, even more than tiger 2 and very much higher mobility than my expectations for a super heavy. So, did i do right?
Wg need to remove annihilator from normal matchmaking
@balmy wagon if we bully them for 10 patches straight, there could be chance
No, you did absolutely wrong if you're not a whale.
@iron galleon you could have wait for blitz fair or xmas crates y'now?
Just wanted an e100. anyways I don't regret it😅
The pain begins
it was fun tank when I played it, it was before wg buffes its penetration
i was thinking about getting the tiger 2
not sure tho
Well...... since it’s last buff
It's good
I still have it.... but yeah... since the Emil I are there didn’t played it much
I just don't know how to play the Tiger 2 but when played properly it's really good
Emil 2 or kravagn?
@light crag kran
Ummm, they're on same line? @light crag
@solid gate yes they are, emil2 is tier 9, and kran is tier 10
So why not both lol if you ask for both ?
^
But i really not like reload time on kravagn
@light crag it's worse on emil2 dude
Well....
Anybody think emil 2 need a little buff?
Okay i will keep my kravagn on my garage, sayonara emil 2
It’s fine in my opinion
It'a bit worse, but the main problem is the turret armor, you have not enough armor on the turret to make it an hulldown beast like kran
@radiant coral the turret is too weak for its mobility armor profile except the turret and its dpm really
@jovial bloom yeah, here's the point
Both emils are good no buff pls
Yeah, that’s probably why so unpopular and not really many people do talk about it
Yes @balmy quest agree, imagine the tier 8 have more armor (not at the same angle) but have a lit better mobility and close to broke
IMO turret armor on emils are good I always have to use prammo to pen it
@solid gate emil 1 is overpowered, emil 2 need turret buff
@jovial bloom yeah, it's just a tier 9 emil 1 with worse dpm, armor, speed, but more pen and alpha
Do you guys like autoreloading tank?
Emil and kranvagn turret is supposed to be immune against all round in its tier, prammo included, especially emil 2 and kranvagn, emil 1 is fine but it deserve nerf on its mobility
@light crag if you want really great autore loaders, go for italians, prog is great, standard is op and pantera is among the best meds at tier 8
Emil 1 is nowhere near fine and Emil 2 is not meant to be impenetrable otherwise it's a kran at tier 9 and the kran is already a great tank. 🤦♀️ @jovial bloom
How about prog 65?
Bruh emil 1 is overpowered i can feel it, emil 2 realy deserve turret buff, cause it's the main trade of all the armor on the hull dpm and mobility of this tank
I just told you prog 65 os great
Emil II should have like more than 175mm of turret armor, idk why they put 175 when Emil I has 180.
Yea, they will nerf it in next update
Wich tank will they nerf?
Sweden won’t get a nerf
190 mm frontal turret armor for emil 2 seems good?
I'd take 190mm/200mm on Emil II turret buff they're good enough just lower than kran turret but not so far from Emil I thickness.
Not for now as far as I heard about it
Agree, that will make this tank good
But 190mm is more logical because it let's T8 TD has chances on penning it from not so steep angles.
Why is everyone talking about thicknesses instead of effective armour lmao
Tier 9 should be, but tier 8 shouldnt i think
When we remain the same angle and we increase the base armor the armor effectiveness precentage will still be the same
Grinding chinese tds very difficult for me
Wdym emils should be immune on turret? I don't want a t1 heavy case again
That's kinda different bud, emil&kran trade everything for the turret armor
Man, turret is the only force of emils, not emil 1, in fact emil 1 is op
It’s broken
Increasing the armour by 10-15mm at that angle has a much larger knock on effect because of the angle and it's significantly easier to understand and visualise if you use effective thickness...
Yeah u can be right
Yes but if the point of force of a tank is weak, then it needs a little buff tho
calculate effective thickness
with this handy formula
effective_thickness = nominal_armor /cos(angle of entry-normalization)
Maybe 5 or 6 mils, so maybe a friking med cannot pen with prammos
Did the amx mle 54 will replace kranvagn? It has better alpha damage, mobility, dpm, and look at the turret armor
@jovial bloom it's just op, noting special
Yeah that's it, the armor is even better than the pc version even though they have nerfed it hah
With its mobility and imposing armour profile, amx would serve more as a pushing tank i would think. It can perform the krans role of holding a ridge as well without a clip tho
Tips on Vk 100.1(p) plss, it's hard to play slow tank for real since i always play meds and lts, kinda sucks on super heavies but i want maus tho
@balmy wagon go to a central location where you can shoot everywhere and everything can shoot back. From finding a good spot all you do is alpha trade everything.
Okeyy
No thanks 💀
Bruh don't give us helsing on steroid pls
Helsing doesn’t work like the st-II
one thing i want to know why is the Pz. IV the G varient and not the H varient
the Pz. IV H varient exists in the GuP version, so why not put it in the german tech tree with normal camo
Helsing doesn’t work like the st-II
@solid gate care to explain the difference 😶
Iirc the H has side skirts and the G does not
Any weird quirks i should know about in the pz. 38, t5 leo, or the vk 28.01?
the Pz. IV H varient exists in the GuP version, so why not put it in the german tech tree with normal camo
@full berry then there would be no difference with the GUP version bruh
i know what the difference between the G varient and the H varient is, im just wondering why the Pz. IV H isnt in the tech tree
i just want WG replace FV4202 with Centurion AX
@stone echo st 2 doesn't shoot both shells if you press fire button
it only shoots one shell and works like a 2 shell auto reloader
but if you hold fire button, a mini loading sequence is triggered and after few secs 2 shells are fired
and then you wait for long reload
@stone echo helsing shoots twice at once and reloads “both” at the same time ST-II can optionally fire twice at once but sacrifices its reload and takes time to do the progress
Kk, noted that @candid harbor @solid gate
for the KV2 is the 107mm gun better than the 153mm gun
The 107mm is actually reliable, the 152mm is a meme gun that’s hilarious when it works but ultimately unreliable
And now I’m wondering how to use the KV-1S with its 85mm gun, given that I’ll be stuck with it until I get the 20k xp required for the 122mm boomstick...
I find it funny that, somehow I'm continuing a grind towards 113gft rather than 268.
excelsior or Churchill III
Churchill III Because you can survive more than Excelsior because of good armor profile.
oh ok
thank you i can also play with my brother if i dont like the Excelsior anyways so idk i didnt think of dat
Excelsior is nice but the sides armor is really weak and flat 100mm's+ makes it harder to effectively wiggle and bounce, or even trying to angle.
hey guys, is it just me or does the annihilator turret look physically impossible? I dont think a person could fit and properly operate one irl
It looks less cramped than normal french oscillating turrets. So ofc it will fit a person.
Just look at AMX-13s today, they can fit a person's surely annihilator can do the same.
i feel the sane about emil how on earht are you gonna fit in there?
By squeezing yourself or becoming smoll, and not moving a lot that's how just sit there operate the tank with the current equipment n done, unless you're the commander who needs to peek the cupola ports.
I don’t even feel remotely sorry for you
It’s fine, i can just reload
Was it caused by a broken gun?
It gives some insight into the mechanics behind these instant-clippers
Backtracking on tech tree, Firefly or Cromwell
Crom @still oyster
Just got the Grille 15, and I'm super hyped
Yo folks, what's better to pick - SU+ISU 130 or 30b? I do have medium 10 premium already, but have no prem tds except for DMax.
E25 bundle
That's 30B not 50B I guess
Oh fixed
Well, the T7 is ruined with fantasy tanks so e25 seems to be a bad choice. As for Lowe I already have like...9 tier 8 credit grinders of all types, except TDs.
E25 is still a fine tank, it has excellent pen, accuracy, speed, and a low profile. I wouldn't recommend either of your initial options.
Why not? Afaik 130pm is quite a fine tank, similar to scorpion, whereas isu130 has top dpm. 30b is on par with leopard.
su is overrated, isu is too specialized, and amx is inferior to the STB and Leo
1st reason is because of DPM, 2nd reason is because the designers decided to put Mont Blanc on the turret so “the commander could have clear vision”
Aha, let's cross our the amx30b then. But the tds, do they bring something interesting, fun to the table? Like, unusual gameplay or smth like that. I'm prone to having the non-popular vehicles that are quite niche, e.g. lorraine, chrysler, kv-5 etc.
if you have money buy the T54E2 bundle quick (if it is still in store at time of writing), or wait for Xmas
T54e2 seems too boring tbh. Just another heavy(ium) with op armour. I'd like something stealthy, thing that may safely shoot from bush. Similar to Stug III with its needle canon, from the PC tanks version. Nifty, agile, deft beast that had superior camo and could permatrack from 100m unnoticed. E-25 seems like it but well, I'm not considering tier 7 as worthy for now. Canonjgpz looks neat and nice, but I'm sure WG will sell them in the first half of the next year crates only or something like that, non-achievable quickly, thus leaving my premium td niche empty for some more time.@gentle wasp @lyric copper
I like the 1st screen
Gun is literally going through the engine
Do you own it and play it just asking if yes personal Experience just asking how yours was 👀
So uh, any thoughts for my request? Would be grateful.
Amx 30b is awesome ;.;
Uh wait
it’s Tankeatingtiger, he has many tanks
@subtle mason the SUs aren’t really worth imo, I’d wait for KnJpz
Everyone hating on the 30b
Meanwhile im sitting here driving that thing and it takes me less effort to win than with leo1/stb1
@radiant coral I do have it and play it occasionally. It's an absolute blast, my stats probably aren't the greatest because I try to yolo and burn stuff down all the time, but it is a really good tank.
Hmmm well.... I would say go and take the E-25 bundle I don’t regret it to have them both lol
@gentle wasp oh well 🤣😅 I know that (feeling) hype I do love it, but it’s own vs tier 8 heavy... well you have to use most of the time pramo
@static harness fr tho
reasons why I don’t like the AMX 30b:
why the hell did the designers feel the need to put a mountain on the turret? Is the tank commander here to take uninterrupted panorama shots of the battlefield?
I hope it'll be stealthy enough and sold for gold soon, then. Doubt they'll release it for gold initially or in near future, though.
Fair point
But for some reason I bounce more incoming shells with the 30b turret than stb1 turret
It has the Leopard’s gun at tier 8, with the dynamics of the RU 251. if it’s a crate tank okay, if it’s sold for gold imma get it
@lyric copper Because in real life, shooting a cupola repeatedly doesn't destroy a tank. Also visibility is super important, but this is Blitz lol
30B has a troll turret and ngl it was a Cold War tank,.. correct me if I’m wrong it was probably as far as I remember it between France and Germany that tank designed..
I also have something for French tanks
So slight bias there
Okay, you've convinced me to wait. The 105 is worth the wait, I guess, considering I'm more a "germany man" than soviet one. Thanks for the talk!
honestly makes the silhouette more prominent, vision is important, but no need to increase the height by a factor of what seems like 10 to get it that clear, the Leopard 1 and Centurion had much flatter turrets and could see as far and clear as the 30b could, + it was easier for the TC to snyc with the gunner
True ^^
I'm SUPER hyped for Kanonejagdpanzer
I would be if I weren't poor :kek:
Same here, I want it too, but there is the Prem Centurion coming I want both of them....
If this leak is to be believed, then Kanonen seems extremely fun.
only 100 less DPM than post buff JT88, 70 km/h mobility, .308 accuracy, on the Leopard 1 gun....
Basically the perfect sniper
like sorry mr gunner, you can’t see the enemy tank because you aren’t situated as high as me? do not dare question the elevated one.
Oh damn, thanks
Oh, is it a leak or people blandly got the stats from the wotpc?
Same here, but unfortunately I won't be able to buy anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
French engineering in a nutshell
need bigger viewports etc!
camo 62
Oh boi.
@lyric copper Well, the commander is an NCO or even a commisioned officer, and the gunner is just some enlisted dude, so yeah, there is no questioning the elevated one.
In most manuals and field doctrine for tankers, the commander is the one who tells the gunner where to point the turret and who to shoot
yeah but real problem is if the tank is hulldown, the TC can see well, but the gunner not so much, target acquisition will be harder
@lyric copper If the tank is hulldown, the gunner doesn't need to see. The commander says "turn the turret 50 degrees left and shoot that tank"
“What tank?”
“Trust me”
@lyric copper Well, if the tank can bring the gun to bear, then the gunner can see it
Is KJGPZ in supertesting already? Any rumours except the leak? As far as I see, the tank may drop from the snow globe, so it should be out in the end of December, or somewhat there.
Gunner visibility in all tanks is awful. The commander is always his eyes
I haven’t seen it... probably the Prem Centurion tier 8 first and the other Chinese tier 7 med tank prem
leopard has gunners periscopes above the gun right? 30Bs is next to the gun, which could cause sighting problems if they somehow miss
@lyric copper you don't question your superior in military trust me
It never ends well for low ranked one, I have experience on that unfortunately
read up a bit
Gunner visibility doesn't matter, he just needs to be able to see where the gun is pointing, because, again the commander is the one in charge of seeing the battlefield, and even sometimes in charge of telling the gunner how to aim
IIRC, on the StuG III for instance, the commander was responsible for telling the gunner how to aim in the vertical plane
^
Also, visibility is super important in real life armored warfare. He who sees the enemy first, will get the first shot, and he who gets the first shot almost always wins
On the real battlefield you gotta have your reflexes sharp and don't question the commander, it may cost you your life. Either vehicle works as a machine with calculated actions, or it is dead. At least that's what my grandgrand father told me once.
One of the biggest determining factors for the efficiency of a tank crew is how quickly and effectively the tank commander can communicate with his crew.
The commander is everything on the tank crew
@wise moth do you also have the Stats for this tank
(Just asking)
@radiant coral https://blitzhangar.com/
What play-style best suits the Progetto 64?
support medium, fire one shot, let that shell reload, shoot again until the enemy is ~600hp, then go ham with the intraclip
It’s just like a P.44 imo
Just wait for xmas to come, su 130pm is fairly overpriced for what it is and isu 130 is definitely not worth as the su152 with the 122 mm does about the same role
Thanks for the tips
Crates. For sure
Unfortunately
I doubt the Kanonen will be sold in crates I mean it’s nothing too good just a amazing sniper
Can an tiger II outperform an object 252u ?
Any tank can out preform another depending on the players
True
On the other end of the scale, there's a little tank the Pz.IV A (tier III), why oh why does it have dpm worse than most tier II tanks??? I mean Pz.III A on the same tier has nearly double the dpm. I know nobody cares about low tiers, but is there any semblance of balance in there?
Its got better pen alpha and gd
I have a kv-1 with 150k exp,very good hitter and damage taker unless from a higher tier but I can damage some higher tiers as well
better pen by 2mm, dpm 577 instead of 960, that doesn't sound like a fair trade-off. not sure the higher alpha balances that out.
It has 13mm higher pen and is also a low tier derp gun
I had the Leichtraktor and the M3 Lee,why it does not show them to me in my tanks(not in garage) or in the buyback thing
Is the vk72 worth it?
@solid gate you can't restore the Ltr
maybe
what tank is the best first tier 9?
One thats been free xped to be fully upgraded
I'd say the ST-1 or the E-75,both are strong heavy tanks and new players can slowly learn about heavy tank positions.
If it's a mt I'd go for T-54,great reliable tank,fast reload and great gun.
Don't mention that stock T-54 have 175mm pen
ok i regret getting the amx 13 90 and vk 100.01 p
@lyric copper no not really it doesn’t cause sighting issues however the amx 30B did not ever get a stabilizer unlike it’s nato counterparts
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e75 for sure. moderately painless grind and it's one of the toughest tanks tier for tier. St1's great as well but the grind's alot more painful
Oof
This mode is insanely fun lol
buff 183
change my mind
How would you buff it because if you buff armor it’s just insane if you buff mobility it will still suck. If you buff the gun it will be broken. There is no way to balance it. It’s best the way it is
C A M O
is the american T34 powercreeped? I dont see it much often anymore
The it will hit you for 930 or 1300 without getting spotted making it even more broken
im not saying buff it alot, but i feel it does need some sort of buff, look at how all T10 are preforming, its SO LOW
@vale otter nah, it is fine
just extremely boring to play
my username says it all
how about they just nerf everything else, because why not?
guys quick check, is the rudolph a tier 5 or 6
6
iirc the devs said they do not plan on buffing the 183 at all in the future. to enforce that, think about the fact it has been the worst performing T10 for over a year and nothing has been done, which is fine. deal with the 183’s current state or sell it and play better tanks
🤷♂️
I mean if u buff 183's camo then people will complain about that too
it deserves to stay as the worst tank if it has that large of an alpha
The 183 really needs a buff, not like it’s the 5th most played tank over the past 90 days🤡
183 is already a toxic, annoying tank - its sole purpose, like smasher's or kv-2's or whatever big gins tier for tier are there - to annoy and frustrate people with oneshots or nearly oneshots.
Can testers use tanks that they test in game modes like uprising? @grand cliff <@&481447501690568709>
absolutely not
you shouldn't have really pinged us for that, but testers should only be playing matches in Random Battles
@calm inlet then check this out, battle was riged + test tank
dude, that tank just went for sale in the Shop
its in crates, but its not a test tank anymore
What lol im blind haaha sorry :(
all good, id rather have that than a tester actually playing in another gamemode
True
T26e4
Pilot1 for sure. Pretty much anything is better than super Pershing atm
Pilot every day
bruh
Pilot 1 seems actually quite nice. Ig being another pershing clone and being in crates for first sale has given it a bad name
the SP has good armor tho, good pen, the mobility is not tath bad, and it has good pen values
That’s a joke right
i mean, if you want a pilot1 you just go and grind the pershing, pershing has even better turret
The armour is pointless once you know where to aim. The pen is above avg but nothing too exceptional. Mobility IS bad for the lack of armour. And the gun is just plain awful
Peishing thicc
lack of armor? you just have the rurret roof as a weakspot, it has stronger armor then a lot of tier 8 heavyes
Negative!
The forehead makes its armor irrelevant.
i usually bounce tier 9 meds spamming prammo at my hull
Ah yes people who can't aim and have no brain in T9
Roof is a weakness yes. But so is the turret cheeks. And the mantlet. And the lowerplate. And the upper plate when unangled. And sides and rear are paper anyways
mantlet is near to 300 with spaced armor, lower plate is troll, and a lot of shells will be eaten by spaced armor
and for turret cheaks just wiggle
Lower plate is less troll than upper ones, and even then you'll get hit by everyone at your forehead, while laughing at your stupid mobility.
@fast compass try to soot there with ur heavy with 220 pen, you will never ever pen
The heavy will go boop forehead, because people don't want to risk themselves on bouncing from the mantlet.
I don't need to hit there when your cheeks and roof is paper anyways
@fast compass you cannot say tath superpershing doesn't bounce, cmon, i have at least 3 steel walls in 7 games
Noob proof yes, average players no
Super pershing doesn't have the armour to role play a heavy nor can it relocate as a medium. Even the regular Pershing is slow but it can change flanks if necessary. It doesn't have the gun to compete against either.
.... i have nearly 11k battles, i don't tink they matchmaked reds with only noobs
Ah yes, then people who can't aim on the obvious spot.
You go and sit in the worst tanks and still perform well. Doesn't make the tank better
You could have 11k battles and still not grasp basic concepts majority of blitz players proving this
Putting a unicum in a bad tank still makes the tank itself bad, only performance of the tank went up, you can expect a noob to watch unicum to do plays with it and expecting them can't do the same.
ik, but i mean, pilot1, wat's special?
And for the record the super Pershing’s armor creates its own effect where it forces who ever confronts it to aim for the weaker regions on the turret thus defeating its own armor
it's a pershing with some more mobility, and totally paper armor
Better than being slow with useless armor that can only works for those who can't aim.
well at least you don't get oneshotted by an ISU in the SP
Right because you’ll get penned anyways by one
ofc, isu pens everithing
So the one shot straw men is irrelevant
but an SU152 can pen you with HE with cali, i mean, i pen all day long pilot's turret in a comet
Same goes for your SP, even a comet can pen your forehead.
Pilot1 isn't entirely special. What it does have is the mobility, and fantastic at that. Also gets 200 more dpm, the buff Pershing needs to be relevant again.
Except you can’t pen the majority of pilots turret in comet
That’s on the roof which is a really specific scenario for a pilot to expose his entire roof for a comet to pen because all roofs are weak in a practical scenario where the pilot is hull downing using his gun depression the mantlet makes up the majority of the front which black dog can’t even pen
140 armor on mantlet
oh sorry, i was wrong
it's 200, i think both tanks need a buff
203mm mantlet on the Pilot, while also having around 140mm's effective on the near mantlet cheeks that is less angled which is smaller than SP cheeks weakspots.
smaller?
See the SP has larger spots to get hit than the Pilot, majority of it's turret is angled, even by wiggling your roof is the spot where lots of your opponent should aim.
Wiggling in pilot sometimes is meh since you're creating more weakspots.
in hulldown they are smaller, and a lot
you can shoot through gun of t26e4
@candid harbor you can do it with every tank lmao
nah, you can shooy at gun of t26e4 and it will penetrate
like at 15
Yet pilot has another 114mm behind mantlet, while SP 0mm
@glass relic i repeat, next time you see an sp shoot there if you have 220 pen, you will never pen
Uhm I'm not that idiot enough to shoot there when I can shoot its forehead easily less struggle less RNG.
@glass relic yes but when the forehead is hidden like in hulldown, and the owner wiggle it's hard to pen
the driver makes the tank, not in smasher or annhilator of course
And engaging a hulldown tank is a bad idea so, i just wait for an opening or flanking.
@glass relic too general, tath works with every single tank of the game
I think the T28 needs a buff :/
And it always works well so I don't get what you're trying to pursue, so basically want me to snipe it's cupola? Sure hand me panther and i can do it.
Or i can just press 2 on my keyboard and done.
wich cpola? and 2 doesn't alwais work, if you have HEAT tath spaced armor will eat them
t28 is garbage and rightly deserves a massive buff
Who said that i would use HEAT to shoot through.
@glass relic @glass relic you, lol
good luck 😉
@balmy quest As soon as you put the gun up you are exposing your cheeks, and you have to keep lowering it every 5 sec to shoot. Even then 220mm+ of pen will go straight through the mantlet easily. And then on top of the useless armour you have a pathetic gun and mobility...
Also do you even know what hulldown engagement is?
stop, i am not saying the tank is impenetrable, and in game is not so ez to aim while a tank is moving like on armor inspector
ok? and the gun is pratically the same as the pilot apart from accuracy, and has better pen
.2 bloom is physically disgusting, and if you run CS the guns are almost exactly the same, just the pilot accelerates more than twice as fast, the turret is a decent amount better and the hull is worse
i know
And if you have to wiggle to get the armour to bounce some of the time then you have to re-aim every shot because none of your snapshots will go in
i know, but i prefere to have a good hull armor and a meh mobility, beside having a meh mobilty (apart top speed tath is great) and a total useless armor even HE able by tier 7 derps
I prefer mobility than sluggish unreliable armored tank that will get crippled faster than the tank with mobility.
it seems you are talking about an indien panzer
200mm of pen goes through its hull easily, and there are weakspots literally everywhere so the hull of the SP is only really effective at a large enough range when rng kicks in big time, and then you can't hit anything with your own gun. And the pilots mobility is not meh at all and exposing your hull is normally a mistake especially when it's as weak as the SPs
200? in am sorry but no
Lower plate is a thing
btw, is the eagle 7 great? i saw it will be in the cristmas event
just aim at the upper portion of the ufp
Apply WG logic.
Is it free ? Yes ?
Thrn its crap.
@fast compass imagine doing this
That is literally the one small half decently armoured bit of the hull, above and below is 220 and 210mm respectively before normalisation
is the FV4202 line good?
@storm blade yes, apart centurion I
what about it?
comet is amazing, and with t9 and t10 you just need to stay HULLDOWN, not so much with 4202 because you only have 210 on the turret, peekaboo and spam HESH
interesting
but what about centurion mk1?
is it bad or something?
@storm blade it is poopoo
comet stay hulldown and use your amazing dpm, mk1 is just bad, no armor, apart gun mantlet, it's bad because it got powercrept by tier 8 premium meds, like mk5, chimera, progetto , defender mk1
ok yea thats bad
xd
It is in most urgent need of a buff among tier 8 meds
welp time to use all my gold for free xp again
yeah, like SP, pilot (tath needs a really big buff since it came out) pershing, and other meds
and maybe even panther2
Panther II is good enough after the armor buff, it become usable at least, and Pershing it surely needs some love.
Tier 8 tech tree meds have always been bullied. Still waiting for a buff on them, but we got td buffs instead 🤡
@balmy quest the difference is that the panther 2 has an actually useful gun. The SP gun is pure shist
xd
i just saw a weird looking Centurion.
I know that ATGM will be yeeted from main game mode. But why not considering make the Kpfz-70 has a separate cannon?
The main cannon could only load normal shells
The other cannon could load ATGM with nerfed stats. Could be unlocked by having 65k XPs
And of course, the cannon won't be able to be equipped in normal modes
No
n o
Are the RAAC crates worth it?
Gambling for any tier 8 tank in crates isn't a good idea, but it's your money.
@solid gate no
where is 4005 183mm gun?
I think T54e2 is better thank than Centurion Mk5/1. I think Drooles also mention this on his video. Comparing heavy to medium tank is weird of course but if you put them side by side in Blitzstart they are very similar with similar playstyle. Centurion slightly faster (5km/h), slightly better gun handling and better view range but T54e2 has almost double the alpha, better hull armour, more HP and the gun is actually pretty accurate. Both have impenetrable turret, similar DPM and 10 degree gun depression.
I think RAAC can be compared to t26e5
I have a request to each and everyone here who have a vk100.01 p, mauschen or maus with them and play them in uprising. If you ever get a chance, please take a screenshot of your vk/mauschen/maus using the lightningI or lightningII ability in uprising i want to make a meme on that pleasepray
Same playstyle, alwais hulldown, they bot have a really good turret, but 26e4 has better dpm, pen, armor, hps and alpha, but RAAC has better mobility and Wiew range, if you have t26e5 don't gamble
I have maus, but i didn't take any screenshot sorry :p
If you ever get a chance, pls dm me screenshot of your maus using the lightning ability in uprising please 🙏 maybe send replay of your maus in uprising
Well doesnt the t26 turret have some weak spots besides the cupola? I mean Centurion and T54e2 turrets are very much inpenetrabble besides the cupola.
No, roof it's not a weakspot on e5, not like on e4
Cupola is most, if not all, of the tanks weakspots, since it is meant to house a place for the commander to keep a lookout on the area. It needs to be thinly armored otherwise it will be so heavy that the hatch won't open
Guys if you have to choose a tonk among 2 wich would you choose?
Pilot1
Chimera
I just don't understand 1 thing. Why do these people make thick armor on the front medium armor on side and weak armor on back? Why don't they just cover the whole tank with verrry thick and sloped armor?
Chimera bugs me a lot it bounces shots frequently and has high dpm so i will choose chimera
Ofc, chimera is op pilot not even close to op
Guys ans pls🙏
@iron galleon doing that massively increases weight it’s severely underestimated just how heavy plates are
Seams like the Phantom debuff on the Smasher wasn't too bad by reducing its HE damage, makes the Smasher player have to use more AP then before which is a good thing. Wish they hadn't played with its Aiming though
Smasher nerfed? Where is the info?
When comes the Update??
Maus is heavy, then why isn't it covered with thick armor even at back?
@brisk jacinth might be mid-December, Christmas update.
@balmy quest i talked about that
Uh that is not how armor works @iron galleon
@iron galleon ok thank you
@brisk jacinth welcome
@strange thicket could you please elaborate?
@iron galleon you face tanks frontally not from the back
And it does have very good armor from the front and sides, as long as you angle it correctly
@iron galleon it is that’s why it weighs almost 200 tons
Just have to play it to see that HE is nerfed on the Smasher... roles have been cut in half, even though the info still is the same, and chances of Misses have gone way up. AP is still the same. Now HE most most common role is around 230, where before it was closer to 400, with the odd 1200. Now I've never seen a 1200 even on a light, but still getting one shots in with AP. It most definitely has been nerfed, for the better. Still a Cash Cow though... 🙂
Hence the "Phantom" Nerf, wasnt documented
@umbral forge you do realize the splash damage is dependent on the thickness you are shooting at right?
Smasher wasn't nerfed, it is still the same HE pen
And you get 1200 when you get maximum roll which is rng based
AP does not do enough damage to one shot tanks in that tier it most probably is an ammorack
Yes I know, HE damage has gone way down from before, which I dfo think is a good thing. It was nuts before where all you ever shot was HE, now you got to think allot more then before.
And Misses are also allot higher then before, snap shots are pretty well out of the question even with the Crew buffs maxed.
At least ladt week i think i was still getting mostly 300-400 damage shots with non pen HEs
@umbral forge nothing of what you said is a nerf
It is literally all rng
Ok, now merf annhilator, and FAST, because is ruining tier 7 even more than smasher, amazing armor, op dpm, op alpha, op speed with boost, the tank is just broken, i am not just complaining because i am gelaous of players wich have the tank, because... I actually have the tank, or we'll, had, i sold it, you know, i don't like to ruin a game, wg pls do something
Time to change your name?
And while they're at it, it wouldn't be such a bad idea to buff lights as well at tier 8 imo. Obviously we have the ru251 which is perfectly fine at it's tier, and decently difficult to play, so it's good. But other lights are sometimes a little on the neglected side imo.
Here is proof Smasher is nerfed... When else could you get a Mastery for on 4.2K damage...Sorry, were a little niave up here in Canada, not familiar with all your US problems...
On a different note, what is the opinion on Tier 7 right now? I mean, some of those tanks are seriously in need of a buff. Like SP1C for example. You can probably tell I'm biased toward the german light line at this point, lol, but still. That thing is not amazing. And that mastery is lookin' mighty fine, gg!
@umbral forge uhhhh
Do you even know how masteries work?
Really? I can't get over the sad acceleration. It is slower than the previous, (vk28.01) has less acceleration, less armor, and does just BARELY more damage.
Sure have to be above the 1% of all battles with that tank in the last week...
@umbral forge SP.1c. "spic" is a racial slur, don't call the tank that here.
It is? I didn't know that. Huh.
Indeed it is.
the more you know.
@umbral forge yeah that is correct
So you do realize that it is not entirely based on the tank's stats right?
Sorry, were a little Niave up here in Canada, not used to all your US problems
Yes, its dependant on the player base playing that tank.
He means that the Mastery is given out relative to the tank, and has nothing to do with the other tanks in the battle. The worst tank in the battle can get a mastery just as easily as the best. Or even easier if no one plays it.
Talking to @umbral forge btw
@umbral forge so yeah
How do ypu exactly conclude that the tank is nerfed when you get a mastery like that?
Because before you had to be well above 5K, and higher then 1400 points to get a mastery in the Smasher... now a measily 4.2k with 1351 points gets you one
That simply means people are tired of playing the tank, whether it is because it is op or not. Has nothing to do with stats. Look at win rate or the actual tank specs for that kind of thing.
@umbral forge yeah that is not related to the tank's stats it is related to how well people played it last week.
Good to see we are all agreeing... 😉
what is worst line to grind?
@storm blade is4
But the end is rewarding
well the start of the line is fine
you get the KV-2
the rest...
yea
really? Crap. I just recommended that line to a new player.
@storm blade well it is just imo
E4 also is a good line for that title
But jackson(or hellcat, both tanks are good anyway) and t30 are good
is it?
You want worst line? Go to US meds
@storm blade IS-4 line isn't great, but if you want to talk bad lines, 183 line is horrific, VK 72 line is also horrific, and so are the Japanese
Seriously, if General Patton was alive he would sue WG
yea i tried to go through the 183 line
i only felt pain
Lmao
People: Bruh AT series suck
Me seeing AT series bouncing more shells than Maus and getting a buff: Confused unga bunga
At2 is great, maybe even at8, but up from tier 7 the line is pure pain
either the line sucks or i suck
Well TDs are hard for nubs (I know from experience) but its not horrible
@solid gate only noobs bounce on ats, just look at the rd2ds on the roof, cmon is it so hard to shoot a gigantic cupola on a tank moving at the speed of a turtle?
wanna see hard for noobs, watch a noob play a light tank line that isn't russian, lol
It's hilarious
flashpack to me grinding out leo 1 when i started the game
That's literally me rn
i won a 1 v 1 vs a tortoise in a stock panther 2 cuz i could shoot to the cupola, wich was above his gun, so he couldn't hit me
Yeah the pain
Picking out one of the highest skill dependent line in the game when you barely know how to play
Yep. I knew what I was getting into though, and I have no regrets at all so far.
They are just Anti-Noob tank, if someone is smart enough he shoots at the cupolas, and then go back into cover, ez
Tortorise is meh but AT-2 is a torture to T5 after T1 heavy
I already got leo1
I love it
@strange thicket i have 62a, love it too, turret is lovely
Nice. I will be happy when I get there. I am starting a second account, so I had to restart my grind from square one, so I am just barely at vk28.01 rn
I saw AT 2's that literally barged into enemy team and won lol. Cupola is not that big
@solid gate then the enemy team was totally made of nabs, they could just shoot at his sides while it was focused on a tank, 5 shots and it's dead, it has no turret, no traverse, and no gun arch, so if there is a tier 5 plat of experienced player your at2 become totally useless.
Wait there's a T5 tank that can pen its sides?
Hmm... Every single tank at t5 except leo :p
Except it's not? I went to its sides with so many T5 and failed to side pen it
Thats like 2-3 months before tho lol so if a nerf happened idk
@storm blade It's not just you, the line is horrific
P A I N
183 tho
Lol, if you shoot at the spaced armor among the tracks... Then it's ur fault @solid gate
HESH intensifies
You have to shoot between tracks and the upper structure, or the upper structure as well, sides are weak
Today i circled a 183 in a grille
Lol
Bruh I circled it in waffle, costed almost all hp tho
Did you just say Tortoise is "meh"? It's beyond meh. It's bad to the point where it isn't enjoyable to play most of the time plus that there's no reason to play it over any other TD, aside from the DPM which is hard to use to begin with because of the poor armor that won't allow you to last for more than a minute if you get focused. Tortoise is bad imo
Considering the Tiger II can pen a Tortoises's cheeks easily as a heavy tank a tier below, I'd say that the Tortoise's armor is pretttyyy bad.
Phrasing it like that makes it seem like it has dpm that stands out ._.
In conclusion, it’s garbage
I will keep bringing this up aswell the loader for tortoise is literally in the giant weak spot
They are British
I actually love playing the tort but it's pretty damn terrible, the gun isn't really special apart from its cheap HESH and it's painfully slow and badly armoured. I'd say maybe a HESH pen, cheeks and a small all-round accuracy buff? Oh and give the loader a helmet or something so he doesn't die every time I go over a bump
They have to be fair to their enemies
Treating Tort’s gunner worse than IS-7’s ammo rack, nice
British can’t retreat that’s why
But in my opinion the tortoise is a breakthrough tank
Let’s forget that the Action X outclasses Caernarvon, and let Cent 5/1 outclass Cent I
Shark outclasses AX •_•
Hmmmmm, debatable
Anlihalator outclasses everything in it tier
Nah, smasher>anni
Smasher can HE annihilator if it tries to angle
K
Anni gets deleted by tier 8s, smasher deletes tier 8s
Sometimes you just need to go back to the SU-152 and carry games in it
Real fun tank sometimes
I cant deal with turretless tanks. So painful
I can, because I’m sniping, not poking corners
I just don't like the enemies deciding when I can shoot them.
Sounds like a hard preference to perform in
Nah, an armored heavy that can peek does the trick perfectly
A bit on the slowe side
H a h a
Love the Lowe
The turret and hull are in such a way that it can use cover to expose a sidescrape, hulldown, and upper plate only. It’s the perfect height to do this with terrain
Which equipment setup for e100?
The Lowe has a weakness for T49 flanks
the amx 30b needs a dpm buff
CaernAX? In what way it does?🤔 Please, verify😁
Turret armor hull and side armor and overall speed (even fire power)
Why is the fist on KV-2 menacing camo litarely the fist of power
is the e25 löwe bundle worth it? it seems like it to me
Alpha, mobility is virtually the same, and armor is far superior
dddpppmmmmm, The 500 DPM advantage of the Caern AX is very substantial
The ax will die, while the shark won't.
lets not forget that everyone has different play styles and likes different tanks
AX could ape 252u
I understand your position. I still think that dpm will hold sway😁... Thank you 👍
why does wg think it's ok to release paid tanks that are better copies than the tech tree ones. for example the STG: a better t34-2, the cent 5/1: a better cent I, t26e5: a better t32. like are they running out of ideas or are they just unable to come up with something original?? I understand they need money but they are just taking the easy path by cmd+c cmd+v tanks with better stats.
@visual hatch Do you prefer when their imagination runs wild with Smashers, Draculas and Annihilators?🤔🤣
At least they're sticking to real tanks that are usally balanced
They better shred 1951 before it comes out
That's what i think but i want VK 100.01 because 200 armor(inclined) at Tier VIII
Enhanced armor or improved assembly for e75?
Enhanced armor. The lower plate is a sketchy pen for many tanks, and armor will push it over the edge
Rammer or CS on E5?
Rammer. If you run CS, you might as well just play an IS-4
I can restore M3 Lee?
Yes as long as you have 150 gold check pinned for link @solid gate
For what
For amx deu
Do I buy the STA-1, or the T7 Jpn Td
And rn i have 58k free xp. What to use it on dependant on what line to commit to
Hmmmmm STA-1 for me
@solid gate i had both, why u ask?
To play amx dueo
Kinda too late, I had it
Ok I never had it
chi ri was lovely back when i had it
wonder how it performs now
^^ trash
no armor, bad penetration, subpar mobility, huge profile
the only somewhat decent thing is the gun, because clipping tier 6s for 480 is fun, but against most equal tier and all higher tier opponents you are basically a ~1.2k HP piñata
Centurion 5/1 gun is the same with action x gun right, OQF 20 pdr gun type b barrel
why AX gun is tier 8 gun and cent 5/1 tier 9 gun on modules icon
Same gun but different stats. And the tier designation is pretty meaningless.
Ax gun became insulted, although ax gun have better stats
@next solstice depends the chi to spg is a great td the sta 1 is a weak tank but you need it for unlocking the STB
I have a request to each and everyone here who have a vk100.01 p, mauschen or maus with them and play them in uprising. If you ever get a chance, please take a screenshot of your vk/mauschen/maus using the lightningI or lightningII ability in uprising i want to make a meme on that please
Did anyone manage to get one?
Can anything pen the cupola of the fv215b
yes, hit the bottom half that isnt rounded otherwise you'll bounce
Nerf please the annihilator its broken as hell
Not agreed , it has weakspots and over range it does not hit well targets . That tank is close combat , in the open it’s a sitting duck
If chief mk6 will be in blitz fair, is it likely to be cheaper/more expensive than the 30b in the store currently for 15k gold?
It will always be more expensive to buy during blitz unfair than any other time of the year
Oh look someone is trying to justify annihilator isn't op
It’s not op... it’s broken...
It is both really. ~660 clip in less than a second unload time is broken for tier 7 regardless of other stats especially with the lack of after shot dispersion for the second shell. A clipper with that much payload and armour is overpowered for the tier
Should note the dpm is literally around 2.7k which is insane for the tier not to mention the annihilator gets a super speed consumable (wonder what excuse wargaming has for that) and even without the boost anni cannot be circled
The tiger 1 has like 2.4k dpm I think. And the bp has like 3k. Tier 7 has a lot of high dpm tanks
Difference is they have a lot of downsides that must be accounted for anni straight up is invulnerable when paired with another
I'm not agreed too don't need nerf just delete it, it's ruining tier 7 with smasher too
nerf anni pen by a 100 and then done
imagine having a noble tank
I mean, keep in mind that the KV-1S can literally just take off 400 in a single shot, and it’s a T6
Yeah, with horrendous accuracy and the worst Dpm of tier 6.
rhm best for solo q?
JP II is better for Solo, and can carry better because of its mobility.
But in the end Borsig and JP II needs to rely on their team, because it's team dependent.
oh
rhm is flippin good
How do u open up the mode where you can see amrour of veichles?
Yey
To be fair, peek-and-boom isn’t really conducive to DPM in the first place, and the accuracy usually isn’t that much of a problem in practise
Guys since I have the Sheridan,I will get it collector version right?
Also will the t92 have a collector?
T92E1 wont get a collector but it will get a camo
and yes if you have the sheridan then you will get the collector sheridan
Ok thanks
What was the last time we got a historical looking legendary camo?
Was it the chimera E75 ts?
Perhaps T-44 Exceptional Fighter?
The panther is amazing. Super high reload time. What provisions would you run on it
@untold stirrup nah, thata an old camo
I think tiger 2
Maybe Combat Star?
Right now im grinding the japanese line, and whenever I run a tank for the first time, even in pubs, i'm facing tanks that are always a tier higher and I'm far from being fullyupgraded either.
This has happened in both my t7 medium and td. Is this normal? I never had this problem before with other lines.
And pubs as in randoms matches
Yeah me too, first game on few tanks, got a higher tier matchmaking, i became lower tier with new tank
Is8 is a great tank
Probably my favourite heavy at t9 since i can play armour less tanks
Its gun and mobility is similar to meds
How do you play lttb
run second gun, if you neewb (the one with 8° of depression)
go to early ambush position, spot and shoot target when they almost behind cover (so your spotting marker isn't detected in enemy view range)
flank, or fight other low armored tank or be a nuisance to enemies after flanking them and spanking them until they turn toward u or start chasing
then relocate and repeat
Got it ! ✊🏻
You can also play like a medium if you wish to do so
It’s got no armor lmao I can get one shorted by 152 or kv
Well, same goes for a lot of mediums, but still the turret is decently armoured to bounce a few shots when peeking, although you shouldn’t rely on it
This may be the wrong place for it, but my cool down isn't over on the balance channel. But do you guys think that lights in general at tier 7+ need a buff? I kinda think so, though I'm biased.
This is the right place for that, unless you want to have a slight off-chance of having devs read your post
Heavies need a nerf. That would be a solid buff to lights
To answer your question, no, I don’t think so. The high tier lights are very versatile and work out great if the player who plays them knows what he does. I think the light class is a class that provides a challenge while still allowing you to be competitive, and I think the current lights do that well
Ah ok
Well yeah, I do play lights. But sometimes I feel they are seriously lacking. And yes, of course they have the highest skill floor, they are hard to play. They should be. But I still feel like they need to be more effective.
And really this applies to the Leo 1 too, I feel it is basically a light.
Yes, I agree, if anything the heavies should be nerfed. The power creep should not be continued and instead the changing tides of buffs and nerfs should take over. The highly mobile heavies threaten the niches of mediums and lights alike. If that is to stop then heavies need to be nerfed, and mediums and lights need not to be buffed
The Leopard 1 is such a pain to play currently, it hurts me to see that tank being so bad
Really? All the top youtubers say it is fantastic, and I have seen many normal players do exceedingly well with it. It is hard to play, yeah, but the preceding grind does prepare the player well for it from what I understand.
Hey! I purshased the e25 it is excellent but I feel not confortable with it.
Have you some tricks to play it better?
Sell it and buy leo 1
Jk jk, lol
I find the leo to be one of the best meds. Nothing can beat it in long range engagements. It just picks things apart, and does not have the pathetic alpha and depression of the Soviet meds
My personal opinion of top 3 meds:
Stb
Leo
Prog
A versatile and dangerous Group of tanks you’ve chosen but as I say it matters not of the tank but of the players but I do agree with you there those tanks seem to be the best ones rn
Well, I first want to make it clear that this is my personal opinion. With that out of the way, I want to claim that the Leopard 1 has nothing that makes it significantly better than other tanks. In particular I want to look at things that give it advantages in tank on tank combat. In order to support that claim I will lay a broader basis of statement which I consider true, however I want you to keep in mind that those are also only my opinion. So let’s get started:
- Circle of death doesn’t work against the vast majority of tanks.
- You need at least -2s difference in reload to be able to not trade 1 for 1 every time you peek
- You can spot anyone across half the map unless they are behind a bush
- Everything is accurate, and accuracy is just a number
If you accept these things as true you will soon find the Leopard 1 to be rather lacking in tank on tank combat against almost any tank. Keep in mind that it’s also HE-able, which further decreases its combat effectiveness against high alpha tanks in particular (which are also the only tanks it can reasonably outtrade)
The reason why these points are an issue to the Leopard 1 now:
- Heavy buff
- Power creep (high dpm heavies and reload buffs to numerous meds)
- Just the way it has always been
- Power creep (Provisions and equipment)
What this translates to is hiding, hiding, hiding and hiding, and effectively ‘sniping’. Everyone bullies you in med brawls and you need to run from always anyone because a direct engagement would cost too many hp
Leo 1 only suits a certain playstyle. And it doesn't work for newer or less experienced players. You need to be confident about what you are doing. Or it vaporates from the battlefield.
Ooo if they added the 430u
WZ-121 will be made obsolete over night of it’s anything like on PC
@kindred wren what are your thoughts on tds currently? Because I view the leopard 1 as the best TD
Ooo or the centurion Mk 12
Not really a counter argument to what he said
His points still stand and are correct
Meds are just Allrounder, well that’s my opinion
I know, just curious
Thanks to the strong heavies, camping is actually a very viable and effective strategy. I think TDs are an important counterweight to the heavies, particularly due to the usually high alpha and high accuracy even over long distances.
If I were to classify the Leopard 1 as a TD, I would regard it as a mobile Grille 15 with less alpha. It would be a very competitive flanking td that just smokes enemies from afar
Wait is wz-122-1 a thing in wot
And that’s actually basically what I do with it, I try to play the Leopard 1 second line, sniping left and right and only rush in when the game ends. I find that rather unsatisfying though
@kindred wren imagine the KpfPz-70 as a TD.... damn.... that dmg would be too insane....
Awww it isn’t they should add that tank
WZ-122-1?
Yes
Picture pls
It’s a Chinese medium
Hmmm. I see.
The way that I play I like to determine when I have shots on my terms. I dont have the patience to do the td campy thing and wait for the enemies to come to me. I'm guess I'm just way too aggressive.
I used to play very aggressive (I took literally anything to the frontline), but my playstyle changed and I got worse so I can’t pull it off anymore, so I take third line positions more frequently (camping spots)
Wz 122-4 was a prototype it was the Chinese Leo
I like the leopard because it can go wherever the heck it wants rapidly, and it has a really powerful gun.
But yea... dont mind me as I frontline with an isu.
Can you send me a few Leopard 1 replays please?
I desperately look for effective ways to play it that don’t include literally sitting that far back that people will shoot your team instead of you
Oh boy, imma have to play some matches then
I can see it there’s a lot of different modules of tanks man the wz 122-1 had the same suspension has the stb supposedly
Might be an interesting candidate for a premium, but I doubt that they will find enough tanks to make it the top of a tech tree
Unless they just pull a FakeTank move again and simply make them up because they’re cool like that
You know what I want action x medium in there
Lol, and you can autobounce people on the front of the leo
I know, whenever that happens I have a big smile all over my face
Just baited a poor standard b twice in a row
Can someone tell me which mt line to go for (I just researched 62a)
Depends on what you are looking for
@pliant viper e50m line if you are a newer player
I have around 3.5k battles
Good mobility,good pen
Leopard 1 😂 although that is not a good recommendation for a new player
You can try the WZ-121(accuracy makes up for the pen) or STB-1
Fair armor on both
Is Centurion line good?
I mean maybe
I didn't try it, all i know is cent mk1 is stinky
I'll go for it
Be careful
Remember bois, enable replays after updates
Why
Because he didn't XD
It’s good it fun but with the new light it’s just inferior to the fv and with the new cent Mk 5/1 it’s just plain irrelevant now
550 meter shots are basically instant hits with a supercharged leo1
Is the T14 worth getting?
@coral ridge it depends on how skilled you are because it's not one of the easiest heavies to play
It's a great tank with troll armor, cool acceleration, reliable turret (against tier 5), fast fire cannon and good gun depression, but the hull armor depends a lot of sidescraping and angling
The only problems are that your armor will always be gray on the frontal part if your enemy have a decent penetration, the penetration is quite bad (so take at least 20 APCR if you want to do well) and the max speed is a big limit for your acceleration
Hmm, if you were to recommend a tier V premium what would it be?
If I have to recommend a tier 5, then I have to recommend KV-220BT
Didn't the Type 62 used to be tier 5? It's tier 6 now I think. Idk.
I’ve had my eye on the E2 but I don’t think that claiming that is possible at the moment
KV-220BT is pretty rare, but extremely OP armor, much faster reload
100mm of frontal armor (the effective is around 120-160mm), 100mm side and the only real weakspot is the turret
It's also pretty cheap tho, but only appears once or twice per year
@median relic Type 62 was always a tier 7, I guess you meant Type 64
Oh maybe I was thinking of a type 64. I do mean type 62 though, so I was just wrong about that.
Type 64 was always a tier 6
Well, both of them were always on their own tiers
As I know, the only tier 5 that became tier became tier 6 is Chaffee
Question: I have 587k Elite EXP in the 252U, and I need 78k Elite EXP and 788k credits to get to level 5 of robustness. Will it take the 78k Elite EXP from the 587K in the 252U? Or will it take 78k equally from all heavies I have??
I have no idea
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How do I play my new panther?
Wg should swap FV 183 with FV217 badger
Can somebody answer my question plz? I really need an answer.
@solid gate too late for that they already made badger collector for $$$
The best you could hope for is Super Tortoise which I doubt WG will even consider developing just to replace 183 and turn it into a collector
@untold stirrup I know but they can make 183 blue too. And badger is more accurate to that line cuz whole line ist turretless... and FV217 is more balanced than 183.
In normal wot is 183 premium I think. Replaced with FV4005 stage 2
217 more balanced than 183? I guess if you consider how hard it punishes you for overextending, then it's more balanced. 183 is very situational yet influential if it can position itself within it's team correctly. Badger on the other hand just has thick frontal armor that can hold or push a flank
Well, not that Badger doesn't already need a hull traverse buff as is...
But 183 has no armor, no camo %. Only great gun. When enemies spot u, u r dead. And they can't buff it because haters will say it's too OP and they can't nerf it too cuz lovers will say that wg killed a "good" tank. I mean, as premium X or collector it will be a good. And 217 is more accurate to that line imo. It makes more sense for me. Like in USSR line to obj. 268... u start grinding turretless TD and u get turretless TD tier X. In UK it's kinda weird
what could I buy with 7.5k gold
or should I save it
Save it for Christmass sales
when is christmas
24.12 maybe? 🤔
I dont think 7.5k is enough for auction
😩
It is... trust me
I forgot the tank prices drop every 2 hrs
🙂 right...
183 is balanced as is, just really easy to die in it. It's like a tier 10 KV-2 but the positioning factor cranked up to 11 when it comes to camping
Sometimes (9 of 10 games) is hard to get good position before your teamates die
He has a point.....
Well yeah, the terrain resistances are the worst of any tank in the game. I wouldn't mind if they gave a small buff to that so it could actually reach it's top speed on flat ground but ya know no one likes being on the receiving end
Yea true. But small buff is needed. I think that maybe more buffs but that mobility is horrible. That tank need positioning to get great results and deal great support to your teamates. But when u get that position.. half of your team is dead so onli thing what u can do is wait for end of game. And this is main problem... as I said. 9 of 10 games
If they gave 4005 the Stage II 183mm QFL4 cannon then I can see WG considering balance changes for the 183
Stage 2 and 183 has same guns.. or? 🤔 I dunno right now.. but I think so
@solid gate yes
I mean same type not caliber
Oh well...
why isnt the tonk is wot?
Finally got the FV4005, great tank ngl
Dracula.
Hi?
Friend?
Hey you guys, which one would you recomend? Buying the ARL44 and focus on French tree, or buying STRV74 and focusing on EU tree??
Well u can go to french tree if you want some fast heavy with clip gun or to EU tree if you want some clip gun and some thick turret armor. Ur choice @brazen tangle (i recommend EU tree and get urself emil 1, cuz its still op rn)
Sure :D
Question: I have 587k Elite EXP in the 252U, and I need 78k Elite EXP and 788k credits to get to level 5 of robustness. Will it take the 78k Elite EXP from the 587K in the 252U? Or will it take 78k equally from all heavies I have??
Perhaps it would be fun to see the FLAK Panzer E 100 , double 8.8flakgun with elevation of 90 degrees depression of just 4 degrees . It would be like a heavy tank that rapidly killed light and less armored td but useless vs most heavy tanks and td
Guess it’s advantage comes to work in rough terrain due elevation
I think that’s one of the most bizarre ideas I’ve heard far from the absolute worst
I quite often see these bizarre idea having a "screw lightly armoured tanks particularly" element to it.
Almost like there’s a pattern
Is the Sheridan line good? (Im talking even after ATGMs is gon)
Yes imo
What kinda playstyle do u have to play it
Peek a boom, flanker, assassinator, ambusher.
The big alpha on a LT let's you be a good ambusher and can assassinate tanks quite nicely because even if you're forced to trade you'd win it just not when it comes to doing it towards 640 alpha tank, the alpha is nice but you never wanted to get your own HP bleed before end game.
Ty
Guys will they give 4005 the 183 mm gun?
They confirmed they won’t
Nah they won't add it to the game... one death star in game is enough
yeah, i think 4005 is deadlyer like now, and in the hand of a good player is better 1000 times than the fv, has quicker reload, petter pen with pramo, better mobility, better clip damage
Is the leopard 1 worth the grind? I could buy the pta and i know it needs its modules free xp-d to be actually worth using without ruining my terrible winrate even more but i would like to know if its actually worth it to get the leo 1
a lot of players just look at the damage and think: haha tonk go boom, and doesn't look at other stats, every thing about the deathstar except apha damage is litterally crap,on 4005 is all great apart armor
Yes, 183 has nothing except great gun
yeah, i recommend new players to grind neither the 183 (crappy) neither the 4005 (experienced players only) , i have 4005 (i don't even want to feel all tath pain to grind the ATs to get a crappy 183) and if you do a single mistake you will be punished for it, just grind 268, or maybe wz113
I grinded 183 line.. only one tank was good. Tortoise. When I play 183 it's nightmare. I can't get good position to camp and deal support earlier than half of my team is dead. 1 shot and I'm spotted... and dead
and btw, if you know how to play the 4005 line is lovely, while the 183 like is.. pure pain
maybe at2 at15 apart, at15 is playable rn
Nah
even at15 is still crap?
how do we get mixed nation tanks like the annihilator and the deacula
Whole line is crap mate
@blazing bloom you pay (?)
yes but pay what to who or where and how much
At15 is decent now. You can't get pushed on without melting tanks that do push you. But quite situational and pretty much dead if it is caught out in the open
@blazing bloom You pretty much have to wait for them to be in store.
can u dm me a whole list of those multi country tanks that can be bought with ingame currency? and their tiers
Can anyone list out some tanks that are the best for ratings?
Emil I
IS-4
CR
268
Some of my list.
Cool! Tier 8 is special for me, could you please tell me some tier 8 recommendations for ratings? I can't afford tier 9 and 10 tanks
If you can't afford tier 9 and 10 then I suggest that ratings is not for you...
Yeah please i also need. I know only 7, and those 7, are prems/collectors.
T55A- russian-german
Pz58- german-swiss
Ac1 Sentinel and Centurion 5/1- British-Australian
Strv 74a2- Swedish-Egyptian
M4 FL10- American-Egyptian
M4 revalorise- French-American
If there are any more, pls tell me🙏
Ummm, may ik why? What about emil 1? Can e100 be a ratings devastator? If i grind for tier 9, December season will end
Cent 5/1 is kinda nice for ratings if you like the beefed up cent, and T-55A is a solid medium, you can play ratings in that tank but need to be more cautious on your armor profile, because you're not facing againts some random pubs matches MM, when you past gold league.
He also meant that if you can't afford any single T10 tech tree tank meaning that you're not eligible enough towards ratings since you need more experiences through the game and knowledge's because In ratings it's either you messing around being a burden to your sweaty tryharders who gonna aim for leaderboard any day a week, or playing well and learning while also trying to keep up with the big boys clan players who plays ratings for their basis intake. @iron galleon
Yeah basically that ^
Ratings is much more competitive than randoms. Everyone has a first rating battle at some point, but to save the rest of your team from disappointment and yourself from their rage it's much much better to go in with experience
@iron galleon Uhm... the FL10 turret is French as far as I know
anyone have tips for AMX ELC bis ?
Electric biscuit yes it's fun the tank cannot just rush and side hug a person unless they're alone, it's a great flanker but need some knowledge as low tiers nimbos are roaming or seal clubber who gonna stop you from making plays.
Prob because egyptian has the 13-75 tonks from french then it's their property maybe.
Yeah, the FL-10 is a French design and was also produced by the French
@glass relic oh ok. But as far as i know, t8 is the best for ratings.
@thick trout no i don't do that. I have a significant contribution in ratings
@kindred wren that's why it is multi-national
Any more recommendations please?
@iron galleon I did not question whether it’s multi-national. I questioned it being called Egyptian
Anyways i was answering to @blazing bloom
So?
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Nothing leave it. Just pls tell me recommendations for ratings
i dunno any of those
Oh, ok
You thinking you have a significant contribution is not the same as you actually having a significant contribution...
I have over 1000 damage and atleast 2 tanks destroyed each ratings
You should aim to deal your tanks hp in damage as a very rough guide...
Oh.. thanks
All the multi-national vehicles I could find:
Ram II: Canada - USA
KpfPz 70: USA - Germany
Sherman Firefly: UK - USA
59-Patton: China - USA
Type 64: China - USA (they used US-American parts)
M4A1 Revalorisé: France - USA
FCM 36 Pak 40: Germany - France
Prototipo Standard B: Italy - Germany
Stridsvagn 74A2: Sweden - France
M4/FL10: France - USA (for Egypt)
Not really multi-national but somewhat close:
Churchill III: UK (Soviet techtree)
Matilda IV: UK (Soviet)
Loza’s M4-A2 Sherman: USA (Soviet)
Tetrarch: UK (Soviet)
M3 Light: USA (Soviet)
Valentine II: UK (Soviet)
Pz.Kpfw. B2 740 (f): France (Germany)
Pz.Kpfw. S35 739 (f): France (Germany)
T-25: Czech (Germany)
Panther/M10: Germany (Germany, disguised as an M10 Wolverine)
Panzer 58: Switzerland (Germany)
Indien-Panzer: Germany (Germany, designed for India)
Pz.Kpfw. 38H 735 (f): France (Germany)
Pz.Kpfw. 35 (t): Czech (Germany)
Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t): Czech (Germany)
Pz.Kpfw. 38 (t) n.A.: Czech (Germany)
T-15: Czech (Germany)
leKpz M 41 90 mm: USA (Germany)
Hetzer: Czech (Germany)
Sentinel AC I: Australia (UK)
Sentinel AC IV: Australia (UK)
Sherman V: USA (UK)
Centurion Mk. 5/1 RAAC: UK (UK, with modifications made for Australia)
Angry Conner: UK (UK, but with Irish skin)
Tiger Kuromorimine SP: Germany (Germany but anime)
IS-2 Pravda: USSR (USSR but anime)
Panzer IV Ankou Special: Germany (Germany but anime)
Firefly Saunders SP: USA - UK (USA - UK but anime)
Hetzer Kame SP: Czech (Czech but anime)
IS-2: USSR (China)
Type 2597 Chi-Ha: Japan (China)
Type T-34: USSR (China)
Vickers Mk. E Type B: UK (China)
LT vz. 38: Czech (China)
M5A1 Stuart: USA (China)
Vickers Mk. F: UK (Finland)
T-55A: USSR (Blitz Nation)
Nightmare: Germany (Blitz Nation)
Note that just a significant part of the modules of the ‘multi-national tanks’ are from different nations. If you were to ask for jointly developed tanks you’ll only get the KpfPz 70 and the Prototipo Standard B
T55a is real, russian german tank. And bruh you are too good to right this salute you👍👍
Also, chinese tanks are hand me downs of ussr, especially the tier 8 heaviees and td
Can anyone list out some tanks that are the best for ratings?
Find it out yourself. Hundreed ppl = hundreed tastes. Try some tanks that suits to you. Don't be copy pasta
does anyone know how to change the patterns of a tank?
You mean the camouflage? Or the base paint?
base paint
You sadly can’t change that
oh...
Use mods and kablam done.
ok
StrikeEagle101 [N2G]#2396 has been warned.
What?! Whyyy omggg
Lol
Hey i had said this earlier and am saying now too. Please someone send me a ss of a vk100.01p, mauschen or maus using the lightning ability in uprising, be it your vk, mauschen or maus or an enemy using the ability. Please i request you all to help me a little i want to make my first meme🙏🙏
Need tips on how to play Ho-Ri TIII for dummies, my brain is dying on that thing rather than the TII version.
Ho-Ri Type III is a support tank it doesn't have super high alpha and health so trading isn't recommended for the most part.
The shells are the main attraction, they will cut through just about any tank like butter, even a maus. Don't be afraid to use mostly premium shells, you lose only 15 alpha.
You should be focusing on the heaviest armor first as you can save your allies the grief of having ricochets and non-penetrations. It's very mobile you so can easily run with the mediums, just be aware that the size can be a bit problematic at times. The armor isn't dependable, but it's good enough to block shells here and there. Do not angle in it because it is very easy with the high hull traverse to over angle.
Sniping is very feasible in this tank as well
Yeah but maybe i should go with supercharger than gld? For supportive play.
Nah, 880 shell velocity on the prammo is fine
Well it is workable but dunno, i might need time to adapt to the tank itself.
I just suck at TD since I'm a Hybrid of Medium lights player now, so i need to master some TD skills to be jack of all trades.
Already maxed.
Rush the camo skill
smooth turn
Smooth turn might be my next stop, clutch breaking is almost maxed
I might try the tips thanks, hopefully it'll make my brain become healthy than before, since its my first bulky TD that I play.
Not to mention that I grinded 113gft line out of boredom, idk if it was a good idea.
Eh
It's pretty mediocre
It suffers from the Patton role of "something does it better"
I'm still at 111gft, it's fun but the armor is just wack since cannot be angled.
Yeah.. 268 exist I'm grinding it, rn at ISU I've gotten used to it's Playstyle so kinda happy that i can be at least useful TD than just being ambusher for lots of time.
I also somehow love the 111-1gft
268 has better mobility
E3 is better as a place holder
Jg E 100 is better as a brawler
Honestly, now that E3 goes 35km/h, and has the speed boost, E3 might just straight up be more mobile
I already knew the top speed is 3kph higher but still much slower
I lost interest on E3 grinds because I can't deal with T28 suffering that much.
The super speed boost is temporary so basically temporary mobility cannot be exploited a lot tho.
Well i should stop playing my 111gft 😂, i just can't stop playing it, prob i went through the honeymoon phase again but instead it's just a hallucinations effect where i couldn't get enough meme'ing with the chinese brick tank.
Hello, i need some tips, i wanna get better at the borsig and the stuerer.
My borsig is still at 75% crew bc I don't have gold so I need to play a hindered tank
My win rate is 49.14 and i wanted to boost it a bit ...
Kinda scared that getting Jageroo might cause myself some regret, the Playstyle of sluggish well armored is kinda putting myself in a skeptical situation.
If you want to boost your wr get Emil I and just go hulldown.
Wow, i meant with the tanks i have, that I happened to mention above
The borsig and st emil
Oh well i guess just be an efficient sniper and support vehicle by taking out vital targets like enemy super heavy, you don't have armor so just abuse your camo n snipe from distance, being glass cannon kinda sucks but it's fun the for the challenge.
You're a TD so no one gonna blame a TD for camping anyway.
Most valuable crew skill after precision fire and camo?
Every tank should have different guns/turrets/parts which change the way it plays, for example the same tank could use a slower turret with more alpha damage or a faster one with less damage. Some tanks do, others only add stuff for you to grind.
?
Sheridan needs a huge dpm buff
It really doesn’t
It definitely doesn't.
You’re clearly playing it terribly if you’re trying to out DPM stuff
I want to ask, can anyone get onto world of tanks blitz North America server?
@reef oyster it’s down for me
More legendary camos when?
Yeah, before making legendary camos for premiums, all important tecg tree tier 10 should have it's camo@empty crater
Anything below tier 6 is disinteresting IMO. Although I don't play below tier 8
It's a pre 5.5 tier 3, it's only useful for training rooms and trolling @edgy bolt
I know that
Then why do you keep playing it? Just to complain about it?
But it would be fun to play random games again if they buffed HE pen. Rn you literally can’t do anything.
I like to play my collector vehicles. What’s the point of having them if you never play them.
Well, show them up on training rooms
Last year I bough Groß but nowadays it have only 2 uses, show up in training rooms cuz it's a quite rare tank and sell for 1200 gold
The same goes for my LTP, which is even more rare than Groß nowadays
Is there a server problem outage right now ? I’m in the North American Region and I can’t get on. It says “
“You have been disconnected by the server”. What does that mean ?
It’s been that way for almost 2 hours.
I've kinda got the same thing except it tells me that someone with the same account info is in game right now, which is false
That’s a really wierd message.
Yeah, it happened after the server crashed, so I'm assuming it's server issues and not something else, but I've been locked out for like 4 hours now. I can play just fine on my second account as well, which is funny
That is wild. It’s got to be server issues. I see now 2 posts starting about 4 hours ago that these guys had server issues as well
Yeah, that's when the server crashed
Mine started around 3 eastern time
It all crashed at the same time. I was playing when it crashed.
rn its ~7:30
i wwonder if they are gonna add main battle tanks like th leopard
same here says someone with the same name is in game atm
so between, t49, emil, rhm, isu 152, ru251, lttb, what should i get as a more fun tank
T49
T49
Wait till the end
T49. My favorite tank to play. Only problem is you have to use HE only, which costs more. But flying and derping is so much fun !
guys help. Leo --> Emil 1, im dying
It's mandatory training the skills crew at 100% of the sheridan to recieve the special sheridan or only just unlock with exp?
Just research it
can you added some modern tanks?
The already did
What is Fv183 good for?
it is good for loosing credits, losing average damage, losing average winrate but having fun
found replay, lemme verify
Hmmmmmm
Is the line a hard grind?
tank only has high damage per shot and semi rotateable turret
it doesn't have any other strengths
So its a hard grind
yea, but recent buffs to AT tanks have made overall grind easier
@lime rapids my 183 had birthday yesterday, took it out for spin, you won't earn credits in this tonk
yeah, you have to find situations to use it
E3s is impennable to majority of tanks
e3 cupola is not a weak point lol
@solid gate i'm not talking about front armor im talking about cupola
Please make the Sheridan "sidewinder" camo a little bit cheaper it's hard expensive😔
if you think 300mm+ effective cupola is weak then you're straight up wrong
What's the easiest tier 10/ X, to go for if you ppl opinion?
e100 line
E100 line
got really good tanks across the line
Lol I am so hard stuck at the E75
Can't get the good cannon😔😭 should I just keep trying?
do you have free xp?
Around 30k rn
and youve got the turret?
Ye only need good cannon
grind it out. good reward
And how do I get in to the game? When I'm trying to login it says a different player whit the same nickname is online
Are you logged in on another device?
No
Then contact the wargaming player support
I never heard of that error before to be honest
I already did 2 days ago still no answer yet😭 but also I could try to contact them again but idk what to say
They will answer eventually, the long waiting time just means that they have no clue either XD
Ehm, you should censor your e-mail
Ik but I can change everything and I can just yeah idk I think I've lost my acc😭🤷♂️
Wait, are you in the right region? It says you logged into the Russian region today
bruh
Yea I got my acc on Russian and na I had to create Russian as well BC my friend started on the wrong server😂 it's a high ping tho
wish you could change servers and keep ur progress
Yea could be nice
Should I make a new acc or something? And start all over? And have I lost my acc? Like 100%
wait for support to respond
Wait for the answer of the support first
Ok
Seems like we have the same phone 👀
A Huawei 30 lite? Or what its called?
Oh nvm then
Oki
imagine sealclubbing
Call me master 😁