#vehicles-discussion

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wise moth
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Also, protective kit is only really useful on tanks that blow up, since other module damage is usually easily dealt with using a repair kit. Given that most people run double rep kits, and they're usable several times throughout the battle, protective kit is mostly useless

glass relic
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Double kit & adrenaline + Epic cooldown boosters is fun.

spark basin
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got it

bronze swan
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Any hint to play amx 13 90? And then go for engine or track first?

lime rapids
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is fv183 good with doubleshoot in uprising?

hollow belfry
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183 isn’t good and doubleshot isn’t good neither no matter the tank. Now pair both and guess how good it is

glass relic
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You want to hit the ground or sky?

teal swallow
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the price?

karmic nymph
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Last year I think it was possible to earn 1 globe for free

glass relic
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Now it's 2, then hope for no inflation's like clementines.

jolly obsidian
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ebr in wot Blitz ?

solid gate
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Won’t happen

hollow moth
deep girder
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Ok so I’m kinda new to the game (been playing for 6 months) and would like to know what’s better, the is7 line or the is4 line (I’ve narrowed it down to those for my first tier x)

thick trout
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IS4 is a long grind that gets cut down if you research guns on the IS7 line so go for that line first even though the IS4 is a better tank than the IS7 @deep girder

deep girder
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Thank u

solid gate
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It would be nice to have one desert gamo more to buy with gold. I have only few tanks having gold desert gamos.

deep girder
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Lol tank u

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When u say bye u should say kv2

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I’m tier vi rn and my worst nightmare in my kv1s and t3485 is seeing a kv2 pull around the corner

storm robin
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For the Vk 36, should I run the 88mm or the 75mm waffe? 88mm has 145mm of pen, 220 alpha, and a 8.5 sec reload - the 75mm waffe has 157mm pen and 160 alpha, but has a 6.1 sec reload

red sonnet
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I play with the 8.8cm. It's really punchy and it's only rearly that my shells bounce, the 75 or is it 76? Is just a tad more accurate with higher pen. It depends on your playstyle tbh but I'd recommend the 8.8cm

solid gate
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I'm grinding Kranvagn line.. now I'm on Emil II.. q. is: is Kranvagn better than Emil II or it's same?

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Btw everything on Emil is in top even 9 slots. So if there is some differences... which ones?

hollow notch
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@solid gate turret armor and pen are the only differences. The emil 2 is bouncy, but the kran is impenetrable

solid gate
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Uh. Okay thank u

idle surge
brave night
balmy wagon
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Did obj 263 worth to grind?

hollow notch
frozen moat
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Lol

meager bear
brave night
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@hollow notch is that with CS

hollow notch
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@brave night obviously

undone fern
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Lol

pliant lodge
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Can WG please remove the weakspot on the mantlet and the gun? I just got penetrated and damaged by someone shoooting my damn gun. Like on my gun. Not into it. Just on it

brave gale
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This is troll the jg E100 side armor says u can pen it but its not can you fix it

fast compass
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Hitskins have always been fairly inaccurate. Just don't trust them

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Not sure how it will ever be 100% fixed when there is rng to pen numbers

bronze zodiac
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What do you think about e75 ts, and how to play with it

radiant coral
low rampart
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@storm robin I use the 75 mm gun with 157 pen and then the equipment which increases pen, gives it 167 mm penetration which is good for a heavy tank.

unique dragon
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My t32 Isn’t a Sup

solid gate
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It is a boat 😅

balmy wagon
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Any tips for obj 140?

unique dragon
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It Drowns easily per Than Expected

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Every day on this map -_-

solid gate
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I once drowned on purpose

unique dragon
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In this tank

solid gate
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Lmao

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Best tip: Delet game and spam f for money u spent on it

next solstice
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why are you in the water in the first place

somber bluff
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Wish the T95 had the armor profile like before

brisk fable
scarlet echo
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Is there a way to get premium event tanks back I accidentally mines when I was checking the sell price and my brother hit me and I press sell by mistake

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Need link

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K thx

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How do you get tickets??

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It's not showing progetto 46

barren heath
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If you dont find it in the list; you either never had it or you didnt play a game in it in ratings or normal games. A tank without at least 1 game in it wont show up in VRT and is gone forever.

scarlet echo
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I played the progetto 46 over 100 battles at least

barren heath
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Okay then I would suggest you file a ticket to WG; because it should show up in VRT

scarlet echo
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It's saying still processing

gentle wasp
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wait a day or two, the tanks take time to show up

scarlet echo
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Ok thx

barren heath
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Yes usually within 24 hours

earnest mantle
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@barren heath I never played a game in my fcm before I sold it and wg let me restore it

barren heath
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@earnest mantle weird; then this has changed since I couldnt restore a tank before that I never played in an actual game. Good thing though and I stand corrected in that case

coral canopy
solid gate
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That just shows how broken the tank has become to need that much xp for a mastery.

candid harbor
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well you driving a tank which even tier 1 bots would kick someone's butt in

minor mica
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Does the t92e1 have a bit of troll armor ?

candid harbor
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front is 45mm sloped at 65° and small section of front is 72°
which is auto ricochet for anything of gun caliber of 135mm or smoler
@minor mica

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just aim directly at gun (i mean gun mantlet) with your ap or apcr rounds, ez pen while knocking its gun out

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on flat ground lower part of front is about 87mm effectively thick, so you can even use HE if you got that pen

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rear of tank is super weak, anything can pen with HE at its tier

hollow notch
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*until the gun eats your shell

candid harbor
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it can't xd

umbral moth
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How much is the FV215B camo with the Black Friday sale?

minor mica
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Ah thanks @candid harbor makes sense since it bounced my t54e2 shell on a sloped hill

analog bluff
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b

deep girder
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Ok: is kv2 worth it?

gentle wasp
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no, it just happens to be in the IS-4 line

solid gate
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@candid harbor i thought it was 40mm

candid harbor
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could be that, 45 was on mind
then any gun caliber 120 or lower
can auto ricochet if hit at that 72° plate

nocturne sage
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Tips for the amx m4 45, how should i play it

candid harbor
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skip it

sterile oar
wide hound
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guys i had to chose between t1 Heavy and m4 what should I take

nocturne sage
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Thank you

candid harbor
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@wide hound t1

past crane
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@wide hound T1 and M4 are both good. Overall the T1 line is better, teaches you about a hulldown playstyle with an easy learning curve. M4 is good, as is the M4A3E8 and T20. Once you get to the Pershing and M46 the learning curve is a bit harder but both are solid choices.

strange crag
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Should I get FV4202 or Vickers light? (Consider the fact that Vickers is getting nerfed in next patch)

gentle wasp
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Vickers

echo knot
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LTTB with top gun or second gun?

glass relic
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Top gun ofc since it will help you deal more damage better than second gun by sacraficing gun depression

echo knot
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Okay... thanks, mate!

lean jungle
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Just to make sure, is the 252U the best tier 8 I can get for this event? I have the gold and I'm at ~4K battles

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Or would the VK/E5/34 be better?

glass relic
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T26E5 better because it's like AX less weakspots and can adapt better than 252u

lean jungle
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Oh, OK. I'm worried that the armor and alpha are a bit weak, though

glass relic
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The fact that 252u is less adaptive towards the battlefield it's just sucks, when 112-2 exist you don't want 252u like anymore.

The T26E5 armor is nice and good for hulldown just don't overextend the alpha is minimized by dpm..

lean jungle
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Is it similar to the T29?

glass relic
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The alpha is better than AX btw and the reload time is quite nice but slower than AX only just to compensated by 240 alpha

No it's not the thing has better speed and lower profile with DPM makes it more of a medium support main.

lean jungle
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Oh, OK. Thanks

glass relic
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Like any mediocre players would just say go for 252u and you can see small portion suggesting T26E5 underdog performance

brave night
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I would go for 252u much more solid but t26e5

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But t26e5 is a good tank

glass relic
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It takes skills to play the sheriff but if you're a no brainer then go play 252u instead.

The thing that T26E5 can perform better and not really boring can makes it a better tank to buy than boring 252u

brave night
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Yeah but I think 252u other than in gun depression is a better tank

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And dpm and speed

lean jungle
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My worry with the 252U is that the lower plate basically nullifies the strength of its armor everywhere else

glass relic
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Basically how you describe how you shouldn't buy 252u and get 112-2 instead ^

brave night
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@lean jungle that’s why you go hull down or face hug then they can’t hit it

lean jungle
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Yeah, but only 6 degrees of gun depression

glass relic
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Nah face hug is your death especially with tanks that is higher than you, cupola get farmed easily like a normal 40wr

brave night
glass relic
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Same goes for every angled armor tank anyway, but the fact it'll be better in every map it's way nicer than using cancerous lower plate 252u

brave night
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Uhh 252u exists

lean jungle
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I'll consider both

brave night
glass relic
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Gosh you know that 252u has those extreme angle? You should expect it cannot be penned easily without HEAT from angles on the side, and in 252u your cupola, is just like shoot me here in cqc

brave night
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Ok ?

glass relic
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The thing is good at holding out flanks and overwhelming people, but cannot stand a chance on 2v1 that much unless you can hide the lfp

low rampart
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Play the 252u like a much better armored IS-3 and you'll be good to go.

brave night
lean jungle
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I think I'm erring towards the 252U because I like high alpha but the T26E5 seems better overall. I'll still consider both though, and take some time

brave night
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It’s pretty much a better and more flexible is3

glass relic
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I personally dislike 252u after playing 100 battles in it just makes me bored and the tank is yeah great its quite amazing but idk the thing won't be as good as if i can get my hands on 112-2

brave night
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112-2 has a high skill cap

glass relic
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For me it's easier than 252u dunno why.

brave night
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But between the t26e5 and the 252u I think 252u is just more solid

glass relic
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The fact that I just don't like 252u cupola and less flexibility makes me bored after a while.

252u is more solid because no brainer tank.

brave night
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252u has small cupolas like really small

low rampart
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@glass relic It's just the armor, a nub can bounce shots with the 252 by accident all the time, it has OP angles everywhere. The gameplay ends up more boring than usual.

glass relic
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It's just a boredom i don't even want to touch it because it's just so boring XD.

It's possible but not as easy when you try to pen AX.

lean jungle
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Is it possible to pen the T26E5's turret? (Even if you aim closely or prammo)

low rampart
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@glass relic Sounds like you're my ex.

glass relic
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Well I'm not your ex, so don't think of it.

low rampart
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Banana with grapes.

lean jungle
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Also, can you pen a 252U's lower frontal plate if it's angled?

glass relic
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Kinda hard for low pen guns, it's already angled btw so sometimes it can make richochet or trolly bounces.

low rampart
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@lean jungle You can try, don't expect to do it.

lean jungle
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For 252 lfp or E5 turret?

glass relic
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T26E5 turret is overall nice and strong because the cupola isn't that easy to pen like AX, while also not having forehead and workable mobility to keep up with meds.

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Less weakspots meaning less way to get penned and damaged easily, so it's a buff towards your survival.

storm robin
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In the long run (from T6 onwards) would the British or French heavies be more worthwhile?

glass relic
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50B is nice but Fv215b is a tricky tank to play, both has high skill cap.

storm robin
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I mean, what I’m focusing on is the T6-8 area, because that’s where I intend to situate myself in the future

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Meanwhile I’m debating going down the Churchill line for the BP, or gritting my teeth through the M4 45 for the autoloading baguette heavies

candid harbor
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@storm robin french heavy tanks are great after tier 7 till then they are mediocre to bird poopoo

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i gave up on British heavies after Matilda

frank sparrow
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T28 prototype front hull armor got nerfed?

solid gate
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If you consider the heavy hp buff and the new TDs and heavys at the tier news then yes it got nerfed

wise moth
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@storm robin For tier VI-VIII, I would say the French heavies overall are better. The ARL-44 is known as one of, if not the best tank in the tier, and the 50 100 is also quite nice, that being said, the AMX M4 54 at tier VII is pretty weak

As for the Brits, they’re overall easier to play than the French, but the Churchill VII is kinda rough, and the Caernarvon is pretty meh. The Black Prince is decent, but really slow, and boring to play

storm robin
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So basically the French are harder but more rewarding, while the British are more consistent but kind of boring overall?

wise moth
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More or less, although the ARL-44 is pretty easy to play

storm robin
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I mean, in that case, then I’d go with the French? I was thinking that the Brits would be really good at sidescraping (something I can’t do with the French guys) but considering the prevalence of the DCA 45 at VI-VII...

wise moth
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But you lose the armor protection on the French heavies starting at tier VII. The Brits also more or less lose their armor as well, starting at tier VIII, but they still have more than their completely in armored French counterparts

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@storm robin I don’t really recommend sidescraping on the whole with most tanks with basically the sole exception of German superheavies, it’s really not a great tactic

storm robin
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Yeah, alrighty, so basically the French work better with an aggressive play style because of their generally better firepower?

glass relic
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Can't really go down to aggressive but more of a tactical plays.

wise moth
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Both really force you into aggressive play. The French, with their autoloaders (tier 8+) usually require to play at close range to be most efficient, while the Brits also require aggressive play due to the low alpha

storm robin
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Ah, that’s good - in that case, I think I’d probably be better off with the French because I like the idea of massive burst damage

storm blade
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how painful is the stock grind on the sturer emil

strange thicket
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Very

rustic tulip
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Get the top gun asap

storm blade
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alright time to use up all my gold

elfin marten
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How painful is it to carry only 6 shells that have 100+ pen in tier 8? Very...

plain wagon
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Is is7 a good tank?

storm robin
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Nope, IS 7’s armour is really lacking, and its ammo rack positions are dangerously memorisable

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And meanwhile I’m debating switching from the ARL-44 to the VK 36 H... even though I’ve already researched the M4 45 and got all its modules save for upgraded engine and suspension

tulip sundial
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But the discount Vk 90 is still pretty good, a bit slow tho

molten oxide
river jacinth
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finally after 6 hours of grinding i finally have the grille 15

glass relic
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Congrats now take a break

nocturne tiger
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Anything special about LeKpz M 41 90mm?

thick trout
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HEP, speed and a beautiful German gun

candid harbor
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curves

fast compass
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Them treads

nocturne tiger
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Well, thank god I didn't get another fcm cert

solid gate
nocturne tiger
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Alright, played one game with it, loved it, now I have 3687 gold so should I save it for Christmas or buy a prem tank?

spark basin
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save

spice steeple
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Smasher is too op for it's teir

solid gate
sleek nacelle
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what is your ammo Loadout for your FCM?

spice steeple
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Don't own

strange thicket
plucky summit
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It’s really meh

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Who am I to judge that though? I liked the T-2020 since it was born

strange thicket
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I don't understand the hate it gets
It is stupid fast
And a very fast reloading gun
Why not use that
It lacks the hp but it is basically a blackdog at tier 7 minus the HEP

solid gate
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Bulldog is a spectacular tank.

feral vessel
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The T57 heavy needs a major buff (Like at least x3 armor) -Is Powercreeped

lilac stump
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lol t57 is already good as it is

mental violet
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T57 is a beast? And it’s stats aren’t bad at all in #devs-answers

untold stirrup
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T57 is good as is, doesn't need a buff. If it really needed one it would be a buff to the turret armor excluding turret cheeks.

candid harbor
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it is slow and over shadowed by much faster and flexible amx 50b

maybe speed buff from 35kmph to 40 or 42kmph

viral falcon
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Not every should go with medium-like speed. It's fine as it is. You get good intraclip reload, and situational armour over 50B

red sonnet
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Does someone have the muzzle velocity of the HE shell on the SP I C? because I literally saw someone dodge my shell...

solid gate
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Yeah that's 57 heavies should have better armor because compared to amx 50b it is not enough good

deep berry
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can anyone check how much octopus skin costs?

lucid crescent
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is this is a good tank?

vivid turtle
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i have it. its fantastic

lucid crescent
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well.. i guess its my lucky day

deep berry
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Its Op ur real;ly lucky

vivid turtle
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the autoreloader does wondrs. basically no armour tho.

lucid crescent
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it also fast, so... its like tank destroyer but its basically medium tank?

deep berry
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come on someone pls dm me
fv215b octopus skin wotb
how much does it cost after 3rd ace thingy

steep current
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3500 gold@deep berry

sweet pulsar
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is there a way of unlocking the kranvagn legendary camouflages other than pop up offers

hollow notch
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@lucid crescent it's one of the best tier 8s, but you really have to know what you are doing to use it decently.

lucid crescent
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🤔 i see.. thank you for inform me that ^_^

pure arrow
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I have been realllly struggling with these Russian type tanks, especially the Chinese Is-2, is there a specific way to play this tank? Any advice would be very appreciated

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solid gate
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get it to 100% crew lol

lyric oriole
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You should be using the 100mm in Chinese IS-2

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The gun handling even with maxed everything is ABYSMAL on the 122

solid gate
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people use the 122?

lyric oriole
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In that screenshot he is

solid gate
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rip his accuracy

lyric oriole
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He's dealing with about 8.3 second aim time

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And .504 dispersion at 100 meters

summer snow
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is the leKpz good?

gentle wasp
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not the easiest tank to play but it is quire rewarding

summer snow
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thx I just got the rest of the parts I needed for it

gentle wasp
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nice!

pure arrow
lyric oriole
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Yeah pretty much

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The lowest you can get the aim time at all is 6.3 seconds

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And the lowest possible dispersion at 100 meters is worse than KV-2

hollow belfry
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@pure arrow why do u even grind it when you have more than enough to skip it lol

low rampart
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The aim time on the IS-3 is painful, you have to stand for 7.5 sec being exposed to penetration in order to aim properly. I end up using it for close encounters and brawls.

balmy wagon
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^there's lot more tanks worse than that

lyric oriole
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IS-3 actually has the best gun handling of tier 8 tanks with 122s

low rampart
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It doesn't have the armor to stand there waiting for the aim time, so any mid-long distance shots are off the table. They probably thought that was a good way to balance the tank, but I would prefer less aim time in exchange for less mobility.

gentle wasp
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it literally has the best turret at tier 8

low rampart
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@gentle wasp I wouldn't consider hull down or turret focused strategies because of the little gun depression. You must expose the hull to bring the full effectiveness of the tank, rotate to bounce shots, advancing close behind cover. The major limitation is you can't do mid-long shots well enough.

gentle wasp
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you have a very low profile and not-terrible gun depression so it is quite easy to get into favorable situations, ie, ones that aren't at mid to long range.

lyric oriole
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Also the hull is about 190mm effective, the idea for IS-3 is to be fighting same tier mediums with the role of a shotgunner

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It shouldn't be trying to DPM but it should be supportive to the meds by taking chunks of health out of enemy meds

glass relic
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And also can i add up, being a bugger towards meds by attempting to hulldown so they'd get more pressure?

pure arrow
heady lintel
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Whats the best non-premium tank to farm credits in?

safe ravine
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So in order to receive Collectible ATGM Sheridan in update 7.5 do I need to buy it or just researched it?

potent tinsel
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researched

glass relic
heady lintel
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thats not very good

heady lintel
glass relic
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Well then you have to be good at it and pen everyshots make it count 😅

pliant lodge
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PLEASE! remove the god damn mantlet weakspot on the AT 15. It's just annoying as fek

glass relic
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Its not like a noob would know it.

pliant lodge
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Legit everyone focus my hatch and mantlet. It's impossible despite my DPM

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Shouldn't the matnlet be the thickest part of a tank?

glass relic
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Well it should, but behind it not so much. Most designers think that it would just be more of a unnecessary weight especially for TDs.

glass relic
# heady lintel ig its the best if you can pen every shell

Anyway from my research on the coefficient wise the M26 Chaffee might be the best one as it have 5,5 repair cost + 125% base coefficient overall on all tiers the 2nd spot goes to the chi to now, but the tank has 6 repair cost so chaffee is better, and as for higher tiers you won't gonna make creds with those without prem acc + boosters anyway.

gentle wasp
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VK 28.01 is also a good earner and a fantastic tank.

heady lintel
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ight noted thanks guys

glass relic
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Yeah 119% + Amazing performing tank is counted too. On the VK 28

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I dunno how you count repair cost tho, since idk where to find the chart for it.

gentle wasp
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blitzstars has the repair costs.

pliant viper
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How to protect my laptop from MBT

glass relic
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Yeah but how you count it in credits, the fact that it just shows 5.5 for chaffee and 6 for VK makes me kinda confused on how many creds youd lost to repair your tonk.

pliant viper
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Can someone tell me how to play Sheridan though
I'm super close to getting it
T92 is a fun tank but I get lots of bad teams,I'm usually the only one alive in the end and do around 2.5-4k damage

gentle wasp
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oh right. I was hoping that was something you could easily plug into positive's formula but no dice.

glass relic
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Not to mention i suck at math n such so i couldn't try to find out on how to calculate it or something without me going to battle YOLO'ing just to see the result on both vehicle repair cost.

pliant viper
glass relic
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You play it as support because at end game you ended up having more HP than others meaning with that big boom boom alpha gun you can just trade and still wins, the thing has a good accuracy for its gun can make you a very good 2nd liner or you can just play it aggresively by taking vintage or a very advantagous point where you can utilize your gun dep, alpha and ATGM capabilities.

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That's how at least i play my sherry.

pliant viper
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Ohhhk thanks
I'm useless with missiles though
Would rather prefer regular heat

glass relic
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Yeah then at least get into a good early good position or ambush position so you can punish overextending tanks or someone crossing just to make them blep -500 HP

pliant viper
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Sheridan gonna be my first tier 10

solid gate
# pliant viper Can someone tell me how to play Sheridan though I'm super close to getting it T9...

Play the Sheridan like a more mobile T92E1. You get the mobility of the T49 back when you get the Sheridan. Hit and run tactics, flanking, assassination, etc. Play it really passive and as a scout. Whittle enemies down throughout the game; exploit any gaps in their defenses. Building on what @glass relic said, use the HP you saved by playing passive to go in and clean up the one or two shot enemies that are left. The Batchat plays similar to the Sheridan in terms of moving around and searching for isolated targets, but the Sheridan also does better on a ridgeline.

pliant viper
glass relic
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You always win HP trades with other Meds and LTs except your twins it'll depends on RNG. But overall don't always trade unless its end game and you have the HP advantage.

solid gate
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just dont be surprised when you get bullcrap low rolls for like 590 with HE

glass relic
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Hahaha yeah the thing has bad HE damage RNG sometimes, but its always good to utilize it so you won't reach below 500 roll

pliant viper
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Ok cool

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Im also close to obj 140(I pick it over t62),I enjoy t54 as well

solid gate
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@pliant viper NO. Do NOT buy the Object 140. Get the T-62A. The Object 140 is so much worse than the T-62A. Do NOT make the same mistake I did.

glass relic
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Well 140 is a good tourney tank, and 62a is a great all rounder tank that can be used in both tour and pubs, just to only be more success in pubs because you can stand your own chances.

pliant viper
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Ok I'll get t62 then

gentle wasp
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yea the HE is a real annoyance for the E1 and Sheri because it has 680 alpha compared to 780 on the T49

solid gate
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^^^ No. The 140 is dogcrap compared to the T-62A in every way except hull armor, and even then the 140 only has 8mm more. The 62A gets more gun depression and WAY more turret armor, it's so much more effective on a ridgeline.

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The 140 is not a good tournament tank, nor is it a good pub/ratings tank. T-62A> 140, any day of the week.

glass relic
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You would say the opposite when that 62a didn't get a buff

gentle wasp
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140 theoretically has more upside but for 99% of the playerbase the 62a is the way to go. no reason to needlessly challenge yourself.

glass relic
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62a is the way to go tank on 54 red pills and blue pills decision.

thick trout
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140s speed and adaptability makes it a good touney tank whereas the T62s turret will get buttered by IS4 HEAT and it will get chased down by E5s using speed boosters @solid gate

gentle wasp
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won't the 62a's accuracy, turret, and gun depression give it the edge?
@solid gate 140 is faster

solid gate
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Explain? The 62A is almost as fast as the 140, and I don't see how "adaptability" is a concrete reason that makes the 140 automatically better.

glass relic
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It can adapt better in city maps than 62a when it comes to forced brawls

solid gate
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I would personally sacrifice a small amount of speed in exchange for exponentially better turret armor and more gun depression.

gentle wasp
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agreed

solid gate
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If WarGaming Adds in an Anime skin with a waifu fir STB-1, they’ll def make stonks. Just like WoWsB

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Plus, taking your Object 140 and brawling it out in the city doesn't work, now that HTs have more HP and the meta is T110E5s with double speed boosts and adrenaline yoloing you.

glass relic
solid gate
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Plus tbh the AP pen the 140 gets is helpful but not much since 255 -250 APCR still has greater power than 245 AP and as said before 140s armor doesn’t hold up anymore and simply aiming will solve it too

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Pls do not be a GuP, a Custom one, just like MW with their custom waifus

mental violet
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140 is a lot more mobile which is a very big advantage, the turret of the 62a is paper versus people that can aim and use gold

thick trout
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@solid gate If you want a tank to go hulldown agressively then you take an E5, if you want a scout you take the Vickers, and if you want something that can either then you take a 140. The T62 is limited to hulldown because it just lacks the top speed to rotate well or get to a position fast, and everything else is outclassed by the E5.

solid gate
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@solid gate wargamings not gonna appeal to weebs for a while considering they got new “gup” vehicles and the legendary ho ri camo

glass relic
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WoTB has less weebs than WoWSB because not so many tank girls around to make some man of culture got their interest in.

solid gate
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They don’t got Waifus on them, but I do see your point tho. But Ho Ri’s legendary is just a Samurai tho...

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Idk about you but I think a samurai looks much cooler than a really questionable character

glass relic
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It could've become way more interesting skins but infact they just went on kinda lame samurai skin that just looks like katana handle. the thing only makes interest towards universal and overall playerbase.

low rampart
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Is there an upside of choosing the SU-100 line?
Most people pick the ISU152 because tier 10 gun.

solid gate
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The Su Line leads to 268 Iirc which is a really decent tier 10

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Almost all legendary skins sucks really, because their usually looking like non-Abstract skins unlike the ones for 500 gold

glass relic
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The point of leg skin is just supposed to make the tank holds its own pride and dignity by having originality + flexing and looking cool.

gentle wasp
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@low rampart the 268 line is infinitely better than the 263 line.

solid gate
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I don't agree with that. The 62A still can go at 50 km/h, and 55 km/h on the 140 isn't that much of an advantage. Plus, the 62A has way more advantages:
5mm more AP and 10mm more HEAT pen.
25% better aim time, 14% better dispersion
Less terrain resistances actually gives it a better effective power to weight ratio
Way more frontal turret armor in exchange for 26mm less on the side turret and 5mm less on the side of the hull.

There is no tank that can fulfill the role of this supposed "E5/Vickers Light" hybrid, the differences between them are too great. The only tanks that even come close are the 140 and 62A, and the 62A is already miles beyond the 140 in terms of performance. @thick trout

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Wait also is4 heat butters through the turret? Call me crazy but that seems an oddly specific scenario where it has to happen

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I mean, how often do you see a 140 or a 62A being run in a tournament? Almost never, but the 62A is still run more frequently because of said advantages over the 140.

gentle wasp
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@solid gate won't is4 heat butter the 140 turret as well

low rampart
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@gentle wasp Have you played the 263? There has to be something good about that line, even if worse than 268.

solid gate
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@gentle wasp 140 turret is already paper to basic AP rounds loading gold on it is over kill even for meds

glass relic
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the only good thing on 263 line is DPM thats all, with some mobility.

gentle wasp
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@low rampart I have not. refer to what Rapenk said. It is far too situational to be any kind of good.

solid gate
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263 is a case of tolerating negative traits and being able to adapt to it to use its potential

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What is Vickers Was Given less armor but more speed?

thick trout
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@solid gate 55 Vs 50 over long distance is a definite advantage. T62 has APCR and AP is much more useful. Both guns are plenty accurate enough and the turrets are both butter to prammo so there isn't much point in talking about the turret armour, but the 140s hull can bounce and so the 140 has better armour for tourneys. The speed is what you need for rotations and caps and that's what the T62 just doesn't have. The 140 can function as a spotter and can go hulldown and so can be used as a Vickers/E5 replacement but it's just so adaptable it's so much more useful. The T62 is only good at hulldown and the E5 is much better, so it's pretty pointless to take it.

solid gate
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The 140 cannot go hulldown because it A: has zero turret armor and B: has no effective gun depression. If you want a tank that can just poke ridges and spot, you might as well just run the Vickers. I don't see how AP is more useful than APCR other than the fact it has 3 degrees more normalization, which is basically never effective in battle considering the low-ish penetration of both tanks. Also, the 62A's turret isn't butter to premium. I can sit hulldown and wiggle my turret and people bounce off me all day long, whereas in the 140 all I see is red hit markers and holes in my tank. Even then, if you're just sitting still while poking a ridgeline, you need to learn how to play medium tanks.

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I can see the T-62A actually being more useful in a variety of situations, especially since it can use terrain and cover to much greater effect. The 140, with its complete lack of effective turret armor and gun depression, is much less flexible.

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If you want a hybrid tank that can hulldown somewhat like an E5, yet scout like a Vickers, use the 62A. The 140 is not the better choice because you can't go hulldown at all, while the 62A can do some of both. If you're just playing the 140 to poke ridges and get vision, play the Vickers instead. The 62A can do it all and the 140 can't.

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Not to mention they both have the same view range, so it's not like either one has a hard statistical scouting advantage.

viral falcon
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3° normalization actually matters a lot, especially against steep slopes. Just a side note.

thick trout
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The 140 has impenetrable and easy to pen areas, same as the T62 against prammo. The gun depression is 1° different and you won't be using it anyway. AP helps massively against angled plates, and it is butter to prammo when you play against half competent reds.

In short, you basically need to think about why you want a medium tank in a tourney. You confuse it way too much with randoms. In a tourney you want mobility and the possibility to perform in more situations. The 140 has mobility and thanks to its troll hull is more useful in more situations. You want a hulldown tank then the T62 is better than the 140, but you have a long line of heavies better than the T62. You can go hulldown in a almost 140 as well as in a T62 in tourneys, but again that's not what they are used for. The 140 still has a much better profile and more dpm over the Vickers so there are definitely reasons to choose it over the other. The T62 can't do it all at all, and the 140 is better at most things that you want it to do.

brave night
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^^^^ in short there are other tanks that do what the 62a has over the 140 but better

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Also is4 heat exists

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But you know you can just use a t22

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

solid gate
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Ok, so now it becomes an argument of tournament doctrine and personal strategy/playstyle preferences, which can't really be compared objectively. I personally prefer armor and mobility, and the 62A has a great balance of both while the 140 sacrifices a disproportionate amount of armor in exchange for 10% more top speed as well as disadvantages in a number of other areas. I would personally want a medium in a tournament as a hybrid heavy/light tank that can move fairly quickly and still have decent firepower and armor, which the 62A fills perfectly.

If you just want the mobility aspect of the 140, you can again just play the Vickers Light, especially since light tanks have the camo advantages when moving. Not to mention, the 62A has much better all round armor (especially on the turret), making the 62A more reliable. Disregarding gun depression is a stupid thing to do. 7 degrees is a HUGE advantage over 6 degrees and allows you to utilize way more ridgelines, for example, the corner slopes on C side in Port Bay. The 62A can use those; the 140 can't. Normalization is, in practice, irrelevant, considering that the 62A can penetrate every spot on any medium tank, light tank, or TD that the 140 can with AP or APCR. 3 extra degrees of normalization doesn't help against any heavy tanks, especially when HEAT exists and you can use that.

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For instance on how actually “helpful” the AP is 255 APCR has more penetration power than the 140s AP and that still struggles to pen a lot of weak spots

prime delta
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If that’s the case, then why don’t you see T-62A in tourney in practice? It’s either 140 or T-22. My best guess is because of hull armour.

solid gate
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If you can show me a specific situation in which the 3 degrees of normalization means the difference between a penetration and a nonpenetration, I'll accept that, but then it becomes a question of how specific said situation is and how often it actually happens

brave night
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Hull armor and speed

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140 is more flexible in every way but the hull down

viral falcon
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@solid gate E100's lower plate, specifically. The 140 reliably pens it at a slight angle, while the 62 sometimes bounces straight off at zero angle.

brave night
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Sure it might not be the best hull down in a ridge but you don’t play it like that you are constantly moving not sitting there

prime delta
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I’m not a great player and I haven’t done tourneys. But I think it bears noting that through the streams I’ve watched, a few of the EU teams especially pulled out 140s— but no team ever used 62A.

brave night
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@solid gate is7 is also a good example where the normalization helps

solid gate
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I think at this point, it's more a question of personal preferences in playstyle and strategy, rather than hard statistical advantages and disadvantages and how they pan out in a given situation.

prime delta
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But through all the tournaments for this Twister season, you’d think there’d be at least one player who prefers 62A over 140. I don’t think we’ve seen that.

brave night
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140 is faster and has a stronger hull with ap but the 62a has a turret

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You get one pro from the 62a while 3 on the 140

solid gate
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^^^ I prefer the turret, and I think the stronger turret combined with the better depression makes it more flexible, especially since you only need to physically expose your turret to shoot, whereas the 140, with the worse turret armor and gun depression, often has to expose its entire tank to fire back, making you a bigger target.

prime delta
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Hmm. Perhaps the T-22 makes the 62A obsolete, but the 140 has an edge over the 22?

brave night
prime delta
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140 is certainly faster than 22 and AP helps a lot in a brawl. Plus, frontal plate on 140 is good.

brave night
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There is a reason you use t22 over 149

prime delta
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Because of hull armour.

solid gate
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and the turret armor

brave night
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With a better turret and pretty much the same gun and mobility

thick trout
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@solid gate If you like armour and mobility then you pick the E5... If you want mobility mixed with all round armour and a gun (aka for flexibility), then you choose the 140. The T62 has almost no place in tourneys at all. The difference in depression is useless because you plan out positions beforehand, and the normalisation helps against anything that isn't a maus...

prime delta
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IMO, that’s the thing. It’s better than the 62A because of that armour— but it shoots APCR and is slower than 140. It makes 62A useless while 140 has a niche with AP and speed.

brave night
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And hull armor

prime delta
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In pubs there’s a good argument for the 62A. But comp?

brave night
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Na but if you have a t22 there is no reason to use either

prime delta
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Little reason. I wouldn’t exactly say no reason — if we see 140s in comp, don’t you think these top clans and players could afford a T-22? Logically that makes no sense to me, if you could have a much stronger shot with a different tank.

solid gate
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I would say that the E5 is not mobile (37 km/h top speed). The only time it can actually haul arse somewhere is with the Improved Engine Power Boost, and you only really use those once or twice per match.

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Now that I think about it, wouldn't both the 140 and 62A just be irrelevant compared to the STB-1?

prime delta
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STB has ~500 less DPM. Also, the STB lacks speed compared to 140.

brave night
solid gate
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Not really if you have the cool down equipment installed and the boosters you can use the boost frequently even for the max speed E5 has decent response

brave night
solid gate
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@prime delta It's only about 300 actually. The STB has 2844 while the 140/62A have 3154, which is a difference of 310. Plus, the STB has much more effective turret armor (more sloped, smaller cheeks, lack of cupolas), 10 extra degrees of gun depression, and a good top speed of 53 km/h with a P2W ratio of over 20 compared to the 140's ratio of just over 16

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same view range as well

prime delta
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@solid gate Equipment and all that is multiplicative. Running calibrated, sure, but after two stacks of food that difference makes itself felt. Also, terrain resistances on 140 is BS high.

solid gate
prime delta
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Look at effective HP/T

thick trout
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@solid gate If you are playing with your armour you only need burts of mobility like the E5 can give you, as well as giving you a much better turret, better hull, better gun and more go. The STB doesn't have the gun and plays the role the Vickers light does but without the camo and view range, so it's useless too.

prime delta
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Also, the 140 gun is definitely more accurate than STB. I think it has to do with factors on movement, but it hits its shots much more consistently, IMO. A time doesn’t matter much because if you’ve played either the 62 or 140 you’ll notice the Russians basically don’t bloom at all.

solid gate
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Fair enough

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I think I've brutally lost this debate, but it was still fun

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a small setback in my quest to become to ben shapiro of wotblitz

nimble kraken
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Stock leopard pt a is trash

solid gate
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All stock tanks are

nimble kraken
solid gate
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I’ve played it stock before and it’s bad

nimble kraken
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No its garage

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Yes it does get better but stock. Its basically a tier 7

radiant coral
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Leopard 1 worth it ?

frank star
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did you always think T-54 upper plate was really good until you were shooting more premium rounds at strong armor?

frank star
radiant coral
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Hmmm, next Season then, but for now I’m going for the E 50 M

frank star
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yea E 50 M is a all round good medium

radiant coral
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@frank star And by the way, thx M8

frank star
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no problem😉

short lynx
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why don't they put the m3 Stuart, m5 Stuart and m4A3E8 Sherman mexican

In the story it says that Mexico bought those three tanks, if they want to investigate

solid gate
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Because we already have enough variants of those tanks as it is

short lynx
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But it wouldn't be so bad

solid gate
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It’s not bad but there’s no point in making copies of everything

solid gate
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Tortoise needs ether a armor buff or to remove the copola

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It’s barely playable

brittle atlas
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they gotta be historicly accurate

scarlet echo
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The strv is a stupid tank for its penn I bounced almost all my shots of a p 43 ter in front of me

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Pls change the tank

radiant coral
frank star
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imagine a STB-1 being able to pen 400 mm with HEAT

feral vessel
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T57 Needs Buff

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T57 Needs Heavy Buff

scarlet echo
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Strv mostly needs a buff on accuracy and armoe

frank star
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T 57 doesn't need a buff

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strv is a medium tank at tier VI don't expect much

radiant coral
scarlet echo
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Strv I can't depend on its armor and same as the accuracy

feral vessel
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What no it rivals the krvagn and the amx 50b and it sucks in comparisison

frank star
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well it's the same as saying the cromwell needs an armor buff because I only bounce 10% of troll shells

feral vessel
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?????? Also the superpershing should get an 400 health buff it should be a heavy

scarlet echo
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It's should

radiant coral
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For some reasons you bounce more shells with Britian’s because they are hella fast, I bounced with my Löwe 4 times in a row at the Vickers CR..... I still don’t know how I managed that

frank star
frank star
radiant coral
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Yes, and with the T57 you can act as supporting role at the second line

feral vessel
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so give it some speed

frank star
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are you like strugling with 40% win rate on T 57 or what?

radiant coral
# frank star vickers turret op

Like I do it with Löwe, play not directly at the front, stay a little back angle, you will bounce, snipe back & repeat,
Now to the Vickers—
Well, op or not, in my opinion it's okay, it's not impenetrable but hard to hit it

feral vessel
frank star
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T 54E1 isn't a heavy it's a second line medium

feral vessel
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Nevertheless, it sucks

radiant coral
frank star
feral vessel
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Well, okay I gotta admit the damage is nice, and the speed is okay, but y'know, still

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lol i was playing with it whole drums didnt pen the vickers cr hull

radiant coral
frank star
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both T 54E1 and T 57 are sitting at around 50% win rate so they seem very balanced

feral vessel
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No,I have sheri and t62A

radiant coral
feral vessel
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Sub 2 meadsy

radiant coral
frank star
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Sub 2 meadsy because he isn't playing ROBLOX

feral vessel
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lol ja

radiant coral
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True True True

frank star
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back to tanks

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so anyway I am sleepy and I think wheeled french bois with 90% camo would be very balanced

feral vessel
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hi sleepy im alex

frank star
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hi hi sleepy im Alex, I'm dad

feral vessel
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Hi im sleepy

hollow moth
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I'm kinda unsatisfied with my actual career average damage, 1052 isn't a bad number but it's also not that good

solid gate
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Hello, since There are so many meds in the game, i was wondering if the STB-1 is worth the grind?

gentle wasp
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absolutely

solid gate
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Is it on par with other mediums?

hollow moth
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I plan to play 1000 consecutive battles on Jagdpanzer E100 only to see how much my average damage will raise

Yeah, it's a good tank and can deal well with other meds, but you may see some problems on the tier 7 and 9 tanks of this line@solid gate

solid gate
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Im now grinding for the Type 61. Got a fully upgraded STA1. I do like it alot. Reminds me of the RU german

hollow moth
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Nice, just get prepared because the Type 61 isn't so great, but can do the job

solid gate
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Alright, thank you.

upper jolt
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The tank that comes before the panther yeah this thing feels like trash lol

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How do you play it

untold stirrup
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I'm grinding FV215b(183) rn. First thing I have to say is, the Tortoise has the biggest coupola on any tier 9 TD. Oh, and it has massively inadequate armor. Truth be told, if they just buffed the frontal armor or made the coupola actually reliable against medium tanks that would be fine with me.

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But I can't hope for too much I suppose.

radiant coral
solid gate
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@untold stirrup first step is removing the loader position from the cupola because he’s not even supposed to be there

untold stirrup
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Wait fr?

radiant coral
untold stirrup
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The Foch at least has mobility going for it Tortoise has a max of 20

solid gate
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Yeah the cupola where the loader is in on the tortoise isn’t supposed to be there that cupola is a dedicated Anti infantry turret with a gunner for the turret in it not a loader if anything it should be replaced with a commander

untold stirrup
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That's why it's so dire for Tortoise. :/
On top of the fact that whatever frontal armor it has going for it is rendered useless because of either the flat weakspot or the other side with inadequate armor

white shuttle
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what does the rudolph tank look like?

brave night
keen escarp
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i def gonna get that.

solid gate
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Oh

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I only have literally 3 tanks, i'm poor

lyric flume
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How to play object 704

final night
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Non-ATGM Sheridan's HEAT should get a buff. Make its pen to 640

solid gate
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Get out

untold stirrup
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W h a t

hollow moth
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Excuse-me?@final night

final night
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Lol

wise moth
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I think he meant alpha should be 640, 640 HEAT pen would be ridiculous, you could pen most tanks through the mantlet and stuff with that lol

glass otter
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@wise moth Is it better to run rammer or cali on the T26E5

wise moth
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Rammer. DPM is pretty much the primary reason you play T26E5 over something like T32 or Y54E2

glass otter
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Alrighty, thanks

solid gate
lyric flume
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How to play obj 704 help

hollow moth
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It's simple, you can play it like you do in ISU-152, but it's troll armor and HP will let you be much more aggressive @lyric flume

lyric flume
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Ok

glass relic
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Actually you cannot be aggresive to set up an ambush with it that much, because the armor isn't that trolly than the ISU, because the thing has smaller mantlet so no mantlet blocks like ISU, the tank is more of a sniping one and its better to conserve your HP as a TD that can be used in late game tradings.

twin bane
pulsar cloak
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Yeah the alecto and su-85b are still broke af

candid harbor
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@twin bane it won't be
leaks tell that tank is going to be as useless as kuro mori mini

pulsar cloak
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Wait that is a tank?

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Looks really weird

twin bane
spark basin
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looks cool though

candid harbor
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@twin bane if leaks are true, then yea

pulsar cloak
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Russia tanks have a green candy cane paint on winter maps

twin bane
nocturne sage
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It’s looks like it’s gonna have the stock 88 gun so around 145mm of pen if I remember unless they give the same 88 on the jadgpz 4. It’s armor maybe reduce to fit in a t6 match but will still be kind of THICC judging by the plates in front probably 120-135mm. Speed will definitely be increase from the looks of it.

solid gate
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It’s just another tier 6 tiger clone don’t get your hopes up

sinful epoch
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How do you use the caernarvon? I get the impression its big, slow, and pretty paper for a heavy.

wise moth
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@sinful epoch You play it hull down and try to catch people out in the open, then shred them with the DPM. That's about all you can do in it

You can also push against isolated lower DPM tanks, since you also have the engine boost and reactive armor consumables

sinful epoch
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Thanks!

karmic nymph
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with the tortoise the entire front is the weakpoint. they dont need to aim for the cupola

hushed shadow
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True. I’d prefer leaving the cupola alone but buffing the front of the tank. Maybe buff the cupola so there’s a smaller pennable area

pliant viper
wise moth
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Congrats! The first tier 10 is always the hardest

pliant viper
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Yeah
I hope I grow to love the tank like it's line though
This line was the most fun I had in blitz,just derping and running away

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Now I go for t62a

candid harbor
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oh noice
got the sheri

wise moth
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@pliant viper Well, its getting normal HEAT ammo instead of the missiles next update

pliant viper
spark basin
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if you had to pick one to use over the other, would you use reactive armor or adrenaline?

wise moth
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Adrenaline
@spark basin
Although iirc, you were the guy asking about the Caernarvon, in which case, there are 2 good builds imo

  1. Combat setup: Multi-kit, reactive, adrenaline
  2. Rotation setup: Multi-kit, adrenaline, super speed

The combat setup is exactly as advertised. If you just want to win fights, then dropping both reactive and adrenaline at the same time will essentially gurantee you'll win whatever fight you get into

The rotation setup will take some more finesse. The super speed lets you take key positions more efficiently and rotate well, and then use the adrenaline to make the most of whatever positional advantage you can create with the speed boost, but it's not as forgiving as the combat setup since you don't have reactive

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Same builds go for the other tanks with reactive/speed boost as consumable options, not just caernarvon

spark basin
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thanks for the info, ill keep it in mind

finite gyro
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i realized the front armour of the arl is not invincible

inland ivy
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you thought it was?

finite gyro
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yes ofc. bdr always bounces shots from the front

spark basin
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people can't aim then

solid gate
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BDR G1 tho... it's armor and cannon is insane

finite gyro
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ikr

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it can bounce ap kv2 shells like its rocks wtf

solid gate
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Kv2 has bad pen

glass relic
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wack pen

pliant viper
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Now that I got Sheridan (atgm),I will get it as a collector right?

solid gate
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Yea

lime rapids
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should i put the stock 152 on the isu?

lime rapids
pliant viper
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What??

lime rapids
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im not close to the Sheridan on Chaffee right now

formal karma
lime rapids
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really?

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why tho whats the difference?

formal karma
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The numbers don't lie, this is more than enough pen to cut through everything at tier 8 and mostly everything at tier 9 while also doing tons of damage, not to mention a bit more pen for HE nuking.

📎 unknown.png
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Not to mention there's a lot more that can bounce the ML-20 at tier 8, and especially at tier 9

thick trout
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You should always run the ISU with the top 122 that you have researched (but not used) on the SU152, and then go straight for the BL10

formal karma
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It's also gonna save you from a world of pain in 704.

lime rapids
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704?

formal karma
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The tier 9 after the ISU.

lime rapids
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ok i will get the bl10

lime rapids
jovial bloom
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Exact same gun but different penetration?

lime rapids
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how?

solid gate
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It’s the same thing for t30 it’s just different ammo

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Not as in actually different ammo types just different ammunition models

jovial bloom
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T30 and t95?

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Or t30 and t110e4?
@solid gate

jovial bloom
jovial bloom
hazy bear
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What's been bothering me is that the m18 is getting a buff reload but I don't know how long the new reload is gonna be.

plain wren
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what tier x premium tank you would buy if u had gold

long shuttle
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what is the best tier 8 medium?? any advice?

pure arrow
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So I just got the T37, and I’m thinking of playing french lights. Any tips on how to play their auto loaders

pure arrow
# long shuttle what is the best tier 8 medium?? any advice?

Premium wise, probably the chimera if you want a mix of high Alpha, decent mobility and good hull down armor. Tech tree wise I’d recommend trying the Russians or Germans. I don’t know much about the nations tech trees (shamefully since I own more premium tanks then techtree tanks researches)

wise moth
pure arrow
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So basically relocate while reloading and exploit the mobility to flank static targets?

wise moth
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Pretty much. The key thing here is to really avoid taking damage as much as possible. You’re going to lose pretty much any straight fight against any enemy that you can’t confidently clip out.

Also, play hull down as much as you can. French lights have super small turrets that are hard to hit while hull down, and rocking back and forth can make you very obnoxious to deal with. And since all of them are rear turreted, learn to reverse peek stuff as well

fluid imp
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T28/t95 is way undersized, too fast and not enough armor

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My black prince is like 2x bigher when it should be 2x smaller than it

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The real thing has a foot of solid steel for armor and a top speed of 8mph the gun irl is also 4 inches

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Its stats are way off

wise moth
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@fluid imp Actually, they're not that off. The T95 does have a foot of steel in the front. The entirety of the front in Blitz is 305mm, or 12 inches, with the exception of a small lower plate weakness.

And it also does have the option to mount the historical 105mm gun (4.13 inches)

As for the speed, 8 mph is 13 km/h, which is the old T95 top speed, however, it's been buffed a few times for balance reasons

The only difference is that it is smaller on Blitz, being about a meter shorter in height, and 4 meters shorter in length (although it is roughly the correct width)

Also, it should be noted that Blitz is not exactly super historical, mostly for game balance reasons, so before you call it out for being historically inaccurate, just remember that, and also remember to do your imperial to metric conversions properly

pseudo matrix
#

ok karen

solid gate
#

Is VK 100.01(P) Porsche Typ 205 K 3381 good?

dense torrent
#

armor, yes, it is decent but beware of russian HTs
gun, mediocre, will do great damage for it's tier but the DPM and handling is bad, the stock gun is straight up bad but for whatever reason it's very good on VK 45.01 A

solid gate
#

Oh thanks

fluid imp
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@wise moth i wasnt thinking conversions but the entirety of the main hull had a foot of solid steel

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Exept the u dercarrige, which is perpendicular to the ground

wise moth
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@fluid imp Actually, the armor model in Blitz is fairly accurate. The lower plate is 130mm, just as in real life, and the sides in real life are just 64mm thick.

In Blitz, the sides are also 64mm thick, however, the part underneath the tracks and the upper sides were nerfed down to 51mm though for balance reasons. The sideskirts also used to be the historical 100mm, however, those were also nerfed down to 50mm, also for balance reasons

But the real life T95 certainly did not have 1 foot of armor on the hull sides and rear @fluid imp

fluid imp
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It never went into full action so were only prototypes, that is likely what wouldve happened if went into main production, the hull armor wpuldve been lowered

meager bear
#

IDK if this has talked before but, in the left of the draw image there is a Lorraine 155 or is my idea?

📎 ljksdklasdjk.PNG
wise moth
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@meager bear Well, given that they made it to aberdeen proving grounds, if the T95 had actually went into service, it would've been identical to the existing prototypes, just with an M designation.

meager bear
wise moth
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my bad
Although, to answer your question, that is a Lorraine 155

meager bear
hollow notch
#

Actually, yes. Glass tds like the grille line, some having turrets. Solid idea.

fluid imp
#

The t28 size is a bit smaller than it should be

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I checked over the sizes again and it should be loger and wider, it is supposed to be larger than my prince

languid needle
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because lorrain 155 is on wot pc, and blitz tend to use some images from their big brother

solid gate
#

Isn't a AMX 13?

clear terrace
#

Fv4202 OP????

brave night
upper jolt
#

Enhanced armor or more HP for vk.30.01 D ? The medium one. I'm not sure its armor is good

glass relic
#

HP your armor is unreliable and bad anyway

brave night
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Just play it support but it does need a buff either armor or speed imo

tepid geyser
#

hp, enhanced armor is only good on heavily armored tanks, plus, no one knows how the enhanced armor actually works besides the people who implemented it

brave night
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Adds 4% more mm of armor

glass relic
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The enchanced armor just give you a slight buff towards your armor so Making some pennable parts become trollier.

brave night
tepid geyser
#

WG never specified what that 4% goes to tbh

glass relic
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Just test it out on training room by trying to HE a tank armor at 90° without Enchanced armor and the armor on the tank has like the same thickness as your HE pen or like 1-3 less mm than your HE pen and see once it uses Enchanced armor the thing will become redier or not.

tepid geyser
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People have already done that, not even youtubers know what the enchanced armor does or how it benefits tanks lol

glass relic
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Yeah it's a mystery but the fact it actually helps you a bit is acceptable.

tepid geyser
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Yeah, I know it helps, but like, how it helps, no one knows lol

glass relic
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Just by making your armor trollier or at least to make you THINK that you have more armor.

upper jolt
#

Maybe it just give you 4% better rng lol

tepid geyser
#

Yeah, I personally think it's just wargaming mind games lol. I've never seen a benefit to running it

glass relic
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Well i always run Enchanced armor on some well rounded heavies, because I like to at least take some chances on it, until i found out that HP is better.

upper jolt
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Like rigging the dice roll slightly

tepid geyser
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I've always run the HP

glass relic
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For example my EXP cheeks become more trollier than usual so kinda helps me.

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I also just had myself a great example of why HP is nice, i just HE'd a leo for 1,2k max roll with my ISU and he was using the improved assembly leaving him at 71 HP left.

tepid geyser
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Yep, that's why I use the HP

glass relic
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Both are nice but HP sometimes is beneficial, i think HP is more beneficial than the enchanced armor dunno yet, depends on personal preference.

tepid geyser
#

Yeah, I agree, I find that the HP is way more beneficial.

solid gate
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I use armor on heavies, improved assembly for other tonks

glass relic
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It can be used on all tanks meaning it's universal like even for TDs LTs n such the enchanced armor is just limited towards well rounded HT or other well rounded tank with good armor, with some very mysterious mechanics

lyric oriole
#

We do know that the enhanced armor has to do with a hidden stat of armor quality

glass relic
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Yeah that's why I trust it to make my armor trollier.

hollow notch
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All I know is enemy mice are more red when they use enhanced armor, therefore that is what I use

candid harbor
#

does enhanced armor affect nominal armor or effective armor?

solid gate
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@candid harbor nominal

candid harbor
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aye aye, thonks

low rampart
#

Why isn't the Pantera as good as Progetto 46? In paper it looks better, is it the way in which the turret rotates with a smaller profile, or the traverse speed?

candid harbor
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@low rampart size, worse aim time, worse gun depression and worse damage per shot

low rampart
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@candid harbor Those seem to be small differences. I think the difference between Winrates is tech tree tanks are played by everyone, meanwhile the Progetto 46 is played by people who pay attention to events, watched streams and got a special tank which they'll try to perform better than usual. The size looks way better on the progetto though.

gentle wasp
#

Prog also has quicker interclip and a better turret

candid harbor
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@gentle wasp nah, pogetto is paper thin

gentle wasp
#

The mantlet gets a decent amount of bounces. Pantera is just big and flat and doesn’t have sideskirts

candid harbor
#

i aim directly into mantlet of pogetto

low rampart
#

Aiming at them is like a squared box and a shoe box, I think I've never missed a shot on the Pantera.

brave night
#

Isn’t prog slightly faster

low rampart
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@brave night Turret traverse speed is about 4 degrees faster indeed, that and the smaller profile and aim time make it faster and more aggressive than the Pantera.

marsh canyon
#

Progetto’s gun trash

static mantle
#

Ej bo gracie w fortnajta byczki? Pog champ

scarlet echo
#

Is the emil l good? But does it have bad armor on the back?

brave night
jade lark
#

opinions on conway?

limber sand
mellow swallow
#

Everyone, I have an announcement to make: I got my first tier 10. My friend says he beat me to it but he just lucked out with snow globes, I got mine legitimately. The tank: bat chat 25t

jade lark
#

nice?

peak canopy
#

Who knows black prince?

limber sand
#

me

peak canopy
#

İts so op,i getted its machine gun baby i think u get it too

limber sand
#

yeah it's completely broken. I have gun rammer and super charge, just hit adrenaline and then destroy tier 8s

peak canopy
#

Yes

limber sand
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use it to counter smasher

peak canopy
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U know that coming new event,NERF ANNİHİLATOR Buff smasher

stuck meadow
#

ngl

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im an owner of BP and yes its OP mainy because you can get TD's to shoot tour tracks and then rush em

solid gate
twilit gust
#

honestly, the Jumbo deserves a little buff. It's reload is 6,2-6,7 seconds (depending if you have gun rammer /consumeables) and the HP pool is also a little bit below average even with the HP upgrade because it's turret is shown as a Tier5 turret

scarlet echo
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Is the emil l good? But does it have bad armor on the back?

lapis eagle
#

i mean what tank has good armor on the back?

frank star
#

Pz 38H but i don't know if you would count that

fickle hull
#

Tips for AT 8? 19 battles, 69% WR

frank star
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69% nice

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well against tier V and VI you're exceptionally well armored but I was able to penetrate the entire hull with APCR fired from a Hellcat and ARL is very dangerous because of it's tier VIII gun penetrating everything at tier VI but hey at least those cromwell's aren't able to penetrate the fro- ah yes the copula 🙄

brave night
#

At8 line is like the jg tigers line but worse

lucid crescent
#

Tips for Kv-2? Im new to that fridge tank and what usually i do with is to flank enemies as meat shield

low rampart
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The ATs are good to block the enemy from advancing on one side. When you see it, you can peek and not pen while it shoots you, so you have to wait for flanking in order to continue advancing.

upper jolt
#

Leopard 1 or e 50 m? which medium is better

hollow notch
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Leo 1 because e50m is boring

But is you have to ask, e50m will be better for you.

solid gate
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Excpet that AT line is good as hell, especially after their pewpew gun started to pose a threat. All AT series have troll armor that only have fairly small cupola as only weakness. No need to say Death Star is something all tonks run from it like a cheetah

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It's not rare seeing an AT win 2-4vs1

swift trout
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Death star and crap barn, British TD line

untold stirrup
#

Tortoise is n o

ember bobcat
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Tortoise is dookie

solid gate
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Tortorise... idk damage is low for tier 9

swift trout
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Yes but it has the tea bias armour

ember bobcat
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Not really, it should. But it’s fat cupola makes it a sack of hit points for anyone to take. It should be buffed.

hollow notch
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Why shoot the cupola when I can pen the whole tank with ap?

untold stirrup
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^

ember bobcat
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Exactly

untold stirrup
#

20 km/h for a tank with not even semi-reliable armor is garbage

ember bobcat
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Yup, it should live up to its pc version. It’s slow, has bad armor but still has a massive cupola.

untold stirrup
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Even angling at 20°+ angles doesn't let you bounce because the front is just weak because of how flat or how thin some parts of the armor is there

ember bobcat
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Yup

solid gate
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@hollow notch difference is the loader of the tortoise is in that cupola sure everywhere is paper but if you wanna ruin his day even more keep hammering his cupola

hollow notch
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._.
That's just cruel

untold stirrup
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You could play a Foch stock and it would still be better than Tortoise lmao

ember bobcat
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I love the foch, tbh I like the tortoise too. It still gets bounces cuz people are dumb. But foch is light years ahead of it.

karmic nymph
#

Actually the at15 is quite deadly now.

untold stirrup
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No one specifically said AT 15 was bad. I don't like it, but it actually does better than Tortoise tier for tier while having a gun caliber much lower than that of Tortoise.

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Balancing logic 💯

candid harbor
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Balancing logic 100
at 15 recently got
buffed...
that is like saying tank A is worse now that after so many years wg decided to buff tank B to be reasonable for now and onwards

pulsar cloak
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Vk 28.01 any good?

echo knot
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good for me, but idk if for you.

solar estuary
#

Ummm guys, what happens to guys with parts to a tank but haven’t got enough parts? I have 80 parts for lekpz, will there be another chance for me to get parts?

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Also, I have watched videos for a month and got 1.5k gold. Should I buy the is5? Is it a good tank? Will there be any tier 8’s on offer soon for 2000 gold or less? Thanks guys 🙂

karmic nymph
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@solar estuary if you don’t have any other premiums get the is5, it’s the cheapest a tier 8 will be. For the bulldog, maybe you get an offer to buy it for a few bucks in the future but you gonna be waiting a while

solar estuary
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Aww man 😦
Thanks @Bob. I can’t really wait long as when school starts I have to give this tablet back to my neighbour :(
In that case I’ll just buy the is5. Thanks again Bob, you da man.

scarlet echo
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I saw the fv 215b 183 use H.E.S.H on the kravangan cupala and it penned

brave night
agile crest
#

the vk 30 tho

lord

candid harbor
pliant viper
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Tier Ten is a joke
Such bad teams

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I have 2.2 k avg damage in my Sheridan and 35 percent win rate

plucky summit
#

Ah yes, the tier is bad because of a completely unassociated subject

next solstice
#

U should try carrying

pliant viper
#

Bro you can't carry 1v4,1v5 in Sheridan,plus I got the tank yesterday

pliant viper
next solstice
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Yes you can

gentle wasp
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You average 1700 with low spots and survival. Quit blaming teams.

plucky summit
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I carried a 1v5 :p

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A 1v6 on WoT (though one died by falling)

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Unfortunately it was with the Matilda and KV-1, respectively

gentle wasp
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I won a 1v7 🙃

solid gate
#

How bruh

gentle wasp
#

magic

static harness
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"Carry harder"
My ammo capacity and or dpm prevents me from doing that (

gentle wasp
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I’ll put the vid in #replays if you’re interested

static harness
#

Was it before a update or lowtier?
Or many potatoes?

gentle wasp
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Nope normal matchmaking and not a server crash or anything

static harness
#

Oh damn

gentle wasp
#

Check it out for yourself, it’s a pretty standard game, just a lot of luck :)

static harness
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Will do when I'm home

plucky summit
#

Mayhaps I should post my seal club 1v5?

regal quarry
#

Hey I can research the Tier IV (Deutsch) Panzer IV D and the Hetzel, what should I take ?

zenith bison
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Pz iv D if u want to grind other powerfull tanks like tiger or maus

regal quarry
#

Ok i'll start with Hetzer ^^

zenith bison
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Have fun bouncing shell @regal quarry

regal quarry
#

xD xD thank you

solid gate
regal quarry
#

xDD

solid gate
#

So theres 2 td lines

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Grille one has higher dmg for paper armor until Grille
Jg. Pz E100 is armored one for less dmg but gets better at higher tiers

solid gate
#

Yeah

cloud perch
#

They adding the Kanonejagdpanzer now. Originally it had a Rheinmetall BK 90/L40 90mm cannon. Henschel and Hanomag claimed it could be fitted with a Royal Ordnance L7 105mm cannon or simply a 105mm cannon. They actually got converted to Raketenjagdpanzers, TOW Missile Carriers.

pliant viper
#

Btw can I go for t62a as my second t10?

analog verge
#

Second.hmmm ı think no.Take a heavy.62 good tank but not easy.

twilit gust
#

the 62 is the most basic med with an awesome turret armour profile, so get the 62

pliant viper
#

Hmmm ok

zenith bison
#

Kinda impossible

solid gate
#

It is a chunk of armor not directly in contact with internal structure or crew

zenith bison
#

Yea yea ikik

solid gate
#

Should I wait for kanonejagdpanzer? If its going to be cheap or smth

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So far it looks like a really good premium TD which is a nice breath of life at tier 8

subtle mason
#

Yo guys, help me out. I'm sitting on a pile of gold and may buy the ISU130+Su130PM bundle. Will it be better to buy it or to wait for kanonjgpz/scorpion? I want a premium 8 td, but not sure one invest into.

solid gate
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Wait for them they are better in almost every way

subtle mason
#

Yeah, but on the other hand it may be so that the wait will be too long.

iron galleon
#

Should i buy chruchill 3?

solid gate
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@subtle mason it’s better to wait then out ISU 130 has nothing redeemable for it and su 130Pm gets replaced by the skorp

twilit gust
subtle mason
solid gate
#

I think they are both around identical camo skorp can still move faster and has a more rotatable turret su’s gun is very unreliable for repeated concealed strikes

river jacinth
#

leopard line.. is it really good?

subtle mason
#

Yes.

echo knot
swift trout
#

I think u can equip it

echo knot
#

Okay. Thanks, mate.

brittle atlas
#

what equipment should i do for sheridan

balmy wagon
#

No, i think you need too research the tier 9 engine first

unreal sparrow
#

because wotb has no artillery but wot has artillery

subtle mason
candid harbor
#

@brittle atlas calibrated shells, less ram damage thingy, optics, gun laying drive, hp buff, engine accelerator and V stabs

brittle atlas
#

ah i see, i was running rammer and was doing the protive thing. thanks

iron galleon
hollow notch
#

Balance wise it wouldn't be that different from a 4k5

candid harbor
#

or fochy mc foch

stark sleet
#

What should I research first once I get the STA-1?

candid harbor
#

@stark sleet gun
it is the only good thing about it

stark sleet
#

Okay then, looks like I'll be having a fun time

hollow belfry
#

@stark sleet get the smexy camo and all will be fine ma dude

graceful juniper
#

is the t 15 a good tank

tepid geyser
#

For a tier 3, yes

lime rapids
#

When doe M6 EXP come?

candid harbor
#

@graceful juniper it is good to be sold for 950 guld

zealous pasture
#

T1 Heavy

viral lodge
lime rapids
#

I know But will it come back?

viral lodge
#

it will come around when it does, its a mediocre tank so its not rare. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

lime rapids
#

Is it good?

gentle wasp
#

mediocre

viral lodge
#

Matters who you ask, I dont think it is, its an anti newbie tank. Armour literally doesnt exist anywhere but front

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Even then with all the armour up front the turret is still pennable quite easily. and if you turn your hull or turret at all the side will be easy penned.

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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If you want its gun go get the T34, if you want the armour almost any other heavy would be better.

low rampart
#

The EXP is one of the few tanks I couldn't pen however I tried, meanwhile it does massive damage on your face.

gentle wasp
#

EXP is riddled with weak points. copula, turret ring, turret cheeks are all easy targets, along with a prominent drive wheel and paper sides.

viral lodge
#

^

low rampart
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When it comes full speed at your face (no pun intended), you don't have much time to aim at small weak spots. There are other heavies with bigger weak spots, the tiger 1 can be penned on the front without difficulty. Just the fact that you need to search for weak spots is harder than simply aiming lower or higher at the tank.

viral lodge
gentle wasp
#

^
Tiger 1 is a heavium, that's a terrible comparison.

solid gate
#

Tiger 1 is riddled with false hit skins too?

low rampart
#

@viral lodge Not a matter of intelligence, it's the difference between having more or less weak spots against the same tier or lower tiers. Many times you must shoot quickly with barely enough time to aim. Armor that bounces more hits also change the difficulty for that reason.

viral lodge
#

EXP is extremely easy to pen you just need to know where to aim. It can be as simple as driving to their side.

low rampart
#

Yeah, as usual with most commentary here, the git gud comes at the end.

gentle wasp
#

that's what happens when you insist on making stupid comments like that

solid gate
#

Because exp is literally an easier target to deal with than the other tier 8 American heavies

viral lodge
#

Its the EXP lol, its riddled with weak spots. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

low rampart
#

And the offenses, I love it. Not playing this game.

solid gate
#

For instance you do know the sides of exp are HE able right? even by a t49

gentle wasp
#

if you're fast enough, circle. if you're semi-fast, track and flank. if you're slow, aim. it's really not that hard.

viral lodge
#

EXP is probably the perfect example of:
"that thing is scary, I cant pen it"
learns weak spots
"this thing is free dmg ^.^"

solid gate
#

Actually wait he never even specified what tank he was using too

viral lodge
#

If he is in a tier 7 heavy then the EXP would be a pain but that would be common sense since its a T8 heavy vs a T7 one. Otherwise he should be able to flank or pen with any other class..

solid gate
#

I haven't played for a long time, I've just started playing again, but how do I put on the camouflages?

#

plase

still edge
modern summit
#

I have a question about my Kranvagn....So, I have played 128 games in it, grinded out 100% crew skill, and the Legendary Camo's have never been offered to me, ever. I can not view them in my camo menu or anything. Is my game bugged, or am I just unlucky? I know other people said they were offered to them after a few games, but 128 seems excessive

viral lodge
#

Should of popped up in your first few battles after a win.

hollow belfry
#

Chance is your pop up is bugged, i never got one for my progetto either

modern summit
#

yeah, i am at a 55% win rate on it, so that didn't happen lol

fickle hull
#

Best T8 prem in regular shop?

next solstice
#

id say the lowe

balmy wagon
#

Sometimes it's appears sometimes it don't, i didn't get vickers valiant offers too

gentle wasp
#

T34 @fickle hull

brave night
gentle wasp
#

Or Jg yea

brittle atlas
#

would sheridan be completely broken if wg gave it 960 he alpha like all other 152 mm

gentle wasp
#

Not every other 152 has that, but it would be nice for it to get 780 like the T49

brave night
#

I thought 152 have 930 he dmg

hollow notch
#

Not really, that would put it about the same as the t49 tier for tier

It would need some nerfing to compensate though, and unnecessary changes that weegee could screw up and break tier 10.

brave night
#

Is t49 op no

viral falcon
#

@brave night the only two restricting reason for it is the fact that the standard ammo is HEAT, and that the HE counts as gold ammo. Does Sheridan have these features?

brave night
#

I don’t see the difference

hollow notch
#

T49 is one of the most played tanks. People spam it even though it's a credit burner.

But the Sheridan will be balanced without having missiles. If it ain't broke, dont fix it.

brave night
#

I forgot I still had that name lol

hollow notch
#

t29, tiger1, 2, pan1 noises

brave night
#

What does need fixing is the t28

hollow notch
#

Weegee looking at their own chart
This is fine.

brave night
#

Lol

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I’m confused how it has 1% of battles

hollow notch
#

It doesn't, they just put it in because it is a tech tree

brave night
#

Tanks ONLY over 1% of battles

hollow notch
#

finds screenshot with more players in the wz120ft than t28

I'm just too lazy to find it

brave night
#

Eh I don’t see wz 120 as much

hollow notch
#

Its not spammed anymore because of the lack of hp.

solid gate
#

Emil I is really good

brave night
#

But there are prems on there @hollow notch

#

T54 mod1 type 57 or 59 cdc jg tiger 8.I

#

8.8 m1 exp thing

livid vale
#

Why choose Foch single shot over the autoloader gun?

hollow notch
#

Note that the t26e5 is not common. At all.

brave night
#

It’s by class

#

So this argument is baseless

hollow notch
brave night
#

Note the amount of players it has never says how many battles have been played in them

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In the last month

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(:

hollow notch
#

Fair enough, but those 700 t28 players are definitely not playing more than the other tds.

brave night
#

There is a reason it’s at the very bottom of the list

hollow notch
#

But the other tds are not even on the list
somehow

brave night
#

Yes but t28 had to have mor battles played

#

Because prem vehicles are not restricted from the list as you can see

#

Don’t ask me how just numbers don’t lie

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

hollow notch
#

I don't see a single tech tree missing (when the t28 is played less than other tanks that are missing) which is why I originally stated that I think it is included because it is a tech tree tank.

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯
I dunno

brave night
#

Well tech tree tanks at played Tyne most as not everyone pays money

#

Are the* (autocorrect is stupid)

#

So don’t ask me how but I mean like I said numbers don’t lie

atomic geode
#

hey!!

#

how good are the swedish heavy tanks

stuck meadow
#

Complete broken

karmic nymph
#

Yeah idk about those graphs. However maybe it’s cause it’s only ru server and people there don’t buy the premium tanks and maybe they don’t use blitzstars so those numbers are highly off

viral lodge
#

So ive heard conflicting opinions on the SU-130PM, what is the general consensus, I am deciding to either get this or wait and hope the skorp shows.

karmic nymph
#

I mean I’ve seen skorps do incredible things, but idk much about this one

solid gate
#

Why T95E6 armor is so bad. No armor at all basically. It is so rubbish to be an premium tank.

gentle wasp
#

yes because premium = OP as we all know

balmy quest
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@gentle wasp WG= well yes, but actually not
PLAYER: tell me balanced premiums
WG: t25 pilot1
PLAYER: wath about annhilator?
WG: Yes i guess
PLAYER: wath?
WG: HEYY YOU! wath about free boosters?

solid gate
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T-25 is beyond op

balmy quest
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@viral lodge skorp is better in pretty much every single way, apart russian bias

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T25 pilot 1?!?!?!!??! I hope you are joking mate

solid gate
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It has a decent armor, a gun that makes average 170 dmg (it's serious for T5) and way faster than most light tonks in same tier

viral lodge
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Wrong T25
they mean the pilot

balmy quest
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Pilot the tier 8

solid gate
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T-25 pilot is a tier 7 your thinking of the German tier 5 T-25

gentle wasp
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not even close. Pilot is good. @balmy quest

viral lodge
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Worst T8 goes to T28 lol

balmy quest
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Omg guys!!! How can you tink pilot 1 is good! You litterally have nothing
Pen=crap
Dpm= meh
Damage= bad
Armor= non existent
Mobility = meh
Gun depression = good, but u can't use ir, cuz u don't have the turret armor.

viral lodge
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You dont need turret armour to utilize gun depression lol, St Emil Exists.

gentle wasp
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it's solid in everything with really good traverse, gun depression, gun handling, and a large mantlet. don't be a whiny crate buyer, quit trashing on it.

static harness
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He just can't handle a balanced tank after all what we got till now

viral lodge
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lol

balmy quest
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Well, guys, i am not saying the tank IS shit, but i mean, this tank has no place at tier 8, there are a lot and i mean a lot of tanks tath does all wath this tank does but in a better way, it simply has no chance against tier 8 op mediums . And pilot 1 stats are better then tech tree tanks because only experienced player bought it, average players prefers to buy annhilators (btw i had it and i sold it 😉) so, why spend 5k gold for crates and(MAYBE) get a bad tank for it' tier, when you can get a solid t26e4 for 1k gold more?

viral falcon
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So now the Op is the standard as comparison? Pretty sad.

And lol, those are the tanks stats, it's not because better players have been playing it😆

static harness
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Gotta love that you can't say *** things

gentle wasp
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@balmy quest the fact that you referred to the T26E4 as "solid" frightens me.

balmy quest
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@viral falcon is not my fault, between tech tree tanks maybe the tank has it's place, but when you face a chimera... Noway you are gonna come up on top. This tank is "bad" in my opinion just for it's price, and God in crates... I bought isu122s, not because it's op, but because it was cheap

static harness
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The tank would be pretty good if t8 wasnt a lost case
Prems shouldn't be stronger as tech trees
They should only make more money
But wg went that path and now t8 is completely lost to the point where a balanced prem isn't worth it for many

gentle wasp
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@balmy quest also, find me another t8 med, tech tree or premium, that goes 50 with that kind of gun handling and that large of a mantlet.
"a lot of tanks tath does all wath this tank does but in a better way"

static harness
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If you do it right you can do good in the t25
What was your point again?

balmy quest
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@gentle wasp it's nothing special, i am just telling you tath, and the superpershing is clearly better than this

gentle wasp
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there was no point, he's just incoherently babbling about how evil WG is
@balmy quest find me a tank that does that better, and no, SP sucks.

balmy quest
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WATH

static harness
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As someone who likes speed i would rather drive the t25 around

gentle wasp
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@balmy quest first off, it is spelled "what". and secondly, yes, the SP is garbage. compare the gun and speed to the Pilot and tell me how that works. and don't tell me the armor is good, because you're clearly deluded.

balmy quest
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@static harness someone who likes speed take out a RU or a LEKPZ, not tath thing,aannd @gentle wasp i never blamed wg, i am just saying the price is a little bit high, and if you gamble buying these containers,it's TOTALLY your fault, not wg's fault, you decided to waste your moneys4

gentle wasp
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@balmy quest crates are not part of this discussion, if you're calling the Pilot poop and the Super Pershing solid, at least be able to back up your claims.

static harness
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What a surprise RU251 is one of my favourite tanks in the game
But we were talking about SP and pilot
And I said I would pick the pilot

balmy quest
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@gentle wasp dude, you said i am blabbing how evil wg is, so, make your mind clear

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Did i blamed wg for something? @static harness

gentle wasp
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you literally used the Pilot as an example to make some joke about WG. how about you make your mind clear and learn about what you're saying?

balmy quest
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Joke about wg? Can't i joke? I just sayd tath the t25 pilot is balanced, wath's wrong mate

static harness
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Excuse me but when did you say the pilot was balanced?
All i heard was "pilot bad" and more

balmy quest
gentle wasp
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"How can you tink pilot 1 is good! You litterally have nothing"
"this tank has no place at tier 8"
and you also edited the part where you said it was the worst tier 8.

balmy quest
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Btw @gentle wasp this is just my and only MY opinion, if i tink tath 25 pilot is bad, it's my opinion, and if i think tath SP is good it's my opinion,

gentle wasp
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by posting your opinion in a public forum, what did you expect?

balmy quest
gentle wasp
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I'm expressing my opinion that you are wrong and severely misguided. you are free to express your opinion but so is everyone else.

solid gate
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You can, but people WILL discuss your opinion

balmy quest
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@solid gate not tath kind of discussion, i am ok with tath

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@gentle wasp maybe i am wrong, i don't have pilot 1, but i have SP, and i really like it

karmic nymph
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So a bunch of people said it’s over priced. Fair. But it being over priced does not mean it’s bad.

static harness
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And again
People expect a op premium from crates
But they get something balanced instead
If we talk about the way to get it of course it isn't worth
But the tank itself isn't bad

gentle wasp
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exactly, you based your opinion off of popular opinion and clickbait youtubers without knowing anything about it.

balmy quest
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Ok, i am sorry, just one thing, do you tink gambling in crates is worth it for rhis ting? I didn't gamble in crates even for smasher, @static harness so i am not in search of OP tanks to boost my stats ( i wouldn't have been so stupid to sell annhilator), i was saying the price of the tank was bad, expecially in crates, don't you agree?

gentle wasp
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that is a different discussion. I am not a fan of crates in general so I will tend to say most tanks aren't worth it in that case.

static harness
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The price is bad
But most tanks are overpriced
But in the end the argument was about the tank

gentle wasp
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it's also a good example of why blitz youtubers are pretty bad, and don't help the playerbase at all, but that's for another day

balmy quest
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@gentle wasp @static harness and everyone, sorry, i must have expressed wrongly my self, i am not so confident with English, since i am italian...

gentle wasp
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I got that sense, thanks for clarifying. apologies if I came on too strong, a lot of people aren't well informed and that isn't your fault.

balmy quest
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Sorry, everyone, and one thing, last, i would like ti have it in my garage, i would like to have every premium in my garage. @gentle wasp
Btwin wath you think about su122s?

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A lot of peaple say tath it's just a su152 reskin, but i feel something different (i love the skin btw)

gentle wasp
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that's a cool goal to have.
I am not a big fan, it's a very specialized premium, you can get pretty much the same thing from the SU.
But yea that camo is really nice.

balmy quest
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@gentle wasp it feels good to outdpm tier 8s lol

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3.5k dmp (?) if i am not wrong, but for now e25 is my favourite tier 7td

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@gentle wasp sorry for all the bullshits i talked about, i am sorry, at one point i stopped understanding the whole conversation lmao

hollow belfry
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My opinion is that its a pity theyre nerfing the vickers mantlet :p

gentle wasp
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no worries mate

balmy quest
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@hollow belfry light or cr? If it is cr, then it' needed, i have it and it's too bouncy

hollow belfry
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@balmy quest i mean the light

Although the cr's turret around the mantlet is more of a problem than the mantlet itself, actually the cr is quite op overall lol

balmy quest
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@gentle wasp thank you for accepting my apologies, also, if you want add me in game... Maybe we could platoon, my ign is manumagic_ita

gentle wasp
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if you're on NA send a friend request my way. same as here.

hollow belfry
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How wholesome~

balmy quest
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@gentle wasp oof i am on EU

gentle wasp
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:(

balmy quest
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Rip, i can create a server on NA, but we have to play tier 1 in tath case lmao

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Or 2

scarlet echo
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Kv1s has horrible accuracy

gentle wasp
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it's a Russian 122 at tier 6 what do you expect

plucky summit
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Oh hey they took the concept of T-2020 and applied it to the Pilot to say it's bad. Pilot's nothing special, and T-2020 isn't very redeeming yet... yet, but T-2020 wasn't bad at all

scarlet echo
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The su 152 has more better accuracy then kv1s

hollow notch
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Now they are slapping 10mm on the front and 20 on the sides. Might get a bit scary. Maybe.

plucky summit
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They're also buffing the turret

hollow notch
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Ya, 10mm on the front. Turret included

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@scarlet echo you don't need great accuracy when you are face to face with your enemy.
Also, unlike many guns, you dont have to aim for weakspots. Hitting a tank is basically a guaranteed pen

scarlet echo
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I aimed fully in the panther side and the bullet just went to the track wheels

gentle wasp
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that happens in literally every tank

swift trout
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Imagine calling it a bullet, lol

untold stirrup
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If you wanted help/reviews in game mechanics I really would not recommend WoTB youtubers. Instead, look at the game mechanic tutorials from the WoT NA official channel, or a WoT youtuber like Quickybaby. I have nothing against some WoTB youtubers but most of them don't post content that really helps someone know more about playing well.

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Aside from that, I would like some tips for the FV215b(183).

lyric oriole
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Run Calibrated on it

FV215b 183 is a second line tank, it has enough accuracy to not have to be point blank, it doesn't have enough camo to snipe (but it can with maxed camo Crew skill and camo net).

You should can support your medium tanks and use your alpha alone as a fear factor to help your allied meds push up against the opponents. If you are playing a second line role be wary of going to areas where you can get hit from enemy tank destroyers.

You may also second line with your allied heavies. It's much easier then with the mediums, the idea here is to eliminate health from the ones that are piñatas, effectively the ones that will try to absorb damage for their team. Kill the confidence of a heavy and the team starts to grind to a halt you should be using AP mostly on the heavies, the HESH even with calibrated shells is too inconsistent on heavies. AP is still a solid 930 alpha so don't get greedy.

(This is only if you have the maxed camo Crew skill, camo net, and camo paint): If playing long range, you should be focusing on key targets: Other snipers, scouts, line breakers Line breakers are heaviums or other well armored tanks that can push and take a beating without repercussions such as AMX 50 B, or E 50 M (yes I know 50M can potentially get ruined but it's still in the category)

You should be running Supercharged shells at this range because the velocity is fairly low and sudden movements by the enemy will throw off your shots. HESH at this range is a bit risky so stick to AP primarily just like against the heavy tanks in a second line setting. Save the HESH as a hail mary or self defense.

untold stirrup
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Ok thanks!

solid gate
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The VK 100.01 in game is the K 3381 but it don't have the planned 150 mm

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Should I spend my money on the SU-130PM? liek I'm asking is it worth it?

swift trout
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@solid gate
Soviet TD collector Да, yes
Not? NO

solid gate
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No in stores for NA

hollow notch
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@solid gate eh, wait for the price to drop. It's not all that great

solid gate
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Is the fvb215b 183 still worth the grind? And can a mediocre player still use it well?

hollow notch
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@solid gate 183 is bad, and the line is terrible
Go for the jagd e100 for a big gun td

solid gate
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I just want the fvb215b 183 for the massive alpha, and because I kind of like the kv2 playstyle.

untold stirrup
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It's only worth the grind if you have a ton of free xp. AT 15 has some nice DPM though. But please, for the sake of your sanity skip the Tortoise if possible with free xp unless WG buffs it by the time you get there.

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183 isn't particularly worth it unless you want fun. If you want fun, then go ahead. But the grind is far from fun.

hollow notch
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The 183 has a turret, yes, but the rear mouting+paper armor makes it far worse for working corners than a sidescraping jag100

solid gate
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Would you say that jage100 is harder to play?

untold stirrup
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I hate the Jg, lmao. 183 is definitely harder to play but I cannot stand the awful movement dispersion values on Jg, it has a casemate which is why it's made so much worse than it normally would be.

hollow notch
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The jag has a wide gun arc for a casemate. The 183 is a giant paper box that everyone tunnels as soon as they see it.

untold stirrup
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The gun arc is indeed wide, but unless you're sidescraping, it doesn't make much of a difference around corners.

hollow notch
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Better than a 183 ._.

solid gate
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Well 183 is pretty much dead the second it's spotted but well +1k damage is fun. It hit me 1.6k damage once

hollow notch
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T110e4 and 4k5 are the only tier 10 tds for me.

untold stirrup
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Yes, but I personally dislike it very much. Movement dispersion values are a deal breaker for me, makes the tank hardcore second line unless you can find somewhere to sidescrape or hide lower plate.

solid gate
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But I was able to death circle it with a waffle so yeaa

untold stirrup
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Jag is kinda crap for frontlining, even 268 with less armor can do the job better because it's not hindered by awful movement dispersion values imo

hollow notch
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You don't need aim when you are frontline :)
Just dpm, alpha, and pen (a hp pool is nice, but that's an entirely different problem)

coarse lava
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Is su130pm good?

hollow notch
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It's not bad

coarse lava
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Anyone know when 121b coming back cause I just bought 15k gold

hollow notch
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Gonna be a while because it was recently sold. Probably after Christmas

coarse lava
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):

untold stirrup
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@hollow notch you have no idea how many shots I missed while frontlining in jag. It simply cannot hold a flank well. I have missed shots at even 50m before, and those were center shots on mediums taken with about 2 seconds of aim which should have been enough to get hits but nope.

hollow notch
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Aim betterermore gooder nub

untold stirrup
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Uh no, not with such terrible movement dispersion values. I'd much rather use a derp gun like on Sheri.

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Literally the most frustrating gun I have ever used in WoTB

hollow notch
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^ that is a reason why I absolutely hate turretless tanks. Having to turn the tank, opposed to just moving straight forward and backward to get a shot really slows down the aiming process.

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T110e4 best td

untold stirrup
solid gate
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Lol

hollow notch
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My reason:
Turretless tanks suck
My other options are 183(still a crippling gun arc) or 4k5 (impossible to find cover for it)

untold stirrup
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I mean E4 is a good TD but it's not underrated for no reason...

hollow notch
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I would take an e100 over any td for doing td things

untold stirrup
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Yeah, funny how that makes some turretless TDs irrelevant especially when using calibrated

hollow notch
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Or a leopard 1 for doing other td things

jade saddle
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What is a good premium medium tank or heavy

tulip sail
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The m4 rev or the t26e5

hollow notch
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@jade saddle you are gonna have to narrow those options a bit.

jade saddle
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Ok well I like a well rounded tank I’m preferably a medium tanker high alpha is always a plus and something I’ll enjoy playing and I’m willing to pay for it

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Idk if that’s enough and makes decent creds and do if played correctly ofc

hollow notch
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Chimera is the best alpha medium currently. It's a bit lacking in mobility, but it has a solid gun

untold stirrup
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T54E2 is a choice, and so is Chimera.

hollow notch
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Second on that t54. Its disgusting to play it with how strong it is.

untold stirrup
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T54E2 is a downtiered T110E5, but with better turret armor and a slightly higher top speed. Pretty overpowered...

jade saddle
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Is it in store rn

hollow notch
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T54e2>emil 1
T54 armor holds up to gold rounds, the emil does not.

untold stirrup
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Short answer: Yes but it's expensive.

fast compass
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I thought it was getting out of store yesterday. Maybe has a day or two ig

hollow notch
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@fast compass yea, the timer is screwed up on it.

untold stirrup
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12.5k gold, nearly $50 USD :D

hollow notch
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Got mine from mystery crates :)
4.5k gold ez along with a amx301er

untold stirrup
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bRuH