How to play wz111 5a?i got it out of mystery certificate
#vehicles-discussion
open solstice
lyric copper
play it like IS-7 without weak ammorack
hollow notch
Always move around with it. The hull and turret have parts that are an easy pen surrounded by parts that are excessively strong.
deep hearth
No but can you actually say why? Like is something on it bad that makes it horrible ?
hollow notch
@untold stirrup imagine this
Just imagine
Now compare to literally any other tank.
This is tiny
mellow crane
Tankenstein has one of the slowest hull traverse speeds in the game, about 23°/s, and sht gun handling @deep hearth
hollow notch
(I came here because of slowmode)
untold stirrup
If you're poking over a ridgeline it's not like someone is not going to be able to aim at that within a 100m range. Trust me, I've tried using ridgelines before and it doesn't work unless you're shooting from range.
pliant viper
Any idea how to use missiles
Just got big gun on t92
Want to use missiles before they go
I play on a phone btw
hollow notch
It works plenty. If you peek it diagonally, many noobs cant take that shot. If they are good players, the gun can easily lol the shells.
Also you have scary alpha and dpm to work with
untold stirrup
Also doesn't solve the fact that it has one of the tallest "foreheads" on a turret in the game. Any reasonable player will take the opportunity to snap a shot into you with their medium tank.
lyric copper
aim gun up, look at target with lookout mode (in settings), calculate the trajectory and fire
pliant viper
Ok thanks
untold stirrup
I don't even use ridgelines to begin with for that reason so I do fine in Grille
hollow notch
Sure, they might shoot you. You have bigger alpha. They will regret it more
lyric copper
test out the tightest missile turns you can do in a training room btw @pliant viper
untold stirrup
It's not an effective tactic to trade with any tier 10 tank in Grille unless they have low HP.
You'll end up bleeding hp that you need later
hollow notch
I call 310 for 640 a solid trade when mediums have the same hp pools
I go by the cripple the enemy team early and die early philosophy. None of this save ur hp business
untold stirrup
Why would you bleed hp if you can just shoot tanks with careful peeks from around a corner and avoid taking a hit to begin with?
lyric copper
because what if my enemy isn’t around said corner + they willingly hold fire just for me
hollow notch
._.
Carefully peeks around a corner?
Bruh
Carefully peek a ridge
Its basically the same effect, except the grille is so tall that peeking a corner has a ton of tank exposed
A gun depression buff would just open up a ton of possibilities for the grille
untold stirrup
Ridgelining doesn't seem to work well from experience when you're limited to 7° of GD at maximum. I play against Grilles and whenever I see them do the same they just bleed hp and die early.
Which is why I prefer corners because at least you aren't reversing with that bad reverse speed but instead going forward behind the hard cover that is a wall after firing much faster.
Of course if the enemy is holding fire for you might as well just trade and watch them realize that maybe it's not a good idea to trade and they'll back off, at the cost of some hp.
deep hearth
@mellow crane Gun handling is better than some Russian tanks.
hollow notch
Thats not saying much
The thing that really holds the Stein back is the lack of anything. The armor doesn't work, mobility is extremely bad, dpm is extremely bad, the alpha isn't even amazing.
And if you do use the 105mm gun, you get a great mantlet. But it still has a hatch. And the t29 exists
deep hearth
Armor works, i can easily bounce shells, it's a tiger P without the massive cupola. Mobility is okay, i have seen worse, DPM can be handled, and we can see you never got a high roll on the premium AP to say alpha isn't great
lyric copper
pretty sure tankenstine is one of the slowest tier 7 HTs?
deep hearth
KV3 is really close
hollow notch
@deep hearth just know that the smasher has a better reload. And even if it spams heat, it still has better alpha.
gentle wasp
it's a Tiger P with no copula, but a huge hatch, larger profile, less mobility, and a much worse gun than the German 88
lyric copper
you can literally play any of the tanks that make up the tankenstine and they are all better (except for the KV-4, which is a tier 8, so of course it’s better)
deep hearth
Just know you will never bounce a Smasher, he can easily bounce.
Also if Tankenshtein's gun sucks, any T8 is-like gun sucks even more
hollow notch
Other than the 6 second reload difference, yea
gentle wasp
KV-4 is much better tier for tier. And the IS tanks are backed up by mobility and armor as well. it's not just about the gun.
hollow notch
Lol
gentle wasp
yikes
deep hearth
Alright. Who here has the actual tank?
hollow notch
._.
Me
deep hearth
The thing is a pure monster of facehugg. You should try it.
gentle wasp
doubt
deep hearth
Also sidescrapping works well with it.
Keep doubting, the thing eats anihilators for breakfast
hollow notch
I'm gonna ask, have you tried smasher, annihilator, or t29?
lyric copper
ever heard of prammo?
deep hearth
I have T29 AND Anihilator, yet i think the tankenshtein is good
hollow notch
._.
Interesting tastes.
I love my kv5, yet it is still a garbage tank
hollow moth
Gotta be honest, I kinda like to play TOG, no sarcasm
deep hearth
Also jeez it can shoot at medium range and deal full damage, that's one thing over the Anihilator
lyric copper
but you have to stop and aim+ mediocre shell vel.
hollow moth
Ye
deep hearth
Because you don't have to do that in Anihilator?
gentle wasp
The Annihilator has better gun handling and pen, giving it a better chance to deal damage even at medium range. Also has more mobility to set up shots.
deep hearth
The Tankenshtein has more pen than anihilator on both guns, so okay apcr exists, but still.
gentle wasp
on the big gun it has 171-196 and Annihilator has 170-220.
pulsar cloak
At2 is tough
lyric copper
well it was designed as an assault tank
yes I’ve seen it
pliant viper
Equipment set for t92?
pliant viper
Xm551 is the Sheridan...
modest relic
I know
brittle atlas
what equipment and provisions/consumable should i have for the bulldog? atm its stock and i have both fuel provisions and no equipment
snow gull
id have to say faster reload, repair modual and three in one repair kit
lyric oriole
@brittle atlas don't run both fuel, do Big Fuel, Big Food, and Small food
Being stock crew mastery is gonna help you a lot more
And generally speaking small fuel is useless
brittle atlas
ah ok o wise one
rose venture
So I hear the bc is getting an intra-clip reload of 2.75 seconds? Wish it was 2.5 but I’ll take it
near adder
12.5k gold t54e2 worth it yes or no?
rose venture
Meh I wouldn’t get it but that’s because I’m stingy with gold. I bet it’ll come cheaper later if you wait
upper jolt
Is it even a good tank? I've only seen it once and I couldnt tell
rose venture
Yes it doesn’t really have many negatives
hollow notch
Its (probably) the best 105 in tier 8 currently, but as amx13 105 said, it will be cheaper later
near adder
True enough I probably will save for Black Friday and Christmas
upper jolt
t54 vs 121b golden dragon
rose venture
Hmm would you say it better than action X I wonder?
near adder
Action X isn’t that good tbh it’s turret is pathetic any tank with half decent pramo can go through it like butter
rose venture
Oof, @upper jolt are you asking about tank or camo preference
upper jolt
I got action x. I dont like it because it has low alpha.
hollow notch
@rose venture yes, alpha is always good
rose venture
Fair
hollow notch
Also, the frontal profile if the lower plate is smaller
rose venture
It more mobile too (I think)
near adder
T54E2 does have a large turret ring tho easy to hit and pen
hollow notch
Armor is basically equal, but I would take the gun on the shark almost every time over the AX
rose venture
Lorraine or Rev?
near adder
Shark has far better turret armor and more troll hull armor imo
Lorraine or Rev?
@rose venture I only own rev but it’s very fun super high dpm for a t8 med especially for 350 alpha
hollow notch
The shark turret stands up to gold ammo very well
rose venture
I think they both come in the auction so I’m just thinking on it
gentle wasp
Shark and AX isn’t a great comparison (I would use Sheriff) but the Shark is probably the best 310 tank at t8 and there are a lot of them.
hollow notch
@gentle wasp the only real difference on the shark and AX is the gun, other than that you can treat them basically the same
rose venture
Aight
gentle wasp
I still think Sheriff is a better counterpart because the profile and playstyle are a lot different for the Shark
hollow notch
The sheriff is a lot weaker hull wise
But after looking at these 3, I am quite amused
Was it really necessary to give the shark a great gun with that much armor?
gentle wasp
@hollow notch would it be worth it to buy stuff on armor inspector to see that? And do you ever use the ramming/module parts?
hollow notch
@gentle wasp for pointing out things here, it's great
Ramming is pretty useless, and the new tanks don't even show modules
If you are looking to improve how you play, its probably useless to you, as you have a lot of experience
For education of noobs though, you cant find a better source when it comes to armor profiles
I also use it for wotpc, so that is nice
nocturne sage
They should give the the t32 the t54 sharks 105 as it top gun and the SP 90 as it’s stock gun
karmic nymph
@gentle wasp if you just care about the armor thickness you don’t need to pay, just look at the tank model. But that doesn’t tell you if it will pen or not
gentle wasp
@hollow notch yea I mean more for here, it is kind of annoying to point stuff out when you don't have the exact hitskin. Just planning for Christmas, thanks 😉
@karmic nymph oh yea it still works fine but for education purposes the full visual is a lot more helpful.
solid gate
I think the emil 1 needs nerf
fluid sand
I think the emil 1 needs nerf
@solid gate Its pen balances it enough, i mean its weakness is close quarters combat, yes its armor is well angled and sloped, but facehugging it makes the armor weak, if your tank has both a good enough height plus good gun dep angles, you should be able to pen the emil with relative ease, and dont forget its mag reloads around 20 seconds so you should be able to land 2-5 hits if you aim properly
But yea its mag does hurt alot if all shells pen, but as long as you wiggle your armor, you should be alright, if youre in a medium or a light tank, then try to permatrack or flank it alot, and keep gunning it down
scarlet echo
Can the jg pz 100 pen the e100 upper plate with H.E.A.T?
fluid sand
Can the jg pz 100 pen the e100 upper plate with H.E.A.T?
@scarlet echo If you have cali shells, but i dont think it would work, The Ho-Ri's 5 deg normalization angle with its prammo should be able to pry it open easily unlike HEAT which have no normalization angle
scarlet echo
Wow
fluid sand
Basically AP shells tend to have more reliable pen cuz its normalization angle makes armor thinner, its good against sloped armor. But apcr is somewhat superior due to better flight performance
scarlet echo
So ho ri can pen e100 with prammo??
fluid sand
cali shells can make chances high, but well it depends
scarlet echo
Ok
fluid sand
SO E-100's UFP is 440mm thick, Ho-Ri with cali shells could pen it because of normalization, with prammo because it becomes 370mm thick
I calculated it in blitz hangar, i might be wrong but well
fluid sand
On the hull that is, the turret is around 290-300 so prammo should butter it
scarlet echo
I thought the turret of the e100 front was 250mm
solid gate
How to play KV-4 and equipment for it?
prime plinth
Wg should add the T-100LT
fluid sand
Ltwt with a better gun, yet what about the Tier 9? We have the E1, the 25 T AP, the Cruiser, now a new tier 9 lt can make things interesting
solid gate
WG should add new tech line.. and russian Obj 705a as tier X
They also should add new TD line to Germany and bring back the legend WT auf. E 100 as tier X on that line
Rammer or calibrated on KV-4?
American Tanks a little hard to get penetrated true or false?
fluid sand
Their manlets are thick enough to take a hit, but yea, most of the time their sides vulnerable to HE/HESH with more than 76mm of pen
fluid sand
Use it against cardboard targets like Nashorn or Hellcat, and use it againt tanks with alot of armor but have very very low hp left
solid gate
oh thanks
azure carbon
i just tried to talk about how i like the T1 heavy than the KV-1 and now theres a big argument in a steam discussion page, IM SCARED
btw should i buy the M4/FL10
strange crag
Definitely, it's a very strong clipper.
But remember it doesn't hv any armour. It has decent mobility. @azure carbon
keen escarp
I am buying it
azure carbon
Definitely, it's a very strong clipper.
But remember it doesn't hv any armour. It has decent mobility. @azure carbon
@strange crag i kinda wanna pass on tanks that dont have armor lol
hollow moth
@azure carbon M4/FL10 os incredible, but listen me before buy it
Anyone can think that it's a bad tank because of the DPM, penetration, size, lack or armor or lack of gun depression, but the auto loader cannon and the agility makes the tank very convenient for almost every situation
hollow notch
Autoreloaders are op
hollow moth
Want long range support? You can do it! Just use the first shell to maximize your DPM and be happy with your fast shots and medium tank concealment
Want to flank? You can! With your speed, agility and damage burst you can do 480 damage fastly
Want to delete enemy lights? You can also do it! Just use the first shell to maximize your DPM and use the full burst when your enemy HP is bellow 500
But there's 2 little problems that every unnarmored tier 7 have to deal; Annihilator and Smasher
hollow notch
Or just shoot whenever you have shots. The clip fills up so fast that the slight difference in dpm does not matter
azure carbon
But there's 2 little problems that every unnarmored tier 7 have to deal; Annihilator and Smasher
@hollow moth coughs in KV-2, just destroyed a hellcat with one shot lol
hollow moth
KV-2 can be easily dealt by M4/FL10 actually
The frontal hull is almost full anti HE, the cannon also DPM out easily the KV-2
azure carbon
is the Skirmish mode any good btw
hollow moth
In tier 7 it's quite obvious, I'll not bother you to answer about this tier
solid gate
Skirmish is the worst and most lazy mode wg has made to date
azure carbon
poggers
hollow moth
I'd say this is actually the Burning games @solid gate
solid gate
Burning games at least was able to intensify profits and EXP gained skirmish is just laughable
hollow moth
Burning games are literraly just two powers from mad games (I did forget that game mode name, but it's that one with 3 lifes for each tank) , but mixed, lol
low rampart
KV-2 can only be "easily dealt with" if a noob plays it, if you even peek in the direction of a good player it's 600 damage in your face.
azure carbon
14 wins with KV-2 and 13 Defeat with it, bruh
hollow moth
@low rampart so what? 600 damage is only good if you actually can hit your enemy, if you can penetrate your enemy or if you can deal with your reload
KV-2 is just an overrated bad tank, it's only good with 107mm cannon, but this cannon also don't fit for it
scarlet echo
Will there be a black Friday sale?
hollow moth
Soon @scarlet echo
scarlet echo
K
hollow moth
KV-2 in which cannon? The 152mm? Nah
- Horrible precision
- The aim time is as long as TOG 2
- Untrustworthy main AP shell pen
- Super long reload
- Untrustworthy armor
- Easily spotted
- Focused by enemies, because of the cannon
- It can only trust in the alpha, but if you miss one shot, you'll be probably dead soon
- Easily DPMed out
Yeah, the IS is quite good but nothing like "wow best tech tree tier 7 heavy'
low rampart
@hollow moth Good players make the difference. The potential for massive damage and great positioning is significant. It's just hard to learn for most players.
You can control a flank from a distance, and just the fact that a KV2 is far away aiming at your side is enough to scare the enemy and make them react. You can't risk losing that much health.
rich condor
by the way, the tank "IS" its good?
@azure carbon demn IS was good af
azure carbon
You can control a flank from a distance, and just the fact that a KV2 is far away aiming at your side is enough to scare the enemy and make them react. You can't risk losing that much health.
@low rampart also if you have a competete team that will take the shoots for you and you will just do the DPS, needless to say though i miss most of my shots but sometimes i dont because RNG, waiting for the aim time is like waiting for a kick in the balls
low rampart
@azure carbon The IS tank is a great heavy tank if you max it up and use the higher dpm gun. It's a fast heavy tank.
azure carbon
Any heavy tank besides the IS that is worth getting?
iron galleon
@azure carbon The IS tank is a great heavy tank if you max it up and use the higher dpm gun. It's a fast heavy tank.
@low rampart and the is 3?
hollow moth
You know how to deal with KV-2?
It's pretty simple and easy
Heavies: Use your armor to avoid KV-2 using it's main AP (which have low penetration), then you can DPM it out easily cuz your enemy probably won't have time to shot 3 Prammos or more than 2 HE
Meds: there you have a lot of strategies;
- Hull down if you have a strong turret (face hug may work if you have a low profile)
- Circle it if your tank is fast enough
- Peek and boom at long distance
- Shoot and change your position if your med doesn't have anything special
Light: Circle of death, LMAO
TD: just camp and DPM it out, LMAO, spam prammo if you're a SU-100Y@low rampart
Cool fact: KV-2 and Smasher don't have gun depression enough to hit an E25 if it face hug 'em
rich condor
annoying roach!
low rampart
@iron galleon The IS-3 is one tier higher and it's more of a traditional heavy tank, not as fast as the IS, you have to move it to use the sloped armor in your favor.
azure carbon
Light: dies before circling you out, Med: depends if its dumb or smart, most i get are dumb , Heavies: they get destroyed before they even shoot you , or they get really damaged , Tank destroyers: if you catch them off guard great but if you dont you're going to get destroyed, 100%
iron galleon
Any heavy tank besides the IS that is worth getting?
@azure carbon tiger 1, emil 1, black prince, dont use amx.
@iron galleon The IS-3 is one tier higher and it's more of a traditional heavy tank, not as fast as the IS, you have to move it to use the sloped armor in your favor.
@low rampart it has weak front armor for td and heavy
azure carbon
i can say that the SU-85 sucks btw
hollow moth
How would you catch someone off guard of your concealment, view range and aim time are horrible? Lol @azure carbon
azure carbon
@azure carbon tiger 1, emil 1, black prince, dont use amx.
@low rampart it has weak front armor for td and heavy
@iron galleon I've fought black prince, his sides appear to be paper, AMX paper as well, emil 1 never fought it, Tiger 1 also fought it, it was also kind of paper, but Tiger quite made a challenge for me
low rampart
@hollow moth Don't get me wrong, KV-2 is more of a myth in Blitz and ww2 history.
Only a good player can really threaten your game. Most of the time you peek and shoot at them, the player loses the shot, you have half an hour to kill them off.
@iron galleon The sloped armor can bounce many hits, you have to move the tank constantly.
hollow moth
"Heavies: they get destroyed before they even shoot you, or they get really damaged"
Tell it to a VK 36.01 H or an ARL 44, LMAO @azure carbon
solid gate
Laughs in VK 36.01 H
azure carbon
i destroyed an ARL 44 facing it face to face, dont talk to me with the Vk, that thing was paper, lol
iron galleon
@iron galleon I've fought black prince, his sides appear to be paper, AMX paper as well, emil 1 never fought it, Tiger 1 also fought it, it was also kind of paper, but Tiger quite made a challenge for me
@azure carbon tiger 1 you have to use sidescraping. Tiger 2 is real hard. Or if you want good armor, go for vk100.01p
hollow moth
This thing was paper? I'm gonna show you the "paper" @azure carbon
solid gate
If u think vk 36 is paper then IG Maus is a med tonk to u
azure carbon
im sorry but that thing just went vanish with the HE in like, what, 3 shots i think=
sinful epoch
bottom tier against the maus line heavies is a nightmare tbh. literally can't even pen the lower plate or the cupola.
solid gate
U mean E 100 line?
hollow moth
@azure carbon one picture is prammo and other is normal AP
Also, you won't have time to shot 3 HE
azure carbon
cool but i use HE sorry, ARMOR is not my language
sinful epoch
I think its really only the 100.01. tier 8 at least has better pen to armor ratios against mauschen but tier seven pen just couldn't cut it.
hollow moth
Good luck doing about 300 damage in 18 seconds @azure carbon
The VK 36.01 H and ARL 44 competes for being the most broken heavies of the whole tier 6
One have a dangerously overcooked armor and two confortable cannons. Other have a very good frontal armor, a broken cannon and an actual good agility
azure carbon
you can do 300 damage or more with the KV-2 its very rare when it goes lower than that idk what you talkin bout
ARL 44 proceeds to do 200 damage to my KV-2 and i do 300+ damage to him
hollow moth
300+ damage in 18 seconds, meanwhile ARL does a bit more than 200 in less than 10, a contradiction? Yeah
solid gate
So I have Rhm with stock suffering gun with 241mm pen, which should be able to pen pretty much all German heavies except Maus in paper. But I failed to pen many T8 heavies, and some T9 (ahem Mauschen) were totally red
What the hell is going on?
azure carbon
do you know what hiding behind a rock is? ** D o i t**
hollow moth
And you really think that the ARL won't be waiting you or neither getting advantage by distance?
low rampart
The best tanks are the ones you don't even try and win, VK 36 and ARL perform that action.
sinful epoch
@solid gate including the cupolas, lower plates, etc.?
solid gate
Yes
azure carbon
no because the arl 44 of many matches i've faced hided , and appeared when i already had reloaded
hollow moth
VK 36 and ARL are like the Smashers of tier 6, unless if you are too good or too luck you can win one of them when played by a decent player
The funniest thing I saw on this night was that guy saying VK 36 is paper, lol
sinful epoch
Huh. My only guess at this point would be angling.
low rampart
I use the gun and equipment which increase pen in the VK 36. The speed compensates these advantages.
azure carbon
"angle at 90 degrees to penetrate" -- wot blitz
hollow moth
@azure carbon many doesn't mean all the times
In some of them you failed, know why? Because of 18 secs reload (which is more than two times longer than ARL 44 reload)
azure carbon
Reload can be longer but if the guy with the 10 seconds reload cant aim its fairly different, in this case, all ARL 44 i faced couldnt aim
hollow moth
Bruh my comment got deleted from nowhere
As I would say; "All ARL 44 I faced couldn't aim"
Pretty doubtful, veeery doubtful
Well, I gotta to stop because I don't want a warn/mute for mocking others, but there's a real fact, you should stop biasing KV-2@azure carbon
haughty quiver
Hmm arl44
azure carbon
i even have replays but okay
robust crescent
Does anyone know when update 7.5 comes?
Want to make sure I still have time to research Sheridan
hollow moth
@robust crescent Mid December, maybe 20th
Replays don't proof nothing about how good is a tank, meanwhile you show 5 replays, other players can show more 20 @azure carbon
Even me can do a replay doing decently in T28, but it'll never be an excuse for say that it's a good tank
robust crescent
Okay I hope it’s around that time because that’s reasonable time to grind
azure carbon
@robust crescent Mid December, maybe 20th
Replays don't proof nothing about how good is a tank, meanwhile you show 5 replays, other players can show more 20 @azure carbon
@hollow moth its my experience, you cant change my experience to how you like it and say thats how it has to be
hollow moth
Even me can do a replay doing decently in T28, but it'll never be an excuse for say that it's a good tank
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azure carbon
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@hollow moth Other people, not me , i dont think as others
hollow moth
Anyways, replays don't proof anything about a tank
A replay doing steel wall medal in RU 251 doesn't mean that it have a good armor, neither a replay doing bad on Smasher to proof that it's bad
azure carbon
keyword: a replay , im not showing A replay im showing 15-10 replays
hollow moth
So? I have 60% wr on TOG 2, it's not a reason to say that it's a good tank tho, I could (because those replays got deleted) show all my battle replays and say "TOG 2 is too OP", but this would be fake news
Someone in somewhere may have 60% wr in a lot of battles on T28, but this will never be a proof to say "Hey T28 isn't that bad"
Same goes for KV-2, you do good on it? Cool, but this doesn't proof much, it only proof that you do well on it
azure carbon
oh my god he brought up WR .-., im outta here , he will just keep going
hollow moth
But am I wrong? The fact that Someone does good in a tank is meaningless to talk about how good is a tank @azure carbon
low rampart
The Tiger P is so good I've had more than 100k exp on it and still haven't bought the equipments yet. I never felt I needed them.
rustic tulip
tbh a good player will do well in any given tank even if it's bad
hollow moth
Exactly, I'm an incredible T14 player, does it mean that it's OP? I doubt so
balmy wagon
But for real, KV 2 isn't that good
rose venture
Bruh wg be so scared to give bat chat a .5 sec shorter reload because balance then they go off and add shit like the smasher??? Like wut
hollow moth
The same persons that are scared of 2.5 intraclip are the same that think "hmmm giving a 1000+mm armor plate around all Lycan's internal modules is fair"
rose venture
🤔
balmy wagon
Batchat is already decent tank actually, i think it's gonna be broke
rose venture
I never said it was bad but really 2.75 second is the best they could do?
hollow moth
Yeah, Lycan really have a 1000+mm armor around every single internal module @rose venture
rose venture
Tf
balmy wagon
Yeahh it can't be damage
hollow moth
Haven't you noticed why it's impossible to damage it's ammo rack for exemple? That's why
fast compass
It was wg way of giving it unbreakable modules. Not even HE can splash through 1000mm thick armour
rose venture
Never see the Lycan tbh
balmy wagon
The modules
rose venture
If wg adds the amx 13 105 I will forgive them of their sins for exactly a week tho
hollow moth
Bruh, it's just a pointless BP tank from 2019, nothing interesting but the unbreakable modules @rose venture
rose venture
I know what it is I mean I don’t see it much in battle
fast compass
It has only been sold directly last year in October but since then it only appeared in crates a few times. Basically not sold enough to be that common
hollow moth
Maybe because it is pretty rare, you know why? Because it's just another pointless tier 7, people didn't get interested and didn't try it's box or it's BP only for the tank
This tank just pretend to be OP, but it's not even far from meta
neat nimbus
is a worth the is 6?
hollow moth
Yeah, but better wait for black Friday, you'll see better tanks for much less price @neat nimbus
neat nimbus
Yeah, but better wait for black Friday, you'll see better tanks for much less price @neat nimbus
@hollow moth im waiting for a good tank my choice is the jagtiger 8.8 or the french sherman
but what kind of tank anyone thinks are coming for black friday
still oyster
Lol the ones WG will make us break out our wallets for, of course.
neat nimbus
any list?
hollow moth
The Ravioli Sherman is good but not newbie friendly, it demands some skill to be played well
Jagdtiger 8,8 got buffs recently, it's a worthy tank nowadays
but what kind of tank anyone thinks are coming for black friday
No idea, I'm only sure that T34 1776 and KV-5 will appear
neat nimbus
The Ravioli Sherman is good but not newbie friendly, it demands some skill to be played well
Jagdtiger 8,8 got buffs recently, it's a worthy tank nowadays
No idea, I'm only sure that T34 1776 and KV-5 will appear
@hollow moth im hoping for action x or 2uwhatever is the russian heavy maybe a tier 5 collector or premiun
still oyster
A collector pack of the ones they dont run into the ground selling nonstop
neat nimbus
I hope find cool tanks
open solstice
Wz111 5a turret is broken lol
400+ mm all round on front means anything taller approaches you,just face hug and wiggle your gun,nothing can literally pen it(except jagpze100 or hori running calibrated shells of course)
The speed is also very nice,unlikely 113 slow traverse
turbid thunder
Should I run the Standard B with the stock gun or the top gun ? Better DPS or more Pen ?
solid gate
Top gun the other gun is terrible lol
pastel drum
Wz111 5a turret is broken lol
400+ mm all round on front means anything taller approaches you,just face hug and wiggle your gun,nothing can literally pen it(except jagpze100 or hori running calibrated shells of course)
The speed is also very nice,unlikely 113 slow traverse
@open solstice uuum if a taller tank facehugs you, they will butcher your hatches
open solstice
@pastel drum that's why you wiggle your gun
Obviously i won't facehug anyone for fun
But every single german heavy that tried facehugging me,i just keep moving my gun and they spam HE only
solid gate
That’s a sign they shouldn’t be at that tier
open solstice
@solid gate lmao yea
I face sooo many e100 that just want to face hug
I sidehug them and they regret playing
pastel drum
sidehugging is not the same as facehugging
facehugging pretty much means you are stationary right in front of the enemy. Sidehugging on the other hang allows you to constantly move back and forth throwing off the aim of your opponent, at which the 5A is good at. 2 completely different concepts
open solstice
@pastel drum for me atleast,both cases work in 5A
While facehugging,players don't have good enough aim to hit the hatches and sidehugging,they don't stand a chance unless they have teammate to help them
Sure,good players know how to deal with hugs easily
But how many times can you encounter them?
pastel drum
sidehugging is a very viable strat with the 5A. However if you are facehugging I am pretty sure all the taller tanks can butcher your hatches as the wiggling won't do as much, sine the hatches are not troll. Also I don't play heavies, so I never get sidehugged.
Even if you are a shorter tank you can still hit the hatches of a facehugging 5A
raven spade
@iron galleon bro, I'm also from India but get real here: Indian tanks like Arjun suck
solid gate
@solid gate Its pen balances it enough, i mean its weakness is close quarters combat, yes its armor is well angled and sloped, but facehugging it makes the armor weak, if your tank has both a good enough height plus good gun dep angles, you should be able to pen the emil with relative ease, and dont forget its mag reloads around 20 seconds so you should be able to land 2-5 hits if you aim properly
@fluid sand true it really hurts with my tiger ii when all the shells pen
dusk hamlet
please nerf the fckin emil 1
iron galleon
@iron galleon bro, I'm also from India but get real here: Indian tanks like Arjun suck
@raven spade wdym?! Really?
solid gate
Arjun is one of the worst MBTS around Asia to the east
solid gate
Compared to past tanks yes otherwise for a tank that began development in the 70s-80s it’s really unimpressive
frank pine
Arjun mark III is pretty good
solid gate
That’s not even a thing?
solid gate
T-90s are decent outdated but still pose a threat
solar haven
idk i think they dont really need it
frank pine
k
pliant viper
India has outdated equipment
candid harbor
@frank pine T54/55 had atgm rounds lel
fluid sand
@frank pine T54/55 had atgm rounds lel
@candid harbor And also one of the Type 59's variants
candid harbor
Type 59 is just Chinese T54/54
back in older patches, Type 59 had stats of t54
but they quickly changed them
I would love to see, kpf pz 70 with atgms and its pneumatic suspension, tea bagging enemy corpses xD
fluid sand
lmao
I would love to see, kpf pz 70 with atgms and its pneumatic suspension, tea bagging enemy corpses xD
@candid harbor dont forget the 1500hp engine giving it the Bulldog's speed, as it nyooms around the map and rams poor light and mediums and some heavies and tds
candid harbor
Yea the crazy German engine
fluid sand
And its 20mm RH202 Autocannon, allowing it to melt most light tanks and some mediums, and probably heavy tanks and tank destroyers
candid harbor
we don't need someone to contest Annihilator, do we?
fluid sand
we need lol, not only anni, but smasher as well
candid harbor
xd
umbral geode
Please add M3 lee in shop
iron galleon
Arjun is one of the worst MBTS around Asia to the east
@solid gate no idts. It's one of the most powerful tanks in indian army i saw in news
T-90s are decent outdated but still pose a threat
@solid gate they are outdated but they have armor rebelling that of leopard 2 believe me or not
spark basin
why the hell are you comparing modern classified tanks to each other
iron galleon
WOT blitz need more missile shooters
@frank pine 😂 they are already removing one and you are talking about another🙄
India has outdated equipment
@pliant viper bruh🙄 old is gold, you don't know. Why is the ocean named as Indian Ocean? Since the land army of india is not as powerful as navy! Maybe equipment is outdated but our troops are not, and neither our navy! 😁😁
we don't need someone to contest Annihilator, do we?
@candid harbor imagine smasher with annihilator's cerberus gun😂
solid gate
For context the Arjun doesn’t even have proper protection against the ammorack lol
And a really bad round for modern standards
candid harbor
yea, it is trying to compete with post ww2 tanks and still failing
pliant viper
@frank pine 😂 they are already removing one and you are talking about another🙄
@pliant viper bruh🙄 old is gold, you don't know. Why is the ocean named as Indian Ocean? Since the land army of india is not as powerful as navy! Maybe equipment is outdated but our troops are not, and neither our navy! 😁😁
@iron galleon
Nobody said anything about Soldiers,,no doubt Indian soldiers have incredible courage
The conversation here is solely about tank and subsequent equipment
iron galleon
And a really bad round for modern standards
@solid gate btw which country do you live in?
@iron galleon
Nobody said anything about Soldiers,,no doubt Indian soldiers have incredible courage
The conversation here is solely about tank and subsequent equipment
@pliant viper oops i brought something else sorry. But i wanted to say that wg should add indian warships in world of warships (since this is general discussion and there is no discord server for WoWs, i decided to talk about that here😅 )
pliant viper
Np brother 😅
iron galleon
@pliant viper oops i brought something else sorry. But i wanted to say that wg should add indian warships in world of warships (since this is general discussion and there is no discord server for WoWs, i decided to talk about that here😅 )
@iron galleon oops i just checked this isnt general discussion sorry lol😂
steep stump
harsh jasper
Izzit final statistics
rigid thunder
it's still in testing so no
hollow moth
4 x 310 with 2.5 intraclip is much beyond what I expected
Hmmmm
I dunno, if it stills like it is, Bat Chat 25T won't become obsolete
The only thing here that actually annoys me is about the penetration, I don't think 242 is too much, maybe it could get even a bit better
But really, why 242? Why this specific number?
gaunt meadow
bruh tvp seems worse than batchat lmao
hollow moth
It doesn't seem a med supposed to do hulldown
We all expected too much from It, yeah, 4 x 310 on bat chat won't be necessary
fast compass
Looking at how much tvp sacrifices. I don't think i want a 4 shell batchat either
hollow moth
TVP sacrifices 28.78 seconds for 1240 damage, meanwhile Bat Chat just needs 19.53 (already using 2.8 secs intraclip) for 930 damage
I kinda think that the 3 seconds intraclip on bat chat weren't that bad when compared to TVP
wise moth
Bat Chat 4x350 gang
hollow moth
I don't think 4x350 will be fair for our new vehicle mate TVP
untold stirrup
I think after seeing this I think Bat Chat could just get an alpha buff to 350 and nothing else, then see how it does.
distant nymph
and reduce TVP clip reload
wise moth
TVP #.# ####-#### gang
past crane
BatChat 4x350, Tier IX 3x350, make both BatChats mediums, and rework the French LT's-gang, ig
wise moth
BC AP should be 4*310
hollow moth
I don't think 4x350 will be fair for our new vehicle mate TVP
.
TVP is sacrificing it's reload for a good and fast burst and it's DPM is literraly only 2 bursts
hollow notch
It's burst isn't that fast. Prog 65 is gonna still be the better clip med, and it has a reloader
hollow moth
Prog 65 might be a TVP killer
rose venture
Popular opinion? Make the Vickers meds and make TVPs light 👀
spark basin
they're gonna be the largest light if they became lights
rose venture
Fair
The Vickers has more armor than it tho, I decide whether it’s a light or med based on armor more 🤷♂️
azure carbon
I always thought meds were tanks that could heal other tanks
spark basin
the tvp is wider
hollow moth
Probably @rose venture
On the first times I thought it too lol @azure carbon
azure carbon
Imo medic tanks wouldn't be that broken if You actually Made them like a second kit of fixing, like maybe it can fix Yellow modules or such, not actually recovering You hp
spark basin
no. they deserve to stay in special gamemodes
azure carbon
Or maybe it could give You more armor for a few seconds to tank a hit
hollow moth
They already exist, mad games, burning games and uprising @azure carbon
rose venture
I have a hard time accepting the “reactive” armor already not sure I want healing
azure carbon
They already exist, mad games, burning games and uprising @azure carbon
@hollow moth oh really? Thats cool ig
rose venture
Speaking of wacky consumables when are they adding a view range one for lights, gotta get some windex in here for the viewports
azure carbon
What about a consumable that makes your tank armor go up by 5 in each Stat for 10 seconds? Is that broken?
spark basin
dont think so but HE rounds will definitely suffer
azure carbon
Oof
hollow notch
Ah yes, make the maus more broken ._.
spark basin
if armor consumables like that existed, i bet it will go straight to the superheavies
azure carbon
T28 super heavy
spark basin
been grinding the m103 and i have to say, its pretty good, with the dpm and pen
the turret armor though, its somewhat unreliable
earnest mantle
Remember when the 215b almost got a healing consumable?
spark basin
wait what
earnest mantle
When the 215b line got special consumables, wg was testing a welding kit that would allow like 10 percent of your hitpoints to come back. It was stupidly broken and smartly, wg didn't follow through it after all the backlash from the testers and contributers.
spark basin
this is the first time i've heard of this
azure carbon
If wg has testers why did they add the rockets in first place 💩
hollow notch
charioteer
spark basin
nah the emil 1 is worse
hollow notch
Only because the emil has armor that forgives the noobs
The raw firepower on the charioteer was a lot more broken
spark basin
how much dpm did it have before it got bonked hard?
hollow notch
4.2k
With 220 pen
spark basin
that the hesh round?
fast compass
Yes
spark basin
so it absolutely shredded pre health buff heavies and other tanks, thats a far cry from its current form now, sad
hollow notch
Light tank mobility, turret, 10° depression, HE proofing, and quite literally a tier 10 medium gun in tier 8.
spark basin
yup seems broke to me
earnest mantle
6.8 second reload for 440 alpha with tier 10 pen values
spark basin
is this the hardest nerf wg has ever done to a tank?
hollow notch
Yup, and it bro the tank down to a reasonable level of balance. Now it has been powercrept though
spark basin
powercrept by buffed health heavies
earnest mantle
It's still decent but nowhere where it was. I'd argue that while it probably got the biggest nerf, I think the prog nerf was harsher, because they made the prog from an above average med to a average to a below average med, while the more broken tank, the standard b, got a slap an the wrist.
They made the mobility and gun handling bad
hollow notch
The prog65 is quite solid
Autoreloaders are op
earnest mantle
But it only has the autoreloader and nothing else, they got rid of everything else that the tank had going for it
hollow notch
And that upper plate
The thing is all it needs to keep up with everything is just having the autoreloader. It sacrifices everything to gain a godly dpm storing mechanic
earnest mantle
Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, but I still cant get over how they barely touched the standard b and took the prog away from the top of the meta. With heavy buffs the prog got more or less powercrept
The standard b is still the best tier 9 med
hollow notch
Ngl, I consider the prog to be the 2nd best med
earnest mantle
Its certainly and unique tank and it comes down to personal preference. But for me even the 4202 feels more mobile
hollow notch
The 4202 has really good acceleration
earnest mantle
But it has bad top speed
hollow notch
But it travels at the top speed
earnest mantle
Prog only lurks around in the 40s and low 50s mostly, with not great acceleration. Whatever, I played games in it this morning, it's still great, but it's nowhere near where it was(4 progs per twister team)
limpid crag
Is there a good tier V tank against tier VI tanks? I am new and I have a Leopard but can't cause damage to them.
iron galleon
Is there a good tier V tank against tier VI tanks? I am new and I have a Leopard but can't cause damage to them.
@limpid crag you can always choose heavy tanks like kv1, churchill1 or mediums like t-34, m4 sherman or spike if u attended mad games event this year
spark basin
so how i do salvage my maus's winrate, its 46% atm
spark marsh
have anybody heard about the...SO-122? (a Sherman Tank with a T-34-85 engine and a 122mm gun made by Yugoslavia) https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar-yugolsavian-prototypes-so-122/
solar flame
Dang..there's just a sherman for just about anything huh
spark marsh
heck yeah bro
rigid condor
I mean it was a good tank. repaireble, flexible, cheap.
spark marsh
I mean it was a good tank. repaireble, flexible, cheap.
@rigid condor and highly adaptable it seens
solar flame
Well, ever heard of the Bergetiger?
spark marsh
no until now
solar flame
It was a tiger, that swapped its cannon out for a crane
rose venture
Do you need the Sheridan in your garage to get the collector version or just have researched and used it?
gentle wasp
you only need it researched
rose venture
Aye
spark basin
man the lower part of the maus' side armor being 80mm hurts
meager bear
Dang..there's just a sherman for just about anything huh
@solar flame don't forget the sherman with a 60mm (super sherman)
solar flame
...why
low rampart
@spark basin Don't criticize the refrigerator tanks or people will eat you alive.
spark basin
cant criticize facts
low rampart
The worst aspect of slow armored tanks is they are situational, if the circumstances require you to move across the map, behind cover, or through flanks, forget you're just a spectator now. More mobile heavies get to decide the outcome by adapting to every situation.
solar flame
Let me guess theres even a sherman with a 200mm
iron galleon
man the lower part of the maus' side armor being 80mm hurts
@spark basin why do they make such weak armor there huh? Does they mean bad intentions😬
Why can't they make good armor all around, even at the back and top? (Talking abt real life)
spark basin
weight and cost
iron galleon
Pls give tips for lowe🙏
Why the hell cost matters here huh?
solar flame
Sidescrape with lowe and wiggle, your lower plate is..well..special ill leave it at that
hollow moth
@iron galleon Löwe is a simple heavy with trustworthy precision, good penetration and DPM for a heavy
Try to hide the frontal hull upper plate because it's as strong as Tiger 2 (may works against AP, but a good APCR will probably penetration), also the Lower plate is even weaker (some tier 7 cannons may penetrate it without problems)
The sides aren't that hard tho then sidescrape against heavy or TD cannons may won't work @iron galleon
final night
I think Wargaming should change Kpfz-70 status from Tier 9 to 10. Because it was designed to replace Leopard 1
iron galleon
@iron galleon Löwe is a simple heavy with trustworthy precision, good penetration and DPM for a heavy
Try to hide the frontal hull upper plate because it's as strong as Tiger 2 (may works against AP, but a good APCR will probably penetration), also the Lower plate is even weaker (some tier 7 cannons may penetrate it without problems)
The sides aren't that hard tho then sidescrape against heavy or TD cannons may won't work @iron galleon
@hollow moth whoa! Thank you very much for help🙏
Sidescrape with lowe and wiggle, your lower plate is..well..special ill leave it at that
@solar flame and you too! 🙏🙏🙏
hollow moth
A useful tip is: always try hulldown when possible, it's the best strategy for Löwe since it's turret is incredible and the mantlet is almost impenetrable
solid gate
@final night they were designed around the same time
final night
Well, Leopard 1 already exist. But its firepower & armor won't protect them from Soviet's brand new T62. So, they designed Kpfz-70 to try to overpowered it. Which means, Kpfz-70 should been better (including its tier status). Thought it failed @solid gate
solid gate
Kpz -70 was not designed to defeat t62 as leopard 1 was already more than capable of defeating T62 before T62 could get in range Kpz-70 was meant to respond to the T-64 threat
iron galleon
A useful tip is: always try hulldown when possible, it's the best strategy for Löwe since it's turret is incredible and the mantlet is almost impenetrable
@hollow moth oh, okay. Thanks for your help 🙏
final night
But still, it needs to be removed from its tier 9 status
hollow moth
Bruh it can't deal correctly even with tier 9 tanks, imagine always being against 10 as you want
solid gate
I fully support the kpz being removed and reworked entirely for tier 10 as much as people say kpz 70 is it’s just a really pathetic and painful tank to actually use in battle
solar flame
The way i see it, "hey its a tier 9 that costs less than the majority of tier 8 premiums, why not"
hollow moth
@solar flame you know that there's tier X tanks that cost less than a tier 6, right?
2019 auction, Fury for 30k gold
solar flame
They also sold the chi nu kai one time for $100
sacred dune
Why does tiger 2 have 260 mm on lower plate
I guess because a lot of players are wehraboos (play only german tanks) and still after 25000 battles in german tanks have 45% wr
azure carbon
@limpid crag you can always choose heavy tanks like kv1, churchill1 or mediums like t-34, m4 sherman or spike if u attended mad games event this year
@iron galleon T1 heavy
iron galleon
@iron galleon T1 heavy
@azure carbon sorry forgot😂
solid gate
For a while tiger 2 was really bad and generally an avoided tank to play at tier 8 it received a buff to the front of the hull making it highly resistant to most of the tier although gold still defeats it with no problem
azure carbon
T1 heavy is mostly the meta of the heavy tanks, More chance to bounce than KV-1 , higher speed than churchill and KV-1, and not aiming at the fact of lower reload speed and decent damage, the only thing is the side plates, but out of that you're good, most of my tier 5 wins are from the T1 heavy, and i like that tank
sacred dune
If tiger 2 can get 260 mm on both plates and 250 on turret front then at least give 250 pen to t32 gold?
azure carbon
but i cant stand when i see someone REVEAL their side as a T1 heavy, thats like exposing fire to a opened wound in your arm
pastel drum
@azure carbon and I can't stand people like you criticizing new players, learning how to play. Just shut up
solid gate
grabs popcorn
static harness
does the same as he ^
azure carbon
@azure carbon and I can't stand people like you criticizing new players, learning how to play. Just shut up
@pastel drum what?, when i did even say that?, i just said people online i didnt say him, you looking for beef where there is not lol?
pastel drum
but i cant stand when i see someone REVEAL their side as a T1 heavy, thats like exposing fire to a opened wound in your arm
@azure carbon ah yes... I wonder when you said that.... like 2 minutes ago. You basically hate new players in tier 5 learning how to play the game
solid gate
wait hold on, so criticizing your teammates when they play badly is accepted, but criticizing enemies when they make a bad play is hating on them? that doesnt seem logical
azure carbon
i was criticizing enemies and teammates, because both did so
solid gate
i would hate it if our top tier T1 Heavy was an idiot and drove out sideways and died, because thats the most influential tank at tier 5 that just threw his life away
theres no reason i cant be angry that an enemy t1 heavy would do the same, even though i would be happy
fathom schooner
pastel drum
its literally tier 5... you meet inexperienced players in that tier like 95% of the time. And what, you gonna be mad at them for learning to play the game correctly?
fathom schooner
So why Pantoufleee gets strike from Wargaming but not droodles he also leaks in Files
solid gate
Being angry is a HUMAN emotion that you cant control. If you don't like something that affects you, you get angry at it. What really matters is whether you ACT on that anger, such as sending them insults in chat or calling them a noob. @pastel drum
static harness
solid gate
You're telling me you wont get angry if you see a top tier T1 Heavy on your team drive out sideways and die? Yeah right. I would be angry too, and theres NOTHING wrong with that. You are in the wrong when you act on that and start insulting them.
azure carbon
I didnt send them insults on chat, i just....watched. and i actually told them "Hey you should start using the front of your tank ,because that part has armor" and the guy told me" Oh thank you!" and he started playing better
pastel drum
now that is a statement I agree with. However, I still do not think people should be angry at people with like sub 1K or even sub 500 battles. Lets say you are playing a new game and know a thing or two but are still learning. Do you feel like people should be mad at you for not knowing the nitty gritty things?
solid gate
^^^ That is the correct and respectful decision to make. If @azure carbon hard started calling them a noob idiot, that would put him in the wrong. He didn't. He got angry, but he didn't act on that anger. He did nothing wrong.
@pastel drum YES people should be frustrated. If you see someone on your team throw their life away, you would get angry. It's just how it works. What matters is whether or not you try to bring them up to your level or push them down farther. An example would be messaging them after battle and offering them tips, instead of calling them slurs in chat.
azure carbon
now that is a statement I agree with. However, I still do not think people should be angry at people with like sub 1K or even sub 500 battles. Lets say you are playing a new game and know a thing or two but are still learning. Do you feel like people should be mad at you for not knowing the nitty gritty things?
@pastel drum bro, i have only 400 battles and i pretty much know about a few things, but i dont call myself a master, i just share what ik with everyone
solid gate
Frustration is natural when something happens that you dont like and it affects you. You cannot control that. What you CAN control is whether or not you act on that in a positive or negative way. If people were angry at me because I did something stupid, and told me after and offered me help, I would suck it up, recognize that I messed up, and take the advice. It all boils down to being a decent human being.
pastel drum
Bruh, Ok. From that statement i think you need some anger management classes. getting angry over a new player who does not know how to drive in a video game seems quite ridiculous.
@azure carbon some people learn faster than others. Some never learn.
solid gate
@pastel drum your logic is flawed. You're arguing that you shouldn't feel angry at all when you see someone do something that could cost your team the game, which is nonsense, considering anger is an uncontrollable human emotion that we all experience.
That first initial thought "oh my god that was so stupid" doesn't affect anyone. They don't know you thought that, and if you don't be an arse in chat, they never will. By helping them and offering advice, you are making the situation positive. You will experience anger and frustration and negative emotions whether you like it or not, and denying that is pointless. What matters is how you act on it in a way that affects other people.
pastel drum
I agree that anger and frustration are uncontrollable, however that does not prevent you from trying to suppress them. The fact that you are angry does not mean you have to express that emotion. Sure you can be annoyed, but you can most definitely push through it. Since he is angry/annoyed over quite a dumb reason (a bad player in a videogame), there is literally no reason he should not be able to suppress that emotion
jovial yew
^ this was a nice discussion on tanks
red sonnet
Why is the arl 44 such a famous-oh lemme not interrupt
solid gate
My point is this. It goes something like this:
- Someone on your team makes a bad play.
- You get angry at them because it could cost the game.
- You have to choose whether or not you want to help them or push them down.
- You choose to be a decent person and offer them advice, and recognize that everyone learns differently.
That is what you should do. Your idea is to skip step 2 entirely, which is completely unrealistic. You're saying he shouldn't be angry at ALL. And he did suppress that emotion and control it. He did not lash out at them in chat, and instead offered them advice and they started playing better.
jovial yew
i just go back to garage if ik it's a loss, you can be mad but why not try to help them
solid gate
Did he feel angry? Yes. Did he control that and make the situation better? YES he DID. THAT is how controlling emotions works. Controlling emotions does not mean never feeling them in the first place.
pastel drum
Lmaooo. Sorry but I have to make the comment. Once you get angry at someone, 95% of the time you will start raging at the player not trying to help them.
hollow moth
^
hollow notch
Just call them nub and leave.
pastel drum
- Someone on your team makes a bad play.
- You get angry at them because it could cost the game.
- You choose to cuss and blame them for losing.
- You lose and go into his dms after battle blaming him for being a bad player.
There, corrected for you
solid gate
I don't understand what that means above. You initially said that @azure carbon was completely in the wrong for feeling a basic human emotion, judging by the fact you said "i hate it when people like you criticize players learning how to play, just shut up" even though he never acted on it in a negative way. You then backtracked and affirmed my point and the fact that @azure carbon never did anything wrong here:
I agree that anger and frustration are uncontrollable, however that does not prevent you from trying to suppress them. The fact that you are angry does not mean you have to express that emotion. Sure you can be annoyed, but you can most definitely push through it. Since he is angry/annoyed over quite a dumb reason (a bad player in a videogame), there is literally no reason he should not be able to suppress that emotion
Here, you affirm my argument of the initial feeling of emotions being uncontrollable. You also affirmed my point that you should still be able to control them. You said that "the fact you are angry does not mean you have to express that emotion" and @azure carbon never did that. He was angry, but did not express that emotion to the person he was angry at. You are literally contradicting yourself here; your logic doesn't fit.
It sounds like YOU'RE the one who needs anger management lessons, considering the first thing you do when someone has a different opinion is to tell them to be quiet.
pastel drum
"I agree that anger and frustration are uncontrollable" - I meant that you can not control when you get angry or annoyed. The situations that make you angry are mostly out of your control. however, literally in the same sentence I mention that you can suppress your anger and not make it so apparent, or even managing it to hide it from everyone.
"was completely in the wrong for feeling a basic human emotion". I did not blame him for expressing his emotions. All I tried to say was that I do not like when people criticize people who may be trying their very best but still do not know enough to show it. Also the guy clearly expressed his emotions especially with the word capitalization
We can jump in a vc if you want to sort things out
hollow notch
Turn off the chat. You cannot get annoyed by what others say, and it prevents you from taking your own rage out in the chat.
It helped save me my sanity when I spammed in ratings battles.
hollow moth
I don't play play ratings for a reason
Communication is highly necessary, but if you turn chat on, then you see a lot of tryhards crying
If you turn chat off, then you'll have a lack of communication with your team
pastel drum
Don't bother with communication in ratings. Play a tank in which you can manage to get an ok performance when carried and being able to carry when you need to, depending on your skill level
hollow moth
Oh, well
hollow notch
Those edits ._.
pastel drum
I accidentally sent the message before it was finished. Don't judge me
solid gate
So, you don't like it when people point out that you're doing something wrong and offer you advice on how to fix it? Not a good mindset to have. What I'm getting is that you don't like it when people say you're wrong in a nice way. Also, he never criticized anyone. He criticized their actions and the play they made.
but i cant stand when i see someone REVEAL their side as a T1 heavy, thats like exposing fire to a opened wound in your arm
He never called them any names, and he even said that he offered the T1 advice in the game and the T1 took it like a decent person. What you're arguing is that you should never criticize something someone does because it's inherently rude, even if what they do is not smart, which is complete nonsense. If you never point out to someone that they're doing something wrong, all it does is create snowflakes who don't like other opinions, on top of the fact they continue doing whatever they were doing wrong, which creates more problems. @azure carbon saw that the T1 Heavy made a misplay, he gave the T1 Heavy advice, and the T1 took the advice like a decent and humble person and applied it. There was no negativity in that interaction, contrary to what you said. The only wrong thing was you instantly telling him to shut up. @pastel drum
which light tank line is recommended atm? like the best performing one, i dont wanna waste time like i did with patton line sadly
hollow notch
@solid gate sheridan or Vickers still
solid gate
which one would you prefer personally? and why?
@solid gate I would recommend the Vickers Light 105 or the Batchat 25t. The Vickers plays more up front, and the Batchat is more of an active/passive scout as well as a flanker and an assassin.
karmic nymph
When I was a newer player, it took me about 2k battles till I had a clue of what to rally do. I actually recommend new player just try whatever they want to explore the maps and see if it works so they can reflect on that and learn. If they are afraid of messing up then they will never learn. What I do get mad tho is the bots that won’t listen to basic calls at higher tiers and can’t do anything right
solid gate
active passive is an oxymoron
hollow notch
Sheridan for me because of the alpha and gun depression. Hit and run tactics are how I like to play, and the sherry does that perfectly
solid gate
@solid gate because the Batchat can do both. The Vickers is more of a passive scout on the frontlines, rather than a run around the battlefield and scout type of tank.
karmic nymph
Vickers all the way. It’s go just enough armor, a great gun, and great mobility
solid gate
vickers line mid-way tanks seem great fun too, crusader, cromwell, comet
hollow notch
The bat is usable because of its mobility, but it isn't great.
solid gate
though vickers IS getting a sizeable nerf next patch so i am not sure
karmic nymph
Idk about the mid way lines, they aren’t bad but not spectacular either. The nerf won’t kill it and the cr will still be op
azure carbon
@solid gate tx for carrying the convo, i was doin homework
hollow notch
The Vickers is a lot more like a generic tier 10 medium. I guess I would prefer the sherry because it is unique
solid gate
the only advantage of running for sheridan would be the fact that i wont have to start from tier 1 lol
vickers, batchat, british and french, i have never played with, ever
@azure carbon np
hollow notch
The french lights have really low xp costs compared to everything and would be the fastest grind, and none of the line are flat out terrible.
The comet is gonna be hell though, only thing it has is gun depression.
solid gate
i also considered trying out the vk72.01k line, though i dont know if i should
hollow notch
@solid gate vk72 is a solid no
solid gate
since it does seem like a worse e100 lol
hollow notch
The vk itself is fine. Getting to it is not fine.
solid gate
what about e50m? is it better than leopard 1?
hollow notch
@solid gate how experienced do you consider yourself to be?
solid gate
not at all to a bit, from my own point of view, i have around 3k battles with 59% wr
i find myself rather the mediocre bit of the bunch
@solid gate Way better in terms of armor protection. The Leopard still has the best DPM and one of the best guns at tier 10 out of all medium tanks, but the E50M does excel in ramming potential and armor protection. I have the E50M and the Leopard PTA currently, and my verdict is that the E50M is better, although other people may think differently.
i mainly want a light tank to grind skills btw, not that i main lights
but it still needs to be a good tank nonetheless since a grind is a grind :)
hollow notch
Hmmm
The leopard 1 has a broken gun, but is very hard to play. It leaves 0 room for error, but when played well it will be one of the best.
The gun of the e50m is rather lacking. It's more of a medium and tier 9 bully. It's also a bit slow. The armor is quite good, but it pays for the armor. This does not mean that the e50m is bad, just I personally dislike the e50m
lyric copper
opinion: the Leopard 1 is overshadowed by the T-62A, VL and STB
hollow notch
Leo 1 has a very different role than those 3, and a bit more situational. Leo 1 is a dedicated flank sniper, and has a side bonus of being able to dpm isolated targets to death. The others have a bit of armor to brawl with.
I love my leopard 1 and hate the t62a, so take that into account.
hollow moth
E50 isn't bad, stock E50 is
hollow notch
Imma go add all the "m"s for clarity
But yea, completely agree with that statement
azure carbon
whats the worst tank with all the tiers ?. like out of all tiers which one is the worse tank
karmic nymph
Vk30.02d
viral falcon
Depends on one's taste. For me, the Amx AC 48 was my worst experience of playing a tank. I don't know if it was just for me, but the gun kept trollishly missing, shooting the edge of the circle, etc. And despite having tons of penetration, it managed to bounce from the weirdest places every time.
I raged out many times using and shooting with the Ac 48.
pliant viper
I keep getting destroyed by 183 in my t92,they literally take off 1200 hp,what's the point of fighting after a shot like that
whats the worst tank with all the tiers ?. like out of all tiers which one is the worse tank
@azure carbon
M4 sherman for sure
viral falcon
First of all. You shouldn't even get shot by them. Map awareness.@pliant viper
pliant viper
Ye I guess so
solid gate
For training crew skills, is it better to focus on maxing out one skill or train multiple?
trim nimbus
Hello guys is tiger ii a good tier 8?
viral falcon
Train the important ones simultaneously. And i'd especially focus on the light tank one, which gives you a chance to max roll on the third succesive shot.
azure carbon
my worst experience playing a tank was the SU-85 out of Tier 5 , tbh
hollow moth
My worst experience is on T-150 back when I had less than 500 battles, bad old times of 40%er
azure carbon
i think im a 20% er but i play for fun so eh
hollow moth
Wait, what? How can you lose 4/5 of your battles? It's barely impossible
azure carbon
wait you mean % of wins? , then its 53%, and i have around 400 battles
rancid yarrow
Who claims that it will give us too weak tank for Christmas, for this year, give your reactions (if you do not know what tank is already: 3Tier T15)
hollow moth
Better a weak tank for absolutely free than a P2W event for a tank that isn't even so good
azure carbon
i honestly bought a few premiums and i regret doing so lol
i mean they're not bad but they arent my playstyle, thats it
rancid yarrow
Well, maybe this T15 is good in itself, but it is weak
azure carbon
they got the T23 no mad to 5000 gold holy
hollow moth
Bruh, you got T23E3 and you have around 500 battles, right?
azure carbon
no i dont have it
hollow moth
they got the T23 no mad to 5000 gold holy
no i dont have it
?
Ah nevermind, I just misunderstood
hollow moth
Yeah, I'd say absolutely @azure carbon
The main problem is the ammo rack
azure carbon
frontal ammo rack
mmm yes
ngl i want to get the KV-3
the last thing you see before you die
hollow moth
What mostly hurts me is the 20 secs reload
azure carbon
i just had my best match with the T-34, im in love with it
solid gate
you cant go wrong with russian tanks it seems like
red sonnet
The kv-1s screams Stalinium with it's 122mm that wants to be a howitzer but isn't. The 25s reload is what kills me though
Then we have le Arl 44 which has a bird house for a stock turret
solid gate
finally I finished grinding my horrible tank and got to the next tank...
never grind the Challenger, that's my advice
lyric copper
GL with the Charrioteer
solid gate
bruh
upper jolt
I dont understand how people can enjoy t-34-2 it feels so shit compared to the previous tank
hollow moth
Are you playing it stock?
upper jolt
122 doesnt feel good at all
azure carbon
havent tried the upgrade version of the T-34 but i love the T-34 rn, i think the name was T-34-85, correct me if wrong
for some reason i play the T-34 like a heavy, and i actually bounce stuff, wtf
hollow moth
for some reason i play the T-34 like a heavy, and i actually bounce stuff, wtf
?
upper jolt
T-34-2 isnt really anything like the Soviet mediums
next solstice
T-34-2 is a very good tank tho.
scarlet echo
A few seasons ago I was one lvl away till lvl 70
next solstice
never liked the BP avatars tbh
scarlet echo
Oof
azure carbon
the emoji avatars gotta be the most cursed thing
scarlet echo
Pretty much yea
elfin marten
2 big questions for WG: where is the object 907 that was planned to release last year, and where is the new British heavy tech tree that was planned for this year?
gentle wasp
where did you hear about either of those?
meager bear
where did you hear about either of those?
@gentle wasp i never hear of those tanks :/
@gentle wasp there is actually some files called object_907 in the game archives
solid gate
Obj. 907? That expensive tier X MT from normal WoT? Uh oh
gentle wasp
@meager bear being in the game files isn't usually an indication that it would be added. most of the tanks from PC are just ported over to blitz and never actually used. just curious where @elfin marten heard this, because this is news to me.
meager bear
@meager bear being in the game files isn't usually an indication that it would be added. most of the tanks from PC are just ported over to blitz and never actually used. just curious where @elfin marten heard this, because this is news to me.
@gentle wasp no no am actually saying in the blitz game files (just search obj 907 wotb)
gentle wasp
I know. there are tons of tanks from PC that are in the Blitz game files, mainly arty, but that doesn't mean they will ever be used in blitz.
solid gate
@gentle wasp the 907 apparently there was a rumor some months ago here of it being teased but it’s highly superstitious as for the Brit heavies that’s the first time I’ve heard it entirely out of nowhere
Imagine arty in blitz lmao
tulip sail
Or that they will be used in the same way as in pc if they see the light of day
gentle wasp
@solid gate according to concep (back in 2018) he said that it has been in game files "for a LONG time". I saw Pantoufleee posted about it 9 months ago so that is the likely birthplace of this rumor. shocker.
past crane
What is the basis for the rumored Vickers Mk. 3/Mk. 7 tech tree line that popped up a while ago.
solid gate
That is where the rumors began along with the “new soviet tech tree” rumors which I’m not surprised died out
past crane
Well, WG confirmed it a while ago but we have not heard anything since...probably was hard to balance and was pushed back or postponed
gentle wasp
yea the Soviet one was actually somewhat factual
meager bear
i think the soviets needs a armourless TD line
past crane
My best guess is it might get released in the Spring of 2021, maybe WG decided to switch around the Czech tanks for earlier. As for the line, my guess (based on the STG) is the rear-turreted medium tanks.
gentle wasp
STG is going to be a premium tho
past crane
I know, but it has a similar playstyle and I believe was released about the same time or close to the line of rear-turreted meds in PC. My guess is that it's a test bed, based on how it performs in Blitz WG can adjust parameters and work on releasing the next Soviet line
Also @gentle wasp what is the point of having vehicles such as artillery or tanks that never will come into Blitz in the game files, are they being kept there for possible release in many years, or maybe for testing how they would work in Blitz. If they are in the files does that mean they are full fledged vehicles that have the ability to be played or used, or is it just the raw stats. I'm curious
solid gate
Pc has had the chieftain mark 6 for years in the game files and never got it
glass relic
Yet Blitz has it.
gentle wasp
@past crane because they are lazy and just copy-pasted everything into blitz. it's easier than picking and choosing which tanks they wanted I suppose.
tulip sail
We have several tanks that are in pc as arty but are put as tds in blitz
gentle wasp
enlighten me sensei
past crane
@gentle wasp But isn't blitz a completely different game with different rules and code? Are they in with PC stats as leftovers, or adjusted for Blitz parameters and then not touched again?
solid gate
Blitz is a testing ground pc different but still come from the same origin pc stats are now way different than blitz
azure carbon
arty on Wot Blitz, all tanks get 1 shooted
tulip sail
@gentle wasp t-18 t-82 for example
lyric oriole
Those used to be TDs
They were adjusted to not let people sealclub
iirc WoT Console did that first actually
azure carbon
is WoT free on xbox?, i must know
lyric oriole
Yes
azure carbon
xbox 360?, because if so im going to play rn
tulip sail
Yes
lyric oriole
Yeah 360 is still supported
azure carbon
do i have to buy xbox live to play online or no?
tulip sail
Yes thats with all online
azure carbon
F
fluid sand
Somewhat more armor than IS or whatever but is less mobile, but its predecessors have great armor like the KV-4 and ST-1
azure carbon
just spam frontal armor
sacred phoenix
Kv3 very good
azure carbon
just need to get 60k Exp, lol
balmy wagon
Upgrade that engine, god.....
fluid sand
Your tank is as slow as my ability to pass my assignments in online class
untold stirrup
😂
hollow moth
T-150 was better than those new gen tier 6, big boomer time
sacred phoenix
Yea it was
low rampart
Kv-3's armor can be good, the tank is slow, I would say the IS is a better tank overall.
azure carbon
grinding exp with the T-34 is so easy, no matter if i lose or win i get at least 1000 EXP
elfin marten
Stg in mad games gonna be op... rammer and high octane fuel? Another t34-3...
quartz belfry
IS compared to kv3 is almost better in every way, gun is the same, IS is far more maneuverable and agile, the only thing the kv 3 has is a better turret which the IS already has a workable one, but imo the IS is superior as its hull is better
winter mauve
Kv-3's armor can be good, the tank is slow, I would say the IS is a better tank ...
but if you go with is you do know that the tier 10 is 7 is worse than is 4 right?
low rampart
but if you go with is you do know that the tier 10 is 7 is worse than is 4 right...
I'm not aware, I don't have any tier 10s yet so I wouldn't know which one is better, but I've heard people praise the IS-4.
pulsar cloak
So should i go for the Matilda or the su-65b?
low rampart
So should i go for the Matilda or the su-65b?
I think you meant SU-85B? That's a tank destroyer while the Matilda is a heavy tank, they have different gameplays altogether. Do you prefer to move slowly with good armor or snipe tanks with no armor?
pulsar cloak
I am helping other farm
azure carbon
idk wdym but i played with matilda and if you just use most of your front hull down you can actually tank most shots, since matilda is the best tier 4 heavy (and i think the only one)
pulsar cloak
Helping another clanmate grind up and just looking for a fun tank to help them with
low rampart
@pulsar cloak Fun/good tier 4s include Matilda, M7, Hetzer. You can win a decent amount of matches with those.
azure carbon
hetzer is decent if you know how to use it, M7 ,ehh.. didnt really have a fun exp with it
pulsar cloak
So the su's are not that great. . .
azure carbon
the su's are the best tank destroyers , all the line , s h u t
tepid geyser
They're good tanks and that whole line is good, but the tier 4 and 5 on the line are simply just tanks to grind through and the same thing can be said for the tier 6 (debateably)@pulsar cloak
low rampart
So the su's are not that great. . .
It has a little bit more pen than Hetzer, but you can't compare them, the Hetzer has a sloped armor making it capable of advancing when needed. You can't do that with the SU-85B.
azure carbon
most tank destroyers are supossed to hide and not get hit
gentle wasp
check pinned in #general-blitz-discussion
lavish epoch
This thing go well with mt & lt. But I get flamed by other hts in my team lol I got no choice but i think it's the best for this tank with tumor that big.
tulip sail
Its also very good as a second line tank and can abuse smaller hills
next solstice
i assume that the playstyle is similar to the Carnaevon
tulip sail
Not really since the t95 is actually really good
next solstice
whats the difference in playstyle then
gentle wasp
You have a good turret and a useful gun
Also I believe the mobility is better
fluid sand
idk wdym but i played with matilda and if you just use most of your front hull d...
Lmao youre forgetting both B1's, the original and the captured one used bu the germans
tulip sail
The cavernon is limited by worse stats and cant go med side due to it lacking mobility
fluid sand
How to Chieftain Mk. 6?
candid burrow
Can we just appreciate how the top Tier X Tank Destroyer class German tank is just an AA gun strapped to a pair of traks
tulip sail
The pak L/63 isn't an AA gun though
candid burrow
I can't remember the name of it. I just know the name starts with a G and it's a German Tank Destroyer Class Tier X
It's on the top of the tree
tulip sail
The grille uses a Pak L/63 which is an anti-tank gun
neat nimbus
What I should buy
solid gate
E5 steam rolls all of them
tulip sail
Depends on your playstyle all 4 are good tanks
gentle wasp
E5 is the best by far
next solstice
Yes and no. The armor is fantastic but the gun handling is atrocious
neat nimbus
And Lorraine
next solstice
Lorraine has deadly damage potential and has solid mobility. But it's also huge and doesn't have any armor. Glass cannon that suffers from a lack of flexbility
neat nimbus
I want a good tank can have good win rate or decent
next solstice
Then focuse on your playstyle before focusing on the tank
neat nimbus
Normally when playing heavies German ones I tend wiggle my armor
tulip sail
There good tanks but I wouldn't say they are newbie friendly the e5 and 252 would probably be the closest to that
neat nimbus
Always show front as possible or charge on lone enemy
Well I guess I won't find a tank fits my style
pulsar cloak
What is the credit return on the su-100?
candid burrow
The grille uses a Pak L/63 which is an anti-tank gun
@tulip sail Oh, that's the name of the turret. My bad, it looks like a 105mm Howitzer to me.
neat nimbus
i dont know in what to spend my gold
fluid sand
> The grille uses a Pak L/63 which is an anti-tank gun
<@253628697657999362> Oh,...
Howitzers have short barrels, keep that in mind
neat nimbus
so may i buy the 252u and type 64
tulip sail
@candid burrow in german service any gun labeled as pak is a n antitank gun kwk is a tank gun and flak is an AA gun while a howitzer is sfh
Also generally speaking howitzers have shorter barrels
red sonnet
No wonder why the accuracy is literally negligible
neat nimbus
so is a worth 252u
i think in definitibe i go for the russian heavy the t26e5 seems like a t32
gentle wasp
E5 is incredible. Don’t buy the Type 64
neat nimbus
i dont know i never played the t32
fast compass
Just get the hellcat instead of type 64.
Also #GiveHellcatACamo
solid gate
T26E5 outclasses action X in almost most of its traits then why would you say it plays like a t32
neat nimbus
weak hull strong turret
solid gate
The hulls better than the action Xs
gentle wasp
Same with the turret and the gun and the mobility lol
neat nimbus
should i spend on camo?
solid gate
No? Wait if you mean legendary
Should I buy that Obj. 252u or save golds for better offer (K-91... etc.)??
neat nimbus
No? Wait if you mean legendary
yes i do
pallid turret
I already got Action x and 252.. etc but I wanna buy t26E5
Is it worth
gentle wasp
Yes E5 > AX
plucky summit
Action X has a BP situation, it has to retain a line of fire on the enemy to sustain the use of its DPM, it can be out-traded by nearly all on tier 8s+
neat nimbus
but does the e5 looks with other camos?
tulip sail
Personally I like the e5's looks
gentle wasp
Regular e5 is nice. Camo may be a bit divisive
neat nimbus
like doesnt look too dusty or older just like brand new (ex. m4/fl10 effect where any camo looks good)
prime lion
Object 252u or IS6 ?
neat nimbus
i dont want buy a tank doesnt look good with any camoulfages
tulip sail
Is-6
neat nimbus
may i end up buying the is 6
tulip sail
What camo are you curious about for the e5? And I love the is-6 with the dpm gun its just so satisfying to bully meds and non heavys
gentle wasp
It takes a lot more skill however, the 252u is a much better option for the majority of heavy drivers
prime lion
The reload time takes about the whole game lol
neat nimbus
desert wind and real fighter (we need make WG make obtainable in a way on realistic battles)
tulip sail
Oh definitely but I'd rather play the IS-6 any day
neat nimbus
so does e5 looks good with other camouflages?
prime lion
Am just thinking of the 30days premium as well with is6 deal
neat nimbus
or i wait until the jagtiger offer came sometime?
tulip sail
Sorry I dont have those camos on it
frank pine
Idfk
neat nimbus
well there goes my hopes
strange thicket
which is more fun the the lorraine or the e5 and which one is worth getting
i am really hesitant about purchasing either
gentle wasp
E5 is a better tank by far but the Lorraine is very fun
neat nimbus
i still not conviced of buying it
tulip sail
The Loraine also takes a lot more skill to play
warm lily
tulip sail
Nice
warm lily
Mystery crates
neat nimbus
yeah not buying those
strange thicket
The Loraine also takes a lot more skill to play
i am very familiar with the BC line
it is one of my fav
so i think i am pretty used to clippers
but i purchased the E5
hope i don't regret this
neat nimbus
i gonna regret if i buy e5 and im not good
warm lily
I like the fv it's like a rapid Fire tank I got a hate full message saying I was hacking and the wz I was told to sell cause I suck at it but I'm not going listen to that
strange thicket
never sell that 112-2
it feels like a middle ground between obj 252u and is3 with that turret and hull
warm lily
I don't own those tanks lol so it's gonna be a while before I touch it again. I just don't know if I'm ready for it or if I should just get the obj 252 but I'll give it a chance
pliant viper
I have 17.5k gold,what to do
What all to buy in the black fridat sales
pliant viper
Object 252u for sure
pliant viper
i dont feel comfy about the e5 i still doubting
Same bro
gentle wasp
Take some time and do your own research. Check out the stats and armor profile, you don’t just have to blindly follow what people tell you.
pliant viper
I'm gonna go see droodles reviews on YouTube as well
gentle wasp
Oh god
neat nimbus
oh well
gentle wasp
I tried
warm lily
Lol
gentle wasp
I wouldn’t watch YouTube, it’s just another persons opinion backed by cherry picked games. Not really helpful unless you’re looking for a specific trait of a tank.
pliant viper
Ok bro thanks
gentle wasp
The only time I watch YouTube when deciding to buy something is if I want to see something specific as I mentioned. Only things I can think of right now would be mobility, gun depression, and gun handling, because those are characteristics that are difficult to visualize for me. Other than that, blitz hangar and blitzstars provides everything I need
neat nimbus
i care about pen cuz if i get a tank wont fit my style and struggle on pen
pliant viper
Imma go buy the obj 252u now
Are there going to be other phases of sale as well?
neat nimbus
if i cant pen on a unkown tank where im not used wont help me
i check the pen if the t26e5 has less im not going for it but if has well may but no conviced at 100%
pliant viper
I mean the t26e5 hull Armor is shit
gentle wasp
It’s meant to be hulldown
pliant viper
We get the m4 rev after type 62 right?
I guess we can't choose
neat nimbus
so the 252u has more pen lets say it surpass the t26e5 for 4 milimeters more
which convice me less on buying the e5
gentle wasp
E5 also aims nearly twice as fast and has much less dispersion, letting it hit weak spots better. And with CS, it has much better prammo pen.
neat nimbus
it plays like the action x or what similar style of game has
gentle wasp
Action X but better
neat nimbus
the camos looks good or nah
gentle wasp
No idea sorry
neat nimbus
then it only reduce the chances of me going for it
gentle wasp
¯_(ツ)_/¯
pliant viper
I bought 252u,im conflicted between the e5,l40t and t34-3
What would you guys suggest
gentle wasp
In that order best to worst
solid gate
@neat nimbus dont buy a tank based off how it looks with a camo
neat nimbus
I don't know I feel I will regret if I buy the T26e5
pliant viper
In that order best to worst
E5>l40t>t34?
gentle wasp
Yes
neat nimbus
Is just I don't feel comfortable buying it
pliant viper
Then don't,I guess comfort with a tank is also a influence
The more comfortable you are, the better you are motivated to perform well with it
neat nimbus
I was planning buy the other way
Cuz I feel may I do well as it has side scrapping potential
solid gate
Side scraping isn’t everything especially in this meta it’s an important tactic but one quickly falling out of emergency
gentle wasp
It’s way too defensive and not useful in most scenarios
karmic nymph
Many people just do it with buildings, you can do it with rocks, and hull down is generally more common. I don’t see myself setting up in a sidescraping position as a must. just go with the flow and use the terrain and what your tank can do.
pliant viper
I'm thinking I'll do this
Buy the e5,buy both t7 tanks
Buy the pz4 s
neat nimbus
I played the German line and I feel well cuz their armor is good
dusk hamlet
Hi.
Is it worth for me to buy 252u when I already have WZ112-2?
Is it worth for me to buy T26E5 when I already have T34?
Is Lorraine 40 t similar to AMX 50 100?
Is PZ IV S good?
If you want to answer pls ping me. I'm not asking 40 wr noobs who are in love with 252u, I'm asking real players.
something important, I'm player with 3000+ WN8.
fast compass
Sidescraping is like the last ditch effort to avoid damage. You have to expose your sides before shooting. We don't have to reload the whole gun to load HE. Sidescraping works don't get me wrong. But you are better off hulldown in most tanks
neat nimbus
If 252u has good armor then I go for it
But is something on the 252u makes me think I'll do just fine
pliant viper
It has similar Armor to is7
neat nimbus
For something I was attracted to it
Type 64 got kind of my attention but may I pass but is tentative is rare to in offer often two times at same year
gentle wasp
It’s bad
fast compass
Hellcat is better. And it will be extremely strong if the reload buff goes through in 7.5
inland ivy
Pz iv S > Cromwell B? and should i get it if i have cromb?
gentle wasp
Yes, it’s a different playstyle and a great tank
neat nimbus
So that one?
inland ivy
should i get it if i have to sell twister camo and kuro?
gentle wasp
Yikes
inland ivy
im poor
neat nimbus
May I have a list
252u
Panzer 4 s if I sell spike and nightmare
Tier five but lately I haven't played them and I got gold booster
inland ivy
so... should i get rid of my kuro and twister?
neat nimbus
How many parts you for the fcm 50?
inland ivy
15/100
can't watch this weekend stream cant make it
neat nimbus
Oof
solid gate
How much golds K91 costs?
viral falcon
Hi, just a question? Why doesn't Blitzhangar already have the changes of next update?
Are they forbidden to leak from now on?
karmic nymph
Probably too early
fast compass
Has open test even started for them to get data
viral falcon
Yes, it has for a few days now if i'm correct.
slate peak
E25 go zoom
hushed shadow
Blitzhangar been a little slow lately
pliant viper
I'm fantastic with autoloaders so should I get the l40t or e5?
Cause tankeatingtiger said e5 is better overall
solid gate
252u or T-34-3?
river jacinth
bois how do you play an E50
hollow belfry
- Make sure you free exp the top gun (105mm) before playing it 2) Use terrain to hide your lower plate 3) be aware of the fact your turret front is weak and easy to penetrate 4) bully everything you can before starting a calculated push on weakened and isolated enemies, preferably mediums or lights.
solid gate
Do you know if this is with for Black Fiday or will there be more tanks coming (like daily or another set? I already have all the "relevant" tanks from this set
Absolutely no sence of baying another 252U to get 3000 gold and some tickers just to get Type 62
pliant viper
I think there could be another set?
pliant viper
I'm fantastic with autoloaders so should I get the l40t or e5?
?
red grotto
e5 is a good one
if you don't mind good tank with a strong turret that's really hard to pen, then u should get that one, but if you're so much in love with autoloaders then take lorraine
upper jolt
Is there something unique about the t-34-3 that that -2 doesnt have? In considering purchasing. That ks
Or is it just a more armored t-34-2?
So is it just me or does the black friday sale kinda seem lame?
fluid parrot
Any tips for AMX 30 prototype?
solid gate
So is it just me or does the black friday sale kinda seem lame?
I think it feels lame as well.
not very good tanks for sale exept 252uw
upper jolt
Not even interesting tanks for sale either
glass relic
not very good tanks for sale exept 252uw
252u is good but T26E5 better.
glass relic
Cause tankeatingtiger said e5 is better overall
Which is obvious enough that T26E5 is overall better choice than lorraine and you'd ended up with more satisfaction when playing it.
dim merlin
is the isu 122s any good?
candid harbor
it is just su 152 with its top gun
exact copy, just it earn more, bit more armoured and slight more mobile
pliant viper
if you don't mind good tank with a strong turret that's really hard to pen, the...
I took both
Type 62 is really good,I'm satisfied with all my purchases
I got 252u,e5,Lorraine,pz4s and type 62
safe sage
DRACULA or Lorraine + type 62 + obj252 + t26e5
distant nymph
I got a t-34-3 and the pz4 S. They're both actually quite good for me
glass relic
T-34-3 is Playstyle and personal taste dependent, but you should've wait and waste your gold for chimera rather than 34-3
distant nymph
eh chimera is kinda OP and I don't enjoy a tank that doesn't have drawbacks
may get the 252U too
candid harbor
chimera isn't op lel
it is like saying fv 4202 is op cuz handful of peeps can play it
spark basin
chimera has trash armor
distant nymph
didn't t34-3 have ok-good armor?
pliant viper
Lorraine is great for me
Enjoying the tank a lot
It's just that rng does not favour it
fast compass
It doesn't have the best accuracy. What hurts it the most are the dispersion multipliers
lost tree
When are the Black Friday sales ending?
stray plank
There's a timer right on the black friday page in game.
lost tree
Oh I see that now lol thanks
distant nymph
wait, the F, how does t-34-3 have 1 second aim time?
glass relic
Because chinese 122mm gun uniqueness on their mediums, it makes them specials to these kind of guns.
distant nymph
comparing the 34-3 to the chimera, I'd say they're about equal in strength - chimera has a bit of a better gun, 34-3 has better mobility and a bit better armor and is cheaper
candid harbor
@lost tree 10 days
chimera has better armour, dpm, gun handling, damage per shot, penetration, accuracy, flexibility, credit coefficient and hit points than T 34 3
not counting its special consumables
T 34 3 only has 1 sec better aim time, acceleration and traverse advantage
@distant nymph
T 34 3 is just not inferior, it has no chance to deal with chimera if they happen to be on opposite sides
distant nymph
terrain ressistances are better
glass relic
But still overall chimera wins againts that 34-3
candid harbor
yea 0.2 difference is going to give any advantage
distant nymph
won't chimera come in crates in blitz fair?
glass relic
Prob is since it's been on sale before and they could cash grab people again, since last time and still now the tank has a such high demand.
distant nymph
exactly why I chose the 34-3 over gambling for the chimera
candid harbor
even players performance stats scream t 34 3 is garbage infront of Chimera
solid gate
The top damage hall of fames aswell
glass relic
You really should invest on a new RAM
candid harbor
xD
solid gate
Hej
candid harbor
lel, even the 10 th highest damage in Chimera is greater than the highest damage of t 34 3
T 34 3 is an ok tank
Chimera is a good tank
glass relic
It just in between of meh and ok, since Ironically I've played T-34-3 for over 1k games for no reason.
glass relic
Lel, my 252u is collecting dust right now because I'm bored of it.
candid harbor
i wonder what is compensation for buying another of same tank
glass relic
Creds
candid harbor
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Alexandra said guld
analog verge
Flame mod? Why not?
fast compass
Alexandra is wrong then. 1.8million credit compensation for buying one of the 5 tier 8 tanks
glass relic
Flame mod? Why not?
Spear and sear attachment be like when the battle is about to start.
final night
@candid harbor @glass relic @fast compass Is Lorraine is an Autoloader or not?
fast compass
It is an autoloader
glass relic
Obviously is and wow that's unexpected
candid harbor
@final night a 4 shell 220 damage autoloader
glass relic
225 if i remember
final night
hohooho. Time to buy that step-progretto 46 @candid harbor
candid harbor
what are you doing step progetto xD
ok, I will leave
glass relic
Lol that just doesn't sounds right.
spark basin
hold up
candid harbor
i'll go back to gutter
this place is too good
tacit kite
why do people say super conqueror is bad?
candid harbor
it's gun is rushian
tacit kite
i c i guess its balanced
analog verge
I think most bad tank is t34 2
candid harbor
i would argue it is better than t343
tacit kite
chinese tier 8 td is a bit awkward too
analog verge
When ı play t34 1 ı liked tank but t34 2 is exacyly disappointment for me
candid harbor
why lel
glass relic
If you don't like using 122mm gun then just run the 100mm
candid harbor
don't run 100mm, it is not a t44
embrace wz121s gun, it would help in playing wz 120 and 121 later
glass relic
Well it'll become a T-34-100 if you run the 100mm
Me who haven't researched 121 line, yet i have 34-3 and playing the tank without a trouble.
Technically there is a trouble but well i don't have the difficulties of not knowing the Playstyle 😂
candid harbor
you have already mastered the wei
it is kinda sad that you don't carry over t 34 2 122m gun to wz 120
glass relic
Da wei, well i might try to get the 121 after i get my 268 but before going through the 121 line i'd go through the HT so i won't suffer on the grinds
Ironically me who cannot use inaccurate gun likes the SU-152.... Accuracy....
candid harbor
I don't like the looks of heavies
never tried to play them xd
glass relic
I like WZ-111-4 it looks sexy looking with that 130mm gun.
And somehow the looks of the IS-2 and 110 makes me looks like I'm meme'ing through the battle.
candid harbor
yea 110 is like the kid next door, that everyone wonders why you don't hang out with him
glass relic
Hmm I'm that kind of person who doesn't hang out with others rather i just went meme'ing with tanks in Blitz.
candid harbor
i am relating to this at too personal level to be true
untold stirrup
😂
glass relic
Someone just laughed, that's weird he must've seen something out of a circus
jade pivot
Have we all forgotten about the Ferdinand, it’s not gotten a lot of attention from the last past years I think it should be buffed bec I can’t survive a single battle in that thing.
candid harbor
let it die
it was a failure that shouldn't have been continued further
jade pivot
Oh cmon
glass relic
Let alone It has quite a good amount of WR in the chart 👀
jade pivot
?
glass relic
#devs-answers look, that thing even beats JP2 WR
People plays it and do well with it, the thing is that it's underrated in most cases, flat armor and slow mobility makes it has uneasy thought
jade pivot
The old Ferdinand is nothing compared to literally alol other tanks in the tier list
candid harbor
it is garbage and those stats are lie
there is absolutely no way
55%-65% player don't know how to use ru 251
azure carbon
Is t-34-85 good
jade pivot
He but a Ferdinand vs a new tank is not fair
candid harbor
@azure carbon it is ok, maintain distance and shoot
don't brawl or frontline
glass relic
Prob got HE'd a lot.
jade pivot
I don’t they come to me and then I can’t hide
candid harbor
stay with your team mates
let them tank hit
you are just a second line support
that shouldn't have existed, if they could have decided to scrap useless tiger ps
jade pivot
It’s not easy hiding a Ferdinand among other tanks and slow mobility makes it hard to keep up
Well what do you mean with second line?
candid harbor
it is hard to keep up, not hide amongst them
being behind heavies, not being the one taking hit
twin bane
Jpanther 2 just doomed out Ferdinand
jade pivot
Are you tryin to to bring the Ferdinand history and try to compare if to wot? I know everything about the Ferdinand and how it was a failure the Porsche tiger
candid harbor
yes
send me your replay, I can try to highlight yoyr mistakes
jade pivot
Cool, but any hits to make it better?
It’s too long I’ll have to upload it to YouTube and you watch it ok?
candid harbor
replay files at max are 1mb large
jade pivot
Here’s a snip it of mah couple first battle
glass relic
Well i guess you have a bad internet over discord that you couldn't even upload -1mb files.
jade pivot
Nevermind it doesn’t work bec of the stupid GB on dicord but that could be the case as well
candid harbor
rip :c
twin bane
VK 168 IS A JOKE
Neither it looks good nor has good stats lol
glass relic
Well driving Mäuschen Backwards is a joke honestly.
jade pivot
I’ve just uploaded a movie to YouTube!
You can check it out here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sau7tYWZXec
brisk river
@frigid ember Hi, PM pls.
half reef
How is the progetto, and everytime I go in rating, people are very toxic to me. How do I play progetto?
candid harbor
@jade pivot I see
there are several mistakes done here
first is of course playing this tank
second it is stock
third you leave your weakspot exposed to enemy
forth you stay in open, when fighting a bigger gun tank than yours
fifth you don't use your teammates' hp, you use your own, when you are the support tank
half reef
So can I scout
candid harbor
@half reef dunno mate, i don't have that tank
jade pivot
Well thx for the help I’ll be using it differently now
half reef
So I support tds or heavie's?
jade pivot
Wut?
half reef
I try supporting heavies, I get killed. support TDs, I do no dmg
jade pivot
What tank are referring to
half reef
progetto 46
candid harbor
don't drive forward into territory your teammates haven't been to
you have a bit of armour but it can be negated by using gold shells
grind the top gun and try resisting any urge of being first to go somewhere
try to hold yourself behind your teammates
@jade pivot
half reef
Use my teamates as a wall?
candid harbor
as extra hp
jade pivot
Ye but also for me
half reef
But is6 I can't pen
jade pivot
So I have to artillery bacically?
half reef
Can I platoon with someone to help me with progetto? My Wotb name is Derpymcnuggets.
candid harbor
@jade pivot yes, but that doesn't mean you need to be in spawn
there are few positions on every map for tds to support from at the start to middle of match
in end game you can be more aggressive and use your hp to save friendlies
half reef
Find clan named 31st_Panzer division, 3 memebers,friend and platoon me Name:Derpymcnuggets. vehicle, Progetto mod 35 46. Rating, silver.
azure carbon
i kinda would buy the FV201 A45 if i know how good or bad it is, same goes for the ISU-122S
half reef
I should be on at 1:30-3:30
glass relic
FV201 is like BP but no armor on hull but can hulldown if you're fighting the same tier enemy HTs
azure carbon
wb the ISU
glass relic
It's just a DPM TD that should just sit back relax at a bush behind your HT or MT to support them with your DPM, if someone decided to rush your teammates and expose themselves towards you.
Also fv201 has that forehead and cupola that will be annoying to cover when hulldown, so be careful.
azure carbon
I've never tried higher tier tanks ,but are these any good to get into high tier?
iron galleon
I've never tried higher tier tanks ,but are these any good to get into high tier?
@azure carbon i think yes except super Pershing , the other 2 are good you can also try fv201 a45
azure carbon
Object has the highest win rate out of the 3, is there a reason?
actually object is the one with the highest win rate out of all those tanks being sold
gentle wasp
blitzstars winrate doesn't mean much because it doesn't tell you what part of the playerbase is playing it
azure carbon
but is the object good?
glass relic
Go for T26E5 the easiest tank to play out of all 3 but still is a good and effective tank.
252u is good but need knowledge and lots of awareness.
iron galleon
but is the object good?
@azure carbon it has good armor ehich resists even lowe. But still i would advise not to buy that if you not pro. I would advise you to go for fv201 a45 easiest heavy to play but it is actually like medium
azure carbon
i lack everything you just mentioned so
glass relic
I'd say go for T26E5 because you're like AX but has lesser weakspots when poking around ridges.