Abrams would be pretty broke
#vehicles-discussion
wispy rain
Id rather want to see the independent as a tier 3 or 4 heavy tank
I believe that is what its name was..it was a British 'landship' like the t-28
analog verge
Maybe mendeleyev tank in tier 1.heavy rubbish but can be funnly.
wispy rain
I would love to also see some ww2 italian tanks and even some tankettes
analog verge
Yeah italian tank skills is different.
analog verge
I want see 2 Turkish product tank.tier 5 or 6
wispy rain
Maybe a Puma? It was an german armored car with an okay gun attached, could work as a tier 3 or 4 light tank
hollow notch
I want an elc even 90
wispy rain
Or maybe even the T O G I
analog verge
I think wg will take wheely tanks in short time later.
wispy rain
I know wheely tanks are awful in pc, but the puma could treated like a light tank if done right
kindred wren
@thick trout The E4’s playstyle is completely different to the E3’s playstyle so I can consider one broken and the other not even if they just swap armour. The E4 is supposed to be penetrable because it is more focused on damage dealing and trading shots and not on tanking enemy tanks. That’s what the entire line is about and I don’t see a reason to change that. If anything, they should promote the E4’s playstyle and not just make it more universally applicable by just buffing the poor features
hollow notch
Yes... a dpm buff would be very welcome.
wispy rain
Oo, why not the Avenger? It was a Wolverine with a British 17-pounder as its gun, could be a tier 5 or 6 british TD
Was it the Avenger or the Achilles? Mightve been the Achilles..
kindred wren
Achilles
wispy rain
Right, right, my bad.
analog verge
We have enough british td
wispy rain
I feel like it would be a slightly better tank to lead to the turreted british tds than the Sherman Firefly tho
thick trout
@kindred wren The E4s playstyle is different because it's literally a failiure. It's only played as a damage dealer because it's armour is so laughably bad. It isn't supposed to be brilliant but not a literal joke. The line is pretty awful as well, apart from the T30 which has actual armour. That doesn't mean the E4 has to be awful too. The E4 line goes from paper against HE -> paper against AP -> meh pretty bad -> good turret -> bad. There is no clear correlation there at all. Of anything it's better armour as you go up. The E4s playstyle is more of the default playstyle which tanks that fail at their job fall into, and there's no reason to keep it there. A dpm buff isn't really what it needs but it would be welcome, but an armour buff makes the tank what it should be
kind bluff
armor is fine you have to at least aim to pen it from a distance if it's moving
it's just at an awkward spot where there's something that can do it's job better like an E100
kindred wren
@thick trout The tank is not a failure at all
cries in playing above my tier ten average stats in it
The line has consistently moderately high alpha for the tier and reasonably good accuracy paired with reasonably good dpm. The armour is a bit of a mixed bag but that’s not really a focus of the line since it has some armour in places which change, but it’s not armour focused at all
I say at all a lot
thick trout
@kind bluff The "from a distance" is the issue because it just pushes people into camping more and more in a turreted and supposedly armoured TD.
@kindred wren Its certainly on the low side of tier 10 TDs and that from people who can play it well. It has a very low skill floor as well as an extremely disappointing ceiling so it's a pretty good failiure performance wise. The gun fits in with the rest of the line as fairly good but not brilliant, but the armour:mobility doesn't
I don't think you say it much at all 😏
kindred wren
The T30 is a bit special but if you play that line for T30 gameplay you should know what you’re going for. It’s like playing the AT line for 183 gameplay, you don’t get it until you are there
kind bluff
eh it was fine to play for me
maybe if it became slightly better at accelerating or turning it would become great
kindred wren
It’s on the low side of tds, but if you look at tds isolated the performance is perfectly justifiable. It’s just that all tds in tier ten seem to perform quite bad with 55-65% players, but that is an issue with the class and should be addressed as such
thick trout
It has higher damage but lower than my average performce which is what I expected from a tank that forces you to farm instead of doing anything useful.
It's marginally low on the stats side but there isn't really a reason to choose it at all. If you want a good gun there are plenty to choose from, if you want armour you go for the E100, and if you want both you go for the E3. In my eyes it should be more adaptable E3 that is worse at holding positions, but I don't think we agree on what we want the tank to be so it's sort of a loop
kind bluff
lol it was higher in performance and damage for me jaj
kindred wren
I can see some parallels here with the M48 Patton which isn’t actually bad but most people think that they can just do better with other tanks.
I actually outperformed both winrate and average damage in it and think it’s really pleasant to play.
About the whole td class, in order to deal with heavies they might need a better dom, but the issue is that the mediums might not be able to deal with tds sufficiently anymore so mediums would probably need better mobility and that’s where the powercreep starts
thick trout
I think the most battles I ever had in a single day was 7 because it's just not fun or interestimg or worth playing to me lol
I think TDs as a whole are fine how they are, the E4 doesn't need to be competitive but it would be nice. To me I play TDs for a challenge, because oddly I enjoy the restrictions of the lack of turret and finding ways around it, so maybe that's why I can't get on with the E4
onyx venture
The E4 just needs at least 1-2 degrees more of gun depression to be pretty good imo, just too many cases where the lack of gun depression gets in the way
Also buffing the cupola would also be pretty epic so only TD rounds will go through; but an increase in gun depression would be enough for me
true socket
yea. the fact that any tank can pen cupola with ease is the main killer
keen escarp
The E4 has 2000 hp right?
tacit orbit
Negative
onyx venture
1800 I believe
keen escarp
Ok
rigid lintel
Anyone here no how to make a clan poster? like what app?
elfin marten
Fast he shell or slow ap shell?
plucky summit
1150m/s
elfin marten
I mean average for hevis fast he shell or slow ap shell?
plucky summit
Lowe has the highest AP shell velocity in class (Tier 8 Heavies)
Oh nvm it wouldn't scroll, IS-6 has higher
Nvm nvm, they use APCR
elfin marten
Maybe check the shell type? Find another German tank with that same shell name and see if it has same velocity.
plucky summit
Lowe still holds the highest AP shell velocity in class, as well as HE, even vs the APCR standard rounds
Lowe, though, does not have the highest standard shell velocity, given APCR generally has a high shell velocity, and it is such vs Lowe's AP shell
Lowe has PzGr39 L1 shells, Tiger II has PzGr39 L shells, slightly, but different
elfin marten
Is velocity different by how much?
plucky summit
Yes:
Lowe = 1150 / 1438 / 1150
Tiger II = 1100 / 1375 / 1100
VERY SIMILAR, especially having the same AP/HE shell velocity, but not the same
elfin marten
What about the gun name?
plucky summit
Lowe: 10,5 cm Kw. K. L/70
Tiger II: 10,5 cm Kw. K. L/68
Again, very similar, but not the same
elfin marten
Ok
crystal hare
@plucky summit you said you were drawing tank combos?
If so do a Matilda with 107 mm gun
plucky summit
@crystal hare sure thing
Ima warn you though, my quality is questionable and the scaling could be horrid, but so I try (Matilda has a crazy turret ngl)
plucky summit
@crystal hare here’s my attempt
Gonna be honest, that was probably the most detailed tank drawing I've ever done 😅
hollow moth
Nice Matilda bro
plucky summit
Thanks, not sure if the scale for a 107mm was good
crystal hare
Good Matilda, the gun could’ve been bigger, but I don’t care, Good job, better than I could’ve done!
plucky summit
Thank you
solid gate
How good is the M103?
plucky summit
If you're hulldown, pretty decent, but you better dance with that turret
inland osprey
I was surprised that the WZ-111-14 can actually pen the M103's turret in a facehug
grand linden
the m103 has a really weak turret
inland osprey
That's sad
viral lodge
It’s decent for med tank bullying, it’s a Heavium tho. And do not stock grind
grand linden
i can pen the turret cheeks with type 59 pramo if there was one tier 9 i dont mind seeing on the enemy team the m103 would be it
viral lodge
It has a solid gun (same pen as the E5) so it’s basically a large med with a little more armour and a punchy gun.
grand linden
The m103 is a tank that you don't mind running and enemies don't mind seeing
viral lodge
Pretty much, it just exists.
rocky atlas
What tank should I work to. I want a strong turret an an heavy gun with decent reload So I can poke a hill fire an duck back down. Tier 4-8. Dm me with a list
plucky summit
T34 ;)
hollow moth
In my opinion as a guy that is playing M103 to get E5, the hull armor is basically inexistent
Sidescrape is impossible with about 54mm of side armor
The turret can be penetrated on cheeks and on cupola, but hold E100 shots easily, also any angle can make you an easy bait
About the cannon... I felt more like a TD than like a heavy tank, it have good penetration, good DPM, good precision (for a heavy) and a comfortable alpha
Agility is good for a heavy, but nothing like a medium tank, even FCM 50 T is more agile
Strong turret, heavy gun and decent reload? Bro you want a Löwe and a T34@rocky atlas
On tier 7: T29, Tiger 1 and jagdpanther 1 (ok ok, it don't have a turret but have a stronger armor than most of the heavies on tier 7, also a strong cannon too)
On tier 6: Vk 36.01, ARL 44 (ok ok, if have the turret as a weak spot but the hull works pretty well, same for that gun)
Tier 5: T1 Heavy, T14 (low penetration and average alpha but very high reload), KV-220 (same situation of T14)
Tier 4: I don't play tier 4 since a good time, but have ya played hetzer? It don't have a turret but it's well armored
pallid gorge
Personally I like the M103,it's quick,pretty reliable and can even stand it's ground against tier 10
hollow moth
I agree, but the hull armor makes me feel that I'm playing a French Heavy
worldly crest
T29 was where it’s at
strange thicket
In my opinion as a guy that is playing M103 to get E5, the hull armor is basically inexistent
Sidescrape is impossible with about 54mm of side armorThe turret can be penetrated on cheeks and on cupola, but hold E100 shots easily, also any angle can make you an easy bait
About the cannon... I felt more like a TD than like a heavy tank, it have good penetration, good DPM, good precision (for a heavy) and a comfortable alpha
Agility is good for a heavy, but nothing like a medium tank, even FCM 50 T is more agile
@hollow moth i disagree
when shooting an m103 in my EXP the hull still had some red over it
it is not in existent it is kind of troll too
and it becomes stronger when you are hulldown
pennable cheeks? just keep wiggling and moving
it is not like it is a very large and comfortable area they can shoot at
haughty forge
Americans has curved hull, it will eventually bounce and troll you
little tangle
Hey goys, wanna see a mega rng moment? (If u hate smashers u will)
karmic nymph
The m103 is pretty decent in my opinion, especially with those consumables and the sandbags. And the turret and upper plate is pretty bouncy imo
inland osprey
How does the STA-1 compare to other meds? I'm going up the Japanese medium line and that's the next tank I'll be getting.
tulip sundial
M103 is basically an American Conquerer
haughty forge
@tulip sundial very bad tank
tulip sundial
Wut? They need buffs but they’re not bad
haughty forge
@tulip sundial sta 1 is line is worst
tulip sundial
I never said it was good
haughty forge
and no , i dont want any buffs, the line is hard and u will get stb1 as a great reward
tulip sundial
I’m talking about the Conquerer and the M103
haughty forge
ah sorry'''
tulip sundial
It was @inland osprey that was asking about the STA 1
woven tangle
E4 really need dispersion buff
inland osprey
Welp time to free xp
haughty forge
@tulip sundial my bad, i pinged wrong person
tulip sundial
We need the Centurion Action X as an alternate ending to the fv4202 line, just like the 140 and t62 are alt endings to the t54
hollow notch
That's a few layers of armor
brisk jacinth
Have just the tiger 2 earned your opinion on the tank?
tulip sundial
It’s a solid tank
brisk jacinth
@hollow notch How did you make this presentation?
solemn wasp
O
wheat wing
The Panther II makes me suffer, what should i grind for? SU 122 54 or Obj 704? high dpm or high dps?
lyric copper
depends on what you like to play more
solid gate
What is this
lyric copper
a Vindicator, WoTB did a collaboration with the Warhammer 40K franchise
lyric copper
it’s just a worse SU-152
solid gate
Su is annoying when its on enemy team
lyric copper
yeah, but it’s inaccurate, if you get hit by one you’ve made big mistakes
solid gate
Yep
green moth
did y'all know there is unused audio in the game files for a damaged radio?
a Vindicator, WoTB did a collaboration with the Warhammer 40K franchise
@lyric copper It also has 2 legendary camos, those being DA and IF
fast compass
It has 3 right? UM, DA and IF
rotund palm
Is VK 168 Worth buying?
lyric copper
no
green moth
depends on your play style
I prefer heavies & TDs, so, I bought it. (back at christmas)
It has 3 right? UM, DA and IF
@fast compass UM isnt a camo for the vindicator & predator, thats normal for them
rotund palm
@green moth We both like Heavies and TDs
I don't know how to use Meds and Lights (Except T22 Medium)
green moth
im okay with Strv m/40
kindred wren
Run away from heavies, that’s how you play them
rotund palm
And get the turretless TDs lol
green moth
or death circle heavies if the med is fast enough
kindred wren
It never is
rotund palm
T22 Medium is good for me
green moth
strv can death circle KV-1 no problem
kindred wren
You can’t even really circle a 183 and that doesn’t even have a fully traversable turret
Well, you can circle but only if it’s an open field and the heavy doesn’t move to some obstacles
green moth
just this morning i was outmaneuvering E 100 in a grille (tbf that E was a bit dumb)
kindred wren
Yeah, to be honest it is possible but only if your enemy is really bad
green moth
a mauschen stole my kill too
green moth
F
toxic hamlet
Im confuse. Are the certificates of these is random on mission crates ?
hushed shadow
You opened a smasher crate. One of the possible rewards is these parts for the Tankenstein certificate. You can’t get more of these parts from the missions, but maybe other crates will have some
toxic hamlet
No its autoloader right?
sudden granite
stock is autoloader, spaded is autoreloader
toxic hamlet
Wait i didnt meant to say "no"
It has 3 shells right? Use the first shell on the enemy's track and cover and shoot again but dont get shot by doin it
sudden granite
yeah.. but I'm using the stock gun
hollow belfry
Wasted 440 gold to buy this
I really enjoy driving it
sudden granite
which equipment slots should i run on the standard B?
tulip sail
I dont think thats how wasting gold works
fair vigil
Hey, I have a question lads, which German heavy line is best? E100 or Maus?
sudden granite
E100 line is great for newbies up till the E100, Maus is great, but the grind will make you smash your device
fair vigil
Which one can bounce shots easier?
hollow belfry
Maus
copper kindle
maus obvs absorbs the shots but E-100 can get a little more out of sidescraping
fair vigil
Okay, thank you lads, back to it I guess
sudden granite
yeah, but prammo spammers shred your turret in the E100
hollow belfry
E100’s sides aren’t much better. The side armor below the sideskirts is only like 120mm, it’s very easy to pen it through the drive wheel even angled.
copper kindle
the maus' sidecheeks aren't exactly immune to prammo either
hollow belfry
The Maus has 210mm turret sides and therefore can angle much more affectively than an E100 does.
fair vigil
Thank you for the tips guys, I really appreciate it!
nimble kraken
Walker bulldog the best. Change my mind.
rotund palm
Buff my Turret sides
feral zephyr
No T28 port is insane
analog verge
Nah
steady sapphire
Smasher op
feral zephyr
Smasher is okay. OBJ 263 OP
hollow belfry
263 isn’t that good compared to the 268
feral zephyr
263 is more frontline 268 is more sniper
feral zephyr
What’s your point? They are built for different roles
T28 is a second-line imo whereas the e 100 is a frontline or maybe sniper. Plus e 100 is two tiers higher
T28 prot is very balanced imo
feral zephyr
Roles are very important. Looking at only speed, it may look disproportionate. However, if you take into account everything, it makes sense for each tank. The E100 is a t10, so naturally it will be faster.
hushed shadow
Speed doesn’t need to be better for higher tiers. The bulldog is faster than the T49 for example.
The hellcat is much faster than the T28 proto too
feral zephyr
ok sure maybe buff t28 prot speed
elfin marten
American XM-1 GM (General Motors version) prototype looks like hull of chieftain?
hushed shadow
The chieftain hull is a bit more rounded
rotund palm
.
feral zephyr
best t10 td for frontline?
viral lodge
E3
feral zephyr
ok thx
quartz socket
Did u know that if u use HE shell with T29 or T34 it will do more then 400 damage(If penetrated)
lyric copper
not like if I can just look at the shell dmg stats
viral lodge
You do realize @quartz socket that the T34 has 400 AP alpha.
ebon tendon
Walker bulldog the best. Change my mind.
@nimble kraken I agree. Managed to get a class two with 300 damage thanks to speed.
lyric copper
he did 300dmg and got a 2nd class
keen escarp
Oop
viral lodge
Is 2nd class meant to be an achievement? Im so confused
lyric copper
no it’s to show how he used his speed to get assist dmg and got a 2nd class outta it
viral lodge
Id be more annoyed they didnt contribute dmg.
It basically means they yolo'd, shot 2 tanks, spotted, and didnt contribute past that.
quartz socket
not like if I can just look at the shell dmg stats
@lyric copper kk i will send the screen short of the damage...
viral lodge
@quartz socket https://tank-compare.blitzstars.com/ a lot of people use this, it is easy to see the dmg there.
solid gate
should i abandon my grind for is7 and just go for the 268 the grind looks way easier and might be a more fun tier x tank
hushed shadow
Yea the 268 line can be fun
viral lodge
BL-10 go derp
solid gate
alright imma sell my is8 then
hushed shadow
Do you need to sell IS8? If you don’t have the credits maybe it’s a good choice to sell, but if you do have the credits it may just be better to keep the tank, since you’ll have to grind credits later when you want to resume the grind
solid gate
the is8 cost me almost all my credits and i’m tryna get the max gun but it sucks when i can’t penn a jagpz e100’s lower plate and i get hit for 800 damage and die in 3 seconds
wanton saffron
You are playing it wrong, Is8 is not a front line heavy. Flank with meds, wait in ambush, play a peek a boo style medium to long range engagements.
You have excellent mobility for a heavy, use it.
solid gate
i guess i’m still stuck in the is3 mindset where i just go frontline
hollow belfry
The IS-3’s hull armor doesn’t really allow you to stand in the open at close range though.
solid gate
when i’m high tier in it i loved just face hugging people and watching them try shoot my cupola
wanton saffron
In an IS8?
solid gate
in my is3
wanton saffron
Ahh.
solid gate
guess that’s what i’m doing wrong alright next game i’ll try pushing with my meds
hollow belfry
Facehugging only works with low pen tanks, or tall opponents with no gun depression
solid gate
i did it so much times against enemy lowë, vk 100’s, and tiger 2’s just watching them bounce off my hull and turret and me racking up the damage was really fun
hollow belfry
Must have been bad players then. Most german heavies have both enough pen and gun depression to pen the hull
If shooting from above a Löwe could also pen your cupola. I have a sweet spot to do so, the Löwe is tall enough to aim above the rock at the top of the hill on mines, and it allows to get some hits.
hollow belfry
Get the KV-1s, then the KV-3 and keep going the IS-4 line.
bright tendon
@hollow belfry what about the leopard line
hollow belfry
Get both the VK 30.01 D and VK 28.01.
bright tendon
@hollow belfry but if I had to get one what would u recommend
hollow belfry
Get both. It won’t cost you money anyways. I’d probably go for the VK 30.01 D but not as my first T6.
bright tendon
Wat do u mean it won't cost money. It does cost coins to unlock them @hollow belfry
hollow belfry
You’re not going to spend cash to buy a tech tree tank.
About two weeks ago I started a free to play account to see how I can manage my credits and find the best way to grind a tech tree in order to save as much free experience as possible.
stray cedar
Worth?
kindred wren
Uhm... yes but actually no
The thing is that they are not exactly epic tanks (they are all just decent)
Also, the price tag is a bit higher than it really needs to be
stray cedar
Not getting then. Have the smasher so i have all i need for t6-7.
lost tree
?
nimble kraken
ah, yes anime and tanks make the best thing in the world. Girls und panzer
kindred wren
Sorry, I can’t since I haven’t played the thing in ages. I’m not exactly an enthusiast for it
viral falcon
Sorry, neither do I really like it, haven't played it in months after reached max crew.
jovial yew
@bright tendon get the vk28.01 and never use the 300 dmg gun
sterile lark
is the dicher max offer worth?
jovial yew
depends are you good at tds
warm bane
@stray cedar what did u do to get that pop up offer
stray cedar
Earlier today
warm bane
not when, what did u do to make the offer apear?
stray cedar
Idk. I just played a game. I think i was playing one of the german super heavies. Why?
warm bane
hmm, my buddy really wants thos avatars
viral lodge
The Max offer is really just 30 day prem with a free T6 TD slapped on it.
haughty forge
And it is worth
trim lion
olive badge
what's the best tank to buy if I have 3500 gold rn
plucky summit
Nothing, save up ;)
olive badge
for....?
plucky summit
Lowe
dull ether
Or auction if you want to be cheeky
olive badge
?
dull ether
The Blitz Fair auction that happens towards the end of the year
olive badge
if I was to choose to save for Lowe or the Blitz auction, which one do I choose
plucky summit
If you want a pretty nice tier 8 credits grinder, Lowe,, if you wanna risk it for the biscuit, auction
nimble kraken
They should add the abrams to blitz
mental violet
Add the AT TE while they’re at it
viral lodge
@olive badge If you have no premium tanks and you need a prem to make credits go for the Lowe or M4 Rev. If you more just want a prem to play/for comp play wait for other tanks.
olive badge
will do, thanks
bold wadi
@rigid lintel lmfao idk why you gotta be toxic i left YWING lmao
blazing cobalt
w e h r a b o o j a h d p a n z e r
hollow moth
This Jagdpanzer E100 with frontal mounted casemate would be very interesting to the game, in my opinion
mellow glacier
Jagdpanzer “Krokodil”
i’m considering buying the GuP collector tanks because i am a huge fan of the show, and i heard the ankou was good. Not sure about the Kuro or hetzer
delicate barn
once I get the turret on the panther, should I use the 200 alpha gun or the stock gun until I get the max gun?
mellow glacier
I’ve heard the Kuro is good, comparable to a slightly worse collector VK36 but I don’t care about stats much, i just want the tank with decent gameplay
I am like 90% convinced i should buy the pack
wispy rain
@delicate barn use the stock gun, it has more pen, more dpm, better gun depression and has slightly less dispersion than the 200 alpha gun. 160 alpha is still viable in tier 7.
tulip sail
The Kuro is a pretty good tank its a slightly better tiger 131
delicate barn
alrigth thanks for the info
wispy rain
No problem!
gentle wasp
@tulip sail both of them are pretty crap
tulip sail
Not really they do a decent job at being a heavium but when used as traditional heavies there much better options
gentle wasp
Vk blows them out of the water
warm flare
vert stab or refined gun for t49 derp?
gentle wasp
Vstab
warm flare
k
bright tendon
Also wanted to ask is it OK doing 2 lines at once. Rn I'm going to tier 6 and I want the kv1s and the vk28. 01 so should I get and work on both for variety or should I focus on one line.
Thnx
fast compass
languid needle
@modern mica I’m pretty sure the server doesn’t allow us normal players to use @ everyone
languid needle
I would recommend to not ping War gaming staff neither. First they prob won’t reply, sec I think it’s against the rules idk
And just look at the post just above, it says the event last till August 14
haughty forge
@modern mica cant u read #game-news bruh
modern mica
i did
solid gate
89mm autocannon lmao
In ur dreams
zenith bison
Asking lah
solid gate
3cm
haughty forge
@modern mica it is written from 12 august to 14th
modern mica
i see
solid gate
Just bought ARL 44 which gun is better for ARL 44 ??
zenith bison
I made a 4cm Autocannon MK109 on the tank i designing
keen escarp
Imma grind for P 43 bis gun in 12 mins
blazing cobalt
or use the event gun you have in the garage
keen escarp
@blazing cobalt you talking about me.
Oh nvm
blazing cobalt
ye idk
blazing cobalt
@keen escarp depends what gun u grind for
rose venture
The wz-120 should have 5 degrees of gun depression like the wz121. 3 is just atrocious... yes or no?
mellow glacier
I just got the GuP set and the ankou is Poggers
The Hetzer is OK, I find that the UFP is solid along with manlet, good speed for a TD. The only problem is no turret but the gun is very enjoyable
Haven’t played Kuro yet but i assume it plays like a Pre-buff Tiger
solid gate
Kuro is mediocre and is arguably worse than pre buff tiger
Honestly you were better off buying something else besides collecting them
mellow glacier
Nah i have nothing else to buy and i like grinding tech tree tanks
Kuro isn’t too bad, 4 battles in and i bounce most same tier shells, plus an avg of 1700 dmg. While mobility could be better I think it’s a nice and solid tank
I get most of my aces at tier 6 anyway and it’s very familiar to me. Kuro seems to have good pen as well and nice accuracy
restive ravine
Just bought ARL 44 which gun is better for ARL 44 ??
@solid gate use the last 90mm DCA 45, the gun tier 8
solid gate
OK THX 👍
tame mirage
Does anyone here enjoy playing t32?
blazing cobalt
k
keen escarp
:)
analog verge
@hollow moth yes ı agree
tired apex
Nerf smasher
open solstice
I wish they buff the turret cheeks and upper plate of t110e5 and return the cupola
haughty forge
bruh e 5 is already strong @open solstice
open solstice
Not for me bro,i dont want specific roles in my tank,like wz113 is also quite like a mt,but it doesn't need to rely only on hulldown situations
tulip edge
It’s a pretty unnecessary change, the E5 is fine how it is right now.
open solstice
Yea other players are enjoying it and its probably not meant for my playstyle,but it sucks coming the whole line of amazing tanks which are amazing tier for tier and then i get this
I probably will end up selling it for obj 268
open solstice
Its strong only when you're facing enemy at all times,as soon as you rotate it,it is easy pen for all tanks that it can face
haughty forge
then dont rotate duh , stop complaining about tank that u cant play
open solstice
Alright man you win,I'm selling this because it doesn't fit my playstyle
I don't need to argue with super unicums
haughty forge
solid gate
@haughty forge can try now
I wish they buff the turret cheeks and upper plate of t110e5 and return the cupola
@open solstice use extra armor equipment and don't idle with ur turret
haughty forge
but u are still going to loose and no i dont have time @solid gate
solid gate
@haughty forge bruh not gonna lose u know i missed 3 clear shots out of now where cuz of ping
to me E5 just better than Chieftain n Superconq, ezstat padding tank
And gave u my side cuz the tank turned all alone
open solstice
@solid gate I'll try that out,i need to watch some reviews on it i guess to properly equip it
solid gate
When i only pressed A for less than a sec
@solid gate I'll try that out,i need to watch some reviews on it i guess to properly equip it
@open solstice take the extra hp provision, with extra 5% armor you gonna bounce shots more often
@haughty forge when u have time again ping me
solid gate
Yep
@haughty forge see tiger can win
First match was my win
And 2nd yea why not u blocked my hit on 14HP xD
Shud have use HE
haughty forge
@solid gate ftw
solid gate
Tiger is very good just admit it
haughty forge
yes
pearl escarp
I wanna buy the girls und panzer offer just for the avatars prob not worth it
solid gate
vickers CR is op
kindred wren
It really is a bit more expensive than it should be, £10 would be a good price and £12-15 an okish price
acoustic sparrow
the panzer 4/5 is very op, i bought it some years ago and yesterday i started playing it again, it has good protection, fast gun and can be fast as the leopard
haughty forge
last part is a lie
kindred wren
Well yes but actually no
cloud ore
need team
shell summit
Why do people care so much about avatars lately :/
solid gate
Why WG dont buff the 1st gun of the foch 155 the 2nd ok dont need a buff but why not the 1st
analog verge
I am using 1st gun in amx ac48.8teir jady.dont need any buff.
solid gate
@analog verge the foch 155 the t10
rose venture
Buff is3
real gorge
hushed shadow
@analog verge He is asking for a buff to the ‘1st gun’ of the Foch 155, the tier X tank in the first picture you’ve sent. Not the other two tanks you sent below it
analog verge
@hushed shadow ı thinked tier 8 and 9s guns same with foch 155 but yes its different guns.sorry120 mm and 155mm
delicate barn
It does 930 damage it doesn't need a buff
haughty forge
@solid gate what kind of buff
tiny plume
Buff smasher
delicate barn
buff armor on French heavies
plucky summit
What if they gave FV215b a functional upper plate 😳
lyric oriole
@delicate barn AMX M4 54 line has armor
hushed shadow
Yea if only they’d be tech tree :((
plucky summit
Sure why not
Planes too o-o
Vurr nice, the slight blurring in the one pic makes the bullet spray more chaotic
keen escarp
Niceee
stray cedar
W h a t t h e f u c k a r e t h o s e?
Anyways Chieftain MK6 good in ratings? I love the tank. Does everything great except maaaybe face/side hug.
feral zephyr
I'm really caught up deciding between obj 263 and obj 268 please mention with reply
gentle wasp
268 @feral zephyr every tank in the line is better and easier to play, with the exception of t9
feral zephyr
okay thank you
calm drum
joshua the inevitable#9213 was muted
kindred wren
Again?
hollow belfry
Is the D. Max worth buying? I got enough gold and am kind of curious
gentle wasp
Very much so, it’s one of the best t6 tanks. Plus you get a month of premium.
kindred wren
You basically get it as a free gift for buying 30 days of premium. And the tank itself is also fairly good, since the turn speed, extremely good gundepression, reload and highish alpha make it versatile
haughty forge
Is it possible to not pen Leo pta from side , not hit the fully aimed ho ri that is 150 meters away(it kept hitting mantlet ) on jageru?!
gentle wasp
The armor is not as bad as it seems either. Gets a ton of troll bounces, especially when using the gun depression
hollow belfry
I'll buy it then. Sounds pretty interesting to play, I like my Nashorn a lot.
Done, I like it for all the reasons mentioned above
gentle wasp
Nice, glad to see that :)
hollow belfry
Thank you for your opinion. I should rebuy my Jagdpanzer IV and maybe compare all the 3 german T6 TD's. Been re-exploring the Nashorn on my alt and wrote a review on it
haughty forge
Jagdpanzer is op , has more dpm than jageroo lol
gentle wasp
Those three are all quite fun
hollow belfry
The Nashorn shines by it's gun, the Jagdpanzer by the raw dpm and Max by the peek a boom ability/gun dep combination. Didn't play the second one for a long time but I remember all these three as good.
solid gate
I was considering rebuying jg 4 to grind TD crew skills
dense magnet
Max is nice damage but boiiiii sometimes you shoot and you see the ground a few meters out shoot up in the air and the tank you were aiming at stares at you in confusion
hollow belfry
I was kind of surprised by the Max’s mobility, I guess that such a gun with 15 degrees of gun depression reminds me too much of my stock Stürer Emil woes...
dense magnet
It kinda makes me think of the JP II in terms of the way it plays. Just occasionally immensely inaccurate
hollow belfry
The Jagdpanther II is faster and more armored, although it’s gun depression makes it feel far less flexible.
haughty forge
It is hulldown monster
hollow belfry
Indeed it is, once you get it in the right spot it’s pretty though to be dealt with for the reds
solid gate
Should I grind up the french light tree? 🤔
orchid nymph
how do i play the tiger p
im at 86% crew right now and the frickin thing goes slower than a wheelchair kid and the cupola just makes the armor useless
fleet wolf
Kids in wheelchairs can actually go real fast tho you ever seen anyone in a wheelchair they have places to be they zoom
hollow belfry
The Henschel version became the better Tiger at T7 since the buff though
solid gate
nocturne tiger
Which one of these should I go for?
meager sierra
Go for all of them, they’re all really good
nocturne tiger
okay
solid gate
Wz 113 td version
elfin marten
Depends a @nocturne tiger I feeling like bdr is a seal clubbing tank now so go for it first then tds then lights... the bdr has a very odd armor profile. Literally a French T1 but way better cause it has troll armor. Since the armor buff in update 7.0, it has been the go to seal clubber.
nocturne tiger
Okay thanks for the suggestion
elfin marten
Your welcome. just be careful of tier 6s, especially the LTs and HTs. They can easily pen the front
haughty forge
Guaranteed ammo rekt if i shoot with jageroo?
plucky summit
No, it's never guaranteed, but once it gets there, there's a 33% chance I believe
haughty forge
What does this mean
plucky summit
Oh, well, I guess those are the chances then
keen escarp
°_°
wise moth
@haughty forge Those are your odds of damaging the ammo rack or blowing it up with a given number of shots
haughty forge
Thx
restive ravine
Someone got the WZ-111 ? It's a IS 3 na ?
lyric oriole
It's a bad IS-3 I guess, IS-3 has a place, WZ-111 is just bad, it basically has no armor
keen escarp
yep
restive ravine
Ok thx
feral zephyr
Best frontline TD?
vocal sentinel
I feel like the IS-3 could use a bit more frontal hull armour
gentle wasp
@feral zephyr e3
@vocal sentinel no, it’s a heavium
solid gate
does anybody know what the 34 in t-34 means?
feral zephyr
thaks
vocal sentinel
Yes
solid gate
what it mean
gentle wasp
Chosen because of the year when the engineer first began thinking about such a design
gentle wasp
Np
gentle wasp
E 50 M is slightly less bad now
STB is miles better
feral zephyr
Also @gentle wasp do you get paid to do this or is it just a passion of yours?
gentle wasp
@feral zephyr I wish I got paid to no life and talk about tanks all day.
feral zephyr
But that's okay!
solid gate
what does the t mean?
feral zephyr
"Type" i think
solid gate
oh tanks
feral zephyr
Ok now to finish my homework lol Actually im done so i can just chill here
gentle wasp
I’m guessing trotsky but not sure
feral zephyr
nevermind we were both wrong
https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-T-stand-for-in-T-90-T-54-55-T-72-and-so-on
gentle wasp
Leon Trotsky, Russian revolutionary 1918-1925
feral zephyr
Possibly that too
Unrelated to vehicles but i wanna see Droodles 1v1 HisRoyalFatness
solid gate
so the T just means tank?
feral zephyr
I guess, huh?
solid gate
@gentle wasp ehhh no not really that’s only for some vehicles mainly the numbers indicate model and role
feral zephyr
is the quora correct?
gentle wasp
Yea the T-34 is one of those vehicles @solid gate
feral zephyr
Listen up yall, trust the semi-mod @gentle wasp . They probably have more tank knowledge than all of us lol
Also I wonder what droodles is doing here if he isnt talking or in any chats
gentle wasp
Lol I’m not sure about the T designation tho
solid gate
AFAIK that wouldn’t really make sense considering the T-34 literally debuted around the early 40s
feral zephyr
Mr Droodles hi love ur vids
gentle wasp
@solid gate not when the tank was implemented, but when he first thought about it
solid gate
(And A-20 is a thing aswell
feral zephyr
and here we see an epic battle of wisdom between 2 legendary tankmeisters
gentle wasp
A-20 is the prototype, what does that have to do with the ultimate naming of his tank
solid gate
But still that really wouldn’t make sense to designate a vehicle after the year it was first ever conceived many years until its built and entered service
feral zephyr
who will prevail?
solid gate
I don’t know what the T stands for
gentle wasp
Idk what to tell you, can’t really ask Mikhail Koshkin about it
feral zephyr
"The T-34 received the index not from the army officials, but from the manufacturing plant project number. The original prototype had the plant index A-32, but at the last moment it was upgunned to a 76mm cannon, so the index was changed to A-34. So this was changed to T-34, when the army adopted the vehicle."-Some russian dude on quora
gentle wasp
I did see that first quora article but I’m not sure that’s trustworthy.
solid gate
I asked a question rn from where I get my stuff I should get an answer back later
feral zephyr
"Koshkin chose the name after the year 1934, when he began to formulate his ideas about the new tank, and to commemorate that year's decree expanding the armoured force and appointing Sergo Ordzhonikidze to head tank production."-Wikipedia and another site
gentle wasp
Ping me when you get the answer. This interests me.
@feral zephyr that’s where I got it from too, it is Wikipedia but there is a book cited.
feral zephyr
hmmmmmmmm seems legit tho so i think it works
so T stands for tank and 34 is the year of creation/original planning ez
solid gate
@gentle wasp I’ve been told it was by the factory index but they will double check tomorrow
fervent sand
Fascinating... so why did America start a T line is the next question
solid gate
Iirc the M designation stands for model with XM standing for experimental model T might have been “Test” or “Tank”
fervent sand
Or Type^
solid gate
America didn’t use type afaik
gentle wasp
Yea it makes for sense for it to mean “test”
solid gate
Yeah the FAL before it got duped by the M14 was designated T24 rifle in testing
what does m stand for then
i see
Model
blazing cobalt
Model 14?
solid gate
The M is for model the numbers should be for both model number and role
blazing cobalt
k
rustic gate
Wz-111 worth buying?
fervent sand
From what heard no ( @rustic gate )
rustic gate
Ok, thanks :)
vocal sentinel
The IS-3s sides are stronger than it's front
solid gate
...
lyric oriole
He isn't wrong in terms of the hull
graceful rock
Why is su-101 so bad?
tulip sail
Lack of gd but personally I still like it
thick trout
Not bad, just awkward to play. Superb gun and very nice speed but the lack of depression, hp and armour make it very difficult to play. The speed gets you into situations you shouldnt be in but once you get used to it then it becomes a beast
Just looked at my 46% in the last 30 days with it with 4k WN8 and ranked 2nd lmao it definitely isn't a team carrier 😂
distant nymph
I wonder if the obj263 line can be changed to how they are on pc - slow firing assault guns with great frontal armor and terrible armor elsewhere. (Without adding the object 268 4 of course)
candid harbor
they are fine as it is, they have different playstyle, su 122 54 is gem in that line
lyric oriole
And then Obj. 263 is free damage
solid gate
It doesnt look that much different compared to lowe but can u see the difference on tiger II and E-75?
Its just an uparmored lowe with an 15cm gun
And much better lower plate
elfin marten
Go 45.03 is a panther and tiger 2 hybrid...
blazing cobalt
and its buffed @solid gate
gentle wasp
It doesn’t have the strengths of either
elfin marten
Only same gun as Löwe
gentle wasp
Similarly crappy platform
elfin marten
Löwe is a credit grinder though
gentle wasp
Doesn’t make it good
elfin marten
It’s a heavy tank not an mbt
gentle wasp
Uh yea I’m aware
plucky summit
Lowe good tank :p
gentle wasp
It’s mediocre
plucky summit
There's a lot of magic to it, many spots on maps that support the build of the Lowe, especially rubble, like on Himms
elfin marten
I played the Löwe on wot pc, it’s not bad...
plucky summit
And it has 120mm frontal xD
hollow notch
The lowe is quite good. Laser guns are always useful
plucky summit
It's not only a god-tier credit grinder, but it can play a great role in battle, even if it isn't frontline
orchid nymph
lowe is pretty good but super boring. i prefer the amx m4 49
plucky summit
Judging them by speed, the reload, and armor, the AMX would be better, but the dynamics of the Lowe are something special
delicate barn
The panther didn't meet to my expectations at all when I got it, and it's mostly because of the poor mobility, I don't even mind the stock gun that much but the fact that it can barely go 30-40 without the transmission really disappointed me, should I expect the same mobility for the rest of the line?
plucky summit
They only get slightly faster, BUT they get more and more armor the higher you go
delicate barn
I was hoping for a tank that had good mobility and armor at tier 9-10, is that the case?
plucky summit
Basically every medium except say, the Leo 1, present good mobility and decent armor
delicate barn
Will the panther get better mobility with the max tratransmissions bought?
plucky summit
It should
delicate barn
One last question, will the panther ll have the same mobility as the panther l?
hollow notch
About
storm apex
IS-3 question:
I just unlocked all 3 tiers of permanant upgrades
what combination should I use?
hollow notch
This works well for me
delicate barn
also will the e50 have better mobility than the panther ll?
storm apex
@hollow notch what should the last slot be? (the one on bottom right)
hollow notch
Probably the left one, but it does not really make much of a difference
storm apex
@storm apex @hollow notch thx.
i pinged myself so i can find this later 😛
next solstice
delicate barn
smasher is totally balanced
feral zephyr
What equipment should I run for my IS-6? Ping with answer please
rancid mauve
WZ-111 offer for 5k gold + 14 days of premium. Is it a good tank even? I already have a bunch of tier 8s including the 252U....
gentle wasp
@rancid mauve it’s very mediocre, you’re better off just getting an Is3. If you have a 252u there is no need to buy this thing.
rancid mauve
@gentle wasp thanks for the feedback! I was thinking the same thing, since I already have IS-5 and 252U.. no sense in getting more tier 8 prems
lyric oriole
@feral zephyr this is what I run, bit I use the DPM gun so you might want to change the gun equipment
orchid nymph
how is the dpm gun. is it hard fighting tier 9 heavies with only 220 HEAT pen
lyric oriole
*217 APCR
Eh, I don't have trouble because I'm familiar with the ins and outs but for a newer (less confident also) player I wouldn't advise it
orchid nymph
i know its 217 just round up. i have 11k battles in my belt i consider myself decent but does the playstyle change? you cant pen the lower plate of an e75 with pramo
lyric oriole
You can still pen the cupola, part of it is Crew skills though, having the accuracy skills of the medium tanks higher up makes it much easier to use.
I play it mostly as a medium bully, and a bit passive as a low tier
orchid nymph
hmm
plucky summit
E75 is like the only tank in tier nine that is like Tiger II in terms of armor, but stays that way only for the upper plate vs prammo, against tier 8s
gentle wasp
@rancid mauve exactly. The Wz will offer nothing new and will probably perform worse than either of those tanks. You’re better off just saving up for a better offer.
orchid nymph
but russian accuracy tho
lost tree
Russian like big boom but don’t like it to pen or hit often
French TD line worth grinding for Foch?
solid gate
@lost tree ok boomer
solid gate
@lost tree you are the one that said Russian like big boom look at your above message
solid gate
Kids these days...
lost tree
...? Completely random but ok
Y’all think I have good premiums? Don’t know if I spent my gold efficiently or not (Löwe, Tiger 131 and the D Max) (also have like 42 days of prem from bundles)
solid gate
But I still recommend not to spend gold as those tanks are only for free xp and showoff. They aren't much help certainly if you want to grind for tanks, and you need gold to exchange free xp
keen escarp
I have 138 days of prem
haughty forge
does anyone know if jageroo can pen stb turret with heat
analog verge
Maybe amx ac48 hp buff.100-200
solid gate
I was hoping for a tank that had good mobility and armor at tier 9-10, is that the case?
@delicate barn the E-85 is an lowe on steroids with 200mm of frontall armor and an more sloped lower plate, the turret armor is also increased to 252mm the sides are 130mm but the speed is 38km/h
The only weakspot on the armor is the middle plate that is just flat
tulip edge
@haughty forge cheeks and cupola.
haughty forge
wait what, it has cupola?
keen escarp
The little thing
tulip edge
Yes it has a cupola
haughty forge
😳
tulip edge
@haughty forge
haughty forge
barely noticeable and hard to hit
tulip edge
How hard it is to hit it depends on the player. If you keep the turret moving like how you’re supposed to, sure.
solid gate
Turret cheeks can be penned but is veyr small
thick trout
Personally I will go for the cheeks instead of the cupola because the cupola is more off centre and hidden more by gun depression do I find the cheeks easier to hit, but that's against a moving stb
tulip edge
Usually the cheeks are the best bet
sterile lark
worth?
tawny flame
nope
sterile lark
okay thanks. Whats the best gun for bulldog?
elder saddle
If you are a hit and run kind of player then the 3 shot autoloader. If you like heaping DPM onto them then choose the other one.
onyx notch
T28 Defender vs IS6 Defender; Which one?
lyric copper
neither imo
kindred wren
We have an IS-3 Defender and an IS-6 Fearless, but no IS-6 Defender
onyx notch
oof IS -3 my bad
thick trout
No IS6 defender yet ** 😏
onyx notch
might be the next one huh
lyric copper
who knows?
thick trout
Would probably be too similar to the IS3def so I doubt it, next one might be American or Brit heavy?
lyric copper
what about a German Def?
tulip edge
Ru251 defender
solid gate
Ru op
tulip edge
Tiger II defender..
solid gate
Obj 252 u defender...
onyx notch
A Leopard 1 would maybe fit the scheme
tulip edge
Well we have had a defender for the medium, heavy and tank destroyer classes.
I would love an RU251 defender, the ru is already my favourite tank
lyric copper
@onyx notch too high tier imo, also makes it a larger BC
onyx notch
I just feel they might go up to tier 10 with them
still a neither on T28 D vs IS-3 D??
lyric copper
could you count the Y5 tanks as defenders? They’re similar concepts, take a tech tree tank and make some mods?
tulip edge
I’d personally take the slower mobility of the T28 for the better clip reload and gun handling
onyx notch
those are my thoughts but IS-3D is played by so many more and I was curious as to why
lost tree
Doesn’t it give the is3 a 3 shot auto loader
plucky summit
Battle rigging?
worldly ether
Tournaments
tulip edge
@lost tree Both tanks have a 3 shot autoloader.
lost tree
Ohh
tulip edge
Mk 1 has a 4 shot autoloader I believe
wise spindle
I swear if WG adds obj 252u defender ima uninstall the game
lyric copper
May as well preemptively delete seeing as that could be a possibility
tulip edge
Well the defender tanks are all based off of existing tech tree tanks. Plus, the USSR already has a defender tank. I want to see a German one next
lyric copper
^
haughty forge
Mk1 defender is op
next solstice
Defender RU
hollow belfry
Mk1 def is a better Centurion 1, as the upcoming Mk 5 will be
plucky summit
Ooh yes a Lowe Defender
balmy mesa
Should i grind the german TDs or the Soviet TDs?
lyric copper
do you fancy:
A: loads of armour, big gun, but low speed and no armour, alternatively, big gun and quite fast (except the St.Emil)
or B: troll armour and yolowagon
plucky summit
Or C: Not much armor, turretless death cannon, which breaks down the higher up the tiers you go
next solstice
German TDs:
A: slow, sturdy, Box tanks that can hit hard but often end up getting gold spammed.
B: sneaky paper tanks that have turrets and great camos (usually)but often end up getting HE spammed
Russian TDs:
A: It's a td. It has a little bit of everything. Yeah.
B: Rush in, spam some dpm, rush out, scream about your 4 degrees of gun depression
fast compass
Ngl sounds pretty accurate
kindred wren
Remarkably accurate
wise moth
@sterile lark Single shooter gun. The single shot reload isn't much longer than the autoloader's interclip, and you also have way more DPM, pen, and accuracy
keen escarp
Guys i am so happy
I am at P44 Pantera Stock and i finally got a autoloader
Its not the autoloader gun or turret
haughty forge
@next solstice disagree that grille has good camo xd
next solstice
Fixed
haughty forge
can u make it more clear by saying tier 10 has worst camo
bitter raven
WG please create a Smasher 2, with 800mm cannon 0.1 sec reload, 0.1 aim time, 70kmh top speed, 60 track speed, 3000 engine power, 10000mm in frontal armor, 700mm pen, 700 tons, and give 6kk credits for 1 battle
arctic basalt
no
limber cedar
is 121b worth it?
gentle wasp
No. Mediocre medium in a meta where mediums struggle
kindred wren
I second that
limber cedar
imma get it anyways ;-;
unkempt matrix
why
limber cedar
its good looking its a tier ten for when noobs go back to tier one
its gun is better than 121 as martin dogger said
gentle wasp
No it’s not
plucky summit
noobs won't go back to tier one ._.
limber cedar
so he lied then?
plucky summit
The gun is not better, the DPM is basically the same, it just shoots faster, not harder
limber cedar
as i said he lied then?
viral lodge
I own the 121B, dont buy it, and its opinion based that they say that. YT are all just opinions
limber cedar
its like a tier ten t54 right? bc im boss at t54
plucky summit
Yes, when two guns have differing characteristics and one is better than the other only in certain fields, then there's no definite statement
viral lodge
Just go get the 62A or Obj 140
rocky atlas
Can confirm the crusader need ither armor buff or a stronger gun it feels like a straw shooting spitballs from a snow ball
limber cedar
i agree
plucky summit
@rocky atlas that's the point, it keeps fire on the enemy if they are exposed, allowing it to use its supreme DPM
rocky atlas
Low 90s on any thing it can pen witch isn’t much. An it’s not a threat at all if it’s Gun feels more like a slap on the wrist with a napkin
plucky summit
If the enemy stays exposed, the numbers start adding up, and you will reign by their mistakes
rocky atlas
That is if the enemy is back to you an looking through other way. That’s really the only time this thing can even pen or shoot an not get hit harder. An dpm dosnt matter if it’s just weak shots over an over an over
plucky summit
Well at least it's best in class for DPM
gentle wasp
Or just don’t play t5
plucky summit
Besides, why are you judging a light tank by its gun?
rocky atlas
Because it gets destroyed by other light tanks that are lower tier. An I’m playing it cause I’m starting a new tree
viral lodge
Or just don’t play t5
This
plucky summit
Everything could get destroyed by a lower tier, it's not a Matilda
limber cedar
anybody want my yt? i need to grow after i got termed
rocky atlas
Y5 is fun to play because it’s pretty much the same just little faster an oh yea it has a gun on itlol.
plucky summit
200 less DPM, less penetration 2
@limber cedar I don't think they allow that, so remove it to be safe ._.
limber cedar
k its in my status
grand linden
i got warned for having a gulag pfp so thats definitely a nono
limber cedar
lol
plucky summit
Crusader is a great tank at bullying heavies when it gets around them, always pick your fights alone in the crusader so you can rip your enemies apart with your good DPM, you are outclassed by TDs in DPM of course but you're the 3rd best by lights, meds, and heavies
limber cedar
yes
grand linden
just play nightmare probably the most fun tier 5
plucky summit
@grand linden if they can account for shell velocity and track absorption :p
grand linden
shell velocity isnt that big of a deal for me cause i frontline in it lol your armor is strong enough to let you get away with that at tier 5
plucky summit
Oof, also they might not have it and are grinding the Crusader line
rocky atlas
Yea I’m shooting for from well but this crusader is a nightmare on its own slow no armor weak at best gun It bearly compares with other light tanks
plucky summit
Funny you say that, it performs better than the Leopard
grand linden
the leo has been nerfed to the ground
solid gate
Which tank is better, the Obj 140 or the T62A?
gentle wasp
62a
thick trout
T62 for sure, much better turret and better depression as well
shadow vortex
Is the tiger 2 any good?
delicate barn
Should I go for the grille 15 or the T30? I already have the isu-152 but im looking for a turreted tank destroyer that can go in front of the enemy. Also the line would preferably be fun and easy to bring on.
gentle wasp
@delicate barn grille line is better but t30 is a much better tank and more fun.
@shadow vortex very good, nice gun on a decently mobile and armored platform
delicate barn
alright, thanks for the advice
shadow vortex
thanks
gentle wasp
Np
plucky summit
They say the T-22 took the side traits of the IS-7, but they didn't mention it would go allllll the wayyyyy xD
thick trout
It actually takes it further, the bottom half of the IS7 is flat but the T22s is sloped at a large angle all the way down, the black hole spot is weaker but still works as a black hole and the rest is stronger
plucky summit
@thick trout define black hole spot
thick trout
The spaced section with heavily angled armour underneath that appears great to everything
plucky summit
Ah, so just the spaced armor
thick trout
IS7 has 5/100 and T22 has 3/80 at roughly the same angle
Yeah
plucky summit
Side is at an auto-bounce angle for AP/APCR, that's an ouchie
The one slit above the spaced armor is the only weakspot then o-o
Not to mention arguably the most solid medium turret at tier X
thick trout
Yup when driving it you learn very quickly to never be head on
plucky summit
It seems like one of the most vulnerable tanks against normalization
thick trout
If you keep a small bit of distance between you and the reds then circling is stupidly easy because they will shoot your side which happens to be stupidly angled because of the height difference
plucky summit
YOu can't get in the turret from the hull 😂
thick trout
Yeah frontally it's not amazing as well but as soon as you reverse sidescrape it's just laughable lol
Lmao there's one guy who just lives up there forever 😂
plucky summit
Those hatches better work
This is one of the reasons WG won't allow module info
Why 401mm underside turret smh
thick trout
I can tell you this is where the ammoracks are lol
plucky summit
Nice, also thinking about the side armor of a tank, if you shot the side from the front, it would be as thick as the tank's length, no?
thick trout
You mean like shooting the side end on?
plucky summit
Yeah
As long as you've hit the area within the side armor thickness from their side, but that doesn't happen in Blitz
thick trout
Yeah I think all the end pieces so to speak are covered by armour at a different angle that makes it actually vaguely realistic
plucky summit
If only the phones could handle processing real armor profiles in their nature, like not being able to shoot through the length of the entire tank, but hey, mobile games. They just say "this plate here is this thick, if the shell hits it, calculate only this plate, not the plate protruding into the tank from the side
thick trout
It would be brilliant to get a completely new armour/penetration mechanic that can treat HESH, APDS and HE splash as well as different armour profiles very realistically but I doubt that would ever come at all
Just wait for someone to tell me to try warthunder if I wasn't realism lmao
plucky summit
I could imagine this game integrating into WoT as a 7v7 mode in itself, just clicking on the gamemode tab and seeing "Blitz 7v7" would seem so real
My computer is beefy, but it can't run WT very well in terms of FPS
thick trout
It would be awesome to see pc and blitz integrate but I think there's just too many differences between them for it to work. I tried playing warthunder a couple of times (BSODd one ancient PC because of it 😂) but I never really liked it, plus I've invested too much in blitz to look at anything else really lol
plucky summit
Same, I only divert from Blitz to play games my friends have
glossy zodiac
Wht tank has single shotmkills
plucky summit
KV-2 is the most likely, given very effective HE and the caliber to tier ratio
glossy zodiac
Okaymthank you
thick trout
Imagine having friends irl not just friends on blitz 😂
plucky summit
Well friends via Discord that I met because they're my cousin's friends
karmic nymph
I heard that they slightly change the armor profile a while ago
plucky summit
For what? T-22 did get a little change to its armor profile, just like, general skinnying
hollow schooner
They made the t22 larger, apparently
plucky summit
Oh
karmic nymph
I heard it made the sides slightly weaker, the way it was changed
My friend today got an 8k 7 kill game in his t22
plucky summit
Lol, I mean if it's thicker than 50mm then there's not much enemy tanks can do on an auto-bounce, unless they load HEAT
latent sigil
lyric oriole
What about it?
latent sigil
not sure if I could post this here or not but it's just my opinion, this flashing upgrade icon is kinda annoying ngl and should be removed ...
plucky summit
research me.
lyric oriole
Become long boi
plucky summit
Panther I cries*
blazing cobalt
maybe the wehraboos want a longer gun
vagrant crane
Like what?
not sure if I could post this here or not but it's just my opinion, this flashing upgrade icon is kinda annoying ngl and should be removed ...
@latent sigil yeah I think the same, as I usually research the gun or turret first but have to do the tracks and motor first always -_-
feral zephyr
What is the best frontline TD Obj 263 Obj 268 or E3
latent sigil
it's annoying well cuz I already have the top modules but now WG is saying hey look, you still need to upgrade your modules
feral zephyr
Thought it was 263 but not sure anymore
gentle wasp
E3 by far
feral zephyr
Okay thanks. Still rushing 268 because I’m so far. After that is the French light and then the E3
latent sigil
What is the best frontline TD Obj 263 Obj 268 or E3
@feral zephyr 263 and e3, foch could frontline too
feral zephyr
Thanks you
lost tree
268 worth the grind?
kindred wren
I would recommend the E3 for frontlining, but the 263 and the 268 for rushing
lost tree
Is the 268 worth the grind tho I just got the ISU152
kindred wren
It is a very solid tank, and that in all categories
lost tree
People say the 263 is a pub stomper tho
kindred wren
Nothing amazing but perfectly fine. If you can do with assault tds you will enjoy it
lost tree
I play ridiculously aggressive with the su152 and I enjoyed it so
Getting on average like 2-4K dmg a game
kindred wren
The 263 works very well until your opponents aim well and load gold for your mantlet. Sometimes you still get lucky bounces but your effectiveness decreases with the skill of the enemy player
lost tree
ah so it’s more like skill requiring
latent sigil
263 has the nickname yolowagon for a reason
solid rain
Hmmmmmm I’m at the Pz. IV D should I get the leapord or a different tank I grinded up to 400k money so I’m not sure
kindred wren
@solid rain You can take either tanks, i can recommend both the E100 line (that would be the Pz IV G) and the E 50 M line (over the Leopard, which also leads to the E100 if you go from the Panther to the Tiger II).
If you want more fast gameplay you should take the Leopard and if you want more slow but heavily armoured gameplay you should go over the Pz IV G.
solid rain
Ok! Thanks!
hollow notch
Something to consider is the leopard line is significantly harder to play and requires more game experience @solid rain
solid rain
Hmmmmmm ok
kindred wren
@hollow notch The Leopard line also includes the E 50 M line which is not exactly hard to play (unless you refer to the Leopard 1)
kindred wren
If you are not in a hurry to get to tier ten you can grind all of them at once
Though you might have to sell your tank after researching the following in the line in order to fund it
thorn glacier
Facts
plucky summit
If you get the Lowe problems solved :)
orchid nymph
Has it really been 2 years?
storm apex
it was released 2018 so yes
time flies but the scavenger doesn't.
orchid nymph
Dang. So the drac and helping came out like 5 years ago
storm apex
what do u mean helping. Helsing?
WG helping itself to ur wallet happened the day it launched 😉
storm robin
How does one use the Churchill 1? I have mine fully upgraded thanks to free xp, but I’m definitely not as durable (I can’t block as many shots) as, say, a KV-1 or T1 Heavy
storm apex
"ur not durable" u or the tank
also ur tank doesn't lose durability
minecraft !
storm robin
The tank, of course...
storm robin
Hmmm... but doesn’t the Churchill have better frontal armour than most? IIRC it doesn’t exactly have the greatest side armour, which doesn’t lend well to side scraping
storm apex
u see i use russian derp guns so it doesn't rly matter for me
orchid nymph
Churchi has no armor
storm apex
makes sense. however i can sometimes bounce shots off my SU-100
LOL idek how that happens
orchid nymph
Su100 actually has decent armor
storm apex
excuse me
u can pen the thing with a knife
orchid nymph
If you angle it right
storm apex
https://blitzhangar.com/en/tank/su-100
scroll down.
the gun mantlet is pretty troll tho
storm robin
So for the Churchill 1... sidescrape and stay on the front line with the other heavies?
karmic nymph
Churchill is great at sidescraping, I’ve had great games sidescraping. Remember it’s tier 5 so the guys on red won’t be that good anyways. Also you have great penetration. But yeah just sidescrape, your turret is weak
orchid nymph
So is the tank
hollow moth
Yes, it's a tank
molten summit
When should we expect the new Swedish tanks to drop?
solid gate
I miss the T82
hollow moth
7.3 or 7.4 @molten summit
You can get it back making a Premium Vehicle Restoration ticket @solid gate
solid gate
I meant the 105 on the t82
hollow moth
It's a ticket. (tickets are a way to have a contact to moderators of the game, you can repost in-game abuses, bugs, hacks, appeal bans, etc).
With Premium Vehicle Restoration ticket you can get back back premium tanks that you sold (premium tanks restoration cost their sell price + 10% of the value, meanwhile collector tanks cost exactly their sell price)
@molten summit
molten summit
Ah I see
storm robin
Hmmmm.. if I already have the Nightmare and I’m using HE with it, is there still a point getting the Tier V StuG?
rotund palm
There's still a point of getting Tier V StuG And that's for getting Grille or Jg Pz E100 and if you have both then no point
next solstice
The Stug V allows you to progress to higher tier monsters
keen escarp
I got P 44 pantera its stock with lengendary skin lol
nocturne tiger
I got AMX ELC bis, what do I research first?
storm robin
I guess either engine or gun
rotund palm
Gun then engine
nocturne tiger
okay
dim merlin
hello i wanna ask which one is better the ferdinand or jagpanther 2
haughty forge
jp 2
storm robin
Should I go for the Pz IV G or the StuG next? I already have a fully upgraded Churchill 1 and Nightmare, fyi
rapid orchid
hollow belfry
The StuG is pretty good, a modified Panzer III chassis (explains why it’s so agile) with ok armor and a very good gun (best in class accuracy if I remember right).
They both lead to very good tanks, which are worth grinding for.
storm robin
How does the BDR G1 B compare to the Churchill 1?
hollow belfry
It’s way better.
The gun is overall not as good (better alpha but worse pen, accuracy and dpm). The mobility and frontal armor however are a lot better.
haughty forge
bdr has 135mm iirc and prammo is really good
hollow belfry
Forgot to mention it has eight degrees of gun depression compared to the Churchill’s painful 4°.
solid gate
Bdr is good french enginering
Churchill is, well, its a tank
hollow belfry
The BDR and T1 heavy are just absolute sealclubbing machines.
solid gate
Just like tier V leo used to be
hollow belfry
Half of the tier 6 tanks struggle to pen them reliably from the front, now think about the fact these two also face tier 4 tanks.
solid gate
And if youre lucky you can even face tier 3 tanks (or at least could)
hollow belfry
solid gate
Almost 10% more general winrate, lame
hollow belfry
Ridiculous fact: the T1 heavy got buffed twice even when everyone was already rating it as overcooked after it’s first buff.
The Matilda saw it’s alpha buffed from 50 to 80 and now will see an armor buff in the future. I laugh hard when thinking back about the fact update 5.5 was to « stop sealclubbing ».
solid gate
T1 is funny, cause KV-1 used to be superior in all aspects and then the T1 blew like Venezuela's inflation
hollow belfry
Regularly seeing pre-5.5 tanks in the shop for cash or ~2k gold gives you the real meaning of 5.5 tbh.
solid gate
I miss my DW2 so much 🙁
hollow belfry
It should come back in the battle pass I believe.
solid gate
Hopefully
hollow belfry
« Remove a tank from the tech tree, sell it for cash and it makes easy money » -supposedly WG
solid gate
But wait, theres more, after experimenting on blitz fools, wE wiLl dO tHe sAmE tO pC vErs
hollow belfry
PC version gets an improved 5.5-ish update
We got the prototype under the cover of « stopping sealclubbing » which was debatable.
kindred wren
The KV-1 is kind of bad now because they nerfed it quite heavily
If they didn’t it would be competitive against the other broken tanks
untold zenith
strv is terrible
hollow belfry
I found it ok. Fairly trollish turret and stupid gun depression. Sticking to ridges all went good.
kindred wren
I had flashbacks to playing the Sturer Emil with that thing
inland osprey
mm
storm robin
The problem with the BDR G1 B is that I’ll have to struggle through the Char B1, which was a process that sucked enough even with the Matilda to get the Churchill 1
haughty forge
@storm robin wdym char b1 and matilda is op
storm robin
Since when was the B1 ever OP? Granted, my experiences with it were when I was in the Panzer IV D and Matilda, which both screw it over in different ways, but honestly it never seemed like a good tank to me...
haughty forge
if u dont know ur front armor is too op
Lol , i ammo racked 1400 hp is4 in jageroo , my second ammorack in this tank , first was couple battles before and it was full hp IS7 LOL, Russians have weak ammorack doe
storm robin
if u dont know ur front armor is too op
I have perforated it one too many times with a 2-pounder, it’s not OP in the slightest
kindred wren
When Wargaming decided to make heavies their wife they buffed it by literally nerfing the pen of all guns in the lower tiers. They also recently buffed its damage (like for the Matilda, too) and now it’s actually fairly well armoured, especially when you sidescrape
storm robin
Ah, okay... so it handles like my good ol’ Mattie! Good to know 😄
kindred wren
Don’t show your front though if you can help it
Your turret is annoying to pen so that one is a good place to start when using your armour
haughty forge
@kindred wren wut do u think abt jageroo 🧐
kindred wren
Potentially the best gun in the game paired with good armour. It’s just very hard to give the gun targets sometimes, but you will most likely outtrade everyone (unless you fail to pen)
The armour only really makes sense when you sidescrape, when hulldown you best drive up the high beyond your gundepression to increase the effective armour (don’t expose your lower plate though) and you should wiggle at least a bit to make cupola shots near impossible
haughty forge
@kindred wren CS or ramme
kindred wren
Your pen is already really high, but since you are a derp tank reload doesn’t matter that much so it’s basically down to whether you like shooting HE a lot or not
If you like shooting HE you should get the calibrated shells, if you prefer to stick to AP definitely the rammer, if you use HEAT a lot because you like picking fights against too well armoured targets also pick the calibrated shells
solid gate
Please make Punisher theme tank and Judge Dredd or skull gamo with black background and white skulls.
This isn’t a marvel or dc comics sponsored game
feral zephyr
Grille 15 vs E3 who wins
haughty forge
Depends on map and player
feral zephyr
true
thick trout
Grille is much more fun to play, E3 will perform better in almost all players hands
fervent peak
Guys I'm very lucky got it from the second create
onyx venture
Epic
sharp siren
...
solid gate
T62 is still goatted
plucky summit
At least T-62A has a better gun and p/w
Mainly because the terrain resistance for T-22 is much worse than 62A
hallow ether
#vehicles-discussion What should my next tier 10 be? I’ve researched these: T110E4, M48 Patton & T57 Heavy. Which one?
@fervent peak wow! I spent 20k gold and didn’t get it. I got free Xperia’s out the ying yang now, so I got that going for me.
haughty forge
@hallow ether ur choice
pliant lodge
@fervent peak please delete it so we can prevent more tanks from crates :D
onyx venture
The E4 is a hard tank to play imo, but I like it, the lack of gun depression is kind of off putting
kindred wren
@hallow ether So, which one of these do you like? An easy branch to complete would be the T110E3 since you can jump from the T28 Proto to the T28 and already have most modules researched. You might generally find that a good number of modules in the other US-American branches are already researched since you ground three US-American lines
solid gate
@hallow ether I’d recommend the E3 line, it’s a really strong tank and since you have the E4 you already have all the guns and some engines
onyx venture
I actually like the T28 proto
pliant lodge
The T28 Proto has a good DPM
hallow ether
@hallow ether I’d recommend the E3 line, it’s a really strong tank and since you have the E4 you already have all the guns and some engines
@solid gate so E3>E4?
haughty forge
Yes
thick trout
Yeah E3 is much much better than the E4
hallow ether
@hallow ether So, which one of these do you like? An easy branch to complete would be the T110E3 since you can jump from the T28 Proto to the T28 and already have most modules researched. You might generally find that a good number of modules in the other US-American branches are already researched since you ground three US-American lines
@kindred wren of the tier 9’s the T30 is my favorite.
kindred wren
The T30 is fairly unique, but you can have a down-gunned version with the T29 - T110E5 line, or, if you like the caliber, you could try the turretless Soviet tds leading up to the Obj 268, however their armour is less reliable (basically most of your armour will be your mantlet or awkward angles)
solid gate
help me pls
onyx venture
He's been kidnapped by Somali pirates
undone yew
Guys i need help on the IS, not my cup of tea how do i play it
fervent sand
Play it just like a KV-1S
opaque sparrow
karmic nymph
Sidescrape in the is
orchid nymph
how can i look at the stats of the pre-nerf vk28.01? I heard you can on blitzhangar but i dont know how
plucky summit
I doubt you can since it was long ago
@orchid nymph which update do you believe this happened?
orchid nymph
somewhere right after 3.hate
plucky summit
Yeah that's way too long ago, you can only see back to update 6.7
orchid nymph
ooh that sucks
orchid nymph
nvm i see it now
gentle wasp
You can see patch notes all the way back to 4.10 on blitzhangar, and a little farther back on wotblitz.com. I don’t think there is a tool for seeing exactly what tank characteristics looked like for certain updates though. @orchid nymph
plucky summit
:O
orchid nymph
plucky summit
I must find this
broken sentinel
Remember when people blamed Bushka for that nerf? That was so dumb
plucky summit
Yet here we are not budging for Droodles
broken sentinel
Wdym
plucky summit
Droodles is recommending changes but nothin happens
broken sentinel
I mean a lot of his proposals are a but overboard
grand linden
yes nerf all russian heavy tanks to have 175mm pen
plucky summit
Oh god the T-54 ltwt. syndrome
broken sentinel
Like straight up removing weakspots on some tanks (Chieftain/T95 and VK168)
grand linden
the chief without the hatch is gonna be so strong
broken sentinel
It would be broken. Sure maybe reduce the size but don't just remove it
plucky summit
Idk why people hate VK 168, It's simply a premium VK 100 with the other side advantage with a sidescrape, ofc it's not worth buying if you don't use it as a Vk 100 credit grinder
grand linden
the hatch is already small enough as long as you dont sit still youre gonna be fine
plucky summit
Bro the worst tank I've had experiences with by annoying cupola wiggles is the Chieftain Mk. 6, every dang one of them always dance when hulldown and it's so annoying to pen xD
broken sentinel
@plucky summit the cupola, machine gun port, and lower plate make the frontal armor extremely hard to use
grand linden
the turret cheeks my guy who in the world be aiming at a machine gun port
plucky summit
VK 100 presents similar weaknesses, and the MG port could be used to bait shots into the upper plate
broken sentinel
Just remove the machine gun port, make the cupola smaller.
grand linden
just make the turret cheeks stronger and all will be fine
plucky summit
Oh dang the cupola is pretty small compared to 100 o-o
broken sentinel
True, just remove the machine gun port then
Then it truly would just be a prem vk
gentle wasp
The 168 is not better at sidescraping, front mounted turret that is a much bigger target
plucky summit
Painfully good sidescrape
Wiggle the turret around a bit and you'll be dandy, not hard to shoot back as well
broken sentinel
The other side is garbage
gentle wasp
Defensive sidescrape maybe but if you’re trying to actually do some damage it’s pretty useless.
plucky summit
Yeah but the side I present is better than VK 100's perhaps
THe cupola is very difficult to protect defensively on VK 100 on the same side
gentle wasp
Then sidescrape on the non-copula side
plucky summit
And if they don't load prammo you can just fire during the sidescrape
So each tank specializes on each side
broken sentinel
It's not better, it's just on the other side
plucky summit
If the offending tank can pen the cheeks, at east 168 won't be very susceptible on the turret mechanism like VK 100
Both tanks present a rather forgiving angle to sidescrape with
broken sentinel
Yeah, but that doesn't mean the 168 is straight up worse
plucky summit
Also a negligible but funny thing is VK 100 has 0mm weakspots on its cupola
I say they're equal on a map like Himmels, since each have their own side without weakspots against each other and the sides which both do present weakspots
VK 168 actually has better aim time, and a bit worse dispersion and p/w, + camo. In general it perform better likely due to a much lower playerbase on it recently, but I would take 168 if I'm not trying to grind 100's line
They have the same gun and shells, as well as their stats, though VK 100 has an extra / in the gun name, odd...
storm apex
when my ammorack gets damaged in the SU-100 my reload speed goes to 20 seconds
pretty much ends my game there.
and the ammorack is at the very front of the tank too. wtf