#vehicles-discussion

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ivory glacier
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And armour bounces everything from meds and lights

tulip edge
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@wise moth you actually bounce things now, its much more enjoyable to play.

thick trout
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With its decent depression it's very bouncy against tier 10s as well. It's way too easy to play now, before it was already a great tank but it required thought. The sad thing is I think the gun will probably get a nerf instead of the armour being changed back to what it was

solid gate
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Small health boost to Jackson most things a tier above it can 2 or 1 shot it

tulip sail
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The same goes for most lighter armored tanks at t6

solid gate
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or best for kv 2

tulip edge
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@solid gate using the tier 7 gun is forbidden

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Everyone who uses a kv2 uses the derp tier 6 gun because it has the ability to one shot tanks, but has terrible gun handling and a long reload

solid gate
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@@tulip edge ty

pastel anvil
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Has anyone paid attention to this tank

low elk
hardy sparrow
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@solid gate Chinese TDs are amazing dont listen to those Americans, T9 has 413mm of HEAT pen and great armour,you dont like accuracy of the T8 or the sneaky playstyle of the T6 and T7?

T10 is disappointing simply because of the false sense of armour it has

toxic plank
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I like the grille 15.

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But i prefer france tanks

rigid crystal
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Which tank will the British light line branch out from?

tulip edge
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I believe the comet @rigid crystal

rigid crystal
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Alright

strange thicket
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which gun should I use for my new kv 2?
@solid gate use the 107mm

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it is the best for the tank and is decent
the 152mm has trash handling and is over all trash
you would need to get personal to actually hit stuff or have rng on your side

vital maple
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@wise moth imo, the jagdtiger didn't need the buff, the tortise needed it. i was running the jagdtiger at 76% before the buff, it was already really good

glass crypt
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if you're asking which gun to use on the kv2, you need to first ask yourself "why did i buy it in the first place?" the answer is the 152mm

strange thicket
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if you're asking which gun to use on the kv2, you need to first ask yourself "why did i buy it in the first place?" the answer is the 152mm
@glass crypt nope

glass crypt
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with all due respect you're a wierdo if you thought otherwise 🦐

strange thicket
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lmfao
the 107mm is still far better than the 152
the 152 is if you want to have some fun and don't mind doing zero or below average damage occasionally

glass crypt
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fr tho the 107 doesn't have much pen, and doesn't scare off ur enemies, thats nice and all against meds but ur mostly fighting heavies

strange thicket
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107 is pretty decent mate
and the reload time is not bad
and makes the tank have actually decent dpm
if you are playing with 152mm all i have to do is simply not get close to you and the job is done
your shell is slow and most likely wont even hit
the time you will take to aim i will have got my shot and hid myself
it is pure RNG based
i prefer the KV-1S anyway
the only reason i got the KV-2 in my garage is becuase i wanted to have some fun after i almost got to IS-3

solid gate
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The 107mm is literally the better choice the 152mm is a slot machine crutch

warm pivot
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Why are we talking about the 2 guns of the KV-2 when we could say the 90mm on the T49 is good

agile pendant
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But i prefer france tanks
@toxic plank Eyy rejoicing as someone enjoying driving his AMX 50 120

toxic plank
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I prefer the foch .50 honestly

agile pendant
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I prefer the foch .50 honestly
@toxic plank That's quite fine, just rejoicing over another person that prefers even just part of the french line

toxic plank
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Oh, sorry for being rud

stoic grail
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Leo 1 needs 440 HE alpha

viral lodge
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Doesn’t Leo 1 already have good DPM with their primary round?

hollow notch
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The HE on most of the tier 10 105s is pure garbage. (4202 is the exception)

hollow notch
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Can it still drown in an inch of water?

karmic nymph
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For the t62a does enhanced armor make any difference in regards to the turret. Is it worth using over improved assembly?

wise moth
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@karmic nymph Not really. Gold will still butter the cheeks, and standard shells aren't going through anyway

karmic nymph
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Alright thx

solid gate
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So vickers light is getting 290 heat pen ouch

zealous anchor
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Worst than batchat? Ouch

solid gate
ionic basin
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thats exactly like a grille 15

kindred wren
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Oh no, and there goes the free advertisement of crates

sweet tree
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@woven ravine Nice

radiant coral
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You gotta be kidding me...

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Anyways, which one, Panther 8,8 or leKpz M 41 ?

thick trout
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M41 every time the 8.8 is pretty worthless

radiant coral
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Well... nvm

agile pendant
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Which tanks do you guys enjoy driving that aren't particularly good/great/OP but usually gets you into your groove while driving it?

slow valley
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St. Emil for some reason

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that gun depression and the top gun make it really fun

agile pendant
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that gun depression and the top gun make it really fun
@slow valley did not expect that but I have heard of its amazing GD. glad you're enjoying it.

glacial leaf
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sheridan šŸ˜›

viral falcon
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Which tanks do you guys enjoy driving that aren't particularly good/great/OP but usually gets you into your groove while driving it?
@agile pendant STA-1 and Centurion I. The insane 210+mm penetration and fine gun depression and -handling makes for a surprisingly enjoyable playstyle.

crystal cedar
tulip edge
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@agile pendant churchill gun carrier. It has One of the best tier 6 guns, very easy to farm and people underestimate the gun because they rarely see the tank.
The chieftain t95 at tier 8 too. With the HP buff, its actually really strong as a medium support tank.

agile pendant
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You've got guts mate @viral falcon, not everyone takes those over the pick of the litter. Great to hear that them Cents and STAs getting some lovin'.

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@agile pendant churchill gun carrier. It has One of the best tier 6 guns, very easy to farm and people underestimate the gun because they rarely see the tank.
The chieftain t95 at tier 8 too. With the HP buff, its actually really strong as a medium support tank.
@tulip edge Man, I can only count in my fingers the amount of times I've seen a Churchill GC. Good on you for making it work!

I've seen videos of it - it really looks like a great second line tank for support. Kind of reminds me of the T95E6 for some reason.

tulip edge
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Yeah you can never frontline because its armour is poor and it has a tumour on the turret similar to what the T110E5 used to have. So its best to use your 40km/h speed, good gun and 1900 HP to roll through mediums, which I think is fine. Its basically how you play the mk6 too, and the fv215b to an extent

viral falcon
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Both definitely worth a try if you are experienced enough. The Cent is a damn great heavy brawler if it comes to face to face, also despite the low top speed it's brutally manouverable. The STA has a distinctive playstyle of between second and first line support, but being very careful with it. The gun packs a punch and 214 mm pen is more than enough. Also, despite being slow, very manouverable and has good terrain crossing capabilities. @agile pendant

subtle mason
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Why does the lekpz has so BAD camo?

viral falcon
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It's quite tall

tulip edge
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Its pretty wide and tall

gentle wasp
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It has better camo than the T49, which is a smiliar profile

agile pendant
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Both definitely worth a try if you are experienced enough. The Cent is a damn great heavy brawler if it comes to face to face, also despite the low top speed it's brutally manouverable. The STA has a distinctive playstyle of between second and first line support, but being very careful with it. The gun packs a punch and 214 mm pen is more than enough. Also, despite being slow, very manouverable and has good terrain crossing capabilities. @agile pendant
@viral falcon I've been only ever up to the Chi-Ri in this line as I'm currently trying to get the max engine on my AMX 50 120. Sounds great to hear experiences and tidbits of tips from both of you @tulip edge

subtle mason
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Chimera is much bigger but has a slightly worse camo.

viral falcon
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@viral falcon I've been only ever up to the Chi-Ri in this line as I'm currently trying to get the max engine on my AMX 50 120. Sounds great to hear experiences and tidbits of tips from both of you @tulip edge
@agile pendant You're welcome, mate, good luck on the 50 120!:) I loved that tank

subtle mason
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It has better camo than the T49, which is a smiliar profile
Nope, T49 has a better camo

tulip edge
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I got the stb1 a few hours ago and im in love with it

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Though for random battles, I still seem to prefer my fv4202 for enjoyment

viral falcon
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For me, the 4202 is what defines the most enjoyable medium. I jus't can't make the STB work that good.

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@tulip edge I'm glad to see another 4202 player!:)))

tulip edge
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Mate im all about the british tanks. I pretty much have every british tank in the game

viral falcon
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I'm so happy!! So do I have all of the brits! Even the GC, it's a great TD:D

tulip edge
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Well.. I used to. I have been too lazy to finish the fv4005 line, but I have done every other british line

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I still have my gun carrier lol. They actually buffed it a while back and its not even a bad tank anymore

viral falcon
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You should tho, the 4005 is love Ɣt first battle for me. It feels sooo great to clip out 1400 damage with 294 mm pen, then reload in 17.5 sec! :3 It's also mobile as hell

agile pendant
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Oh dang, you guys both have the 4202. I still don't have enough credits for it and I opted for the 50 120 instead of it or the Standard B. I'm actually thinking of grinding the heavy line for the Brits - only that - I'd love to get much more free EXP before getting the Conqueror šŸ˜„

tulip edge
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The heavy and td brits were the first lines i went down as a new player. This was in 2015 and honestly the british td line wasnt fhat bad to go through back then.

viral falcon
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Definitely do that. The caernarvon and conqueror will need the free xp for the guns. @agile pendant

tulip edge
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But yeah the fv4202 is a good tank for random battles but it can be expensive to run. I literally dont load any normal hesh in it, I just have apcr and premium hesh

viral falcon
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@tulip edge Neither is it now despite all the bad reputation gets. I have 1940 avg damage with the AT 15. I have grinded it last year and still my second favourite tier 8 TD after the WZ-111 1GF-T

tulip edge
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I havent played the AT tanks in a few years. Back then there werent so many premium tanks that just powercreeped the line

agile pendant
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Definitely do that. The caernarvon and conqueror will need the free xp for the guns. @agile pendant
@viral falcon I will. I mean even if the Conq hasn't got the best armor, if I could play the AMX 50 120 relatively well, I could probably make it work. Also I'd be given free passes on EXPs needed on engines since I've already researched the 4202 šŸ˜„ And yeah, I remember the days the T5 Crusader could go like the wind with its much more higher max speed unlike today.

viral falcon
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The 4202 was my first line. Since then it still is my favourite:D
Second favourite is 4005 and AMX 50B

tulip edge
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Some people just play the line wrong, you go from the black prince which is your more typical heavy, to pseudo-medium heavies at tier 8, 9 and 10. You have to really change your playstyle with the high tier heavies

viral falcon
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Yep, exactly. The caernarvon and Fv215b even has very good frontal armour if you can hide the lower plate.

tulip edge
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The fv215b is a very good medium bully. Countless times I have rushed mediums, and its fine because you get in their face, angle your frontal armour and its unlikely they can go through you. Then they cant circle you or escape, because of the traverse and the fact you reload around 1 second later than most mediums, but roll higher. Its very fun lol, but the mk6 does it so much better

agile pendant
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Hull down madness. I suddenly remember the days I've tried to adapt doing hull down on my T-54 on the other end of the spectrum. But yeah, to be frank, I think the Conqueror with its final turret is actually a looker to me. Loved it since the first time I watched a relatively well-known youtuber featured it on one of his vids.

From what I've been reading so far, both of you sound like you have a great deal of patience in playing the game. Good on you both.

subtle mason
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WG should at least boost the view range for LeKPZ. 290 with optics and 2 food slots is a joke.

gentle wasp
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@subtle mason T49 and Ltwt have the same. seems fine

viral falcon
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@agile pendant I just love to play forgotten lines, or tanks which earned bad reputation, and see if they are really bad or just the general impatience of the playerbase made them get the reputation. So far i only entitled two tanks really a letdown. First being the T28, altho I somehow have several aces and alright avg damage with it, and the AMX AC 48. Idk why, but the french 120 mm TD gun just... I couldn't stand it. Inaccurate, unreliable, and the fact that the Ac 48's armour was... Well, non-existent, despite the playstyle it was craving for.

subtle mason
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T49 is a mobile td, not a proper light tank. Everything T49 needs is just take a bush, shoot and run

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LTWT is much better concealed, has some armour

thick trout
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^ completely and utterly wrong

gentle wasp
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@subtle mason you playing the T49 like a td makes anything that comes out of your mouth completely irrelevant

thick trout
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T49 is literally the perfect light tank, if you are using bushes you are playing it completely wrong

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Unless you are trying to spot and ambush someone, but even then you should really be moving

subtle mason
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makes anything that comes out of your mouth completely irrelevant
So salty. How come? ATGM lover here?

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Yes, you are. Took a look at profile. How do you like 7.0 anyway?

gentle wasp
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@subtle mason I do not like ATGMs lol and that doesn't change the fact that you camp in T49

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Also you are wrong about the camo thing. LeKpf has better camo than T49 (just saw that now oops)

subtle mason
gentle wasp
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I just looked at blitzstars

agile pendant
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@agile pendant I just love to play forgotten lines, or tanks which earned bad reputation, and see if they are really bad or just the general impatience of the playerbase made them get the reputation. So far i only entitled two tanks really a letdown. First being the T28, altho I somehow have several aces and alright avg damage with it, and the AMX AC 48. Idk why, but the french 120 mm TD gun just... I couldn't stand it. Inaccurate, unreliable, and the fact that the Ac 48's armour was... Well, non-existent, despite the playstyle it was craving for.
@viral falcon Dang, I'll admit I won't probably last long in the T28. I guess we all have different alignments in tanks that we can sometimes easily vibe into or not. From your description sounds like Wargaming selling you a tank that's rigged despite all your efforts to adapt to it. Maybe it can work, someday.

I'm off to rest mate. Glad to hear from you guys @viral falcon @tulip edge. Cheers!

gentle wasp
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@subtle mason ok they have two different stats then

hollow notch
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I look at thos camo values and go:
Looks the same to me

gentle wasp
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no blitzhangar and blitzstars are showing different values

hollow notch
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The camo values on them are so close it make no difference-_-

viral lodge
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Close =/= same

hollow notch
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True, that does not change the fact that is makes no difference

wise moth
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Neither T49 nor Lekpz have great camo (by light tank standards at least)

stoic pebble
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Obj 252 U needs a nerf.

gentle wasp
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Nope.

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And please don't play the "Jageroo can't pen the front" card because that is old and extremely inaccurate

stoic pebble
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Nah, how is it correct when you shoot the side 3 times and bounce all of them?

gentle wasp
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Russian sideskirts. you are shooting the wrong place

hollow notch
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A lot of tanks need nerfs. All we get is the BUFF EVERYTHING response to try and balance things, resulting in massive powercreep.

steep ice
gentle wasp
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@steep ice LeKpf. Tech tree Panther II is very similar to 8.8, and the crates are a ripoff

tulip edge
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252u doesnt need a nerf. Use both your hands and aim appropriately at the side

autumn verge
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Pls codes to tank free

hollow belfry
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I got a code you can use to get free tanks. It’s called GRIND

lyric oriole
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Or you can watch ads

gentle wasp
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@hollow belfry XD

hollow belfry
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^ watch ads everyday and pray for a lucky drop in weekly crates, farm gold as much as you can

autumn verge
lyric oriole
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r/woooooosh

gentle wasp
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XD no way ladies and gentlemen @hollow belfry gotem

autumn verge
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Pls codes thanks free

stiff swift
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What is the most fun tier 10? With regards to strength (armour, speed, deep, etc) or whatever?

gentle wasp
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fun is an opinion, it is really up to you

lyric oriole
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Personally I find E 50 M to be a lot of fun

stiff swift
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That’s true, I just want to hear yours to help base my opinion

autumn verge
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@Mightyscrub#3260 mmm the truth I don't know but please if you know any active code for a free tanke can you tell me

gentle wasp
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@stiff swift I am enjoying the wz-121

stiff swift
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Code is tell wargaming your banking info. Almost always works

hollow belfry
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@gentle wasp good lord I laughed so hard

gentle wasp
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@hollow belfry genius. thanks for making my day

hollow belfry
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no problem xD

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I didn’t expect him to take it seriously but well. If you ask me the T10 I have the most fun in, then I’ll agree with MayoNasal that the E50 M is pretty fun to play

gentle wasp
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Me neither that's what killed me. I like t10 because it is balanced (for the most part) but I just suck in it lol

little pine
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Fk why E 75's side armour very trash

gentle wasp
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it isnt...

little pine
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Tier 8 tanks can hit me :D

gentle wasp
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if you poke out sideways then yes

hollow belfry
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120mm side armor is pretty good wdym. but yeah, driving it sideways won’t bounce a lot

steep ice
gentle wasp
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BP no LeKpf yes

stiff swift
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Worth it for what? To buy I agree with tiger BUT you need to be able to play lights. Don’t expect a good light to be op if you can’t play lights

hollow belfry
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^ if you can do well in a Ru you will do well in a Blackdog

low elk
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@steep ice why are you spending money with less than 20 games?

steep ice
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@low elk Just felt like buying tanks. Not going to go crazy but just did 2 purchases and that’s it. @stiff swift what does play lights mean?

low elk
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@steep ice PLEASE DO NOT play the lekpz
play lowtiers for now
you will not be able to do good in lekpz when no experince in the game
practice before playing it, so you doing legit start ruining games for other players

steep ice
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I’ve played wot pc @low elk

low elk
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wn8 on wotpc?

steep ice
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Also practice with low tiers? So I can get better with lekpz

low elk
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just stick to tier 1-6 for now
dont play tier 8

gentle wasp
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ok yea please do not skip right up to t8

steep ice
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So when do I?

gentle wasp
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when you are good in a tech tree t8 or two

low elk
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grind a normal tech tree to tier 9 before playing a prem tier 8

steep ice
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Jesus. That’s going to be awhile

gentle wasp
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it will be worth it

low elk
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its better than ruining games for other players

steep ice
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Well maybe not since I’m on 4 close to 5

hollow belfry
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getting to a tech tree t8 isn’t even that long tbh

steep ice
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Damn. Well I guess my purchase is worth once I get to tier 8?

low elk
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it takes less than 700 games to get to tier 8

steep ice
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Okay

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But the lepkz is good though right?

lyric oriole
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It's pretty good, one of the best tier 8 lights

gentle wasp
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yes but you won't play well in it right now. it does require a bit of skill

low elk
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lekpz isnt braindead to play
its great but still requires skill
and whats your world of tanks PC WN8?
if its above 1200 you should be able to do decent

lyric oriole
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Definitely take their advice, I would also recommend that you hold off on buying a tier 8 Premium before you get tier 9/10

hollow belfry
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Lights aren’t forgiving, especially considering the heavies/large-caliber guns spam at T7-8

steep ice
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Oh well too late for that. I already bought a Matilda and lepkz. I’ll take their advice though.

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Thanks everyone. I appreciate it. I mean I know you’re not saying I’m bad..but I should practice.

gentle wasp
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well try not to play it too much. if you keep it mothballed until you know what you are doing it will be that much more enjoyable when you do play it

lyric oriole
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Trust us, after version 5.5 tiers 1-5 don't emulate the same difficulty as tiers 6-10 anymore

tulip sail
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Yeah blitz is significantly different than pc however it's a good thing to start on one than transfer over

low elk
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usually WN8 from wotpc goes under a 1.5-2.5X into blitz if you originally started from WOTPC

steep ice
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So I’ll just use Matilda for now

tidal atlas
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That’s why I’m so bad at WotPC lol

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I started on WOTB and tried out WOTPC so for some reason I use my WOTB play style on WOTPC which affects my gameplay

low elk
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blitz WN8 goes a 0.3-0.6X WN8 transfer
so if you have 1k WN8 on blitz you have 300 on wotpc
if you have 3k wn8 on blitz its at 900-1800

tidal atlas
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And that’s why I suck

low elk
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PC takes much more brains compared to blitz
and its a hell of a lot less balanced for new players and f2ps

tidal atlas
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Low tier players will get evaporated by the large maps and fast reloading guns

low elk
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its not that
its the stock grind (and most of the grinds) are HORRIBLY painful

tidal atlas
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IKR and the games are heavily lopsided

low elk
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WG is trying to balance the game
they got a new lead

tidal atlas
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The whole game can be decided in 1 minute

low elk
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no
the whole game is decided by the light tanks
because they are so crucial to the game

tidal atlas
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True

lyric oriole
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In other platforms most light tanks are expendable but if you do have a Light tank around to the end it's matters significantly more

tidal atlas
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I’m stuck on the M4 because the grind is horrible

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It’s not even credits it’s hard even getting EXP

lyric oriole
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I might Recommend you go down a different line, that line is kinda not good. Unless you are pursuing Sheridan by chance

low elk
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esp in the EBR meta
lights are so strong
@tidal atlas why are you grinding american line
its horrible for new players atm
only the easy8 is the trainer for newer players
go the stupid heavy lines
aka russian heavyweight tanks

tidal atlas
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Idk why I always start American

lyric oriole
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German heavies to the E 100 are the easy street tanks right now

tidal atlas
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I’m A iDiOt

low elk
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go the russian IS7 line
after that go for the 277 line
those 2 are very good and strong

tidal atlas
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Okay

lyric oriole
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My vote is cast to the American Heavy Line (T110E5) and the E 100

low elk
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after that you can get the 62A without grinding it at all with the collector tank feature
so you have 2 russian heavies, and a med along with an EXTREMELY good tier 9 heavy tank
IS8/T10

tidal atlas
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Clearly WG doesn’t like America

low elk
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or just honk your clown horn and go the EBR line
you wont do good but ull have fun with 90KMH tanks
if you want TDs go for the 268 Version 4 or the badger

lyric oriole
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If you pursue the IS-7 Line You will have an easy time with the IS-4 line barring KV-4

Currently 2 strong lines are American, the lights and the Heavies

tidal atlas
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So WG hates the American Mediums

lyric oriole
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Basically

low elk
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patton is powercrept
if you want to win and have fun you need to play a braindead line
like the russian heavies
or the british armored TDs
or the russian armored TDs (the most broken tech tree tank in the game other than EBRs)

tidal atlas
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The EBRs are those wheeled tanks right

low elk
tidal atlas
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Also why do people hate arty so much

gentle wasp
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...

low elk
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because arty ruins games
same with ATGMs

tidal atlas
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Makes sense

fast hawk
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Lul, what a weird and low mastery šŸ¤”

dusky stone
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Were you bottom tier?

thick trout
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1264 base xp is pretty high, people in general aren't good with the T32 so it's ace bar is pretty low

edgy dune
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Lul, what a weird and low mastery šŸ¤”
@fast hawk in seven days

broken parcel
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they should remove the 212a from wot because 212 is a stupid number

glass crypt
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tiger 212 would like to have a word with you

solid gate
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How is the Großtracktor? Is it as fun as people say it is?

stoic pebble
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It’s a low tier KV-2.

solid gate
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Is next defender ru251?

topaz summit
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@lyric oriole so IS-7 like or IS-4 more fun to grind? Or just do American line? M6 is not so fun atm haha

solid gate
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I prefer the german heavy lines

gentle wasp
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@topaz summit the m6 is stupid broken rn

calm inlet
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@solid gate its trash

lyric oriole
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@topaz summit IS-4 is significantly better but getting everything up to IS-8 and All it's modules greatly helps the IS-4 grind.

M6 is also beyond broken rn

thorn glacier
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I was crying in my su85i spamming he at this hella aggressive m6 and did a total of 13 damage

topaz summit
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Idk my M6 seems paper thin...even hull down.. thank you, I am at the point to choose between KV-2 or 1s.. only T8 I have it my panther ll but still upgrading it..

narrow hedge
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people tend to underestimate the stock ISU gun

solid gate
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kv2 is better imo

surreal estuary
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Hey so I research tiger 2 and panther 2 which should I get?

tulip sail
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Tiger 2 by long shot

peak ferry
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Pz. IV Ankou SP worth a restore?

kindred wren
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Only if you like the series and want to collect the tank, otherwise you can just play the Pz. IV G and have the same or even a better experience

steep ice
kindred wren
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Check if you have a filter on. if yes, turn it off. Also, you can access tanks from the tech-tree by going to their module screen and then double tapping on them

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You can access the filter on the bottom right corner of the garage screen

next solstice
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honestly thinking of going down the Object 268 line

wise moth
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@solid gate Nah, he's just rigging battles. Basically what happens is he goes into battle with 3 other accounts, and they're all in failtoons so they're guranteed to be together, and then he the other accounts block other players so he can do all the damage

steep ice
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So how should I use the M8A1? Obviously I’m not a heavy to just rush in and do lots of damage. Do I snipe?

hybrid hare
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268 shooting a sheridan that is coming around a corner

solid gate
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hi

hybrid hare
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Except the sliver of horizontal spaced armor that acts as real armor lmfao 330mm+

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In real life if a shell with 152mm diameter hit a 6mm piece of sheet metal it would have just bent it, instead of struggle to penetrate like it's penning a block of solid metal.

fast compass
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Well this is an arcade game not realistic

hybrid hare
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In game it has 44hp/ton, about to be changed to around 30.

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Well this is an arcade game not realistic
@fast compass I like the word "arcade" because it highlights wg's growth strategy for blitz--basically enticing children to play the game with its more and more arcade playstyles (sheridan, uprising) and micro transactions (subscription service, pay to win)

strange thicket
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@hybrid hare just switch to war thunder

fiery zenith
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Haters be hating

wise moth
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@strange thicket War Thunder gameplay sucks though

strange thicket
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@wise moth he clearly doesn't like arcade games
Because it is for kiddz

wise moth
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@strange thicket Saying Blitz is bad still won’t make War Thunder fun šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

strange thicket
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My dude i never said war thunder is fun
He said he doesn't like arcade games BeCaUSe ThEy ArE foR KiDs
Then war thunder is suitable for him
I don't like warthunder
Tanks are like cardboard and i heard that the grind is even worse there

solid gate
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I had to play 7 battles to get a tier 1

solid gate
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well, damn!

bronze pilot
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At least in blitz when u kill someone they dont respawn in a plane and bomb u

olive sky
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revenge bombing is the best part in wt

solid gate
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What's the Best tier V and tier VI tank

quartz marlin
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I more like SU-100 for the tier VI TD

glass relic
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T1 heavy and the BromBell

inland osprey
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BDR G1B is actually pretty decent now

quartz marlin
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BDR have a good armour and good dpm

stone minnow
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Should I get the AMX 13 90, the AMX AC 48, or the Challenger

inland osprey
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I'd go for the 13 90, but all of them are pretty solid tanks

calm inlet
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man all of those suck

tulip edge
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Yeah, really scraping the bottom of the barrel there

green cloud
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I find it enjoyable causing havoc on a tiger in a m22 in realistic > AnUnknownThing#2494 War Thunder gameplay sucks though
Posit1ve_ [V]#635

olive mountain
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Guys, i was looking for an autoloader tank. Where should i go? US autoloaders? French HTs? or French LTs?

green cloud
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French lights

olive mountain
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Oh yeah one thing. My playstyle is rather camping and wait for enemy movement than rushing forward to the front. So which autoloader line is perfect for me?

green cloud
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Oh defiantly heavy

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If you're planning to play passive and wait for a push the heavies can punish players that over advance

olive mountain
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Which one? US? or French?

edgy dune
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damn i love this tank, and there is a real monsters as well, i've just only get class 1 mastery badge

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That resolution tho..

tardy beacon
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nice

bright wigeon
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Fearless camo doesn't look very special :/

thorn glacier
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@stone minnow get the 48 it's not as bad as they say

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I actually had a lot of fun with it once I figured out how to use its speed, frontal armor, and firerate while mitigating the weak point

tulip edge
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I got the stb yesterday and im pretty in love with it. Its such a strong tank, most games I can pump out atleast 3k damage. Worth the painful grind. Im aiming to get the Maus next.

distant sphinx
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Is progetto a competitive tank?

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65

calm inlet
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not anymore

north musk
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Amx 1357 go

gentle wasp
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Amx 1357 stay

thorn glacier
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Me: AMX what if you had a gun actually your tier

Amx 1357: haha tier 5 gun go brr

supple bolt
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Hehe yea boai

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@olive mountain Obviously French tanks, even the heavies, are daster and suit a mobile style of play. However, American autoloaders, have more armour and are slower to move so in that respect they would suit you- but the autoloader damage, up until the T57 Heavy, is very lackluster(remember, most US autoloaders are mediums not heavies) so to wait it out and snipe effectively with maximum damage you would want to go for French Heavies.

pale crow
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I know that many will disagree with me, but please buff the T95. The whole point of the tank is to have rediculous frontal armor, but no mobility. But when you get penetrated more times then not because you either can't hide the weak lower plate, or an enemy hits and overmatches the top of the vehicle because the T95 has such a low profile, it really defeats the purpose of the vehicle. Devs please consider making the lower plate and the vehicle ceiling stronger to return this vehicle to its place. Thanks. #bringbackdoomturtle

tankeatingtiger
It is.

gentle wasp
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ah, I see it now. yea the armor is stupid weak right now. #bringbackdoomturtle

supple bolt
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@pale crow I agree. #bringbackdoomturtle

steep ice
viral falcon
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Repair kit, medkit, auto fire extinguisher/large repair kit.

hollow notch
plucky siren
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Yep

tulip edge
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Yeah thats the ideal set up. Some tanks you might be looking to swap out the adrenaline, but it largely should be like that

steep ice
weary cypress
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Is the AMX 13-75mm good?

pale crow
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FOR CONTEXT:

T95: 95 Tons, 1600HP
Tortoise: 79 Tons, 1800HP
IS4: 58 Tons, 2650HP
T57 Heavy: 48.5 Tons, 2300HP
T110E5: approx 50 Tons, 2300HP
IS7: 46 Tons, 2500HP
FV215b: 77 Tons, 2100HP
AMX 50 b: 68 Tons, 2400HP

Couple other T9 TDs.
Jagdtiger: 74 Tons, 1800HP (almost same as tortoise)
WT auf Pz IV: 26 TONS, 1600 HP.

Why does the T95 have the same hp as the cardboard-on-wheels WT auf? And look between T95 and the IS4. 95 has twice the weight, and 900 less hp.

I know that most of these are T10 heavies, which means that even though they are lighter, they are more resilient. Naturally. But the hp gap between is a bit large. What do you guys think about this?

PS: Sorry, I appear to have written a book. I hope this makes a good point somehow.

abstract scarab
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@pale crow old t95 was a real terror. Too many people complained so WG nerfed it.

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sides unpennable by most tier x meds, only rear and cupola pennable. etc

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unpennable is the wrong word actually. more like stupidly troll side armor.

supple bolt
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@abstract scarab T95 really was a rock.

wise moth
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I don't really know if T95 was ever really a terror

abstract scarab
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It was a pain to kill back then.

wise moth
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The cupolas were always a problem, and of course, it also only went 14km/h

abstract scarab
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Yeah, but if it was in a good spot it'd easily take full enemy team a min or 2 to kill.

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But this is back in my super nub days so maybe it's the nostalgia talking lol

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@tulip edge You've been typing the last 5 mins lol, you ok there bud?

tulip edge
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@steep ice This is the general loadout you should follow for most tanks:
-Repair kit

  • Multi-purpose kit
  • Adrenaline
    Having med kit repair kit and fire extinguisher is a bad loadout. The multi purpose can replace, and the adrenaline is a key consumable that you should be looking to take on most tanks.
    You really want to take two repair kits, especially in something like a wolverine, because your engine will often be damaged as it is located at the front of the tanks hull. @abstract scarab no its 1am and my brain isnt working
abstract scarab
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Lol all good.

wise moth
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I kinda question the utility of adrenaline honestly. It's usually a better pick than the second med kit, or a fire extinguisher, but honestly, I find engine power boost to be more important than adrenaline on most tanks. The amount of benefit you can squeeze out of adrenaline is pretty minimal, since it's rare that you'll be able to have targets for the duration of the consumable, and the total boost it gives is honestly rather low

abstract scarab
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It's useful when 2 meds try to rush my solo Black Prince.. haha gun go pew pew pew.

pale crow
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@abstract scarab
I suppose I'm not asking for the old doom turtle back, but it needs to be brought back up to its proper role.

hollow notch
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I save it for when I can use it to it's full extent. I always forget about the existence of the engine boost when I have it equipped

wise moth
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For me, playing without EPB is like trying to play an FPS without the sprint key

olive mountain
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Guys, where should i go? Jdgpanther II or Ferdinand? I see both are powerful enough but Ferdinand is much slower than Jgpanther II

gentle wasp
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I love my JPII but some people really like the Ferdi for some reason

tulip edge
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@olive mountain personally I'd take the JPII. It sacrifices armour to gain mobility, whereas the Ferdinand does the opposite by more armour, less mobility. The problem is that people can negate your armour by loading gold and going through your cheeks. Not to mention you are much more liable to being flanked in it, and your weaker side armour will be exposed.

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I believe its more valuable to take the better mobility

tiny plume
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Jpanther, with ferdi you’ll just easily get flanked

solid gate
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Chi-nu, a 7.9s reload. A medium that has heavy mobility, and Glass armor. How to perform on it? Or should i just spend my free xp and go to Chi-to?

tiny plume
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No

steep ice
fringe hawk
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@steep ice hellcat if u want a turreted TD all the way too tier 10

solid gate
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The question is, E3 or E4? U have to choose. One line is more painful than the other. But the tier 10's worth the hard work

steep ice
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Well I have a tier 8 lepkz which I’m planning on using once I reach tier 8 on this tech tree

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@solid gate painful in terms of working? Is that the hellcat

fringe hawk
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@solid gate which is the more painful line i am doing jackson's line right now

solid gate
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@solid gate which is the more painful line i am doing jackson's line right now
@fringe hawk E3 line. Because T28 and T95, really slow tanks.

fringe hawk
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A sick the one i am doing

solid gate
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Well, a lot of patience is required for them.

steep ice
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I guess I’ll do hellcat

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Do I bother finishing upgrades for wolverine or just save up to next tank? šŸ¤”

fringe hawk
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@steep ice if you are going to switch lines i would save up

steep ice
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Okay.

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What’s the best way to play with a wolverine? Aggressive? Snipe? Defense? I’m unsure. Still learning

hollow notch
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Like a medium. It's basically the same thing as an m4. Just find a nice hull down spot and start farming damage

fringe hawk
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@steep ice i sniped alot in wolverine but i think playing aggressive would be the way to go just be wary of your hit points and non existent armor

supple bolt
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@wise moth same

abstract scarab
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Maus vs E100? šŸ¤”

hollow notch
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The whole e100 line is solid, but the maus line before buffs was painful

steep ice
fringe hawk
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@steep ice yeah but it takes longer to get to the next tank by sniping but that's just my experience

tulip edge
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@steep ice Yeah aggressive wont work well with it. No armour or HP. Same story with hellcat and t25/2, though the hellcat has decent mobility.

steep ice
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@tulip edge I asked earlier if I should do Jackson or hellcat

viral lodge
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@steep ice Jackson for the line Hellcat for the fun T6 TD

steep ice
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@viral lodge I’m a fairly new player. So explain what TD means? Also which one? You mentioned both.

viral lodge
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Tank Destroyer

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And based on what you want, Hellcat is great but the line has a mediocre T10 as of rn, the Jackson has an amazing T10 but the worst T8 in the game and the T9 isn’t the best per say so it’s a painful line and not exactly good for beginners

solid gate
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Jackson > Hellcat

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Also Wargaming after British lights we need Chinese ones or more Pan-Euro tanks.

viral lodge
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Jackson is better for actually winning but Hellcat is a hell of a lot more fun.

neat nimbus
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There's a give away and I want know something which of the tier 8 premiums (Lowe, T34, FCM 50 T I already have them) performs decent or meh

abstract scarab
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Is the T-22 Med good? If yes, what is its playstyle?

bronze pilot
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Just yolo and wiggle and bounce with ur stalinium

strange thicket
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Just yolo and wiggle and bounce with ur stalinium
definitely not yolo you will get rekt but yes wiggle and use your good armor

nocturne sage
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For the t32 American heavy tank, I know I need to do hull down but Should I play as a medium and go with the medium bc I don’t have good pen on ap and somewhat poor armor that any tier 8 and 9 can pen frontally with ap or should I play with the other heavies

strange thicket
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your turret armor is decent but you definitely are not mobile enough to go with the meds

nocturne sage
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Yea I just don’t what to do

strange thicket
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you will have to suffer till you get the m103 and then the e5

nocturne sage
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Uurrggg is there any other way to lessen the pain of death in it bc tier 8 and above is expensive with t32 repair cost costing at 10589 or so and that’s a big chunk of my credits earn per battle bc of mm I lose a lot and the discount from clan is a joke too

strange thicket
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don't you have any premium tanks? this is usually how grinding works
it is normal to lose credits and you can just undo the loss using your premium tanks

foggy sinew
strange thicket
foggy sinew
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ok

strange thicket
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k boomer

nocturne sage
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@strange thicket I do have a couple premiums but I just like playing them bc it means that I have pause my grind and I don’t want to rely on them too much and what equipment should I be runningn on the t32 and is the 105 better than the 90 (ik it’s dumb to ask but I’m torn between reload and dmg)

strange thicket
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ofc the bigger gun is better, it is good for trading and it is better for you when you go hulldown
idk about the equipments i am not really good with those, also no you definitely need to play your premium tanks to grind credits
you are technically not stopping your grind really since you still need credits so you can resupply your ammo and stuff.

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if you have enough credits you can keep playing and grinding your tank and then grind credits later

nocturne sage
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Ok thx really it really helps me bc it’s just a pain especially with the credits and mm and high tier battles where I’m over like a robot from battle bots fighting a t 800 cuz no armor when compare to others and lack of pen power

strange thicket
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well honestly we all had to go through some painful grinds
it take some patience
the e5 will reward you for your grind

rotund forum
#

which is better? FV4202 / Leopard 1?

calm inlet
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4202 is more about raw damage output with the HESH shells, Leopard 1 is more about precise shooting and DPM

#

they play differently

rotund forum
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For Flank And Rushing?

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Hmm... But Hard To Get Leo 1... On T9 Leo PTA, Too Many Exp Need For Gun And Engine

mystic summit
#

How much Gun dep does the t22 have

zealous anchor
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4202 good for carrying, I feel

fringe hawk
#

Good American tanks for flanking?

solid gate
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None except sheridan which is getting ruined next update

strange thicket
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Good American tanks for flanking?
@fringe hawk none

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there is the bulldog and the t49 tho
you can use those
but for tier 10 nah

fringe hawk
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Oof

vague steppe
#

anyone know how to Install Skin Mods? @everyone

fringe hawk
#

Did you try to @ everyone?

solid gate
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lmao

hollow belfry
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it’s only in replays

solid gate
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Ooooh aight tahnks

hollow vortex
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I need speed and some good damage

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Anyone suggest lineups

pale rapids
#

If I'm completely honest I think maus would be better if it had a good buff, make it a tier 10 vk 100 basically, not broken but more armor, the bottom plate can stay weak but maybe some more armor on the hull, but mostly on the cheeks, they get penned so easily, maybe just have them only penned at the middle and maybe a little more chance with apcr, but right now it has very weak armor, and I feel like it should be buffed, and also I try to angle the cheeks but everything still pens even when angled, that is why I feel like it needs a buff

hollow belfry
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Really? The Maus packs up to 3180 HP’s along with excellent armor. Angle, sidedcrape and wiggle. Don’t be afraid to angle the turret as the sides are 210mm thick, not counting the slope. A sidescraping Maus staying mid range and wiggling his turret will be hard to take out.

kindred bone
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is-7! i’m playing well with is-8 and still my favorite ix, is is-7 worth the effort ?

thick trout
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@kindred bone If you can keep up an agressive playstyle while dealing with the IS7s awful turret traverse it's a great tank, much bouncier than the IS8 especially against meds.

stoic pebble
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Is the T95 worth it?

remote bolt
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Is the kranvagn gonna be tech tree?

hushed shadow
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Yes they show it as part of a tech tree

broken turtle
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swedish upcoming tier 10 heavy is weird

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pike nose with french tanks turret

radiant coral
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Itā€˜s.... nvm

earnest mantle
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Wait is the kranvagn a autoloader?

solid gate
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Well I guess the Strv A and K should be mediums and the Emil 1951 be the heavy.

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Ok I’m sadly annoyed at it being called Kranvagn now. It’s the Emil III.

earnest mantle
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Just looked the tank up, in wot it has 440 alpha, no autoloader, but it has the speed of a 50b

tiny plume
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Wait is the kranvagn a autoloader?
@earnest mantle yes it is

elder wharf
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are those new tanks going to be swedish heavies (aside from british lights)

solid gate
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Looked like it. Also looked like the line started down lower than it does it PC.

fast compass
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Tier 6 up, what is the line on pc?

tulip edge
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@stoic pebble its worth getting it to get to the e3 lol. Other than that not really. Dumb enemies will bounce you, and as top tier your armour is fine, but anyone using 2 hands playing blitz will go through your armour. Not to mention its a frustrating tank to play, as its situational and team dependent, and a lot of the time either 1. Your team dies before you even get there or 2. Your team circles around the map and leaves you alone on the opposite side of the map as you trundle at 16km/h

wheat hearth
solid gate
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@fast compass I believe on PC (I’ve looked at the WoT site) it’s only tier 8 to 10. Unless they changed it since I last looked.

tiny plume
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are those new tanks going to be swedish heavies (aside from british lights)
@elder wharf Lol Swedish heavys and TDS arent coming to blitz

fast compass
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Hmmm Swedish heavies were just teased in the latest video

tiny plume
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They said they won’t release them

kindred wren
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They said the tds won’t come, not the heavies

solid gate
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Heavies are possible but the Swedish TDs won’t because of the hydroneumatic system.

tiny plume
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sad

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Soon I hope they bring better maps and Swedish TDS

elder wharf
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@tiny plume Isn't that a heavy tank with a swedish flag in the teaser video?

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(i just watched it, but i might be wrong)

tulip sail
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@elder wharf it's the kradvagen

thorn glacier
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Welp time to grind my strvm

solid gate
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Why do people want Swedish TDs so much guaranteed all people know about them is to just camp in one spot with them

fast compass
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People also want the 4005 to have a 183. People lack common sense, nothing we can do about it

thorn glacier
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People also want kv2 autoloader but this time we should do something about it

tulip sail
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Ok that one is a bit of a surprise someone would want it

hollow belfry
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Yeah, give it an autoloader so it’s even less accurate and I can laugh at a KV-2 missing me from 3m away

wise moth
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@solid gate Because it’s new, interesting gameplay we have never seen before. A TD with god tier accuracy, excellent DPM, high mobility, great camo rating, gun depression, but low alpha. Especially at tier X, there’s never been anything remotely close

solid gate
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@wise moth that’s the redeeming factors for it sadly it’s outside the realm of possibility for the game for now

wise moth
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I know it’s not coming, but that won’t stop me from desperately wanting it as a breath of fresh air, unlike the Brit lights and Japanese TDs, which are so horribly generic

solid gate
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cough cough please make another Cheiftain Mk. 6 offer PLEASE! cough cough

hollow notch
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Yea! More 50 battle 37ers in tier 10!

wise moth
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@hollow notch I don't see a problem with that? More ez damage for me 🤷

hollow notch
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•_•

hollow belfry
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Unless they are in your team

wise moth
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@hollow belfry That's ok too, because then they won't steal my damage

hollow belfry
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If only they could stay alive longer they would be perfect as meatshields, although they tend to get deleted in 15-20 sec

sharp lion
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They steal kills though

wise moth
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Works for me, since I don't care about kills (sometimes to the detriment of my winrate lol)

tulip edge
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just imagine all your teammates as cannon fodder

thorn glacier
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imagine having to imagine that

steep ice
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It seems like I get killed instantly by Su-100s so I’ve currently worked up to SU-85 in less than 3 hours from Tier 1. I’m currently on Wolverine though for America. Any tips with Wolverine?

tulip edge
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@steep ice Play a supporting role. You normally do not want to be fighting on the frontline as your armour is not hard to go through and you have a low amount of hitpoints.
You can afford to be more aggressive when you're top tier, but when you're in the tier 6 games, you definitely want to avoid being at the front of your team, as many things at tier 6 can two shot you, or even one shot you.

steep ice
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@tulip edge or multiple tanks shooting at me.. happens to me a lot lol. However I’m trying to play smart now and not aggressive

compact ferry
#

How good is the lekpz m41 90 mm?

broken parcel
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not so hot

compact ferry
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Is it worth it for the gold is being sold?

broken parcel
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hell no 5k at max

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However if played correctly it is a formidable opponent

gentle wasp
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@compact ferry I think it is really good. Awesome speed and it has high pen HE

tulip edge
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@steep ice thats good. Keep practicing your positioning, because once you learn good positioning habits, you can apply that logic to every tank

compact ferry
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I have played against it and don’t impress me but mostly it’s new players with 40 or 50% win rate, they don’t make good use of it

gentle wasp
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I am going to buy the 7.5k bundle and then get the legendary camo for it. And yea I try not to judge tanks off of how other people play them lol

tulip edge
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@compact ferry have you ever played the ru 251? If so did you like driving it?

compact ferry
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They have easy access to a premium tanks without knowing how to play them

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I like driving the ru but it’s a horrible tank to play.

gentle wasp
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What does that mean? Ru is a great tank.

tulip edge
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If you like driving the ru, chances are you will like driving the m41. They behave very similarly

compact ferry
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Naw, worst tank in blitz if you ask me

gentle wasp
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ok then don't get the m41 lol.

compact ferry
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But that’s just my opinion

gentle wasp
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I don't understand how you think that but if you don't like the Ru don't buy the m41 they are pretty similar

tulip edge
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If you think the ru 251 is the worst tank in blitz dont get the lekpz then

broken parcel
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i think he said he hated the bulldog not the ru...

compact ferry
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Other ppl might have better luck playing the ru, I have had horrible teams so I end up losing while playing that tank

gentle wasp
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no he said he thinks the Ru is the worst in the game lol

broken parcel
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bruh what

gentle wasp
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yea ikr thing is amazing

broken parcel
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@compact ferry have you even SEEN the is7?

tulip edge
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Its fine if you feel the ru is bad. In my opinion, its a perfect tank. Its a perfectly balanced tier 8 light, that has a lot of combat capacity and I personally love playing the tank. And yes im biased, I have played it 2000 times

gentle wasp
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... the is7 is good too

compact ferry
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The is7 is a beast

broken parcel
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its not the worst tank (the is7) but probably the worst soviet tank rn

gentle wasp
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no it is not lol have you even SEEN the T-44-100? is7 is really good dude

compact ferry
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I don’t have it yet, but I’ve played against it and it’s a total beast when it’s played correctly

broken parcel
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There is nothing the is7 can do that is4 cant do far better. I mean it has a better gun but the dpm is truly awful.

gentle wasp
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the is4 is also amazing lol

tulip sail
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In steps the is2sh

broken parcel
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is7 is overrall just meh. I mean i wouldnt actually mind driving it but its not very formidable

gentle wasp
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yea it is I don't know why you hate it but it is really good

broken parcel
wise moth
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@broken parcel When it comes to pubs, I prefer the IS-7 over the IS-4. IS-4s primary advantages are its HEAT shell, and superior turret armor.

In pubs, you don't really need the HEAT shell that much, and pubbies aren't gonna pen the IS-7 turret anyway. But the IS-7 has a superior upper plate, superior mobility, and superior alpha.

broken parcel
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@wise moth Thats actually very true.
In pubs, most is7 players running around have no idea what theyre doing. Combine that with not so awesome overrall stats and you get a mess. Is4 js definitely a force to reckon with in tournaments tho. I would say is7 isnt a great tank in the hands of a not so good player but pretty decent in a good players hands.

wise moth
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IS-4's HEAT shell is much more important in tournaments, as well as the superior turret, since competent tournament players will pen the IS-7 turret, but in pubs, I find those strengths more or less redundant

tulip edge
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In random battles, IS4s I generally have an easier time with because they normally dont try to use their armour effectively. I can easily shoot the lower plate, or the drivers hatch.
With the IS7, they just have to face towards you to make the armour as effective as it can be with the pike nose and I generally get trolled more often by the IS7s lower plate than the IS4s in my experience. Maybe could be aiming a little better sometimes lol.

wise moth
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Yeah, I'm also way better at shooting against IS-4s than IS-7s

gentle wasp
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@broken parcel basically read what Positive said lol also why are you throwing the Wz into the comparison they aren’t really the same. All I see from is-7 vs is-4 is that the gun and mobility are better. You can debate the armor use but it is close enough that you shouldn’t consider it a bad tank or even meh.

woven tulip
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How do you pen the is7 turret

wise moth
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@woven tulip Gold through the cheeks

solid gate
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The Mk.1 Defender can one the Tiger II upper plate easily for some reason

viral lodge
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It has 271 pen with cali on its prammo.

hearty arch
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Does anyone know what the lightest obtainable tank is in wotb? I looked it up but I only got Uc2pdr which is a collectors vehicle.

sharp siren
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the t1 Cunningham

glass crypt
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the elc is only 2t, i haven't bothered checking t1 tanks

hearty arch
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@sharp siren what is the t1 Cunningham?

sharp siren
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You boomer isn’t it the tank before 5.5

plucky merlin
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@sharp siren he cant be a boomer if he isnt old enough to know the tank so technicallyyou are the boomer just sayingšŸ‘€

glass crypt
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he asked about obtainable tanks tho

steep ice
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How do I get more stars for upgrade or next tier? For a tank that doesn’t have x2 Stars? Is it more kills? I’m 1K out of 20K for either a Jackson or hellcat

boreal harbor
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I mean there are boosters and prem time

sharp siren
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I mean there’s free orange stArs

boreal harbor
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?

solid gate
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just get high dmg wins

glass crypt
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it's literally explained in the tutorial, my brain just bricked reading that

viral lodge
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@steep ice you get research points (the stars) by doing battles, the 2x thing doubles your XP for 1 battle that you win.

steep ice
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@glass crypt if you’re referring to me with that comment, if you don’t got anything useful to say then stay quiet. @viral lodge why do some vehicles have the 2x but some don’t

viral lodge
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You get a 2x bonus every 12 hours some events make it 3/4/5x

glass crypt
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pretty sure its only 2x and 5x, events change how many times u can get them

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also someone had to point out you skipped the basics

steep ice
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@glass crypt I just wanted more tips. Doesn’t hurt does it? I just wanted to figure out if I could do anything else.

glass crypt
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you can use tanks that you've already researched all the modules for and researched the next tank in the line and they become elite, meaning any xp gained in them can be turned to free xp using gold
if u dont know already free xp can be used on any tank

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im willing to help but i cant stop myself from criticising whenever i can

minor mica
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Is the t92 gonna get nerfed ?

gentle wasp
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already has

neat nimbus
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british lights or swedish heavies?

broken sentinel
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@neat nimbus are you asking which line you should go down?

neat nimbus
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@broken sentinel yes

tulip sail
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Personally I'm going for the swedish heavies

broken sentinel
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In that case, probably start out with the British mediums, which will make the grind for the British Lights much easier (they share guns and whatnot).

The Swedish heavies will be coming out much later which means you can get the British Lights going sooner as well. Who knows, you might already get the British Lights before the Kranvagn even comes out @neat nimbus

neat nimbus
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well im preparing the bost to skip and get directly to the britsh lights

tulip sail
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With how I go down lines not likely

broken sentinel
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You guys need to keep in mind that the Kranvagn wont be coming in 7.0. Only the British Lights will

neat nimbus
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i think i can grind in firefly and cromwell

tulip sail
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I'm still not done with the british tds

broken sentinel
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@neat nimbus the british lights come in after the Comet

neat nimbus
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which one i should take first firefly or cromwell?

broken sentinel
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Cromwell. Get the Comet and then grind that

tulip sail
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I loved the firefly

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It's good just a different playstyle

neat nimbus
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Cromwell. Get the Comet and then grind that
@broken sentinel got it

broken sentinel
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šŸ‘

neat nimbus
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ok gun is

zealous anchor
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??

wild island
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Pls add Carro Veloce 33 at WoTB

solid gate
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what tank led to t71 before 5.5

broken sentinel
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@neat nimbus turret and an engine

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then go for the gun as soon as possible

neat nimbus
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I got enough for turret and engine

fervent sand
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Is the EU med line worth it to go down? Or should I spend my time on another med tech line?

solid gate
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it's worth it until the standard B(tier 9) @fervent sand then you have to consider whether you want a tier 10 that's worse than the tier 9

fervent sand
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Ouch. Thanks for the input, I’m looking for a good tier X med, any suggestions? (Ps this is coming form a Russian heavy and Russian TD player looking to start my first med line although I do have the T-34-85)

hollow notch
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If you are only after the tier 10, stb1, but if you want a good line to go with it, the e50m line should be a decent one to go down after all the Panthers got buffs.

fervent sand
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K, thx

hollow notch
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(My personal favorite is jackson) but that award generally goes to the vk36 or arl44

tiny plume
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Cromwell b

sudden granite
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should i go for the E100, FV4005 or the leo 1

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wait what

solid gate
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dont listen to him go for E100 rn its the current meta

sudden granite
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oh ok

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so the E100

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@solid gate which other T10 is viable

solid gate
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fv4005 and leopard 1 arent that viable unless your really experienced in their fields

sudden granite
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well, im more of a light/med guy

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so if you had to choose, which one would you pick

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oh ok

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e.e im torn!!

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im about to rip my hair out

solid gate
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get E100 4005 and leopard 1 are not at all curently viable now unless skilled enough or else youll have a bad rime

sudden granite
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leo is quite a good looking tank tbh

rotund skiff
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E-100 is very meta thanks to combo of big boi gun, lotsa HP, and armor.

Leo 1 is just hard to use and honestly just get a russian med if you want dpm, meds are also in a bit of a tight spot thanks to the heavy buffs (aka more gold to be spammed)

4005 is not meta whatsoever and is really just a giant meme. It requires a team and cherry-picked maps to work, both of which you don't have the luxury of in randoms.

Also, I was big brain and wasted like 50k FXP on the cromwell because I wanted the new lights, when I had the Sherman Firefly fully equipped. I am very big brain.

sudden granite
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oh ok, so no barn

rotund skiff
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@sudden granite mods don't like swearing, may wanna edit that nickname out

sudden granite
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its tru tho...

rotund skiff
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yeah it's true but what can we do

sudden granite
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lol i guess so

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oh and heres a tip, the british LTs are branching out from the comet

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so just keep that in mind

calm inlet
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@sudden granite just get the E-100 and don’t look back

sudden granite
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yep here goes nothing

solid gate
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British lights are gonna be a bit wonky

steep ice
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Damaged a whole bunch of tier 7s. Had to use ACPRs though. I’m so used to playing support now. Don’t think I’ll go aggressive.

strange thicket
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pretty normal for a bottom tier tank
also i think you meant tier 6s

steep ice
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No I got matched with VIIs..

strange thicket
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fail toon?

steep ice
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Is that referring to platoon? Lol. Yeah I was in one.

strange thicket
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yeah
well
don't platoon with someone with a tank higher than yours

steep ice
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Definitely going to go Jackson and not Hellcat. Lots of people told me Jackson is better.

strange thicket
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if you want good toons then match tiers
also i personally don't really know lol
i went down the german TD line instead, gave up on wolverine

steep ice
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I don’t really have a specific line. This is my second day playing..technically 3rd now since it’s 3am. I’m just exploring US

strange thicket
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oh nice

steep ice
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I do see that Nashorn, SU-100 destroy me easily lmao so I do want to explore those trees

strange thicket
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the m6 is not bad and the t29 is a good heavy
you will kinda suffer at t32

steep ice
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You buy the next tier? There’s no choice after that.

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@strange thicket Which VK is good? I might run those lines too since I see a lot of them.

strange thicket
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@strange thicket Which VK is good? I might run those lines too since I see a lot of them.
@steep ice VK36 the heavy tank

hollow belfry
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VK 30.01 P is a pretty good tank too

strange thicket
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VK36 is more newbie friendly tho
and the line is worth it
unlike the 30.01P line (not as worth it)

hollow belfry
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VK 30.01 P leads to the Maus, it can hardly not be worth it

strange thicket
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oh wait i had the vk72 in my mind LoL
yeah maus is worth it

hollow belfry
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30.01 P is a heavier Cromwell with a 8,8cm L/56 and more armor (it’s turret is pretty solid). Underrated tank imo

strange thicket
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well yeah this is his 3rd day in the game sooo

hollow belfry
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It’s a good T6 to learn a med’s playstyle

strange thicket
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fair enough

urban trail
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@steep ice bad idea man, the hellcat line is much better. just look at it, its much better to go for the t28 prot than the t28, at least it has a turret, trust me ive grinded both lines before. and after the t28 prot theres the t30, which is a beast at t9. as for the t95, its cool, just slow as shit. but word of advice, if u dont want as much pain for the higher tiers, go for the hellcat

valid lodge
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Jackson was nore enjoyable than Hellcat however T28 was awful and T95 wasn't enjoyable since most the time it pitted me with moatly med comps. Basically left me alone and backed up in a corner or getting flanked to death trying to keep up with the team

subtle mason
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Do we have patchnotes on balance changes in 7.0? Heard bulldog gets boosted

fast compass
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Bulldog buff will be for 7.1

7.0 balance changes should be there on blitzhangar

subtle mason
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Oh. Could you give me the link to 7.1 post, please?

thick trout
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@subtle mason The 7.0 stats are as far ahead as we know, we need to wait for the 7.1 open test to be released

subtle mason
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Oh, I see. Thanks anyway

abstract scarab
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Foch 155, autoloader or stock?

strange thicket
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@urban trail hellcat line is meh
Big meh
And the e3 is better than the e4

frigid ember
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hey guys! quick question!
Yesterday i played a couple of battles on tier 4-5 and there were 2 players in red team with 10k+ battles on tier 4-5 vehicles. And they almost don't play on mid or high tiers. If there are such players who like low levels so much tell me please, what's holding you at those tiers? Why not going up to tier 6-7 and 8-10 in future?
fell free to tag me if you have something to say

proven jasper
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Thats seal clubbing or someone who got pushed into low tiers cuz of his low performance. There r tanks like the pz b2, and some really strong tech tree ones to dominate over tye new players so that they'll be happy

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Pushed down can mean that they were insulted pretty badly in high tiers

solid gate
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@frigid ember it’s the win rate.

fast compass
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Only low tier tank i would play by choice is the hellcat. But even then i wouldn't jump in it everyday
Oof didn't see that. Well tier 6 is still kinda low for me

proven jasper
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Hellcat is t6 tho, i think he's talking about t5-

radiant coral
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Yeah... I would take Wolverine & Stug & Leopard..

proven jasper
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@fast compass t6 is indeed low, i don't play it xD

solid gate
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But you can’t hate all players for that. Some players might have special needs or they may have physical problems. They may not can play the higher tiers. The Missiles, killed it for 9 and 10 for a lot of players. Thangs change. The problem that I see is that we’re losing our veteran players. The game is really lag he and people aren’t happy and so maybe that’s why they play in the lower tiers also. Imop

tulip edge
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@frigid ember I believe part of the reason why users gravitate to the lower tiers is because it gives a more casual experience than your higher tiers. In a way, theres more freedom to do what you want at the lower tiers because your average player below tier 5 will care far less if they win or lose, and what you are doing.
In addition, users may have a more satisfying and less frustrating experience at the lower tiers because it's far easier for them to influence the outcome of the battle. They keep wining --> they keep playing at the lower tiers.

frigid ember
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Sealclubbing is obvious here. But i'd like to see other reasons šŸ™‚

radiant coral
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I believe part of the reason why users gravitate to the lower tiers is because it gives a more casual experience than your higher tiers. In a way, theres more freedom to do what you want at the lower tiers because your average player below tier 5 will care far less if they win or lose, and what you are doing.
In addition, users may have a more satisfying and less frustrating experience at the lower tiers because it's far easier for them to influence the outcome of the battle. They keep wining --> they keep playing at the lower tiers.
@tulip edge
Youā€˜re not wrong at all

solid gate
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@frigid ember That is one of the reasons because they get the thrill of beating the crap out of somebody that doesn’t know how to play this all about the win rate

kindred otter
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Imo it's more likely related to personal things like

  1. The feeling of success because you win more often there since you play against newbies
  2. Stat padding
  3. Some might just play it for fun
  4. Or it's just people having way to much fun killing newbs
    That's probably everything I have to say and some people like to brag with their WR afterwards and the clubbing is supported by the fact that some tanks are obviously unbalanced espacially from t4 to t5 like the T1 heavy which is pretty much invincible against some tanks
plucky depot
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i prefer low teirs over the higher ones because i find it a easier way to earn silver since most htings cost less such as ammo and consumables

solid gate
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I think we all know the answer to this. One version might sound better than the other it doesn’t really matter I do like playing the lower tiers sometimes there is nothing wrong with that but when you make it a habit for you win rate you’re a loser

radiant coral
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Those are actually the most logical reason.... just saying

solid gate
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Ribble, I'd put it down to the three C's.

Competency: If a player doesn't feel competitive in higher tiers they may just avoid them all together.

Cost: The higher credit costs of high tier play may drive some players away from those tiers. Especially if they don't own a premium tank or premium time.

Care: learning to do well in higher tiers takes a level of "give a care" that some players simply lack. They want to click battle and blow up a tank. The time and effort needed to advance, learn, and excel is simply beyond the level of "give a care" that they want to bring to the game.

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@solid gate very good.

kindred otter
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@solid gate I agree but the first and last are the most common imo since they usually don't play high tiers at all and you don't need 20k battles in a T2 tank to have enough money and they usually don't play the T3 prem tanks that are given away by WG for example

plucky depot
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since tanks have shells are they technically crustations

radiant coral
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And the other reasons why I would play high tier 8-10 is because of the tanks and of the sound of the guns etc. but, most of the time Iā€˜m there and carrying myself the whole team,
itā€˜s not real fun,... and Then those people who are crying cuz they are losing even when they died in the first minutes of the battle and calling someone dumb etc. cuz because your tank is stock or you are completely new on that tier.... so..

solid gate
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@kindred otter a subpar to average player will hemorrhage credits and in higher tiers. Especially if they fully kit their tanks out.

proven jasper
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^

kindred otter
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People said its less frustrating, as someone trying to skip low tiers as much as possible I really don't understand that since

  1. Teams down there are pure garbage they don't listen to anything
  2. For me playing there is worse than playing something like T10
  3. watching them really hurts when you know what they are doing

@solid gate I know and understand that but do those players even equip their tanks knowing some casual 40%ers they barely use provisions equipment or even repair stuff

solid gate
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I've seen people post pics of a wrecked Tiger 2 in their garage and 5k credits in their bank wondering why their tank isn't fixed... I definitely think that credits play a roll in where players ultimately decide to hit battle.

mystic summit
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@solid gate which also leads people to buy premium tanks for gold. This is how the camping 252u players are made

hard nexus
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buff 252u

mystic summit
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Also imo it’s less frustrating when you see a Cruiser III player camping than a Dracula player camping. Fair enough, the cruiser player has probably just started playing, but there should be a cap for when you can buy prem tanks. E.g you are only allowed to buy premium tanks for the tiers you have unlocked in tech tree

abstract scarab
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Foch 155- HEAT is only 15 alpha lower than AP.. should I load all HEAT?

fast compass
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No. Heat is stopped by hard cover

hard nexus
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you lose like 83 dpm

mystic summit
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@abstract scarab no, AP is better for spaced armor
Also your credits will burn

hollow belfry
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I also see people complaining they can’t pen a tier VIII heavy from the front while playing a random tier VII, then asking Wargaming to « fix those bugsĀ Ā» in the next patch. Considering this, the average player is far from understanding how the game really does work, and some play low tiers only because they get wrecked past T5.

abstract scarab
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I consistently get higher rolls with HEAT than AP lol.

Ik about the cover thing but I play it very aggressively.

I have 15m credits atm, not an issue.

Spaced armor is a good point tho, I can pack half and half? Plus 6 HE?

mystic summit
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Every time a player makes an advancement, a tutorial should be given for 200 gold.

fast compass
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Plus 407mm pen is overkill most of the time. Foch Ap has plenty pen already

I carry 12 ap, 11 heat rest he

kindred otter
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The thing is people that know how to play can somewhat abuse the system in several ways 1. Rerolls they just club their way through but that's probably EU und ru only 2. People purposely staying at low tiers making it even harder for new players to advance even tho that's not always bad
Teaching every new player everything is impossible and after trying to teach several 40%ers anything I know that most of them aren't able or willing to improve its like an addiction they always fall back in the same pattern for example careless peaking getting shot - > getting salty - > playing worse and that repeats even if they fix it for some time and I think a different tutorial could help new players

mystic summit
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@abstract scarab Ik u don’t care about credits but what’s the point loading 30 heat shells if u only fire 4 a game

abstract scarab
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4? I average 3k a game. That's closer to 6-8 lol. But yeah. I guess I'll do halfsies.

fast compass
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Ap is the best ammo in the game. Why avoid taking it

mystic summit
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If ur having to fire 8 heat shells a game something needs to change

abstract scarab
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I don't need to fire 8 heat shells. I'm just saying, only 15 lower alpha. Plus I seem to be more lucky with it than AP.

But point has already been made. I'll do halfsies. Thanks guys.

mystic summit
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Luck doesn’t exist
It makes 0 sense to load all heat

hollow belfry
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I only can agree with Eurydome, it’s way easier for 40%ers to repeat the same mistakes for 70 thousands battles and blame your teammates than to watch guides on YT and ask better players to toon/go in training rooms with you.

mystic summit
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@hollow belfry exactly, which is why I think every time a player gets a new tank type, or gets a higher tier or visits the shop for the first time, 10k credits or 200 gold or a camo or whatever should be offered for watching a tutorial
ā€œThis is what a tank destroyer doesā€ or ā€œwhat to do when you run out of creditsā€

solid gate
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@mystic summit For every camping 252u I could find a camping E-100. Not sure what the connection you are trying to make is.

hollow belfry
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If they refuse to improve the tutorial for newer players, they should at least highlight the CC’s work and post links to their discords and Yt channels.

mystic summit
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The only difference is that they’ve slogged out the e100 line for several thousand games

solid gate
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Thousands of games sitting in the back is arguably worse to me than a player who buys a tank and then ends up in over their head. At least the premium tank buyer has the opportunity to still learn. The E-100 driver on the other hand has proven that he is incapable of learning.

mystic summit
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Not incapable, just given the wrong resources, if any

hollow belfry
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*incapable, or either unwilling.

kindred otter
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Things like how to earn credits are not things that you need to be good for me it's more likely

  1. Ammo types and their behaviour
  2. Meds lights
  3. Heavys and then tds
  4. After heavys or the meds a tutorial what weak spots are and show them on some tanks and for the heavy tutorial showing how to hide them or avoid them
  5. A description of military honor I'll come that later
  6. How to earn credits
  7. Provisions

Now to the military honor it definitely needs a rework my opinion is show the stars in the colour of the wr so people so people are more likely to trust a blue or purple star and yes people with 1 battle and 100% wr exist but that's a minority or link it to a 30 day wr so that things like that can't happen and put a special star for people that get lots of down votes so you can identify those

hollow belfry
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Military honour is useless, you’ll be below 5 starts only if you’re a <200 dmg troll

solid trench
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Its just a game. If you dont like the multiplayer aspect stop playing. We can play how we want, drown ourself, yolo, etc.

kindred otter
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And as an addition that would require tons of work is the ability of looking at tanks from the view of a tank you choose like in WT or the things lots of people use to look at tanks already idk was it blitz hangar?

strange thicket
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Its just a game. If you dont like the multiplayer aspect stop playing. We can play how we want, drown ourself, yolo, etc.
@solid trench that would be true if you weren't ruining the match for other 6 players in your team
Stop playing and go play gta or any offline game
Not a game that needs teamwork

kindred otter
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Or use training rooms šŸ˜‚ but there is no use in telling a person like that anything

hollow belfry
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Its just a game. If you dont like the multiplayer aspect stop playing. We can play how we want, drown ourself, yolo, etc.
Well yea, but the supposed point of a game is to have fun, and most of time sane people have fun playing a game like WoTb by winning a battle (or just having a good match if they can control their nerves). But if you enjoy pain and losing 60% of your matches, then errr... everyone his own tastes i guess

strange thicket
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He is arguing that it is okay to do whatever he wants even if it would cost his team the match
How selfish can he be lmao

solid gate
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Its just a game. If you dont like the multiplayer aspect stop playing. We can play how we want, drown ourself, yolo, etc.

hasty hill
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Responding to that question, i used to play a lot tier 4 and 5 (and if not tier 8) when i still in around 8k-12k ish battles, it's was still before 5.5 updates though. I simply playing at that tier because i think that it's satisfying to playing in such small tank like elc and luch which is not found in high tier... Nowadays sometime i still playing in tier 1-5 for achieving 3rd party website damage record, it's just because you guys nerfed low tier LTs so hard after 5.5 update so I never played it again that much. BUT, I will admit that sometime i platooned with my irl friends that still new to the game for fun.

If you asked main reason why 10K+ battles player still playing in low tier nowadays, I think that because it's the only tier that they find it's fun and also a battle that they think they still could win it. I'm still remember that when i getting into high tier i keep losing that crushing my mood to play the game. So after that i keep stuck at tier 8 until around 20K battles-ish.

So i guess it's just preferable of some player, it's not the system fault. Even if you tried to push that player, i think it's useless since i also had irl friend player who refuse to play tier 7 and above(oh he is also quit the game nowadays since he had some bad internet to play the game).

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@frigid ember

hollow belfry
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He literally is saying that it’s ok to throw away the match just by doing what YOU want because you have fun doing it, but also tells us to stop playing if we don’t like the multiplayer aspect of the game. How to counter your own argument in a nutshell

strange thicket
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LoL

tulip edge
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The grind for modules from having a stock tank is really painful at the higher tiers and puts people off.
A player is going to get his first tier 8, such as a kv4, drive it stock and have no fun at all. They click battle to shoot and kill tanks, but stock grinds make that incredibly difficult in a lot of high tier tanks. This links to the cost, as most stock tanks will require you to shoot gold to be able to deal any damage, and using provisions can be too costly for a player to use consistently.The average player doing a stock grind can expect to be grinding out modules for so many battles before they have a tank at a good combat capacity at the higher tiers.
So they go back to the lower tiers, where grinds are relatively short and inexpensive, and rack up their battle count there.

solid trench
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Its just a game, try not to take it serious. Based on WG MM and RNG. We all get angry and we need to relax...try to find other incentives to play this game besides winning, for me its driviving a gorgeous tank. Most of the time we have 0 dmg players, campers in lights or heavies, it cant be hellped...remember 5.5, some players dont have the time to learn and they are at tier 8 in 1-2 days of playing.

mystic summit
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I guess u could say ā€œit’s just a gameā€ about football as well, but people don’t for some reason
Or any other spectator sport
Lmao ik

abstract scarab
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That's way off the subject tho lol and you know it.

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I missed most of the discussion but I do agree with Thor's last statement.. at the end of the day, it's a game. I myself need to be reminded of that sometimes, not gonna lie.

mystic summit
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Everyone does to some extent

solid trench
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I spend more time@on youtube learning to play the tank or how to counter certain enemy tanks or positioning on map and I find myself spotting in a stock E75 at tier 9 cuz sometimes thats what u have to do to have a chance and sometimes just by looking at the enemy lineup u should know win or lose ( had one with 2xis3 def in platoons, 252u and 2xisu152 in enemy team, guess how that one went). After 10k battles in regular , I play in platoon more than 60% of the time because you cant rely on your team

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So, relax, its just a game, have a coffee, try again or have a break, and play to your heart content šŸ‘

tulip edge
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Buy a tog. It relieves all stress

solid trench
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Spot on šŸ‘

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Whatever floats your boat and makes you smile

mystic summit
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Puns intended?

pastel drum
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Its just a game. If you dont like the multiplayer aspect stop playing. We can play how we want, drown ourself, yolo, etc.
@solid trench What drugs are you on mate?

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if you want to purposely lose, die or troll then I am sorry to say but your life is meaningless as you have no goal as you have no aim to win/succeed. People who systematically act like morons literally do not have a meaning in their life and are therefore useless to society

kindred otter
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No matter what's the enemy's team might look like I play with IS-6 and its stock gun sooo I play a old meta tank that is far behind the new tanks with its 175mm pen and it works and I play and win against 252u toons, the regular T8 super uni toons and so on its all about your own performance idrc about my teams performance all I see is my performance

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But people purposely loosing should be banned for sure if they want to drown they can in training rooms

solid trench
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Stay calm, read thru, are u able to comprehend digital life vs real life? Its just a game, thats the main ideea. Stop getting angry over bits of data. Enjoy life with your frinds, your family, your child, wife, dog, byke theu the mountains, swim naked, enjoy life. This its just a game, dont take it so serious.

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I had more fun rushing thru heavies in a T49 platoon or focus fire a enemy in a 152 platoon or even trying to jump over heavies in the electric biscuit than ever grinding or thinking about stats. But I do my tank job, spot, highlight, cover flanks, help a teammate even if it cost me hp...never liked the youtubers that say use you team as meat shields...its a team hp pool, keep the guns in the game at whatever hp is left

plucky merlin
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Which tanks have hesh shells?

mystic summit
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British vehicles

steep ice
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@valid lodge so Jackson it is

brazen cobalt
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So I’ve been thinking of asking this but to the people that had the T49 ATM is that ever coming back into the game it is it permanently taken out

kindred otter
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No hopefully never

kindred wren
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It most likely won’t come back

solid gate
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I hope that it does. I never mastered it the first time 😢

fleet zinc
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Guys, what should i get? E50M or Leo1?

kindred wren
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Both

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In that order

glass crypt
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t5 is more fun then t7 and above, everything is unpredictable and your tanks are quite limited to what they can do, its more intense

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if someone looks at you, there's a 70% chance they can pen excluding the probability ur using the T1

pale rapids
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@hollow belfry even when angling anything can pen

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I even hide the bottom plate and angle the turret but still everything goes through

hollow belfry
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"The Maus is an horrible T10"šŸ˜‚

strange thicket
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@pale rapids the maus is god at side scraping
Look and see what you are doing wrong and fix it

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You want it without weak spots or something?

pale rapids
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@strange thicket the bottom plate is fine

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I just want at least a cheek buff

tulip edge
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Yes, lets buff one of the strongest and best performing tier ten heavies.

strange thicket
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The cheeks are fine
Angle them
Fricking up the angle is easy but it is still effective to angle the turret

pale rapids
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I've tried over and over and over again but it dont work

strange thicket
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Big guns and prammo are ofc gonna go through
It is normal

pale rapids
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Ik

broken parcel
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why in gods name would you want to buff the maus? Its like top 3 best performing t10 heavies..

pale rapids
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I heard it got a buff on pc

gentle wasp
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which is a completely different game

pale rapids
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It's literally blitz with bigger maps, more tanks, and higher quality

gentle wasp
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also artillery and totally different balance so that doesn't mean anything toward the Maus getting a buff or not

pale rapids
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It's called an opinion

gentle wasp
tulip edge
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The maus was already good and it got a chunky HP buff. Doesnt need another buff

gentle wasp
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it has 3k HP like come on if you can't make that work that is a you problem

tulip sail
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I'm stealing that and you cant stop me

gentle wasp
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how original

broken parcel
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@T H E E N I G M A#1711

wise moth
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Yes, I agree, buff the Maus. Give it a 10s reload so I can have DPM in line with an E5. Make it a rolling damage dealer of DOOM

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#BuffTheMaus

solid gate
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Higher top speed as well?

tulip edge
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Its not fair that a maus cant catch a light tank, it should be able to at least do 50km/h

swift harness
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I feel like this is controversial but like the 100mm and 122mm gun on the IS is a big decision

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Did you guys go with 100mm or the 122mm when you were going through the IS

kindred wren
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Both. I ended up using the 122mm because the armour isn’t really good enough to peek more often than you really must

swift harness
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I feel like I should go with the 100mm until I get the 2nd 122mm gun

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I don’t think the 122mm is for grinding but instead it’s for fun due to the inaccuracy and long reload speed

hard forge
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T-34-85 Rudy should be of Polish nationalityā¤ļø šŸ‡µšŸ‡±

radiant coral
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šŸ¤”... why ?

fervent sand
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I do the 122 for the IS

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The IS is slightly better KV-1S. I would mimic the last set up you had on it and it will a lot more of an enjoyable experience

strange thicket
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I mean if you wanna run the 100mm then you better off going with meds
The 122mm is better for trading

brave leaf
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Why the upcoming buff for the bc?

strange thicket
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I think because it is not on bar with the current meta

tulip edge
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@brave leaf just to make it a bit more viable at tier ten. Its been kind of overshadowed at tier ten, especially by sheridan.

thorn glacier
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Give foch 155 the at7 10-shot clip

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Imagine a 5000 damage clip

broken sentinel
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The Batchat buff wont really do much anyways. It was already quite mobile, now they're just improving something that was already fine in the first place. What they needed to do was give it 2.5 seconds between shells rather than 3.0 seconds.

tulip edge
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Its more quality of life improvements. What is significant is that the sheridan nerf will make the BC more relevant

broken sentinel
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True, the Sheridan losing hp/t will make the Batchat better by comparison. I just wish they'd directly buff the Batchat's dpm or unload speed

severe swift
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what is ur guys fav tank to play?

broken parcel
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object 268 and wz-121

severe swift
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268

tulip sail
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M4A1 rev

severe swift
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i dont have that tank :v

tulip sail
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It's a great med

solid gate
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I agree.

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I can't pick one. So I'll pick 3
T49, Rev, and Chimera

severe swift
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K

tulip edge
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Fv4202, expensive love

hollow notch
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Spaghettio 46 all the way

viral falcon
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Fv4202 by far!

thorn glacier
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I liked the AMX elc

And unpopular opinion, the wz111 is really fun to play

hollow belfry
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I’m on a different version for now (the 1-4 at T9) but I enjoy playing it

radiant coral
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Hmmmm....

prisma hornet
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Hey guys, what's wrong with the weapon stats of ingame M46 patton? Blitzstars says the tank has a 2 second aim time with 364 dispersion, while the ingame stats show it has 384 and 5 seconds of aim time

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Seriously, I am confused with the top gun stats of the gun.

thorn glacier
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I've never seen so much premium

radiant coral
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sarcasm activated

thorn glacier
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Honestly they're both fun in different ways but v different playstyles, I have to say I prefer the 100 tho

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Mostly because I'm not a pro

solid gate
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Vindicators siege shield is very useful change my mind

radiant coral
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Well, I will see than...
Probably going to have them both, before July but till then, It means to grind a lot

livid yacht
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@prisma hornet do you have every food provisions equipped ?

thorn glacier
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@solid gate you can push people I guess?

radiant coral
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Vindicator siege shield is very useful change my mind
Why should I ?

solid gate
prisma hornet
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I don't own the tank, and I doubt it's showing 75% Isaac_HU

solid gate
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I wasn’t expecting for the Gif to look that bad

thorn glacier
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Oh but it stops he

solid gate
thorn glacier
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Show a video of u pushing ppl and I'll change my mind

solid gate
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For some reason this thing isn’t designed to push people or ram, the engine is not powerful enough to push other tanks

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Believe me I tried, I damage myself more than damaging the enemy

radiant coral
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Thatā€˜s actually sad......

livid yacht
solid gate
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I know it’s very annoying, I hope they buff that

thorn glacier
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American meds make me cry

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Aight but what's the WORST tier 10

prisma hornet
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@livid yacht The ingame statistics show it differently oddly enough

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Give me a minute I will gather some information quickly.

thorn glacier
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Stats say it's the tier 10 Chinese td

tulip edge
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Fv215b 183 is definitely scraping the bottom of the barrel

prisma hornet
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@livid yacht

Shown in picture is the blitzstar statistic of the M46 patton

Top gun stats shown in game World of tanks blitz

Dispersion: 0.384
Aim Time: 4.9
Damage per minute: 2482
Reload time: 8.46 seconds

No vents or any form of upgrade is accounted for
I have not unlocked the M46 patton

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It does not add up, the M46 patton has the worst gun on tier 9 by a longshot, has Wargaming forgot to update the stats?

wise moth
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@prisma hornet The gun has 2 major strengths though, the DPM is excellent, and the gun handling is also quite good

prisma hornet
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DPM is not good, in the in game stats atleast, it has inferior DPM to the T-54, LEO PTA and the dispersion and aim time is the worst in all of the mediums. It is literally a worse type 61 and that tank may possible be the worst medium in tier 9

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This can't be the case.

The recent showing of bushka's M46 patton gameplay clearly demonstrates that the M46 patton (if accounting for vents) has the same statistics shown in blitzhanger, but not in the ingame stats

wise moth
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@prisma hornet I on't know what M46 you're driving, but the M46 has better DPM than all other tier IX meds except the Type 61

prisma hornet
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Can you change your M46 pershing to the stock turret?

wise moth
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Who the heck uses the stock turret on the M46?

prisma hornet
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To check the statistic if the DPM, dispersion and other things change.

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The issue here is Blitzhanger and the ingame statistics are not accurately showing the top guns

wise moth
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@prisma hornet You lose a lot, you lose DPM, dispersion, HP, and view range

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Also, I'm pretty sure that the reason why the stats look so bad in your garage, is since you haven't bought it, it's displaying the stats with a 50% crew

prisma hornet
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I do not own the m46 pershing, my frustration is the turret upgrade does not tell the propr statistics of the top gun

lyric oriole
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Positive Also tested the Pershing turret and the 17pdr British guns were able to penetrate the mantlet about 80% of the time putting the Effective armor at only about 175mm the stock Patton turret is not helpful

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So if you are using it for armor it makes less sense given you get about 0 benefit at the cost of a range of stats

prisma hornet
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Thank you for the clarification, the issue is that the turret upgrades need to demonstrate improvements on the gun. Too often, most tanks unstocked upgrades are not shown. The turret on the M46 patton shows this issue

wise moth
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@prisma hornet The garage does show the improvements that the turret gives

lyric oriole
wise moth
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Well, it used to at least

prisma hornet
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Advanced statistics do not

lyric oriole
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@wise moth it's kinda split now, you have to check both

prisma hornet
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Concealment statistics are even worse.

lyric oriole
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Concealment doesn't change for vehicles

You can add on the base for your camo skill in game to the stationary value

prisma hornet
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the Type 61 and Centurion one have the same concealment statistics, yet the ingame stats show the type 61 has even worse concealment

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I have both tanks, jesus, the Type 61 is one big stinker

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I free XP'ed the hole top gun, but the crewrate massacred the winrate (38%)

edgy dune
midnight anchor
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do tanks with Spaced armor plating like anko bounce Heat shells?

tulip edge
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@midnight anchor the spaced armour makes it much harder for a heat or HE shell to go through.

midnight anchor
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oh thanks I thought is blocked it

woven tulip
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does the hitmap take overmatch into account?

thorn glacier
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@midnight anchor itll usually still get some damage through but it's negligible

north musk
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Team shame Thursday?

tulip sail
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I love those guys

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Free dmg

abstract scarab
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E50M, rammer vs calibrated?

thanks

gentle wasp
#

CS

abstract scarab
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enhanced armor right?

gentle wasp
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actually nah

sharp lion
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No hit points are better

solid gate
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I put more HP on any tank. Though armor could help a bit on tanks already heavily armored I just don’t see the point in using it at all.

sharp lion
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Yeah

broken sentinel
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We just dont know enough about what the armor buff actually does for me to justify using it. I normally just go straight for hit points right now

fringe notch
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@frigid ember I think some players staying mostly at lower tiers is a combination of several things:

  1. They like to feel competent, and winning in very high percentages helps

  2. Identifying and playing only tanks that are strong or even massively overpowered is part of the skill set. They feel that exploiting the mistakes that the Wargaming balancing team makes (like the T1 Heavy getting buffed twice when it was over performing to begin with) is satisfying for them, since it lets them win a lot while making fun of Wargaming at the same time. This kind of gross imbalance was less present in higher tiers before the missile tanks arrived, and the missile tanks tend to be matched against other missile tanks anyway.

  3. If you disable Supremacy battles, and platoon at tier 5, you will be top tier most of the time. For these players, that makes it easier to carry the team.

  4. They hold less-skilled players in contempt and their preferred way to win is to let the nubs rush in and die, then win a 2 vs 5 with their equally-skilled platoon mate. This technique doesn't work at higher tiers where keeping your team mates alive is much more important.

All this adds up to players who are highly-skilled at low tiers, will platoon frequently with other highly skilled players in low tiers, in tanks that are overpowered, to achieve win rates in the 70s and 80s.

gentle wasp
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So what is your solution? Another 5.5 which will be complained about for years to come?

fringe notch
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I don't think a complete solution exists, actually. A couple of things that would make a small difference maybe. Fixing the balance at lower tiers, so you don't have dumb stuff like T1 Heavy side armour being better than KV-1 front armour while all its mobility and firepower stats are also better would help. Changing the matchmaking rules so tier 5 tanks are more likely to be bottom tier in encounter battles might help, but it might push those players into even lower tiers instead.

abstract scarab
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Number 2 suggestion is really stupid. It punishes the new players as well.

pale crow
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Should I sell my AT 15 to get the tortoise? I have already researched it. I have 2.5 million credits. I need 3.5m. selling will give me 1.3m.

solid gate
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if your not gonna collect or play it again sell it

spark marsh
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i was to talk about a Vehicle...but it is rather Controversial

nocturne sage
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I feel like the t32 should get a gun buff

thorn glacier
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Honestly with how easy it is to get an ace in that probably

prisma hornet
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Buffing the T32's dispersion and DPM will help a lot.

Other than that, what's your opinion on the tier 8 polish heavy tank?

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I don't see it often.

thorn glacier
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People see that?

nocturne sage
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I really think the t32 needs a pen buff bc 198 isn’t gonna cut it when other tier 8 heavies have pens in the 220 and maybe a damage buff

The tier 8 polish heavy tank, if it’s the premium one from wot pc it’s probably gonna be a good tank

prisma hornet
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The thing seems to be in development hell, but it exists in game and it's working, almost the Chieftain in WOT PC

solid gate
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so what is this "troll armor"?

queen terrace
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Offering the Badger for 20k gold when rocket tanks can aim & hit that massive top quite easily, it should be way cheaper! No I don’t want it, not all the while there are rocket tanks, thanks 🤣

strange thicket
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I had a seizure comprehending and reading that

queen terrace
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@strange thicket I know someone that got one out of a crate & rocket tanks & that tank are not a good mix!

strange thicket
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That is true but it has good dpm and armor frontally
Use that
It is not completely obsolete against atgms and you can destory any atgm tank with just driving forward at them
Also avoiding missiles takes just moving forward or backwards abit as they are not too fast

sharp spindle
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I'm getting 7.5k gold this weekend, should I get one of the Prems in the store or wait for an offer?

plucky rain
#

fake tank

solid gate
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Rip

kindred wren
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VK 66.00 (h) E-79. Everything wrong with this: Both the VKs and the Es are design designations, you get either or, but not both. The 66 after the VK stands for the vehicle weight - the 79 after the E also stands for the vehicle weight. 66 =/= 79. The E designation doesn’t use dashes, but I guess that is just down to preference at the end of the day. The 00 after the 66 in the VK designation means that it’s design number 00. As far as I know they started by 01. And the first letter of the name of a company is usually capitalised, while countries are non-capitalised. Since I don’t know any German occupied country that starts with ā€˜H’ in German (Hungary is called Ungarn in German) I assume they meant Henschel which is a company

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It also has unusual design proportions for a German tank, such as a heavily angled turret back and unusually much angled sides (both hull and turret). This thing looks a bit like a merge of a Soviet and a German tank

tight void
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@sharp spindle how much gold do you have

sharp spindle
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@tight void I'll be getting 7.5k

tulip edge
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@sharp spindle if you have played and liked the ru 251, the lekpz will be enjoyable to you.

sharp spindle
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I haven't sadly, not up that far in the German LT line yet

calm drumBOT
#

dynoSuccess xDaniel.HGZ#1976 has been warned.

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dynoSuccess xDaniel.HGZ#1976 has been warned.

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dynoSuccess xDaniel.HGZ#1976 has been warned.

echo knot
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German LT...
Rheinmetall Panzerwagen quite interesting.

thorn glacier
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@sharp spindle I wouldn't waste it all on one tank, use some of it for an offer if u want but it's also useful to skip stuff w free/elite xp

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That's just my opinion tho

glacial peak
#

I got a question, in ur opinion which is better, obj140 or t62a

gentle wasp
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62a

glacial peak
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Why

wanton saffron
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It has a better turret, 1 deg extra gun depression, better penetration on shells. Play style is the same for both tanks.

glacial peak
#

So obj140 is only better at speed?

thorn glacier
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and sniping

wanton saffron
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Not significantly, it won't matter that much in the battles. But yeah it is.

gentle wasp
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speed and hull armor

tulip edge
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^

glacial peak
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Prob be going for 62a

gentle wasp
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nice. I have 62a and love it. going for 140 as well since I want to see what it is like, plus the T-54 is a great tank

glacial peak
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Yeah

solid gate
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140 gives you AP as a standard round, a lower profile, and better agility.

weary cypress
#

Powering Bad Designs

tight void
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@sharp spindle save it. There are g o ing to be new premiyms that are going to be better. If not I recommend badger and Le pkz

rancid mauve
#

20k gold for Badger?? Great tank but is it worth that price???

wise moth
#

Not really. The E3 is better

solid gate
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The lower plate of badger kills it.

wise moth
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And it’s not like the Badger is particularly fun to play. Being slow and turretless isn’t exactly a fun combo, at least for me

solid gate
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And it’s not like the Badger is particularly fun to play. Being slow and turretless isn’t exactly a fun combo, at least for me
@wise moth me either.

rancid mauve
#

@wise moth meant to message you about your Maus stream a couple weeks ago. I’m still watching it when when I have breakfast and what not, and I’ve learned quite a bit about the Maus and its angles, role, etc. I had a pretty good idea of how to play it, but was second guessing myself and struggling and you suggested your video. Loved it man! More Maus stuff please!šŸ‘ŒšŸ»šŸ˜…

tulip edge
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Im still sitting on 10k gold, waiting for a good offer

last viper
#

A jadgtiger defender would be cool. Like with an autoloader

edgy dune
gentle wasp
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1300 xp is not a lot

solid gate
#

60 tp premium tank??

radiant coral
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A jadgtiger defender would be cool. Like with an autoloader
@last viper
that would be probably to op

severe swift
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i want a defender that is a light tank

gentle wasp
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next one might be the Ru251 Defender

radiant coral
#

stop giving them ideas (even when they not listening to this server)

gentle wasp
#

nah I want that thing

radiant coral
solid gate
#

Is it worth buying the badger for 20k gold?

gentle wasp
#

nah

last viper
#

ISU 152 defender 2 shot auto loader 30 second mag reload

gentle wasp
#

god no

radiant coral
#

Is it worth buying the badger for 20k gold?
@solid gate
Nope,.. wait for it when itā€˜s going to sold for 15k Gold (imo)

last viper
#

It’s not worth it

solid gate
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But is the badger a good tank, better than ho ri, grille?

gentle wasp
#

yea

solid gate
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Nope

gentle wasp
#

yea it is. not for the money but it is better

radiant coral
solid gate
#

What does the RU Defender look like.

radiant coral
#

And in my opinion, as we can see, that the Jagdtiger is fully perfect

#

What does the RU Defender look like.
You seriously ?

#

Heā€˜s joking by the way

gentle wasp
#

@radiant coral not a joke, many people have speculated that it will be the next defender tank @solid gate no idea, just a theory

radiant coral
#

šŸ—æ..

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Imagine that the Ru defender is going to be faster than any other tank in the game.. ||Cancer||

hearty flare
#

we need a ms1 defender

stiff swift
#

T95 defender... nuff said

hearty flare
#

They would prob just add a clip, reduce the armor and add speed

solid gate
#

Do you all think your funny or something all I’m hearing is crickets

gentle wasp
#

what are you on about

hollow moth
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1°, use diseases as comparassion can get you a warn or a mute, (I already got a warn cuz of this)@radiant coral

2°, speed wasn't changed between tanks and their defender modes

3°, the next defender will probably be RU251 because of some facts:
-all the previous defenders had different types, so no more mediums, heavies or TDS
-all of the previous defenders were researchable tier 8
-IS-3, T28 Prot. and centurion don't have auto loader cannons
So the next defender will probably be based on a tier 8 researchable light tank without auto loader cannon, RU 251 is the only tank with these things

kindred wren
#

I also reckon it's the Ru, but it might prove unsuitable. Another reason why Ru is because Germany is a major nation and still misses one. But it could also be that they just make an AMX 13 with an autoreloader...

balance

hollow moth
#

But AMX 13 already have auto loader... Wait... autoloaded tracks

kindred wren
#

I said autoreloader

#

A re to make them all ree

hollow moth
#

Reee

pale crow
solid gate
fierce oasis
#

hey guys question is the T95E2 any fun at all? i have a offer for it i have the normal for $9.99 and a 14.99 offer for it

lyric oriole
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It's pretty bad, dependent on Prammo, terrible turret (it has the original armor of the 48 Patton, it doesn't have the buffed version).

I would wait for something better if I were you

fierce oasis
#

ok

radiant coral
#

@hollow moth K

hollow moth
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@pale crow legendary camouflages are only worth if you really like the tank

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Because you are spending a good number of all your gold for something that will change your stats as like every other skin can do

pale crow
#

What do you mean change stats?

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@hollow moth

hollow moth
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All camouflages add 2-5% of concealment to your tank, these are the stats that I meant

pale crow
#

Ah. So it would be the same as using normal camo.

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Other than changing the name.

tulip sail
#

Yup all it does is change name and looks

viral lodge
#

yah, there is no point buying the legendary if you wont be playing the tank a ton for a long while and love the look.

hollow moth
#

Lol imagine buy a legendary Camo for a tank and never play with it again

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Ah damn I have a VK 36.01H football skin but I don't play with it since last year

pale crow
tawdry horizon
pale crow
tawdry horizon
#

Wonder how or when I could get more idk

broken parcel
#

same i have a few a-32 certificates and a few wz-120 certificates

pale crow
#

You probably won't be able to. I still have black Friday container tokens from a few years back.

tawdry horizon
#

I have 300 pieces for a kpfPz 70

tulip edge
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I have some parts for a t 34 3 and type 64. I think it was from the containers you could buy with credits, cant remember. I also have some for the kpf too

tawdry horizon
#

What if blitz did something kinda stupid I guess what it would be is if you have pieces for a tank u would get that tank high likelihood of never happening

hot dust
#

Anyone know if and when the mk6 royal is going to be back in shop?

steep basin
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if you answer me you are good people hahaha, you can also answer in private, I need to know from someone expert, the best heavy duty in tier 5/6/7/8/9/10, same thing with light, and with td

hollow moth
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@deft glen nope, mods don't cost and shouldn't even a penny

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Imagine have to pay for modify files of a game, lol

next solstice
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You misinterpreted his term of mod.

merry crow
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increased armor or HP on wz-120

gentle wasp
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Hp @merry crow

deft glen
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@hollow moth Well with the way their file system (blitz) is laid out, It's kinda hard for anyone to make a mod for Blitz anyways.

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Just like what they did with Sheridan, but a little more in depth

nimble ermine
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@hollow moth another point to add to @deft glen idea. The mods that players personally install to the game do not show up for other players. Having a purchase option makes the mod visible to other players. Wargaming could also add a name change like ā€œLeopard 1A2ā€ or something like that. Overall, I think this is a great idea too.

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Also the skin looks beautiful and could be a minor buff to Leopard armor

severe swift
stoic spindle
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The SU-85B is so slooow

solid gate
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the doom turtle is slow

robust crescent
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Does anyone have any tips on the m41 bulldog? I get targeted more then I do with any other tank when driving this and I end up with matches where I do 0 damage.