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#vehicles-discussion
frozen moth
main wharf
Wish I could use global emojis because rn I’d use the one that literally shows a guy hanging himself
tender granite
lmao 😙
ashen monolith
As I was saying, the missiles are quite hard to control, they are slow and as soon as you lose a LOS they shoot in random directions
But yes they can be quite annoying
tender granite
uh huh yup agreed but not if ur a pro with it and simplynavy u need to get a sherdian bruh
ashen monolith
@tender granite yes I agree with that I've managed to pull off some quite interesting trickshits with them
tender granite
same
ashen monolith
Trickshots not the other one...
tender granite
ha u got sherdian or t92e1
ashen monolith
T92e1
tender granite
so close to sherdian got 200k xp
ashen monolith
I only have 50k
tender granite
😋
ashen monolith
Any idea how much they cost?
solid gate
This is a long shot here but every few updates you should add one of the 5.5 tanks back (or just put them in pass luchs or pz38na would be nice).
ashen monolith
Idk if they woyld do that
naive kraken
this influx of 252s is a problem.
lethal sun
is it profitable to buy the T55A?
lucid forge
i hate t55a so no
solid gate
@lethal sun if you like the T-54 and want a version of it that makes more credits, has the best of both 54 guns rolled into one, at the cost of some armor then the T-55 is a decent tank to pick up.
solid gate
Since this vehicle is now a collector (I have it), I would like the Pz. Sfl IVc to be able to use better its gun. With its barriers up its too much of a big target and everyone loads HE. Maybe WG could resell it like this
boreal shell
siege mode but lamer
solid gate
Totally or at least partially open and able to point its gun to left and right, it's a FlaK 88 gun after all, just mounted on modified Pz.4 chassis for better mobility and transport
boreal shell
It’s gun is already great, I don’t think it needs a buff
solid gate
Gun is fine, pen and all parameters, pointing it it's another thing
lucid forge
XDD
ashen monolith
I kinda think it would be fun for wg to add artys to blitz
But probably maps to small for it
tulip sail
Maps are too small and that's one of the biggest complaints about regular wot
lucid forge
My TOG is LE POISON Fish
hollow moth
IS-6 is an angled based heavy tank, what would go wrong? It's simple:
-Normalization angle makes the armor less effective
-The armor isn't that great actually, most of tier 8 cannons can pen you
-It's a heavy tank, so it's very slow, even if the armor is mostly based on angles
-It's a Russian heavy tank, so it have a poor cannon (actually two poor cannons, you can choose between poor DPM or poor pen)
-It still a Russian heavy tank, low view range and have a bad aim
-It's overrated, "no Tommy, your IS-6 isn't the tier 8 Russian Maus, you wasted your money for something that isn't your playstyle"
calm inlet
@hollow moth eh
its actually underrated, everyone thinks its trash and its actually pretty decent
hollow moth
Nice, a skilled player that is good in a tank. Wow
calm inlet
do you have it?
hollow moth
I've tested it in a friends account
calm inlet
i recommend running the DPM gun+rammer to max your damage potential out. it does mean that you’ll load some premium ammo to pen certain tanks, and you’ll need to be able to get to the sides of things like Tiger II’s and E75’s
hollow moth
Yeah, it'll be a problem
tulip sail
I've found it's only bad trying to go head on with other heavies
calm inlet
but trust me, when you pop adrenaline and suddenly your IS-6 is shooting every 8 seconds, it kinda wrecks shop
hollow moth
Wait, 8 secs?
calm inlet
especially against meds that think they can out-DPM you
tulip sail
And that it's quite nice going with the flankers and going anti med
calm inlet
10.2 seconds of reload normally, 8.5 when you use adrenaline
literally no one expects that
its also got the best gun handling of all IS-x tanks at Tier 8
hollow moth
Interesting
tulip sail
Since a bunch of people were complaining about it the other day I dicided to play it again just because and it's still really nice
valid orbit
there's a 252u influx in the server currently. Mostly newbies :/
tulip sail
Means its easy pickings
woven stone
Any tips for playing the Object 252U? I keep losing...
weary cypress
Panhard AML of the Rhodesian Armoured Corps during the bush war from 1964-79
ivory glacier
@woven stone Always sidescrape when possible, go hull down in order to hide the lower plate, always aim your shots and make them count. The reload is pretty long and if you don’t hit you can be rushed. Face hugging is also pretty effective.
Fully equip the tank and put calibrated shells and improved hitpoints, use all 3 provisions, and remember you aren’t invincible even though your in a good tank. Don’t go alone, always make sure you have support from a TD.
weary cypress
solid gate
Thoughts on the american heavy line?
unique shell
for all that is holy i want SP 1 C to have a top speed increase like cmon it goes 58 which is technically relaistic but like the vk 30.01 p goes 60 and the much lighter tank goes slower like??? over all I would like some light tanks have a top speed increase like the amx elc bis, in irl it went 80km not 65 small things like this would make a world of difference for me a light tank main
also wheeled vehicles would be cool :]
weary cypress
yes add panhard AML
lyric oriole
I just Discovered T26E3 has special consumables
atomic void
Yes add strv 103b panhard ebr 105 line and kranvagn
glass otter
The eagle 7?@lyric oriole bruh what
misty wing
I've only seen it once
broken parcel
@woven stone hide lower plate and most tier tens cant pen you
solid gate
Today I played T67 and someone seemed shocked about it. Must have been a new player who’s never seen a T67. I won both games which was nice.
lyric oriole
A lot of the removed tech tree tanks get attention nowadays, although for some reason nobody has ever asked about my Sherman V
boreal harbor
I wish they kept all of the modules on the collector tanks
solid gate
Can we just agree that any tank can be OP depending on the player?
tidal atlas
Yup
lyric oriole
No
lyric flume
Tog
junior widget
any tank can be good depending on the player, but not OP
what would you guys say, IS-4, E3 or E5 line first? i really want the E3 but i am currently on the T28 and pretty stuck, IS-4 seems awesome aswell
calm inlet
skip the T28 honestly
its useless
IS-4 first, then E3, lastly E5. nothing wrong with the E5 line but the IS-4 is a must-have and you already have a lot of progress on the E3 line
solid gate
I didn’t do too great in one of those games in T67 but it was still nice to have won.
distant ingot
Does anyone else have a problem with the Grille, I found it frustrating to play and just returned to the WT auf. PzIV?
glass otter
Its the same playstyle without the gun dep
misty wing
Grille has a barely better gun than the WT but is worse in pretty much every other way
worn swift
Is the Jg. Pz IV's playstyle similar to the rest of the line?
gentle wasp
less so the farther up you go since your armor increases
worn swift
less so the farther up you go since your armor increases
@gentle wasp You worded that in a very confusing way. Do you mean that relative to its tier, Jg. Pz. IV has worse armour than the rest of the line?
gentle wasp
@worn swift precisely
worn swift
If I were to choose one tank to keep from Jg. Pz. IV, JPanther, JP II, Ferdinand and Jagdtiger, which one should I keep?
gentle wasp
they are all pretty nice tanks. i dont have ferdi or Jagdtiger yet but have kept the other ones. all in all i think i enjoyed JPII the most, but jagdtiger seems the strongest right now
haughty moss
Ye Jagdtiger definitely, or if you want so somewhat seal club jg pz iv.
tame jungle
A lot of the removed tech tree tanks get attention nowadays, although for some reason nobody has ever asked about my Sherman V
@lyric oriole I’ve still got my sherman V
worn swift
Is the SU-100M1's playstyle similar to the rest of its line? Just doing some research on TD lines.
glad shore
252u or tiger ii?
kindred wren
Both
winter oar
I have a question about the M18 Hellcat, does the M18 Hellcat have the Black Cat and Super Hellcat modules/parts in it?
little lynx
what are the most important crew skills to go for
tulip sail
Do you mean the 90mm gun?
winter oar
About everything on the tech tree M18 Hellcat
tulip sail
Idk what you mean by "Black cat and super hellcat"
winter oar
Okay okay, so it may not be in the game but there is a M18 Black Cat and M18 Super Hellcat. :V
But in wotb, the tech tree M18 Hellcat is a GMC (Gun Motor Carrier) but it doesnt say that in the text or in game :V
hollow notch
@lyric oriole the Sherman 5 was only in the tech tree for 1 update. May it rest in peace.
little lynx
what are the best crew skills
lyric oriole
Sherman V and FireFly were in the game for several updates.
They were added in 4.4 @hollow notch
@little lynx I can't remember some of the Names off the top of my Head give me a few seconds and I'll write a short list
hollow notch
Oof, all I know is it was added, then removed shortly after
lyric oriole
Precision Fire, Firefighting, Camouflage, Robustness, Clutch Braking, Adrenaline Rush, Repairs, Smooth Ride/Smooth Turret Traverse (these two basically together make a Vertical Stabilizer)
Not necessarily in that order but priotize those ones @little lynx
little lynx
Thanks
hollow notch
@little lynx camoflauge is top priority, then probably precision fire, followed by all the accuracy improvements
swift harness
I find myself stuck between M6 or Churchill VII. M6 got a better and slightly better speed while the Churchill VII’s armor is much more superior. Which one is better?
hollow notch
M6 is superior, the church is pure garbage as bottom tier
little lynx
Is robustness or firefighting better @lyric oriole
lyric oriole
Robustness
hollow notch
Carry double repair kits and those dont do very much
lyric oriole
I do Double Repair kits and Adrenaline on most setups.
Robustness is more useful than Fire Fighting but both are amazing covers for if Either a source of fire extinguishing is on cooldown or both repair kits are.
Adrenaline Rush can also get you out of a sticky situation or two most of the heavy skills are very useful, especially Repairs, fixing a track in a couple seconds is a godsend especially stacked with a toolbox equipment
Close combat master is pretty useless unless you are getting circled by a light, which even then 7% probably won't save you if it's maxed
Also an unpopular Opinion here, but get Mentor up to level 5, it'll help you a lot as a new player for both crew training and skill training
hollow notch
Mentor was the first skill I had maxed :)
lyric oriole
Mentor was my 13th or 14th, I didn't bother until not to long ago to move it past 5 because the gap is so huge between 5 and 6 and it's basically rinse and repeat for 7
hollow notch
I wish I could still dump elite xp into crew skills without credits. Then I could finally finish off the light skills
lyric oriole
I mean you can but only to a certain level
Which did nothing for me when that was added because all my skills were at least level 5
hollow notch
You were able to do it for a while. That is where all my td skills got maxed out.
devout tapir
I need some tips on how to play the T7 French TD please.
ashen monolith
I wish I could help you but I got bored and hated the line at the tier 4 sau 40
I hope that someday I will decide to grind for the foch apparently it is quite good
I think that the tanks in that line t7 and up are good, I recommend that you play it a bit like a jgpz IV since the armour isn't great( either camp at the back or just pop up ove hills take the shot then go back down)
civic terrace
@swift harness with the m6 play hull down is a good practice for the t29
hollow moth
Remember when everyone was blessed about this guy? "It's tottaly pay to win event" they said, now much people got it and also sold it because it's a T23E3 copypasta
hollow notch
It also has 120 apcr alpha compared to the 135 of everything else
hollow moth
Also in the Panther/M10-T23E3 pen buff wasn't effective on it
The AP pen still very low and APCR isn't that all
Probably only noobs and some tryhards still using this, just to show up a tank that none cares anymore
Yeah the DPM, it's a nice medium and with almost the same reload of E25, but why would you love it so much if there is T23E3 or Panther/M10? (It's very understandable if you don't have none of the both)
hollow notch
Comet is better
ashen monolith
I love my e25
signal steppe
its not a t23e3 copypasta @hollow moth
its a weaker cromwell in every single aspect but except buffed dpm, and uptiered.
rancid mauve
What’s this WZ112-2 i keep hearing about for tournaments??
@hollow moth are you talking about the Y5 tanks?! They’re literally the same tanks as their tech tree counterparts but with slightly better DPM and makes credits. 🤷🏻♂️ they weren’t really worth the grind..
hollow moth
@rancid mauve no bro a lot if people said that event was pay to win, that you would need a try hard gameplay to get it and everything else, but bruh it was actually pretty easy and worth, so if I need 1M credits I can just sell this tonk 😂
Yes it's a T23E3 copypasta, no good armor, decent speed, fast shot, decent aim, low pen, etc @signal steppe
Nothing special, just all T23E3 "abilities" in a mutated cromwell
rancid mauve
@hollow moth oh yeah that event was pretty easy, but just needed time. I got the 3 tanks for free from playing the event but had to actually sit down and play lol I have literally two battles in those tanks so wasn’t worth my time really. They look nice though!
hollow moth
Welp, the y5 firefly gave me an aced but nothing special, gonna restore them just to show it up to newbies, lol
glass relic
Well T23E3 uniqueness probably just it's reverse speed.
hollow moth
And the nice legendary skin
glass relic
I actually kinda like T23E3 because the reverse speed always makes me laughing when poking enemies.
reef cape
Is Pz 4 S worth restoring
glass relic
Restoring a premium tonks is always worth it since you'll be able to grind credits with it, and the 4S is a good tank too.
reef cape
Rudy or star wars tank?
glass relic
I'd say Rudy because it's like a better T43
reef cape
Rudy is good but it doesn't match my style and everything can pen me at tier 7 so i really dislike it i heard the star wars tank is worth restoring but does it have good armour? And is it a good credit earner?
glass relic
It does have quite a good armor for it's tier but when you're matched with tier 7, you'll get penned a lot surely... Ofc..
Also every premium tank is always a good earner if you do good with it, especially high damage games.
reef cape
But i heard each tank even prems have a different credit coefficient
glass relic
Yeah you can check them out at Blitzstars for a better information.
If you want a good earner then get a Lowe, or Angry Connor(Archer).. but it'll usually sold on St Patrick's day.
hollow moth
@reef cape hey bro Pz4S is aways worth restore
My fav tier 6 without exception, it can deal with basically every enemy
This new paid re-skin of KV-1S won't be a threat to the German Panzer 4 Schmalturm
glass relic
4S turret is amazing for sure, basically Post buff Panther turret but 40mm less of armor.
hollow moth
There no problem on the ground when the Panzer 4 Schmalturm is around
glass relic
That's a good quote
hollow moth
Best cannon of tier 6 meds, incredible turret (that can hold even shots from some tier 7), spaced armor on the sides that can deal with every HE and a decent speed to chase meds and heavies
Any other tier 6 medium tank have 4.4 secs of reload, the best that you'll get is 4.8 secs from CromB, Y5 firefly, even TOG 2 and others
And the precision is ultra good too, I even have 4 sniper medals on the tank
ashen monolith
Idk why I ever sold my pz4s it's so good
I ended up restoring it anyway so yes 100% restore it
Oh also, should I restore my pz 4 anko so?
glass relic
If you're a GuP fan then I'd say restore it.
solid gate
My T-34-2 sucks at winning this morning. Bad team decisions kicked it off. Really making me mad. But also not having 100% crew doesn’t help.
Chimera has the worst RNG I've ever seen, aside of Kpfpz 70. In Chimera most of the shoots do 360-390 when it's a 127 mm gun, NOT 122 mm
Honestly I’d kinda like to have Chimera but I really don’t need to spend any more money on this game.
@solid gate indeed I took the tank because I had much gold from ads and a little from various chests, never used in many months. It's an OK tank, but I expected better
tulip sail
I want the chimera but not enough to spend a ton bc I know basically nothing about it
next solstice
What equipment for the Jageroo
lyric oriole
This is what I run. I do Calibrated over Rammer so the HE can go through the sides of mediums and some heavies in the unlikely event for a hail Mary
Additional HP because the armor has pretty defined weakpoints that the enhanced armor doesn't really help.
EGLD is just as good, but I prefer not having to lead my shots as far for when I use the HEAT or HE
gentle wasp
opinions on Chimera? (as a tank, the price is not an issue for me)
lyric oriole
It's OP, even after the Heavy tank buff, it has very limited downsides, I would probably say the only real downside is the flat turret
gentle wasp
I've gotten mixed reviews on the turret, from a few short in-battle observations (in low pen meds and lights) it seems really red, but a couple youtube vids make it seem not that great.
lyric oriole
203mm flat is about as Effective as Tiger P's Hull, still pretty good in tier 8.
wise moth
I think it’s kind of irrelevant because of the Skorpion
You get a little more survivability, but way, way less gun stats
lyric oriole
Chimera is one of the better tanks.
In a fight with an experienced player in either tank I'm 100% sure the chimera would win.
I would say Skorpion really only makes T-34-3 irrelevant, Chimera is in a class of its own.
gentle wasp
oh wow. yea I was comparing the Chimera to the T-34-2 since I am currently grinding it, and it seems to have everything that the 34-2 lacks. Gun depression, pen, and gun handling are all pretty important to me and combined with the decent mobility and turret I think it fits me well.
wise moth
Honestly though, there’s nothing all that special about the Chimera. The DPM is extremely weak, the armor is pretty terrible, and it’s not the most mobile medium ever
Compared to a Chinese medium, the gun stats are better, but the mobility and armor are way worse. That’s a mediocre trade at best, and the Chinese meds set a pretty low bar too
lyric oriole
Suit yourself but the player stats don't lie. If the Chinese meds were about in Par with chimera I imagine we would see similar public stats.
T-34-X varients might have a better turret shape but the cheeks are weaker than Chimera let alone also having basically no gun depression. The sides are also not even in the same league, Chimera can avoid being hit by HE shells where as the Chinese meds are in danger.
I would also like to note that Chimera also has way better camo than T-34-3 and Skorpion.
T-34-3 is out classed in Penetration as well, cut your DPM by 20% to use HEAT significantly more often.
wise moth
I don’t think I’ve ever been hit by HE in the side in a Chinese med, so that’s a non issue.
And trying to argue the armor profile vs. Chinese meds is so disingenuous, it’s not even funny. Even when using some gun depression, Chimera turret is paper.
The Chimera stats are only high because it’s an extremely rare tank (the least common tier 8 other than T26E5, and SU-130PM) Once more people get their hands on it, the stats will come down
lyric oriole
You could also own the tank and then form an argument
solid gate
Also now that I realize the real M3 and M5 Stuart Tanks didn’t have autoloaders it makes more sense they gave them single shot guns in or after update 5.5. This is why you do research and don’t rely on the game your are playing to know what you’re really dealing with.
lyric oriole
The armor holds up much better than you would think based on the stats.
You also have to remember it has consumables so even in a brawling situation or a long range situation it can enhance it's abilities beyond what would normally be possible
wise moth
I don’t need to own the tank because I can formulate an argument based on the tank’s characteristics. In fact, owning the tank could only really serve to bias my opinion.
And the only reason why you think the armor holds up is because again, Chimera is an extremely rare tank, and people don’t really understand the armor profile. Once they’re more common, I guarantee you’ll start taking a lot more turret pens
solid gate
Chimera is fake afaik though it is an interesting looking tank with a really big gun for a medium.
I seen one person on the internet claim it’s based off some tank from like 1950 but they don’t show any images of a blueprint or concept. The only real Chimera we know of is a TD with composite armor on I think the upper front.
gentle wasp
yea this td: https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/cold-war-british-prototypes-fchimera-1984/
and yea chimera medium was a blueprint tank
solid gate
Yeah, that Chimera wouldn’t be added because the composite armor on the front.
What tanks in this game have Wargaming made up themselves? I’m not talking about blueprints or concepts but ones they made up in house.
gentle wasp
pretty much the whole hybrid nation
solid gate
Except the FL10 and Strv which the Strv 74A2 should be moved to the Pan-Euro nation now. But Wargaming probably too lazy to do that. Same with FL10.
gentle wasp
isnt m4fl10 egyptian?
solid gate
But the Progettos are fake and the Pantera seems at least semi fake. Panther like hull with a P43 ter like turret on top and 90mm gun.
gentle wasp
blueprint tank
solid gate
@gentle wasp Yes. I think it’s actually M4A4/FL10.
@gentle wasp I don’t think so. Nobody anywhere has said there was even a concept of the Pantera much less the Progettos. The 46 in particular TE (a reliable site most of the time) pointed out as fake.
gentle wasp
yea i read that article about the progetto 46 being fake, but i cant find anything on the pantera other than the WG "historical" section
solid gate
Me neither. If you don’t find a good site without the first few links then you run into unrelated stuff as you go further back/down. It’s crazy.
The P44 Pantera is feasible if the Italians thought of putting a P43 bis turret and gun on the Panther chassis. But I doubt that as they didn’t have the industrial capacity at the time nor the economics.
queen dragon
gentle wasp
1s
kindred wren
The Chieftain is called FV4201, not FV4202. This article doesn’t seem very trustworthy if they can’t even get basic designations right
gentle wasp
what exactly are you referencing
kindred wren
To the link description, but I checked the article and it’s right there, so I guess just a derp...
gentle wasp
oh yea i see it. that is weird because if you click on the link it says fv4201 then. idk
solid gate
FV4202 is clearly not the Chieftain.
gentle wasp
read the article, it does say fv4201 there
solid gate
Which article?
solid gate
Oops. Typo I say.
solid gate
No wonder why I don't do dmg to it...
calm inlet
yeah its lame
rancid mauve
@solid gate pisses me off too when I shoot at flat sides from my Grille and do 0 damage... these tanks get away with murder
solid gate
Hmmm it’s almost like your supposed to aim
rancid mauve
Ha, you’re kidding right? Ever heard of RNG?
low elk
think of sheirdan as a tank without spaced armor
and just the part of the tank that can get damaged
you would have not hit the tank AT ALL
solid gate
Yeah only way you can do 0 damage possible on a sheridan hitting its broadside is by hitting its tracks
rancid mauve
I get all that, and I’ve learned my lesson, but even completely aimed in, RNG can still make your shell shoot the edge of the circle and hit the spaces armour part and/or tracks. Giving you a “bounce” 🙄
low elk
you didnt hit the tank at all
not a bounce
you just didnt hit the tank
RNG made you miss the shell
rancid mauve
Jesus 🤷🏻♂️
solid gate
How much health does the tier 5 AT-2 TD have?
deep kayak
600 @solid gate
solid gate
ok thanks 👍
deep kayak
No prob
tulip edge
Until you meet someone with more than 2 braincells and with 2 hands
solid gate
^😂
violet ivy
Hello guys i hope you are doing well i have a question what is the best tier x german tank ?
calm inlet
Grille 15
definitely
nah its Maus for winrate and the E 100 for damage. both are solid right now
misty wing
I thought your for real meant the grille lmao
The E50M is good too but heavies are kinda the meta now
next solstice
They’re all pretty good rn. The E100 and Maus are absolute beefcakes, the E50m’s a little less chonky but it’s good too, Leopard 1’s got everything going for it except armor, and the JAGEROO’s a big ol boomstick.
And then there’s the grille. Great sniper until you get spotted. Which always happens
misty wing
Grille should get a pen buff and a DPM nerf, along with a mobility buff
north bloom
btw how does HE damage modules exactly?
does it damage all the modules in the tank upon pen or in the surrounding area of the pen?
next solstice
i assume surrounding area of penetration
it is aoe
north bloom
because i hit an e100 on the back hull with hesh and it damaged his everything
solid gate
Loepard and elc, which one is the fastest?
north bloom
leopard cause faster acceleration
solid gate
Nice, time to build leo then
flat pilot
e100 turret need buff
smoky tinsel
Poland tank???
north bloom
old english flag i think
smoky tinsel
gilded jolt
Is it wrong to say the VK 36.01 H armor is kinda troll now? The M6 can't pen the lower front even with the aiming reticle fully focused... I have to use calibrated shells for AP on it or use APCR.
sharp gale
@swift spear
rancid mauve
Opinions on the FV4005 line?! How are the tanks? Couldn’t care less about the Challenger, but what about the Charioteer and up?!
sharp gale
I got the charioteer earlier today and the high gun is 55k xp which is about what I paid for the tank. They’re he magnets and until t9 they’re low damage, ok fire rate and a big target so it will be hard. But the 4005 is very good in skilled hands and unloading a whole mag into someone is devastating. I don’t think I’ll finish it though
rancid mauve
@sharp gale were you using the HESH gun though!? That’s how you bump up the DPM. I’m looking forward to getting the big boy 4005.
sharp gale
I was not using the top gun. The stock one is a 5 second reload for around 200 damage without much accuracy. Yes it’s a starter gun but the next one isn’t much of an upgrade and I’ve never been one for the British fast reload small damage guns. I feel like all of the British vehicles share a theme of tier 5-9 they’re all just horrible but their 10s are good. I mean look at the AT line. But if you’re ready to play below average tanks for a pay off then go for it
My only frustration is that my charioteer is the first target for smashers rhms and 152s and although spall liner says it reduced 20% of he damage. I often take 900 from an unspotted enemy then I’m just a tap from being destroyed
steady skiff
How do you find IS-5? Imo it is decent at best because of okay-ish armor and baaaaaad gun handling. My best game so far is this one.
rancid mauve
@sharp gale I hear you loud and clear about the British lines! Exception being the Black Prince which is just hilarious haha I think you should still give the top gun on Charioteer a chance because it has 175mm HESH pen for 440 avg damage. That’s an amazing amount of pen. The Standard B for example has 112mm HE pen at tier 9 and it works great. But you’re right that the Charioteer is an HE magnet and that’s off putting for a lot of people
low crag
@gentle wasp Pantera is certainly fake
also
https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww1-france-renault-char-dassaut-18hp-renault-ft-development/
shameless advertisement of TE
(new article)
rancid mauve
@calm inlet I had a battle where I blocked several thousand of damage lmao it was hilarious. 1v3 situation where there was a Y5 Bis shooting my rear but couldn’t pen lol
hollow moth
This thunder is such a false idol, nothin' that my Panzer IV Schmalturm can't deal
If the Schmalturm is on the ground, there is no T6 problem around!
rancid mauve
Go hull down then. Turret is quite nice and the hatch is obviously a massive weak spot so just keep wiggling and moving while hull down and you should be fine
glass crypt
gonna be honest the challenger is my second most enjoyed tank, ignoring enemy armor and being a long crom is nice
hollow notch
The stock challenger is a togified Cromwell
glass relic
You're not running on max crew and double rations i guess.
glass relic
Well that's probably why it's so bad, for me the tank is quite decent and mediocre for it's tier.
tawny flame
IS 3 got so power creeped, sad it wasn’t as strong
violet ivy
Which American tier x tank ia the best ?
thorn glacier
Best way to get a 36.01h with a bad tier V or VI is to HE straight down on their back
@violet ivy best American tier x imo is 11O34
glass relic
E3,E5 and sherry probably.
lyric oriole
@rancid mauve I know it's been a bit but the FV4005 line is all pretty good, save for the Charioteer which is kinda bad. FV4005 has 1380 clip potential and like the tier 7-9 it has the Spall Liner provision which makes almost every HE shell under 152mm do the same damage as AP
solid gate
I know the whole autoreloader thing is nice but I now think they should have used the Leone and OF 40. Now the tier 8 I don’t know what would be.
misty wing
Bruh the challenger is easily the worst in the line
solid gate
Challenger/Avenger isn’t easy to play but arguably better than AT 8 and AT 7. Why? Because more mobile and has a fully traversing turret.
gentle wasp
not saying much lol. I did not enjoy it.
solid gate
Neither did I but it’s not the worst tank imho.
gentle wasp
agreed.
solid gate
Worst tank for me personally may or may not be the JagdPanther II. Gah I hate that tank. I hate it more than the Ferdinand and the Ferdinand isn’t great either just because it’s slow(ish) and it’s armor is flat in most if not all places. Ferdinand really needs an armor buff imo. Not a major one but just enough to make it get bounces just a bit easier. Getting troll bounces in the current Ferdi is hard.
You can say I was playing Ferdinand wrong and being too aggressive with it but even being more passive won’t work well either.
gentle wasp
Oh what I loved the JgII.
solid gate
I just cannot get around the 6 degrees of gun depression. It’s crap for such a big vehicle. Mobility schmobility. That doesn’t save it from getting ripped apart. Typical low HP for TDs.
gentle wasp
I didn't find that too bad, the gun is amazing. i kind of played it like a med because the mobility is nice.
solid gate
Eh I don’t see it as a medium play style tank for one simple reason. You don’t have a turret. I don’t remember what the traverse is but it’s probably lower than most mediums track traverse speeds too. It’s just a big fat juicy target waiting to get slapped back to garage as soon as it is spotted.
gentle wasp
not really, as long as you get a good spot where you can hide the lower part you can rip apart meds. the traverse is pretty nice, good enough to not get circled.
solid gate
Though there are arguably worse TDs.
gentle wasp
arguably? i think its one of the better tech tree tds
solid gate
Honestly I’d rather the JP II be less mobile and have more armor.
gentle wasp
then you are just trending toward a ferdi. whats the fun in having two similar tds like that
solid gate
Not necessarily Ferdinand slow but still slower than it is. The armor is useless and I’ll never like the thing.
gentle wasp
the armor is in no way useless. if you are using it like a ferdi then yes it wont bounce much
solid gate
Actually the JP II would be better than Ferdi if it had better armor than it does as it is sloped while Ferdi’s is flat. It doesn’t have to be as thick base wise because of the angling.
gentle wasp
it might already be better than Ferdi. It does not need an armor buff.
solid gate
You cannot hide the weak front plate of a JP II man. It’s impossible to with that crap gun depression.
gentle wasp
it is very possible. you are just playing it wrong
solid gate
Well I disagree that it’s “one of the best TDs” because the armor is junk except the casemate but who’s gonna shoot that? Nobody!
Honestly I’m not playing it right now by the way. Because the past showed me how crappy it is to me. Tried it like twice. Hate it.
gentle wasp
again you have to hide the casemate.
wise moth
It's still mobile and got a solid gun
solid gate
I would need to make special modifications to the JP II to make it effective for me.
wise moth
Not as strong as a Skorpion of course, but it's not a terrible TD
gentle wasp
sadly WG is unlikely to adjust it just to satisfy you
solid gate
Ferdinand has the same dang gun and better armor. Not quite good enough armor because flat but Ferdinand is the better tank if only slightly. Both honestly suck.
@gentle wasp I didn’t say they modify it. Give me the tools to do so.
gentle wasp
oh so you want to be able to perform buffs and nerfs?
solid gate
Only way I’ll ever like the tank is to have add ons like appliqué armor not that the tank had it historically but whatever.
And what’s so scary about a JP II when a medium doesn’t need to flank it and you have bigger TDs like ISU-152? I don’t think it’s that scary to mediums.
@wise moth Skorpion is nice though does take skill as it has no armor. But it does have a turret so......
solid gate
What do you think of amx 13 75?
gentle wasp
it sucks
solid gate
you think ?
glass relic
Imo it's quite a fun tank because having a nice mobility with low silouhette, and 10s magazine reload is nice, even though there are many lights way better than 13 75, but i enjoyed myself playing that tank.
wise moth
13 75 is kinda weak sauce now, especially since T71 is better in literally every way
sharp gale
I got the ferdi way back before the jp2 was an option. And yeah the jp2 isn’t great but the ferdi was much worse. I feel like the whole game is streamlined so one line doesn’t have 2 tier 8s that go to the same tier 9 and nowhere else but here we are
tepid smelt
I enjoyed 13 75 too but 13 90 is just sad with its pen that’s like merely better than the t49 HEAT
thorn glacier
Ferdi and Jp2 might be bad but nowhere near as bad as 28 prot imo
The second you get to tier 9 battles EVERYTHING can front pen you and it's slow asf, only good thing was decent reload
solid gate
T28 prot is poop
lyric oriole
@misty wing that was a typo in my end, I meant to say Challenger
mortal junco
ISU-152 122 D-25 gun really need a penetration buff cus it almost can't pen anything in tier 8 and 9
glass otter
Thats why you free xp the BL-10
mortal junco
I don't have the money
thorny mulch
Don’t worry keep grinding with the 122. It isn’t the worst gun and you’ll do fine. And don’t research the tier 9 gun yet!
hollow moth
Primo Victoria for blitz, when?
low elk
the dude 30 (a mod) wants it as well
but its extremely hard to mod the original skin into blitz
solid gate
SU 152 its à monster
lyric oriole
The BL-10 isn't that Inaccurate
The BL-10 is pretty well balanced for tier 8, ISU isn't really a sniping tank as much as it is a second line tank
solid gate
@thorn glacier Ah! You’re right! I forget about that piece of garbage.
thorn glacier
Hellcat was so fun and then I got there and I cried and abandoned the line
solid gate
Hellcat fun? I don’t think so. The turret is slow to traverse. Lights do it better.
glad egret
ikr
lyric oriole
Hellcat is actually pretty fun
low elk
hellcat is good
thorn glacier
It's a highly mobile sniper
glad egret
take walker for example, if ur gonna do a light tank with 0 armor and can be he'd from anywhere, might as well do it speedy
solid gate
I prefer Jackson though the Jackson could use better armor now. Not too much but enough to make it troll enough.
glad egret
yea, same here
lyric oriole
Jackson has some mean DPM for tier 6
low elk
keep in mind that hellcat hull is only 13 mm thick
lyric oriole
It's one of the underdogs of tier 6
tulip sail
Tbh I really enjoyed both tanks but I like the m36 more simply because aesthetics
low elk
its strong tank
but falls behind because noobs dont know how to run it
lyric oriole
Armor is actually pretty good on the Jackson, it's not something you can be brainless with but it's pretty decent
tulip sail
I've seen a lot of people try playing it like a light and raging
glad egret
yea, i did good with jackson
broken turtle
any new tutorial for vk 30.01d?
lyric oriole
Don't play it if you don't have to, it's very bad. The DPM and gun handling are mediocre, and the armor and modules are weak.
swift harness
VK 30.01 can snipe in tier 6 match but it doesn’t really have any armor so just try to score as much dmg and get as much research points as possible to move up to panther
I am getting either the VK 30.01 P or the VK 36.01 H. The stats for the tank doesn’t really matter I’m just wondering if I should go for the Tiger 1 or the Porsche tiger. Which tiger is better?
broken turtle
bruh im going to the vk 30.02 d to see how bad it is
calm inlet
its even worse
lyric oriole
Tiger 1 is currently better; tbh, the whole line is better than the other german heavy lines.
@broken turtle make sure you have your estate settled first. Would you like me to write anything on your Epitaph?
calm inlet
Panther rips it apart
broken turtle
@lyric oriole oh why
lyric oriole
It's that bad
It's like bringing a tier 5 into tier 7 but giving it tier 7 health. The heavy buffs haven't helped it's case
broken turtle
is it better than the easy 8
lyric oriole
Easy 8 is good
broken turtle
i've spent tons of money to make e8 better
lyric oriole
VK 30.02 D makes it's predecessor look mediocre and not in a good way
broken turtle
and how to play the vk 30.01 d? it has the worst view range in the game
lyric oriole
I can't say anything good for that tank, just try not to suffer too much
swift harness
I don’t know I really just thought VK 30.01 d was a good tank and I played how I usually play and I got enough research points to get panther
broken turtle
bruh i found out it's the worst medium i've ever played, slow turret traverse speed, worst view range, the speed isn't good if no good provision,...
swift harness
It’s going to be a tough time to play the tank without provisions
broken turtle
i use cheap provisions
solid gate
Wg should add this to game M22 light tank
solid gate
this would be a meme in wot blitz
unique shell
I'm low key angry about the m3 light prem tank, I've compared armor, horse power, weight, and every thing that should made it reasonably faster. And from my findings is that they've decided to make a low res almost carbon copy of the tech tree tank, make it have a higher top speed WITH THE SAME ENGINE put it in a higher tier with the lower tier turret and gun bc it has a higher top speed and charge $4 for it like c'mon that's just bad >:[
lyric oriole
@unique shell it's been in the game since 2015 I think
It was the free gift tank for Either Christmas or Blitz' Birthday and had been available Several times.
The tank existed long before M2 Light, M3 Stuart, And M5 Stuart. If anything they are all copied off it 😂
unique shell
oh ya ik it was around before but still
novel locust
Hi guys how do i play the vk 100.01?
hollow moth
WZ-110 have a good 100mm cannon, same DPM of Löwe, you won't have problems to penetrate your T8 enemies and the dispersion isn't that bad (0.310 with 100% crew, both combat rations and refined gun equipement. It's good if you compare with other heavies). The mobility is pretty decent and... Welp the armor...
This is the WZ-110 armor against tier 8 cannons
Use enhanced armor equipement never made so much sense
The upper plate can have more than 300mm armor because it have 70 degrees of angle
But because of normalization, the armor will still around 280mm, still veeeeery high
So gonna ask now: are the Chinese heavies subestimated? Why the answer is obviously yes?
thorn glacier
If wg really tried they could add an AT-AT from star wars
It'd have to be a bit tiny but like
hollow moth
Eeeeeeeerm.... @thorn glacier
Say hello to Panzer IV Schmalturm (-0-), known as Panzer IV Starchaser too
Without considere the normalization angle, tell me 3 tier 8 tanks that can penetrate this upper plate (unless skorpion, SU-130PM, ISU-152 and extremely high pen TDs)
Lol only 3 more degrees and it's 340mm armor
hollow moth
Not even ISU-152 have enough penetration to penetrate this upper plate without normalization angle and calibrated shells
WZ-110 is doubted too much, if it was a russian or german tank, would be oberrated
thorn glacier
@hollow moth I mean the whole walker
hollow moth
APCR normalization angle is -2 degrees so... It still a high armor even for ISU-152 with BL-10, the average pen of this prammo is 319mm and WZ-110 armor at 68 degrees is 322mm.
Welp, Panzer IV Starchaser is the most near of a star wars vehicle @PalractusBeach#0707
This armor is just 100% incredible
tiny narwhal
Any information about the upcoming British light tanks?
sleek trellis
oh no
prisma dagger
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faint ginkgo
again
solid gate
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solid gate
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grand juniper
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unreal comet
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fiery socket
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languid steppe
next up is #maps-discussion
solid gate
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timid forge
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dusk estuary
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tiny roost
jaunty magnet
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fringe crow
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solid gate
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sleek trellis
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prisma dagger
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maiden sparrow
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solid gate
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abstract pelican
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plucky summit
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hallow stratus
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spice ice
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kindred cape
Starboy stop
pulsar marsh
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latent moth
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viscid granite
@communityhelpers
solid gate
raiders simps
wanton pumice
nmsl
solid gate
just mute the server until the problem is resolved
acoustic bobcat
Ban star boy
faint ginkgo
ban?
analog oasis
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thorny valve
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versed lichen
What the
austere sage
wtf
minor meteor
Wtf
dusk estuary
@Ashen_JN#2570 my mom is not dead yet
mossy notch
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gaunt orchid
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solid gate
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hazy jetty
These guys are pssing me off
north bramble
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thorny mulch
Star boy and his accs
pulsar marsh
its kids
wind iris
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brave ether
stop
potent kite
#2570
prisma dagger
breh
signal grotto
I think the mods have enough pings already...
torpid shoal
Wtf?
summer swallow
Wtf
viscid granite
Useless MODERATORS
solid gate
Wtf is happening
rancid herald
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terse oar
time to mute the server
keen pond
hello
dry kite
yes
cedar plank
can someone talk to that starboy
unkempt warren
lmao kym
hallow stratus
<@&481447501690568709>
unreal comet
Raid i hate this dude
pastel star
The mod team is grossly incompetent
sleek trellis
looks like hackers attacking
signal grotto
also wtf how slow is the mod response??
velvet zephyr
This is my first time talking to you and I watching downfall
atomic crypt
Avreed
viscid granite
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solid gate
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pulsar marsh
@viscid granite its a hacker bro
signal jay
lol
dry kite
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rancid herald
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timid spindle
ping if youre gay
prisma trail
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faint ginkgo
yes
torpid shoal
<@&481447501690568709> stop
compact wraith
yes buff the leo and no raid
high marsh
Chat flooding ?
cedar plank
lets spam him then
atomic crypt
Dont😀 thatll agravate him and get you in trouble
pulsar marsh
he keeps comming its a hacker bro di j untherstand i was hacked i ling time ago like this
solid gate
Ikr
viscid granite
Useless MODERATORS
velvet zephyr
spiral moth
The mods said that they will ban anyone who continues to spam the mods
faint ginkgo
wow'
abstract pelican
just mute the discussions lol
pallid torrent
All the starboys needa commit get life
cedar plank
@torpid orchid bruh, its that guy
gusty shoal
Banned lmao
summer swallow
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pulsar marsh
lifless mirons
abstract pelican
they're bots they don't have a life
cloud thistle
Hah
stuck plank
d
spice ice
Special Thanks to the moderators for taking so long
dry kite
lol
velvet zephyr
Who watch downfall guys?
summer swallow
Pay them for faster work
solid gate
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pulsar marsh
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fresh orchid
lol
summer swallow
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high basin
Wow
pulsar marsh
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broken sentinel
summer swallow
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broken sentinel
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lilac schooner
Who are these faggots?
tardy yacht
For real
solid gate
.-.
tardy yacht
NUT
lilac schooner
They pinged like 34 of me
random tartan
pinged 37 times
crude gorge
a ping raid prob
zealous anchor
Help what is happening is the world ending
hardy sparrow
@velvet zephyr a guy hired spam bots to rise the server
rough dagger
Rip mods getting pinged like crazy at 2 in the morning
calm inlet
extremely
calm drumBOT
JaianBlack#5779 has been warned.
rich tangle
:B
broken turtle
that's illegal u can't put minecraft video in blitz
urban kiln
What is the name of t44 special camo?
urban kiln
Ok thanks@calm inlet
rancid mauve
It’s not too exceptional though
wraith drum
I much prefer the playstyle of the Grille as opposed to the JgpzE100 but if I had to recommend a tank to someone I'd recommend the JgpzE100
hollow moth
Go for Jagdpanzer E100 @solid gate
It have better stats than grille in a lot of things
Armor, penetration, damage, elevation/depression, etc
And the playstyle is much easier, you don't need to worry about HE
forest rock
it’s such a bad tank
hushed shadow
Better than making it OP and then never nerfing it
hollow moth
It's not even OP or bad, it's literraly a slower KV-1S with 40mm more frontal armor
Cannon still the same, the bad precision still the same and it still slow anyways
Also the armor still very penetrable for tier 6 cannons, about 120-130 armor isn't a problem if you don't aim like a noob
The playstyle don't even change
stiff ruin
wow I have been tagged loads
zealous sluice
pings
tulip edge
I mean what did you expect for 5 bucks
tiny plume
it’s not rubbish, it bad in it
kind bluff
American line actually cracked
vast lynx
But the world of tank bliztz, why not have a modern tank from the 70s to the present
heady lintel
What about the Kpzf 70? wasnt that a collaboration between germany and USA?
solid gate
The kpzf 70 was developed during the 1960s or you can say the cold War era. Blitz has only stuck to WWII to cold war tanks. With the exception of tanks like scavenger, smasher, etc.
Can we have this Matilda BP?
distant sphinx
How tf do you run thunder
lyric oriole
You don't play overly aggressive, it's a defensive tank
distant sphinx
I've been so unsuccessful. In it holy cow
I thought it would be a frontline. But holy cow it's terrible in ky opinion
hollow belfry
You got 10 degrees of gun depression in a russian tank, use it
distant sphinx
Thats basically the only thing going for it
valid orbit
The same way to play T49 is like how to play the bulldog? Drive around, wait for a chance to sneak a big HE shot and run away after that? 😄
calm inlet
basically except the Bulldog has to get multiple shots off per relocation or you’ll never get any damage
viral lodge
Bulldog is more of an active fighter isnt it? (cause its a dpm not alpha tank)
leaden talon
M103 is awesome stock, change my mind I dare you
solid gate
Don't forget that the thunder has more cheek armour and combined with the depression makes it excellent at hull down. Be mindful of the humongous cupola tho
hollow belfry
@distant sphinx you have pretty good pen and high alpha with decent turret armor wdym
stiff sphinx
Funny how all the chinese heavy tanks have a weak part in the bottom front
viral lodge
have a weak part in the bottom front
Isnt that all heavies tho
calm inlet
except Tiger II lol
tame siren
@vast lynx google type 74 😉
Ah sh!t here we go again
GuYs WhAt Do yOu tHiNk aBoUt ShErIdAn?
tulip sail
@solid gate we have a few more modern tanks than the 60s such as the chieftain mk6
snow raft
the wz121 doesnt have a legendary camo right?
low elk
nope
snow raft
only the wz113?
low elk
WZ 113, the tier 10 TD thing, the WZ121B, WZ1115A
snow raft
so i picked the only line without legendary camo :/ (still love the tank tho)
low elk
just mod it
low elk
r/wellthatsucks
im thinking of making a WZ121 skin but its gonna take a long time
snow raft
i have a friend who could help with it tho, ty for your time :3
plucky merlin
Vk72 e100 or maus which heavy is the best one?
glad egret
e100 or maus
viral falcon
Vk for me, but to play it effectively, you need perfect armour knowledge and understanding of that tank.
plucky merlin
Vk has 2 weakspots at the sides right which makes sidescraping not very good?
tulip edge
Maus
lofty saddle
Anyone got any advice on the E50M? I thought I mastered this tank but today I did several games with this tank and I had a lot of trouble to make big scores
I have only ~2050 dmg with him today
lyric oriole
Aggressive play, against other mediums, defensive against heavies
slow vessel
Is this a glitch ?
calm inlet
whats the glitch
solid gate
Seems ok to me
boreal shell
I think it’s he unlocked the module. If you unlock to module for one tank you get it for all the others
very common for British line
pastel drum
@calm inlet I think its this.
crude leaf
just might be lol
lyric oriole
Stonks
tight bone
Guys I’m new to this game which tanks do u recommend to build and develop? I used to play other tank games tho
lyric oriole
Go down the E100 line, the whole line is absolutely solid right now. It's a very good beginner line
jagged linden
Is this a glitch ?
No
calm inlet
@slow vessel it shows the collective alpha damage of the magazine, which is 900 (90x10)
so the bar decreases a ton but it still says the damage increases because it does, per shot
slow vessel
Ohh
ashen monolith
@tight bone here are tanks I recommend:
Easy TD:obj 268
Easy Heavy:maus/e100/is7
Easy Medium:leopard 1
Easy light:sheridan
inland osprey
Not sure about you, but I think the Leopard 1 is anything but easy
glass relic
I'd say E50M is an easy medium or T62A
ashen monolith
@glass relic yes true
I found the Leo quite easy to get to, the ru251 is just fun
unborn monolith
Can u nerf derp tank HP?
glass relic
And thus you meet Stock Leopard PTA
ashen monolith
Go on WG add the obj 279 I know you want to ;)
Seriously tho, pls add the EBR from WoT
worn swift
@ashen monolith The maps aren't open enough or large enough for the top end of the EBR line. EBR 105 goes 100km/h.
Also, I realised that Jg. Pz. IV has more DPM than E 25 lol.
unborn monolith
@worn swift In paper, yer; but effective DPM are not as high as that stat... XD
hollow belfry
E 25 gets APCR as standard ammo with workable pen, very good mobility, camo and accuracy while giving up a bit of armor. Tier for tier, I’d pick up the E 25
abstract scarab
I might do E100 line next just cuz Tiger II and E75. How's the stock grind?
hollow belfry
For the Tiger II... eeh just get the turret asap
abstract scarab
Gotcha. Got around 50k free xp atm so I should be ok.
calm inlet
yeah you’re good
abstract scarab
@calm inlet should I do Tiger I or Panther line? Both goes into Tiger II
distant fulcrum
Both are really good tanks. Do you have e 50 m? Are you planning on it? Let that decide for you
abstract scarab
Don't have that. But I might grab it.
distant fulcrum
Great medium tank, I don’t have it, but I’ve fought it. Quite fast for all its armor, and camp looks good.
*camo not camp
abstract scarab
Yep.. I usually xp skip tier 1-4 and start the grind at 5. But Leopard has been nerfed hard.. is it viable with full prammo or still can't pen anything?
distant fulcrum
I don’t know, I don’t usually carry pramo, but I should. Pramo seems to have better penetration by a long shot, but it still will have trouble penning some things.
tawny flame
how good is the Thunder? 5 more levels and i’m good to go
tiny plume
good
ashen monolith
It's very good
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tawny flame
ohh very nice
thank you! x3
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tiny plume
One more level
ashen monolith
@tawny flame no prob
vague steppe
guys, wanna ask. what's the best Seal clubbing tanks to fix damaged WR?
help my WR is really damaged
abstract scarab
5 or 7. T1 Heavy for 5, T29 and Black Prince for 7. JPanther is good as well for 7.
vague steppe
Is the SU-100 a good seal clubber?
abstract scarab
No idea. I don't use Soviet other than Thunder.
vague steppe
I already got some of the Meadsy69's Seal clubbers selections in tier III-IV but seems like WG hate me
abstract scarab
Those tanks are great for tier 7. Pick one. I don't do many 5s other than T1 Heavy unless I'm grinding. But T1 Heavy is very good, broken even.
vague steppe
yeah I've met a lot of those tanks in battles
but I didn't follow any of the lines for the following tanks
abstract scarab
I would say T1 Heavy honestly, if you're wanting low tier. Slap on enhanced armor and it's unpennable by half of tier 5.
Don't be that noobie that uses increased hp.. lol.
vague steppe
Im searching for more lower tiers though. like Tier III-IV so my credit wouldn't be sucked for repairs
I'm grinding my way for another Tier VIII (Tiger II) but I'm fixing my WR too so it's a double headed battle
abstract scarab
Uhh... M8 Stuart is good. Cruiser III/IV, BT-7.
But I don't play much below 5. Mostly a 7/9 guy here. Made an exception for Thunder but haven't used it much since the 1st day I unlocked it.
vague steppe
https://www.blitzstars.com/player/asia/ComerCore_Itz
u can see my stats here, Its too hard for me
calm inlet
oof
thick trout
@vague steppe Don't sealclub, learn to play well instead of relying on op tanks.
solid gate
Here is a idea give the KPFpz70 ATGMS it has a XM105E4 gun which is the same series as the sheridan gun and it can shoot rockets in real life so if your gonna add broken missles y not have them on all the modern tanks? So you can ruin the matchmaking at t9-10 even more
kindred wren
That is the weirdest combination of a request for a buff while also hating on the buff
Also, the KpfPz 70 has the XM150E5 gun, the XM551 Sheridan proposal has the XM150E4 and the T92E1 has the XM150E3 gun
(Which I think is funny)
viral lodge
How about no I own the Kpf and dont want it getting ATGMs just give it a little more depression and maybe some HE damage
solid gate
I own the kpf...
And I want to know if I really want to invest my time into the sheridan line
pastel drum
don't. We don't need more players with atgms
kindred wren
The Sheridan line is full of interesting and/or strong tanks. You won’t torture yourself by grinding it
solid gate
Yeah I’m on bulldog rn
Just wanted to know to go for missle silos or autoloader caus I like heavys
A20 then go for t62a or if it’s your first ever line go for is7
distant fulcrum
Sheridan line is fun because of dpm in the Chaffee and Bulldog, and then the 152 mm gun with the t49.
Plus the speed of all the tanks.
hollow moth
Nice job bro @solid gate
I wish you become stronger and increase your knowledge about tonks
distant fulcrum
A20 is such a fun tank, high damage for such a fast tank with troll armor.
tiny plume
it’s because bad teams
I calibrated at 2900 because of teams, usually calibrated at around 3600
wise moth
Imagine not winning all 10 and calibrating at 4600
tiny plume
stop bullying
iron zephyr
lmao
tiny plume
I’m a noob ok
glass relic
What kind of stats?
Well i mean what confuses you?
Like for example tanks gun aim time and dispersion values?
wise moth
@solid gate Don't worry about those percentage stats. No one knows what they mean
glass relic
The percentage isn't... Easily understandable but there is like a second option to look at the tank stats, well mostly are variable so it's easy to understand
viral lodge
just go look at the actual stat page and not the summary, way easier to read and better data
glass relic
There is a YouTube for starters to learn the basics about tanks statistics and such, you can check it out yourself to understand the basics.
Also yeah the summary isn't the best way to know how is the stats on your tanks and such.
viral lodge
So TDs and Lights/Meds
What lines are you playing currently?
Id avoid the KV-2, its a meme, its accuracy is a joke, Alpha is its one good thing also dont play the british AT line
low elk
get the 107 unless you want to meme in the kv2
glass relic
Well what panzers :P there's a lot of panzers, and don't try to suffer yourself on AT line.
viral lodge
Mobile sniper sounds kinda like the British turreted TD line for some tanks
Which lingo, im happy to explain
glass relic
The 4005 line is a flexible TD line if you want to have a good mix or gun and speed.. for sniping and getting into good early sniping position.
The British AT line isn't something that you'll like, avoid it... (Alecto line)
viral lodge
AT means anti tank, AT line means,Alecto, AT 2, AT8, AT7, AT15, Tortoise, FV25b 183
rigid totem
And tracks are the unique songs that each tank commander releases
glass relic
There's a forum... If you want to do research.
viral lodge
This game isnt complicated enough for books lol, there are youtube videos I guess, and oprah wth
rigid totem
So when you "track someone", you send them your song
viral lodge
Ignore oprahs btw blast
rigid totem
I guess jokes aren't welcome. 😦
glass relic
Well you can change his mind off course
So he'll be more confused
viral lodge
Oprahs they are already confused about blitz lingo, wrong time and place.
glass relic
I wonder how can he get confused by Blitz that much.
Well you eventually will understand progressively through playing the game itself.
I started to understand the game after i reach tier 7, even though I already have some tank games background knowledge, it takes time to understand most stuff, but most importantly.. try to have fun at first because... You'll meet the stressfull times.. sooner or later
God now i remembered getting 1 shotted by KV-2 frontally because it HE penned my either cupola or overextended cheeks on my ARL-44...
kindred wren
Appalled is negative
viral lodge
Just dont rush to tier 10
kindred wren
Impressed or delighted would be positive
craggy briar
Understanding is overrated. Just rush up the tiers, buy some premium/collector tier X and have fun. I recommend the Bat-Chat. It is great as a beginner tank.
glass relic
Well the BC line is quite a good line to learn auto loaders with fast mobility and no armor with limited gun depression and elevation cause of the turret...
kindred wren
I think the Bat Chat is too easy to play; as a new player you should have something of a challenge so you can learn more. I would recommend the FV 4005 or the FV 215b 183
glass relic
I'd say 183 is the best way to enjoy yourself.
solid gate
Is the 183 really that bad compared to the 4005?
gentle wasp
its bad compared to anything really
kindred wren
The 183 is trump compared to any other tank
viral lodge
FV4005 is great but requires decent skill to use and not get nuked, its more of an HE magnet than the Grille
gentle wasp
unless you use spall liner
kindred wren
You're losing? Play a 183 - trump - card. Easy win
You're not getting that one guy killed? 183-trump and you are the winner of the winners
viral lodge
even with spall liner you are still going to get lol penned by everything
solid gate
Oh so trump means good
viral lodge
Lux you want a new person who barely understands the game to go up the AT line as their first line???
gentle wasp
well yea but it will make HE and AP pens basically the same. you still have zero armor but it helps you not get hit for 1200
wise moth
Spall liner isn't meant to reduce pen, but it reduces HE damage such that for basically all guns except 13cm+ guns, AP will do more damage than HE @viral lodge
kindred wren
@viral lodge It's a solid line. In fact that solid that it can barely move
viral lodge
I know that, Im just saying you are still going to get hit for big damage regardless and you arent going to bounce anything
craggy briar
For every shell you take, just put a bigger one back, @viral lodge.
wise moth
It's not going to be big damage though, it's just marginally more than normal for really big guns
solid gate
With the at line, you put 30 back before they put one
hollow belfry
AT line has peashooters until you have a full tortoise. So you’re only putting back a most likely smaller one
viral lodge
I cant tell if Gamble is joking or actually serious
kindred wren
It's always a gamble, huh?
solid gate
I mean if you don't get one shot it's a good technique I guess
viral lodge
FV4005 is a great line but the FV4005 is not a forgiving tank to play lol
kindred wren
Tier six to eight isn't even that good
viral lodge
Tier 8 is quite good...
kindred wren
It's like playing medium tanks, but, you know, with bad gun handling
viral lodge
Its like a rev that sacrificed traverse stats for HESH
kindred wren
And gun handling, armour and hp
viral lodge
Its a tank, it does the job, does better than other counterparts not that it has many
craggy briar
What you mean, @viral lodge??? The guns are big, and that tall one at tier X put three bigger ones back at them. They can’t shoot back in time.
viral lodge
Charioteer is a T8 Hellcat lol, and as far as trading for that line trading is viable, and sometimes you want to take one to clip a lone tank, but that mindset gets you clip down infront of an enemy team
kindred wren
I don't know which counterparts you mean, because the Revalorisé does better
craggy briar
And Charioteer has a bigger gun than Hellcat too. So what you talking about??
viral lodge
Charioteer is a fine tank, it exists, its not broken and it doesnt suck..
kindred wren
No, the Charioteer is nothing like the Hellcat, the Hellcat is actually accurate for its tier, has a higher top speed by 17 kph and it also has good dpm on its standard rounds
viral lodge
Charioteer is a speedy turret TD that can pack a punch and positions well relative to same tier TD
kindred wren
Plus the whole thing is smaller
It's not a particularly good td, it's alright to play, but it's at most average
viral lodge
It is Average lol It exists
kindred wren
The gun handling and hp are really holding it back. If you can afford to shoot a lot of prammo it pushes above the tank above average, but as it stands it's nothing I would call a good tank
Interesting at most. Uncomfortable to play as well
viral lodge
I mean I have 30 HESH loaded on it I rarely worry about my credit consumption ¯_(ツ)_/¯
abstract scarab
I loaded all HESH in my Charioteer 🤪
viral lodge
lol, I mean if you can position correctly that is perfectly viable and would maximize damage
vague steppe
@thick trout Yeah, but matchmaking always team me with suicidal teama
also I'm back, just finished catching up my sleep
thick trout
@vague steppe It puts you with exactly the same random people it puts everyone else with. If you don't like your teammates start working on a way to educate the general playerbase (who don't really care about the game).
sour meadow
Chimera wing with lowering or putting another spout with less recharge time would be better because having 13.1 with improvements being a medium tank is very slow, even so recharging a cannon with less damage and less reload time would be balanced in medium tank
swift harness
Do anyone if you think that the Chinese tanks are broken or overrated or better than it should be?
tulip sail
There certainly are good but I wouldn't say op
hard nexus
wz120 g ft is op, wz 112-2 is better than the 252u, sounds balanced
tulip sail
Even tho its op at least the wz120 g ft is pretty easily to deal with (all things considered)
royal crown
Dont yall think they should buff t69 and ru 251
tulip sail
Ru is fine though the t69 does feel a bit lacking
royal crown
Yes t69 is lacking
tulip sail
I'm not sure how itd get buffed though maybe a pen buff or a reload definitely not both
royal crown
Pen
crude leaf
T26E4 is a fair tank
people say its a no skill tank
Its my favorite in my opinion balanced and is just an all around good tank
hard nexus
t26e4 is garbage
tulip sail
It's a bit behind the curve and definitely not a no skill tank it's slow and riddled with weak spots and has a bit low penetration
tulip sail
There are much worse tanks the t26e4 is still useable especially in regulars where not everyone is that good at aiming
strange thicket
732-508
orchid nymph
superpershing could definitley use a buff
haughty moss
What do you guys think the best premium tier 8 medium is, which can go hulldown
thorn glacier
T25
viral lodge
Mk1 defender and Chimera
river atlas
Can we like delete missles?
echo knot
KV-1 needs buff
solid gate
Wolverine needs a health buff
neat isle
Mmm
solid trench
No they dont need buffs, each tank has is style (that is what WG tried). Stop playing all tanks the same, they have roles and styles. Get educated and stop complaining.
wild creek
Does anyone know what's written on the turret of the Thunder?
@echo knot Yup, I took my KV-1 out for it's birthday yesterday. That tank is only a shadow of what it once was.
solid trench
Shoot me here, I go boom! Ammo rack location
wild creek
@solid trench lol. 😆
echo knot
I think is need. After T1 and BDR get buffs, KV-1 is little bit bad and feels not like a tank i was played before.
distant nebula
Siema
tawny flame
is crommie B good?
slow valley
yes
prime swallow
I’m not gonna wanna was the time to tell ya what I did for you a man I was meant for you and you know how I feel like gg is a life and a life life and a good thing I don’t want you guys to be happy
slow valley
gun depression is much more than normal Cromwell so you can use it on ridgelines more
prime swallow
Hey I just wanna drop a good day I wanna was a good day I wanna was a good day
elder flume
Guys do you have any tips for me? I am currently farming the KV3 for XP and the grind is a total pain. I thought of starting playing with the Germans so I can follow the Tiger I / II line because those guys have more armour. What should I do? Keep going with the KV3 and finish the line or start with the Germans?
hollow belfry
KV-3 is ok when full, KV-4 struggles and stock ST-I is a pinnacle of pain to play. The E 100 is line is overall pretty good with decent stock grinds if you have some free exp for turrets or gun
unborn monolith
Guys do you have any tips for me? I am currently farming the KV3 for XP and the grind is a total pain. I thought of starting playing with the Germans so I can follow the Tiger I / II line because those guys have more armour. What should I do? Keep going with the KV3 and finish the line or start with the Germans?
@elder flume Use free EXP to research module... XD
elder flume
KV-3 is ok when full, KV-4 struggles and stock ST-I is a pinnacle of pain to play. The E 100 is line is overall pretty good with decent stock grinds if you have some free exp for turrets or gun
@hollow belfry
My KV3 is full and I have all modules unlocked
Sooo... The only question remaining is: should I start grinding with the Germans?
hollow belfry
You can. it is a solid heavy line with great tanks between T6-9
elder flume
I see
I'll get going later. Now I have some work to do. Wonder how painful the grind will be🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
I'm starting with Tier4 since I've played in the past
BTW in the Pz IV G can I get One-Tapped even if its not a ammo rack hit?
hollow belfry
unless you yolo like a 30% player at point blank in front of a KV-2, no
elder flume
The kv2 is tier 6. The pz 4 g isn't tier 4?
solid gate
The kv2 is tier 6. The pz 4 g isn't tier 4?
@elder flume
No Pz.IV G is tier 5 so Pz.IV D is tier 4
elder flume
Ohhhh
Thanks.
Haven't played in a bit. Just got back at it 2 days ago
solid gate
😉
pearl blaze
Brb my car is not starting
sly zodiac
I can choose between m48 and 4202, which one do i pick if im more into mobile playstyle?
tiny plume
It’s so good gotta say
pearl blaze
Hey so um, it's like half an hour and my car is still brokeb
viral falcon
@sly zodiac Definitely Fv4202
regal panther
buff arl turret
solid gate
French tanks don't need armor they have big pewpew
pearl blaze
@solid gate boi this is vehicles discussion, they don't say 'tank'
Brb my car is still broken
Pls man im still stuck
solid gate
You should give the kpf missles so that people who own like me and don’t use it that much have a reason and it literally has a sheridan gun exept it’s the e4 not the e5 version in the xm105e series. Do give it missles instead of putting some pay to win garbage in crates and improve your existing tanks instead of milking our wallets!
pearl blaze
@solid gate brb im stuck on the road, but kv1 has good armour
Brb im legit stuck on the road
Boi im not spending the night here
tiny plume
Oop
old shoal
If I can buy the T1 Heavy and the M4 Sherman which one should I get and why?
tiny plume
yes
old shoal
Wot
old shoal
Yes but which is the better tank on those two
I mean which tank is better m4 sherman or the m1 heavy tank?
glass relic
T1 heavy is far better than Sherman
If you're willing to sacrifice some medium flexibility of course.
tulip sail
While the t1 is over cooked rn I rather play the m4 since it take a bit more skill to play effectively
shell cloak
Quick question, which tank does everybody think is better for a 50% player , the Chimers or the 252U. Have limited funds can't get both.
tulip sail
Both are really good though I'd say the chimera is a bit too powerful atm
shell cloak
Ok great! Thank you!
thick trout
Chimera is an extremely nice tank, not the cheapest but I would say it's worth it if you want to buy something
fossil violet
chimera = discount t34-2
subtle mason
How's KV-5, worth buying or it's better to wait for something better?
thick trout
@subtle mason Unless you really want a bad tank that's occasionally funny it's not worth it at all. It's armour is good but it's turret is pretty much useless against prammo and it's got the R2D2 weakspot on the front that you can't hide. It's gun is also pretty bad too
subtle mason
Well, I'm prone to buying and playing some off-meta tanks, like Chrysler/M4rev for instance. And everything I'm looking out there for now is somewhat... Unique and interesting gameplay, I guess. @thick trout
tulip edge
I think the kv5 has pretty good credit coefficient too
subtle mason
Well, I want it not for farming purposes (I drown in credits, I have ~13 premium tanks, 6 of which are T8)
thick trout
@subtle mason The Chrysler and rev can actually do fairly well even if they aren't in meta, but the KV5 is pretty much useless. It doesn't have much special over any other heavy with good armour, except for its good side armour I guess.
thorn glacier
I'm playing around with the British line for the first time, is it more fun playing the heavies or the mediums? If meds, firefly line or Cromwell line?
tulip edge
Having done both lines, I personally think the mediums are more enjoyable especially the tier 6, 7 and 9. I prefer using fv4202 for random battles because of its premium hesh. However I have never done the firefly, but the cromwell is very good at tier 6.
pearl blaze
Brb pls im still stuck on the road
tulip sail
The firefly is fun but isn't an easy tank to play you have very few things that you cant pen but it's got low gd
subtle mason
@thick trout I see, makes sense. Will think about buying kv, or maybe su100y.
pearl blaze
Guys pls, i can't wait any longer on the road
calm inlet
?
tulip sail
Why dont you call a tow truck or are you waiting for one?
calm inlet
@pearl blaze call emergency services or a tow truck
pearl blaze
tulip edge
@calm inlet pretty sure hes just trolling. Been saying the same thing for hours here
pearl blaze
No, i just forgot about towing services
crude sorrel
I smell a potential nerf incoming
subtle mason
Nerf? What for? It's simply a tad more sturdy than kv-1s
thorn glacier
@tulip sail low GD no problem when you play Russian ht's
viral lodge
Thunder is quite a great tank, better armour and 2 more depression. and only slightly slower
orchid nymph
What do yall think of the IS-6. I think it could use a small buff
solid gate
Panther 8,8
VIII premium
When this tank is on sale. Have not seen it on premium shop at all. Since playing december 16.
green moth
i found some unused crew talk in the game files
tulip sail
@solid gate it hasn't been sold in years
tawny flame
@crude sorrel I have 4k WN8 on my Crommie B lol everyone’s a nub at tier 6
misty wing
WG pls sell panther 88, I want it really bad
calm inlet
^^^
i will shamelessly drop 7k gold for it
even tho its pretty mediocre, despite the armor buff
ember arrow
what is the first upgrade to get for standard B? the mobility is awfull but I think I can handle the auto loader....
low elk
the mobility wont improve a lot
get the HESH gun first
its the reason standard B is broken
calm inlet
its not broken anymore, the mag takes so long to fill up
tawny flame
JPanther so good
ember arrow
ok thanks...
last viper
should i buy an amx 13 57?
lyric oriole
It's good, but it's hard to use
azure plover
any tips on playing the T-54?
solid gate
What’s the difference between T-54 and T-54A? Same deal with T-55 and T-55A. Then you have people using T-54/55 or T-54/T-55 for whatever odd reason.
broken sentinel
@last viper it's more of a gimmick tank tbh, I wouldn't recommend it
@azure plover Good turret, decent hull, generally small, good dpm, bad gun depression, decent accuracy/pen (if you set it up right)
I recommend using the gun that leads to the Obj 140 (less pen, better accuracy) and just using calibrated shells on it. That way you have ok-ish pen but you still have that great accuracy. I also recommend to go hull down and play support. You can brawl, but dont do so if you can't win the fight. Your best bet is to put yourself in a position where you can farm damage and not take damage in return, which means going hull down or playing peek-a-boo is ideal.
azure plover
thanks! it really helps, cuz i was gonna ask which gun to research and which of the two tier 10s to choose
iron gulch
The ter stock really makes me wanna commit sudoku
tulip sail
It's worth skipping
valid orbit
Is the P.43 ter that bad?
tulip sail
Stock definitely
pearl blaze
How much for the gun and. Stuff
tulip sail
No clue I free xped the whole thing
pearl blaze
@tulip sail how much is it
tulip sail
No clue
I had a bout 150k when I free xped it and 3 other tanks with miscellaneous parts and pieces
hollow belfry
The IS-2 accuracy feels lackluster, not to mention the aim time
valid orbit
It's a china tank, the IS-2. But should improve when you get to WZ I think.
solid gate
Wait until u get the panterra, when u sporting a 90mm with a 10 sec reload
tulip sail
Most 122mm guns aren't that accurate at t7
valid orbit
The worse is still the SU 152's gun. Terrible accuracy. At T7 at least.
iron gulch
@valid orbit idk, im just in the clan and play often. I don't talk to the clan mates as much.
valid orbit
@valid orbit idk, im just in the clan and play often. I don't talk to the clan mates as much.
@iron gulch Hey mate, pretty sure you replied to the wrong person 😄
viral mortar
this is ridiculous that a light tank can pen a HT from front with AP, and if that light tank is t9 and HT is t10 i mean WOW. Yea i am talking about T92E1 the missile tank
fast compass
Hmmm there is no written rule that says lights can't pen heavies frontally. Besides 210mm reg rounds is already quite rough for tier 9
@viral mortar easier to have this discussion here because shorter slow mode
Secondly batchat 25t ap has better reg round pen than t92. And it depends on what heavy you are facing. You WON'T be able to pen a maus(frontally ofcourse) with standard rounds with either of these tanks
solid gate
You do know t92E1 had pen nerfed to 210mm right it also shoots apcr as its standard round too
viral mortar
yea there is no rule, so imagine there are t9 hts which cant pen t10 hts frontally, i mean they(light) have more mobility and more pen, superior in every way
some people will say they dont have HP pool
solid gate
First off what heavy are you even playing in since t92E1 already now struggles to pen anything from the front second most T9 hts can reliably pen the weakspots of T10 hts the T92 has less armor and worsened pen
viral mortar
is4 ht
solid gate
wait my bad
viral mortar
yea
solid gate
T92E1 cant pen the front of is4 whatsoever unless it can get a lucky shot off the microscopic lower plate the atgm pen is the only thing that can pen its front
Also it has apcr not AP making its penetration even worse
viral mortar
also E5
solid gate
Once again e5s weakspot is almost impossible to pen in E1
viral mortar
what if i send you replay and then you believe me what i am saying
solid gate
I said almost is the keyword with CS its still doable
glass relic
CS+Increased pen crew skills thingy might be it.