vehicles-discussion

[fallow shoal]

The type 4 ho ro and type 5 ho ri are like soo different.

[keen mantle]

ho ri potter 😂

[tulip sail]

Surprisingly alot of tanks in sequence are

[fallow shoal]

Japan couldent make up their mind lol

[keen mantle]

Japan didn't have field experience using their tanks so they didn't know what to change

[tulip sail]

At least not with tanks and they did just not against tanks

[keen mantle]

you get what I mean, they didn't know what made a good tank

[tulip sail]

Yes the Italians were a bit better but in a similar boat

[keen mantle]

the Italians just didn't have enough industrial strength to build something good

If they were making T-34s they'd probably still only make them in Tiger numbers

[tulip sail]

Yeah they also didn't know how to make a good medium looking at prototypes

That's a good point

[keen mantle]

They only really had the industrial power to pump out tankettes

[tulip sail]

Yeah and in that respect they made pretty good tankettes

[fallow shoal]

Anti air as well

[tulip sail]

I cant speak about that I've never looked into that

@keen mantle you guys seem to really enjoy tanks and talking about them if you want I can point you to a good source if you would like @fallow shoal

Just PM me if you do

[fallow shoal]

Cool send me that plz

[keen mantle]

go ahead ye

[tulip sail]

Sent em

[keen mantle]

noice

[tulip sail]

Yup I've learned alot bc of them

[fallow venture]

It's kinda weird when you think about it that most of these tanks were designed and built in a matter of 4 years

Like isn't that a bit too fast?

[tulip sail]

Yeah or less cough m4 cough

[fallow venture]

I assume the Sherman was the most mass produced American, excuse my lack of knowledge of history

[keen mantle]

I mean the M4 was basically running off the same suspension system as the M2 and M3 so they only needed to design the hull, turret, and gun

[tulip sail]

Yes it was

@keen mantle yeah but it still counts

[fallow venture]

What about the Wolverine and the hellcat, I think the M10 was also so popular

[tulip sail]

@fallow venture and as long as your willing to learn and better yourself all is good and the crews didnt like the m18 much but the m10they did

[keen mantle]

I mean it's almost like the M18 could literally be penetrated by machine gun fire at close range so I can't imagine the crew liking that

[fallow venture]

I don't like history in general but this is just interesting and fun to more about

[tulip sail]

It didnt even have a better gun then the m4s at that time

[fallow venture]

@tulip sail WG is so unrealistic with that

[marble hazel]

Ikr

[keen mantle]

I mean this is the modern equivalent of the M18 Hellcat

just any sort of truck with a tow missile launcher

[tulip sail]

Yeah but they do pretty good at modeling the tanks

[marble hazel]

Lol

[keen mantle]

@fallow venture the WoTB Hellcat was based off of a prototype that was mounted with an M36 turret and gun so that's actually not completely unrealistic

[sonic raven]

why

[fallow venture]

War thunder is probably much more realistic, I guess
@keen mantle why would they do that?

[sonic raven]

was the t150 removed?

[tulip sail]

Its better than the 76mm and @fallow venture by far

[fallow venture]

@sonic raven became collectible

[keen mantle]

Because the KV-2 was more popular

[sonic raven]

but why

but the t150 was still likeable

[keen mantle]

but more people liked the KV-2 deal with it

[fallow venture]

And it was a pain while stock

[sonic raven]

what about the KV-13?

[tulip sail]

Same thing

[sonic raven]

dang

[keen mantle]

lets be honest there are event tanks with more people playing them than the KV-13

Kuro Mori Mine lol

[tulip sail]

I was grinding if...

[tulip edge]

Kv13 is garb anyway

[keen mantle]

I got mine :p it's nice

[tulip sail]

Also that's not saying much @keen mantle

[keen mantle]

I like my KV-13

[tulip sail]

Yeah but it's just so unused

[sonic raven]

yeah i liked the kv13

Could I still buy it back through a ticket or something?

[tulip sail]

Its historic crews cant agree no

[fallow venture]

I'm honestly going for Chinese and German meds instead of Russian

[tulip edge]

@sonic raven if you previously owned the kv13 you can get it back. However for collector tanks I believe instead of needing a garage slot and credits you need a slot and the gold its worth which for the kv13 is i believe 2.5k

[hot tendon]

China med trash E 50 M meta and Leo is really fun

[fallow venture]

I can't deal with the Leo and why is the Chinese trash?

[sonic raven]

ohh my gosh

[tulip sail]

Oh didnt know that

[sonic raven]

@tulip edge thank you

What I dislike the most, though, is that they removed tanks from the Japanese line as if it wasn't small already

[tulip edge]

Its not like it mattered much anyway just like three tanks sub tier five

[fallow venture]

They never added the heavies @sonic raven

[keen mantle]

he's talking about the low tiers

[sonic raven]

The Ke-Ho and Ke-Ni were very near and dear to me

[fallow venture]

Oh the small cute ones

[sonic raven]

ye lol

[fallow venture]

I played them

But not for long, now I'm on the Chi-To

[tulip edge]

I gave up on sta-1. Got it fully upgraded still couldnt enjoy it

[sonic raven]

The Chi-Ri is really fun

[fallow venture]

It has garbage armour but it's all about gun depression

[sonic raven]

ye

also good reload

[fallow venture]

Though wg should give the line more gun depression

The comet has 12 and all the Japanese have 10

It's kinda unfair

[sonic raven]

yeah tru

they need to add the heavies

[fallow venture]

Some derb at tier 10

[keen mantle]

Japanese heavies should never be added

[sonic raven]

oof why not

[fallow venture]

They're like another KV-2

[keen mantle]

"Hey remember that VK 100.01 (P) tank that everyone is complaining about on the discord? Lets just make that but with no frontal weak spots."

[fallow venture]

That's sort of true

[keen mantle]

yeah you get the problem with them now

[fallow venture]

Plus a 152mm derb gun

[keen mantle]

150mm*

[fallow venture]

My bad

[tulip edge]

Plus they would be incredibly awkward in the maps. They would have to rework areas to accustom their size

[keen mantle]

I mean anyways, why would you have tanks take skill at high tiers? That shouldn't amount to anything right?

If you've ever played Japanese heavies on PC it's the single most no skill possible thing to play

[fallow venture]

I saw a review of it, it's just alot of armour and big chunks of damage but yea you can spot it easily but that doesn't really matter

[keen mantle]

Why bother angling they need to load premium ammo to penetrate anything before you take into account angles

[sonic raven]

So they're just bad all around?

[keen mantle]

this is with 317mm pen HEAT, green being 100% pen, light green being 75% pen, yellow being 50% pen, orange being 25% pen, and red being 0% pen

the only way to penetrate this every time with 317mm penetration HEAT is by shooting dead center on the middle of the cupola

you see why this is stupid and shouldn't be in the game?

[sonic raven]

Yeah i see now lmao

[keen mantle]

Here's 250mm pen AP, the only way to pen more than 80% of the time is by getting a perfectly clean shot into the view ports on the cupola

where there's that tiny slot of green

[sonic raven]

im sure some sort of bs rng could fit a shell in there

[keen mantle]

Only Russian shells though

[fallow venture]

Or wg can screw with it to give it weaker sides

[keen mantle]

to make it even worse, they have 150mm guns that shoot only HE and do a good 400-500 splash damage no matter what

Why not just punish an IS-7 for being hull down instead of everything down

[fallow venture]

I still wonder why the Japanese meds aren't that op

[tulip edge]

Still not enough. I remember the developers talking about it on a stream. They tested them out and they just came out too strong and the fact that the tanks couldnt access parts of the map says a lot lmao

[sonic raven]

to make up for the japanese havies that arent there @fallow venture

[keen mantle]

the STB-1 is a good tank though at least

[fallow venture]

Imagine wg gave them like 14 degrees of gun depression, that's it... They created a new base of players

[keen mantle]

historically the STB-1 had a suspension that could lean forwards and give a combined 20+ degrees gun depression

[sonic raven]

the type 61 is really hard to play

everytime i get spotted im immediately rushed by any t54

[fallow venture]

@keen mantle well if that add that suspension somehow, everyone would go for the Japanese meds

[keen mantle]

well it would be insanely op with that lol

[tulip edge]

add swedish heavies with their 1000 degrees

[keen mantle]

lol

[fallow venture]

I understand the pain even if I'm playing with a T49 and I see a Japanese med, I just think to myself: that's a nice cake

[sonic raven]

everyone does that lmao

as much as i love the japanese meds, if i spot one alone and i know i can take it ima murder it

[tulip edge]

Stb-1 is fine imo. Sta-1 and type need some love

[keen mantle]

yeah a strong gun mantlet will do it

[fallow venture]

They have paper armour and 10 degrees isn't enough

[tulip edge]

I cant comment on chi-ri. I enjoyed playing it but i havent played it since like 2016

[keen mantle]

just give the STA-1 and Type 61 strong gun mantlets and they'll be great solid tanks

[fallow venture]

It's my next tank in the line @tulip edge

@keen mantle and better front armour and turret roof

[tulip edge]

Chi-ri is probably worse now. Influx of prems that can outclass it with tier 8 prems also. Thankfully I played it way back when

[keen mantle]

nah just the gun mantlet

[fallow venture]

Type 61 has a big cupola, right?

[tulip edge]

It has a tumour

[keen mantle]

make it like the AMX 30 1er where the gun mantlet bounces shots but the rest can be penned easy

[fallow venture]

It's such a painful line

[tulip edge]

Only japanese tank i have left in my garage is a chi nu kai

[fallow venture]

I'm close to researching like 3 tier 9 tanks and I have no credits to buy them

[sonic raven]

I love the Chi-Nu

[fallow venture]

@sonic raven that was a fun one

[tulip edge]

I always forget the differences with chi nu and chi nu kai. Believe the kai has better gun reload. Can never remember

[keen mantle]

difference is kai makes stupid credits

[sonic raven]

It was fun till they changed the hp on the t5s

[tulip edge]

Only just worse than the angry connor. Kai is my best credit earner but im bored of playing it. Ima need credits soon though i blew 4 million today

[sonic raven]

kai makes a lot of money

[tulip edge]

Lmao and when its the birthday for the kai.

[sonic raven]

oooff

whats the average amount of credits it makes?

[tulip edge]

I havent played it in a while but if i remember correctly it was rare if i made less than 50k

[sonic raven]

jeez

[tulip edge]

Most i made in it was around 120k without missions. I think a birthday bumped it up was ages ago

[solid gate]

Cruel Twist is my new money maker. It's nice to finally have a tier 8 that is fun to play.

[tulip edge]

Does it play quite similarly to the ru? I’d imagine so

[slender perch]

Did you see my Soviet Type 5? @keen mantle

[keen mantle]

no I have not lol

[keen mantle]

@solid gate the 183 hasn't been nerfed until now because WG thinks that they don't camp

[slender perch]

I never miss in my Type 5 now.

[solid gate]

Yes. A RU that make great credits. It's like the RU and the Bulldog had a romantic getaway and then 9 months later WG added the Cruel Twist to the garage.

[keen mantle]

@slender perch dang with that much russian bias you could almost make a german gun accurate

[slender perch]

https://tenor.com/view/get-it-thoughts-thinking-gif-9319664

[solid gate]

@keen mantle. Notice he's looking the completely wrong direction. Typical 🤣

[tulip edge]

Then i was stupid to not get it. Im a big fan of the ru251

[keen mantle]

@solid gate yeah seems about right

and no one notices the second one, the camo's just that good

[slender perch]

The screenshot looks like a 4v2. When you're alone in your E100 trying to win and your 183 decides to yolo.

I think they accurately described random battles in 1 picture.

[keen mantle]

I have no clue what team the 140 is supposed to be on lol

he's mad that the mediums went the medium side and is now trying to team kill the E 100 for it most likely

[tulip edge]

I think the deathstar and e100 are together and the rest are enemies. Idk why that deathstar is infront of two is7s and aiming at something else and not shooting the two enemies behind

[solid gate]

@slender perch I disagree. Nobody is facing backwards.

[slender perch]

True, it's a known fact that most tanks have better armor in the rear.

[tulip edge]

An is4 and is7*

[sonic raven]

my question is why is the deathstar upfront with the heavies

[slender perch]

Because it's a heavy tank

[tulip edge]

Deathstar is using his armour

[keen mantle]

I think the 140 is a "team mate" in that they're supposed to be on the same team but the 140 is just mad and trying to team kill, which is far more likely than the 140 actually pushing in tier 10

[sonic raven]

lmao

that sounds pretty accurate

[smoky dune]

Can anyone explain or point out where WG has explained why the Tech Tree model Panzer IV has the lowest RoF, HP/ton and worst dispersion on turret rotation of all the Panzer IV based variants? It has the “best” armor in raw mm, but since it’s all flat as can be that’s pretty meaningless.

[tulip sail]

Because most of the panzer iv variants have better guns and are higher teir

[keen mantle]

it's literally the second highest tier one

[tulip sail]

Wait are we counting tanks that are based on panzer 4 or just the panzer 4a,d t5,

[keen mantle]

all of them

jk tho that's actually wrong

[tulip sail]

Then we count up to t9

[keen mantle]

seems legit

[tulip sail]

I'd say that the panzer iv should have less dpm then the t9 variation

[keen mantle]

😂

but this is WG remember that the JgPz IV should have more dpm than some tier 10s in their eyes

[lethal bolt]

remember that the Black Prince/FV201 needs to have more DPM than Jg.Pz. IV

[keen mantle]

no lol

[lethal bolt]

has more dpm than it tho

[keen mantle]

JgPz IV has over 3200 dpm 😍

[lethal bolt]

Wrong it's 3080

[sonic raven]

why did they nerf the pz 3s reload

is was so good and that's what made the tank good

its effectively useless now

[keen mantle]

Because it gets to be tier 3 and have that armor

[glass otter]

Did they slightly nerf the panzer IV S reload?

[sonic raven]

but why is it a tier three now

[glass otter]

@glass otter?

[sonic raven]

they have RUINED the Pz. III

the reload is garbage

[solid gate]

Platoon anybody?

[sonic raven]

i have rely on teammates now instead of before when i could actually 2v1 and win

because i was hoping to go into tier 3/4 4/5 battles to destroy some noobs but now i cant even last 2 minutes on my own

im so triggered

[paper folio]

Ltwt or t44?

[regal zealot]

Should I buy the Ducker Max? Wanting to learn the Sturer Emil’s playstyle.

[ancient iron]

I have a tech tree question.... which way is better to get the T57 Heavy tank? The Chaffee branch or the T37 branch?

[upbeat glade]

Ltwt

[twilit scroll]

Is the 183 still worth it?

[pulsar sinew]

No

[lethal bolt]

that's if you want a high risk camp with a high reward

[dark socket]

Grille 15 got better camo than 183 now

[twilit scroll]

Is it still fun to play? Lol

[tulip sail]

@regal zealot no they are quite different the max has pretty good mobility and alot more speed

[lethal bolt]

Jag e 100 has better camo than FV 183?

[sonic raven]

What would restoring my KV-13 be related to? Premium vehicle restoration?

[lethal bolt]

yes in a way, but you need to return the gold you got from selling it

[sonic raven]

i didnt get any gold from selling it

I sold it before it became a collectors tank

[lethal bolt]

you can get it back if you have the gold

2500 gold to get it back so you need to pay 10 dollars for it

[sonic raven]

ooh okay i have enough gold

thanks

[rancid mauve]

Black Prince is good fun lol

[lethal bolt]

FV201 is also fun and an amazing tank don't you think?

[solid gate]

Are the Japanese tanks worth it?

[keen mantle]

kind of

[solid gate]

Hmmm

[crude sorrel]

New KV-2 gonna be T49 ATGM 2.0

[regal zealot]

With way better armor

[solid gate]

And yet it isn't atgm

[crude sorrel]

🤦

[solid gate]

Since it has dispersion values

[crude sorrel]

Will we be able to keep it.. probably not but hey guided missiles are fun.

[honest delta]

Well guys, that's it, who has them to keep or sell them for gold

[round girder]

Nuuuu

[pine mason]

uuuuN

[keen mantle]

uuNuu

[pine mason]

uNuuu

[keen mantle]

uuuNu

[pine mason]

UUnUU

[regal zealot]

U_U

Now have 330 gold

[dusky stone]

What’s with the spam?

[pine mason]

@dusky stone do not ask and continue with it

[reef shale]

Nobody says you have to sell the Kuro. He still makes fun.

[shrewd basalt]

Guys What the Best Gun for Kv-1 ?
76mm or 85mm ?

[ocean mauve]

The biggest one

[pine mason]

@ocean mauve you crazy ... no one uses the derp gun on KV1

[ocean mauve]

Ok. I meant the latest gun

200 avg damage

[pine mason]

yes that one is the best

[fallow venture]

The derb gun has awful pen

I was grinding the IS-4 line so I bought the KV-1 then they linked the KV-1s with the line so I had to sell the KV-1 and buy the KV-1s and now I have no credits

[raven socket]

@fallow venture rip

@fallow venture Hw much credits u hv now ?

[fallow venture]

About 40-50 k

[raven socket]

@fallow venture ohh

[round girder]

OwO

[solid gate]

That's alot of armor !

[honest delta]

@reef shale it's about i sold them, all this topic i posted up there was about they became collectors after 3 years of premium life to GUP Tanks and 2 years of premium life to Ultramarines

[fallow venture]

What is this thing?

[vast belfry]

A tank. 🙃

[fallow venture]

Yea when was it's event?

[pulsar sinew]

@modest tangle I see you 👀

[modest tangle]

👀

Shhh

Exposed

[vast belfry]

Nothing happened.

[modest tangle]

And before anyone asks. I'm a CC I get early access to tanks, it's no hax and the tank is not released yet

Keep an eye in the news for more details

[tender sundial]

Oo video to be released soon?

[modest tangle]

Soon yes

[tender sundial]

"is Chrysler K worth the hype?"

[modest tangle]

Atm I'm not allowed to talk about the tank itself

[tender sundial]

Right

[modest tangle]

But it's nothing like it was on pc

[solid gate]

😂 😂 😂 @modest tangle check amaunets server #spam section

[tender sundial]

I watch yer vids pretty regularly so I'll just have to wait and see lol

[modest tangle]

😊

[tender sundial]

Btw congrats on breaking 5 digits

[modest tangle]

Thank you mate

[tender sundial]

Maybe you'll be a co-host in the next twister lol

[vast belfry]

10k subs giveaway rocks!

Gimme them tanks

[solid gate]

Wg should add the TOG III

[vast belfry]

Was there even a TOG III?

[solid gate]

I don't know was there a 59 patton

[vast belfry]

@solid gate Well, at least now you know.

[tender sundial]

The Chinese did combine a bunch of American and Russian tanks cuz it's what they had

[fallow venture]

@modest tangle so you're the dude playing in the screenshot?

[modest tangle]

That's me yes

[velvet haven]

Is it OP @fallow venture

[fallow venture]

I don't think I can say much, I died in the first 2 minutes
Got rushed by a med and a heavy then flanked by another heavy

But I do think it's an awesome side scraber Meadsy was side scraping most of the time I saw him

@velvet haven that's all I can say

[modest tangle]

:)

[fallow venture]

I guess I just did what you couldn't do, right? @modest tangle

[modest tangle]

Yeah lol

Hopefully will meet in battle again :)

[fallow venture]

I might add you in the game but that doesn't matter
Have a nice day :)

[modest tangle]

I don't add anyone on my CC acc mate

But my main acc sure

[fallow venture]

Good to know, what's your other account?

[modest tangle]

Meadsy69 lol

[raven socket]

@modest tangle Which server ur playing?

[modest tangle]

Eu and NA

Mainly eu

I only have a CC acc on NA

[raven socket]

@modest tangle ohh

[fallow venture]

@modest tangle what clan?

[modest tangle]

-gpa-

[fallow venture]

396 mastery badges

64+% win rate,
I feel like an absolute noob just looking at your profile

[modest tangle]

Lol

100% mastery badges:)

[fallow venture]

I have like 8 mastery badges

My win rate sucks

[raven socket]

@fallow venture Dude, don't say that to urself man

[fallow venture]

@raven socket my wr is 47.14%

[raven socket]

@fallow venture then that's fine

[modest tangle]

It's avg

[raven socket]

Mine has alrdy gone down to 42.24%

[modest tangle]

I think avg wr is 48%

[raven socket]

Sickening for me

[modest tangle]

I have seen many 46-50% players carry the battle

[fallow venture]

Awesome

[raven socket]

I'm ready for insults

[fallow venture]

@raven socket nah

[keen oar]

@modest tangle I love your intro on youtube ... its so relaxing

[fallow venture]

Sometimes it's just the team that destroys your win rate @raven socket
In my case, I rush too fast and die early in most games... Just like that one I had with Meadsy

[raven socket]

I'm already 24 and alrdy hv a girlfriend but still behave like a kid

@fallow venture Ohh

[fallow venture]

I was in an ISU-152... I managed to hit three shells before I die so I guess I did something

[raven socket]

My IS-2 ( 1945 ) was totally gonna get wrecked becoz bad players destroyed my tank pretty badly

[past crater]

I dont think you should look at your overall stats at all, 30days is way morr accurate

[regal zealot]

Yeah, it’s better to check that 30 days stats on BlitzStars

[raven socket]

Long time don't hv premium usage anymore

[past crater]

If you find yourself dying first or under 1minute try startiing the battle 20s later

[raven socket]

I'm lost

IS-2 (1945) can it shoot better than IS or IS fired pretty well than IS-2 (1945) ?

[past crater]

They arw pretty much the samw

[regal zealot]

It’s gun handling is comparable to the standard IS, but that hull is better than the IS itself

[raven socket]

If the IS-3 and KV-4 ?

Is there any difference?

[regal zealot]

They’re totally different tanks for different roles
One relies on being hulldown, while the other is a meatshield, like the Maus

[raven socket]

Owh oh ok

Becoz i was planning to get my IS bck then grind for IS-3

[regal zealot]

The IS-3 is a breakthrough tank with a rock solid turret. Hull is pretty decent against tier VIIs, but don’t expect it to hold against the tier VIIIs and IXs. It’s also pretty mobile for a HT
The KV-4 on the other hand requires you to maximize its armor like angling and sidescraping. Its gun is quite good at hitting, although not as hard as a typical 122mm gun.

[hot tendon]

Drac isn’t Op

[raven socket]

Ohh

[regal zealot]

Anyways, if you want to grind both tier Xs of both lines, I suggest you to start with the IS-7 line first. Unless you want to play the tier IX ST-I with the 122mm gun with 175mm of pen. That’s laughable at tier VIII, but utterly useless at tier X

[hot tendon]

But is-7 is trash

[regal zealot]

Not really trash, just outshined by the IS-4

[mint ridge]

Is7 kills e100 and maus easy

Its fast and has small profile for a heavy

[regal zealot]

That’s true. It’s still good

[mint ridge]

And it has the most troll armor

And has a good alpha gun

[quasi mirage]

i mean in a facehug scenario the e100 probaby wins

[odd glacier]

Is 5k damage A lot of Patton?

[regal zealot]

It’s good either way.
It’s not too huge, but you pulled your weight through
Wait, which Patton?

If it’s the 59-Patton, that’s an achievement.
If it’s the M46 or the M48, that’s pretty decent.

[unique spear]

guys did the kv 4 price just go up to 72k?

[regal zealot]

Yes

[unique spear]

awwww man...the gun is still 44k. Not fair man.

[regal zealot]

F
Gotta grind with the stock 107mm or the 122mm C:

[fallow venture]

I'm on the IS-4 grind and still on the KV-1s but when I played against KV-3 in other tanks, it really seemed like an easy pen

Even up front

[regal zealot]

They are exposing their front. Their specialty is in their sidescraping potential. Turret’s bouncy enough, but the hull front must be protected at all costs

[quasi mirage]

honestly the russian tier 7s kind of suck

[raven socket]

@quasi mirage abit

[quasi mirage]

they have bad pen bad gun handling etc, mediocore armor with horrible mobility or bad armor with ok mobility

[fallow venture]

@quasi mirage I agree, the IS is easy to fight

[quasi mirage]

the aiming time is way too long

[regal zealot]

Slightly.
IS with the 100mm gun is a true medium hunter while the KV-3 is just a bunker

[quasi mirage]

if you want a medium hunter you go for the tiger with like tier 8 medium dpm and hp with a bit more armor but less mobility

[unique spear]

@fallow venture kv 3 has teh same weak spot as teh kv 1 after getting its turret. so yeah anyone cna pen it in that small gap

[raven socket]

@quasi mirage Yea. Same as my tier 7 IS and IS-2 ( 1945 ) I was wanting KV-3 as my next tier 7 heavy tank

[quasi mirage]

like against a tiger p you can't win with the IS/kv3 . You take like 3 years to aim and he gets like 2 shots by then

[unique spear]

@quasi mirage but later it gets much better right?

[quasi mirage]

is3 is great coz god like dispersion values for turret

however the kv4 is useless rn coz of vk 100p. Better hull armor,slightly worse side armor but has russian bias side armor despite being german. Better alpha with only a bit lower dpm. Its slower forward speed but the kv4 usually only goes 25 kmh anyway. Also traverse is better on vk 100 and so is reverse speed.. Also vk can snapshot unlike the kv4

[raven socket]

@quasi mirage Yea so that's why i like the IS-3 more than the KV-4

[quasi mirage]

https://tank-compare.blitzstars.com/

just compare the vk and kv4. the only advantages kv4 has is the faster reload negated by better alpha. Also first shot alpha of vk makes dpm the same

[regal zealot]

I think that the KV-4’s still viable, even with the advent of the Vk 100.01 P

[quasi mirage]

also kv4 weakspot turret is on center while vk is side oriented

vk has better mobility than kv4

[raven socket]

@quasi mirage VK 100.01 ? Or the Vk 45.02

[quasi mirage]

lol of course the vk 100.01. The vk 45 is an inferior is3. They should just give it unnerfed tiger P dpm. Make it a dpm machine that actually can kill meds

[raven socket]

@quasi mirage oh

[quasi mirage]

like the vk100 has really good gun handling for such a big gun

[raven socket]

VK 100.01 's armour almost looks like the E 50 tier IX heavy tank

[quasi mirage]

meanwhile kv4 has garbage gun handling for a medium size gun

sure the kv4 has better accuracy but it takes like 6 seconds for that

[regal zealot]

The weakspot on the KV-4 can be angled, unlike the Vk’s circular one.
The tank heavily relies on sidescraping and angling to work. I’ve never had issues with the KV-4’s gun handling. The Vk’s tho, it just doesn’t want to hit

[quasi mirage]

dude thats your problem. The vk is clearly better. .07 better gun dispersion on move and half a sec better aim time

[regal zealot]

Same for you about the KV-4

[raven socket]

I remember tier VII has one VK but it's premium so i don't remember the name. And i am old already

[quasi mirage]

no th ekv4 has garbage gun handling .25 is garbage with 3 sec aim time

im using stats you are using personal anecdotes

like the IS tanks have the same on move /traverse but way better for turret. Kv4 has garbage all around

[regal zealot]

You’ve driven one before?

[quasi mirage]

yes ive driven the kv4 is3,is5 and vk 100p

the vk gun handling is godlike for a tier 8 heavy

[regal zealot]

Prefer the KV-4’s for reliability

[quasi mirage]

its hardly more reliable. Literally no where is more reliable besides final sniiping accuracy

you are just using personal anecdotes

[solid gate]

God forbid there be a lemon in a Russian line! Somebody better fix that quick!

[quasi mirage]

I mean the kv4 is useless to the vk 100p besides long term relocation and sniping

the vk cant be circled either. I get like 55 degrees of combined traverse with 15 kmh reverse speed

[regal zealot]

Personal anecdotes or not, that’s my opinion on the matter, I prefer the KV-4 over the Vk 100.01 P

[dark socket]

KV-4 is a great tank, love that thing, reason I got myself a KV-5

[regal zealot]

^^^

Though I never got a chance to buy a KV-5

[near forge]

I'm in the IS right now, and I find it's decent when you know how to play heavies.

[quasi mirage]

i mean stats literally prove the kv4 has been powercreeped. Id argue its needs a buff. Preferably an aim time buff. It only does 320 alpha not 400. It should be able to snapshot

[regal zealot]

In the right hands, the KV-4 can be a formidable opponent, while the Vk excels so well simply because of how easy it is to play. I can’t deny that, but that’s a bit boring IMO

[dark socket]

KV-Fortress

[quasi mirage]

I mean both tanks have a ceiling due to the lack of mobility. I don't myself going above my other tier 8 tanks but the relative play style is so simple. its just wiggle or sidescrape and not get circled which you can't get circled by a medium(although some lights could do it). Its also much tougher to track the vk 100

[unique spear]

but what abt the higher kv's after kv 4 liek the is 4 and st I

[quasi mirage]

st1 is solid with better gun handling IMO and great turret armor.

[dark socket]

because it's a tier 9

[quasi mirage]

yeah but the kv4 has garbage gun handling for a 107

[regal zealot]

They’re rock solid. ST-I is unique in a sense that it’s a gun depression tank, unique for a Russian HT

[dark socket]

I never had a problem with KV-4 gun handling

[quasi mirage]

im sorry but I did and the stats show it is garbage. Worst aim time,bad dispersion on the move and turret is also bad unlike the IS tanks. ALl of it is for a measly 320 dmg.

[regal zealot]

It does have the best pen and premium pen amongst the two tanks

[quasi mirage]

again the ap pen is minuscule although the premium is a decent idfference

[dry notch]

Any tank can be good in the right situation. Except the tier 4 frech premium TD, thats just a turd.

[regal zealot]

That’s just a horrible tank all round. The tier III’s good though

Though that tier IV French TD is still part of the tech tree

[quasi mirage]

atleas tthey reduced the xp to get to tier 5.

[regal zealot]

At least I still have my UE 57

[unique spear]

hmm so so i guess its just one tier to suffer from

then its good again huh?

[regal zealot]

Yeah.
But you should stick to your guns till you finish your grind on the tier VI. People say that the tier VI is trash too

[quasi mirage]

yeah it kind of is

[turbid imp]

do you think i should spend my silver to unlock kv1s or upgrade my equipent to tier3 on my US T34?

[regal zealot]

Hopefully by tier VII, the lines become more streamlined and easier to play as the assault tank role

@turbid imp only buy the Vertical Stabilizers, no need for the other two level 3 equipment

[unique spear]

guys suggestions. on the kv 3 shud i grind for the 19k gun or directly for the kv 4 (i have every other module)

[regal zealot]

That 19k gun is what? The D-25T? Grind that gun just in case

[dark socket]

That gun is used on a lot of tanks

but if you go for ST-I do the IS-3 before you do so you don't have to use a 175mm pen get at teir 9

[regal zealot]

Yep

[unique spear]

yup its the 122mm d25t

[dark socket]

Get it

you need it on KV-4 anyway

[unique spear]

alright i have 7k rn so i guess i'll get that first then the kv 4

[regal zealot]

Grind that just in case. Good DPM for the KV-4, though I used the stock 107mm for grinding

[dark socket]

I just had a shiet ton of free exp I had stocked up from boosters

[unique spear]

imo they shud have reduced the cost for the zis 24 of the kv 4 after increasing its price

btw im tlaking aBT THE KV 3 HERE NOT THE KV 4

oops caps didnt mean to

[dark socket]

I know

[regal zealot]

This is just consideration when you want to start your KV-4 grind

[unique spear]

hmm so ur saying d25t then kv4?

[dark socket]

yes

[unique spear]

hmm the kv4 grind gonna be painful cuz 72k xD. Anyways the d25t is a dpm right

how much dmg per shot?? with ap.

[regal zealot]

Yes, the D-2-5T doesn’t provide much DPM compared to the D-25T

[unique spear]

yea its alpha as u said before

[regal zealot]

Both 107s do 320 alpha while the 122s do 400

[unique spear]

hmm

[quasi mirage]

for a premium tank you should buy all the equipment. You would play hundreds of battles in that

[unique spear]

i dont have enough gold to spend xD

[quasi mirage]

@turbid imp

anyway just use free xp NOOOB

[regal zealot]

Even the tracks and consumable equipment? That seems a bit wasteful

[quasi mirage]

not a in premium/tier ten

[wise burrow]

New favorite tank armored car in wot: Panhard EBR 105

[unique spear]

@quasi mirage ur right im quite a noob currently thats why i am asking u guys for tips ^_^

[quasi mirage]

for a grind tank of course not lol But premium/tier ten + favorite tanks

im just saying get free xp @unique spear

wait for a 5xp event and use your boosters and you get like 1.5k xp per game

[unique spear]

hmm but i dont mind being criticised

thats the only way to know ur faults tbh

[regal zealot]

Also, you know the premium account certificates? The 1 hour ones are the most valuable ones.

They bring the best bang for buck. Using the 9hr or the 24hr ones are pretty wasteful

[unique spear]

yup cnat play for so long

alright gn i gtg sleep now i'll see you all later'

[regal zealot]

Alright, gtg sleep too. Gn!

[solid gate]

@regal zealot @regal zealot @regal zealot @regal zealot @regal zealot

[devout shadow]

@stable parcel

What you think about the vk100 01P?

[stable parcel]

I got all the chocolate for that thing. Stock gun, got my reload to 13.3. It could really used a mildly buffed reload..

[devout shadow]

I never drived him stock.

Mäuschen is stock like an house .__.

[stable parcel]

I'm looking forward to the next gun for more pen/alpha, but my reload...

[devout shadow]

The reload on a topgun VK100 whit 50% crew is 20sec+

[stable parcel]

Oh no

[quasi mirage]

yeah stock sucks vk

[stable parcel]

I've only got a 85% crew...

[quasi mirage]

it has the same dpm as the t150

[devout shadow]

75%crew is an wonder happen the tank was fun

[quasi mirage]

I had 75 crew but infinite free xp basically thx to 5xp events. I just went for the gun and engine

[stable parcel]

I already have the engine, just need the gun

[fleet berry]

noob42#9237 was muted

[devout shadow]

Gg

[pine mason]

F

[stable parcel]

F

[devout shadow]

And hi Paikkonen

[stable parcel]

Any suggestions for making this thing more bearable to drive?

[solid gate]

Free XP

[stable parcel]

Okay yeah but I'm saving it up for future grinds

[quasi mirage]

dude its ez to grind it

[pine mason]

@stable parcel all i know from clan members is to choose one direction and go that way

[devout shadow]

The tank is still great. Dont camp or you never make dmg

[quasi mirage]

wait for a 5xp event and using boosters

[devout shadow]

@pine mason yep

[solid gate]

Who camps in an heavy?

[stable parcel]

I'm gonna be honest, I'm too used to the Tiger P

[quasi mirage]

but u just yolo

[devout shadow]

@solid gate 40% of all players i guess

Rushing tds and camp mefs, heavys and lights

[stable parcel]

I could move, block damage, and fire shells at a speed that doesn't suggest that the loader is a turtle

[solid gate]

@devout shadow that’s sadly true

[devout shadow]

@stable parcel but you have 2 turtle loader

[stable parcel]

OOF

[pine mason]

Have any of you played IS3-defender in a double platoon - if not IT IS AWESOME , you will like it!!!

[stark hatch]

I have played where i had the is-3 to cover when he was reloading and he was using the defender

[pine mason]

@stark hatch not as fun if you double defender you can just eliminate enemies without giving a dam about it

[glass otter]

Hey how to hulldown correctly

[glass otter]

Nobody ? ok..

[tulip edge]

how about hiding your hull for starters

[solid gate]

What hulldown?

[near forge]

In an effective Hulldown scenario, the only thing you show your opponents is your turret. Try in training rooms on various maps with your vahicles of choice to figure out what coverpoints on the map provide optimal cover to hide everything but your turret from the enemy. A great tank for this is the T29 (It is pretty much inpenetrable turretwise)

[glass otter]

Oke

[solid gate]

Never go to the city 🤦‍♂️

[maiden dagger]

@solid gate what are you a blitz expert ?

Do what you like buddies don't let these experts tell you what to do

[fallow venture]

You will easily find hull down positions in that one map with the train (I don't remember its name)

[solid gate]

City is where tanks go to lose. Don't go city.

[fallow venture]

City is horrible for tanks with low armour and depend on gun depression but good for hull down tanks and side scrapers

[solid gate]

A tank that is effective in the city can be almost if not just as effective out of the city. Going city takes your team into a corridor fight brawl that many tanks and players are simply unprepared for.

Going city is the last resort as far as I'm concerned.

[keen mantle]

Even if you have 5 degrees gun depression you can poke the side of a hill and be hull down

And tanks with bad gun depression generally have the strongest turrets

[fallow venture]

Something like the WZ-120 has 3 degrees of gun depression... How do you intend to use that in non-urban environment... A small rock on the ground can literally make your reticle go all the way up

[keen mantle]

Back up a hill to point your tank down, poke the side of a hill, peek a boom from behind a rock, use the terrain to hide your small profile and get behind, then shoot HE into an American tank's weak bum, etc etc

or maybe even find a divot in the ground

[solid gate]

Calling town because 2/7 of your team can effectively fight there is a selfish move that generally sets the the team up for failure.

But going on a lemming train the other side isn’t better imho

[keen mantle]

yeah tell me how an american tank with a somewhat strong turret and a weak easily penned hull is supposed to do to help you in a town lol

[solid gate]

Himmelsdorf disagrees

Himmelsdorf should burn

[brazen rampart]

yes

[keen mantle]

ah yes be every map is Himmelsdorf lol

[solid gate]

Worst map in the game.

Dynasty is worse

[brazen rampart]

we need the hill

[keen mantle]

I hate dynasty more than Himmelsdorf yeah

[brazen rampart]

true

[solid gate]

Btw I never said the American heavies should go town in every map

[keen mantle]

weirdly I enjoy Faust

[solid gate]

Let's move this to #maps-discussion

Faust is a good map. It doesn’t disadvantages any tank type

[brazen rampart]

its not that bad tbh

[keen mantle]

@solid gate I wasn't replying to you, I was commenting on the guy talking about what a bad gun depression tank was supposed to do in hills

[solid gate]

#maps-discussion

Wait, but American heavies have good gun depression if I’m right

[brazen rampart]

i don't know for sure

[tulip edge]

In general yes

[keen mantle]

@solid gate he was talking about bringing like a WZ-120 to the hills, when like an M103 in the city would be every bit as bad

[solid gate]

Ah I understand

[hollow notch]

What is wrong with wz in hills?

Much easier to hull down in hills

[solid gate]

#maps-discussion ...

[tulip edge]

I fight on ridgelines in my strv 74a2

[keen mantle]

He thinks that 3 degrees of gun depression means hills are useless because he doesn't know how playing bad gun depressions stuff works

[hollow notch]

Ah

[solid gate]

Sigh

Tbh 3 degrees is painful

[hollow notch]

Nah

[keen mantle]

It's painful but it in no way makes hills useless

[hollow notch]

Hills are better

[keen mantle]

yeah

Doesn't matter what you're driving, the hills are better

[hollow notch]

The maus prefers towns, but that's about it

[keen mantle]

yeah

[solid gate]

Maus prefers cheese and heat rounds

[keen mantle]

and being that nothing else should be in towns, the Maus shouldn't either

[tulip edge]

I prefer to fight in towns with my light tanks i dont like driving so quickly

[solid gate]

Maus has good gun depression though

[hollow notch]

Maus hull down is the same as maus hull up

[solid gate]

It can angle its turret

[hollow notch]

Does that change what I said?
I love my maus. It is my favorite tier 10

Should I reclaim t28htc, edelweiss, or nameless?

[solid gate]

T28 HTC

[keen mantle]

Nameless

[ancient iron]

So.... I have a quick question..... how good is the Kuro Mori Mine for t6 tourneys?

[wraith depot]

Bad

I sold Kuro Mori Mine andd bought IS5 crap. Tiger 2 is still be best heavy at tier 8.

[ancient iron]

bit confused.... did you just compare a t6 heavy (arguably a Heavium) to a tier 8?

[solid gate]

@wraith depot The Tiger 2? Really? Are you sure about that?

[wraith depot]

Yes!

[ancient iron]

also from my own experience playing tier 8 it seems like the Tiger 2 is kind of meh

[solid gate]

I think your definition of "best" may be different than ours...😆

[ancient iron]

not terrible.... but not great

[maiden dagger]

Best heavy at tier 8 is vk 100 atm

[wraith depot]

I played Tiger 2 before the Vk100 got released

[solid gate]

I don't play heavies but based on my experience the Lowe, T34, VK.100, IS-5, IS-6, and IS-3 are all far more effective than a Tiger2

[ancient iron]

from what I've seen it seems like for tech tree heavies the Tiger 2 is kind of the weakest of them.... save for the VK 4502 A

[maiden dagger]

VK 45 A is an abomination

[wraith depot]

Is3 and is5 are easy kill for Tiger 2.

Is5 is super inaccurate

[ancient iron]

maybe if they are being played poorly .-.

[solid gate]

Yeah... I'm not seeing it.

[maiden dagger]

Depend on the player in the is3/5 my guy

[wraith depot]

I missed with Is5 a shot from 100 meters fully aimed at T34.... just hoowwww

@solid gate are you Diablo3333?

[ancient iron]

you don't use heavies like them to snipe or to brawl against tanks with better DPM you use them in peek-a-boo style whenever possible

[solid gate]

No. I'm....

Wait for it....

SpartacusDiablo

[maiden dagger]

@ancient iron that's old thinking. You use tanks in whichever way you need them to

[wraith depot]

Tiger 2 is the best. 8.8cm German quality good accurate gun

[maiden dagger]

Who puts an 88 on a tiger 2 tf

[solid gate]

I fear a well driven Lowe far more than a well driven Tiger 2.

[wraith depot]

Oh I mean 10.5

[ancient iron]

Tiger 2 is also not very mobile, extremely tall, and compared to the others kind of an easy pen tbh.... .-.

[wraith depot]

But Löwe is premium tank and not so good mobility

Lol just sidescrape wih Tiger 2

[solid gate]

And the Tiger 2 is soft. I can just heat spam through the upper plate. Tiger 2 isn't a threat.

[wraith depot]

Sidescrape!

[solid gate]

Then I'll flank it.

[wraith depot]

Then have fun with tiger 2s gun

[halcyon mango]

😂 👌

[solid gate]

Not worried about a Tiger 2. Hell even a T32 is more of a threat because at least he can hull down well.

[wraith depot]

Or get shot by a td behind me

I think you all just cant play Tiger 2

[halcyon mango]

I have one

[solid gate]

I think a well driven Tiger 2 is about as rare as unicorn farts.

[halcyon mango]

I can play it well

[wraith depot]

Tiger 2 is against meds and lights much better than a IS5

[ancient iron]

I think the tiger 2 is just too old.... it can't really compete that well these days

[solid gate]

@ancient iron. You just nailed it.

[wraith depot]

Maybe I should push my stats in tiger 2. It was my first tier 8 tank and after grinding i sold it

[halcyon mango]

Of course he can they admired him bad at the start when you buy it but when it's finished ohhhhmggg

[solid gate]

It has been power creeped and is simply not very competitive any more.

[halcyon mango]

Armored*

[ancient iron]

tbh if I want something with the hull of a Tiger 2 to play at tier 8 I'd play the Jag 8,8 (using the upgraded gun because that 8,8 cm isn't really all that good)

it has a much more clearly defined role in the meta.... second line sniper support in tier 9, and can be used as front line support, if planned well, in tier 8

[dry notch]

@ancient iron plus the mastery bar is lower than most. One in four games in the Jag 8.8 for me has a happy meal at the end (M).

[tulip edge]

happy meal

[solid gate]

whats a good tank for new players like me?thats good for credits n stuff and mabye one good prenium to buy

[halcyon mango]

Take a good old KV -220 t

If it's not in the shop take Fv201 (A45

It's easy to handle and it's good in reload

[solid gate]

where the shop page?if i may ask

[halcyon mango]

In game on your R up and shop

[tulip edge]

How new are you exactly

[halcyon mango]

New new I think

[tulip edge]

Please dont buy high tier prems if you have only touched like sub tier five

[solid gate]

going through the tutoiral with bots and stuff

and battaling with bots

[halcyon mango]

LoL then don't buy anythin

Play first to Kv1 and Leopard

[tulip edge]

I suggest not buying a premium first. Get some experience with the game first. You are not going to make many credits as you most likely will struggle if you skip to the higher tiers

[halcyon mango]

@solid gate

[solid gate]

and btw what is the kv220 i looked for it and i have no clue where it is?jsut curious

[halcyon mango]

It's not even in the shop you can buy it only if there is an offer

It's good for New players

It's good for training and see what DMG and kind of game WoT Blitz. Do you play Warthunder?

[solid gate]

i might try it out

[halcyon mango]

Warthunder?

[ancient iron]

So what are some good Heaviums for tier 6 tourneys?

[halcyon mango]

Tier 6 off

Oof

Like Kv-2

[ancient iron]

the clan I am in tends to not get enough players for tier 8 or tier 10.... so we tend to do 6.... but I can't figure out which heavium to use (it's my prefered style) I have the VK P and Kuro.... but idk if they'd necessarily be good as heaviums .-.

[halcyon mango]

Or M6

kuro yes VK no

[ancient iron]

also we had a battle on Monday where everyone on our team was in a KV-2.... I can try to find the replay and drop it in the replay channel it was f-ing hilarious

we lost..... hard..... but worth it for the laughs

[halcyon mango]

Okay

[ancient iron]

I don't have the replay still :/ played 50 battles since then

[halcyon mango]

A good heavie is the T-34-45 fast good pen and armour

Ops heavie med*

Arl 44

Best français in game

[hot tendon]

Comet may have been power creeped but it is still very competitive and good hulldown

[solid gate]

why is this deleting my emssages?!

[ancient iron]

there;s a slowmode thing, if you send too quickly it will delete them automatically.... .-.

[regal zealot]

Or too many upper case letters

[raw perch]

TEST

?

[solid gate]

@solid gate. All caps or cursing will autodelete.

[raw perch]

DJWKLJAK

no it dosent?

[solid gate]

@raw perch. Is it necessary to test it?

[raw perch]

uhh

[solid gate]

The correct answer is no

[raw perch]

yeah thats what i ment

[keen mantle]

You need more it's like a good 16 letters straight of caps and it deletes, try 20 caps

[unkempt hornet]

M3lee is da worst tank ever

[regal zealot]

I like it. Good gun, decent traverse, quite mobile too

It just looks ugly, that’s all.

[ancient iron]

So how is this look for my TOG? I call her HMS Good Vibes (Here is a cookie if you get the joke.... 🍪 ) I mention her, and show a screen cap mostly because I wanted to discuss the TOG.... so does anyone like playing the tog for the sake of battle rather than for memes?)

[valid lodge]

Bit of both. Tog is a great meme, but also pretty fun. As long as you don't go up against a team of 3-4 derps.

[lethal bolt]

if you look closely, you can see a face on the camo

[regal zealot]

Is this the face you speak of?
He looks smug

[tulip sail]

The tog is a fun tank I've had it awhile and I love it

[solid gate]

I love the tog 2 on xbox

[karmic sky]

ltwt means light weight!!!

[raw perch]

😮

[hollow notch]

Nah

Little tiny wittle t54
@karmic sky

[karmic sky]

:/

[glass solstice]

is t95e2 good?

[mint kettle]

No

Terrible tank because of average stats and cupola on top of turret

[real jay]

KV-2 with calibrated shells is also fun :))))))))

[devout shadow]

@ancient iron monday was 5.6

[solid gate]

@real jay what is calibrated shells?

[inland osprey]

I'd rather use gun rammer
I can't hit most of my shots, so I'd prefer the next shell in as soon as possible

[vocal seal]

Is the badger ever going to be a thing in this game? @frigid ember

[pine mason]

@vocal seal go to #general-blitz-discussion and put a thinking face emoji

[inland osprey]

Probably
Maybe @vocal seal

[pine mason]

good

[vocal seal]

i hope so

[inland osprey]

And add the FV4005 II
Muhahahaha

[pine mason]

yeah boiiii

[vocal seal]

Lol

🤔

[keen mantle]

Charioteer 🌚

[pine mason]

Archer

[vocal seal]

add arty🙃

[keen mantle]

Charioteer is my bae on PC

[pine mason]

I want the spaghetti 65

[inland osprey]

No
We have the 183 and people are already complaining @vocal seal

[vocal seal]

i know

[pine mason]

@inland osprey r/whoooosh

[inland osprey]

Bigger guns gets bigger nerfs

[vocal seal]

But they can replace the 183 with the Badger and add the 4005

[keen mantle]

I'm conflicted, I want the Charioteer and Conway, but I don't want a second 183 in the game.

[inland osprey]

I'd rather see a FV4005 and a FV215B 183 in a game rather that two FV215B 183

[real jay]

@solid gate Calibrated shells increase your penetration

[ocean mauve]

I need my t14 to have better dispersion

[honest delta]

Will this tank have those decals? Coz is really cute with them

[keen mantle]

you know that tank's already in the game right

it's in a bundle that shows up for new accounts

[honest delta]

How much gold ?

Or is for money ?

[regal zealot]

It looks cute

[keen mantle]

@honest delta I think it's 5 dollars and comes with a week of premium and 250 gold, if I remember correctly

[little stirrup]

su 122 44 .when I play solo 90% games play whit tier 8...in platoon whir other tier 7 ,90% games im top tier...dont see logic

[honest delta]

@keen mantle ok, thx anyway

[honest delta]

Jesus for collectors is supposed to be in credits in offer tab

[hoary lava]

u remember that gup and is5 issue

is5 was worth i got like 60%wr8

[honest delta]

Got Ace Tanker in rating battles with likr 5.7k dmg

And 5 kills with IS-5

[ocean mauve]

@little stirrup it is match maker mistery

[covert scroll]

@honest delta that look like a T-60

i recongnized it by play MOWAS

or a T-70

[honest delta]

@covert scroll actually is T-70/57

[covert scroll]

Yeah

[unique spear]

heyy everyone its me again! The annoying dude who asks too many questions and is a noob!!! How's everyone doin!?

[dry notch]

Crossing my fingers for another offering for the Type 62 in Chinese New Year

[unique spear]

hmm alright

i find it harder to deal with the su 152 tbh

also is it just me or i had 5 matches continuos with 1k dmg nd my avg dmg went up only by 13?

[west stag]

ISU is fun tank big boom

see that best answer to this question for you is to get both. Which I suggest you do

@unique spear

Also if you have a high amount of games with low damage then of course its not gonna increase much only because if 5 games.

[unique spear]

true

[solid gate]

@dry notch. Why I'm the world did you pass on it last time???

[dry notch]

Saved my gold for the Cheiftan Mark 6. It was worth it.

The last day i picked up the 8,500 gold chest at a reduced price in hopes that the Chinese New Year would bring it back. I figure a $22 Cheiftan wouldnt happen again but a well priced Type 62 would happen again soon.

[solid gate]

Fair enough. All I can say is man you are missing out, the Type 62 is a riot and a half!

[novel gate]

T34 is good tank ?

[lean light]

Yep

[quaint jetty]

Chieftain Mk 6 is a medium, change my mind

[sly cedar]

Titled as "Heavy", acts like "Tank Destroyer".

And yes, Chieftain is a fake HT.

[past crater]

Hevium

[hollow delta]

Helsing titled as "tank destroyer", acts like everything

[sly cedar]

while T26E4 isn't like a typical med, too slow and thicc frontial turret.

[solid gate]

While E 25 was designed as a light and E 50 as an heavy

[past crater]

Helsing cant be played as td

[hollow delta]

Can

Have you never seen kids camp in that tank?

[past crater]

Its not reliable doin that

[hollow delta]

You'll hit the first shot

[past crater]

Is it reliable then?

[hollow delta]

2nd is a wild guess

I never said reliable.

Just said that it can be played like a TD

[past crater]

Eheh you can play a PZ I C as a td

[hollow delta]

Exactly

But ppl won't.

[devout shadow]

Camping means play like td?. That make Sans to me

[hollow delta]

Please stop.

Sans you've joined everything went down hill.

Just don't be to sans-itive about it

[devout shadow]

Yes i can stop. But i won't do that

[hollow delta]

Should have continued with the "sans" pun

Butchya didn't.

[devout shadow]

My puns are a real Sansation 😂

[hollow delta]

Sans good to me

[sly cedar]

At least those puns won't triggered some sansitive issues.

[solid gate]

You think so, but I sometimes Sans salt from people

[sly cedar]

Yea it make sans when you sans free salt from people that's really sansitive.

[solid gate]

I’m out of Sans puns !

[devout shadow]

:GWhighpolySansDab:

I'm dead indside 😭 no dabing Sans

[faint isle]

https://youtu.be/SCcfWNezzK8

[oblique plover]

Helo guys

Do OBJ 263 worth it
Im thinking in grind it

[solid gate]

Yes good tanks with good frontal armor good mobility good fire rate but don’t get circled because side armor is bad and also gun depression is low

[oblique plover]

Im gona grind it

Wats its reload??

[solid gate]

Like 8.1 secs with 100% crew and rammer

[oblique plover]

Thx

What a good reload

[solid gate]

Be careful to taller tanks because they can shoot directly your engine deck

[oblique plover]

Ok

[weak hawk]

is the Chrysler already added?

[solid gate]

Nope

[solid gate]

Supertest

[weak hawk]

I thought that was a separate server tbh

[solid gate]

Idk
WG just give the tank to ppl so they can finalize the balance

[weak hawk]

Ah yes the famous "balance"

[solid gate]

The cough « balance »

[weak hawk]

It seemed really fast

So it's gonna be a premium, which sadly isn't much of a surprise

[solid gate]

I will DW2 Back in the game Where too like this

I am German ok chill i am not so good in English

[tulip edge]

@solid gate what are you trying to say? Can you try to word it better?(your first message)

Are you saying you want the dw2 back in the game?

Why are you being so harsh dude

[abstract harbor]

Was the tier 4 brit valentine removed or a collectible tank ?

[tulip edge]

I believe it became a collector tank @abstract harbor

[abstract harbor]

Ok thx

Never saw the list of tanks removed

[ancient iron]

how good is the A45?

like... is it worth getting?

[tulip edge]

Unsure. Sorry.

[tough dune]

If you like fast rof tank with little armour then go for it.

[ancient iron]

I decided to instead get the T34 because big ol' f-you gun

[solid gate]

the amx 13 90 is a hard tank for me

its damage per minute is horriable

and got its more of a he magnet than the ru

[ancient iron]

what are the recommended equipment for T34? >.>

[tidal ore]

sa

[quaint jetty]

Advice on Obj. 704?

[turbid pond]

Hot

Its fat

[fallow venture]

The skorpion is about the gun, other than that HE will pen you and take big chunks of hitpoints off you

I was playing against it in an ISU-152 and how satisfying it was dealing about 900+ damage with HE

[valid lodge]

The fact you still get ads and have bought stuff

[fallow venture]

That's free gold for watching an ad @valid lodge

You choose to watch or not

[valid lodge]

Well usually people lose the ads after purchasing something

[fallow venture]

Yea in the games that depend on ads, WoTB doesn't depend on ads
In some games you have to watch an ad to do something to keep going, you don't need that in WoT

I don't think it's any problem

[valid lodge]

I don't either.
I just wish i got ads. Never got them even before i started buying stuff.
A lot of the people though will getting ads after they buy something (even if they only used the gold from the ads). So you've gotten stuff AND still get to watch ads for free gold makes me a tad jealous.

To be clear I'm not bashing you or wg

[ancient iron]

1.... probably not the right area to talk about ads since this is vehicle discussion.... .-. and 2..... wait there are ads you can watch for gold?

[keen mantle]

Some people have then yes

[fallow venture]

It was already in the game but got removed @ancient iron

[ancient iron]

which servers do you all play on? (that could be why some have it and others don't) .-.

also is the armour improving equipment useful on any tanks or just always useless? >.>

[fallow venture]

@solid gate I don't have it atm

I'm on EU

[ancient iron]

I am on NA and don't have it so it might be a limited run thing .-.

[tulip sail]

I hate the bdr so much

[hollow moth]

What do you think about this tank?

That's cowboy driving an Ankylosaurus and using a lazer bazooka, a green tophat and a anormal skin in the dinosaur

What do you think about it?

[flint igloo]

How much gold did the su-76 sell for?

[raven socket]

@flint igloo not sure. Forgotten already

[fallow venture]

@flint igloo I don't think it's much cuz it was a tier 3

[tired girder]

@ancient iron armour improving equipment can be useful. On most heavies of course you run it. But on some meds/light i also run it instead of HP. Specially if it boost armour value enough to stop HE shells at places in my lights. the chance to not recieve full dmg on HE hitting you always trumps the 100 more HP in my opinion.

[reef shale]

The Chrysler K is now in the shop- 17-15.000 Gold - who need it?

[gritty condor]

i wouldnt even buy it for 5k. i'd take if for free cuz its a prem but i'd never buy it

[neat bison]

nerf 100.01P next patch its still overperforming

[devout shadow]

Vk issnt op

You just not good ernoug

The gun issnt the best, 🚮
No speed ➡
No traverse speed 🔄
Much weak spots

U think turret is not penetrable?
I think vk have 5 spots

[regal zealot]

Um, two typical weakspots. Hatch and lower plate.
Turret ring is a weakspot, but pretty tough to hit. The cheeks are small too.

[devout shadow]

Idk the english word, but it have the same weakspot like maus

Left and right from gun is a small weakspot

[candid glen]

Cheeks

[devout shadow]

Idk

[regal zealot]

The armor besides the gun mantlet of the Maus and it’s subsidiaries are known as cheeks @devout shadow

[devout shadow]

Ah

[crude sorrel]

Oh boy op PC tank comes to Blitz

[tired girder]

The Chrysler is totally differnet on blitz no worries @crude sorrel, also the vk is not OP.

[crude sorrel]

O

[tired girder]

They balanced the tank based on the game, aswell since we have a different prammo mechanics it not OP like PC. Still a strong tank though

[crude sorrel]

Me want then

[tired girder]

Sure, 15k gold.. and its all yours lol

Only reason why im holding. Back in buying it. I already got to many tier 8 hevaies. And 15k is a quite costly

[crude sorrel]

Never mind then!

[dark socket]

FCM 50 t gud tenk

[crude sorrel]

Indeed

CDC as well

[dark socket]

I like my FCM more than CDC, more reliable with it's armor

[crude sorrel]

CDC has hella good gun handling on the move

[dark socket]

yeah, it was originally designed as a TD, it's made for support

[crude sorrel]

Wot

[dark socket]

yeah, for example: look at the FCM 50 t gun, it's the DCA 45, then look at the AMX CDC's gun, it's the AC DCA 45, and if you look at the French TD's their guns also have AC in their gun description, and Chasseur de chars (CDC) translate into 'Tank Hunter' in French

[crude sorrel]

Huh

[dark socket]

I had to do some research to make sure I was right, don't wanna give out false information

[autumn schooner]

Does anyone else think the E 50 M need a legendary skin or is it just me?

[dark socket]

yeah, that'd be pretty cool

[autumn schooner]

Ram on the front of it

Because let’s be real that’s all anyone uses it for.

[dark socket]

yeah, but then you can end up giving people the wrong idea about the E 50 M, more than just ramming

[autumn schooner]

I know but it will look nice in the end so.

[dark socket]

I am a KV-5 addict and ik my limits

I think...

Gotta go up that Castilla hill

[solid gate]

Chinese medium or heavies? What's better

[quasi mirage]

heavies

you get the guns earlier.

[dark socket]

You are way better off going for heavies first

you get modules for the mediums, which are hard to grind

[quasi mirage]

or get free xp nub/s

[manic shoal]

So yeah what the heck is this thing

[quasi mirage]

tier 7 kv2

[manic shoal]

From where though?

An event in the future? Or an event in the past

[pulsar sinew]

Future

[spare forge]

Whoever was complaining about VK 100.01 this is for you

[pine mason]

@spare forge I like the logo in the left bottom corner "made with mematic"

[spare forge]

Custom watermark requires paying money

You people don’t deserve that luxury in my memes

[pine mason]

we truly don't

[solid gate]

Funny I add my own watermarks for free

[devout shadow]

If u cant pen vk100, u a nuhb

Oh no i sayed the N word

😂

[tulip sail]

Or you failtooned

[devout shadow]

Yea im a nuhb
Aand i sayed the n word again

[valid lodge]

I don't like the Chrysler K.
Wish i could get a refund.

[devout shadow]

To late

[shrewd basalt]

RIP my IS-2SH because of Chrysler K

[solid gate]

IS-2SH has still way better gun, smaller profile, and sides aren’t flat

[devout shadow]

Earth issnt flat 🙄

[dark socket]

You have better pen and a much better engine deck than the Chrysler

[devout shadow]

Oh wait u mean tanks ok the tank side is flat lmao

[dark socket]

You see the crazy stuff flat earthers believe @devout shadow ?

[solid gate]

Yes bcz Chrysler K sides are flat as hell

[devout shadow]

I saw a 🍩 formed earth 😐

[solid gate]

I saw « earth doesn’t exist »

[dark socket]

I listen to a Podcast and they were talken about flat earthers one time and one of the three said "force them to march to the ends of earth"

[pine mason]

@dark socket hold a sec

[dark socket]

Triforce?

[pine mason]

@dark socket https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUhjF0k10WbNf-t1244XkxA here are some good flat earth debunking videos

[dark socket]

ik it's not flat

but turns out flat Earthers believe the Earth ends in a giant ice wall that keeps the water from spilling over

like it's Ice age or something

and if you try to approach it and I quote "the UN will turn you back with their vast fleet of ships"

[solid gate]

Earth discussion #off-topic-discussion (before mods strike)

[dark socket]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/390651132416098304/535865023692668928/Rebel_Frozen.gif

man, I didn't notice that, and I don't like typing about something in one chat to another so I'm just not gonna finish

[quasi mirage]

@spare forge the vk 100p has too good traversse IMO for such a super heavy

[tawdry sphinx]

I want BT-42 as a hybrid nation tank with Finnish crew voices ;-;

[knotty tiger]

I concur with u @tawdry sphinx

[stone minnow]

VK 100.01 P : Has a Terrible Lower Plate

Players: don’t aim for lower plate

VK 100.01 P: Bounces shot

[fallow venture]

The lower plate sucks on the VK unless it's somehow angled and you're in a light tank... Not an easy pen then

[spare forge]

Wait, you’re saying it’s hard for a light tank to pen a superheavy from the front?

[stone minnow]

Pfft

[hot tendon]

Should this go in memes?

[fallow venture]

@spare forge I was talking about the lower plate not the entirety of the front

[spare forge]

Have you heard of this thing called flanking?

[stone minnow]

That doesn’t always work, but then again players like me exist so it may

[hot tendon]

And aiming

[fallow venture]

@spare forge I'm talking about the possibility of penning

[hot tendon]

Load gold lol

[fallow venture]

I don't use gold @hot tendon

[tulip sail]

It's also generally not alone

[hot tendon]

Dab the 2 key

[spare forge]

You shouldn’t pen a superheavy frontally so idk why this topic is being brought up

[hot tendon]

^

[tulip sail]

Only td and other super heavies should be able to

[spare forge]

Either aim with gold or flank. It’s not that hard

[fallow venture]

You can pen the lower plate of the VK in some meds and heavies @spare forge