vehicles-discussion

[half wyvern]

that is just dumb

[solid gate]

That's how it is and will probably stay like that so get over it

[viscid dragon]

If you shot heat, it might have just fizzled out when it hit the viewport. Heat doesn’t go through spaced armor

[pulsar sinew]

Well. It’s probably not modeled as a part that does damage for 1

You can shoot a lot of tanks view ports and do 0 damage

You’re also wrong because you shot upwards through the view port as well. It would never have entered the tank itself

@half wyvern

[half wyvern]

it was HEAT, it would have penetrated if that viewport wasnt there

and its not that i cant aim, i didnt see that tiny thing

[half wyvern]

theres so many of those kind of things on vehicles that are for decoration

[pulsar sinew]

View ports are for decoration?

[half wyvern]

no

[half wyvern]

like this kind of thing

[solid gate]

Learn to use ammo and shoot HE next time

[pulsar sinew]

Oh. You don’t like realism and actual modeling

[half wyvern]

not what im saying

[pulsar sinew]

You’re 5m away

Why are you in sniper mode in the first place?

[half wyvern]

because unscoped never works for me

[pulsar sinew]

I’m unsurprised

Have you ever thought it isn’t the game?

[half wyvern]

id rather look through sniper mode just to make sure i can pen it, and i never pay attention to those view ports as that has never happened to me over 2.5k battles

[pulsar sinew]

The entire hull is grey

You couldn’t have missed if you were in 3rd person

[half wyvern]

but how could i know that it was all grey

[pulsar sinew]

Instead you go into sniper mode and shoot one of three places that you wouldn’t do damage

“I can aim”

[half wyvern]

i've never fired HEAT at jpanther 2 at that angle

[pulsar sinew]

How do you not know where to pen a jpanther 2?

[half wyvern]

i know, im not dumb

[pulsar sinew]

“but how could i know that it was all grey”

[half wyvern]

is it bad that i actually wanna know where my shot is going?

[pulsar sinew]

In this case, yes

[alpine carbon]

By the bloody reticle on the vehicle

[pulsar sinew]

If you were in 3rd person you just aim down and press fire

Easy kill

The fact that you messed it up is amazing actually

[solid gate]

If you shot HE anywhere except the gun it would've killed him

[alpine carbon]

Literally shows where you are aiming

[pulsar sinew]

You didn’t have to be so close either

Idk why that was necessary

[half wyvern]

i prefer shooting HEAT to finish off enemies because i dont trust in splash

[pulsar sinew]

Why wouldn’t you use AP?

[solid gate]

How did that work for you now?

[half wyvern]

because i cant pen it with ap

[pulsar sinew]

That’s the easiest choice in the world

[alpine carbon]

Because thinking isn’t his strong suite

[pulsar sinew]

Yes you can 😂😂😂

[solid gate]

God help me

[pulsar sinew]

Using ap

[half wyvern]

and ap could get a lucky bounce

[pulsar sinew]

“I can’t pen”

Or you could aim

[tulip edge]

Real men shoot only He

[pulsar sinew]

Like a normal person

@tulip edge are you saying girls can’t aim?

[half wyvern]

i dont know how much splash borsig does, could you shut up now?

[pulsar sinew]

You’re being rude because you memed yourself?

[alpine carbon]

You don’t know your own vehicle smh

[half wyvern]

this arguement is pointless

[pulsar sinew]

Yes. Helping you is pointless

We do this every week

[viscid dragon]

Y’all are just being mean at this point, can we move on

[alpine carbon]

Every other day

[pulsar sinew]

Always new “issues” with easy tanks

@viscid dragon it’s not mean when you bring it on yourself

[half wyvern]

this wasnt ment to be a big deal

[solid gate]

You made it a big deal yourself

[viscid dragon]

You’re being one heck of an example

[half wyvern]

i just wanted to know how it didnt damage him, you dont have to continue on arguing, just stop

[alpine carbon]

And the end result is always the same. Too thick skulled to accept good advice.

[pulsar sinew]

“T34 has paper armor” plays it on flat ground like an is tank

[tulip edge]

I cant pen a sp ic please help

[half wyvern]

i dont play t34 on flat ground

[viscid dragon]

Did you shoot the gun

[half wyvern]

no, viewport

[viscid dragon]

No

[pulsar sinew]

She shot the view port on the front hull

[spare forge]

Trust me you’re never going to win an argument against raik dealing with bs penetration mechanics

[viscid dragon]

I’m talking to the lad who can’t pen the Spahpanzer 1 C

[pulsar sinew]

Rh stop bleeding

[spare forge]

He’s had too much practice

[solid gate]

Pffff 😂😂😂😂

[pulsar sinew]

“I’m getting blind shots”

😂

[tulip edge]

Sp 1c has too much armour it needs a nerf IMO

[spare forge]

“Just shoot the bush on the right”

[half wyvern]

so why does me using sniper mode trigger you so much?

[pulsar sinew]

It’s not needed at 5 meters

And it cost you a kill

[half wyvern]

its my personal preference

[pulsar sinew]

And this happened

I guess you like bouncing easy kills then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[half wyvern]

sniper mode wasnt the issue

[pulsar sinew]

It was

[half wyvern]

and as you said, it didnt bounce

[solid gate]

This guy is too stubborn to accept he screwed it up

[pulsar sinew]

Auto aim locks on to the hull

Aim down and easy kill

[tulip edge]

Sniper mode at that range is just annoying third person would have bren easier

[pulsar sinew]

^^^

[viscid dragon]

The result would have been the same if they shot in 3rd person and it hit the viewport

[half wyvern]

i prefer sniper, i never use 3rd person as i dont like it

[pulsar sinew]

But you wouldn’t hit the view port

[tulip edge]

So do you just drive around in sniper mode

[pulsar sinew]

I guess don’t complain when you bounce easy kill shots then

[half wyvern]

i hit the view port because i dont pay attention to them, not because of sniper mode

[tulip edge]

Do you play light tanks and drive in sniper mode all game

[half wyvern]

i dont play lights

[pulsar sinew]

You do

[solid gate]

Start paying attention then

[pulsar sinew]

The same way as a tiger p

[half wyvern]

i dont even play lights

[pulsar sinew]

Amx 13 75

[half wyvern]

didnt you see i sold it?

[pulsar sinew]

Lol

Of course you did

[half wyvern]

oh and now your gonna insult me for not liking a light tank

[spare forge]

COD in sniper mode 🤔

[pulsar sinew]

You don’t have to like light tanks

You don’t know how to play light tanks

[half wyvern]

and i dont want to learn
especially not from you

[pulsar sinew]

@spare forge Alexa has 1.0 spots in both the tiger p and amx 13 75

It’s clear you don’t want to learn

[half wyvern]

and why is that such a big deal to you, keep bringing it up, i dont like or know how to play light tanks, im a heavy and td guy

[pulsar sinew]

Sure you are

[spare forge]

I have 1.2 spots in Maus

[half wyvern]

look

[solid gate]

Arguing with this guy is pointless because he's too damn ... to have normal conversation with
I won't swear bcs of him

[tulip edge]

You should learn how to play light tanks its pretty useful if you get experience in all four roles

[half wyvern]

heavy and td are the highest

[alpine carbon]

Doesn’t mean you know how to play them

[half wyvern]

the mediums are up there because vk 30.01p and that kind of thing

[dark grotto]

Maus OP spotter

[solid gate]

@spare forge well once I had 9k assistant damage in a Maus, it was crazy, 1st class with 1900 damage 😂

[tulip edge]

I have a 7.0 spotting ratio in my t95

[half wyvern]

i got epic award for spotting in rhm b wt on normandy

[tulip edge]

weird flex

[spare forge]

What @tulip edge said is right, you can’t be a good heavy driver without an understanding of how mediums play

[dark grotto]

Bring back binocs maus

[tulip edge]

You can play your tanks so much better if you don’t restrict yourself to a role and learn what other tanks are like

[half wyvern]

i dont want to

[tulip edge]

Then you wont improve as much lmao

[half wyvern]

why is it such a big deal to everyone that i dont want to play light tanks, i dont understand

[tulip edge]

Im just saying it will benefit you if you dont restrict yourself

[half wyvern]

i main heavy, and i want it to stay like that

[tulip edge]

I used to only play heavies and tds. But then i decided to start doing mediums and it gives you a whole different perspective

[half wyvern]

learning a light tank wont help with playing a td or a heavy

and before you bring up clan wars or something, other people can be the light or medium

[tulip edge]

Light tanks are about positioning and not dying so quickly, which isnt so different from a Td role

[half wyvern]

but im not into that thing, clan wars and rating are more competitive and tryhard

[spare forge]

Playing a light tank teaches you about their view range, how easily they spot, the differences in penetration

[pulsar sinew]

The big deal is that you slander tanks that you have no idea how to play. I don’t want other players thinking that tanks are bad because you don’t learn the play styles

That’s a problem

[half wyvern]

if the game states that the 13 75 gun is a tier lower, you know its underpowered

your just going against the devs then

[solid gate]

How about we stop this conversation with this guy he's too dumb
I had to say it, he is

[pulsar sinew]

Omg back to the amx 13 75 has a bad gun

[half wyvern]

dumb for not liking a light tank lmao

[fair shale]

T71 > Amx 13 75

[pulsar sinew]

Probably is trying to shoot hull down heavies from the front

[solid gate]

No for your behaviour

[half wyvern]

arguing? like everyone else here is doing

[tulip edge]

Light tanks arent really about firepower my dude

[pulsar sinew]

No one else is arguing

You’re complaining

[half wyvern]

well you are, arguing with me

[pulsar sinew]

We are telling you that you are wrong

That’s not arguing

[tulip edge]

You are complaining about the gun because you like playing heavies and Tds which generally carry the bigger guns

[half wyvern]

wrong about what

[fair shale]

Just play t49

[pulsar sinew]

Honestly? Just about everything

[tulip edge]

Lmao

[pulsar sinew]

T34 is op

Amx 13 75 is good

[half wyvern]

i would @fair shale , but i cba grinding the m4 and chaffee

[fair shale]

:3

[solid gate]

Oh I cant pen t34's turret in my t7 light tank, this tank is bad...

[pulsar sinew]

Jpanther 2 is easy to pen unless ultra hull down

[tulip edge]

did he say t34 was bad?

[half wyvern]

then it cant even shoot at you

[pulsar sinew]

@tulip edge yes

[half wyvern]

yes, back in the day in my first 50 games
and then another 50

[tulip edge]

yeah okay i understand

[pulsar sinew]

Sent me a replay of camping in a t34 on flat ground

It’s not an is tank

[half wyvern]

but now i like the tank and i learned its playstyle

[tulip edge]

Ok

[solid gate]

What are we even talking about then...

[half wyvern]

i went mid on canyon, dished out 3k damage and got banged by an isu-152 in the side of turret as im about to finish off a tank

👌🏿 atleast we won

i dont really understand rhm b wt penetration values, i always penetrate side of is-3 frontal plate when game tells me its red and i deal 666 damage, how does that work?

[pulsar sinew]

🤦🏼‍♂️

There’s penetration rng

[half wyvern]

the fact ive never bounced it

[pulsar sinew]

You’re beyond help

[half wyvern]

and once it went up to his turret and still penetrated idk how

[tulip edge]

This game is 90% rng

[pulsar sinew]

The flat spot on the turret...

[half wyvern]

especially with a gun like rhm b wt and other ones like that in tech tree where it does 480-800 damage, when a tanks on 750 hp its just luck

and i always do 690 in that circumstance and get minced up 😭

[pulsar sinew]

It’s a 640 gun

What do you expect?...

[solid gate]

🍿

[half wyvern]

a lucky shot 😉

[tulip edge]

Lmao i can sense the disappointment

[pulsar sinew]

Maybe if you pen 3 in a row before it

[half wyvern]

and btw that shot didnt go into top of is-3 turret, it went near his cheek area where it was redder than mars

is that a word?

[pulsar sinew]

So then you max rolled pen

[half wyvern]

"redder" im not sure if thats a word or not

alright peace guys, gonna try get my wt pz iv

[solid gate]

Thank God

[tulip edge]

Lmao

Gonna come back complaining about the armour

[pulsar sinew]

“Wtf why are people shooting he at me?”

[dark grotto]

1375 succ

[half wyvern]

yo guys how come my rhm b wt never bounces?

[pulsar sinew]

“Omg it penned me”

[tulip edge]

Lmao

[half wyvern]

do you think if i put enhanced armour equipment ill bounce shots?

[tulip edge]

@half wyvern have fun getting module damaged every split second

Put enhanced armour

[half wyvern]

ok for real bye now

[solid gate]

Oh I had one guy who said "pls dont shoot me pls I'm sad" to enemy team and spammed that a few times. Then he went to a hill in front of everyone, got deleted and said "I told you dont shoot me!!"

Was a special story, I didn't know weather to laugh or cry 😂😂

[tulip edge]

I remember when i was against an enemy team who had a toon that were pacifists

[olive sky]

should I run armor or HP on T-54?

thanks

[alpine carbon]

Better off running HP. Armor is practically useless on a T-54. All the guns run high pen and will fire gold regardless. @olive sky extra hp is always better.

[half wyvern]

running armour on rhm is useless, you got 0mm turret armour, it doesnt add anything

[solid gate]

It has 20mm of turret armor

[half wyvern]

how can you not pen a rhm turret with he

[pulsar sinew]

You hit the gun

[half wyvern]

well dont hit the gun

[pulsar sinew]

Isn’t that obvious?

[half wyvern]

even with a 0.416 dispersion gun i still penetrate rhm turret with he at like 200 meters

[dark grotto]

I hit the tracks rip

[half wyvern]

ive never not penned its turret

[pulsar sinew]

I don’t think anyone intentionally hits the gun on a borsig, waffle 4 or grille

[half wyvern]

i dont take the shot unless im certain it will hit, because the shell velocity isnt great on borsig top gun

when someones behind a bush then i just fire HEAT because i cant see their armour plates and id rather have a guarantee pen

[pulsar sinew]

“You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take”

Borsig almost never needs heat

[half wyvern]

unless its like a light tank

[tulip edge]

Shooting those tanks can be extremely troll with the gun, especially the grille

[pulsar sinew]

Same thing with the isu/Su

[half wyvern]

i run 5 heat, because against things like the vk 45 and vk 100 ill need it

[pulsar sinew]

Wait

Which vk 45...

[alpine carbon]

Obviously the tier 7

[half wyvern]

tier 9

i want to get vk 100 so bad but i hate tiger p, its so slow

and that huge stock turret cupola

nearly as bad as at-8's tumor

[pulsar sinew]

So the tiger p is bad because it’s slow now

[half wyvern]

and the tumor on its turret

[alpine carbon]

The tiger p was always slow

[dark grotto]

VK100 is slower 😃

[pulsar sinew]

Vk 100 is both of those things

Is the vk 100 bad too?

[half wyvern]

nah, op

[pulsar sinew]

You’re literally never happy

[dark grotto]

If you don’t like slow tanks, stop going for the VK100

[half wyvern]

im happy with borsig, t34, is-3, and some other ones i dont have time to name

[pulsar sinew]

You have time to infinitely complain

[half wyvern]

i dont like tiger p's gun, i prefer high alpha and slow reload

[alpine carbon]

You prefer things that don’t require skill

[half wyvern]

thats why i want vk 100, op armour, good damage gun

[pulsar sinew]

Candy crush

There’s always candy crush Alexa

[alpine carbon]

That might be too hard for him

[dark grotto]

Candy crush has very high alpha

You’d like it there

[half wyvern]

its not really a thing about skill, i just dont like the guns that do little damage but fast reload

[alpine carbon]

Because as earlier it was proved that you can’t aim?

[half wyvern]

?

i can aim, i dont like little damage guns, is that not enough for you?

[alpine carbon]

Aren’t you the one who camps in a T34?

[half wyvern]

bringing up the past to the present

how many times do i have to say, not anymore

if you could read it would help me out

[alpine carbon]

The past gives an information base for the present.

[half wyvern]

not really, i have changed

[solid gate]

I love how he is going again...

[half wyvern]

i didnt start it

i just said i dont like tiger p, and in this server when you dont like something people will slate you for it

[tulip edge]

If u dont like low alpha guns play gravedigger or at2

[wanton granite]

Heye everybody, do you know an app for tanks stats?

[dark grotto]

No. Blitzstars has them though.

[tulip sail]

I actually agree with Alexa this time the tiger p might be really good but I just dont enjoy playing it

[solid gate]

I could send you my stats of tiger p but this is not the channel for it

[dull ether]

What would happen if the Badger gets added to Blitz

On PC, it has the highest base dpm...

[solid gate]

What line takes the least xp to get to tier10?

Anyone know

[dull ether]

That could easily competes with the 263 and the SU 122 54

[restive sparrow]

Which pathway is better in German tech tree, vk 36.01 H or 30.01 P?

[dull ether]

It depends on which tank that you want

[dim sail]

VK 30.01 p

[rustic zealot]

Vk 30.01 p

Beceaus tiger Op

[twilit wigeon]

Both tigers are Op, just the P version I consider to be better because of its 200mm frontal armour

And before they got their dpm nerfed they were both amazing to play

[dull ether]

Who was the Badger to replace the 183?

[restive sparrow]

@twilit wigeon are they nerfed now you mean?

If vk 30 is nerfed, I'd rather keep going on vk 36

[twilit wigeon]

A while ago both Tigers had their dpms buffed
But since then they've been lowered

@restive sparrow The Vk30 wasn't nerfed

It's really good with the 8,8 gun because it is really fast & maneuverable(Vk30)

[restive sparrow]

So choose vk 30? I heard vk 72 is only good once experienced enough as a player, otherwise choose e100

[dull ether]

I think the E 100 but go by the Panther line

That’s what I did

[restive sparrow]

And maus is said to have bad side scrap angles

[twilit wigeon]

I haven't experienced the vk72 but E 100 is a grind to the 152 gun

[dull ether]

True, it’s annoying to get to the E 100 maxed gun

[twilit wigeon]

Maus is not bad at sidescraping
It that people pen the turret cheeks with prem ammor

[dull ether]

^

[restive sparrow]

But it gives us something to work for in tier 10 unlike other tanks

Which is better armor wise? Vk 30 pathway or vk 36?

[twilit wigeon]

Vk36 has better overall armour, but I would suggest the vk30 b/c it has enough armour to bounces shots while being able to get to place to place.

[dull ether]

And you reserve sidescrape in the VK 30

[restive sparrow]

Seems I'll have to regrind on the pz again

[dull ether]

Which Pz?

Pz IV

[restive sparrow]

Yes

Also, once I'm done with vk 30, should I get maus?

[solid gate]

No

"I changed your ways" yea sure, you're still a troll @solid gate

@restive sparrow dont listen to @solid gate

Please move out of this channel this is #vehicles-discussion

And stop insulting me please.

I don't see an insult anywhere 🤔

Calling me a troll because I said No is stupid

You are trolling

Please tell me from one word how I am trolling

He asked a question, I answered. I didn’t know that was trolling

[spice jetty]

🤔

[restive sparrow]

Guys, there's no need go argue, it's a question I asked, there's no need for a heated conversation

[spice jetty]

@restive sparrow sometimes people are like that

Maus is a goood tank

but u gotta angle a lot

the turret cheeks are weak head on and just angle it away every time you fire

and also.. side scraping is a good idea in maus.. and your job is to NOT do damage but SOAK up damage and be at the front line..

[twilit wigeon]

I once killed a maus with my rhm once...
My friend made a fail platoon

[restive sparrow]

I'm not going to take any sides, but an argument solves nothing. If you leave whatever bad past there has been between you two, I'd suggest you two take the beef between you two and chew it up. Now this time around, I dont need an unnecessary fight

[spice jetty]

id say.. just let them be @restive sparrow

[restive sparrow]

From what I understand e100 is a good damage dealer, vk is potent for those very experienced and maus soaks up damage like a sponge

[spice jetty]

welll

e100 has lots of weakspots tho and it really depends on what you like

if you like making 183s rage quit the maus if you like making the 183 run for the hills an e100 is the simple way @restive sparrow

because 183s can bounce maus

no vise versa.

other way around.. oof i sometimes dont watch what im typing

[dark grotto]

VK72 has a lot more weakspots no?

[restive sparrow]

I'm more of a kind of person who gets on a tier 4 Matilda, get into the center of the enemy, and receive no damage and cause chaos and havok

[spice jetty]

yes its basically like a maltida

[restive sparrow]

Is maus like that?

[spice jetty]

oh andif u get any opportunity

[dark grotto]

E 100 with the armor boost has thicc angling

[spice jetty]

ram meds or other heavies because.. lol.. its 190tonnes of steel

[dark grotto]

makes the turret face just hard enough that stuff doesn't go through

[spice jetty]

but the maus has the most HP of any tier 10 with 2.5k u can up it to 2,650 with the HP boost

or u can make it even thicker with the armour buff

[restive sparrow]

"From what I understand e100 is a good damage dealer, vk is potent for those very experienced and maus soaks up damage like a sponge."

Is this true?

[spice jetty]

@dark grotto

[dark grotto]

I don't think there's anything the VK can do that other 2 can't. I'd rank it lowest.
E 100 next
Then Maus.

Pubs would be E 100, then Maus

Imo anyway

[spice jetty]

ehhh @dark grotto its really based on personal preference..

[restive sparrow]

Pubs?

[dark grotto]

Random battles

[spice jetty]

and skillset and what you like to play with.. pubs = public battles

[dark grotto]

I think if they fixed the VK72 sides it'd be fantastic

<200mm with an ammo rack behind it is bad juju

[spice jetty]

ehh the vk 72 has weakspots and its intentional not to make it op

[restive sparrow]

Armor = must have
Health = good addition
Damage = somewhat important
Speed = meh to not important

Something like this?

[spice jetty]

yes if ur using maus, vk 72 and e100 are.. all down the middle

[restive sparrow]

Penetration = only needs to be reliable, nothing more

[spice jetty]

for maus.

[restive sparrow]

I've seen vk 100 take a pounding. Is maus similar?

[spice jetty]

@restive sparrow i recommend using tankcompare on blitzstars. It in pinned messages

vk100 is a maus at tier 8.

[restive sparrow]

I want that. Will I expect maus to be like this?

[spice jetty]

well the only issue is...

it doesnt lead to the maus it leads to the vk 72...

nvm im wrong

it leads to the maus @restive sparrow ignore me lol on that..

[restive sparrow]

Yeah I was like, wait what?

[spice jetty]

lol i took the vk 45 02 b before they added that new fat pie eating line

hope that helps you make up your mind

[dark grotto]

Wait... the VK72 has less HP and DPM than the E 100... wtf

[spice jetty]

because of gun sizes and its balanced based on armour @dark grotto

[dark grotto]

They have the same gun though... and E100 has a way better armor profile...

[spice jetty]

not.. from the front..

[dark grotto]

The LFP is nice, but with any angling the E100 gets way better...
no wonder I'm not seeing it at all

[spice jetty]

hmm

[dark grotto]

I don't understand at all....

@hallow brook I see you drive the VK 72 and the E100... is there any reason to drive the VK over the E100?

[oblique pollen]

I hope this year's holiday team is nice like last year, cuz I'm planning to Marathon Play for grinding 183 from AT-15, like I did to 215b from BP in just about a week

[hallow brook]

@dark grotto Only reason to drive the Vk 72 over the E100 if the tanker is poor at angling their tanks armor, therefore all they have to is keep there tank forward. VK 72 in my opinion isn’t a very good tank. It’s not bad, it’s armor is just covered in weak spots, turret cheeks, side weak spot, and load premium ammo the front Hull is an easy pen, even tank destroyers with normal AP ammo can go throw it at tier X. With its slightly worse dpm its just makes it worse.

[dark grotto]

Makes sense. Just a bad mans E100. Thanks @hallow brook

[tulip sail]

Hey iraki what's your favorite t5 medium

[spice jetty]

dope

[steep pollen]

maus and t5 medium?

im confused

[crisp ember]

When I drive the VK and poke, the enemy almost never pens the turret even with premium ammo. But when an E 100 pokes, the premium ammo cuts through it like cheese.

It's kind of funny. Facing the enemy is the best for the VK since the weakspots are smaller, but with the E 100 you have to angle the turret to bounce.

Sometimes I have an easy time hitting the bar, sometimes I don't. I'll usually just shoot something else unless I load gold

I try not to face hug superheavies unless I know they can't hit me lol

[tulip hornet]

@crisp ember face hugging in a lowe is super op

[crisp ember]

cite where I said I don't facehug

[compact wraith]

@tulip hornet go face hug a t34 in your lowe

[tulip hornet]

@compact wraith is that sarcasm?

[compact wraith]

Seriously go do it if you think lowe facehugging is op

[tulip hornet]

@crisp ember face hugging is a good strategy when ur low on hp and ur a heavy

Face hugging on any well armored heavy is good

[crisp ember]

@tulip hornet Are you stupid or something? Why are you @ ing me? I said cite where I said I don't facehug. I said that I don't hug superheavies, referring to the E 100 as the prime example.

[tulip hornet]

@crisp ember yee, im stupid

[terse dome]

Wg its real??

[regal zealot]

Erm, what is this abomination?

[terse dome]

@regal zealot idk

I found it in Fb

[spare forge]

I see the cartoon tanks weren’t crazy enough for tier 7

But in complete seriousness, what in the actual f*** is that

[uncut blaze]

Next years halloween tank

[keen mantle]

tbh that looks extremely strong as a tank lol

[tired girder]

Why would you take that, over the ersatz panther though?

[keen mantle]

200mm gun mantlet is why

[uncut blaze]

Because it’s been powercreeped like crazy

[spare forge]

Tiger 2 gun on tiger 1 turret on panther chassis cause what even is physics

[terse dome]

8,8cm gun mounted in panther hull, hmm same as "Premium tank 8,8 Panther" ??

[tired girder]

That wont even fit... but hell its wargaming if you can dream it, theyll make it.. though it does look like it belongs

[spare forge]

If we get this I expect nothing less than The IS-Maus and the KV-Tog to be added

[keen mantle]

I mean the KV-1S can have 8 degrees of gun depression with the 122mm gun so of course that would work

😂

[tired girder]

If this can be added, why not a 3 turret tog? So i could go full broadside on someone lol.

[spare forge]

Just to put how stupid this thing is into perspective. The Pz IV’s 75mm Gun was enough to make the tank lean forwards and need extra bracing to stabilize the weight. So this abomination mounts not only the Tiger E turret, but the 88mm L71 gun that was put on the Tiger II because the Tiger 1 chassis could not support it. Except this isn’t a Tiger 1 chassis, it’s a Panther. For a company that has 3 separate versions of tank game you would think basic physics like this would dictate the design of fake tanks

[keen mantle]

shhhh we don't need logic here

[tired girder]

Pfff logic... what is this war thunder? HA have you seen my gravedigger? None of that stuff here.. all seriousness though please dont add this.

[keen mantle]

Yeah we don't need a tier 8 medium only with better armor at tier 7

[floral hatch]

?

[kindred osprey]

Is is 7 a good tank?

[tiny bone]

Its russian so of course its good 🤐

[keen mantle]

IS-7 is irrelevant oof

[kindred osprey]

@keen mantle irrelevant ?that means?

Not good?

@keen mantle did you means that?is 7 is a worst tank ? I also felt it that is 7 is good tank but not so good as an is4

[keen mantle]

It's a tank that doesn't have much place in the current meta

[solid gate]

What do you guys think of the Nomad and Super Pershing?

[round girder]

Yes

Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Ys

[solid gate]

No spam needed

Super p > Nomad?

[glacial bough]

Is lowe the best tier 8 heavy premium now? I’ve driven all other tier 8s and none of them are as versatile as the lower

[compact wraith]

Nice gun, but has weak-ish turret and meh armour

[modest tangle]

Lowe is really nice

But I prefer T34

[cerulean bluff]

Su12244 top tank

[lucid tiger]

WG pls explain this why does APCR do more damage

[uncut blaze]

pretty sure the gun is meant to do 160 with AP lol

[lucid tiger]

They nerfed low tier guns

[uncut blaze]

The gun still does 160 on the Lee.

[lucid tiger]

it does 120 on m7

[uncut blaze]

Right

the same gun with the same name does 160 on the Lee. Pretty sure the gun is meant to do 160 on the M7

[lucid tiger]

It is supposed to do less damage, but wg forgot to reduce apcr damage, making apcr literally better

most low tiers do less damage now

[uncut blaze]

yes

but that gun still does 160 on Lee. So either they didnt lower the APCR damage or they lowered the AP damage when they shouldn't have

[oblique pollen]

Or something to do with script since both have same name.

[uncut blaze]

They’ll fix it, whether that be increasing it’s AP or decreasing its APCR

[oblique pollen]

Death battle 💪💪

[restive sparrow]

I was thinking to also get is7. Sometimes I dont know which tank to choose when my opinions coincide with this chat

[vague berry]

215b mucho bae

[short flame]

worst tech tree tier X tanks for me: ( because there are similar tanks that can do better in closely everything)
IS7, T62a, Te4, M48 patton, T57 heavy, Foch 155b, WZ-121, Jgpz e100, Vk72k,

[wintry shell]

your worst tanks are one of best tanks in game

[quaint jetty]

The 57 heavy, 62A, Patton, and jgpz are good tho

[spice ivy]

AT-2s are turtles

[vague berry]

T57 is very good
Foch 155 can be good too
121 mega fun in pubs
Vk72k is pretty average but not the worst

[devout dawn]

The 62A is better than the 140 in almost every way
T57 is nice, 50B is better though
Foch is different enough to warrant playing

[solid gate]

140 is a good tank imo
It just hasn’t the turret armor but not that bad

[tulip sail]

How is the jagdtiger 8.8

[dark socket]

What if they added the FV4005 Stage II to WoTB

[short flame]

read pls = beacuse there are similar tanks that can do better

[wintry shell]

what can do better then m48 or foch or IS7 or VK 72k

[solid gate]

What can do better than T57

[dark grotto]

E100 is better than VK72

[short flame]

M48 patton? e50m can go up to 60km and also has very strong hull armor and is much more accurate.
t62a has horrible acceleration speed and traverse while going forward(e50m can Do Better) only for having a very strong turret that U cant use effectively because of no depression. 140 because of the fast firing gun on a very mobile tank. jgpz? you're going to camp all the battle, it's a slower fv183 with less alpha and without hesh. use e100 if u want armor, e100's hull is useless if you cant angle while shooting. Foch 155b? 268 has 20 times better gun, for more frontal armor but ez penetrabale by heat and also massive shape, if u want armor, thwre is Te3 that is literally unpenetrable in hulldown. IS7? wz113. vk 72k? there is e100, vk72k has very bad side armor, nit a good thing for a super heavy tank with super slow traverse. T57? amx 50b has 25 more max speex, Same gold pen but is APCR instead of heat, also has better min accuracy . t57 has better reload interclip, but is way inferior to 50b "t57 has armor!" pls stop... how can s t57 bounce with turret lol? at least in amx 50b you're very fast and can flank.

[dark grotto]

Horrible acceleration lol

[short flame]

yeah, e50m has better acceleration than t62a

only in soft terrain t62a looks faster

[dark grotto]

No

[short flame]

that means nothing

[solid gate]

50 🅱️ is enormous and easily penned by HE

[dark grotto]

Except that’s literally the stat that defines acceleration

[short flame]

go in training room and see by yourself

btw i drove all tanks so i know what i am talking about

oh amx 50b also has way more hp than t57, also because noobs uses HE but you're not a noob so they never pen.

[dark grotto]

Which one is faster?

[short flame]

go in training rooms and check

also in battles im always faster than other t62as
or maybe same speed

[dark grotto]

You can’t tell whether the Leo is faster than the 50M?

[solid gate]

« Way more HP » IMO 100 doesn’t make a great difference
« Noobs use HE » are you complaining about HE shells?

[short flame]

no, but im not a noob, and only 15mm guns can pen me effectively with he, if im in 1v3

amx 50b has one of the best frontal hull armors

[solid gate]

HESH shells can also pen the turret reliably

[dark grotto]

HESH can pen all the turrets, to be fair.

[short flame]

oof, 35km vs 50km, better gun, need more ?

[solid gate]

Frontally?

Gun isn’t better really it’s slower and I don’t pay attention to prammo

[short flame]

in cws u should

[solid gate]

Cws?

[short flame]

tournaments

[solid gate]

If you aim and flank well you don’t need them

[short flame]

yes, flank better with 50km and aim.better with better gun accuracy, or with 35km and worse gun accuracy?

[dark grotto]

Accuracy is barely different

[solid gate]

Accuracy isn’t that bad in T57. It dominates Canyon

[short flame]

you're never going to rely on t57's armor or amx 50b's armor, you're always in sniping range, or flanking,

yes, accuracy isnt that bad in t57, really, is very good, but amx 50b is also better in that aspect

[solid gate]

Depends mostly on your playstyle actually
Both are really good and I’d say equal

[keen mantle]

the T-62A accelerates much faster than the E 50M but it gets topped off at 50 kph rather than the 55 on the E 50M

[short flame]

not true, obj 140 accelerates much faster, not e50m

t62a accelerates faster than e50m only in soft terrain

[keen mantle]

E 50M isn't slow but it's one of the most sluggish tier 10 mediums

[solid gate]

T-62A has better turret than 113 lol

[short flame]

also bette than is7

[solid gate]

E-50M has others strong sides like armor

IS-7 hasn’t got cupolas tho

[short flame]

yeah never going to hit cupolas if you're not in face hug lol, they have a bit of armor that cna make u miss ezly

better to shoot at cheecks, like is7

actually t62a really has nothing, only an accurate 310 dmg gun

you cant use the turret armor all the time because of bad depression, so you're going like always to show also your super paper hull armor

[spare forge]

Jgpz E-100 needs buffed. Change my mind

[short flame]

true, it's aimless atm

before at least it had that op heat pen

never saw a jgpze100 not camping, and if isnt camping, is only a big e100 without the possibility of being angled, and i camping range there are grille and fv183 that can do much much Better

[spare forge]

The 183 is a better tank at everything. The Jgpz is supposed to be the armored alpha cannon, it should get better superstructure armor so hull down is actually viable. If the cheeks become harder to pen then there is still the lower plate and top MG as frontal weakspots

[short flame]

yes, e100's turret without the possibility of being angled properly = useless

[spare forge]

It should also have its alpha fixed because it certainly is not an average of 800 right now, more like 700

[keen mantle]

yeah the JgE100 is an armored gun platform that doesn't have armor

[short flame]

yes true, never looked like 800 alpha, it's between 700 and 750, when you do 850 dmg is like when you do 720 in e100

jgpze100s always deals to me less than 800 dmg, never saw more than 900 unless high roll skill

[spare forge]

A Jgpz armor/rng buff and literally any 183 nerf would fix the massive disparity between the two

[keen mantle]

the JgE100 is supposed to be a different tank than the 183 but they both get shoehorned into a role where the 183 massively outperforms

[short flame]

yeah but still i dont know where the jgpze100 would fit, camping range sure not, first line there are foch 155b and Te3, mid range probably but idk..

the gun should be the thing that gives a plus to jgpze100, but actually doesnt

[spare forge]

It’s supposed to be an E3/183 hybrid, giving you enough armor to sit near the front and a high alpha gun to breakthrough or stop the enemy team

[short flame]

but you only need to load gold and ez pen for every tier X ://

[spare forge]

But because the armor is so easily countered it’s forced to sit at the back like a 183, which negates it’s armor and makes it useless

[short flame]

exactly

also has pathetic camo rate , so

in cws jgpze100 is like never used lol, but yeah, there are used only specialized tanks, not all rounder

[spare forge]

C4 used it twice in offlines, lost both games

[keen mantle]

lol

[short flame]

guys can someone explain me why Jag has 305mm of frontal armor in tank's stats??

there is nothing close to 305mm in its frontal armor, at least Te5 has that tiny strip of 260mm in frontal hull

tiger II's hull with 150mm of frontal armor? yeah! let's go write the doubled value for no reason!

[spare forge]

Where do you see 305mm?

[short flame]

now they fixed to 250 (still wrong) but it was 305mm for a very long time

[spare forge]

250 is correct for superstructure, hull is the same armor layout as E100

[short flame]

jagdtiger, not jgpze100

[spare forge]

Oh, in that case 250 is still right for superstructure but the hull is the same as Tiger II

[short flame]

jgpze100 has 200 armor in tank's stats (hull armor) jad has 250 (superstructure armor) why lol? or always supsrstructure or always hull, cmon

[spare forge]

The problem is turretless tds have no superstructure armor listing so the armor confuses new players

It is apparently just random

[winged cove]

a t55A is just a reskinned t54 that makes more credits

change my mind

[keen mantle]

it has a better gun for less armor

[dim sail]

Why for TDs is the hull armour all different and it doesn't list it

For example it says 250mm of armouron jagdtiger but that's for the superstructure

How are we supposed to know the lower glass and the upper glasis apart from looking at external sites

[keen mantle]

you're not

[short flame]

turret armor and hull armor forturretted tanks, hull armor and superstructure for non turretted tanks, and if they have not superstructure, like su122-54, say hull armor and gun mantlet armor.

[solid gate]

You have to use a 3rd party site

[dim sail]

What in saying is normal players are going to be completely puzzled and wg doesn't help

[dark grotto]

Don't worry, it's been like this for 4 years

[tulip sail]

Hey is the jagdtiger 8.8 worth 11.99

[haughty void]

If you are a collector lol

[spare forge]

It’s a very good tank when used correctly, and by correctly I mean hull down with the 105mm where it becomes borderline OP

[tulip sail]

@haughty void yes of historic and used tanks

And free tanks

[solid gate]

Obj 263 or 268 line

[dim sail]

Both very good lines

263 line is more my playstyle

[glacial bough]

Prefer 268, has better gun dep and a 152 mm gun with good manouverbility. However 263 is just broken so there’s that

[keen mantle]

nah we need more dpm TDs

[mortal wedge]

Hey guys, I was just wondering, is the T26E4 any good?

[keen mantle]

it's pretty decent I'd say

[mortal wedge]

Ya, do u think I should get it?

[tulip sail]

Its quiet good for a med

[mortal wedge]

Ya

[tulip sail]

My brother bought me one and I love it

[keen mantle]

It's not especially good imo but it's not a bad tank

[mortal wedge]

How much average damage do u do in it

[keen mantle]

personally the Lowe is a lot better

[mortal wedge]

Ya maybe

[tulip sail]

From 1600 to 2k but lately I've been getting into bad games so less (quite less

[mortal wedge]

Oof

I might get it

[tulip sail]

Yeah they have been along the lines of the red show up so my team ditches me and hides

[mortal wedge]

Lol

Hey what's ur WOT name, so we can friend each other, if u want, we don't have to

Send it to me on private chat, send me a message if u want to

[solid gate]

kv2 is the worst tank i've played

[solid gate]

lel

300 games no HE pen sooo

[mint ridge]

KV 2 stronk tonk

[short flame]

omg learn to play, u need first to pray for stalin for about 2 days, then u can play kv2 and pen everyone with he

[solid gate]

@tulip sail yes

[tulip sail]

Yes what?

[solid gate]

Jag 88 is worth 13 bucks

[tulip sail]

Oh lol thanks I got it and I love the thing

[solid gate]

Is Kpfpz 70 any good?

[keen mantle]

no

[solid gate]

Its meh

[gusty remnant]

@solid gate Hard to get a hang of, but a really solid tank.

Not that fun to play though.

[solid gate]

What is the most credits farmer of those at auction?

[tulip sail]

What would you guys consider to be the best t8 premi td

[solid gate]

Ofc the balanced wz 120

[keen mantle]

WZ-120-1 FakeTank

[tulip sail]

Wow I'm stupid for a minute I thought it was t9

Yeah I'd have to agree since that why I never complained bc I thought it was

[solid gate]

What tank makes more credits per battle?

[median oak]

The tank you do a lot of damage in, gets spots/assist dmg and don’t take a lot of damage in return...

Credit Coefficient wize, the Löwe and Super Pershing are both 190%

And credit to @wise moth

Admittedly the Shinobi and Angry Connor are higher - but tier 5 so you generally do a lot less damage.

[zinc stream]

I want to get a superpershing and a Lowe but I ain't got no money or gold soo

And a type 59

[azure creek]

Playing with is5, 20k creds after every game, meh...

[brisk blade]

@azure creek look for what you pay for before you go into a battle,
consumables, provisions, camo etc.
usally you should make 40-70K with the IS-5 per battle

[azure creek]

If you have premium acc, sure its 50-100k

[brisk blade]

not really

i driven the IS-2SH, T-44-100 and the 10.5 cm K selffarfalette and made 40-70k per battle (depends if you lost or won) and that without premium account time or boosters

they all have around the same creditcoefficeny

[azure creek]

Donno, or i am winnin or losing its the same shit. Lost 12k~, won 26k~. without using gold

[brisk blade]

could i see a screenshot of the equipment that you’re useing in the IS-5?

[brisk blade]

yeah pretty expensive,
camo - 1.5k per round
Adrenaline- 6-7k per round
Provisions 10+k every round

i don’t know all the prices rightnow but when you start a round you automatically lose 15ish thousands because of the Provisions and because of the camo

and adrenalin costs alot to if you use it

[azure creek]

Seems my crew have to forget about their adrenaline.

[brisk blade]

lol, i don’t use it because it’s expensive, sometimes you waste it and you rely to much on it when you got it

[azure creek]

Thats true

[brisk blade]

but in some cases it’s definitely worth it

gimme a second

[azure creek]

After 800 battles still cannot get ace on it

Cursed tank, whatever.

[brisk blade]

this is what im running with

Legandary camo costs 0 credits/round
and only the consumables that i really need

[azure creek]

Meh, is5 legendary camo kinda sucks, but for saving creds...

[brisk blade]

dont

gimme 4mins

[azure creek]

Gonna try use same shit like u do

[brisk blade]

wait

i only suggest to buy legendary camo if you really like it

[brisk blade]

@quaint jetty worth it

[quaint jetty]

This any good, or should I pump everything into the fair?

[brisk blade]

@azure creek there is a tab where you can see your expensives in your battle

@quaint jetty the tank is it worth in my opinion but it will come every year, so it's up to you

[azure creek]

Yeah i know

[brisk blade]

and you can also buy a rare camo if you want to spend less credits

for example the Broken Ice camo costs alot to unlock and then it's free to use forever on that tank

and camo isn't really needed on a Heavy Tank, it adds 2% on it and there is a crew skill that adds 3% of camo on every tank per level

it's a passive effect and dosen't cost anything to maintain

also there is a crew skill that repais your critical modules faster since i got that on level 7 im bearly useing my repair kit to repair my tracks anymore

[solid gate]

Yeah but you might as well run camo on heavies

[brisk blade]

@solid gate i recommend it on the Tog

[azure creek]

@brisk blade seems you were right

[brisk blade]

i used to play alot of mmo rpgs and a game called factorio... when ypu play those games you can get into a math freak that likes to calculate everything and always want the highest efficiency

[azure creek]

😄

Thanks for help @brisk blade

[brisk blade]

np

and you should definitely take a look into the crew skills if you want to save credits

[azure creek]

Ugh, had first tier x tank Leo 1 , didnt liked it. After all got bat chat 25t, seems its just for me, but cannot get a freakin ace.

Thats awkward, was playing on friends acc with 183, got ace at 3rd game :/

[brisk blade]

lol

[vague sail]

Nice calculations man@brisk blade

[brisk blade]

@vague sail what did i do?

[vague sail]

I also run cheap consumables a and no adrenaline
Plus rare camo
Saves a lot of cdres

[brisk blade]

yup

im just trying to survive in a game where WG wants your money xD
@vague sail

[azure creek]

Obj. 268 rocks?

[brisk blade]

meh, i don’t like Tier X

[short flame]

263>>268

[azure creek]

Idk or its the same in stats like on pc

[brisk blade]

SU-122-54 Rocks tho

[azure creek]

Blyat auto correct

[brisk blade]

quick reload, good mobility and high alpha

best Tier IX dpm i think

[vague sail]

Overall best dpm
That tank is awesome

[brisk blade]

yup

sadly im grinding the germans currently

[half flame]

I love the Matilda

I ran out of ammo at this match tho

[brisk blade]

lol

Matilda op

[half flame]

But I resorted to ramming tactics and serving as bait for the Sau-40

[compact wraith]

The driver of matilda is trying to drink tea and drive at the same time

[half flame]

I was blessed by the Goddesses of St. Gloriana

[azure creek]

Probably it depends on playing style. I am thinking about obj.268 because of his trollish front, good pen, alpha, good depression and ok'ish speed.

And sure, best TD camo

[pulsar sinew]

@short flame you’re joking right?

[errant pumice]

Type 62?

[tulip sail]

@half flame that happens a bit too often for me

[gusty tusk]

Maus - much much better armor
E100 - more damage but HEAT instead of APCR

Vk 72 K have same gun as E100 but better armor

[young cape]

IMO MAus turret is more vulnerable, VK 72 gun has worst dispersion that E100

[keen mantle]

@gusty tusk VK does have bad dpm tho

[spare forge]

Maus turret more vulnerable?

Are you even angling it

E100 turret can be penned at maximum angle very easily, 72 is troll enough to bounce some, but the Maus has the best all around turret of the 3 superheavies

[keen mantle]

and the E 100 turret isn't exactly better than the Maus's so I'm confused by the fact he didn't call that out

VK 72 has the strongest turret frontally but the weakest from any other angle I'd say

[spare forge]

Granted they are all bad turret designs, but the Maus is not worse than the other two

My main problem with the VK turret is that turret ring makes brawling difficult

[keen mantle]

ah

[spare forge]

@restive sparrow if you value doing damage more than blocking shots go for E-100, if you want a position holder get Maus

If you want something in the middle then it’s the VK

[keen mantle]

E-100 is the pub stomper, the Maus is the comp boi, and the VK is the tank that does um
stuff

[spare forge]

E-100 is a really good tank until someone loads gold and looks at your turret

[keen mantle]

So basically all of pubs

[austere vector]

okay here is a picture one of my friends made about the t-22, and i feel taht it correctly represents why the t22 is op, @frank totem since you insisted, lets come here and discuss

[frank totem]

@austere vector 1. T-22 only has 80mm of side armor, which means splash damage would treat it as 80mm, not whatever that effective armor is (which means you can splash HE onto it)

2. Reverse sidescrape due to T-22's low profile would also expose it's engine deck which is only 30mm thick.

3. Check the actual Blitz Armor values, the turret is around the strength of a T-62A turret.

[austere vector]

i checked the values sir, 400+ mm its not around the strength of the t62A turret, its way better than that. second, sure, if you hit the 80mm plating without the SPACED ARMOUR. IT SIDE IS FULLY SPACED WITHT THE TRACKS AND STUFF, which, greatly reduces HE damage. also where is the engine deck?
the t22 needs to be angling up to be exposing the engine deck if you are wondering. look at the profile. show me the engine deck.

[rigid thunder]

there is also spaced armour and tracks

[austere vector]

@frank totem yea if you are going to hit that small strip with HE, good job, you have landed a 1 in 100 hit. now how about everyone else? you aint hitting that all day long, most HE would deal negligible due to the spaced armour everywhere else

[frank totem]

How much of a chance you would be giving enemy to sit there to burn you down anyway

[austere vector]

meaning?

[frank totem]

😂 must be new playstyle

[austere vector]

im sorry sire, for i do not get your previous statement, please elaborate on that "new playstyle"

[keen mantle]

I mean if it's there burning you down you can move, but then it'll just chase you and burn you

[frank totem]

@austere vector you are thinking statically. I think dynamically. I don't just sit in one spot trying to counter a reverse side scrapping T-22, I would go into new angles so he can't use that wall

[keen mantle]

main issue I see with it

[frank totem]

You guys always assume "best case scenario"

[austere vector]

and he just faces you? and also this is a team game, sure 1v1 you can try that, in a real game he probably has support

[keen mantle]

on PC it has nerfed dpm (like by a lot) so it can't just stop using the wall and chase someone down and burn them

[frank totem]

But the thing is Blitz is a "Dynamic" game, you can't really do that in Blitz

[austere vector]

yea, try flanking and get pummeled by camping tds, i dont think it is worth

[frank totem]

I don't do Random battles mindset anymore lol

[austere vector]

then what you do, rating battles mindset?

[frank totem]

You guys can keep your High WN8 mindsets

[austere vector]

rating battles there will be a much higher chance of him having support and you not being able to flank him

[frank totem]

Did I ever say rating battles lol

[austere vector]

Also, what high wn8 mindsets? what mindset is that? did you just come up with that?

so okay you say you dont do random battles mindset, we can keep our high wn8 mindset, i shall ask everyone else, does anyone have a clue what these mindsets are???

[frank totem]

What you showed me is probably how I would think 2 years ago

[austere vector]

and finally what is your mindset now?

[keen mantle]

I just stopped caring and went for fun

[frank totem]

I already moved on from that kind of "static" armor setting

[austere vector]

and what, dynamic? t-22 being hull down and shooting you while you can do nothing about it?

t-22 poking out from a corner, shooting you, while you bounce off his turret?

[frank totem]

You only see one single angle and that only that angle is OP = that tank is OP in your eyes

[keen mantle]

you can move

[austere vector]

yes but how are we going to dig him out?

[frank totem]

There are 359.999 degrees more of angles you can approach a target

[half flame]

Santa where's my Ankou Pz. IV?

[keen mantle]

well more realistically 270 more degrees in most situations but still

[frank totem]

You choose to use that specific angle, talking about 'static'

[austere vector]

and unless hes the last one standing, im pretty sure he would have support, so again most of those 359.999 degrees are out of the question

[frank totem]

You really that pessimistic huh

[austere vector]

why else could one hull down heavy tank hold the whole enemy team back?

[rigid thunder]

ngl if they rush him

[frank totem]

@austere vector lol you making it sound like you can

[keen mantle]

well considering 183 spam holding down half the map is a thing

[austere vector]

@frank totem as if you never encountered such stalemates before,

[frank totem]

But the fact is, you can't, if you know what is cooperation with teammates, which honestly doesn't exist in any of these players' mind but as I play with someone else I usually am able to achieve such wins

[austere vector]

TDs have enough braincells to see someone yoloing their teammate and see free tasty shots on the yoloer

[frank totem]

If you are going your way to set so many assumptions to only proof a tank is OP, then it's really not that OP tbh

[austere vector]

same reason as why no one crosses the hill in mines in the first few minutes just to kill someone

[keen mantle]

While I don't mind the tank's armor or mobility, I think the dpm on it is a little lot overcooked.

[spice ivy]

Isnt it the norm for most tanks in Mines to rush the hill?

[keen mantle]

on PC it was so brilliantly broken that they needed to cut a good like 20% off the dpm

[austere vector]

i mean go down on the other side @spice ivy

[frank totem]

@keen mantle I agree that tank is a better 140 in almost all regards, but it's not "OP'

[keen mantle]

My only issue is that it's bringing up some Helsing "do everything" vibes

[spice ivy]

Which country's TDs still retain reliability and versatility in the higher tiers?

[keen mantle]

Russia

[austere vector]

T110E4 maybe?

[spice ivy]

Are the British tank destroyers worth investing?

[austere vector]

if you are fine with not shooting anything for a long time

[frank totem]

@spice ivy only tier X is worth it 🤔

[austere vector]

or basically camping in KV2 but better accuracy

[keen mantle]

But at the same time the tier 10 is also killing the game

so like no thanks we don't need more

[spice ivy]

The AT-2 & 6 tanks are pretty hard to crack for green novice players

[keen mantle]

AT-2 has amazing armor, rest of the line has such massive weak spots that you'll be dead in a snap

[spice ivy]

Hecc when i encountered one for the first time i panicked since i couldnt pen it with my AP and HE rounds properly

It just whittled my health down to 200 easily

Shit was scary af

[keen mantle]

meh

[solid gate]

@solid gate so?

[wicked oracle]

The premium Jagtiger 8.8 needs a credit coefficient buff

[stone parrot]

can you add SPG tanks

[candid glen]

The maps are too small

[stone parrot]

wish they add SPG tanks

should i sell my kv13 or keep it??

any suggestions??

[candid glen]

If you like the tank, keep it. Simple :p

[half flame]

Nerd the armor and firepower of the Scavenger

*nerf

[stone parrot]

is kv13 a good tank

[thorny imp]

IS3 Defender is good tank?

[terse sandal]

@solid gate just aim better. Big and slow tank. U have too learn it before tier 10. There comes the maus. Same way too kill

[half flame]

I hate the Pz. IV D

[stone parrot]

same pz 4 d is shi t tank

coz the stock gun is crap

[half flame]

I had a lot of bad memories with it

[stone parrot]

not me

[half flame]

No armor, inaccurate gun even the long barreled one

[stone parrot]

true

[candid glen]

It's a lower tier tank, m8. It's not supposed to be a super tank

[half flame]

I know

But at least the long barreled gun could've been more accurate

[round girder]

Yee

But it is good against the pz.slf.ivc

[half flame]

The spray pattern and the aiming time is just so meme worthy

[round girder]

A low tier kv 2

[stone parrot]

why tog 2 is slower than maus

[round girder]

Looong tog

WTF

That is one way to enter a chat

[half flame]

I think one of the reasons I die often is because I'm always the one in the front line

Just me

[round girder]

U flank?

One tank flank is useless

[half flame]

My teammates just often hang back

[round girder]

No U

What are you going to do for Christmas?

U?

Yee

[half flame]

I'm going to grind for the Event now

[stone parrot]

Is su 152 OP??

[round girder]

Yee

Russian bias

152mm cannon can destroy anything with the help of stalin

[stone parrot]

true

[round girder]

U know it

[stone parrot]

is russia asia or europe

[round girder]

Both

In fact, it is the world

[candid glen]

Wherever the capital is, that is the determiner

[stone parrot]

can russian players go to asia server??

[round girder]

Yes

[inland topaz]

But most of them go to na server

[round girder]

Hi

[solid gate]

Wth they giving away my T1E6

[pine mason]

cause they want to

[kindred narwhal]

Asia auction started

[solid gate]

Help witch this please

[wild condor]

Play other tanks to earn more credits so you can repair it.

[spice ivy]

Why does it require repairs? I've never encountered that once

[languid ermine]

On average, 35 Candy Canes from $12 containers. You'll need to open 55 of them to get 1,930 required Candy Canes for Stage 5 of the tree. That's around $600.

On average, 6 Candy Canes from the 1,500 Gold containers. You'll need to open 321 of them to get 1,930 required Candy Canes for Stage 5 of the tree. That's around 430,000 Gold and will cost you $1,100.

I won't even talk about the the Free XP crates, they aren't any better than the ones purchasable for gold.

@languid ermine

[tranquil maple]

because maus has 2000Horsepower engine

[quaint jetty]

Which is better, the M60 or 121B?

[pulsar sinew]

That’s a bad question

[viscid dragon]

How bout none of the above and you save your money for infinitely better things

[near oxide]

Is the T1E6 any good?

[glacial bough]

Nope, low tier rubbish

[near oxide]

Oh

Soo,basicaly insta sale?

[rare spear]

Hi, i see the damages of the FV 183 going to be nerf but what is New damages ?

[glacial bough]

It’s not

[rare spear]

Its not What ?

[solid gate]

It’s not nerfed

[rare spear]

Omg thanks

[tulip edge]

They arent nerfing the damage i think i read they are nerfing the accuracy and mobility

[solid gate]

Some people talked about lowered gun handling but I don’t even know if it’s really getting nerfed

[tulip edge]

The gun handling is way too good lmao it should be

[rare spear]

Yes because its a 183mm gun, the damage is big

[solid gate]

I need very much credits

[quaint jetty]

Honestly, I can live without the mk6, while 2 more degrees of depression and hesh is nice, I like my E5

[wary sage]

found out that the jagpanther II has a pretty good ROF compared to the other tier 8 TD's

[quaint jetty]

Which is better, the m48 or m60 in general pub play?

[wary sage]

w/e has the better HP, armor and ROF

[ancient iron]

So does the Nashorn play basically similar to the D. Max (checking if there's an auto-censor that blocked my last attempt because of the name of that thing)

[timber peak]

yeah....but it has a smaller gun...

[ancient iron]

cool... the smaller gun won't bother me much... I got used to using a 75 mm on the Flat Panzer.... I am using an 88 on the Jpanther... I can say I am pretty used to using a smaller gun .-.

[quaint jetty]

M48 has more armor, but M60 has 2 degrees more depression and more manuverability

[timber peak]

m60 is the cooler brother but not necesarily the smarter

[keen mantle]

M60 has 1 more degree not 2

[quaint jetty]

Ah, sorry, must have been thinking difference between E5 and Chieftain

[ancient iron]

is there even any point to the existence of the Light VIC in Blitz? (memes don't count)

[timber peak]

for ppl with 1 brain cell.....

[woeful dagger]

It was like a nerfed T7 car, but now it's would work better as a tier 0 or -1

[ancient iron]

So... does anyone have some tips for playing the T-54 Mod 1?

[quaint jetty]

Play like a hevium

[woeful dagger]

No

Play like a lightium

[keen mantle]

no that's what you do with the ltwt

[woeful dagger]

Oh

THere are too many T-54's, mod 1, ltwt, OG one, T55A

That's 4 T-54s

[dull ether]

Gravedigger really needs a nerf by now... The AL is too quick and armour is messed up... At less it’s a Collector’s tank

[ancient iron]

I noticed that.... I can't seem to pen the Gravedigger at all frontally even with APCR on my JagdTiger 8,8 (using the 105) .-.

[quaint jetty]

@ancient iron aim for the lower plate

I do well against gravedigger, but I also do well as the gravedigger

[dull ether]

This year’s Halloween was just silly...

[ancient iron]

before I forget.... is the 105 a good gun for the JagdTiger 8,8 or is the long 88 better?

[dull ether]

A tank that you can’t pen...

[quaint jetty]

But you can pen smh

[keen mantle]

105 is better because you can angle between shots

[woeful dagger]

I once had a game where there was a digger and it got shredded by 2 KV-2s and a KV-1s yet I managed to survive a KV-2 shot in an MT-25

[quaint jetty]

I mean, that's a lot of HE

[woeful dagger]

I didn;t catch an HE

I caught an AP or APCR, then got killed by a T37

[ancient iron]

now do I sac some AP in my JagdTiger 8,8 for som HE .-.

I think it's kinda funny playing the Bt-7 Art now because it's the only low tier with HE

[quaint jetty]

Lol, M48 has better coefficient than M60

[dull ether]

The KV 2 only has AP and HE lol

[glacial crest]

You know the more I think about the 2Sh the more I think I made a mistake buying it instead of the CDC. Sure, I don't like the fact that the CDC is a megachonker in size, that it has no armor and that the gun is not extremely punchy but at least it can hit something. Not like the IS-5/2Sh which keep missing when fully aimed. Totally not because they're Russian btw.

[quaint jetty]

Is the type 59 good?

[glacial crest]

Definitely good. Very solid, good armor and turret though I'm not exactly keen on tanks with that low pen.

[quaint jetty]

I've been debating between it and the 121B

[glacial crest]

That's very controversial because the 121B is entirely likely to go at a lower price later. Maybe if you had the camo for it I could understand.

[quaint jetty]

I do actually

Because I dumped some into crates, got a lucky ticket, and got 10k gold back

I was leaning to the Mk 6, but I already have and enjoy my E5

Then between the M60 and M48A1, but they are basically the same.

So it's between the 59 and the 121B

[dull ether]

Hmm... well both have quite bad depression angles

[keen mantle]

nah the Type 59 isn't good, but 7 degrees is by no means bad

[quaint jetty]

Of course not, just look at Russian meds

The issue is more of the tanks I looked at and thought I wanted, I already have something pretty close to it or can get something pretty close to it

[dull ether]

Yeah

[quaint jetty]

At least with the 121b it's a better version of the t10 med in the tech tree

[dull ether]

Expect the alpha lol

[quaint jetty]

I mean, 50 less alpha for 300 more dpm isn't bad

@glacial crest how's EU servers?

[pseudo hamlet]

Thats crazy for avg damage compared to the rest of his tanks. This was the first t22 i came up against today. 56% er

I dont think its over powered but something seems fishy

[tulip sail]

how do you guys feel about the fcm 50 t i like meds but im not sure how i feel about it i can do good it however im not sure if i use it as a light or a med

[tiny bone]

i dont like has nothing special average tank nothing is really bad about it but nothing is crazy good

[pseudo hamlet]

I think its good at peeking corners, but its very big. I like it.. unfortunately there are farrrrrr better premiums out there

[quaint jetty]

Like the type 59 (kidding kinda)

[tulip sail]

im just glad i got it free

[pseudo hamlet]

Take it for a spin 😃

[quaint jetty]

Would the 121B be a bad buy? I mean, I got the camo for it.....

[tulip sail]

@pseudo hamlet I own it and just did a 2k+ game but it still feels weird

[quaint jetty]

I have watched videos, just about all of them say it's good

[median oak]

@pseudo hamlet he also has extremely high WR’s for his avg dmg numbers in his other tanks

[quaint jetty]

@median oak ahoy

[ancient iron]

So... I like the VK 45.03 but I have yet to see any good reviews of it... is it just a bad tank or is there a stigma to it that is unjustified?

[tulip sail]

it used to be utter crap but its ok now (imo could have been me just playing it wrong)

[ancient iron]

I tend to play it as a mid-line support heavy when top tier and a very big sniping med when bottom tier

[tulip sail]

its armour isn't very good especially for a heavy

[ancient iron]

I still somehow bounced a Borsig shell in my last battle :3

[keen mantle]

well everyone can pen the turret with no issues is the problem

[ancient iron]

So... is the Super Pershing supposed to be really good or am I just getting really lucky?

[tulip sail]

really good

[ancient iron]

okay cool.... .-. also it feels more like a slightly more nimble heavy.... so I am guessing that's how it should be played.... or as a bit of heavier support for mediums (not really for hit and run, picking of stragglers or even really wolfpacking unless your team adjusts for the slightly lower speed...)

[solid gate]

@ancient iron dont be fooled, its mediocre

[tulip sail]

I've had decent success using as hevium

[keen mantle]

Just point the front at people and hope for the best

[viscid dragon]

super pershing is just an m4a3e2 at tier 8

change my mind

[tulip sail]

@keen mantle dont forget to wiggle a bit

[keen mantle]

Super Pershing plays like an IS-3 with a small gun

[tulip sail]

That's how the is3 is used?

[keen mantle]

Point the front at a person and shoot pretty much

Not much past that

[tulip sail]

Ah ok I might go back to going down that line

[keen mantle]

That only stops working against the new super heavies

The hull front is 200mm effective and the turret is nigh impenetrable

[tulip sail]

I cant stand the new heavies

They counter my favorite tanks

[weary yacht]

damn 4000 damage at tier 7

[half flame]

I love the M7

[steady anvil]

Got lots of credits well am back to 1m now

[keen mantle]

Just played my KV-13 to get my cards, and won the first match in it. Good to know this tank still kicks butt.

[regal zealot]

See you’re still loving the KV-13. Good for you.

[tulip sail]

i wanted it before they removed it

[keen mantle]

our M6A2E1 EXP was a pro kill stealer lol, 400 alpha, 3 kills, 600 damage done

[tulip sail]

firefly vs e8 which is better overal

ik the historical answer

[tulip sail]

@pulsar sinew

[alpine carbon]

E8

[pulsar sinew]

@tulip sail e8 and fury

Jumbo is probably better than both

[lost python]

How good is the Churchill?

[keen mantle]

Was good now bad

[tulip sail]

that what id say although iirc the firefly has some more penn

[hollow notch]

Pen and no depression vs depression and no pen