😠 I never get these things
#vehicles-discussion
keen mantle
solid meteor
then i got su 122-44 the next week
fallow shoal
I got the lowe from a crate
lean laurel
High explosive anti tank doesnt blow up on contact @keen mantle
fallow shoal
It has fuse sensitivity
keen mantle
it WoT and WoTB it does
lean laurel
HE is the one that blows up when touching anything
keen mantle
nope fences stop HEAT
fallow shoal
But with that logic then what is the difference between he and heat
lean laurel
they do ?
keen mantle
buddy I own a Type 62 I would know
solid meteor
HE and HEAT are blocked by obstructions
fallow shoal
I think it depends on the caliber of heat.
lean laurel
I never pack HEAT (gun doesnt allow it) And i just dont pack HE cuz yea gun doesnt do well with it
keen mantle
I think HEAT doesn't have penetration fuses because the Type 62 and IS-2 would become hilariously op
since they both have 250mm pen with HEAT and 275mm with CS
fallow shoal
Well then how does heat pen work if heat does not have a pen fuse. It would just blow on contact.
keen mantle
it just instantly N U Ts on the armor
solid meteor
HEAT does blow on contact,
fallow shoal
Then how does it have more pen then ap
lean laurel
hes right tho
surreal pier
HEAT historically is actually a shaped charge .... it blows on contact but the shaped charge blows through the armor
keen mantle
^^^^
fallow shoal
Or u have a pen fuse that blows after the shell has passed through enough armor
lean laurel
thats kinda weird AP has less pen than HEAT o.0
solid meteor
HEAT explodes inside the tank
fallow shoal
Technically apcr should be less effective then ap because it produces less shrapnel then ap
lean laurel
apcr is faster
fallow shoal
Yes
solid meteor
can I post links here or not
keen mantle
it makes sense in the Cold War HEAT completely wrecked all forms of armor so Germany and France realize that and just gave up on armor in the Leopard 1 and AMX 30 main battle tanks
fallow shoal
I mean in damage not pen
lean laurel
i guess its ok since its on topic @solid meteor
solid meteor
fallow shoal
We need like apfsds and hefsds in this game lol
solid meteor
and Art....
keen mantle
Then after ablative reactive armor plating came out HEAT was rendered obselete and slower tanks were considered OK again until APDSFS came out, then APDSFS was forced to compete against stuff like Chobham armor
surreal pier
APCR is usually a tungsten core around a AP round .... it's the tungsten core that pens the armor .... tungsten is much denser than steel
lean laurel
Oh yea i forgot HE doesnt Ricochet 😄
solid meteor
if it did it would be some strange HE
fallow shoal
Lol
keen mantle
I mean if you hit armor at an 85 degree angle with a really thick walled HE shell it's gonna bounce
fallow shoal
Yep
solid meteor
true
ruby bolt
What are your thoughts of the Churchill GC?
solid meteor
what if grenades were added as ammo lol
fallow shoal
I have 4 of the clones myself lol
solid meteor
GC has an amazing gun. thats it
ruby bolt
It can bounce some shots since the buff
solid meteor
camo sucks gun arc sucks armour isnt that good slow
keen mantle
the front armor can just outright eat most shells from tier 5 meds
solid meteor
well true its got some frontal armour
ruby bolt
The mobility is ok I guess. not too slow
solid meteor
25 km/hr?
ruby bolt
I guess yeah
keen mantle
best gun in tier 6 tho
and it only gets minor traverse nerfs in 5.5 of about 2 degrees a second in all terrain
ruby bolt
GC is the best credit maker on tier 6 (without premium tanks)
solid meteor
the traverse was quite good for such a slow TD
keen mantle
GC has best credit coefficient in the game for non premiums so I'm getting it as basically a free premium tank
solid meteor
quite a big church 1 grind though, 49k xp for a tier 6, highest at the tier
ruby bolt
did u guys buy the KV-13?
solid meteor
no, useless
keen mantle
yeah I mean I get 10k xp a day in the Churchill 1 so idk KV-13 is a poor man's Mod 1 it's great
solid meteor
I dont play the soviet meds
ruby bolt
I bought tanks like the Jumbo and the T21 tho
solid meteor
to sell for gold?
keen mantle
It's an excellent tank the KV-13
ruby bolt
no to keep 'em
solid meteor
true but it leads nowhere
ruby bolt
are they not so good for tournaments?
solid meteor
use ARL for tourneys
keen mantle
nah it let me get the IS which gives me the D-10T 100mm gun for the T-44 which is very useful
ruby bolt
Is it worth to buy the T-150..?
solid meteor
I like it
keen mantle
I'd say yes it's a good tank but I don't like it personally
solid meteor
play it like an IS but heavier ?
calm inlet
If you use the 122mm gun on the T-44, i hope you’re not on my team lol
keen mantle
I'm gonna buy the pink camo on my KV-13 which is gonna be hilarious
calm inlet
The DPM is absolutely terrible
keen mantle
The IS stock gun is the first 100mm you get on the T-44 which is very useful tho
solid meteor
its like using the 75mm on t-i forgot the name but the mass produced soviet one
t-34
keen mantle
T-34?
keen mantle
it's decent and interesting but not really competitive beyond pub matches
the T-34-1 is very strong at tier 7 with that 100mm gun tho
solid meteor
gun depression?
keen mantle
bad, from tier 7-10 it's 5 degrees then 5 then 3 then 5 again
solid meteor
then no I wont
keen mantle
You do get alpha and sturdy turrets tho
and the tier 8 is about the size of an E25 lmao
solid meteor
E25 reminds me of the Stug for some reason
always loses its engine
does the drac have more chance of catching fire?
tropic rivet
I have stug III g
odd ferry
Can’t we all just be with the fact t49 ammo need to be little bit cheaper, per match most of the creddit lose will be with ammo
And if ammo racksd rip t49 creddits
lilac phoenix
So how would you angle with the 112 glacial?
hollow delta
°
keen mantle
meh Helsing more op at least the Drac takes skill
rapid barn
Dracula and helsing r both good
tepid minnow
Who dares to send replays the tank of shame?
spark basin
what tank
mortal basalt
As much as they put the time in to make those fricken fake tanks when they couldve put the time in to put new tanks on the tech tree and put new nations and put more prems on the tech tree
They already screwed the game up
silver flame
@mortal basalt too bad all that stuff would take more time and money
mortal basalt
Yeah but thats the point they wasted there money to put fake tanks in the game and instead of using that game to add new nations and new tanks
silver flame
True
lucid brook
Drac looks like CDC, but diffrent size, right?
lusty glade
lucid brook
:)))
tepid minnow
@solid gate wanna talk about type 5?
gentle path
Thse are the tanks being removed @hardy mauve
Basically all the fun tanks we all love
hardy mauve
No... :^(
gentle path
There goes diversity in vehicles in low tiers lol
hardy mauve
Why they don't add another nation
hardy mauve
Nah
solid gate
Italy and Swedesh (what ever country STRV comes from) tanks can be nice
short raptor
Sweden
noble bloom
What if the maps actually expand and they add nations arty or sweden and Italy lines?🤔 🤔 🤔
spark basin
@solid gate if wg can pull a polish tank line out of their ass i dont see how they cant make a nigerian line
hardy mauve
Czech tanks xd
faint holly
why cant wargaming just keep and include all (if possible) tanks that were in ww2
and originally made for ww2
spark basin
tank lines would be very short and boring
faint holly
hm i guess
yknow it takes a real long while for me to actually get to a higher tier
its near impossible for me to get any xp trying to get a tier 7 cus i always lose credits and earn very little xpp
solid gate
Can I ask?
This tank will be: WZ 120 1G FT
sometimes still for sale?
spark basin
it might be bad rng or lack of player skill
short raptor
Yeah, the distance between tier 6 and 7 is pretty ridiculous. Especially when the American tier 7 medium, possibly the worst on that tier, costs 65k xp
The SP 1 C is 15k xp less
solid gate
How can i get this WZ 120 1G FT hes not in shop
spark basin
you cant and shouldnt
hardy mauve
U must wait for deal
short raptor
Wait until Christmas, it’ll likely show up as a crate tank or something then
hardy mauve
Never again. I hate these boxes
short raptor
Honestly, I was glad the Drac and Helsing were crate tanks. Less people would get them because they get put off by that
solid gate
Me too boxes is so sad for all
short raptor
I wouldn’t play tier 7 again if it was all Helsing and Drac
Tier 6 or 8 either for that matter
spark basin
i've been seeing less draculas and helsings lately
but then again im playing on the asian server where tank queue numbers are small
hardy mauve
Draculas Hellsings and IS6 are everywhere. God please WG stop. What kind of idiot buy IS6
spark basin
i grinded for the is 6 in an event
hardy mauve
In my opinion IS5 is better
spark basin
it IS better thats the thing
short raptor
My personal favorite is the Glacial
At least in terms of the “Russian” heavy type tanks
hardy mauve
Glacial is very good tank
prime hull
General is boring anything cool here
vast belfry
@prime hull It'll be cool if someone started something.
Other than that, it's not really active elsewhere other than general.
prime hull
I just wanted to know if anyone has heard of the lord and savior of tier six
clearly the superior choice of the American line
vast belfry
M4A3E2?
prime hull
yes
little phoenix
I need to understand how the rhm is so slow and so unarmored does it have a weak engine
prime hull
I don't know I only play the M4A3E2
Because M4A3E8 is gae
Tryna play T29 like what even is this
spark basin
@little phoenix borsig is literally a huge gun carrier thats it
terse sequoia
React to this if u think the Ferdinand is amazing
solid gate
Хелло гуис ис тхэ СТ1 ани год?
graceful minnow
tf
pulsar sinew
@graceful minnow collector tank
obsidian violet
Rat tank model compared to Maus .... lol Jesus christ it's basicly a land moving battle ship
brisk pecan
Is that a blueprint/concept tank @obsidian violet? Also on a side note, in a training room I bounced a gravedigger in t28 concept. Armors great
obsidian violet
its a 3D model
mental knoll
It would suck in blitz it would be to big for the maps
brisk pecan
Is it based off of anything?
obsidian violet
if it was in real it would look like this
brisk pecan
So is it like...all on paper
obsidian violet
yeah it never was built because its impossible to build such thing in WW2
brisk pecan
Jesus...and they were whining about a fuel crisis....
mental knoll
Tanks could just drive under it and shoot up
tardy prawn
Beautiful we need this attachments
mental knoll
Also planes could easily bomb it
tardy prawn
And the tank
@mental knoll I think the ratte was suppose to have AA since its called a land cruiser
mental knoll
None on the blue prints
brisk pecan
@mental knoll first off you have to get close to it without being either ran over or blown skyhigh
mental knoll
How could it aim the cannons at planes
brisk pecan
....it would have AA guns.
tardy prawn
Same way IJN did 🤣
brisk pecan
Have you?
tardy prawn
Depends on what AA
mental knoll
Yes i have @brisk pecan
brisk pecan
Dude. If they were gonna make something that large and expensive you better fking believe they'll arm it to the teeth.
mental knoll
Shall I show you what the b17 had happen to it and it still bomb and get back?
empty lake
What AA guns do in the B-17 ? Shoots enemy aircrafts down of course .. Think ! 🙄
tardy prawn
If its just 1 mission then ehhh
brisk pecan
B17s are slow af. All one would have to do, if you were given info of it coming, you would merely have to fire a few cannons at it
spark basin
just spam planes at it so that the AA cant keep up
brisk pecan
Even then. Knowing germany back in WW2 they would have a more then healthy amount of AA defenses on that thing.
mental knoll
@tardy prawn to go Google and look up b17 battle damage photos
short raptor
B17s could take stupid amounts of damage and still make it home sometimes
tardy prawn
I dont trust photos it might be just one missions @mental knoll I want to see records of each missions the entire war
spark basin
the yamato had alot of AA but still died to planes
brisk pecan
Thats a ship.
tardy prawn
@spark basin cause the japs used it at the wrong time
brisk pecan
On water. Different battle environment
tardy prawn
☝
mental knoll
@tardy prawn then go to your library and get books about the b17 and you will know that it was nearly impossible to take them down when they fly in formation
brisk pecan
The RAT would have other support infantry, along with other mechanized armor. Dude. RAT wouldn't be a Frontline tank
mental knoll
And there bombs could land with in 30 feet of there target
tardy prawn
@mental knoll 1 its altitude 2nd its armour and yeah
mental knoll
It was a high altitude bomber
brisk pecan
It wouldn't be a frontline mechanized armor. It would be farther in the back, where it could be given an ideal setup to be defended effectively
That means AA guns as well
mental knoll
The b17 was also made for long rang
It was the best bomber of ww2
So ya it would have killed that tank before they even made it
brisk pecan
spark basin
the ratte would be detrimental to germany's resources
brisk pecan
Thats only slightly above 1/3. 1/3 out of the entire fleet wqs destroyed. While it might not seem like alot, it definitely is
tardy prawn
U know we dont really use bombers to kill a ship
brisk pecan
↑
tardy prawn
Morley dive bombers
brisk pecan
They used battleships/torpedos/cruisers
tardy prawn
Since ratte was meant to be a land ship
spark basin
i dont see how they cant considering the ratte is very big and slow
tardy prawn
@spark basin or will it even work
short raptor
How would you make the suspension not break on that thing?
brisk pecan
....it. would. Be. Heavily. Defended. And. Armed. To. The. Teeth.
If they made a huge investment in something like the RATTE you better sure af know they'll do their best to protect said investment
mental knoll
If they tryed to make it the Allie would have destroyed it before they could have completed it
spark basin
the ratte is more far fetched than actual mechs
tardy prawn
@brisk pecan it its gonna have a hard time crossing lakes
The maus cant even cross a bridge without breaking irl
spark basin
germany would not have the resources to build the ratte and technological restrictions too
tender sundial
If only Japan didn't attack the US
brisk pecan
@mental knoll you even watch any documentaries on ww2 or read about them? Nearly ONE THIRD of 12000 B17s were lost during the war. It isn't "invincible" as you say it is. And tbh I smell fanboy
pulsar sinew
Question
What part of this is #vehicles-discussion instead of #off-topic-discussion ?
tardy prawn
@tender sundial hitler had 2 choices b4 allying with japan its either he allies with japan or amurica
Alright
tender sundial
Oof
brisk pecan
Cuz they're vehicles @pulsar sinew and we're also discussing how such a large tank such as the RATTE would be well armed against Aircraft
mental knoll
@pulsar sinew the b17 is a vehicle
tardy prawn
Any other ridiculous tanks hitler planned
tender sundial
"balanced" he's gonna nerf us guys
tardy prawn
What about tanks ingame @tender sundial 😏
tender sundial
I wanna try the vk100
brisk pecan
The RATTE is a tank wrote on paper.
tender sundial
I wonder how much exp the top gun is
pulsar sinew
You can discuss the ratte as well
tardy prawn
Can we have karl tank
tender sundial
Can we have a game mode that's just misses like the t49A
mental knoll
It does not say what type anywhere in this chat if it said that i would but until then I will talk about any vehicle i like to
@pulsar sinew
tender sundial
Careful talking like that could get you beaned
short raptor
The Ratte is every bit as real as tanks like the JgPz E100 and E100...and KV-4...and CDC..etc
pulsar sinew
@mental knoll you will not
brisk pecan
Why to cross a river/lake in the RATTE over a bridge when you can just waterproof it and drive it directly across, since the damn thing would be taller then how deep the water was
tardy prawn
@mental knoll
ve·hi·cle\ˈvē-ə-kəl also ˈvē-ˌhi-kəl
noun
: a machine that is used to carry people or goods from one place to another
: the thing that allows something to be passed along, expressed, achieved, or shown.... This channel should be more specific
pulsar sinew
This is a wotb server. You can discuss tanks
spark basin
the ratte cant be pratically built but other blueprint vehicles can
undone wren
Is obj268 will be slow like obj704
mental knoll
@tardy prawn is a bomb not a good?
undone wren
I mean transverse speed
tardy prawn
Idk but it carries people so that counts
pulsar sinew
@undone wren 268 is faster for sure
brisk pecan
@tardy prawn legit tho. It would be taller then the depth of most lakes right
undone wren
Thanx god
pulsar sinew
Lol
short raptor
Traverse speed for 268 is pretty decent
spark basin
the lake floor would be destroyed by the ratte
tardy prawn
Not to mention it will sink on swamps or muddy terrain @brisk pecan
short raptor
This is assuming the Ratte doesnt just get stuck
brisk pecan
Wait.
tender sundial
The ratte looks like it'd be so heavy the ground under it would sink
tardy prawn
Super hype not super weapon kek
tender sundial
Gustav Arty?
tardy prawn
The same as a battleship range
short raptor
What kind of engine would they have to put in that thing to make it move anywhere close to 20-25 km/hr?
tender sundial
Feul storage
tardy prawn
Its called a land cruiser for a reason heh
short raptor
more like 20
brisk pecan
tender sundial
Likely something from a ship
short raptor
at the time even a v8 or v12 the most they could really output in terms of horsepower was 600
tardy prawn
If Germany had nuclear power theyd probably make lots of super machines since they dont need to worry bout the engine
short raptor
Thats not how nuclear power works...
tender sundial
Well itd probably be desil
tardy prawn
USS enterprise has a nuclear engine
tender sundial
5000horses
short raptor
Yeah, but it has an engine
brisk pecan
ELECTRIC motor.
tardy prawn
We could put it on ratte
little phoenix
This discussion is giving me chromosomes
short raptor
and nuclear ractors are massive. Carriers are still quite a bit bigger than the Ratte
Hell, smaller cruisers are as well
brisk pecan
Remember, you have to also have SHIELDING and safety systems
tardy prawn
@short raptor theres a story bout kid making a small reactor ya know
short raptor
Go watch Iron man somewhere else
brisk pecan
@tardy prawn thats not good enough to power something as massive as a RATTE
tardy prawn
@short raptor who says I'm taking about ironman
brisk pecan
The reactor alone would take most of the interior.
little phoenix
@tardy prawn are you a nuclear physicist? Bc if you aren't don't act like you know how a reactor works and saying all that bs
short raptor
Alright, how about this: How does Nuclear power drive a ship @tardy prawn
no google
brisk pecan
Simple. Steam can be used to spin turbines to supply power to the props directly or by via electric power.
little phoenix
I'm for a fact he is frantically reading Wikipedia rn
solid gate
P.1000 was supposed to have a 17.000 HP submarine engine doesn’t it?
short raptor
@brisk pecan 100 brownie points
brisk pecan
Thats how freight locomotives work. It uses a diesel engine to spin a turbine which in turn powers the electric motors.
obsidian violet
umm.... what happened to general and map server chat???
solid gate
@obsidian violet you just closed the Open communication Channel
U just see servers with New messages
short raptor
lol
tardy prawn
Restart discord
solid gate
Just click on « Open communication »
brisk pecan
And lets be honest, how tf would you fit a reactor big enough to propel the RATTE while also making sure you got everything else?
obsidian violet
@tardy prawn nope nothing happened lol
solid gate
Open
tardy prawn
Rip
obsidian violet
they pop in and off again
solid gate
Close
short raptor
You could possibly do it, but the electro-hydraulics you would need to steer the thing would also take up too much room
brisk pecan
@solid gate stop
solid gate
I just wanted to help
tardy prawn
Ttyl
obsidian violet
@solid gate ohhh i get it thanks for the help
brisk pecan
solid gate
Yw
short raptor
Great case-in-point, look how much space the Electric steering takes up on the TOG II*
brisk pecan
Yup @short raptor
obsidian violet
@brisk pecan dude... leave him alone, who are you to tell him stop? you're just a memeber not a mod so you should stop
brisk pecan
🤔
obsidian violet
-dude trying to help anther dude
- @brisk pecan "tell the dude to stop helping"
you're just wow
brisk pecan
There's a couple of TOGS somewhere lost within Britan's forests @short raptor
@obsidian violet no, I'm telling him to stop posting multiple images im a row. I'm sure it annoys most other mobile peeps present atm. If he wants to help he could dm.
short raptor
I guess if you got two submarine Diesel-Electric motors working in tandem using the system Porsche designed you COULD get enough power to power the Ratte
obsidian violet
and who are you to tell him to stop? It's none of your bznz dude
solid gate
Calm down guys the problem is over
brisk pecan
Uhhhh.... you're not having to deal with gravity pulling it down. @short raptor. Submarines float. In water.
short raptor
I know, I'm working in ideal conditions
obsidian violet
am clam dont worry it's just this dude have some problem lol anyway thanks again for help peace out @solid gate
short raptor
but the drive systems are not fundamentally different, even considering gravity
solid gate
Yep
But why can’t I add reactions anymore?I spammed them too much?
brisk pecan
Ehhhh.... there's not as much weight being pressed against in water @short raptor
graceful minnow
what is collectors tank @iRaikkonen [Pramo]#5070
short raptor
and also, there most certainly IS a lot of weight being pressed against a submarine
Water does in fact have weight
solid gate
@graceful minnow tanks hard to get or removed from the game
brisk pecan
Eyup it does. UwU god...I cant even begin to fathom how many issues they would have with developing a transmission. Whole gear teeth would be sheared right off.
short raptor
Yeah, that is the biggest problem, how would you make it so the mechanical pieces dont just implode
obsidian violet
WOW look at this attachment for Cheiften T95 ... i wish it was real it look so good
brisk pecan
There would have to be huge advances in material engineering
short raptor
Or you woud have to add massive hydraulic and electric bits to counter the force and not translate it into the transmission
But at that point it might make your transmission stop working anyway because of how complicated it would have to be
brisk pecan
No amount of gear ratios is going to be able to move something as huge as a RATTE. Oh dear... @short raptor...but with hydraulics...you have to develope something that could hold in extreme PSI
short raptor
Multiple transmissions maybe, but how could you make them work in tandem?
brisk pecan
You would still have to have advances in material science firstly
Firstly, fluid does not like being compressed. Thus...I can't even begin to fathom what kind of material could hold in that huge amount of psi
And god help you if the hose developed a small leak...a regular construction machine springing a leak is pretty forceful....
obsidian violet
another one for panther OMG am in love
short raptor
you would have to direct the forces in such a way as to spread it out over an exceedingly large area, but at that point you're managing to really run out of space in a pretty large vehicle
brisk pecan
Eyup. Or use multiple smaller systems
short raptor
But more than anything else, I do not see any way to make the suspension work
graceful minnow
@solid gate can i still play it
brisk pecan
God...just imagine trying to troubleshoot, find, diagnose, and fix a mechanical failure
short raptor
It would take a massive and exceedingly well drilled group. The tank is so large you might have to install service tunnels so that you don't have to take the entire thing apart.
brisk pecan
Perhaps...
solid gate
hello
the ru251 has three upgradable modules
the engine
I and II
and the tracks
I
brisk pecan
Welp the night grows old. I am retiring for the night. Rest well all! And I enjoyed talking about this with you so ill shoot you a friend request @short raptor
solid gate
ive goth the engine I
and the tracks I
short raptor
Yeah man, thnx for the brainstorm! Gnight!
solid gate
engine I and engine are not very different only30 bhp difference
but i see replays where people are literally ripping this in the battle field
but mine is not very fast
iron blade
Resarch
1)KV2 (c'mon now)
2)T150 (will be a collector tenk, armed with the tier 7 107mm ZIS-6 top gun, so maybe i don't need to worry about grinding cos its gonna be automatic)
spiral abyss
keen mantle
T28 HTC is a very good tank, not a very good credit grinder.
analog gate
How long for 5.5 update
short raptor
There is literally a whole channel dedicated to that question...
keen mantle
and my name
final lark
guys is the IS-5 worth purchasing?
grim moss
Yes very much worth it if you don't have any other tier 8 premium @final lark
tepid zodiac
lol it's worth it even If you have every tier VIII prems except IS-5... it's probably the most op and worth it tanks at this tier... and yeah the armor is really good but the gun is really crap
so it is perfectly balanced as all things should be
keen mantle
lol what no it's not the most op
tepid zodiac
nice
fervent pewter
the gun is not that bad but my winrate is only 48% in that thing
tepid zodiac
I mean most op for general public, remember noobs don't do well on german bulldog tho
fervent pewter
for some reason i really hate the is6
so much that i sold it
i think it is one of the weakest tier 8 is
austere basin
German bulldog op fite me
I sold my IS6 as well, is skill cap is SO. LOW. it’s not even funny. I much prefer lowe.
tepid zodiac
I know it's not that good myself, many tanks are better than IS-5 at that or that, just saying noobs generally do better with tanks with armour (unsurprisingly) and IS-5 have one of the best armor profiles at that tier
austere basin
You drive forward and shoot. If you try and overthink it the gun misses and you get triggered.
fervent pewter
yea lowe is super good
but the m4 49 is better
( i love both tank)
tepid zodiac
yup me too
austere basin
I have both. The Lowe has less dpm but the gun handling is waaay better. Both good tho
fervent pewter
it's just lowe can sidescrape m4 49 cant but m4 49 have the frontal armor to compensate that
tepid zodiac
and remember comrades russian bias is a thing in this game, your only job is only to drive forward, aiming and the rest will do Papa Stalin
for you
austere basin
Lowe frontal armour is op is the thing. You can bounce it’s lower plate with tier 8s it if Angles. It’s armour is highly underrated
tepid zodiac
agree
fervent pewter
yea alot of med have problem to pen that thing even with prem
tepid zodiac
I have both m4 49 and Lowe and yeah they both are awesome... and different and that I like the most
austere basin
Rip tier 7s
fervent pewter
why wont wg buff sp1c?
spark basin
brain damage
tepid zodiac
cuz they dont care
fervent pewter
leo 1 line deserve some love
the entire line is really hard for new player
leo 1 isnt bad but t62 a power creeped it
keen mantle
IS-6 skill cap isn't that low tbh it depends on the gun you use
fervent pewter
if is-6 have turret's cheek armor it would atleast be a medicore tank
keen mantle
no one ever hits that ever tbh
inland osprey
Everyone goes for the lower glacis
keen mantle
which is actually thicker than the upper plate
inland osprey
Oh
No wonder I bounced half of my IS3 shots
keen mantle
go for drivers hatch pro tip
solid gate
Хэй гуис
Доес анионе спэк Руссайн?
Нет
Он Хэй
и сан типе амерян то вот нот веры велл
и гтг ся гуис
tepid zodiac
cyka blyat
inland osprey
Uhm where is the drivers hatch
oblique pollen
Just great. 40% players everywhere today
misty sonnet
Is 49% bad
tepid zodiac
yep
oblique pollen
I lost 0.02% WR
odd ferry
@pulsar sinew can’t one of the moderators just change my name in the server, other servers do the same so is that a solved problem??
solid gate
No
tepid zodiac
doubt so
prime crest
Well, no? The chances the mm gives you a shit team is like 48% so... Nah...
lament smelt
@solid gate only a few people with a large number of battles have 80% wr max
Some people have 100% wr but only 1 or 2 battles total
solid gate
Oh yeah lol
So i just finished a battle with my new fully upgraded Tiger (P) and it was a blast
Dude Gravediggers dont stand a chance
obsidian pewter
guys is the IS3 good ?
solid gate
I bounce thier shots
Im not sure peeps say its not the same as before
People say its just like the IS 6 or IS 5
solid gate
Yeah peeps say to get the IS 5
IS 3 is just overshadowed by it
I love the Tiger P. So worth the grind
225 alpha every 5 sec hqhah
And remarkable armour
IS-3 is overrated
?
Long profile?
Am i missing somthing?e
Ppl thinks that it’s way better than it is really
What the IS 3?
Yep
Yes. Im not sure why. I thought there was a recent update that nerfed the IS 3
I don’t think
Maybe releasing Type 62 and chinese IS-2 with 250 mm of HEAT pen made it suffer
Ooooh
And, IS-5 is just an IS-8 in tier 8 (with a gun similar to IS-3’s one)
This and credit making ability makes it better I think
obsidian pewter
hmmm
honest lance
will vk72 replace the maus or e100 etc in tour?
fickle moss
erm guys a bit of a tip in handling 113 wen they face hug (this applies to tanks with high caliber guns), shoot the part above the upper plate (i.e. the armour thts flat horizontally) u will overmatch it, tried it with is-7 and i consistently overmatched it so my guess is 130mm and higher
hybrid maple
M1 Abrams is NO.1
umbral lion
M1IP muh freedom
fickle moss
@honest lance what do u mean??
obsidian violet
in mad games i was driving Kpfpz 70 then a 183 appeared he thought i would deal 560 dmg then i dropped hammer modification and hit him for 1000 LMAO
grand iris
Ey radical boi
fickle moss
ayyyyy
solid gate
What about T57 Heavy 1800 dmg in a clip ?
fickle moss
how abt fv215b 183 1.8k-2k dmg :3
solid gate
Ouch
fickle moss
i think the best is ammoracking a full hp maus :3 how satisfying is tht? free 2.5k dmg
fickle moss
nope fv215b 183 still beats to it
raven rampart
dense pendant
I'm not sure if it is the best since all TDs in tier 10 have their own forte which is difficult to compare
fickle moss
@dense pendant he did say dmg wise which is true fv215b 183 is the highest alpha dmg in the game
dense pendant
I agree though
lean laurel
vast belfry
How to play Jpanther?
devout osprey
Get to a good place and start shootin
vast belfry
Is DPM good?
solid gate
Hello, will the tank WZ-120-1G FT still in the store?
or leKpz M 41 90 mm
fickle moss
yup pretty good, pen is also great for a tier 7
essentially it carries a similar 88mm to the tiger 1 88mm gun
might be the same actually
vast belfry
@fickle moss @devout osprey Thanks.
devout osprey
Yeah but go head on with enemy, you armor is paper to others
vast belfry
I can see that. 80mm frontal armour and not a very good angle. 110mm-ish armour effectiveness. Tier 6 meds can pen easily.
fickle moss
well just play it as frontline support or simply secondline support depending on how the battle plays out
devout osprey
With that 10,5cm gun you’ll dealt like 280->300 damage per shot, feelsgoodman
fickle moss
most of the time u have to be the support since thts essentially the role of a TD
the rest of how to play it.... use the map to see where ur allies/ enemies are going
and respond accordingly
and make use of tht dpm on tht tank
fickle moss
@vast belfry base dpm of 2455 with gun rammer plus provisions, 2795
vast belfry
@fickle moss Thank you!
fickle moss
right now im at jg pz 4 making my way to jpanther lol
honest plinth
Churchill 1 sucks
Grinding it is horrible the bloody matilda top gun is better than the stock and your next upgrade is gonna cost u 5k exp
I can barely penetrate a stug im slower than a wall and less effective than a wall
solid gate
What tank should I buy wich 2700 gold
I would like the pz5
Panzer V/IV
Ok
It has a Panther hull, incredible ramming ability and good Front armor, it’s fast but I think that Traverse speed isn’t as good as Panther
Ok should I wait to de offers
silent rivet
Bonjour à tous
Vous pensez quoi du char lourd le tigre 2 ?
fickle moss
@silent rivet welcome to english channel
solid gate
@silent rivet WG said that they will maybe add channels for different languages
hollow phoenix
Guess what tank is this
silent rivet
In french please 😅
fickle moss
we need a french speaker to help this man
spark basin
panzer 4 hydrostat
silent rivet
Thank guys
😊
hollow phoenix
🙂
fickle moss
@solid gate i think u shud pm him instead the mods may not like people speaking a diff lang here
silent rivet
Ah ok merci je vais essayer de faire avec un traducteur donc merci 🙂
spark basin
they really don't like different languages
solid gate
Ok
fickle moss
meanwhile salty person in #502018436692443137 salts me for poking in his business ._.
he seriously isnt having a great day or perhaps was nvr a great person ._.
pulsar sinew
It is an English server... with the expectation of people speaking english
If you want to speak other languages take it to dms
slow mural
Bro, shut up with your narrow minded bs, you can speak whatever here
solid gate
@slow mural it's difficult to moderate a big server with many active people as it is we have no reason to make it harder for them by talking languages they don't know
pulsar sinew
@slow mural erm. Excuse me?
tepid zodiac
yeah what the heck man, he should be muted for that
solid gate
XD wow
tepid zodiac
funny thing is that by playing blitz and communicating with other players or teammates in game or here with english I am slowly but steadily forgeting my native language, which is czech lol
solid gate
Idk why but I feel like iRakkonen is like the only active mod XD
pulsar sinew
@slow mural please explain
tepid zodiac
Idk about you other non english native speakers but I feel like that 😀
solid gate
Well I have to go to school so I speak Slovak fairly often
A few months ago my english level was lower than my polish level
I don’t speak polish
😂 😂
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Please don’t be offended
But english is doodoo
Ah I love poetry
Ни гуис
анионе он?
English ?
Илл три
I can but not very wel
Helo?
That's okay just so everyone can understand you
Ok thancs
:) so what was your question
What is your favoratte tank?
Ohhh
KV-2
Kv?
Yours ?
Oh кв2
Yesss 👍 👍
Yours ?
Wel my is uhhhhh
I dont konw how to say this but for td it is the обж line
Object
stable nest
i like T 43
stable nest
i dont like chinese tank tho
solid gate
XDD
odd ferry
Delete gravedigger pls
solid gate
NEVER
devout osprey
^
stable nest
gravedigger is ok
stable nest
should i go for t-62A or obj 140?
odd ferry
Obj 140
devout osprey
any tips on the crappy Tiger II?
odd ferry
Obj is good to bounce enemy shots if you play well
devout osprey
which Obj tho, the TD or teh Heavy
stable nest
IS 4 or 7?
solid gate
ис 7
devout osprey
7
stable nest
tips on IS 3?
devout osprey
sorry i don't
stable nest
cause i cant seem to pen
devout osprey
hm
solid gate
What tier eihgt do you guys havve?
devout osprey
idk the best tip for you is too advoid TIger I, since their 88s can pen mostly everywhere on your IS-3
stable nest
i only have IS3
stable nest
what tank is best for wr grinding?
solid gate
Охх ооо спэк Руссайн?
Get tanks first before you start worrying about your WR
Uhhh niet sorry
stable nest
i cant seem to get out of 46 wr lol
solid gate
Нет?
stable nest
i swear it's my team falt
solid gate
Ohhh it is okk
That's what they all say.
Jaylee I am Slav but I can't read Russian
Oh its ok
I am ila miix of a loot of things but i type russain and american but i speak russain
Ops i mentt i spek amarican
Well it is always good to speak more languages
Thacks
Also it is English and not American XDD
Oh
So whoo Has a teir tenn
stable nest
not me :((
solid gate
Sam
stable nest
chinese heavy or medium?
stable nest
you must played for long
tepid zodiac
@solid gate we all are slavs lol
solid gate
I've been playing since patch 1.2
Wait Е100 M46 паттон обж 268 анд ис 7?
Yes
Oh
and MAUS
Муас?
Yes :)
Oh
Im learninggg How to tpye beter
In english
It's okay you're doing good
Thancs
brazen rampart
cyrillic alfabet is hard for us so i expect this alfabet to be hard for you
solid gate
It is
brazen rampart
especially because it is an other language too
solid gate
I tpye russain
English alphabet makes no sense
We have C that makes sound of K or S, X sounds like or gz or ks...
Plenty of useless letters
stable nest
but it look good tho
brazen rampart
my russian doesn't go farther then da, njet, privjet, tovarish and dasvidanya
and ofc cyka blyat
solid gate
Don’t forget about vodka
Haha i kow rihgt
English was a pain to learn for me lol
Although French have slightly the same alphabet
brazen rampart
@solid gate try learning dutch
tepid zodiac
ikr
solid gate
@brazen rampart try learning magyar
brazen rampart
ye nah
tepid zodiac
@brazen rampart yeah relatable me as well
solid gate
Who hass th e german tank destroiisr
brazen rampart
i have a few
stable nest
i prefer russian destroyer
tepid zodiac
I have the almighty jageroo
solid gate
Jageroo?
brazen rampart
i have till emil and jgpz4
solid gate
JagdPanzer E-100 @solid gate
It’s a nickname
tepid zodiac
yup
solid gate
Ohh thancs
brazen rampart
at school i have to learn English, Dutch, French and German
solid gate
Wait all those languages?
stable nest
thats alot of language
brazen rampart
yeah
solid gate
I had French (native language) english and spanish Now learning russian bcz I want it
But does any one tpye russain
stable nest
i want to learn russian too but cant seem to find the time to
solid gate
@stable nest me too 😦
brazen rampart
yeah i tried but i don't have time either
stable nest
вlyat
solid gate
Haha
brazen rampart
wrong bl
stable nest
i know lol
solid gate
Привет я французский
brazen rampart
privjet something
solid gate
You are rihgt
stable nest
my grand ma can speak russian but she wont teach me :((
solid gate
I siad oh you sepak russain
brazen rampart
sad
stable nest
all she does is makes puns
solid gate
Does any one want to platon
stable nest
what server?
solid gate
My parents listened the red army Songs so much when I was younger
I guess that’s why I want to learn the language of the Motherland
brazen rampart
Thats the spirit!
solid gate
Since i live in usa i gues the na server
brazen rampart
i was looking for some russian metal bands so i can learn/listen to the language but i can't find any
stable nest
but blitz is also server based
brazen rampart
yeah
stable nest
do it
solid gate
@brazen rampart I learn how 2 pronouce russian singing USSR anthem 😂
brazen rampart
in #blitz-memes
good enough @solid gate
or just post the meme in here and we'll se what elite thinks of it
solid gate
When people ask me what is my favorite songe plays soveit anthom i say its complatecd
That is me lol
jade orbit
Delete Fv183
solid gate
It is not the meme but
stable nest
just post it lol
solid gate
@jade orbit stop asking for deleting such a fun tank (((
I posted it
It is on memes
brazen rampart
its popular, just like what they said about the kv2 they are not gonna remove it
solid gate
Just learn how 2 play against it I have Not grinded it yet I don’t want it to be removed before I could play it!
north bloom
what advantages do collector rank tanks have?
brazen rampart
none
stable nest
yeh just sidescrape
north bloom
makes me sad
stable nest
they can be sell for gold
north bloom
i wasted so much time on the vk 30 H
solid gate
Does any one new her tpye russain
I can type with russian letters but I don’t speak russian (((
Ohhh yay
вот до ооо кнов внат и ам саинг
Зис ис енглиш вис руссян леттерз
Он со нов тхат и сан тпе беттер внат ис танк до ооо лике?
brazen rampart
oi where are the ppl that are annoyed that there should only be english in here
tulip edge
Is other languages allowed?
stable nest
i think its ok to communicate in whatever language they like
brazen rampart
nah idc about it
solid gate
I wont =(
tulip edge
I dont think its allowed idk
brazen rampart
the mods really only want english, not even german what is pretty easy to translate
stable nest
well as long as they dont say anything yet
solid gate
=(
brazen rampart
yeah, elite is probably asleep
solid gate
Who ar the mods?
brazen rampart
moderators. the ppl in yellow
tulip edge
Are you on a phone
solid gate
Yes
tulip edge
Swipe left then they always appear online
solid gate
Ok
stable nest
but how do you ask them tho?
tulip edge
dm them or @ them
solid gate
I soulld be on the youtubeers cuz im a youtubber ha
brazen rampart
dm or @ mention
solid gate
Haha
stable nest
he posted it here anyway, what a legend
solid gate
Is that bad?
stable nest
no lol
tulip edge
that shouldnt be here should it♿️
stable nest
as long as no ones bother
brazen rampart
heh
solid gate
Can i post one mor?
stable nest
sure
stable nest
oh shoot its a mod, everyone act natural
brazen rampart
yay there are the mods haha
stable nest
he's not here anymore go ahead lol
stable nest
oh shoot he bacc
fleet berryBOT
{GG} Jaylee925#7141 has been warned.
lament anvil
This would be a very BALANCED TIER 10
tulip edge
yes
pulsar sinew
Not with that gun
stable nest
is 4?
pulsar sinew
.6 dispersion
solid gate
Im sorry ill just leave =(
pulsar sinew
Ok
stable nest
aww dont leave bro
solid gate
='(
rustic oar
Ay
uneven hazel
hello
rustic oar
Ay
dreamy lantern
@lament anvil what's that,some kind of failed project ?
solid gate
Fv215b any good?
rustic oar
VK 100 P(an upcoming tank on 5.5)
Is an tier 7 right?
solid gate
Nope it is a tier 8
stable nest
is it big?
solid gate
As much as Tiger II I think
stable nest
oooooo i like that
solid gate
will ever tank leKpz M 41 90 mm in sale?
and how much will it cost?
glacial bough
it did 3 weeks ago or so, it was 8500 gold
solid gate
It has been in sale 2 times and is reward of rating battles or tournament
solid gate
@solid gate @glacial bough ok thanks
peak sundial
Ever seen the KV-2 turret on the IS-4 hull? That would be a pretty epic tank in blitz
solid gate
Nonsense + 1
stable nest
kv2 turret on any tank would be epic
near forge
I have PTSD from thinking about that @peak sundial .....
peak sundial
Making the world a better place one step at a time
merry grove
U guys think the kpfpz needs some love?? ❤ ❤
solid gate
Yes So underrated
merry grove
I think it can be a beast... But so much flaws
solid gate
Problem is the weakspot on the turret and taller tanks can hit the top of its hull while facehugging it
Also why 150mm guns deals 560 dmg instead of 640
merry grove
If they can boost the armour....
I think not to make it op??
tranquil maple
Balance , only E100 can have 640dmg
solid gate
Why
merry grove
E100 is massively op
solid gate
Nope it needs Skills to angle
And that optic bar is annoying gets HESHed
tranquil maple
No , its not op , i have 700games with e100
merry grove
But if u play against someone with no gold rounds??
solid gate
It’s huge and the turret armor is almost flat, lfp is big too, needs skills to bounce TD shots
merry grove
A heavy is going to struggle... And if u are a med u need to hope that u can get its side or back as fast as u can.... And stressing about that dmg...
@solid gate true that...
solid gate
And tier 10 = 3 TDs in a game, moslty 183s shooting HESH at your optic bar, 1400 damage at your front, really need to know how to play it I think
merry grove
But the TDs need to know what they're doing???
And so you need to play a bit to get the hang of it??
solid gate
I think but I don’t got E-100 yet
I suck at Tier 10 (((
merry grove
😂 😂 😂
dreamy lantern
@tranquil maple played it 1400 times ,not OP at all ,strong tank but not OP,certainly not as good when I re-bought it and I was winning battle after battle ,now it's not that wow ,people will just HEAT you and done,you are good as a trader ,but recently(past 5 months) I had no fun playing any of my tanks ,not even my favourite tanks ,to many scrubs that are failing they're way to tier 10 ,to many campers in all classes that should not camp(heavy,medium and light) ,to many people thinking that if they will let the team weaken the enemy they can come at the final and be the hero ,to many lights going blindly into enemy groups and getting killed ,you can't play E100 or any tank of your team litteraly want to die ,you can't keep them alive if they want to die ,you can tell them what to do or where to go ,but they will screw things up anyway ,I understand that there are new players ,and I consider that a new player has an excuse until it reach 10k battles ,after that there is a problem,you either can't see how things are going ,either you suck,I saw so many players that have like 30k battle and they have over 1k average battle because they sucked a lot at tier 10 to get that ,with other words ,there is no tank that can deal with a crap team that are doing what they want instead of what they should do
red pewter
Spricht wer deutsch???
vast belfry
English! @red pewter
brazen rampart
i can translate german
red pewter
Ah
merry grove
@dreamy lantern i didn't thought of it like that....
tranquil maple
@dreamy lantern, Im too lazy to read that , but if u see my msg I clearly said "its not op
dreamy lantern
Yes not OP
red pewter
Hä ?
dreamy lantern
I was talking about the playerbase
red pewter
Ah ok!
dreamy lantern
And how crap it is
tranquil maple
Remember every e100 game used to be cost -30k to -50k credits
Because of HEAT cost
merry grove
I'm still... Let's say new to the game... With 800 battles still.... But from what i saw it's terrifying on the field... Like the maus
But thanks for all the opinions😂 👌
dreamy lantern
I think we need our version of XVM
red pewter
Yes!!!
fickle moss
ya but the thing is wg does not recommend us to install mods because they say theres a chance u might be banned
tho i wonder how is it WOT PC allows mods
pulsar sinew
Xvm is an awful idea for blitz
solid gate
What are you think about Löwe?
fickle moss
good all-rounder
latent moth
it's broken
oblique pollen
Better after the armor buff.
dreamy lantern
@solid gate will print you money
fickle moss
so erm guys
solid gate
Huh? @dreamy lantern
fickle moss
whaddya think of the indien panzer?
dreamy lantern
@solid gate I mean it's a very good credit maker
dreamy lantern
Yeah ,and the mantlet it's like a mask ,covers almost the entire turret
latent moth
It's a decent medium tank @fickle moss
solid gate
You now that (Löwe) is Lion in German @dreamy lantern
dreamy lantern
@fickle moss never played it ,but someone told me it's a nice tank
fickle moss
wonder why so much rear armour ._.
dreamy lantern
@solid gate crap side
fickle moss
the gun seems a bit dismal
dreamy lantern
The same like on crusader
@solid gate yeah I knew ,I wish I could have a teacher to teach me German,I like how it sounds
I mean I know some words from the song Moskau ,from wot the quotes that crew is using
solid gate
@dreamy lantern There are many ways to learn German. italki, babbel. If you want to learn the language then do and learn more about different cultures in cities of Germany
jaunty atlas
what???? the crusader is OP anyone have tips for playing with the PT A
fickle moss
hmm... play it as tho ur left with 1 hp
solid gate
😂 😂 😂 that's actually so true
dreamy lantern
@solid gate I am interested in Germany,Bavaria in particular
jaunty atlas
use duolinguo
solid gate
Then learn? I don't think there much excuse not to learn a language if you are interested that much
The PT A is like a CDC or BC the moment you pop out you lose all of your HP
dreamy lantern
@jaunty atlas yeah crusader is OP ,and for leopard play suport ,find someone that need help and shoot ,never be the focus
solid gate
@jaunty atlas Duolingo won't teach u how to conversate
hushed harness
If I’m really good in the cdc would I be good in the leopard?
solid gate
Probably
hushed harness
Sam playstyle?
dreamy lantern
@solid gate I would like ,when I was young to choose between french and German,not to decide they for me
@hushed harness tier 10 one or tier 9?
jaunty atlas
@solid gate good tip thx and good point
severe steeple
Nou
hushed harness
@dreamy lantern tier ten
dreamy lantern
Hmmm ,not a strong tank ,it requires a lot of skill comparing with his tier 10 brother that it's way more flexible ,yeah you have super good pen ,and every tier 8 will die under your shells
@hushed harness you will enslave every noob then ,I love the tier 10 ,super good ,but super thin
hushed harness
Sounds good lol
dreamy lantern
I mean the gun handling is so good ,that I put supercharged and refined gun
solid gate
Just try to stay away from : 183 , obj 268 , e100 and every other gun that does more than 450 alpha with AP
dreamy lantern
You will have like more than 1940M per second with your APCE
solid gate
But 200 mm at tier four with no hetzer derp
dreamy lantern
Yeah ,good luck penning that ,but for that are the premium rounds
solid gate
But it’s tier 4, noob town, put a good player in it and it’s hilarious
dreamy lantern
I will rather play the STUG III G
hushed harness
Stug is very gud
solid gate
I wold too, I’m also glad they are removing the flak bus from the tech tree
dreamy lantern
To good