vehicles-discussion

[violet timber]

Oh wow, going against bad players who can't aim means that a tank's armor works, crazy

[karmic gale]

warning if you see a tiger 2 or a KV-4 or a polish td your cooked

[karmic gale]

im not talking about the video i sent

[violet timber]

I know

[blissful cave]

Well the same can be said here
Bad players that don’t know where to shoot a KV-3 are gonna bounce me a lot

[karmic gale]

true

[violet timber]

The majority of tier 6/7 players can't aim and don't know that the "2" key exists

[blissful cave]

So yea so far KV-3 is not a bad tank at all I think, but ngl Tiger 1 is still better

[karmic gale]

they could be on mobile

[violet timber]

My point still stands...

[blissful cave]

Alright this game was against a bunch of tier 7 heavies and yeah the cracks start to show through

Bullying a bunch of tier 6’s is easy but when you have to pick on someone your own size it’s just alright

[blissful cave]

Went back to mark grinding and every single time I’m reminded why canyon is an absolutely horrible map

[karmic gale]

all maps that higher tiers get suck

[zealous blaze]

KV-3 one of the best heavy tank for me

[still harness]

Anyone got a tech tree line I should go for?

[karmic gale]

id recommend either the E-100,IS-4 or FV215b (the one without 183)

[karmic gale]

or maybe the grille 15 or maus

[blissful cave]

You sure not the IS-4 line?

[blissful cave]

I love T95 it looks impenetrable but apparently whenever I play it it doesn’t feel like it :/ even with very small lump cupolas it seems like everyone can hit them plus also recently found out it’s pretty easy to pen it through the tracks if it’s slightly angled

If they patch penning it through the track wheel that’ll be pretty good, cupolas are small enough to look like they’d be hard to hit

For some reason it seems like everyone has no problem hitting it tho

[karmic gale]

the churchill 1,churchill 7 and black prince are op

OMG THE TIGER P IS SO GOOD just need to get past the VK 100 is the mäuschen any good?

[steel lark]

Shower me with praise!

[thorny mulch]

[blissful cave]

Is it better than KV-3?

[lament apex]

Better than E4
In general pretty solid although it's also depressing

[lament apex]

Anything better than KV-3 🙄

[blissful cave]

Lmaooo

[lament apex]

Not really
Tortoise much slower and barely can hide cupola and shoot without exposing other weak spots

[blissful cave]

Nvm what I said about tier 7-8 being the biggest power gap
It’s tier 5-6

7-8 just has a huge gap in I think armor or just tier 8 heavies are untouchable to an average tier 7 or something
But tier 5’s have like 500 HP fighting 1000-1200 HP tanks tanks with over double your HP and youll get like 3 shot by most tier 6 heavies

[junior pasture]

Skill level, what tanks you like to play, and for enjoyment or comp/serious

[still harness]

Really any tank with decent armor and good dpm

[junior pasture]

You should try the FV201 A45 if u like those tanks

[junior pasture]

Doesn’t really narrow it down… M48 Patton, E50M, you’re looking for decently armored mediums im guessing

[still harness]

Good reload time with good armor for ricochet then?

[junior pasture]

bro ur literally repeating what you said 😭

[still harness]

I’m terrible at this game ok really any tank that’s good for grinding credits

[still harness]

Just give me a tank that you think is good and I will go for it

[junior pasture]

Now you’ve switched to a completely different topic. For grinding credits, t10s aren’t the best. Get a t8 collector/premium such as Lowe, Bisonte, T34, T77, T54E2, mainly heavies will be less punishing.

[junior pasture]

For good t10s, since you’re new I suggest a heavy, such as IS-7, E5, Type 71, these are easy tanks for new players, theyre less punishing. Maybe stick with E5 and Type 71 as their grinds are less painful 💔

[still harness]

Ok👍 thanks for the tips

[junior pasture]

Anytime 🙂

[cerulean kettle]

hello, is the t-100 LT worth grinding?

[junior pasture]

do u have sheri

[steel lark]

@merry charm @surreal osprey what's your thouhts on the BZ-75?

[cerulean kettle]

whatst hat

[timber torrent]

American tier 10 lt no armour but 152mm gun.

Bassically with t100lt you gotta play hit n run. Harrass one guy then retreat and then repeat.

And plus its fast and good for spotting. Cuz it got them special shells mechanic.

But if u aint familiar with LTs and the spotting sistem works get a ht like type 71. The grind aint too bad. Personally only the Chi-Se gave me problems. The tier 9 is rlly good imo. Good gun depresion and armour especially if hulldown. Trust me

[thorny mulch]

Yes. You have the tracer shell mechanic

I also recommend the bc 25t

[cerulean kettle]

french light tank?

[marsh grove]

Yes

[thorny mulch]

Yes, very versatile and strong in the current meta

[main kernel]

WG plz restore the T11OE3 to it's former glory. Now it's a joke & even in hulldown it can't hold the line properly. PBR made it's armour worse

[keen shore]

Black Prince gets super consumables unlike A45 iirc.

[keen shore]

Why should one play it over TVP?

[stone hinge]

Hi guys,Good morning everyone, I wanted to ask you what would be the best tank tree to follow. I'm currently following the Tiger 1/2 tree, but they have low damage, low speed, and it leaves me very stuck. I'm using Tiger 1

[mental perch]

Follow the line and get tier X. Tigers are very good

[stone hinge]

The E100?

[mental perch]

Yeah

E100 is meta rn. Also don't use derp gun

[stone hinge]

Tyyy

[mental perch]

https://tenor.com/view/chihaya-anon-anon-chihaya-bang-dream-bang-dream-its-mygo-bang-dream-its-mygo-episode-12-gif-3930304106434746850

[marsh grove]

Early Autoloader gameplay idk

Id play only the tier 9-10 TVP

[karmic gale]

thx ill do it after i get the maus

[keen shore]

I mean like Batchat 25 vs TVP 50/51
Tier X vs Tier X.

[marsh grove]

If were talking like 1 v 1 headon without actually fighting? Id prob say bc would win if its the small gun compared to Tvp's because of the reload
Although TVP has like 150ish more HP, more pen and normalization

[steel lark]

And another one

[steel lark]

It's premium heavy tank. Good DPM but the armor requires you to hull down and stay off the front line as it can be penned by even the lower tiers relatively easily.

[karmic gale]

tiger P is so underrated

[agile geyser]

i'm not understanding why i see so many now, did the tank get a buff?

[karmic gale]

no if anything its gotten worse but its still really good and better than the tiger 1

chat how good is the stock ferdinand?

[blissful cave]

Looking at the new PBR models and holy cupola I didn’t know 59 Patton had two turrets💀

[hidden crown]

Looks like this is where T110E5's cupola go...

[blissful cave]

The commander in this tank be like:

https://external-preview.redd.it/patricks-glasses-v0-29P4iXZITk7tq2KKhOYCNU4Wc-4isLo6NniTdG6QQkU.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=51f63540497037435fde6d95b1258e6cbcc3d391

[agile geyser]

Then gets his head blown smooth off by an ACPR shell

[blissful cave]

Lmao looking at my M48 Patton model this version of the cupola really is that massive

I don’t remember there being that whole line of periscopes and then the mg

I’m more used to the M60 one where the periscopes are built into the dome part

[junior pasture]

Pretty sure it’s the other way around, as A45 gets tungsten and adrenaline. I’ll check and confirm tho

[hearty kelp]

Ur right

[junior pasture]

Tiger I was definitely stronger imo. Troll armor, good dpm, basically a really strong heavium in tier 7, could go toe to toe with annihilators and smashers if played well.

[keen shore]

I mean, does the Black Prince not have reactive armor and super speed boost? Adrenaline is not a super consumable as any tank without autoreloading/autoloading has it.

[junior pasture]

Only has super speed boost.

[hearty kelp]

No it doesn’t. Only super speed boost and adrenaline. Ur thinking of the a45

[junior pasture]

I think if we gave BP reactive it would make it too OP

[karmic gale]

for some reason im doing way better in the tiger P im gonna get the ferdinand after and go to the jagdpanzer E-100 and then the maus

[keen shore]

Cope, Tiger I is better. Good armor without cheek weakspots and very good mobility. Tiger P is better because of sandbags and tungsten but those alone cannot offset how slow and sluggish it is, and the gun handling is worse too.

[junior pasture]

Please don’t get the jageroo. In it’s current state it’s pretty bad.

[keen shore]

I mean Caernarvon has reactive no? Or was it changed too?

[karmic gale]

they couldn’t care less about OP tanks if they did the tiger II,smasher,KV-2 and everything from the hybrid nation wouldn’t be there

[junior pasture]

No? Caernavon only has super speed boost.

[junior pasture]

Tiger II isn’t OP and the hybrid tree isn’t too OP

[karmic gale]

i have to because then i would have to get the maus and the VK 100.01P is a piece of garbage

[keen shore]

Darn. Alright, makes sense tho, having reactive and sangbags would be annoying to deal with.

[karmic gale]

everything before the AC 07 is op and how is the tiger II not op

[junior pasture]

i dont understand what you mean? so you’re getting the jageroo so you don’t have to get the maus?

[karmic gale]

the VK 100.01P leads up to the maus and its terrible

[junior pasture]

You can easily gold through the entire hull. It can be a bully for lower tiers but at the same tier, there are so many better tanks. You’re not giving a reason for the AC tanks being OP. VK 100.01 isn’t that bad, at this point it’s seeming like more of a skill issue (no offense) rather than the tank being bad…

[karmic gale]

not that good armor, slow reload time,the tank itself is pretty slow and doesn’t do enough damage the VK 100.01P would only be good against tier 7s when your against someone your size in that tank its terrible

[junior pasture]

i’ll admit it is powercrept. But you have to use it to your advantage. A superheavy’s main job is to soak up damage. Armor is decent, as long as you hide your lower plate and try to hide your tumor and avoid showing your turret cheeks. Angling will make your lower plate stronger, side armor is somewhat troll. Reload is bad because it’s a 460 alpha which is on the higher side of heavies meaning you can trade. Not dealing enough damage may be related to team reliance, but idk

[karmic gale]

i was gonna get the IS-4 but the KV-4s accuracy is terrible and ive never heard anything good about the ST-1

[junior pasture]

How many battles do you have, what WR. I want to recommend you a good line.

[karmic gale]

the KV-4 is on a different account on the one i have now no joke exactly 1000 battles and a 56.70% wr

[karmic gale]

i have 3 aces 1 from a VK 30.01P one from a nashron one from a SU-100M1

[junior pasture]

prob due to playing bots, your WR is slightly inflated. I’d recommend grinding the E5 line, Type 71, or E4 line. They’re all good hull down tanks and quite strong, with good lines.

[karmic gale]

do they reload somewhat quick?

[junior pasture]

Yes. You could also go for the Kranvagn line, although that is an autoreloader.

[karmic gale]

and what exactly is wrong with the JP-E-100

[junior pasture]

Lost it’s tungsten, extremely team-dependent, low carry factor, not really that much of a fear factor, extremely susceptible to lights and mediums.

[karmic gale]

how is the stock mäuschen

[junior pasture]

Never play stock vehicles from tiers 8+. I just don’t want to suffer through that so I can’t tell.

[karmic gale]

o

how is the ferdinand and jagdtiger?

[junior pasture]

Ferdinand is not the greatest, but jagdtiger is very strong for it’s tier.

Another choice you have for hulldown heavies is the 60tp, which has 600 alpha but slightly long reload

[karmic gale]

so ferdinand is like mid? and how is the Jtiger against tier 10s

[junior pasture]

Yea ferdinand is mid. Jagdtiger has around 4k dpm, so if it catches anything out in the open, it will rip into it very fast.

[karmic gale]

DAYUM

[thorny mulch]

If they nerf the jagt i wont be surprised

[robust inlet]

💔

[karmic gale]

yeah i gotta grind QUICK

[zealous blaze]

This line is so expensive I prefer Pz. Kpfw VII line

[junior pasture]

Son, no one finna gift 10 usd to a random on discord

[sullen abyss]

[karmic gale]

im a broke 14 year old man

[junior pasture]

Every line costs the same amount of credits and Vk 72 line is the same cost

Plus, regular jgtiger is better tier for tier

[junior pasture]

Good battle, but the FV215B might be a hard tank for new players such as you to play as it is heavily skill based. Nevertheless, good stuff!

[spiral heart]

what is the playstyle of the proggeto 65 ? i can do very well in the standard b but in the prog im quite helpless and cant do anything can anyone tell how to play this tank

[timber torrent]

I pulled the carro 45t from a mt container... Is it good?

[dim juniper]

Guys, please rate my technique.

[ember laurel]

yea

good mt

[marsh grove]

💔
Stop begging
Save up money or something

[elfin ingot]

3 mark obj 263

[pallid flame]

No begging.

[timber torrent]

Why tho

[ember laurel]

3 clip of 360 dmg for a mt with 1900 hp

has mid armour tho

[marsh grove]

Able to hulldown and use that sloped turret armor ig

[ember laurel]

sorta

[marsh grove]

Maybe against something like APCR, itd do well in a hulldown

[ember laurel]

pretty good

[timber torrent]

Damn... Sadly im a f2p and dont have its beautiful legendary camo but for a f2p its s massive win

[ember laurel]

yes i’d say so too
that too from a mt container

[timber torrent]

And i got it from selling the krupp steyr wt and gambling... Pretty good trade

[ember laurel]

a t7 for a t10 goated mt🤑

[marsh grove]

Hori couldnt pen but Jageroo with HEAT and Cali can

[timber torrent]

Indeed and plus i havent played the steyr since the half of 2025

[ember laurel]

seems like it was your lucky day then

[timber torrent]

Yeah... But i might have exausted my luck for this year getting it 💀

[ember laurel]

worth it for the carro

[wraith depot]

KV3 < Tiger 1

[winged night]

Tiger 1 > all T7s

[keen shore]

Annihilator:
Smasher:

And that is just heavies.

[winged night]

If we dont count these 2 broken vehicles...we will come to the same conclusion

[keen shore]

Tiger I having top 3 WR... from the bottom.. is kind of sad.

[winged night]

Because many players dont know how to use its strenghs properly :I

[keen shore]

Obviously, but there are still better tanks.

On the topic of tier VII, I think Valkyria Chronicle tanks are pretty underrated except Vulcan probably. My personal favorite is Nameless.

[winged night]

I personal favorite on T7 is Tiger 1 😉

[keen shore]

A strong tank indeed, good choice.

[winged night]

Back in the early days before all those fantasy tanks got introduced I liked to play Comet

[thorny mulch]

Forest witch, tiger p, dracula, helsing

[keen shore]

I would not say Forest Witch or Tiger P are better than Tiger I. They trade too much mobility, DPM or both for their armor.

[thorny mulch]

Dpm doesnt matter when you have a 4 shot autoreloader that can deal 960 damage. The forest witch also has incredible armor so it makes sense its slow

[keen shore]

Yeah but you can just rush it and there will be basically nothing it can do except shoot one last time that will make it reload for like a minute with how bad of a traverse it has

[thorny mulch]

No you would just shoot the first shell until you can unload the entire clip. Also in any standard scenario you would be playing close to your team. Bait a shot then poke forward fire 2 shells reload and fall back

[keen shore]

If you would not shoot your clip, why bring it up?

[thorny mulch]

Because eating into your clip kills your dpm obv. In any autoreloader you can just fire a couple of shells and move back into cover then empty the clip when they are low enough. You also have more dps to outtrade the tiger

[winged night]

I disagree

[thorny mulch]

I hope youre not confusing autoloader with autoreloader

[winged night]

Its armor is not incredible

[keen shore]

I am not, I actually had the luck of playing Forest Witch.
@winged night it is, especially against tier 6 and 7.

I did make a couple of blunders like I unloaded a reserve shell on an IS-6 after non-penning for securing a kill and then Defender focused me and since I was in the open with 800 hp I just died to his clip, but overall it is a good first game I think. @thorny mulch

[winged night]

I dont know man. The only threat I see when I play these tiers is Smasher & Annihilator and good players in Tiger 1 😉

[zealous blaze]

What tank is this Forest Witch? Is there that tank in WoT pc EU ?

[keen shore]

It is a halloween tank from a couple years ago. Blitz exclusive, not a thing on PC.

[zealous blaze]

wow is that good tank? It looks so good

[eternal talon]

Guys can you give me tips on how to do good on grom... i got it from the draw and if you ask how i got it its not from the event i sold my vk 45.03 since my instrusive thought forced me too and did 2 for fun and i got the grom for the new tank container...

[zealous blaze]

Grom is Hit and hide tank. It has high alfa, good Camo Not bad armor but you cant trust it, if you appear you will die but it is not Sniper not Brawler. But Vk 45.03 way too easy to play tank than Grom

• Slow turning

[tropic sinew]

I wish they add a new cammo for the china premium tank 116 F3 HT

[fervent briar]

Is this contributing enough?

I used to spam tiger frontline, when lose stopped playing till tomorrow, 3 days later or even next week. I always thought that the lesser you play the higher chances you matched against AIs, meaning 99% win.

[thorny mulch]

Yeah that is the average battle for the witch. Yes youll have issues with the gun at times but its still a very very good tank

[keen shore]

I did not really have issues with the gun, I just did not aim in on that IS-6 well enough. It is 1k above average damage for it so it is pretty good, like a tier VII felice. Now I just need that realistic camo for it.

[thorny mulch]

Its good you didnt get it from the auction last winter. The price went stupid high

[thorny mulch]

I average around this much for the short session i played some time ago. Yeah the dpm definitely affects your dpg but the tank has great clutch potential. My avg damage could use a lot of work but im too tired

[keen shore]

It was like 6k minimum I think.

[thorny mulch]

Hiigh

[supple valve]

My brother is grinding the Japanese medium line. I am wanting to run something that will platoon well with it. What are some tanks that would pair well?

[carmine vigil]

ISU 152 good tonk?

[dim shard]

Well it really depends on the tier don't you think? But generally you should probably go with a well armoured tank that can go medium side so you can cover your bro and help him compensate the japanese tanks' mediocre armour.

[supple valve]

Thank you, he is 7 at the moment he doesnt play as much as me so it would easier for me to match him that vise versa

[rich blade]

depends on what you have in your garage and like to play/perform well with

for tier 7 lights/mediums I can recommend T-34-1 that thing is pretty good, AMX 13 M24 and Leo are pretty fun aswell

AMX 13 75 and Chi Ri are also quite nice autoloaders but harder to play since they dont have any armor

Comet with the HESH gun is also a little gem but you gotta now how to use HESH effectivly

[kindred wren]

I‘d grind the German Leo or US medium line alongside it. You won‘t break any performance record but the playstyles of the lines harmonise quite well while not being completely identical. That should help with being able to play together while not competing for the same positions

[junior pasture]

You could also grind sheridan as it is one of the strongest tier 10 lights currently

[timber torrent]

True.. Or t100lt. Its great for spotting. Or if u want smth with armour get e50m of t62a.

[thorny mulch]

T100 is a great light

[timber torrent]

Arguably the stock vk at tier 8 in the maus line in 2025 was the worst tank for me. Though i finnaly got the mauschen

[tardy turtle]

That isn't actually armor, it's just an illusion

[still harness]

What tank is better for grinding credits. The GSOR or the T77

[rich blade]

You mean the tier 8 TD gsor?

[half plaza]

Should I buy T77 or Chimera For creds grinding? Are they good in Big Boss or at Ramming? Or should I wait for Löwe on the store

[topaz cosmos]

Could we receive a legendary historical skin for the OBJ 252U similar to the PC Defender version? Additionally, it would be great if the tank could be equipped with tungsten shells as well. 🤝😄

[rich blade]

T77 is a very strong tier 8 premium, if you like autoloading heavy tanks, its gonna be very good for credit grinding tho, its good in big boss but not very good at ramming

[agile geyser]

And once you’re reloading the clip, it’s a bit of a wait… i have it, i typically last longer as a 2nd Line Heavy.

I only go 1st line with it when most of the One shots or good players die out

[rich blade]

before buying anything I can recommend to check out gameplay on YT for example, dosnt hurt

[cosmic crown]

anyone else find this the worst tier 8 light? I kinda hate everything about it but especially the gun is bad imo.

[night citrus]

type 62 but more armor

[cosmic crown]

honestly I think its a far worse type 62 but with better armour. I think the type 62 mogs this thing in 1v1, which in fairness most tier 7s would but.

[thorny mulch]

The only thing it has is a pretty nice dps. 300. If it also had adaptive? Man that would be a luxury

[cosmic crown]

well it does seem to low roll most of the time, and has no accuracy and bad pen. bounces on tier 7 lights a lot

even with a turkey shoot youll miss half your shots, the half that does hit will have like half not penning

[thorny mulch]

Well the accuracy isnt that bad and the aim time is fine around 2.6. Yeah i get the pen has issues but its definitely manageable if youre able to slam in side shots or aim for weak points.

[cosmic crown]

nah it bounces tier 7 lights on flat rear armour half the time 😭

[thorny mulch]

U wanna see my luck with another tank with lower pen

[cosmic crown]

thats like everyshot with the wz 132

[thorny mulch]

Unfortunately thats just rng. Just take your time to aim in shots. You have really decent aimtime

[cosmic crown]

wz132 is always though. like even on a turkey shoot it struggles for 2k damage

[thorny mulch]

Dont play for damage

[cosmic crown]

I mean thats easy but not very effecient

[thorny mulch]

Life of a 132 player 😔

[cosmic crown]

thats also true ig, its not effecient to play that vehicle, it is sad since it has a cool skin

[thorny mulch]

Would really love a buff for it. Imo tanks like that should give the devs an idea of how tanks should actually be balanced

[atomic raft]

#add_turbo_for_s.conqueror

[thorny mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[still harness]

Yea

[rich blade]

Yeah then T77 is more profit usually, with the GSOR you often use the premium ammo (HESH) so it’s less credits in the end

But after all credits takes some time, grinding credits in a tank you enjoy is much better then slightly more earnings every game

I would go for T77 tho

[keen shore]

I would go with T77 as well but if you can cope with bad stabilization and having almost half the HP, you can do nasty stuff in GSOR 1008.

[karmic gale]

chat how is the ST-1 bad?

[pure bronze]

when the ST-I hasn't been researched with top modules (aka stock)

[karmic gale]

o so max upgraded its good?

[violet timber]

Not really

It lacks mobility and damage output while not having particularly impressive survivability either

[vocal kelp]

Just got the Jagdtiger from this free chest 🫡

Nice!

[karmic gale]

the amount of unluck i have today is actually insane

[karmic gale]

not only this but for some reason the tiger P is doing horrible today

OMG VK 100.01P is way better than i thought

[blissful cave]

I’m genuinely devastated VK 168 is being moved to tier 9 it’s going to lose all uniqueness

VK 100 and 168 were like the best pair to choose between
Now it’s just “do you want Mäuschen with the turret in the front or back” or Tiger maus
Why have 3 of essentially the same tank all together

Moving T-2020 and E75TS because they were boring being with other tanks that were essentially the same but better (all the tier 8 IS’s and Keiler Löwe) made sense to move them and make them at least a bit more unique

[slow shale]

Guys, which of the tanks should I grind? The E50 M or the WZ121?

Or do you suggest any other line?

[steep jacinth]

japanesse super heavies will make them irrevelant. Type 4 heavy will be added

[paper wraith]

whats the single most op tank in the game, like outmatche sall of its tier
Im thinking some of the halloween tanks like smasher and annihilator but at the same time i dont play all tiers
Keni otsu excluded

[marsh grove]

Overrated

[atomic raft]

#add_turbo_for_s.conqueror

#delete_yamato_harbor_from tier X battles omg

[tulip terrace]

I play the E 50 M and it's a heavy. Bit of angling while covering lower front plate and you become close to invincible

[atomic raft]

Ok

[winged night]

WZ 121 is underrated, pure ❤️

[junior pasture]

Either anni or erich

[thorny mulch]

Erich isnt op

[junior pasture]

Explain how it isnt op

[thorny mulch]

Play it for yourself. A lot of people throwing around the term op not really understanding what truly op means

[junior pasture]

Double shot 500 alpha as a medium with decent armor is pretty OP, ion know whatchu mean…

[thorny mulch]

It sees tier 10s a lot, the gun is derpy, the ammorack is horrendous and massive, and your average blitz player wont perform well in it. All of that still doesn’t deny that its a very strong tank. Op? I think not

[junior pasture]

Blitz average player is a 48%er… but your point is fair, so I won’t really argue.

[blissful cave]

I think blitz is balanced well enough that there is no definitive OP tank
Other than maybe something stupid like the annihilator/smasher and other crap like forest witch against real tier 7’s but I think that’s more of a problem with tier 7

The gap between 7-8 I think is the most unfair powercrept gap between tanks
Tier 5 is, but the real tier 7’s feel more like “tier 6.5” while the Halloween tanks feel like actual tier 7+ T29 too

[viral prism]

STB1 needs buffs trust me devs

[oak abyss]

Erich is 100% OP. 1K clip with two shots in five seconds? It has good armor, good mobility, the gun handling is actually really good considering the alpha, it's a medium. I'm just your average Joe WoTB player, 52% Wingate, 5.1K battles, but this is one of the few tanks that I can consistently get great games with. If you're doing poorly in it, then it's obviously either a skill issue or insanely bad RNG, because this tank is crazy. By the way, I get put in tier 8 and 9 matches WAY more then tier 10,, at least on NA. Even against tier 10s, though, 1K damage is 1K damage, no matter the tier.

Just my two cents, which is probably a dollar now due to inflation.

[viral prism]

@grand cliff @keen jayFirst of all happy that I made you laugh with my question :). 2nd Nice tank, def can pull up some crazy plays. To me tho would be better to make him fully reload bit longer and bit shorter ammo reload since he gets super punished for staying too long in open and its not fv4005 to fully hide before 2nd shot. 3rd and last don't kill for ping

[pulsar tide]

I admire your analysis of the game and how you discuss Blitz topics; there are no words to describe you.

[thorny mulch]

You get tier 8 and 9 way more that tier 10 matches on NA? Interesting. Side note, i am not doing poorly in it. I still dont think its an overpowered vehicle. Tanks like the type 71 early release and the gsor heavy (with 3600 dpm before nerf) are vehicles that deserve the op status. These tanks have armor, flexibility and damage. The Erich just has damage slapped on a medium hull. By all means im not calling the Erich underpowered. Its just a very strong tank.
Yes you have a 1000 dmg clip in the erich but your gun is derpy as hell and your reload is 21s. If you somehow miss one shot or bounce you can be easily punished for it. The armor is okay. But anyone that takes time to aim will always pen you. If they load prammo your turret becomes nothing and you have a large profile. Dont get me started on the ammorack durability.

[tulip canopy]

Why is it that to enrich a tech tree tank at tier 8 like 13k gold when you can buy a tier 8 premium tank for 7500 gold?

[light hamlet]

Do you guys think this is worth pulling for 3k~ for a garauntee? Like is the Skoda T56 good

[junior pasture]

Wym pulling for 3k

[pure bronze]

these draws are not even valid to get a tank

[tulip canopy]

It seems to me like it isn't a fair roll is it? Like the past few I always roll once and get x5 free xp first. this time second I got the x3. I decided way back to never spend on these. It took a lot of my early gold.

[blissful cave]

It’s just a scummier linked bundle disguised as chance based

[tawny isle]

Even calling it a linked bundle is a crime

[kindred wren]

The chances are designed in a way that makes it excessively likely that you get the items in order from lowest value to highest value

The question with these draws is really if at any given step the accumulated gold spent is worth the accumulated goods received (assuming you always get the lowest value item)

[old valve]

(Don't mind me reacting with "😂" all the time; the double tap to react feature does mess with me a bit)

[thorny mulch]

Never tried to complete one before

[queen sonnet]

Guys should i get the T37 or Chaffee?

59-16 or type 58?

[paper wraith]

can someone explain how camo actually works, cause im seeing some different stats and im not at all sure how it works. One screenshot is from the game and the other is from sblitzstars and i kinda dont know how to operate this stuff

[rich blade]

Camo basically reduces the enemy Viewrange, as you can see on blitzkit the more camo the enemy has the further you need to go in his direction in order to spot him

the diffrent camo values are pretty self explanatory while stationary tanks have their most camo, it gets reduced when you start moving, unlessy you are a light tank on this case both values are identical, know if you shot, you camo drops for a second to a pretty low value

Fire also reduces your camo, but thats kinda niche and often not noticeable

[paper wraith]

okay, so say the enemy rhm has 300m view range and i have 60% camo, he can only spot me from 120m? why are the values in blitzkit and wotb different?

[rich blade]

WoTb often uses base values, while blitzkit uses often crew and equipment bonus if you have those activated, but values are you talking exactly about that are diffrent?

[paper wraith]

well wotb says 65% for example whiole blitzkit says 28.27. That is a difference far toob ig to be caused by crew and stuff like that. Unless concealment and camo are somehow different?

[rich blade]

on what tank

[paper wraith]

fv4005

[rich blade]

oh yeah I see, actually Idk why that is

but wotb numbers seem kinda inflated

[paper wraith]

or concealment isnt the same as camoflauge which i guess could be possible, i do niot know tho

[timber torrent]

Can someone hook me up with what equipment i should use on maus?

[old valve]

Mine looks like this

[marsh grove]

Maus has sandbags?

[old valve]

Yes

[marsh grove]

holy chonk 😭

[old valve]

I still remember the time when the HP were buffed initially

3k was crazy back then >_<

[sonic girder]

guys

116-f3 vs Kravagn which better? And should i buy 116-f3?

[vast plume]

Please name the most noob friendly Tier 10 TD please.

[sonic girder]

should i buy 116-f3 guys . I already have kra

[oak abyss]

I know, for some reason the MM loves me. With other T9s, I only get into Tier 10 matches. Not with the EK1, though. Also, I agree with everything you said, especially the armor, but I still think it's really OP. Just from personal experience, I don't know what the actual averages are.

[oak abyss]

Minotauro, and it's not even close.

[vast plume]

Thank you!!!!

[thorny mulch]

🤝 agree to disagree

[feral junco]

Got dis tank is it cool

[blissful cave]

Yeees

[feral junco]

[blissful cave]

It is a cool tank it’s a real thing Germany made where they disguised some Panthers as American M10 tanks

It didn’t work that well though because it’s pretty hard to disguise a german tank when there’s some pretty huge giveaways like the wheels

I like Panther M10 it was one of my first premiums

They really should give Panther M10 a legendary camo that makes it look like an American tank being dark green and have US markings on it it’d be such a unique idea

[atomic raft]

#add_turbo_for_s.conqueror
#delete_yamato_harbor_from tier X battles omg

[thorny mulch]

2nd opinion is valid

[tulip canopy]

We call it war crimes because it in fact was one. lol

[vast plume]

Can you please name the worst tier 8 tanks. Especially tech tree tanks but feel free to mention the premium and collectors as well. I asked this before and I lost the list. Im so mad.

[blissful cave]

T95E2 for sure

[junior pasture]

Quetzal is one of the best tanks in the game currently

[shell oar]

Someone help me, the new event isn't showing up for me, it's been three days already.

[queen sonnet]

Hey guys whats the real difference between damage and penetration? Which is generally better to prioritize? I'm asking because of cannons that do slightly less damage but significantly increase penetration..

[thorny mulch]

Penetration is how much hp you shave off a tank. Damage tells you how reliably you can break through armor

[queen sonnet]

Got it, thnks mate

[thorny mulch]

Wait wait wait! i was joking.

[pure bronze]

59-Patton and T95E2 likely worst t8s

[junior pasture]

no youre not, stop trying to fool him

[thorny mulch]

Damage is how much hp you shave off of a tank. Penetration is how much armor you can break through or penetrate. If you are moving up tiers youll see a steady increase in damage and penetration. For the tanks specifically, penetration and damage dont completely describe how well a tank can perform. In other words, it really isnt right to prioritize one or the other based on themselves since it varies depending on tank class and other factors. If you can try and prioritize both as well as take other tank parameters into account youll be able to enjoy playing the vehicle in mind.

[junior pasture]

You can’t prioritize maximizing damage, although the higher your pen, the less time you waste aiming, reloading after missing shells due to armor, and less time you expose your tank in the open. I’d say prioritizing your pen is best way to go.

[thorny mulch]

It also largely depends on the playstyle and other tank characteristics.
It also goes back to rammer or calibrated. For some vehicles rammer works well if you play it to the vehicles strengths.
But in @queen sonnet case, if you find a cannon that does slightly less damage but much higher pen it would be better to pick that.

[junior pasture]

As @thorny mulch said, play your tank to its strengths. If it has low dpm, giving it rammer will benefit the tank. On the other end, give a tank cali if it needs the pen.

[thorny mulch]

^

[fallen zinc]

I have successfully designed a tank destroyer with both soviet and German elements in it.

I call it the WT-13,0 PM auf Pz IV

[split siren]

Isn't annihilator too powerful

Did you design it yourself

What gun does it have?

[fallen zinc]

I used the blitzkit mixer feature

It uses the gun of the su 130 PM

[blissful cave]

I tried out the feature and this is cool I made up my own unique combination it’s a Kranvagn hull and a Centurion turret I bet WG would never come up with this one

[fringe shell]

Strv k

[blissful cave]

yeah ik that’s the joke

Lmao thank you for telling me this feature exists because now I can make abominations

Biblically accurate MBT-B

[timber torrent]

The black bulldog (the german one) and please dont take this out of context (M41 90mm)

[hollow flume]

I've been blessed by WG

[thorny mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/computer-throw-ron-swanson-hate-fml-gif-11474864

[split siren]

You know what? Rear mounted tiger (p)

@blissful cave that's gonna blow its turret if it shoots and what does this look like a tier 1 chassis

[thorny mulch]

Im only angry because i dont have the v4 yet

[split siren]

I think it can withstand a 183 mm

[queen sonnet]

@thorny mulch @junior pasture thanks a lot guys

[lucid quest]

is the obj.263 good?I've been looking to get it

[zenith shadow]

And how would panther hull tiger turret look like?

[bronze linden]

Is this worth it?

[blissful cave]

If you want both tanks then yea
Normally they’re 7500 each no camo

[blissful cave]

Lore accurate MBT-B or the abomination?

[split siren]

The t 26 chassis hybrid@blissful cave

[blissful cave]

Lmao the abomination
MS-1 hull, Type 5 turret, Grille gun

Type 5 heavy turret would just crush the hull before it can even do anything

[blissful cave]

Looks very reasonable

[zenith shadow]

looks very good

[blissful cave]

Tiger 1.5

[split siren]

@blissful cave nah the turret would be sent flying it's even worse than high calibre

@blissful cave what gun does it have though

[steel lark]

@plucky summit did the A46 Different get a acceleration and top speed nerf?

[blissful cave]

When given the tools you may try to recreate what you wish for most

[rotund gull]

bigger BT-42 brother

[thorny mulch]

[plucky summit]

No idea

[steel lark]

You're no longer a moderator?

[junior pasture]

Guys new update, they changed the name into FV215b (13), slapped a 13mm 150 shell autoloader with 10 alpha. It has intraclip of 0.01s, therefore total dump time of 1.5sec of 1500 damage. It has mediocre pen values however, 220/280/0.01.

[plucky summit]

Resigned

[steel lark]

Well I don't blame you for doing so. There's one person on that team who should be forced out and banned but I'm not a snitch so you won't get a name from me.

[plucky summit]

Just consider all the people who could have worn their patience down, whoever they may be

[thorny smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-6892218099699146160

[blissful cave]

close enough, welcome to blitz M60A2

[junior pasture]

Concept M55160

[blissful cave]

You can also make T95 Test rig with the same setup but with a T95E6 hull

[paper wraith]

Anyone up to explain how camo works in this game, and what exactly is the concealment vs camo value for say the fv4005, where concealment is listed as 60 but blitzstars says camo still is 28? And what do bushes change in numerical values

[brazen vapor]

e100 op

[sullen abyss]

yep

[woven rune]

Hello, to clarify my suggestion: I am not asking only for Tier VIII. I would like an optional legacy matchmaking mode with a wider tier spread across multiple tiers in general, for example Tier VIII vs VI/VII/IX, Tier IX vs VII/VIII/X, and similar logic for the other tiers where applicable. This should be an optional mode or separate queue, not a replacement for the current matchmaking.

[blissful cave]

+2 -2 matchmaking would not be fair at all

Imagine being like a Chaffee or something and having to go up against a KV-5, or a caliban, or a T77 or even just pushing light side and coming across a T49
Or like imagine playing KV-2, you already can’t pen any tier 7 heavy now what are you going to do against even tier 8 mediums

Plus the average tier 6 HP is like what? 900-1000? Youd get insta clipped by like almost every tier 8 autoloader

[exotic fog]

He's not even talking about +-2 but +-3.

[violet timber]

no he's talkin about +-2

[exotic fog]

Maybe I read it too fast ...

But I still think it is dead horse.

[blissful cave]

Maybe it’s fairer in wot pc with the teams of 15 tanks and bigger maps? I haven’t played pc so idk
But it’d be completely unfair in this game

[pliant path]

Camo ratings are additive. For example, the FV4005 has a base still camo rating of 20. Adding a camo (such as Henhouse) will increase the rating by 3%. If you have the Camoflage crew skill at level 7 an additional 21% of the base rating is added.

Websites such as BlitzStarz and BlitzKit can show the final stats with different crew skills, consumables, etc. The default settings are different for each website, but you should get the same results if you compare them with the same settings.

Bushes also add a certain amount to the camo rating. Some years ago Frodo Nilfinger tested each bush and downed tree in every map and posted his results on the EU forum. Among other things he discovered that bushes in different maps had slightly different camo values. Unfortunately, that post was lost when the forum's closed (and the values may have been changed when maps were reworked).

I believe that Acrisis may have saved a copy on a different server and if you are interested dm me. I may be to find it and dm it to you.

[paper wraith]

So total camo value = base + (base * concealment)? and total camo value reduces the distance from which tanks can spot you, so 20% camo value makes tanks with 250m range spot you only from 200m?

[pliant path]

Atm I don't recall the formula for the view range reduction but that's the idea. BlitzKit has illustration of the result for camo values of up to 50%, which makes it easier.

You might also find this support website article helpful: https://wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/article/15414/

[brisk dust]

wich tier 10 colector or premium should i buy (i have 15000 gold)

[mental perch]

121b

[brisk dust]

ok

[agile geyser]

I find it hilarious that putting a barn on a tank increases the camo stats

[lean spruce]

T95e6 and kpz50t are solid picks

[brisk dust]

ok

[gritty gale]

We'll think it's just a barn, not a big gun hiding inside xD

[pliant path]

Who said that Wargaming doesn't have a sense of humor? 😉 😅

[gritty gale]

Also let's not forget mentioning that it's become a reference 2 our lovely game. it was my favourite Christmas ornament on Christmas event, I miss it, I searched my whole country 2 find an ornament like it but I didn't find.

[junior pasture]

116 f3 is another one its in shops currently

[iron wyvern]

Is the wtauf pze100 gonna be available at xmas or any time sooner?

[thorny mulch]

bzt probably coming out before it gets sold again

[fringe shell]

<@&481447501690568709> @hasty tartan is spamming this message in everychanne;

[vocal kelp]

Got the object 268/4 from a $10 pull from some chests, opinions?

I’m more of a tier 6-8 player, this is tier 10 lol

[normal forge]

T10 for a tenner is fine but the v4 is a very bad tank

[vocal kelp]

What about the bisonte C45? Be honest lmao did I get a bad pull

[normal forge]

Bisonte is really good, has been buffed and given away for free

But yes, the 268/4 is a bad pull but again, for ten dollars its fine I wanna say

[vocal kelp]

For free? Damn well thanks, I don’t normally spend on bundles like that but my victory streak got to me lol

[normal forge]

Enjoy your bisonte :)

[vocal kelp]

So far I’m enjoying it, I love the “extra” shell

[normal forge]

Glad to hear

[sonic girder]

Should i do this guys?

or waiting for carro 45t sell? im love playing Italy tank

[half plaza]

Is the Stridsvagn K worth it to buy on Black Friday? Since it's one of the best credits grinding in my opinion (only in apac).

[normal forge]

No strv k is terrible

[elfin crypt]

Good day, Wargaming company. I wanted to ask when you can add wheeled, double-barreled tanks and artillery to the game? For example, Lesta Games in "Tanks Blitz" is already testing the ST-II line, and for example, in a game called "Tank Front", there is literally World of Tanks, which you have for PC, but 5 developers ported it to mobile! They have wheeled vehicles, ST-II, and artillery (which is also playable!) + also 15v15 battles on maps that are no bigger than those you have in World of Tanks Blitz! So it turns out that 5 people work more efficiently than a whole giant company? I don't want to offend you, but in my opinion, Tank Front is better in some aspects than World of Tanks Blitz, although they piled the branches into a heap because in the USSR branches there are USSR and Chinese tanks, in the Germans there are Germans and Italians, and in the USA there are Americans, British, and French. In terms of branches, yours are better, but I ask you please add artillery, wheeled and double-barreled tanks.

[wraith depot]

NO. Whole message. No

We dont need arty, we dont need wheeled tanks or double barrels. We already have 2 shot autoloaders.

The reason i quit wot completely in 2018 and increased my wotb activity was arty.

[elfin crypt]

I understand that many people left PC tanks because of the artillery balance, but I am talking about a different approach. In Tank Front, artillery is balanced differently and doesn't feel toxic. Regarding double-barreled tanks — they are already in World of Tanks PC, and they have even appeared in the 'Tanks Blitz' client (Lesta). My point is that a small team of 5 people is pushing boundaries and adding variety, while Blitz feels like it's standing still.

• if they don't add art then it's okay, I just want to see the double-barreled guns and the wheeled vehicles

[normal forge]

uh well, maybe it feels like that because devs are working on porting wotb on a different engine which most of them are unfamiliar with, saying "mimi lesta is adding double barrel tanks" doesnt help because they are not paying attention to balance whatsoever and add whatever they feel like adding, usually with bad implementations, like their MoE

[elfin crypt]

I agree that Lesta’s balance might not be perfect, but Blitz isn't exactly flawless either. I’m not demanding that developers add these tanks and mechanics right this second, but I hope they take notes for future updates. Maybe along with the 'Reforged' engine update, we will finally see double-barrels and wheeled vehicles implemented with the quality Wargaming is known for.

[normal forge]

pretty sure we will never see wheeled vehicles, for the better, I must add

[elfin crypt]

and as for double-barreled guns, I've already figured out how to make double and single shots work. If you need a single shot, you press the shot button like on regular tanks, if you need to fire a double, you hold the shot button and the guns, like in the PC client, are first aimed at the target and then fired a double

[normal forge]

temon writing for 20mins

[elfin crypt]

As for the wheelmen, you shouldn't underestimate Wargaming. Maybe they don't always do everything right, maybe something is wrong somewhere (for example, with the balance in terms of victory percentage), but they try their best. As far as I know, they have at least 4 projects and from all the projects they receive at least 1000 messages every day. Although they have a large campaign, they can't keep up everywhere and balance and add something new and read all the comments.

[winged night]

We dont need Arty man. Everyone hates Arty. Blitz is better without Arty.

Double Barreled Tanks might be an interesting mechanic but just imagine playing against them. I think we dont want additional heavies with ultra high trading potencial. We already have 2 shot autoloaders.

Wheeled tanks might be an interesting topic. I think we all can agree that a major issue of these tanks is beeing able to move while beeing "tracked". Balancing this issue shouldnt be a problem. I think they have potencial to be fun and balanced.🤷‍♂️

[main pebble]

artillery isnt balanced. Thats all

[winged night]

+1

[elfin crypt]

Well, as for the double-barreled guns, for balance, I think I'll do what the developers did with the fighter (air conditioner). If one team has it, then the other team should have the same tank.

[main pebble]

this is different worlds

1. game with art and without
2. just game with any other imba like Double bar tank/
   Smasher VII
   Destroyer VII
   Clip size tanks like K91 and Thorn

[winged night]

Its not about this. Just imagine more Tanks with high alpha like JpzE100 & 183. Losing half or more HP by one hit is just rediculuos.

[elfin crypt]

Regarding artillery, I'm not saying I want to see it in the game. I agree with everyone that getting a suitcase across the entire map in half your face is unpleasant. Therefore, regarding art, I agree with you, you can even vote for art as a new class of equipment.

[main pebble]

u forgot ROCKETS haha

[main pebble]

7vs7 like 10vs10 not needs arts no slots

[elfin crypt]

I repeat, I agree with you about the artillery, so we can drop that topic since I'm not a big fan of it either. But regarding 15vs15 — I think it could be added as a new separate mode. What do you think? It would feel like World of Tanks back in 2014, when everyone was constantly moving, there was no 'camping' or 'standing still', and we had these epic, full-scale battles.

Also, I have some ideas for new modes that could breathe life into the game:

Endless Battle (Farm Mode): Standard battles but with a 5-second respawn. It would be a great way to farm XP and credits without the frustration of being sent back to the garage early.

Return of the Leviathan: But on a larger scale! Bring back mega-bosses like the Landkreuzer P.1000 Ratte, or even fan-favorites like the KV-44 or KV-54. This would attract a huge audience of 'mega-tank' fans and boost the online numbers significantly.

Base Defense (PvE): Defending against waves of bots. In this mode, tanks of all tiers (from 1 to 10) could fight in the same battle. It’s pure fun and chaos.

By the way, that's where I came up with the idea of ​​bringing back the Leviathan mode and new bosses.

[wraith depot]

Stop

[elfin crypt]

If you have any thoughts, I'll listen and if I need to explain my ideas.and I don't write anymore okay whatever you say (I just have a problem that I can't stop sometimes)

[wraith depot]

I hope your ideas get ignored by wg.

[main pebble]

wg creates neuro arts
wg cant even add new reskin in Batlle pass like Cyborg, Bull, Explorer etc
wg cant even keep stability with 7vs7 what about 15vs15
wg cant add new maps in how years?
are u sure about good workers in wg?

[elfin crypt]

I’m not demanding that WG adds this, I’m just sharing ideas. That was pretty rude of you, as I’m trying to find common ground, not enemies. I want to help developers improve the game. Many 'old' players like me (who remember the early years like 2012) might want a rematch against the Leviathan if they failed back then. You don't know what Wargaming might think. Even though I sometimes get frustrated with the balance, deep down I only want the best for the devs and the game.

[elfin crypt]

I don't know what kind of workers they are, and honestly, neither do you. Only the people trying to please over a million players every day truly know the pressure. Plus, they are clearly focused on the Reforged update right now. It makes sense that they might skip some unique Battle Pass reskins because the engine update is a much higher priority. @Mister Perfect can probably confirm that big updates like this take most of the dev's time.

[warm lance]

should i run enhanced armour on the is4

[carmine vigil]

And for 60tp/vk90p

[winged night]

and Maus

[blissful cave]

Do you run enhanced armor on Type 5 Heavy too? I do but sometimes feel like my armor is useless because people just go for the cupola anyway

[thorny mulch]

I run enhanced on the type 5 to encourage people to use gold

[thorny mulch]

No need to

[steady jackal]

cs-53 is very low cortisol 👍🏼

[plucky summit]

The point isn’t necessarily to block shells with enhanced armor. Even when you don’t, if an enemy EVER loads gold BECAUSE you have enhanced armor, then you’re already on track to benefit more HP than Improved Assembly.

Damage reduction is more effective HP

[queen sonnet]

the AMX 12 t’s gun depression is terrible omg im going nuts

[blissful cave]

COMRES would be a really cool tier 7/8 premium

Basically just Comet with a Tornvagn turret

[thorny smelt]

Why does it look like ELC EVEN 90 on steroids?

[timber torrent]

Opinions on the AC-10 Atlas?

[brazen vapor]

hmm will the kv-6 behemoth fan tank be a cool premium or collectors?

[valid gale]

Nope

[sand prawn]

why is rating so empty

been waiting for 1m

[light hamlet]

I got FV215b and Projet Murat what do you guys think I should grind ngl should I get the french Lt or some TD I do have some premium Chinese td though

[dusky ingot]

vickers light fr

[orchid trellis]

is the is-4 ammo rack vulnerable?

[wraith depot]

No

[cerulean delta]

Is it good to use the single-shot cannon of the 116f3?

[junior pasture]

Is the T54E2 any good?

[blissful cave]

Yees

[junior pasture]

should i pick it up for 7500 gold? I only have 8.6k. I can get more, im js kinda stuck between 2 sides

[hot reef]

e2 a top 5 premium / collector at tier 8

[potent owl]

which gun do you guys think is better on the 116 f3?

[pure bronze]

t54e2 is all round nice in every department it offers, but it plays like a generic t8 heavy so.It’s pretty fun in Mad Games too, having Octane Fuel ability aka extreme speed boost to ram other tanks

[blissful cave]

3 shot gun it’s not even a question

[junior pasture]

Got it, thanks. I’m gonna pick it up in 10 days so I can build up some gold wealth before burningmost of it again

[timber torrent]

What yall think about ac atlas burst mag

[normal forge]

Depends. For pubs the single shot is simply more fun, 3 shot feels like a reloading simulator. For tournaments the 3 shot clears

[pallid drift]

Please M60 for sale in the store for gold ‼️

[tulip canopy]

Why did it kill me to drive onto a amx 50100 in a bulldog.

[vague parrot]

Could've slap a Browning on top

[woven raven]

Lupus and Hafen in the Shop for buy

[slow shale]

Why is it such a pain to grind a tech tree, the tank has bad accuracy, bad depression, bad mobility and the armour is unreliable, how am I supposed to fight against premium tanks that have full modules equipped.

[winged night]

🫡

[slow shale]

I'm literally getting penned by everyone

[winged night]

I know how you feel bro

[queen sonnet]

59-16 depression is terrible too

[slow shale]

Ok, what do u mean by that??

[normal forge]

Just like my depression

[blissful cave]

Same

[queen sonnet]

The angle you can aim up and down

[slow shale]

I know but 59-16?

[queen sonnet]

Tier VI to wz132-1

[pure bronze]

gimmick of Chinese tanks having -5 gun depression

[queen sonnet]

Yeah terrible

[blissful cave]

Soviet/chinese tank designers haven’t yet discovered the ability that the gun can go down too

[slow shale]

Why is it so hard to buff some Tanks, like WG has some serious issues with Rebalancing tanks.

I'm barely doing 1k dmg with this gun

[sullen abyss]

If you aren’t grinding in modes already I highly encourage to do so

You won’t affect your stats + modes with multiple lives such as big boss and uprising will help you significantly reduce the number of battles you have to play a tech tree tank

[slow shale]

Nah, I can endure it and ima try doing the impossible.

I'm so close

[sullen abyss]

Going old school I see, nice

Good luck and hope ur grind ends quickly

[slow shale]

I mean my first Tech tree was IS4 when I started and if I could endure that then I can also endure this.

[sullen abyss]

Awesome

[slow shale]

Do you really camp in your E100 with no camo??

[sullen abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gggutya-gif-10882403282712378920

[winter bane]

For me chinese tech tree except td their other lines are quite hard to play

[kind condor]

WZ light tank and BZ 75 are very good. I enjoy it a lot lel

[blissful cave]

Lmaooo I still remember this S tier screenshot

(Context I said T110E3’s camo looks like it’s perfect to take the tank out camping) 🏕️

[sullen abyss]

😂

[young fox]

https://tenor.com/view/wotb-e100-gif-11299054191763982091

[blissful cave]

@sullen abyss this you?

[sullen abyss]

I am one of many after all

[winter bane]

Oh dam, i forgot there’s bz line😅

[eager umbra]

the strv 42 needs a slight speed buff

[fervent briar]

Is this for real???

[violet timber]

Yes

[winter bane]

Yes

[blissful cave]

Sale as in how much you get if you sell the tank
Not how much it costs to buy in the shop
(Costs 15k to get it)

[fossil cosmos]

ATAC is a good example of a tank that should be removed

[normal forge]

Why

[queen sonnet]

Guys what DT line do you recommend the most? Like the best one on average?

[pulsar grove]

the line with isu 152 or jagpanzer e100

[queen sonnet]

👌🏻

[winged night]

268 is like never ending meta 😂

There are many other decend TDs (dont grind 183 because its cringe)

[cosmic gust]

Hello there.
What the best choice Between Atlas and Type 71 in current meta ?
Im 62% / 2700 Average dmg player

[rich blade]

type is very slow, and the armor isnt worth much because of calibrated shells being so strong, the type himself also pens everything because premium AP ammo and only low alpha loss (similar to other Japanese tanks)

Atlas is much more fun and better in my opinions, type is just way too slow and the armor dosnt rly work anymore

[cosmic gust]

Ok thank you for your analysis i will follow your advice and try Atlas 🙏

[winter bane]

For me autoloader in ht is something weird or hard to play😅(or its jst i skill issue)

So i actually prefer type 71

[quaint pebble]

Please Tell me exactly what the reason they made tiger-maus 11 ton heavier than mäuschën and 60ton heavier than tiger maus pc version?....Please give a real reason. Not such a stupid conversation

[junior pasture]

Use Atlas with its autoloader cannon when you get it. Put supercharger for equipment and you should be able to consistently hit 5 shells with it. If you clip enemies with the whole clip I think it is 700ish damage, I might be wrong tho.

[cosmic gust]

The aim sucks at Autoloader gun apparently , vs heavies its useless especially when time comes to hit tiny weak spots 🤔

Lot of good players prefer the single shot

[junior pasture]

The blitz nation tree’s main selling point is that the autoloading guns are better than the single shots, with the autoloading gun becoming better than the cyclic at tier 9. The gun offers better dpm and damage when used correctly, and in general is just a scarier gun.

[cosmic gust]

I will try both and will let u know.🫡

[junior pasture]

[harsh elm]

the autoloader is near useless at medium to long range unless you can see a big chunk of them

[grave heart]

this thing when, i just opened Pinterest and this show up, thought it looks cool, anybody know what tank is this?

[violet timber]

made up design

[blissful cave]

Looks like a what if if the Soviets copied the maus

[rotund gull]

https://tanks.gg/v14100ru/tank/tet-100 WG has the Model show last year in a trailer but was never released but on Lestas Mir tankov

is not 1:1 but looks like

[modern linden]

Hey. i wanted to ask you guys how rare is the KV-220 Beta-test or kv-220 T? i never see it other than myself in eu

[grave heart]

the stats doesn't looks good to me, but yea it kinda looks alike

@blissful cave the tracks are so tall lmao

[normal forge]

rare

[karmic gale]

yo wargaming can we get the T-28 in tier 4? i want to destroy the AC wedge

[old valve]

[karmic gale]

how do you get it

[old valve]

It's available as a Tier 4 tank in some battle passes and was also available in an event a long time ago.

[normal forge]

Well and techtree pre 5.5

[old valve]

Yes, that also

[keen shore]

@upper dirge if this is Type 4, where is its frontal hull sloped plate along with its casemate secondary gun?

[upper dirge]

Japan mounted the turret onto a bunker, after failing to get enough metal to finish the project

I never said that was the entirey of the Type 4 Heavy, just said this was proof that it was planned and existed

[keen shore]

Have you considered that this is just a naval gun that japan put on a bunker from one of their ships?

[upper dirge]

No, because I dont need to consider that. They found the treads for the Type 4 Heavy. It also had a gun incredibly similar to a naval gun.

[keen shore]

You know, the much more plausible explanation given the we documented Washington treaty that made IJN scrap a lot of warships that were over its tonnage limit and thus left them with some spare guns? Rather than a tank so big that it would be impossible even for the Red Army to overlook. I mean, they managed to ship two halves of Maus all the way to Moscow.

[keen shore]

No. They found tracks and roadhweels of O-I. Not a Type 4.

[upper dirge]

track, not roadwheel. And WW2 Japanese naval guns look completely different from that

[keen shore]

You should not trust AI. Also, it is because it is a coastal mount
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_45_15_cm_cannon

And even then, they only found a track. Just because WG used the same track model does not mean it is a real tank.

[upper dirge]

You cannot prove something to someone who doesn't want their mind to be changed.

[thorny mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-walk-away-weirdo-touch-gif-26494423

[normal forge]

..but your whole argument is based off of an AI summary?

[upper dirge]

No.

[keen shore]

Then what is it based on? Can you give me some documents on Type 4 or Type 5? Sources that mention these projects being developed or built?

[upper dirge]

It is based more off the photo evidence of a turret, the physical evidence of a track link that we know was going to be used on the tank.

[upper dirge]

When japan started losing land, they started burning everything. There are almost no surviving instances of this. There are the two photo's left

Type 5 was intended to be built, and refined. They scrapped the project before the Type 4 was even finished, and the Type 5 was never put into blueprints. All we know is the name

[keen shore]

You cannot scrap a fricking 200 tonn heavy tank when you are losing ground and are retreating. The germans tried. The Maus still was assembled back together.

And you do not start building a tank with a turret. It is not how it works.

[upper dirge]

150 ton, and it was only around 25 ton's, since they only had the turret?

The turret and chassis were built in two separate places. That image with the soldiers in front of it, those are Soviet soldiers btw

[keen shore]

This has got to be the most elaborate ragebait of this year.

I give up, he refuses any logic and common sense and trusts AI summaries. It was pointless from the start.

Consider the following: Mausturm was 50 tonns, and this would have a bigger gun than Maus. There is no way it would be lighter.

[upper dirge]

Well, your common sense isn't very common. none of it makes sense to me. and of course I trust AI, it is in almost verything nowadays, and to not trust it would be like not trusting the world.

[keen shore]

The germans built a super heavy tank. It was retrieved by the soviets, examined and put in a museum.
The japanese built a super heavy tank, soviets found a turret and did not bother documenting it, and the hull weighing 125 tonns just vanished according to you???

[upper dirge]

The hull, on the other side of manchuria, was scrapped and repurposed into the navy. The soviet soldiers did document it, as shown by the damn image from earlier. Which has soviet soldiers in it btw

[keen shore]

To give more credit to germans. There were up to 10-20 hulls of Maus tanks at a different degree of completion by 1945. Yeah, they could have had multiple platoons of Maus tanks...

[normal forge]

What am I even reading

[valid gale]

Isn’t this the O-I track

[keen shore]

A single image as opposed to an extensive fire trial programm and a place in a museum.. almost as if they was not a tank turret...
Also, there were no ship building facilities in Manjuria last I checked?

[keen shore]

It is.

[marsh grove]

Yes

[upper dirge]

doesn't mean the materials cant be moved? The project was started being scrapped in 1944, the invasion wasn't till 1945

[valid gale]

If anything there may have been “plans” for the type 4/5 and the image shows construction similarity to the later chi-to and chi-ri but the dating of 1944 is dubious considering Japan was suffering catastrophic defeats already and the dispute of the IJN and IJA was severely affecting production output, further japans tank technology was lacking and heavy vehicles was not suitable for terrain they would be fighting on soon enough

Further worth to mention the chi-ri and chi-to share the same number designations

[marsh grove]

whats the main thing about this discussion again, debating whether Type 4 H existed or not?
Im a bit slow behind

[upper dirge]

yea. Thats about it

[marsh grove]

Pretty sure the only true JP superheavy that actually existed was the O-I, nothing else

[upper dirge]

Yes, then they tried to build the type 4 but gave up

[keen shore]

@upper dirge where have you found this image? I can only trace it to polish wikipedia page which lists it as own work, and also claims this is a Type 4 turret too.

[upper dirge]

thats because it is a type 4 turret

[valid gale]

On the image

[upper dirge]

And never forget to look at reddit, they find all sorts of stuff you won't find anywhere else. Reddit is great for finding pictures.

[upper dirge]

This only says they couldn't use naval guns in the army. never said they couldn't use army guns in the navy.

[valid gale]

Naval guns are not the same as land guns, US took the whole war developing the 90mm and 76mm guns despite having bigger naval guns for over a decade already

That and last ditch improvisations

[upper dirge]

yeah. that doesn;t mean you couldnt use them as such though.

[keen shore]

There is this whole issue of tanks having to be way lighter than ships...

[keen shore]

Say you know nothing about WW2 imperial japan without saying you know nothing about WW2 imperial japan...

[blissful cave]

There is this but the source isn’t really the most credible source, if i remember it’s some sort of Soviet documentation of Japanese tanks

[marsh grove]

Only in blueprints and sketches*

But yeah most of them were documented by soviets

[blissful cave]

Is this about if type 5 was built or type 5 being real?

[keen shore]

It is a soviet book documenting ways to cool an engine and it has got to be absolutely soviet way to just mention a 200 tonn japanese heavy tank and not elaborate on it anywhere else.

[keen shore]

It is about type 4 and 5 being real.

[blissful cave]

It’s one of those tanks I’m leaning towards real concept but I can’t say for sure

But I would love to know more about it because it’s such a cool tank

[marsh grove]

Call luigi for help

Yeah so turns out i obviously cannot read this

Help yourself to translating it

[marsh grove]

Also about this one

[karmic gale]

OMG I GOT 2 ACES TODAY

[south garden]

2000 dmg in tier V? Thats pretty good

[karmic gale]

thanks ive gotten 4000+ damage in 2 tier 6s

[karmic gale]

the only 2 things that are bad about the tier 5 SDP are 1 only 600hp and 2 its really inaccurate

[blissful cave]

Yeah tier 5 TD’s are really going up against tier 6’s with 1000-1200 HP

Which a ~500 HP difference between tiers is normal but for tier 5/6 specifically it’s insane because it is double what you have
Doesn’t matter as much when you’re a 2000 HP tank going up against a 2500 one

[nocturne grove]

Its a design that was a part of the KV-4 project (they had a competition where like a dozen designers submitted various designs) this particuliar one was submitted by Mikhailov

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/kv-4_mikhailov

[junior pasture]

he has bot mm if i rmbr correctly

[junior pasture]

COOLING SYSTEMS OF JAPANESE HEAVY TANK PROJECTS
The Type "2604" tank has two 12-cylinder liquid-cooled carburetor engines of BMW design. The cooling system includes three sections of tubular water radiators for each engine and one section of an oil radiator, all blown by two centrifugal intake fans driven by a belt from the main gearbox. Air is drawn in through grilles located over the center of the engine compartment, passes through the radiator sections located in a pressurized casing, blows over the engine, and is exhausted through a grille at the rear of the tank. To ensure repair and maintenance of the engines, any of the radiator sections can be flipped upward when the engine compartment roof is removed.

Advantages of the layout: A high degree of protection for the power plant from incendiary liquids.
Disadvantage: Inefficient use of internal volume.

The Type "2605" tank mockup differs in layout from the Type "2604" by having an engine compartment with 35% less volume, while retaining the same type of power plant. This led to a very cramped layout for the cooling system. The radiator block of four sections is shifted to the rear and, together with separate oil radiators, is blown by a common multi-blade axial fan, which is driven from the main gearbox by a propeller shaft passing between the engines. Air is drawn in through vertical louvers of the engine compartment... [text cuts off].

I think this proves that the Type 2604 and 2605 (type 4 and type 5) were real tanks, just very little actual documentation on their existence. WarGaming's representation may not be the most accurate but these tanks were most likely real, as this is from an actual Soviet military document. @keen shore @upper dirge

[upper dirge]

Oh thank you so much for finding this. You don't understand how long i searched

[nocturne grove]

"Heres the second page

compartment, passes through vertical radiators, and is released behind the tank. If the fan breaks, the air will be partially circulated with exhaust fumes, achieved by a nozzle collector on each engine.

Advantages of this design include an efficient use of the space available, and the simplicity of design and adjustment of the large (950 mm diameter) fan. Disadvantages include a lack of air flow over the engine components, leading to overheating of the generator and main reductor, and a small amount of radiator sections (only 4).

The wooden O-I model uses a liquid cooled Daimler-Benz 12-cylinder diesel engine instead of two BMW gasoline engines. The model has two six-section radiators with an air flow achieved by exhaust fumes. The air is gathered by the engine compartment cover. An auxiliary fan helps guides airflow over the engine and helps in clearing out the fighting compartment, driven by the fuel pump motor.

Advantages of this layout include simplicity of design and good ventilation of the tank turret, but only while the engine is running. A disadvantage of this layout is that service of the engine requires removing the airtight radiator sections." https://www.tankarchives.com/2014/04/japanese-heavy-tanks.html?m=1

[junior pasture]

Although the actual existence of both heavies do seem quite skeptical for me, as this is the only document that serves as a primary source that proves their existence. I definitely think they could've gotten rid of a lot of evidence, as this wasn't the same situation as the Maus, where they had to scrap it in less than a month where the Japanese had about a year to do so.

I also recently found out that many tier X American tanks are actually real, such as the E5, Concept 1B, and E4.

[nocturne grove]

Yeah theres a big issue with Japaneese documents from ww 2 being destroyed so we cant really be sure

[quick elk]

Anyone tried the obj452k? How is it compare to is8?

[violet timber]

E4 isn’t actually real, E5 was a real design though

[junior pasture]

E4 was real, there is documented proof

[nocturne grove]

Yeah its real

[violet timber]

E4 wasn’t, the E3 and E5 were

[junior pasture]

this was the documentation of the t110 design no. 5

[nocturne grove]

wargaming changed the design a bit though

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/t110/

[junior pasture]

e3 is the fake casemate tank destroyer.

[violet timber]

No, E3 was an actual design, the E4 isn’t

[nocturne grove]

Oh wait my bad i got it mixed up

[junior pasture]

Sure, can you show us some proof?

[violet timber]

Pictures for what the E3 is based on, the 5th design of the T110 project

[junior pasture]

Ah, I just realized it is the casemate. I stand corrected, my apologies!

[violet timber]

There was no similar design with a turret, the E4 is just some weird design based on this but given a turret for reason

[junior pasture]

all the american tanks are real except for the e4, yoh, and xm66f

[violet timber]

Yohs are all real designs, and I believe 66f is as well but it had a different designation iirc

[upper dirge]

the yoh's are real design's, just heavily changed in wotb.

[junior pasture]

Yoh line ended at M-V-Yoh and if you could, can you show me proof for xm66f? im drawing a collection of all tier 10 tanks in blitz with their real historical stats.

There is no documented proof that explicitly shows that the M-VII-Yoh, not even the M-VI-Yoh existed. Operation questionmark I believe is where the tanks were developed, but the Yoh series ended at no. 5

[upper dirge]

AAT60 I think? not 100% sure

scratch that, I mixed it up with a PC tank

[junior pasture]

yoh 5 is pretty accurate, i believe they just messed up the turret machine gun.

[junior pasture]

looks more similar to the concept which was a real tank hilariously enough. I thought it was a fake tank before finding documentation in Swedish reports. Here's the link: https://fromtheswedisharchives.wordpress.com/2018/10/23/us-tank-concepts-no-1-1-b-1968/

[violet timber]

So the XM66 is “real”, but it refers to the turret found here, not a tank

[junior pasture]

The turret looks a little less squashed than the blitz xm66f, which leads me to be a little skeptical, but oh well

[upper dirge]

the m7yoh is an adapted TV 8 if you ask me. Mostly just because of the engine in the turret.

[grave heart]

ohhh, so to design is like evolution from KV-3

[junior pasture]

I doubt that is a real tank, there's no public documentation. I've seen rumors regarding its existence, but that just doesn't seem like something real to me. The Yoh series ended with number 5, and if there was a 7, there must have been a 6 as well. So we are missing 2 tanks with documentation gone for both

[upper dirge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_TV-8

[plucky summit]

I have the urge to make a tank in Sprocket but I'm not sure what to go for

[upper dirge]

make a type 5 heavy\

[plucky summit]

I have attempted a Type 6 Heavy but the turret looked dumb so it's deleted

[nocturne grove]

M-VII-Yoh existed, though its not called that anywhere in the documents so the name is made up by wargaming, but it was a design developed by the Yoh company

https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2022/02/01/the-curious-ideas-of-yoh-part-2/

[upper dirge]

type 5 heavy is the coolest tank imo. So happy we are getting the Zetsu

[plucky summit]

I can't wait to play the O-I. It's my favorite WoT tank

[nocturne grove]

Same, though wg giving it a modified Ju-To turret is kinda lazy but i can live through it lol

[upper dirge]

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/usa/m-v-yoh/
mention of the 6 is in here

[upper dirge]

if you ask me, it makes it look a lot cooler. And the spaced give its complete HE immunity eveywhere except the rear

[violet timber]

M-VI-Yoh

[upper dirge]

@junior pasture what other tanks do you need help finding the origins of?

[nocturne grove]

I was about to post this as well lol, heres a artist impression atleast

[plucky summit]

Mfw singular set of normal tracks

[upper dirge]

2 sets. Look at the top down view

[nocturne grove]

I agree that HE and HEAT immunity do be nice but im just not a huge fan of the overall look, i like the original turret of the Type5 a lot more lol, but as i said i can live through it

[plucky summit]

Idk man kinda looks to me like two sets of wheels, not treads. No indication of a spare track

Drafters kinda cooked with that though

[nocturne grove]

Yeah the design drawing doesnt show it but the Track within a Track was developed by the Yoh company so its fair to say all their tanks would probably have it, plus the running gear of the tank is also simplified in that technical drawing

[upper dirge]

if there was a second set of wheels, I imagine they would have a second set of tracks. I cant think of any tanks that have 2 sets of wheels, and arent offset and only have one tread. Wargaming cooked the modeling, it looks just like it feels in game

[blissful cave]

No it’s not that
It’s this concept

[plucky summit]

Both sets of wheels operate both treads, though

[upper dirge]

yoh company had a great idea. Should still be used.

[junior pasture]

no, its too impractical

[junior pasture]

whered you get the image? i'd love to put that into my drawing collection of tanks

[upper dirge]

why do you say that?

[nocturne grove]

No way the XM66f is based on a real thing, super cool. Any info or link about this ?

[blissful cave]

Before that heres the other scrimblo bimblos that came in the same batch of concepts (some of these were what would later become M60A2)

[nocturne grove]

Ooh very cool, that last one lmao

[blissful cave]

The last one was added to PC as XM57 and I knew about that tank before it was added lmaooo i remember saying “imagine if they added that one”

[plucky summit]

They look so AI generated 😭

[junior pasture]

if you are referring to the emergency track mechanic, according to reports it took too much space. If you're talking about the oscillating turret that also just isn't practical, as the oscillating turret tanks didn't have sufficient armor

[nocturne grove]

Nice lol

[blissful cave]

They’re real I need to find the source I just have the images saved

[upper dirge]

the track. I feel like space is a decently easy problem to fix, all though.

[junior pasture]

In modern situations, I wouldn't think it would work. A direct shell into the track would likely mess up any mechanics in the emergency track rendering it useless. A 120mm sabot going super sonic definitely has enough penetration to do serious damage.

[upper dirge]

Modern warfare has moved slightly away from direct attacking though. Now it feels like IED's, mines, and other things are a big problem. And if the shell hits the track at an angle, you could still use the reverse track at the rear, correct?

[plucky summit]

If shrapnel has nothing to say about it

[junior pasture]

Like what @plucky summit said, shells usually lead to spall inside the tank as well as shrapnel going who knows where. Shrapnel to the track would also be quite devastating to any delicate mechanic hidden inside

[nocturne grove]

Basically yeah, the KV-3 project was cancelled because its armor was deemed not enough and thus a new project for a heavier and more armored heavy tank was started - KV-4

[junior pasture]

As well as the fact that it might overcomplicate things. This is the same thing that happened with Nazi Germany tanks, tanks were overengineered, therefore, production was slow. The MBT doctrine is to have a simple, working tank that is a jack of all trades but simple to mass produce.

[plucky summit]

KV-4 was just KV-1 + RightClick > Extrude

[nocturne grove]

Basically yeah lol, with T-150 and KV-3 in between.

Fun fact KV-5 was a competing design to the KV-4

[upper dirge]

I did forget about shrapnel, mb

[blissful cave]

I’m looking for the source where these images came from I can’t find it anymore it was some tank concept discussion board thing and someone found these documents (this was before ai and the site was pretty old I think, old as in I don’t think WG influenced it)

[junior pasture]

not sure if the grille 15cm was ever real, i've heard rumors of jg. pz. e100 being real; albeit not the way WG made it. rhm pzw is fake afaik and the kpz 50t is real but little documentation. if u could, please help clear up some of these so i can be sure

[nocturne grove]

Ah i see, thats alright. The image itself will be enough for now. But yeah thanks for showing it

[blissful cave]

.
Other information I remember is that this was from Question Mark Conference IV, and the non M60A2 ones like XM66F were more nuclear tank concepts but that part is unconfirmed

[upper dirge]

Grille is a Waffentrager Panther, but with a fake Fully traversable turret.

[junior pasture]

source pleasseeee 🙂

[upper dirge]

Jagdpanzer E 100 in fact was real, just called the Sturmgeschutz. Only change is that the Super Structure got moved back https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/15-17-cm-sturmgeschutz-auf-e100-fahrgestell/

[nocturne grove]

Yeah basically the turret is a real design but everything else around it is made up

[blissful cave]

Yeah it’s making a tank out of the demo image

[nocturne grove]

The thing is that the placement of the superstructure is not clear

[blissful cave]

No specific tank concept was made just a basic shape drawn around the turret to show what the gun does and they just made a tank using that
Like what they did with Murat

[nocturne grove]

Yeah pretty much, i like how for the murrat they took the AMX-30 turret and wet SQUARE

[valid gale]

No because you can literally do the same thing with a normal suspension you just wrap the track around the still functional wheels to limp away

[upper dirge]

i was just going of the image from tank encyclopedia

[junior pasture]

I plan on making a historical wotb channel proving the existence of tanks in blitz and their history

[valid gale]

It’s based off the AMX40 it even has the coaxial 20mm

[blissful cave]

I will gladly help
I love knowing the origin of tanks and if they’re real

[junior pasture]

but when i finish all my ap tests and when i acutally have time XD

[upper dirge]

that sounds awesome! When you do, send me the link.

[blissful cave]

I actually made a list a while ago of every tank in wotb real/fake/depends
but now it’d be very outdated missing like over 2 years worth of new tanks

[junior pasture]

@upper dirge @blissful cave would you two like to create a discord gc and we could work together and create content together? alr ill send u two rqs and we could dm

[blissful cave]

Yes

[upper dirge]

Sure

quick note, KPZ 50T is completely fake. just imported for World of Tanks

[junior pasture]

ah

[blissful cave]

Prior warning, some of these images I have of concepts were given to me by other people in this channel and I saved the image but don’t have the source saved (I do always ask to see if it’s real tho)

[junior pasture]

I did send you guys the requests, as soon as u guys accept we can create it and start working. I already have some plans 🙂

[blissful cave]

Not really, the design is real
But it was a 30 ton drawing in a defense magazine not an official concept so “Kpz 30t” they just added more weight so it’d be armored

[upper dirge]

I thought that was a sketch for a fan magazine?

[nocturne grove]

Yeah thats alright, they went with that intrepertation because it woukd make the most sense since for a rear casemate version they would have to change the engine placement, the middle placed casemate would be easier to produce since they could use a base E-100 hull like they did with the Jagdtiger.

I was just saying that there is no definite proof that would make it a rear or middle casemate TD

Only blueprint that survived is how the gun would be mounted.

[junior pasture]

@blissful cave did you see my rq?

[valid gale]

It was a design from the general who would go on to influence the leopard 1

[nocturne grove]

Project Murat my beloved

Mostly made up but i still really like it

[blissful cave]

Thanks like those I really appreciate
Where they really did they best they could to make a tank using a real concept drawing even if it’s just a loosely sketched outline just to show a feature

[valid gale]

The middle placement design for the 170mm though would be inherently front heavy and extra difficult to transport via train

[nocturne grove]

Ohhhh you're right my mad, i didnt know about the AMX-40

[valid gale]

Plus the rear casemate could have entrenching claws like that on the 4005 and open the rear doors to handle ejected casings or firing

[nocturne grove]

Have you by any chance shared that on the wot pc subreddit ? Because i saw something like that posted there some time ago

[nocturne grove]

Samee i also like when they use their creativity like that

[nocturne grove]

It probably would have been but who knows, also for train transport they probably would've done the same thing they with the Jagdtiger where for transport via train they loosen the gun and shifted it back in the superstructure so it would take up less space because the Jagdtiger 128 was long

I hope im remembering this correctly

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/tigerjager-design-b/

The Jagdtiger had a rear casemate version that was cancelled in favor of a middle casemate

[blissful cave]

No, that one wasnt me, mine was just a personal project of screenshotting tankopedia and marking color coded marks of real or fake

[nocturne grove]

The Grille 15 irl was a project for a Self Propelled artillery based on the Panther Chassis

The 15 in the name meant it was supposed to have a 150mm howitzer

There was also a variant called the Grille 12 which had a 128 mm howitzer

These are the design which were a part of this program

For whatever reason wargaming made this into a TD with a made up turret

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/nazi_germany/waffentrager-panthers/#:~:text=“However the Tier 10 “Grille 15” is,project was cancelled.” In other words%2C no

The real Grille 15 is present in wot pc but under the name G.W. Panther

[blissful cave]

very hard to see but that’s it
WT Pz IV

Nvm you’re talking about grille

[nocturne grove]

Damn nice find, i've never seen the real blueprints of the Waffentrager auf Panzer IV, just digital recreations

[nocturne grove]

Yeahhhh lol a bit different, its okay lol

[nocturne grove]

Ah i see i see

@blissful cave do you have anything on the Project Louis ? Because i've never managed to find anything about it

[blissful cave]

Louis I’ve heard is fake

Just bridging ERAC (real built tank) to Murat

[nocturne grove]

Yeah i thought so, IFV who wants to be a tank looking ahh

[red vapor]

The other version of grille 15 does exist

[nocturne grove]

Yeah thats what i said

[visual cradle]

Wargaming should buff FV215b 183 Damage on AP , HESH , HE players like more damage , i know its high damage but its not giving me fun anymore , you play this tank 1 montch and it gonna be boring. I prever on this tank like AP - 1000 - 1100 , HESH - 1300 - 1700 , He - 1400 - 1800. What do you think guys?

[marsh grove]

You should be banned from making any suggestions ever

[visual cradle]

bruh i just maked a suggestion

[visual cradle]

whats wrong

[marsh grove]

How clueless even are you 💔

[visual cradle]

bro WG is nerfing this tank a lot

[marsh grove]

Deservingly so

[undone hare]

Nerf what

That thing is still hitting people for 1.3k

[visual cradle]

idk ppls are just talking that WG is nerfing it a lot

[marsh grove]

All they did was nerf the view range

Thats literally it

[visual cradle]

This tank RNG everyday says to me get out

[marsh grove]

183
Derp gun
Really Rng dependent
Still complains about RNG when playing 183
?????????

[visual cradle]

i remember the time when i hitted 808 Grille 15 from He shel

[visual cradle]

yes

[rich blade]

I dont think u are cooking bro

[undone hare]

It's just a very inconsistent tank overall, slightly buff it and all things go south very quickly so it's better to let it stay where it is, or hell even nerf it again

[marsh grove]

Burned the house down with his cooking 💔💔

[rich blade]

facts 😞🥀

[undone hare]

https://tenor.com/view/withered-rose-wilted-rose-wilted-rose-sad-gif-17744787053523297376

[visual cradle]

i think WG will never buff 183 sadly

https://tenor.com/view/fv215b-183-fv4005-gif-10441162813954368443

the dmg i want in wotb

[marsh grove]

Then go play WoT if you want such damage

[visual cradle]

bruh , i like wot but in wot there is no 183 u need obligation , and i started late

[undone hare]

Bro just leave the 183 alone bro 🥀🙏

[visual cradle]

ok bro.

[mental perch]

You could get 183 for free in January

[karmic gale]

yooooo

[mental perch]

?

[karmic gale]

1776 xp, im an American.

[mental perch]

Ohh ok

[visual cradle]

how

[mental perch]

They gave 15k money if you had wot account for over a year and there's 183 in shop for 15k

[deep saddle]

how fun is the 4202 and is it worth buying

[fervent briar]

It's can shoot HESH, decent pen, 10° gun depression, and have a great alpha as medium. So yes it's fun when you have reliable gun.

Is it worth buying? No, not because the 4202 itself but the tech tree along the way, it's hard to grind, lot modules to research.

[vast plume]

Does anybody know which country developed this machine gun? I will only place this attachment to the same nation it produced it. I did Google it. It might be a Lewis MG.

[visual cradle]

bruh i have account for like 4 montchs

[mental perch]

Lol

[visual cradle]

in wot

[rain phoenix]

its french

[vast plume]

Thank youm

[junior pasture]

Does anyone have any historical documents regarding the existence of the VK 90.01 (P)?

[violet timber]

It’s based on a turret design for the Lowe, but the hull is fully fictional as far as I can tell

[pliant path]

That's the DT/DTM AA version of the Soviet Degtyaryov machine gun used on armored vehicles. A larger drum, with 60 shells, was used so that reloading wasn't needed as often, and a bipod was carried so that the single gun version could be used when dismounted. There's a photo of a captured one here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degtyaryov_machine_gun

[junior pasture]

Sterope is actually a real tank guys:

[blissful cave]

^these are the fake ai images I made to test how easy it is to fake tank evidence nowadays

[junior pasture]

bro 😭 i was tryna troll

Ah

[blissful cave]

I know but I already made the joke a while ago and i don’t want to spread misinformation about what tanks are real or not

[supple valve]

Kv4 107 or 122?

[violet timber]

107

[karmic gale]

currently designing a tank: (its not done yet)

[night citrus]

bote

[karmic gale]

its just a flat tank

[night citrus]

add some waves around and its a bote

[karmic gale]

boat*

[plucky summit]

In Blitz, we like saying words wrong if they represent a funny thing

For example, Tutel

[karmic gale]

ohhhhhh

[karmic gale]

have you never seen the bassota before?

[karmic gale]

or jagdpanzer 4?

[karmic gale]

0/10 raigbait

[queen sonnet]

If i get a camo for a tank, can i use it only on the one im buying to or can use it on every tank i have?

[blissful cave]

As in you’re buying a tank in the shop and it comes with a camo included?
Then no it’s almost always locked to the tank you’re buying

Or as in a camo certificate and putting it on a tank then also no they’re one time use

[queen sonnet]

Oh okay okay perfect thanks

[somber lava]

how do I play this? I see the armor as weak and the gun as average

[blissful cave]

Craziest facebook marketplace pull of all time
Anyone got 175,000$?

[rain phoenix]

stock tiger sucks but the second turret and gun are amazing. Tiger 2 is a really good tank

[tulip iron]

U need to scream DEUSTCHLAND everytime u take a snapshot
Increases gun accuracy by 200%

[sturdy willow]

It would be fantastic if in World of Tanks Blitz you could create a custom tank; for example, for 20,000 gold you could buy a chassis and then turrets or cannons to build a tank tailored to your liking. / Sería fantástico que en World of Tanks Blitz se pudiera crear un tanque personalizado; por ejemplo, por 20.000 de oro se podría comprar un chasis y luego torretas o cañones para construir un tanque a gusto del jugador.

I noticed that the AC Atlas turret looks spectacular on the AC Taygete chassis./Me di cuenta de que la torreta del AC Atlas luce espectacular en el chasis del AC Taygete.

[somber lava]

how often do you see ISU in this configuration

[fringe shell]

Uh no thank you

[fervent briar]

hell that's looong

[bitter compass]

It's great tank

[timber torrent]

Tryna get the e100?

[somber lava]

Yup

[timber torrent]

The E75 grind was nice... Unless you get matched agaisnt tier 10s. I recomend playing in fun modes especially mad games uprising and gravitizing to not damage your winrate.

[somber lava]

Idc about my wr, should I play pubs then if fun modes aren't in an ideal rotation

If I'm in a t9 game should I go med side to bully the meds instead of going ht side

[south jackal]

guys, is 60tp or kranvagn better for beginner to play with? like basically can win more

[tired bramble]

60tp for beginner cuz kran need a bit of skill plus grind for 60tp its more enjoyable

[timber torrent]

If u dont care about wr play pubs

[winged night]

I think that both tanks are beginner friendly. The only thing you should keep in mind is that 60TP is relativly easy to ammorack.

[winter bane]

I think fv215b is a better choice……..

[winter bane]

Kran is not if you dont know how to handle its gun properly:/

[winged night]

reticle calibration solves all problems 😉

[winter bane]

183💀🤣

[winged night]

💀

[slim thorn]

Hii

[thin notch]

I won this French tank in a French container that I got through missions in the premium shop on the War Gaming website. For what it's used for, is this tank any good?

[old valve]

It's decent, but I'd strongly suggest practicing heavy gameplay in lower tiers first. Jumping straight to Tier 10 probably won't bring you much fun, especially without using provisions or equipment.

[winter bane]

true，and u need to play really careful in this tank just because its hull’s frontal armor has a pike nose like is3, so i think u should more playing it as a hull down tank not a strong armor tank👊🏻👍🏻

[quaint pebble]

Thunder is soooo fun but curse in the same time lmao 19 reload if u miss that shot... isn't funny

[lyric ruin]

and the aim time is horrendously long

[winter bane]

Thunder=KV-1S but worse

[quaint pebble]

I mean it's so slow than kv1s but lack of armor if u already give this thing -10deg of dep why dont u give him some turret Armor for bouncing the shot or give him more aim time for peak a boo...and in reforged his Skin effect is gone too... it's mean this thing is nothing but old KV1S WITH HIGH PEN

[winter bane]

Thunder trade his reload time and armor for higher pen💀

[quaint pebble]

Well yep 175 pen but everthing is .meh

[winter bane]

but its still rare👍🏻

[quaint pebble]

It's will not rare cuz wg ruin it in Reforged the effect of red star is gone

But 1 thing i hate is tiger maus....why bro heavier than mäuschën...

[grave heart]

the turret maybe somehow :/

[quaint pebble]

Bro....even the turret but mäuschën supposed to be heavier than tiger maus.... The e100 itself weigh only 130ton.... With bunch of heavy side Armor it mean tiger maus that using same hull as e100 with E75 skirt(Lighter than e100) + maus turret? Or type 205 turret idk overall Weight it's not even more than 145 ton while mäuschën is 168ton..

Irl hull of e100 that they found in haustenbeck weight only 88ton

[thin notch]

Thanks so much! Don't worry, I already have a tier X tank so I've already had a chance to practice!

[sleek heron]

The sparky star is gone in Reforged? Bummer!

[quaint pebble]

Yep

[torn scarab]

ptos todos los de arriba

[junior pasture]

Inglis por favor 🙂

[reef bane]

Which tank is better 116-f3 or Kranvagn 🤔

[jolly iris]

Depends on the playstyle and map in my opinion. Both are great tanks

[marsh grove]

On flat ground, 116-F3

Kranvagn doesnt have as much hull armor but definitely alot of turret armor

Unlike 116, Kran is able to abuse ridgelines and just become a bunker using its gun dep afaik

But yeah, still map dependent sometimes

[barren yarrow]

Why is t54 ltwt like paper

[rich blade]

because its a light tank, they usually are paper

[barren yarrow]

I don’t want to play as a run away but it makes me feel like I have to

[blissful cave]

Then don’t play a light tank💀

If you want to be a T-54 and have a little more armor then play the medium version

[pure bronze]

"lightweight" thats why it has less armour than T-54
well at least you gain the ability being not HEable by most tanks
you also can ram other lighter light tanks and you have good mobility while being as large as a medium

[vast plume]

Guys why is the Herdbreaker so big? I spawned on the medium side and I'm like 3 times bigger than a French LT. What model of the M48 is the Herdbreaker? Anyway that tank is a bad ahh. I dare to say it is the best T9 medium.

[pure bronze]

Herdbreaker is actually an M60A3 if I remember correctly so, it got a little modifications for The Walking Dead style

[barren yarrow]

Yea trust I’m working on the medium version

[violet timber]

A1*

[blissful cave]

M60A1^

I wish the M60 we have in game was M60A1 so it’d look more different from M48

[vast plume]

Thank you! @blissful cave

[blissful cave]

I even made a model of it

The M60 camo but on the A1

[steep jacinth]

herdbreaker

you should totally paint another m60A1 to look like it even though its not really an M60A1

[blissful cave]

This morning I was like “mh I wish I could play as the Abrams”
Eh close enough

[barren yarrow]

Can we get a Abrams? Is it too much to ask for

[fringe shell]

yes it is

[barren yarrow]

I mean it’ll be over priced and you’d have to gamble for it but is it really

[jolly iris]

When i play it i get Leopard 2 vibes xD

[blissful cave]

Lmao yeah that’s for when I have the cavalry camo on
I do the same thing when I want to feel like I’m playing leopard 2

[jolly iris]

XD sadly i only have the RakKpz 70 with the Batterie camo xD

[blissful cave]

Yes it’s too modern for this game

[thorny mulch]

We got wotma and wt for that

[barren yarrow]

Ah yea I forgot about that

[blissful cave]

If they actually took tier 11 seriously I’d love if they added XM1 tho (Abrams first prototype)

[barren yarrow]

Agreed and some Soviet vehicles too. Wouldn’t mind a bmp

but again all in wotma. Just sad what they did it’s kinda dead

[jolly iris]

Early variant of the Leopard 2 would be amazing for Tier 11

[hot tendon]

buff stb

[blissful cave]

According to WoT we’re just gonna get leopard 1 with a 120mm :(

Since unfortunately we’re just getting the wot pc tier 11’s

[jolly iris]

Oh thats sad. Leopard 2 with the 140mm would have been cool xD

[blissful cave]

Yeah maybe if we get tier 14💀

[jolly iris]

Hahaha. Would be funny xD but i want then KF-51 Panther hah

[blissful cave]

Realistically i think tier 11 should add at least the prototypes of the modern MBT’s since those are like late 70’s early 80’s
Very disappointed by the approach of tier 11 it’s just all made up slop for tanks that EASILY could have a real tank as its tier 11 like M48 Patton…what the is an “xm69 hacker”

I don’t mind at all adding fake tanks as continuations to tanks that already aren’t real
But they don’t even try for the ones that easily could have a real tank

[violet timber]

tier 11 should be second gen mbts tbh, M60A3, Leopard 1A5, T-62, etc

[jolly iris]

I agree with you

[blissful cave]

I think you mean T-72 tier 10 is already T-62 but yeah absolutely

[violet timber]

T-62A, the T-62 is in line with the M60A3 and leo 1a5

[blissful cave]

My most wanted tier 11 would be T58 Heavy after T57 Heavy

[junior pasture]

Anyone here in EU?

[jolly iris]

Yeah

[junior pasture]

Have u gotten the april monthly tier 8 tank deal with containers that costs 11$

[barren yarrow]

Long story short I hate this grind for t54

Basilisk fully upgraded from the past event is pretty good too but ehh not helping my grind. I just started the German line I want maus haus ofc but the casual f2p grind is abysmal

[winter bane]

U will make it in one day of ur life, keep going, my first tech tree line is also T-62A

[wind fable]

It's not a t8 this month it's a 16 dollar t9

[normal forge]

Where

[wind fable]

One sec let me find the category it's in

Nvm it has 5 days left but still is a good deal its in offers

[normal forge]

Can you show me the offer

[normal forge]

Thank you

[wind fable]

Np

[jolly iris]

No

[granite stirrup]

Lads, in your opinion how good is the BZ 176

[violet timber]

Bad

[hidden crown]

Good.

[violet timber]

It’s competing for the worst tier 9 heavy

[normal forge]

Awful

[manic kettle]

Omg, I remember when tornvagn was only 8 lvl with single shot gun, but now its completely different tank wit a lot better gun and armor
Also its really good if you have a friend or a teammate on K-91, this duo can completely destroy anything and everyone

[bleak ingot]

Solid tank

[blissful cave]

It’s funny how much filler is in that offer

[normal forge]

Filler gave me 752 and t22 (again), not bad value for 16€

[blissful cave]

If you actually want T-2020 then the tank+6 Soviet containers+2 awesome containers isn’t a bad deal, and I guess premium time if you need it
Avatar container, garage container attachment container are just purely there to look like you get more containers but are completely useless filler, and the X5’s are only for the tank which is pretty unnecessary for premiums

[blissful cave]

The tank crates are the good part, the filler is the stuff like avatar containers

[normal forge]

I see

[wet sky]

Eh, just sidescrape. Peek, shoot, retreat, repeat, and you'll be fine.:)

[junior pasture]

How strong is the T2020? Buy or skip if I have the money?

[wind fable]

Honestly it's completely up to you if you do buy and and don't like it you can sell it for 5000 gold

[somber lava]

is the hole here 0mm

[blissful cave]

Curious if the same applies to open top TD’s what happens if you get a good setup and shoot directly down into it

From that I’ve tried I think certain interactions don’t work like hitting the back wall of an open top TD

[somber lava]

I shot a super hellcat in the turret top and HE only did splash. (Panther 7.5cm top gun HE vs SHellcat)

Could be because my aim is bad and im shooting on the move

[timber torrent]

Plenty worse like obj 452k or stock mauschen

[blissful cave]

Stock M46 Patton

[violet timber]

452k is by far better than bz176

[somber lava]

stock st-1

[timber torrent]

Not when u get paired up agaisnt tier 10s

[violet timber]

BZ-176 is terrible against tier 10 lol, it struggles against even its own tier, and even some tier 8s. 452k has a way better armor profile with a much more reliable gun

[timber torrent]

You can not belive how much phisical pain this tank caused me and how many Times i got ammoracked by a fv 183 or jg pz e100

[fringe shell]

452k is not bad

[timber torrent]

Its good cuz it has the speed aiming thingy (dont know how its called)

[fringe shell]

Combat stabs

[timber torrent]

Yeah that thing.

Got the ac celeno -➡️ play a game of skirmish➡️ get ammoracked

[kindred wren]

It mostly depends on whether WG added an invisible hitbox to cover the gap or not. There appear to be robustness solutions which ensure that shells that hit the back of an armour plate auto-pen. I suspect that it‘s modules sticking out which cause the weird behaviour

[valid gale]

Iirc there’s a weird thing with open top vehicles attacking them from the top doesnt injure or break things as if you shot them in the back of the turret

Like shooting at the literal ammorack of the hellcat from the front won’t rack it

[somber lava]

T54, 330 vs 310 gun? (assuming i plan to get both t62a and obj140)

[vocal kelp]

Spent $10 and got a TSL-7 Defender, opinions?

[somber lava]

Do you like the tank? Was it a cash direct buy tank or bundle buy

[vocal kelp]

Bundle buy, I haven’t used it in anything but skirmish, I’m iffy about the turret face it has