vehicles-discussion

[verbal patio]

Also just penned a Jg.Pz E 100's hatch with HESH on my 183. Crazy accuracy lmao.

[cunning kraken]

Yes another stupid change…… 183 should never be that accurate

It’s like with every “rebalance” the game becomes more red v blue & specialist tanks are slowly losing their uniqueness

[verbal patio]

Honestly agree with that. I hit shots that I should never hit in a tank that deletes HP in one shot.

[blissful cave]

That stuff doesn’t bother me it’s just for in game stat balancing
But stuff that actually alters the design of a tank heavily or stuff that’s a significant difference slightly does
Like upgrading TS-5 from 105 to 120 no big deal
But giving TL-7 a 120mm when the original is a 90mm and turning it from a light tank into a heavy makes no sense

[cunning kraken]

Bingo……

[tepid lily]

Last one makes sense, I was wondering where you kinda draw the line and it seems we are on the same page for the most part.

[blissful cave]

But as long as the core tank is real is mainly what matters to me

[blissful cave]

Even stuff like that where they change a real tank a decent amount but still keeps it the same designwise only bothers me a little but still no big deal

[tepid lily]

honestly the TL-7 should have been a light TD with a powerful punchy gun that's relatively agile

[cunning kraken]

Speaking of 183….. I side shot ammo wrecked a full health JPZ E100 once lmao. You should’ve seen the reaction in battle chat 😉

[verbal patio]

Did it again. Penned a KRAN hatch.

How does that happen.

[blissful cave]

Like when I’m playing as it it still looks exactly like TL-7 just the armors thicker so no big deal

[cunning kraken]

Very lucky. Anyway not a tank I ever play anymore. It’s one of those where you either have a lot of fun or grinding your teeth - very team dependant.

[tepid lily]

ah makes sense

[verbal patio]

I don't like the fact that both British TDs are VERY team dependent. (At least researchable TDs)

Need new TD.

[cunning kraken]

Well that WTE100 was being openly tested - I played against it in game some weeks back……. So can’t be too far off release

[blissful cave]

me knowing that Tornvagns concept describes its autoloader having an estimated 10 rounds per minute giving it a 6 second reload when in game that’s doubled to a 12 second reload
But I’m not gonna be all specific about that because they put it at tier 8
I feel like Tornvagn with its irl accurate stats and when the tank was made it should definitely be a tier 10

[tepid lily]

It would have made for an awesome reward tank/collector tank

[blissful cave]

But at the same time another one of my favorite tanks T30 has like 2 rounds per minute irl reloading at like 30 seconds but in game reduced to fit with the other tanks of that caliber
This is just all in game balancing so it’s all fair

[verbal patio]

No new British TD?

[cunning kraken]

Not to my knowledge but I’m not “in the know”.

[tepid lily]

Thoughts on WZ-122TM?

[blissful cave]

What about it?

Like what do I think about the tank or stuff about this whole adjusting it from irl to fit the game

[tepid lily]

irl it has a smoothbore gun but WG modelled it with a rifled gun, gave it armor and threw it in tier 8. Performance irl is more closer to the T-62 in terms of mobility, firepower and armor protection

[blissful cave]

They love to do that
I mentioned before they changed all those US concept tanks from smoothbores to rifled just so they can say they stick to their rule

[wheat cloud]

also no mechanical hydraulic system 😔. 122tm more like 122 zm 😔

[blissful cave]

Also for Tornvagns places with composite armor they just modeled it as very thick raw armor so that works too

[safe acorn]

it's actually more responsive

[blissful cave]

They should just do that if they want to add composite armor tanks just make those areas simply thick raw steel armor to keep composite armor out if they want but still not disqualify tanks from being added

[safe acorn]

Actually yeah WZ-122TM is about the same level of firepower and movement as T-62M1

[blissful cave]

Can we get WZ-122-4 in the game? It’s my favorite Chinese tank and instead we just get some excuse called “BZ-75” that’s supposed to be based on it apparently except a heavy tank and also not real

[safe acorn]

Man the switch from playing WT and then running a supermarket in Supermarket Together

You know, I used to get consistent 5 kills with russian tanks
"Yeah put the cans in the bag man"

[blissful cave]

Basically Chinese leopard 1
It’s china’s attempt at making a western style MBT since they’ve always been soviet influenced

[safe acorn]

Chinese Leopard 1 is a stretch
Closer to Leopard 2 probably Leopard 2 from Temu

[tepid lily]

Well acktually 🤓

The TM tank technically had two different suspension systems tested. One version was equipped with the hydropneumatic system, and the other used a conventional system.

[blissful cave]

In game it could be like the 1

[wheat cloud]

listen here, if you think i can understand words like "hydropneumatic" you're dreaming

[blissful cave]

Here’s WZ-122-4 for whoever wants to see it : )

[safe acorn]

Hell nah it's already fine as it is
Just remove the 150mm gun and make it more mobile (which it should be in the first place)

[tepid lily]

The TM in the name stands for triple mechanical, which breaks down into mechanical suspension, transmission and control systems

[safe acorn]

WOT PC if you made it with a mobility kit then it's possible to chase down MTs

[blissful cave]

Delete BZ-75 and actually put the tank it’s supposed to be
Or make 122-4 its own separate medium

[tepid lily]

basically means hydraulic suspension system

[blissful cave]

https://preview.redd.it/wz-1224-chinese-mbt-prototype-this-is-what-bz-75-is-v0-ak6tvf0kqfca1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=991cc4a690588ea48179573cdfefad3bbdb9650f

[wheat cloud]

btw why do you say 122-4 and not 1224

[tepid lily]

That tank has no elevation and no depression btw. 10 degrees elevation with barely 3 degrees of depression

[blissful cave]

Hydropneumatic suspension is basically the thing Strv 103 does where it can tilt itself and stuff like type 74 lowering one side and things like that with moving around its suspension

[wheat cloud]

good. finally someone happy and not depressed in this forsaken game

[verbal patio]

What do you guys think about the B C 25t line from Tier VI-X (On their overall performance in their tier and when uptiered.

[tepid lily]

Because the WZ-122 tank was broken up into 6 different tanks trying different systems for the PLA. the dash 4 indicates it's the fourth prototype to take the industrial name WZ-122

[safe acorn]

Thing is
I've been told WZ-122 couldn't tilt
All it was, is to improve the cross country ride

[blissful cave]

https://tenor.com/view/strv-sunday-stridsvagn-103-103b-gif-23395330

[wheat cloud]

The photo they sent literally says "1224" ive always seen the names be 1221 1226, etc no dashes

[tepid lily]

Challenger 1 has a similar suspension system as well

[wheat cloud]

Stb too

[safe acorn]

Nuh STB can tilt
Some hydropneumatic systems aren't built for adjustable clearances so they just provide improved cross country performance

Like the AMX-13 SM1

[tepid lily]

The dashes are just a way to make the name more readable. It's there to clearly indicate which prototype of the WZ-122 series since there are at least 6 known different prototypes that share the same name. Both are accurate and correct designations for the tank

[safe acorn]

Besides not all hydropneumatic suspensions can accommodate 3D tilting anyways if they could tilt

[wheat cloud]

so stb is a lol player?

[safe acorn]

I'm surprised Obj 775 could lower it's suspension even with it's pancake height

[blissful cave]

It’s like how some people complain and are so nitpicky that they say T110E3 isn’t it’s real name okay well it makes it easier than
“Heavy gun tank T110 Chryslers third proposal”

[tepid lily]

Challenger 1 can't tilt tho. It's just there for rider experience

[wheat cloud]

i wish i couls emote react to say thanks to all answers and not spam

[eternal canopy]

it's gonna be a real pancake when it does that

[blissful cave]

https://tenor.com/view/object-775-tank-wiggle-how-gif-4530771799479530592

[safe acorn]

People underappreciate how much the changes on the T-55A means after using the T-54

[tepid lily]

This is what the LT-432 is based off apparently

[blissful cave]

You wanna know what really grinds my gears?
When they add fakes to countries that have PLENTY of real tanks or when the fakes are based on real ones

Like why would you ever need to add fake object tanks do you know how many frickn object tanks exist?

[tepid lily]

because moneee

[violet timber]

Not really

[safe acorn]

LT-432 is based off of the Obj 432
Which is basically the first prototype for T-64

[violet timber]

LT-432 is based off Obj 432, but WG made it a light tank for some reason, gave it a fake “could carry infantry!”, and called it a day

[safe acorn]

It's debatable whether it exists

[wheat cloud]

tbh i also could carry infantry its not that wrong

[tepid lily]

When I google Object 432, I get results for T-64A

I'm starting to question whether that is correct or not

[violet timber]

This is 432, which LT-432 is based on

[safe acorn]

This is the only pic for the LT-432
And they still want it to carry troops

[violet timber]

Its ability to carry troops is questionable at best

[tepid lily]

I see the resemblance, but the LT-432 literally seems squashed in comparison so I can't help but say it looks more like the Object 775 despite carrying a lot of the turret details from the T-64. The Object 775 does use the running gear of the T-64 which is why I made that assumption. The pancake turret also seems to match the profile of the 775. Can't help but wonder if WG saw these two tanks and decided to take details from the T-64 but make it 775 "shaped" if you can even call it that

[violet timber]

775 is a janky vehicle

[safe acorn]

It's Russian
Knowing how cramped everything is
I wouldn't be surprised if they still wanted it to carry troops

[tepid lily]

On the back...?

[violet timber]

If you look at the model, there are hatches behind the turret

[tepid lily]

Inside?? There isn't any space for troops. Are you sure these aren't engine access points for maintenance? Oh I see it now mb

I didn't realize we were referring to the technical drawings above

[violet timber]

No no, even in game you can see them

[safe acorn]

Man we got the Obj 911 which is even shorter than the BMP-1 and still had to fit 6 dudes

[tepid lily]

tight fit. Look at the technical drawings and you'll see that the soldiers have to sit with their knees up against their chest. I can't imagine what that would be like carrying a full kit w/ AK

[fervent elm]

Pancake

[safe acorn]

I'm guessing their equipment would all be carbines and grenades

Basically scout/ranger equipment

[tepid lily]

I can't recall if Soviet troops had underfolding stocks for their AKs at this time. The Object 911 is hella derpy looking. It's so incredibly uncanny omg my eyes. I need eyebleach now

BMP in an alternate universe

[safe acorn]

They did on their AKS-74s

[valid gale]

They did for a while
They also liked the idea enough it would be tried again by the T80 chassis

[tepid lily]

I just realized that this was even before they thought about making their weapons more compact. You'd have to fit inside with your full sized AK without the ability to retract the stock 💀

[safe acorn]

Soviet tactics no matter the research
Will always be uncanny
Like the paratroopers who held on at the top of their assigned aircraft so that the main holding area could be used for bombs

[tepid lily]

What's with the Soviets and trying to stuff as many troops inside of their tanks? Wild stuff. I can understand why'd they do it with IFVs, but trying to use MBTs as troop carriers is something else completely

[safe acorn]

I mean?

[violet timber]

Israel with the Merkava:

[valid gale]

The Merkava works though but pays in price for that

[violet timber]

At least the Merkava isn’t 2 feet tall so it can actually fit troops

[safe acorn]

Yeah lesser ammo
And then you realize they also have Namer APCs
So they have redundancy

[valid gale]

What that depends on load out
It suffers bad front armor from AP and the front engine blinds its thermal optics and causes minor warpage

[tepid lily]

I stand corrected again 💀

[violet timber]

The front engine doesn’t blind thermal optics

[valid gale]

It does it was an issue for the mk3s

[tepid lily]

True, but all the ammo racks need to be removed for it to be used as a troop carrier. Rarely does that ever happen from what I know

[violet timber]

The whole “engine heat blinds thermals” is a complete myth that has been busted multiple times

[blissful cave]

Dumbest teammate award goes to
If he had half a brain he could take out both the VK 100 and the tiger

[violet timber]

Skill issue tbh, should’ve just had a smart teammate

[sullen abyss]

Fr

[meager spindle]

this is clearly just the t64 lightweight

🗿

[thick anvil]

You all think there is no arty in Blitz

Think again

[plucky summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/569023014432407563/1069766164881883161/castillaShot2.mp4?ex=671d7fe1&is=671c2e61&hm=773b4420ea810283558359299715c1af1b0aaf49c2f253e1605f307fb7f49ddd&

[icy swallow]

Pros and Cons of IS-4 and IS-7

Can some judge which is better

[plucky summit]

IS-7 is better. It used to be that IS-4 was more competitive for the longest time before it got an armor nerf and IS-7 had a tweaked armor profile

[safe acorn]

So Obj 140 stats came out for WT
Faster than T-55A
The D-54TS is nuts

[meager spindle]

disagree, IS-4 is in a better place right now, especially after IS-7 just received the pointless nerf it did

[safe acorn]

If WG doesn't want the Strv 103 for WoTB
Can they make this into a line please

[blissful cave]

Just tried a few EU crates…got a progetto duplicate
Credit compensation is the worst

[wary summit]

Looks like a Bglpz on steroids

[safe acorn]

If the bagel had a 155mm cannon ofc

[dusk flame]

New gambling low point?

[hybrid kraken]

i will take this over the matilda draw

[ashen crown]

My guy has enough gold to buy 2 tier 10s

[tawny obsidian]

How this guys got a WT auf e100 ?

[fervent elm]

its in testing. you found a tester

[tawny obsidian]

Oh okay thanks

[safe acorn]

If FV4005 is a barn
WT Auf E-100 is a whole house

Dr House to be accurate

[hybrid kraken]

yes he is afk

[little plume]

Hey everyoneis the forest witch draw worth it, or I should wait for it in next auction?

[harsh elm]

no

[kindred wren]

Don‘t worry though, he‘s AFK

Ah damn, didn‘t scroll down entirely so I duplicated a joke

[wild lotus]

Once

[blissful cave]

M6A2E1’s armor is absolutely insane
Only died after two tanks got behind me while fighting off like three in front of me

Being virtually impenetrable aside from some very thin turret cheeks that can be near impossible to hit if you traverse it side to side a little while expecting a hit makes getting bounces really easy

If a tank is impenetrable in a certain position people just won’t fire
But if there’s a weak spot even if very small they’ll just keep trying to hit it and you’ll get all these bounces

[dusk flame]

nice one

[dusk flame]

that would be stupid imo

[dusk flame]

T92E1 is a fun lil tank

[empty plinth]

no

[dusk flame]

su-130pm is a great td for t8

[lavish phoenix]

No gsor 1008 is amazing don’t sell

You wouldn’t even get the tank

[dusk flame]

and tbh is a mediocre tank, the 777 II

[lavish phoenix]

Its not bad

[dusk flame]

I did not say that

[elfin vale]

Vale a pena comprar alguns desses tanques ? Sou novo e atualmente jogo com um tanque pesado T1 Heavy.

[blissful cave]

Yoooo why are they selling the really good old camos on them but then just now having those camos obtainable at all

The ones on Matilda excelsior and panzer I want those camos SO bad you have no idea

[zenith shadow]

Why they so expensive 😟

$11 for a tier 5 is crazy

[elfin vale]

do you think i stick with the t1 heavy or is it worth getting one of these tanks?

[zenith shadow]

Stick with T1 dont even bother spending your money on those premiums

[elfin vale]

If it were in dollars it would be 2 dollars, but I'm Brazilian so it's 10.90... the currency devalued ;/

[zenith shadow]

O

[elfin vale]

ok brother, I'm new and I don't know much about tanks, thanks for your opinion and help.

[zenith shadow]

Nah id say dont spend on those tier 5 tanks. They are fun but not worth the spend

[elfin vale]

I understand, thank you very much

[safe acorn]

I have the Panzer IV/V skin on my Leo 1

[wary summit]

Pz 5/4 can be considered for fun modes, but it's better to save your cash on some better deals

[hybrid kraken]

its armor fell apart the moment the enemy have above 340 pen

[rigid maple]

I need an advice on which should i get? Tiger 2 or AMX ac.46? I already tested the tiger 2 but got many defeat

[dusky tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1282765336038473830/1300049457190277144/1027_5.mp4?ex=671f6ce8&is=671e1b68&hm=8c3446f17e8b54f767b529a72ea5d190b22c7a87aa1c50b8d5ecf071b0f933f9& Smooth?

[rigid maple]

Smooth as butter

[kindred wren]

Smooth as my brain

[hybrid kraken]

tiger 2 for beginners, amx ac has no armor, u need some skills for it

[rigid maple]

Did brought tiger 2 but its sucks

[rigid maple]

But the amx was faster and more damage than tiger 2

[safe acorn]

Are you doing wehraboo tactics or is it instant HEAT

[rigid maple]

The first one

[safe acorn]

I see
So not the tank's problem

[rigid maple]

Yup clearly me

[hybrid kraken]

but its alot less flexible and have alot lesser hp with no armor, u wont take much its in it compared to tiger

[rigid maple]

On yt people say it was buff to the armor and the downside of it was the capola

[hybrid kraken]

idk who said it but 10mm buff didnt change anything lol, and the cupola makes the armor useless anyways

[hybrid kraken]

i grinded the whole foch line and trust me, i find the amx ac 48 alot more painful then my experience with the tiger 2

[rigid maple]

Like russkan said I'm doing the wehraboo tactics which I'm sick to my head sticking on it

[astral cedar]

after next update, will ho-ri be only t10 without pbr?

[hybrid kraken]

yes sadly

[pulsar hatch]

Hey guys
Opinions on the CS 44, 53 and 59 ?

Should I use free exp to skip them ?

[solid gate]

yes its a great wall if u manage to keep them in front of u

[solid gate]

44 meh, cs 53 alright, 59... its ok tho

[blissful cave]

Hopefully that means that now that all the tier 10’s will be done after Ho ri some of the iconic WW2 tanks can get it
I may be wrong but I think none of the many Sherman variants in the game have PBR not counting maybe Rudolph or high score the gimmick unrealistic ones

[solid gate]

i hope they can be pbr, so i can do a fury vs tiger in my room

[blissful cave]

Yea E8 getting PBR would be so nice
E8 Sherman was like THE certified classic for me
The Sherman was my first favorite tank and E8 being the most iconic to me

[solid gate]

hope m4 rev also

[daring yew]

None so far
But the RU wotb did make sherman PBR

[solid gate]

always lesta, that why people say lesta universe was heaven (not the toxic guys tho)

[blissful cave]

Do you think they’ll ever update the old removed tanks or no? (The stuff you get in sand boxes) either their last priority or none at all

[solid gate]

idk, wg seem focus on getting money and new tanks tho

maybe wait for wotb 2.0

[blissful cave]

One thing I’ll say is I don’t like what PBR does to regular camos it makes them so plastic and highly saturated

[daring yew]

It's not that heaven like people said

[solid gate]

or too shiny, its annoying, and make it look not realistic

[solid gate]

better than do nothing

[blissful cave]

Like I look at the US credit camo swamp alligator and am like “why don’t I ever put this on any of my tanks this looks SO good on EXP”
…oh that’s why

[daring yew]

How do i say this
Instead of focusing on tier 10 and some tier 8 or 9 like WG
They will focus on a tech tree line instead

[solid gate]

gonna sell bourasque when auction come, i did an experiment and erac105 seems out perform in almost all aspect

[blissful cave]

I think it looks way better and more realistic when it’s more dulled and not so bright colorful and shiny like it’s a vinyl car wrap not a camouflage

[solid gate]

yes agree, also i sell camo to buy customization and buy credits camo lol, i love realistic

[blissful cave]

So maybe the low tier tanks not having PBR would be good for camos I don’t think them being super HD matters

[safe acorn]

Rat Vs Fat

[solid gate]

the gun on erac more flexible, the only thing erac worse is the size

[blissful cave]

Speaking of,why am I having so much fun in panzer IV A it feels completely different from the tier 4 and 5
4 and 5 feel like basic unit medium tanks mid damage per shot
But down in tier 3 it’s like a high damage bonk tank having over 10 seconds of reload

[safe acorn]

Also I find it funny how Su-130PM has an auto-ricochet on the engine deck

So the craziest bounces can happen

[daring yew]

They won't get Unreal Engine 5 upgrade though

[blissful cave]

Plus it’s a way to play the short barrel panzer IV if you want that look for when the tank was first produced (tier 4 makes you upgrade into the long barrel one if you don’t want to play stock)

[safe acorn]

It's a game engine wide update tho
LESTA is a separate server, not a separate game

[solid gate]

yeah, the dmg seems low but remember low tier have less hp

[blissful cave]

Yea so doing average 75mm damage is actually a lot

[solid gate]

who know what they cooking

[safe acorn]

besides it's just a graphics update
If WG decides to go wackier with skins and stuff then UE5 is the way

[solid gate]

1 thing i complain tier 4 german: luch is sooo slow in both speed and turn, its feel slugish lol

i can be circle by other mt lol

[daring yew]

Thanks to 5.5 update

[solid gate]

swear to god pantera underrated

[safe acorn]

A hidden goat

[solid gate]

and a good thing to make people slam their device

(ram)

[safe acorn]

I think Panther II is heavier..?
Idk I just take that one out and blast Jessica with wolf strike on

[solid gate]

but pantera have invisible

[fervent elm]

almost heaven
west virginia
blue ridge mountains
shenandoah rivers

[safe acorn]

But Hunter's mark does up damage so you can pump rounds into em

[solid gate]

with rammers, suprise the enemy, aproach them when they cant see u is the best, u can experience the enemy pain in 1 insta kill , invisible also increase speed, which make wolfstrike more dangerous, agree hunter mark increase dmg but u cant get close to enemy to do instakill tho

[solid gate]

yes i know, but i like to use it on td more

[full cliff]

yugoslava tanm (not real)

[solid gate]

They should make so122 tho (sherman with 122mm gun)

[wary summit]

Yugoslavia on their way to make the best T-72 variants while still having Jacksons

[lime patio]

Which one should i choose here im somewhat of a veteran and i chose leopard the last time i played this gsme and i couldnt win anymore lol

(I just started playing yesterday)

[wary summit]

VK36

[patent oracle]

vk36

[vast plume]

Can one of you guys name the best Chinese tanks? Tier 6 and above. Any role is fine. Thank you.

[gloomy jacinth]

113, 113g-ft, 132-1

[twin epoch]

Should i go for the 60 TP?

[dusk flame]

Can I get some help with Tornvagn equipment?

[blissful cave]

😏

[dusk flame]

I was looking for you 😉

[blissful cave]

This is what I have on mine
I’m testing enhanced armor lately tho
This whole time I’ve had HP I still need to figure out which is better for me

[dusk flame]

👌

[violet timber]

Questionable at best

[blissful cave]

Tornvagn being an autoloader but still getting rammer is so good,thank God
(It’s a “single shot autoloader” it doesn’t have a loader crew member that can be injured,instead having the commander injured doubles load time like the multi shell autoloader tanks)

[dusk flame]

Talking abou the tank?

[violet timber]

The equipment setup

[dusk flame]

How'd you do it?

[violet timber]

Lemme launch the game rq

[dusk flame]

yeah

as hull down as they come, I guess 🙂

[dusk flame]

Geez the tornvagn gun is precise

[civic agate]

Yes

[blissful cave]

It likes to screw with me for some reason and feels more inaccurate than it actually is
But like statwise people say it’s very accurate compared to other 120mm heavies especially soviet and Chinese ones

[dusk flame]

From what I’ve experiencing, it’s spot on

[ebon burrow]

Is this tank rare

It has the Australian flag which I never seen before

[safe acorn]

AC1 is quite rare
AC IV has been sold a few times (and it's in the weekly crates)

[ebon burrow]

Thanks

[blissful cave]

Yea there’s only 3 Australian tanks in the game the two sentinels and Centurion RAAC

[ebon burrow]

And what tier are the tanks

[blissful cave]

Sentinel I (tier 4)
Sentinel IV (tier 6)
Centurion RAAC (tier 8)

[ebon burrow]

Wow

[blissful cave]

I wish they’d do more with that idea but they don’t : (
Adding sub category countries that fit under the official category of one of the nations in the name (the Australian tanks function as British tanks for things like sorting and missions)

[upper hearth]

what are the best thing to load on this tonk

my currently loadout for M43 ⬆️

[tulip steppe]

do you play it like a sniper or moving around and flanking or bullying the enemy?

[upper hearth]

flanking

[violet timber]

Not really

[ebon burrow]

Should i sell this tank or keep it?

[ebon burrow]

Some people said it is

[violet timber]

It’s not

[violet timber]

Never used enhanced tracks on any tank

[blissful cave]

Don’t base that on other people’s opinion
Do you like this tank? If so keep it if you never use it or don’t want it sell it

[ebon burrow]

I tried the tank, its bad, 90 damage max, 4 seconds reload, no armor and its kinda slow

I sold it anyway cuz it sold for 1000 gold and i can try to get containers from the thing in the shop that is full of containers

[tulip steppe]

if its worth a descent amount of gold id sell it, but if it's only worth like 50-250 i wouldn't sell

[ebon burrow]

900 credits and 1000 gold

[tulip steppe]

i haven't played it in awhile but id probably run 1/2/1 1/2/1 1/2/1.

[blissful cave]

I genuinely have so much fun there’s tons of my historic favorites down there as well as tanks that are just actually super fun to play like T-46

All tiers are fun

You guys are missing out on some pretty fun tanks

[tulip steppe]

ill go down and play a t6 if someone asks me to platoon but any lower than that, the queue times get to long for me

[blissful cave]

I don’t really have a problem with queues unless it’s platoon

NA server even at not busy times like later at night it’s still under a minute for me

Like I’m about to head into a panzer IV A (tier 3) game rn and I’ll tell you honest the amount of seconds I’ll time it

[tulip steppe]

my times for low tiers are over 45secs, i always back out and get back in at 45secs regardless of tier

[blissful cave]

Way to make me look like a liar now that I’m timing it was over a minute at 1:25 still not that bad

[violet timber]

Low tier queue times depend a lot on your battle count

[tulip steppe]

tbh i haven't played <5 in so long that i would probably get chirped for playing like junk lol 8 can't even remember some of the vehicles

[blissful cave]

I just know all the tanks because I’m simply obsessed with tanks irl

[blissful cave]

Like I’ll admit some of the tanks I play are not at all fun and I only play them just because I like the tank itself like T2 Medium that tank frickn sucks but I still play it because i like the T2 medium as a tank

[blissful cave]

I wish they’d let me have the actual T2 medium turret on it
And have the actual M2 medium turret on my M2 medium :/

They put the M2 medium turret on T2 and the M8 turret on M2

[tulip steppe]

i think my old clubber was the cruiser something, the 4 shot clip with 2 shell burst

[blissful cave]

Covanenter?

[tulip steppe]

hmmm maybe i'd have to look at my old stats

[blissful cave]

Also imma be real here as much as I talk about how I love playing low tier tanks i still mainly play 8 and 10 ofc but I just say that I think all tiers are fun my tier distribution looks like this

Dang that’s actually surprising to me I feel like I’ve played a lot more games in tier 3 and stuff than that

[errant oak]

"seal clubber"

[blissful cave]

Lmao yea that’s like people’s favorite word
Okay buddy keep playing the same one tier over and over I’ll play around with whatever I’m feeling today I’m just here for fun no need to take this game too seriously or competitively

.
Glad that sandboxes lets everyone have these unique play style low tiers so now it’s actually fun to play those tiers and not just go up against the same 3 tanks over and over

[errant oak]

marder II looks nice

[blissful cave]

That’s how I got pretty much all of these tanks I’m not an old player I haven’t been here that long

[blissful cave]

Marder II is my favorite in terms of how fun the tank is easily by far (out of these low tier tanks)

[tulip steppe]

ya i had all those old low tiers but they just sat there never played for years, then i finally gave in and started to sell them for higher tiers

[blissful cave]

Because irl T-28 and M2 Medium gotta be like top 10 tanks for me so just as a tank I like those two most : )

My beloved weirdo

[tulip steppe]

i just scored a t28 again or maybe it was t82, which on3 is a td?

[blissful cave]

T82
T-28 is that massive multi turret soviet medium tank (Finland captured and used them : D

[tulip steppe]

lol oh ok i know which one, 2 big r2 units up front, what was the saucer looking on3 a-20?

[blissful cave]

Nah T-28’s hull is very unique it it doesn’t look much like an A-20

For low tiers a lot of the tech tree ones are significantly better than the collectors it’s just the collectors have fun or more unique play styles the tech trees are usually just very simple straightforward (as it should be,understandable those are the tanks that are supposed to introduce you to the game)

But then there’s some stuff like I like Panzer III A is way better than Panzer III tech tree
I think it has way better gun stats but like worse armor or something which I don’t think matters because in low tier everything pens everyone (except Matilda and panzer II J)

Or if you’re playing T82 or BT-7 artillery

I think BT-7 artillery got done dirty,other 75/76mm don’t have as big as a hindering as the Bt art has
Thing has NO pen,so little pen that if you run calibrated shells the buff makes it so that it’s HE has more pen than its standard AP it’s still barely anything though

[dapper whale]

just shoot high explosive shells to rear armour

[blissful cave]

Like panzer IV A’s drawback is a long reload
Marder SU-76 and FCM Pak 40’s is being turretless
BT-7 art? You do high damage but good luck penning anything,you’ll even struggle to pen a decent chunk of tier 2’s

[dapper whale]

bt7artillery is a tier 3 t49

[blissful cave]

If we ever get BT-42 added to the game please wargaming don’t make it a tier 5/6 BT-7 art

[dapper whale]

vk28.01 with 105mm gun is tier 6 t49

[blissful cave]

I want BT-42 more than any other tank we need our Finnish beloved

[violet timber]

I am 100% against adding the BT-42

[blissful cave]

Why🤨 would it really affect you that much

Let us Finns be happy with our one tank

[violet timber]

No, no happiness for you

[errant oak]

add TAM pls

[blissful cave]

There’s some tanks that don’t have higher tier playstyle counterparts plus machine gun tanks are only down here
Imagine if we had burst shot tanks like the T7 car (except more accurate so that this feature would be useable) I’m sure there are some good tanks that could be like “high tier machine gun tanks”

Like I know this one won’t be allowed in but just as an example like the Bradley it has a pretty strong rapid fire gun that isn’t really high caliber so tanks with guns like those could do rapid fire bursts like T7 car and Leopard (tier 5) do

[upper hearth]

ok thx :D
I'll try

[safe acorn]

TAM is a nice LT or MT for Germany

[rain rose]

Holy I did 8K by ramming in my leopard 1 in uprising it's so OP y'all gotta try it out

[errant oak]

or maybe a new branch similar to euro

[safe acorn]

but why

[ocean goblet]

Yeah, low tier are interesting, and even fun, but most people seem to ignore anything under tX

[ocean goblet]

The BT 7 artillery actually has better HE raw pen than AP (it’s 37/38 AP/HE, and the difference is even bigger if you try to shoot at long distance), I guess it’s the only tank in the game with that feature.

[valid gale]

@wary summit god it’s amazing how worse the fandoms are in AW

[wary summit]

Elaborate

[valid gale]

I just saw a no camo bvm spam missiles at an altay not knowing how to use the boost ability so he crashed his circle
And an Abram’s X didn’t know how to use his AC

Because I brawled and beat a ZTZ 20 to 1 hp triggering his Ophelia while fighting 3 others and he just stood and stared

[valid gale]

Both of them are private ofc

[wary summit]

kekw

[dusk flame]

I've got gold to burn, wonder when we will see decent tanks in the shop again...

[unreal scroll]

how often do SU-100's normally Ammorack?

[wheat cloud]

never seen one

Way more likely to just be casually popped out by a smasher/kv2/su152 than racked

[unreal scroll]

I got ammoracked so many times. Every single day, if I play any tank from the Soviet or German Tech Tree Chances are that I will get ammoracked at some point.

[wary summit]

Very often

[carmine gale]

how’s ur tank models journey?

[hybrid kraken]

i think su-76i is the most fun tier 3 td now lol

[blissful cave]

Didn’t make any recently but I do have Löwe that I can start the camo on whenever and the panther that I’ll paint as Pudel
But my next ones will be the 3 I have on the way,Pawlack Concept 1B and 114SP

Pawlack and 114SP will be small tho (1/72) and Concept 1B is 1/35 so just waiting for those

[carmine gale]

u really like the pawlack? I find it quite ugly

[blissful cave]

I LOVE the Pawlack it’s such an interesting and stupid tank

Also these 3 models are from a new place they’re way more high quality and have tons of tank options including the wargaming fakes which is how I was able to get 114SP only problems are they’re very expensive and only come in 1/72 or 1/35 (pretty small or pretty big,the average tanks I make are 1/48)

1/35 is the perfect size for model tanks it’s just for this site and the quality they’re super expensive at like 70$ so I only got one and the other 2 1/72

[carmine gale]

resinscale?

[blissful cave]

Nah just these random Chinese 3D print sellers on eBay

[carmine gale]

bananatank?

[blissful cave]

There’s a bunch of different sellers with the same tanks and same images so it’s not just one seller

[carmine gale]

I think if you wanna buy more tank you’d be better off download 3d print model and buy 3d print or hire someone to print

[blissful cave]

I have no idea how to do any of that complicated computer stuff I’ll just buy models,pay someone for a good and service that I cannot reasonably do myself

[carmine gale]

I dont think it’s that complicated, u just buy the files and send it to someone with 3d print
probably gonna be cheaper

[dusk flame]

So what do you think the business model for WG is?
People log in and see the same crap tanks for sale every day and out of boredom gamble their money away?

[echo sierra]

Tried drawing the Panzerkampfwagen V Panther

[cloud haven]

good drawing but um don't copy the flag

[safe acorn]

Ngl
I find military aircraft now to be much more weirder than tanks

[dusk flame]

is the C1B kind of a Tornvagn ripoff?

[safe acorn]

Uh no?
In the real life sense, there's no special holders to designing tanks so to each their own

[dusk flame]

I mean, they're kind of designed the same way and have the same role?

well, C1B is more agile, but still

[safe acorn]

Yeah but they're different periods and nations and Tornvagn was just made for the indigenous composite armor

Not anything meant to see full production

[dusk flame]

somehow I just don't see C1B being as specialized as the tornvagn or as "good at it's task"

[safe acorn]

Because again Tornvagn is made after C1B and under a different country

[dusk flame]

ah alright 🙂

I prefer the Swede over the Yank, for sure

[safe acorn]

For this? Knowing Tornvagn was never meant to be a thing in the end (also the ammo load out being eerily similar to a carousel type)
The yank

[dusk flame]

yeah well, maybe I just didnt have much luck with C1B ingame

did they give the Mino some of it's armor back?

didn't they nerf front hull armor like hell?

[violet timber]

Only the lower plate

[dusk flame]

so this doesn't figure from this

[blissful cave]

Concept 1B was designed first

[dusk flame]

hmm I just know I like driving the Tornvagn better than the c1b in this game

[ocean moss]

Hello, which tank should I choose? I am considering the Hori, Foch, and Obj 268. What do you all think would be the best tank out of these three? Or do you recommend something else?

[wheat cloud]

Foch is the better/funnier tank imo

[violet timber]

Overall, 268 is the best of the 3 with Ho-Ri being second. Not to say that Foch is bad, it’s just a little more situational than the other 2

[meager spindle]

i find foch to be able to work more everywhere since it can rely on poor yolo energy when needed

[dusk flame]

TS-5 any fun?

I guess it’s pretty bad

[wheat cloud]

it is

[empty plinth]

pretty mid

[wheat cloud]

The only thing it has is cartoonish levels of penetration

[dusk flame]

already have the jagdt 88, so I guess it’s stale compared to that

Heh crazy pen

[wheat cloud]

its completely useless compared yeah. day and night

[wheat cloud]

pen was better without the cali nerf, now its just redundant

[blissful cave]

Yoooo I love TS-5 absolute banger

[dusk flame]

You kidding?

[bleak ruin]

Quick question, how do you exactly play the AMX ELC BIS the t5 light tank, I can't use it as a normal light tank where you spin around hit from the back and escape cuz it has a broken neck ... Shall I play it like a td or what ?

[blissful cave]

No I genuinely really like TS-5

[tepid lily]

Also just wanted to say, the turrets look similar, but the layout is incredibly different

[true frigate]

I’m making a tank in another game based off of the VZ. 55 and the Skoda T50

[tepid lily]

Tornvagn has 3 crew members because the gun has an autoloader, by the Concept 1B shares a similar turret design to the M60A2 Starship without the large and obnoxious cupola.

[blissful cave]

Concept 1B was its own original design but I will say M60A2 turret on the T95 hull test rig looks a lot like a built concept 1B (or at least the closest thing we got)

[blissful cave]

Got two of those witches crates as a lol (the two for 500 gold) and got a T28 defender…well okay then?

Idk if I’ll keep it tho probably not

[safe acorn]

It's a pretty funky vehicle

[blissful cave]

I mean it doesn’t really have any appeal to me tbh,fictional vehicle with a fictional appearance

[safe acorn]

Technically you got the scam for 500 gold
(Since T28 Prototype on PC has the turret cover but WoTB they made it separate)

[blissful cave]

I’m excited for Friday

VICKERS MBT MK 3 BABEYYYY

[safe acorn]

Don't tell me you're actually gambling on that

[blissful cave]

Absolutely,I want that tank so bad

[safe acorn]

Isn't the crates always for real doubloons first

for the Vickers Mk 3 of all things in WoTB

[blissful cave]

Yes I think it’s a really cool tank and one of the ones I was most excited about
I need MBT-B as soon as that comes out too

[safe acorn]

Actually yeah I probably would stop spending big bucks on WoTB

Considering I really want to play the PC OG one

[blissful cave]

Kpz 70P was my most anticipated tank but I swear the system they put it in looks stupidly hard to get

But for now I’ll just worry about getting Vickers MBT

[safe acorn]

If the Vickers costs half the price in next year's auction that would be hilarious

[blissful cave]

Okay but I don’t feel like waiting a whole year

[safe acorn]

The only reason why I won't pay for WoTB's Vickers MBT

Is probably because Gaijin cut the line and it's free (maybe even AW but idk)

[blissful cave]

I can’t play wt so yea I just play this game

[safe acorn]

Best bet to just save up for a mid range laptop
Not only for WT, but WoTB works miles better

The mobile controls for this godforsaken game is something I'll never switch back to

[blissful cave]

I play on switch and prefer controllers I can’t stand keyboards no idea how to use them and I tried em and genuinely don’t know how people play games on this

[safe acorn]

Wait you have trouble with keybinds or smth?

Well whatever it is I don't think Vickers is worth the gamble

Like any on release tank

[dusk flame]

rofl, another day, another useless package

[raw ember]

😔

[wary summit]

2 coals in a package

Epic

[dusk flame]

for the low price of $45

[safe acorn]

Wait what 45 for a Tier X collector?

[raw ember]

+sausage tutel

[dusk flame]

I'm really thinking about buying back minotauru... but is it worth it? Loved the vehicle before

[safe acorn]

Nope

[dusk flame]

shame

lol the E25 is small and annoying

E 25 from a real tank?

[safe acorn]

Yeah

[dusk flame]

fun lil speed demon

[raw ember]

Very sneaky, very fast and a nasty gun, I want it so bad

[solid gate]

t95 medium project?

[solid gate]

its good, but i have to save gold for auction... maybe i will stick with cen5 for a little longer

[blissful cave]

The T95 medium tank hull
Like T95E2 and T95E6

[solid gate]

Then wg can give it the Sheridan gun or kpz70 gun but better pen and dpm

Maybe new rival of concept 1b

[blissful cave]

T95/M60A2 would be a tank I’d love to see added
Or even just regular M60A2 itself too

[solid gate]

Yes, not the chief/t95 which is trash

[blissful cave]

My most wanted tank to be brought over from pc that isn’t BT-42 or the Swedish tech trees is “AAT-60” it’s MBT (MR) Compact turret
The original tank concept where M60A2’s turret came from
It originally started as its own Tornvagn like tank with both the option for a regular 105/120 mm I forget which and a Sheridan gun

https://preview.redd.it/history-of-the-aat60-a-precursor-to-the-funny-t95-v0-sbydn8i6udwc1.png?width=394&format=png&auto=webp&s=298d64977349a05e27d32c20698b974f9cd0fbff

[solid gate]

I have some goofy ah thing from sweenden also

[blissful cave]

https://wotexpress.eu/userfls/news/medium/5385_skrinshoty-tanka-aat60-s-super.webp

I need “AAT-60” SO bad
I always like calling tanks by their real names so I’ll just keep calling it MBT (MR) compact turret but maybe I’ll just adopt the term AAT-60 since it’s shorter

[solid gate]

german vts1

[blissful cave]

Closest built thing we’ll get to Tornvagn
(Tornvagn was only blueprints)

[solid gate]

Wot pc have it tho

[blissful cave]

I’ve said it a million times but Tornvagn is my favorite tank of all time

[solid gate]

Btw the goofy sweenden tank i sent was udes's xx20

[blissful cave]

Yes
Bt 42,Strv 103,UDES 15 and AAT 60 are all tanks that pc has that I want to be brought over most

Yees goofy Tornvagn is UDES XX20

[solid gate]

I will want stb3, a stb1 version with autoloader XD

[rotund gull]

oh sh... is back but without new stuff

[solid gate]

Sweeden also have a 155mm autoloader called bkan1c, i wont try to taste it

[blissful cave]

Also idk if it’s real but Lätt stridsfordon I NEED it it basically looks like a Strv 103 made out of half a Tornvagn hull and gun

Yees ik about Bkan

[blissful cave]

I have here’s stridsfordon and then the two most similar UDES concepts I could find

It’s gotta be the 2nd just without the gun cover going out as far

[solid gate]

How about ikv91?

[blissful cave]

Yees that one light tank

Sweden and US are my favorite tank nations (like generally,not just in game their tanks interest me most)

[solid gate]

Yeah, but the sweenden line have auto ricochet armor which can be op

[blissful cave]

Yea
I don’t really think about mechanics and stats when I think about which tanks I want added most I just want the ones I love most irl like the classic Strv 103

[solid gate]

Udes 19

[solid gate]

In the past there was a tank i dream about if i can play a mbt game, idk i just remember it named strv2000

[violet timber]

Chief/T95 is great lmao

[solid gate]

Maybe for me lmao

[hybrid kraken]

they be making tanks with more and more skinny turrets

[blissful cave]

Peak design

[safe acorn]

Have ya heard?

[blissful cave]

Stryker? Yea

[violet timber]

M1128 MGS “Stryker” my beloved

[safe acorn]

That and the AGS
Both technically served the same purpose

[safe acorn]

T95E3 would be a nice Tier IX considering it's the E6 but with a manual version of the T140 found on the T54E1/2

That and WoT Modern Armor has it

[dusk flame]

Where about does GSOR stand as t8 td?

[solid gate]

Its kinda hard to classify mid or good

[true frigate]

Things I’d love to see in blitz high tier autocannons, wheeled tanks, and I’d love for a Godzilla event where you can get the mazer tank shown here

[valid gale]

They are the exact same purpose Stryker sucked at the role

[blissful cave]

Unleash the Centurion Tornvagn

[lime patio]

Terrible tank design ngl

[violet timber]

Not really

[blissful cave]

Why waste armor and weight armoring a turret when there could simply just be no turret to hit

Well this idea isn’t applied to centurion ofc
But tanks like Tornvagn where they can make the hull have very good protection

Keep the crew safe down in the hull and have the armament up top and be able to position yourself behind something or hull down to have just the gun out

[toxic pawn]

i always loved the T-10M because it was the most perfected heavy tank ever to enter mass production, and i liked the bmp because of its simplicity and the misssile launcher that looks cool and then there is THIS

[dusk flame]

that's a pretty tonk

[toxic pawn]

hell yeah

its a shame that the t-10 in wot doesnt get much love bc its nerfed to the ground by wg for no reason - it had comparable armor to the is-7 and a far better gun in the M version

[violet timber]

It never had comparable armor to the IS-7 lmao

It’s also fine in game, it just doesn’t get love because it requires skill to use

[tepid lily]

So a T-10M with a Malyutka ATGM launcher and no KPV machine gun

idk if the trade off is worth it imo, the KPVT is literally the perfect HMG to exist and there isn't anything to match it

[silver trellis]

what does it say?

[silver trellis]

I don't think real tankers who operated on such crude un-ergonomic machines will agree with you

Is-3 was a complete disaster for those who operated them, and T-10 was just irrelevant in the age of MBTs

on paper the stats sounded good, but who knows how far from truth they were, as soviets tended to exaggerate couple of numbers just to make the west scared

the legacy continues on up to today, but I won't mention any further, because we will enter the area of politics

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139259416521212152/1290253785360502787/stare.gif

[tepid lily]

well imo they were relevant up until the late 1950s early 1960s when America M47s and M48s were equipped with rounds like HEAT-FS and
munitions.

[silver trellis]

what about optics? Reload speeds? Mobility? Crew comfort and combat effectiveness? All these areas american tanks excelled and remained as versatile tanks of the time

it's never just about gun caliber. Big guns don't mean anything if everything else lackluster

[violet timber]

Ummmm not really, American tanks weren’t really that good either, they just had more room on the inside. All the funding was put towards projects that would have been the best tank in the world, but all fell through

[silver trellis]

It wasn't flawless, but for the time it was excellent for its roles and capacities. I rather drive what was combat proven than trust a word of tovarish general offering me to have a ride on a slow steel coffin.

But you guys choose as you like! It's game after all, we are just scratching on history

[fair yew]

-Soviet Optics were plenty good and easily on par
-of course reload speed was worse, but reload of tanks in actual combat is largely irrelevant.
-mobility was plenty good for what it was, most compartive "medium" tanks were barely faster.
-crew comfort was good enough, and it performed well enough in combat when it was used.

What killed it was the fact being heavy tremendously limited strategic mobility.

[valid gale]

M60 and M48 were pretty bad in this area actually

[violet timber]

Soviet optics actually weren’t that good, it’s quite notable in fact. And the reliability in combat was what really killed it, with the tanks not always being where the infantry needed them to be

[valid gale]

The T10 could out spot , range , target the conquerer even when it was upgraded to mk2

M60 for a while suffered from overal inadequacy

[violet timber]

M60 suffering until RISE

[fair yew]

Soviet fire control in their vehicles were bad, the optics themselves were fine.

[valid gale]

Before electronics they had better optics

[silver trellis]

Are you sure? Weren't T-10's optics offering less magnification and clarity over american tank's sights?

[valid gale]

As mentioned T10 could outrange and outspot the conquerer even
American optics let alone guns we’re inconsistent in quality and performance

Almost ALL domestic guns the US were developing ended up being dropped and the US had to use the L7 in order to have an upgrade pressed into service rapidly

The soviets never could catch up in electronic optics will until their collapse

They wouldn’t start producing a worthwhile electronic sight until this decade

[silver trellis]

I am still very skeptical regarding reliability of soviet & russian claims about their military machines and equipment, inflated by propaganda

[violet timber]

Out ranging and out spotting a conqueror is something I’m rather skeptical on

[valid gale]

This was a heated argument a while ago in tank encyclopedia

But I saw the comparison and old papers T10 indeed had more range than conq

[violet timber]

T-10M or an earlier variant?

Because afaik T-10 would’ve needed a HEAT round to have more effective range than the conq, and I don’t believe they got HEAT rounds till the T-10M

[silver trellis]

Wait, just reading this through, how T10 could outspot , range , target the conqueror mk2 when it didn't have sight stabilisers & none of sophisticated fire control systems? Not to mention rangefinding capacities... T10 gunner had to do manual work for that

[fair yew]

Dude what

[silver trellis]

you asking me what those mean or questioning whenever it had sophisticated fire control system and advanced rangefinder capacities?

[fair yew]

"Inflated by propaganda" 😆🤦‍♂️

"This russian tank drives"
"Nope thats russian propaganda, it doesn't start at all"

[silver trellis]

I see you have some problems interpreting arguments, or maybe it's a language barrier. I can always help you!

[fair yew]

I have problems with people who make absurd claims based solely on their own conjecture.

How you believe that the country that had a demonstrable history of designing and producing successful heavy tanks, was somehow incompetent in that field is beyond me.

[safe acorn]

Successful heavy tanks is a stretch
Like the heavy tank doctrine lasted that long to begin with

[silver trellis]

I mean, if you don't see it a problem with censored media saying "ohh, our guns are better than westerners" or that "our machines are faster / stronger / no analogues in western armies..."

sorry, that's just straight up being delusional. You can state having some form of competitive edge, but yapping straight out their superiority over everyone else, while concealing the shortcomings and other important aspects that make up effectiveness is straight up comical

It's a difficult topic, but USSR and its successor in form of Russia has proven numerous times of exaggerating the capacities and combat effectiveness of their forces in many fields. After all it was informational war

[safe acorn]

I only think the KV units and the T-10M (which is literally the best they could've done at that point) are the main selling points for the USSRs heavy tank doctrine

[fair yew]

its not really a stretch.

[fair yew]

Lots of hot air, little substance.
Like I said, all I see is your own superstition.

[silver trellis]

Okay, tell me where I am wrong. I prefer elaborate answers instead of comical examples and interpretations

[fair yew]

KV-1
KV-1s
IS-2
IS-3 (lesser so)
T-10

This isnt even counting the plethora of advanced prototypes produced.

[fair yew]

you literally just made massive sweeping assumptions based upon your own conjecture with next to no context or nuance. you hardly even made a claim.

[safe acorn]

Advanced prototypes

All either faced multitudes of issues or were cancelled because they couldn't fit the changing bill

[violet timber]

Like most nations at the time tbh

[silver trellis]

I can tell you barely even read my claims. I mention how USSR likes to position their tech as superior to westerners in 1 way or multiple ways.

Did I even question they can produce tanks that are tanks and that can hold up a shot? I didn't, and I accept that they may have a use. But I question how straight up superior they are to western tank counterparts

Also, your answer was not elaborate, you failed my request

[fair yew]

Given more of these saw the daylight than their competitors, I would say it was rather successful.

[silver trellis]

Could not expect more from you, so I am not disappointed in you

man wants to compare crude tanks of WW2 to a complete another technology era, brilliant

[safe acorn]

I don't think being made with multitudes of issues is considered (successful)

That is a borderline Boeing mindset

[fair yew]

Ive literally seen not a single example of a soviet source claiming "absolute superiority" to "western technology", at best ive seen revisionist history, but ive yet to see actual propaganda that makes the claims you say they made.
On the contrary it appears as if you are spouting post cold war propaganda.

[fair yew]

The matter of fact is that successful prototypes were produced, in turn successful production tanks were made, consistent with previous heavy tank development.

[safe acorn]

prototypes were produced
Unless you call IS-6 literally catching fire a success then no

[fair yew]

And did this vehicle see production? No
Thats quite literally why its a prototype, I dont see why this concept eludes you.

[safe acorn]

So youre backtracking on the successful prototypes statement

[fair yew]

No I am not, I said successful prototypes were produced, and indeed they were.

I could just as easily cherrypick a couple of unsuccessful American & French prototypes and attempt to superimpose that onto all American & French vehicles, but that would be misconstruing the reality of the situation.

[silver trellis]

Good claim you made, about being a revisionist history, when you miss out on

• military parades and exhibitions, where they put a hard emphasis on military power, a
• speeches and media coverages.
• old defense military publications where they compare, for example, T-72's capacities and how it is superior to leopard and m60
• and warsaw pact exercises, as an example where they showcased T-80 and depicking its superior combat effectiveness

Sadly we get to know about these aspects only from analysis and historians, and we are often presented by digested information. I would love to take a book / poster / old soviet archive video ment for public and point out to you exactly how and in what they were wanted to emphasise to a world that they are better than others. But you seem to lack this misunderstanding.

But you can start with claim such as T-34 being the "best tank of ww2". The simplest and clear claim we like to advertise, and to put an extra emphasis being the victors of ww2

I grew half of my life under russian media coverage and I know for a fact they like to depick themselves as being better than westerners (and later - NATO) starting from WW2

Do you even speak Russian by any chance?

And like I said, their tech is capable but claiming being outright better is a questionable statement that was evaluated later in wars, especially when it came to man-losses. Something that westerners don't have to be ashamed of

[fair yew]

I hate to inform you, but Russia is not exactly the same beast as the USSR.

Soviet propaganda had a different focus, and it wasnt really centered around the concept of military might, rather it attempted to juxtapose themselves as defenders against such military might.

[fair yew]

Sure parades are exhibitions of military strength, but they are not claims as to the comparative degree of military superiority
Similarly such speeches or coverage on individual military vehicles is lacking, or non-existent.

Similarly the idea of comparing the advantages of the T-72 to the leopard & m60 as a public article simply wasn't a thing to my knowledge, as for the first part that was military intelligence that would have remained in the upper circles of command.
Finally as for military exercises, I don't really think those are relevant In a technological comparison as wargames are primarily strategic demonstrations of military competency.

[solid gate]

in the right hand it still useful, during Six days war, Israeli m48 battalion have a battle with a group of Egyptian IS-3, during that time HEAT-FS is not too popular and rarely use, US army just upgunned them to 105mm later rather than keep the 90mm gun , so the is-3 blocked many 90mm shells and eliminated many israeli tanks until they be able to flank them, also is3 and t54 are the reason why 105mm guns appear later, so is3 still workable

[patent prism]

Guys does the Dracula take module damage and how fast do the tracks repair?

[wary summit]

Yes and usually 1 second

[blissful cave]

I got completely ripped off by that Halloween offer I got helsing I don’t need any more credits (T_T)

[tepid lily]

Absolutely true. HEAT-FS wasn't as common as people believe it to be. Most tanks fielded AP rounds or subcaliber rounds and this was somthing that you'll see during conflicts in the Middle East through out the Cold War. The IS-3 as you have said proved its worth as it's armor was still relevant even into the 60s because of what the opposing forces were fielding at the time.

[solid gate]

yes, unluckily most Arabian tankers have low skill and experience so even with better weapon they still cant beat israel, arabian that time have t54/55 while besides m48(90mm) and israel still use the m51 which is a variant of sherman (which having 105mm gun and inspired by the m4 rev that you can see in wotb), they still able to beat the Arabs heavily

[violet timber]

To clear this up, the IS-3 was good when it worked. The biggest issue it had was terrible engine problems, especially in the desert, resorting to a lot of them just being converted into bunkers instead of being used as breakthrough tanks

[solid gate]

is was one of the first thing ussr make at the last days of ww2, it was planned to work in EU not desert, so thats understandable, atleast they solved it in t54/55

[violet timber]

There is very little performance data to say that the IS-3 was anything more than good propaganda value

[violet timber]

Even in its intended role the IS-3 struggled

[solid gate]

it worked perfectly in propaganda, and did you read the is3 vs m48 battle?, it proved itself a bit there, it not completely useless

[solid gate]

at that time the british still using centurion mk1 and 3, while US still using 90mm gun, is3 will struggle when bringing something more advanced than the early coldwar tanks

[violet timber]

It did very okay vs M48s, it was rather inconsistent tbh

[violet timber]

It was more so the fact that they barely ran at all. Most IS-3s struggled heavily with engine problems

It was a massive propaganda piece that is still working to this day, with some people still praising it as a beast of a tank when in reality it wasn’t even a finished product

[solid gate]

not much in EU where the weather was clean, also still far better than german transmission

[violet timber]

Uhhhh no, it did struggle in Europe as well, and was arguably just as bad as German transmissions lmao

It was a piece that was rushed out for V-Day parade, got a few upgrades, but never all the upgrades it needed since T-10 was in the works soon after

[solid gate]

we dont know exact information of it, but i know is3 have some problems also, but idk if their transmission broke down after few KM, base on it ussr made some better stuff like is4 and is7 and t10

[violet timber]

We do have information on it, it was operated in Europe lmao

[solid gate]

"suffering from flexing and cracking of the hull welds, road wheels ball bearings that wore out prematurely, forcing the Soviets to upgrade and modernize the tank several times during its service life" yes agree, but compare to german trasmission still a little bit too far? atleast it not underpowered

[violet timber]

The main issue is with the engine itself, something which routinely had issues as I’ve been saying

[solid gate]

okay

[toxic pawn]

actually they always made the numbers lower than they were in reality,because the politics were to give the tanker a happy suprise when shooting at something

[toxic pawn]

and the t-10m was the most ergonomical soviet tankin history

[tepid lily]

to be fair you will see this with tanks made for certain conditions, and the problem is made even worse the heavier the tank due to the strain it puts on the drivetrain

The IS-3 was intended to operate in the much cooler European plains and forests where it is a lot less dusty and sandy

Tiger 1s also suffered a lot in North Africa for similar reasons

[violet timber]

IS-3 engines also suffered in Europe…

[safe acorn]

In other words
IS-3 was/is a bad vehicle (not a success)

Neither was their heavy tank development programmes
Most were paper, some prototypes, but few actually saw above 500 or even 1000 units in production

[dusk flame]

are these tanks decent and is the price okay?

[wary summit]

TS is rather meh, CDA 105 is just an armored Kanonen with more HEAT pen

[dusk flame]

alright, thanks, I'll let it fly

I don't ever think I've seen the CDA 105 in a game

The Action X meh?

[dusk flame]

it seems a little meh

[plucky summit]

I say it's a nice tank. Great DPM if you can play aggressively

[dusk flame]

not my thing 🙂

Imagine getting an Alpha Pred certificate and pulling a 268/4

It's WG's favourite troll tank

it's when they need to give you a t10 tank and they really don't want to give you anything 😅

calling the 268/4 an Alpha Predator surely is a very wide stretch

[safe acorn]

I'd take the 268/4 because I doubt I'll even get the XM66F

[dusk flame]

I have the XM66F

Guess I got lucky

[safe acorn]

Big alpha type tanks?

[dusk flame]

Nja, more like personal feeling how it drives and handles

[safe acorn]

It's got one of the better turret armor out there for Tier VIII HTs
Gun is more than alright despite the low alpha
Mobility ain't too bad

[dusk flame]

I duno, there are so many t8 heavies

I'll give it another shot

[wary loom]

Tanks with minimal alpha are irrelevant imo

[wheat cloud]

well that sounds like big skill issues ngl a lot of low alpha tanks are really good in a variety of spots

[dusk flame]

shots were fired

[wheat cloud]

shark has low alpha for its class and tier and is widely spread in pubs, rankeds and tourney

Ax is overplayed in all modes except tourneys in which its often too niche, especially fun modes,

defender mk1 is one of the best meds in the game, dingo isn't bad too, very powerful

pgt 46 has somewhat low alpha, even though its a fake clipper

[wary loom]

Nah 190 alpha is dumb

Muh, look I got 4k dpm
Great, can you make use of it in reality?

[wheat cloud]

Literally yes lmao

[wary loom]

Yeah thats why everyone plays Fv201 A45 and Jagdtigrr right

[dusk flame]

big number syndrome, I guess

[wheat cloud]

8,8 is super popular. a45 too. weird examples

Jagtiger 8,8 is super fun, it will literally brawl ANY tier 8 heavy and melt through

if that's not your favoured playstyle its fine, i agree the meta boils down to hulldown, but calling low alpha tanks irrelevant is just not true

[solid gate]

8.8 or 2015 model?

[wheat cloud]

aren't they exactly the same thing 1:1?

[solid gate]

2015 model have 105mm gun like elephant, beside the 8.8

[wary loom]

I mean Jag T9. What's super popular is Smasher at T7, not Fv201

[wheat cloud]

They're both popular lmao. among the most played t7 are the comet, black prince, dracula and fv201

[dusk flame]

Smasher is just an abomination that shouldn't be

[wheat cloud]

Smasher has the fun factor of haha big number and the power, which isn't that ok ngl

[solid gate]

Anihilator even tho got nerf still dangerous

[wary loom]

Shark got 310 Alpha at T8. I wouldn't consider that minimal. Defender Mk1 has 2 sec. intraclip with 4 shells, resulting in 450-500 dmg if he hits 3 shots. I wouldn't consider that to be a low alpha tank. Same applies to progetto 46, it's an autoloader. These are bad examples

[dusk flame]

I really think the T54E2 is extremely boring to play. What is it? 8-9 secs reload for 300 dmg?

meanwhile mediums and french auto loaders/magazine tanks circle you and boom

[wheat cloud]

Its a tank for sweaters

[wheat cloud]

shark has half the alpha of a good old 53tp with tungstene or t77. sheriff is also super good and slept on and its got low alpha

I remember when strvk was the king of tierX they really went ham on the nerf

[dusk flame]

I love my T26E5

[wheat cloud]

people love their small alpha small reload tanks

[dusk flame]

XM66F for comparison

[wary loom]

Thats normal for T8, Tiger got similar

[dusk flame]

a 183 player would be like meh if he saw those xm66f numbers

[wary loom]

400 alpha isn't minimal, it's the default

[wheat cloud]

Different sites will give you different stats. Also you're forgetting about tech tree bias lmao

[dusk flame]

and that's fine, I must say I prefer Charlemagne then. I think it's more... adaptable

[wary loom]

Stats are still underwhelming

[dusk flame]

is the Sheridan alright or should I just stop at the T92E1?

[wary loom]

310 for T8 is okayish. However stuff like 150 or 190... bro go away

[wary summit]

Funny how 83.4mm deals 190 while 80mm deals 210

[wheat cloud]

aX and t26 are the only two super low alpha t8 heavies and they're played and strong

[wary loom]

Didn't see T26E5 for a while. Doesn't it have 240?

I mean it may be fine as long as it has the mobility to make use of it

[wary summit]

AP standard and traverse buff 🤞

[hybrid kraken]

well, some 152mm deals 560 while some deals 690

[wary summit]

Alpha to calibre dmg consistency was fun

But it kinda invalidates some tanks unfortunately so it's a double-edged sword

[icy wadi]

yeah it indeed is boring

[tepid axle]

so its not worth keeping?

[dusk flame]

It's a stabile, generic tank that gets the job done

it has everything going for it stats wise. it's just very plain

[tepid axle]

if its plain then nah, i prefer fast tanks

[dusk flame]

you're way better off with Bisonte or T77

and many tech tree t8 heavies

[sullen abyss]

T77 gun gives me small seizures everytime the shell trolls me even when I’m fully aimed

But it’s a solid tank

[dusk flame]

Yeah it does that sometimes, but it's still considered a top t8 heavy

[sullen abyss]

I still think it’s crazy it gets 10 deg dep

[hybrid kraken]

t-49 with 10 degree gun dep and 560 alpha go brr

[dusk flame]

it is indeed a joy to play the US light line, but it's hardly comparable to heavies 🙂

[solid gate]

Yes, even better if it was t49 fearless (dpm buff)

[zenith shadow]

Might not be fast but i truly recommend vk100.01P for a really good tier 8

[toxic pawn]

check this out

the leopard72

[violet timber]

Not a real image

[solid gate]

T34 with t54 turret

Or tenk tip-a, a Yugoslavia t34-85 with -10 depression?

[dusk flame]

worth it?

5k with everything seems like awfully little for a t8 with everything + extras

but that price prolly means it's meh

[solid gate]

Its mid, want something decent ? Later, not this, i rather get m6a2e1 exp that it

[dusk flame]

aight thaks. I wonder why it's always poo tanks they offer like this

[solid gate]

Bad tanks = nobody play = cheap
Wg will still try take ur gold, and trick newbies to buy it, also they have to make sure no tank is dead so they can get more money

[dusk flame]

you got a point there

[solid gate]

Now read it again, just give more reasons

[dusk flame]

I did and yes

Well, done for today with tanks... just waiting for November 1st so we can finally see mk.3 and get a new battlepass.... Onto trying RDR for PC... if I should get my money back or not

[keen wyvern]

Opinions on the m5 yoh

[solid gate]

Good, get the 120mm for fast dmg shocking, the 105mm seems weak

[keen wyvern]

Yeah I thought the 3 shot was better for dpm but I almost never get 3 hits in

[solid gate]

Get 900 dmg for 2 shells but fast and dont miss opportunity rather than 900dmg but can only hit 1 or 2 shots

[keen wyvern]

I've been wondering if I should go with refined gun or vertical stabilizer, I dont really see the point of a bit better dispersion at 100m so I think I should go for aim time even if it's 0.3s

[solid gate]

Refined work when u stop moving, it can be use on ht with good armor because they can expose longer to aim, vetical work when u moving

[keen wyvern]

Huh, I see now. Good thing I asked before spending the coin

Got any tips or something?

[blissful cave]

Yea it’s official I’m certain T95E2 is no longer a pop up offer

[solid gate]

@keen wyvern refined gun generally.

Some tanks with amazing dispersion like obj 907 v stabs can work

[violet timber]

Vstabs is still better on most tanks

[dusk flame]

I've never seen it

[fair yew]

Wasnt it basically the same engine that was in almost every other russian tank up until then? Including the T-34 & IS-2?

[violet timber]

It was a different variant that struggled heavily because it was never properly tested

Oh, my b, it was the variant used on the KV-1 and KV-2, both also notorious for having engine issues. Strange how that works.

Or it was used in the previous IS and IS-2? I’m getting conflicting information

All I know is that the engine had problems relatively often in it, leading to a lack of overall reliability

[fair yew]

I think it was a new variants derived from the previous KV/IS variant of the engine.

[fair yew]

Are their any more specifics?

[violet timber]

It’s been a few years since I did my research project on it, but there’s a very good paper I remember reading that talked about the engine details more in depth, I’ll see if I can find it again

[fair yew]

I imagine it went something like this:
"Comrade Alexey, I have found way to cut engine cost and production time by 25%!"
"Yes, very good comrade ivan, making the piston heads & rods out of zinc alloy instead of iron is an excellent way to cut costs"

[violet timber]

The whole tank just suffered because the Soviet’s wanted it in time for V-Day so they could use it as a show of force

[fair yew]

Yeah, they really overcomplicated what should have been a simple IS-2 with upgraded armour protection.

[keen wyvern]

Yeah but I don't often get into sub 100m fights unless it's close to the end

[violet timber]

The story of a lot of tanks both during and after WW2 unfortunately

[bleak ruin]

How are you supposed to play this tank? Weapon penetration so weak I can’t even penetrate another leopard. Empty a clip from behind or side and run ?

[valid gale]

@wary summit

[solid gate]

Fight tanks with low armor or get behind them, this tank have very low pen but great damage and speed.If you are new better go for heavy tanks that are easier to play or for that vk 30.01 D, panters are great mediums.

[bleak ruin]

I’m going for the E50M I believe and I gotta go through that anyway …

[solid gate]

that or Leopard

[bleak ruin]

I need leopard to access the light or medium tanks I want. It just took me 2 minutes to kill 2 kv1 I think without using armor pen bullets cuz if I fire 2 rounds that’s like 20k credits lol

[solid gate]

i mean Leopard 1 ( tier 10) but yeah kv1 is pain for leopard to kill (try shooting it in the side of the turret)

[bleak ruin]

As you can see, I somehow managed to run. i used couple penetration rounds and look at the profit. Struggles of a f2p

[solid gate]

1500 dmg is very good for leopard, will get easier once you get tier 6 with normal gun

[bleak ruin]

With the profit I make, maybe in a week 😂 + I got tired of using the grizzly. Tried chaffee, hellcat, amx line, many others but I didn’t like the heavy or td playstyle.
Medium / light with mobility is my playstyle

[solid gate]

tier 6 and up get extra credits for medals in battle

[bleak ruin]

Yeah but, I need 2m before that. 1m+ for equipment which starts at 100 each and I need 9. The ammo / provisions or whatever and 900k for the tank itself. I did it before but using grizzly for like 2 days on a row till I got tired of the account at that point

[solid gate]

you only need first equipment for better pen, all others slots are waste on low tiers

[bleak ruin]

Forcing p2w by making normal tanks give 0 credit and if you don’t have premium. Even worse …

[solid gate]

it get better when you get all tanks to tier 6+

start of the game sucks for sure with how little credits you make

[bleak ruin]

I’m enjoying it for a bit using the fun tanks and getting the 32k xp then I gotta grind like 100 games of grizzly …

[solid gate]

You can sell it for 300k to help buying tier 6, if you do well on tier 6 ( get medals/mastery) you will get more credits than playing grizzly

[bleak ruin]

Oh I see, should I go for the medium first tho ? Or light

[solid gate]

medium, e50m is one of the best medium tank right now

got buffed last update i think, it got stupid strong armor for medium tank

[bleak ruin]

I guess I’ll farm like a slave 😂, and just lost 15k in a game … love it already.
I honestly can donate as much as I want but I wanna experience the f2p gameplay first
If I feel like there’s a huge gap in f2p vs p2w I’ll just leave

[solid gate]

you shouldn't lose any credits, don't use expensive ammo when you are broke

and ther is no real p2w, high pen ammo do less damage, low pen ammo do more dmg so its balanced

@bleak ruin once you get a tier 8 premium or collector with credit cofiecency makes getting credits easier

Purple credit boosters and premium day help with that even more

You can get tier 8s in events for free you don't have to pay, some premiums earn more credits than others keep in mind, hopefully you will get a good one.

[bleak ruin]

Hopefully, I’m honestly enjoying it but if I get super lucky with a flank, lots of kills I may make 20k… and I get like 100 pops a day about premium tanks 😂 it’s fun still

[solid gate]

Lmaooo yup wg always trying to sell stuff, good your having fun tho. I've been playing for years and I don't always grind new tanks so it's easier for me as I have tons of credit boosters and premium time ready for grinding @bleak ruin

I recommend going for a heavy tank as your first t10 like 60tp or e100 , etc. Heavies are easier to play compared to the other classes.

[bleak ruin]

I already talked to the people in the blitz chat, Heavy is not my playstyle at all. I was never a tank main in fps mmo or mmorpg.
I went for med/light with mobility. I know it’ll be a hard grind but I’m improving the hard way

[solid gate]

e50m got both, moblilty and heavy like armor

[bleak ruin]

Got the xp, now I’ll grind grizzly till I have 1.3m

1 day left in premium so gotta do it as soon as possible :/

Btw, if let’s say I wanna donate around 30 euros. What should I get ? Premium and a tank or just gold ?

[solid gate]

you can get both premium time + tank packs with discount for gold

[safe acorn]

Might be something wrong with this KV-2

[blissful cave]

BT-KV-2? Only a matter of time until they’d try that
(Christie suspension)

[quasi palm]

Ran into this tank earlier today in a KV-1 and couldn't penetrate it, even though it has weak armor in the tech tree statistics

[violet timber]

Dawg I can’t even tell what that is, why does your phone take photos in 20p?

[safe acorn]

This is from a stupid Choo Choo Charles brainrot vid btw

[quasi palm]

Shaky screen, it's one of the European tanks
I'm using a different device to play on

[safe acorn]

Average SCP-096 sighting footage be like

[violet timber]

One of the European tanks, very descriptive

[quasi palm]

Semovente M41 Italian tank

[violet timber]

Yeah it's red because you're using the stock gun which has horrendous penetration

[quasi palm]

What tanks are best for beginners?
I've been grinding tank destroyers and now Soviet heavy tanks

[solid gate]

no, not a tier 7 premium, pls no

[solid gate]

what nation?

[quasi palm]

I've been grinding the American, German and Soviet tanks the most, and British tank destroyers because they have better armor

[safe acorn]

British casemates aren't worth it

[solid gate]

american: m48, e4, e5
ussr: t62a, obj268, obj263, maybe is7 and is4 but they got some goofy problems rn
german: e50m, e100, jpze100
british: ehhh no they are not easy to play and goofy as hell

[quasi palm]

They have the best armor at my current tier, AT 2 has 200mm front armor which most tanks I have can't penetrate

[safe acorn]

You're gonna lose all of those aspects for what you're working for

[valid gale]

Tech tree statistics are false

[plucky summit]

Not necessarily false, but far too over-generalized

[wary summit]

Casuals or Shockwaves?

[valid gale]

PvP bot match

[wary summit]

xd

Map?

[valid gale]

Roughneck

[tepid axle]

grinding stb 1 rn, how do i play the type 61??? like its stats are so bad how do i play it

[dapper whale]

who here agrees m46 patton and e50 need gun buffs?

[dapper whale]

use calibrated shells for kv1 and you can penetrate semovente m41 more easily

[robust orchid]

Play it like the Leopard, it's got no armor and less mobility than either the Leopard or STB

[cold depot]

Btw the american e3 probably has the strongest frontal armor profile, only the lower plate is a weakspot

[tepid axle]

type 61 cant be as bad as the pta right?

[robust orchid]

Not at all it's worse

[wary summit]

Atleast you have the pen and gun depression to work it

[meager spindle]

type 61 is like one of the best T9 med's tho 🗿

[fast glade]

real

[raw ember]

Yea fr
324mm of ap on a t9
And only loses 10 dmg when loading gold

[rigid maple]

Can someone tell what's the good replacement for the tiger 2? Having a hard time learning it plus damaging my credit soon enough I'll be forced to sell it to get another one.

[safe acorn]

53TP

[rigid maple]

I was thinking of buying the panther heading to e50

[safe acorn]

Panther 1/2 is pretty alright

[rigid maple]

If i sell the tiger i could buy it i already brought it with free exp

[safe acorn]

Ngl is the Tiger II really that bad now?
Didn't really have a problem with it a year ago, and it didnt have much changes since then

[rigid maple]

I might be using them in a bad way that's why i have so many defeats

[safe acorn]

Nuh nuh
Tiger II doesn't seem to have the armor it did before when I played it
Forgot a few tanks got buffed in the mean time

[rigid maple]

I see

[tepid axle]

this sounds like a great tank, with only the best of intentions! what could possibly go wrong!?

[dusk flame]

Do we get anything today, like new battlepas, tanks etc - or do we have to wait for tomorrow?

[robust orchid]

Agreeable, a slight misangle would leave you vulnerable to almost anything with above 200mm of penetration

[robust orchid]

With Calibrated Shells, but it doesn't really matter if you might as well have paper mache for armor

[tepid axle]

i wanna cry the mobility andhe big cupola on the type 61 is so bad

i have 180k free xp and 15k xp on the type 61, pls end my suffering soon

[robust orchid]

You'll suffer less in the STB, it exchanges the vulnerable turret for

Lesser penetration

[tepid axle]

sounds amazing

@robust orchid soo wan join a 3v3 tour? (i need 1 more person and i lack friends for said person)

[sinful lark]

I have a question

I can't post a question

[eternal vector]

whats currently the most broken tier 10 tech tree tank?

when was the last time the E-50m got nerfed?

[safe acorn]

Never did

[bleak ruin]

Which should I go for first ? I mean which one is better to use in t6. I’ll eventually get the e50m and the tier 10 light. ( asking about which t6 is better )

[wary summit]

Roughly back in 9.1-ish when it received APCR shells as standard and 10 alpha reduction and some dispersion nerf followed with another minor dispersion nerf in 10.3

[icy wadi]

vk28 is significantly better but you should go through vk30 because it leads to e50m

[bleak ruin]

But is vk30 any good ? I’m so tired of grizzly I’m thinking of selling it so I never use again.

I played over 600 games on it in like 10 days …

[icy wadi]

vk30 is okay

[bleak ruin]

I’ll go for it I guess, ty again my french dude ( I think )

Oh forgot to ask, is leopard 1 good ? Lol

[rigid maple]

Is panzer 58 good for t8 and medium tank

[violet timber]

Yes

[rigid maple]

I got it on watching the tournament loot box's

[bleak ruin]

If I understood correctly, first gun is similar to any other light / med 160 dps with good pen and second is similar to leopard with insane damage and low pen right ?

[true frigate]

Are you new?

[bleak ruin]

Ye, but I got used to leopard 0 pen playstyle

Not my first account, but I’m wondering if I should swap between both for fun or stick to normal one

[true frigate]

Click this for more stats

[bleak ruin]

Yeah I saw, but I’m asking which gun people use. The 150pen with 160 damage or the 65pen with like 300+ damage

[true frigate]

Honestly the 7,5/5,5 cm is much better

[bleak ruin]

Which one is that ? I don’t have the game open

[true frigate]

Ther tier 7 gun

[bleak ruin]

Okay thank you man ! I’ll use the other for having fun haha

[true frigate]

When it come to the tech tree I have almost all tanks

[bleak ruin]

@true frigate could you help me in private for a few minutes if you’re free ?

[wary loom]

What is T62A good for in this meta? it feels so sluggish, I rather drive obj 140

Bought T62 a few years ago, left it on a few matches cuz gameplay was soo boring

[violet timber]

It’s a good all rounder

[safe acorn]

Glad whoever made the Charioteer or the last of the cruisers got fired or smth

-3kmh is not the way to go

[bleak ruin]

If you gonna grind all day using a t6 only with decent credit farm not rng, which line should I go for ? I mean the one with better tanks.
Medium or light ?

Cuz vk 30.01 looks so average …

[dusk flame]

2D anime panzers...

[true frigate]

Sure with what

[bleak ruin]

Tanks 😂

[dusk flame]

they better have something good in store for tomorrow...

[wary loom]

yeah I guess

Played one battle in Obj 140
Feels soo much better

[hollow lotus]

Titan 54D or T54E2 for my first premium tank?

[blissful cave]

T54E2

[hollow lotus]

I find it more fun as a medium though (mostly play stb1). Can the t54e2 be played like a medium?

[blissful cave]

Like a heavy medium yea

[violet timber]

54E2 is an all rounder, there’s nothing it really struggles with. It’s a little on the sluggish side but doesn’t really struggle to get into position

[blissful cave]

Irl I’m unsure if it’s actually a medium or a heavy
To me any tank that uses the M48 Patton hull is a medium tank despite the US considering come of their M48 based tanks as heavies when the M48 is a medium
I think T54E2 is one of those they consider a heavy

Yea googling it T54E2 seems to be around the same weight as an M48 Patton so idk why they do that I’m pretty sure it has to do with T54E2 being a 120mm “heavy gun tank” or whatever

I may not remember exactly the timeline but idk if T54E2 was before or after M48’s got 105’s but I think T54E2 came before that

[violet timber]

It came before

[blissful cave]

Yea so then 120mm would’ve been a much more significant upgrade from 90

[violet timber]

54E2 was made with a 105

[quasi palm]

How do I use the Panzer IV D? I'm trying to get to the next German medium tank and the Panzer IV D performs really bad

[bleak ruin]

You should’ve seen kv 30.01 even worse

[lyric oriole]

it's one of the better tier 4 tanks so try to revaluate how you are using it, you should be targeting other mediums and the gun is strong enough to deal with heavies as well, don't be playing long range with it

[quasi palm]

That's what I do,I go after medium tanks mostly at close range

[potent night]

definitely not the Leo 1 line if you're new

[bleak ruin]

I went for the kv 30 and it was my biggest regret in this game so far

[blissful cave]

Oh wait i remembered that wrong yea you’re right it was 105

[hushed plover]

Kv30? U mean VK 30 right?

[blissful cave]

KV-30

Imagining KV-6 but the size of the Ratte

[short sluice]

For a newbie, e100 or the jg plz e 100?

[wheat cloud]

E100

[short sluice]

Ok

Thank you

[wind ginkgo]

what td should i go for? Foch, fv215b 183 or t110e3, e4 or obj 263. Thanks

[wheat cloud]

what do you seek, dear romanian spy

[wind ginkgo]

what td is the best to go for

[wind ginkgo]

i do like some good armor on the tank

[wheat cloud]

e3/e4 have the best armour i think. 215b can do too but you need to make it work

[lyric oriole]

E4 has terrible armor

[fiery grotto]

I believe in T30 supremacy

[blissful cave]

Same
For me the line ends there T30 is peak

And T110E4 isn’t even a real tank
(Well “T110E4” does exist but the tank that WG made isn’t,real T110E4 looks nearly identical to T110E3 just minor improvements)

[bleak ruin]

HELLCAT all the way. Run and pew pew

I wish hellcat was atleast t8. It’s a fun td with high speed

[fiery grotto]

Wot console got access to a 105mm variant of the hellcat. i thought it was the Super hellcat but it's a different name

[blissful cave]

105mm hellcat? Since when

[fiery grotto]

Found it

Hellcat 105 HMC

[bleak ruin]

It’s probably premium or some special offer right ?

Or console only ?

[blissful cave]

Is that a real thing? Did hellcat ever have a 105

Just checked and yea it is

[robust orchid]

E-100, then immediately try other lines, don't stick with just the E-100

[robust orchid]

183 and Foch, nothing else

[safe acorn]

105mm howitzer not getting fitted to everything challenge IMPOSSIBLE

[blissful cave]

Lmao yea

[safe acorn]

Ngl I'll straight up go back in time and commit grand arson on the MoD building for WW2

For allowing CRUISER TANKS TO REVERSE AT 3KMH

[blissful cave]

Stuart (T82 and M8)
Sherman
Pershing (T26E2)
Hellcat now apparently?
What else?

[blissful cave]

Irl?
They reverse at 3kmh?

[safe acorn]

Charioteer, Comet, Cromwell

[blissful cave]

They do they actually?

[safe acorn]

One reverse gear backwards
Knowing how small the engine bay is

Yeah they went for the lowest part and not try to have it reverse at at least 6kmh

It's even worse than the Panther because at least that big slug has a shell to withstand a shot or 2

[hollow lotus]

Any of these premiums worth keeping? Currently using the Strv for credit grinding

[slow coyote]

High tier yes

Lower tier : Ummmm may be if playing fun modes

[blissful cave]

If you like them keep them regardless of tier : )

[robust orchid]

The Strv 74A2 is the one thing worth keeping out of those three, dispose of the others

[safe acorn]

Keep all

[solid gate]

Bruh,thats some myth project that i curious about

[safe acorn]

Ngl
Although Gaijin specifically does realistic vehicles and includes some prototypes
WG digs deeper than what Gaijin will ever do despite some of em being outright fake
That and Gaijin doesn't actively scour for new vehicles

[lament mango]

They should add a new tired 8 premium tank and who better it to be then the all mighty Megatron

Think about it, wouldn't it be cool to have a transformer in the game, and imagine the voice lines he would have

[icy wadi]

it would require for wg to collab with transformers

[lament mango]

I hope they do, it would be legendary

[valid gale]

This would be the worst model ever

[lament mango]

Nuh uh

[tepid axle]

@robust orchid just researched it, never playing type 61 again

[robust orchid]

Great, now research the M48 Patton for a similar painful experience :)))

[icy wadi]

type61 is amazing

[wild lotus]

Its ok

[tepid axle]

i alr did lmao my first t10 mt i think

and its not bad tbh

[lethal light]

Is the 60p good?

[icy wadi]

yes it's quite good

[dusk flame]

I surely hope we will get something new in a few hours

[wary summit]

It's November so new stuff will be upon us

[novel prawn]

The Italian panther is beautiful

[dusk flame]

Most Italian tanks are a real joy to play imo

[novel prawn]

Wait it's French my bad

I like this tank xd

What's the armour profile btw for a frenchie I do get a lot of bounces as if I'm in a heavy some times

[wary summit]

The hull is 80mm thick, with effectively being 110mm~115mm, strong enough to tank most tier 5, but paper to tier 6 and 7

The fun part is the turret and mantlet, being pretty much impenetrable unless you fight the rare SU-100M1

[novel prawn]

Sweet

[zenith shadow]

Kv6 is much smaller than Ratte. Tho its crazy how Ratte actually existed in blueprints

[safe acorn]

Groundtank with more polygons

[novel prawn]

I snipe in the kvjr

[hybrid kraken]

new tier 6 collector incoming

[dusk flame]

Well, that was disappointing, logging in

[novel prawn]

Oh I have that tank

[dusk flame]

Shouldn’t the mk 3 be coming?

Well, there are other games to play.
Shame there ain’t nothing worthwhile to spend gold on

[hybrid kraken]

ah yes, the "better" cent mk 5

[dusk flame]

Well, anything at this point. Nothing but crap events and tanks

Don’t even think I’ll buy the pass this month

[solid gate]

I have them, old good memories

[solid gate]

Hope dont too broken, or else people will abandon mk5

[icy wadi]

that's not a centurion
that's a Vickers mbt mk3

[slow coyote]

he asking vickers mk3 it's better than cent mk 5/1

[steel belfry]

well well well...

[novel prawn]

Fought one in my type 57 the pin icons lied to me to the max saying oh I can pen I call cap

Managed to pen it once before it killed me meanwhile my teammate saw me get slapped around and no help

[blissful cave]

Kpz 70 Porsche is my most wanted tank rn I need to get it
Also I’m not seeing any vickers MBT crates or mystery crate offers where are they?

[steel belfry]

i think Vickers MBT will be in snow globe

[blissful cave]

Lmao no there’s standard 5% crates for it leaked already and it’s tier 8 here it should be out today it’s the first Friday of the month

[drifting wing]

I can not find these containers in the shop

[slow coyote]

Bro, it's mystery box

[drifting wing]

I know, I don`t have them in shop

[slow coyote]

You can check at mega draw and they have

[drifting wing]

Oh, thank you

[wary summit]

Probably by Monday as part of a 10 day subscription

[blissful cave]

They always release the tank specific crates on a Friday so I hope i wont need to wait until next Friday or even worse,two weeks planning to make it the second half of November tank and not having one for the first half (I sort of figured out a schedule to this they follow)

Tank crates will come on the first Friday of the month
They can either stay for two weeks and have two tank releases in the month or just have one tank there nearly the whole time (like souleater) or could also just have nothing there for one of the halves

So I hope this doesn’t mean that since it’s not today we’ll need to wait until the 2nd half of the month just to keep this release schedule

But also what could happen is it comes out tomorrow by a one day delay because they wanted the new BP to be the new thing in the shop and not have so much new stuff come in at once (new BP,Vickers 3 and mystery crates)

[wary summit]

xdxd

[blissful cave]

Yea that’d probably come out with the tank
But when the tank comes out will be soon ik but when exactly I’m trying to figure out

[dusk flame]

I don't have mystery crates either

[dusk flame]

Let us know, m8 - Kinda sad to log in today and only find 2D tanks, some whatever pass and ... nothing else

[blissful cave]

I need vickers MBT so bad I’m ready

[dusk flame]

I need, like I said, anything at this point... and have a lot of gold... but there ain't nothing worth spending it on

This Aeonix is it that kind that needs to be upgraded through battlepass ressources etc?

There is no legends event yet, so it's hard to tell

[blissful cave]

No Aeonix is one of the old battle pass tanks just a reskin of Skoda no modules needed

[dusk flame]

it's t6 though 😐

japanese medium line decent?

[peak yew]

Even after being nerfed, STB-1 is still alive and well.
This is because the highly reliable front turret armor and 11 degree depression angle are still the same.