vehicles-discussion

[safe acorn]

Ultraman finally put a railgun on the Type 10

[blissful cave]

It pained me to but I restored Char Futur better that than to be wasted on some draw or crates or something

[dusk flame]

Kpz 07 RH that good?

[safe acorn]

very

[dusk flame]

And I agree with you on the 121B

I better get the kpz 07 then

[abstract cloud]

I tested that tank and it was awful, glad it got buffed, it looks really good now stats wise so good that you restored it

[blissful cave]

It’s my first time playing a tank with adaptive concealment it’s insane I love being able to see who can see you and who can’t so you know who to hide from and who you can still keep dumping shells into

[safe acorn]

Man trying to grind 2.8 million
Even with all the bonuses of prem time, premium tanks and cred boosts

Its a slog

[verbal patio]

Just got the K-91, how should I play it to get the most out of it.

[fervent elm]

hull down, hide in between shots

[dusk flame]

I still think the Char Futur is underwhelming

[raw ember]

Nah
That adaptive concealment is extremely useful

[dusk flame]

Maybe, but I like the 121B much better, which also has it

adaptive concealment is, imo, the only thing the Char Futur has going for it

[raw ember]

Keep in mind that most t9 mediums don't have much going for it

[dusk flame]

true, i'll just keep away from t9 meds then 😉

[raw ember]

Except the standard b

[dusk flame]

also true, I loved it on my way to progetto 65

the american t9 is pretty great as well, can't recall if it's light though

[raw ember]

The standard b is actually overpowered
Like amazing mobility, the best camo rating for a t9 mediums, 10 degrees of gun depression, some troll mallet armor, three shells that deal 1050 damage, very good penetration and on top of that it has HE with 105 mm of pen

[dusk flame]

the small one with the huge gun...

[raw ember]

Oh yea that's great fun too

[dusk flame]

yeah that one, exactly

[raw ember]

Could've easily done over 7k if it wasn't for base cap

[dusk flame]

[raw ember]

I'm gonna play it some more

[dusk flame]

I still need to grind it

[dusk flame]

oh yeah! From a mega box

[raw ember]

Nice

[dusk flame]

I have really been wanting that

[dusk flame]

Is the Type 5 Ka-Ri bad?

I had hoped it was like the Ho-Ri, but it seems it's much worse?

[safe acorn]

Virtually no frontal armor to speak of apparently

If it isn't a light tank that don't run calli
Its swiss cheese

Also much slower than the Ho-Ri

[sullen abyss]

2k blocked 😭😭

[safe acorn]

Lower DPM for just 40 extra hp on that alpha

[fervent elm]

Playing it hurts my soul

[dusk flame]

Yeah I'll sell it

[fleet tendon]

Double shot E-100 in uprising is broken

[raw ember]

Nah you miss your shots
Double shot sheridan missile is what's op cuz the missiles are 100% accurat allowing for easy 980 damage bonk

[fleet tendon]

Go try out, stock gun E-100 dispersion is insane good

[raw ember]

Ooohhhhh you mean stock
That makes sense

[fleet tendon]

I'm grinding WZ-113

[safe acorn]

God Droodles from 2 years ago is tempting me to bring out the WZ-112-2 out for a few rounds

[verbal patio]

Is the Carro 45T still viable in today's meta?

[raw ember]

100%

[safe acorn]

Been knocked down a few notches but same goes for it's counterpart

So ig it's alr

[burnt depot]

Hi is this tank good

[stoic mason]

Yes

I am just absolutely pissed that WG is keep nerfing RHM B Wt. for no damn reason.
Instead of giving it the buff it needs they are keep nerfing the life out of it. Like just why.
1st they nerfed the alpha of the grill which effected the whole line. It was ok. But why on the earth they needed to nerf the 12.8cm's dpm. It was nothing too surprising in the first place. Later another nerf to the alpha of the grill same as always and again. Nerfed the damn dpm of the 12.8 again.
And now in 11.3 they nerfed RHM again. Making it's reverse from 15 to 12 km/h making it relay on extra equipment more and more . Just why. Answer me. Just why. It's not an OP tank in the first place why are you ruining the tank more and more WG. Why are you doing this. It should have stayed untouched. Give that tank some buff already. Buff the RHM already.

[wary loom]

I don't think thats how adaptive concealment works

[blissful cave]

Yea you can see the red eye logo on who’s spotted you

[wary loom]

Everybody can see you when you get spotted. You'll need to destroy the tanks with red logo then wait 8 secs, or not?

[blissful cave]

Or at least whoever didn’t have the red eye didn’t pay attention to me using adrenaline constantly hitting shells on em

[median oasis]

You get spotted. The tank that spotted you shows a red eye. When that eye disappears you become unspotted. Then you can move freely knowing your unspotted

You also get spotted for only 7 seconds not 10 with adaptive

[median oasis]

At all times the eye is on everyone can see you

[safe acorn]

Yeah but the red eye gives you a heads up before the spotting icon appears
7s camo reset is pretty good side bonus

Pretty nice now Leo 1 has it

[dusk flame]

Has the generel IQ of players dropped drastically lately?

[safe acorn]

It has dropped for this year

[blissful cave]

Also this has got to be a good strategy to keeping gold
Now that I restored Char Futur I have no gold I only had 10k
But I have a bunch of collector tanks that I know I will sell because I don’t want em but I won’t sell them yet because I know if I have the gold ready to spend I’ll waste it here and there bit by bit on a few draw spins or crates

So when something that I actually want comes I can just trade those in for what I want

[dusk flame]

I've spent more than enough

[blissful cave]

I have like a lot ready in reserve ready for when I need it in the form of tanks I’ll never use and plan to sell and a 50k profile background I got
That’s for when Kpz 70P and MBT-B release and T95E2 M6A2E1 and ShPTK TVP whenever they decide to put those for sale

[dusk flame]

50k profile background, whaaat?

[blissful cave]

Yea it was insane when they had an offer for 3 lottery balls long after the event I got it like eh why not
Got the massive container one
In that I got this quest that’s like “win 10 times in the span of an hour and a half” for this massive container profile background
It was the most stressful thing of my life but I did it

[dusk flame]

I'd prolly sell that before WG changes it to splinters. No one says you have to use the gold

[blissful cave]

Marder II and Tornvagn carry

[blissful cave]

I don’t think they’d do that
Plus I’ll probably redeem it soon hoping Kpz 70P releases soon
If I redeem it now I worry I’ll waste it like I always do when I have gold ready supposed to be “saved up”

[dusk flame]

Have a backbone and just don't touch it.
And... You don't think they'd do that? We are talking about the same company, right?

[blissful cave]

Lmao yea but it’s supposed to be some super rare profile background they have a few like that it’s 0.5% chance to get the quest from a massive container and extremely hard to win I just barely made it

[dusk flame]

alright 🙂

[dusk flame]

like minus 50 all along the watchtowers. No one team plays, all just go solo

best way to lose

well, I got both the XM66F and the Kpz 07 RH today, so I'm settled for a while

But yes, it's the addictiveness that keeps us going

[blissful cave]

I got my Char Futur which is like a new tank to me (when I got it I just sold it instantly without trying it because at the time I wasn’t interested in the tank)

looking into a tanks history and if I like the design determines if I’m interested in playing a tank

[dusk flame]

I really didn't like the Char Futur. Many other meds I'd rather play

The T26E5 was a huge surprise to me though, I love that tank now

[blissful cave]

Like char Futur surprised me with being now the most modern tank in blitz (1977)

[dusk flame]

ah alright 🙂

[blissful cave]

Before I would say Tornvagn had that title because the source I found says 1976-78 but if Futur started in 77 then that makes it the most modern

The most modern tank in the game that was actually built though will be Vickers MBT Mk 3 when that comes out it’s early 70’s
Tornvagn and Futur both being concepts never built

It’s funny how they put these most modern tanks at tier 8 and 9

Vickers 3 is a 10 on pc
Char Futur makes sense maybe because it’s still a very small fragile tank and not really like something like an AMX 30
Tornvagn I believe should be 10 though realistically

Kranvagn and Strv K being tier 10 Swedish heavies when they’re more modern and advanced MBT is down at 8 with the very start of the Emil project

[dusk flame]

I forgot you are primarily a collector 🙂

I didn't find the Char Futur fun to play at all. It was just cheese

I'm really getting frustrated by the lack of... brains among my team mates today

[safe acorn]

It's the money
To see 200k credit profit is paradise

[blissful cave]

Yea I only play for fun I only play tanks if I’m legitimately interested in them like their history or design idc about stats or meta

[safe acorn]

I just like all tanks so eventually I'll buy the dumb ones like Caliban or smth

For now I need tanks to give me more money
16 million and I feel like it ain't enough

[dusk flame]

Let's just say I've spent enough money the last month for a life time

[safe acorn]

Ngl my love-hate relationship with Gaijin and WG could cloud my real life stuff when I need it to and Im only keeping em around because it sucks being alone

[dusk flame]

But it needs to stop now

[safe acorn]

no

[blissful cave]

Its why I want some stupid tanks that people are like “why would you ever play that” like T95E2
I love T95E2 so much that I got a wooden sculpture of it I think it’s neat

[dusk flame]

looks awesome

[safe acorn]

That gun looks comically bigger or is it my eyes

[blissful cave]

I think it is bigger on this thing

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave oh yeah
My request to do the R.P Hunnicutt styled write up on Swedish and Finnish Armored development

||Got denied||

[blissful cave]

Or why I hate when people are like “play (tank) instead (tank) is better” like uh no I said I wanted T95E2 specifically I like that one

[blissful cave]

: (

[safe acorn]

T95E2 is slightly better than the Pershing

And boi the 300mm HEAT pen with Calli is interesting

[dusk flame]

most frustrating about this game are the people on your team... it doesn't matter how well you play, if they blow

[blissful cave]

I think it’s funny how the game implies that M48 Patton would very well be a tier 8 if it weren’t for having a 105mm instead of a 90 (Räumpanzer,T95E2 and 59 Patton having the early M48 turret)

[safe acorn]

Which yeah the regular M48A1 would

[blissful cave]

Räumpanzer just straight up being an M48A2 Patton

[safe acorn]

I return to tanks like how Kratos returns to being the God of War

Everytime I find a peaceful game (like Minecraft); the urge intensifies

Ngl funny how WG haven't considered the base 752 yet for their games

[dusk flame]

not too bad from a mystery box from a quest

it annoys me though... I got 2 of these quests earlier today, and instead of doubling the price, it extended the time period

or maybe it didn't... maybe there can only be one active at one time

[blissful cave]

You can have multiple active at once

[dusk flame]

yeah but I doubt you can have multiple active of the same

[paper wraith]

does nightmare have any credit coefficency? or can i just sell it on my alt and gamble

[wary loom]

Yeah the bulb appears immediately right

[median oasis]

As soon as ur spotted. The indicator appears later as normal

[dusk flame]

there's like 4-6 183's in each t10 match. They prolly should've nerfed it some more

[dusky tartan]

good platoon?

[robust orchid]

Good luck with the uptier, the 274a seems to be decent

[dusk flame]

So I just bought the Foch t9 - can someone help me out what equipment and consumeables to use?

[solid gate]

Määki oon suomest

[solid gate]

I'm grinding the Soviet MT line, but I'm stuck with the Tier X options, shld I research T-62A or Obj. 140?

[wild lotus]

If newbie t62,if skilled 140

[brisk yoke]

Precisely that

[solid gate]

May ik the diff tho? I main MT/LTs but iw what's the adv. And disadv. Ngl

[median oasis]

62a has a reliable turret and is more normal in terms of playstyle. 140 has absolutely no armor and a small pew pew gun so you need to get a consistent string of shots out while not being in the line of fire. Dummed down you'll be in the open more so your positioning needs to be precise. More damage potential but it is the harder tank to play by far. It plays like a leo 1 honestly

But the leo 1 has so many other things like alpha and adaptive concealment that make it much better

[pulsar hatch]

Why do shells disappear on the Sheridan armor ?
I shot at a Sheridan in a Jag hoping to overmatch the side and it did 0 damage

[median oasis]

Sheridan has spaced armor. Yellow is real. Pink is fake

It's not fake but it's like 20 mm. If you shoot through the sides along the chassis (face on) and the rear from certain directions it won't pen since you're not actually shooting the hitbox of the tank. It's just going through the spaced armor

It's basically like if you were to shoot at a track and non pen. Vs shoot at a track and pen. You have to hit the actual hitbox

[fleet tendon]

Is BZ-75 worth to grind, the dpm is hilarous

[violet timber]

It’s worth it due to basically get 2 tanks for 1 grind

[fleet tendon]

BZ-68 and BZ-75 which is stronger?

[patent prism]

It’s very fun

[safe acorn]

BZ-75 130mm is technically much better than the IS-7s

Mobility as well
But then again you have significant less armor

[patent prism]

What differentiates m60 and m48

[safe acorn]

Armor profile
M60 is faster
More gun depression
And 10+ hp more alpha

[plucky summit]

With a Jg, you're bound to overmatch every single plate on Sheridan with AP, but as explained by Bolshaya, you're missing the tank itself when you shoot a Sheridan in only the spaced armor part

[patent prism]

What would u say is better

[median oasis]

M48 more curves m60 less curves for troll bounces. M60 is the way better option because it has 10 degrees of gun dep. More usable

M48 is still an amazing tank in the current meta but m60 is just better

[safe acorn]

Mhm
Just the downside that the turret is weaker

[meager spindle]

it's only a -1 difference over the front, and m48 has become a better option

[patent prism]

Aight thx guys

[harsh elm]

m48 has reactive remember !!!

[median oasis]

Might just be me but I feel so much more versatile in the m60 vs the m48.

[median oasis]

Shouldn't need it but cool to have as an option ig

[meager spindle]

it having gear oil alone makes up for any difference the two have/had prior

[solid gate]

Ahh ok I'll play the 140 instead thank you

[verbal patio]

How to play the Emil 1?

[safe acorn]

Hulldown

[verbal patio]

How does it's frontal turret perform when uptiered?

[safe acorn]

Idk you have to check blitzkit

[twin crest]

Is there some easy way to check credit coefficients now that the forums are gone

[wary summit]

No

After the economy rebalance, most prem/collector tanks got pretty ambigious credit coefficiency

[raw ember]

M48 is better
And it's free

[raw ember]

M48 is actually quite a bit faster than the m60 now
Especially reverse speed
Unless m60 uses super speed boost

[cobalt hornet]

What should i grind now

[raw ember]

[cobalt hornet]

What

Just asking which tanks now

[raw ember]

Idk

[dusk flame]

as good as it's expensive?

[raw ember]

If the average t10 was 5/10 it'd be 7.5/10 in enjoyment and uniqueness and 5.5/10 for actual worth

[dusk flame]

expensive then, I guess

you don't even get blast tokens when buying it

heh that blast token thing... you have to spend €70 to get one t8 random certificate... lol

[fleet tendon]

Finally ace this tank , over 50 battles, a tank cannot hull down is so painful for me

[languid vale]

Is4 cannot hulldown?

[violet timber]

It can’t if you’re bad at the game

[languid vale]

Thats what i thought xD

[rapid locust]

Tru

[patent prism]

Isn’t refined gun much better than vert stabs now. In what tanks would yall say is vert stabs better, also gun rammer over cali what tanks

[violet timber]

Vstabs is still better for most tanks

[safe acorn]

mmm proggo isnt too bad

[patent prism]

Thx what abt gun rammer?

[violet timber]

Not sure tbh, I think it mainly comes down to how you feel

[dusk flame]

don't see many xm66f's around

[safe acorn]

Been seeing them alot

[dusk flame]

great tank though

[safe acorn]

God idk man I think BC 25T remains busted

[dusk flame]

it is

[safe acorn]

That and Proggo feels great

[dusk flame]

feels ~~op ~~ balanced yeah

[safe acorn]

Currently grinding for Rino so I hope it doesn't let me down

[violet timber]

Because it was mainly the alpha that made it good, the view range was just a bonus

[dusk flame]

omw to Foch, but think I should go Sheridan instead

already have XM66F, Ho-Ri, Grille, Jg. Pz. E 100 so maybe get something else than TD's 🙂

[safe acorn]

They kicked the 105
The 100mm feels even better than what the 105mm was previously and obviously now

[sick jungle]

Guys shall i purchase maus or 215b

[safe acorn]

215B

[hushed plover]

Why does nightmare look like a reskinned StuH 42G

[robust orchid]

Because it is

Highscore is basically an M4A3 105 and the Pz. IV Gargoyle is a Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. H with a 105mm assault gun

[toxic pawn]

guys

does anyone know here to find blueprints for usssr tanks

[violet timber]

If the blueprints are online it shouldn’t be hard

[toxic pawn]

because im making a 1/6 scale model of 277

and cant find hull blueprints

[wary loom]

This.
Reason why is4 doesnt make me play more than a few rounds

[toxic pawn]

thanks bro

[dapper whale]

amx50b had 220mm turret armour and almost unpenetrable hull
let that memory haunt you

[violet timber]

???

[mossy drum]

I got the 121 from a container. Should I sell it for 7500 gold or keep it?

[violet timber]

Keep it

[median oasis]

It's a heavium essentially it has no armor at all

[wheat quarry]

How good is the Kanonenjagdpanzer?

[wary summit]

A fatter, camp-ier version of the E25

[velvet remnant]

Needs skilled hands

[sonic hornet]

It’s conceptually good

[untold raft]

can somebody Please explain why my tanks are blue

i havent played in 6 years and idk what it means

[violet timber]

Collector vehicles

[untold raft]

what does it mean

cuz i have like 7 of them

[violet timber]

Basically just a premium tank but it sells for gold

[untold raft]

oooo is it rare?

[violet timber]

Not necessarily anymore

[untold raft]

awwwww i have so many

[wary loom]

Thats a great way of saying that is8 is trash

[violet timber]

It’s not trash

[wind ginkgo]

Should i get the Maus or the centurion 7/1?

[random inlet]

I want to learn how to use the AMX 30 1er prot.

[rose valve]

is-8 is good just not for bad players

[sturdy apex]

don't sell them - it now costs x2 times to buy them back

[untold raft]

Oh alr

[golden cargo]

How to use the tank?

[pastel bloom]

Hulldown has quick fire gun, so apply pressure hull down

[fallen zodiac]

Remove the 183

[fleet tendon]

Most of the terrain is difficult for IS-4 to hull down atst shooting opponent, luckily oasis palm allow me to hull down at low altitude

[cursive mantle]

Should I pick up this tank now or wait until the end of the year?

[fleet tendon]

Never

[cursive mantle]

Pls I wanna know plus I already have the Obj 252U K2 and The shark

[cursive mantle]

Why tho ?

[fleet tendon]

This tank has worst dpm and bad gun handling

Also, it is basically free from the previous event

[median oasis]

I find it fun. Has gear oil. But you have to hit ur shots cause the dpm is rather bad

[fleet tendon]

Even have gear oil, still slow

[median oasis]

Skoda isn't worth it if you have a shark honestly

[cursive mantle]

Ok if I don't buy what other tier 8 tanks could I buy be the end of the year
The tanks I have already:
IS6 5 Obj 252U K2 ISU-130 Super Pershing Shark 112 Glaial WZ 122 TM and Strv 81

[fleet tendon]

Don't play tier 8 but tier 10

[cursive mantle]

I play tier X most of the time but it's been getting less fun

[median oasis]

Yeah I'm pretty much only t10 with a few t8 games for fun

[fleet tendon]

Because you haven't found your true love

[cursive mantle]

60Tp and E5 are fun but I'm scared to play E5 because it has 65% wr and 2.5k avg dmg and same with the Type 71 with 71%wr and 2.4k avg damage but it's not fun at all

[fleet tendon]

My favourite tanks are TVP and IS-4 atm

[median oasis]

mines the wz 132 1 and leo 1

[cursive mantle]

Is4 is good but it's not fun for me

[fleet tendon]

Don't focus on win rate but average damage, 2.5k is good, my TVP now ten battles only but 100%wr with 3200 avr dmg

[cursive mantle]

(Respectfully) y tho

[cursive mantle]

I'm sorry but I don't understand that tbh could you please explain

[median oasis]

I play well in it. So I enjoy it

[cursive mantle]

I try but it's not fun when teams fall apart before you can do any

[fleet tendon]

Is there any ace, it suppose to be

[median oasis]

I didn't stretch it that far. I'm at 20 total I think. The ace bar has gone up since the update

[cursive mantle]

I mean these are my best tanks but I only enjoy the E5 and 60tp

[fleet tendon]

1.58 spots per battle for a light tank, do you go frontline?

[median oasis]

Try to. Idk why it's so low though. On certain maps I don't spot first cause I'm trying to get to a stronger position. May be the cause of it. I'm never camping in it though at most second line

[fleet tendon]

Type 71 is a strong tank, but after update i feel IS-4 is better

[median oasis]

Is4 is definitely better. Mobility. Great dpm. Decent armor to bounce. Just all around great

[cursive mantle]

I don't really see much of a difference in battle really

[fleet tendon]

I agree, position is more important

[median oasis]

I enjoy meds and lights. Hevs I feel too slow to move around and adapt to the situation. Feel kinda locked and restricted with hevs or tds

[cursive mantle]

I like an aggressive playstyle heavies just seem to work for my play style

[fleet tendon]

IS-4 is a exception, with super speed boost, foward with 50 km/h, do you play T100-LT

[median oasis]

I'll be honest my t100 isn't the best. Dropped it from 3,4-3,2 But i try to play it really aggro for spots then work on crossfires as much as possible with the dpm and mobility it has. Since it only has 5 degrees of dep or so positions matter a ton

You really can't be in the direct line of fire with it (as for all lights)

[fleet tendon]

Still have 3.4k, na server is obviously better, in asia server grille can miss it shot at 20 meters away

[cursive mantle]

Also how do I improve my stats in the kran I've had a hard time adjusting to the new changes 😦

[median oasis]

Make sure your hull down and point ur turret up when not aiming. Cause people can shoot your hatches

[fleet tendon]

Over 400 mm when pointing above

[cursive mantle]

I swear I am but people keep shooting me and the hit makes aren't showing up I guess I'm just unlucky tbh

[median oasis]

Do you have a video or ss?

[cursive mantle]

Lots

[fleet tendon]

The turret side is very weak

[cursive mantle]

Makes sense but I some people just have God level aim

[fleet tendon]

Do you turn on same control setting

[cursive mantle]

Yes I used to play on a phone now I'm on a tablet but lemme check

Uhh where is it ?

Found it , it's on

[fleet tendon]

Maybe their sensitivity is on 150%

[cursive mantle]

Oh

[violet timber]

Pretty good deal

The Skoda pop up is always worth it, it just depends on if you want to buy it or not

[fleet tendon]

Not good at all, it is free from event, and you need to spend 6500 gold for a tank everyone have, also the stat is bad

[violet timber]

It is good lol, 6.5k for one of the best tier 8 heavies

[safe acorn]

WG has the perfect opportunity to ride the wave and create a new Tier X German collector LT called

HWK 2A

[blissful cave]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-angry-speaking-head-tuco-squidward-gif-13808874276609302886

[robust orchid]

T77 and Bourrasque

[median oasis]

Yeah id instantly jump into a lake and never surface

[safe acorn]

The fact the joke came to me immediately when I saw HWK 12 and the Rhm leak

[lone kestrel]

What’s the best British tech tree right now? I just realized that I dont have any of the British Tech

[median oasis]

What leak?

[median oasis]

fv215b it's been pretty good for awhile.

[safe acorn]

And it's only the FV215B and Vickers Light

[lone kestrel]

Whole line is good? Im willing to free xp it anyways? At least the modules

[median oasis]

For the best line prob go vick or fv4202. Cent 7/1 is amazing and fv301 and cr are enjoyable tanks to play. But the best t10 is the fv215b

[lone kestrel]

Might go with the fv215b first then vickers to try hesh gameplay

[safe acorn]

4202 aint worth it now since Vickers can do what it does

[median oasis]

I still rather fv over vick. More hp. Still has 60 for speed. More alpha. I do way better in the fv so I'm biased

[safe acorn]

actually better (the gun and top speed)

vickers doesnt take a queen's lifespan to aim in and reload

[median oasis]

I find the fvs gun rather good for it's output

[safe acorn]

higher alpha for significantly lower dpm

[median oasis]

Less time in the open needed to farm

[safe acorn]

i guess man hates aggro'ing

[median oasis]

Typically I'm too aggressive

[robust orchid]

The entire line is really enjoyable tbh, just get used to having not the best mobility

[sullen abyss]

real

[crystal hare]

Cent 1 is not great

[safe acorn]

Stock?

[crystal hare]

In general unless it got buffed

[safe acorn]

Idk it's a pretty fun tank for me

[wary summit]

It's mid nonetheless

[safe acorn]

Not as mid as 4202 (actually just terrible)

[wary summit]

On god fr

[median oasis]

Why does the 4202 get so much hate💀

[sullen abyss]

Because it’s British

[median oasis]

True. If it was German people would like it

[safe acorn]

I would hate it still

I hate FV4202's existence in general
Not when the Centurion Mantletless exists

[wary summit]

It was extremely good until WG tried to gave it turret armour (barely any) and took away the pretty solid gun handling

[safe acorn]

Biblically accurate FV4202 would not beat VK 72.01K in a race

[wary summit]

Then there's the HESH gun DPM nerf, then the useless HEAT gun going much more useless with the addition of APCR standard, then nerfing said APCR standard round pen

[median oasis]

I still find it more than capable to farm up high damage numbers. Never even knew about some of these nerfs besides the turret one.

[median oasis]

It has AP standard?

Nvm the non hesh gun. Which no one uses

[safe acorn]

I use it solely because it has frontal engagement capabilities

That and 7s over just for the standard shell is really bad

[solid gate]

black prince a43 pbr

[dusk flame]

I really need Löwe and SU-130/130PM to hit the shop again…

[meager saddle]

apart of Ho-Ri what t10s are left without pbr

[ashen crown]

I think that's all

[compact dune]

[tulip steppe]

i didn't notice when the maus got it, was it awhile ago?

[meager saddle]

November 8th 2023

[tulip steppe]

really that long ago? actually tbh i don't bring it out all that much anymore

[potent agate]

Thoughts on the dracula tank?

asking since i got it from The helloween tank cert

[tulip steppe]

still very fun to drive and drift, still okay shooting on the move but have to shoot more prammo when facing t8s, vs t7s is awesome

[robust orchid]

Is the Löwe still decent to use?

[dusky tartan]

yoh and T34 Was Trying to pen me

[fervent elm]

its alright

[robust orchid]

Does it still retain its high credit coefficient?

[zealous mesa]

Kv2 :3

Kv2 hiding wit camo (gl finding it)

[robust orchid]

Behind the bush, between the plant and wooden plank beside the black bag

[zealous mesa]

oo nicee

[raw ember]

Nice
Maybe use a toilet roll or something for the gun barrel

[robust orchid]

I find it disappointing for myself that I could spot that while I suffer from German main syndrome when playing War Thunder 🗿

[zealous mesa]

Yea i figured just wrappint some sort of thin paper around the barrel would be better than just painting on the straw itself

[zealous mesa]

nah mann, that's what it's like to play a german tank

[raw ember]

I mean it doesn't look 5oo bad it looks like the 105mm

[robust orchid]

I made it to 6.0 without realizing I could use the reticles to improve my aim on SPAA, I'm built different (bad)

[zealous mesa]

Its supposed to look like it, i actually don't have any large straws to attach the iconic large cannon.

[robust orchid]

It's the 107mm ZiS-6, it looks great either way, particularly because the 152mm M-10 variant gets most of the publicity

[safe acorn]

Why is turret angled

Oh wait it is angled but damn is that too prominent

[potent agate]

Ye did start to enjoy it

[dusk flame]

fast as a bat out of hell

[robust orchid]

It's basically a nerfed CDC in a downtier

[safe acorn]

Which is good

[robust orchid]

Definitely

[dusk flame]

paper, though

[safe acorn]

You think the CDC has armor?

[dusk flame]

no, both are paper 😄 my point

[lyric oriole]

*buffed

[safe acorn]

Yeah and?
Can't expect them to have both demon time speed and armor

[robust orchid]

You know what, fair enough

Gun is basically great for its tier, speed is ungodly, plus it has a Halloween tank boost

[dusk flame]

What's made you so confrontative today, Russkan?

[lyric oriole]

It is weird that Drac has the gun with better accuracy

[robust orchid]

Probably because it kind of sounded like a complaint why the Dracula/CDC don't have armor to pair with their high mobility

[safe acorn]

If you had to carry using mid tanks in Tier X and then realize you're out of credit boosters

That and I only have 1 day left till school begins

[lyric oriole]

But tbf they added Drac before adding CDC

[dusk flame]

lol no, read again. I just stated facts. "fast as a bat out of hell" - "paper though" - where was the complain?

[safe acorn]

"paper though" can sound like a complaint

[robust orchid]

That's why I said "probably"

[dusk flame]

"paper though" is "something to consider" - I nowhere talked bad about either of the tanks nor gave the expression it's not to be expected that some virtues are traited in for others. I think some one is a bit sensitive today 🙂

I actually like both tanks when I need my inner speed devil out

[robust orchid]

You can describe something negative about something after or before describing something positive about it

I think it's probably more on how the message is perceived, especially without the voice tone, that would pretty much help differentiate how you want to express your opinion

That said...is the FCM 50t actually viable now that it's got a buff?

[dusk flame]

Dude, I'm a linguistic, university graduated. And based on your logic, I did mention positive things about both tanks first - when then stating "paper, though" it's an add-on to the original sentence "fast as a bat out of hell", hence meaning it's a trade off.

but I guess we all know what we meant now, so let's leave it at that, okay? 🙂

[lyric oriole]

FCM has been alright for a long time, people generally consider anything that isn't super strong "bad" here

FCM is alright and that's it

[robust orchid]

I honestly kind of just used whatever bit of surface level stuff I had (not to mention I'm ESL), so yeah, fair point, I kind of get it now

[dusk flame]

If you put it that way, anything you put after a primary sentence can be interpreted as a complaint, like eg. "The fire is pretty, but hot" or "The water down by the lake is warm, though also wet". Those are add-on information sentences to the originally stated opinion and how the are perceived is also up to the the interpreter/receiver of the sentence

[robust orchid]

So...was it kind of a big oopsie that I sold it before the update and now I'm stuck with less optimal grinding tanks? 🗿

[dusk flame]

I really don't like the FCM. I have no clue why. It just feels off to me 🤷‍♂️

[lyric oriole]

Depends on how you would play FCM, it's always intended to be a highly aggressive medium, if you play it too carefully it's not gonna work at all

[robust orchid]

It wouldn't have fit me anyway, I'm too unskilled to try and use it as a highly aggressive medium, so...30d premium time from it I guess

[dusk flame]

You should drive what you like. That will always bring out the best play in you

Some things just take getting used to

[robust orchid]

I actually got two accounts to play with vehicles that have different play styles to try and get myself to be a bit universal

[dusk flame]

"Sheriff" is great, but as soon as you face t9, you're toast :/

[dusk flame]

that's a bit too "elitist" for me, I just take the punches to the face instead 🙂

Wish you could sell these 🤥

[robust orchid]

Probably is, but I just kind of do it so I can get more motivation to be better after getting curb stomped on both accounts 🗿

[robust orchid]

If they sold those for like even 10 gold each, then maybe they'd get more players to actually grind the lockbox event, but then again, sweats would be swarming lobbies

[dusk flame]

Yeah, or just silver... I already have the XM66F, so... heh

At least there's the Nightwalkers Challenge. I really want the Helsing - OP as hell 🙂

[robust orchid]

I had it, but sold it because I have a chronic gambling addiction it didn't fit my play style

[dusk flame]

I spent more than my fair share of irl money on this game as well, but I'm done now. The bank always wins.

Besides some of the best tanks in the game atm are tech tree

[robust orchid]

I just stopped spending money on the game after seeing how much I was losing

That and the game is pumping out free tanks every once in a while

[dusk flame]

Yeah, and like I said, tech tree tanks are top atm imo

[robust orchid]

Speaking of tech tree tanks...should I get the CS-63? It's got a buff and it's looking mighty good to me

[dusk flame]

I see quite a lot of them and they do well

I se more Sheridan's, T92E1, B-C 25t and Project Murat though

E 50M is also very strong atm

[robust orchid]

I have it too, but one thing I'm really intrigued about is the Projet Murat, most of the players I've encountered who are using it aren't really performing too well, is it that bad? Or is it a player/user skill issue?

[dusk flame]

I think most are over confident

[robust orchid]

I see, I might try getting it after I get the CS-63, it's honestly quite good imo, basically the T-62A line but polish and maybe better (probably not in terms of armor)

Currently using the CS-53 and it's looking like a better T-44 but with Tungsten shells

[dapper whale]

what is the compensation for getting nightmare tank from the recent tank subscription?

[robust orchid]

500 gold

[hard drift]

@tulip sinew possible to chat with you about smth important?

[dusk flame]

Someone spent a lot of silver

[blissful cave]

I got my Tornvagn and Strv K to rank 50 since they’re my most played tanks
So is lansen but it’s not at 50 yet it’s like 46 or something

[dusk flame]

I guess I'll do that at some point too when I'm satisfied with my collection

[crystal hare]

When was the last time Pz IV hydrostat was sold?

Haven’t seen one in ages

[dusk flame]

Am I the only one who actually despises many of the Legendary camos? I think they're "overdone" and too much

[median oasis]

I enjoy most of them. The only one that I really dislike is the xeno 5,5k for nothing

[dusk flame]

Yeah I need e decent Legendary for my Vz. 55 as well.... xeno is just yuck

[crystal hare]

I never buy legendary camos

Most of the other camos look better

[dusk flame]

My fave camos are prolly Swirling Dunes, Hunter Markings and 8-bit(for the fun)

[rich saffron]

So if you change camo on a tank the old one doesn’t go back to being available?

[dusk flame]

what you unlocked for a certain tank will always be available

and no, spent is spent

[safe acorn]

Hello clankers

[cursive mantle]

Burh a string of bad teams lead my average damage in the E5 to go form 2521 to 2457 how do I improve it again plus a lot of these maps don't seen to be E5 friendly:/

[potent night]

yet its still kinda ehh

the 07 RH is a far better deal

[robust orchid]

I don't get how that system works (tank rank) tbh, is it just a displayable stat with no other helpful purpose?

[wary summit]

It gives you bragging rights

That's it

[robust orchid]

So...in summary, it's basically a paid bragging stat?

[dusk flame]

Yes

[tulip steppe]

it was going to be something similar to marks of excellence but then it was decided that having a "skill" level visible would just bring more toxic chat so it was made to show only someone's experience in that vehicle

[robust orchid]

I would disagree, in my experience, most players who have those paid rank stats are...let's say...have very unsatisfactory performance and behaviour

[tulip steppe]

oh i thought you were talking about the tank level, sorry miss understood

[robust orchid]

That's what I'm trying to say, it's the tank rank (level?), the one you pay for after you complete a quota just to display it (replied to image for reference)

[tulip steppe]

i wouldn't call spending credits as "paid" , some players have amassed 100s of millions of credits, misewell spend them somewhere

[robust orchid]

Ah, wasted would probably be the right term

[muted mason]

It just simply doesn't mean anything. You see lots and lots of highly skilled players with no rank and tons of unskilled players with fully ranked tanks

Wasted is probably the right term.

[robust orchid]

I honestly thought those ranks were supposed to give your tank a buff or something like what the crew skills do when they came out

[potent night]

would be crazy unfair to new players, which WG doesnt want

[safe acorn]

Could've done like CoD skill based camos

[robust orchid]

I know, which is why I dumped like 20 levels worth into my Barkhan

Wasted credits indeed

[robust orchid]

Biblically accurate Gold plated Maus camo

[safe acorn]

Platinum FV 183

[tulip steppe]

crew skills is what will give long time players small buffs to different mechanics

[safe acorn]

Would be nice to have Japanese LTs

[potent night]

almost technically, the rank camos are

sadly, due to the nature of this game, any shmuck who plays a tank long enough will eventually get the aces needed for rank 50

which at tier 10, is an impressive 14 masteries, not counting the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd classes needed

[muted mason]

Any frankly, some T10s are studpidly easy to mastery. You can track the average damage people are doing in certain tanks and time when you play them for maximum effect. Which is how I got 5 masteries in ten battles playing the Amx M4 Mle. Avg dmg: 2,500.

[potent night]

mostly because the people who understand its potential arent using it in pubs or ratings all that much

theyre using it in comp

[tulip steppe]

i think that has more to do with the timing of your good games though, i did almost the same in e6, it was 4 in 2 days

[potent night]

whichever person within the balance team thought that bringing back the E5 at its competitive peak as a french heavy should never be allowed to cook again

[meager spindle]

give me two seconds on photoshop to edit it's texture and gold maus is real

[muted mason]

People don't play it though, which is strange to me.

[potent night]

again, the only people to play it a lot is comp players and you, it seems

[wind ginkgo]

Should i buy the Maus or fv4202?

[robust orchid]

Neither, get the E-100 or Vickers Light instead

[wind ginkgo]

i already got the e-100

[fervent elm]

you did not just recommend the vickers light

[robust orchid]

Nah, it's a great Light Tank, trust me

[fervent elm]

its fun, but not good
300 alpha at tier 10 is garbage, especially with its reload

[tulip steppe]

ya seems like you have to be shooting the entire battle t9 get good results

[wary summit]

Vickers is pretty nice this update

[dawn jewel]

Wiskas is the most worst lt that i know

[coarse blade]

More than two seconds have passed

This is indeed going to the top 10 lies

[meager spindle]

who said i ever started the timer

[coarse blade]

You

[robust orchid]

One of the moments of all time

[robust orchid]

Man's caught lacking

[meager spindle]

getcho misinfo game up brotha 🙏🏼

[solid gate]

Any good prem tanks around tier viii or ix to buy? Ht and mt but lt is fine

[robust orchid]

Prog 46, T77 and Löwe

Obj. 752

[harsh elm]

752 kinda invalidates the rest of the tier 9 premium hts💀
kpz 70 is all right tho
char futur 4 is also all right

[brisk trout]

worth the 300k grind

[rotund gull]

Bruh why not the Smasher in this zerti

[hushed merlin]

why do you think 😂

[rotund gull]

When have easy gold but no have

[fervent elm]

Cos it is a highly coveted tank that could make wg more money if sold rather than given away?

[cold depot]

I wonder why Helsing is the only haloween premium

[wary summit]

Smasher is a mad games tank

[rotund gull]

ah upsi my bad

[daring yew]

Balanced enough from WG view
The other changed to collectors for future rebalance

[blissful cave]

Be me
Get mystery certificate from a crate
Nightmare
I hate this game

[lyric oriole]

free gold

[blissful cave]

I mean yea 250 gold is at least better than like 500k credits if it was a different tier 5

[dusk flame]

hows the T-22 again?

[violet timber]

One of the best tier 10 meds right now

[dusk flame]

better than 121b?

[violet timber]

Yes

[jovial bough]

is 121b good?

[violet timber]

Yes

[golden cargo]

Any good? (I have a bad rng since i want the gold)

[violet timber]

Yes it’s good

[blissful cave]

Hey 3750 gold is better than 1000

[errant oak]

Borrasque is better than 3750

[river quartz]

Never

[meager spindle]

amazing work, 10/10

[sleek oak]

This tank i just cant anymore

[valid gale]

Choke of the year

[wary summit]

Lmao

[solid gate]

Any good prem tanks around tier viii and ix?

[tulip steppe]

that will be a long list, but for tier 9 obj 752, kv 91, kpz 70, amx are near the top on people's lists

[ancient birch]

Should I free exp 268 or ho-ri modules?

[tulip steppe]

tier 10 modules?

[ancient birch]

I'm meaning t9 modules lol,its 1am

[tulip steppe]

oh im the type that free xps every tank module before i even play them, but are you asking what tank you should grind towards?

[solid gate]

Can u dm me the list if u can? (Include cheap options for f2p)

[tulip steppe]

i meant that's asking a lot, i'll just say go on YT and search wot blitz tier 8 premium ranking list" thatll be easier and they break them down for you

[solid gate]

Alr

[ancient birch]

Yes

[coarse blade]

I was in the process of learning how to photoshop while making this💀

You made me do this

And.... yes?

Bro is on his villain arc🙏

[safe acorn]

Man what are you playing on that blitz is running on 10 FPS

[robust orchid]

🗿

And before you ask where the other pixels are, I sold them to gamble 🗿

[plucky summit]

Oh yeah we love desync

[dusk flame]

Those UM vehicles on webpage? Any of them good or just meh?

[wary summit]

One's a trash SU-152 while the other is awkwardly tall

[dusk flame]

shame, look fun

[rotund gull]

Oh the Sturmtiger at Home is back

[dusk flame]

what do you mean?

[safe acorn]

The gun barrel is huge and short
Even for the stated 152mm caliber

[dusk flame]

Ah alright

[rotund gull]

real scam

[dusk flame]

I'm still undecided wether I think Char Futur is good or bad

[dusk flame]

what do you mean?

[safe acorn]

If you want better gun handling you go for Char Futur 4

If you want better mobility then 1er Proto

[dusk flame]

Yeah but are any of them actually good?

[rotund gull]

you waste 12k Gold for Gamba

[safe acorn]

They're both good MTs

[dusk flame]

Ah yeah - but some have a lot of gold and no irl money. And some are addcited to gambling

[rotund gull]

yeah

[dusk flame]

Klapperkiste... isn't that an old children's tv programme?

[safe acorn]

Gotta squeeze the cow with more methods

[dusk flame]

ofc

well, I did 2k gold gambling and ended up with 10k+... so trying to decide wether to get Char Futur or 1er Proto - or none of them

only t9 I have is the 752

[safe acorn]

They're reasonable Tier IXs

[dusk flame]

what you're sying is there are better choices

[safe acorn]

If you're willing to grind tech trees yeah

[dusk flame]

I am

US Sheridan line?

[dusk flame]

Can you give some good examples?

[safe acorn]

Standard B was a good MT line
Projet Louis is promising
Haven't tried out T54E1
PTA was a great tank but I played it, pre-buffed
7/1 was also a good experience

[dusk flame]

thanks

Gonna try the frenchie

[robust orchid]

T54E1 is...halfway good and not so good

[harsh elm]

t54e1 is the one tank i NEVER, and i mean NEVER see a good player play in it, its an all right tank but i NEVER see a good player playing the t54e1 EVER

[coarse blade]

48%er pro

[robust orchid]

That's because not everyone wants to play Tier IX all the time, it's just a personal choice

[heady geode]

Yeah i think most people find t9 frustrating because 2/3 battles are against t10

[robust orchid]

Unless you're really skilled or using a 752 or K-91, you're going to suffer

[safe acorn]

Man 268 has no armor is something you'd never hear but it's the truth

[fierce estuary]

Hmmmm

Two barrels
Czech
Light tank
Autocannon

It reminds me of the new Czech Light Tech tree from WoT

[tepid lily]

never knew that existed, but honestly that could be the inspiration for the tanks that we have in WoT PC

I want the ZSU-57-2 so badly tho 😩

[fierce estuary]

Ye also the Kugelblitz since Autocannons works

[fierce estuary]

Could happen but not on main WoT

Lesta...

Just like Object 279

[tepid lily]

tier 11 tanks

[fierce estuary]

Hmm yea

I like this tho

Chinese BZT-70

[safe acorn]

Pretty obnoxious design
Something out of Just Cause

[lyric oriole]

It used to be good back on release, had 350 alpha, people were saying the original form was bad for whatever reason, but it's only gotten worse

[wary summit]

WG keeps juggling the poor thing

Sometimes they gave it armour and remove mobility, sometimes they remove armour and gave it mobility

[calm crystal]

they should fix aiming, like we aim correct but tanks gun missing even it have best aiming

[meager spindle]

who needs photoshop 🗿

[zenith shadow]

Kinda looks like T28/95 hull

[rancid swan]

Will the M48A2 Räumpanzer ever get the possibility to add attachments?

[dusk flame]

Doubt it, it's already pimped out graphically

[shell sable]

L3/33cc as a tier 2 Italian TD when?

[clever geyser]

Did they do something with the Helsing? I just noticed mine is gone from my garage... Still have Dracula but my Helsing is MIA...

[dusk flame]

Yes, apparently they made it vanish from your account 😉

How bouncy is Projet Louis? Worth taking armor or just go hitpoints?

[violet timber]

Just go hit points

[dusk flame]

fun lil tank though

[coarse blade]

Not this ahhh move

[meager spindle]

troll ufp
thats about it

[dusk flame]

Geez extreme lag on EU servers again

[safe acorn]

Aye you actually got the Louis

[sullen abyss]

I confiscated it

[blissful cave]

#blitz-art message made a model of Strv K Konung

[lone kestrel]

Is the e50m just a better e50? e50 is my best performing medium with 60% win rate. Now i got the e50m and im at like 30% win rate now on my first 20 battles which is way off my averages. It feels kinda off tbh

[sullen abyss]

e50m is probably one of the best meds atm

thats just t10 teams with the glue sniffers trying to do the 300k dmg mission

[lone kestrel]

I guess ill just try to be less aggressive and git gud.

[sullen abyss]

ik the feeling, u take a strong position that can dominate but your team isn't ready to support

i wish i had the same decision making ability that better players have lol

[lone kestrel]

Yeaa watching from good streamers, they just know when to rotate even if it’s “giving up” a good position just because they’re aware of how pub teams think

[sullen abyss]

plus raw mechanical skill too. that small diff adds up in tours and dominates in pubs

crazy to see the shots that some ppl pull off

[light shore]

Hello

[dusk flame]

both decent tanks, right?

[raw ember]

Yes
What's the price tho?

[dusk flame]

€18 for both - the bundle

[raw ember]

Idk about real currency
But I think that 11-12k would be a decent price although you might not enjoy them since they are slow reloading inaccurate tanks

[dusk flame]

Type 57 looks most interesting tbh

but can only be bought as bundle

and yeah, low dpm

[raw ember]

Yea I think skip

[dusk flame]

Geez Skoda T45, heavy t7 has 700 more dpm than those tanks

[raw ember]

Lol

[wary summit]

Ah yes

The Terminal Hulldown™ of the European and Asian branch

[dusk flame]

Bullet soakers

[raw ember]

Except type 57 doesn't even have good armor

[safe acorn]

18eur seems good

[dusk flame]

I just got the Skoda T45 heavy t7... that actually seems like a great tank

[safe acorn]

Around 25$SGD for two alright premiums

[dusk flame]

Yeah price is okay, I guess, but I'll stick to T77 and Bisonte 😄

[wary summit]

Ah yes

A worse Tiger (P)

[dusk flame]

just went 1on1 with a tiger p - must've been a bad player then

[fervent elm]

only 5 meals

[safe acorn]

Or one restaurant item

[dusk flame]

Yeah go ahead and buy them and see how much you play them 😉

[safe acorn]

Which?

[dusk flame]

the 5 meals

[icy wadi]

Ye avoid it

[fervent elm]

save money buy not going restaurants

[safe acorn]

I alr have em

[dusk flame]

Remember when people cried about the 183? And now there are more than ever lol

[safe acorn]

Witnessing a 183 miss a shot 50m away is one of the worst things out there

[fervent elm]

i saw a 183 load AP on a WT pz iv

[dusk flame]

well, what that potential dmg it should be a littl gambling involved 😉

[dusk flame]

no one said 183 players have above average iq 😄

[safe acorn]

Seeing them miss an easy shot is the same as witnessing another guy get hit in the nuts

Every guy will feel the pain

[dusk flame]

And think it's fun

[safe acorn]

Not if it's on your team

[dusk flame]

true

[sullen abyss]

Glue sniffer gameplay

[fervent elm]

What about it?

[sonic briar]

Someone know the Borg drone tank ? (On the right team) . Because if I want to saw is profile , it say he play ru 251.

[sonic briar]

Sry

[fervent elm]

borg drone is the RU's legendary camo from the star trek collab

[sonic briar]

Ho , ok , thanks

[humble jungle]

To the person who said that atleast wot bases themselves on real concepts in order to deny a latin american tech tree. All I have to say to you: "I was right"

[worldly grotto]

Will the tornvagn be ever sold for gold?! It's the second time to be in money bundles

[manic spindle]

What tank should I farm XP on to unlock the t9 rhm pzw the fastest

[wary summit]

Info is barely out lol

But the best bet would be the RU

[noble tulip]

RHM on RU wotb insta leaked, its gonna have tracer shells AND the 7 sec camo of the wz? Cooking (MAYBE)

[versed reef]

Ru you wanna grind atleast 180k~ for the tank itself and you'll probably need more than 100k for the modules presuming it's as expensive as murat

[manic spindle]

Yea but what's the t9's name

[manic spindle]

Lmao

[versed reef]

Completely unknown as it has no world of tanks counterpart beside ru251

[manic spindle]

Crazy

[harsh elm]

its apparently the HWK 12, which is the tier 8 on pc since the ru-251 is the tier 9..

[versed reef]

Hwk 12 is just the same as sp1c, I doubt it would go sp1c, ru251 then back to hwk 12

It just seems inefficient

[harsh elm]

yeah thats what i thought as well but the only other option they really have is they make up a completely new german lt for tier 9 like what they did with the t100 🤷‍♀️

[versed reef]

Probably will 🤷

Maybe something close to 30.01 d

[safe acorn]

Ngl I'm impressed that the Obj 84 wasn't a recent creation
Or discovery (source yet unfound)

No one has answers to the Obj 84 but it predates WoT

[fierce estuary]

Would this work as a Premium Italian Arty? In WoT PC

Semovente 149/40

Tier VII or Tier VIII

[verbal patio]

I got 21k gold boys. Should I grab the predator thing? The guaranteed T10.

Or should I gamble on a massive container?

[topaz basalt]

👍

[verbal patio]

Massive container instead?

[fervent elm]

make it a tier 10 TD on wotb

[fierce estuary]

💀

[fervent elm]

the superior grille

[fierce estuary]

And Very low profile

[wary summit]

Finally something the Grille could only dream of

Actual camo rating

[fervent elm]

and alpha

[safe acorn]

@fervent elm @wary summit thoughts on a Tier IX Chieftain?

[fervent elm]

imma get it when it drops

[safe acorn]

Emil 2 has a challenger now

[violet timber]

HWK 12

[safe acorn]

Apparently HWK 12 exists

This too
Another Chieftain configuration

[wary summit]

Perhaps

[fervent elm]

nah idk. double apcr kinda stinks

[dusk flame]

Object 777 II bad?

[safe acorn]

But it's at a lower tier at least

[fervent elm]

APCR still stinks
it might be the dealbreaker for me

[wary summit]

If your main point is the standard pen and ammorack health, yes

Other than that, it's a pretty nice tier 10

[dusk flame]

Alright ,thanks.
I also got the Tankenstein and Lycan - any of those worth keeping?

[wary summit]

Lycan is a downtier'd Obj 252u and have immunity against broken module

Tankenstein is kinda obsolete if you have either the SU-100y or T29

[dusk flame]

alright, thanks

[wary summit]

Cheers

[dapper whale]

unpopular opinion: we don't agree with wargaming removing the heat gun for vickers light and chieftain mk 6, they should had kept both heat and hesh guns for vickers light just like fv4202 had 2 guns to choose from

[dusk flame]

Obj 907 still a decent tank?

[fervent elm]

can it shoot?

[shy swift]

it can shoot, and the machine gun will make sounds

[copper olive]

tg

[wild lotus]

Yes

[dusk flame]

tracer part is pretty fun when you hit a fast frenchie

tracer shells are quite helpful

[grim token]

Predator fun to play? Also will there a vincator draw?

[clever geyser]

I found it... It's not a collector tank like the Dracula.. it's a premium tank like the SU100Y...

[royal orchid]

What do I do when I have 5 collector tanks that got sold? And I didn’t sell them? I’ve got no clue how it happened. I never got a notification of the sale or receiving gold.

[tulip steppe]

you can write a ticket and request a list of the last x amount of transactions from your in game account

[royal orchid]

Understood. Thank you. Hopefully this helps. I just hope they don’t say ah your just have to pay 2x the gold value and have it back. Bc I’d be getting punished for something I didn’t do

[tulip steppe]

if you can prove you didn't want to sell them and still have the gold in your account then they might be able to help

[royal orchid]

Gotcha. I’ve never sold any of my collector or prem tanks before. Unless it was years ago and like tier 3

[tulip steppe]

are the tanks you're talking about listed in the restoration tab?

[royal orchid]

Yeah they are. That’s how I found out. I had never seen that tab before

[tulip steppe]

if you truly didn't sell them then ya writing a ticket at wargaming.net will get you answers, tip asking nicely gets better results than insulting WG and demanding things : )

[royal orchid]

Ofc yea, I was just more worried my money was gone that me upset and blaming them

[hushed merlin]

this sounds like something that happens when you get hacked, its probably better to first chek your account security and write to support about that. If your account wasnt hacked, then the player support will likely give you reply saying how your tanks got sold within their response

[tulip steppe]

start the ticket first before making any changes so they can clearly see what happened

[royal orchid]

Gotcha. I already sent the player support about the tanks first. Didn’t think about account security and writing a report for it.

[eternal vector]

guys what do you think is the more versatile/ stronger tank, object 140 or T-62A

[tulip steppe]

t62a has stronger armour but after the recent changes it might be too early for an opinion on versatility

[zealous mesa]

whats a better LT than the LT-432? Its good but, i kind of need a lil bit more damage, or if not, flexibility.

[royal orchid]

They only recovered 1 tank and made me pay full price.

[hushed merlin]

this is why you write to actual player support rather than writing a ticket about tank restoration, since thats just a VRT and it makes you pay full price, its an automated system not a person

Do this, tell them 5 tanks disappeared from your account with no gold received back. If your account wasnt hacked then player support will tell you what happened to those tanks in the response to this ticket

[royal orchid]

Understood. Thank you for help. Will do so right now

[harsh elm]

in tier 8?

[zealous mesa]

any, just smth better than it

[blissful cave]

M22 Locust goes crazy

[fervent elm]

You can find games at tier 3 on NA?

[blissful cave]

Yea I play it all the time I was just having fun in my M2 Medium this morning

I love the M2 Medium it’s one of my top favorite tanks ever made

If only it had its accurate turret in game and not that M8 one (ik it was something about modules at the time of it being removed from the tech tree)

My beloved (that’s me)

[harsh elm]

tier 10 has 5 soon to be 6 different lts you could try, tier 8 has the ru-251, senlac, lekpz and hwk 30

[blissful cave]

I had senlac when it came out but I sold it idk it was just eh and I don’t think the tank is real either (I bought one crate as a lol and i actually got it) couldn’t find anything on it

Also WG’s description doesn’t even make sense either “tank developed in the 60’s with the requirement to have superior mobility to the Chaffee” …why would a 60’s tank be compared to the Chaffee? Wouldn’t it make more sense to try to make a superior version of the AMX 13 if you’re really gonna be like that? They even look similar too

[woven pilot]

What are top 3 or 5 most broken tanks in the game (any tier) dont Need to be in order just broken

[safe acorn]

I mean UK didn't have any light tank experience other than that and the earlier tetrarch afaik

[royal orchid]

I did this, now I’ve just been “banned” from every war gaming platform

[plucky summit]

Smasher, Annihilator, Ke-Ni Otsu

[real gulch]

IMO, STuG E-100 (17 cm Sturmgeschütz auf E 100 Fahrgestell) , is better looking than the Jageroo we have in-game, and makes more sense.

[violet timber]

Uhhhh stug E100 can also be used as a term for the Jageroo since nobody really knows what it was called

And most likely of the Jageroo was made, it would’ve used a 15cm gun, had a rear or middle mounted casemate, and been called stug E100

[real gulch]

I prefer the middle mounted one, it looks beter like that, and would make more sense.

[fervent elm]

S conq

[meager wind]

ebr 105

[fervent elm]

E5, M48, E 50 M

[wary summit]

Rino is pretty superb

[safe acorn]

VZ has a more stronger armor profile than Rhinoceronte

[wary summit]

Both are pretty similar but Rino's ability to hulldown comfortably and having an autoreloader can keep its presence in the fight much more than the VZ's

[dusk flame]

Is tungsten worth it on the T-22 medium?

[safe acorn]

Both have the same depression tho
Vz has a better turret profile against prammo than Rino

[wary summit]

Same old, same old

[safe acorn]

Idk how much better the Rino's DPM is when on a full dump, but the burst damage is nearly a 100hp less than VZs

[wild lotus]

Vz dpm is better

[safe acorn]

Rino however does out accelerate the Vz and has better gun accuracy

Guess Vz is better for careless people who likes the front and Rino is more flanking and support

[hushed merlin]

bruh what that shoudnt happen, did they say why your account was banned? They should give you some reason or say if you can appeal the ban/recover the account. Maybe @forest ermine can help with this issue

[robust crypt]

183

[dusk flame]

Enough 183's already as is

[safe acorn]

Probably lost a frontal lobe once you buy that thing now

[forest ermine]

Yeah ngl, that never “just” happens, but @royal orchid is free to dm me and show me what he wrote and what support wrote back

[safe acorn]

Welp dmg event is about to conclude
Hope it removes the VN bots off the server (it don't)

[wary summit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/684721152739770371/1097674527028293633/attachment-1.gif

[safe acorn]

"Carrying games with the Sheridan" shouldn't be a statement anymore

But holy damn

[tulip steppe]

they must've found some funny stuff on his account to get that kind of ban, without explanation

[safe acorn]

Just let me have the Monster Evo camo and this game is in the bin for awhile

[royal orchid]

Yeah idk. Ithink it was done due to multiple pings they got from people getting in? And they decided to take a day to look completely into it? Idk.

[forest ermine]

Wg always locks down accounts that might be hacked, to avoid it being ruined further

So that’s a safety precaution

[hushed merlin]

Yea then you need to just work with player support to try and get it back, idk what they usually do with hacked accounts but they'll probably get you to change some account details and add additional verification so it can't be accessed by others in the future

[royal orchid]

Sounds good. Thank y’all for the amazing help.

[hushed merlin]

np

[safe acorn]

Man 4005 is not great anymore

[solid gate]

Still dangerous tho

[frosty ibex]

Facts

[solid gate]

Same with foch 155, i rather get 820 dmg from fv instead of 1120dmg from that thing even when their intraclip are similar

[grim token]

Will there vincator draw?

[patent prism]

Ngl I feel like rhm pzw will have the worst light tank stats to make up for it having both mechanics maybe with a top speed gimick

[safe acorn]

Knowing the trend of WoTB
It's gonna be mid

[violet timber]

It’s stats aren’t too bad rn

[dusk flame]

T25 Pilot 1 any good?

[violet timber]

Yes

[dusk flame]

5000 gold?

I’ll grab it

I’ve never seen so much special equipment on a t8 before…

[lilac axle]

hello

and where can you find promo codes?

[blissful cave]

T25 gets all that?! AND was buffed?

[wary summit]

Gotta make it appealing to the wider crowd somehow

[fervent elm]

https://tenor.com/view/maxwell-lord-gif-17391197804346606335

[eternal vector]

the B-C 25 t has troll ricochet, just me?

[blissful cave]

Another week another disappointment…like seriously why can I not get T95E2 I’ve been waiting week after week for each offer hoping it’s T95E2

I’m going insane

Like just so I’m not going crazy or anything has anyone else seen T95E2 as a pop up recently? There’s no way I’m cycling through the same 5 or so pop ups and not seeing E2 specifically

[grim token]

Hellsing good? What tank yall like in red card?

[blissful cave]

I remember it being a pop up before but haven’t seen it since I became interested in the tank and now I’m not seeing it at all

[dusk flame]

omg container

[dusk flame]

My biggest problem is, I don't really think I need more tanks haha

[blissful cave]

Same here I have pretty much all the ones I want rn except T95E2,M6A2E1 and SHK TVP but for some reason still get crates sometimes 💀

Like if I get a tank it’d either just be a duplicate or if it’s one I don’t have yet it’ll be one I won’t use and will sell because looking at the list i have all the ones I’d want rn

[blissful cave]

Also obviously Sherman Jumbo but I basically gave up,they’ll never make that obtainable
They did make the tier 2-3 ones possible after being unobtainable for so long so there is hope

[dusk flame]

I think I'd like the SConq... but, meh... dunno how to get a hold of that

[rose valve]

i got it last draw

[dusk flame]

I really like mediums - I have E 50M, 121B, Obj. 907, T-22, Carro 45t, Char Futur 4, Projet Murat, T25 Pilot 1, Kpz 07 RH, B-C Bourrasque, Chimera, Progetto 46, Skoda T27, Astron Rex.

Is there anything missing on that list I can't live without?

[steep girder]

I have a question, is the M48 Patton (tier X) any good. And is it worth getting it??

[hushed merlin]

E2 isnt a pop up offer, you're hoping for something that won't happen

[blissful cave]

I know I’m not going insane though I’ve seen it before it comes with the salvaged scrap as its camo and everything I think last time I saw it was like spring this year

Unless they removed it

[hushed merlin]

Just because you've seen it before doesnt mean anything, it used to be a pop up but wg has discontinued that offer, the current batch is just IS-2SH, T-44-100, 59-Patton and a few others

[blissful cave]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-bros-depression-sad-mario-and-luigi-gif-14815881022592239601

[rotund gull]

300k Mission gone

[noble tulip]

I got it (the T95) the 252U three months in a row

[blissful cave]

How recent did you see T95E2 as a pop up? I just want to sort of test if it’s still actually able to be a pop up offer someone told me that they don’t sell it anymore in these kind of offers (and the last time I saw it was sometime in spring this year)

[noble tulip]

A while ago, i quit the game and havent seen a pop up in two months

[blissful cave]

Yea I play on switch the process to send screenshots to your phone is unnecessarily tedious when this does the job

[hushed merlin]

Just wait for the E2 to appear in store, prob better than waiting for a pop up, pop up offers are a roulette for if you even get them or not, let alone what tank is offered

[blissful cave]

Been doing that too seems like they’re not putting “old tanks” in the shop like at all
All the tier 8 offers seem to just be more recent or meta ones (which makes sense I guess but not ideal for me who wants T95E2 and M6A2E1)

Idc that they’re old and “bad” just lemme buy them I like the actual tank itself so I want to play as it

[slow coyote]

Ummm.... so you have some pictures Obj 140 yet?

[blissful cave]

Been waiting on M6A2E1 since January hasn’t been sold at all this year aside from one double pack offer for money only (no separate or gold option)

[slow coyote]

Why?

[blissful cave]

Because I like the M6A2E1 and think it’s a really interesting tank liking its design and history

[slow coyote]

But it's real tank?

[blissful cave]

Yes it’s a real tank
I made a cool model of it too if you want to see it

For the record every US tank in the game is real except for the two tier 7 tech tree TD’s,T28 Prototype (the tech tree not HTC)and T110E4

[slow coyote]

So.. have some many pictures about M6A2E1 yet?

[blissful cave]

Yea it was built

[slow coyote]

But now it's keep at museum?

[blissful cave]

The tier 7 one is the version that was built
The tier 8 one is what the tank was supposed to be (with the uparmored hull)

The tank was going to be canceled but they agreed to build it only to test the turret/gun so the modifications to the hull were deemed unnecessary since it was never intended to be used,only to test the turret/gun

and no the tank currently isn’t around : ( they scrapped it

M6A2E1 was designed to try and make use of the M6 since they had a bunch of them build and not being used during WW2 and they had no heavy tank and were trying to think of a way to get one out and one of their ideas was to heavily modify the M6’s with new armor and guns

[river quartz]

Imagine driving a panther and you see a two story house moving towards you

[blissful cave]

Yea I’d love to see this tank irl thing looks MASSIVE

[frail viper]

see the difference of the 15cm and the 12.8cm

[blissful cave]

There’s so many tanks I wish they didn’t scrap like I’d want to see T57 Heavy,T54E2 and THE Super Pershing so bad

[safe acorn]

Man WG somehow does a better job at doing sub nations than WT

China is getting Singapore as a sub-nation (Leopard 2A4 2007 with 0 upgrades to it yet) as a squadron vehicle

Like why

[frail viper]

looks like im livin under a flippin rock

[blissful cave]

?

[frail viper]

on the left is the 15cm the left is the 12.8

sorry the right is the 12.8cm

[blissful cave]

What? What am I looking at/for?

[cursive mantle]

Hello and good mourning/afternoon and would like to ask two things
1 how should I play the Wz 121 for better stats
2 is the M48 worth it and what are some tips for when I get it

[frail viper]

see the green on the grey thats the tank

the left is the 15cm the right is the 12.8 see the difference now?

[hushed merlin]

what are you even comparing lmao

[frail viper]

the gun elevation

[hushed merlin]

using a top down view is a terrible way to compare gun elevation

[frail viper]

ye that makes more since

[fervent elm]

I don’t think you can get a grainier picture than that

[safe acorn]

Actually I know T95E2 is horrible but I didn't think it got 300mm of HEAT pen

[hushed merlin]

also you can literally just do this

[frail viper]

thats what i was tryin to get with the roof over on midleburg

[wary summit]

Alien sightings pictures

[frail viper]

congrats your the first one to say somthin about the alinement 👏

[wary summit]

Smells like projection

[peak ruin]

Yo i got lightbringer in the stream today but its not in my garage, when im gonna receive the tank?

[blissful cave]

Probably when it comes out

[brisk yoke]

I saw a “hidden dossier” show it in a room battle

[meager spindle]

press account.

[dapper whale]

is2 shielded is kinda like is6 at tier 7
agree?
in terms of armour profile

[meager spindle]

no...

[safe acorn]

Definitely

NOOOO

Secretprojectsforum is closed

[meager spindle]

no... surely...

[meager spindle]

not the place where i can find the specifications of the most obscure things....

[rotund sonnet]

original WT auf Pz 4 drawings

[safe acorn]

another list of impractical waffentragers

[plush elbow]

I still dont know why the FV4005 is an autoloader why just wg could not make it a single shot just like the FV215B 183

[valid gale]

Because the 183 is toxic and the autoloader is healthier for the game

[fervent elm]

1 183mm cannon in game is bad enough. 2 is worse

[robust orchid]

Replace the 183 with the Badger and replace the 4005 with the 4005 II, problem solved

Also makes the lines make more sense

[wary summit]

Wouldn't be a fiscally sound decision from WG to turn a collector to a tech tree tank, so might as well use the Chief CTR to replace the 183

[hushed merlin]

the FV4005 we have in game already is the stage II version, stage I doesnt have any turret protection

[robust orchid]

I'm well aware of that, I'm referring to WG's naming/classification, even though most of it makes no sense

The FV4005 Stage II that I'm referring to is the one you can find on WoT

[hushed merlin]

yea wg doesnt pay any attention to that lol

unless they need to make 2 tanks out of one, like Type 62 and WZ-131, then they pay attention

[safe acorn]

Or LESTA's Alligator since that actually exists

[grim token]

Is it fun to use vindicator UM?

[rotund gull]

First drop was at Console for the new BP Season. Now Added for PC and wait for Blitz

[robust orchid]

There's also the WZ-121 and Type 59, and oh...the E-10 which looks nothing like THE E-10

[wary summit]

German Excalibur xd

[rotund gull]

🤣 true

[safe acorn]

WZ-121 is the Type 69
Not the 59

[robust orchid]

Mb, I think I meant WZ-120 💀

[safe acorn]

I don't think WG cares enough about naming and proper conventions because it literally doesn't do anything except be politically correct

[elfin sandal]

I have 570K free exp, and i'm at tier 5 for every tech tree, which tier 10 should i immediately research?

[hushed merlin]

thats not politically correct lol, its historically correct

[safe acorn]

Point still stands

[hushed merlin]

WZ-121, WZ-110, and WZ-113 used to be called 121, 110, and 113 but they changed it, i would assume for less confusion

but the old names were the correct ones, adding WZ to them made them inaccurate

[robust orchid]

Wait for the Rheinmetall Panzerwagen to release, then dump all your free xp into it

[robust orchid]

They did keep the 121B's name, for some reason

[hushed merlin]

I think cus it has "B" in it they decided its enough to not be confusing. Imo the reason they changed the names was cus just a single number like "110" might not have seemed like a proper tank name to many ppl

[robust orchid]

That probably makes sense, but nowadays people usually just refer to most tanks using the numbers in their names, so I think it's a roundabout with WG

[hushed merlin]

yea, easier to call WZ-110 just 110, not another tank with that name anyway

[elfin sandal]

when is it coming out?

like im new to wotb so i dont know what's good

[robust orchid]

Probably the next update or so?

Basically a Light tank with every special light tank mechanic in it

[hushed merlin]

nah, they will test it next update. New lines come with new seasons, so expect Season 6

[robust orchid]

Mod servers actually use that system, especially with leaks

like "116 F3" being the upcoming Black Friday Tank

Nvm it has a corresponding letter to differentiate it from others

[hushed merlin]

Ah yea, like 116 is c50
They have different names in game files tho which is interesting, like 116F3 is WZ-1226 if i remember right
Generally the game file names are more accurate than the names given in game

[daring rose]

Guys who keep missing for no reason with full aim ?

[harsh elm]

the wz-132-1 is called the type 62c or something iirc, at least when you go to share a replay of it (unless they've changed that)

[robust orchid]

That's just desync or the Skoda T56

[safe acorn]

Type 62G I think

[hushed merlin]

Type 62G has a redesigned turret, the 132-1 is a Type 62I with a 105mm gun, the actual Type 62I didnt have the 105mm gun

[safe acorn]

Cool

[verbal patio]

How should you play the Carro?

[peak ruin]

Is leopard 1 good to buy?

[violet timber]

Yes

[empty plinth]

2nd line hull down
let your other mediums draw focus while you dump shells into them when they're not looking at you
Do not fire the last shell unless you are certain it will kill the target and you can stay idle for 20 seconds

[ocean moss]

What Line and X is actually good?

I've done the Rino, VZ55, Kranvagn and E50M and don't know what should I choose now

[rotund sonnet]

there a lot of waffentragers in the Bundesarchiv i havent seen most of them before

[ocean moss]

And what are your opinions about obj.260 and 121b? How good they are? Worth to play?

[safe acorn]

Yeah and theyre all impractical
Not for the time they were made at least

[copper olive]

tg

[median oasis]

260 is meh now because of the is4 e6 and fv215b just being better in the Heavium category. 121b is fairly good now one of the better meds atm. Only behind the 50m Pattons cs and leo imo

[ocean moss]

Great, thanks

[mellow arrow]

Im wanting to research either a Chinese or European nation heavy. I already have the 60. What tank would you recommend

[wary summit]

VZ and Rino are pretty on top right now

[mellow arrow]

[verbal patio]

Opinions on the Kranvagn?

[pulsar frigate]

slow match heavy not made for steamrolling imo

[sullen cloud]

Hey I haven't played in over a year what has changed,

[safe acorn]

A lot
Tier X rebalances twice happened
A couple new tech tree branches
Loads more skins if you're into that
10 V 10 just occurred

[sullen cloud]

Balance changes?

[sullen cloud]

Wow

[safe acorn]

Yes

[sullen cloud]

I have a top ten most damage ever game on forestwitch right before I quit is it to late to upload it

[safe acorn]

Yes

[sullen cloud]

Oh ok

[sullen cloud]

Are heavy still the same?

[safe acorn]

Some have changed for the better or for the worst

[sullen cloud]

Oh I guess i will wait for a fun game to see the changes

[safe acorn]

Big Boss is out

[median oasis]

Best rn are Rino Vz sconq e100 with the stock gun. Fv215b is4 probably some others but I forgot

[sullen cloud]

You have Sheridan missile?

[safe acorn]

No

[median oasis]

Not for NA, HATED is NA

[sullen cloud]

Ok,
And it's the WTM Hated clan not Wtb but i still play na

[safe acorn]

¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[sullen cloud]

Does Galarian Quest still do tank of the day?

[sullen cloud]

Quick question is 5k damage blocked for VII still a lot?

[violet timber]

How many games do you have?

[sullen cloud]

2, 300

[safe acorn]

Not anymore no

[sullen cloud]

😭

[sullen cloud]

Did he quit wtb?

[safe acorn]

He's tired of it yeah but I think he's playing occasionally just to check in on some tank offers

[sullen cloud]

Wow it must have gotten bad for him to quit.
I quit playing when they introduced th sbmm

[safe acorn]

He's just bored of waiting for the tanks he wants

[sullen cloud]

Oh,
How often are the updates now

[median oasis]

Wg is trying harder because of lesta existing so there's been more introduced overall

[sullen cloud]

Lesta?

[safe acorn]

Russian independent sub server

[median oasis]

Also there was a major change. Since you've been gone Equipment and some consumables got balanced

[sullen cloud]

@safe acorn oh.
Wait equipment changed?

[median oasis]

Yeah such as rammer being useless pretty much. Besides on high pen tds. Calibrated is always better

Since rammer got nerfed and calibrated got buffed

[sullen cloud]

You mean calibrated right?
Ok i see now

[median oasis]

Vents are somewhat viable now

[sullen cloud]

What else changed in equipment?

[median oasis]

I'll find the patch note. I think it was late may early June when this happened

[sullen cloud]

Thanks

[median oasis]

I'll just dm it i don't think I can send links in this server. Fairly strict

[sullen cloud]

Ok thanks

[violet timber]

Still every month

[blissful cave]

No

[sullen cloud]

Hey

[blissful cave]

And no I’ve retired it at the one year mark

[blissful cave]

Hei : )

[valid gale]

trying harder

[sullen cloud]

Oh ok

[blissful cave]

But I am starting to get a little bored of this
Waiting for tanks SUCKS,rn for October none of the events interest me,and all hope of realistic content is completely gone

[safe acorn]

Which is why you eventually need to either get on Enlisted or War Thunder or GHPC

Anything away from WG

[sullen cloud]

Yea no historical tanks recently?

[rose valve]

bro said war thunder

[blissful cave]

Nothing to really look forward to either except for Kpz 70P and MBT-B

[safe acorn]

Only the ERAC 105 and AMX-13-M24 (sort of)

[sullen cloud]

Join me on WTM for a bit every now and then

[blissful cave]

We did get Erich too tho (Turm III basically) and I like that one a lot

[sullen cloud]

Oh nice

[safe acorn]

If only