vehicles-discussion

[dusk flame]

Didn't we just have this? sigh

[languid vale]

Only in trainingsbattle when ur aiming at Red spots :)

[safe acorn]

It's a great tank tho

[dusk flame]

It is, but I dislike t9

The K-91 and this are great tanks

They're just.... in between tier tanks, unfortunately

[safe acorn]

Funny thing is
I can see Obj 752 being a great trainer for the new Vz 55 changes

[dusk flame]

Yeah, I have it. It's just... you know, if I wanna play t10 I'll pick a t10 tank, and if I wanna play t8 - I'll pick a t8 tank

[safe acorn]

I think for what 752 would cost and how it plays
It's better it exists over Tier X choices

[dusk flame]

It does, but it still has some boxes that need to be ticked to be a t10

[raw ember]

I dont care if i play against t8s or t10s in the t92e1

[safe acorn]

Like?

[dusk flame]

I don't have or know that one

[dapper whale]

is grille 15 good after next update since it's getting reload time buff

[dusk flame]

Well, there must be a reason it's not classified as t10

[dusk flame]

Grille is great right now, so any buff will prolly be yay

[safe acorn]

or not since Kunze Panzer was originally Tier X but got shafted to 7

[dusk flame]

oh well, on with the grind, still need 70 medium coins to get the last crate

[dusk flame]

got me there... 🤷‍♂️

[safe acorn]

Welp anyways WoTB would do good for a Tier XI
(Really tired of the Tier Xs and below rn)

[dusk flame]

You're tired of t10 and below? 😉

[safe acorn]

Yeah

[dusk flame]

that's all tanks

[wary summit]

Tier 11
Looks inside
Basically tier 10 with better handling

[safe acorn]

Aye that could have something entirely broke (279 moment)

Or whatever in god's name BZT-70 is

[dusk flame]

Ah yeah, the t92e1 is the small racer with a mega gun attached to it, right?

[safe acorn]

Or introduce an actually fun mode on par with Uprising or Big Boss

[raw ember]

Yep

[dusk flame]

yeah i hate facing that bugger 🙂

[wary summit]

4 consecutive nerfs and still is annoying

[safe acorn]

God imagine all these Vickers LT nerfs just for Manticore to come out as a collector

[dusk flame]

I'd really love a Progetto 46 so I too can drive it and pretend it's not op

[safe acorn]

Or just buy the Bourrasque

[dusk flame]

Last a-typical event crate... could've been worse?

well...

[wild lotus]

All t5s

[dusk flame]

lucky you

[safe acorn]

Astron is alright

[dusk flame]

I'll give it a try

I've been very unhappy with Chimera lately. Simply suffers too much with that aiming time and reload

[raw ember]

The chimera is a very good tank bro

[dusk flame]

It's got high alpha, a precise gun.... but dude, it takes forever to aim and the reload destroys you. It's very inaccurate if you don't have 3-4 secs to aim

But yeah, I guess you could play it as a TD

[unborn isle]

@dusk flame it's a support role tank, you want alot of space between you and your enemies, or alot of allies around you very very close by so after your shot the enemie can't just run up on u. It's a tricky tank to kinda figure out but once you play enough games in it, it's a beast.

[dusk flame]

Alright, thanks for the advice.

[unborn isle]

Question! I need advice please

I have the T69 American medium, LOVE IT ❤️. Should I free xp past the T 54 E1 and just go right to the T57 heavy. T54E1 looks like a step down compared to its lill brother and u lose the depression.

U gain 20 armored to turret but everything just looks blah to me am I wroung

[safe acorn]

Guess the vehicle

[slow coyote]

Ummm Cent?

[safe acorn]

Close

[slow coyote]

FV4005?

Based from cent mk3 hull

[safe acorn]

That's further away

[slow coyote]

Cent M.k 1?

[safe acorn]

Still further away

[slow coyote]

Cent mk4?

[safe acorn]

It's not a cent
It's part of its family but not it directly

[slow coyote]

FV4004 Conway?

[safe acorn]

Nope

[slow coyote]

FV4202?

[ashen crown]

FV 4202?
Oh wait he did it already

[slow coyote]

May be yes.....

[ashen crown]

From the stats it does match

[slow coyote]

awesner : FV4202

FV4202 max speed may be 36 km/h

[ashen crown]

Idk man

[wary summit]

It is the 4202

[slow coyote]

What-

Im right it's FV4202 aka 40t Cent

[zinc juniper]

Worth? Is there better options?
My only premium tier X is Sheri missile.

[wary summit]

Smells like someone got misinformed by WG xd

[slow coyote]

British suffers 😒

[safe acorn]

Britain cause their own suffering

[harsh elm]

s conq is imo a more fun and better option (neither are really that fun to play tbh)

[zinc juniper]

ohh what about a prem tank to make some good credits + fun or something?

[harsh elm]

carro is fun and will still be good after the re balance imo

im fairly tired rn so i cant think of many fun premium tier 10s off the top of my head rn sorry

[zinc juniper]

its okay, someone recommended me VK 90 because of doable hulldown and sidescrape capabilities, Im still not sure though.

I already tried that tank from my friend’s I don’t feel anything special about it (years ago idk about rebalance)

[opal tulip]

It has the REVERSE TRACK MECHANIC. DAMN

[wild lotus]

Just get sconq, probably the best t10 collectors

[zinc juniper]

This must be a new or recent collector T10 Tank, what does it offer?

[wild lotus]

Its not new, it offers great hulldown,good gun,decent ufp and mobility

[zinc juniper]

ufp?

Im sorry I recently came back to WOTB after a year or two of quit.

[solid fractal]

Upper frontal plate

[zinc juniper]

Sounds good, is this a Medium Tank? A heavy?

@solid fractal ah ok thanks

[wild lotus]

Heavy

[zinc juniper]

Sounds good but I gotta wait until it reruns in shop.

[worldly grotto]

I have both s conq and 1b and I prefer 1b, it has better gun handling better mobility and better hulldown capabilities.
S conq has slightly better alpha, way better sidescraping capabilities but lower mobility with longer aim time and pennable hatch that will be surprisingly penned very often.

So 1b is better hulldown, s conq is better in sidescraping and can also hulldown decently

U want better survivability pick s conq, u want more dmg and better gun pick 1b

[zinc juniper]

I see, for me the standard tier X are good enough for survival purposes so I just need a flexible Tank just like AMX Prot (Tier 9 Medium Tank), I bought it for about 10K gold few years ago and I still like the tank.

Or in shorter words, I’d prefer tanks like 1B or something.

[odd cove]

it all comes down to the player on how they utilize the tank

[errant oak]

I got it from alpha certificate and is very good (is the god of hulldown)

[zinc juniper]

You know what Ill buy it, thanks yall! 🙏

[blissful cave]

buys back Jpz E-100 and plays a game in it for fun
get the ice cream truck camo pop up
closes it No who would even buy that sh-
a second pop up for the same thing appears

Idk why you can get the same pop up twice at the same time

[lusty orbit]

why wg doesnt add this at tier 5 plz

[daring yew]

Mitsu is a better option here
That thing is too chonky and slow

[lusty orbit]

bro i just like it i want a maus at tier 5

[wary summit]

Medjay exists

[pulsar hatch]

On which tanks do you consider running gun rammer instead of calibrated shells ?

[earnest holly]

yeah I've been wondering about that, I've heard some reasons like it being too big but I can't really see that as being a reason when the TOG II* and German superheavies (and technically groundtank just going off the size) are in game, none of the Japanese heavy line except maybe Chi-Se is even real vehicles

[earnest holly]

I use gun rammer on most things, I would much rather have a faster reload and usually I don't need the extra penetration

[pulsar hatch]

Hmm interesting to see that despite gun rammer being nerfed

[earnest holly]

darn I didn't even notice it was nerfed

[pulsar hatch]

It went from 7% increase to 5%

[dusk flame]

Obj. 777 II any good?

[pulsar frigate]

very nice heat pen

turret armor paper if they spam gold against you tho and no gun depression

[wary summit]

Anything else is better than it

[dusk flame]

So this or concept 1B?

[dusk flame]

off that's rough

[pulsar frigate]

concept 100%

[dusk flame]

Thanks, 1st match

[pulsar frigate]

pretty low ace req wth

[dusk flame]

Seems so - Does this look okay with Concept 1B?

[pulsar frigate]

whats the pen increase with Calibrated?

[dusk flame]

258 -> 271
310 -> 350
53 -> 57

[pulsar frigate]

Definitely take cali then

[dusk flame]

will do

[modest umbra]

can someone explain to me where exactly are the remaining 5,75 tonnes in T20

[dusk flame]

Weed and beer?

[modest umbra]

considering the fact that both tanks has literally the same cannon, turret and engine? +look simmilarly where the only difference i could find is that one has more shades

dont tell me that shades on the T-20 weight 5 tons

[wary summit]

T20 is a medium, T21 is a projected light tank variant of it

[modest umbra]

ye i get it but both look identical still weigh differently and in this case LT and MT dont count since it doesnt change anything

[fast compass]

What about ammo load out? Does t20 carry more

[modest umbra]

nop both have same cannon and both carry 70 shells

[wary summit]

Less armour

[modest umbra]

if less armour is the thing then why the tanks look identical (T21 is even little bit bigger) where exactly is the armour shown then??

[wary summit]

Lord have mercy

[fast compass]

Left is t20. So if it is bigger even tho they look the same

[modest umbra]

width 1,4 meters??

[blissful cave]

It’s about armor thickness
T21 is just a light tank version of T20 so the armor thickness is simply thinner but overall same shape

[dusk flame]

Concept 1B honestly seems kinda weak

[pulsar frigate]

hull down impenetrable

[dusk flame]

positioning then

[pulsar hatch]

My E5 has almost 18 horsepower/ton and a 42 km/h top speed

My Type 71 has barely 13 horsepower/ton and 37 km/h top speed

But I feel like my Type is faster than my E5 😓
Is that normal ?

The only stuff that’s better for the Type is the terrain resistance values

[harsh elm]

dont use super charger

[dusk flame]

okay thanks

[wary summit]

Well you've answered your own question lol

[blissful cave]

Bruh they really be putting anything in draws now huh💀
Somebody said Matilda black prince draw is coming

It’s a tier 5 worth like 2K gold

[deep belfry]

Everyone has to be milked, including low-tier sealclubbers

[blissful cave]

What happened to actual shop offers you don’t see new tanks come as shop offers for ages

[valid gale]

You do know plates can be thicker on the inside

[silver monolith]

They will keep 8.8 skirt if they give it PBR unlike Panther II

[wary summit]

Best 1v1 tournament tank 💤

[worldly grotto]

Calibrated shells, enhanced gun laying drive, vertical stabilizer and enhanced armor

[worldly grotto]

It's one of the best hull down tanks in the entire game due to the absence of hatch, it just needs getting used to, with ur accuracy, aiming time and dpm u can easily hold choke points on ur own even against 2 or 3 tanks

Imo if u can't work 1b in a hulldown then u can't hulldown in any other tank, u just need more practice

[wary loom]

in reality you will get rushed or people will drive away after seeing your red turret

[dusk flame]

Thanks

[worldly grotto]

Exactly, no one will dare go against 1b in a hulldown position because it's just a lost trade, he can easily shot ur hatch with his accuracy and aiming time and u won't be able to do anything in return, so u just force them to switch position and leave the choke point

[dusk flame]

Yeah I actually forced an E-100 to withdraw yesterday 1on1

He didn't even shoot at me

Seems like a decent bundle?

Shame one is t7 though

Eve nthough the t7 looks like it's a better tank than the t8

Better hold onto my gold

[wary summit]

Overpriced

8.5k or 7.5k would've been a good deal

[dusk flame]

yeah read up on the tanks, seems meh

[dusk flame]

I wanted to start grinding the E 50M line, but i'm out of silver heh

[sturdy glen]

Well, maybe, but I’d still prefer my e5. Gun seems so much more reliable(no standard apcr, better pen on premium, better aiming and dispersion). And, yes, Concept does have a hatch too.

[wild lotus]

Concept is -10 iirc and e5 is -8

[dusk flame]

not much of a hatch 😉

[dusk flame]

Good luck hitting that 😄

Ramming with the Chimera is fun as hell... just did 900 damage on a light ramming them 😄

[sturdy glen]

That’s true. Just a matter of personal preference, I suppose.

[safe acorn]

It's quite easy to hit the hatch with dispersion values below .3

[dusk flame]

🤷‍♂️

[safe acorn]

I mean from what I experience fighting it anyways

[dusk flame]

All tanks have weaknesses

[wary summit]

Just groove around to throw off people's aim

Shrimple as

[worldly grotto]

Just raise ur gun high and u hide ur hatch 😅

[worldly grotto]

Good luck hitting when the enemy 1b is raising his gun high and wiggling it

[safe acorn]

And don't get flanked
If other heavies are allergic to it
Concept 1B is especially

@worldly grotto and be removed from shooting for awhile

[worldly grotto]

Shoot , aim high till reload
Rinse and repeat
And remember 1b has a very good aiming time so it won't be a problem to wiggle the gun

[safe acorn]

Thing is the cupola covers a huge area tho

[wild lotus]

As if raising gun helps hide that cupola

[dusk flame]

people I've met while driving the 1B haven't been too smart then

[worldly grotto]

Then go hull down 🙂

[safe acorn]

You rarely ever have that type of encounter

[worldly grotto]

U r showing a picture of a hulldown tank on a flat ground

[worldly grotto]

That's in hulldown position, if u can position ourself correctly u don't even have to hide ur hatch with gun

[wild lotus]

Yeah,as if you get to use that hulldown everytime

[safe acorn]

Hulldown is just covering your hull
A full depressed hulldown position like that is hard to comeby provided the gun shooting at you is below you

[worldly grotto]

No offense mate, 1b is a hulldown tank, if don't use it like that then u r using it wrong

[zinc juniper]

Any other Prem/Collect Tier X worth buying?
Currently Own:
Concept 1B
Sheridan Missile.
(Preferably Flexible Tanks, Skill dependent doesn’t matter for me)

[safe acorn]

121B, Kpz 50T
VK 90.01 are good choices

[worldly grotto]

True, that's why u need to position ourself correctly on each map to get the most of hulldown capabilities

[zinc juniper]

Sounds great, what does 121B offer?

[safe acorn]

Busted gun handling
Adaptive concealment
Pretty alright armor

[wild lotus]

Im saying that you almost never use that type of hulldown you showing,cuz -6/8 is just enough,and sconq offers better protection against multiple enemies

[worldly grotto]

S conq and Vk90 are very good, xm66f also if u like to gamble

[zinc juniper]

Alright thanks for the recommendations

[safe acorn]

Might replace the T95E6 for the Sconq

[worldly grotto]

Well I have both s conq and 1b, indeed the conq has better survivability specially in sidescraping, but it's gun handling is very annoying

U need to aim for ages leaving u vulnerable for shots

[safe acorn]

Well it ain't getting any better

[zinc juniper]

oh is that rlly true?
If its true im not buying sConq

[worldly grotto]

That's why I prefer the 1b over the conq, personally I can do a lot better in 1b

[dusk flame]

Wish there was a way of more reliably getting the tanks you want

[worldly grotto]

Compared to 1b I mean
S conq is very powerful tank, was my all time favorite u til I got 1b

[zinc juniper]

Im looking foward to something like VK90 or meds/light with good gun
Even a good TD is fine by me like badger

[worldly grotto]

Both Vk90 and conq are good choices but vk is way harder to play in , conq is more versatile

[dusk flame]

The 121B actually looks okay on paper

[zinc juniper]

Skill dependent doesn’t matter to me. I’ve fought a VK90 before its difficult to handle.

[wild lotus]

It's pretty easy

[zinc juniper]

In the hands of the right player and 1v1 situation Idk man

[worldly grotto]

I agree , sidescraping Vk90 is one of the most annoying tanks to face

[wild lotus]

In the hands of the right player most of tanks will perform great

[zinc juniper]

Tanks have weaknesses

[safe acorn]

And it is pretty great on practice (for me anyways)

[wild lotus]

And so does vk🤷

[dusk flame]

20k is a bit though

[safe acorn]

Is it still on "sale?" Damn thought it's gone by now

[zinc juniper]

121B is on sale?

[dusk flame]

I have it as personal offer

[safe acorn]

I still have Prog 65, WZ-113GFT and T57 Heavy I keep putting off from buying

[raw ember]

Ik
He said that the concept doesn't have much of a hatch when it does

[dusk flame]

this is the offer I've got

[zinc juniper]

Is there a same offer but just the tank and full eqquipments for 17500 gold or something? Thats what I did to 1B.

[dusk flame]

I just think 20k is quite some gold

[raw ember]

Why?
Get the full bundle, the camo and containers are worth like 7500 gold

[zinc juniper]

Gold = hard to get
Camo = camo container exists and Im fine with normal camo as F2P.
Creates = RNG = bad stuff
Currency? Meh.

[raw ember]

Bruh
You're literally playing 2,5k for 5 awesome containers, 5 mega containers and it's camo
One dude got over 7k gold back from the containers

[zinc juniper]

Do you think Im that lucky? Smh

[raw ember]

Ridiculous argument
Those ten containers and it's camos an boosters are well worth the extra 2.5k

[dusk flame]

What tank are we talking about now?

[zinc juniper]

I literally openned the event container and got a tier V

On christmas snow globe I got T28 defender multiple times and Lycaon (idk his name correctly) and i sold them both

[raw ember]

So?
Getting 2.5k gold from those containers will be easy

[zinc juniper]

Im done with creates they’re worth 0 to me.

[raw ember]

Ok enjoy wasting your money for no reason I don't care

[zinc juniper]

Hes trynna tell me that 20k offer (1B + extra) is worth more than the 17.5k ver

[dusk flame]

oh :S

[safe acorn]

You don't really need the crates
So the 17.5k one is fine

[daring yew]

You can wait for T95E6 or 30B

[zinc juniper]

finally thank you! 🙏

[raw ember]

I'm speechless at this stupidity

Watch this video https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DPoQU1tCPCm4&ved=2ahUKEwj9ksew2LqIAxVUhv0HHdl3DewQwqsBegQIGBAE&usg=AOvVaw1nTw1q5UVeehoTjoq0TmnS

[zinc juniper]

30B got buffed?

[safe acorn]

Why spend more on chances when you can spend less for an absolute

[zinc juniper]

Bro speaking facts 🗣️

[safe acorn]

Yeah and then you look at the comments and the guy himself says it's not worth it

[wary summit]

Currently cracked this update, extra meh in the next rebalance

[raw ember]

Cuz he probably spent a lot of gold
Here you are spending 2.5k for ten containers

[dusk flame]

Still in doubt about that 121B, but I guess I will be forever heh

[raw ember]

In the store you literally paid 2.5k gold for 1 awesome container
Think about jt

[zinc juniper]

Ohh sad

[zinc juniper]

WG tricking some players real

[raw ember]

How much gold do yoh have?

[zinc juniper]

Nearly enough to buy the next tier X (if your talking about me)

[safe acorn]

Then just buy the 17.5k option

[raw ember]

Oh ok I understand now
A shame

[zinc juniper]

I already bought that, I just sold some tanks that I don’t need and I have enough gold for another Tier X
(Sold tier 7s and few 8s)

So I came here for recommendations which yall already did and I thank yall for that 🙏

[wary loom]

The point was that classic hulldown carrying doesn't happens very often these days imo

[dusk flame]

you usually have 3-4 fast lights or mediums going gang-bros on you

[raw ember]

That looks like some bad financial decisions me (idk bout you you might not care about the tanks you sold)

[safe acorn]

Whatever it is just get the cheaper option anyways

Spending even more money on a game with no support for player market won't be worth it

[wary loom]

If you look down on an enemy using your max gun depression, he'll go away. If you face him at the same level, he'll hatch you, especially on PC.

Or shoot HE and hide, like I do in E100 because why not

250-300 dmg and destroyed modules is fine, better than waiting too long on the shot

[zinc juniper]

I don’t spend money on this game I’ve been F2P
The reason why I had so much gold: (look at Restore Tank)

[raw ember]

@zinc juniper

[zinc juniper]

Galmbing Addiction fr

[raw ember]

No
They are smart

[safe acorn]

in all seriousness Tier VIIIs are enough

[wary loom]

U sold 50 ex-collectors?

[zinc juniper]

yeahh I only play Tier 8-10s
I sold the weak tier 8s

[safe acorn]

Like...?

[wild lotus]

T77

[zinc juniper]

Fixer is basically stock

[safe acorn]

Oh alright then so not too bad

[wild lotus]

Should've kept the ts,good tank

[zinc juniper]

TS is pennable through the turret
Even if u slightly turn it

[safe acorn]

And then you realize the Keiler exists and does its job better

It's literally a joke now (WoT replaced what was the original E-75TS with our Keiler model)

[zinc juniper]

Wotb powercreep premium tanks wooo

[raw ember]

More evidence

[wary loom]

This^
Nearly every collector should have a tech-tree alternativ e

[raw ember]

So I hope you're happy 😊

[wild lotus]

Bro,you made that up and giving to us as evidence

[zinc juniper]

Tbh with you even EXP is better, Ive made multiple good games with it.

[raw ember]

So? I'm talking about the 121b bundle. You can have it bland or pay 2.5k extra for the containers

[safe acorn]

I think I remembered spending 20k on the earlier Black Friday type sales
Got me 4 strong Tier VIIIs

[zinc juniper]

Oh yeah and the OP prot, bought it for somewhere 10-12K gold years ago and I still like it.

[wary loom]

Tier 9 hurts my brain

[safe acorn]

Tier IX is fun

Should actually buy the Kpz-70 and not put it off but now I can't because the snail is more important

[wary loom]

Anyway, dude who has 50 collectors to sell @zinc juniper

[raw ember]

Why did u buy the is5 for 1.5k gold but sell it for only 300k credits?

[safe acorn]

It's a premium
Only collectors give gold

[raw ember]

Bro are yoh blind?

[dusk flame]

the Kpz-70 looks great

[zinc juniper]

Ive been playing this game for more than 7 years IS-5 has made great job on its days especially tourneys, now it got powercrept

[wary summit]

Tier 9

Has to be weak enough to not stomp tier 8 but strong enough to not get stomped by tier 10

Fun

[raw ember]

Powercrept*
Still not worth selling but you could always buy it back

[wary loom]

Most kpfz70 players doesn't seem to be useful tbh, idk why. Lack of dpm?

[zinc juniper]

Its not even worth playing it (for me)

[safe acorn]

Probably rush and overexpose

[wary loom]

They hide

[dusk flame]

121B looks kinda fun on youtube

[raw ember]

I understand. The thing is legit the worst t8 in the game

[dawn mango]

nah

[zinc juniper]

Prot is different though even against tier X it can still manage if you look on papers

[dawn mango]

im scare how they balance tanks

[safe acorn]

Yeah that's why I said
Tier IX is fun

[zinc juniper]

real

[dawn mango]

ye fr

[safe acorn]

Another extreme

[wary loom]

I can understand it, kpfz has weak side armor
isnt it HE-pennable?

[safe acorn]

I'm only getting Kpz-70 for the historical sentimentality

[wild lotus]

No

[zinc juniper]

Its basically outdated tank, at those times T8s didn’t perform as good as today.

[wary summit]

Kpz got pretty good side armour

Not enough to go dumb-out sidescraping, but enough to not get overmatch

[wary loom]

Is5 is okay man. Your default 400 dmg russian tank

[zinc juniper]

with the Aim of standard soviet yeah

[safe acorn]

I'm still holding on to it because of the 11s reload and the mobility

Switching to it after a couple of games with the Type 57

[wary summit]

Poor man's Obj 252u

[cobalt monolith]

Kpz 70 is basically a tier 9.5 tank, I really like it

[wary loom]

Idk it seems like a victim tank

Used to bully it most of the time

[safe acorn]

The front armor is good-great against Tier IX and VIII

Tier X it's just gone

[wary summit]

Me when confirmation bias screws my perception of a subject

[plucky summit]

I’d go so far as to say a poor man’s T-2020 😉

[cobalt monolith]

for me the best tactic is to utilize mobility of Kpz 70 and support mediums, that high alpha is very handy

[wary summit]

Fair enough tbh

[zinc juniper]

If you look at the amount of tier II-VII prem/collect we’ve got in this game nowadays then you’d already find the answer to that.

[wary loom]

252U more aim time than is5, no? NO THANKS

[plucky summit]

Though 20 more alpha

[zinc juniper]

….
I sold IS-5 cuz of the Aim, can’t imagine that.

[raw ember]

Bro just let the hands of Stalin guide ur shell

[plucky summit]

Hm. BS outdated or different equipment and provisions in your garage? @wary loom

[zinc juniper]

to the birds fr

[raw ember]

Much worse armor and 5 degrees of gun depression

[dusk flame]

I just bought this package for 20k gold

The Extras I got from crates:
5200 Gold
Lockbox key
Annihilator
Skorpion G
A lot of free xp
A lot of boosters
etc

[wary loom]

Crates 👎

[raw ember]

@zinc juniper 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯 told u blud

[wary summit]

Politician 🫢

[plucky summit]

Those crates did give two great tanks though

[wary loom]

Gamble is gamble

[zinc juniper]

“blud”
I don’t have a gambling addiction and Im not in the mood of getting more boosters and “200 gold”
The typo ripp

[dusk flame]

Hey, I wasn't about to stir up a discussion, just thought I would share because I think it was okay 🙂

[raw ember]

Well you missed out big time and still won't acknowledge all the evidence against you

[plucky summit]

Can’t say for certain, unfortunately

[safe acorn]

https://youtu.be/bUBih8GFtfc?feature=shared

If anyone was asking if Maus could be modernized

[wary loom]

Rechecked it using blitzkit. They have the same aim time

[plucky summit]

Equipment/provisions diff I guess

[zinc juniper]

@raw ember

[raw ember]

Huh?
PATHETIC.

[wary loom]

World of Gamble Blitz

[zinc juniper]

[raw ember]

I'm out
I'm pretty sure everyone knows u lost the argument so cya

[plucky summit]

Naw

[zinc juniper]

Creates are nice for the people willing to make WG ez profit so they can send us better updates fr

[safe acorn]

Let's go gambling

Aw dang it
Aw dang it
Aw dang it
Aw dang it

[dusk flame]

I've gotten enough from gambling today 😉

[wary loom]

they can make profit the normal way. Put up an offer and sell x for y amount gold

[plucky summit]

A debt

[dusk flame]

I don't gamble with money I can't spare

[dusk flame]

Worth it?

How does it compare to T56?

[pulsar hatch]

not really the same playstyle
The 252U is like an IS7 while the T56 is more like a 60tp

[dusk flame]

I read it's more or less obsolete now

They really wanna sell those old tanks huh

[safe acorn]

It's Tier VIII so it'll be flying off the shelves anyways (6.5k is Hella cheap)

[dusk flame]

Yeah, I know - just read there's no point to it anymore because of newer tanks

[safe acorn]

Holds up pretty well if played carefully

[pulsar hatch]

I don’t agree the 252U is a very good tank

[dusk flame]

Why would you pick that over all the other t8 heavy choices?

[pulsar hatch]

Alpha, Insane side armor

The hull armor is also very good if you can hide that lower plate

[dusk flame]

reload is kinda silly though?

[fast grove]

ik i just posted this but wotb is a lottery game not a tank game its relevant

[safe acorn]

It's standard reload on the 122

[dusk flame]

Still not convinced that's the best 6.5k gold to spend

[safe acorn]

I think the cheapest Tier VIIIs will only come out during black Friday sales at 6k

And they're around the same age as 252U

Its certainly better than HWK30 which sold at 11k gold

During a black Friday sale

[wary summit]

Masterful gambit by WG

[dusk flame]

121B actually is fun once you get used to the play style

[safe acorn]

You bought the 121B?

[blissful cave]

I got the same 252 pop up (T_T)

Why can it never be T95E2 it’s been like months of doing pretty much every pop up tank except that one

[safe acorn]

Well consider how many Tier VIII Prems there are
Chances are pretty slim

[blissful cave]

There’s a select group that can be these cheap pop ups
And if you have a tank in your garage you won’t get the pop up for it so I got my chances as best I could

[safe acorn]

Then again there's pop ups for different tiers as well

[blissful cave]

I’ve only seen it do tier 8 and then skoda T45

[blissful cave]

I had German bulldog and 252 but sold them but unfortunately that counts as not having them so they can still be pop ups

I bet I can put together a list rn of all the possible pop ups and see how small it really is
(Excluding tanks I have or premiums bought back just to increase chances but just the credit ones)

T95E2 (the one i actually want)
T-44-100
Type 59
WZ 111
59 patton
German bulldog
Is-2sh (I just sold this one tho probably should’ve kept it for chances)
252
So 8 tanks but it keeps cycling the other 7

Tho some weeks were taken by me figuring out it won’t offer duplicates and buy back stuff like AMX cdc or skoda t45

[dusk flame]

Yeah scroll up - I even posted what I got from the crates etc

[safe acorn]

Wonder how rare Chi-Nu Kai is

[wary summit]

Nope

[silver monolith]

Old 4202 without cupola

[deep belfry]

Reduced reload time, increased front hull thickness, added reactive armor

[wary summit]

Too bad most of it didn't address the main issue of the thing

[blissful cave]

Being?
(I’m going to buy the tank soon)

[wary summit]

And APCR as standard

And the shell velocity on the thing sucks, barely even hitting 1km/s

[raw ember]

Bro the amx literally has better aim time and better gun handling
Do your fact checks sir

[raw ember]

Apcr standard sucks but idk why you'd need more than 800mps for a frontline heavy

[wary summit]

Why not

[raw ember]

If you know how to use autoaim properly like me it's not a problem

[wary summit]

Ad hominem

[dusk flame]

I don't understand why they introduced auto loaders and magazine to the game... they like dominate everything

[polar lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[dusk flame]

yes pleas resist... geez grow up

[polar lodge]

If you cant deal with autoloaders its honestly a you problem,
Autoloaders can(sometimes) rush you without penalty because primarily no one was helping to shoot him down, if you were just more careful or more going with your teammates, you wouldnt complain about autoloaders in the game

[dusk flame]

Thanks for stating the obvious bro

I don't really want/need to argue with you, so you're right in everything you say

But, you just said "skill issue" - and then you said it's team dependent. So my skill, the team's skill - what is it?

[polar lodge]

"i dont really want/need to argue"
"Youre right in everything you say"
Youre sparking an "argument" here
Also, i never said skill issue

[dusk flame]

You're right. If I want to discuss with people who use gifs, I'll talk to my teenage kids. Good evening, Sir/Madam

I'll tell you what. We got off on the wrong foot. Let's forget this happened. Start Fresh - Do you agree that having a tank with a magazine or auto loader is a clear advantage over those which don't?

[tulip steppe]

are we comparing same types of vehicles or just in general ?

[dusk flame]

heavy/medium/TD

If there's some sort of statistics, we can see what people prefer to play in

[violet timber]

English only

[bright forge]

i just got the 59-Patton for 5k gold, played around 5 gamesa nd average 2.3k but some games everybody just magicaly hits the cupla. is it a good tank of was i just lucky w mm?

[dusk flame]

Remember how auto aim works on phone/tablet. If they let it stick and just wait, it'll hit same spot every time

[tulip steppe]

you're in honeymoon MM for your first few battles in a new tank, but its just a mid medium, not the worst though

[bright forge]

oh right

[tulip steppe]

where can i get that kind of auto aim for my device?

[dusk flame]

it's integrated on the mobile version

if you aim to a specific point, don't lose your target, it'll stick to that spot

[bright forge]

okay. any tips on playing it better? does it have any sort of custon playstyle?

[tulip steppe]

ridge line using its -10 depression when you can but have to be snap shooting a lot because of that cupola,. good gun handling so run vstab because you should be peekaboo firing

[bright forge]

thanks!

[tulip steppe]

[deep belfry]

Spooky tall man

[blissful cave]

#blitz-art message just finished my 60TP Lewandoskiego model

[brave karma]

Guys I just bought the American t34 for 5k gold can I research the usa with it?

[blissful cave]

No the xp is only for itself (which the tank doesn’t have any researchable stuff so it doesn’t really go anywhere)
It’s just a stand alone tank but you do still get some free xp by playing it and then more credits than tech trees

[safe acorn]

He could've had greater fun
But ig regular T34 fun will suffice

[brave karma]

Was it worth it for 5k?

[brave karma]

Thanks btw

[blissful cave]

Yea

[safe acorn]

Uhuh

[tulip steppe]

for 5k ya its worth it, plus its one of the original premiums so WG will always keep it competitive

[deep belfry]

And yet they forgot about the Super Pershing

[wary loom]

He's right tho

Autoloaders seem to be sligthy more effective, cuz they have a clear advantage

[unborn isle]

Uhhhh did they nerf tiger 1 in last 3 years, I come back and it's so trash now, unless it's top tier. It's like they nerfed it back to be a 3rd line tank but has no turret armor depression or concealment. So it's basically a peekaboo from flat land as far back as possible style now. Very sad, used to be top 5 favorites now I try to get myself to use it and 1 game and just wana melt it down. RIP TIGER 1 🫡😩

[safe acorn]

Uh no? (Like concealment ever mattered for Heavies)

[unborn isle]

Please explain

[wild lotus]

They didn't nerfed it or anything

[unborn isle]

It doesn't unless it's a heavy with no armor or depression

[safe acorn]

It's just haven't been touched
Tiger P got buffed to usefulness but that's about it
Tiger I is still the same after the armor buff

[unborn isle]

Where u supposed to be in this tank, it's not a brawler that's 100 percent, not in hills even more 100 percent

[violet timber]

Tiger 1 is still pretty strong. Good gun, good turret, and it’s not even slow tbh

[unborn isle]

A support tank now just peekaboo from behind big tanks

[safe acorn]

Tiger I is a raw heavium
Go down the med lane and just rip
Either that or just let other heavies rush first

[unborn isle]

I used to be able to brawl, snipe pretty much whatever I wanted to do in it. So sounds like it's not nerfed just left in the past as others surpassed it in armor and depression

[safe acorn]

If you're crying about the depression
Tiger P has 6

[unborn isle]

I have tiger p I know it's goid

I'm tlkn bout tiger 1 not p or anyother. I'm wander y it's not a beast anymore

[violet timber]

7 degrees is more than enough lol, if you’re complaining about that, I can see why you’re struggling in one of the better tier 7 heavies

[deep belfry]

Or maybe it has to do with the fact that the Tiger I is one of the most popular tanks in the game and most people know how to counter it

[unborn isle]

3 years ago it was a lord now idk what it is except a pretty tank in my garage

[wild lotus]

It was never a beast,it was just very good

[safe acorn]

Yeah I don't think Tier VII also changed alot since these past 3 years
Only hybrid tanks and that's about it
If for uptiers then, it's been the same case since 3 years ago (same with other tier 7s)

[unborn isle]

7 degrees everything has 6 oooo boy 1 more degree watch out now

[violet timber]

You’re the one complaining about gun dep on a tank that doesn’t struggle with gun dep

[unborn isle]

It struggles in the game period gun depression is just 1 thing I mention let that go

[safe acorn]

If you play it as a heavium;
It just does fine

[wild lotus]

Yk,-5 is enough to play on all of the maps,and you out here complaining about -7

[violet timber]

It doesn’t struggle, pretty much everything you’ve said about it is just a lack of ability to play the tank well

[unborn isle]

Ok ty ill go run with lots and meds see if I figure something out if that don't do anything it's melted

[deep belfry]

Good mobility, decent armor, good firepower. If your strugle just because it lacks depression then it's not the Tiger's fault anymore

[unborn isle]

@wild lotus bruh will u let the depression go, ur depressing me

If someone says depression 1 more time ima put my head through a wall

[deep belfry]

Depre-

[violet timber]

Tiger 1 overperforms for all but the lowest win rate players 🤷‍♂️

[unborn isle]

Ok so I just suk now great thanks

[safe acorn]

I think yeah for 400 battles with a super unicum rating
I think Tiger I is one of the better tanks I've played

[wary loom]

I remember playing Tiger 1 for the first time years ago and the armor was disappointing. I had expected better.
Than I adjusted my playstyle and tried to use it's dpm to bully everyone

[deep belfry]

Tiger I is the jack of all trades for beginner players

[unborn isle]

Party on garth

[safe acorn]

I think the only tank I ever feel like I've stepped onto a stomping ground consistently is the Leo 1

[wary loom]

Stay mobile and rush lone tanks for 1v1, destroy them with ur dpm

[unborn isle]

Tiger 1 and lowe 2 of my fave tanks of all time, was highly feared I'm both, now I'm scared of getting in them

I do gr8 in lowe but impossible to win a game in even as top gunner every time

[safe acorn]

Yeah because teammates are just tragic

[deep belfry]

The thing with the Löwe is that its armor is not as homogeneous as the Tiger II

[unborn isle]

I'm over 2k dmg 80% of the time in lowe and not trash dmg at end, talking wreaking havoc but lose every game in it

[wary loom]

I must agree tho that all those iconic tanks seem to be powercrept, eg. T34-85, Panther, T44 ..

[safe acorn]

I thought T-44 is still a decent tank
Panther has been nerfed and T-34-85 idek

[deep belfry]

M26 is pretty good imo

[unborn isle]

T34 85 completely left behind used to love

T32 hated but love again super weird tank

[wary loom]

Pretty sad tbh, people go for fantasy tanks like Helsing and Lycan and other stopid bullcr

[violet timber]

Panther is still solid, T-44 is alright, and T-34-85 is tier 6 so nobody cares

[unborn isle]

I like grinding win loss in cyborg tir 6

[deep belfry]

The Panther's DPM is comfortable and the long barrel is quite accurate

[safe acorn]

Panther II is a hidden gem
Panthera also

[wary loom]

Played Panther 2 recently, such a victim tank lol

[violet timber]

💀

[deep belfry]

Imagine if they gave the Kwk 43 L/100 to the Panther II like on PC

[unborn isle]

Leopard tanks lookin pretty good nvr used

[wary loom]

Panterra B is awesome
Man the progetto line was so fun

[safe acorn]

I don't think it needs it
I mean it's good but
I think Panther II is fine

[violet timber]

I need to stop coming in this server, I’m gonna get banned sooner or later for ripping into some terrible takes

[wary loom]

Go ahaed Im listening

[unborn isle]

Blc biz tht lill derpy lite is a monster on console on this unless

Usless

[safe acorn]

Hot take

WoTB can handle Frontline mode but refuse to

[unborn isle]

When they brought in the weak point eye assistant in this game that was the dumbest thing I've ever seen

Killed alot of good slow tanks in a big way rooks know where to shoot everything now because the game shows you pfff so dumb

[safe acorn]

That's why realistic exists

P.s it's on right now

[unborn isle]

I don't like realistic, I just hate that weapoint assist

I like on other platforms but not mobile, to hard to see everything

E100 first tank I sold when that came out killed it tbh

[safe acorn]

E-100 is alr

[unborn isle]

Alr?

[violet timber]

Armor highlighting has always been a thing in blitz, there is no “when it came out”

[unborn isle]

Not true I played for years without it, then it came out

[violet timber]

It is true lol

[unborn isle]

Unless I'm extremely confused with xbox

Well either way it's lame and shouldn't exist

[valid gale]

Will never be warthunder

[safe acorn]

Mobile*

[safe acorn]

Well teams would suck even more if you removed it now

[wary loom]

Why would you sell E100?

[violet timber]

E100 is gonna be a monster next update

[karmic glen]

I hope so

[wary loom]

Armor is decent
Gun is nowadays a joke tho

[safe acorn]

Wym the 150mm gun is getting nerfed
The 128mm gun is getting buffed (since people have to research the former)
The Accel is getting a slight buff but that's about it

[violet timber]

Running it with the 128 is gonna be pretty insane

[wary loom]

Looks laughable that mini gun

[safe acorn]

The 128 is now made bearable

[violet timber]

It’s getting nearly 3k dpm lmao, it’s not just bearable, it’s on the verge of meta

[karmic glen]

Im still going with the 150

[wary loom]

They destroyed the 152 mm for some reason, it's barely playable. I want to be able to hit my targets not play casino

[safe acorn]

Ah yes until the E5 comes along and mag dumps prammo

[violet timber]

Don’t run the 150, the 128 is the stronger gun

@safe acorn except the E5 doesn’t get as much health or force enemies to fire prammo

[wary loom]

Yeah hulldown you'll be shredded by those us/brit tanks kekw

Better take the 152mm and splash some HE on their turrets whenever they peak

[violet timber]

If you don’t understand why the E100 is gonna be strong next update, just don’t play it lol

[wary loom]

Strong on paper != strong in reality

[safe acorn]

Yeah because damn well no heavy is getting a good shot off the pixel cupola weakspot of the E5 even with prammo

[violet timber]

It’s not just strong on paper but okay lmao

[wary loom]

E5 cupola is (or was idk) super storng

[safe acorn]

Even if you don't have prammo as an E5 to get the E-100

You have busted accuracy to hit the E-100 cupola

[wary loom]

You know in a lot of matches you peak and shot and hide, the one with the lower alpha has a disadvantage

[violet timber]

I’m well aware of how the game works lol, but the 128 still has 460 alpha, and 2.9k dpm, on a platform that can force prammo usage, with 2,750 base hp

[safe acorn]

And the low penetration of the 128

327mm of APCR pen with calibrated on

[wary loom]

Otherwise high dpm would solely dominate, but it doesn't. You can track shot and deal that juicy 700 dmg, back up and try to gain a 2-3 secs advantage while E5 repairs and rushes you again

[karmic glen]

This is the reason im still going with the 150

[wary loom]

Yeah the german gun Problem, Ap / apcr is meh, you gotta run cali

[safe acorn]

Against an E5 I don't think it matters

[violet timber]

Like I said, if you don’t understand why E100 with the 128 is gonna be a monster, don’t bother playing it

[wary loom]

True E5 hull is pennable from every angle lmao

[wary loom]

I do and I'll def give it a try, because the 152mm turned into a casino gun nowadays. however idk if im gonna stick with it

[safe acorn]

I meant hulldown (I mean same goes for E-100 with the E-5 anyways)

[small trout]

guys, would you run your skoda t56 with refined gun or vertical stabilizer?
most of the time your shots aren't fully aimed in, so what would give you the best mileage?

[safe acorn]

Refined
VStabs just reduce aim time while moving

[tulip steppe]

we were just talking about the e100 128mm last month, it'll now be quicker for players to unlock 152mm if they don't have the free xp, i don't think the 128 has been adjusted in awhile

[robust orchid]

What's the ammo rack kill speedrun record?

[fervent elm]

I think it might be 5s

[deep belfry]

Tbh the 128mm will have a better performance than the 152mm

[fervent elm]

Kwachi has a vid of his teammate doing a blindshot ammorack at the very start of a game

[robust orchid]

Drat, I almost broke it, racked a T-22 Medium earlier right as the match started in my Jageroo

[safe acorn]

Yeah because they slapped the 150mm around
Could've not just done that and readjust the 128mm on its own

[deep belfry]

WG going for a historical accurate E-100 gameplay

What need will there be to develop the 152mm module?

[safe acorn]

I mean the 150mm gun is also historically accurate

[tulip steppe]

won't get overmatch as often as the 150

[fervent elm]

@proud magnet can you post the clip?

[deep belfry]

Fr? I thought WG invented that Kwk

[proud magnet]

This?

[fervent elm]

Yep thanks
@robust orchid

[robust orchid]

I damn near thought that was my shot too, same map, same tank 💀

Lemme send the replay real quick

[safe acorn]

Nuh it exists

@deep belfry https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/282134-15cm-kwk-44l-38/

For simplicities sake

[robust orchid]

4-5 something ish seconds 💀

Except this one is from the opposite angle/side of the map and on realistic mode

[wary loom]

Btw, E4 worth it? I have T30 but never bought E4 lmao.
grinded up to t30 just because its a monster

[robust orchid]

Probably, it's basically a Heavy Tank in disguise with the amount of HP and armor it has

[wary summit]

E4's a downgrade over the T30 anyway

It works as an armoured Grille, but that's really much it

[fervent elm]

Oh realistic mode. Explains why the leopard was spotted so quickly

[robust orchid]

I was actually aiming for the Leopard, but that T-22 ate my Tungsten charged 17cm AP shell instead kek

[wild lotus]

I mean e4 have some advantages over t30, but t30 will always be dominant

[wary summit]

Getting APCR as a standard round for such a large calibre and having barely any gun depression is depressing

I would rather get back the poor cupola if it means I get the AP shells back

[meager spindle]

More depressing to think about than the gun can over the side

[wary summit]

-4° over the sides

Wunderbar

[meager spindle]

Isn't it -3

Oh, it's 4, surprising, I remember it being 3 for the longest time

[honest rampart]

this maybe?

[wild lotus]

E4 has better pen and better turret armor, thought its arguable cuz of cupola

[opal tulip]

I love the t30. That thing is a beast

[wary loom]

T30 should be T10 change my mind

[fallen merlin]

bruh

[nocturne smelt]

I hate seal clubbers but this man’s dedication impresses me

[worldly grotto]

E4 has better hull armor and more dpm, u can face hug and out dpm most heavy tanks
T30's only advantage is depression

[wary summit]

E4's lack of versatility makes it booooring

[worldly grotto]

E4 is more versatile in terms of dpm and armor, only lacks in gun depressions

[tranquil shoal]

so e3 > e4?

[wary summit]

All day everyday

[worldly grotto]

They have different playstyles, E4 is a buffed heavy, e3 is just a beast all around but its mobility kills me

[raw ember]

Not always

[worldly grotto]

I agree, e3 is more reliable in pushing and holding points with 8 degrees of depression

[brave eagle]

i be murkin

that was weird.

[wary summit]

If the E4 gets a bit more gun depression and AP standard, it could've been better than the T30

But without any of these, it stays in the backburner

[tranquil shoal]

so e4 has a wt - grille 15 syndrome

[raw ember]

Wdym? E4 has good dpm, great armor and good mobility +turret

[brave eagle]

murkin

[raw ember]

And the t30 is slow and bad armor

[worldly grotto]

Definitely not, grille can be HE'd by even light tanks, E4 cannot be penned even by premium ammo of some heavies

[tranquil shoal]

no what i meant is that the tier 10 is a downgrade from tier 9

[wary summit]

Same old as the 4202 v Cent mk7/1 syndrome

[worldly grotto]

I don't agree, more dpm and better armor is more reliable than depression in most situations

U can basically face hug most tanks and out dpm them and bounce some of their shots

T30 is only viable in poking hulldown spots and hide, if someone sees ur hull u r dead cuz u have sucky dpm

E4 can easily survive that situation with troll armor and over 3k dpm

T30 is strong yes, but not a good match vs t10s as much as E4 does

[robust orchid]

E4 has APCR for standard shell, which notably has dooky angled performance, and guess what? Most vehicles in top tier have angled armor

God knows how many times my 155mm APCR bounced off against a BatChat's hull for some reason

[wary summit]

Tier for tier, T30 wins that aspect

E4 is still great, don't get me wrong, but left much to be desired

[tired dome]

i just had a E4 bounce me in Bat-Chat 💀

[worldly grotto]

Mate, difference between ap and apcr normalization is 3 degrees only, and guess what? E4 has 412 heat pen while T30 has 326 only
90 penetration difference is HUGE

[robust orchid]

Yet that 3° difference is all it takes to ricochet your shell to God knows where

Also...why are you comparing APCR pen to HEAT pen...?

[worldly grotto]

I meant if u're having issues penning ur enemy with normal shells just use premium ammo, and T30 lacks in terms of premium ammo penetration

[wary summit]

Huh

[robust orchid]

My guy...READ

[tired dome]

how are we comparing Tier 9 to 10 🤣

[raw ember]

Doesn't ap and apcr ricochet just as much (70°)

[wary summit]

He's probably referencing the funny normalization angle somehow

[robust orchid]

The E4's HEAT has 535 Alpha and costs 3,000 something credits, you're quite literally shedding 100 alpha for the HEAT pen, not to mention it's HEAT, it likes kissing whatever is in front of its actual target 🗿

[brave eagle]

I dont understand why when i use my Blaze, matchmaking ALWAYS makes it puts it up against stronger tanks. its it reallyt that OP with its paper michet armor?

[robust orchid]

My point is, the E4 having APCR for standard shell is a downgrade from the T30's standard AP 🗿

[raw ember]

Nah
You get t8 matches cuz there are much more t8s than t6s
You will get a t6 match sometime tho

[safe acorn]

Actually a fun vehicle

[brave eagle]

i think it was my first purchased tank

[robust orchid]

Get a T23E3, guaranteed to get you mostly into downtier matches

But when it does get you into uptiers...well...

[safe acorn]

Or just get Cromwell

[brave eagle]

my carro Glitch does that but its hit or miss

[fast glade]

what u guys think of my tank i made on the left

[dapper scaffold]

How good is the Foch 155 nowadays? When I last played it was broken

[dusk flame]

Finally a worthy offer?

[fervent elm]

it was sold for 7.5k last year when the Resillience bundles were available
its price reached 5k in christmas auction
it was sold for 10k with leg camo and KV-5 months ago

[dusk flame]

aw man... still one of the best heavy t8 though

[wary summit]

I'd say worth it

[fervent elm]

https://tenor.com/view/maxwell-lord-gif-17391197804346606335

[dusk flame]

it can always be better, the problem is, you never know when that's gonna be - 6 months, 2 weeks, 1 year

[wary summit]

It was 8.5k before standalone

Now having the camo with it is pretty nice, although some more additional goodies could've sweeten the price

[fervent elm]

it was 7.5k standalone without camo

[dusk flame]

it's fine, I bought it 😉 - Been waiting for the T77

[fervent elm]

if you like it, then its a good deal

[dusk flame]

Next I want Progetto 46 in shop

Then I'm good for a long while

[daring yew]

Technology

[dusk flame]

Another weeb event?

[daring yew]

#coming-soon

[dusk flame]

Well, they won't get gold from me on that camo 😉

does this T77 equipment look ok?

[wary loom]

Wait really? Dud they buff reload recently?

[dusk flame]

I just rammed a Chrysler K to death with the T77 - he got mad

[wary loom]

Why are u getting so many offers lol

[dusk flame]

I think this is a generic offer?

[honest creek]

Think it’s aright except the right middle I think I would switch right

[dusk flame]

HP over armor, aight

the T77 is wonderful - I don't think I need any other t8 heavy

[wary loom]

#coming-soon I'm gonna quit if any of these ugly fantasy tanks are T9+

You can do your childish stuff at T8 and below, but don't ever think of coming anywhere close to T10

[dusk flame]

Na, bro - T7 and below plz

uh uh

How painful are t8 and t9 on my way to E 50M?

[raw ember]

Toolbox

[dusk flame]

aight

[safe acorn]

Panther II is pretty good
E-50 is a slight down in performance

[dusk flame]

So nothing too bad?

[wary summit]

It's the 2nd worse mt in tier 9

You'd better be lucky by getting a game mode marathon to grind it, or else you'd be in a world of suffering

[raw ember]

Everything's fine about it except the gun depression

[dusk flame]

Maybe grind xp in the Panther II until I got enough for the 50M?

[safe acorn]

Free exp? It'll take a long time

[wary summit]

Better start hoarding now

[dusk flame]

I got 400k free xp, but I was thinking more about me having 200+ xp boosters

The biggest ones

[safe acorn]

It'll still take some time but hey at least it's on the Panther II
Thing is a hidden gem

[dusk flame]

I don’t mind, something to do

[blissful cave]

This game wants me to have 120GFT so bad it keeps giving it to me in crates and I keep selling it and it’s not even a collector so I get nothing for it (T_T)

[desert minnow]

If the BMP 3 was french: Project Louis

[blissful cave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855462070395731978/1283772576958648448/kpz_07p_e_camo.png?ex=66e435e1&is=66e2e461&hm=c1599706fe6feee261c206ed225edd3f77139ee34a206f8f1b45a8b8ff90c0c8& looks like were finally getting Kpz 70P
Legendary camo is trash tho

[wicked holly]

https://youtu.be/nAYI_m2DQNo?si=e4iH3RyeS4wX0pIp

Raisin in my Bromwell

[desert minnow]

I see

[worldly grotto]

with calibrated shells it has 2.9k dpm with gun rammer it's 3.1k dpm

[opal tulip]

E-50 has bad standard pen

[safe acorn]

Was used to pre buff M46 so yeah that's why I think it's a only a slight down

[opal tulip]

Panther 2 is very fun in mad games

[plucky summit]

This is not allowed.

😐

[robust orchid]

💀

[wary summit]

Account is against the EULA

Basically if WG smells you out, you're done for

[robust orchid]

Permaban, just grind for it ig 💀

[daring yew]

Realism

[plucky summit]

The fact my own tanks look more plausible than this is... something

[gilded leaf]

quick question yall, whats the better outta the 3? - TL-7-120, object 452k or amx 1er prot?

[wary summit]

AMX

[plucky summit]

Here's some stats to give you some comparative info

AMX performs the best among the playerbase, followed closely by the other two

[gilded leaf]

man thank you sm

[wicked holly]

Really enjoying the fully upgraded FIXER from season 1. It’s a better version of the super Pershing. Great hull down med. a little wiggling and getting a lot of bounces. Solid gun platform with good gun depression. As with any Pershing it’s slow on the acceleration but overall I’m enjoying it

[safe acorn]

well if your account is knocked out i guess is alright
you wont get anything then anyways

i beg for a PvE mode

Huh I realized smth
The Leviathan event from years ago, besides the main boss, the minions spawned in are the Char 2C and the FCM F1

[robust orchid]

Imagine risking your account all for a T8 TD

[wary loom]

What makes it so better than Super Pers

[wicked nexus]

when were the last times the carro 45t or the kpz 50 t were on sale

[wild lotus]

You were able to get usele.. i mean carro in k2 event and kpz50 in auction iirc

[dusk flame]

this okay for Panther II?

Grinding towards 50M

[wild lotus]

Go with hp,it wont have armor with extra or without

[dusk flame]

will do, thx

Nice lil tank, decided to just unlock t9 via xp and grind to 50M on the t8

[wary summit]

Frens

[dusk flame]

People camping in bushes entire fight with T56's - now i've seen it all

[grim token]

Wz 111 good?

[thorn lodge]

rate it...

[dusk flame]

t8 vs t7 it seems

but almost 7k is nice

[thorn lodge]

I tried to)

[wicked holly]

Stronger turret armor, stronger front hull, the SP has a little more dpm based on a lower alpha but quicker reload. I’ll take the 90 more alpha. Fixer also has slightly more HP, much better engine and better power to weight, similar dispersion. SP has one degree more of gun depression (10vs 9) and a little better aim time due to its lighter alpha gun. The fixer as a whole is just better. IMHO

[blissful cave]

Reason I think Super Pershing > fixer
Super Pershing is actually a real tank fixer is just some dumb fictional reskin

[violet timber]

If Spershing got everything the Fixer got, but with the 90mm being buffed, it would be a competitive tank

[tulip steppe]

the guns are simply when it cones to dpm and handling even though they have different reloads and alpha, i think the super persh just needs some small armour adjustments to help vs cali while not sacrificing the poor mobility it has

[blissful cave]

Why do I waste my time with this event

Need T95E2 or M6A2E1? no here’s a tier 5 duplicate

[kindred wren]

Is this a rhetorical question?

[blissful cave]

I dunno to be honest

[kindred wren]

The answer is the fading hope that you will get the few tanks you actually want despite the incredibly low chance

Likely based on previous experiences of luck, though not necessarily your own

Or ‚the reason why gambling is addictive‘

[dusk flame]

RIP

[kindred wren]

Most crates are a complete waste of time and money regarding the median and average drop

[hazy fog]

I thought I would play this again and first match I get.

[tranquil shoal]

Ayy i got it too besties

[blissful cave]

Not even gonna do the two 150 ones
This is just completing the draw
I haven’t gotten the final prize yet
Two of the premium 1 boxes actually gave me the premium box but BOTH were tier 5 duplicates

Only have two stages left a premium box 1 and the premium box 2 after that not even gonna bother
How much you wanna bet it’s gonna give me a third tier 5 duplicate

Looking at the tier 5’s I noticed they didn’t even put chi nu Kai in here 💀

[proper idol]

Is the vk72.01k really getting a new camo?

[hazy fog]

Yea I think so

[hazy fog]

The su85I isn’t even that bad u can get the occasional bounce but look on the bright side M O N E

[blissful cave]

I already had it this was a duplicate

Also even if I didn’t,not worth the many hours of grinding

[past vale]

My man’s existence is pain

[hazy fog]

Ik it was a dup but still a little extra money don’t hurt

[blissful cave]

Oh boy like what 100k credits? (T_T)

Gee golly 500k credits? my lucky day

[safe acorn]

Cmon WG
Release T95E1

[solid gate]

One of the best tier 6 hev's in my opinion.

[gritty mortar]

I haven’t played for a while
Can someone tell me the best tanks from tier 6-10? Please

[fervent elm]

Please edit that profanity out. Thanks

[robust orchid]

Me joining the complete waste of time and money competition and my rival is the Collect-em-All container:

[blissful cave]

Sandboxes after you have the tanks in there:

5% drop for like 50 gold
Otherwise 3 common boosters

[safe acorn]

Collect em All container gave me the 121B a week before all the stupid buffs

For under 5 tries (and I'll never gamble again)

[robust orchid]

I only get disappointment and free exp certs kek

[errant oak]

I got T34 on my main ac and mk 6 on my alt

[robust orchid]

That said, is the 112 Glacial worth keeping? Or should I sell? 🗿

[safe acorn]

I only keep it because it's worthless to sell
Once it's become a collector, that thing is out of my garage

[solid gate]

would love to see more

[native mulch]

Should i buy T34 heavy tank?

[dapper panther]

Yes
Its the same as the tech tree t30, but without the 150mm gun
But with significantly better credit coeff

[raw ember]

No
Save your money

[safe acorn]

I mean it's on for very cheap so go for it

[raw ember]

Stop robbing this man of his money

[safe acorn]

Wym it's literally on for 5k
The kinda deals you get on Black Friday for Tier VIIIs

And it ain't a bad tank at all

[raw ember]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-day-are-you-ready-for-some-football-gif-16278812894835706568

[safe acorn]

Well suit yourself

Man they're selling Chi-Nu Kai as a Steam DLC now

There goes its worth

[wary summit]

Went from worthless to worthless

[dusk flame]

The T28 pack from Steam interests me, but afaik, it's a pretty bad tank, right?

oh, it's t7

[silver monolith]

Nope

[dusk flame]

Yay, more gambling 🥱

[wary summit]

It was good back when it was released

Which was around 2020-ish

[dusk flame]

XM66F only available through gambling, right?

[safe acorn]

Ye

[dusk flame]

😬

[valid gale]

Eventually Ittl be for direct sale ALL t10 premiums have been

[sturdy glen]

No, you shouldn’t. It’s a pretty obsolete vehicle. There are tanks, that play in a very similar style, just better, like, say, Tornvagn. Better save your gold for something more competitive in current meta.

[valid gale]

The only tank that has been ONCE so far is carro 45T that was around 38k gold

[dusk flame]

But... we wants it... like now

[dusk flame]

💸

XM66F isn't even part of the Alpha predator certificate

[stuck belfry]

I wonder, will the Leman Russ ever come to WOTB?

[safe acorn]

Ikv-91-105 line for Swedish lights over the Udes 15/16

[dusk flame]

Man, I hate those Progetto 46... can't wait to get my hands on one myself heh

I just had a k-91 bounce on my Panther II hahaha

[safe acorn]

Prog 46 will forever be a sting to Tier VIII
But people forget P.44 Panthera has the same effect

[dusk flame]

It does indeed

[safe acorn]

Ngl the Vz 71 Tesak looks Hella cool

[wary loom]

I always focus them first lmao, so annoying to deal with

[wary loom]

Atleast they labeled it with a price. I hate it when they go the crate route. Just tell me what product I'm exactly gonna get for x sum, don't play with people

[analog badger]

so many brainless noobs in this game dont get that the TVP is one of the worst meds at tier 10
20 sec reload means you cant just tell TVP players to go solo unless they can easily escape
after they shoot their clip they're pretty much done for
TVP works best if you play it smart and sneakily stay back most of the time, and only go aggressive when you’re sure you can finish off a tank and get out safely
/rant-over

[dusk flame]

Same here. I do a little notch in my table every time I kill one 😉

[solid gate]

I tried now this setup for the bourasque. This feels amazing.

[slow coyote]

baguette

[violet timber]

When recoiless rifle Pz. 4

[blissful cave]

This is rigged this is the 3rd tier 5 out of 3 boxes

[sonic hornet]

Same. Got so many tier vs

[blissful cave]

Erich Konzepts armor feels amazing even tho it doesn’t really have much I’m getting way more bounces than I should be

[hearty tangle]

what fk s this wg

[violet timber]

???

[hearty tangle]

look at the palette part

[violet timber]

The what part?

[hearty tangle]

The first photo is da

[violet timber]

There’s nothing wrong with it

[hearty tangle]

How come it hit the pallet I know there is nothing wrong

[violet timber]

Whatever translator you’re using isn’t working

[hearty tangle]

Just look at the first photo

[violet timber]

I have, you got ammoracked

[hearty tangle]

Yes, what else does he see in the photo?

[violet timber]

Nothing, you were just ammoracked lol

[hearty tangle]

I was surprised that he only ate ammo in the pallet part

[dusk flame]

can someone please explain this to me...
I've made 116k xp on the Panther II and have 150k free xp - everything is unlocked from t8 to t10 50M - why can't I unlock it?

Do I actually need to buy the t9 and all the modules???

[violet timber]

Yes, the experience needs to be on the tier 9

[dusk flame]

you're kidding!

[violet timber]

No lol, you’re only able to use a tanks xp on the modules for that tank and researching the next tank

[dusk flame]

😬 Here we go again...

[zinc juniper]

Man the fact Im getting rich by using Grille 15 than any Premium Tank is kind of nuts. (Not enriched)

[dusk flame]

Silver is actually one of my main problems atm

[zinc juniper]

Just heal allies with Grille, 10k heal = 100k credits. Lose? Grille won’t care, still 100k+

[dusk flame]

"heal"?

[zinc juniper]

yeah don’t expect it on normal modes

[dusk flame]

tell me more, please - ah burning games

[violet timber]

Premiums will make more

[zinc juniper]

Hmm Ill try again with premium

Does Sheri missile have decent credit coefficient compared to other premiums?

[violet timber]

No, it’s the same as a tech tree

[dusk flame]

great money, imma grind

[zinc juniper]

Yeah I just tried a battle with it and it looks like it.
I should prob try Concept 1B then

[dusk flame]

121B and keep my distance

Grille works better for me because of the high dmg/healing

[tranquil shoal]

Should I get 4005, 215b or e3 as my next tier X?

[dusk flame]

Even in burning mode Progetto 46 are a pain

[spare fractal]

T1e003 for sure good armour good gun 4005 has no armour but excellent gun and 215b even tho largest calibre lacks armour, good speed, and turret rotation.

[dusk flame]

I'd prolly go for 215b

People seem to have loads of fun in them

[frail quartz]

And I am the guy who makes their game experience fun 💀

[loud void]

Are british mediums worth grinding? Don't plan on using free xp

[safe acorn]

Only the Tier VII-IX is
The Tier X is forever mediocre

[crisp charm]

Lol is this rare (sry for bad lighting, my screenshot broken)

[inner merlin]

Is it worth it?

[violet timber]

No

[safe acorn]

Very rare

[meager spindle]

So rare you can't even own it

[fervent elm]

no profanities. you should have edited that out

[fervent elm]

how old is this pic?

[crisp charm]

a few mins ago

[fervent elm]

how did you even get this tank

[crisp charm]

there's this mod that allows me to view prems. but I can't buy them. Only view

[fervent elm]

ah makes sense

[inner merlin]

Why?

[violet timber]

Bad tank

[dense tide]

JPE + AP + Adrenaline + Cali Shell + Tungsten = 50% chance of Ammorack good luck 👍

[robust orchid]

That chance doubles when you use it against Soviet vehicles, notably the T-22 Medium and Obj. 907

[dense tide]

No, because most tanks ammo HP is 230-250

[patent shuttle]

E3 is already hot garbage and it will be even worse next update do not get it unless you wanna play a moving pile of slop with actually viable armor

[zinc juniper]

It has been at least 5-6 years back then to that event..sigh not bad times at all.

[meager saddle]

Should I buy Chieftain Mk.6? (and why/why not)

[zinc juniper]

E3 being hot garbabe? Alrighty thats a skip

[opal tulip]

vk30m my boi. its my fav tank on wotpc

[ashen crown]

Every time I see a rare tanks I have to kill it
It’s like being an exotic bird collector

[fervent elm]

no

[safe acorn]

Ngl I wished Godzilla Minus One would've collabed with either WG or Gaijin

For a J7W1 and Chi-To to make it into the big screen is huge

[patent prism]

yes bro I agree. Imagine chi to legendary camo with goji-1 on the side. Or a new hori legendary camo based on godzilla

[safe acorn]

Or just the Chi-To with the emerald green colours of the late war planes

[patent prism]

I got an idea. Like the hololive event with Foch legendary. Wg can collab with toho or legendary and make a godzilla themed camo for the hori stb or type

[opal tulip]

this is peak wg collab

[coarse blade]

We love monke

[patent prism]

Wg bring this wotb bro ill acc spend money

[coarse blade]

You on apac?

[patent prism]

yes

[ashen crown]

:(

Also I saw the Mk 6 in the shop already for $47
It got all 3 camos and a bunch of other things

[safe acorn]

Yeah they kinda deserve a spotlight in WG since they've been in the movie business for the longest time

[coarse blade]

You were the guy who i encountred in a bz75 in the desert sands then zzz

Damned 183s

[crisp charm]

Blitz should add a jumbo lmao

[safe acorn]

They already did
Removed in 5.5

[crisp charm]

Oh. In that case, add it backkkkk

[safe acorn]

You can still get it
Just either by the sandbox crate or some random pop up

[robust orchid]

I got the Jumbo some while ago

Immediately sold it to gamble kek

[patent prism]

Oh fr? Hahha. I’m part of the 2% in apac that acc use derpgun bz75 in apac

What’s ur ign

[patent prism]

The perfect tank for a Kong camo would be the e4, and for godzilla either type71 or hori

[patent prism]

I think I remember this, there were 2 183s in ur team right?

[lunar crag]

I have a question. Is the fv4005 will be overpowered if it had the premium hesh?

[patent prism]

imo yes. U would only need to pen 2 hesh to deal same damage as 183, and u still have 2 left in the clip. No thanks

[coarse blade]

No it was in ur team, i was the one kran who got doubke tagged by those same 183s zzz

[patent prism]

Owsh. I remember. We wiped them out after

[wary summit]

Slightly meh but not much difference from what it is now

[blissful cave]

You know what’d be a cool collab?
Something that’s actually about tanks

[grim token]

Keiler and m60 good?

[safe acorn]

I think WoT does the same type of nationalistic days as WT does and gives respective vehicles sales

I think WoTB is trying to do that
Other than that, only WoT could do historical PvEs

[blissful cave]

Wargaming be like “you guys both get TMNT month”
But then the next month when wot has an entire Normandy commemoration event wotb does nothing just more “WOAH wacky randomness=fun”

Then the next month they’re like “you guys both get Star Trek”
Like do you see what I mean how realistic enjoyers get absolutely nothing they always make it unfair

[safe acorn]

I mean tbf it is Wargaming and yk they never wanted to specialize in realistic side

Not when we have the lord of tank hell existing, and the Waffenträger being an eldritch horror

[blissful cave]

Like bruh I just want something just ANYTHING realistic battle pass,season or even just a good event with a bunch of camos or something because that’s just nonexistent :/

[safe acorn]

I want the older Godzilla to have a Collab with WG or Gaijin since the military plays a big part in the opening counterattacks

Right before we either send in Mechagodzilla or a specialized combat vessel

[blissful cave]

Realistic STB camo to represent the type 74’s you see in Japanese movies

[safe acorn]

Which is just green
I think is the color we have now

[blissful cave]

Well STB already has a good camo
And so does type 71
Eh but still

Maybe with a bunch of equipment and a little more like a service MBT

[safe acorn]

But man it's either the original TOHO Godzilla as a collab

Or

The First Cloverfield movie

But I feel like the latter would fit Enlisted

[tame dove]

How good is the KPZ 70 to y’all?

[wary summit]

Pretty solid

[safe acorn]

And it's made out of metal

The bigger question is if it got gears

[wary summit]

https://tenor.com/view/big-boss-metal-gear-big-boss-fish-eating-fish-speech-bubble-gif-25302549

[grim musk]

guys is this thing any rare or good?

[plucky summit]

I'd say it's the best tier 2 TD, as much as I want to say T18 is the best, the armor isn't enough

[grim musk]

Okay

[lean gorge]

I really want cheiftan lol

[dusk flame]

Same

[lean gorge]

Real

[dusk flame]

I’ll take it both irl and in the game 😅

[lean gorge]

Lol same

I don't have £34 to spend tho 😦

[dusk flame]

Not sure it could afford the gas for the real one though… 😬

[lean gorge]

Yeah it's like £1k for one full tank lol

[dusk flame]

I do, but people say it’s gonna be bad after update

[lean gorge]

If I could get it I would don't care how it looks I want it becuse my grandfather used to drive the cheaftan in Germany patrolling the Berlin wall

[dusk flame]

Oh, that’s awesome

[lean gorge]

It means alot my family have alot of miltary history

I don't have the money to spare right now though

[dusk flame]

Yeah it hasn’t exactly been a good… 4-5 years lately for economy

[lean gorge]

Mhm*

[dusk flame]

Prices need to go back pre covid

[lean gorge]

Yes lol

[dusk flame]

Like I said, I do have the money to spare, but for me it would be totally daft to spend that amount on something that’s gonna get a giant nerf for sure within a month

[lean gorge]

Yeah...

[dusk flame]

Honestly I think they chose a very wrong time to sell it - and at that price

[lean gorge]

Mhm

[dusk flame]

Almost seems… misleading

[lean gorge]

Yeah

[wary summit]

Lol?

[safe acorn]

Chieftain being obnoxiously horrendous until the Jordanians fixed it

[dusk flame]

Snowplow mk. II?

[safe acorn]

Forgot where I found the VFM5 having reactive armor but it looked disgustingly funny

[granite rivet]

This is what the titan charioteer should have been

[hybrid kraken]

guys the kirovets-1 is real lol, always tot its a made up tank

[safe acorn]

Uh yeah...

[plucky summit]

The KV-1? Oh the PC Kirovets-1

[hybrid kraken]

it looks like the wz112-2

[safe acorn]

Nuh he's referring to the IS-3 prototype
The one before the pike nose

[plucky summit]

Very clear and not confusing nomenclature

[safe acorn]

I think it's just you

[plucky summit]

I find it easy to break that down to just KV-1, but too many things get turned into acronyms

[safe acorn]

Idk why youd do that tho which something more fluid belongs to the KV acronym

[plucky summit]

Well I did that without the knowledge there were two tanks in the equation

[safe acorn]

The brain fart is real

[plucky summit]

This is why I study 3CRB and not history 😂

I guess I do need to learn about the tank itself since I play WoT a lot now

[safe acorn]

Me when the MBT-B looks goofy but man
It exists and I lost the pictures

[hybrid kraken]

in blitz wz 112-2 is literally the kirovets-1 but wg decides to make it chinese

[plucky summit]

Well that's what happens when you copy designs, I guess

[hybrid kraken]

but danmm, im suprised the obj 777 existed irl too

[plucky summit]

With concepts like the Yohs and the Chrysler TV-8, you gotta suspend your disbelief

And the beasts I create .-.

[safe acorn]

Aye I found it

[hybrid kraken]

bc -25t is real too apparently, but it looks bigger than in blitz lol

[safe acorn]

MBT-B has some ridiculous stats
30hp/ton with 67kmh top speed
Autoloaded 152mm gun/launcher from the Sheridan
Coaxial 20mm autocannon

[plucky summit]

Massive troll tank design idea. Have great armor around the front but there's an obvious flat spot to shoot at, leading into an empty tube extending through the entire tank

[lyric oriole]

Stick of dynamite/C4 from infantry go Brrr

[plucky summit]

Well it's gonna be covered by some paper or something so it's not obvious that it's a hollow tube

But I guess when the trick is done, it's open for some explosive insertion

Ooh, add a metal door that can slide into the tube after a shot goes into it so it's blocked off

I've just finished redesigning the X95 Colossus. Turret has more detail and the hull is more practical. Stat sheet time >:)

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Damn
Soviet really wanted to uparmor the Obj 775

The dumb pancake

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Uparmor everything! *Insert ERA meme

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That's the thing
The ERA proposal and prototype for the 775 proved to be better than both Kontakt-1 and 5

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I do a lot of blind jokes

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Prototype to the Prototype
T-74, successor to the T-64, preceded by the Obj 490A Molot and Obj 195

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Tha- wh- they- HUH?
Successor is wild

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Yeah
I mean the suspension is blatantly there and it's made by the same guy

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Ammo capacity of 20 amirite

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60 all ready to fire

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I guess the hull really does offer enough space

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The stupid Obj 780 thing that's in Supertest for WoT PC is real

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At this point I ought to submit a few of my own x-x

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British Super Heavy tech tree would be interesting