vehicles-discussion

[rocky spruce]

Why did I buy the maus

It's horrible at everything

[vagrant topaz]

Maus is a hidden gem in my opinion, because most people even with calibrated shells still get fooled by the maus armor if u angle and mind game it correctly

[safe acorn]

Damage piñata

[dapper whale]

is skoda t56 good or bad?

[safe acorn]

Pretty good

[vagrant topaz]

I still don’t understand how everyone hates the maus, I don’t feel like the problems everyone talks about for the maus are actually very big problems

Like it might be on the weaker side, but it can still hold its own versus any tank except maybe a ho-ri

[safe acorn]

For what its classified as
It's better to take the Jagdpanzer E-100 or VK 72.01K out

[dusk flame]

T34 worth anything on the battlefield?

[lusty orbit]

people voted to most of balance changes i want to know if wg will do something

[dusk flame]

anyone?

[lusty orbit]

i have it is really good but your team have to support you. in hull down is a beast

[dusk flame]

hmmm

the quality of teams lately is very declining... that's something to think about

[safe acorn]

Hulldown and you basically have the enemy team bamboozled

[dusk flame]

Fun to play and worth it?

[safe acorn]

Uhuh
Rakes in money
Gets the job done
Simple gameplay

[dusk flame]

ah so it's one of those credit getters, like Lówe?

[safe acorn]

Yeah
One of the OG premiums anyways so they're basically twins, only difference is gun

[dusk flame]

price seems decent enough

[safe acorn]

Actual doubloons is a yikes tho

[dusk flame]

ah you mean spend gold?

[wary summit]

The thing does appear in a pop up for 5.5k~6.5k iirc

[dusk flame]

yeah, I've had one pop up in a month

I think I'll wait for Löwe - in tier8 it's very popular for 3-4 fast magazine tanks to gang up on people atm

it's really a pest

[blissful cave]

I like T34 a lot I think jts really good

[raw ember]

It's average, and since most t8 premium are either super strong or even broken it makes the t34 lackluster
You could've gotten the Skoda t56 for 6.5k, it's cheaper and it's a way better tank

[blissful cave]

I prefer T34 over skoda

[raw ember]

Why?

[dusk flame]

I'll get both. Get T26 when it comes in pop up - I primarily play t8 anyways

[midnight nexus]

What is the best tier10 tank in the game

[dusk flame]

I think that's very individual

[raw ember]

There is not best t10 in the game, but good shootouts are definitely stb1, wz 113g ft, b c 25t, kranvagn, t110e5, t110e4, progetto 56, carro 45t, badger

[safe acorn]

Leo 1 fell off sadly
Replaced by E-50M

[blissful cave]

Firstly it’s a real tank
And T30 is my 3rd favorite tank of all time so basically T34 same tank different gun
I also love how it plays too with its insane penetration
Also it’s realistic legendary camo is one of the best in the game

[safe acorn]

Mmm you only have one point tho if you're doing it like that

[blissful cave]

I said why I prefer T34 over skoda no?

[safe acorn]

Oh wait mb

[blissful cave]

I’ve gotten to see T34 too it’s an extremely cool tank

[dusk flame]

The camo is very good, yes

[safe acorn]

WoTB will never understand the pain of facing and using the T32

[dusk flame]

Explain - you mean from WoT?

[feral plover]

is this equipt good for wz-121?

[blissful cave]

I’m hoping for T32 PBR and a good camo

[safe acorn]

Nope WT

[raw ember]

Use callibrated shells and toolbox

[fossil trail]

hello guys

sorry for the disturbance i'm new here

[dusk flame]

the T34 is decent, imo - a lot of pings - but it won't save you from omg teams 😉

and great gun

and it makes silver even though you're losing heh

[fossil trail]

t34 h-combat best

[blissful cave]

Yees

[mossy inlet]

You dont need cali there imo
But i would definitely recommend the stabilizer instead of turbocharger

[dusk flame]

Vz. 55 is a pretty decent tank 👍

[safe acorn]

Need to see how it's double shot autoloader would perform

[violet timber]

It’s gonna be meta

[dusk flame]

just finished grinding it today, anything that comes is a bonus

wish it had a better legendary camo though

Xeno is incredibly ugly

[heady magnet]

I have a question, i saw the T34 with the H combat cammo but there are another T34 1776 (independence) and this cannot use cammo, are 2 different tanks or the same i dont know why these 2

[ripe turtle]

Did they remove the reticle acceleration for the fv4005?

[dusk flame]

I don't know, m8 - check https://guidesblitz.com

Seems they're identical

[violet timber]

They are the same tank, 1776 was added before legendary camos were a thing so WG made it a separate tank

[glass otter]

its been sold for 5k, too much for an old premiuim

[dusk flame]

🤷‍♂️

None of this is worth anything, if you think about it

[heady magnet]

Oohh interesting and strange thing hahaha, thanks for your reply dear

And now i have another question, both tanks do have same values for gun engine turrent and the rest ore one is little better tan the other??

[dusk flame]

I have no idea

[dusk flame]

seriously, all those small crap tanks with magazines and autoloaders, ruining the game

but whatevs

[safe acorn]

They're fun

I mean I like the BC alot

[glass otter]

they have same stats

[blissful cave]

Yooo I just got to go inside a T-34-85

It was hollowed out and just a monument with the hatch open and I hopped inside but still cool

Somebody graffiti’d Rudy 102 on it which I’ll deem acceptable since it’s fitting : )

Even tho the Rudy’s actual markings are 102 then polish eagle on the turret and then Rudy on the hulll but whatever that’s fine

[unborn isle]

@blissful cave was this at a fort/old base, museum?

[lilac pulsar]

i just got the AMX CDA 105...which is a good tank no? problem is i never actually play tds

was hoping for like skoda t27 or progetto

[blissful cave]

Just at a gas station

[dapper whale]

where is this T-34-85?

[low gyro]

Can we all agree that they should give bat chat 25 T more HP?

[tulip karma]

dpm

[errant oak]

What?

[digital basin]

Whos winning in this situation🤑

[odd cove]

elaborate?

[wary summit]

Thermonuclear bomb vs coughing baby

[meager wind]

Coughing baby

[safe acorn]

Thermonuclear Baby Vs Coughing Bomb

[feral plover]

i respect your effot

[raw ember]

11k battles but not 1 ace 😭😭😭😭

[feral plover]

i just realise posting wrong channel

[blissful cave]

💀

[raw ember]

1. No spoiler tags allowed
   2: it's a fv4005 with a mod that makes it look like a 183, hence the glitch turret traverse

[grave heart]

Oh, alr

[regal briar]

what best equiment for vk 90

[royal orchid]

guys should i sell my object 752 to get the skoda t27? (i dont like heavies)

[frail nimbus]

No, it doesn’t need more hp

[blissful cave]

Absolutely not

[safe acorn]

I love the BC
It's fine as it is

[solid gate]

What are the better options?

I don't play mts that much and I'm trying to play them.

[odd cove]

e50m probably

[errant oak]

Better than STB? Idk but M48 and E50 M are good options

[opal tulip]

T-62A and the above mentioned are all great. Leopard 1 if you're experienced

[lyric oriole]

Leopard 1 is about to turn terrible

[opal tulip]

Biggest nerf imo is the gun depression nerf, it went from 10 to 7. I was playing the T-62A today and gawddam that 5 degrees of gun dep is horrible

[violet timber]

It’s going from 8 to 7

[lyric oriole]

Frankly this is the worst time for you to try to start playing them, for whatever reason meds are getting a global DPM nerf in tier 10, and others that aren't are getting a penetration and/or DPM nerf too.

Tiers 5-9 meds have barely been touched for years and most of them are horrible to play.

[lyric oriole]

It was originally 10, and then it went from 10->8 only a few months ago so he's not wrong

[violet timber]

It was 9

[dusk flame]

Titan Charioteer = worse Chimera?

Ah, the Titan is a TD

[opal tulip]

9 to 7 iirc. It used to be 10

[tranquil shoal]

does the armor thing do anything really?

[lyric oriole]

No, Titan Charioteer is just overall a pointless tank

[violet timber]

It’s 8 currently

[opal tulip]

armour is not thick enough

[lyric oriole]

And it's about to not be 8

[dusk flame]

Yeah I just read stats, seems lackluster

[lyric oriole]

Pure dev got rolled by good player in fast tank moment

[viral falcon]

I have no idea why in their right minds would they want a glass cannon which gimmick is being sneaky and creating crossfire to expose themeselves even more.

[lyric oriole]

Also nerfing it's mobility and DPM

[opal tulip]

most pointless change of all.

[prisma viper]

Wasn’t wargaming’s intent just to make some tanks pointless and then overpowered so that the game doesn’t feel stale? I’m not sure if this is the case here

[dusk flame]

Worth it?

[tranquil shoal]

yes, flames are cool

[opal tulip]

buffing its AP pen by 4mm and increasing its shell velocity doesn't seem like a huge change though

[lyric oriole]

No

The tank is garbage

[tranquil shoal]

jokes aside i like the tank for the damage but its easily ammoracked, thats my opinion at least

[viral falcon]

Poor thing was bad when it came out and virtually got no buff since xd

[lyric oriole]

Idk why WG has been pushing T-44-100 so hard lately

[dusk flame]

I only get crap pop ups

[tranquil shoal]

cuz flames and flames are cool

[trail laurel]

No, even the Tech tree version is better somehow 💀💀💀

[lyric oriole]

It's not like they've even bothered doing anything for the tank

WG hates mediums

But they love selling them

[opal tulip]

WG also do be dumping every gimmick on random tanks. 30B does not need reti calibrated due to its playstyle, let alone a spall liner (srly? a spall liner?)

[dusk flame]

And here I was finally being happy I got a pop up - and it's another dud

[lyric oriole]

It is funny that 30B is getting a pretty large DPM nerf closer back to its garbage release DPM

[trail laurel]

Keep going, hope you will get a Good pop-up offer

[dusk flame]

yeah me too

[opal tulip]

mediums are getting dpm nerfs across the board

[lyric oriole]

I know

[trail laurel]

If you see IS-M pop up offer, automatic Ignore it, it ain't worth

[lyric oriole]

The solution to making battles not go so fast is apparently nerfing all the non-meta vehicles and buffing heavies further

[dusk flame]

will do, thanks

[opal tulip]

It can't be as bad as last time when its competition is getting nerfed as well lol

[lyric oriole]

Competition? Meds have been in the minor Leagues for ages

We see one major league Medium per patch and one light and that's how it stays

[opal tulip]

competition as in the other mediums at tier X

[lyric oriole]

Yes

There is no competition among tier 10 mediums anymore

[dusk flame]

I was actually waiting for the T56 pop up - but now we can get it for free

[lyric oriole]

They compete for "Not worst"

[trail laurel]

Pretty easy to get tbh

[dusk flame]

Yeah I only lack 16 Medium tokens and 180 TD - then it's mine

[trail laurel]

21 days is Far more enough to get the Skoda T56 and 2 prem crate II

[dusk flame]

Tokens are only grindable 7 days

Event lasts longer though'

[trail laurel]

7 days is still enough for T56 and both crate

[dusk flame]

oh yeah, np

[opal tulip]

isnt the 7 day timer disregarded alr?

[dusk flame]

Geez, they want all to have it, huh

[trail laurel]

Yeah

[opal tulip]

lol i just grinded my way through the sandglobe event. im taking it easy for this one

[dusk flame]

Geez I hate those small punk tanks with magazines

[dusk flame]

Well, if you have 21 days lol... you only have to win 40 matches with each model of tank

[tranquil shoal]

borrasque

[dusk flame]

I mean, if you have 21 days to grind 200 x 3 ressources, why don't they just give it away for free to all? Same thing

[trail laurel]

Free tanks for hardwork people

[dusk flame]

21 days is hardly hard work - even casual players will have ample time

[opal tulip]

5 wins a day ain't hardwork chief. prob just to drive up player engagement

[dusk flame]

WG must have decided the entire player base should have T56's

[trail laurel]

You can get T56 with 6 wins a day, 2 wins for each vehicle type if you start from first day

I barely play T56 due to it Accurate, other than that it's fine

[dusk flame]

I'm kust waiting for them to buff the Vz- 55 😉

[opal tulip]

WG gave the VZ-55 the autoloader but not the tier 9 THN. very half-baked changes

[trail laurel]

VZ-55 become Tier 10 Obj 752

[dusk flame]

T10 will do fine - gives you a reason to grind the t10 m8 🙂

But yeah, it should be in the t9 as well

[trail laurel]

Imma give IS-4 a try in next update, 44 km/h with Super engine Boost seem Good to go with MT

[dusk flame]

Even without auto loader the Vz. 55 is a great tank

[opal tulip]

facts, just overshawdowed by other tier 10s

[dusk flame]

with auto loader it's gonna be overshadowed no more 😉

[tranquil shoal]

Any idea how to get Pz IVs in the current state of game?

[meager wind]

<@&481447501690568709>

[calm drum]

lmiguelesticknos was banned.

[meager wind]

There was an event you could get it in a month or so ago

Nowadays you gotta get it from crates or mystery certificates

[blissful cave]

It’s like WG’s favorite tank to give out

[undone gull]

My thumb when stock Churchill 1:

[blissful cave]

I’ve seen it given in events many times in the 2 years I’ve been playing

[tranquil shoal]

aw man

[final thunder]

is tier 8 and 9 better on maus line or vk 72.01?

[wary summit]

VK72

[final thunder]

ok

[wary summit]

Tier 8's just a diet Tiger 2 and tier 9's just a diet VK72

You'll work it out

[final thunder]

is that tier 9 good for credit farm?

[wary summit]

50/50

You're in a higher tier so don't expect much credit income, but a good game can bring in some rewards in

[final thunder]

which is best tier 8 credit farmer from these lines- 60tp, batchat 25, e50, t100lt, foch, vk70.01?

[violet timber]

Don’t use tech tree tanks to farm credits

[final thunder]

i gambled my gud tanks away...

once i get 3m i could get progetto 46 back....

but still i need to use one of em

[solid gate]

non of them are really good at making money unless you can heal in fun game modes

[icy wadi]

honestly 53tp

[dusk flame]

I wonder if they removed all auto loaders/magazines from the game if people still would be able to kill anything at all

[unborn isle]

@DEVS PLEASE BUFF object 268/4 just got it a few days ago and played the ever living badookie out of it and have passed final judgment, it's amount the worst tanks in game. Theres no way to set this tank up to be good at any form of anything pure sadness to see a great tank held back in every way. It needs something anything.

Concealment would be nice, or better aim speed, or pen, or dmg, or reload speed. It is lacking on every statistic.

[dusk flame]

Many tanks are

[unborn isle]

It's a sniper hvy role td, not hybrid brawler so not having Concealment in a td like this breaks it, no relocating after first shot, just sitting rest of game hoping u r forgotten. Then when ur team needs u and u try to be a hybrid brawler ur spotted and done for or torn to shreds because lno reload pen or dmg pfff y sell a tank or make one if it's this terrible.

Give it a Concealment buff or any one thing and it's somewhat relevant.

[dusk flame]

I hear ya - I'm not trying to invalidate your points, which seem more than reasonable, I'm just saying a lot of tanks are just... crap. I usually play another. Ofc you can continue to plead to WG about it, but they just announced t10 changes and afaik there wasn't any buffs mentioned with the 268/4... Maybe you can convince them - I hope so, but hmm 😐

[unborn isle]

I doubt it,

[dusk flame]

I was just trying to keep it positive for your sake, m8

[wraith lava]

Cotton candy machine

[meager wind]

Bicycle

[wraith lava]

Indeed

[violet timber]

268/4 isn’t a sniper td lol, it’s a frontline td

[vestal dirge]

If there an carro spin it worth it to get it?

[odd cove]

spend everything

[wild pawn]

Im new in the game im currently in tier 5 should i grind on the maus line or the E100 line?

[wary summit]

E100

[fast glade]

E100 maus is not the king it once was

[earnest chasm]

Hey so, what is the most maneuverable, quickest lt and med?

Ignoring everything else, tier etc

[wary summit]

M41 Bulldog by acceleration, RU-251 by top speed

[earnest chasm]

And in terms of hull & turret rotation, and general agility?

[violet timber]

Probably M41D in general

[earnest chasm]

How about for med?

In wot it was bat chat iirc but it's an LT here

[final thunder]

best light tank?(tier 10)

[wild lotus]

Batchat

[wary summit]

Currently Bat Chat, next update is potentially T-100lt or WZ-132-1

[earnest chasm]

I pulled Keiler out of some random case I had... haven't played it yet. It's a t8 heavy

[final thunder]

ok

[final thunder]

is amx 13 90 good for credit farming?

or is vk 100.01 (p) better?

[opal tulip]

none. buy/ use a real premium. participate in the current event and get the skoda t56 for free

[final thunder]

i have life so i dont have time for "free" premium tanks

[opal tulip]

its 6 wins a day

[final thunder]

to get škoda you need 200 tokens of each type

[safe acorn]

Yeah so grind it out
Just have at least one match with each type (considering 6 wins, 2 vehicle types would need 2 wins)

[final thunder]

120 wins on tier 8

[safe acorn]

You have a whole month to complete

[final thunder]

true

[final thunder]

is vk100.01 good?

or is vk45.02A better?

[blissful cave]

Which gun is better for T-54? The one that leads to object 140 one or the T-62 one?

[wild lotus]

140

[icy wadi]

honestly the 330 one if u don't mind the pen

[dusk flame]

The Borg Drone looks awesome

Like I said, I'm really considering just going for Premium Tank container II's instead. Skoda T56 seems a bit lackluster

[raw ember]

Skoda is the best t8 122m gun heavy
Better than the 252u

[dusk flame]

Maybe both then 😉

[blissful cave]

Youlll have plenty of time events like 20 days or something

What im going for is the premium container and just hoping on T95E2 or M6A2E1 (both 7 or 8)

[tranquil shoal]

i decided to go for the draw since the box is guaranteed if u finish it and u get some goodies on the way to it

[trail laurel]

Skoda T56 use 122mm gun 🤨

[raw ember]

Ik it's 130mm
I ain't stupid
But all them play similarly

[trail laurel]

Despite the Accuracy of the Gun, other part is fine

[sturdy glen]

Well, 53tp still exists…

[raw ember]

Both are good
Wouldn't say either is better since the oth have their ups and downs

[blissful cave]

I play 53TP with the stock turret

Idk where they got the other one from,probably made up

From what I remember 53TP wasn’t an official tank concept anyway,but the design still originated from somewhere and not made just for the game

[pulsar frigate]

opinions?

[blissful cave]

BKAN right?
Really cool tank

[tranquil shoal]

yo that picture is sick, what book is it?

[blissful cave]

It’s not a book I have it’s just an image I found

I do have a really good book on US concept tanks tho

[halcyon locust]

got the wz121 today, this tank is a MENACE

[raw ember]

Awesome camo

[sturdy glen]

Well Skoda, unlike 53tp is superclumsybaddispersionextremelybaddispersious, and its aiming time is something quite atrocious.

[raw ember]

That's the one downside of the skoda

[icy wadi]

it's supposed to be driving with the speed of 25-30 kmh lol

[safe acorn]

I think tank encyclopedia deemed it as outright fake

Yeah would make sense if it is it the supposed engineer for it doesn't exist

[icy wadi]

also as the document translates, it's only an unofficial suggestion for a heavy tank

[fervent zinc]

Opinions?

[ember yarrow]

How does ww2 tanks discharge their shells after they shoot? Is there a video on yt demonstrating that?

[earnest chasm]

I got VK 90.01 P, Strv k, and Caliban from massive box, so far I like them all. Strv my favorite so far

Also got the VK 168 t8 from one of the boxes from the crate

[wary summit]

Like the shell casings?

[blissful cave]

Found this picture on the wall of a museum and I think it’s a Panzer 38 na right?

The mantlet doesn’t look like a regular panzer 38t and the na has one that looks like that

[solid fractal]

@blissful cave Maybe it’s some older Czechoslovak model? After all, it wasn’t a German tank in true sense was it

[blissful cave]

Yea ik that part,35 and 38t’s were Czechoslovakian designs just taken by Germany
But I think it’s 38na

[solid fractal]

The turret looks odd though

[blissful cave]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/firearmcentral/images/6/60/PzKpfw_38t_nA_img1.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1200?cb=20190123160852

It has to be the 38na

[kindred wren]

Yeah, it‘s the angle that makes it seem weird (and the cut-off top)

[blissful cave]

Read a bit and it says only 5 prototypes were produced and they had minor differences between them

[tepid lily]

Bruh 💀

[blissful cave]

Wish I could use the stats of the top modules but visually have the design it’s supposed to have but I can’t do mods or anything

[tepid lily]

This whole tank is a hoax btw. It simply doesn't exist.

[blissful cave]

Yea ik
But the design came from this document even if it isn’t a real document

[naive lion]

I just got my jagdtiger and I need advice on how to literally stay alive for 10s

[blissful cave]

Polish people making up a document claiming to have designed a tank with more firepower than the tiger and more armor than the KV-1 designed before either of them

[tepid lily]

btw the top turret is more so a "what-if" development resumed after the Soviets freed Poland from German occupation. It's assumed that the Soviets would try to get the Polish army to use Soviet armaments hence there would be some development to use a pre-existing hull design with a new turret designed for a 122 mm gun.

The turret design of the second turret is cast due to Soviet trends of creating cast turrets for their tank designs. The T-54, IS-2, IS-3 all use cast designs and it is assumed that Poland would use similar production methods because of the Soviet influence/factory tooling they would send over to restart Polish tank production.
@blissful cave

Anyways, it doesn't seem you're interested in discussing this so I'm going to sign off and get some work done.

[blissful cave]

Oh I was just also doing something rn but yea that does sound like it makes sense

[tepid lily]

Ah no worries, I'm just currently under a lot of pressure to get some work in. My stress level is at an all time high. Sorry in advance if I seem agitated

[meager spindle]

tactical misinformation

[icy wadi]

(you might have to delete this because of 1 tiny detail btw)

[solid gate]

How to play amx 50b properly

[robust orchid]

Just got the STG out of the premium tank crate, should I keep it or sell? Because by God, it's miserable

[meager wind]

That turret is tough, the hull not so much

[robust orchid]

I'm just gonna keep it in case they convert it into a collector

2.3s aiming time is great for a Russian 122 of all things, but 180mm pen and 13-14s reload is just bad

[solid gate]

black prince needs pbr

[slow coyote]

Ummm galarian, you can get a document of Emil 1 please?

[blissful cave]

Yea i already have them even

[safe acorn]

This from the Swedish archives?

[safe acorn]

Hmm apparently under the ZTZ-96A (P) wiki for WT
It states it stemmed from a different WZ-122 design

Designated WZ-122R; made to house a turret that used an unusual needle shaped turret

Thing is
There's no pics for both the 96A (P) or the WZ-122R

[final thunder]

is Loza's sherman better for credit farming then vk100.01?

[wary summit]

There's no real reason to run the STG when there's like every other competition beating it

[robust orchid]

Welp, just gonna keep it until it eventually becomes a collector ig

I already have both the Chimera and WZ-122 TM, miles better

[final thunder]

can someone say should i sell lozas sherman for 600k or is it better to grind credits with then vk100.01?

[wild lotus]

Yes

[final thunder]

what yes?

[robust orchid]

I...why are you comparing a Tier VI Medium to a Tier VIII Heavy? Also (Loza's Sherman) it's got a relatively better credit coefficient compared to the 100.01, since provisions, consumables and ammunition cost less at Tier VI

[wild lotus]

Its better to grind on loza

[final thunder]

ok

[daring yew]

Imagination

[safe acorn]

God almighty

Random AHH -9°

[wary summit]

There's no way in hell that thing can even squeeze -6° in the first place

[opal tulip]

In soviet russia, anything is possible!

[solid gate]

So I got a new free tank in world of tanks blitz is this medium amx a good tank?

[wary summit]

Pretty nice

[solid gate]

So it's a keeper then hopefully

[raw ember]

It's a good tank, similar to the leopard 1 but gives some of its firepower for a bit of turret armor and more gun depression. The turret armor is decent but don't rely on it as much as a m48 patton or stb1. It requires skill to play
Use the same setup as me

[solid gate]

Alright I'll be sure to keep it then I got it out of one of those collect them all containers

[dull mulch]

What about the panzer m10

[raw ember]

The one from the video container?
I would sell it for 2.5k gold
But you might keep it iyw especially for mad games

[solid gate]

Also thank you

[wary summit]

Cheers

[raw ember]

You said two ambiguous words lol

[dull mulch]

Any opinions on the pz v/iv

I think it works great as a rammer, good armor sloping, decent speed, but if surrounded u dead

[wary summit]

He asked a vague question therefore a vague answer will suffice

[raw ember]

True

[safe acorn]

Or even 3

[safe acorn]

For example an economy beyond years of disrepair

Taking 100 years to go back to where it started

Still waiting for the Nemesis MBT

If any reason for Chieftain to receive a heavy nerf anyways

[blissful cave]

Is this tank a real idea or fake

Looks a lot like something the Soviets would do but idk

[safe acorn]

its literally an M4 hull with the Su-100 mantlet and gun

[wary summit]

Doubt they would do it

[blissful cave]

So is that something they actually thought about or no

[safe acorn]

why when you have 1 billion T-34 hulls?

[blissful cave]

Even at least considering it would be enough to be real like Strv K was only a consideration but the plan never went through (but confirmed to be real)

[wary summit]

Why should they do it to like a couple Shermans that's going to be returned

[safe acorn]

or in the bigger case, the borderline awful traverse rate and top speed of the M4 sherman

[blissful cave]

No idea why they’d do it
But Soviets just think of a tank and make it like screw it why not just look at the amount of objects they have they don’t really do concepts as much as others they just built stuff

[safe acorn]

they dont really do concepts is a severe understatement

[blissful cave]

Ok I meant more like compared to other countries

[safe acorn]

considering how tank development prototypes keep bankrupting the USSR i doubt so

[wary summit]

The US Lend-Lease officer watching a Sherman somehow getting casemated

[blissful cave]

They build tons of prototypes while someone like the US is like

can it be built out of an existing tank?
no? Then we won’t even try

[safe acorn]

they did try the M60-2000 and the stupid Leo 2 conversion (though this one is oretty sketchy)

[blissful cave]

Like how pretty much nearly nothing out of question mark conference or British school of tank technology gets built
(Not all but mostly all)

[safe acorn]

its that scene of spongebob seeing Gary just get vaporized in front of him

still think Nemesis MBT is such a banger name

@wary summit Greece is planning to outfit their Leopard 1A5s with the Centauro 120 B2 turret

[wary summit]

Anything works on the Leo 1 hull that Im not surprised what's on it

[safe acorn]

this looks so clean

Swiss MBT concept

Funny enough the MBT-B exists sorta

[dusk flame]

So, I'm having loads of fun in the t8 Rhm.-B. WT - will I have just as much fun with the t9 and t10 variants?

WT auf Pz. IV and Grille?

[tranquil shoal]

wt (tier 9) definetely but grille might be a hard pill to swallow - its a bit different than tier 8 and 9

[dusk flame]

The derp gun at t8 is so lovely

[tranquil shoal]

For tier 9 remember to peak on reverse and generally youll feel like driving reverse is more rewarding since u have more gun depression, the derpiness is continued due to a new derp device for like 80k? but you need the 12,8cm to go forward with the research

[dusk flame]

okay, thanks for info - excellent!
I'll just keep grinding xp in the Rhm until I have the t9 fully unlocked

[tranquil shoal]

hell yeah good luck with the grind man, grille was my first tier 10, so hopefully youll like it as mnuch as i do 🙂

[dusk flame]

So always go for the 150mm in t9

[dusk flame]

Mine was the Vz. 55 - can't wait until they give it auto loader 😉

[tranquil shoal]

i mean i didnt even get the derp for tier 9, always prefered bit more pen, same with rhm really

but if you dig the 150's definetely go for them

[dusk flame]

Yeah I can see the 128mm has potential... might try it out a few rounds

[tepid lily]

Surprisingly it was real.

[dusk flame]

you're right, the 128mm is really nice

[tranquil shoal]

happy to help hah

[opal tulip]

they nerfed borsig's alpha from 640 to 560

[dusk flame]

Bastards...

[opal tulip]

because they nerfed the grille's lmao

[dusk flame]

is that all around or just t10?

[opal tulip]

correction: 640 to 580. The borsig and wt pz 4's alpha were nerfed in accordance to the grille's alpha nerf

[dusk flame]

Oh, then it's already in effect

[opal tulip]

yea they nerfed it a while ago

[safe acorn]

That is such a terrible photo

[tepid lily]

Unfortunately I couldn't find anything better. If you want to search you're free to do so

[safe acorn]

Yeah that's the thing
It doesn't pop up

[tepid lily]

This may be the only picture taken from any sort of archive. I assume this was supposedly proposed around the same time the Soviets proposed to make SU-85s with the Panzer III chassis, but makes use of the M4A2 sent via Lend-Lease. I've spent 30 minutes looking around and can't find anything other than this single image.

[tepid lily]

actually I might be wrong about that being real...

[dusk flame]

Friggin Progetto 46's... they're pests

[safe acorn]

Yeah because if you take one second to think about it

Rationally

Why?

[tepid lily]

It just didn't make sense considering they had a perfectly good chassis for mounting the 85 mm so the whole concept was redundant to begin with. Albeit, I think this is one of the better fakes to possibly exist in the game. The Soviet armament ministers probably thought the same thing when they saw this monstrosity proposed to them

[wary summit]

The Pz3 conversion was understandable

But the M4A2 proposal would be unnecessary 💀

[safe acorn]

Yeah

So the MBT-B exists
Which is cool ig

[tepid lily]

Information on the SU-76I and SU-85I are rare as it is... I have scraps to go off as of now. If there is any information on the SU-100I, it was probably brought up but immediately thrown out the window considering SU-85s production was shutdown due to the existence of the T-34-85, and SU-100s were on the way and currently being tested in 1944. The letter I in the name stands for иностранная which means foreign... The SU-76I and SU-85I was a thing because T-34 hulls weren't being utilized for tank destroyer production at the time. That's all the information I've scrounged up so far. And that now leads me to the final conclusion that the tank is fake.

That was quite an hour I wasted... albeit that was kinda fun ngl

[tepid lily]

This thing?

The frontal hull shape vaguely reminds me of a sheridan

[plucky summit]

Like a tall Concept 1B hull

It's coming to Blitz I believe

[blissful cave]

Tried to get Erich 11 crates so far nothing…
What I’ll do is just wait a bit until those better offers come out towards the end of it being in the shop

[safe acorn]

yeah it does, from blueprints of the chassis to its autoloader and presumtiously its crew training

[outer lily]

is the tier 9 gun or tier 10 gun better on the bc 25 t

[calm lagoon]

they should 100% add the strv 103

[blissful cave]

Completely agree I love that tank so much

[brazen sierra]

Yes also the dynamic suspension to that and the kpz 70

[zenith shadow]

Fake ah wargaming tank moments

[safe acorn]

103A please

[opal tulip]

imo strv 103b can be implemented without the need for the hydropneumatic suspension button. The tank can just rotate up and down according to where you drag your crosshair

[wary summit]

The dispersion is going to be so wonky xd

[final thunder]

from which tank you will be able to get amx 13 m24?

[safe acorn]

12 T

[final thunder]

is xp needed amout known ?

[wary summit]

It's probably 70k and above

[safe acorn]

I'm literally saving up to 400k for this to be 50/50 either very bad or godlike

[violet forge]

Please add swedish tech tree tank destroyers

[patent prism]

I’d like them to but even if they do I don’t think they would add them with siege mode.

[pale agate]

I do very well in is-6

[minor vapor]

MBT-B in wotb is a tier 9 and an autoloader. I believe

[dusk flame]

Löwe should be in shop all the time :/

I need that silver grinder

[sturdy glen]

You don’t really. Just take any actually well performing t8 collectible or premium tank. It will easily outfarm Löwe. You see those 20% of credit coefficient give you less credits than medals and victoires that you are going to get in any better vehicle. Besides Löwe isn’t that fun to play.

[dusk flame]

Alright, cool - thanks

[pulsar hatch]

Hello guys,
Tips for playing the E4 ?

I really struggle with it; I feel like it’s a 60tp with dpm that sacrifices everything for dpm

I really struggle with the lack of gun depression, turret armor, and reverse speed

I feel like it’s a worse 60tp with 700 less HP

[dapper violet]

you're a heavy

just act like one and the extra heavy will win the game

[pulsar hatch]

I play it like a heavy,
But it’s a worse heavy with no gun depression and no turret armor

[dapper violet]

you should use cover and do peek a boom

you're basically driving a standard heavy

[pulsar hatch]

But with 700 less hp…

Or 500 at least
Type 71 has 2550 with enhanced

[dapper violet]

you're leveraging a td slot to insert a heavy that trades hp for dpm

you have terrible side armor and lower plate armor, just face forwards

[pulsar hatch]

That’s what I do and I slightly wiggle

[dapper violet]

yep, that's literally what ya gotta do

remember that your team should usually have an extra heavy and thus win heavy side

[pulsar hatch]

« Heavy side » doesn’t really exist in many maps, like Black Goldville, Canal, Mines, Middleburg, Oasis Palms…

But again I don’t understand how the E4 can stand up in comparison to an E100 or a 60TP

[tepid stump]

its a heavy support td, i personally wouldn't be on the frontlines

oopsie, wrong reply

[pulsar hatch]

Where would you position it ?

[tepid stump]

idk dont have it lol

but from my personal experience dealing with it and through teammates, it would be either behind heavies or supporting mediums(if needed, but wouldn't recommend) and only frontline if i have hp and teammates dont

[odd cove]

what ^ said, i use it on the second line

[pulsar hatch]

So you would run refined gun on it ?

I feel like, if you play a second line TD, why would you bother having a turret on it ?

[tepid stump]

forgot what refined does, but on second line aim time is generally preferred over max accuracy

as for the turret part idk about that either

[pulsar hatch]

Having a turret means having more flexibility but you don’t need flexibility if you’re a second line tank

[tepid stump]

fair, but i personally think a turret is a good thing for some tds

not needing to turn your entire tank(potentially exposing yourself more) to get some dude at the side is a massive upgrade, especially on the front/second line

[pulsar hatch]

Other pseudo-frontline TDs have tools to deal with that though

113gft and obj 263 have stupid traverse
E3 has super speed boost…

[tepid stump]

they have to expose a decent amount of themselves to peek, no?

[pulsar hatch]

These tanks can afford to just hide their lower plate and have really good armor

[odd cove]

refined deals with dispersion

[pulsar hatch]

Even though the E3 hatch is weak in the current meta and the 113gft can be penned by TDs

You can’t get away with facehugging heavies in the E3 now

[violet timber]

E3 hatch isn’t really weak

[tepid stump]

only if they have terrain advantage, in which most of the time they dont

[pulsar hatch]

Good players can deal with that

[pulsar hatch]

You always have terrain advantage when you drive your tank to the right spot

Unless you are flanked or in a crossfire

[tepid stump]

issue is that sometimes the said spot isnt always effective/people aren't there

[pulsar hatch]

Sure but that’s how the game works

[tepid stump]

true, but yeah, having a turret is always nice, even if it costs a little bit of mobility

[pulsar hatch]

One thing that’s good about the E4 is the HE though

[dusk flame]

Sounds like you need the Waffen Träger

[tepid stump]

bonk

[pulsar hatch]

I don’t play too much tanks with 0 armor unless they can get map control

[tepid stump]

you should give the grille line a try, hard hitting with really good accuracy, though they lack armour and general mobility

[dusk flame]

WT Line ending with Grille is really fun

[tepid stump]

if you need help regarding it or other tanks, you can send a message either here or in #blitz-school-discussion (though replies can be slow)

[pulsar hatch]

I don’t like the Grille
I don’t like fighting them so I don’t wan’t to grind it lol

[tepid stump]

fair inaff lol

[dusk flame]

WT and Grille are different though 😉

[pulsar hatch]

I don’t think Grille is what’s missing in the current MM

[pulsar hatch]

For a high alpha gun at T9 I would pick the T30, the BZ or the Kpz

For a TD I would enjoy the Conway more

But I played the Borsig and it’s really fun

[dusk flame]

How bad is cheating on Android? I am always spotted half the map away without any tanks being close

As bad as any other Android game?

[noble rune]

Hello, does anyone know what really happened to the Jg.Pz IV? I haven't played in 5-7 years, got the game again a week ago. My favorite tank in the game has been reduced to a pile of rubble😭. My go to tank is gone! Yes it got nerfed. But golly gee the rotation and the gun were the best part of it. Now there's barely anything left😐

[tepid stump]

they nerfed it back when the kyros(pretty much a reskin of jg.pz.iv) came out on the battlepass

basically they made it have the original stats to make people want to buy it more

[noble rune]

Ohh

[noble rune]

Thank you for answering my question. 🫂

[tepid stump]

trust me, it hurt aswell(both my credits and soul) when i rebought it only to find out they made it downright horrendous 🫂

[noble rune]

Can I buy the kyros, anytime soon? I'm going to be spending big money on this game now. Just wondering if I can ever get a blast from the past.

[violet timber]

Cheating really can’t happen in the game

[dusk flame]

that's good to hear, though it doesn't explain what I'm experiencing

[tepid stump]

iirc they have one extra crate offer in the store if you buy the battlepass that lets you gamble for previous bp tanks for gold

wouldn't recommend though, chances are low and not guaranteed

[digital basin]

Since y'all were saying "Thermonuclear bomb vs coughing baby" here's another one (It's fair)

[robust orchid]

Probably because your vehicle has bad camouflage and/or you got spotted by a medium/light tank that you haven't spotted

[tulip steppe]

yes there's players being caught with unfair mods, some got banned a couple weeks ago for it but i don't know of how common it is, WG has been playing with vehicle view ranges lately so it might be just having to get used to new spotting ranges

[exotic shell]

They should change UE 57 gun to a 240mm gun

[coarse blade]

If you're in tier 10, that's probably a batchat

[glad basalt]

Su 152 has 3300 Dpm at tier 7, isn’t that broken?

[violet timber]

No

[glad basalt]

Is 400 dmg every 7 seconds, at t7

[violet timber]

Okay

[glad basalt]

That’s too much

[deep belfry]

It's a TD without turret or armor

Also not many people use the 122mm

[glad basalt]

Which gun should I use for the smv cc 64

[violet timber]

Single shot

[safe acorn]

What're you playing in?

[dull mulch]

Is the 268 v4 a good TD

[safe acorn]

Not anymore
The base 268 is much better

[dull mulch]

K cus i just got it from a container

[meager wind]

It was pretty good before the equipment changes

[honest tinsel]

AT8 line is the worst line where I keep constantly skipping tech. improvements by using free exp. 😅😂🫣 God, how can anyone play those TD's if it wasn't for it's tier X

[dusk flame]

German TD WT line

[safe acorn]

Probably some LTs got a good spot

[safe acorn]

Tortoise and AT-15 are pretty strong
AT-7 I don't really know since I don't face it often

[dusk flame]

Aight

[coarse blade]

You're mostly gonna spend your time moving around plus you're turretless anyways.

Dpm isn't everything, you still have to consider other aspects of the tank such as mobility.

Not like an average player would just stand there and eat up all the shells you dump and also consider that enmy can also hit you.

In conclusion:

It's not broken

[minor vapor]

Yes

If the enemies are like braindead zombies coming to you 1 by 1. You're gonna have a pleasant battle.

[glad basalt]

Don’t call me out like that I saw weak armor and thought easy kill

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-gif-4468404

[minor vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/stings-of-the-nostrils-nostrils-anchorman-ron-burgundy-will-ferrell-gif-16970573

[peak hull]

REAL KING TIGER

[wary summit]

Somehow they reactivated the IS-7 for tankman's day

[solid gate]

So that’s why a random guy came in #general-blitz-discussion and said “they restored IS7”

[wary summit]

Remarkable

[slow coyote]

Real running IS-7?

[wary summit]

If that vid doesn't show it, I don't know what will

[solid gate]

It’s ai generated

[ashen crown]

Excuse me what

[safe acorn]

Komrad wake up

You're not in disservice yet

@wary summit if only WG gave IS-7 at least 48+kmh speed

Funny little creature

Uses a smoothbore gun in WW2 under Britain

[ashen crown]

It looks like it was based on the Bren Carrier

[safe acorn]

Because it is

[wary summit]

It had potential until WG pulled the heavium to pure HT trick

[blissful cave]

Any good videos overviewing Erich Konzept statistics and how to play it now that (the one who shall not be named) is gone
I usually watched his videos for tank overviews and since he was so quick to it

[safe acorn]

Man
I think I've never seen a tank review since I got E-100 a year or two back

It's something about WoTBs overviews not being ...fun?
Idk I guess tanks here are just superficially different in tactics

[blissful cave]

I always skip the game play sections of his videos tho

Just watched the review then clicked out once he was like “now let’s play like 3 battles on it”

Also something I noticed is Erich is a 120mm but doesn’t have 400 alpha like all the others it’s like 360

[safe acorn]

Ain't it autoloaded or smth

[blissful cave]

Yea
Probably single shot autoloader like Tornvagn where it simply doesn’t have a loader to be injured but still gets to have rammer

[safe acorn]

Tornvagn isn't autoloaded tho I meant in game

[blissful cave]

Yea it’s a single shot autoloader there’s no clip but it doesn’t have a loader crew member

Still gets to have adrenaline and rammer tho which is nice

[safe acorn]

So I guess it held some merit

Since I think since VZ.55 is getting an autoloader, its 130mm alpha is much lower than the average

[wary summit]

Autoloading assist I assume is the word

[safe acorn]

Wait it's a regular single shot

Bruh

[wary summit]

460 is average 130mm damage across the board

[safe acorn]

I still think Turm 3 (and as a stretch, the Erich Konzept)

Even though it's good, is less survivable than the T-72

Which speaks volumes

Mfw half the turret is dedicated to the ready rack for the autoloader
So you have 40 rounds right next to the gunner and commander, just separated by a 10mm steel plate

With no armor to speak of
Turm 3 has it's whole ammo rack exposed, able to be shot up from anywhere

[blissful cave]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-mr-krabs-explosion-pie-gif-25387031

Turm III

[safe acorn]

Would definitely die to a 40mm Bofors 500m away

[honest tinsel]

What are really strong tierX or tier9 Frontline TDs?

[dusk flame]

Is the 121B worth anything?

[safe acorn]

It's a pretty solid medium

[dusk flame]

What would be an estimate gold worth be with camo?

I got a personal offer, but they threw in some extra crates, so I think it’s a bit expensive

They want 20k for this

[ashen crown]

It seems worth it cuz there are Awesome containers

[dusk flame]

It’s adaptive camo seems interesting

But I don’t have much luck in crates

[ashen crown]

Theres five of them dont worry

[dusk flame]

The percentages of getting a tank is still very low

If I were to buy this it would primarily be because of the 121B

[dusk flame]

Any thoughts on price?

[safe acorn]

I mean idk
Got mine out of a 2nd collect em all crate
Then again I've seen Tier X Prems go for less during black Friday type sales

[dusk flame]

Yeah I’m pretty bamboozled as well

[safe acorn]

20k I'd expect from a more recent Tier X premium like idk
XM66F or smth

[dusk flame]

Yeah the crates really don’t add value to me … chances of getting anything in them are bleh

[blissful cave]

For what’s included yes I think it’s a good price I’d wish for an offer same as this but with AMX M4 54

121b+camo for 20k is not worth it but 5 mega and 5 awesome containers too definitely looks like a good deal

[dusk flame]

Is the 121B competitive as in t10? I’m not talking meta, but can it hold its own and is not total rubbish?

[mossy inlet]

Kinda, but kinda not

[blissful cave]

Idk I don’t have it
Nor do I know much about what’s “good” since I just play what I like for fun

[dusk flame]

Why do those 10 containers make it worth the price? Never got anything out of any crates

Think it might be best just to hold me horses and wait for the tank(s) I want and just pay their price. Never had luck in gambling.

[blissful cave]

Awesome containers have a 10% drop for a good high tier tank and have good chances of other drops too like other crates
And mega containers usually have some gold in them

You can see what’s in em yourself if you want

[dusk flame]

Yeah but most likely I’d end up with a so-so 121B and some gold and whatevs

[blissful cave]

If you don’t want 121b then the offer isn’t worth it

[slow coyote]

121B is good tank?

[harsh elm]

i personally wouldn't recommend the 121B just because there are some other tanks that play fairly similar to it, but it isnt that bad of a tank rn or after the next balance changes

[blissful cave]

It’s just a really good deal if you were already looking to get 121B and get a whole bunch of other good stuff included

So i would be hoping they make the same offer but with AMX 54 or 111-5A the tier 10s I don’t have and want

[dusk flame]

That’s what I’m thinking. At least the main tank in the bundle need to be something I want or something good - which it doesn’t seem to be

[blissful cave]

I’m not really interested in getting 121B so it wouldn’t be worth it to me

AMX M4 54 was in the shop not long ago and I said I’d get it later but now regret that so now the next time will be the draw sometime this month so I’ll probably need to get it there :/
I hate waiting for tanks I’ve been waiting many months for M6A2E1 and T95E2 and for Kpz 70P to release

[dusk flame]

Yeah I know what you mean. I’ve only been getting mediocre deals as well

[blissful cave]

T95E2 is ESPECIALLY infuriating me
It comes in those cheap tier 8 pop ups I’ve bought back all the tanks I sold that could be in them (they won’t offer ones you have in your garage already from what I’ve seen) but it went through every tank multiple times and just avoids offering T95E2 I have to wait a whole week just for another chance and it’s driving me insane

[slow coyote]

nah want tier 10 quest

[dusk flame]

Yeah I get you. It’s annoying as hell

[blissful cave]

And M6A2E1 EXP just hasn’t been in the shop at all (wanted it since January) and the only time it’s been in the shop this year is in a money only offer paired with tankenstein a tank I don’t want and asking for 23$ so I passed and am waiting for it to come for gold by itself

[dusk flame]

Personally I don’t care if it’s gold or money. To me gold is money, so I just want more varied offers

[blissful cave]

That was the only way to get it (this year so far) and I didn’t want tankenstein and 23$ for M6 EXP wasn’t worth it
Idk why they didn’t have the option to buy the tank separately like they always do in those double packs

[dusk flame]

You know the answer to that: Maximize income for WG 😉

[blissful cave]

Ooh SHPTK TVP is another tank I really want but that’s a newer one I didn’t go for it in crates,didn’t go for the draw didn’t get it in the massive container event so I’ll just have to wait for it to come for sale directly

[safe acorn]

Do wanna get the Obj 777 with its skin

But man I've put down the WG spending for the snail

[vast patio]

Vstabs or refined gun on RU 251?

[violet timber]

Yes

[glacial plume]

Is the 121b good for 20k gold?

[blissful cave]

Erich Konzept has low dpm for whatever reason they should just make it 400 alpha like 120mm’s should to fix that

[wild lotus]

If you have 121 then no

[dusk flame]

There are many conflicting views on 121B being worth it or not

They should really do it like you can try a tank for, I dunno, 5-10 matches for free without it giving you ressources or stats

[blissful cave]

Like how pc has tank rental I think

[dusk flame]

*You mean WoT?

AFAIK WoTB doesn't have rentals on pc

[plucky summit]

When they say pc, they mean WoT

[silver monolith]

That concept did exist on blitz
It's never been used since T49A

[dusk flame]

Well, I mean the tanks are expensive enough, so would be... decent to do so

[dusk flame]

Aight, shame they ditched it

[blissful cave]

Oh yea I just call wot,wot pc

[dusk flame]

Yeah pld that... 12 years ago or so

[heavy rapids]

om

[dusk flame]

Here we go, after getting the T56

Not bad, I hate facing these... Would have loved a Progetto 46 though

[blissful cave]

I’m just gonna be praying for T95E2 or M6A2E1 (either the tier 7 or 8 is fine) I’m done waiting for them

[dusk flame]

Not sure I have the stamina to grind 2nd crate...

[dusk flame]

Turtle Mk.1 is a good credit maker

[cursive mantle]

Hey I was wondering if it would be a good idea to sell my strv 81 for the American T34 , idk if I should get it because I already have the T54E2

[dusk flame]

T34 isn't particularly exciting to play

Agreed

Doesn't matter if it meta - it's very, very boring to play. - And it brings nothing to the table.

[cursive mantle]

Ok thx I just wanted a shark with more alpha

[dusk flame]

well... it doesn't have to be meta to be competitive... but I mean, we agree, it's bad - and it's not even fun

[violet timber]

That’s not true at all, especially at tier 8

[errant oak]

T34 is good

[dusk flame]

I must live on another planet then

[errant oak]

TD pen, good dpm, good turret armor and -10 gun dep

[violet timber]

T34 is very average

[dusk flame]

I can think of 5 heavies off the bat I'd rather play at t8

And if you aren't left alone by your team... or have to move

very, like I said.. imo, boring

[errant oak]

Low alpha? Xd

[dusk flame]

ZzzZz

Exactly

[errant oak]

12

[dusk flame]

Here's the Chimera for comparison 😉

[violet timber]

400 alpha is pretty solid at tier 8, especially when it has the best standard pen of any heavy at the tier

[errant oak]

12.0 and is the best DPM for a 120mm gun on tier 8

[dusk flame]

Dude can do as he wants, I wouldn't recommend

[errant oak]

Other tanks needs cali, T34 no

[violet timber]

Plenty of good tanks only have good turret armor

Not necessarily

Sure, but that doesn’t make the T34 bad. I can just say there are plenty of tier 8 heavy tanks I would rather play the T34 over and achieve the same thing you just did but for the opposite side

[dusk flame]

I'd honestly rather, much rather, play a TNH 105/1000 which is tech tree, for starters

Well, I'm done with the T34 - don't have more to say about it 🙂

[true frigate]

War Gaming be Like

To be honest though I would like to see more tanks like the leopard at higher tiers

[grim token]

Obj 907 good?

[pulsar hatch]

What’s the playstyle of the E50M ? It looks like a very good brawling medium but it’s a huge target and I feel like it falls apart in two seconds when different people shoot at it; should we play it more like a leopard ?

[violet timber]

It’s a brawling med, use the size to bully other meds

[pulsar hatch]

what when you can’t do that ? (for instance when you have less mediums, or when your mediums camp)

• can you afford to brawl in a tank that gets lit on fire so easily ?

[cursive mantle]

Also , are the Type 71 and M48 worth the grind , like are they gonna get nerfed next update idk and Im planing on getting them

[pulsar frigate]

personally i think the type 71 sucks but thats probably just me m48 idk i know the m48 line is not that good but yeah i wouldn't grind either

[cursive mantle]

Oh but what tier X should I get then? I have 12k games with 1.9k avg dmg with 54% wr , what tanks would be good for me then? I already have E5 60tp Kran Obj 268 and Wzs 113 121 and GFT and the IS4 ans 7 I also had the Vz and 263 but soled them

[pulsar hatch]

the tier 8 and 9 american meds are super mid

while all japanese heavies are great

[oak crown]

Dunno, I just grind the cool looking stuff, Personally I liked my M48, im not good not terrible either but it looked cool and is fun for me

[cursive mantle]

Ik but I don't like them , also I know the mess are med in the American line

[pulsar frigate]

hmmm depends on ur preference but me personally i do better in meds and lights so id say e50m, leo1, 62a
heavys id say, t57 and vk72 (getting nerfed i think)
tds for me e3 is , 4005, and grille if u can find out how to play it very good

[cursive mantle]

The only tanks on that list that appeal to my aggressive hulldown playstyle are the E50M and the E3

[pulsar hatch]

To compensate the buff of calibrated shells you should run enhanced armor on japanese heavies

[cursive mantle]

Ok I will do

[pulsar hatch]

E3 armor is bad in the current meta because its hatch is weak
And the E50M is a huge target; not the easiest one to work out hulldown

[pulsar frigate]

62a is also a nice choice then

[cursive mantle]

I guess that appeals to me too

[pulsar frigate]

90% of players dont know e3 hatch is pennable now

[cursive mantle]

Most people probably don't know how to deal with them so that off sets it

[pulsar hatch]

I get hatched every time in my E3

If you sacrifice so much mobility and side armor, your hatch should be impervious. Currently it’s a worse 113gft

[pulsar frigate]

i like both tbh i only got hatch penned once out of all my games and it was by a 215b heavy

[pulsar hatch]

So 342 apcr pen only is required

Which means that your hatch can sometimes be penned by a 183 which is cringe

[pulsar frigate]

enemy 183s pen me in questionable ways anyway

[pulsar hatch]

183 players get away with everything

[pulsar frigate]

not on my team they be sitting red line

[fringe viper]

is is-7 good?

[pulsar hatch]

Of course, it’s one of these tanks that don’t require too much brain cells to do well in

[errant tusk]

yea

[charred pawn]

hey

tiger II with a drill a good idea for a collector?

or atleast another legendary camo

[opal tulip]

panther 8.8 is just an outright worse panther 2

[solid gate]

The Vickers is def the worse LT in the entirety of the game, it has no advantages in it's own tier let alone in Tier 9, and it's nerf on its Spotting range made this tank obete

[tulip steppe]

its about to receive a bunch of buffs soon, might make it more fun to play after

[wary summit]

Nerfed to oblivion xd

[silent lynx]

How do we get the t49 fearless after this off-season I don't even have a single blueprint for it

How many blueprints will I get for finishing in the diamond league

[safe acorn]

And some nerfs

[harsh elm]

depending on how you look at it the vickers is either getting buffed and more interesting to play or nerfed into the ground yet again

[solid gate]

Yes true, maybe it's not the expectation that I set since playing the Vickers CR

[harsh elm]

iirc it used to have the best view range in the game and one of the best tanks overall back on its release, but now it dosent really serve a purpose

[solid gate]

Yea, that's why even skilled.players nowadays struggle to play the tank

[harsh elm]

i personally dont think it'll become much better after the balance changes lol, but ill have to play it and see

[solid gate]

Same , let the all mighty WG decide upon it's fate lmao

[blissful cave]

FV4005 stage I lmao

[civic agate]

Looks almost like a minigun at the side of the turret lmao

[ashen crown]

1 HE and that thing is gone

[blissful cave]

That’s the autoloader I think

[safe acorn]

Still think that British tank development is equivalent to letting a balloon deflate freely

It's everywhere and in the end, disappointing

[blissful cave]

IS-3 scary

[safe acorn]

If they heard of the IS-7

[blissful cave]

FV215 183 would be built for sure

[safe acorn]

Eh

I'm thinking of APFSDS actually being fielded in the Conqueror rather than the 183
Either that or the Malkara missile launcher for the Conqueror

[blissful cave]

Yea true maybe something more penetration based rather than pure power
Like going from T30 to T34

[safe acorn]

It's somewhat disappointing how Chieftain took so long to use an APFSDS round

And I'm happy Chieftain Mk 6 finally gets a new legendary camo based on its service as the Berlin Guard

[ashen crown]

They even modelled the composite armor

[safe acorn]

Which is funny

[blissful cave]

Yees it took three tries but we got a good chieftain Mk 6 camo

I can’t wait to get it when I’m able to on sale new tier 10 camos cost like as much as a tank when they come out like I could get a lot for 6-7k

Camo tab in the shop+discount weekend I can get it for like 2.5K I think

I think the name is dumb tho “chieftain custodian”

[safe acorn]

I still think WoTB wouldn't interest me as much since WT and Terraria is taking 99% of my gaming time

I'll come back when Project Murat is out but if it sucks I'm tweaking

[blissful cave]

Why not like Chieftain Berlin or Chieftain Brigade or some other cooler name

[safe acorn]

When Red Coats inspired skin for 215B

[blissful cave]

I want a stereotypical fancy British camo lmao looking like it’s wearing a suit,monocle and top hat

[safe acorn]

Steampunk works

[blissful cave]

That would be cool too ngl but if it’s not overdone

Like Löwe’s unrealistic one looks bad ik it’s probably not the same thing but still

I feel like whenever tanks get multiple camos we should get a realistic one like how does FV4005 have three camos and none look like a normal service tank

[safe acorn]

Better than what WoT did

[ashen crown]

I only remember a henhouse and a graffitied wall

[safe acorn]

Still waiting for M56 Scorpion
High DPM for Tier VIII TD pls

[glad basalt]

What’s the best medium tank line after this coming balance and which one is nerfed the worst

[wary loom]

Its fun to play

[slow coyote]

It's fun but..... nefted into BESH aka HESH in next season 5 update....

[solid gate]

Isn't HESH bttr than HC

[slow coyote]

Idk, may be WG devs trying vickers light into HESH as premium shell

[solid gate]

But imo that wld be bttr cos the damage wld def be higher

[wary summit]

Depends

Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad

[honest sail]

sad vk72 no camoflage only rotkopf

[wary loom]

Have the same feeling with e50 and Im worried e50m will be the same. Lots of armor but huge sides

[fallen minnow]

worth it?

[wary loom]

T62a has more sidearmor than e50 afaik

[wary loom]

Whats the sell price of it?

[fallen minnow]

4500?

tier 8s sell for 3750

[wary loom]

Seems like a good offer

I once got M4A1 Revalorise for like 4k gold too. Such an underrated tank. Worth every penny

[open solstice]

Rino,mino,bc,vk72,maus,sheri,fv4005,fv215b 183,fv4202
Which line should i free xp next ?

[regal briar]

guys gravdigger or cs 52 lis who is better tank?

[worldly grotto]

Vk 72 then rhino

[worldly grotto]

I prefer gravedigger, however they have really different playstyles one is front line auto loader with good armor and the other is a hulldown med with high alpha and low depression

[orchid bridge]

Is 121B good for 20k gold?

[wary summit]

No amount of gold is worth that steaming pile of rubbish

[patent prism]

good deal if it any other tier 8 prem heavy. Is2sh sucks

[fierce estuary]

Waiiiit

World of Tanks Sells Miniature tanks!?

[icy wadi]

where

[wild lotus]

If you have 121 then no

[orchid bridge]

Thx

[blissful cave]

Yeees I saw them in a store in Helsinki but haven’t seen em anywhere else tho
I got a little T-54

I was going to get Sherman Jumbo and ISU too but decided to get a little BT-42 and Landsverk L-62 anti ii instead (not from wot tho)

[safe acorn]

Anti II
The only non radar SPAA Finland will never get

Oh wait they got it
Just 6 of em

[blissful cave]

Sweden made them specifically for Finland
It says Sweden never put them in their own service

[safe acorn]

Yeah funny they kept the Anti 1 for themselves

The problem I have with Sweden is how they're RELUCTANT to field a better chassis ASAP

In the end you have several projects and vehicles on the same subpar chassis

Probably wouldn't like the Landsverk Leo as well

[blissful cave]

Sweden is just make cool ideas
REFUSE to build them and just buy stuff instead

We could’ve had so many cool tanks but they’re like “mmm no,purchase centurions keep those as long as possible then “make Strv 122’s (leopard 2’s)”
Strv 103 actually being made and in service is a miracle

I’m genuinely tweaking over Swedens military budget decisions from decades ago

[safe acorn]

And turns out to be better than the original

[safe acorn]

I mean they do have the
Ikv-91
Bkan 1C was also indigenous
Basically the funny and small Pbv 301 and 302 chassis made into various stuff
CV90 family
VEAK 40

All in all they do have indigenous stuff, it's just that it's understandable for a mainstay MBT to be an import design since well
Youll be focusing on that role a lot

Like the Leopard 2 chassis is a good pick (besides the Abrams and T-80)

And what a fine vehicle the Strv 122 turned out to be

[severe oar]

Should i grind the b-c 25 t ?

[safe acorn]

Yes
Top LT and would be still even after the rebalances

[severe oar]

Ok , ty

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave Swedish air force on the other hand
The beauty and bipolarity of SAAB

[dusk flame]

Is Concept 1B still underwhelming? Also with upcoming patch?

[cobalt monolith]

2 days ago I finally got Chieftain from the alpha predator container and immediately bought this Camo, especially wanted it because of the modeled mk10 addon armor on the turret

[safe acorn]

Yeah but it doesn't work
Cool aesthetic but man if only

[cobalt monolith]

Yeah I know it's just an aesthetic thing but still it's nice to see. Although players don't even shoot in that area, they always go for the commander hatch

[valid gale]

Strv 122 is superior over the base leopard 2

[dusk flame]

This?

[wary summit]

It's getting a DPM buff

It's a casual boring hulldown tank, it'll work

[dusk flame]

Should prolly still save my gold for something better

[pulsar hatch]

Concept 1B is a great tank

[dusk flame]

Problem is, I doubt I'll play it much - I already have the Vz. 55 and it'll be a laugh after auto loaders

[pulsar hatch]

The concept has impervious turret armor

[dusk flame]

it's a decent looking tank though

[wild lotus]

In wt, probably

[valid gale]

Before the current 2A8 is being developed 2A7+ and 2A7 base were the best versions of the normal leopard 2 STRV 122 has more frontal projection normally and has better roof armor and electronics

[wary loom]

80mm turret ring?

[pulsar hatch]

Good luck hitting that if the Concept uses its gun depression

[wary loom]

Good old E5 seems like having stronger turret

Big lol, no need to waste 20k gold

[pulsar hatch]

The side armor of the turret is better on the E5 but the turret itself is better on the Concept

[junior pasture]

Is the T54E2 Shark good at all? I’m saving for it.

[dusk flame]

It's generic, good, yes - but not particularly fun

[pulsar hatch]

Yes it’s an E5 at tier 8

[junior pasture]

Aight bet

[dusk flame]

I can't believe when I first came here and I got a few lucky draws/gambles - people recommended me to sell the Strv K, Object 268/4 and Concept 1B. I regret selling these tanks as hell - but the restoring price of 15k a piece is simply devastating

[wary loom]

Meh, doesn't makes the tank worth buying honestly, if you already have E5

[pulsar frigate]

v4 is a bad tank i sold it too

[dusk flame]

Yeah but the other I could have had fun with

Actually, the tanks I like best atm are tech trees - Vz. 55 and Waffle(few thousand xp from Grille)

[pulsar frigate]

strv k is meh it seema concept is good

[pulsar frigate]

vz 55 is bad rn imo but who knows maybe autoloader will save it but the interclip seems too long for me

[dusk flame]

I do pretty well in it tbh

is the concept worth the 15k buyback price then?

[pulsar frigate]

its cheaper than if you'd buy it from the store
and gold isnt that hard to accumulate

[dusk flame]

yeah and I have the maXimum camo

[pulsar frigate]

the maximal?

[dusk flame]

my bad

[pulsar frigate]

my gambling addiction needs help ngl

[dusk flame]

I'm extremely unlucky, so there's that

[honest sail]

im grinding T110E3

[sonic totem]

t56 skoda is a good tank ?

[amber echo]

no

[safe acorn]

Side projection and mobility too

[robust cape]

Is Tiger II a good tank?

[pulsar frigate]

used to be rn i dont think so

[safe acorn]

It's alright
Slightly power crept and not as good as right after it got buffed

[robust cape]

ok thanks to you guys.

[robust cape]

Is it normal to suffer so much to get a tank? Because seriously it is really hard to know how to correctly angle the tiger 1

[safe acorn]

Angling by 45° works fine
At most just remember to show your corners rather than your flat plate to the enemy

[robust cape]

Alright

[violet timber]

20 degrees is the optimal angle for it

[safe acorn]

Oh yeah forgot Tiger I in WoTB has 150 or something rather than 100mm

[violet timber]

There are very few tanks where you want to go past 20 degrees

[deep belfry]

Tiger 131 is the one with the 100mm frontal armor, still angling on it is worthless

[safe acorn]

I guess because funny WG doesn't want to add angled performance and gives it a standard for all

[cerulean path]

Hola que tal es el t95?

[plucky summit]

Heck, on many tanks you can't even go 20 degrees

[dry notch]

I have no luck playing this game below tier 6. All low tiers should be removed and the game shoot start at tier 6. Call of Duty, PUBG, and War Hammer have ques lies than 2 minutes yet this one goes on and on. Your server population is dead a tiers 1-5, just start at tier 6

[daring yew]

Low tier mainly dead since 5.5 tbh

[dry notch]

See, this is from earlier today. Just have a 5 tier tech tree

and it’s not same game mode or encounter or supremacy only, it’s any chance i have to get this tanks stats up but i cannot play tier 5

[safe acorn]

Probs just no one wanting to be playing that tier at this timing

I don't think Tier V matches are that difficult to get in for me, otherwise I would've sold my prems

[peak ferry]

Yeah only the tier 6 tigers has 100mm

[honest tinsel]

Go hulldown or play it like a panther. There is no special armor about it.

Actually expect turtles, Churchill + black prince + some sort of odd premiums there are not any big buddy armored tanks at tier6 or 7 that can go easilly without hulldown camping. All of them even turtle are easy to be penetrated if you shoot correctly

[dusk flame]

She’s pretty

So, Vz. 55 and Grille secured…. What’s next?

[safe acorn]

E-50M, WZ-132-1 mmm
T110E5

[dusk flame]

👌

[dapper whale]

wz111 shop offer for 5500 gold, is it worth buying

[raw ember]

No

[sturdy glen]

It’s only merit - it is cheap. Other than that - nothing good to say about this vehicle.

[opal tulip]

you're paying 5.5k gold for a tank

[glad basalt]

Is the t110e3s armor as good as it seems

[golden arch]

I dont think so, but if someone has a good spot then it could be

[dry notch]

hull down the E3 is a beast. Keep high ground and face forward to the enemy. Yes the E3 is strong

[dapper whale]

will t22 medium be good or average next update?

[dusk flame]

no

[pulsar hatch]

It was a beast*
Now its cupola can be penned as well as its cheeks

especially by TDs

Everything the E3 does can be done by the 60TP but with more mobility, 700 more HP, better track wheels and better reverse
The only advantages the E3 has is one more degree of gun depression and better armor on flat ground

[pulsar frigate]

e3 funner

[dusk flame]

I know the Chimera is nice, has a nice gun(even though aiming takes forever and reload makes you grow grey beard) and okay alpha dmg.... But honestly, it simply can't compete against other mediums running auto loaders, magazines etc - it seems like they simply forgot to update it when they made new mediums. I love it, but it's simply not competitive... It's alpha doesn't matter when another medium can shoot 3 shots while the Chimera reloads

[weary grail]

Wargaming when, it's a tank destroyer based off the crusader, it's a scale model I found on Facebook and the guy called it the Squire 6pdr

[dusk flame]

I take it back, it's not a nice gun, it's inaccurate as h*ll if you don't let it take like 4 secs to aim

[blissful cave]

Got some new model tanks : D

The 60TP turned out kinda bad tho I’ll see if I can still try to fix it and make it look nicer (ordered these from a 3D print site)

The E-100 and Marder looks really nice tho

I bought that panther with the intention of repainting it but agh the design it already has looks so nice I wouldn’t want to spray paint over that to start over with my own design (I wanted to make Pudel)

[ivory crypt]

Is some of the parts 3d printed and combined from other models like for 60tp for 3d printed

[blissful cave]

The grey ones are all entirely 3D printed (but not by me I ordered them)
The panther is just a pre owned model I got on eBay that I was gonna repaint because I didn’t want to build one

[ivory crypt]

Nice i do believe there is a model for e100 out though

[blissful cave]

I don’t like building model kits but I love painting tanks so 3D printed ones are good for that

[ivory crypt]

Ah i see there a lego model for the WtAuf E100

[blissful cave]

How I’m going to paint these
E-100 like Stalwart
60TP kinda like Kzemien
Panther like Pudel (if I do decide to paint over the nice camo it has rn)
Marder II like the one I saw irl
And Löwe as German winter camo because I haven’t done one yet and think winter camo is underrated and looks so cool

[dusk flame]

Great hobby you got there

[blissful cave]

Or same colors but more subtle like this armored car I saw at “Austrian painter’s” bunker when I was in Poland just now (can I say his name here?) idk there’s some rules like no swastikas even if it’s in historic context like old tank photos or something

[ivory crypt]

All of those are a good choice

[dusk flame]

I take no offense in historically correct symbols. I mean, they're symbols - they're not hurting anyone by themselves - but yeah, there might be rules, because this world has become so over sensitive

[blissful cave]

Specifically just in this server I mean because like I’ve been told I can’t show that even if I’m just showing pictures of tanks
Like Finland used that symbol on their tanks so the ones at parola still have them on

[dusk flame]

Swastikas have been used long before Germany used them

[blissful cave]

Like if they’re not being used in a bad way just pictures of tank history or something

[ivory crypt]

Its the iron cross i think the game uses that in blitz. And yes Mocca is correct abou that

[blissful cave]

Finland used them as their army symbol before Germany did even

[dusk flame]

BUT - that doesn't mean that it's allowed

[blissful cave]

It’s funny when I have to explain to people like sigh no,the Finns were not nazis (T_T)

[dusk flame]

I know 🙂

"One of the oldest symbols made by humans, the swastika dates back some 6,000 years to rock and cave paintings. Scholars generally agree it originated in India. With the emergence of the Sanskrit language came the term 'swastika', a combination of 'su', or good, and 'asti', to be; in other words, well-being."

[blissful cave]

I wouldn’t paint that on my tanks but I was just saying idk if im able to say German leader guys name in that one picture where I got to see his bunker

[dusk flame]

I would totally paint that on my miniature tanks

[blissful cave]

I do have decals of the black and white + tho and will put that on E-100

[dusk flame]

This world has become so over sensitive... when I was young, like a teenager, 30+ years ago... we didn't have all these problems denying history or censoring everything because someone might be offended

We actually read parts of the German Chancellors book(not naming it by name) in high school to better understand how history came to be as it did

But back to what's a hand - I'm looking forward to seeing more from your projects, Galarian Quest

[blissful cave]

Thank u : )
I’m working on E-100 first

I wanted to do Pudel first but I’m still hesitant to spray paint over the current camo to “start over” it’s a nice design I don’t want to ruin it

But I do feel like if I did I would be able to paint Pudels markings really nice so basically I’m just deciding between keep this panther with German camo or turn it into Pudel

Something I would also want to do is at least make it kinda look rough textured like zimmerit since it’d look smooth like this
Essentially it’d look like this if I made it

[blissful cave]

Finished the base coat on E-100 I learned from my mistake on IS-7 that solid black just looks bad (tried to recreate its realistic camo too) it’s easier to see with flash

[blissful cave]

Does this look good or should I restart (E-100 done in washable paint so just that would come off and I can retry that better the base coat will be fine)

[errant oak]

nice

[dusk flame]

Looks great 👍

[crystal hare]

Is Vickers Light worth getting? I am almost to the T-100LT which seems better after the Vicker’s alpha nerf

[blissful cave]

I retried and was able to make the numbers thinner

[dry notch]

Stay with Russian tanks. There’s always a Russian bias when it comes to balancing tanks.

[safe acorn]

Doing the stalwart camo?

[blissful cave]

Yea

[safe acorn]

Welp it looks good
Certainly better than the Jötunn camo
But wouldn't beat red

[blissful cave]

I love Jötunn too tho if I had it I’d use both

[deep belfry]

What is WoT PC even about at this point

[noble moon]

Next they are going to add m163 vulcan

[valid gale]

We did btw these problems never went away

[safe acorn]

Took you awhile

[valid gale]

30 years ago if you were left handed you were forced to learn right handedness

[safe acorn]

Yk since WG made a trailer literally depicting them as Alt history
Might as well get wacky

The Waffenträger event is basically as wacky as BO Zombies lore goes

[meager spindle]

type 89 in wot 🙏🏼

[safe acorn]

Was thinking the Wiesel 1A4

Because yk its still appropriate

[meager spindle]

isn't it on WoT:MA?

seem to remember it being there

[safe acorn]

You're thinking about the 1A2 or smth else

[meager spindle]

nvm it's the lube tube wiesel

[safe acorn]

Lmao it's "literally" classed as a Waffenträger

[meager spindle]

along with the 1A4, we could get this rodent

[safe acorn]

Warrior works for Britain (sadly)

[meager spindle]

great idea, we could add it alongside the A-10

🗿

[safe acorn]

Wait nevermind the Warrior has the MILAN installed mb

[meager spindle]

for the US, xm800 works

no atgm, just a 20mm and dream

[violet timber]

Fox for Britain perhaps

[meager spindle]

R3 FA-HS for italy 🗿

[safe acorn]

Or Sabre

God forbid the RARDEN

[little aurora]

Is that 3d printed?

[blissful cave]

Yes

[little aurora]

Look so cool

[blissful cave]

Thank u : D

[little aurora]

Did you find that online?

[blissful cave]

I also ordered Marder II,Löwe and 60TP with it too so I’ll make those next
And yes 3D scale .de is where I ordered em from

[little aurora]

Wow, I want one now :🤩

[ivory crypt]

Dude same though that I had earlier

[opal tulip]

do the turrets of the model rotate

[blissful cave]

Yes they’re a separate piece

I’ve made a bunch of these I love to paint tanks but don’t like building model kits
Also there’s a ton of tanks you can’t get model kits of anyway like I’ve gotten AE Phase 1,Kranvagn and T57 Heavy and stuff
Also Tornvagn my beloved

There’s a bunch of tanks I wish I could get though that they don’t have like M IV Yoh,T95E2 or E6,T54E2 and few others

[opal tulip]

do the tracks work as well

[spare fractal]

Should WoTB add the soviet T-72? Just the very first variant.

[blissful cave]

That part no

[opal tulip]

we got the t-72 at home (obj 777)

[blissful cave]

But as a warning they don’t come with the 3D print supports removed and for some tanks are HORRIBLE to remove like 60TP I’ve cut myself several times while having to go at this for over an hour with pliers to remove every bit

But for some it comes off cleanly in one piece or barely has any at all like marder II

I’ve found it’s the tanks that have track covers that are the worst because the hull is printed all in one piece
Where as the others the wheels+tracks come as one separate piece

[blissful cave]

Also it’s a gamble how it’ll turn out like look how clean E-100 looks compared to the mess 60TP is (it turned out bad some of the scratches though are me trying to use a file to sand down extra bumps and stuff that shouldn’t be there

[safe acorn]

T-72 Ural seems alright since it's an all steel build with no composites

Would be a faster Chieftain Mk 6

[blissful cave]

Do you think the very first Abrams prototype would work too or no

[opal tulip]

no

[meager spindle]

object 777 II is a real tank in some aspect, completely separate to the T-72

(I get your point but it's interesting enough to mention)

[opal tulip]

there was a model of the tripe 7 i believe, at least it isn't a napkin drawing

[violet timber]

Ural did have composite

[meager spindle]

speaking of look-alikes the 590 is also ingame and vaguely resembles a 90m

[opal tulip]

t100lt is prob the closet thing we have to a obj 775

[safe acorn]

No both Chrysler and XM have composite armor on

[blissful cave]

So does Tornvagn

[violet timber]

Adding any tanks beyond what we have right now would likely involve adding more tiers to the game

[safe acorn]

I mean tbf I guess the problem will then come down to mobility

[safe acorn]

They didn't have that trouble when adding Super Tiers in WoWS so I don't find the problem of seeing them in WoTB or WoT

[violet timber]

I think it’d be neat tbh, having some tanks with very basic smoothbore cannons or composite armor, but knowing WG it’s never going to happen

[valid gale]

No , the very first XM1 pilots were steeled but were designed to utilize composite later on

Xm1 would flat out replace M60 and m48

[safe acorn]

Knowing LESTA they'll have it

[violet timber]

I mean tanks like the T-54D basically already have composite in game 🤷‍♂️

[meager spindle]

cold war alternate tech tree and mm 🙏🏼

[blissful cave]

Add Neubaufahrzeug to the game 🗣️❗️

[meager spindle]

likely? pretty much confirmed through PC lesta implementing tier 11

[violet timber]

Wait what? I haven’t heard of this

[safe acorn]

Thought they had Burlington inserted within the armor

[meager spindle]

https://youtu.be/1P1dtUhr3sc

[safe acorn]

And they all get APFSDS
Funny

They don't want to add actual MBTs so they push up the ones that arent

BZT-70 is an enigma

[meager spindle]

turreted chinese T28, wild

[safe acorn]

So 2 fakes and 2 real vehicles
And all get fake rounds (maybe not MBT-B)

[opal tulip]

its possible to pen the ferdi with HE lmao

[fast grove]

what is blitzkit? i've been seeing this often but i haven't played much until now

[wild lotus]

Good luck hitting that.

[meager spindle]

basically blitzhangar/armorinspector merged together and better than both

[dusk flame]

I think this very much depends on which part of the world you live in. But yes, granted, there was more…”generalization” back then. Too much maybe, like there may be too much “diversity” now.

[safe acorn]

Would be best to just draw the Iron cross or something
Since it's more common seeing them

[blissful cave]

Yea iron crosses are better on German tanks anyway
And for Finnish tanks I prefer the roundel

[viral sand]

This tank has too much armor lol

[safe acorn]

Still idk why Finland didn't bother to bring the Panzer IV J to the H standard even after the war

They used it as late as 1962