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Actually... shockingly its actually a different hull model, they just failed in terms of making it look like the actual one.
Tech tree???
Yes
ah oke
Tier 7 for the Murat line
i know
after all those years i finaly have them all..
How many years?
idk didint count
now get all their legendaries
so uh gold no exsist
its good tank or bad i just drop him
Have all three plus their legendary camos
no money:(
I just get gold from containers from draws when I get gold from boosters
so im Deciding between these 2 tanks in the store the raumpanzer or the t77 which of them is better to get???
For me it's T77.
I tried to make an Operator's Manual for one of my Fictional tanks xD
Guys, someone in my clan has a tank called the ms-1 mod , ive never heard of it, and it says that its researchable, but i cant find it on any tech tree
Probably an old tech tree vehicle that got converted into a collector/premium like the SU-76b
But it doesnt have gold letters, or blue letters, it has normal letters, like on a maus
Cuz they removed them in game, and later they added them as collector (the tank stats stays on acc)
It's a removed tier 1
oooooh, ok
What about tiger 1 armour?
Guys, im having a hard time between 2 T8 german TDs, which one would u recommend? JP2 or Ferdinand?!
JPanther II
What's the best armor tank for t7
@somber gazelle Does it have to be researchable? Gravedigger might be up there
Probably T29 tbh
e10 is probably up there now, tiger had good armour before calibrated buff, that tank with the samurai looking turret can't remember the name one sec. Lupus lol now that i see it again the turret doesn't resemble a samurai
I’d say forest witch
But that tank has already been forgotten 
Only free tanks
k lemme thonk
Smv?
Best turret at the tier, but its hull isn’t as good at the T29’s
I thought it was the other way around 
Yeah now that you mentioned it the t29 hull does feel great against t7s
Not t8s that’s for sure(unless you’re a t49 with the 152mm)
Imagine minotauro with normal autoreloader
If you don't use the 3rd shell, there ya have it.
Should I get E-50M, T-62A or Kranvagn?
mino is a TD rhino
Is leopard 1 worth it if i buy it?
Why does the E10 have bad penetration though it's a 140mm gun
Balance
128mm guns have alpha damage of 460...
The tiger 1 easily pens my fully upgraded e10 turret
Literally the E100 but in tier 7🤦
It is what it is
Angle
E100 with 150mm gun deals 680 and 60TP with 152mm deals 630
Ask the same for KV-2’s 152mm gun. Pen isn’t directly tied to caliber, and in Blitz, neither is damage
Makes sense
therefore 60tp alpha must be buffed to 690!!! (joke)
buff 183 alpha to 1500 and give it tugsten
A nightmare
seems balanced to me, although ngl no meme the 60tp could use more HE alpha, 720 is comically low
155mm up to 720dmg
Welcome back Foch meta
foch meta is one of the few funny ones to have, it either works like a charm or fails miserably
Only 720? Xd
when you consider the vk 72's 900 (while also having tungsten) e100's 1020, and even the is-7 has 600 (while also having tungsten) < and besides the E100 i consider the two to be more viable currently (then 60tp)
it seems bit low
Hori have 640 HE alpha
and the foch (2s) has 620
When the +15cm HE can't overcome spall reduction dmg
At least have autoloader
heavily reinforced paper armor
guys what do you think is better, t62a or obj. 140?
140
But T-62a doesn't get punished severely if you do any mistakes
What do you guys think about the obj 907?
There's a special ability once you turn from Leopard 1 to Obj. 140: Permatracking
1v1s become easy against heavies and TDs. Leopard can manage too, of course, but Obj. 140 can be oppressive about it.
I personally think T-62A is a safer, and therefore more viable option, but it's not productive to say Obj. 140 is just a worse Leopard 1. They have their tradeoffs
Here's my stats on the two tanks. Both have 11 battles (conveniently, I didn't intend to make them match) and my gameplay in Leopard 1 is more focused on dishing damage instead of snagging kills like I do on Obj. 140. I don't believe the winrate matters that much other than the fact I at least made the difference between <40 and >60. It is worth noting that I'm a good player, but I main heavy tanks so my performance isn't anything special. I clerly haven't played the tanks to the point where I sure know how to make a glass cannon work.
My T-62A stats are old but gold. This was after the gun depression buff and it is just an easy tank to play and perform well in.
These are Amx-50
But which is the true Amx-50? Im confused
Well first one is 50b third is second is 50 120 third is 50 100 they all are the amx 50 but true amx 50 is the 50b
All of them.
But one costs you a ton of money the others don't.
The Amx 50 100 looks like Lorraine
It does tbh is just a heavy Lorraine basically
Oh the hull looks different
The WoT naming for the AMX 50 isn't entirely correct.
First one is the AMX 50 Surbaissé,
Second is the Surblindé (Uparmored), and the third is just the first prototype after the program changed from AMX M4 to AMX 50 and the required specs increased.
Which is 50 100 which is Lorraine
Lorraine has pike nose hull while the amx 50 is flat
Difference between the third AMX 50 and the AMX M4 is the gun. The former has the 100mm gun.
Ok tank nerd I don't need a lesson on tanks
I do tho
I'm not a nerd, thought.
Especially not in french tanks.
That is @safe cedar 's role.
Like the french tanks they're unique from the others back then
I like the looks of French military vehicles in general.
Mostly tanks and ships.
Not exactly
For example their is an AMX 50 proper with a 90mm gun and the turret from the original AMX m4
Best said, AMX m4 is the initial hull, and the AMX 50 is every hull afterwards in addition to the AMX m4.
Ie, the AMX m4 is an AMX 50, but AMX 50 isnt an AMX m4.
Ive heard some rumors about a new french ship I have been unable to confirm. It was an idea for a type of battlecruiser/heavy cruiser with a primary battery of just 4 330mm guns in a single quad turret.
Well, now that's a proper explanation on the AMX 50.
Hmm..
Dunkerque but with Erebus treatment?
I keep hearing that tornvagn Isa really good t8 so I decided to buy it finally so yeah
A t8 noodle head
Potentially, if such an idea is true, I would imagine it would be a contingency design if France needed to produce more ships, given France seriously struggled to produce large battleships, and Potentially smaller pocket battleships could that could be produced in a greater quantity could have been useful in securing overseas territories.
Is tornvagn truly goodd?
In hulldown? Absolutely
Force it to fight on flat ground? Atrocious
good? Ow to spend the 2409 gold from the 4959 from type 57
Indeed.
Problem was battleships escalating quickly in size during the 30s, basically becoming a game of building ships to counter your neightbour's.
We can pretty much see the trend begins with the Deutschlands, the French built the Dunkerques to hunt those down, then the Italians wanted to play by building the Littorios (and struggling at that), then the French answer that by having to to bigger with the Richelieus, which I believe to be easily the best european battleships of the time, then it's the Germans' turn with the Bismarcks and the H-class proposals going even bigger, and with that we end up with the Alsace designs.
Certain things should have their own physics on tanks like how wot pc/console does like machine guns bounce when you stop or flags actually waving faster when moving or things from camo reacting to the motion of the tank
Also ramming should do increased damage to external modules like the tracks and gun and the impact should disorient the crew of the receiving tank so you can't do many things normally and if you don't have anything to heal crew you are pretty much screwed then it'd be a funny thing for grav force for heavy tanks
Its funny how its a game of countering, when ships take several years to build.
However I believe before alsace, the next French capital ship slated to be built was gascogne (after my region)
Yeah, but Gascogne is more of an Richelieu with balanced layout, and still part of the same class.
I think it would have been a neat ship to see.
Nonetheless, its a vertible shame how many battleships were outright scrapped with little parts kept
How countries as immensely wealthy as France & britain lack the competence to save even a single turret is beyond me.
Also, I think we should move to #off-topic-discussion
Guys which is better E4 or E3
i would say it depends on the driver, they are both td´s. your style, the enemy setup, the map etc etc. will make you drive em differently. i prefer E4 cuz of the turret and i normally drive it agressive :). just one mans opinion. e3 packs a funny punch.
E3 if you wanna annoy the enemy lol
2 votes on the E4 and E3
E4 is more flexible, and the line is decent with T30 being just as flexible
E3
Go for E4 because you can grind for E3 later, using T28 Proto to research T28, and therefore skipping tier 6 and 7 of E3 line
E3 is better in the current meta due to having the ability to nullify armor while it's own armor still holds up
I regret selling E3 for 3 million, still wonder why I did that
You missing out E3 good (but get E4 first ofc)
the second one has the hull of the lorraine
i sold E4 and T57
bruh both are good tanks, why?
E4 and T57 bc i was angry
Not tank's fault bro, it could be teams issue. get those back when possible, E4 is great as a brawler and T57 is a great shoot and scoot tank
were they fully upgraded btw? crew + equipment
no, i have a lot tier X to buy
did you tag the wrong message? Seems like you meant "I am trying to buy other tier 10's so I won't buy E4 and T57 right now"?
E4 is not a good tank
E4 is fine
It’s one of the better tds right now
I never said best???
btw
Now you’re just trolling
263 might be the only tier 10 TD worse than E4
Tell me you don’t play tier 10 without telling me you don’t play tier 10
"E4 is one of the better tier 10 TDs."
It is
I play T10🤔
Consider elabortating on it? That thing has decent armor against heavies (except lower plate but that's most tanks for balance), good DPM to hold enemies in place, 400 pen on prem with cali , decent despersion after running refined gun (use case dependant)
Decent armor?
That's a lot of green
And if It angled at all the shells will go through the sides
💀
60TP
Balancing is something that exists in this tank, unlike the WZ-113
I’m starting to think you aren’t actually trolling
You not trolling right now is even worse
Oh, so then most tier 10s are mega garbage, gotcha
Unless you like being hit with HE shells and a 180° turret traverse
Also APCR standard with sub-par armor
Guess I won’t playa nothing other than meta tanks, because everything else is mega garbage. Thank you mayo nasal spray for opening up the eyes of a noob like me!
60TP aka ammorack machine, VK 72 still valid
If you position like it's your first Battle ever sure
275mm apcr is fine for standard, and it's armor isn't annywhere near sub-par unless you can't position properly.
275mm APCR is really bad
💀 what
It's really not unless you're a bad player
For a TD
It's hot garbage
Doesn't even benefit like at all from calibrated shells
It's literally fine for what it is, the gun is accurate enough to make up for the lack of normalization apcr has
Accurate enough is the same as "It works sometimes"
It's really not
If .300 accuracy is "it works sometimes" for you, then I'm scared to see how many shots you hit in game
E4 is meh tank
If you re bad yea 😂
e4 is allright, issue is t30 before it exists and sets unrelistically high standard
kv jr needs better dpm
Guts
Would y'all say the Endurance is worth buying right now or should I wait for it to come back cheaper?
If you want it, get it now. There is a very, very low likelyhood of it coming back
Is it good?
Very similar to the 13 57
Nvm its not for sale anymore, thought it was
💀
???
E4 is up there for one of the most inaccurate tanks in tier 10
Oh, I guess equipment isn’t a thing anymore, my bad.
Oh yeah I guess when E4 uses equipment nobody else can
When did I say that? You’re the one trying to argue it’s inaccurate when it can get to .300 accuracy
But why use it when you get even lower values with better tanks?
It's not even the case of 1
It's multiple
You’re right, we should all just play the most meta tank available, all the rest are so bad they aren’t even worth considering
I’m sorry that you need meta tanks to perform well, but that’s not my problem. E4 isn’t the best tier 10, but it’s far from the worst.
No, this is a case of arguing the worst possible tank for the job
E4 is the worst of the 150 type tanks
263 is like it's little brother of the DPM tanks
Both of them are significantly outclassed, and I want to see them useable
But you cannot in any way argue they are good
E4 is entirely useable lmao, over 3k dpm, relatively accurate, good armor, and a turret to boot. If you can’t make that work, that’s your problem, not the tank’s.
But those are heavies. E4 is a td slot.
E4 is a heavy in a costume
Which is better than it actually being a heavy, since it doesn’t take up a heavy slot.
So use WZ 113gft if you are worried about heavy slots
6° GD and a non-fully traverse turret is not worth it
Oh yeah, back to the only meta options are worth running!
But why use Jageroo when you can use 113gft?
But that’s what you’re arguing.
I never did that, you did. You’re the one saying “why play anything else when you can play meta”.
Jageroo is not meta
No, but VK 72 and 113gft are, both of which youve relied on heavily.
60Tp is pretty close to meta lol. Then, when I use your own arguments against you, you start putting words in my mouth.
I'm not the one making these words tho
You are. Where was comp ever brought up before you said it? Better yet, you said that I was the one making it about comp, something you brought up in the first place.
@violet timber
By you
I wasn't even talking slots
You brought it up
The E4 is not fun
The line
Is not fun
There is 0 reason to go For E4
Because it's a sub-par heavy
The 412 heat really does not like working on E4
did you just initiate slow mode so only you can post?
@tulip steppe have you ever sent a message on this server?
Anyways
E4 is a waste of time all around
on blitz discord? yes of course
It's kinda scary how similar the lines for 263 and E4 are with the tier 9s being the highlights
Then you would know we have had 30 second slowmode for years Bullveigh
Unreal how they ruined a tank that was mid for years
It was good for like 2-3 updates then WG did the dumbest move ever by switching its ammo and forgetting to change the velocities
Still stands why does its heat fly faster than APCR literally 2 principles that work against its ammo worsening it
Don't worry they'll play with the velocity numbers for like 15 tanks but it will only be by like +/-20m/s I love those Updates
Leopard 1s supercharge was tweaked and they removed 90 M/S for no reason
Like yeah they have no idea what they’re doing
So that's talking about comp???
Where do slots take a place other than a casino and vending machine
Pubs as well lmao, having another tank that can act as a heavy without taking up a heavy slot is pretty big
They really don't matter at all in comp since you can just have 7 heavies if you want to anyways
I've been in pub matches with full 7 heavies on both sides
I don't think that's a concern
And you know that's rare lol, don't try to act like it happens all the time so slots don't matter
It's rare to get all 7 on both sure, but seeing 6 on both sides is surprisingly common
There's normally some poor sucker in a medium and another in a light, and I've been the medium plenty of times
It happens sometimes, but having a TD slot that can act as a heavy is incredibly valuable anyways
That's why Jageroo, 268, or 113gft work better though, they have the armor but don't trade pretty much everything for a half functional turret
E4 doesn't trade everything either lol
It trades armor, accuracy, alpha penetration, and DPM effectively, as well as overall mobility (with Jageroo of course being slower though)
It's armor is still good, it's accuracy is also fine, it's alpha is again fine, it's dpm isn't sacrificed at all
Depends a lot
That's going to eat into your DPM, and also with APCR as your primary and lower accuracy stats that also is going to lower your effective DPM
It's pen is 275 on standard, the APCR doesn't hold it back that much, and again, it's accuracy is completely fine. It really doesn't have lower dpm like you say it is. All of your points are just skill issues.
You can say that if you like but you are the only one moving to insults to prove a point
What I've said is true and the fact will remain
I'm just making an observation. In order for all of your points to be true, you'd have to be a bad player or playing the tank wrong
These are truly the stats of a terrible tank.
The only way to play a tank with nothing going for it right is all down to luck. AT 7 is one of the vehicles of tier 7 of all time.
But AT 7 isn't good because the gun is in a wonky position, and the Mobility and camo are also bad.
But it's armor and gun are pretty solid
AT 7 is still bad
E4 has a similar predicament to Obj 268v4
It does bad it legit does not pen as much as it did before the ammo change
275mm apcr really isn't bad lmao
It's easier for bad players to use, but better players will choose better options that fill a similar role
With .353 dispersion and worst in-class aimtime it is
I mean the graphs show that E4 is doing better the more skill you have...
E4 lol bounces way more than it did when it had AP and as a 4005 and chief main APCR prem only works reliably when it’s above 300 pen
Is that not true for every vehicle?
Not necesarilly, some do really well for noobs and not as great for good players, but with this relative WR just keeps going up, showing that the more skill you have, the more the tank gives.
Which again
Applies to any vehicle
Relative WR doesn't mean that much, what are the real win-rates
I mean, it doesn't apply to every vehicle
11.0 changed Ho-Ri to be worse for good players overall
But you said that every tank gets better results the better you are.
It's true, a good player will always perform better
But some tanks don't perform as well relatively
Such as?
...
And what else that didn't get important stats nerfed while newbie friendly stats got buffed
And the heavies?
Then 268 is as well
wow i didn't think people were struggling in is4 so much after 10.3, it's actually been one of go to heavies in ratings and i'm liking the gun and slight mobility over the old armour
After the nerf it required some brain usage and the community had never been more devastated
The M62 is a fantastic gun
And now WG is probably going to overbuff it
If we could get a tier 7 rebalancing that would be awesome
overall tier 1-7 rebalancing
Should?n't buy it
only if u really want one of the tanks, otherwise no
E 25 is a fun meme but in practicality terrible bundle
3250 each full equip and goodies, id saybthats a good deal
Is Jageroo good?
Aight
Whose the partner for the battlepass this Month of August 2024 ?
Is the Jageroo good he asks......
is the rino good?
The Mad Games guy
What do the images mean when they show up on the display screen on the back of the blasteroid tank?
Does anybody have an answer?
Wait a minute D for Duck, The fist probably means attack, the hand is pointing where to go and the flag could mean a point of capture...
Go... Attack... The... D... Point!
Every time I recieve damage from an enemy tank, the white flag always appears on the screen
Every time I do damage to an enemy tank, the boxing glove hitting the brick wall always appears on the screen
Which tank should I play to grind credits?
Badger
Lowe
Any premium u have
Even if it's a lower tier?
Is IS-4 armour getting nerf? Why is it so easy to get pen?
They nerfed it back in 10.3 to turn it from a pure heavy to a heavium
Bunker is4 was peak
guys can u guys tell me tips for 60 tp?
Never sidescrap , especially against a TD
Attack the D point‼️‼️
What tank should I select
Polish Medium, Italian heavy, frech heavy or Chinese heavy?
<@&481447501690568709> profanity
overlord_of_death has been warned.
definitely not polish med
Go all on 50B or Rino
@violet timber Why are you even arguing with a terrible player making terrible points? It aint worth anybody s time big boy
entertainment
One of the strongest in tier 7
But I have it and anything can kill me dose it have armor
I just got it I must have all equipment and upgrades for it to be good.?
Just hide the hull
All your important armour is on there
Because right now a t6 tank can always shoot me
So only the front is good because I be facing them front only and always get pass my armor
They say the t29 is the best in armor but idk how maybe I just don't know how it works
When I face other t7 they all red idk what am doing wrong
Just stay hulldown
That's the point of this tank
Ohh thank u two so much
I wish I was not cheap but I can't afford that ammo
Okay
Are u in NA server
I need a tank recommendation
Ha-Go
Is the stb1 still going to be good after this next update?
There's no exact/official stats on it yet, so it's too early to put in any conclusions
Ok, I’m just wondering if I should put in the time to get it because I have had the tier 9 researched for a while but never bought it
50b, p44 pantera, Škoda t50 and TVP t 50/51
Thanks
Don’t get TVP, it’s really not worth it
Oh ok
It’s in a pretty sad state right now where it is essentially the worst auto loading med at tier 10
Which one are good tho is what I wonder 🤔 💭 🤔
4.5 secs for 1200 dmg sounds fun
That sounds good
Sure, it’s burst is great, but the rest of the tank really isn’t
What do u want? Armor? Pls no
No lmao, I just want a tank that’s more flexible in its damage output
Prog, Carro, and BatChat are all more flexible in terms of their abilities to deal damage
Prog is one of the best meds, i dont hace carro abd bc is op
Prog isn’t one of the best meds lol
Also, none of what you said changes my statement, TVP is still pretty inflexible in its damage output
I dont like any tank with 4 shells btw
Okay?
3 shells auto loaders sre better in my opinion
Should I Research stb-1
Very good tank
Yes
Until you can't hit your shots
Let me check gun handling stats
It's about fear factor, enemies will run from you like crazy
I suggest type 71
Stb 1 is a better choice
Maybe
But it doesn't worth 5k gold
STB
Kunze pz is goated i got it free on the 2021 birthday event
Yoh line is perfect
I already have it
What tech tree. Has the fastest tanks
Leopard 1
RU 251
play on the second line and try to stay just in hulldown
🗣️🔥🔥🔥Buff IS-7
What tank to get next? I have Type 71, sheridan, IS7, obj 268, VK72.01K, Fv215b and the kranvagn
Its already a good tank
it will get a nerf next update
Do u know where i can read the buffs and nerfs in the next update?
wotb news
well droodle blitz discord server
Can u send me a invite? Appreciate it
Aeson’s news server
Can u send me a invite? Thx
i can't send it idk why but go on google type blitz news discord.
if that's helpful srry
if thats the wrong server or smth message me.
Maus 🐭
No not that box thing i want something else
E4
What tanks got HESH? I really like HESH tanks
British tanks
But many say that medium tank is bad
Standard B
German too
Only 2 German tanks get a HEP round
The rest of the lines have HESH as well
Leopard 1 has it
No it doesn’t
It doesn’t I swear I seen it
It's just 53 pen lol, the shell may be named HESH/HEP, but it doesn't act like one
Which tank does have it
RU 251 and HWK 30 both get HEP rounds
Oh shoot the blackdog does as well
That doesn't make them HESH shells
Ik I’m just saying u guys play the console or
Hi, is T77 any good in blitz?
yeah it's one of the best tier 8 premiums right now
thanks mate
Is it good?
I played and was pretty difficult, but also strong
I just checked and it doesnt have hesh
It has HEP
Oh aight aight
the british medium is bad right?
Yeah, the line is pretty solid though
It's good
Yea i have the tier 8 tank and its solid in my opinion
It’s arguably the worst med at tier 10 rn
I played it and have nothing wrong with it (the turret armor bro 💀)
Get the tier 9, it’s worth it imo
Yea i was facing it with my M60 and the whole turred was red
The turret is incredibly hit or miss, the gun isn't great, and it's mobility doesn't save it either
Mobility for me already good because i always play tank destroyer
That doesn’t make its mobility good for what it is though
The gun for me are good
And one more thing.. i think It's already enough for me
You can think it’s good, but that doesn’t suddenly make it good
Indeed
So whats the best tech tree medium? Dont say stb1 or whatever its called and E50 ( im not sure of the names )
WZ 121
It is objectively a bad tank, and like I said, arguably the worst med at tier 10
@solid gate right now STB is the best tech tree med. some other options are the 62A and M48 which both are more fun and aren’t restricted to solely hulldown gameplay
What about progetto and the other auto loader med?
Prog is alright, TVP is not worth it at all, the tier 9 is arguably better
Tvp is not good any longer? I remember it was really good
Prog ist fine, tvp i suggest to not Grind it
Hmmm idk what tank to grind man
is improved assembly (+100 hp) or enhanced armor (+3% armor) better on the amx mle?
k ty
HP
are these all the right equipment for amx mle
Toolbox is better, the rest seems fine
k
Is the 121b good or bad
Please don’t use track repair
why not 😭
Because it’s inferior to repair speed
but i figured if the tracks fully repaired after they broke it would be better since u wouldnt have to suffer with the speed nerf that damaged tracks give
Damaged track don’t do anything
It doesn't have the same pen of a british one, but 105mm still counts, plus you got a autoreloader
Any tips on the 752?
Should i sell kpz 70?
Universal heavy tank equipment
Or T95E6
Don't sell tier 9 and 10 collectors
Uhhh ok
I’d use Cali and tool box but it’s alr good 👍
Damaged tracks don’t require much damage to be broken again, but it doesn’t affect mobility whatsoever
oh i thought ur tank got slower when ur tracks were damaged

Will B-C25t be weakened?
No that would be your engine or driver
Although I don’t think driver affects acceleration only steering maybe
yeah i know i just figured tracks did that as well cause like a damaged wheel on a truck might slow that truck down a bit and tracks on a tank are like the equivalent of wheels on a truck
what you think which tank usually play by bad player
jgpz e100
e100 as well
Tanks from popular nations ie the Soviets and Germans
Yeah, mediocre
So E4 or E3 💀
im confused both of you guys make really good points so im hesitating
Just go E3
Should i get keiler or action x ?
What nation do you like? What is your gameplay style?
Do you like fast-firing tanks with high dpm but low alpha dmg?
i like high dpm tanks yea, rather than high alpha
Then get the Action X. Literally has everything that I said .)
i see thanks for the info guys
🤝
no kpz is hot and its like the second or third best tier 9 collector (imo)
why calibrated shells? the prem ammo on amx mle already has really good pen
well i mean i havent really run into any problems yet with penetrating tanks unless its turrets on tanks like 60tp and stuff
cause the extra dpm is nice
alright
Calibrated shells better
Dmg tracks makes it easier for your tracks to get destroyed
i mean i just kinda figured having 130 more dpm whilst having a high alpha would be more beneficial but idk, guess not
No it’s really not
i mean would 40 extra pen actually help that much? i dont play a whole lot so i dont have the level of experience to see the difference in the two numbers
1st row I recommend the right one, second column
Yes, easier to pen something like the e100 turret
so
221
122
222?
Yes
alright thanks
is that a vk 90?
dang so thats why i been struggling to pen those things
also where do i find that so i can see tank armor profiles and stuff
ty 🙏
ok ty
so putting calli on something like grille wouldnt really be worth it since its prem ammo is already like 370 or something?
alright thanks
whats it do
wait ur saying this is bad compared to calli on like a k91?
dang ok
what tank should i choose
Soda t45
does the +3% armor buff ever make much of a difference on a tank?
is the t57 worth 70k free exp + a t10 certificate
Which one?
Pedel
t25 is the best option
I chose type 62 bcz I wanted it a lot
Wait hold on I didn’t get 30 days of premium 😭
i chose amx cause i didnt know t25 was a collectors tank 🫠
I lied it was a certificate
if i knew t25 was collector i woulda sold it for gold and gambled in the grand surprise draw smh
lol
What is the best tier 8 in your opinion
T77 maybe
Do different tank typs do better for credits
when does the projet murat french medium will come guys??
Season 5, October
i got object 907 from surprise containers is it good ?
thanks bro
op man
Right considering the new buffs and changes. What line should I insta buy with free xp?. I'm thinking CS
This isn’t true at all
Vents are a solid option right now for quite a few autoloaders
Keiler is the best of the bunch
Makes the 330 view range spike up to 340 in bc…
You clearly haven’t used bc enough
Cali is for those who want an easier time penning something frontally
Are you gonna confront something frontally in a bc?
No. You don’t. But clearly you have not used bc much or perhaps even at all.
So I don’t expect you to know
Vents make life easy for you in a bc
Spot them far away, snipe, relocate.
Rinse and repeat.
But then again bc was op because of its ability to use its clip effectively unlike most other clippers
Penning nothing is absolutely hilarious
I barely use prammo on the rear of tanks
In fact I never do
He can’t even see me 240+ meters away
Well that you do since you can’t relocate to the rear of anything
Point is bc can rely on vents since it has other strong as hell aspects like its view range and camo that synergizes well with its clip(+ clip reload booster)
And Cali on t57
.
I don’t mind sending one perfect gameplay
That shows how to use bc
💀
Are these equipment good? I'm comparing to mine and asking out of curiosity. Why vents no penetration ???
if I already own the Centurion Mk5/1, is it still worth getting the Caernarvon AX over the Keiler?
I see, what makes the AX better than the 5/1 in your opinion?
Keiler is a better tank overall
I sent a replay in dms
Of how to properly use bc
Avoiding direct confrontation
As long as you relocate constantly to where you aren’t seen and can hit the weak spots
Cali is pointless
You can tell I’m running a ranged build with super charged and refined
Okey
keiler really better than action x? i just kinda am not convinced, maybe to little keilers in the game
Same here, I've seen the Keiler once, and that was 2 years ago
i oplayed against it in 1v1 tournament and absolutely deleted it, while beign demolihed by action x
I see the AX multiple times each Tier VIII session I have but I unironically have never seen the Keiler for 2 years now
Interesting, AX's seem to perform pretty decently as well, the one time I saw the Keiler we just rushed it and won
Which gun is better for SMV 64 the single shot or autoloader
single shiot altho it was nerfed i think so maybe it changed but tis still prob better
Single shot
did stb get changed?
Max speed increase by 3 km/h
Base Reload time from 7s to 7.4s
this very update? no armour changes?
ggs to wg for neutering leo, 30b, chieftain and 50b
yall cant balance at all and nobody are happy with the changes ur making 😂
what are the changes
Basically Leopard loses even more footing against the E-50M
where would u say the e50m ranks among other mediums in t10? like is it top 10? top 5? top 3?
Right now it's pretty solid
With the reload, armor and consumable buff, god knows
is it like t62a / stb level good or would u say those tanks are still more worth getting
i never play mediums so im kinda out of the loop in terms of whats good (i dont play much to begin with, so i just mainly play amx mle, t95e6, and grille)
It's on that level
alright
T62A worth ? Xd
Hell yeah they buffed the 132-1
Rat Chinese tank my beloved
Probably my calling to research it finally
Shouldve done it when the Ace requirement was 2k damage
idk ive just heard its good 🤷♂️ (i dont own a single t10 medium)
i take that back, i guess i did have a TVP before and i sold it cause i was averaging like 1600 dmg a game in it and i just didnt have fun with it 💀
No point buying it back now
Shadow of its former self
yeah i only sold it a few weeks ago (decided since it got nerfed it wasnt worth sitting in my garage wasting potential credits)
Been hoarding up a good 300k free exp
Hope Murat is worth it
I want TVP looks fun version of FV 4005
im in the middle of like 4 or 5 tech trees rn im so cooked
its not as fun as it looks, trust me lol
Was fun pre-nerf
At this point get the 25T
dumping a clip into someone for 1500 sure is fun, yeah, but when u peek u get tunnelled so wildly it makes it hard to even do the spotting job of a medium tank
plus after u dump ur clip u gotta run away for 25 seconds and its like impossible to support ur medium teammates in that time so u get cooked pretty fast
25T?
BC 25T
isnt the bc just a better and smaller version of the tvp
like if the bc had four shots in its clip and the clip reload time was changed to 25 seconds like the tvp id still choose bc in a heartbeat
Chieftain isn’t anywhere close to neutered
Wasnt there smth about the Chieftain's weird turret profile getting a buff so it's actually uniform
Bro the panther SUCKS
Wym
Nah panther it's just max mod it's fast reload and speed good
Someone got Panther'd
nope in tier 7 panther, my rng sucks for no absolute reason
That’s just you coping, your rng is the same as everyone else’s
And you were kind of right xD
And its the same with Bz-75
Panther paradox in Blitz's form
Good bye tanker cat see you soon 🙂
👋
See you tomorrow 🙂
-6 dep
Isn't that bad

What does Neutering mean?
Basically removing the reproduction organs of something
But in the context of this convo, it's more to "removing the effectiveness of something"
Like removing dpm from a leopard?
Yeah
So like, removing the main reason of why you choose a tank over another tank, i see
i dont like tanks with low gun dep
Play kranvagn
Stb1 or yoh
kranvagn is a real good tank but i seem to get bad teammate luck whenever i use it so ive lost a lot of interest in it
Which tanks gun are you talking about
Alpha damage can be funny sometimes
But there are specific tanks that actually have unjust alpha for varying shell types
Hori I would say is fine since I wouldn’t risk using HE from long range
I’d much rather use standard or even prammo ap to confirm a shell
I know my shell damage I’ve played the game long enough
I think there are other factors of a tank that decides whether the gun can be capable too.
Imma finish my movie.
Not gonna answer a question you and I both know the answer to
cool
But can I watch my movie in peace now
How is LTTB nowadays, I remember times when it had a huge frontal armor and 60km/h while shooting like a king. But a lot of people were asking for a nerf. So how it it after those years?
F: 125 (didnt full pen 🫠)
yes it is 😂
it loses traverse, aim time and the prem apcr
and gets tungsten(???) and 200mm hesh(???)
its gonna have about same level of aim time as sconq afaik and thats not rly good enough to hit weakspots
Its base accuracy and otm factors aren’t really an issue, meaning the aimtime really won’t affect it. And it’s also getting gear oil, tungsten is a very good consumable, and HESH will allow it to output even more damage when played properly. The only way it’s neutered is if you’re bad at the game.
Just researched 113G FT. It is good triangle or rather nah?
It's good
buff E100 like this
I guess i chose the right tank, got an ace on my 2nd battle with the action X 👍
Good :)
Um guys, am I safe? Or Should I leave the Country!?!
YT family " en sala de entrenamiento "
Wargaming is cooking.
spotted this t42 for the first time, is it rare?
it's rare because it's mid and most people sold it, otherwise no
Keiler or Action X?
Depends, do you want to play defensively or aggressively?
i chose action x already thanks tho
Keiler is better overall
Keiler has better armor... Why action x? Its mid
the normal caernarvon is better
Pick whichever you like more : )
Gift?
action x fr
Amx-13-120
AMX-20b
Just got K91. How is it?
Pretty good
BTW 50k golds. 😄 You can buy anything atm. 😉
I'mma wait for chieftain mk6 , not a good one but surely good looking
Goated
You consumed everyone's luck for today, shameful
What tank do i get?
how
Pilot 1
i guess good but its not a tech tree tank
Sowy 😦
From where do u get this
Hi, any idea what time the 114 SP2 container shows up, this time Chinese serve already have it...
i heard that T-54 was that strong that it could fight on par with tier 10 tanks
is that still true or now T-54 is worser?
T-54 still is among the strongest tier 9s around
Ohh, it's quite a luck then
Bruh is there anyone know about, i saved 40K gold but i think im no longer can keep it🥲
Bruh…
I maxed out the entire awesome draw and only one tank drop the entire time which was just a tier 5 duplicate
I got 2k gold and im happy because i put 500 gold in
Great for you
why am I getting so much credits with the sheridan missile? I am doing way more damage and assist with other tanks
Gotta stay strong brother. Atleast try to wait out until next month. I too have 33k gold saved waiting for a good tier X to drop for gold.
When)?!
Could be Black Friday, could be Christmas
Doesn't matter since it's going to be underwhelming despite it's popularity
Bad 4005
make sure to not use gold ammo
I never do... Even on ranks and still I am a platinum. 🙂
that is very good, u should also remove provisions and consumables since they are pay to win
Nah, that's actually a very good stuff. 🤣😂😅 And still cheaper then hitting heavies/td with gold ammomo
no remove them, pay to win is bad
Trolling or misinformation
Call it
As long as I can make enough silvers per battle to be still in +few thousands then I am fine. 😄 😉
but if u dont use them u will make more!!
I got the M60 from the Awesome Draw, should i sell it or keep it?
👀
poison on wz 113 gft at big boss should be ilegal🙏
Is the gsor fearless any good?
gsor but you butcher down the clip and hesh alpha for 2,7k dpm
also a furry camo
My suggestion for Minotauro rebalance
- Nerf lower plate and cupola base armor to 150mm, this will make them both viable weakspots for mediums
- Belly armor to 30mm so it can be overmatched when say driving over a hill, and not lead to an awkward autobounce
- Nerf armor above tracks to 30mm so u can pen it through the tracks when its driving over a hill
- Buff turret front from 240mm to 260mm so u are less likely to get buttered by tier 10 heavies running cali, making it a more skill based tank and not pure braindead gameplay - u wont be invincible in hulldown as ur cupolas are mostly autopens, which encourages cupola blocking and wiggling
If this is implemented, it might be possible to slightly increase hull traverse and or top speed which should ideally encourage more aggro gameplay
I'd that good or nah
If i buy this skin will it be available for original progeto 46?
Maybe stupid question but I realy want to buy it and don't know if I need different tank
Yeah it’s for the regular premium prog 46
Niceeee ty
worse astron rex imo
Swiss or other Countrys tech tree lines bevor GTA 6
Doubt we’ll get new countries when they refuse to even add a second line to Sweden or split up EU : (
id sell it and use the gold to gamble awesome draw 
lol
Entire awesome draw+crates that came in those crates+chief bundle only a single tier 5 duplicate 
With my luck I would be deep down with profit fs
of course
i had 2100 gold, spent 1k gold and i ended with 2450 gold and some free xp 🙂
draws are super good until they start costing like 400 gold or more
i wouldve had 3k gold but the last two draws i rolled i got two legendary avatar containers 💀
Draws are rigged
lol
my first three draws i got 1 mystery box and 3 mega containers so i prob shoulda stopped there but oh well
I want to collect all the best tank in each of these categories I’m just not sure what tanks they are or if I have the right tanks:
Heres the list so far:
Highest top speed:
Fastest acceleration: m41 bulldog ✅
Fastest rotation: t54 lightweight ✅
Fastest turret rotation speed: Ru251 ✅
Fastest reload: Churchill ✅
Largest: Maus ✅
Most armoured: Maus ✅
Most Hp: Maus ✅
Smallest: Ue57 ✅
Most damage: FV215b 183 ✅
Most concealment: E25 ❌
Highest penetration: Ho-ri ❌
If you know any of the tanks/ if I got any of the tank wrong can you please tell me.
Thanks
Highest pen is Ho-Ri I think
Thanks
smallest is ue, no?
This one?
Yea
Cool thanks
I shall verify that
ru 251 has the highest too speed iirc (it used to be something like the bt-2 before they nerfed them all)
highest traverse i think is the m41 bulldog (im probably wrong i dont remember very well and i dont feel like going through all the tanks to check that)
rarest tank
Thank you
Depends
Rarest tank Ke ni otsu (never sold again)
Rarest obtainable tank AE Phase 1
Can you get the keni any more
actually i think its turret traverse i was thinking of and not hull traverse 💀
cant get ke ni otsu anymore no
I gave up, probably is though
lol all good I’ll add it anyways
I just check in game stats pretty sure you right
weegee made the mistake of putting it up for sale a long time ago lol
You can recover it on the official war gaming website
F215 already as gotten to much buffs now this
Does anyone know which tank has the fastest rotation speed
It’s turret already can be really hard to pen
fastest (hull) rotation speed is the T-54 lightwight iirc, can get 80
Thanks
How do I get it to 80
use the improved control
Okay
There adding sandbag to e50m
Now all I have to do is max crew
Nice
88 holy
183 needs little damage nerf bye 30 or 40
It’s crazy
bro can do a 360 in 4 seconds
cant wait for droodles to make the balance changes
imagine being in a dpm battle and u do a 360 mid fight between shots 😭😭😭
What tank should i sell for gacha
for what 💀
why u call it gacha
anyways i personally wouldnt sell any of those, they are all good tanks that are fun to play
Ah ok
I sell E6 3 times and WG give me E6 when opening box

e6 is such a good tank
I usually go MT side with this tank :)))
yeah e6 is a medium tank disguised as a heavy
its maneuverability + dpm + weird armor makes it a good support for medium/light tanks
Would you sell any of these?
Sell t25
well dont sell premiums, they might be turned into collectors jn the future and selling them for credits just isnt worth it
id say selling magnate, e10, and blasteroid isnt worth it, but the other collectors id sell if i was in need of gold
if u arent in need of gold at the moment there isnt much use for selling them, just save the tanks so u can play them if u wanted to and so u can save that gold for a moment u actually need it
Ok, thanks
No
Do we need the char 2c
Even if they do, good luck waiting in the forever unending queue for a miserable match
Much unfun
I heard next update the chieftain mk6 is getting it’s premium shell replaced with HESH, which I think is interesting but please wargaming just give it 2 guns like the FV4202, some people will love hesh, others not so much!
I would love selling it for gold
lol
Unless it's the Bis
I have decided to go for all tech tree med, light and heavy. And last tech tree for me is russians where I currently have to play Kv-1 into tier 6.... And it is hella pain. 😄 This tank is extremly slow, so since tier 6 and 5 players play like rush and win/lose. Then you ussualy are a lot behind them... + When you get into fight as almostly last surviving tank you have easy spots for tier 6 to get clamped.... This tank feels totally bad. :/
PS: I played even mitsu and Japanese heavy till tier8 and have to say it gave me better feelings
KV-1 is 30% as good as it used to be
And I don't know how it works but mitsu sometimes played tier4-tier5. But with Kv-1 I am getting only tier5-6 fights... :/
That’s just unlucky
Is it worth to buy this perks on emil. Btw emil 1951 is my favorite premium
They are completely useless and only you will be able to see them, but if you like Emil 51' enough and have free exp to spare, I don't see why not
Not at all
how do i get the 114 SP2 its the only t10 i need
Buy it once it comes out again
do batchats have are like unable to miss
in 2 games ive seen batchats hit like 7 one in a million bullets, hittign a small point through the whole map
N
Whats the best td line to grind? i have usa td line unlocked they were pretty fun. i thought about doing another td line or even a heavy line
the yolo wagon the obj 263
oh boy...
Is obj. 267/4 better than vk. 90.01 p or amx 30 and if not is vk. Better than amx?
3 different type of tanks youre asking there
Depends on your playstyle, if you like meds , go with amx 30
Vk 90 is very strong but rear turret tanks have different playstyle, you might need to learn it first to enjoy the tank
Obj have strong armor, but lacks gun dep, kinda like a slow 263
All 3 tanks are strong but not invincible, the easiest would be obj since its more forgiving
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What would you think of a 2 shell autoloader gun for the vz55 Like there is one in WoT?
Does anyone have the screenshot s of "balance " changes.
Is grille 15 tierX and Minotaurio worth to grind for someone not familiar with TD role? Like can they be driven as heavy? 😄 🤣😂
which gun for the M-Y-Yoh? the 3 shot or 2 shot?
@pulsar temple M-Y-Yoh has 3 or 4 shots
that is a difficult question. it depends on a lot of things
ok guys i accidentally sold my amx 30 1er prototype, i I couldn't get it back anyway (i tried) so I decided to gamble my way out of it (as one does) and after at some time i got object 752. Is it better than that amx or did i lost my gold forever
Much better
You just got the best tier 9 around
Literally just playing Tier IX on easy mode
Gamblers mindset
Pls
Bajo Jajo skin for CS-63
M Y Yoh xd
@errant oak what you laughing at punk
M-Y-Yoh doesn’t exist
M-V-yoh
Also, M-V-Yoh doesn’t have a 4 shot gun
Look at M-IV-YOH 4 shots
this vehicle should not be let as boss
Yeah if a doom tutel gets it just give up this is why
That’s a different tank entirely
@violet timber still copy tank
PC finally pushing to get their EK1
Armament is similar to ours, 105mm compared to RU's and Lesta's 152mm
Not really
Is it just me or we can't use camo on custom battle
💀ain't no way
weirest trio
You can
How much does vk 168 cost in the shop and when does he usually show up?
it usually is sold when gravity is up and costs 5,5k
What do you mean lesta has a 152mm version
0,1 reload time
real
Yep
Point of this from a wot video?
Anyone know what the tank was supposed to be? Or if it was gonna be a Camo?
It’s so over
It’s a mod
AND IT GETS MORE DEP
So it has garbage stats for a 105mm
The 152mm has more gun depression and MORE dpm and the exact same speed
nice camo its fanmade or WG/Lesta stuff
new tier 9 gamba tank
this is a camo mod made by aeson
A dth str said I suck as boss then I locked in and got 3 ammo racks 17k damage 9 kills
If this became a tank I think the name should be wt marksman
The lesta version is more advanced lmao. In WOT PC it looks more balanced compared to WG version (I haven't tried WOT blitz by lesta) but I wouldn't be surprised if the same happens in WOT Blitz
blitz is in a great state, they listen to their community, give them a lot of free good events, and of course balances tanks well
you refer blitz by wg or lesta? sorry for my question
yes lesta blitz
later i will try it
waffentrager
Is this a good deal I already have 5100 gold
I also seem to have the barrikade camp for the vk leopard despite never buying it?
Is the 30b a good tank?
It’s a French leopard with more annoying armor
ye, Type is pretty fun to play
K
I’m loosing my mind bro
E50m getting reactive armour and t110e4 getting sandbags… that’s crazy
no, centurion 5/1 better
Not to mention e50m getting armour buff
Wsg Rick
Everything is more broken there
Is the ARL 44 an OP tank?
no lacks dpm
Used to be
Now it's just strong
it used to be op, but everyone says it's been brought down, i haven't played it in awhile
Wz 113 (Chinese heavy) line any good
yup, it lost a bit of armour last rebalance but they made the gun handling better and less frustrating,
Other tanks in its line?
oh sorry yea the tier 8,9,10 are good, nothing mind blowing but good, i cant remember the tiers 5,6,7 though
Alr ty might grind it
The ARL has 2010dpm
I already have the cent
then you don't need to buy, keep playing that tank you have
What happened to my game, it's keep unequipped the camo whenever I played
between T57, VK72, Ho Ri, which one is more intermediate player friendly? (abt 5-6k battle experience)
i remember couple years ago i was bullied by that tank so hard
VK and Ho-Ri
wut abt t57, like is there anything particularly wrong with it? (ik armor is a pain)
Requires serious repositioning since they took away the armour from the PBR buff but forgor to give it the decent mobility it had prior to the buff
It’s mobility really hasn’t been touched since release
Guy to day i open mystery citificate and got the VK 90.01 p
I just got this tank, any tips?
i don't like it very much, its fine when you're top tier but its nothing when you're bottom
I played it, the gun is good it's just like youre playing a slow leopard
i felt like a sluggish medium, so you'd think it would have a bit more armour, you get a clutch bounce sometimes but feels like all medium standard just rips through
I got the E75, and I already unlocked the Maybach engine and Turret E75 aufs. B what should I grind next? The reinforced tracks or the 128mm gun?
why is there an asterisk in tog ii*
you'll benefit from the tracks but if you're a player that doesn't brings prammo, then you'll want the 128 first
should I sell my AX and T44-85 to buy the e25 and kunze panzer bundle?
no
but I really want the e25
mid tank
ok
t44-85 bravery? thats a good t7 mediums
buy t77 instead (if you have enough gold)
It’s the British was of designating a variant
I always bring prammo in my loadout for the E75 and other german tank predecessors in it's line.
Just use max tier 10 gun 12.8cm for E75 anyways
you should load at least 5 prammo on every tank it comes in clutch when you least expect it
That's the thing, it's not unlocked yet.
🤤
I got this three, and I still didn't even get chieftain mk6 💀, although for alpha predator gacha it's quite lucky
At least, turret first later engine, tracks later gun ( armo APCR should be 7-12 shell )
I load 15-10 prammo for the E75 rn.
i only say that because with prammo its easy to unlock tracks and 128, but without prammo someone would need the 128 before tracks or it would be a long grind
My guy, should I get the fv4202?
war gaming should add the tog i
No
How about that fridge above her
I should prioritize getting the 128mm gun, I already got the engine and turret unlocked.
hard to play
Brits is the only country I haven't got tier 10 with tho, how about this 183mm then
get 4005
Good thing, thanks 👍
No problem 🙂 You from APAC server?
i hate driving heavies with slow traverse and i think on soft terrain or water it goes nowhere with tracks and engine upgrade lol i do remember the stock engine, ugh what a nightmare
Yes, and currently having a win rate of 64%
Stock mauschen etc💀
Oh, me has E 50 M, E100, FV4005 and sherdian missile ( my nick )
how many battles?
i haven't played mauschen, i got the maus back when vk 45b lead to it , haven't gone back to play the Mauschen
Not much, currently playing on a new account rn
How much? 500 battles or something?
The avg spd is 18
And I forget about stock tutel's avg spd is literally 3💀
That's good though, make some friend? Name in info me
Sure 🙂
No problem 🙂 I have already E100 and E 50 M from grind also Sherdian Missile and FV4005 Henhouse
I also have Sheri Missile
Ok if want i have already after 3 days of grinding
One question, is Skoda T 56 a decent tank to use because I have it in my garage rn
I sold my pz.II.J
A bit good, but acc on this gun is bad and aiming time is slow
Bro the your pfp makes it even more sad than it already is
I have a question
Or blitzkit
AC IV Sentinel :[
Oh ok
@valid gale took a bit longer than expected but I finally got the AS-90
I now have 2 British lobbers from the contracts augh
Yo guys with the upcoming nerf for the stb1 is it worth it to grind the tank?

