vehicles-discussion

[blissful cave]

I remember around when I first started playing I assumed getting a ton of crates was a good way to have a little starting assortment of tanks to use so over the span of like 2-3 months I bought like 100 collect em alls…not a single tank

I’m like 35 boxes 5% drop? I’ll probably get two maybe three tanks at least (dumb idea I know)

[zenith shadow]

the only 2 things i got was the tier 6 sentinel and the dracula. chances are just terrible on those lootboxes. pretty sure i opened over 20+ of those after i opened drac i think my luck ran out of there

[long hearth]

Anyway I just got the 20 amazing box from gacha in only 6-7 spins💀

[blissful cave]

But then not that long ago I got a kanonenjpz from a single crate from an event or something

[long hearth]

Maybe the most generous one IMO is just the Mystery or that red box that will give you crates that either will give the tank or thousands of gold

[blissful cave]

Idk why but awesome draws I usually profit from ending with the same amount if not more than when I started (if I know when to back out)

[long hearth]

I just cashed 5.5k and ended up getting 19k in total

[blissful cave]

I usually don’t get a tank sure but I got all those resources and extras for free if i end with the same amount of gold

[long hearth]

Btw I just don't understand why, I can log in on other games

[blissful cave]

Technically I got two tanks but I don’t count that I got skoda T56 from the red box but i already had it so the gold drop and the duplicate compensation are the same
And I did get a second one and luckily got K-91 a tank I already had and sold so I got 5K instead of 1750 or whatever the 80% gold drop was
But no new tanks no

[long hearth]

I Got smasher and helsing tho, quite lucky

[nocturne mirage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYE-j8qTXLs So good to know

[quasi wedge]

stb

[hollow crag]

is this good?

[lyric copper]

its pretty good

[hollow crag]

i got it from a collect em all container

how do i play it?

[lyric copper]

you kill mediums so your mediums can help you kill heavies later on

[hollow crag]

alr so i go with mediums

[lyric copper]

you always do

[hollow crag]

ok thx, im just happy i got a tank after gambling so much lol

[errant oak]

Very good

[blissful cave]

A very nice tank I love T95E6

[glacial plume]

Question is the wz 122 tm good?

[wary summit]

Kind of

[blissful cave]

Yesterday would’ve been perfect and I missed it but you know what? Screw it todays tank of the day is the killdozer

[white lake]

Wonderful

[violet timber]

Yes

[glacial plume]

Rip 🪦 🕊️

[errant oak]

Better than italian tanks

[blissful cave]

As in better than the fake Italian tanks or just better than Italian tanks in general

[safe acorn]

Both

The killdozer weighs over 60 tonnes and ran on a 400ish horsepower engine

Technically by all means a heavy tank

Armed with a 50cal sniper and a 5.56 rifle

Ah yes the more reasonable answer

[nova sundial]

🤣

a greased up kill dozer

[errant oak]

Its better than italian irl ww2 tanks

[swift quail]

WZ 111-1GFT good?

[hollow crag]

How do I bounce shots in the t95e6

[errant oak]

u cant

[meager spindle]

if hulldown, after firing, or if you feel like someone is about to fire, make sporadic movements with the turret to potentially throw off shots to the middle of the hatch or cheeks, doesn't always work but it's better than nothing

anywhere else, your not blocking anything

[limpid ether]

@blissful cave

Hey I found another "Tornvagn-like"

[wary summit]

Soon-to-be Stryker turret on da Centurion

[safe acorn]

Me omw to spam him all of the turret less combat vehicles

(Already did a few months back)

[safe acorn]

Because it is

[valid gale]

It’s the future

[safe acorn]

Felt like a line the engineers behind the Concept 1B would've said to the DoD

"no general, it's not just a tank. It's the future of warfare and Armored Combat"

[valid gale]

The Germans were very enthusiastic with it going far enough to make the gun on a crane position

Demonstrators do at expos

[safe acorn]

If WGs gonna do collabs with other video games and movies

Please, Like a Dragon collab for the Japanese line

[safe acorn]

And the Brits wanted an ATGM launcher for that

[valid gale]

It is a better idea to do it with missiles after all

[blissful cave]

Beautiful

[somber stream]

Let these two of tanks from wot join in blitz right now

[limpid ether]

Another pic I found of the "Centurion LPT"

Found another vehicle with a "Low Profile Turret"

Whether or not this is real and not a mockup is still unclear though (yes it's a EBR 90)

[safe acorn]

That ain't an EBR chassis tho

More LPT turret proposals
Meant to be modular ig

[safe acorn]

@nocturne mirage damn as far as tank development goes
I think I'm beyond any paper production run

[solid gate]

Should i sell the t22 medium or 121b for super Pershing?

Alright

[safe acorn]

And?

[onyx raven]

No. The Super Pershing is mediocre at best.

[zenith shadow]

way better than fake ah rhinoceronte 🗿

[blissful cave]

Yea rinoceronte is probably my least favorite fake tech tree tank
Least favorite fake tank? I’ll have to see

[balmy compass]

Honestly I think Rinoceronte looks really cool

[blissful cave]

Yea if you don’t count the obvious fantasy fakes like annihilator then rinoceronte is probably my least favorite fake

[safe acorn]

Man early Swedish tanks have such bad performance wth

@blissful cave WG gets the classes wrong sure
But I do love Gaijin classifying Strv 74 as a light tank

[blissful cave]

Nahhh no way💀

[hazy fog]

Got to see a tank today any idea what its name is? I could tell what it was called

[blissful cave]

M60A3

That was the first tank I ever got to see in person

I wish they’d make the M60 in blitz the A3 to be more unique and set it apart from M48 Patton

[balmy compass]

convert M60 to Starship

[hazy fog]

I knew it I was guessing m60 but I didn’t wanna put it out there immediately lmao

[blissful cave]

Add M60A2 as a separate tank

I’d like that so much that’d be so cool
In game it’d be basically M60 hull,concept turret Sheridan gun

[balmy compass]

it'd be fairly toxic lol

[blissful cave]

A medium derp tank? Why not sounds fun

[balmy compass]

apart from that huge cupola you'd be pretty impentrable hulldown, and you still retain good mobility

[blissful cave]

Yea they can give it the huge cupola to balance having the thin turret

The American cupola seems to be an optional thing when they want to balance a tank
Like tier 10 M48 Patton and M60 don’t but Räumpanzer does
Even other stuff like T54E2 had it but they didn’t want to make it bad so they left it out

[blissful cave]

It doesn’t seem like it’s supposed to be a hull down tank like concept 1B or Tornvagn with their thin turrets it’d be more like medium Sheridan probably heavy support? Idk

Nah it’d probably go towards medium side and bully medium and light tanks with big funny gun

[balmy compass]

yeah that would be the way to play it

[molten otter]

this better than chimera?

china has the best camos imo

[foggy cloud]

Wz 114 camo top

[frozen pewter]

I think its better since it trades its mobility for armor ( chinera is just the opposite )

[errant oak]

Worse

[solid gate]

Is panzer 58 good?

I think its called panzer 58

[blissful cave]

I got it recently it seems to be alright

[nocturne mirage]

What do you mean by this?

[safe acorn]

I'm beyond books atm
Or what I'm looking for at least

[nocturne mirage]

As in starting to build your own designs?

[safe acorn]

No I'm trying to look for more prototypes now
More information about them

I want more and I can't get more

[valid gale]

In another world rhino makes a lot of sense

[white lake]

I used to like finding paper prototype designs to use as references for my Sprocket designs

[nocturne mirage]

Sorry its taking so long, the books I read should or may have what you searching for, but the cash hasnt flew in yet, my bad. Remember I said I will buy a few from my side and then relay which I have been reading thus far☝️👍 no trust me these are darn good ones, newer types too, so not 80 or 90s info, a mix of current info or a few years ago and having authors in the 80s and 90s referances here and there if any 👌

[safe acorn]

If it doesn't say anything I don't recognize
I'm gonna tweak

[nocturne mirage]

Ye I figured, I think you will like them swimmingly then 😂

[safe acorn]

That depends on what they are tho

[nocturne mirage]

Tanks, aircraft, submarines, ships, indoctrination, positions, formations, tactics, eh its to broad and I refuse to give any other info, too risky lol

[safe acorn]

Don't really care much about tactics
Neither much on Naval vehicles
Aircraft maybe? Preferred if they were on the jet age anyways

For tanks I'm not really certain

[white lake]

Indoctrination sounds interesting

[nocturne mirage]

I aint saying nothing more

[nocturne mirage]

I aint saying anything else, I hope finally I get moolah to bloody get more, its rather addicting..who knew but they are

[violet timber]

Either M60A1 or M60A3

[safe acorn]

Ngl I hope WoT continues making fake tanks that have subtle references at least because I can eventually dig something up about em

[valid gale]

A3
It has the sleeve on

[violet timber]

The sleeve which was also given to M60A1s that were still in service

The only differences between the A1 and A3 are internal, such as electronics

[white lake]

The Waffle and other Waffentrager designs is perfect for something like that

[valid gale]

A lot of photos and even surviving examples do not have it which seems have been added on A3

[safe acorn]

They already covered 99% it with the Grille 15 and Skorpion G
Anything else would feel like a copy paste with a different gun

[white lake]

Yeah, fair

[safe acorn]

Am I at wits end with my tank development knowledge?

[hazy fog]

GUESS WHAT I GOT TO SEE TODAY!!!!!

SHERMAN JUMBO WITH THE SHORT 75!!!!

[blissful cave]

YOOOOO

[hazy fog]

I KNOW AND THE BALL MOUNT STILL MOVES!!!!

[blissful cave]

NICE I frickn love the Sherman Jumbo I got to see one it was the long gun version tho

[hazy fog]

WHAT YOU GOT LUCKY that’s basically a modified easy 8

[blissful cave]

When I got to see the M2 Medium the mini wheel mounts still move : D

[blissful cave]

Nah it’s just the long gun the wheels down there are still the regular Sherman suspension not the HVSS

Time to go ask WG to make the Sherman Jumbo available for the billionth time because I frickn love that tank so much and want to be able to play as it

In game it’s the long gun version
(Probably had the short gun as a module a long time ago but now that it’s a collector it’s long version only)

[errant oak]

jumbo was a tech tree tank right?

[blissful cave]

Yea it’s one of those removed tech tree tanks they removed those long before I started playing so the only way I’ve been able to get them is when they occasionally make one available I’ve been able to get a few of my favorite tanks luckily like T-28: )

[sonic briar]

What is that ? I don't recognise him

[blissful cave]

It’s a Sherman

I’d need to see the wheels for exactly what kind tho if it’s an E8 or not
I’ve seen some regular M4’s (not E8) with the improved turret and gun

[valid gale]

76mm cast hull

[blissful cave]

Yea thats the E8 suspension

So in game terms it’s basically the M4A3E8 with the tier 5 Sherman’s round hull

[nocturne mirage]

I have a waffentraeger that you probably never heard of, Russkan saw it already and even he said interesting lol

[nocturne mirage]

HVSS suspension: High volute spring suspension

[sonic briar]

Thanks , because I visited the Saumur tank museum last year and just don't know this tank in my photo

[nocturne mirage]

Thats a tank by the looks of it used by the 2E blindee french armored regiments, the map of lorrain is a prominant symbol for the french since the fighting there and its liberation, they are very proud of it, much like the 2 blindee being allowed first to do a parade in the liberated paris. The map is that blue symbol with that white land in the middle

[sonic briar]

Yeah , I know it . I'm french

[nocturne mirage]

👍

[nocturne mirage]

let me check if I have this tank or a tank from its C comapny by the looks of it. In my books hang on

[nocturne mirage]

Okay so its from the 12e regiment des chasseurs d'Afrique 2e division Blindee and is from the 3e peleton it seems, looking at a M4A3 (76) tactical number 55, so instead of 51. from a number, say 50-75 it would be in this case it seems a platoon, so 3rd platoon.

[nocturne mirage]

A tank in my books most closely associated with the tank in your photo's platoon

[sonic briar]

Yes , but except the turret , their not the same

[nocturne mirage]

hence why the top one is an M4A3E8 and my tank a M4A3 (76) The M4A2, M4A2 (76), M4A3, M4A3 (76) were the most prominant tanks during the Dday invasions and after the liberation of paris, from there the bulge happened and then only then the M4A3E8 came into service, I think in december 1944

[sonic briar]

Oh, yes , you right. I misunderstood you. But now it's ok

[nocturne mirage]

so the M4A3E8, the tank in your photo, came much later, around christmas in the bulge 1944

[sonic briar]

Ok , thank you

[glacial plume]

Long shermen

[nocturne mirage]

no it isnt, its fine, you want to see long, for a bug? Hang on

[hazy fog]

This is mine now lol

[blissful cave]

You want to see the other pictures I took of it then? : )
Or other tanks they had there

[nocturne mirage]

thats a long sherman...

[hazy fog]

Y u h

[white lake]

Show me

[glacial plume]

What is it?

Seems like a French variant

[nocturne mirage]

name it

[glacial plume]

New td leak??

[nocturne mirage]

it is, its from the 2e division blindee, 3e escadron

[nocturne mirage]

used by the Panzerjager abteilung 3, so an in service waffentraeger, not just kept on the sidelines like others, actually used in the very last days by this tank hunter battalion

[nocturne mirage]

no not new Td, just showing the guy top if he can ID it, no one help him pls

[white lake]

I think I mightve saw this before, is this a Krupp prototype?

[glacial plume]

Looks like it has the 8,8

[nocturne mirage]

Not much info other than its location fought and who used it etc

[nocturne mirage]

it does, the KwK 43 L/71 gun from tiger II

[white lake]

Definitely is one

Oh wait no it's a prototype of a different company

If it fought then it 100% isn't a Krupp design

[glacial plume]

Doesn’t the panther have the same gun?

[white lake]

Welp, beats me. Guess I'll have to google this one...

[nocturne mirage]

L/70

[glacial plume]

Close enough

[white lake]

Okay, the Ardelt design

I knew one was approved but didn't remember the name or exact design

[nocturne mirage]

thats it good job

[white lake]

wooo

[glacial plume]

If memory serves me correctly it’s the same gun mounted on the Nashorn and jagdpanther, Right?

[nocturne mirage]

yes

ok time for squad 44 bye

[glacial plume]

What’s the anti tank rifle used on the L3/33 CC?

[nocturne mirage]

i dont know

[glacial plume]

I love tanks which only has a anti tank rifle as their main armament so smol

[nocturne mirage]

https://youtu.be/uYE-j8qTXLs if you love tanks and ww2 specifically or dont mind it, get this game. This is what I am doing right now, and its so good. Sorry Russkan 🤣

[solid gate]

STA-1: no armor, no mobility , 1753 dpm at t8 buff please?

Give it a 280 gun like the Altproto or something cus it’s just not making it

[glacial plume]

That actually looks sick what’s the name?

[glacial plume]

Change history then

Realistically the only thing good about it was its mobility and it’s ability to fire heat-fs

[solid gate]

And realistically the annihilator didn’t exist

[glacial plume]

And realistically wargaming needs to make money

[solid gate]

But won’t they make money by making players want to play the game, I want to grind the STB-1 yet I’m stuck here with a tank that playes like how dust taste

[glacial plume]

That’s how they make you spend money to progress faster pass 💩 tanks like that and also there are other lines that can be grinded and basically all lines have that one tank that just sucks

[nocturne mirage]

Squad 44 or post scriptum previously

[glacial plume]

Heard of post scriptum before but never played it I want to tho

[violet timber]

At least use the tank with a full crew, equipment, and provisions before trying to say it’s bad lmao

[nocturne mirage]

Ye its pretty dang good, its really realistic, not going to lie, the tanks how you view them, from driver, gunner, and radio operator and commander, is realistic, the guns handel damn good to, with each being different, the visuals too as you saw, the sound designs, a maybach is distinguishable from a Ford GAA engine or GAF etc, the strafing runs of planes, the damage you take when blowing up. All solid, there are mods that have done the entire interior of all tanks how they are in real life, but I prefer the devs to add them, which they will most likely. As an infantry guy, your roll in the squad your equipement stays true to the true roll in real life, effects are top notch too

[solid gate]

It is bad, and upgrading everything isn’t gonna help with the grind much

[nocturne mirage]

effects like these 👀 makes you come back for more, thats a tiger II being ammoracked by a panzer IV🤣

[glacial plume]

Closest thing I play to post scriptum is war thunder

[nocturne mirage]

does it have effects like this tho? Hang on you must see the plane strafing runs and stuka, wait then I go play

[glacial plume]

Yes but the STB 1 is a very great tank and very worth it

[glacial plume]

At this point might as well go ahead and join the military

[nocturne mirage]

Hahah, naa I just like the realism aspect, always been that type of person with that crave lol, but it ticks the right stuff at least

[violet timber]

If you think an extra 500 dpm isn’t gonna help then you have bigger issues than the tank itself being bad lmao

[white lake]

To be fair a real battlefield is pretty traumatizing

It might be better to experience something similar to it in a game that turns it to fun instead of risking PTSD

[nocturne mirage]

sadly seems I deleted it, cant keep so much stuff on the system anyways, will try and rec it again, oh well

[nocturne mirage]

fully agree also I think with graphics like squad and its general sound design or just feel and look and effects, a netflix like series of ww2 in pixar like human like graphics could work, basically a series in this graphics, but ww2 and its entire battles, operations, tinies to largest. Dont know about you, but some of those battles were beyond massive

and some fights so intense and glueing to your seat, it will be addicting, with correct sound design and looks for things in general (staying accurate) could be a really insane netflix original series

keep it realistic and people will be hooked no doubt

[glacial plume]

Same here lol

[nocturne mirage]

then you will thoroughly enjoy squad, need a decent pc tho ngl

[glacial plume]

I have PTSD from the kv 2 hiding around the corner while I drive pass in my m22 in war thunder

[white lake]

I have PTSD from seeing the barrel of a FV4005

[glacial plume]

We’ll see

[nocturne mirage]

have some screenshots, but doesnt give the full picture ofcourse it doesnt, still I will dm them to you personally

[glacial plume]

Ok

[glacial plume]

Having a 10000 lbs bomb dropped on you

[white lake]

I love having 2 bombs sticked into me! I love being an opentop TD and getting spawnkilled by a fighter! I love CAS! I love CAS! I love CAS! I love CA

[dreamy flame]

Whats the best light in level I-V

[lyric copper]

said plane being spawned after a single assist (cas spawn point costs are totally fair and balanced)

[nocturne mirage]

sent hem

[glacial plume]

CAS shouldn’t be easily spawned

[white lake]

It shouldn't but then the midgame is filled with like 10 planes on each team and 3 of them are on my ass LIKE BRO LEAVE ME ALONE I JUST GOT INTO MY M36

I HAD TO SHOOT DOWN 3 PLANES WITH A 50 CAL BECAUSE THEY WERE ON ME LIKE MOSQUITOS ONLY TO FINALLY GET BOMBED

[lyric copper]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-tiktok-meme-reaction-gif-302590748747153531

[nocturne mirage]

the irony, mosquitos do that, thats their job STOP complaining!! 🤣 Jokes tho

in squad an attack run, looks I dont its deadly, but its doable, its not 10, its like 4 planes strafing you at the same time, with the stuka its a one shot try

[glacial plume]

Man I was in my pt 76b getting strafed by 2 PLANES and it doesn’t even have anti air 50 cals WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH A 7.62 MACHINE GUN???

[zenith shadow]

Oh nah they fr be giving us a churchill crocodile without flamethrowers?? There isn’t a crocodile without having flamethrowers

https://youtu.be/Unj7LUZJFFk?si=4s7XG9DCY8Sv5JbJ

[white lake]

I'm glad that Americans put 50 cals on literally everything

EVERYTHING

[rigid rover]

what tanks r good rn

[white lake]

Uh, alot are good now? Think you should be more specific

[rigid rover]

lights and mediums

[lyric copper]

tier?

[white lake]

Batchat is EXTREMELY good right now for Lights, Sheridan is also pretty solid still

As for Mediums a bunch of them are great but the tops are typical with STB and Leo 1, T62A and Obj 140 are up there too (I've heard of the M48 being great now but since I don't own it I won't comment)

[rigid rover]

t8 and above
i have the sheridan
i think ill get t62a because i already have the t9

[zenith shadow]

smasher and annihilator

[rigid rover]

💀

[zenith shadow]

😏

[zenith shadow]

dracula

[violet timber]

Tier 8 and above…

[balmy compass]

most definitely the Lansen C

[zenith shadow]

alright alright enough with jokes but uhm i would say if tier 8 and above lancen C lorraine 40t type 57 su130pm Lowe chrysler K K-91 object stargazer kpz70

[rigid rover]

i have borrasque

[zenith shadow]

thats great one

[rigid rover]

most defenitely lights and mediums
you said

[solid gate]

IS-6 is okay. Two major dislikes. Gun accuracy and reload time. I wish WG would lower it to 10 seconds. Also, unless the recticle is shrunk all the way, expect to miss completely or hit a spot you weren't targeting. Otherwise it's a decent tier 8.

[rigid rover]

yeah the is6 is such a great light tank

i think the is6 was super good like 3 years ago when there werent that many tanks in the game but now its just mid compared to all the t8 prems

[violet timber]

It already had a better than average reload

[valid gale]

When the game was in infancy is6 was one of the best Tier 8s you could immediately buy but was inferior to is3 course now there’s like 6 clones that are better than it

[solid gate]

Not the case anymore. The ISU-130 with a bigger gun has a faster reload time than the IS-6 even with an adrenaline rush.

[violet timber]

They’re completely different tanks…

[blissful cave]

Tornvagn is my favorite tank : )

[solid gate]

Doesn't matter, a premium tank should be superior in all ways compared to regular vehicles but that's my opinion.

[violet timber]

It very much so does matter. Premium vehicles shouldn’t simply be better, and ISU-130 doesn’t have the HP of the IS-6 nor does it have a turret, so your entire argument falls apart there. Also, ISU-130 is a premium tank as well, further going to show that you have no idea what you’re talking about.

[valid gale]

Lol glad you don’t work on balance here then

[violet timber]

“Why can’t my heavy tank have a better gun than TDs and more mobility than lights while still keeping heavy tank armor and HP!!!!!!”

[valid gale]

“I paid for it you don’t understand”

[solid gate]

The Tortoise doesn't have a turret either. It has a 120mm gun and 1800 HP. Just 100 off the IS-6. Only 7 seconds to reload compared to 13.6 seconds for the IS-6 a premium heavy tank. Care to explain why the Tortoise has such fast reload times compared to the M103, IS-8, ST-I with similar guns? So my argument is very much credible. Your statement goes to show YOU don't know what you're talking about.

[solid gate]

Yeah because the first thing to go would be bot mm.

[violet timber]

Tortoise is a different tier, your comparison is irrelevant. Tortoise is also a TD compared to the heavies you listed, which have a pretty large hp advantage and a turret.

[solid gate]

Tortoise is OP.

[valid gale]

Tortoise is classed as a TD and has 2 loaders first off 2nd the UK is known for having high DPM 120mms their drawback being penetration on premium or horrible armor

[obtuse saffron]

yo guys got wz114 is it any good?
i currently have 57 wr 2800 avg dmg in 24 games with it

[violet timber]

You're comparisons are essentually the same as saying "Why can't the PZ. 2 have the same dpm as the leo???"

[violet timber]

No, you're just bad. Tort is a slow TD with easily accessable weak points. It's not op.

[obtuse saffron]

i cant win games tho thanks to beautiful teammates

[valid gale]

Which doesn’t exist no longer

[solid gate]

My point is the IS-6 could use a reload buff. To me 13.6 seconds of a reload time is excessive.

[violet timber]

Use the dpm gun. If you use the pen gun then it fits right in line with every other 122mm heavy at the tier.

[valid gale]

When it’s immune to a lot of HEAT from most mediums and lights of tier 8 being able to kill them in 3-4 shots no it’s reload is fine

[violet timber]

Taking the dpm gun on IS-6 and rolling med side is the only way to play it

[solid gate]

Wym?

[valid gale]

There is no bot MM and SBMM existed for about a month before it was unsuccessful and removed for good

[violet timber]

bot MM is still a thing

[valid gale]

For a portion of the playerbase yes

[violet timber]

For players under 5.5k battles

[tulip steppe]

i was just looking at that old gun on is6 sacrificing pen for dpm, but with calibrated shells the way it is, i might have to try it out

[violet timber]

Nah run it with rammer and just go med side, there are very few meds that would actually be an issue

[solid gate]

Unless you play it right. I can't remember the last time seeing it in battle lol.

[valid gale]

So

[dim charm]

how 2 play foch?

[violet timber]

The very obvious cupola on top that everyone can hit:

[valid gale]

You admit then tortoise isn’t OP if it doesn’t appear often?

[solid gate]

I'm not admitting anything, just haven't seen it because I haven't been up in those tiers lately. But I'm sure it'll show up as I play in tier 8 more often.

[violet timber]

Tort having an avg wr of 49.9%:

[violet timber]

So OP bro

[solid gate]

It was damn good back when it first came out. Perhaps maybe the players using it aren't very good. Maybe I could do better in it.

[violet timber]

It really wasn't ever that good

[rigid rover]

its armor was annoying to hit but now u have like 250mm pen tanks

[white lake]

The Tortoise isn't bad but it's not "OP" either. It's pretty easy to deal with

[valid gale]

I mean same can be said for the type of tank it is

[violet timber]

If you really want a dpm TD just use the Jagdtiger

[white lake]

Especially so for the Tortoise because it is slow and has a tumor growing out of its head

[valid gale]

Jag su 122 54 all have insane dpm they can’t use

[violet timber]

Jag can definitely use its dpm

[white lake]

Jagdtiger can def use it, idk abt the 122 54 since I don't use it

It's solidly armored and has great pen

[solid gate]

I'll give that a try. Hopefully you aren't giving me bulljive and fattening me up for the slaughter.

[violet timber]

idk bro, maybe I actaully know what I'm doing in the game

[solid gate]

I'm starting to get the hang of it. Just need to correct some minor deficiencies in my play.

[coarse blade]

In provisions

Put 2 improved gear oils, One Improved Oil.

In consumables

Put 3 Engine boosts

[dim charm]

🫡

[obtuse saffron]

anyone have tips for wz114?

iam averaging 2800 but my wr is 54 with it

[solid gate]

Yeah the IS-6 gun could be nerfed BIG time.

[lyric copper]

tortoise is NOT OP LOL

[solid gate]

Well it used to be back in 2018-2019 when I last played.

[lyric copper]

still no since everything still was able to pen it

[errant oak]

Use gold

[obtuse saffron]

?

[lyric copper]

medium side, hulldown, use your HP to help your mediums win

[obtuse saffron]

thanks ill try but its so slow

i can do damage but i cant win matches

[errant oak]

Which one?

[lyric copper]

probably not the SP2

[obtuse saffron]

tier ix collector one

[errant oak]

Use a heavy tank for a med side is XD

[lyric copper]

kill enemy mediums
you now likely possess the side with greater positions to either hold or attack from
you now have a numbers advanatge
your mediums give your team a HP and DPM advantage which allow you to win more easilly
"Use a heavy tank for a med side is XD" - amazing quote from imbadatthegame2045

[violet timber]

Generally going med side in a heavy is the best way to go

[errant oak]

I use heaviums on med side, but i dont like use heavies for that

[tulip steppe]

make sure your first position is a good one because it will take forever to relocate, have to be good at wiggling and knowing its angles, half its positives is blocking dmg

[lyric copper]

52% career with almost 0 improvement 30D

"eurm you shouldnt support the class and flank that decides most games achckshually!!!"

[coarse blade]

Fammer

[rigid rover]

what heavies are good rn
t10 tech trees

[solid gate]

Maus, IS-7, E-100 are three that come to mind.

[rigid rover]

what about new chinese or italian heavies

[lyric copper]

old news

[rigid rover]

like if it was a year or 2 ago i would agree but

[solid gate]

Never used them.

[valid gale]

Rhino

[rigid rover]

oh

[solid gate]

Should I grind E50M or leopard 1?

[hollow oriole]

leo

[solid gate]

Idk if I suck or the leopard (tier 5) sucks

[hollow oriole]

maybe both wanna platoon and find out?

[solid gate]

Maybe later. It's rly late for me and I don't feel like doing anything that requires much energy

[hollow oriole]

alr

[solid gate]

After the leopard, is there a reason I could get the light tank? Cuz if I go with the medium tank after leopard then I can get E 100, E50 M, and leopard 1

[errant oak]

Leo 1 requieres skill

[solid gate]

Ik that but do you think the E50 M is good too or should i focus on getting the leopard 1?

[errant oak]

E 50 M is good too, armor and funny rammer

[blissful cave]

Oh yeah forgot to mention yesterday but for D Day anniversary tank of the day was DD Sherman

[safe acorn]

probably the most riskiest gamble of the Sherman's life

[valid gale]

A lot of the amphibious ones didn’t make it to shore

[solid gate]

Why?

[valid gale]

They were dropped in too steep waters where they became stuck they also were attached with propellers on some and the net failed on others

[wary summit]

They sinked

[valid gale]

It’s why there’s an entire landing craft for Bradly and abrams now

[nocturne mirage]

No rough weather sank them, and direct hits of the naval guns and paks the germans had dealt with them

[valid gale]

No that was for the ones that did make it to shore

[nocturne mirage]

The time of the landings were not favourable and shermans and men even in the landing crafts, drowned

It was also morning, rather early too, I think 6 o clock was the time of the onslaught or arrival, but shortly after that was it, it was go time

[nocturne mirage]

all the beaches and what happened to duplex drive and deep waders

[pliant plaza]

tbh depends on skill and what you'd like in a tank. For example the leopard requires lots of skill to play but if you really want to have dpm and speed it is the better choice. E 50 M is basically a heavium so it'll bounce alot (ppl say turret is weak but that's not true). E 50 M is waayyy slower tho, still decent speed tho. The E 50 M does have a little less HP compared to most mediums though. But it is the only medium that you can really sidescrape with (sa ved me lots of times).

[nocturne mirage]

but ye there were also deep wadding tanks too

here is Utah as well

[turbid peak]

yo guys W/L?

[nocturne mirage]

And here is the battle analyses

[wary summit]

Generally meh + 500 gold more expensive than usual

[trail laurel]

L

[foggy cloud]

Garbage

[severe night]

L unless your winrate is above 60% with high avg dpg

You can sell the type 59 and get yourself a lorraine for 5250 gold if you are a good player

[glad goblet]

Please tell me the codes for silver

[nocturne mirage]

usually you go mine for silver, But to find an undiscovered mine is tricky, possible at least. If you want to mine in an existing mine, then goodluck, it may or may not go wrong

[white lake]

minecraft

[nocturne mirage]

🤣 if only it were that easy

[fiery oasis]

i want buy fiat

[dreamy flame]

T57 heavy is good for beginners?

[dapper spire]

Type 5 Ka-Ri is here and it is by my opinion OP tank, I could not pen it even with prime ammo which has pen of 283

[dapper spire]

not laying pal could not pen it with KV-5 with it's premium ammo, but it was realistic mode so maybe it had to do something with it, Ka-Ri was best in enemy team with 3 500 dmg

[grave prawn]

Huff WG not give me any VK.90 only get this tank from Awsome draw

[dreamy flame]

?

[slow valley]

the past vehicles that are in crates have been fairly balanced so far, none of them are blatantly OP, at most they just have gimmicks

FV1066 Senlac is inferior to the FV301

Obj. 590 has horrible AP pen and good premium HEAT

Ka-Ri just hits harder than Ho-Ri T1

[wooden loom]

Lorraine is my most-played tier 8, absolutely love it

[dreamy flame]

T57 or M 6 yoh

[lyric copper]

no

[severe night]

M6

[robust orchid]

Casemate Tank Destroyer with Angled Armor
Can't penetrate it
Omg it OP tank

Maybe you know, your KV-5's shot somehow hit the red areas?

[hybrid kraken]

minotaro: allow me to introduce myself

[glacial plume]

Should I get the chieftain?

[slender delta]

Eeeeh, is funny but risky, T57 H. need support from other tanks cuz take in mind it have 23 secs reload time.
Btw that was the first Tier X tank I unlocked lol

[glacial plume]

Super slow heavily reliant on teammates

[hybrid kraken]

it has troll armor though, cuz i bounced a jag heat shell cuz he hit my auto bounce part of my turret

[hybrid kraken]

quick dump timebut slow reload

[hybrid kraken]

i think u either hit its angled upper plate or the mantlet, kv5 prammo is still 250 mm (running rammer) not alot but still high pen

[robust orchid]

.....that's what I said 🗿

But like OP said, they were probably running Calibrated shells because of 283mm

[violet timber]

Ka-Ri can definitely be penetrated by KV-5 prammo lmao

[dapper spire]

I could not pen it, I am playing on color blind mode and for me it is difficult to play at all because of disability and the fight was frontally

[bitter oar]

Funnily enough I keep getting pen by everything in it

[dapper spire]

I shot it 3 or 4 times and could not pen it

[dapper spire]

I don't play KV-5 because I am not good in it, but it was birthday of it x5 times everything, with Emil 1 it would be all other ball maybe

[violet timber]

You shouldn’t be struggling with prammo when standard has no issues going through

[dapper spire]

I know that is why I am surprised that none of shoot gone through

[bitter oar]

Where did you aim

[dapper spire]

lower

KV-5 tank is not for me, it is just that

[hazy fog]

That’s cool I enjoy French culture

[sonic briar]

I don't know why

[zenith shadow]

That armor is bad expected something like jagtiger good frontal armor but lower plate as weakspot

[valid gale]

This is flat ground and the KV5s turret is uniquely tall giving it an advantage looking down on the angled plate

[solid gate]

How hard is the Jg Pz E 100 compared to other tank destroyers?

[unreal bluff]

quite hard. the armour is very thick.

[solid gate]

Can anyone teach me how to play medium tanks because I am not able to position it correctly please also see my win rate and give me some tips for improving and also how to deal more damage many people will say to survive but even after doing that also I am having a average of 1100-1500 damage at tier 9 🙁

I am just lucky that teammates are able to carry the games I am not doing damage if doing than very less

[dapper whale]

type 5 ka to with 105mm gun as tier 7 or tier 8 japanese premium tank destroyer when

[unreal bluff]

get out.

[dapper whale]

no u

[analog girder]

Austrian Kürrasier tier 8 prem when. It would actually be a cool addition. 105mm autoreloader.

plus there are no other Austrian tanks in the game

[wary summit]

They should have introduced this one during the Arnold Schwarzenegger collab considering he did served in one

Although it would probably be more suited in tier 9

[analog girder]

Yeah

[slow flower]

Love the armour

[mental forge]

What’s called website?

[slow flower]

Blitz kit

[blissful cave]

#blitz-memes message (replying outside of meme channel because no messages) I could probably get 2K free xp from a black box and have zero idea how rare it is because it’s not even that much free xp I’d just be like ok whatever

.
Also anybody know if Ka-Ri is real? I looked a little and am pretty sure it’s fake

[wary summit]

Probably just another liberty design from WG of a Japanese Jagdtiger

[unreal bluff]

why do y'all want more prems instead of tech tree tanks

[solid gate]

I was asking Abt German MTs and LTs earlier but I have now switched to Soviet supremacy

[analog girder]

How many Austrian tanks can you name to make a branch in the European tech tree

[unreal bluff]

the tank you've shown isn't in the game either, so what's your point?

war thunder has hungarian tanks in the german tree so I see no issue slapping an austrian one into the german tree

[blissful cave]

They really don’t do anything with EU tech tree for having an entire category that’s isn’t “Europe” we could easily get so many one off premiums for countries that don’t have enough tanks for a tech tree

[unreal bluff]

and my point is that the game has way too many prems already

[blissful cave]

But instead they only use it to just make a bunch of fake Italian Polish and Czech tanks

[unreal bluff]

it would make sense to have something for the f2p players aswell, however improbable WG actually adding them might be

tech tree tanks don't need to end at tier 10

[blissful cave]

Like after adding the one possible Czech Italian and polish lines they could’ve tried to do other countries but instead just make up tanks for those same ones

[unreal bluff]

just like the old german pc tree with jagdpanther 2 and ferdinand being next to eachother, we could put the Kürrasier next to the indien or smn

[blissful cave]

We could get Finnish BT-42 as a one off premium,that one Austrian tank,Norwegian Chaffee TD,spanish Verdeja,Romanian marseal there’s so many random countries we could get but don’t have enough tanks to be their own line so premiums under EU makes sense

[unreal bluff]

also hungarian turan, magyarország my beloved

[blissful cave]

Yees Hungarian tanks too

[analog girder]

Zyrini II

[unreal bluff]

tbh it would make sense to just ditch the eu tree and split the tanks between allies and axis

delete shitvp below tier 9 and add a bunch of other, more sensible tanks

[violet timber]

???

[unreal bluff]

also, Panther WT 15, it was a prototype(?), or just a sketch of a waffenträger based on the Panther like the Skorpion, except with a 15cm.
it most likely never existed in the first place, but blitz has warhammer 40k stuff so why not

[wary summit]

Because there's literally the Grille 15 for that

[unreal bluff]

that's not on the panther chassis

[wary summit]

It is on a Panther chassis

[unreal bluff]

either way it's very different from the skorp

it's slow, has a comically long gun and is tier 10

[thorny smelt]

There's a good article about Waffenträger Panthers which includes the ones we know like Grille 15, Waffentrager 12.8 cm Skorpion mit Panther Bauteilen (Skorpion G), and 12,8 cm and 15 cm sFH 43 Selbstfahrlafette Rheinmetall-Borsig (Rhm-B Waffentrager).

[blissful cave]

Today’s tank of the day will be the Elefant/Ferdinand

[safe acorn]

I wonder what a 50mm autocannon can do
Knowing how strong the CV9040s 40mm Bofors was

[tulip steppe]

i thought the ferdi famously had no machine gun, didn't they have to use the angled barrel of a assault rifle

[blissful cave]

TOD post will be elefant and Ferdinand since they’re almost the same thing
I will mention the difference tho

[valid gale]

It worked or was meant to work better the bent barrel creates a shotgun effect

[tulip steppe]

although they came up,with it one battle too late 😂 and good thing 🙂

[turbid crescent]

Is-6 booster Right now it's not worth the 20k coins, it won't save you a game to compare it to the t77

[violet timber]

IS-6 booster?

[obsidian silo]

Is the object 452 worth it?

[tulip steppe]

i like it but would place it third behind 752 and k91 for t9 soviet heavies

[lyric copper]

its behind the IS-8

[frail dagger]

plus its on par with the IS8 and probably worse then the ST-1 in its current state

[violet timber]

It’s better than the ST-1

[frail dagger]

752 is on par with the IS4, 777 and IS7, K-91 is probably the best soviet “Tier 9” the IS-8 is the better heavium and the ST-1 is the better heavy, and the Obj.452 is a solid heavy for T9 and is certainly unique but not worth it at that cost

[violet timber]

In terms of tier 9 Soviet heavies, I’d put them on the order of 752>IS-8>K-91>452>>>ST-1

[frail dagger]

Nah nah, when not stock the ST-1 is better then the IS-4, its got a great turret and a pretty good hull, , if say 752>K91>ST-1/IS-8>452,
Its turret may be strong frontally but its hull is horrendous, and the sides of it are like a barn and easily penned (the 452)

[violet timber]

Even maxed ST-1 is worse than IS-4 lmao, it’s still a terrible tank that hasn’t been touched in years except for the addition of ssb which really didn’t help it much

[frail dagger]

nah its in a pretty decent state right now, on par with the IS-8

[violet timber]

Not even close, IS-8 has a way better gun and way better mobility, and it even has some armor at this point. ST-1 has a decent hull but its turret isn’t great, its gun is trash, and its speed still sucks even with ssb

[lyric copper]

the turret gets clowned on when someone loads gold

its okay since it gets to fight tier 8s, which would be cool if you realise all tier 9s do that

[violet timber]

ST-1 is just such a sad tank right now

[lyric copper]

i mean the entire line is kinda sad

the KV-3 gets clowned on by the top tier 7 HTs
the KV-4 is an absolute joke when the VK100 exists
the ST-1 gets clowned on constantly
the IS-4 is the only outlier, however it needs a finer understanding of the game to appreciate

[thorny smelt]

I miss the old IS-4

[violet timber]

KV-4 is actually kinda funny right now just due to it having a surprisingly good gun, with Cali it feels more like a TD

245 standard pen with 303 APCR prammo is pretty funny at tier 8

[tulip steppe]

lol i played so many kv3 battles years ago when it was up against weak german and british heavies, it was king

[violet timber]

I just want them to give IS-4 like 3.2k dpm for no reason

[lyric copper]

let him cook

[violet timber]

I know the tank my be slightly (extremely) strong, but hear me out, it would be really funny

You know what, just give it like .6-.7 off the base reload, but also 20 more alpha because I feel like it

[tulip steppe]

the thing i like most about 452 if you can find the spot

[frigid escarp]

As a newbie which should I take
KV-1 or t34?

[violet timber]

KV-1

[frigid escarp]

Ok

[smoky arrow]

i am pretty sure it is cause it is a churchill gun carrier

[unreal bluff]

maybe. where is it?

[dreamy flame]

M6yoh or t57?

[violet timber]

Probably yoh rn

[dreamy flame]

Thx raven

[thorny smelt]

It's from Tank Encyclopedia https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/nazi_germany/waffentrager-panthers

[tepid lily]

GW Panther

[ruby crater]

What is the best chinese tank?

[wary summit]

113-gft

[safe acorn]

Ngl I think the peak of Russian engineering of a respective era

Always comes in threes

[wary summit]

Russian tank design peaked with the T-80

Shame they threw it under the bus after Chechnya

[valid gale]

develop black eagle
develop 292
never think of combining the two
bank everything on T90 being the future platform
Mfw

[wary summit]

Future platform
A cow from the 70's
Masterful gambit

[valid gale]

t90M
filthy western bustle loader to load new longer shel
carousel for the lolz

[safe acorn]

292 was a testbed for the 152mm tho

Obj 195 is the one you're looking for

[wary summit]

It's like watching a frog jump perfectly before hitting face first to the ground

[valid gale]

They were very very close to saying screw it and think of simply maturing the concept to further use the older hulls
Obj 195 was a lil older but it was the last Soviet super tank gamble
Even black eagle predates it

[safe acorn]

Americans not wanting a new Abrams successor

Solely to just keep Detroit as a hellscape

If anything I think Germany nailed the "I use the same old chassis for the past 40 years and it shall last another thousand"

[valid gale]

This is just incompetency

[pine mist]

Is kranvagn good?

[valid gale]

Super abrams still does not exist as there’s yet to be a prototype that combines all of the block 3 technology into one

Abrams X only touches 2 at best

[safe acorn]

France otw to do absolutely nothing towards their armoured development unless they have someone to work with

[valid gale]

Also why did they just not use burlak??? Lmao

[safe acorn]

Russian oligarchs say no
That and they could do better if they just improved the overall hull armor

[valid gale]

The flaw of T90M and by extension T80-T72 is that the carousel rack no matter how well protected the hull is will always explode or burn down upon penetration

Burlak and T90M were supposed to fix this by having the bustle rack but T90M keeps the carousel for “reasons”

[safe acorn]

Eh probably better
Knowing how they want to implement the Vakuum-1 round into as much vehicles as possible

Would be hilarious to see that bustle rack increasing in length like it's a Super Saiyan or smth

[tulip steppe]

abrams X is just going to test new tech, theres no reason to produce a new mbt, im sure they learned their lesson after the f22

[valid gale]

T90M can’t fire vacuum 1 tho it doesn’t have the armata gun

[safe acorn]

There's no limiting factor for it to not be installed on it tho

[valid gale]

F35 is different entirely and abrams has been in need of an upgrade for sometime now

[valid gale]

It’s not turret room that won’t allow it the gun isn’t strong enough to handle it

[safe acorn]

They did a couple of tests on it though in 2006 (or so Topwar says)
The T-90 handled just fine, cost of it however is something else

[tulip steppe]

no i said f22 , there's no need for it. its too advanced thats why they started the f35.:abram x isn't needed for production so theyll use prototypes to advance their tech forma future version when its actually needed

[valid gale]

F22 was more expensive but F35 is said to handle better by pilots that flew both. Abrams X is just a tech demonstrator but it showcases 2 things the abrams was pursuing in upgrades for 2 decades now that matured

[safe acorn]

In any case, the Americans would eventually come up with a definitive replacement for the Abrams (quite likely within the next decade) and F-22 would have some sort of replacement planned for it then

Especially how everyone now wants to create their own Future Fighter programmes

[valid gale]

It’s also debatable if F35 was a good step anyways it’s mostly to give it to other NATO partners but F22 was still ridiculously ahead of everyone else the destruction of its tooling is considered a dumb move

[safe acorn]

Would hope at least one F-22 receives the Cybertronian paint scheme for funnies

[tulip steppe]

thats the failure of the f22 program, its the most advanced system right now, but you cant export it and it costs too much to maintain and produce

[valid gale]

Which wasn’t a failure was another screw up on the US’s end

[safe acorn]

For simplicity's sake,
F-22 is too good, for its own good

[valid gale]

X is gonna get more attention most likely
If not M1A3 will be a thing sporting the gun

[safe acorn]

On an unrelated note, how many movies DID feature the F-22?

When you think about it,
Has the past decade only featured F-35s in films?

[tulip steppe]

isn't everything on the f22 still classified where as the f35 is meant for export, misewell market it : )

[safe acorn]

Think the F-22 died with the first 3 Transformers movies

[ashen crown]

Yeah

[wary summit]

F-22 was too kino for its time

[whole mist]

Whats the best heavy and medium for good players at Tier X?

[foggy cloud]

Leo 1, 30b, 140 and carro are dang good if u know how to use them, also 50b and e6 should be considered as medium tanks

[whole mist]

@halcyon lotus How can i get the cheftain?

[whole mist]

@halcyon lotus and the best f2p heavy and medium in tech tree?

[foggy cloud]

Leo 1 140 and 50b are the best tree meds

[white lake]

STB?

50b best Heavy now..? I think I might be missing some stuff, ik it got buffed but to that degree?

[foggy cloud]

50b is a medium tank

[white lake]

no.. it doesnt classify as a medium and its not necessarily a heavium either

[foggy cloud]

Its a medium literally light tank level armor

[white lake]

Would you play it as a medium is the question

[foggy cloud]

Everyone does it

[white lake]

From what I've seen it's moreso a midline damage support which isn't necessarily a Medium thing, though heavium definitions are loose so it could fit as that in other peoples definitions

[foggy cloud]

It has no armor so it cant even be a heavium

[white lake]

I haven't really played it myself so I'm less than qualified to talk about it sorry, but I assume it is moreso a T57 that trades armor for mobility to help in flanks (also seemed to get some silly consumable buffs too)

I'm mainly stating from what I've heard about it, how I've seen it used by people in matches, how it's used in informative Youtube videos and just general comments from it by the community

[white lake]

I mainly decide heaviums if they have mobility akin to that of mediums and roles similar to that of mediums to the point they can essentially act as a bloated medium, something like the Chieftain Mk6 and IS-7 were good examples of that but IS-7 seems to have been slowly turned into a more traditional Heavy

[foggy cloud]

Well every heavium has sum armor 50b has none

[violet timber]

F-35 is more advanced than the F-22…

[foggy cloud]

Wait what

[violet timber]

The F-35 is more advanced than the F-22 lmao. It’s capabilities far surpass what the F-22 can do

The F-22 is the best air to air platform in the world, but the mission scope of the F-35 is way broader. F-22 is essentially relegated to only air to air combat while the F-35 is able to perform almost every single mission set in the Air Force

[safe acorn]

Basically comparing the best Air Superiority fighter Vs the best Multirole Fighter

That and the F-35 has a practically limitless range, or as limitless as the carrier fleet arm makes it

[wary summit]

Return of the "should-haves"

[blissful cave]

Super Panzer IV

[tropic ermine]

why 907

[safe cedar]

Unreal levels of cope.

[blissful cave]

53TP was unreal levels of cope it’s hilarious

[safe cedar]

Fr

[blissful cave]

Poland designing a tank equivalent to late WW2 stuff at a time that KV-1 was barely started

[safe cedar]

"But but we made a light tank"

[blissful cave]

Poland having the worlds best tank in 1938 with armor and a gun that would be as good as IS-2

[safe cedar]

They should have just outright made a polish modified IS-2

[blissful cave]

“Germany would’ve won if they had more time and the Maus entered service”

“And if they produced more heavy tanks like the E series”

T30:

[wary summit]

USAF and RAF would have a field month

[blissful cave]

Girls und panzer tanks can’t be used in realistic but a fake tank with a neon space camo can because that makes sense

[safe cedar]

Omega cope

Honestly the only vehicle that Germany could have produced that wouldn't have screwed them over was the AMX m4

[icy wadi]

eh

[blissful cave]

What?

[safe cedar]

most of the major issues with panther were fixed

[solid gate]

I am doing my best but then also why I am losing and also people giving dislike even I have the most damage

[ivory shell]

What're people's thoughts on the Ka-Ri so far?

[hard mauve]

I think stb 1 already needs a good military camouflage

[violet timber]

Just watch tournament streams

[lyric copper]

kid named allied air superiority

[blissful cave]

T-55 needs PBR so bad
T-54 got it and they’re nearly the same thing so why not

And looks SO nice in the draw image but then when I look at mine it’s like oh :/

Also this image goes so hard if anyone completes this draw and gets the full image please send it to me 🙏🏻

[white lake]

Kid named resources:
Kid named uselessness:
Kid named extreme maintenence making it an even bigger target:

Wow the E-100 would've been a better alternative to the Maus!!! (literally the exact same problems

[lyric copper]

see its funny because the applique armour applied to later Pz. IVs also gave it severe suspension issues

[blissful cave]

When you complete all pulls of a draw it removes the board and makes an absolute banger wallpaper like when I got object 777 (still sucks that you usually never get the tank until the very last pull)

[white lake]

That same dude... standing with the same pose... always...

I feel like we're being stalked

[blissful cave]

He’s a liar a schemer and a rat don’t trust him

[blissful cave]

I mean, the first ever draw was M-IV-Yoh stalker

[white lake]

I honestly wouldn't rule that out you're probably right about him

[blissful cave]

But yeah if anybody goes for T-55 please send me the wallpaper for it id appreciate it so much

[valid gale]

Pz 4 G was already maxing the limits
The turret couldn’t be changed anymore and this limited traverse severely and strained it

[nocturne mirage]

guys ask me literally anything on the jagdpanther, anything you can think of, so too the T-34 early series with or without the Gayka. Finally bought a book on it and the T-34 early series and loving it

literally reading there were so far 2 variants of the jagdpanther WHAAT

designated Ausf. G2

Apperantly a bloody jagdpanther II was in the works, wanting to fit a 12.8cm Pak 80 L/55 gun lol, but wasnt realized till war's end

[violet timber]

Yup, G1 built on the A chassis and G2 built on the G chassis

[nocturne mirage]

These books have so much info, you will leak, reading on the SU-100 now

here is a comparison between the jagdpanther and SU-100, very interesting indeed. Nothing or nearly nothing missed, goregeously detailed as always

[paper wraith]

What's the thing with the supposed hybrid nation tech tree on Russia servers

[nocturne mirage]

detailed view of the the Jagdpanther's fighting compartment

and SU-100 fighting compartment, this stuff is so good

[shadow fable]

M113

[violet timber]

Command variant

[shadow fable]

Thank you everyone I’ve ask said camper 💀

[nocturne mirage]

ammunition of the SU-100 left and Jagdtiger right

[violet timber]

Nah, it’s the M577 mobile command post

[visual badge]

should i sell the strv 81 certificates or use it to get the tank?

[nocturne mirage]

read last part, some freaking interesting stuff, had no clue till now, clever soviets

[valid gale]

That is a ridiculous amount of ammo for crew weapons

[nocturne mirage]

aye, ambushes and being stuck for repairing was a thing you know, 20 drum mags is good, if one fails surely the other works

45 tons...flipped over by a bomb, aerial bombardment, but still....heesh

like bruh the info is staggering, mind you this is hush hush secret soviets we are talking about. So interesting and so detailed out, love it

🤯 mind blown I tell you

doesnt even stick to the tanks, gives briefings on the strenghts and desires of both sides at a time interval like this for example

[deep lotus]

How good is the Chimera?

[nocturne mirage]

by chance, is this medal in wotb, I would think it is, but obviously missing the Swastika

[lyric copper]

no

[nocturne mirage]

k thanks

Is this in wotb?

Freaking amount of info is insane, with info like this you are practically told how to keep these vehicles lol

<@&481447501690568709> 👆 the guy up

[nocturne mirage]

Jagdpanther's gun sight and SU-100 gun sight. I tell you this is so good, still the same book lol

[nocturne mirage]

Man the soviets were behemoths with armor come war's end, soviet guards tank brigades and regiments in red and the Germans, armee, tank korps and divisions in blue...annihilated

gun performance in penetration by both vehicles. An idea if you will, still my word, the Gun of the jagdpanther, very scary

[nocturne mirage]

done, what an interesting read.

[solid gate]

I think I kinda like the challenger.

[blissful cave]

So I want to make a model of M48 Patton but I’m thinking about if I should get one of my usual 3D print ones or get this easy model kit I found (would be painted ofc)

https://i5.walmartimages.com/seo/1-35-M48A2-Patton-Tank-w-Crew_56694b22-dec0-47f6-a91b-0578fd098125.0db26ad9c605118e54a2cb1934c4b306.jpeg?odnHeight=768&odnWidth=768&odnBg=FFFFFF

[tired yew]

this one better

[blissful cave]

It’s a small random detail but I like the big bulky box light some pattons have but the model kit would look much smoother

Also either way I’d paint it the same so ignore that the 3D print is blank and the model is a finished sample

[tired yew]

i know i say the details

[blissful cave]

But i guess the model would come with decals which is nice

[tired yew]

with more details looks good

[blissful cave]

Also speaking of model tanks I just ordered a T-55 (not 3D printed) can’t wait to make that I’ve been thinking about that one for a while I’ll make it a Finnish one

[tired yew]

like lego?

[errant oak]

M48 my fav tank

[blissful cave]

This one I found on Amazon they have an already painted version and a blank one I want to paint it myself so I got blank

[blissful cave]

Yooo nice I love M48 Patton it was my first line in the game
I didn’t know what M48 was when I started the game it I just wanted to get the Sherman and just continued the line

I did get to see one irl before I got to it tho and the M60 was the first tank I ever got to see irl so M48 Patton is one of my favorites too

[tired yew]

hey it looks very good

good money waste💵💵🤑

[real gulch]

I just noticed the back of the Ferdinand's hitbox is smaller than the model

[tired yew]

The German Army run factories in Czechoslovakia could produce Jagdpanzer 38(t) Hetzer chassis faster than they could produce the main 75 mm (2.95 in) gun. There were stocks of old 15 cm (5.9 in) s.I.G 33/2 heavy field howitzer guns available to be mounted in those chassis. Troops on the Eastern Front always needed more heavy artillery support. Fixing a 15 cm gun onto an already built Jagdpanzer 38(t) chassis seemed a very sensible idea. For this prototype, a Bergepanzerwagen 38(t) was used.

[blissful cave]

So my full list of model tanks I’m gonna make is
-T-55
-M48 Patton
-KV-5
-Chrysler K
-and BT-42 for a friend
-and now I know how I’ll paint that T30 that’s been in progress for months that i occasionally work on (I got a hard model kit,never again)

[tired yew]

bt 42 is mega mind

[errant oak]

i wanted tiger 1 and 2, Jumbo and Easy 8

[deep lotus]

Random fact but the M60 is the first tank I ever saw irl as well and I see it daily

[blissful cave]

I wanted jumbo too…I still want it they haven’t made it available in the over 2 years I’ve been playing 🙃

[deep lotus]

It's a M60A3, and it's in a park in my hometown

Thats better

[errant oak]

the only tank that i can see IRL is TAM and variations, Sherman and AMX 13 90 or 105 idk wich one

[tired yew]

where do you live? in argentina

[deep lotus]

Live by a museum or smt?

[errant oak]

Argentina

[tired yew]

.

[errant oak]

we cant speak spanish here

[tired yew]

sorry

[tired yew]

i cant see it im like 2km away of campo de mayo

[blissful cave]

Some of first tanks I went for were Sherman,T-34-85,KV-2,Chaffee and panzer IV literally the classics lmao
Not tiger at first because I got Tiger 131

Tiger II was one of the first “high tier” tank I went for after I got far enough to start going for tier 8’s outside of the main line I was grinding

[blissful cave]

But vickers Mk F was my first tank before all of that because I saw Finland as one of the flags in the EU demo screen when you choose your first tank and got excited but then found out it’s the only Finnish tank there there’s no BT-42 or tech tree,nothing

[deep lotus]

Bruh, the Chinese guns really suck, I managed to hit the one part of a Chaffee I couldn't pen, A CHAFFEE!?!?

I think it was the WZ-131 FT I was using?

[rotund gull]

new tier 5 prem TD

[blissful cave]

Hopefully marked as czech we lack a lot of real tanks in that category (there’s more fakes than real even)

But German makes sense since they made the tank they just built them in Czechoslovakian factories

[blissful cave]

The draw background

[safe cedar]

Secrets??? The soviets were literally giving away T-34s, even to the west.

[nocturne mirage]

the soviets when it comes to their archives are far more hush hush, thats what I meant and there is no denying it

[safe cedar]

that must be why it is so easy to get russian documents.

[nocturne mirage]

listen my authors even state that new research is accessible nowadays compared to the past, think what you want

[safe cedar]

And...?

[nocturne mirage]

and? Aight not going to continue, you clearly dont know

[safe cedar]

I dont know where you get these ridiculous notions from, no.

[tall lichen]

Is the kpz70 a collectors tank now.

[nocturne mirage]

Mate these are facts, compared to other people, the soviets were more hush hush, literally the book's pages I posted from, those are when the book came out in 2014, the info provided not public published documents and info, so please continue thinking what you like the fact is the soviets in particular were hush hush

[safe cedar]

and you dont realize thats standard practice?

[blissful cave]

Yes every tier 9 and 10 is a collector

[nocturne mirage]

other nations not as much, the soviets in particular keep to themselves, it is what it is

[tall lichen]

Noooooo ):

[safe cedar]

The last french documents werent publicly available until 2018, and they are only beginning to open the late 60s archives.

[nocturne mirage]

So what, you go to france now, as if it means anything lol, soviet documents and info in general is far more difficult to come by in the sense of western allowed access, so to give you the proof of that, fine tired of this here it comes

[tall lichen]

Are we gonna have some leaked documents here soon.

[safe cedar]

"Western" lol, you are coping so hard

[violet timber]

Soviet info is generally not as secret as most people think due to massive amounts of espionage during the Cold War

[blissful cave]

What I have noticed about the collector update is it makes tanks in the shop more expensive which sucks but this ONLY applies to buying the tank by itself no bundle no camo nothing
Type 59 is literally sold in a 5.5K gold bundle with the camo and extras…by itself it’s 7.5K in the shop for some reason (the 5.5K offer still exists)

[safe cedar]

Theres a reason why soviet vehicles in early WOT were significantly more accurate than other nations vehiclesn

[wary summit]

leaked documents
Relics of the 60's

[tall lichen]

Ty

[safe cedar]

Genius level marketing.

[blissful cave]

This doesn’t apply to bundles tho because type 59 and Lorraine 40 are 7.5K each but both in a bundle with camos is 9k
Also funky fact if you want Lorraine you can get the bundle and sell type 59 and it’d be cheaper than Lorraine by itself no camo no extras

[nocturne mirage]

i want you to read these sources for my book, I want you to see how many if not all when it comes to the soviet tank, how many are soviet authors, why you think that is lol? You stop the cap lol. If they want people to know something, its their people

[safe cedar]

Most remaining classified documents are about people rather than actual designs or anything.

[tall lichen]

It’s wargaming. They’ll make up the craziest not even drawn on paper designs and release them unto the game as either German or Russian vehicles.

[nocturne mirage]

You are wrong, I win, read top. If you still argue then you cant be saved 🤣

[blissful cave]

Yea Soviet category has no reason to have fake tanks with the amount of objects that exist

[safe cedar]

Its almost like... people tend to be interested in their own history... especially in extremely nationalistic nations... funny.

[nocturne mirage]

No mate, its not that way, but continue thinking so, on many of these books, when it comes to soviet based anyhing, in the majority, my authors state thanks to later years and things becoming more calm and open, the Archives of the russians are being opened far more, and info accessed

[violet timber]

I LOVE THE ABRAMS

[blissful cave]

Poland making up fakes purely because they didn’t have much of their own tanks and want to be represented in wot

[violet timber]

RAAAAA WHAT IS A KILOMETER 🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[safe cedar]

Oh well, I guess its by sheer coincidence that most historians on American history are shockingly... American...

[nocturne mirage]

Oh please, contunue thinking what you like at this point, gave the proof and no lol go see how many people outside america speak american based tanks or whatever, there are a ton, its not as hush hush, but hey you wont get that

[safe cedar]

You posted proof, but unfortunately you posted proof that proved my point.

[tall lichen]

Wish they’d update it.

[nocturne mirage]

its not proving your point, its proving mine, jesus christ mate, stop the ego to be right, you are wrong, accept it pls

[safe cedar]

Its okay, "you wont get that."

[nocturne mirage]

Bye 🤣 👋

[safe cedar]

the unit by which miles are defined

[tall lichen]

What are you guys arguing so heatedly about on a children’s tank game.

[safe acorn]

There's no law saying we can't

[tall lichen]

I just wanna know what we’re arguing so passionately about here on it. It shows that the participants truly care about the subject

[safe acorn]

Youve been on here longer than I have in this conversation
I JUST WOKE UP

[safe cedar]

He's just malding over "Rahhh soviet ultra seekret, west weak free" nonsense.

[violet timber]

Nothing was secret during the Cold War

[safe acorn]

Uh..
Soviet documents aren't secret? At the most hard to come by because the Russians government is a pain in the a-

But still

[safe cedar]

Not even Lyndon B Johnsons nickname for his, erm... johnson...

[violet timber]

Some things… some things should have stayed secret

[coarse blade]

LeBron james forgot to send 100 promised t-72s

[tall lichen]

That and his alleged infantry charge without arty support how many scandals does a man go through

[safe acorn]

Bill Clinton never got the memo on that

[valid gale]

There was an infamous super spy during the CW who was unfortunately caught was high ranking in one of the design bureaus he leaked missile guidance , radars even APS systems and some of the T72 and T80 variants

[valid gale]

Obj 195 was literally stored in a barn for years I wish I was kidding

[coarse blade]

wish granted

[safe cedar]

I would give good money for an M728 named "Jumbo Johnson"

[safe acorn]

Is man Optimus from Age of Extinction?
Hiding from the government so it doesn't get scrapped

[tall lichen]

I swear soviet era tanks are an unending gold mine for these types of games. That and late-war Germany.

[safe acorn]

Well yeah

I mean Obj and VK are literally magnets of fake vehicles because you can attach any number to them (same goes for BZ now)

[safe cedar]

Most objs are real tho

[tall lichen]

Well yeah everything’s technically an object.

[safe acorn]

It's WG doesn't matter
Throw in a random number in a bingo lottery and you'll have a tank in no time

[violet timber]

I want the object 69

[safe cedar]

That would just be a Wargaming dev tho?

[violet timber]

Obj 69 when WG

[tall lichen]

They should just add (more) variants to the game,

[safe acorn]

If WG could do a PvE mode with a single boss at the end

Including collabs, what would you like to fight against?

[violet timber]

Some fake German super heavy, like a mini Ratte or something

[safe acorn]

Why not just actually go for the Ratte?

[violet timber]

Too big, I just want like 4 Mauses welded together

[tall lichen]

They’ll do a collab with literally anyone so there could be a mr. Beast boss fight.

[safe acorn]

Metal Gear would sound fun

[tall lichen]

Oh god no then wargaming would actually have share profits

[real gulch]

Miniboss 1:

[tall lichen]

How many years until they add the t-72

[safe acorn]

They did it with TMNT and Dune so why not
Partly Mad Max too

[tall lichen]

Oh, guess I wasn’t there for that.

Only collab I can remember is the weird east European kids singer/pop star by the name of Oliver. Had the ugliest haircut and rode a scooter.

[blissful cave]

Ay guys if I wanted to do todays TOD on T-54 / T-55 do you think they’re different enough to each be their own TOD post (history description) or just combine them

[safe acorn]

Yeah T-54 and T-55 share some good differences

[blissful cave]

Enough to make them separate posts? Without being boring like (oh this little feature was added/removed)

[tall lichen]

Funny how so much development can happen in a year.

[safe acorn]

Well up to you ig
For me I'd do it simply cuz T-55A received new rounds, new stabilisers, better engine, NBC protection etc

[violet timber]

Most likely never

[tall lichen]

I don’t understand why people like that show.

[blissful cave]

It’s so fun

Tank battles with very good animation and action

And emphasis on being more entertaining with stuff tanks normally couldn’t do like drifting but still within some reason

[lyric copper]

mid writing
mid plot
plot armour left and right
a BT-42 can somehow match 3 well coordinated M26s

[violet timber]

I’m more of an Azur lane guy myself

[safe acorn]

Or a Hetzer wedging itself between a Maus without breaking apart

[safe cedar]

I NEED IT

[blissful cave]

Finnish power💪😎🇫🇮

[tall lichen]

Weebs are weird. I’ll never understand y’all.

[lyric copper]

Slow Ahead or Queen’s Orders

call it

[blissful cave]

Yea the plot is not really anything tank battles are the fun part

[safe acorn]

Gate is alright
Would be funnier if they were late 70s Americans tbh

[violet timber]

Personally slow ahead

[lyric copper]

still doesn’t fix the fact the story is a 4/10 at most
mostly ruined due to plot armour

[blissful cave]

Like ohhhh the Maus BT-42 and T95 scenes are just MMM👌🏻 extremely cool

[violet timber]

Sov Rossiya 🙏

[safe cedar]

True, but the physics are incredibly satisfying to watch

[lyric copper]

by physics you mean the total disregard for them

[safe cedar]

And thou shalt go forth and reside in the holy land between the two mountains.

Book of Roma, chapter 2, verse 69

[blissful cave]

Eh I’ll just do T-54 first and then later decide if I should make T-55’s therefore the T-54 post can be the origins of the tank and then T-55 post is what makes it different from T-54

[safe cedar]

Yes

[real gulch]

Play PC then.

[safe cedar]

Never again

[tall lichen]

Is azure lane the game with the xl balloon sized accessories.

[safe cedar]

yes, and it is glorious

[wary summit]

Pre-2021 AL is pure kino

[lyric copper]

depends

[blissful cave]

Todays tank of the day is the T-54

[tall lichen]

Eh, the only good Japanese media is Godzilla nowadays.

[safe cedar]

Dude has a thing for unicorns & french destroyers 💀

[lyric copper]

it’s Chinese

[lyric copper]

I retire every small version of ship

[tall lichen]

Oooh that explains the scummy gacha systems and over-shrekualization

[safe cedar]

@wheat mulch exclusively collects them 💀

[lyric copper]

wrong

the gacha system in AL is often touted as one of the best

and uhhh

The CCP doesn’t exactly condone certain things

[safe cedar]

Azur lane literally exists for the sole point of trolling western tweens.

[lyric copper]

Twitter users whenever anime:

[tall lichen]

Truly.

[safe cedar]

Theres a reason why they named it "X", albeit they forgot the other two.

[lyric copper]

Twitter users in general when something mildly annoys them actually

[violet timber]

I enjoy being mildly annoyed

[tall lichen]

As long as y’all aren’t valorant addicted e-people you’re cool.

[violet timber]

I’m war thunder addicted 🧌

[wary summit]

But muh child soldiers & labourers...

[safe cedar]

I dont even play games, I just troll on discord instead of sleeping to avoid my wife.

[tall lichen]

You and everyone else in this server who owns a PC that can run it.

[lyric copper]

I will never have 100% collection due to trashshire, anchovies and the two irrelevant PR5/6 IB ships

[safe cedar]

I want foch meta ngl

[lyric copper]

grind

[safe cedar]

Why would I do that when money exists?

[tall lichen]

Grinding kills time.

[safe cedar]

I dont have time to kill, I just spent 5 hours riding on horseback.

[tall lichen]

If you ever have time you wanna kill just grind.

[blissful cave]

Funny how T-54 is like THE most basic tank shape like it’s just simple hull and semi circle turret like stereotypical cartoon tank

[safe cedar]

I literally just have my butler grind Azur lane for me because im too lazy to.

[blissful cave]

LMAO

[wary summit]

Kekw PR ships moment

[tall lichen]

You have a BUTLER?!

[safe acorn]

WT made me really hate that thing

[safe cedar]

Yeah...?

[lyric copper]

no genuinely I hate anchovies character

and I hate trashshire for certain reasons

[blissful cave]

most people imagine butlers to be like “mm butler,fetch me a glass of wine”
Foch guy:play this game that’s annoying to grind for me I don’t want to

[tall lichen]

Brotha how rich are you

[safe cedar]

Im just a normal Baron.

[lyric copper]

AL isn’t even a grind anymore

you can basically AFK now

[wary summit]

The fact it's somehow 15gb is pretty disgusting

[lyric copper]

it’s data for loads of past events

[tall lichen]

Then again this is also the internet so it’s like a 25/75 chance it’s bs

[wary summit]

Nah it's for the boo-

[safe acorn]

Needs more polygons

[lyric copper]

you doin a ghost impression?

[safe cedar]

Lol, ok.
But its really nothing special.

Especially if you know where to look

[tall lichen]

Yeah no it’s bs.

[wary summit]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[safe cedar]

Its always funny when silly discordians learn who I am

[west root]

Just got this I just need the paint for it and the glue then I can put it together

[tall lichen]

I’m scared too now.

[safe cedar]

why?

[safe acorn]

Man's really giving neck beard status

[tall lichen]

Cuz if you’re actually a rich European it’ll be embarrassing

[safe cedar]

Oh, I see, I accidentally removed it from my profile

[balmy compass]

They can’t handle the truth

[hollow crag]

should i sell my 50tp prototyp for this?

[balmy compass]

Nah

[safe acorn]

Uh no

[safe cedar]

Absolutely not

[hollow crag]

thats wat i was thinking cuz i love my 50tp prototyp but was just wondering if that would be better

[safe cedar]

Worse in literally every conceivable way.

[blissful cave]

Yooo I want that offer to come back for me kinda sucks they made them into pop ups that appear at random rather than set shop offers that appear in everyone’s game at the same time

[violet timber]

Sure why not

[safe acorn]

In what world did you think that was better

[wary summit]

Nah mate the Pilot's powercrept

Even with the consumables, it's pretty lacking

[balmy compass]

tier lower
medium in tier VIII
American medium in tier VIII
not Pershing (tech tree)

[safe cedar]

seriously

[blissful cave]

But yeah no don’t sell 50TP prot for this

I only want the tank for the neat little history of it I can acknowledge people generally say the tank is really bad

[safe cedar]

If pilot 1 went 55kph & had 30kph reverse speed then I would recommend it ngl

[safe acorn]

If it went 55 front and back with better accuracy than the Pershing id take it

[blissful cave]

Dang how has M6A2E1 EXP not come in the shop for 6 months already (who knows maybe longer I’ve only been paying attention since January since that’s when I wanted the tank and still do)

I did see T95E2 and T25 not long ago in pop ups but I passed on those but now I want em

If I have those then I’ll have every unique US tank in the game aside from 5.5 removed tanks and variants that I don’t need like T34 1776,T28 defender or every BP and AE ofc I mean that’s a lot of exceptions but still every tech tree and almost every premium for US

Yea I noticed I wanted to get the skorpion but I’m like why’s it 8.5K by itself? The tanks been in the game for so long and I’ve seen it for sale for less before

[safe cedar]

I got STG for free 😎 like 3 years ago

[blissful cave]

STG is my least favorite tank in existence I don’t want to get started on that thing (it’s a long story)

[safe cedar]

Dew it, i wish to hear epics of yonder

[olive cypress]

should i get e100

[tepid lily]

Now you got me curious

[ashen crown]

Horrible gun depression

[cunning tundra]

Is the amx cdc good? I got it from a mystery cert. It looks good o paper, but it is weak when i fight it

[ashen crown]

It's just fast

[cunning tundra]

Wait is speed really the only advantage? Istg this tank is basically as big as a vk 90 xD

[errant oak]

680 is fun

[wary summit]

Remember the Hellcat?

You're just that but at tier 8

Europanzer+

[dreamy flame]

Worst tank?

[errant oak]

Japanase meds line

[valid gale]

Leopard 2 with M829A3 would be so peak honestly

[solid gate]

Does the VK 30.01 D just suck or am I playing it wrong?

[wary summit]

You're playing it wrong

[solid gate]

It's gun has good pen but it has bad reload and dmg

[wary summit]

It's standard for tier 6

[safe acorn]

Ain't that equivalent to the DM63 or smth?

[valid gale]

M829A3 is superior because DU shelf sharpens on penetration and is pyrothermic? (Unsure how it’s spelt ) that immediately ignites and creates a vacuum of fire upon entry and spalling

Tungsten has no added properties besides mushrooming on penetration

The DU element itself is also poisonous as soon as it penetrates as another bonus

[safe acorn]

Interesting enough the Americans did try to make their own L/55
Which failed

[valid gale]

They didn’t and rather were successful XM291 which was the older replacement project for the m256 was testing different barrel lengths but from its creation was found to be superior to the existing M256
When they did test L55 on abrams they had trouble working with the electric hydraulics and recoil system on the gun

They couldn’t slim and make their own version of L55 so they went and improved on M829 instead

[safe acorn]

Cool

[valid gale]

It’s pretty funny M829 is a good design property wise all they did for next 2 iterations was just increase the rod length

[safe acorn]

Same with the DM ig

In an alternate universe where DM44-63 is called Pzgr 44-63

[valid gale]

Maxing out its limit however

Same with M829A4

[violet timber]

Hear me out, if a rod penetrator can penetrate its own length, then just make a rod that’s like 6 meters long, nothing will be able to stand up to it

[safe acorn]

Yeah but at that point I'd rather invest in making smaller railguns tbh

[polar lodge]

Bro getting turned into swiss cheese

[safe acorn]

That and the Vakuum-1 is barely 1m long and it needs that much investing into the gun

[safe acorn]

Pretty old tbh

[valid gale]

That’s what losat was

[violet timber]

Oh right lol, I forgot LOSAT exists

[valid gale]

Literally meter long kinetic missile

[violet timber]

“What if we take an ATGM and give it a pointy end”

[valid gale]

Kinetics are fun aren’t they

[safe acorn]

LOSAT's round is that quick it doesn't even need to be guided tbh

Good to know Sweden also tried out kinetic missiles

[valid gale]

It’s hyper sonic but it needs time and speed to build up its energy

They showed it in iron man 2

[safe acorn]

What that stupid hammer missile?

Yeah apparently the LOSAT reaches max range within 4s

So there's really no need to guide it; once it's out, it's out

[valid gale]

They were supposed to let it shoot upwards or at range to build energy instead of point blank

[safe acorn]

It was a dud

Literally if you'd think about it, why would any of Hammer's tech work

[valid gale]

Because the extra joke is it does work and it’s not from hammer he just bought the technology and sells it as his own and they showcased it actually working in the comics

[safe acorn]

Still the LOSAT doesn't necessarily need to be guided since it's that quick at the whole process to get to 5km takes 4s

[valid gale]

Cut ending where it does work https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PNF1b5DdFKI&feature=youtu.be

[safe acorn]

Well it's cut so I won't take it
That and my whole point was about the LOSAT anyways not the Hammer Missile

[fading frost]

I got the 268 is it good how should I play it

[nocturne mirage]

No mate XD, I am not arguing based on western supremacy bull, I am arguing because you just dont know like I do, that specifically when it comes to precious russia, their equipement their past operations, most o that and things concidering that, are far more secret than the United states or heaven forbid, germany, great britian etc lol. You fail to realise like I repeatedly say over and over and will show you again lol, that when it comes to my books and their respectable authors, they constantly exclaim, that when it comes about anything soviet, FINALLY NOW or NOWADAYS IT IS EASIER or JUST RECENTLY new research is brought forward, new info.

Fact is, mr frenchy, is that the soviets in particular, dislike any involvement outside of their own people, and it shows highly, the info you come across is most likely stolen or espionage lol, they only literally allow, how can I put it, big wigs, who are internationally highly regarded to search their most beloved archival documents, like Zaloga, the leading expert from a non soviet on the soviet union and its equipement etc. But like I always say, I showed you my part, time to show me, why what I say is incorrect. Waiting frenchy.

And mind you even here, zaloga has to use actual Russian historians or other researchers for the majority of his findings, with very rare occasions using the russian archives and mostly going to a museum like Stavka

wait there is more lol

[kindred gazelle]

Your comprehension is far better than my comprehension so explain it in Fortnite terminology

[nocturne mirage]

operation bagration, here zaloga is using the majority of his research for this book from russian historians, not even archival, so once again strike, look at all the russian authors specifically

[nocturne mirage]

its over frenchy, I place my facts, time to show yours, show why you say its not as secret with the soviets (to make people happy during the great patriotic war)

[safe acorn]

The thing is
Soviet prototype vehicles is pretty common to find out

All you have to do is to have one tank, and try to imagine a different variant

[nocturne mirage]

its not prototypes tho, its things in general over all, zaloga or others wont say what they say just because, there is info in the books I read, not accessible still to the masses or general public stuff like that

[safe acorn]

Ngl I don't think Soviet documents are THAT hard to find

[nocturne mirage]

ofcourse documents are not hard to find, some documents, sure are easy like others, but in general I am telling you no other nation, gives hickups like the soviets with the authors I read from, they really say many times as you read the book, that finally this or it is still unclear etc with the soviet based things, it is what it is

[safe acorn]

If you want really difficult documents

Ask the Chinese
They still somehow keep the full extent of the WZ-111 heavy tank programme classified

[nocturne mirage]

and guess what? They are also communists are they not? Its a whole mentality, a whole different way of doing things, the point is, the russians are far more hush hush and literally when it comes to things soviet in the books I read I fully expect now to see, "currently it is uknown" or "just recently" or you get the point

It is like this at least since I am ww2 based, with the great patriotic war so far, not sure how much secrets they keep in cold war

[safe acorn]

Communists that do everything they can to despise the Soviet Union

I mean cmon, who wouldn't after bankrupting their future tanks and leaving their carcasses out in the open

[nocturne mirage]

Russkan dude, I said what I did, if you still cant see what I mean, me literally reading these books and seeing what the Authors say over and over, then I dont know, believe frenchy on this

From my side, with ww2 in particular and soviet operations, some equipement some use? its way way more hush hush

[safe acorn]

It's compared to nothing on the Japanese front

[nocturne mirage]

👍 ye

[safe acorn]

Either way for WW2

Soviets don't got the best prototype ideas,
Their only good fighter design came late into the war (I-225)

[nocturne mirage]

I think that monoplane fighter, now that you say I, that what was it called I-2 something like that, was pretty good, they liked it alot, this was very early in the war, operation barba if I recall

[safe acorn]

All I see is a biplane

[nocturne mirage]

naa there is one called the, AAH man its that tiny soviet monoplane fighter, come now, it was really liked a lot for its nimbleness

[safe acorn]

I-16?
Yeah sure I love using those against FW-190s who could dock my a- out of the sky in one burst

[nocturne mirage]

well thats warthunder, in real life they were more capable than you think, but sure the damage received was minimal and it was over sure

[safe acorn]

Not really sure when it barely has any protection for the pilot

[nocturne mirage]

its the nimbleness, the germans did the same fault with the spits, turn fight it, could turn on a dime, jink and roll rate was better than the 109, far less heavy but thats it it took minor damage it was out

[safe acorn]

Yeah ngl War Thunder makes countering planes real easy
Even in simulator battles

[nocturne mirage]

i implore you try DCS when you get the chance XD, its less boring lol or no not boring, wrong terminology, I meant more satisfaction

[safe acorn]

Nah WT gives me that sweet spot
Unlike DCS, you'll see how much research points you get on a kill and it flows like gold

[nocturne mirage]

understood, still it is pretty cool how if you lose coolant, how you must adjust for engine rpm so as not to overheat it, ye sure the death at this point is inevitable, but its super cool seeing it in action and you adjusting the right levers and switches before reducing rpm

[safe acorn]

That and my friends would be more likely to join up since we all kill for something

[nocturne mirage]

well, time to play some squad 44 and drive a whole lota tanks, cheers russ, going to see if the jagdpanther in the game has the correct sighting scope WZF 1/4 2.5x and 5.5x

winkelzielfehrnrohr (angled telescopic sight)

[safe acorn]

Welp since you're doing that

I want you to pop in "Another Rain - Halo 3 ODST OST Track" on YouTube, sit inside a Tiger II while it's raining in Squad 44 and let it ride

[nocturne mirage]

haha, why not this, hang on, you will love it

[nocturne mirage]

👆 Yesss

[safe acorn]

Nah
The thing about solemn music is that you're meant to realize what you are behind the inches of angled steel

[nocturne mirage]

oh, how about th4 original, original panzerlied, ever heard it?

[safe acorn]

Oh wait lemme rephrase
Sad, calming music

[nocturne mirage]

coming up

[nocturne mirage]

in a jagdtiger tho...still counts?

[safe acorn]

I guess
Doesn't matter what tank; bigger the better ig

[nocturne mirage]

72 tons it is

[nocturne mirage]

uploading, dont want it to be too long, but eh I think it gives the mood, even made the driver sky gaze XD

[nocturne mirage]

as a tank driver shoul I be scared seeing something like this near me...yes

[nocturne mirage]

https://youtu.be/AiZtiQbJZrQ This one better, respect to all the tankers 🫡

[nocturne mirage]

👆 you said you wanted me to do something the likes of this, here it is

[wicked holly]

Just 10 games in new rinoceronte learning it’s feel on my sons account. Got the gold M

https://youtu.be/aXFxvSjB4kk?si=Yfjp-D2ZTBqmEfXf

[zenith shadow]

Yo i pulled one of the big shermans that i always wanted

[blissful cave]

Yoooo I’ve been hoping for that tank to come into the shop for a while now nice : )

Also M6A2E1 was my most recent model I finished : )

Thank : )

[zenith shadow]

Yes i wanted to buy bundle mainly wanted the tier 8 one but oh well. Im happy with this one too going to enjoy that armor on it 🙂

I think its great even if its tier 7 you should reget it

[blissful cave]

Yea I mainly want the tier 8 one but they usually sell them in a double pack of both of them so I’ll pick up both since its a better deal

[hybrid kraken]

danmm its crazy to think this tank act existed

[blissful cave]

They sometimes sell it with that unobtainable time tested camo I hope I get it with that and not the purple digital one I’ve seen both

[blissful cave]

Yup it did
EXP was the actual planned version but was denied they still wanted to use the tank to do tests for T29 so they agreed to build the turret but put it on a normal M6 hull with no extra armor since it was unnecessary since they were only testing the turret so the tier 7 one is the actual built version tier 8 the full concept

[hybrid kraken]

imagine if t-29 act went into combat, how do u think it will perform against german tigers?

[hybrid kraken]

prob cuz the m6 hull is flawed i heard, plus its very expensive to produce

[blissful cave]

Very good armor 105mm will cut right through em
Tiger II I think the US would finally have a tank that’s a fair match

[zenith shadow]

I guess it will be cheaper to just buy the tier 8 of the other tank when they sell it for me

[hybrid kraken]

it might have trouble against tiger 2 if its hull down though, but it will decimate tiger 1, but it also have the same problem as the tigers, that is its too heavy

[zenith shadow]

Ah yes i can feel that armor. Even tho vindicator still managed to pen me but tiger 131 was struggling to make a hit on me

[hybrid kraken]

i like the tier 7 one more, cuz they have almost the same armor, but tier 8s have high pen tanks that make ur armor irelevant while in tier 7 u can feel the armor, and its op against tier 6

[zenith shadow]

Fr the most underrated american heavy premiums