vehicles-discussion

[robust orchid]

I think I just had a stroke and an aneurysm looking at whatever my teammate had in mind.

Jesus Christ, Wargaming, I didn't apply for a position as a clown yet you're throwing me into a circus 🗿

[safe acorn]

Never forget how the early Marks could not withstand rifle caliber fire at some areas

And were still sent to spearhead a massive assault

[meager spindle]

didn't the FT(-17) have more effective armor than mk1?

[safe acorn]

Idek
All I know is that it had a turret and revolving cupola
Much better than the Marks in close quarter combat

[meager spindle]

and was the last ever good french tank 😔

[shadow fable]

Cap. There land ship

[safe acorn]

What the Char 2C or the land battleship proposal?

[meager spindle]

you mean bombing target?

[shadow fable]

2C

[shadow fable]

POV every time a German plane saw a tank

[meager spindle]

as a A-10 player in WT i can tell you that is incorrect

[shadow fable]

Counter cas incoming

[solid gate]

the milk truck has been deployed

[shadow fable]

Naw. Mosin nagant

[meager spindle]

wild strella detected, run for the hills

[solid gate]

nah, a potato launcher

[shadow fable]

Naw air cannon

[safe acorn]

When the A-10 player meets the 7th copy paste Su-25 variant mounted with only 250mm rockets

[solid gate]

Naw, just wait and see the microorganisms decomposite the aircraft after some decades

[shadow fable]

💀💀💀

[meager spindle]

nah, i'll just keep inflating my air to ground kills statistics and "accidently" knock out some friendly british vehicles

[shadow fable]

Who said there friendly

[solid gate]

Definitely accidental friendly fire incidents

[meager spindle]

BRRRRRRRRRRT very accidental

[safe acorn]

Could be a good BR 7.7 or smth for China
M48A1 Patton with some parts of the A5 variant

[shadow fable]

Another premium probably

[meager spindle]

thats cool and all but T2/F1 with countermeasures pod when

[safe acorn]

Don't think it'll be a good enough premium
Or to warrant it any status

[shadow fable]

M60 entered the chat

[safe acorn]

Thing is M60 would be better than this

[shadow fable]

Yeah but essentially the same because of the other tanks in the same tier

[wary summit]

Be CM11
M60A3 hull
Abrams FCS
M48 turret
Most advanced Taiwanese MBT

[shadow fable]

Tier -11

[safe acorn]

Man I got scared facing it with my 15Bis

Till it stalled itself out

WG PLEASE

[meager spindle]

how'd you fail against a ... i won't say the nato callsign for the 15

[safe acorn]

upwards spiralling is a pathway to many abilities, some consider unnatural

[robust orchid]

Someone gave the Chaffee too much McDonald's

[meager spindle]

ah, that makes sense, yes the T2/F1 don't like energy retention in most cases

[safe acorn]

TIL
Stock SP 1 C is actually French
Spaded SP 1 C is German

[meager spindle]

meanwhile other japanese vehicles (this was 4 kills in one clip)

[quasi needle]

T57 or vk72?

[meager spindle]

ended up in a super clutch game

[meager spindle]

both, 57 is a fun clipper with troll armor, and vk for tungsten bonks and armor

[quasi needle]

Im almost done with my sheridan grind so which one u prefer

[meager spindle]

i'd say get the 57 first, since it branches off the T49, and the T54e2 is relatively good despite it's players.

[quasi needle]

Ok

[safe acorn]

@wary summit pissed that AW didn't consider this
https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/wieczorek-engin-blinde-de-combat-ebc-and-engin-blinde-de-combat-lourds-ebcl/

Now that I realized it
This is technically the modern SuperHeavy

[wary summit]

...So just the Leclerc?

[safe acorn]

Leclerc on the outside
Pseudo MBT-70 on the inside
That's for 1986
The 2000 Lourds redux is wild

Man decided
"If we are to have big guns, than our tanks must be bigger"

Hence the Lourds being 150 tonnes heavy

[wary summit]

As if 70 tons weren't heavy enough

[safe acorn]

Double it and give it to the next French engineer

@wary summit
"I'm in the club, straight up Janking it.. yk my peanits"

[wary summit]

Claustrophobia be damned

[safe acorn]

Imagine accidentally driving into a slight "slope downhill"

The crewman's POV

[latent briar]

How do u play a tank destoryer that has no turret any tips

[solid gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tnx0_mO1AY

[robust orchid]

Is the Foch worth grinding?

[turbid yacht]

No

[lost onyx]

Hi guys i wanna ask something, but please answer me fast.

Wich is the best:
Selling Super Conq for a Tank Hunter Bundle.
Or keep the Super Conq

Please tell me, im getting dilemma rn

[turbid yacht]

Keep the s conq

[lost onyx]

Any other answer?

[turbid yacht]

Keep the super conq

[lost onyx]

I need 4 to 6 answer to make me trust wich is the best.

[fresh patrol]

Keep the sconq

[turbid yacht]

I told ya, you should keep s conq

[lost onyx]

For me, i like S Conq, it's like when the T110 E 5 turret get attached to an IS 4 hull, it's was very like that for me.

[turbid yacht]

Keep the s conq

[fresh patrol]

Just that the sconq has a far better upperplate than the is4 lol

[lost onyx]

Yes, faster gun reload, but slower speed

[turbid yacht]

Keep the is4

[lost onyx]

I don't have it

[turbid yacht]

Keep the m5 stuart

[fresh patrol]

Well anyhow - you should pretty much never sell t10 collectors

[lost onyx]

Good answer, ok i keep the S Conq

[turbid yacht]

Woohooo

[lost onyx]

Why now everyone get the VK 90.01? Almost if i play for 10 battle's, i can see VK 90.01 for 7 battle Does they get from 2x free German Container?

Is that even possible with 0.05% drop rate? I think not but, i will try my best to get that container, because Free is Free

[turbid yacht]

No1

[quasi wedge]

'--'

[dense cargo]

its only 2,dont sweat for 2 wg is ripping is off if you want grind in gravity whenever it comes

[safe acorn]

do not use gravity to grind

[lost onyx]

Agreed

[thorny smelt]

I still prefer Uprising and Gravitizing to grind

[safe acorn]

Uprising and Big boss are my go to for me

[distant niche]

Why isn't the KPZ-70 a medium it was a project between the us and Germany to make a tank

[thorny smelt]

It's a MBT

[safe acorn]

Doesn't got that dawg in em
WG put it in the pound

[safe acorn]

@nocturne mirage @blissful cave we needa advocate for more ghillie netting type camos for WoTB
If Historical camos don't cut it

[nocturne mirage]

Ye ghillie net huh? I am afraid for now I have none. Most armies in ww2 used foliage like the Germans that attached chicken wire to their tanks to stick a bunch of sticks and twigs etc to camouflage their tanks in Normandy for ambush that kind of thing, otherwise it was the typical 3 tone or 2 tone colour scheme. For the soviets their 4BO protective green camouflage (standard soviet camouflage paint) they relied on it mostly for the summer months as the green fit many forms of vegetation by default. For the USA they too never really adopted any kind of camouflage since their primary use for armour was with infantry support, however they too would use some forms of vegetation and attach it to their tanks. The british had the same mindset as the Americans using infantry to not be ambushed by the germans or bombard a suspected place with artillary first then advance, they were by this time using the same CC15 olive drab colour as the US not to be mistaken for German tanks with their near identical yellow colouration on some of their tanks. I think ghillie nets in particular were or used for stationary anti tank guns or flak from masking to aireal threats, tanks in particular not so much. I have no examples of any ghillie nets used on ww2 Armour

By the time of the bulge some Americans started using "camouflage" varieties like painting a few dark bands over their tanks or something more trivial, this came from POWs who mocked the camouflage strength of the American's tanks stating it was lackluster and the reason why they were spotted many times over even in static positions since the Germans had ample time to study the terrain. I will give examples of this now

[distant niche]

MBTs fit into medium tank

[nocturne mirage]

1. M4A1(76), 2) M.24 light tank "chaffee", 3)M4A3(76) and last the T26E1 "super pershing" As you can see these are camouflage types the US would adopt for some of their tanks and not all US crews would do this, just some and these are the examples

It appears I do have examples of ghillie nets but 1)their black and white photographs and 2) they were static observer tanks or reconnaisance tanks. So like M5A1 stuarts or cruiser tanks like crusader mk IIs etc

[wary summit]

MBTs are in a blur line between being heavies and mediums

It also comes down to the basic tank triangle

You wouldn't call the CR2 not being a medium with the whopping 70 ton weight

[meager edge]

Char futur 4 is good?

How to play it

[quick badger]

Hello, peeps! Which tech tree is easier to grind E4 or E4? DT American

[harsh elm]

E4

[quick badger]

I mean E4 or E3? my bad 😬

[harsh elm]

still E4 imo

[quick badger]

Ah.. okie.. it can tank and hit hard yes?

[harsh elm]

e3 has 680 alpha (that or 670 i forgot) and e4 has 630 but the e4 has a turret and the line is generally better than the e3s line
they both have their ups and downs but both are def solid

[safe acorn]

I think rn I shouldn't touch my Leo 1 until I manage to get both FV4202 and in the future Progetto M40 on that 50+% WR in 100 battles

Kinda like how Odin banished Thor

[quick badger]

Gotcha.. Thanks.. imma get the E4 👍

[harsh elm]

their both fairly easy to use as well

[frigid vapor]

HI. Where i can see the list of the changes of rebalanced tier 9 in the past seasonal update?

[wary summit]

https://guidesblitz.com/update-10-6-tier-ix-changes/

[frigid vapor]

Thank you, i didn't check the changes last time

[quick badger]

Alrighty.. Thanks a lot 😀

[solid gate]

guys, the developers totally killed grille 15

[safe acorn]

its been like a good few updates

[solid gate]

it’s damage is 580 now

but when i bought that tank it was 640 several years ago

[safe acorn]

"several years ago" things change

[solid gate]

it used to be a funny thing becore.. but now it’s simply dead
though i can make 5k damage on it it’s still bad..

[harsh elm]

isnt that bad as many say in my experiences

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave apparently from Tank Encyclopedia, Leone is the equivalent to a Licence-Built Leopard 1A3

Which means it's possible to get Leopard A1A1

[shadow fable]

@blissful cave we getting another Strv tank. Essentially a worse centurion / cear

[nocturne mirage]

So I deleted my wargaming account, figured I will wait for IS-2 1945 by force since it takes a usually 45 days, if it takes shorter, dont say anything please zip it 🤣 . Yes I am crazy but that's how far I go to have a tank with a truly accurate camouflage and realistic components lol

then I will be in time to get it on VE day 🤞Wargaming dont you dare blow this

[wary summit]

The Strv 81 or another horrible amalgamation

[wary summit]

Been around since earlier this year xddd

[shadow fable]

Never seen it

[wary summit]

Sold in crates and as you stated before, a horrible Centurion

[shadow fable]

I’m just excited for the new collectors that being tested

[stoic finch]

wich tank is better obj268/4 or wz113g-ft

[safe acorn]

113G FT
It's free amongst other things

[stoic finch]

nono not the free or premium thing just in general as a tank wich is better

[trail quest]

Wz way better

[robust orchid]

Lmao WZ is just way better, you can't get UFP prammod by anything, plus, Chinese H E A T

[somber stream]

Yes T-80 BVM

[sullen gale]

Hear me out: the Sav 20.12.48 as a tier 6 premium european nation tank destroyer. Extremely poor armor (30mm glacis), average mobility, and a 120mm 3 round autoloader with a 1.2 second intraclip reload and 95mm of pen with standard AP. Clip reload of 30-40 seconds. The ultimate boom n zoom/ambush fighter

[safe acorn]

Random T-80 jumpscare

[odd cove]

that the t62a mod?

[real gulch]

Nah dis boi looks like WG material

[wary summit]

T-62 mod was the T-90

That one's the Obj 140 xd

[stoic finch]

wich should i get fv183 kranvagn or is7 i can buy just one

[sick needle]

Maus armor need a nerf !

[wary summit]

IS-7 since you are asking this question 💀

[stoic finch]

wym

[sick needle]

man this game really needs an overall. its total chaos out there

[odd cove]

overhaul*?

[errant oak]

Kranvagn

[blissful cave]

?

Oh if it’s Strv 81 then I already got that one during its original release I got it in one crate too

I got excited for a second thinking we were getting Strv 104 or something

[untold jetty]

Is it worth buying Vickers Light? I have the one from tier 9 and when I compare stats they seems very similar.

[errant oak]

Idk but HESH looks fun

[blissful cave]

Me when I see somebody using stock season tanks

Like why would you play swindler as soon as you get it with zero upgrades?
Just wait a bit no?

[meager spindle]

Me who has them all upgraded and sold

[shadow fable]

Me who got them all upgraded the first week because I have a tank collection addiction

[smoky needle]

Will someone make titan charioters high explosive ammo better

Like they are only 420 damge

[digital crypt]

guys how much is the total cost of the 9 equipments at tier X?

[smoky needle]

On 8th level with 170 of penetration its horible tooo horible and its tank destroyer

Like minimum 500 damage to their high explosive ammo and 560 to normal hi.ex.ammo

@digital crypt It will cost now minimum 2 and half mil of coins

[digital crypt]

why minimum?

do u mean without discounts right?

[safe acorn]

Play?
Man I straight up sell

[trail quest]

Bro be selling decent tanks 💀 silencer more than decent

[shadow fable]

Silencer can lick my shoe. I see those thing get nuked all the time

[safe acorn]

If I wanted an autoloading Charioteer lookalike
I would just play FV4005 (which I have)

[trail quest]

Doesn’t want a free bourasque at a lower tier 😟

[safe acorn]

I already have the Bourrasque

[blissful cave]

Silencer is the only one I actually kept and like playing looks nice and is fun
I did keep glacier too because I somehow was able to max it

[trail quest]

So why not have a more broken one tier for tier

[blissful cave]

Basilisk I kept too because it looks nice but don’t ever use it

[violet timber]

Magnate>>>

[shadow fable]

Naw. I sold everything but the Fen

[violet timber]

Fenrik is garbage tho

[shadow fable]

No it’s not. You need to know how to play it

[safe acorn]

Because it's actually worthless to have 2 of the same tanks in my garage

Even though one clearly feels so much better

[violet timber]

It has the same profile as the Emil 1, a bad gun, and its mobility is bad as well l@ap

[trail quest]

Not really

[shadow fable]

It plays almost identical to the 1951

[safe acorn]

I have 0 reason to keep Silencer
If it ain't WT and not requiring a lineup there's no reason for me to

[shadow fable]

Real

[safe acorn]

Man I wished either the TAM or TH-301 is in the game

[shadow fable]

I think it’s in the console version

[trail quest]

Why keep the t77 and 752 they’re both op but play the same. Yeah pretty flawed logic

[shadow fable]

Huh

[safe acorn]

I don't even have the T77

[trail quest]

Logic still applies. Nah I will sell a very strong and fun tank as it plays like another does. Whatever it’s your loss bro

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave apparently I stumbled upon WGs version of "Passed for Consideration"

And by god did I not expect T26E4 with T32 Turret to be a thing

[shadow fable]

💀

[shadow fable]

That’s like saying if I got the 1951 first why grind the Emil line

[violet timber]

It would if it didn’t have a significantly worse gun and mobility in exchange for slightly better armor tier for tier

[trail quest]

Yep that’s why Iam disagreeing with him

[blissful cave]

?

[shadow fable]

The gun is fine.

@trail quest I’m currently grinding that line when I had the 1951 first

[violet timber]

The gun is trash

[trail quest]

Yeah the Emil 1 gun is horribly inaccurate hence why they gave it reti cali

[shadow fable]

What about the counter weight. @violet timber is not it’s called upgrades for a reason it’s a merge between the Emil 1 and 2

[safe acorn]

It's WoT
Do it matter?

[violet timber]

And yet it lacks dpm and any meaningful burst. It's accuracy is also rather poor. And its mobility is trash. And the armor doesn't work against same tier tanks, much less tier 10s

[safe acorn]

Wait what
Why's there a SPAAG category

[shadow fable]

No not really but it’s going to look weird as hell.

@violet timber again it’s a merge between the Emil 1 and 2. The las cannon you can hit both rounds for 400+ and I’m pretty sure the mag is only 12 seconds

[blissful cave]

TS-2 BABEYYY

[violet timber]

It's not a merge, its's just a minor improvement on the Emil 1 moved up a tier. The mag takes almost 19 seconds with cali.

[shadow fable]

I don’t use cali and it’s faster then 19. If your having trouble playing that’s you but I know how to play the Emil’s so I do complete fine in it. I will die on this hill

[violet timber]

The fastest you can get it to is 18.57 seconds. I don't have trouble playing it, but that doesn't mean it's not bad.

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Upcoming_tanks

Help me uncover it all

Oh goddamn

Sheridan MBT is true
It's a bigger box

Oh yeah WG has been planning to add MBT-70 and XM-803 it seems

So I was somewhat right

[blissful cave]

T95E8 TEST RIG YEEAH

[shadow fable]

It’s not a bad tank it’s just a tank that’s has a hard learning curve

[violet timber]

It’s not a hard learning curve, it’s simply just bad. The only thing it has going for it (somewhat) is survivability, and even then that’s still mediocre at best

[shadow fable]

Current test tanks

[trail quest]

That batchat thing been there for years

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave M103 fetus form looking god awful

[shadow fable]

All you really have to do is play it’s armor.

[violet timber]

Supposedly WG is revamping it and planning to introduce it soon

@in.orbe.terrum.non.visi and even at full gun dep its armor is starting to turn gray 💀

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave first SuperHeavy for USA?
AGF 150T

[shadow fable]

That’s max and that the lower plate. Hide it and you good

[violet timber]

The turret is a 50/50 my dude

[blissful cave]

Kpz 70 Porsche concept is the one I’ve been the most excited for I’ve had so much gold saved up for months now

[shadow fable]

That’s up against a T95. You just have to know how to use your armor the 1951, and the Emil 2 are the same way

@blissful cave yeah it’s a cool tank

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave I think I've stumbled upon a gold mine
Most of the stuff Im seeing have credible pictures and information backing them

[violet timber]

All anybody has to do is switch to prammo. 1951 has the same problem, but a much better gun and better mobility. Emil 2 doesn't have that problem, and it still has a better gun and better mobility

[shadow fable]

Don’t play as a brawler or a frontline tank. Let your teammates with more hp take hits. It really not that hard

[safe acorn]

Absolutely beautiful how they're adding more obscene interwar tanks

[violet timber]

If you want a support heavy there are much bette r options lmao

[shadow fable]

I never said support.

@safe acorn yeah I’m kind of excited to see what others they will add

[safe acorn]

Thank god I found it

WG planned to add the autoloaded Tiger II proposal into the game

[shadow fable]

God help us all

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave so many interwar tanks planned to be added
France was planned to receive the original AMX M4 51

[blissful cave]

At work rn so I only get to take a peek every now and then but I swear if Neubaufahrzeug is in there

[safe acorn]

It is

That and a full TOG 2 tech tree

[safe acorn]

the AVREs have been planned

[wary summit]

Italy and France getting the fun M47 Patton

Scorp recce 76 and 90

Boombox Patton

SK-105

PC seems to finally obtain their MBT/KPZ-70

Seems like fun stuff

[shadow fable]

Boombox Patton??

[safe acorn]

Finally they adding the Emil medium tank variant

[blissful cave]

There’s a HUH?!

[wary summit]

M60A2 Starship

[shadow fable]

Hmmm atgms??

[safe acorn]

Thought you meant the M728 CEV

[wary summit]

Probably same loadout as the Sheri

[shadow fable]

I don’t know cuz it’s main ammo is atgmsw

[wary summit]

The AVRE Patton?

Yeah fun too

[safe acorn]

Italy gets this
Literally autoloaded Leopard

@wary summit Italy gets B1 Centauro lmao

[shadow fable]

💀

[wary summit]

Also why SPAAG?

[safe acorn]

Oh yeah
Remember when I talked about Israel having a possible tech tree

Yeah that was planned alongside New Zealand/Australia tech tree

They have heavy tanks too

Yeah

Merkava prototype

[shadow fable]

We need a Swedish/Finnish tech tree

[blissful cave]

breathing heavily

[safe acorn]

THE OSORIO HAS BEEN PLANNED

[wary summit]

Tog tech tree

So the final one is going to have a 12cm gun or something

[safe acorn]

WG has been hiding their secret profit machine all along
@wary summit they're also planning to add the stupidly huge Class 3P Bismarck for South Africa's line

[blissful cave]

S-s-s-s…

SUOMI MAINITTU TORILLE TAVATAAN

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave I have actually found a gold mine this time
Literally from searching up if TH-301 exists in WoT Console

But fr tho still no T-72 prototype or smth for WoT

[shadow fable]

Concrete stug

[kindred wren]

They won‘t even make a T-62, let alone a T-64, let alone a T-72 in any variation

[safe acorn]

They literally have the Merkava Prototype on the list and XM-803 (T95 120mm with the Delta APFSDS)

[kindred wren]

That‘s not an official list

In fact this entire list is more fanfiction than realistic

[shadow fable]

We have the T-62A

[violet timber]

XM-803 is the American continuation of the MBT-70

[kindred wren]

Yes, the T-62A

[safe acorn]

I mean its their Wikipedia on their website
@violet timber yeah focused on budget cuts and simplification

[kindred wren]

The T-62 has a 115mm smoothbore gun

[kindred wren]

The wiki, as all wikis, is purely player written and maintained and WG just hosts the wiki

[blissful cave]

BT-42 marked as a tank destroyer in that list
That’s like the opposite of what it does lmao

[kindred wren]

The entire reason why the wiki still exists is probably WoWs which actually invests into their wiki. The Blitz wiki for instance is pretty dead, the English section of the Blitz wiki is even permanently locked

[blissful cave]

(It was mainly better at soft target use like MG nests and fortifications and wasn’t good at tank vs tank fighting)

[kindred wren]

And I bet they didn‘t lock the rest of the Blitz wiki too because they spend so little time caring about it that they simply didn‘t realise that there are other languages too

[safe acorn]

Ay like I said
WGs version of Passed for Consideration in WT
I can never have the Tu-22RD but I'm glad the company took notice of it

[wary summit]

Demolition and infantry support vehicles seems to be categories as TDs

The AVRE from Britain are in the TD category, so no surprises there

[kindred wren]

No, it‘s „random person wrote it into the article“

[safe acorn]

You sure are fun to have at any conversation

[kindred wren]

It is entirely possible that no WG employee ever looked at that list

[wary summit]

Literally the top of the list gives out the reminder like a movie

[kindred wren]

Would you prefer having a false impression?

[shadow fable]

💀

[safe acorn]

Uhuh
That and there's so much information on new tanks I've never seen before now

[blissful cave]

But the BT-42 is finally being added and is marked as a light tank so that makes more sense I guess

[safe acorn]

Like America with a 140 tonne tank design
Or Sho't with a 120mm gun

[shadow fable]

Naw we need the M60 with M1 turret and gun

[safe acorn]

Nah
It's abit much considering it's the M1A1 turret and gun with a M60 using 1500hp engine

[blissful cave]

I just cannot wait for the day it’s added to blitz my dreams will be complete

[shadow fable]

Through it in as a collector

[shadow fable]

114mm of pen at that tier 💀 mini kv2

[wary summit]

M60-2k?

A bit too advanced for that

Maybe the later Magach 6s series could be added at best

[safe acorn]

If anything
M60 AMBT seems more reasonable

[blissful cave]

114mm caliber

[shadow fable]

That has ERA tho

[blissful cave]

They have this list of all these cool tanks they could add and what do they do instead? Random made up bs

[safe acorn]

I don't get the fear for ERA

It's not like all tanks use HEAT as their prammo or have a standard AP pen deficit

[wary summit]

Magach 7s then

[shadow fable]

Well even it’s not heat it lowers pen because it acts like spaced armor

[safe acorn]

Ah yes
5mm of steel makes all the difference

[wary summit]

M4/T-34 was the most far fetch idea

Ah yes take the disadvantage of both tanks and keep them together

[shadow fable]

That’s why killing Russian MBT is sucks at 10.0.

@safe acorn trust it dose

[shadow fable]

So real

[safe acorn]

You do realize
This is a company that cannot model volumetric properly and keeps messing up armor profiles right?

[shadow fable]

That’s the point. They could mess up and instead of 5mm it could be 25

[wary summit]

First gen ERA shouldn't do much against kinetic rounds on non-composite armour

Probably 50-50 chance of stopping HEAT maybe but I'm just pulling AW's models at this point

[safe acorn]

Yeah Blazer does a horrible job at stopping KE rounds
There's literally no fear warranted to ERA that doesn't protect against that and gets blown off anyways

[blissful cave]

I’d rather take combinations of real parts any day over entirely made up tanks just look at all the tech trees we’ve gotten lately absolutely ridiculous

[shadow fable]

True

Time to get the meg in WTM

[safe acorn]

All I can think is to make ERA as a whole hitbox with limited hp to block HEAT/HE shots
To put a small hp bar alongside the tanks HP bar to indicate how much more it can protect you

At most ERA would stand 3-4 shots before being useless to the tank

[shadow fable]

Actually I met try to make the Meg in panzer war

[shadow fable]

The WZ-114 has the composite thing that makes all damage except HE -20%

[safe acorn]

Reactive armor consumables is the wrong way to go about it

[shadow fable]

I could see WG adding it as a permanent feature

[safe acorn]

I feel like it makes sense
That and it should be able to use WGs changing graphics for tanks that have been in the map for long
(To be clearer, tanks get dirtier when the battle progresses)

[blissful cave]

Random thought I just had
If WG marked BT-42 as German for wot pc that basically puts a nail in the coffin for ever getting a Finnish category the one actual Finnish tank they mark as something else

[shadow fable]

It’s cuz Finland was allied with them

[safe acorn]

They went to hell with that decision

Couldn't even mark it as Soviet for the BT chassis that was used

It's as bad as WoTB marking T-55A as German without giving it any camo to state that it is

And it's clearly using the Soviet green

[shadow fable]

Most photos of it are white with the Nono symbol

[wary summit]

Marking it as Soviet would be an insult and a half to the Finns

[safe acorn]

What the Balkenkreuz symbol?
It's not offensive and T-55A shouldn't even use that insignia

It should be the DDR flag

Like this as the standard camo would make sense if they wanted to play that card

[wary summit]

Pretty sure he was referring to the Finnish "swast1kas"

[safe acorn]

Ah

[blissful cave]

Oho absolutely NOT the tank was made to fight the Soviets and were Finlands biggest enemy it’d be PAINFUL to have our tank marked as Soviet

[safe acorn]

It's 2 swords down the throat to choose from
WG could flip a coin and still manage to piss the Finnish playerbase off

[blissful cave]

Yea I know it was the best option to put it under with what they had just saying that the decision to do that sort of killed the chance of getting Finland as its own separate category

[blissful cave]

Fact

[shadow fable]

No the ww2 one

[safe acorn]

Wait what symbol are you referring to
Because I can only think of the Balkenkreuz

Which isn't offensive

[blissful cave]

But since blitz has Finland (and is basically unused rn :/ it better be marked as that when we get it

[shadow fable]

The German ww2 symbol that’s banned

[safe acorn]

The SS symbol?

[wary summit]

The swastika

[shadow fable]

Thank you

[wispy magnet]

how good is the wz114

[shadow fable]

It’s good if you know how to use it. And the chimera is fine

[safe cedar]

Well blitz still has hope, since we have a finnish tank ingame

[blissful cave]

Forgot to do a tank of the day I was very busy all day here’s the uh Renault FT AC

[plucky summit]

My waddling baby

[turbid yacht]

Wealthiest man in Wisconsin

[nocturne mirage]

To think these tanks were used as static defenses in normandy lol, very funny

[safe cedar]

The last ww1 tank in-game

[nocturne mirage]

well the renault ft that is not the AC

[safe cedar]

Restored mine.

[nocturne mirage]

Na what you talking about? thats an m1 abramhs disguised as a ww1 tank, it will destroy the competition

[safe cedar]

It literally has the turret removed & à boiler plate crappily welded on

[nocturne mirage]

Yes I made a mistake I meant renault ft was normandy static defense tanks

not AC variant

[safe acorn]

God WZ-120GFT fills me with anticipation

[safe cedar]

You gave me a genius idea

[safe cedar]

U want da classic?

[nocturne mirage]

Ye just know you will be going up against cromwell mk vis ivs and churchills, fireflies, sherman mk 1smkiis, mk vs

not pretty tanks for the ft to face in normandy map if thats your idea

[safe cedar]

My idea was modding FT AC to use FT-17 model

[nocturne mirage]

ah ok awsm

[safe acorn]

Did they do smth to WZ-120GFTs armor?
Feels more squishy than I thought

[plucky summit]

No.

Maybe.

[turbid yacht]

Baked chickpeas

[blissful cave]

Yes kinda
Finland ordered vickers tanks from Britain but to save money bought only the “shell” of the tank just empty no internal stuff or even armament and they’d fill that in once they received them with their own equipment and the gun was a license built Bofors one

[safe acorn]

Type B variant

WG could add the Swedish imported BMP-1

The one without the ATGM
Fun Tier VI autoloader

Autoloader

Eh I like something like this and hell a hybrid nation for Sweden is a long time coming

It's basically Sweden at this point

In game or what

Wouldn't hurt to add the PBV anyways since it's Tier VI
Either that or the SAV.20
Both are autoloaders with HEAT as their main ammo, latter being a tank destroyer

[robust orchid]

Lmao, just had a 5 match lose streak, carrying the teams and it's always the underperforming low WR people who have the audacity to call you -redacted- when you lose an impossible 1v5

[brazen falcon]

Hey, how is Tiger 1 in today meta?

still workable as med in uptier, bully down tier tank?

[wary summit]

Yeah

Nothing much changed to it

[brazen falcon]

thanks

[devout ledge]

My new tank

[turbid yacht]

[nocturne mirage]

Ah hello smasher care if I smash your face inwards again today? 🤔

[safe acorn]

Peak Smasher killing moment

[nocturne mirage]

🤣 funny ass game yakuza

[safe acorn]

Yakuza
The game without a serious plot

[nocturne mirage]

Its a KV-2 on steriods and hemoriods but still its a KV-2..enough said. People have such high egos with smasher they dont realise that it cant penetrate everything in wotb world and so with their high egos I umpurposely stick my front part of tank out at a 55 degree angle while my front wheel is hidden and bam instant regret afterwards (rush then shoot go around corner show frontal, they shoot rush again then shoot, frontal rince and repeat

even if they resort to he its not that much

[devout ledge]

I got it yesterday and it’s still a savage

[nocturne mirage]

dont matter they have egos and they get played with my frontal tactic all the time

[safe acorn]

Man
To stand in front of a restaurant in a queue
While the Iftar recital has passed
Is making me tweak when a minute longer passes

[frosty holly]

Smasher but you cant smash-her

[nocturne mirage]

ALL THE T I M E

[devout ledge]

That’s how I got it.and about 20.000 gold and all the other bits

It was worth £15 trust me.if you have it spare.

[nocturne mirage]

If I will choose a tank like smasher I will go rather with the ISU 152 thank you very much

or even frankenstein with the big gun equiped

[coarse blade]

Steyr WT still prevails

[safe acorn]

No
I kill smashers, I don't play them
I kill them

[safe acorn]

Reference to a rather nsfw meme in a court setting

[nocturne mirage]

With the ISU its gun on he damage so it dont need to pen will do serious damage and that means it gets away every single time while you took that damage waiting to get your chance to hit it in return lol

[coarse blade]

@lean minnow crazy name by the way

[nocturne mirage]

ye its childish

[coarse blade]

Anyways give Jag e100 a reticle

[nocturne mirage]

ISU 120?

[coarse blade]

263

[nocturne mirage]

oh obj 762 I think

the soviet one with the box like back side

[coarse blade]

Object 263

The Yolo wagon.

[nocturne mirage]

263 thats it. Thats the tank

[coarse blade]

Wait till it discovers a pebble

[safe acorn]

I love donking people now in the E-100 for 1000 HE damage

[nocturne mirage]

Imagin if strds vagen comes to blitz the swedish td that can put its frontal side downwards so all you need is a tiny bump in the ground and you are invinsible because..just look at the thing

[coarse blade]

Even if you face hug the 263, it's still penable.

[safe acorn]

WG won't do it
But snail does

How to make Strv 103 the most annoying thing to face even if you can penetrate it

[devout ledge]

Ok it’s a lot then,here it’s a pack of cigarettes

[nocturne mirage]

ye crazy stupid tank but brilliant design

[devout ledge]

I have to stop smoking

[nocturne mirage]

dog shouldnt smoke you are right

[safe acorn]

What's more interesting is that it was made to be operated by 1 person
But it's got a crew of 3
It's autoloader mechanism has two ammo stowages to change ammo with relative ease

[nocturne mirage]

very cool

[safe acorn]

Strv 103C I think has ribs on the UFP that actually does reduce the penetration effect of some rod rounds (like the T-62s)

[wary summit]

Never ask the Swedes to do anything logical

They would let their guests starve because it's "tradition"

[devout ledge]

If anyone up for a game dm me.

[coarse blade]

IKEA is also a tradition.

[nocturne mirage]

dogs dont play blitz if yes since when?

[devout ledge]

Stop calling yourself a dog it’s not healthy

[nocturne mirage]

I am a CHAMELEON

[devout ledge]

So ur girl is a biatch

[nocturne mirage]

what!!??🤣 🤣

[safe acorn]

It got speed, armor and firepower
The triangle for MBTs

[verbal root]

Where did this one come from

[devout ledge]

That’s what they are called no pun intended

[wary summit]

Another weird thing about the 103 is that unlike other tanks of its era like the Chieftain, M60 or T-55/T-62, it doesn't have a built-in NBC protection system, but is somehow prepared for one

[nocturne mirage]

🤷‍♂️ 🤣

[devout ledge]

Read above you will understand

[nocturne mirage]

no I understood female Kanines are b+itches you are right

[devout ledge]

Ok good.

[wary summit]

Brainrot behaviour

[devout ledge]

Some people a bit woke nowadays lol

[nocturne mirage]

Well thats enough of that time to destroy some fockewulfs in dcs with my spit

[devout ledge]

Enjoy

[nocturne mirage]

I am a mark ix mate the first aircraft to ever shoot down a me262 lol. Think I will be fine

[devout ledge]

What games this then

[nocturne mirage]

DCS:digital combat simulator

[devout ledge]

So is it any good

[nocturne mirage]

much better than warthunder I will say, much more realistic no joke even real pilots attest this

[devout ledge]

You on pc

[coarse blade]

100% realistic

I even hold the record for the most broken planes all time.

[nocturne mirage]

of course lol

[nocturne mirage]

count me in there lol getting better luckily? hopefully? 🤞 🤣

[devout ledge]

That’s why then.i have noticed everything better on pc.

[nocturne mirage]

Naa warthunder mobile coming when? looks fire ngl

[devout ledge]

What is the name of the game I will look it up.

[coarse blade]

Irony that the younger me wanted to be pilot.

[nocturne mirage]

DCS search DCS

[devout ledge]

Oh ok lol

[coarse blade]

Now i got more interested in Astronomy.

[nocturne mirage]

https://youtu.be/LxtKOi0y1oI this is a video I recorded in my spit. FYI crashing happens lol

[devout ledge]

Looked it up dcs I can’t say what popped up,kids are here watching lol

[nocturne mirage]

ah lol ok

[loud crest]

whats the better path to go for t57

[devout ledge]

It seems the steering is precise

[nocturne mirage]

ye well here I am on jkeyboard lol, you need a fligh stick. I am the nut case on keyboard lol

[devout ledge]

Now you just need people to shoot at ,and tanks ect.

[nocturne mirage]

there are this was first flight lol. Just testing

[devout ledge]

Oh ok.ok later guys.

[nocturne mirage]

👋

[robust orchid]

M24 Chaffee > M41 Walker-Bulldog > T49 > T54E1 > T57 imo

[loud crest]

ok thanks

[safe acorn]

Yeah because real pilots don't even touch War Thunder to begin with

[nocturne mirage]

👍 just wannabees

[safe acorn]

But simulator mode is indeed quite difficult

[nocturne mirage]

not DCS difficult trust me, I may not have played wt on sim or any mode, but DCS oof, its tough out there

[safe acorn]

Yeah ik
I have a close friend who plays it
Still enjoys playing it

[nocturne mirage]

there is no mode, it is what it is. No seriously there is no mode for flight it is how it is, thats bad ass you are forced to take it how it is 💪

[nocturne mirage]

Ye I can imagine, mate you litarally operate all the buttons, knobs, switches, levers um throttle umm what else? stuff like that in real time mate real time, the spit I can say is pretty complicated for take off before starting the piston engine

cant wait to buy the Bf-109K4

then Ill cry on take out like a true german pilot lol

[safe acorn]

For now I can say is that I enjoy Air Realistic Battles with War Thunder because it hits the difficulty balance

[nocturne mirage]

well whenever you get a chance try DCS, you wont be dissapointed, of course the first few tries must be dissapointing lol

[safe acorn]

Nah I don't think I will
Aerospace Engineering course at its finest

[nocturne mirage]

For the spitfire alone I forked out I think around 45 dollars, because there at least they make sure on the accuracy on the model, sound design, flight mechanics etc

the bf109-k4 will be another 45

[nocturne mirage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8f_ouKwHlY you going to tell me how they made the camera look doesnt represent a gopro like view lol? Ye go pro in 1944 is weird and all but still, pretty impressive there is apperantly a gun camera setting to see what its like through the gun camera view point, but eh didnt figure this out yet. But ye these graphics are insane, hands down insane

[blissful cave]

New tanks to work on babeyyy

The thing is I don’t really know how I’ll paint them other than Tornvagn
Which is going to be making a model of the “Tornvagn MBT” design @solid gate made

I got T95 AE Phase 1 M2 Medium M6A2E1 and another Tornvagn

Here’s Tornvagn MBT sort of just a few small details like ERA and track covers and stuff

[robust orchid]

Wait, did you make that one in Simpleplanes?

[flat aspen]

can someone help me with equipment for leo1, is this good?

[balmy compass]

I think a simple tan camo would look cool on the T95

[blissful cave]

Nautical did yes

[robust orchid]

Go for EGL, the velocity is already good

[lyric copper]

nah, mach 7 shell velocity

[nocturne mirage]

The one on carton? Is it a m1 light? Or a stuart variant

[lyric copper]

M2 Medium

[nocturne mirage]

Oh ok

[blissful cave]

I want to experiment with Winter camo more but none of the tanks I got are really fitting for that other than Tornvagn which I already did winter camo on my original one I got this one to do the MBT design

[solid gate]

Maybe a desert camo for the AE?

[blissful cave]

Yea I was thinking desert colors for AE

my general ideas are
T95-some faded greens or light brown
Tornvagn-MBT
M2 Medium-Dark green
M6-eh either green or desert either works
AE-desert colors

Using in game camos for some ideas T95 maybe time tested/swamp hollow
The rest idk

[safe cedar]

@blissful cave
Strv k is real now lol

[blissful cave]

That’s not Kran hull tho?

[safe cedar]

Still funni tho

[wary summit]

Why on an Strv-103 hull tho lmao?

[safe cedar]

Strv 103 & kranvagn hulls are fairly closely related.

[safe cedar]

Someone should buy a centurion turret and donate it to the meuseum to mount on Krv

[blissful cave]

Or crowdfunded replica Kranvagn turret

If people could crowdfund building shelters for every tank at Parola because of the BT-42 in Girls und panzer or restore the FV4005 because of wot and “shtbarn” then we need something like that for Kranvagn

Replica stuff would be perfectly fine it doesn’t need to have the accurate armor thickness,oscillate or internal autoloader stuff if it’s just gonna be for display,better than just the incomplete hull

[rotund sonnet]

only really happens to popluar tanks

[safe cedar]

Not enough blue prints tho, a wooden mockup wouldn't be hard thô

[blissful cave]

I am just too big brain
So the gun for T95 printed awfully and there’s stuff blocking the muzzle brake but I had an idea
So I have a model kit for T30/T34 where it comes with two different guns to choose between T30 and T34 what if I just give it the gun it has in game just like T30

Problem is I’m building T30 so I have the T34 gun as the spare

[safe cedar]

Could work

[blissful cave]

Another idea I had is cut off the muzzle brake of the bad print and just use the muzzle tip of the T34 gun (separate piece) and glue that to the 3D print stick
But that’s kinda stupid because just using the model tank gun would be much smoother

[robust orchid]

Does anyone know the diameter of a 75mm APFSDS cartridge's saboted projectile? Specifically the XM885 APFSDS projectile used in the XM274A CTA 75mm Autocannon mounted on the HSTV-L?

[shadow fable]

Look the ammo up

[blissful cave]

I really don’t want to just do just a single solid color because it sort of like a waste
I’m trying M2 medium rn and base coating brown and then going to lightly spray dark green and see if I can make it look rusty

[toxic pawn]

what the hell bro needs this information for???

[safe cedar]

Like 20mm

[half fog]

Hello,I grinded down the Yoh line till the M-V-Yoh,it was very painful,and still is,I asked in blitz school chat and applied all the tips I received but I still get kicked out of mother earth in the first few minutes and deal no damage,H E L P

[blissful cave]

Progress on M2 Medium

Thinking of maybe adding a star decal but don’t really have a good flat spot to do that so I’ll just save it for one of the others

[pearl girder]

maybe its the matchmaker?

[half fog]

Part of it since I get rushed

[shadow fable]

Sprocket

[shadow fable]

Looks fire as usual

[blissful cave]

Thank : )

[safe acorn]

You can't modify ammo that much in Sprocket

Speaking of which
I've been thinking of returning to it but man
No updates as of yet

[white storm]

there’s gonna be an open beta of geo internals soon

[safe acorn]

"soon"

[white storm]

apparently mid-to-late april the dev said

[safe acorn]

I hope

[frank tusk]

.-.

[solid gate]

Nice

[shadow fable]

You go into the game files

[shadow fable]

Are you sure. Actually it got delayed

[safe acorn]

Yeah but you can't really make it as detailed as you want it to be

[pliant hare]

Did they reduce the price for purchasing vehicles ?

[deep belfry]

discounts for anniversary

[violet glen]

Mauschen VS Maus

[placid grotto]

The t6 shoe box (su-100y) is considered a derp?

[robust orchid]

Anything with a large caliber, high alpha, low DPM gun is considered a derp, especially for its tier

[placid grotto]

[kind star]

VOTE TO GIVE THE KV 2 HESH SHELLS vvvv

[deep belfry]

We don't need a tech tree smasher

[dull pike]

Where does that map come out?

[kind star]

Y not? We need a 183 at tier 6

We also need the maus to have the speed of the m41d and the hull turn rate and the power to weight ratio of the m41d on it too

[violet timber]

No

[wary summit]

Then we'll nerf every other stats of it until it's barely playable

[kind star]

Y

[blissful cave]

Figured out how to do this
Watered down orange/brown for some rusty areas

[jaunty shale]

It’s the box tank.. shoe box gae… boxxxx tankkkk.. not a derp gun… has pen, has DPM, has good velocity

[rotund sonnet]

M2 medium

When the Americans still were into adding as many machine guns as they can on a single tank

[wary summit]

Has beefy alpha, has horrible dispersion numbers

Checks the major part of being a derp tank

[blissful cave]

How many machine guns should we put on the M2 Medium?
US:yes

[safe acorn]

I can't choose whether WoTB or WT has terrible MM

Oh wait both does

[robust orchid]

M2s

In an M2

[rotund sonnet]

Do weathering on the exhausts

[blissful cave]

Did

[rotund sonnet]

Oh

[jaunty shale]

Doesn’t feel like derp cuz of pen… dispersion doesn’t matter when you can butter

[rotund sonnet]

Early war us roundle :] draw it out on something like a pencil and paint in with small brush

[safe acorn]

Screw it imma ball with the Tornvagn

[blissful cave]

👉😎👉

[safe acorn]

I just checked the base armor stats
Literally Peter Griffin pulling his fat behind so that the front looks good

I actually suffer from 3 caliber rule against 150mm from my side hull

[blissful cave]

#blitz-art message M2 Medium is finished

[crisp jacinth]

E100 can be so unhittable sometimes and imagine nearly 8000 enemy fire going waste

[hasty garnet]

Idk how i did that

[jade pewter]

8 jpz100 💀💀💀

[lyric copper]

its called bots that dont kill you

[jagged basin]

U lucky
Bots that kill themselves let u win

Caliban feels like tier 8 KV 2
Plz buff accuracy and reload
Armour and speed sucks already

[lyric copper]

its not meant to be battle effective lol

[jagged basin]

Yea actually
It's an entertaining tank
With hesh

[blissful cave]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FW5JoGn88cQ idk why I even bother getting hopeful that we’ll get normal camos in a pass anymore :/

Gotta pass on this one
-bad camos
-camo is for a tank I don’t use or even have
-camo itself isn’t good
-no T40

Like I never use AT 15 but dang that camo was flawless

[solid gate]

ill play Call of Duty instead then, i was abt to return to the game

[blissful cave]

I thought that during this whole resistance theme we’d get military-like camos but I guess not,we got one and that’s it
What we get instead is red and blue fire,grandmas cookies and more techno futuristic camos as if we needed more of those :/

[solid fractal]

If people weren’t buying them WG wouldn’t offer them 🤷‍♂️

The same goes for crates as well

[blissful cave]

A ton of people agree the (regular) camos are bad people just still buy them for the other stuff like the legendary camo and resources

[tight minnow]

A Tiger II and a little Panther

[solid gate]

@brittle cape i think this one

[brittle cape]

Ah thx

Ofcourse the only german line i dont like gets the skin...

Im kimd of tired of these stupid tanks i dont play

[blissful cave]

Yea the choices for tanks need to be a little better the skin for the spy pass was amazing but why on AT 15 of all tanks

CS-53 at least a bad tank took the bullet for us in getting the awful grandmas neighborhood skin

[sour bane]

tiger rated e for enormous

[blissful cave]

Christmas Tiger II and Snatch Charioteer were really good tho

[sour bane]

if they release it on vk 100 01 p like some mauerbrescher camo i'll buy it no cap

this is peak camo to me

[blissful cave]

Yooo

Idk if there’s any tech tree tier 8’s I can think of that I like and need a camo other than Pershing
The other ones I like already have camos and good ones too like ISU-152 and IS-3

[sour bane]

get super pershing its really nice also a good camo should be on the pantera

[blissful cave]

Oh wait I forgot T32 I love that tank and it has no legendary camo

[solid gate]

is the T32 in blitz bad, many ppl said it was

[blissful cave]

If premiums are allowed then I can think of SO many tanks with awful camos that need a second chance like Tornvagn and Astron Rex

[wary summit]

It's workable and very strong armour

The only complains are the gun that's average and meh mobility

[blissful cave]

Lmao no don’t listen to em the tank is so fun to play and I’m enjoying it
I don’t like that they took away the ERA item so that makes it a little worse than it used to

[solid gate]

which tank line should i skip to, i can only do one since i have around 600k fexp

[tight minnow]

Wargaming must put a legendary camouflage for the VK 168.01 (P)

[blissful cave]

Every tier 8 (including premiums) I think need a camo or a better one
Pershing
Astron Rex
M IV Yoh
T32
TS-5? The one it has is alright tho
Tornvagn

Lmao that’s just like all US ones all my other ones that I like have good camos already like the other Swedish tanks (Emil 1 and 1951,Lansen and Strv 81’s is good even tho I don’t have it) and my Soviet and German tanks pretty much all have good realistic ones like Tiger II Löwe Elefant ISU-152 IS-3

Charlemagne’s is not bad but could be better

[solid gate]

i only have 2 for prog 46 and T77

[blissful cave]

Progettos new one is nice but I won’t draw gamble for it I don’t feel like being screwed into the last pull like they always do

And T77’s is alright I got the camo from a US container I put it on sometimes but mostly just play it default

[solid gate]

i spent 9.5k gold in total for prog + camo

[blissful cave]

Oh if its for progetto and the camo then yes worth it
I already have the progetto so I’d be just pulling for the camo

[solid gate]

sadly my stats in the prog isnt good although i really love its performance
since i always have to go frontline and die

[blissful cave]

You wanna know what tank I’ve just been loving playing lately? T54E1 absolutely underrated tank

[solid gate]

ye i enjoyed it but have to sold it for credit to buy T57

[blissful cave]

Lmao same I really need to figure out how to play it,when it does work tho it’s so good

[blissful cave]

Same I remember when grinding for T57 thinking the tank was really fun but then sold it when I bought T57
I came back to it like dang idk why I ever sold it I love this tank

Also when making a tank of the day post on it few days ago I found out that one of the two T54E1’s ever built actually still exist and I’m so happy

[solid gate]

when it worked perfectly

[blissful cave]

Usually most of these oscillating turret prototypes and then others get scrapped like T57 Heavy and T77 and T54E2 was scrapped too

[digital crypt]

how is it possible that after 18k exp, with every booster on, i got only 1% of crew?

[solid gate]

amx also

[blissful cave]

T57 Heavy turrets being scrapped is devastating

[solid gate]

why tho?

M4A2

[blissful cave]

Idk they just made them tested it and then removed the turret scrapped it and then sent the M103 hull back to go be used as an M103

[sour bane]

dino tornvagn is bad I WANT THAT SH TO BE FILLED WITH ERA

[blissful cave]

YES

[solid gate]

Tornvagn MBT in game when

should i skip straight to E100? i have a camo for it

[sour bane]

nah bro era on 777 made it look like the t72B3 at home

[blissful cave]

Nautical made this baller ah design and its perfect

[sour bane]

add swedish meatball on the commander's hatch and i'd smash.

[blissful cave]

Also I’m gonna try and make a model of this irl I got a second Tornvagn

[digital crypt]

how is it possible that after 18k exp, with every booster on, i got only 1% of crew?

[solid gate]

lol

[solid gate]

where did u buy the tornvagn model

[blissful cave]

3Dscale.de

[solid gate]

Is there any other tank you'd like to see like that?

damn, but i dont have a 3d printer sadly😭

[blissful cave]

Neither do I the guy just makes them and you can buy em

I actually requested Tornvagn to be added and he made it
I requested lansen and Kpz 70 P too but he hasn’t made those yet

[solid gate]

which size did u buy them

[blissful cave]

#blitz-art message I just finished this M2 yesterday

[blissful cave]

My first Tornvagn I got in 1/32 scale
The one I’ll make MBT is 1/48 that’s the size I get for most tanks I just got the first Tornvagn in 32 because favorite tank heheh big

[solid gate]

ohh

[blissful cave]

48 is actually the biggest size for most tanks I just specifically requested 1/32 scale for Tornvagn so it’s an exception,Kranvagn just happened to have it too

[solid gate]

can u show me how big is 48

[blissful cave]

About that big
(Ignore the IS-2’s and KV-2 those are 1/43)

[solid gate]

quite big, but i also have to buy paints too, are they too expensive?

[blissful cave]

Also idk if they’re to scale with eachother because there’s no way M2 medium is taller than IS-7 and Strv 103 that big

[blissful cave]

They’re actually super cheap (compared to model tanks the same size)

[solid gate]

can you show me some brand? and the type of paint u use

[blissful cave]

I use spray paint
Either spray on coats or spray it in a cup and use a brush/sponge

[solid gate]

ohhh

[blissful cave]

Caliban I used regular arts and crafts paint tho some cheap stuff not anything special

[solid gate]

guess ill ask my dad permisson to buy the T57 since it's my fav tank

[blissful cave]

I’m still impressed with this how did I make this?

[solid gate]

It was the freedom and democracy emanating from the tank

[blissful cave]

T57 heavy was actually the first one I got for these
Its amazing for getting obscure tanks with no models (or official models are so expensive like IS-7 and T95)

I got T95 AE phase 1 and M6A2E1 in the basement too ready to be painted
And that Tornvagn too

[solid gate]

But anyway, that's a nice work

[blissful cave]

Random weird thing I noticed
On T54E1 for camos that have different patterns for the hull and turret the flat hatch on the top of turret is treated as part of the hull

Wait did they JUST fix it?
I literally saw this when looking for a camo to put on my T54 like 2 days ago

[solid gate]

@blissful cave should i use normal spray paint for tamiya model?

[blissful cave]

I used spray paint on my T-26 model and it looks great

[solid gate]

you got any model recommendation below 30$?

[blissful cave]

Spray paint is basically just a giant “paint bucket tool” version of an airbrush and then when using it with a brush it’s just pure liquid
The best part is that it dries super flat no blobbyness nothing all details show through

[blissful cave]

Uh idk take a look at his site and you can find pretty much any tank and if it’s over 30 then just go one scale down I got M6A2E1 and AE Phase 1 in 1/56 and since they’re huge they look about the same size as like my M2 medium which is a small tank in the biggest size

[solid gate]

i mean tamiya tank model

[blissful cave]

Oh then idk I don’t really get those

[solid gate]

guess ill get the m4a3e8 then

[blissful cave]

I bought a completed and painted tamiya M4A3E8 from someone for like 30 bucks

[solid gate]

i feel like it took away the fun when modeling tho

[blissful cave]

I hate assembling model tanks I just wanna paint em
That’s another reason I love the 3D printed ones so much I still have to remove all the support scraps which I absolutely HATE but it’s a lot less worse than gluing each and every microscopic piece together

I wasn’t able to make a tank of the day post yesterday so now I gotta make 2 :/

[flint glade]

Nice aprill fools 😦

[odd river]

I just got the Vk 100.01 (P) and that thing got 1150 dpm stock with 75% crew 💀💀

I know it's good fully upgraded but it's gonna be a tough grind

[sterile tendon]

Any1 can recomend a usa tech Line except for destroyer?

[odd river]

Sheridan line is fun, M-6-YOH is probably the best imo

[sterile tendon]

Ty think im gonna go for m-6

[safe acorn]

Man Lekpz is fun

[night bluff]

what is that??????????? looks like is4 with weird turret and double shot lol

[flint glade]

Is a ST II line of Wot PC

[night bluff]

ok lol, only on pc not blitz?

[flint glade]

Only wot console and wot pc never in blitz 😦

[night bluff]

😭

[blissful cave]

In blitz we won’t get artillery,wheels or double barrel guns (helsing is just some gimmick we won’t get the actual double barrel tanks)

[night bluff]

blitz maps are way to small for arty

[blissful cave]

Yea I said we won’t get artillery

[night bluff]

😄

[blissful cave]

For T54E1 should I do vents or calibrated

[odd cove]

i have cali on mine 🤷‍♂️

[wary summit]

Run cali

Vents feels a bit underwhelming for it

[blissful cave]

Yea I switched it and idk if there’s much of a difference maybe I’ll notice if I fight tier 10 heavies more tho
But the 0.3 seconds longer clip load I don’t notice at all

It’s not that often I run out of shells and still need to fight I either am able to back away and hide or come out to finish someone off

[marble path]

I'm going to be working towards the Leopard 1 next, what's the easiest way to progress through the line?

[errant oak]

Easy i think Indienpanzer

But RU and SP1C are fun

[hidden elk]

Leopard -> VK 28.01 -> SP I K -> Ru 251 -> Leopard PT A -> Leopard 1

[blissful cave]

I didnt get to make a TOD post yesterday so yesterdays tank is SU-76

And for the Easter special todays tank is the AMX 40 duck tank

Also this is a real product you can buy from wargaming…absolutely incredible

[marble path]

Thanks, I've heard the VK30s are trash compared to the alternatives

[dapper arrow]

What’s the best tier x td

[marble path]

I'll stick to the light line and decide once I get to the Indienpanzer stage

[violet timber]

113gft

[dapper arrow]

I’m thinking about getting the 183 for fun but like I don’t have any other tds so it would be kindve pointless

[blissful cave]

Yea don’t go for 183 if it’s one of your first the AT line is awful and 183 is purely a meme tank it’s not really a tank to do good in,just exists to ruin peoples day

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave it's 2am at my place
Listening to the Kharkiv theme for WoT is activating every caffeine molecule in my body

[dapper arrow]

I would just free exp the entire line

But yeah your right def

[blissful cave]

I did that line because I wanted Tortoise and I free XP’d a good amount but I still played it a lot too and can say the AT’s are not fun

[safe acorn]

AT15 and Tortoise are worth playing imo

[dapper arrow]

Tortoise is ok ig. Easy to pen the hatch. When I play stb or m60 tortoise is easy

[safe acorn]

Well you have pointed out the obvious weak spot for all of the AT lines there so people who grind should get used to it at that point

@blissful cave I forgot the Krupp Waffenträger operated on a 140hp engine
Whilst still carrying the KwK 43

[blissful cave]

Yea they have like impenetrable armor but that’s all thrown out the window with their lighthouse cupola

Also seeing tier 4 and 5’s try to fight an AT-2 is always the funniest thing

[safe acorn]

No way
Ain't no way
It moves 20kmh on road despite it having 0 armor whatsoever

I know the Borsig Waffenträger if true, would've been made using a modified Jagdpanzer 38T chassis

Which would've made it abysmal in movement

[frozen forge]

pl tank

[native bough]

Is this lucky and btw is the tank good?

[blissful cave]

No way that happened

[blissful cave]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-got-an-idea-junkrat-over-watch-video-game-gif-17492139

I was originally thinking some tan color base (sort of like default) and googling desert camo ideas mostly went for the same look but looking at in game camos for inspiration I came across my Sheridan

Grey base with “sand stream” camo

[solid gate]

Looks good

[nocturne mirage]

Trully comedy at its finest. I swear sometimes how these complaints carried out in secret diaries etc, is like kids complaining at a cresh to the teacher about a bully 🤣 . Once again Hitler doomed them.

[rotund gull]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-pipe-limited-release-3d-all-stars-gif-20867105

[nocturne mirage]

You are a disgrace to the italian race mario!! "not Vegeta"

[blissful cave]

I’m questioning if I should get the wave breaker camo for Sheridan it’s on sale and looks really cool but I also like this camo a lot and it’s my only tank that has it so idk

[nocturne mirage]

wavebreaker

[rotund gull]

https://tenor.com/view/what-why-huh-steve-harvey-confused-gif-3998567347368525851

[blissful cave]

Also because of the update coming I bought back my T-22 medium and T2 light I think they’re alright but would probably sell again later idk

[nocturne mirage]

Italians get it not non italians

[robust orchid]

M-VI-Yoh, yay or nay?

[blissful cave]

Yeees

[sharp rampart]

Yoh is Good i Grind it too

[wary summit]

The Type 74 should be retired nationwide as of the 31st March deadline

It's half a miracle Japan managed to flog it around for 5 decades and absolutely doggone the R&D of its successor

[safe acorn]

Type 74 taken out of service
F-4EJ Kai still flying

Ngl having an F-4E Pilot work with guys piloting the F-15Js and F-2s is on the same level as Doc Hudson and Lightning McQueen

[wraith burrow]

Equipment for Emil
Yes/No?

[lyric copper]

why would you take enhanced armour on a thing that has paper armour

[wraith burrow]

Ok so improved assembly instead?

[deep belfry]

It's curious to think that at one point WG worried about adding historically correct decals and markings to some vehicles.

In wot pc German tanks have their Balkenkreuz by default, even Chinese or Soviet tanks have a red star

[valid gale]

This was their weird attempt to draw in new players to the game

You may notice there’s a trend very weirdly entitled players are willing and go to extreme lengths to obtain “accurate” camos or complain for accuracy

[blissful cave]

Idk why they have markings ONLY on some tier 1-3 tanks and then no others they look really good

[rotund gull]

@blissful cave Hidded Tanks in the next biger Update for PC but he has the Finnish Emblem

its only testing

[blissful cave]

YEEEEEAH!!!

https://tenor.com/view/suomi-finland-hockey-jääkiekko-finnish-gif-21422865

[deep belfry]

They must have simply forgotten about it (it's below Tier V anyway) or as the guy above said it was just bait to attract tank nerds

[valid gale]

Like I said it was to attract new players because the highly detailed models with the features on them scream “accuracy” but it quickly falls apart because lmao they don’t pay attention to that anyways

[deep belfry]

In other news, LESTA is cooking very hard

[blissful cave]

And then they get to tier 5+ where the pure nonsense made up EU tanks come in and normal looking camos are scarcer than water in a desert

Because yeah wargaming I’ve always wanted to make my tank covered in cookie trays truly a dream come true

[deep belfry]

The nation camouflages wouldn't be so bad if they also painted the track bearings/wheels. Or at least a measly star/balkenkreuz by default

[blissful cave]

Yea just when some marking doesn’t need to be the full on ones 10TP/14TP just some marking like a big star for US tanks or w

[deep belfry]

Sad

At least Jagtiger will have pbr in the next update

[blissful cave]

Oh T34 I’m excited about

[rotund gull]

An the 1776 version

[blissful cave]

Made no sense they didn’t give it PBR when T30 got it they’re essentially the same tank apart from the gun and counterweight plate on the back

[blissful cave]

YEEEEEAH!!!

[deep belfry]

T29 in a corner:

[blissful cave]

The turret looks different for that one because fully upgraded it has the things on the sides while T30/34 are basically the same

[deep belfry]

I see

Now that I think about it, the same thing may happen with the Jagtiger 8.8

[rotund gull]

When WG introduced HD graphics in the big brother, the whole engine was updated. With update 1.0 there were not only new HD models that were tested before like Tiger 1 and maps there was a new engine. Blitz will surely get such an update if not bad luck.

For 6 Years ago, ah the Time is go

[deep belfry]

With some luck maybe

It is somewhat inconsistent that the graphics of the game in general are improving halfway

Although I suppose that WG does not want to launch an update that weighs several gigabytes of data overnight.

[rotund gull]

Idk what Wg makes in Future but a new Enging looks better for all.

[blissful cave]

Yea like it makes no sense when a PBR tank exists and another that would use the exact same model aside from a small detail or two doesn’t get it too

Like IS-2 shielded is PBR but IS-2 Berlin is pretty bad quality all they’d need to do is remove the shields and then add the marking

[deep belfry]

WG would rather take a tank from the tech tree, give it a few tweaks, and sell it as a new collectible tank than give PBR textures to the tech tree tank in question.

[rotund gull]

I was wondering about the BP/ Seasion tanks or identical tanks like Elefant / Ferdinand

[blissful cave]

Or the opposite where jagdtiger will get it but jagdtiger 8.8 which is same tank different gun doesn’t
Or T30 and T34 (T34 is getting it now tho)

Like I bet when T-34-85 gets it the Rudy won’t :/

[deep belfry]

U-Panzer and VK 30.01/02 D

[blissful cave]

Ranger and T21

[deep belfry]

Skoda PJ-S has PBR but the KV-1S and the VK 30.01 P do not have it.

It's so inconsistent

Pershing and T26E5/E3

The list just goes on and on.

[blissful cave]

Like they’ll just make one of these “same tanks” be one of the slots in a later update as if they couldn’t group it at the same time as the other

[deep belfry]

I just remembered that the Czech T-34/100 had PBR textures before those two

[deep belfry]

It has to be a super random roulette, I don't remember in which update they gave HD textures to the VAE in the Chinese tree

[blissful cave]

Basically when they announce new PBR a tank that could’ve just used the same model sort of “wastes a slot”

[robust orchid]

Obj. 907, yay or nay?

[languid spindle]

Has anyone played this :)!?

[wary summit]

The last premier of the USSR was still alive when that event came around

[blissful cave]

Speaking of USSR a random thing I’ve noticed is that the Soviet tanks are really good at having realistic camos pretty much all their tier 10s legendary camos are realistic (even if they got a bad one later their original is still normal looking like IS-3 and IS-4)

Surprisingly US I’d say has this too all their tier 10’s have a realistic or normal looking camo
Oh wait no nvm that only applies to tech trees all the premiums camos are very unrealistic

[scarlet quest]

¿What the hell? Does the t28 htc have a turret?.......¿how?

[robust orchid]

Technically not a turret, but it does have a very traversable gun mantlet

[frosty holly]

The H-combat on the T34 id say its pretty realistic

[blissful cave]

Yees
Just for the 10’s tho

[blissful cave]

I didn’t even know T28 HTC’s “turret” was breakable

[scarlet quest]

Ahhh I understand thank you

[frosty holly]

Like US only have a few non tech tree tier 10s

[blissful cave]

Yea but I was just saying it’s a wack coincidence that all the tech trees have realistic/normal ones
And all the premiums don’t the only ones with no realistic legendary camo are those 4 specifically

[meager spindle]

Semi traversable turret

[frosty holly]

Because most of the non tech tree mostly didnt exist and wg can make whatever camo they desire

[blissful cave]

They’re real
Concept 1B and XM66F are real tanks

[frosty holly]

Only in paper

[blissful cave]

T110E4 isn’t real tho

[blissful cave]

T110E3 E5 and M-VI-Yoh were concept only

[scarlet quest]

It must be the only tank to have that?

[blissful cave]

Many tanks have not fully rotating turrets like FV4005 XM66F Minotauro (+ more)

[frosty holly]

You have more knowledge in tanks than me so, i dont have a say here

[blissful cave]

I am too powerful in real vs fake tanks

Mainly because I’ve gone insane from having to know which are actually real or made up that I dedicated this entire list of carefully looking at every tank and trying to determine with as much certainty as possible if they’re real or not
List isn’t perfect but I have it

[frosty holly]

Yeah, why is your pfp mika tho (i watch gup)

[blissful cave]

A tank is only marked real if there’s solid or very good evidence it’s real

[frosty holly]

What flavour of autism is this (positively)

[blissful cave]

I absolutely love Mika the Finnish character in panzer and is extremely important to me : )

[scarlet quest]

Ahhhh how stupid I am xd I was very surprised that the t28 htc had that

[frosty holly]

It has like 30° in each side

[blissful cave]

Wanna hear a funky fact? T28 HTC is real

[blissful cave]

I have no idea
But the kind that makes me know an insane amount about tanks

[scarlet quest]

[frosty holly]

I relate

[blissful cave]

The thing is I don’t really know where this design came from because the original first drawing of T28 looked different

[blissful cave]

The real US heavy tech tree would be like
T1-M6-M6A2E1-T28-T30-M103

But then T30 can be bunched up in that whole group of T29 30 34 and 32

If you’re wondering what happened to T31…

You don’t wanna know

And T33 is a flamethrower Sherman

[frosty holly]

Ugly as hell

[safe acorn]

I really love the idea of Obj 906 having one of the stronger gun setups to exist in a light tank

[nocturne mirage]

I would personally help with that free of charge other than getting the tank for free without asking to be paid lol

[safe acorn]

@nocturne mirage the joy of facing Tiger II Hs in my M4A2 76 because snail can't do anything right

[nocturne mirage]

I hope you get a side shot hit or you aint doing anything to a tiger II frontally with a 76mm, but ye the snail gets it better than wot at least.

[safe acorn]

the snail doesn't
You used to be able to only face the Tiger II early turret models which you had a chance against

But for some reason snail thought M4A2/3 76s shouldn't face Panzer IV H and Js at all and moved them up to Panther A and Tiger II H area (where the Super M-51 Sherman and Lekpz M41 are also stuff you fight against)

[nocturne mirage]

Thats super weird with the performance characteristic chart the 76mm sherman was more closely comparable to the up gunned panzer iv Ausf j. WTh are they thinking? to few tanks maybe..mah🤷‍♂️

[safe acorn]

Yeah idk why
To make matters worse, if you're playing the Jumbo 75 Sherman
You can and will fight against Tiger II Hs and IS-2s which your armor now stands no chance against and you have no chance of fighting back

God forbid you meet a Jagdtiger with the 76 Shermans

[nocturne mirage]

Yes that is stupid, very dumb armour and gun should be the balancing factors and mobility a class of its own. That is very funny, but truth be told from you, are the maps really so open that the sherman in all their variants cant deal with a tiger ii or jagdtiger caught off guard? I am unaware of warthunder map construction

no decent amount of forests etc like it was in the bulge?

[safe acorn]

Yeah some maps in the 5.7-6.0 area is quite big now like Fields of Normandy and Volokolamsk

[nocturne mirage]

urban maps?

[nocturne mirage]

if there is sufficient cover and oppertune moments for flanks with coordinated "i know you rely on a nother player but still" reconnaisance maybe not so impossible

[safe acorn]

Cold War Alternative Chicago, Advance to the Rhine, American Desert
All those are still present

[nocturne mirage]

ok cool, but consider then relying on a spotter or recon tank like a m5a1 lightm m3a1, cromwell, crusaders etc for spotting

[shadow fable]

@blissful cave

[lyric copper]

likely april fools tbh

[shadow fable]

The BZ-176 was April fools

[lyric copper]

this could be as well

[blissful cave]

Frickn dammit you got me excited for a second (T_T)

[balmy compass]

April fools!!

[harsh elm]

i wont be surprised if the bz isnt actually an april fools joke and they just said it to be funny

[rotund gull]

na looks good for a April Fools but WG can added this tanks but we have in 7 Days new tanks The PL TDS on the Big Brother Version and this tanks are very nice with high DPM so WG added First the rino line and lookning witch line is coming muaahhhahahhahha and happy first April.

[lyric copper]

bro has never heard of punctuation

[safe cedar]

Jagdtiger is new levels of stupidity

[balmy compass]

Don’t worry he put a period at the end

[shadow fable]

💀

[frosty holly]

Autoloader e100😳😳
(Ik i accidentally left my VPN on)

[trail quest]

Can’t wait to see if the annihilator leaked nerf is real or not hopefully is.

[flint glade]

two aprill fools

[nocturne mirage]

Here is my April fools joke: Its April, APRIL FOOLS!

[safe acorn]

Don't really trust teammates in WT
But since America is literally spot, die, spawn in airplane it's expected to have many scouted vehicles anyways

[nocturne mirage]

Precisely

[safe acorn]

The fact that most matches people just are lobotomized in their M41s and T92s (or even worse I'm paired with Russia and their PT-76Bs) it's just a pain in the balls

[nocturne mirage]

I get it, well all the best for the future, if you spot a recon tank type like any miniature lights or low solhouette mediums like panzer iiis then tell the guy " here on out I am sticking with you" since logically warthunder being more realistic than wot, hes tank must have good spotting capabilities right off the bat, since they are reconnaisance types from the get go

Try it then come back and tell me how it went

[robust orchid]

I just got an idea for a historical camo, which may have already been discussed...but how about a Last Stand camo for the Tiger II? Based on historical events of the Red Army closing in on Berlin with the Germans throwing everything they've got just to slow down the eventual defeat

[safe acorn]

It doesn't work that way
Might just play low tier with my close friends at this point

It's like WoTB with how noone chats anything useful

[nocturne mirage]

Why doesnt it work that way lol? Thats a big flaw then, tanks werent just tanks, some hardly used their guns in anger at all, some had fake guns. Thats a terrible decision for a game like warthunder

[nocturne mirage]

I have one of the last standing tiger II camouflages if you want to see it

[safe acorn]

Reminds me of the WT cinematic of a Tiger II from SS Leibenstardt A.H doing a last stand near the Reichstag

[nocturne mirage]

Also they mostly deployed the now more abundant and reliable Panther Ausf As and further reliablly tweaked panther gs, just saying and funny enough there was an infamous duel between a panther and IS-2

[safe acorn]

And I realized how in WoTB and WT
One of my higher performing tanks is the Tiger I and II

Taking a break from WoTB and WT feels good
Even though I have 3 timed 200% research boosters I needa use before it expires on Wednesday for WT

[nocturne mirage]

Quite sad that armour is the deciding factor, not tactical decisions of your tank. P.s I saw how stupid the M4A3E2 or jumbos are in wt, thing takes a beading like it should, but damn incredible

[safe acorn]

And the gun
The guns feel great respectively for both games

And every time I play both of em I just remember Perfect Cell's battle theme of absolute curbstomping enemies

[safe acorn]

Teammates are so unreliable and matches are spawn-decided
No one even cares about winrate anymore

[safe acorn]

Mfw M4A3E2 76 fanatic meets IS-2 enjoyer

[nocturne mirage]

I personally never care about winrate, I care about using my tank like it was intended to be used and win my engagements that way

[safe acorn]

I had IS-3 but I've never played it there
Idk if it still holds up now with everyone using HEATFS and APDS

[bitter crystal]

how to play centurion guys?

[lyric copper]

hulldown

[deep belfry]

Well it's coming

[coarse blade]

Next decade

[fading mural]

Wat is that

I think i saw something like that todya in a battle

[toxic pawn]

swedish td

[zenith shadow]

Better not be another one of those april fools like the last year with artillery i swear we need that ingame

[solid fractal]

Check todays date

[toxic pawn]

bz were annnounced on april fools too ironically

[wary summit]

BZ would have been a much more logical addition than Swedish tds xd

[toxic pawn]

nahh the strv would be great

[zenith shadow]

So you are telling me thats april fools? But why? We need strv s1 or swedish tds in blitz one of the most requested tanks

[toxic pawn]

yep, noone asked for rinocrenete

[wary summit]

Too bad the engine and trying to make the suspension work would take too much work

[blissful cave]

We need Strv 103 not these nonsense fake EU tanks we’ve been getting like minotauro,VZ 55,CS 63 and now rinocerante

[toxic pawn]

frfr

[zenith shadow]

Eh some people wanted it not alot but here we get a rinceronte instead of Type 5 heavy or swedish tds.

[toxic pawn]

udes wpuld be good too tbh

[blissful cave]

Yees Strv 103 and UDES I love Swedish tanks we need more of em

[wary summit]

Good luck trying to code in pneumatic suspension

[zenith shadow]

If they get their team together and concentrated unlike being lazy it can happen

[blissful cave]

Also ignore the stupid angry birds pfp my cousin asked me to do it for April fools

[toxic pawn]

its easy (for strv) like the whole tank is an oscilating turret with no X axis

[wary summit]

Good luck with that xddd

[zenith shadow]

Im pretty sure this is in testing so they probably have the suspension put in

[wary summit]

Aha...

You don't know how it works

[zenith shadow]

Pretty sure WT mobile will get it quicker than wargaming will

[toxic pawn]

i know how it works in real life so i imagine that it would work like that in coding

[wary summit]

Can't wait to see that thing barely able to keep itself from tipping all over and waiting the half life of Uranium to get the gun stable and another fat button for mobile players

[odd cove]

imagine differently then

[toxic pawn]

no

[zenith shadow]

Im just curious as to why we cant have wheeled tanks in blitz

[deep belfry]

Abril fools was bz176

[lyric copper]

UDES and the S-Tank have the same issue of being cringe autobounce tanks

[deep belfry]

Strv It is currently in testing, they will probably release it after the rinoceronte

[lyric copper]

look at the date

[zenith shadow]

Yet thats coming to blitz and in testing right now

[wary summit]

1. Too fast to be useful
2. The wheels will either be the trolliest object or the most miserable
3. Matchmaker limit is definitely going to be fun with this one

[zenith shadow]

But why? Why cant we have the strv

[wary summit]

Are you dense or plain clueless

[zenith shadow]

Neither

[lyric copper]

1: autobounce is cringe
2: TDs as a class go against the natural flow of blitz
3: This game engine will struggle with suspension

[blissful cave]

How could anyone be stupid enough to be in favor of keeping on getting the dumb fakes instead do we really need more Vz 55’s and CS-63’s :/

Strv 103 is an absolutely iconic tank and should be added one way or another rather than going the cheap route of just making up tanks instead of animating the suspension

[violet timber]

The developers will do whatever they want to do

[zenith shadow]

Cringe? Thats an opinion
We have Wz 120-1g ft which has similar shape and already cracked.
We have helsing that does 2 shots annihilator has minigun like gun don’t understand where engine wouldn’t be able to struggle

[lyric copper]

the 120G doesnt use autobounce as its armour, and having the burst mechanic we have is way easier to implement than making sure the suspension system doesnt bug out people's older devices

[wary summit]

120gft atleast has a gun arch

The Strv doesn't

[zenith shadow]

Yes but it has sloped armor like strv. Also didn’t they end support on older devices?

[lyric copper]

you need a 121mm+ gun to overmatch the 103B on PC

which eliminates most heavies from the equation

and at long range whilst hulldown, it is going to be the most obnoxious thing to fight against

[wary summit]

Ending support on older devices =/= getting a better game engine

[violet timber]

The only map the Strv 103 series would be useful on would be dead rail

[orchid dagger]

Wonder how they will implement the dynamic suspension 🤔

[odd cove]

if*

[analog goblet]

I want to see a Swedish meds tho

[trail quest]

No udes for you

[analog goblet]

💀

[meager spindle]

It'd be most likely either speed based as to when it functions, or a consumable that can be toggled

[languid spindle]

@deep belfry And that's probably never the case

[steep summit]

TDs > arty

[eternal pivot]

ewww

[steep summit]

yes

[sage cloak]

Add arties but nerf their elevation and no overhead view. 💩

[steep summit]

no. maps are too small.

[sage cloak]

I think you missed the point.

[steep summit]

probably... imma hear u out..

[rotund gull]

https://tenor.com/view/cheguei-tcharam-didi-trapalhoes-ostrapalhoes-gif-7303219

[solid gate]

booooo

[safe acorn]

Literally make them HE slinging tank destroyers

[steel belfry]

WeeGee pls add ASU-57 as reward to next event🥹

[shadow fable]

To be far in the Strv gets into the game other tanks like the Kpz70 would get a suspension upgrade

[safe acorn]

if
And you also have to consider if WG even wants to implement it on the Kpfpz-70 and STB-1

[shadow fable]

I don’t see why not.

[safe acorn]

You don't see it
Idk if WG would share that commitment

[shadow fable]

We see it the console version.

[safe acorn]

That doesn't automatically mean WG would implement it here

[shadow fable]

Yeah. The could do what the did with WOW

[harsh elm]

they could just not add the suspension mechanic all together like how they didnt give the cs its speed mechanic

[blissful cave]

It needs it tho the tank was designed like entirely around it

Best idea would just be not making it a mechanic at all just simply treat the tank like an oscillating turret we have oscillating turret why not “oscillating hull”

[safe acorn]

Even without the suspension
The Kpfpz-70 is still workable

Trust me even in WT, no one uses that mechanic seriously

[blissful cave]

Funky fact T95E6 would be another tank that could get it
The T95 hull was tested with that suspension and it was able to work it wasn’t a staple feature just tested on a hull or something if I remember right

[safe acorn]

Even funnier fact if we're going that route
T95E6 should have even more armor with no speed tradeoffs since T95s experimented with early composite armor

[shadow fable]

Because they don’t mean it or use it, right. If you use it right you become a menace to the enemy team

[safe acorn]

No because it's something called a gimmick rather than something useful
Like Shtora-1, Dazzler Trophy systems or Laser Warning Receivers

[blissful cave]

Gonna start on my AE phase 1 soon

[safe acorn]

Or for the poor souls using Engine Smoke Screens

[shadow fable]

It a feature that those tank get. We have artillery tanks in the game and you can play them as AT

[meager spindle]

armored warfare somehow has the best suspension system

which makes it a genuinely useful thing

although japanese MBT's in WT basically live on using it

[shadow fable]

Exactly. It’s actually kinda cool they did because of the terrain they the would fight in

[safe acorn]

I thought it was late Russian light tanks
I mean it finally gives them depression

[blissful cave]

…now that I’m looking at it I think he sent the wrong size for the turret

[shadow fable]

No Russian tank has it.

[blissful cave]

The turret is one scale size smaller than the hull
AE Phase 0.9

[safe acorn]

BMP-3 does
And I think 2S25M has it as well
Obj 775 is a redundancy

[shadow fable]

Those are IFV

[safe acorn]

I don't think you need a 125mm cannon to fight specifically infantry