vehicles-discussion

[blissful cave]

What’s volumetric?

[valid gale]

Cus it is

[safe acorn]

Nah now you can't reliably pen the front at med range with the T-34-85
You could last time

[blissful cave]

In game Kpz 70 has a funny upper plate for some reason it’s sometimes easier to pen than the lower one

[valid gale]

It is thing gaijin sucks at doing armor for the sake of “balance”

[safe acorn]

Me when the soviet fuel tanks covering the ammo works 50% of the time

@valid gale @blissful cave search up Helldivers 2 main theme the next time you play WoTB

[hardy scaffold]

Since When can the Yoh still reverse with a destroyed engine, im assuming this is a bug since it doesn't say its part of its mechanic

[valid gale]

When your engine is destroyed in any tank you still cruise with whatever momentum you had left

[hardy scaffold]

ik that but it doesnt look like thats what happened

perhaps it is and it just looks weird to me, but it looks like bro is still reversing

[valid gale]

Cus he was reversing before you put the second shot into his engine , he kept moving backwards because of his momentum

The commander has a voice line for it “engine stalled! We can’t move!

[wary summit]

...That's how angles work?

Due to how short it is, the angle of the ufp would be less effective compared to the now more artificially angled lfp

[blissful cave]

Yea but I just think it’s weird that it’s upper plate is less armored (effectively) than it’s lower I can’t really think of any other tank that’s like that off the top of my head

[remote kindle]

Kpz in this game is weird.
Wotb’s ‘’kpz’’ is more the American version then the German version.

[thorny smelt]

Agreed

[wary summit]

There's the Tiger 2 for a start

[remote kindle]

I mean the german one had an autoloader, had way worse depression because of so. Not to matter of the suspension but eh. ( 4 depression )

[valid gale]

Both used them and had mostly identical layouts

The main differences were only in the engine

[remote kindle]

I believe the Americans had a 130mm gun for it tho.

[valid gale]

WTH never

[wary summit]

The only alternative gun ever considered for the MBT/Kpz-70 design was the German Rheinmetall 120mm gun

[violet timber]

Tiger 2 has this in some cases

[thorny smelt]

And a German engine (or did they use it already?)

Proposed specs for Rheinmetall 120 mm smoothbore gun
AP: 440 average damage, 250 mm pen, 10-11 seconds reload
prammo (APCR or HEAT): 400 or 380, 330 mm pen
HE: 640, 100 mm pen

[violet timber]

They were essentially the same aside from the engine and electronic systems

[valid gale]

KPZ-70 already had a different engine that was the sole difference between the MBT 70

[valid gale]

The RH-120 is the L44 btw

[jovial osprey]

Found a bug, was checking out a skin while my tank was in battle after it came out of battle it changed the amx 50

[valid gale]

Do you
Do you run the 90mm on the T49?

[jovial osprey]

I likebto suffer

[tiny dagger]

make the maus and tier 9 turtle better frontal armor.

remove turret armor from e100

[snow cypress]

It's fine, less RNG that way!

[blissful cave]

Out of the question mark concepts to be potential premiums I could see weapon X being one of them (usually ones with more information on them seem to be added rather than the most random TL’s like TL-7 has a more detailed description than like TL-2 and TL-4

Astron weapon X looks like this

Oh wait nvm it’s a smoothbore
Unless they change that

Astron Weapon X came before Astron Rex and came from the same idea

That “anti tank stuff is too good,armor won’t work anymore and it would be better to have a small mobile tank”

[split trellis]

Panther trust

[valid gale]

@wary summit dunked on a T90 pair rn

snuck up behind the rear of the T90 put 3 Hesh rounds into him destroying his turret and killing both crew members, T90A rushed me I tracked him and detonated his ammo rack

[wary summit]

Masterful gambit

[safe acorn]

I think WZ-132-1 is massively underrated

[rotund sonnet]

large kaboom caused by a water boiler

[frail dagger]

I know this story! One of em is a centurion ARVE

[valid gale]

Nah it’s funnier

Crewmemver was trying to clean it but sprayed gasoline over it apparently

[honest rampart]

Eyy that's indeed funny
Did they die?

[feral wave]

Just saw the survey question about the favourite nation. Germany is in the lead so can't wait for the Grille nerf.

[pearl girder]

give grille missile

[blissful cave]

Bruh you mean UDES 19?!

(Swedish light tank)

[blissful cave]

I am 99.9% sure that Czechoslovakia never designed any tank like that
Why not actually make it the UDES 19 instead Sweden has like no tech trees difference is they actually designed tanks

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave it's WG you're bargaining with

[blissful cave]

WG
❌Make another Swedish tech tree out of the experimental concepts they had in the Cold War era
✅keep trying to make up tanks for a nation that basically didn’t make anything other than the TVP line

[wary summit]

Arcade galore

[full blade]

Add M1A2 abrams to wot "mobile"

[wary summit]

We only have the M60 with just as it goes in 1960 and y'all be asking for something that skipped ~2 tank generations from it

[rotund gull]

🤔 Next Line for the PC Version.

[blissful cave]

https://tenor.com/view/tadc-the-amazing-digital-circus-pomni-silly-insane-gif-18128793820744951113

Me rn about to go insane
(WG is making more completely made up tanks instead of just adding real ones)

Are you F’ing with me? Star shaped cannon holes? Thing shoots star shaped ammo?

[rotund gull]

Idk the 10er Names come from WoWs from a Destroyer idk why makes this..

[blissful cave]

https://tenor.com/view/mugman-the-cuphead-show-mugman-angry-disbelief-denial-gif-26546058

[wary summit]

Then go back to WT

[blissful cave]

I don’t have a pc but I would play that game too
This game does concepts best tho idk why even make up tanks tho when there are so many concepts

Can’t play as my beloved Tornvagn in WT
But then can’t play my beloved BT-42 in blitz

[barren flare]

Hi

[blissful cave]

Yea now that I’ve seen WT never adds concepts I gotta admit I like blitz’s format better since I’m obsessed with that obscure stuff where else am I gonna get to play as the concept 1B,Kranvagn or TS-5
But it would be nice if we had old historic tanks too

[calm drum]

_.merlu._ was banned.

[safe acorn]

*which at best didn't even exist
That and it's WG, when historical accuracy is not considered

[safe acorn]

Man has not seen the recent Obj 292 event

[blissful cave]

Object 292 was built tho if one was actually built then its allowed in WT
They just never add tanks that were only concept like the Yoh tanks or something

[safe acorn]

Yeah because it'll be unbalanced at that point
Or given a level you don't wish to see it in

I still don't get why Tiger IIs were bumped up to face M103s and T32s

[thorn light]

Is Bofors a good tank?

[wary summit]

Only in a hulldown position

It's horrid everywhere else

[lyric copper]

good at boring you to death with its simplistic gameplay? yes

[blissful cave]

My favorite tank in existence
Tornvagn my beloved

[thorn light]

I like this tank too, and And i really want to have it

I have 81 patrs, im soooo close to have this beautiful tank

[blissful cave]

I made a neat model of it in winter camo

[thorn light]

I love it

[valid gale]

@wary summit

[wary summit]

Breh

[valid gale]

The grind on it is real

[meager spindle]

kpz 70 is from the 70's, that's the farthest wg has gone yet

[valid gale]

MK6:
Stb :1
M41D:

[meager spindle]

Chief and Type 74 are both within the 70's (but slightly newer yes), and the Maid i just completely forget the existence of

[blissful cave]

Tornvagn

[meager spindle]

paper

[blissful cave]

Still from the 70’s and late 70’s too the source says 1978

https://fromtheswedisharchives.wordpress.com/2018/09/17/choice-of-composite-armor-type-and-placement-1978/

[meager spindle]

but it wasn't made, were strictly talking produced in some form vehicles

[blissful cave]

Ah ok

[wary summit]

I'm referring to the year the specific version of this game's M60 went to service

[meager spindle]

ah, makes sense i read M60 assuming you only meant the base tank

[uneven knoll]

The latest version of a tank in game would either be the chieftain or the kpz 70 am I right?

[wary summit]

By original design, Chieftain since the Mk6 came around in 1975

In terms of upgrades, M41D which got it around the 90's

[blissful cave]

If you’re including concepts (ik you mainly mean actually built stuff tho) there are some 70’s stuff here too I’m pretty sure XM66 came from around M60A2 since it’s shown alongside a bunch of designs like it (like 5/8 or so designs in this batch are A2 looking ideas)
And Concept 1B is shown compared to M60A1 showing it was could’ve replaced it (they probably think about replacements after it’s already been around for a bit)

We have like no information about XM66F I don’t even think that’s its name but it did come from Question mark conference IV so I’d just need to see when that was again

[teal ridge]

u luv warplanes i think

[blissful cave]

?

[teal ridge]

its fells u know everything about tanks

u have books, leaked documents, models

[blissful cave]

Heheh yeees

Also surprisingly I can’t really find XM66 and Concept 1B in that Abrams book I just got
Everything else is in here tho like Yohs,TL-7,AE Phase 1,Astron,Chrysler nuclear tank and all these other ones

[teal ridge]

i know fact that russian modern tanks is smaller and easier to mass product unlike abrams and leopards

[blissful cave]

Those are like the only two that aren’t
But concept is 100% real and the XM66 I have reason to believe those images are real there’s just no other information on em

[teal ridge]

ur into older or modern tanks?

[blissful cave]

Older tanks but now my main interest is in all these postwar concepts
Tbh I don’t know much about modern tanks

So sort of like the middle I guess now

[teal ridge]

did M-VI-Yoh existed? cuz when i googled i only found world of tank info

and same with bz 75 just wonder if they existed or its developers fantasies

[blissful cave]

Yes all the Yohs are real concepts

[blissful cave]

BZ-75 is fake but it’s heavily based on the real WZ-122-4

Aka my favorite Chinese tank
It was an attempt to make a tank like the western countries kind not a Soviet influence one like they always do

[teal ridge]

chinese tank fells like modded american and ussr tanks

allright good night we can discuss tomorow if u want

[blissful cave]

Aight if there’s any tank stuff you want to know I might know

Oh yea tank of the day is T32
I was originally going to do this one yesterday but changed my mind to MBT-70

The true Heavy Pershing it’s just a giant version of the it, the E5 was simply Pershing with thick armor

[blissful cave]

https://fromtheswedisharchives.wordpress.com/2018/10/23/us-tank-concepts-no-1-1-b-1968/ this site has a good description of Concept 1,1A and 1B

[native terrace]

Which equipment should I buy for the t-44 as a F2P player? The problem is that the important modules (guns, turrets) are not in the way of progressing to T9.

Should I buy the or ignore them?

[rotund gull]

On Console a Modern tank

[real gulch]

They also have pillboxes

[rotund gull]

what??

[real gulch]

pillbox T1 to T4

[blissful cave]

Imagine I just keep the post as this
(Placeholder text to save the image for the draft)

[lyric copper]

its more of the T26E5's even chonkier brother

[granite abyss]

I have both IS-7 and Type 71 researched. Which should I buy first? (I already have several tier X's.)

Just kind of limited on credits right now is all

[lyric copper]

Type 71

[blissful cave]

Idk how I never asked before but what was the September 19th incident

[safe cedar]

Just realized.

If you type "Surbaissé" in the magnifying glass in #general-blitz-discussion you can see basically all my alts.

[granite abyss]

Thanks

[lyric copper]

clan event incident

[blissful cave]

Ok and what happened in that?

[safe cedar]

WG denied top clans rewards for being cheating turdlets

[violet timber]

Basically top clans would rig the match maker using platoons to ensure that they got more wins than clans who were actually playing fairly

[blissful cave]

Oh yea i remember that I was out for like over a week to Pyhä Luosto where I had like no internet the whole time so all the clan event drama was just something I saw when I got back

[lyric copper]

• rotating players so they could get more games

[violet timber]

And then tried to claim that they had done it all fairly even though they blatantly broke wg’s intentions for the event

[blissful cave]

Everyone:arguing over rigging matches,tryharding all day and night,accusing eachother of cheating and making the game in a state of chaos for like two weeks
Me:

Dang was it actually that bad where a majority matches would be unplayable with clans platooning to rig wins

[rich fulcrum]

I never experienced any of the rigging, but I was against a platoon from [BOPE] at least every 7/10 battles (one of the top clans on NA)

[proven lion]

What are your guys opinion to the Grille 15

[halcyon lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-meme-dwa-biggest-itsthebiggestpieceofshitiveeverheard-gif-27093531

[proven lion]

LOL

[blissful cave]

Eh not really a fan of its design,history or its playstyle so not really interested in going for it

Something like Ho-Ri I got because I think the history is cool but playing it I remembered how I hate “sit and camp TD’s”

[proven lion]

Off topic but the Caliban is good and also bad, I wish they had 2 shots like on PC

[blissful cave]

That’s like the 3 things that go into if I will play a tank
Is the history behind it cool
Does it look cool
Is it fun to play

[halcyon lotus]

it having two-shot will obliterate tier 8

[proven lion]

Yes but like the devs said a while ago for guide park Fv183 and FV4005 “they shoot once and die without having a chance to reload” this goes the same for the Caliban and any other high dmg tanks

[blissful cave]

Usually why I just don’t touch fake tanks because they gurantee that they don’t have one of them so they have to look really cool AND be really fun to play (and fantasy never looks cool to me)
Because the biggest reason why I’ll play certain tanks doesn’t exist

Like I’d rather play a tank that’s one of my favorites irl even if it’s bad over a some OP meta tank that’s a fake and have zero attachment to and just sell them

[full blade]

I need help for KV-15 armor to do well with it

[violet timber]

Do you mean KV-5?

Or KV-13?

[blissful cave]

Yea for me it’s like a tank needs to check off at least two to be something I’ll play often

[halcyon lotus]

think he means KV-1S

[balmy compass]

Be a chad and frontline Grille, still works today albeit not as well as before

[kind galleon]

How Does Ammo Rack Hit Chances To Tier Higher Tanks Like 1% ?

If Higher Tier Tanks Got Shot And Exploded By Ammo Rack, Which Penetration To Be Shot?

[lyric copper]

what

[kind galleon]

Unlike Tier 10 Tanks On Ammo Racked Alert IS-7, BZ-75 and 60TP Lewandowskiego

Which Armor Can Ammo Rack Explode To Be Shot?

[lyric copper]

oh great its an anggael viewer

[kind galleon]

They Said Never Buy That Tanks Cause Ammo Racked Alert

[meager spindle]

Why Are You Capitalizing Every Single Word In Your Messages

[kind galleon]

because its uk before us later of language

[meager spindle]

i have never seen someone from the uk type like that

[lyric copper]

as someone from the UK you need some special glitched keyboard to do that

[blissful cave]

It throws me off completely💀

[halcyon lotus]

seeing someone type Like This makes me so mad, it’s unreadable

[harsh elm]

dont buy the is-7 or 60tp despite them being 2 of the stronger heavies in the game !!!

[safe acorn]

@blissful cave nice how WG did the snail move and are selling the Elefant as a separate vehicle

[blissful cave]

Oh yea I remember that leaked a long time ago what ever happened to that

[safe acorn]

Idk but got news from droodles blitz bot about it

[nocturne smelt]

That’s right! Buy the VZ 55! A tank with strong ammorack! Reticle calibration that doesn’t ever screw you! As well as a gun with 10 more alpha than is7! See? All Ws!!

Forgot to add the redeeming quality is has that its lowest glacis as tall as the Burj Khalifa!

[valid gale]

@wary summit M829A3 researched

[honest rampart]

Pls keep hating on the Vz. 55 and Vz. 51, the less people play it the easier it'll be for me to ace them.
Both of them are quite rare yet rlly good, just a bit generic, so it's great for aces xD

[rotund gull]

[hazy plinth]

Cool

[kind galleon]

the vk 45.02 the tier 7 germany heavy tank, what is that tank brought? Tech Tree or Premium Tank

[thorny smelt]

You mean VK 45.03?

[kind galleon]

Yes, what is brought for? Is it tech tree or premium tank

[thorny smelt]

A premium tank

[little jackal]

Add Chrysler nuclear tank in the game

[kind galleon]

Ok i knew it, when i battle tier 7 tanks. Like i saw vk 45.03 in 25% chance during start, thanks for question

[valid gale]

Concept 1B isn’t related to abrams despite the incredible similarity

[blissful cave]

The book contains like everything leading up to Abrams including question mark tanks,T95 medium,M60A2 something not being mentioned is a bit odd

.
We didn’t get Swedish tanks

[thorny smelt]

Stridsvagn 103B 🙏

[blissful cave]

They just announced the new tech tree and it’s Italian

[thorny smelt]

Yup. Straight from PC.

[blissful cave]

No Strv or UDES😔

[valid gale]

Concept is much more obscure but it’s worth to note it’s papers do exist

[blissful cave]

Yees I do have those

[solid gate]

What tanks do you like most for rating?

[full blade]

No KV-15 soviet tank IV

[honest rampart]

Why do you play low tiers?

[tame ridge]

Bruh wth

Should i even get the gun or the speed

[honest rampart]

Engine

[thorny smelt]

Le gun

[honest rampart]

I have something far, far more important then the top gun and engine

Equipment
Equipment
Equipment
Equipment
Provisions
Provisions
Provisions
Provisions

[tame ridge]

It gose as fast as AT 15

[honest rampart]

goes*
as THE AT 15*

Maybe, but you won't do anything without equipment and provisions

[tame ridge]

Well frist game

[honest rampart]

Meh
Should try to do at least 3k in tier IX-X

[honest rampart]

👍

[tame ridge]

@honest rampart hello i just got the gun i would like to like which is better high cali or faster reload?

[hazy plinth]

@cold kelp I used to play KV-2 bonk with 50% crew and nothing else than HE ammo

Pain... Stock engine... So bad pen and RL

[night scroll]

I think Bz-75 should buff turret front Armour because a lot of people told me that HEAT from Mt can penetration easily.

[hazy plinth]

Mt?

[wary summit]

@valid gale One more step to Challenger 2-kind

[odd cove]

nvm

[fervent sandal]

what do yall think about action x

[violet timber]

It’s alright

[fervent sandal]

i feel like it needs a slight buff

[violet timber]

Nah it’s fine

[valid gale]

Yooo

[candid ingot]

Type 5 Ka-Ri (TD) coming soon

[honest rampart]

Faster reload (gun rammer)

[blissful cave]

Hull is real?

[rotund sonnet]

Its probably based of it

[blissful cave]

Yea it looks a lot taller in the real one

I didn’t even see the double barrel the first time

Also I haven’t looked into it yet but would it be safe to assume rinoceronte a flat out fake

I’ll see if I can find anything if there’s a chance it’s based on something real but so far I doubt it

[blissful cave]

I got that pack with the removed tanks and in my first game in the panzer II G I got 1.4K damage and an ace lmao

Waiter! waiter! More removed tanks please : )

I hope with low tier tanks more widely available there will actually be more incentive to play those tiers too and it’ll be more fun

[frigid coral]

what is daaaaaaat???????

[frigid coral]

at that point engine

2

oh

[cold thunder]

cs-63 any good?

[lyric copper]

for grinding ace badges? yes

for actually being good? other tanks exist and actually do much better

[cold thunder]

cool thanks, should i got for leo 1 then?

[lyric copper]

are you any good at the game?

[cold thunder]

im decent i guess

[lyric copper]

people can never admit if theyre bad

[solid gate]

If I create all missons, rating and tournaments, how much gold do I need to spend to get the maxed out swindler? Is it enough to sell a tier 10 collector?

[lyric copper]

no

since every snippet is 1 gold, you need 23k gold

[solid gate]

Sounds really bad

[blissful cave]

Making a meme rn about going insane over fake tech trees but during the making of this I found out DS Pnz is actually based on something real being an “inaccurate documentation drawing of 14TP” so the design technically came from somewhere

And BUGI is based on a fake document but was put into the game

[blissful cave]

I probably can’t post it here because it swears and it’s a video but it’s soo funny

[placid ingot]

Can anybody with enough tank knowledge tell me did the M5 Stuart had blocks or whatever that’s called around the turret?

[teal ridge]

why u want to know?

[placid ingot]

Something like this,

[placid ingot]

I had an mandela effect

[solid gate]

Isn't the box on the other side of the turret?

[violet timber]

Look at the M5A1

[placid ingot]

Im not sure

[placid ingot]

I still can’t find it

[blissful cave]

It’s in the Chinese tech tree

[placid ingot]

I know but I can’t find the blocks lol

[prime linden]

Hi, why do i get damage too when jumping on enemy tank? Would be more fun if only the tank below gets damage. I think in wot is like that? So why different in blitz?

[hidden grove]

i have 10k gold rn, i already have 2 good premiums for farming (keiler & chrysler K), should i keep on saving up (17-20k) to buy a high tier premium/collecter or is the 10k bundle with bourrasque worth it?
edit : whats the bourrasque's credit coeff? i can't find it anywhere online...

[harsh elm]

if you want a really good tier 8 medium with a clip the bourrasque isnt a bad option at all

[hidden grove]

but is it better to save up for a greater tank?

[harsh elm]

if you alr have a good tier 8 premium then yes

[hidden grove]

i mean of course you cannot make the decision for me, i understand but if you are a more advanced player, what do you think

thats the bundle in question btw. I know the 2nd tank sucks but i can still sell it for 500k credits so eh

[blissful cave]

I finally finished it and it’s the funniest thing I really wish I could send it

[nocturne sage]

What are y’all thoughts on the m103

[blissful cave]

It’s a cool tank

[nocturne sage]

But game wise

[blissful cave]

T110E5 lost reactive armor which made M103 lose it which nerfed it pretty badly when it was already an eh tank

[violet timber]

Pretty good tbh

[distant nymph]

What are those heard? I've never seen them and I've seen my fair share of obscure prototypes and concepts

[rotund sonnet]

first one is Letak light tank second one is a spaa with dual 57mm on a t34 85 hull

[honest rampart]

The M41D is fine wut you talking about 💀

[rotund gull]

On the large version there will be new Tds for PL and will be there faster than the Strv and Udes line.

[violet timber]

Both tanks are really good lmao

[rotund sonnet]

the block are track grousers it can be place to give the tracks more grip

[rotund sonnet]

it could either you having the mandela effect or you just saw the PC version without realizing

[rotund sonnet]

or the chinese one

[violet timber]

I was right

[rotund sonnet]

yea, unless its a unknown kpz 3 project not released to the public (wg wiki says the turret was based off of a kpz 3 project not sure if its trust worthy)

[valid gale]

Considering the prog and standard B are ripped from Germany it’s safe to assume it is

[rotund sonnet]

mino tech tree:

[valid gale]

Mino is like a pure fabrication

[thin imp]

why so many italy tree man

[rotund sonnet]

kpz 70 concepts

[valid gale]

Unfortunately not based off of it, the frontal turret concepts from Germany were crazy, they even drew up plans for a crane system to raise and lower it

[solid gate]

does the 121B play like a T-62A?

[rotund sonnet]

thats the joint project of UK and germany you sure its the same one

[valid gale]

It was a part of the brain storming Germany engaged in within the 80s, Germany was really interested in the KPZ and drew up back up plans should it fail , Leo 2k would be their exit ticket and then on was their new canvas

[rotund sonnet]

that picture is the kpz 3/ FMBT 80

[valid gale]

Kpz stands for mbt when translated I do know it was related to the joint UK project hence MBT 80

[rotund sonnet]

im aware of that

[blissful cave]

When WG makes the 26 ton medium tank into a heavy for no reason

[balmy compass]

It’s a TD in PC iirc

[blissful cave]

Was actually supposed to have half the frontal armor it has in game
And had a 90mm smoothbore

Its funky to read these actual concept things for yourself and just see how much WG screws around with it hurt to make it fit a role it clearly wasn’t

TL-7 was supposed to be a small light medium tank not some TD or small heavy

Also funky fact TL-7 had genuine interest being considered for use so multiple versions were designed TL-7 A,B and C being a lighter,medium and heavier variant (the C heavier one was still half the armor of the one in game)

[balmy compass]

When the Kanonenjagdpanzer had a 90mm irl, but WG gives it a 105mm (the designers said it would work but it was never implemented)

[blissful cave]

At least they actually said something about it

[rotund gull]

https://tenor.com/view/tuh-cat-goofy-cat-black-cat-gif-16130944145467250984

[lyric copper]

the PC version has the 90mm equipped version as well

[violet timber]

And then got refunded

[balmy compass]

I think it’s nice it has the 105mm in this game, I just wish it had more accuracy for fun

[violet timber]

They gave the 105mm variant out for free to all those who bought the 90mm on pc because it was so ass it was basically unplayable

[balmy compass]

Lol

[lyric copper]

what would have actually made it good was if it had the DPM it had in testing

literal tier 8 E25 but can actually hurt people

[balmy compass]

Yeah that’s pretty much what I like about it

[blissful cave]

Weighs 43 in game a little under double that (maybe TL-7C was closer tho it never says in here what the estimated weight of TL-7C was but considering how the armor is still half the one in game I’d say not close)

[balmy compass]

The Kanonenjagdpanzer model in-game is also really fire, 3d road wheels, bunch of miscellaneous items on the back, not ugly

[lyric copper]

except no it has no DPM basically, and in general the CDA does better due to having armour actually capable of generating bounces

[valid gale]

It has the modern L7A3 look which none of the tanks that possess it do

[balmy compass]

I love it when people shoot me but I somehow bounce from the mantlet

[blissful cave]

Dang I still have to do tank of the day today (I already did TL-7 btw)

[lyric copper]

however I do understand why you’d want a KanJpz over a CDA

the CDA is fr*nch

@blissful cave KanJpz TOD

[balmy compass]

I like German stuff and CDA is French yeah

[blissful cave]

Oh I was about to say kanonen was done too
The two were talking about rn

[violet timber]

Honestly the CDA is really fun

[balmy compass]

Have you done the racketjagpanzer, however it was spelled, the rocket bed alternate

[violet timber]

CDA is like a fun size 120-1gft

[blissful cave]

The what

[lyric copper]

Raketen?

[balmy compass]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raketenjagdpanzer_2

[lyric copper]

well if you want an easy one, the Flakpanzer Gepard also would be nice

[blissful cave]

You know what screw it missile kanonen it is

[balmy compass]

Lol

[violet timber]

I was about to throw M6A2E1 into the mix

[lyric copper]

weasel is also funny

genuine gremlin tank

[violet timber]

There’s also the Stryker (my beloved)

[lyric copper]

@blissful cave has the Tetrarch been done yet

[blissful cave]

It has not
But I did mention it shortly in my locust post but it hasn’t gotten its own yet no

[violet timber]

Poor locust, great idea but terribly reliability put it in the grave

[blissful cave]

It was the airdrop tank they used before locust

[lyric copper]

goblin/gremlin tanks please

[violet timber]

My favorite gremlin tank is the T92

[lyric copper]

my personal fav is the M56

• 90mm (makes it better than the T92’s stinky 76mm)
• fully air transportable
• loader and commander have to dismount, gunner has to keep as far away from his own sight to avoid getting hit when the gun recoils
• still somehow has room for plenty of ammo
• small
• goober gremlin goblin

[safe acorn]

WG pls add Raketenautomat for the funnies

But in all seriousness I feel like Obj 906 is underrated

[valid gale]

Locust came too late is why

And by 1943 a airdrop 37mm is pretty useless

[safe acorn]

Ngl the snail makes Tiger 1 feel fast for some reason
WG is a given

[valid gale]

HSTV is my favorite “gremlin” type tank though

[safe acorn]

Would've been anyone's

[valid gale]

Absolutely ridiculous tank that got capped because of the US again

[lyric copper]

the US armed forces on its way to create a new prototype for billions

and then never use it/ produce it:

[violet timber]

Hey, we gotta waste money on something

[valid gale]

spend decades chasing after a light tank prototype
reject because it doesn’t meet a certain impossible criteria
ad hominem

make another light
its 40 tons and not air transportable
kappa

[lyric copper]

meanwhile the UK:

actually make thing for billions

except most of the budget was wasted, and what you have ended up with is a sub-par mockery of modern tech

mrw no CATOBAR for the 2 primary fleet carriers of the RN for the next 30 or so years, and installing such systems would cost a lot
mrw you had a perfect working prototype (EM-2), decide to make a 5.56 bullpup, but it’s SO bad you have to go to the Germans so they can fix it (it’s still trash, so much so your own special forces group procures weapons made elsewhere)
mrw your cool MBT is so overweight, slow, and uses an outdated gun design just so you can fire a funny shell which is now only good against light targets and buildings

[valid gale]

Admittedly still not as bad as US incompetency tbh

[safe cedar]

British navy;

[lyric copper]

it is rather bad considering what we could have had

[valid gale]

Who th spends 2 decades developing numerous superior paladin prototypes and then you just never use them

Ah yes everyone already having switched to auto loading artillery or much smarter targeting and ammunition mean while stuck with manual loading mcgee

[safe cedar]

Atleast your not stuck with caesar

[lyric copper]

why on earth do we need to use complicated V/STOL aircraft

when we can use a fixed wing with superior load capacity, flight range, and speed

nope, gotta have the ski jump instead of CATOBAR for the 2 main fleet carriers, we aren’t stupid trust us

[valid gale]

Atleast challenger 3 is a step in the right direction

[safe cedar]

The 3 stands for the amount they intend to produce

[lyric copper]

the thing the french military is actually best at is making the most intimidating names

@valid gale a step which should have been taken 25 years ago

[valid gale]

Admittedly it is late But better than being stuck with the L30

[lyric copper]

the challenger 2 is genuinely the worst western MBT by far

the slowest, the worst armed, and lowest count

[valid gale]

Ariete:

[safe cedar]

That is true, but you don't want to be in an unarmoured, extremely import to destroy box.

Especially since if war breaks up im set to be sent to the artillery corp. I was so mad when we put caesar in a truck instead of an armoured box.

[safe cedar]

Atleast Challenger 2 is ridiculously sexy, makes leclerc cry.

[lyric copper]

You MUST be blind

the Chally is akin to a Vauxhall

the Leclerc is a Bugatti in comparison

[valid gale]

Challenger 2 Atleast gets the benefit of insane protection, something leclerc lacks severely

[safe cedar]

Dude this looks so hot

[violet timber]

Challenger 1 looks better than Chally 2

[lyric copper]

Leclerc actually is fast

the only time a Leclerc loses out to a Chally is from a cold start

[safe cedar]

true

[lyric copper]

The Leclerc also isn’t horribly overweight

[safe cedar]

From what ive heard atleast challenger 2 is roomy?

[safe acorn]

Mfw Ariete

[lyric copper]

all western MBTs are

[valid gale]

Chally 2 has alot of comfort for the crew , minus that one dog water “street fighter” upgrade

[lyric copper]

MoD really be like “how do you do, fellow kids”

[safe cedar]

leclerc taking off its skirt 👀

[safe acorn]

Put them back on

[valid gale]

I forgot the front skirt plates are solid chunks like the abrams

[lyric copper]

I’d rather the MoD procure 2A7s rather than continue with the Chally 3

[safe cedar]

I mean I wouldn't know because im like 5'5 so everything is roomy to me.

Except IS-4.

[valid gale]

All Russians are uncomfortable even if they are for transport

[safe acorn]

I'm at that height where I could ride anything

[lyric copper]

well tested design
already well used and liked by members of NATO
would be a better deal than pulling an India

[safe cedar]

Taller than me or shorter 💀

[lyric copper]

Russian vehicles are famous for their height restrictions

[safe acorn]

Convert 5'5 to cm for me because I forgor

[blissful cave]

im back from my TOD pos-

[valid gale]

It would be crap load more expensive than upgrading the challenger, admittedly the legal issue Germany doesn’t like to share the leopard hull as the VFM MK7 demonstrated

[safe cedar]

Galarian is like 6'2 or something crazy.

[safe acorn]

Literally hulking figure

[blissful cave]

Lmao yea I’m 6ft

[safe cedar]

165cm.

[lyric copper]

poor guy would never fit into a T-55

[safe cedar]

Most them aren't horrible to be honest.
IS-4 is just insanely cramped. Like it must have been made for children or something.

[lyric copper]

6ft is way too tall for the 55’s roof

[violet timber]

Most of them are terrible wdym

[safe acorn]

Russians in the cold war: man this sucks, my tank has no space and it always feels so cramped
Modern super and hypercar owners:

[blissful cave]

Ah yeeea

[lyric copper]

Soviets and Russians after forgetting that good nutrition= taller people when designing their tanks

[valid gale]

Short profile is because of hulldown doctrine

[lyric copper]

mfw height restriction to optimise

[safe acorn]

Bruh I'm 5ft 8'

[safe cedar]

russian tank by comfort ranked
IS-2 > ISU-152 > KV-1 > T-80 > T-64 > IS-3 > T-72 ural-1 > T-54a > ASU-85 > T-34-85 > T-26 > T-34 mod. 1943 > IS-4.
Atleast from my experience.

[lyric copper]

IS-2 fully crewed and loaded would not be a fun experience

[safe cedar]

I got into an empty one so it felt pretty decent.

[blissful cave]

The ultimate gigachad,and then there’s me on the right

[lyric copper]

25kg shell needing to be lifted in such a small area would not be fun

[safe acorn]

Russians developing PAZ equipment not knowing that because of how cramped it is

If someone were to have a bad stomach day

[safe cedar]

However early war french tanks are also horribly uncomfortable

[violet timber]

IS-2 was notorious for pretty poor crew comfort

[lyric copper]

1-man turret moment

[safe cedar]

Imo the most comfortable tank the germans made was either the Tiger 2 or Panzer III

[safe acorn]

Not Jagdtiger?

[safe cedar]

I still think its alot better in what ive seen than alot of other ones they have.

[safe acorn]

Ay yoooo
Saw a F-15 take off omw to my campus

[lyric copper]

104-0 RAAAAAHH

[safe cedar]

Never been in one, dont know.

[blissful cave]

Finnish army:you’ll have plenty of room in the BT-42 turret
Finns:but what about armor tho
Finnish army:oh yeah…right
(Crews said it felt like as if nothing was protecting them at all especially the door in the back it’s like regular bullets could penetrate it)

[valid gale]

More roomy than a tiger 2 I’d imagine

[safe cedar]

Tiger II seats are nice tho

[safe acorn]

"Back to WW1 armor for you"

[lyric copper]

M56 is pretty roomy if you’re not the driver

[valid gale]

I’d feel bad for the turret crew rather than the drivers

[safe cedar]

True especially if your short

[blissful cave]

Tankette drivers

[safe acorn]

Wiesel 1A2 operators be like

[safe cedar]

M4 sherman is also pretty comfortable, though suspension is pretty rough.

[lyric copper]

the M56 Scorpion

the tiny air-portable AT vehicle

great for everyone but the driver

[blissful cave]

https://preview.redd.it/6js78ljusz931.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=034a90c69ad4b7373828210106816a1a5b200226

[safe cedar]

Yeah, I got to ride on one while they were moving it.

[safe acorn]

God now that I think of it
Imagine the crew if a Wiesel lost its grip over an incline and starts to roll downwards

[blissful cave]

Valiant driver

[lyric copper]

open top gang fr chillin

[safe cedar]

obviously though, m10 is the most comfortable tank

[safe acorn]

Open top gang when it starts to rain

[lyric copper]

canvas cover:

[safe acorn]

It's not sealed shut ain't it

[safe cedar]

Regular tankers when water leaks through cracks in welding:

[valid gale]

Gun fumes :

[safe cedar]

M36 basically solved the issue though

[lyric copper]

see the T25/2

[safe cedar]

ISU-152 loader:

[safe acorn]

That and I don't think everyone had it
Some did some dont

[lyric copper]

least jacked tank loader:

[safe acorn]

Better to have one than none at all
M56 crews when it starts raining

[safe cedar]

oh no, anyways

[lyric copper]

T92 crews looking at M56 crews when it starts to rain:

[blissful cave]

Wait what happens to open top tanks when it rains does it just pool at the bottom

[safe acorn]

Ill find it funny if the gun shield had a dedicated placement for 2 umbrellas to cover the gunner and loader

[safe cedar]

M56 also rides really, really smooth if your good

[lyric copper]

what tyres as roadwheels does to a tanker:

[lyric copper]

it didn’t, but it could have existed as a field mod

[safe acorn]

Anyways uh what should I do with $135

[safe cedar]

also as a bonus you can construct basically a canvas "tent" over m56 to keep warm & dry

[lyric copper]

^ since it’s so small, you could have it dropped in alongside the tank

[safe cedar]

Regardless I'm always glad to have a seat and not have to push my artillery gun.

Pushing a 1 ton gun 3 miles is not fun in the pouring rain.

[safe acorn]

Woe is the crew of the M50 Ontos

[lyric copper]

the US really looked at a trapezoid and said “yeah, slap a few recoilless rifles on it”

[safe cedar]

Honestly they should remake m56 with either a 105mm or 120mm gun.

[lyric copper]

genuinely contender for most “did a child draw this” tank to have ever existed

[safe acorn]

You don't know do you

[lyric copper]

I mean what would that really solve, the M10B and M1A3 are more than enough

[safe acorn]

I need to find it again but afaik a 10yr old did submit a design to the US army for a SPG design during Nam'

[safe cedar]

M10 is like 40 tonnes, m56 is like 8

It provides a cheap, mobilized artillery gun in a compact platform

[safe acorn]

This is interesting
So apparently the army did accept design ideas from civilians for a time
And the most practical one came from a child

[lyric copper]

okay but what need would the US need a light tank with a large caliber gun

for the price of procurement, just buy more Javelins

[safe cedar]

Well you could probably mount a heavier anti-tank missile on it than you could if it was being carried on foot.

[lyric copper]

we saw this with the Sheridan, MANPAT systems basically made it obsolete

[lyric copper]

what even is this

[safe acorn]

4 50.cals

[safe cedar]

[safe acorn]

The thing I said earlier

[solid gate]

How should I use the 121B?

[safe cedar]

think your so funny? Bull pups your Vk45.01p

[safe acorn]

This is literally that photoshopped pic of the Tiger 1 with the Panther turret

[lyric copper]

like a medium

[solid gate]

which equipment do you recommend

[lyric copper]

rammer, equipment that increases module HP, optics, GLD, HP, engine accelerator, vstabs, toolbox, consumable delivery system

[safe cedar]

Lol

[solid gate]

Thanks

[blissful cave]

Hey guys check this out US wasp light tank concept
120mm autoloader light tank

(4.7 inches is like 119mm)

[solid gate]

which would be the drop chance in the crates?

[blissful cave]

Idk they could probably make it a tier 9 or something a cool idea that would fit around T92 area I think it would be too good for tier 8 but not better than Sheridan

Yo? US double barrel tank?

(Basically Astron Rex with two guns)

[solid gate]

Interesting, another double barrel tank that isn't fake

[blissful cave]

Kinda carro 45t shaped Abrams

[valid gale]

Alas fate was meant to be

[valid gale]

Looks scarily similar to abrams X turret

[blissful cave]

10 tons lmao this is gonna be a pure HE magnet I think it would the lightest tank in the game (that isn’t low tiers)

Way lighter than Sheridan and stuff

UE 57 I’m betting that is the lightest

[valid gale]

10 tons straight up isn’t Achievable with that

[blissful cave]

Only 1/2 an inch of armor tho

That wouldn’t stop anything💀

[solid gate]

If you throw a rock it will pen

[misty wing]

I mean 1/2 inch is 12mm which is about what a lot of the paper tanks in this game have

[blissful cave]

Yea doesn’t FV4005’s box have like 15 or something

[misty wing]

14 I think

[thorny smelt]

Yup. 14 mm

[rotund sonnet]

He actually saw his favorite tank dang

[blissful cave]

Yea I’ve gotten to see it few times and every time it’s just as perfect : D
BT-42 my beloved

[rotund sonnet]

I still haven't even seen a tank 💀

[blissful cave]

It’s very close to Helsinki so whenever I’m there I HAVE to go there
Last time I was there I didn’t have time : (

[rotund sonnet]

The thing about the wt auf panzer 4 is

There was no official documentation on what armament it would of gotta the sketches you see online was by Spielberger

[blissful cave]

I think it wasn’t built

[valid gale]

@wary summit need debate

4th upgrade slot
Or upgraded autoloader

[blissful cave]

My true favorite tank was never built either : (

[wary summit]

Personally autoloader, but upgrade slot seems mucho better

[blissful cave]

https://raigap.livejournal.com/1046589.html? AAAA Tornvagn stuff! (Lemme translate this : D

[rotund sonnet]

Concept stage and drawing stage most common tanks in wot

[rotund sonnet]

For a second I thought it was yuri pasholok because it was live journal

[prime pumice]

why do you like tornvagn so much

[placid ingot]

I’m having the mandela effect

[blissful cave]

SIX SECONDS?
WG you have some explaining to do it’s currently double that and it’s agony

[prime pumice]

it would have too much dpm

[blissful cave]

Also this site has WAY more information on Tornvagn that I’ve ever seen and I’m not even done going through it
Also one of my favorite parts is that it’s described as a “main battle tank” idk how true that would be tho

Imagine more accurate Tornvagn at tier 10 it’s a tank from the late 70’s idk what it’s doing down at 8 anyway

[prime pumice]

400 pershot 6 seconds=ten shots = 4000 dpm

[blissful cave]

Wait until you hear Caliban’s accurate reload speed

[blissful cave]

Just look at this masterpiece of design

[prime pumice]

nice

was that 3d printed

[blissful cave]

Yes
But I don’t have a 3D printer I asked someone who made 3D print tanks if they could make a Tornvagn for me and bought it

[prime pumice]

how much was it

[blissful cave]

That up there’s the base coat here’s when I was finished with the winter camo

[prime pumice]

damn why not the stegosauras

[molten pumice]

Imagine if the tracks and wheel is a separate print and you have to assemble the tracks and wheel so that it can actually move like a tank

[blissful cave]

https://www.3d-scale.de/3DScale/en/tanks/1138-6609-bofors-tornvagn-heavy-swedish-tank.html#/28-material-pla/45-nation-schweden/89-scale-1_32 42€ he added it to the site too so anyone can buy it

[blissful cave]

Because I absolutely despise that

[prime pumice]

its not that bad

[prime pumice]

42 is kinda expensive

my favourite tank is object 777 II

[blissful cave]

For a custom model of a tank that you’ll never be able to get otherwise it’s not at all bad
Especially considering the average 1/35 model kit is that much and you have to ngh build and glue it piece by piece

I asked him if he’d be able to do a few other requests but he hasn’t responded : (

[prime pumice]

womp

[blissful cave]

Like Lansen and T54E2

Those I had the idea to paint as their legendary camos tho I like the moose and shark and it’ll be something new and fun to try

[blissful cave]

I don’t know if you knew already but in case you didn’t,Object 777 is real : )

[wary summit]

Obvious balancing move

[blissful cave]

Gimme lore accurate Tornvagn 😏

[halcyon lotus]

is 121B real?

[wary summit]

121b should be the Type 59/69 retrofitted with the L7 back during the 1979 Economic Reformation

[blissful cave]

I think? It’s marked as real in my real vs fake but don’t remember the details of it

Meaning I found a something that was enough for me to mark it real

[wary summit]

Tank existed, never went full production, gun configuration fake since the thing's prototype got nuked off literally

[blissful cave]

Speaking of my real vs fake tank list
While making my meme of going insane over fake tech trees I found stuff on DS pnz and BUGI making me consider changing their markings

Make DS from fake to real (design came from a historic basis and not just made up for the game) the story behind it is it was a historic drawing of Germany incorrectly documenting the 14TP as something else not getting the design right and calling it T-39 or something
BUGI being changed from fake to semi fake the design came from a fake history document made in recent times and WG pulled from that

Difference between the two for me is intention,the first one was a historic documentation error
The second being just someone spreading misinformation on the internet

[molten pumice]

Is the japanese ht line real tho

[blissful cave]

Not at all

[molten pumice]

Soo fake made up tanks by wg? Or semi fake?

[blissful cave]

Purely WG fake

Mitsu 108 is very similar to Mitsu 104 tho

[wary summit]

Japan creating any heavy tank is laughable by itself from logistical and philosophy stand-point, especially the scale WG puts them on

[blissful cave]

Ju nu is fake but the story WG made up I will admit is really cool
It’s a what if scenario of japan attempting to copy the Tiger based on studying “Heavy tank no. 6” (the tiger that was sent to japan)

[wary summit]

It's going to get stuck in either paddy fields or marshes

[west root]

Say hello to tiny sturmtiger

[molten pumice]

Put eyes on it

[west root]

I would but I have no clue where I put that picture was a while ago

[molten pumice]

Dang

[solid gate]

@peak gull

[prime pumice]

how is it the 59 theres a literal 59 in the game

[wary summit]

Retrofits and modernizations

The Centurion that used to slug around the 17-pdr ended up with the L7 by the end of its life

Technically the designation WZ-121 isn't correct, since it's the industrial designation of the Type 69, and the 121 we all know and love was simply a prototype which later got nuked back in the 60's and thus impossible for it to have the L7

[prime pumice]

ok

[safe acorn]

But it did get a 105mm just to be even clearer

I think the reason why our WZ-121 has a 122mm gun is probably from referencing the Type 69 variants that use a 125mm

[candid ingot]

w or l ? 😏

[safe acorn]

W and L

[candid ingot]

x(

[west root]

Which one's better

[candid ingot]

t77 😏

[west root]

Hmm may get it

[candid ingot]

7500 gold

[ancient birch]

Fv215b or vk72?

[sour lava]

VK 72

[wise moth]

It’s a T77 for 10,000 gold. Not bad

[sour lava]

T77 and KV-5 this a both good right

[sleek gorge]

Is the type 59 good?

[sour lava]

Yes. Type 59 is very good, but be careful when a hit ammorack explode, need a protective kits

[sleek gorge]

Average medium exp lmao

[candid ingot]

@wise moth 10k with camo...

[wary summit]

As part of your collection, yes

For anything ranging from fun to credit grind, there are a few couple more that can do it

[tender forge]

Is the mle 54 coming in the store anytime soon?

[solid gate]

Should I keep my strv k

[tender forge]

Ye

[lusty orbit]

yes is strong

[solid gate]

But I kinda want the gold too

[honest rampart]

Don't, just be wise for once and keep it

[violet timber]

Do you enjoy it?

[upbeat isle]

Yolo purchased the KV-5 since I don't yet have a good t8 brawl tank. Looks like I need to work on aiming my shots better 🙃

[blissful cave]

Tank of the day anyone?

[violet timber]

M1128 Stryker

[lyric copper]

Gepard

[blissful cave]

Out of context frame from the meme I made

[arctic compass]

Is t77 worth the 7500 gold

[blissful cave]

Yea I’d say so
I wouldn’t know about buying it I got it from a snow globe I wasn’t happy about it at first but now I like it quite a bit

[arctic compass]

I do have the t57 so I do know how it plays out
As it's pretty much the same tank but with one less shell and two tiers down

[frail dagger]

T68

The 155 Auto loader

[proper parrot]

Why STRV 74 Alt 2 dont count as a Europe tank? I used to complete some battle- pass tasks, and one of them was to play 40 battles on the Europe or UK vehicles, and unfortunately when I have played about 10 battles I found out that they didnt count to that task,

[blissful cave]

Oh yea forgot to mention I’ll probably do this one for TOD

[blissful cave]

Yea for some reason Strv 74A2 is officially a hybrid nation and only had its flag changed to Sweden as visual change only

[upbeat isle]

I bought it on the auction for 7k since I wasn't sure if/when it'd be offered again. 7500 for fully unlocked is worth imo.

Very fun autoloader. Puts out silly alpha damage. Just remember that your armor is troll so don't rely on it...

[spare nest]

Did not expect to do this well in this

Same for the E-75 Ts

[blissful cave]

When I get interested in the history of another tank i previously didn’t care much for so then I start to like it and that just becomes another tank I want to buy in the game

[violet timber]

Literally me with the 122TM (I love it so much)

[blissful cave]

Me with a bunch of American premiums I never previously thought about getting (I got those books that detail everything and now I want the T95’s,M6A2E1 and all the question mark tanks I can get)

I have basically every question mark except AE phase 1 (agony) i want to get M6A2E1 and I think I may get T95E2 if I see it for super cheap

[upbeat isle]

I've got a love/hate relationship with it personally...going hulldown and bullying mediums is very funny, but the reload time on it hurts.

[blissful cave]

I got WZ-122 recently and yea I’ll say it’s not really one I enjoy playing but I do like the tank a lot tho it’s what got me interested in Chinese tanks after a friend suggested it for tank of the day

Originally I didn’t like them I thought they were all just cheap copies
But their original designs I do like

[spare nest]

The T95 won’t be cheap. It normally a pack tank. It’s decent for its tier but there’s much better tanks like the T54

[blissful cave]

I have the T-55 I think it’s neat because it’s a hybrid nation I get Finnish crew voice on it I like to pretend it’s our Finnish T-55M

[violet timber]

95E2 comes fully kitted for 3.5k gold lmao

Also T-54 is a tier above the 95E2

[spare nest]

Not talking about the Russian one

[violet timber]

???

[spare nest]

This one

[violet timber]

Bros comparing a heavy to a med 💀

[blissful cave]

Yea I’ve been absolutely loving the T54E2 lately looking into the history of it it’s a tank I REALLY like now and it’s very fun to play

[spare nest]

So. My first two tier 10 were the T-62A and the obj 140

[upbeat isle]

Strangely, the Type 62 is the Chinese tank I keep coming back to. I'm still not very good with lights but I really enjoy driving it.

[solid gate]

Is there a site that gives good info on each tier 10, like what they are good at and how difficult they are to play?

[spare nest]

Tank.gg or blitz hanger

[thorny smelt]

You mixed up with Russian T-54 with the American T54xx tank which is why @spare nest is confused

[blissful cave]

American tanks are easily the most interesting to me
I love Swedish concepts a lot too but there aren’t that many of them and a lot of them aren’t added to the game (looming at YOU wargaming give us the Strv 103 and UDES)
Those huge US prototype and concept books I have are a huge reason for that

[spare nest]

Yeah same I like Swedish tanks wish we got more in blitz

[solid gate]

What is the best tank destroyer line for beginners? I want to try them but everytime I have I got nuked so early in the game or got like 1 hit.

[blissful cave]

Something armored I’d say don’t go for the paper ones like the German ones

[spare nest]

That’s ever early game TD

[blissful cave]

Yea the Swedish tanks are my favorite
It’s just US has more tanks overall

I mean here’s my Swedish model tank collection (the green on Strv 103 looks weird in this picture but trust me it’s normal green)
Also the winter one is Strv K the green one is centurion I painted as Strv 81

I would want to make a model Lansen so bad

[upbeat isle]

Take the Italian line to T6, Bassotto is super forgiving. Might teach you more bad habits than good in the end though.

The American line might also be a good one to try up to at least T5 to see if you like it.

[spare nest]

I own the Lansen and the Emil 1941

I want to buy the Strv k when it is the store again

[blissful cave]

I have every Swedish tank in the game

[spare nest]

W

[blissful cave]

I really hope they add more I was really hoping they’d add Strv 103 or UDES but no EU’s are probably getting their third tech trees before we get a second Swedish :/
Next one was announced to be another Italian

[spare nest]

There adding more Italian tanks I think

[blissful cave]

And for premiums we’ve pretty much gotten all the ones PC has that we can get (as in excluding the Strv 103-like ones)

[spare nest]

Yeah. I play the Finland line in wt all the time

[blissful cave]

Joooo tosi kiva🇫🇮😎🤜🤛

I wish they’d add our one tank to blitz just let us Finns have our BT-42 and we won’t ask for anything else

[spare nest]

Fr low tier Kv 2

[blissful cave]

…because we didn’t make any other tanks🙃
(Unless you could technically make in game tanks out of modification variants like Sturmi,T-55M and maybe that comet charioteer)

Vickers tier 1 is basically one of those
Finland ordered vickers hull “skeletons” basically empty wit nothing in it and then filled all the internal stuff with Finnish parts for cost effectiveness

[spare nest]

Well yeah but they also shot different ammo and one of the only country’s using tanks from both sides.

[blissful cave]

Relied mostly on purchased and especially captured tanks

[spare nest]

They kinda did what China, Italy and Hungary did.

[blissful cave]

Sturmi would be a cool variant to have in game (Finnish StuG)

[spare nest]

That’s the concrete one right? Yo what’s your user name maybe we can play some time. My is EXO1337

[blissful cave]

Nah they didn’t really have zimmerit the last batch had it but those didn’t get to see use

They looked like this (I made a custom 1/16 scale RC one : )

Irl picture doesn’t show but they’d often put logs on the sides

Just saw a commercial for this thing that turns your phone into a game controller
We in business babeyyy (I’m a switch player)

[spare nest]

I play on all three iOS ,pc and switch

[valid gale]

TIL Buford feeds like a P90

[blissful cave]

I can only play on switch I just cannot do touchscreen controls
And I just don’t have a PC nor know how to use one I just only know how to use a controller

Also a funky fact is everything is slightly cheaper on switch btw for money offers

[lyric copper]

yeah stuff like this existed way before this

the Razer Kishi

[blissful cave]

Yea but I haven’t really seen em before also this one is like exactly the Nintendo switch layout

[lyric copper]

so is the Kishi

[spare nest]

Yeah when I buy stuff I do it through my switch

[blissful cave]

It’s nice because sure for 2$ stuff it’s like 50¢ cheaper but if you’re getting something for 50$ it’ll be like 35$ on switch or something

[spare nest]

Plus discount if you use your switch points

[blissful cave]

Yea that’s really nice
But Nintendo hasn’t put any good games out lately so I haven’t been really buying games it’s about time for a new console

I’m ready to start the new console cycle where we’ll get a new Luigi’s mansion,Mario kart,Mario game,hopefully a donkey Kong game and other stuff
Right now they’ve already kinda done everything so they’re just scraping for random stuff at this point

[spare nest]

You get them do buying anything on the eshop. Also get some free ones every bday

[blissful cave]

Oh boy mines in like 2 weeks

[spare nest]

Yeah just go to the Nintendo website and login

Also pay attention to your email

[blissful cave]

Just gonna say,normally I hate fakes but daaang I gotta admit ground tank looks cool

[spare nest]

Reminds me of a merkava

[blissful cave]

Todays TOD M1128 Stryker

[blissful cave]

Poll be like “what’s your favorite nation in the game”
US and EU but specifically Sweden

Dang if only there was a way to let em know we should get Swedish tanks

[valid gale]

Devil in physical form

[solid gate]

the fact that they only have one line

[blissful cave]

Yea we literally only have one and they’re out here giving Italy a third

During my time playing the game (basically 2 years exactly) we’ve gotten
1 Japanese (2 -> 3 new totals)
2 Italian (1 -> 3)
2 Chinese (3 ->5)
1 Czech and Polish (1->2) each

Wanna hear the funny part? Only one of these lines are actually real tanks (Chinese lights are just type 62 modernizations)

Semovente and bassotto are real but after that they’re not

Some of em don’t even try where it at least starts with something real then just “what if it continues” nah there’s just lines that are 100% made up

[solid gate]

A lot of fake tank lines in two years

[blissful cave]

You wanna know which two tanks are real?😏
The Strv 103 and UDES 15/16

[solid gate]

Strv 103 when wg

[blissful cave]

The only real tanks from these two years worth of tech trees
Semovente bassotto
DS pnz is based on a German’s inaccurate description report of 14TP
BUGI is based on a fake document (WG didn’t make up the design they got it from somewhere)
I think the entire Chinese light line from what I found

So 7 purely real tanks
Plus two fakes but actually sourced from somewhere so I appreciate the cool reference at least

[spare nest]

Yeah. A lot of the blitz tanks are based of blueprints prototypes and mash’s of other tanks

[blissful cave]

Blueprints and prototypes I LOVE those
It’s just the tanks with zero historic basis and purely made up for the game that are the thing

I don’t have a problem with the idea of adding some fake tanks it’s just TWO things that do bother me about it tho

-they do nothing to inform the player which are fake causing confusion and writing pretend history for them which would be a cool idea if they actually said it was so

-they prioritize these over making real tech trees,premiums don’t seem to have as much of a problem with fakes,but them it’s worse if you don’t have to make 5 tanks connect to eachother and make a stand alone tank why even make a fake in the first place

^like yea I get finding 5 or so similar tanks that all connect and are like a step up from eachother can be hard,but for premiums what’s the point of faking some when you can literally just add a real concept as a stand alone premium

[spare nest]

Italian TD💀. They could of had the first two then to the Hungarian TD to finish the line of

[blissful cave]

Like if Poland,Czechoslovakia or Italy didn’t make any “high tier tank designs” why do you even bother with trying to constantly add tech trees for them? (We’re getting rino,and wot pc just announced another czech and polish line)

[blissful cave]

I may eat my words tho in case this is actually the “Czech light tank” they just announced for pc

[solid gate]

Even because not that many people are huge fans of Polish, Czech or Italian tanks

[blissful cave]

The first czech and Italian lines are real tho (except panthera) but then why try to keep going when their postwar tank development has already been used up

[spare nest]

And technically it’s called the European commonwealth tech tree too

[blissful cave]

Sweden was really screwing around with concepts during the time when Poland Italy and Czechoslovakia basically stopped making stuff

And all because they’re too lazy to implement hydropneumatic suspension🙃

[robust orchid]

Is the KV-5 any good? I've seen it being used quite well to hold positions down in Realistic but often fall against even lower tier Light Vehicles

[blissful cave]

I don’t have KV-5 but yea it’s armor is insane

[spare nest]

Yeah the sweds and fins where cooking

[violet timber]

Been playing it a ton recently and yeah, it's super goofy

[spare nest]

To be far that’s another reason we don’t have more tanks in game as well is cuz WG dosent want to make it either

[robust orchid]

Did someone just try to post a spam link 🗿

[solid gate]

another tank that should be in the game-

Chrysler TV-8

[blissful cave]

Nah we weren’t doing anything tbh💀

[spare nest]

Naw y’all where cooking imports.

[blissful cave]

We just made one tank and went “phew that’s enough from me”

[blissful cave]

British hand me downs and T-55’s babeyyyyy

[spare nest]

Hey they slaps because y’all used better ammo and modded them to hell

[blissful cave]

Yea true I love Finnish tanks
We don’t make em but we sure mod tf out of em

[spare nest]

We need these

[blissful cave]

BT-42 my beloved (that me btw)

[solid gate]

imagine having gun elevation or depression
slaps a hydropneumatic suspension

[spare nest]

Hate to break it to you but WG won’t be adding it to blitz anytime soon

[blissful cave]

Yesterday I found a source with more Tornvagn information than I’ve ever seen (had to be thrown through google translate for me tho) and called Tornvagn a “main battle tank” that idea sounds so cool to me

It was from like ~1978 or something

[solid gate]

main battle tower vehicle

[blissful cave]

Tornvagn translates to tower vehicle but I can’t tell if that means tower as in towing vehicle (construction vehicle disguise name like Kranvagn) or tower like turret (in Finnish we call it tykkitorni) which is “cannon tower”
Toe-wer or Tow-wer

[spare nest]

I have information manual on all the ww2 German tanks

[meager spindle]

all the bombing targets? sweet

[solid gate]

I don't really have an idea honestly, as I don't know anything about swedish. In the translator, "torn" is always translated to tower so I guess it's a tower tower maybe

[spare nest]

?

[blissful cave]

I like the idea of it being Towing vehicle so it has the same name theme as Kranvagn being that it was disguised as a construction vehicle project

[solid gate]

Imagine the swedes making a whole construction site of tank concepts

[blissful cave]

Also that source helped clear up stuff like that no mock-up was ever built i looked for SO long trying to find one because Swedes made mock-ups of EVERYTHING most of those UDES concepts have em,Leo had one,Lansen had one,Strv 2000 had one

[solid gate]

towing vehicle, crane vehicle, now we'll need an excavator vehicle

[spare nest]

It’s the 2000 without the rest of the turret it seems

[blissful cave]

We got the bulldozer
(Just need to borrow it from Germany)

[spare nest]

One of my favorite tanks to use. Also my first premium

[blissful cave]

My first was Tiger 131 but if that doesn’t count (variant of a tech tree just downtiered) then Lansen

Lansen is my most used tank

[solid gate]

Tiger 131 is only available at events right? I have like only 5 parts of it

[blissful cave]

But Tornvagn is gonna pass it soon

[blissful cave]

It’s been in the shop few times for gold only like 2K almost always in that big cat pack (tiger 131,panther M10 and panther 8.8)
I got mine from a special offer during bovingtons tiger day

[solid gate]

I think my first premium was the M4Y

[solid gate]

All right

[blissful cave]

Ah yes my favorite design of the Yoh scrimblo bimblos
I absolutely love the Yoh tanks they’re what really sparked my insanity for concept tanks

[spare nest]

My top 5 are Emil 1941,Rhampanzer,Kanonenjagpanzer, ISU-122 and T-44-100

[solid gate]

the tank that needs more time to spend the clip than to reload it

[spare nest]

The Stalker

[blissful cave]

Before it was just “oh my Lansen was never actually built? That’s kinda cool” or “so my T32 was actually built just never used?” to now me losing my mind looking into the most obscure nonsense

You can blame thank the Yoh’s absolutely insane designs and history for that

[spare nest]

My lineup

The M-VI-Y is another weird one

[blissful cave]

My 5 most used (total game-wise) are,in order
Lansen
Tornvagn
Tiger 131
Strv K
M4A3E8 Sherman

[spare nest]

GSOR 1008 is quite weird

[solid gate]

Have you looked into this one?

[spare nest]

Naw the British where on something making the Archer TD

[blissful cave]

My early game classics plus my new favorites
Lansen and Tiger 131 first premiums,M4A3E8 Sherman my favorite tank when first getting into tanks
And then Tornvagn and Strv K my two favorites I’ve gotten after that
As I’ve gotten more tanks I play em more spread out so each one doesn’t have a super high game count like tiger and Lansen do

[solid gate]

Yugoslavian Sherman with a 122mm gun

[blissful cave]

I still play my Lansen a lot tho because I LOVE that tank
Also yees I’ve seen that Sherman I made a tank of the day post on it after someone suggested it

[spare nest]

Yeah I have the historical camo on that Sherman but I need the buy the Strv K

[solid gate]

It's funny to see how people would test some things into shermans

[blissful cave]

The majority of my above 100 game tanks are from my earlier days of the game

[spare nest]

Is the Strv k Any Good

[blissful cave]

yeeeees I love it

And all my newer tanks even if I play em a lot are surprisingly lower than I expected but mainly because I never really like playing the same tank multiple times in one session I always love to move around onto another tank after a game or two

And because game mode matches don’t count,I play realistic a LOT and boss games too

[spare nest]

Me in my WZ-112-2 in ranked

[solid gate]

I like realistic, but it's more stressing than random matches for me

[blissful cave]

Like I consider TS-5 a tank I REALLY like but how have I only played it 20 times? (Reality I used it a lot in game modes but still only like 24 regular matches?!)

[blissful cave]

I like that sense of alertness you always gotta be on the lookout it’s fun to me they could be anywhere

And there isn’t a limit to how far you can see them they don’t just disappear in front of your eyes because they’re a TD and standing still

Also unintentionally punishing unrealistic camo users is hilarious to me

[solid gate]

I like that, however teams are quite weird in that mode, so I mostly go back to randoms after some few matches

watching a IS-7 not being able to pen a STB in a facehug was sad

[blissful cave]

The amount of times I would’ve not noticed someone if it weren’t for their stupid camo is too many to count 🤣

[spare nest]

Bro when they have the attachments on the tank too is funny

[solid gate]

Rhm-B WT legendary camo is the definitive camo for the mode

[blissful cave]

Carbon black and stand still (pretend to be a destroyed tank)

[spare nest]

That and the H power for the T-34 are broken

[spare nest]

[blissful cave]

Ive had that happen to me sometimes someone with a black camo I don’t notice they’re actually alive

[solid gate]

I have carbon camo on my E100

best chance to camp on it-

[spare nest]

Naw the T-49 spam is wild in that mode

[blissful cave]

Yea light tanks are actually fun

[spare nest]

Yeah when the enemy team had 4 of them

[blissful cave]

I can’t really use my cobra in that mode because that’s the one tank I need armor highlighter for (heavily heat and hesh based)

[solid gate]

Like the Sheridan missile spam in t10

[spare nest]

I haven’t seen a Sheridan in maybe 3 seasons

[blissful cave]

Everything else is fun I know the armor layout of basically everything so I can take a good guess what I can and can’t pen

[spare nest]

Yeah same

[solid gate]

I rarely see the actual Sheridan, but Sheridan Missile is always all around in the specially modes for me

[blissful cave]

Maus in realistic is hilarious nobody will pen

[blissful cave]

Because it’s the only place they’re allowed to use jt

[spare nest]

Me in my under armor under Hp and under damage mediums bulling it

[blissful cave]

Sheridan missiles tryna be sneaky with that big ah spotlight on their head💀

[spare nest]

POV the M60

[solid gate]

once I was attacked by another maus and a 60tp on it, I blocked like 4k damage from them because they kept trying to pen the angled turret 💀

[blissful cave]

M60’s doesn’t light up tho it’s sorta just a box

[spare nest]

True

[blissful cave]

Bro thinks he’s gonna be sneaky with this on💀

[blissful cave]

But I mainly mean like regular camos where I just see it start glowing or some bright object stand out from the pattern
But still,people show up to realistic with legendary camos like that

[spare nest]

WG when

[blissful cave]

Leopard jagdpanzer go craaazy

[spare nest]

Would slap tho

[blissful cave]

As a fun thing i actually change my Lansen from moose to dark green when playing realistic😏
Oh yeah it’s sneaky mode

[inland lake]

Who love caliban tank?

[robust orchid]

Not me

Also, does anyone have a penetration chart for the Type 71 against the E3? Armorinspector wants me to pay just to see that, lol

[halcyon lotus]

not me. shell velocity is just atrociously bad

[robust orchid]

Not to mention poor survivability and mobility

[violet timber]

I do

[vital oyster]

Hello, I earned Tl-7-120 from a container and I don't understand why everyone in forums or else say it has no armor... It has a big cupolla, but that's why ennemies waste their shells against him. Moreover, it bounce most of the time more than 1k PS/game. For a heavy with it's mobility it's pretty good I think.

[halcyon lotus]

TL-7-120 is underrated IMO, it’s a great second-liner. the real problem is that it’s overshadowed by other heavies of its tier like 50TP Prototyp, 50TP, Conqueror, etc.

[vital oyster]

Ok I understand, thank you

[coarse blade]

Kranvagn is such a fun autoreloader

[wary summit]

7.6k and 1.3k assist wow

[coarse blade]

The potential 1200 clip damage is great.

Due to the fact it is an autoreloader means i can consistently shoot(when a shell is loaded of course.) when it is needed.

My god i've only researched this tank because in XP price wise it 2nd to cheapest.

The first time i got this i have been sleeping on it, but man the more i play it the more the games becomes more satisfying.

[bronze dune]

I don't know i can't get M

[honest rampart]

3k isn't that high

[zenith shadow]

Puma is needed ok

[honest rampart]

If you want a ace go play rating or supremacy, and choose a rare tank. Something as dumb as the T54E2 or for example the T77 is extremly hard to ace

[zenith shadow]

But then again wargaming has those lazy excuses where wheeled vehicles cannot be in world of tanks blitz for whatever the reason. so might as well hop on WT instead if you want to experience puma.

[bold gale]

Which one is the best and why?
E 50 Ausf. M
Leopard 1
Maus
E 100
VK 72.01(K)

[teal ridge]

cuz german

[bold gale]

Ye

[pearl girder]

leopard if you know how to play it and vk k also very strong

[lyric copper]

the big cupola is incrediibly easy to hit, it lacks any standout features

the Conqueror simply is better and is free, the TL-7 is worth only the 5k gold sell price

[robust orchid]

Are there any places you can hit a T110E3 from the front for a guaranteed penetration? I'm having a 2 braincell moment trying to re-adjust myself into using Heavies again after training with MTs

[wary summit]

There's always the LFP which is normally 260~280mm thick

Or if you're in heavies that have pretty high HEAT pen that are 374mm, you can still hit some part of the superstructure near the gunshield

[solid gate]

quys? pls can u say me if fv4202 is worthto grind? or wz121?

for td is wz113 gft a good one?

[lyric copper]

yes

[solid gate]

ok thx

[solid gate]

but what u think about this ones cuz i really searched yt and didn't found anything and i don't know what to take?

[lyric copper]

no

[solid gate]

what?

[wary summit]

4202 itself is meh, but the tech tree leading to it is pretty fine

121's line maybe pain, but the tank is pretty rewarding

[polar harness]

The wz120 is torture

[coarse blade]

Not much of a guarantee pen but, you can land some HE shots here

[robust orchid]

Holy quack, it worked, I just shot three 120mm HESH shots on one with my 215b for 1.5k damage, thanks for the advice

[sage panther]

IS-4 NEEDS BUFF

[tepid lily]

It is quite mediocre ngl I do agree

[hollow hornet]

Hi, im kinda new to the game, wich german X tanks are worth going for? i mean meta tanks

[abstract cloud]

E50m

[plucky summit]

E100 is good. It’s not meta because pro players can counter it, but it’s a great tank in pubs

[upbeat isle]

Don't worry about "the meta" if you're new. Worry about grinding some forgiving tank lines, learning the basics of the game, and having fun.

I'm liking both the E100 and Leopard grinds in the German tree so far fwiw, but I'm only at t6 with both.

Again though...I'd suggest grinding a few different lines up to like T4 or T5 to start with. See what feels good and fun for you. You prob want to avoid France and the UK at first though.

[sage panther]

E50M If you are good in controlling the driving, E100 If you can Block rlly good

[hollow hornet]

im enjoy the playstyle of the leopard so far

[solid gate]

Whats wrong with UK? Ik France uses mobility more but UK just has good fire rate, right?

[tepid lily]

Poor armor makes their tanks difficult for newer players to use

[blissful cave]

I don’t know for certain but I think Tornvagn might actually be the most modern tank in blitz (1976-78)
It’s newer than Kpz 70 and Chieftain Mk 6
I know M41D is 90’s but idk if that really counts since that’s just modernizing a very old light tank

[solid gate]

Is the EU a good nation? I've just heard it has a lot of varietion and that its meh

[blissful cave]

Get Kranvagn it’s easily my favorite tech tree in the game

[tepid lily]

60TP line is great

[mossy ocean]

Personally I prefer german

[tepid lily]

Whoops wrong reply 😭😭😭

[violet timber]

Most of the tier 10s are worth getting

[hollow hornet]

Hi, i´m playing with leopard and i like the playstyle, what is the best light tank tech tree to use? cause germans have no X light tanks

[tepid lily]

Emil II kind of dookie tho. I can pen the turret most of the time with gold even during hulldown situations

[hollow hornet]

i was thinking on following the french cause of the fire rate

[solid gate]

Right now im just trying to find the right X for me and then grind to it but i don't want to regret it

[mossy ocean]

Ussr tier X LT. 100

[tepid lily]

I don’t think you can go wrong with the 60TP if you don’t have it.

[solid gate]

Im thinking the E 50 M or Object 140

[tepid lily]

What exactly are you looking for in a tier 10 vehicle

[mossy ocean]

E50M is good. I have that one.
The line towards it is great

[violet timber]

Emil 2 is goated lmao, hulldown its turret is pretty strong

[solid gate]

Decent/good all round but with a bit of focus on firepower

[mossy ocean]

E50M has good armor. Also 5.7 reload time. 350 alpha damage. Maxroll 430 or so.ething like that

[solid gate]

Preferably medium or a quick heavy

[tepid lily]

TDs loaded with gold would like to have a word with you. I don’t have the tank but I personally find it to be very ineffective at its role compared to the Emil 1 and Kranvagn

[violet timber]

Oh wow, TDs with gold, almost like they go through everything hulldown lmao

[mossy ocean]

E50M quite quick

[solid gate]

Im also thinking abt the IS-7

[blissful cave]

Do you think there’s any tank more modern than that?

[solid gate]

And there's the E 100 but I think I might find it boring or not very good

[blissful cave]

I think it’s so cool to imagine Tornvagn as a modern main battle tank
Idk what it’s doing down in tier 8 then lmao

[tepid lily]

Not true, there are some tanks that TDs cannot pen even when shooting gold or have a rather difficult time landing a shot. The whole turret face of the Emil is white when you have gold loaded. Negates the whole point of hulldown gameplay don’t you think so?

[violet timber]

Not really when only tds can do that

[mossy ocean]

Start grinding to E50M, you can decide to go for E100 aswell

[violet timber]

Kran is really the only tank in game that is fully invulnerable when hulldown

[blissful cave]

Imagining its composite armor translating to more armor thickness and if given its accurate reload speed it easily could and should be tier 10 based on its realistic background

[tepid lily]

My point exactly. The Kran is invulnerable to gold when hulldown but the Emil II isn’t. It feels weak tier for tier when compared to its successor and predecessor

[violet timber]

It really doesn’t feel weak since you shouldn’t be poking TDs anyways lmao

If you’re ego challenging tds on a ridge line, that’s on you. Don’t blame the tank

[tepid lily]

Tell that to all the Emil II players facing me 🤣

[blissful cave]

It’s like that with me for Tiger II vs E75 but switched
Tiger II feels like it has much stronger armor as a tier 8 vs when I’m in a tier 9 E75 has a easily penetrable lower plate

[tepid lily]

I’m the one farming them and realizing how weak the turret really is

[violet timber]

Nah E75 armor profile is way stronger at its tier

[solid gate]

For me it was the opposite. Didn't really like the Tiger II tbh, but I loved the E75

[tepid lily]

Some tanks feel strange because of this. In some ways they get really strong but in other regards they lose certain aspects of what made the tier below it shine

[valid gale]

Emil 2s turret is pretty bad tbh it gets buttered easily through standard gold

[solid gate]

It has less base mm than the tier 8s turret even

[violet timber]

With just 6 degrees of gun dep it’s already over 340mm effective armor

[upbeat isle]

The Polish heavy and the Italian TD lines are solid. Or so I'm told (again, I'm only at t6 with both but the Bossotto TD is a beast)

[tepid lily]

And I thought I was the only one with this opinion 🤣

[tepid lily]

This with improved hardening?

[violet timber]

Nope

It’s essentially a 50/50 whether 340 HEAT pen will go through.If you run enhanced armor it becomes a 0% chance, and it’s not even full gun dep

[upbeat isle]

@solid gate actually yeah the 60TP line would be a good one to start with if you're finding the E100 or the E50m lines aren't fun. Try all 3 for a few tiers tho.

[solid gate]

Thx

[queen hazel]

https://medal.tv/games/wot-blitz/clips/1WRRhAYVWsBpkH/d1337EoIvFJ7?invite=cr-MSxrRlosMjE1NDk4MzcxLA do i have 2engines or what wargaming

[safe acorn]

In an unrelated discussion
Y'all familiar with Marvel's What If?

WG should hire some voice actors
Create a plotline and use their tanks (e.g what if the T30 was deployed in Operation Downfall)

[keen swallow]

Hi

I just opened 3 crates and got 3 tanks, are they worth using? Concept 1B, AMX 30 1er prot and AMX defender

[blissful cave]

Yoooo concept 1B I love that tank it’s one of my favorites in the game

[safe acorn]

Everything except the AMX

[blissful cave]

30 prot is becoming a collector next update so it’ll sell for gold if it’s not a tank you think you’ll use

[safe acorn]

Oh wait to clarify
The defender

The AMX-30 1 eeh urrr is pretty good

[keen swallow]

Im so new to the game lmao

[safe acorn]

Wait what

[keen swallow]

What should I do in game as both of those

[safe acorn]

Wait what's your tech tree highest tier

[safe acorn]

Ya might wanna get 2 tech tree Tier X's first

[safe acorn]

Once that's done you can sorta understand what you're gonna be up against and be more appreciative of the crate tanks you got

[keen swallow]

😭 I dont know if they are good, the ones i got,

[safe acorn]

they are, you'll know it in time

[keen swallow]

Okay how should I play the Concept and AMX

[safe acorn]

Concept is a hull down abuser
AMX 1er is a flanker more akin to the Leopard PTA and 1

[keen swallow]

Okay let me ttry

[coarse blade]

Wheras the Pta suffers more.

[safe acorn]

Much more

[keen swallow]

It didnt go great

[coarse blade]

Happens alot

Wait which vehicle

[keen swallow]

the amx

[zenith shadow]

1 E-100
2 maus
3 JGPZ E-100
4 VK72
5 E50M
6 Leopard 1
7 grille 15
this is the order i would go for german list

[coarse blade]

Which amx.

[keen swallow]

30 1er

[safe acorn]

Told you

[coarse blade]

Yeaa....

It is a medium so i'm not surprised.

You have to play some armored heavies that requires low skill. That way you'll slowly learn, and adapt to certain playstyle.

[keen swallow]

So the concept?

[whole gulch]

? I liked the pta, maybe just my playstyle though

[safe acorn]

The old PTA?

[whole gulch]

it got debuffed?

[keen swallow]

first game with the amx 30

[safe acorn]

Nono the old PTA was much worse than the recent one

[whole gulch]

ah I liked the new one, 3k dpm is pretty high

[safe acorn]

The old one
The one I played was abysmal

[coarse blade]

Well..

It is a tank with a basic play style basically "Hulldown", as the name implies, hide the Hull/Body and only expose the turret, you have to move back and forth to bait some shots. If there's no existing enemy on the sight, please leave that spot, also in high tiers don't wander off alone, the team tends to get steamrolled/annihilated instantly if the team is scattered

I meant the concept 1 b

[keen swallow]

Ah okay ty

[safe acorn]

Please just play tech tree vehicles first in the meantime

[whole gulch]

ah that damage is ok, but try to grind your way up before playing high tiers

[keen swallow]

I cant i need 100k gold to get the leopard pta

[safe acorn]

????

[whole gulch]

please do not spend gold on free xp

[coarse blade]

@keen swallow also, getting Leopard 1 as your first tier 10 is a bad idea, this tank reqires high skill, unless your willing to exchange your mental health from playing that thing, you might learn How to survive and not take shots.

[safe acorn]

I can't stand by your statement since I got Leo 1 as my first T10 and enjoyed it besides PTA but to each their own

[coarse blade]

On the additional Note;

• Do not exchange your golds for Free Xps, they can be earn easily through battles after battles

• Do not exchange your golds for Credits, they can be earned easily through battles after battles.

[whole gulch]

I wishI had this much talent

[safe acorn]

Get good, more credits and free exp

[coarse blade]

Personal preference is an amazing mechanism of a Human mind.

[safe acorn]

It is what makes us human

[keen swallow]

second game in the amx 30

[coarse blade]

You're improving..

Atleast.

[safe acorn]

Trust me I think people grinding M48 should have more attention to then people grinding Leopard 1

[whole gulch]

something wrong with the m48? i just got the m46

[keen swallow]

But ive grinded so far to get it, it would take forever to get another X tank no?

[coarse blade]

Nothing wrong it's great, it's just the M46 is utterly trash.

[safe acorn]

M46 without any upgraded modules, full crew, full equipment and provisions is an abysmal experience

[whole gulch]

darn

[safe acorn]

Trust me I was an American patriot before I played the M46 full stock

Was never the same again

[whole gulch]

trust me rushing to get a tier x is not good for fun or mental health, stick to tiers you enjoy

[coarse blade]

If it was before. It would take months to get a Tier 10 heck even just 2-3 weeks if you nolife it. But now you can progress from Tier 5 to Tier 10 is just few days.

[honest rampart]

Nahhh, the VK 72.01 (K) is just straight up better then the E 100, and depending on your skill the Leopard 1 should be in first place