vehicles-discussion

[dim pollen]

It takes a hell long time even after using boosters

Tbh the crew mastery thing is really dumb way to keep the players spending their gold and coins

[winged cairn]

what is better? the Vk 45.02A or the Tiger 2 im think of which one to get next after grinding the russian kv4

And which one is better? the Ferdinand or the jagdpanther 2?

[lyric copper]

Tiger 2

[winged cairn]

ok ty

[solid gate]

JPanther II is generally considered better

[winged cairn]

do you know why tho?

[remote kindle]

Cuz ferdi is slow and has t7 armor

Jp2 is just better

[winged cairn]

ok
And should i go for the pershing line or the t32 line?

[lyric copper]

both

[solid gate]

What do you think of the M48?

[lyric copper]

top tier 10 medium

[solid gate]

I was considering doing it, the line seems more fun than the soviet one tbh

[remote kindle]

Sup @lyric copper

[winged cairn]

im not sure what to grind, this is my new account because i lost my main account so im starting a new one. Anyways what should i keep grinding on? i only have tiger 1 jagdpanzer 4 and kv4

[solid gate]

Tiger I line is going to be the easiest to use from these options

[winged cairn]

ok

and what should i grind next i have panther but stock and i also have vk 36p stock

[knotty cairn]

Hey guys

How can I get the new T67

[violet timber]

Do damage

[knotty cairn]

I mean how can I know am doing the quest

[violet timber]

It will show up in the quest...

[knotty cairn]

Oh thank bro

[sullen gale]

They are using them as spgs. Just firing HE from behind the lines.

[balmy compass]

Tbf Ukraine has been given some retrofitted T-55’s to use

[real gulch]

Yo, is this like, any vehicles discussion?

[sullen cloud]

Yes

[wary summit]

And as VBIEDs just as how the IS uses the Honda Civics and Toyota Corollas

[real gulch]

How big should I make my doors?

[sullen gale]

Oh yeah. Those videos are crazy. They do that with MTLBs as well. Apparently they dont just put loose explosives in, but aerial bombs (supposedly a FAB-250 or something)

[wary summit]

Better to have an actual bomb than an overglorified firework

[wary summit]

60cm length, 50cm width is usually a good start

[sullen gale]

Whether or not they actually do anything, they must have a pretty powerful psychological effect. Given how scared US soldiers have been of vbieds made out of civilian vehicles, i can only imagine seeing a remote controlled tank vbied (you cant take that out with small arms)

[wary summit]

That's the fun part where the opps have to rely on placed mines and use the precious ATGMs to take it out

[sullen gale]

Lmao a new javelin costing 75k is probably more expensive than a beater MTLB filled with det cord and frag bombs

[wary summit]

That's the financial cost of war for ye

[sullen gale]

Same with the drones. 800 dollar mavic with an rpg-7 warhead on it and there goes a 500k dollar tank

[faint pelican]

How do I play the all 90.01p

Vk*

[safe acorn]

Yk imagine if we could strap RPG-29 tubes on a placement and stack it behind a T-90

Like a Matilda Hedgehog

[novel dragon]

Yes hello I need to talk about the object 268/4 penetration problem

Like it's severely bad condition penetration

[wary summit]

It's a joke tank unsurprisingly

[novel dragon]

Wdym by that

[safe acorn]

It's a joke

[novel dragon]

Like how it's a joke tank but it's a good heavy armour and deals dmg but my problem is that the penetration is cringe and it's is like a kinda of scam of something that I don't. Deserve something better like I lost my box tank and su85i premium tanks in the CIS server for no reason why they do that for

That hurts my damnation emotional feelings

[hexed spoke]

Sounds like it’s just a good meat shield for a tank destroyer

[novel dragon]

You kidding me are you like seriously why isn't possible

[desert obsidian]

And this?

Big ass gun

[novel dragon]

You know what forgot this conversation because it's not necessary to my life right now because this is unacceptable to this abomination that they couldn't even fixed the darn penetration

[desert obsidian]

Yeah but its verí gut tank in warthunder and i like IT but i world of tank is piece od sht

[turbid yacht]

That's so big 😍

[novel dragon]

Not that the object 268/4

[desert obsidian]

Yeah. German bias

[turbid yacht]

No russian bias in wt?

[hexed spoke]

Is that a sturmtiger?

[desert obsidian]

Noooo this objeckt

[desert obsidian]

Yeah it
is

[turbid yacht]

How much does this tank costsm

[hexed spoke]

Bro that’s one of my favorites just because it’s so ridiculous 😂

[desert obsidian]

About 500evro

[novel dragon]

What in the lord fada is that thing

[turbid yacht]

Damn that's expensive for a pixel tank

[desert obsidian]

Objekt 279 Can survuve atome bomb

[hexed spoke]

Germans just strapped a morter to some wheels and called it a tank 😂

[novel dragon]

Ok iam leaving good day gentle man

[hexed spoke]

Yeah I was gonna say a very good tank no armor pen but like big round and good armor

[desert obsidian]

Have Nice day

[turbid yacht]

It's designed to survive nuclear bomb

[hexed spoke]

Ok I didn’t know that but that’s amazing

[desert obsidian]

Yes but in warthunder that tank survive it

[desert obsidian]

Yeah that's it but has 4traks ,🤣

[safe acorn]

a blast from*

[turbid yacht]

Yes 👍

[desert obsidian]

You think, I think too

[hexed spoke]

😂

[desert obsidian]

Kinda weird
Hahah

[hexed spoke]

Yeah guess they really wanted to make this tank survivability to go through the roof

[desert obsidian]

And this plane has got smiling face in tail

[hexed spoke]

Perfect 👌

[desert obsidian]

Yeah I like it. If you do it call me 🙂

[hexed spoke]

Ah I don’t think I can but I would

[turbid yacht]

I don't see the smile

[hexed spoke]

Do German tanks have a specialty like are they better at something then all other tanks?

[desert obsidian]

Now ? @turbid yacht

[hexed spoke]

I see it

[turbid yacht]

Neat,

[desert obsidian]

Huh

What can you guys can say about Sherman

[hexed spoke]

It’s very American

[desert obsidian]

In from Slovakia an I put in this slovakia flag

[somber zealot]

What would this be called

[desert obsidian]

Anh war about t34

[hexed spoke]

Russian death fridge

[somber zealot]

sure

[desert obsidian]

It's that kv2 on top of Germans aa leopard ?

[valid gale]

Strv 81 or centurion

[turbid yacht]

Vk 100.01 p ausf b

[desert obsidian]

Why they destroy kv 2

[blissful cave]

It was the tank that got me into tanks I love and appreciate it

[desert obsidian]

Think about L3/33 + maus ?? 😄

[turbid yacht]

A perfect match made in heaven

[desert obsidian]

But it's funny to play

[turbid yacht]

Play it on the highest br

[desert obsidian]

Bro I'm Oli on 4.7 in amerika nad Russia. Italiano i never play hehe. Only this tank

[wary summit]

Unironically the Conway

[fresh maple]

Is the massive container with it to buy with gold???

[solid gate]

i alr saw him 3 times and he always targets me whatever i do even if hell die first

[halcyon lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[solid gate]

Hes the one with a skill issue since he gets carrier by magnate and he still dies every time we meet in a fight

[halcyon lotus]

you’re the one who has skill issue since you keep crying that you loss to a trash player. seriously if you lose or die to someone who’s worse than you then you have no right to complain about others

[solid gate]

I dont remember saying that i died to them, brainworker.

[thorny smelt]

🍿

[solid gate]

I lost my Obj 252U vigilant.Now its aviable again.Should i get it or not?

[fresh maple]

Is the massive container with it to buy with gold???

[icy wadi]

don't bypass slurs btw

[calm drum]

ricksanchez111 was muted.

kanoista123 has been warned.

[safe acorn]

While you were having fun
Watching Grand Tour
It's funny how Hammond supposedly made an APC with triple the thickness of the Abrams A1 turret front

That's like what 1500mm of NERA all-round

[quasi wedge]

Which equipments, consumables and provisions should I use ?

[rich blade]

I play like this

@quasi wedge

[quasi wedge]

ok

[rich blade]

I would definitly use HP and full aiming equip, Cali or rammer is preference ig

[wise moth]

I also endorse this setup, although, I personally drop the extra rep kit for reactive, and then run consumable delivery system to compensate

[karmic saffron]

Why is m60 only 58k to sell?

[blissful cave]

I think it was originally given for free a long time ago but that was long before I started so I don’t remember anything about it but I think YouTubers said some people got it for free some didn’t

[sullen gale]

This chat has become warthunder i guess😂. Enjoy this old clip of me making a perfect shot through a panther’s mg port

[sullen gale]

Depends vs kinetic or chemical. Abrams turret is about 800mm iirc vs kinetic but a lot more against chemical

[safe acorn]

Nono I'm just counting raw NERA

[sullen gale]

Yes but against what? Modern reactive armor effective thickness is different against different munitions

[safe acorn]

Dude I don't think Hammond is that into tanks so I'm just assuming he's taken raw NERA like everyone else does

[sullen gale]

Do you mean the actual thickness in mm of the armor element?

[safe acorn]

Yeah that's what raw means

[sullen gale]

Ah, gotchu. Raw thickness is completely irrelevant for composite and reactive, so i was confused as to what you meant

[rich blade]

yep, when using double consumable, i would definitly run the shoorter cooldown

[fluid breach]

Are the russians mediums any good? (T62A line)

[rich blade]

the T62A got extremly armored for a medium and because of that its pretty decent at what it does: sitting hulldown infront of other mediums and annoy them, the gun is rather weak but works, mobillity is decent aswell, I would no cap say T62A is one of the best mediums atm especially for newer players

the line is okayyyy, the tier 6 is pretty decent, however the tier 7 quite lacking again, the tier 8 is alright and the tier 9 is good I would say

[fluid breach]

Which lines would you suggest to start as a new WoTB players?

At the moment I have the KV-4 (a lot of people said that the IS-4 is the worst T10 at the moment so ehhh, on top of that the KV-4 feels very slow and without the last gun the penetration is pretty weak) and the CC 64 (just unlocked, I used my free exp for the turret and the engine)
I could buy the T-34 for the T62A line, the type T-34 for the WZ 113G FT line, the IS for the IS-7 line and I have the PZ. IV D for the E-100 line (and/or the VK72.01K, I still don't know)

[rich blade]

for Heavies, either 60TP or Is7

for mediums either T62A, WZ-121 or E50M

the first of those I would definitly recommend over the second option, also I would definitly start with heavies

[fluid breach]

Why so many people suggest the 60TP line? Which are his strong points?

[rich blade]

the tank has a incredible simple armor layout (turret = haha funny strong) has some gundepression to work around and hits hard, and its not that slow

usually high alpha is better for newbies, since its hard for them to "create" opportunities to shoot the enemy, better do 3x 600 damage then 3x 400

also the tier 8 is incredible strong for the line, so far every player that I recommended that tank to, liked it (53TP)

[wise moth]

Only downside to the 60tp line is that it's a little boring

[rich blade]

yea but thats like your last worry as a newbie

after that I would grind a medium anyway, to get some diffrent gameplay

[fluid breach]

I see, I really need to sort my garage out because I don't want to commit the same error I did on WoT PC: open too many lines at the same time

Thank you for your time and for your tips.
Now I am thinking about selling the KV-4 (sadly because on WoT PC I got the ST-I and I could buy the IS-4 and I liked it a lot) and focusing on the 60TP for the heavies, T62A for the mediums, no lights (I never knew how to play them properly apart in certain maps) and italians for the TDs... maybe just another line of TDs (the ones without turret such as the chinese ones)

Why is the 60TP line boring?

[hexed spoke]

Can someone please explain who’s idea it was to put the kv-1 all its stat points into strength

Like this is terrible but it hit hard 😂

[lyric copper]

use the detailed stat card instead of the brief overview

[hexed spoke]

Oh I didn’t know that rule but here is the detailed one

[lyric copper]

also the 85mm is better than the 122mm

[hexed spoke]

Ah yes thanks that is the one I use what’s the point of high damage if you can penetrate them

[pliant wigeon]

Is WG still gonna make the t55A a collector?

[sacred tartan]

first thought - why?

i know it will be free amount of 5.000 gold, like 452k or whatever else, but why? isn't it 50/50 supportive medium at IX tier with nice percentage for making 💸?

i think changing it to collectible tank, make him worse while earning credits

[valid gale]

It’s getting buffed

The real question besides why because that’s giving players free 5500 gold which is awfully generous of WG but their changing it from its nation to blitz nation for no reason

[onyx raven]

It’s been classed under the Hybrid Nation for its entire existence in Blitz.

[hexed spoke]

Can anyone tell me if the kv-2 is actually good? It looks terrible imo

[lyric copper]

meme tank with the 152mm

okay tank with the 107mm

[hexed spoke]

Ah thank you I kinda wanted it but honestly it dosent look that good after looking into it 😂

[dim pollen]

@hexed spoke u will enjoy the game till KV 3. Later, ur experiences will become boring as hell.
KV 2 is a meme tank. Sometimes u hit sometimes u miss.

Better buy IS 2 and IS 3 instead. The tier X IS 7 is quite busted nowadays

[hexed spoke]

Ok thanks man

[dim pollen]

U are wc

[real gulch]

WG when?

PanzerJäger IV mit 10.5 cm Pak

[valid gale]

Already had one , and it still exists

[real gulch]

Not Emil (This turret is fully traversable)

[scenic garnet]

Hello ! I have a question, is the Sheridan Missle tank still included in 2024 as an event?

On july ..?

[kindred wren]

The vehicle is called Pz.Sfl. IVb and it‘s an artillery (in fact it‘s an infantry field gun and not a PAK).
The tank destroyer based on the Pz. IV is the Di cker Max, not the Sturer Emil (the Sturer Emil is based on the VK 30.01 (H)).

Although not historical, the Pz. IV used to have a 10,5cm gun in game, which was modelled after the StuH 42 10,5cm gun, which is what dogofwisdom referred to

[violet timber]

Gargoyle is in game as well

[thorny smelt]

That's just Pz. IV H with 10,5 cm gun

[high delta]

If you know how to angle, the KV-1 is probably the most overpowered heavy tank in the game

[solid fractal]

It's already under Blitz nation, isn't it?

[violet timber]

Which is what we’re talking about…

[blissful cave]

It’s my cousins birthday so todays tank of the day is his favorite tank the Sentinel
More specifically the 17 pounder AC IV he likes the sentinel as a whole but this is the best one

[solid gate]

I was today years old when i learned that the M-V-YOH turret change if you switch the gun 💀

[real gulch]

Oh okay. (But then why is Pz. Sfl IVc allowed then?)

[harsh python]

which way

[harsh elm]

121

[harsh python]

why not 113? js asking

[plucky summit]

113

[meager spindle]

just get both, why not

[harsh elm]

other tanks can do its job similar/better now, its still solid but its also kind of bland to play rn imo compared to the 121

[harsh python]

alright'

[harsh python]

which one first??

[meager spindle]

i'd suggest the 121, since it's pretty good currently, the 131 is similar just in heavy form.

[harsh python]

alright, thank you guys

[harsh python]

wanna platoon?

[meager spindle]

playing teardown currently

[harsh python]

||okay||

[violet timber]

113

[harsh python]

uh

[sullen gale]

I beg to differ. The best sentinel is double barrel derp sentinel:

Twin 88mm hesh and heat dispensers

[blissful cave]

From what I read I think the double barrel sentinel was made purely to test how much recoil force the sentinel can handle before mounting the 17 pounder

[wary summit]

I doubt they had HEAT or HESH back in the early 40's

[blissful cave]

Hesh is a postwar thing I think

But tank encyclopedia did say that the sentinel was one of the first tanks to successfully mount the 17 pounder

[rotund gull]

https://tenor.com/view/jackie-chan-strong-muscular-man-muscular-jackie-chan-strong-strong-man-gif-20384325

[late yew]

Alguien habla español?

[rich fulcrum]

bazooka: "allow me to introduce my self" (heat existed during WWII)

[violet timber]

They did have HEAT

[wary summit]

Thought the bazooka came in '44 but apparently '42

My bad

[sullen gale]

Hesh is postwar i think but HEAT is actually pretty old. Shaped charge anti-tank munitions existed since the 1930s

[glad flax]

What's a good heavy for beginners?

[halcyon lotus]

60TP Lewandowskiego, IS-7, T110E5 and E-100 are great picks for new players

[sullen gale]

Amx-50b 😏

[tulip steppe]

at what tier? or you mean a good line for beginners?

[glad flax]

Line

[honest creek]

Bet the average blitz player haven’t heard about APDS or some sort of stuff

[rotund gull]

The liitel History of the Swiss Panzerwagen 39 "Praga". From this type was buying online 24 Tanks from the CKD in the CSR. On 1937 visite the Swiss Deliagtion German and Sweden without Tanks Modles to Buy for the Army. The Pz 1 and the L 60 / 120 was not good so the see this pretty Tank in the CSR. From 1937 -1938 testing the Prototype. In the years 1938 - 1940 the first 12 tanks were delivered, in single parts and without armament, due to the occupation of Germany only so possible. The last 12 were manufactured in Switzerland. Overall, the Swiss army was satisfied with its tank specifically and Surin's designs in general. It's not surprising that the Pzw 39 lasted in the Swiss army for many decades. The last order for spare parts was made in 1947, which allowed the tanks to serve for a while longer. In August of 1948, the tanks were removed from the tank companies, and replaced with G-13 (Hetzer) tank destroyers. The Pzw 39 was finally retired in 1960.

1. The initial form of the Praga LTL, armed with a 37 mm Skoda A 4 Beta gun. 2. The A4 version with the new Turret. 3. The Swiss Version LTL-H. 4. The Prototype of the LTL-H. 5. The Panzerwagen 39 Praga withe the 24mm Pz Kan 38. 6. CH was Yellow and was the same Symbolic as Sweden we are Neutral. On PC version is the Tank in the CSR Tech Tree as a Tier 3 Prem. @blissful cave What do you think of the tank. Quelle: Tank Archives.ca

[meager spindle]

too long, didn't read

[tulip steppe]

is7 line will keep you in battles linger because of their armour but its a very slow style of play, long reloads but armour keeps you in the battle

[dim pollen]

The Kranvagn line is good too. U can try tht since autoloaders are a meta nowadays

[sullen gale]

Yeah probably not. Sabot is just represented as apcr, and heatfs is just heat. Even hesh is just high pen HE, even tho irl it was not meant against soft targets, but defeated armor using spalling

[honest creek]

APHEBC must be confusing then

[sullen gale]

I wish aphe and solid shot were different shell types. Solid shot should do a bit less damage but have generally better characteristics against armor (especially flat pen, since solid shot doesnt shatter as easily)

[honest creek]

The damage of soild shot is less then APHE since the shell contained less gunpowder in it

[sullen gale]

Gunpowder? Aphe has a high explosive filler. Hence ap”HE”. Also supposedly the effectiveness rates of solid shot and aphe were relatively similar. However, against big targets especially the HE filler was helpful

[honest creek]

As in TNT equalment, I mean

[valid gale]

It kinda depends on the target

APHE sucks as an AP round because the design has to accommodate for explosive filler which every nation realized post WW2 it’s not needed for AP rounds at all

Although APFSDS is pretty much solid shot but final form

[sullen gale]

Well most modern apfsds spontaneously ignites on impact so not exactly just inert solid shot

[valid gale]

All projectiles due upon certain speed or energy , railguns demonstrate the phenomena , darts don’t have explosive filler, the DU round however does have a nasty property

[wheat summit]

which one is gud?

[halcyon lotus]

60TP, Kranvagn and Minotauro are good picks

[kindred wren]

Honestly, I don‘t know what WG‘s reasoning is for leaving out the Pz. Sfl. IVb

[deep belfry]

Panther 8,8 or Panther II?

[halcyon lotus]

neither

[deep belfry]

Bruh

[regal bough]

Hey everyone, does anyone know what PT stands for in PT-91?

[wheat summit]

how about Vz.55

[halcyon lotus]

pretty decent tank but i recommend the 60TP, Kranvagn and Minotauro more because they’re more interesting tanks to play

[nocturne smelt]

W bots on reroll acc

[wheat summit]

thanks

[nocturne smelt]

Don’t forget vk 72

[tranquil trench]

Best hulldown tank?

[rapid lance]

Good game everyone

[burnt ember]

Out of these two premium T10
Which one:
Carro 45t or Strv K

[halcyon lotus]

Carro 45t any freaking day (unless it’s pre-nerfed Strv K then i’d pick Strv K)

[burnt ember]

I’m trying to save some gold to restore one of them, so I just need to gather other’s opinions

[halcyon lotus]

SMV CC 64

[tranquil trench]

Well how about a Tier X hulldown tank

[limber bison]

Wargamings should add the Russian Lada. Goes 100 kmph per hour for 2 minutes before it engine catches fire and it explodes. It has 5 mm in the front and 3 mm of glass. And if it falls from 10 m. Explodes. If hit by any shell. Breaks all of it it's module. If it is rammed. It flies to the map border and explodes. If it makes a little to sharp turn. Explodes. If it reversed just after going front. Explodes. It has a Russian man with a RPG and will has 800 dispersion when moving and .201 zhen still.Make it come in crates. 60$ per crate.

[polar granite]

Horrible idea, bro literally wants to have the worst tank ever huh?

[limber bison]

Yes

[rancid fog]

What abilites do cs-53, tier 9 and cs-63 have in mad games?

[halcyon lotus]

i’d say kranvagn

[plucky summit]

The tank itself is kinda new, so

[sullen gale]

Yeah, pyrophoric toxic metals are not very safe to have in a small sealed space lol

[valid gale]

It’s in favor of the round DU self sharpens strengthening in flight and impact and the penetration acts like a vacuum sucking all of that I.

In* it’s really nasty of a round

[subtle frost]

whats the tank with the highest xp requirement for a mastery? i would guess the 183/4005/leo 1

[thorn girder]

.

[livid hound]

Obj 263 have legendary camo?

[tranquil trench]

Oh alr

[solid fractal]

Yes, the gray wolf.

[livid hound]

Thank you!

[sullen gale]

Yeah the tip fractures in a way where the fragments come off diagonally leaving the tip even sharper as it continues to penetrate

[sullen cloud]

@subtle frost probably mino

@sullen gale sabot DU rounds or what?

[sullen gale]

Yeah du dart ammo. Self-sharpening

[sullen cloud]

@sullen gale you thought about what happens when it hits chobum I think I spelled it right

[sullen gale]

Chobham? Chobham is just a british composite. They don’t even use it anymore, now they use Dorchester. But self sharpening works against pretty much any composite or nera array (not era i assume)

[sullen cloud]

Yes chobham

[blissful cave]

Todays tank of the day is Kampfpanzer 30t (known in game as 50t wargaming just loves making things heavier than they actually were don’t they)

[onyx raven]

It’s not really a real design, just a hypothetical one.

[blissful cave]

Oh yea I forgot to mention that part here it was from a defense magazine for “what a tank of the future could look like” and wasn’t an actual development intended concept

In the actual post I made on it tho I made sure to emphasize this tank wasn’t truly a real concept
but the design actually did come from somewhere and wasn’t just something made up for a game so I consider that real enough for TOD

Something like SMV CC 64 there’s literally nothing I can say about it there’s zero history to it and what could I possibly say about it for a historic summary

[kindred wren]

The history of this tank begins with the idea of a branch of Italian tank destroyers within the video game World of Tanks

[rotund sonnet]

:)

[blissful cave]

I don’t think that’s SMV 64?

[rotund sonnet]

Stock

[rotund sonnet]

its the closest one i can find

[blissful cave]

Eh I see some resemblance I guess but that image looks more MBT like
(I had to rebuy the tank just to see it with the stock stuff)

[rotund sonnet]

The whole mino line is just kpz concepts tho

With some differences and italian guns

Turns out concept 1 was part of the MBT 70 project

[blissful cave]

Concept 1B?

[echo tinsel]

just guys tell me please, why did wargamming create a voice for finns only for a tier I, please just add the bt42 😦

[blissful cave]

Yea I knowwww just give us our Finnish tank
Also my game is set to Finnish so I can use the crew voice for any tank if I just turn off National crew setting : )

I like to use it for my Swedish tanks (no Swedish voice in game) and tanks that Finland actually used like ISU-152,KV-1 and T-127(basically T-50)

[echo tinsel]

i think the problem is there is only two tank that finns made : vickers and bt42. so wargamming can't make finns line

[blissful cave]

Yea so no tech tree but BT-42 as a stand alone premium we need

[echo tinsel]

yes

[blissful cave]

Also neither did Poland but that didn’t stop them both tech trees are entirely fake

[echo tinsel]

literally

[blissful cave]

40TP actually is real tho but heavily altered the design exists but it was a medium tank named 25TP Habich being a 40 ton heavy was made up for no reason other than forcing it into the heavy line but all the others from what I know are entirely made up

Czech heavy line is made up too

[echo tinsel]

50% of tank in this game are fake

so they can do same for finns :/

[blissful cave]

Surprisingly no
I wanted to find that out for myself so I with the help of others wanted to put together a list of every real vs fake and like 90% are real

[echo tinsel]

yes it's a way of speaking, but hey, if they made a false line for the Polish with some tank which is false they can do the same for the Finns

[blissful cave]

But things like incorrect names,class marking or small nitpicks like slightly incorrect armament I wasn’t too picky of

[echo tinsel]

yes but the main of the tank is fake

[blissful cave]

Also funky fact we also have a prototype that hardly much is known about that tries to make a new turret that mounts the charioteer gun onto the comet hull

[echo tinsel]

oh nice

[echo tinsel]

or if one day they do a sponsorship again with girls und panzer they can add the "BT42 jatkosota SP", because I don't care what the bt42 is like I just want there to be one in the game XD

[echo tinsel]

its literally a charioteer 🤨

[blissful cave]

You already know I’d love that

[echo tinsel]

your profile picture says a lot XD

[blissful cave]

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/finnish-84-mm-comet-tank-destroyer-project-panssarintorjuntavaunu-comet-84-mm-tykillä.42104/

[echo tinsel]

nice website, I didn't know about it, but are you sure this project is real?

[blissful cave]

Can’t say for certain but I’m pretty sure it is

[echo tinsel]

its cool, and this is the only finnish tank project referenced on this site?

[blissful cave]

Someone left a comment that says we had plans to make our own tank and left a link but I’ll read that later
And I’ll have to see for myself how trustworthy that is and if it sounds real

[echo tinsel]

that would be really cool

because Finland has its own model of military vehicle but they are not tanks but wheeled vehicles

so the creation of a new Finnish tank could be really nice

[blissful cave]

Yea we make pretty everything BUT tanks :/
Like at parola they have several kinds of military vehicles made in Finland but I don’t know much about em my area is tanks specifically

[echo tinsel]

indeed, unfortunately tanks are not Finland's strong point

[blissful cave]

Like look at this guy

[echo tinsel]

omg he is so cool XD

[blissful cave]

Just make a tank that looks like this that’d be so cool

[echo tinsel]

but I don't know if this will happen, because Finland buys vehicles from other countries rather than creating a new Finnish vehicle

[blissful cave]

Yea :/

Like at least do what sweden does and just “make leopard 2’s within your country with some modifications” and then call it your own tank and give it your own name

Finland goes crazy on tank modifications we can easily do that

[echo tinsel]

there is something really good which is that for a few years Finland has been increasing its military budget so perhaps the possibility of creating their own models of tanks

[blissful cave]

Yooooo

Everybody else is making their own MBT’s we should have our own too

[echo tinsel]

maybe

[hexed spoke]

Ok so from what I’ve heard kv-2 Is a meme tank should I get it for kv-3 or got down the other path and kv-1s

[rotund sonnet]

Yea

[harsh python]

worth?

[violet timber]

Yes

[solid gate]

I don't really buy premium tanks if they're below t8 or 9

[thorn light]

These tanks were supposed to be built, but there are no plans or models...
That's what they were supposed to look like from what they found out from rumors and conversations of some constructors. that's what wg said about these vehicles in video xd

[blissful cave]

They always claim random stuff of “oh it was supposed to be built” even for ones that were made up or ones where that’s just not true like Kpz 50 describes it like it was an actual concept and doesn’t say where it’s actually from

If there’s any proof of the TP’s existence I’d like to see it if there’s any I think they’re cool tanks

[onyx raven]

The 40TP is based on the designs of a medium tank (part of the “25TP” program)

[blissful cave]

I did mention that it’s the only one that I know of being real

I’ve seen people try and say 60TP is real and based on a mashup of some other Soviet thing but I don’t see it doesn’t look enough like it for me to be convinced

[harsh python]

whats your opinion on sta-1? for me, one of the baddest 8tier med

[blissful cave]

Agree i think it’s one of those tech trees that are bad on purpose just for grinding purposes

[lyric copper]

its not that bad

great pen and a low profile, cupola can be used to bait shots

[ember bramble]

why stb 1 is so good?

[solid gate]

Should I grind Foch155 ?

[halcyon lotus]

sta1 is actually good, definitely not one of the worst t8 meds. though a slight DPM and mobility buff would be nice

[meager spindle]

A major buff it could receive is the fact that the anime girl on the rin camo should stay on the tank when you're in battle

[solid fractal]

💀💀

[whole frigate]

most overpowered team #premium bias

[violet timber]

Looks a lot more like #premiumunbias seeing your results

[winged cairn]

what should i got for? the tiger P or tiger 1? i have both but im not sure which one to grind

[glass otter]

both are good, depends what t10 you want really

[winged cairn]

ok

[winged cairn]

but tiger p has 3 t10 tanks to grind

[glass otter]

im not counting the ferdinand

[winged cairn]

ok

[wise moth]

Ferdinand low key broken

[solid gate]

is it just me or playing amx 12t is nightmare incarnate

[violet timber]

It’s a solid tank

[halcyon lotus]

just you

[solid gate]

oh well i guess its just 5 am lobbies

[short basin]

What if....is-7 with is-4 gun...call it IS-7M eh? Eh? Make it into a collectable tier 10

[violet timber]

No

Literally just play 260

[halcyon lotus]

fr

[blissful cave]

Yoo what💀
Did 4.5K damage in Kpz 50 and that was only class 2?

Also yea I bought back Kpz 50 and I’m really enjoying this tank and I’ve gotten pretty good with it quickly even though I’m not really a fan of playing mediums in tier 10 (the massive HP gap issue)

[halcyon lotus]

4.5K is fairly easy to do in tier X

[meager spindle]

me remembering when 2.5k would be an ace in the 50t:

[solar mango]

me remembering when doing 1k and a kill on the vz55 was an ace

[tame ridge]

I saw a tvp player legendary camo Řetěz X what dose it mean with the "X"?

[solid gate]

By the way is type 57 good and can you work with it?

[warped comet]

He got a amount of aces at a time for the legendary camo

[tame ridge]

Ah i see

[honest rampart]

You're kidding right 💀
That's not a buff my guy, that's a weeb issue. This game is about (fake) tanks and TDs, not about anime/girls
If you want tonk and female just play Panzermadel (<- idk what it is about, just heard about it) or watch GuP

[lyric copper]

satire

[honest rampart]

Also, petition to rename this channel to "Galarian-Quest-explaining-wether-tanks-are-real-or-not"

[honest rampart]

Yeah but srsly, this is a tank based game, not something for ppl that want anime shet. Ik that wargambling makes good money of it, but still

[harsh elm]

oh no theres anime in the game

anyway

[wary summit]

Cry WG the Amazon river with that

[honest rampart]

What 💀
Speak English bruh

[valid gale]

He’s also talking about a skin where the detail randomly fades in battle

[lyric copper]

also fun fact: there’s more anthropomorphised tanks made by WG

still waiting for them to add the borsig girl

[honest rampart]

Idk what you mean, so I just guessed it, correct me if I understood wrong.
First, he worded it wrong, at least imo. You can't "buff" a camo, you can improve it, but not buff. Yeah, it means the same, but generally speaking, if ppl talk about buffs/nerfs they mean, in the case of this game stats of a tank. Secondly, it's probably not there in battle because it maybe affects the armor highlight, which would give the STA-1 an advantage, or a disadvantge, because the girl would block the vision (partly)

[lyric copper]

not really since external camo details (such as added fenders or spaced armour screens) are now made highly translucent

[valid gale]

It’s client side only

[lyric copper]

so you’d zoom in and the girl would disappear

[honest rampart]

Idk if that's the same for the STA-1, as it's quite old iirc. And still, then the second point would apply

[lyric copper]

they can update it so it works like that

[honest rampart]

Wdym?

[valid gale]

God , client side means it’s only visible on the client or users end no one else can see it, like your replacing your model entirely or using an ugly crosshair

[lyric copper]

also how would it affect visibility

she sits on top of the cupola, not in front of it

[valid gale]

I’m still not sure if the spinosaur STB1 is missing its kill animation or not

[honest rampart]

Like those dumb flying attachments are already annoying on your screen, let alone a a person sized thing on top of your tank. (why I put those attachments on my tanks if they are annoying? Cause I didn't realize that when I put them on the tanks, and since I paid for them, I'm gonna "use" them)

[lyric copper]

🗿

imagine no infinite pumpkin

[harsh elm]

ong

[honest rampart]

xD

[lyric copper]

#KlaraWhen

[valid gale]

Odd thing to say

[rotund sonnet]

Slapped a polish 60tp name which was real on a concept soviet tank

[blissful cave]

Yea I guess I see it the turrets shape in game is more exaggerated with the curve from bowl to the gun area

[rotund sonnet]

"shashmurins wet dreams" thats what someone said about them

[blissful cave]

Wait 432 real

I previously couldn’t find anything on it and marked fake

[halcyon lotus]

<@&481447501690568709> this person above me has posted an image of that austrian painter with a mustache, can you take care of this? thanks

[valid gale]

This is like looking at old photos and realizing someone who wasn’t supposed to be there is

[calm drum]

chalton_101 was banned.

[valid gale]

I wanna point out why did he feel the need to post an image of him after posting drawings of the tanks then saying what’d he do if he was him

[covert holly]

any advice how to play with line prog 65?
i am on tier 7 ,and still learn how to play with prog line

[blissful cave]

They really put T54E2 a tank they sell for like 7k gold in the draw where it’ll cost over double that

[hasty plume]

Hello guys i am new but i need alot of coins

Any tips 4 me? I need 1 mil coins

[flint glade]

when will you put the Conqueror Mk. II ABP turret for the Conqueror tier IX? It's not our fault that you decided that the super conqueror wasn't as researchable online as it is on WOT console and WOT pc

[hasty plume]

Were can you see that

[lyric copper]

its already strong and getting even stronger

why does it need the "i rely on armour like a noob" turret

[violet timber]

Conq turret right now isn’t even bad

[flint glade]

that turret in wot pc is a bullet catcher literally the only function it has is to prevent them from using HEAT against you with APCR it offers 35 mm of armor I am referring to the design of the vehicle it is obvious that they will not add it for the simple reason that if they do What a joke the super conqueror would have, right?

[gentle forge]

I do love this. Whatever this is (think its a bug)

[meager spindle]

i'll forget that the GuP tanks are in blitz, the multiple anime themed legendary camos and other uses of anime in the game (including profile backsgrounds and avatars)

[blissful cave]

Which one do you want to hear about next ‘,:)

[sonic briar]

The coelian please

[violet timber]

Don’t forget Valkyria chronicles too

[dusky briar]

Guys, wdy think about tank Auto reloader. Kranvagn, minotauro and else that need to keep the Firts Bullet when you looking for dpm.. but its annoying when you just need 0.2 sec to reload but you shoot that shell and then you relized its your second bullet. I think its better when its need 0.2 sec or something is to automatic lock even we press shoot it will not shoot until its really Ready to Fire. Its has very light sound too cant even notice when in a crowd position. Better do autolock bullet when it 0.2 Remains or just make sound for clip more higher so its easy to notice

[blissful cave]

The what?

[lyric copper]

AA panther, never made

[meager spindle]

flak panther

[blissful cave]

This thing is pretty neat
I don’t really know anything about flak panzers or other anti air tanks in general

[meager spindle]

the concept was half built, ironically on WT it's replacement is a total fake

[lyric copper]

if you wanna start with SPAA, the M42 Duster is a good place to start (hull of the Type 64 in game)

[woeful sluice]

i just met maybe a new premium tank or something idk

[blissful cave]

Yea object 590 is upcoming

[lyric copper]

goofy aah low qual image

[woeful sluice]

ye, sry about the quality 💀💀💀

[raw spindle]

What is tech tree TVP T50/51 worth it to grind it?

[blissful cave]

Let’s goooo I just had the coolest game I’ve ever played
Grinding standard B rn and I won a 1v4 stand-off against tier 10’s (well 3 tier 10’s and a T95 which i think is the hardest tier 9 to take out) got 5 kills that game

Let’s goooo babeyyyy absolute clutch

[raw spindle]

With 3000 damage you should have got the mystery badge

[blissful cave]

Not only that 3.7k
I have no idea how that isn’t an ace

[raw spindle]

Since the update in 2022 the mystery badge has become increasingly difficult to obtain (in my opinion)

[blissful cave]

3.7k damage
5 kills
1v3 standoff badge
Take out higher tier tanks in a medium badge
Multiple higher tier kills

The standard B I’ve seen has a ridiculous ace bar like I had a game where I did like 4-5K damage I think (but nowhere as much of the cool stuff I did in this game like 1v4) and that was only like a class 2 or something

[raw spindle]

Are Italian tanks that good?

I want to grind European nation, but i don't know, What should I choose

[blissful cave]

You can do crazy things with the autoloaders

Th combination of their speed and constant autoloader like carro 45t is insane to play

Trying to unlock progetto 65 rn

[raw spindle]

I want to grind tvp t 50/51 just because mod skin, lol (I haven't do that yet)

[raw spindle]

Alright, i will try if my money enough

[blissful cave]

I had a 5K damage game in FV4005 a while ago that was super fun but somehow wasn’t my top damage game it’s STILL this one where I did like 5.3k damage in tiger II a tier 8

[blissful cave]

I got super lucky for carro I got like 3 crates and said that’s it when they re released it and got it on the 3rd one

[raw spindle]

I once got 5.9k damage on Vk 36.01H but for some reason after I sold the tank I lost it,🥲

[blissful cave]

I want to speed up the progress to progetto but I want to use my free xp to get BZ-75 day one if I have 825k and 50% offs all tiers is that more than plenty

If I were to use 200k of it to get progetto or maybe more like 175k

[raw spindle]

I've spent it all on German, Japanese, British tanks

[blissful cave]

Progetto is 250k no discount (using my 50% off on BZ which do you think will be more expensive) and I have 40k rn but I’ll use some of my x5’s before doing that so I’d be spending like ~175k to speed up

[kindred wren]

I usually calculate with around 1m xp for the entire branch with all modules (no discounts), and that is still a bit high in my experience

[blissful cave]

But with 50% offs for all tiers it’s probably not that much right if I get only the required modules for previous tiers

[kindred wren]

If you do that I guesstimate 500k

[blissful cave]

I just want to skip right to BZ-75 I don’t really have any interest in those fake tanks
BZ-75 is fake too but it looks a LOT like my favorite Chinese tank WZ-122-4

[kindred wren]

Maybe 600k

I can‘t guarantee anything but I am 99% certain that you will get it with 50% discounts and 800k free xp

[blissful cave]

Yea 800 is definitely enough with discounts but idk how much I’d really be allowed to use for speeding up to progetto I could just wait like 2 days that would probably make a lot more sense

BZ is coming out Wednesday isn’t it

[kindred wren]

That was the last estimate I heard

[blissful cave]

I swear I’ll be so disappointed if the next tech tree isn’t Swedish that’ll be another set of like 6 months just to hear what the next one will be

[kindred wren]

But they should have announced it by now… odd

[blissful cave]

No leak no announcement nothing we usually get something around when the current one drops

We only have one Swedish one like come on
Also Swedish tanks are my favorite country of tanks

[kindred wren]

The tank destroyers are unfortunately not really fitting for Blitz‘s gameplay

[blissful cave]

UDES or Strv 103 pleeeease babeyyyy

[kindred wren]

I just kind of hope for the mediums, as those could be cool

[blissful cave]

They gotta figure out something the Strv 103 is an iconic tank pretty much everyone loves

[kindred wren]

We can only wait and see, maybe one day

[blissful cave]

Otherwise we’ll just get stuck with more lame fakes like CS-63 and Vz55

[kindred wren]

I am kind of sympathetic towards Czech tanks

They had quite the impressive tanks designs in WW2

[blissful cave]

It’s funny how when I made my real vs fake list and found the vast majority of tanks are real the biggest concentration of fakes is EU tech tree

[kindred wren]

Because they were largely no tank designing nations

[blissful cave]

Guess who was tho and whose tech trees are all real?😏

[kindred wren]

And some of their tank designs were taken by other nations

Define real? At least project?

[blissful cave]

My definition of real is
The tank design existed in some form before the game’s creation and wasn’t created just for the game

[kindred wren]

USSR, Germany, USA (T92E1 and T28 are a bit questionable) and France are my guesses

[blissful cave]

So all blueprint concepts that actually existed I consider real
Even Kpz “50” (really 30) and Progetto 65 by definition are at least real they were drawings in defense magazines for what “tanks of the future” would look like but weren’t actual development concepts but the design existed and WG actually implemented those not improvised something on the spot for tech tree filler

Fake names don’t really bother me I only really care if the tank actually existed or not sometimes the tanks never got names and WG just had to give it one or some other reason

[kindred wren]

I already made my guesses

[blissful cave]

Ohh this

I was making the joke that Swedens tech trees are actually real when you said the EU’s aren’t big tank developing countries

[kindred wren]

Ah, yeah, fair enough

[blissful cave]

Kranvagn line is all real
Strv 103 and UDES 15/16 are real I’d need to double check the ones leading up to them tho

[kindred wren]

I mean even Italy is moderately designing tanks

[blissful cave]

For Italy what I know is their original line is all real (except P44 panthera) and TD semovente and bassotto are real but ends there but someone did tell me mino is at least based on something real but the design as a whole is not

[lusty orbit]

unfortunately most of the italian tanks were only designs

[kindred wren]

Yeah, Italy and tank design is a bit of a bitter sweet story

[lusty orbit]

look at this WW1 design

[blissful cave]

What Italy needs is its own tech tree so we get the low tiers that’s where all their iconic designs are

I want the M13/40’s and P40

[lusty orbit]

it looks a toy

[blissful cave]

We have semovente that’s built on M13/40 hull (13/40 14/41 and 15/42 are nearly the same it’s tedious to separate em I don’t mind which one we get)
And we have the P43’s the concept upgrade to P40 but no P40

P40 is my favorite Italian tank I hope we get it

[lusty orbit]

i think we all want the l3/33

[blissful cave]

Yeees CV33 tier 1 babeyyy

[lusty orbit]

or the celere sahariano

[blissful cave]

CV33 M13/40 and P40 I want to see in the game

[merry surge]

My first 10

[blissful cave]

[lusty orbit]

ohhh the reload time

and the aiming

[honest rampart]

Idk if you have done it already, but maybe the VK 72.01 (K)? Or if you have done that one already maybe the T-100LT

[blissful cave]

I go craaaazy in standard B also somehow 3.1k damage and two kills is only class 3

[blissful cave]

For tank of the day or just if they’re real

VK 72 is the rear turret design concept for Löwe combined with the higher weight requirement and T-100lt I don’t know like anything about but it is marked real on my list so somebody must’ve shown me something

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/battle-tanks/images/1/10/Imagendncndjs.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/370?cb=20140903173122

[blissful cave]

The craziest part about is is I’m like half stock
I have the turret and gun upgrade but none of the mobility ones or even equipment slots

[desert obsidian]

The real GIGA CHAT

[blissful cave]

This camo goes so hard I wish I was able to put it on my tanks
I think I’ve only ever seen this camo sold with ISU-130 and never seen someone in battle with it on another tank and it’s not even a legendary camo or anything

[icy wadi]

it literally says "for the isu130" in this camo's description

[blissful cave]

Is that not just the shop offer thing telling you what the included camo is for
Like if you buy a tank with a non legendary camo it’s still locked to the tank you’re purchasing

But if it really is for 130 only then what’s the point of locking a normal winter camo pattern exclusively to one tank

[robust wasp]

6 k golda for this animal 💪🏻🥲

[tawdry crow]

its like the aussi sentinel and ghost in the mechine for konenjagd

[blissful cave]

Well Aussie makes sense that’s basically a legendary camo something only designed for sentinel and not just a basic pattern
This one and the kanonen one are simply just normal patterns it doesn’t make any sense for them to be exclusive to one tank

.
Oh also I forgot I haven’t done a TOD yet

Should I pick a tank or does someone else have one they want to pick for tank of the day today

[plucky summit]

X76 Medium

[blissful cave]

?

[plucky summit]

Teehee

[blissful cave]

I didn’t get any result of what that is

[plucky summit]

I just haven’t built it yet

[blissful cave]

[blissful cave]

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-danger-gif-21942122

[robust wasp]

[lyric copper]

@blissful cave

has the BKan been done? @blissful cave

[blissful cave]

No
I don’t even know what that is
Lmao grille förster

[meager spindle]

You DON'T know what that is?

[lyric copper]

🗿

is bro playin

[meager spindle]

That's the Bandkanon 1c

[robust wasp]

Whay this skin dont in EU server ?

[blissful cave]

OOOH ITS SWEDISH?!

[lyric copper]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15,5_cm_bandkanon_1

READ, BRO, READ

[meager spindle]

Actual goofball

[blissful cave]

Oh wait is this one one that was built on the Kran hull thing

[lyric copper]

155mm arty
autocannon
15 shells in 45s
based on 103 chassis
28km range
Bofors

[blissful cave]

There was some sort of artillery built on something that came out of the Emil project it’s displayed next to Kranvagn hull

[meager spindle]

Bofors

[lyric copper]

the Bkan is based on the 103 hull

[lyric copper]

thats the Akv 151

https://youtu.be/82jXQ56mOe0?feature=shared

[blissful cave]

Ok I knew about that Swedish artillery one but not this one

[violet timber]

I prefer Paladins with Excalibur rounds

[lyric copper]

cringe 4 rpm

[violet timber]

But guided rounds

[lyric copper]

TOD NOW

[blissful cave]

Alright then Bkan is todays TOD

This thing looks cool

[blissful cave]

Idk my knowledge of tanks is just somehow super exclusively tanks
artillery and stuff I don’t really know as much but I do like them as much as tanks so hearing about ones I haven’t seen is cool

[lyric copper]

how come youve never heard of the Bkan

[blissful cave]

I dunno

I know about all these stupid UDES concepts that were obscure blueprints that were never built but didn’t know about this artillery that was actually built and in service

The funny (UDES 19)

[lyric copper]

in terms of a Swedish TD line, the Bkan as a tier 10 would be a great alternative to the 103

Akv 151 as tier 9

[blissful cave]

Even more silly weirdos

[blissful cave]

Like I legitimately could not name one armored car other than M8 greyhound and that’s only because I did a TOD on it after it was suggested

[lyric copper]

tier 8 no clue, but the tier 7-5 would be like it is on PC

[blissful cave]

And other than the SISU because Finland may not have built tanks but we did make armored cars

[blissful cave]

Meanwhile I could tell you off the top of my head the difference between the T95 E numbers

Here’s a simple image of it btw

[valid gale]

Smash cannon 1c

[blissful cave]

I just realized why didn’t I just use XM66 for the skoda quest
It doesn’t really matter because I already have skoda and I’d just get credits but XM I can ace by doing barely anything just get like over 2K damage and at least 2 kills or something and it’ll be an ace

meanwhile standard B you saw what I did and it was only class 1

[meager spindle]

[valid gale]

Btw this is where the krans hull went to

[blissful cave]

Ain’t nobody wanna play CS-63💀

[teal quartz]

Buy obj252U or T54E2?

[blissful cave]

I like T54E2 more I sold my 252

[teal quartz]

Only premium tier 8 I have now is an is6

[halcyon lotus]

T54E2 since more gun depression and versatility + it’s more fun to play

[meager spindle]

ez ace, and it really isn't that bad

[blissful cave]

Personally me I don’t care for the CS-63 I don’t hate it but I don’t really like it either it’s just another fake with no real basis
But I see videos all the time of how CS-63 is the worst new tank in blitz of all time its funny

But it is funny when they pull up the play rate of it and show that basically nobody’s playing it (it’s been long enough that it being new isn’t the main reason)

[lyric copper]

wrong, the Kranvagn gave its hull to the discarded Akv 151 project, the precursor to the Bkan, which used the 103B chassis as a base

[valid gale]

The actual hull didn’t go to it , the development however lead to the bandkanon

[lyric copper]

ah yes the 1200 base exp ace tank

[meager spindle]

few nights ago i did iirc a 10 game session in it, i think i aced 7 out of 10 games, and the ones i didn't ace were losses 💀

[lyric copper]

it’s too easy

also I’m gaming to be the first rank 50 CS-63 player

because I can

[blissful cave]

I remember when I got my concept 1B the ace bar was so low I said I could do 2K in it and ace and someone didn’t believe me until I sent screenshots💀

[halcyon lotus]

fr i remember those days. 1.3K base xp was automatically an ace

[blissful cave]

Funny part is I didn’t get it during release or anything that was before I joined the game this was like a random time when it came for sale March last year

[valid gale]

I farmed 5 aces in a row once half a year ag o in conc

[lyric copper]

I have more aces than 1st classes in the CS

15-14 lol

[meager spindle]

lowest ace i think i've ever gotten

[blissful cave]

I remember because I bought it for myself for my birthday it was in the shop during then

[blissful cave]

Ohhh yea Strv K was an easy ace too I got in in July or something and I’d get aces like participation trophies

[blissful cave]

Finally got my T67 and daaang this thing inaccurate af💀

[rotund sonnet]

goob

[blissful cave]

How did I never think to translate what Tornvagn’s name means looks like it’s under the same idea as Kranvagn (crane vehicle)

[rotund sonnet]

its funny how its also like german naming system

[blissful cave]

Assuming that’s tower as in towing truck and not tower 🏰

Because in Finnish turret is Tykkitorni and torni is tower

(Literally:cannon tower)

[calm quarry]

I dont thing WG will ever see this but can the AMX 50B have a secound gun with only three shells but more damage per shell similar to the one on the AMX 50 120

[harsh elm]

too bad they reduced the 50 120s alpha to 380 as wel

[blissful cave]

Add the Henry Stickmin tank to wot blitz

https://tenor.com/view/henry-gif-19001375

Wait that’s basically just

Needs bigger muzzle brake
But the very tilted up shape is fitting

[blissful cave]

Gun depression tho💀
Even if it had like 10 degrees you’re not gonna be hitting much at close range

[balmy compass]

I think that’s a reference to some other game

[wary summit]

It's literally the Newgrounds logo 💀

[blissful cave]

Henry stickmin was made on newgrounds so it was added as a reference

.
Also thinking about how if UDES XX20 had a normal hull instead of this two part one we’d basically have irl Tornvagn

[rose heath]

question, if u sell the free tier 4 premium tank they give u at the start of the game, can u rebuy it later if u get more space? if so does that apply to other premiums where u can rebuy them for silver?

[halcyon lotus]

yes, it applies to other premium and collector tanks too

[rose heath]

do they only cost silver? or gold too? tyty for answer also

[halcyon lotus]

premiums (the tanks with yellow names) cost silver to restore. collectors (the tanks with blue names) on the other hand require gold to restore

[rose heath]

ahh didnt know that was the diff. never thought blue and gold names were diff types lol. then again i should have figured as this one i have was free. yeah i jsut wanna get rid of the free tier 4 they gave us at the start. the usa one. i dont really need it but need that space lol

[charred breach]

The Centurion 7/1 needs a rework on the looks

[solid gate]

Yo, have you ever done Panther/M10 as tank of the day? (the Panther Ausf. Gs that were disguised as M10s)

[blissful cave]

I have

[solid gate]

Ah okay

[violet timber]

<@&481447501690568709> y’all want 50 dollars?

[rose heath]

i dont trust that link

[icy saffron]

guys what is this?

[violet timber]

Tiger 2 legendary camo

[halcyon lotus]

dude are you blind or something? it literally says it’s the #germany_vehicles:PzVIB_Tiger_II_Custom_Shop_v2

[meager saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-charles-gif-18447623

[blissful cave]

This is the greatest plaaaaan-

[meager saddle]

I can hear his voice in my head now xd

[zealous zephyr]

What happened here

[icy saffron]

ah i see

[icy saffron]

i know but the name is too long

[icy saffron]

@charred breach

[high drift]

Uhm? Is 7 ramming a mauschen and not taking dmg? What steroids is this tank on?

Yes u have to wait a lil to see the clip I’m talking about

[valid gale]

Wut

[high drift]

idk

after that, about half the players still in the battle questioned it

[blissful cave]

I’ve seen it included with all the extras for the same price like camo premium time and boosters but if you really want the tank now then it’s not a big deal plus I don’t think they sell it with the better camo anymore anyway

[thorny smelt]

Wait for pop-up sales that sells for the same price but with included goodies.

[kindred wren]

#germany_vehicles:PzVIB_Tiger_II_Custom_short_v2
VS.
Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausführung B Tiger II (Sonderkraftfahrzeug 182)

WG is doing everyone a favour by using the abbreviations on leaving the inventory designation away

[honest rampart]

Imagine they gave the Jagdpanzer E 100 a more realistic name like: Sturmgeschütz Ausf. Standardpanzer Entwicklung 100 Fahrgestell or Sturmgeschütz Ausführung Standardpanzer Entwicklung 100. (In short: StuG Ausf. E 100)

[rotund gull]

The Real Tank Concept

[rotund sonnet]

💀 Swedish WT auf E100

[lyric copper]

not really since the Bkan lacks an AP shell

what it would have is HE/HE ammo load, one with higher pen but lower damage

terrible camo, large size, and easy to hit ammorack would be its weakness

[solid gate]

Hi.

Im sorry for violating rules.Now im sure i can discuss vehicles and their characteristics with other players without any rule violation.So.My first sentence after my isolation is: I say the honorable Developers and mods should add a hungarian tech tree to the European.

[valid gale]

At the same time it wouldn’t be bad with AP it has no armor less so than waffen

[solid gate]

i alr got 3d models,Stats,tier,name,special Camos. Anyone who is interested in this imaginary tech tree of mine, i can asure you that i am a hungarian and i know my folks history.So yeah thats it.
Please oh please add this.I would only play these hungarian tanks.(And my 5 premiums). 🙂

If i am allowed to i would like to add some information about the tanks of my nation.

firstly, The 44M Tas "Rohamlöveg" is a powerful tank with german Panther characteristics,but unique in its own way, for two reasons i found out:1. The 44M Tas tank had a lower profile than the Panther tank, making it harder for enemy forces to target and hit. This gave the 44M Tas tank a tactical advantage in combat situations.
2. The 44M Tas tank had a superior sloped armor design compared to the Panther tank, providing better protection against enemy fire. This improved defensive capability gave the 44M Tas tank an advantage in survivability on the battlefield.
And they both had a 75mm gun so panther had nearly no advantage compared to Tas.Thank you for reading this small text about my nations armoured unit!

The 44M Tas.

[safe acorn]

Tas 44M had a Bofors 80mm tho

[valid gale]

The 2 prototypes only had a 75mm that was available the 80mm gun was never finished and mated to the turret

Also the panther 75 was incomparable to other 75s besides the American 76 and 17 pdr

[indigo ivy]

Wg should add side spaced armor as a provision for the foch line since they’re gonna give it pbr

[safe acorn]

That and the 44M's 75mm was more to the Panzer IV F2 and Gs

The 80mm however is slightly longer than the 88mm L/56 so that could be a promising weapon

A proud invention made by the Hungarians
But without time it was in no clear shape for a good fight

[solid gate]

Hungarians usually manned german tanks.But there were many german tank aces with Hungarian origins.

[solid gate]

Yk the Toldi ll.I always dreamt of having it as a Collector tier lll

[safe acorn]

Play the snail's game and you get it for free

[lyric copper]

its i not l

[solid gate]

You still get the point.l=I

Anyways why there are swedish tanks i mean ik hungary isnt half as popular because of uncountable reasons but still: We deserve a place in WoT blitz!

[lyric copper]

because unlike hungary, Sweden actually made an effort to create tanks instead of using German/Soviet designs

[violet timber]

Sweden has more than a sad panther knockoff

[honest creek]

tbh blitz still hasn't released the Primo Victoria yet

[safe acorn]

Hungary does have some good stuff goin for it
But for here is more eh

[honest creek]

the blitz devs technically nerfed Sweden by not adding the strv 103b line

[safe acorn]

At most 44M Tas brought over to this game would be a Tier VI tank
Which honestly wouldnt give the attention you want it to have

[solid gate]

I,m trying to get French tanks and got the option to buy a SAu 40 or a B1, i choose for the SAu 40. But my question is if the French tank-destroyers are really worth it.

[lyric copper]

add the Bkan line instead

[onyx raven]

Nah, not really. None of the French TDs are really that good.

[solid gate]

Ah ok thx

[onyx raven]

Add the UDES meds or some Swedish LTs.

[lyric copper]

UDES MTs wont come for the same reasons as the 103B wont come

• tfw autobounce

Ikv 91 would possibly be a better pick

[onyx raven]

IMO, WG could easily implement siege mode as a sort of speed-based mechanic

Something akin to Combat Stabilization

Also, the meds wouldn’t really need the mechanic.

[lyric copper]

still, the fact stands that their autobounce is a hilarious mechanic that totally does not at all reinforce one of the most boring metas of all time

[onyx raven]

Just give them bad armour so overmatch works constantly /s

[lyric copper]

if WG do not wish to add the 103B or UDES 15, as I suspect they do not, they could add the Bkan 1C (which already has a great tier 9, and 5-7 to fit a sort of TD line (no tier 8 that would fit)), and the Ikv 91

[onyx raven]

And what would those be?

[lyric copper]

Bkan 1C as the tier 10, its predecessor being the Akv 151, based on the Kranvagn hull

no idea for a tier 8, but the 5-7 would be as it is on PC

[onyx raven]

You could add one of the turreted IKV concepts as a Tier 8

[lyric copper]

Ikv 91 is more of the stretch tier 10 tech tree

more likely WG impelement it as a tier 10 collector lol

[safe cedar]

Their are some precedessors that could be used.

[onyx raven]

Nah, there are plenty of tanks to fill that in

Tier VI - Strv Pilen
Tier VII - Lansen (The actual Swedish version)
Tier VIII - IKV 65 Alt 5
Tier IX - IKV-91
Tier X - UDES 14D

[silk briar]

Forest witch name bug. This happened in a training room

[safe cedar]

Ngl it would be cool to have a kranvagn or Emil II hull with bkan 1 turret just slapped on the front.
Would definitely play.

[slate surge]

how to fix this i cant claim rank on is 5 why ?

[flint glade]

and tanks PKV

[onyx raven]

You’re better off not wasting money on ranks anyways.

[onyx raven]

The Pvkv tanks wouldn’t be part of a Light tank tree.

[slate surge]

i just want to use tank that i payed for is that BIG problem ?

[lyric copper]

probably a tier 8 on the Bkan line?

[slate surge]

but i cant play ?????????/

[onyx raven]

Hit the claim button.

[slate surge]

as i said i cant claim it ?

[onyx raven]

No. Those tanks are suited for Tier IV-V.

[slate surge]

what can i do with this bug ?

[onyx raven]

No idea

[slate surge]

there is one solution league of legends

[onyx raven]

[toxic pawn]

WG hello why is 705A not looking like this?

[onyx raven]

Because it’s really the Object 718

[solid gate]

You again.Anyways if there are australian tanks which are knockoffs of GB tanks there should be hungarian tanks which arent all knockoffs.Also there are hungarian tank aces which destroyed twice as much armoured vehicles as Karl-Gustav Säll who was the best tank ace of the swedish armoured vehicles.So please stop offending my nation for being a knockoff.

[onyx raven]

There are three Australian tanks and only one could be considered Copy-paste.

[violet timber]

I apologize that your nation didn’t create any exciting vehicles

[solid gate]

I forgot to make it a respond message i didnt mean you Hippo.You re awesome

[teal quartz]

Is the T54E2 or obj252U worth buying?

[violet timber]

Both are good but incredibly boring

[solid gate]

Yeah well if we were more skilled than the swedish than tanks doesnt matter, really.And because we were more skilled even compared russian tank aces.So please either give answers worth of a tank expert or simply dont give any answer.

And no reason to excuse you have no idea what hungary has been trough.It seems for most people that we were simply the unknown country next to austria and that we went to the germans because we wanted to but no we didnt want to.And yeah its really deep what happened.

[violet timber]

Tank aces ≠ actual tanks buddy

[solid gate]

I admit that nobody matches the germans in Armoured combat.

[teal quartz]

Just looking for something better for rating battles and tournaments. I only have an is6 as a premium tank now and it’s survival sometimes is meh lol

[solid gate]

Mate, Obj252U has everything the Is3 lacks.It has armour that withstands even some tier 10 heavys hits.Its armour isnt only strong but also sloped.Its alpha gun has incredible damage statistics and it has awesome mobility for a heavy with such pros.Its gun is pretty accurate for being a russian heavy.Take it mate before its gone.

[violet timber]

252U is a noob’s tank. The armor is made entirely for brainless yoloing, the gun is absolutely terrible. Any half decent player would find a tank that works better in any scenario aside from yoloing

[blissful cave]

They’re not knockoffs tho? The sentinel was made purely original by Australia and the Centurion RAAC is their Australian service modifications as one stand alone premium

[solid gate]

T54E2 is a incredible choice.It has the shark camo which looks totally cool(Who takes sheriff instead shark bruh.) Also it features many great stats.New fishes get scared when they see it on the opponents front and it has great damage compared to newbie safe armour.

[solid gate]

Nobody reads the rest of the text but ofc the australian part

[blissful cave]

I did

[solid gate]

I think its pretty funny that noobs simply cant punish me for rammint them

[solid gate]

And you dont think its a good idea to improve european with hungary and maybe switzerland i guess. 😦

[blissful cave]

I’d want Swedish tech trees they’re my favorite country of tanks
Strv 103 and UDES 15/16 please

[solid gate]

I mean honestly we have nothing to offer but 2 mediuma, 2 heavys and 1TD but yeah thats it i guess.

[onyx raven]

Here’s the difference: Switzerland has more than enough tanks to fill a whole tech tree, while Hungary is more suited to isolated premiums.

[solid gate]

Oh yeah maybe make them premium so people actually want them.But Toldi III should be a collector pls.

[blissful cave]

Yea like BT-42 is my most wanted tank in this game but I do understand we only made one tank so that tank just as a stand alone premium is all perfectly good with me plus we already have Finland as a category in the game idk why they’re not doing anything with it (just give us our one tank and I’ll be on my way)

[solid gate]

At least you guys actually have something to flex with.Pls let me flex with somehing too.And oh yeah add scotland hell yeah.

[blissful cave]

https://tenor.com/view/scottland-forever-meme-gif-5911719983030502099

[solid gate]

Ik the british and all.But my homies would love it

[blissful cave]

Does Scotland even have tanks

[onyx raven]

Why would they have indigenously-built tanks if they’ve been a constituent of the UK for longer than tanks have existed?

[solid gate]

idk lol lemme check 🤓.

[solid gate]

Idk should australia build wood tanks before civilization reached them?

[blissful cave]

Like 2 days ago I had some dream that I saw a play tester with one but unfortunately woke up to the real world where we’re just getting another French heavy and some Japanese TD (leaked new 10.6 tanks)

[solid gate]

I dreamed about having a Forest witch tank without that ugly camo.Imagine.

[lyric copper]

they are not knockoffs?

the Cent 5/1 is a Cent 5/1 that the Royal Australian Armoured Corps ordered

the AC1/4 are indigenous designs

[solid gate]

Oh dude everyone attackin that single message jeez.

[lyric copper]

hungarian tanks have as much of a claim to being in this game as indian tanks

[solid gate]

People calling a hungarian tank which is better than the panther a "panther knockoff" but all have to respond if i write something about austrailan tanks.

[lyric copper]

because unlike the Cent 5/1 and AC 1/4, the 44M vary blatantly draws all its inspiration from the panther

[blissful cave]

Because it was just completely false?

[solid gate]

Stop being toxic.And what you re telling arent facts they are things you spend you time with to not seem totally useless for any society

[solid gate]

And is better

[lyric copper]

????

what?

also the reason why the hungarian ace was better was because the hungarian ace actually participated in WW2?

and how is it better? any stats? any metrics? oh wait the tank was never used

[solid gate]

You forgot to add something toxic i care about.

[solid gate]

Thanks for editing now we have something i care about.

[lyric copper]

youve not even made one good point at all

its all just "add this tank i am hungarian so it MUST be added"

it wouldnt be a full line, or a coherent one
WG would have to split the Polish and Italian lines out first
WG would have to somehow conjure up fantasy tanks to make coherent lines
almost no reason to add them since they arent demanded, dont have any major technical breakthroughs, etc

[solid gate]

No i dont remember saying it must be added thats not correct, nor really kind and respective to my "own opinion of the game".Anyways nobody really asked anyone to add some new tanks or at least i dont remember.Stop adding senseful tough toxic content for im pretty sure that this is a rule violation.If you cant follow my simple grammar please head to google translator.

[runic yew]

hello if i get my t55a back for credits will it tmrw change to the blue version?

[lyric copper]

youre the one needing a translator to speak to me lol

@runic yew yes

[runic yew]

well i would get it if i could sell the tanks

[blissful cave]

Probably 5K gold

[runic yew]

you know when will the update happen like Europe Time

[solid gate]

That dude didnt mean you Moto Moto.he/she meant me

[lyric copper]

still havent thought about this hm?

[runic yew]

she or he idk pinged me dont u see?

[solid gate]

Sorry im tired.

[lyric copper]

actual app/play store update will be around 11AM CEST

[runic yew]

daium i wont get the t55a

[runic yew]

or if i buy the strv containers i could

alr spend 40 dollars

[solid gate]

I think its impressive that im learning and nearly getting 5 additional languages to my vocabulary which are useful for negotiating with people like @lyric copper of such things.Anyways i hope some new tanks will get added.They dont have to be strange,Flat profile hungarian nobody knows about,nor scottish.But please add some new interesting nations.Im getting bored of Carro45t glitch.

[solid gate]

I just spent around 70$.Nothing better to do but learning.Which can get boring because it needs brain usage.

[lyric copper]

youre just mad that your nation that never really made tanks and instead bought them or was given them wont be added

[runic yew]

lol i will buy the strv containers

[lyric copper]

literal reasons why it would never work:

[solid gate]

I bought the Centurion and Löwe.And i still got a huge fortune.😎 ask me for gifts and ill give a dumb answer.

[runic yew]

give me gifts

[solid gate]

Like?

[runic yew]

everything 💀

[solid gate]

Im saving around 50k for my rl friends. So 3.5k for you.You want me to give you the "Slowly but safely overcoming" Matilda VI lol

[runic yew]

lol

daium i will have to play for the credits aww man

[solid gate]

I always win 1k from black boxes.

I just dont get it.I get ChiNuKai from a crate with Gargoyle in it but i get 1k in any black box bruh

[solid gate]

Strongest tank in the game.

What kind of tiger is that?

[violet timber]

It’s the tiger 2 battle pass camo

[solid gate]

name is what caught my eye

is it some bug or

[violet timber]

Yes

[blissful cave]

Everyone’s talking about tiger II pass camo and forest witch name bug but the funny thing is my cousin had this bug but for like half the tanks in the game for like over half a year and it’s still like that
It’s funny because it mostly applies to EU tanks and he’s doing czech heavy line

So I’m like “hey check out my new Strv 81” and he’s like “you mean #european-vehicle-strv-81-17939-medium-tank”

[solid gate]

our clan leader has tank with same bug too, except it's France tier IX

[violet timber]

That’s been like that

[blissful cave]

I don’t think they ever released it

[solid gate]

Idk how he got it then

[violet timber]

He doesn’t have it

[rich blade]

could have been test tank, for clantester or supertest, he probably dosnt have the tank anymore

[blissful cave]

It was in one of the test server sessions

[solid gate]

thanks for information then

[violet timber]

It’s a bug with ranks. Since it’s a premium it automatically gets a rank for everyone, making it appear on everyone’s account. This happens for all tanks that get rank 1 by default

[rich blade]

but it was like a year ago, people predicted it could be for the 3rd clanevent, but ofc we dont know for sure

[rich blade]

wtf is bro flapperghasting

[violet timber]

I’m literally just explaining what’s going on

[rich blade]

Then why dont I have it ? Do u have it ?

[violet timber]

You clearly didn’t read what i said

[solid gate]

Tank looks cool tho

[rich blade]

" making it appear on everyone’s account. "

[violet timber]

See how it appears on this account? Thats because of the bug I explained.

I never said “It will magically appear in your garage for you to play!”

[rich blade]

again: do u have it ? Why dont I have it ?

[violet timber]

My brother in Christ it’s not that hard to understand. See how in the screenshot the tank appears even though the player doesn’t own it? Thats because of the bug I just explained.

[rich blade]

U know what also could be a reason ? Which makes far more sense ? That he is/was a clantester/supertester back in the day when this tank got tested, and after the test the tank got removed, like every other test tank

[violet timber]

And that’s why there’s 0 battles…

[rich blade]

Because he didnt played the tank ?

[violet timber]

Real smart buddy, it’s not a bug that affects everyone, it’s a super tester that didn’t play! It’s literally just a bug my dude, try using your brain for once.

[rich blade]

Again, If its a bug that affects everyone, then why dosnt it appear on my account ? Or on your account ?

[violet timber]

It literally does.

[rich blade]

show

[solid gate]

When were these tanks available?

[rich blade]

because HUH I wonder where it is for me ?

[rich blade]

G1 R was given away for free in a subscription but Idk when, Lorr Fearless was the ranked reward before T49

[solid gate]

Dam, lorr looks cool tho. For some reason I haven't seen him in battle yet. Otherwise I've seen T49 fearless couple times, is6 fearless as well

But we can all agree this tank should be brought back 😄

[rich blade]

you can currently earn it, and probably for some months more

[valid gale]

Nobody does

[violet timber]

It shows when other people look at your account

[rich blade]

then look up my acc: MieseRentner and show

[violet timber]

I’m not on eu lmao

Not my fault you don’t understand a well known bug even after it’s explained to you 🤷‍♂️

[rich blade]

my friends acc. where is it `?

[valid gale]

It doesn’t show up for everyone but the bug is well known the BC variant for some reason has been forgotten about

T49A however is not obtainable

[violet timber]

^^^

[rich blade]

kk

[primal silo]

guys what is nation with best medium tanks

[near solstice]

I have a question

Look at the Tiger 2 name its okay?

[violet timber]

Seems right to me

[near solstice]

?

[desert obsidian]

Premium account 129 days ? 🙏😭🤯🤯🤯❔🤯

[solid gate]

Yep, almost out

[blissful cave]

T49A at a cheap price of 1 gold? Splendid

( I know you can’t buy it)

[kindred wren]

That would be true if rank one is already ‚activated‘. It is not though, you need to unlock it for it to show in battle

If your explanation actually were true you‘d see all premium and collector tanks on everyone‘s accounts

[violet timber]

It’s not in battle, it’s in the player’s profile

[violet timber]

There are some players where this happens

[kindred wren]

Same for the profile

If the tank doesn‘t have the rank activated the rank won‘t show in the profile

[violet timber]

Aeson has already confirmed that it’s a bug with ranks

[kindred wren]

It may be a bug related to ranks, but it‘s not because all premium can activate the rank immediately. That‘s at most a prerequisite for the bug to happen

Also I am unsure how far I‘d trust aeson with determining the source of the bug, since he gathers his info from datamining

If you can show me where he made a compelling argument, I am open to change my mind

[blissful cave]

Oh yea I forgot we need a tank of the day but i maybe want to do one I already know a decent amount about and wouldn’t need to research as much as one I’ve never heard of because I’m gonna be at work until night

Should I just pick one today

[kindred wren]

Lol, I was about to throw some outlandish design into the ring

[blissful cave]

Ooh lemme hear it I could always do it tomorrow

[kindred wren]

Although, maybe for simplicity, you could make a bridge laying tank. Since it‘s a variant of another tank, the fact research would be limited to technical data and mentioning the base tank

[kindred wren]

Was still thinking on which one would be cool. I mean obviously the Sturmtiger would be a cool choice but it‘s pretty well known already

[blissful cave]

I did one on sturmtiger

Originally I was thinking of doing panzer III today but it would be a longer post since it’s so iconic and has a good amount to talk about

[kindred wren]

Could have figured

[kindred wren]

Yeah, it‘s a neat tank

[blissful cave]

Usually on days like this I pull out some random obscure scrimblo bimblo like something you’d probably see as a low tier collector like Ke Ni or something

Not too much to talk about but not complicated or famous enough to require a lot of looking into for information

[kindred wren]

Hm. I mean with things like the F1 Renault it can get pretty large quickly

Did you do the LT vz. 35 already?

[blissful cave]

Yes
Ill just look around for something

It doesn’t have to be what would be a “low tier” just any tank that doesn’t require too much to talk about like usually I’d pull out a Yoh

The historic description is interchangeable the context is the same just one part is unique that being describing the point of this design specifically like for IV being an oscillating turret in a round shield part that doesn’t move with it

[blissful cave]

Should I just do another Yoh?
I haven’t done em all yet I’ve done 3,4 5/6 I don’t remember which they look similar and 7

There’s still the two normal looking ones Yoh I and II and then whichever of the 5/6 I didn’t do yet

[kindred wren]

Since you likely already did most other no-brainers I don‘t have a better idea

[blissful cave]

Surprisingly there’s notable few I haven’t done yet
Churchill-for a long time didn’t know how I’d do this one the standard variants are all too different to just combine them all but not different enough to all get their own
Like Churchill I and VII are two completely different things but then stuff like Churchill IV and VI are basically the exact same

So do I just split em “old and new” where’s the line drawn then

I’ll probably just do one on Churchill as a whole but it’d be a long post then (also this is standard variants only 1-4 6-7 the howitzer ones are unique enough for their own)

And other iconic ones I haven’t gotten to yet like Matilda Panzer III E8 Sherman stuarts Leopard 1 some MBT’s either I just didn’t get to em or I’m saving them for something
Like E8 I’m thinking of saving for my birthday special

Either E8 Sherman my first favorite tank or ISU-152 and T30 my highest ranked favorites that I haven’t done yet

[kindred wren]

I would split between the different turrets

Mainly because it‘s a significant visual change

[valid gale]

I got AW yesterday

And it’s gonna be an interesting experience starting all over again on a foreign game on a platform I’ve seldom played

[bold quarry]

Best Regards .
In a conversation with my comrades from the clan and the rest of the players from other clans, mostly from the Balkans.
We came up with the idea to send you a request for the introduction of new tanks in the game.
That would bring me a lot of happiness and satisfaction.
It is a tank of the Serbian nation.
M84
The M84 tank is based on the license of the Soviet tank T-72M, it has several modifications, which in our opinion has grounds to be introduced into the game because it is a Serbian tank! , can be classified as a branch of the European nation under the flag of Serbia.
It is not a copied tank, but only a production license was taken, at the start a lot of things differ from the Soviet tank from the way it was made, modules, materials, maneuverability, etc...
The M 84 tank has further improvements
M 84
He had experience in battles both in the Balkans and in Africa, he proved to be extremely capable of overcoming the world's tanks at the time and proving that he is the best!
I think he deserved to be on the list of European nations in the game.
I am attaching a text from Wikipedia, which will make it easier for you to find information about this tank.
You can search on Google for more information about Serbian tanks.
The Serbian nation has many good destroyers such as:
Gvozdika 2S1

https://armyrecognition.com/images/stories/east_europe/serbia/exhibition/partner_2017/pictures/M-84AS1_main_battle_tank_upgrade_of_M-84_Yugoimport_Serbia_Serbian_defense_industry_Partner_2017_640_001.jpg

https://armyrecognition.com/images/stories/east_europe/serbia/exhibition/partner_2017/pictures/M-84AS1_main_battle_tank_upgrade_of_M-84_Yugoimport_Serbia_Serbian_defense_industry_Partner_2017_640_002.jpg

https://armyrecognition.com/images/stories/east_europe/serbia/exhibition/partner_2017/pictures/M-84AS1_main_battle_tank_upgrade_of_M-84_Yugoimport_Serbia_Serbian_defense_industry_Partner_2017_640_003.jpg

https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-84#/media/Датотека:M-84_VS.jpg

[blissful cave]

T-72 isn’t in the game because I think it’s past the timeframe so I doubt a tank after it would be added

[valid gale]

2s1 also sounds bad tbh lol

[bold quarry]

It's not the Soviet T 72, but the Serbian M84!
It differs in many ways, only the license is taken.
Different performance, different construction of the tank in the form of materials.
much better firepower etc.
This tank deserved to be in the game.
Proven on multiple real battlefields on multiple continents.
It is better than Leopard 1, which is level X in the game.

[blissful cave]

You missed the point
If T-72 isn’t added for being too modern for blitz then a tank made after it is too

[valid gale]

Because it’s 20-30 years older lol

[bold quarry]

Most importantly, the M 84 belongs to the tanks of the 20th century, as this game sets the stage.

[violet timber]

Sir, you do realize that arguably the best tank irl that is in the game is the Kpz 70, and even that had to be nerfed to even fit into the game

[bold quarry]

OK.
But the m 84 is categorized as the best tank of that time side by side with the LEOPARD 1, so why was the Leopard 1 put into the game?

[violet timber]

Because it’s an earlier variant…

[valid gale]

Because leopard 1 debuted in 1965 where as M84 was not finished til 1989-92?

[blissful cave]

Because leopard 1 came like 20 years before it

[valid gale]

Also with that definition all tanks fit under it including modern ones

[violet timber]

Also, calling it the best tank of its time is a bit much considering it was a slightly updated T-72A in the late 1980s

[bold quarry]

I understand what you are writing.
But it is a great injustice to all other tanks that are in the 20th century!
It is based on the T 72, but it has nothing to do with that tank because the construction is completely different!
The license was only needed for the start of production.
The Serbian M-84 is better than the American M1A1 Abrams as well as the Leopard 1.
They won't put real tanks in the game, but that's why they put in completely fake tanks, I don't see the point in that....

[blissful cave]

It’s not that hard to understand
T-72 came before it but is still considered too modern for blitz highest we got in that lineage of tanks is T-62
So this tank that is a more modernized version of that tank cannot be added

[bold quarry]

There are upgrades to the M 84 main battle tank such as the AB , AB 1, AS 1. but for the game I listed the base version of the tank to make it realistic to put into the game. because these upgrades came in the 21st century.
The game only supports the 20th century.

[violet timber]

Saying that it’s better than the M1A1 and Leo 1 (I’m assuming you mean contemporary variants like the A1A1) is definitely showing a bias considering it’s quite literally a T-72A with a few upgrades

It got an improved fcs, better engine, and better armor, but it still lacked compared to its peers much like the original T-72

[bold quarry]

I don't mean the upgraded variants, but the Basic model of the M 84 tank without any upgrades.
Read a bit about that tank on Wikipedia etc...
I repeat, the M 84 does not have any technical or firepower like the T 72. The only thing they have is a visual similarity from the outside.

[violet timber]

It’s just a license built T-72A with the modifications I described

[bold quarry]

Only his outward appearance is similar.
The M 84 is made of a different material first of all. so you are very wrong.

[violet timber]

They’re the same materials, maybe different composite when that came around but at the very least the base model is the same as a T-72A

[bold quarry]

There was a political crisis in the country at the time, in order to start tank production, they had to have something on the table.
They got t 72.
before production, smart people sat down and agreed on how to make a custom tank.
the metal alloy is different, the cannon is different, the engine is also different, instead of 4 crew members, they have 3 that's the difference between t 72 and m 84. literally only the appearance is similar everything else is different.

[violet timber]

They both have a cast steel turret and laminate insert hull providing right around the same effective armor for both. The cannon is literally just a domestically produced 2A46, the same cannon the T-72 uses, and the T-72 also has 3 crew members because they both use an auto loading system. They are essentially the same tank when talking about the base model M84 like you are.

[valid gale]

T72 doesn’t have 4 crew members , no T tank did

[bold quarry]

OK. My mistake, sorry about the crew.

This leads to nothing. Milslim has no point.
First.
Like this, why does the game explain that the game set is 20th century, all tanks are 20th century?
If the problem is to introduce T 72, M 84, Abrams, etc., etc., etc.
Then let the description of the game be related to the first and second world wars. Matter settled.
Long.
Why are non-existent tanks like Dracula, M Vi joh and many others put in the game?
What's the point of those tanks? why are they in the game at all when they don't exist?

[blissful cave]

M IV Yoh is real

[valid gale]

Those are Halloween tanks , yoh was a military study you refuse and don’t seem to acknowledge the century does not matter as tanks did not exist until the 20th century , their split by generations the first was of ww1 and interwar periods

It can even stretch to WW2 when the basics were rolled steel , solid AP and primitive optics

[bold quarry]

Realy?

I'm really interested in the history of those American tanks, where can I find a study on those tanks? help me.

[blissful cave]

Yes all the Yohs are a channel named armored archives has a really good video on it I’ll go grab the link real quick

[bold quarry]

I have to admit this is sad.

...

[blissful cave]

Short summary real quick so there was a thing postwar called question mark conference that explores weird tank designs just to see some unique ideas it’s where pretty much all the weird premiums you see in the game are from like TS-5 AE phase 1 TL-7 XM66F Astron and stuff

[blissful cave]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uNPA9Ohrpqk&pp=ygUJWW9oIHRhbmsg

Here’s the Yoh video my favorite of them is Yoh IV

[blissful cave]

I absolutely love question mark conference id love to see more of em added PC just got the Chrysler 2 track
(Chrysler made a tank concept that’s like AE Phase 1 with 4 tracks but also had a version that was the same design but with the normal 2)

TS-60 is basically TL-6 not sure why they changed the name
And funky fact AE Phase 2 is a thing

.
Someone:says a tank in the game is fake
Me who knows it’s actually real:

The amount of fakes in the game is WAAAY smaller than I ever imagined and the huge bulk of them are just the past few tech trees

[bold quarry]

Oh man….
Are you realistic?
You sent me a video talking about how the tank was supposed to look.
THIS TANK NEVER LIVED.

[blissful cave]

It was a real concept that existed it was just never built in a metal prototype

Many tanks in the game were real concept blueprint plans but never actually got to the built stage pretty much every question mark conference tank didn’t get this far other than T95 medium tank and I think M60A2 was part of this too

[bold quarry]

Terrible.
This is the scandal of the game.
Some tanks that are just a drawing, and there some Draculas and other miracles and unrealistic tanks such as defenders on hybrid drives and some events such as Halloween, play the game, while real and realistic tanks sit on the bench.
The horror.

This is really sad.
Thank you for your time.
I am going to sleep.
Sorry if I bothered you with this correspondence.
It's not your fault.
I wish you all the best, good night.

[blissful cave]

I think it’s super cool that tanks that never made it past blueprints and never got to be built are able to be brought to life in the game

[bold quarry]

[blissful cave]

If you want I could put together a list for you of which tanks were and weren’t built
And for pure fakes where there weren’t even real plans there’s only like 3

Or just ask about any and I’ll probably know about it

[bold quarry]

No need really.
Everything said.
The game has really become unreal.
Running for money ruins everything.

[blissful cave]

They’re still a very important part of tank history though

Also here it is btw
Green means a working prototype was made
Yellow is real but never got to be built
Red is either fake or game variant

Also important note T95E6 was not built technically but T95E4 which is basically the same thing but with a 105mm instead of 120 was built tho

And M6A2E1 the EXP you see in tier 8 was the original plan but the one actually built just uses the regular M6 hull without the superthick armor plate (the one you see in tier 7)

And then Sheridan missile and High score are real ideas just hidden behind an unrealistic skin Sherman did have a 105mm variant and Sheridan did shoot missiles

And for T57 and T77 the turrets were actually built and would be fitted to M103 and M48 respectively but if they were actually assembled together I don’t know but it is confirmed turrets of it were built

If there is anything you wish to know just ask and I will (probably) know about it

[tepid lily]

very comprehensive list! Cheers!

[bold quarry]

Thank you for taking the time to do something so picturesque and simple.
Do you happen to have a similar list for other nations respectively?

[blissful cave]

I with the help of others here made an entire list of every tank in the game sorted between real or fake
BUT built vs concept would be a whole other thing and would need to remake the whole thing

[tepid lily]

I got censored by the bot, what I was trying to say was that if you want a more immersive and realistic tanking experience I would recommend wt/pc/mobile as that game is a tad bit more realistic

[bold quarry]

Can you send me such pictures?

[valid gale]

Ittl never be

[blissful cave]

Here it is in its current state and it’s always changing tanks I previously assumed fake sometimes turn out to be real
Green is real yellow is in between can’t be marked as truly real or passed off as fake and red is blatant fake

[tepid lily]

To be fair a lot of the more recent tanks are fake and more so alternate history "what-ifs"

[blissful cave]

But still I just wanted to sort out which actually did exist in history and which were made for the game

[tepid lily]

A good example of this are the polish mediums, the polish heavies, the czech heavies and the japanese heavies

[blissful cave]

Like I thought carro 45t was a flat out fake but a while after I “finalized” the list someone showed me this it’s a British concept related to the challenger but carro 45t looks almost exactly like that but it being Italian is fake so it got yellow mark

[tepid lily]

I like the list but this massive list you sent but I'm surprised you marked some real tanks such as the angry connor as yellow

[tepid lily]

also oof 💀

[blissful cave]

Those I gave yellow mark because appearance wise they’re just weird skins but the tank itself is real

[tepid lily]

ah makes sense...

[tepid lily]

never knew that... Interesting fact tho

[blissful cave]

Because I made a separate mark for skin variants of real tanks but the archer,Sherman 105 and Achilles aren’t in the game only skin variants so I just gave em yellow

Marking “high score” real when I’m supposed to be strict with the markings didn’t feel right

[bold quarry]

Then why can't the M 84 Serbian tank be included in the game, let them correct its technical parameters to fit in with the other tanks.
isn't that possible?
Like other tanks Abrams, T 72 etc.

[tepid lily]

Do you have a favourite fake tank in this game? Fake as in non-skinned but alternate history "what-ifs".

[blissful cave]

Oh my god how many times do I have to say it
If T-72 is considered too modern for blitz then a tank that is essentially that but was made after it and more modernized is even more too advanced for blitz

I don’t think I can explain it ANY more simply

[valid gale]

To put it into a simple term he doesn’t understand : M84 is a gen 3 the modern ones ingame are gen 2

[safe cedar]

Did I send you that image of the Centurion turret on a strv 103?

[bold quarry]

Okay, modern, no problem.
Let them reduce the capabilities of the tank and make it similar to the others.

[blissful cave]

No? There’s turreted Strv 103🤣

[valid gale]

They did that to kpz and it sucks to play

[tepid lily]

Wargaming isn't interested in putting tanks with composite armor into the game. You do realize that all the tanks in WoT are made out of steel and don't have composite layers?

[valid gale]

Still kinda wrong , m84 is a gen 3 meaning it has thermals , darts whatever simply put it doesn’t fit ingame where ww2 and Cold War era tanks duke it out

[safe cedar]

Yes, I've been spending the last 15 minutes scrolling through 4200 images to find it.

[bold quarry]

The M 84 has no such armor.
Upgraded versions have such armor.

[tepid lily]

How am I wrong? I was talking about composite armor not the various fire control systems that various cold war tanks have.

[valid gale]

Because simplified wg doesn’t want to be complicated with modern mbts so comp and darts are a no go

[tepid lily]

Hello? Kampfpanzer 70??? It literally has darts, computerized FCS, lazer rangefinder and duplicate commander/gunner controls