#vehicles-discussion
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yes very good tank
in my opinion it is the best tank in the whole game
for tier X
I get that.
leo is the best for its insane speed and dpm
snikers is fast but his armor is plastic
Very much so plastic lol. My Sheri finds that a very delicious fact
Yeah no
sheri is a good tank, its bc of his insane dpm for a light tank
Sheri has the lowest dpm of any light…
alright how come no?
It very fun to use lol but very underpowered now
It’s very good at holding, but falls apart in brawls which are kind of the meta right now
Ya I would literally die if I met a Leo or a AMX 30 B
well if your really good with vk 90 then you can prob make it
but the meta is type 71
I could be decent I think
has insane armor and good dpm
do you have a vk 90.01 (p)?
No I’m f2p mainly bc I’m poor I wish I had it tho
it will come out soon
every tank tier X and only for 20k of gold and you only can sell it for 7,500
Wow 20,000k.
1.4k gold a month from ads..
Hmm attainable by 2025!? I’m a do ads now
bc every tier X tank sells for 20k
Gotcha so I’ll have my pick
I started my main acc 5ish years ago so mbe 2017 or 2016.
Been playing since 2012 tho on random accs
I've got Emil 1951 and dracula in awesome draw
Then there's the gold from gold boosters or gold certificates from ad crates, give or take 1-2k a month added to that 1.4k from gold ads
Is tornvagn better than lowe in tier 8? Should i keep saving up and waiting for lowe or should i buy the tornvagn now? Which one of them has the best credit rates?
Soo uhh
My younger brother has to buy something with his 5000 gold and he decided to buy "O-47", so I have a question, is O-47 worth it? With 5000+ gold?
He likes some damage and medium thingy so is it worth it too?
Lowe is better for credit making, but Tornvagn is better. It's boring to play, though
Alright thanks, the tornvagn is too expensive for me rn anyway
Ill just wait for discounted lowe to come out (hopefully)
yes
what is the strategy for playing mediums? i play in tier 7 with leo
Where is my armor? how should i angle? should i follow light/mediums or support the heavies? Do i use cali or gun rammer?
rammer and play it secondline support (not camping in the back)
so i follow heavies and shoot behind them?
follow mediums as ur a medium and support them by bleeding enemies which over extend, as in dont let the enemy push over or get shots off ur mediums without being punished
heavies will just melt you so dont go ht side unless you absolutely have a reason to (which isnt mid-late/end game)
alright, thank you man
there r many positions on all maps on the mts side where you can sit comfortably and bleed enemy mediums without being too far away to help if they do end up pushing or what not, just gotta learn and remember where they are
also the leos armour isnt the best so dont expect to bounce much or often
yeah, my problem rn is my team, any game i start theres only 1 or rarely 2 mediums/lights with me and they immediately rush and die and i die to the enemy mediums
if theres 1 mt on ur team (which is you) and the enemy have 2 mediums (for example a tier 7 and tier 8 mt) passively spot early on and depending if you have support from the team or not ur best option is to run to the heavies side and try find something to do that contributes to the win, or find crossfire shots on the enemy
im tired if some of this dosent make sense mb
Noted, if the enemy has more mediums, i spot them and run to heavies to help. Dont apologise, youre taking time to explain stuff to me and i appreciate it.
for the leo (tier 7 version) at least yeah since its not very well armoured
it kind of depends on what medium ur in and the enemy lineup + ur lineup and if you get support etc etc
thank you, grinding the kranvagn is such a pain, having to play these sh*tty mediums 💀
leos all right (at least last time i played it) but its not extraordinary or anything
i also assume ur a new player when it comes to meds in general
If we're talking about the whole line it might be the IS-4 honestly
or the 113, since the tier 8 is very painful and the tier 9 is fairly mediocre
yeah, i have 2 tier 8 but theyre tiger2 and is3, i havent played any meds
is it worth grinding the Kranvagn
well, ive watched a few videos, i know how to play heavies and its really powerful when using it autoloaded. Idk if its the best but its fun, i just want it
T110E5 or IS-7?
E5
Is it worth grinding the is 4
every heavy tank line in this game is great imo, but avoid the 215b line cuz it’s not an easy to play line
is basilisk a premium tank or just a regular one?
collector
what does that mean, does it have special bonus when playing it like premium?
yoh and is4 line:
@spiral meadow some collectors have good credit bonus like premium, and some don't
magnate doesnt have a good credits bonus so i dont think basilisk would
ok thanks
I wouldn't not recommend the 215b just because it's hard to play. Caernarvon and Conqueror are both some of the best heavy tanks in their tier, and honestly aren't that difficult imo. I would argue that they are less difficult than the IS-3 and IS-8
Chat GPT saying IS-7 is the best 😂
chat gpt doesnt know anything lol
Chat gpt is 2021 limited. They also probably pulled some information from PC
Chatgpt only repeat what it is given on the internet. On that note, it is not accurate for the time you are in.
Not even it will manufacture completely made up stuff to whatever topic
scam lol
Does it? Cause i was thought that it was fed internet and works on that.
Oh wait, sometimes internet provides wrong information 🤦♂️🤷♂️
Real
Yes especially on any legal topics a guy researched it and he found it even created entirely fake cases
Hmmm.
The only good tier 7 tank is probably Dracula, Dracula has a good dpm and good speed
ye ik, im joking
T29, Tiger 1 etc:
yoh line is rlly good, but yea i forgot the is4 line is powercrept af 💀
yoh line stock is incredibly bad
Oh, so it’s the same as literally any line stock, gotcha
well there's tanks that are bad when stock, and tanks that are really bad when stock
Which tier X td should I go for obj 263 or 268
Because I heard that obj 263 has good frontal armor
263 and its branch itself is for more experienced players. Yes, 263 has pretty good armor, but you should rely more on DPM
I forgot which one was which, but should I go for 268 then?
Also, what equipment should I put on tiger 1?
Depends on your playstyle and what do you prefer more. 268 is a good tank destroyer with high damage and excellent penetration, 263 is a tank with one of the best DPM in the game. I would recommend to go 268 first.
268
Well, I like high damage but I really don’t like high reload time, so obj 263 it is
263 is still very mediocre
I might just end up getting both of them
Todays tank of the day is panzer I
Grind 268 first, it's easier, and there are cool tanks like the Su152
Yea but that comes with high reload
But it’s much better
Okay
High reload time ≠ bad, sometimes it's easier to fire once and reload than to fire many times
I just got the tiger 1 2 days ago, and I don’t know what equipment to put on it
But it’s interesting to see that the su100s final gun upgrade comes with APCR tho
good to know! thank you!
What is, at this moment the best tank to farm credits?
Lowe
After so many years, it is still the best one
its good but its slow
its fast enough to be good
what do u mean?
Doesn’t the Lycan look like Guts from Berserk?
For a Superheavy that weighs nearly a hundred tons, it still has some decent mobility
alright bro
I have a question
I don't play heavy tanks, but doesn't the amx 50b having only 80mm of armor kinda weak for a 10?
At least what I can see on the stat card
It makes up for it with mobility and clip potential
It is a heavy, it just should be played as one
I've always held the belief that tanks should be sorted based on weight and size, rather than armor
Its definitely a heavy, I think you fail to comprehend the sheer size of the vehicle.
Before 10.3, the 50b could bounce a frontal shot every now and then but now, you’ll have to be more careful before peeking and unloading mag
k guys i will get a random tank only tier 10 wish me good luck
Only a class 2

Even though I didn’t get the final shot on any tanks that’s still 4.7k damage plus the gold destruction assistance

Were you bottom or top tier?
I was tier 9 in a 10 game
Hmm that is high dmg for only a class 2 then, M is probably set around 1340 xp for t30
I mean hey I’ll gladly take this tho only like 2 games later
Probably didn’t spot your own damage
As in I didn’t spot any tanks first?
Not necessarily. If someone else spotted a tank before you did, they get half the xp, if someone else tracks a tank that you’d shoot, they get half the xp
So basically that game was just all damage nothing else
I don’t know that for sure, but that’s usually the cause of high damage but kind of low xp games
yep
The idea is to spot and track as many tanks as possible. Pick up kills when you can, and cap bases in supremacy
really??? i didnt know that
I mean, even after the update
its like better then maus
Oh, wrong screenshot
99.9% of people don't know this tank
thats an amx 30 b, assuming a b2
posts the most dissed on tank prior to 10.3
99.99% of people know everything about this exact tank
Why doesn’t my m60 look like that
That's the M60A3, we got the basic version with the Israeli umbrella copula
It's Cupola lol. Copula reminds me of copulation
Anybody got recommendations for T10 heavies or td‘s to grind. I already have the type, vz, vk, e5, t57 and mino.
A3 has a different turret for starters
E4 is a fun line right now, e100 is pretty good right from tier 6, t-62a /140 is an easy med line right through, grille line is great fun up until the grille lol
might be time for a medium, would recommend T62A and 140 line since its 2 tier X mediums in one grind, and they are both pretty cool and feature diffrent playstyles
I have 4 already, stb1, TVP, 30b (if you count collectors), and about to get the creds for the leo. I was looking mainly for heavies and td‘s but I appreciate the recommendation and I’ll look into it.
aye got it, I would probably go for Fv215b for a heavy or E4, E3 or WZ GFT TD wise
E4 is still very strong and armor of the WZ GFT is just not funny anymore
Alright thanks, I’ll look into them and see what would work best for my playing style alongside a couple other tanks I’ve been recommended. Appreciate it 
I’m about to unlock wz, did it get ripd in 10.3?
on flat ground the armor is like 340 mm, when using gundepresion its goes up to 380
tank got rly unfair, yet most people didnt notice
I enjoyed the gun on 111gft was hoping it was going to continue to be fun,
In my opinion the tier X is super fun
@blissful cave where tank of the day
I accidentally bought t 34 85 instead of is😭😭😭
T34 85 is a tier 6 how did you failed that bad?
Idk I wasn’t paying attention
It’s a good tank
My winrate is 49% so I basically lose almost every battle I’m in
Everyone was a noob at some point
Rip my spelling
I started 3 years ago and I’m still at tier 7
How many battles?
I just got vk7201 and Its really good
Yep it is
Kran, Jageroo, Maus, E3, E4
People are mad they can't penetrate an assualt tds upperplate.
since the whole tank is the upperplate I personally find it quite bad design wise, since the tank is not very slow either
Kran, Jageroo, Maus, E3, E4
Thanks for the advice. I’m grinding the jageroo now!
Which grinding should I prioritize between T-62A and STB-1, anyone?
62A
Im atm a huge fan of T62A but STB is pretty cool aswell
Yesterday I tried playing some of my tier 6’s and I’m like yeah…no
There’s like 3 Halloween tanks on each team
Yesterdays was panzer I
But where to find them? They’re temporary posts on my IG story same name as here (Galarian quest) but the thing is my page started as Pokémon content so my posts have to stay that but since I like tanks more I still wanted to do something with em so I do those on stories so they’re temporary but I will make a highlight folder where they’re all viewable at any time
the next researchebal tank might be a chinese tank bz 75 tier 10 tank
Wondering what I should do as the Halloween special for T.O.D (real tanks only so stuff like dracula forest witch lycan would make sense but they’re not real)
Might? You do realize it’s been confirmed by WG right?
where?
I do remember there was something that was gonna be bigger than the ratte named the monster that sounds fitting but I have to see if it’s actually real first
Heheh monster
it deosnt even say what it is
Yeah but everyone sees the video and what tank it is and say it is the BZ from wot pc
@blissful cave yo can we get the uhhh
the uhh M56
M56?
Hehehe this funky little thing alright let’s do it
are you sure that's a tank
have to be honest that motorized cannon looks super cool
Things that are close enough to tanks I allow for tank of the day like artillery and armored cars and stuff
motorized vehicle with cannon
Yes basically if it’s kinda like a tank I’ll allow it
can we get this tank in blitz
tier V prem TD like the Hellcat
I remember I made this a while ago lol
lol
Tanks are a doctrinal thing 😤
Roomba with a gun duct taped to it is my favorite tank
"president's armoured limo"
image of a G-Wagen
I dunno I just googled image of president limo png and just took one I dunno anything about cars
have you never seen a limo
I've seen limoges many times.
one could say the TOG II is the limo of tanks
I think the scorpion is really cool I’ve never heard of it before this too
tier 7 premium when WG
I really like a lot of artillery vehicles so it’s like I’m split between wanting the vehicles themselves but not liking the way they work in pc and glad they’re not in blitz
A lot say artillery completely ruins wot
They’re just BEEG gun on tank platform
Oh the Karl-Gerät is easily my favorite “kinda tank but not really” it’s like this giant mortar on a really long track platform thing
This big ol guy
Creatura
I mean we have tanks like the grille which are literally just a gun on a tank platform so if they’re like that where they just can only shoot forward (not arched like artillery) and used as TD’s that’d be cool to have some of these in game
Pov next Tier 8 derp gun
sturm
I remember one time i managed to hit and pen the escape hatch (only penetrable spot) on panzer II J in the BT-7 artillery from like halfway across dead rail
But yea otherwise the tank is borderline unplayable
Is the Basilisk a good tank (with its top modules installed) ?
Is this good modules for the AMX defender?
"Improved ventilation" would be a better choise in my opinion.
AMX defender has really good penetration for a light tank, so I don’t see the point in using "calibrated shells".
I just use calibrated shells because I saw a guide that said to use it for most auto loaders
Ventilation should be a better item and reduce the clip by more than just like 0.4 seconds or something maybe removing the extremely tiny boost to everything to balance it
its what happens when its a 5% to crew mastery and not an actual buff
Do you also know how to play light tanks properly because the AMX defender is my first light tank on this account
Like rammer for manual loading tanks is a much better boost it’ll take like 0.5 seconds off for something that is like a 6 second reload but ventilation won’t even take half a second off a 22 second clip
Vents is weirdly balanced and done.
Vents is good if you aren't concerned with penetration
I use vents on most of my autoloaders because the extra view range is awesome and it's a slight buff to my vehicle across the board
Honestly they should double the dispersion & viewrange buff it gives.
And?
Well I know I cant aim, thats why I love arty
Cali > vents for most autoloaders
Not really the only one I’m good with is Sheridan because the smack a big shot and then run playstyle is really fun to play and I got how that works down
But most light tanks that are single shot I just cannot play em I’m so bad in em
But I have been very good with the Astron even though I just got it which is a very fast lightly armored medium so maybe I’m good with that playstyle with autoloader clips too because they’re kinda like how I play Sheridan (except I just dump the clip and run during the long set reload)
go around slinging HE in the sheridan
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if you know, you know||
Astron isn't really a dump and run autoloader though, due to the long intra clip
it’s not the only way to play it I also stay in one place and just peek,snap shots then wait depends on the situation
But Astron is pretty fun and pretty nice to have a light/medium tank that I’m playing often rn since I use heavies most
Any of these worth restoring since the tier X changes?
Super conq is decent
T22, skonk, 5A, e6, 30b
T95E6 can be used as a nice medium tank instead of heavy. AMX 30 B is a 2% scarce Leopard. AMX M4 is not very bad but it's extremely hard to use well.
AMX is kinda bad/lame now tbh
Dang if only you could give tank certificates to a friend I got enough for another chimera again but it’ll just give me credits which I don’t really need when I’d much rather give a friend a good tank
Anyone know what's worth more of the grind between
Progetto
E4
E3
E100
Vk 72
Stb 1
I would like to know as I have plenty of free time atm as I have finished all my school stuff
Note: highest tier in all of these tank lines is 8 in the progetto line
stb
alr ty
STB-1
VK72
E3
E100
E4
P.65
Stb, e4, vk, e3, progetto, and e100. In that order
Black people!??
Alr ty
no im staring you down for the E4 > VK 72
average frencadian when black person (they get very nervous)
I'm not french Canadian
i know. you don't need to prove yourself as real, just taking the piss
E4 is better tho.
and 60tp is better than both
Good thing I got 60tp off release
clearly the foch 155 128 is better
That's actually in tank company 💀
Foch 127
i didn't even know lmaoooo i was just poking fun at the doubleshots alpha
it does more than in blitz
😎
funny how that thing does 20 less damage than our foch 155 yet has 4 shells and better accuracy 💀
Vk72 > E4
Derien.
How much gold is the AMX defender worth?
Which grinding should I prioritize between T-62A and STB-1, anyone? and maybe explain a little about why you chose one so I can decide
Calibrated shells or shell reload boost better for E50M?
Hey if there's anyone here confused between buying a kv3 or IS, go for kv3
based take
STB-1
it’s literally the top MT rn
i wish dispersion factors were shown in game
Danke, wish me luck
bruh i have made 4700 but i didn't get master ace
Oh I completely forgot I still gotta do tank of the day today
Todays tank is M3 Lee
How many tank of the day have you done?
This is day 123
Yet I somehow still haven’t done panzer IV or KV-1 I’m kinda saving those for something idk when tho I just did M3 Lee today because I feel kinda sick and don’t feel like doing one that required a lot of looking into (I know enough about M3 Lee to write it mostly from memory)
I really like doing the weird obscure ones
Not bad. I would know more about Panzer IV than M3 Lee. American tanks seem Abit boring for me
The famous tanks I’d write a lot more for like panzer IV is probably gonna be a long one
Also I really like doing the weird obscure ones like concept tanks
From me playing WT, WW2 American tanks seem just very dull.
Like there’s a lot of premiums in this game I’m surprised to find are actually real concepts and not made up
Basically most of the fakes are the EU ones (except Sweden) nearly every Italian czech or polish tank in this game is fake especially premiums
Favorite concepts are the US ones because most of the weird ones came from this one meeting where the tank producing companies are encouraged to present weird unique designs
It’s where stuff like the Yoh’s,AE Phase 1,Astron Rex and (not in the game but) chick and hen are from
Is the Object 279 in WOT blitz?
No the 4 track UFO one? It isn’t
Yeah the 4 track UFO, Soviet Heavy tank that was designed to withstand Nuclear shockwave. I know WOT has it. (PC version) but it's not like the Real thing
Most of the British ones are too like Caliban GSOR Charlemagne and cobra
Every Swedish tank in the game is real Tornvagn Lansen Emil’s and Strv K are all real concepts too the Swedish ones are my favorite group of tanks
It was a real thing
It wasn’t called the 279e, it was called obj 726
That's the Version WOT has. But they call it the object 279e
Yes
The actual Object 279 looks like this.
I am aware
It’s weirder it was named properly in development then they just changed it for some reason
I guess if you squint and look sideways it could be considered an early 279, but they really only share the quad track design
Do you think the IS-8 should be renamed to the T-10?
I’d say no so it keeps the consistency with all the other IS’s
But it is still funny that all the IS’s are all over the place
1 and 2 are tier 7
3 5 and 6 are tier 8
8 is tier 9
7 and 4 are tier 10
5 and 6 were sort of experiments on how to make a heavy tank 8 was the most recent
I think the IS-8 should be Tier 10
It fits in with the M103 and conq at tier 9
4 being 10 is the only the that is the odd standout to me (I dunno much about it so I’m sure there’s a reason)
Yea and the IS-8 is a step down from the IS-7 that tank was too good (expensive and heavy)
It has no armor
4 being a tier 10 is just strange. It was essentially just an upgraded IS-2, nothing really special about it
WG put on the theoritical 122mm when it also had the D25
🤷♂️ WG will WG
Coupled with STI logically having a tank with a fatter head be the successor doesn’t sit right
It has only about 100mm less armour than the IS-7. But the IS-7 was designed to have armour thick enough to beat a 128mm round from a Jagdtiger
The IS-4 should be replaced with the IS-8
Nah
It has a lot less, it’s thinner than even its predecessors
Ingame
Yes in-game it's true
Also why Wikipedia
That's the first place I thought of
I didn’t have this idea until late into the month but I should’ve done what I did with July for this month
July I did a US tank every other day as a special (4th of July) but I should’ve made this month German month because Oktoberfest
It has sources
Next year you can do that
Lmao if I still have tanks by then
Let alone 15 German ones
Also still not sure what to do as the Halloween tank of the day (must be real so no Dracula or lycan or something)
I had the idea to do the monster (the 1500 ton tank bigger than ratte) but I doubt the reality of it
Could do one of the blowup Sherman’s, as a “ghost” tank
April fools will be tonk for sure
Not truly a real tank but it actually exists and is made of real tank parts so it’s still better than most fakes
I was trying to find some but most took a year or two to design
Only rule of tank of the day is that it must be real so any proof that it was a real idea they had back then and not something made up purely for games like wot are allowed
(And no duplicates I guess that’s a rule too)
Do the AGS
Being at least what if scenarios of if they continued making tanks based on what they likely would’ve done are neat
but still doesn’t change that they’re not real like Chinese TD line being an ISU inspired design but based on their hulls is a cool idea
You should do the AGS.
I also found this so not sure which one
That looks like the CCVL
Is there any other name I could go off of because I see both that thin turret one and this M8 one mixed together in the searches
That is the CCVL but it was renamed to XM-8 after beating the AGS.
VT1-2
AGS stands for Armored Gun System
The M8 Buford which it’s officially called was also called AGS because it competed with the Stryker AGS
CCVL is a separate older Buford prototype
You can tell by : the MG or vision slit on the right side of the turret (or left) the cast construction hull and the different gun/ muzzle brake
No it's not because it competed with the AGS for contracts and the CCVL won and got renamed to XM-8
You can very clearly see these are not the same tank Buford visually already improves on the CCVL meaning it’s the older prototype
Further Buford has the new M35 when CCVL had the M68
Yeah that picture is from when they won the contracts. Idk why it has two names. M8 AGS and XM-8
Designations the full name or common one is M8 Buford
Dang I’m finding out about so many tanks I never knew existed because of T.O.D
"The M8 Armored Gun System (AGS), sometimes known as the Buford" Its got three names
I also kinda want to do more variety of countries but the main ones I know about I did like the Swiss Canadian New Zealand Egyptian Brazil and Australian ones I know of
I can do Romanian marseal it’s kind of like the Hetzer
But other than those I don’t really know much about ones that are more obscure tank designs from other countries
Is this worth?
Not really
Boxes are over 1000 each so basically tank for free I like it actually nice damage but a little long reload and a little bit slow, armor is good I would say
Tankenstein is pretty outdated, so...not really
Alright so not worth ig
There’s outdated but then there’s also the side buff it got and the zombie crew
It’s cheap as a tier 7
Tbh it needs a buff to certain sides of the armor.
Should be something like tiger P at least since its based off that.
Tiger P has much better armor in front than tankenstein
Only for the turretm the hulls re practically the same since people will be going for the lower pkate anyways
Well turret is better on tankenstein since the top is red but the middle part of tankenstein bothers me alot
Tiger's turret is definitely better
It has the top part cap as weak spot tho?
Yeah but 150mm isn't going to bounce much as flat as Tanken's turret is. It's easier to shoot the cheeks and penetrate
Well im not buying the tankenstein due to the armor then
Guys what do i go for next? (i just researched l100lt) I just have no idea lol, too much to chose from
The gun and lack of need for medkits is what you buy it for. It's just a fun gun to play with, since the prammo is just like SU-100Y's damage over pen prammo
@blissful cave got an idea for tank of the day if you didn't do it already, I think you know this one
Standard B is real?
The Europanzer program (which birthed the leopard and AMX 30 ) had a lot of nato cooperation and lead to a lot of interchangeability ever wondered why leopard PTAs turret is marked A in the upgrades before leopard was finalized there was 3 different designs, Porsche , rhein etc
is this tank possible to get?
That is the tutorial Tiger
damn. so its not possible to own?
Nope, it's way too overcooked to be balanced, it's meant to give players an advantage over their tier 6 competition during the tutorial
It’s also not Italian it’s weird why WG chose to make it so
I assumed it was fake since pretty much all the Italian high tiers are like the progettos and I think the 44 pantera but maybe that one is based on the Hungarian panther copy?
Actually their were 6 different designs
3 German, 3 french
Fun fact Italy does have a med that is possible for tier 10 but it’s visually identical to the leopard
Is the 3 the Amx 30 predecessors
I'm guessing your saying OF40(or a prototype of said)? Well I got this cursed bad boy in that case
What are you guys thoughts on the Medjay? I got it today and I'm using it for a few battles, I think it's amazing
It’s very good
Very good to farm credits also, it's helping me to get enough for the M-V-Yoh, as tanks are getting kinda expensive now
@safe cedar
Looking at those Ukrain bundles. What are your thoughts on the Astron? I value your opinion
Astron is okay, more fun when doubled
rest of the bundle is okay too
imagine no tier 8 premiums
I cant decide, maybe just get the cheaper bundle?
get whichever you want
Looking at the stats im not sure if its a good tank. Reload looks horrible
they said that about the anni and guess where that is now lol
Astron is good
Ok thanks CEO
The Astron rex is not a tank for most people, its not very fast, has low dpm, long reload & clipping times, and poor penetration.
However I absolutely love it due to the high alpha, amazing gun handling & velocity, combined excellent flexibility, an extremely low profile, and surprisingly good armour.
If you want a tank that plays like a Somua SM with much better mobility, then astron rex is your tank.
(Sorry for late response)
I thought the exact same thing, once I played it though, it felt amazing.
Ok great thanks. I think i will try it out
yeah.
Cool mod, where?
And is it only PC???
Yes although not at all related to the Leo and being mechanically different it’s pretty much just an Italian leopard
Well yeah, because its basically a Europanzer.
Looks at Sweden
It’s funny they pretty much let go of the panzers then chose to adopt leopard 2s when Italy went through trouble of domestic production and is now stuck with ariete
Actually sweden made its own leopard 1 copy in the 1960s/70s
That one I’m Aware also that mod is compatible with jail broken iPads there’s also another custom model for the leopard that gives it barbed wire around the sides
Oh it’s this one
Not published, gameslz is still working on it
(It's probably gonna be PC only) (and it's a standard b reskin, aka sluggish leopard PTA)
@valid gale its a lion turret on the standard b's hull, it's just similar looking to the OF 40 so thought it'd be funny to show it
Yeah, sadly that one doesn't work on android anymore
If I was able to get mods I’d so get the GuP mods
I’d be able to get the ones that are in the game (but they refuse to sell :\ plus a ton of others from all the teams
And of course this one (it says tier 8 because I think it’s over the T49 not the BT-7 artillery like most 42 mods)
Spike has eluded me, I think I’ve almost given up hope of ever getting the alternate Strv.
Real life tonk🤣
This smells of ai generated
Nah fam, image is too clean, no random blotches or coloration, and the trees look pretty legit
My dude, look at the front of the turret 💀
You do know some systems are getting that complicated
Wack
So they miniaturised the M8 AGS and made it become an R/C
Woah 😍
Why aren't you able? ios?
I play on switch
Is the IS-5 any worth? Asking because I might restore it again, it costs way less than most premium light tanks I've sold
Not really
yes , credit coe is high but the tank is not great but except for its speed
It's quite comparable to the IS-8/T-10 in terms of armor (lesser) and mobility from what I've observed, also a bit trollish, so I'm gonna take it back from the bin
How do you use those mods?
can anyone gift me Tire X tank or gold ?, please
No
No 
Begging is cringe
@solid gate that's sad dude it's called get a job and do it yourself
Facts
which gun should i run
130mm, no doubt. The 105mm is horrible, and the 130mm is more fun, shot effective and in comparison to the 105mm also wayy better. If you account for bigger caliber = worse handeling & dispersion, the 105mm get's absolutly outclassed. Yes, the 105mm gives turret armor, but if you trade with 540(?) alpha and take a shot of 220 alpha, along with having an amazing 1600 base HP, you can outtrade even tier VIII tanks. As long as you load prem ammo as your standard ammo that is. But I think you know how the gun of the SU-100Y (and thus Tankenstein) and ISU-130 work.
so load gold and trade
Yes, exactly
yea ive been an su100y enjoyer for awhile so the gun is quite similiar
Standard has more pen but lower alpha, and prem has more alpha but lower pen, and thus you should use prem as standard and standard as prem (hope you understand it)
They are similiar cause they're the same gun
Hulldown. Just hulldown
105 mm is better, gives you more armour and a gun that can compete against other tanks even if uptiered
130 is innacurate, has terrible pen and even worse dpm
Idk what hulldown is💀 is it just hiding your hull? And if so, what are the spots on the maps
Hello e50m good choice as medium?
yes
opinions on the Ho-Ri and the entire line? im thinking of grinding it since i already have a spare bit of xp left on the chi-to
Bro, is su-130pm good?
any tips for playstyle that i should get used to while grinding the line i.e going second line or back line?
i see, thanks for the advice 
The 105mm. If you run the 130 you have a longer reload than the smasher for less damage. The 105 also gives you better frontal turret armor, allowing you to play more effectively
130mm. The tank is totally useless with the small gun
Both
V stabs. You want to be able to hit and run
I almost always use that for lights. The right one is best for heavies and tds.
Pretty much vstab on every med/light for me and on some tds that have narrow gun traverse limits
About this one what do I look up to find information this tank like it’s official name (if it’s not standard B)
I found a bit on it by typing standard B
And for AGS is it different from the M8 Buford is this like the earlier stage of it? From this site I found M8 became the new name for it so is the armored turret version the final version?
Leopard Prototyp B.
That's pretty much what it was, WG just decided to implement it as an Italian tank
I think I’ll do that one first since I don’t really know where to go with the M8 one yet
Todays tank is leopard prototype B (aka standard B)
Do I mark it as German or Italian
German or pan-European if you so desire
German-Franco would probably be better since Europanzer was a German-Franco project in the first place
shouldn't have spend 3.5k gold on it tbh
I challenge you ppl to name a tank/military vehicle with a longer name then this.
A possible name for it would be:
Sturmgeschütz Ausführung Standardpanzer Entwicklung 100
(StuG Ausf. E 100)
Cause a 17cm gun using only against tanks is dumb and pointless, hence why it's called Sturmgeschütz and not Jagdpanzer
Interestingly the Germans kind of used StuG and JagdPanzer interchangeably
Wait until you hear BT-42’s full name in Finnish
15 tonnin rynnäkkötykkipanssarivaunu BT-42 (which translates to 15 ton assault gun tank bt-42)
Write out BT
I don’t think BT-42 would use the Russian name in its official designation
The AGS he showed is not related to the Buford
It only keeps the BT name because of the hull
But yea I guess the stuG e 100 one is longer I didn’t see that it went to a second line
I have it set as my “pronoun” in my discord bio lmaooo except it doesn’t even fit so I had to delete the spaces
Pretty much CCVL -XM8-AGS-Buford- thunderbolt and now MPF
Ateliers de construction d'issy-les-moulineaux Char lourd de 50 tonnes surbaissé modèle. 1958, avec Tourelle occilante B 120mm.
Which ones that the AMX 50?
I assume it's the B, or something close to it
AMX tank 50 lowered model, 1958 with oscillating turret 120mm
idk what "lourd" means though 😅
Heavy or fat
fat tank
I think it’s funny how ours isn’t supposed to be a long name simply “weight-assault gun tank-name” but because finnish words are long it just ends up as that
Dont forget Panzer Jäger then Jagdpanzer, lol
Lol <@&481447501690568709>
@high imp bot
Thanks 😊
How much gold is the AMX defender worth?
huh would spend like 5000-6000 gold for it ? idk
I got it for free
How much is 6000 gold in IRL money
depends on where u live
oh then nvm
$12
Makes sense. The WOT gold shop puts 6.5k at €11
M103 getting a hidden nerf sucks
It lost reactive armor because T110E5 did
And the last thing the m103 needed was a nerf as well
Bro didn't just win, he absolutly destroyed the StuG Ausf. E 100 xD
Well, it may not be the longest name, it may be the longest single word in a tank name and surely one of the hardest to remember for a non Finnish or diehard Finish tank lover..
Oh as a funky fact about Finnish sometimes descriptions for all describing one thing don’t use spaces so rynnäkkö tykki and panssarivaunu are all separate words just put together into one making it look very long
It’d be like saying assaultguntank
germans and finnish people agreeing to make the longest words to describe a simple thing:
It’s just simply removing the spaces
Also as another thing the word for tank is panssarivaunu (armored vehicle vaunu is sort of a general word) obviously borrowing from panzer where the English word keeps the code name of “tank” that was given to it to keep it a secret from Germany in WW1
Lmao the amount of times tank being such a general unspecific word being an inconvenience is a lot
Like if I want to look up books for tanks “how to maintain a fish tank” or Thomas the tank engine books would come up first if I just simply type tank book
Or if I want tank shirts oh wait a tank is a kind of shirt so i gotta specify which tank exactly I want a shirt of
I'm considering dropping the american Yoh line, I mean, it's good and I like autoloaders, but, the reload time is kinda slow, and now only at Tier 8, I've realized that it doesn't fit my playstyle, I'm considering doing either the British Heavy line (FV215b), the British TD line (FV215b 183) or the polish heavy tank line, what do you guys say?
For the British heavy line, I do already have the Churchill I unlocked.
Well, first, save your own sanity and don't get the FV215b (183) because it's just trash. Yes, it can be funny, but looking at a normal persons view and wanting to win, it makes you lose. The FV215b is quite good but requires quite some skill to use correctly I heard. The 60TP is good, it's mobility is good looking at it's weight and armor, armor is very good on the turret and troll to decent on the hull. The only major downside is the complete absence of a workable dispersion.
Please not the I only played in the FV215b (183) myself, the FV215b and 60TP things are all based on my expirience fighting against them and other ppls expirience and opinions
60tp is legit faster than type 71 with improved suspension 😭
If you want a British TD, get the FV4005, it's both more enjoyable to play and just better
So, it looks like 60TP is a balanced choice that doesn't have that much problems, seems a good choice to do, even because I was recommended that line before too. I thought the FV215b 183 was good because of some articles i was reading, looks like they were either outdated or just bad
Yeah, the 60TP would overall be a safe and good choice
Just get the FV217 Badger 
So I guess it's time to get going on it, credits won't be a problem as it is being considerably easy to get them with my beloved medjay
Not all ppl have (much) money ;-;
Be aware of not showing your sides too much or you're in for an explosive surprise.
gets ammo racked in the first 5 seconds of the battle
I've been accumulating a lot of XP boosters, I have 60 of the epic ones, will surely help with the 60tp line
Idk how many tanks you have, but in general tanks like the Löwe, Keiler or the T54E2 can make 100k in a single battle (that is if you aren't a moron and deal ~2000 and get 2-3 kills) if you use PA and credit boosters. And unless you're extremly good in the Medjay you'll generally make more credits in a tier VIII prem as long as it's not some trash like the Lansen C
yo don't show your side or this happens
the medjay is the only tank I have that I think has a credit boost, it's on a average of 32k per battle with no boosters, but already went up to 92k with a booster
In general premiums earn more credits, but 92k/battle prob is good enough to do get the job done. Tho you would need 65 battles where you earn 92k just to buy the 60TP itself, no equipment or other tanks accounted
Well, premiums are good to grind, but I have no idea how I'd get one
Obj 752 is the best credit maker for me
I average about 90k - 110k credits per match
You need gold to buy one
If I just didn't buy that regret 'em all crates
t5 mm is kinda broken now , medjay is everywhere , armor the best at its tier
but the tank is very fun. probably one of the best free tanks for its tier , altho even a medjay cant pen a medjay
which is funny when you meet a medjay with a medjay and you can't pen him
even better when angling
I particularly like playing with the medjay a lot because of that, by my biggest fear is that VI VK 36 (or something like that) German heavy tank, the medjay simply cannot pen it in the front and cannot defend its bullets most times
yea , it is hard , 110 pen is just not great (only way to balanced it i guess)
Yeah, while it can pen most tier V and lower tanks in certain parts and has a good amor and autoloader, in exchange you aren't properly fit to fight any tier 6 Heavy or TD
just an old mummy warrior who has risen from the dead n cant fight properly , keeping its egyptian armor.
Don’t buy 60tp
I sure love how tier 5 6 and 7 (if you’re not a Halloween tank) are just a lot less fun with all the Halloween tanks running around there’s like 3 on each team
Tier 5’s fighting medjays and tier 6/7’s fighting Halloween tanks especially forest witch the front armor on that thing is insane with only thin cheeks that are easy to miss if they know to just turn the turret back and forth
Thank god smasher and annihilator don’t count for these missions
You dont wanna play as tier 7 if you’re up against smasher, grave digger annihilator 😬
gravedigger is not OP
Tier 7 is probably my least favorite tier to play there’s a bunch of tanks I really like there and want to use more but it’s just not fun to play
The power crept gap between 7’s and 8’s is huge it’s like they stand no chance against em
As well as the OP 7’s within the same tier that are just always there you’ll always come across annihilators and smashers or some other Halloween tank now with forest witch in there too
The biggest difference between tiers is either 5 against 6’s or 7 against 8’s
Stock 9's vs 10's
I'm looking at you. M46.
Like 8’s feel fair against 9’s and 9’s against 10’s and all the ones below 5 are very close to eachother
Well yeah any tank stock is bad
So many good tanks at tier 8. I know when im playing that tier and see an Anni, its like aw how cute
Yeah I think it’s funny that I get to bully the Halloween tanks when I’m just playing 8’s for fun rn
If I can’t play my tier 6’s then I’ll just play more of my 8’s than usual
Mind you me and clan mate played two Witches in 3 tier 8 games, we won two
Even as an 8 the forest witch’s front armor is insane the cheeks are easily avoidable as a weak spot by just turning back and forth
Yea there’s a few tier 5’s I really like
Like T-34 shielded looks really cool but tier 6’s are like “shielded? That’s cute”
Personally tier 6 is lowest i go.
I mostly play within 8-10
Go down to 5 or 6 for fun since pretty much all the iconic WW2 favorites there like Shermans,KV 1 and 2,TOG,T-34’s churchills,tiger 131 etc
But I have several low tier tanks I really like 1-4
T-127 (prototype of T-50 a tank i really like but isn’t in the game)
Großtraktor the predecessor design to Neubaufahrzeug one of my top favorite tanks
Of course the Finnish tier 1 ‘,:)
And I would say BT-7 artillery but dang that thing is unplayable
And some others like M5 Stuart,combat car (for the funny) and Matilda is a tank i like irl
You have more fingers then games ive played 1-3
Ohhh and I forgot my favorite
T-28 is easily my favorite “low tier tank” (1-4) it’s like my 4th favorite tank irl
I got the Valentine tier 4 tank, played it for giggles for couple games. Im just used to higher tier tanks.
It sucks they’ll never add low tier tanks I really wish Neubaufahrzeug and T-50 can be added instead of only just their predecessor/prototype designs
Neubaufahrzeug my weirdo beloved
They never play as you might expect them too in real life. So i dont really care for what tank it is, i just look at the stats
I play tanks that I actually like no matter how they play (but if they’re really boring or some just really bad I can’t deny that,I kinda just play em less but still play em rarely)
I play whatever looks cool
And if a tank is “good” but I don’t like it then I won’t play it
Like I really don’t like most of the really fake ones like the Halloween tanks
And I just despise borrasque and badger specifically I will never own those tanks
I will play tanks that look good as long as they dont suck. T-56 for example
Badger rocks
Tiger II is great looking tank, and its stats are great as well
Updating my tank top 10 rn and pretty much nothing has changed except for IS-7 overtaking KV-2 as 10th
But my main rule is it’s only tanks that were actually built so I’m gonna make a second one that includes incomplete prototypes and concept designs and dang that will make things wildly different
Tornvagn would easily be my favorite tank if it was actually built I absolutely love that thing
And other stuff like concept 1B,Lansen,Kranvagn (only half was built),maybe throw in a Yoh or two and of course Chrysler
Most of my favorite tanks are soviet and Chinese, plus the T57 which unfortunately was ruined by poor balancing
Poor balancing? T57 is fine lmao
Balancing is more than just how good or bad a tank is
In my eyes it was already ruined by 9.1 which was arguably its strongest state.
T57 is definitely poorly balanced. 1200 in 5s or 4s with clip booster in exchange for crap mobility & armour is so dumb. They should just revert it to the pre-9.1 state.
With hundreds of tanks and liking em all it’s so hard to put together even a top 20 especially since this time I’m including incomplete prototypes and concepts because I’m all like “ah I can’t just NOT somehow fit the M36 Jackson or the Sheridan in there they’re cool af”
Well it’s a lot but I finished
Any last minute changes maybe putting T30 or Sheridan in that 20 spot and put Yoh 4 in honorable mentions I know I like those 2 more than Yoh but can’t decide which one
no M8
I didn’t even know that one existed until someone told me about it like yesterday (if you’re talking about that one mentioned above and not the howitzer Stuart)
I think this guy likes sweden
Swedish tanks easily gotta be my favorites and they have so many cool designs that were never built or finished rip Tornvagn,lansen and the entire Emil project (plus Strv K which stems from that)
Udes 15/16
I also really like Strv 74 but I can’t fit hundreds of tanks here I like pretty much all tanks
US and Swedish tanks are generally most of my favorites
Banger after banger
Sweden be like “let’s make some of the coolest tank designs ever and then NOT build them”
It’s a miracle Strv 103 was actually made
"Mmmm leopard 2 lookin real fine"
"We gonna cop a few"
T57 is not for brawling , it can just not like a real heavy tank does
Why T-28 💀
The Jgpz. E100 is ust satisfying...
Well it has that auto loader gun that makes it pretty good
Fr i actually want this low tier maus in wot
it doesn’t have armour bro
Have you seen it in Wt?
yeah and it’s pretty easy to deal with
Better than T-80U, Abrams and Leclerc ig
No because no one buys that and if they did its a lie because they dont exist
Is the subscription worth it? You now this with gold , containers and other things.
kinda?
It depends on luck right?
I do rather get that, but its not even that good tho
But has nearly the same gold and at least a tank for sure
Wish it gave gold comp then I would buy it but not going to spend £12 on credits. Only 4/5 tanks I don’t have from it
idk where to put this but this what the soviet heavy branch would look like if it was realistic
Why would the ISU lead to an IS-2
And a KV-1S to KV-85 to KV-122 tree occupies too many tier slots tbh
yea its just the KV series development guide
also
its the other way around, IS-2 leads to ISU
cause ISU is made with an IS chassis
SU-152 + IS = ISU-152
Kinda whack format tbh. Also I would've been more interested in what the higher tiers would be
I simply LOVE the design of T-28 the huge multi turret design i really like another reason is it’s Finnish use and history making it my 5th all time favorite
Fun fact they nicknamed this tank “postijuna” (mail train) because one of the ones they captured was full of mail to be sent back to Soviet territory and say it kinda looks like a train
I love T-28 : )
Then you will probably like the T-35. I've seen this thing only once, but it's really enormous, like, it is almost twice the size of the T-28.
Yees I know about T-35 the even bigger T-28 that one’s cool too one if it’s turrets is the T-26 one

Yea it’s a lot like T-28 during that era where even huge tanks had very thin armor the most similar thing in game is it’s predecessor Großtraktor and even though it’s a heavy it has no armor
Lmaooo speaking of guess who’s in the shop rn I just opened the game for the first time today and großtraktor happened to come for sale
Very cool mod, whats the base?
people be thinking your short until they realize how big T-28 is
Smells like the KV-4 in a way
Probably
Yea tanks are huge I’m 6ft
Yeah, im not surprised.
I can't even see the deck of AMX-50b, lol. Even my 2.05m beast of a brother is absolutely dwarfed by a good of tanks.
But I was surprised just how huge KV-1 next to it is it’s like as big as it
T-28 somewhat expectable since it’s supposed to be one of those big “landship” kinda ideas but KV-1 is simply just a huge tank
Youll be shocked how big maus is
ISU-152 is one I am always surprised by whenever I see it it looks a lot smaller in pictures and expect it to be smaller because it’s a turretless TD but it’s still massive
what would happen if the sp1c and ru 251 were given spall liner?
Then I wouldn’t be able to one hit it with ISU-152 HE lmao
Also I’ve never seen an IS only the ISU so basically only the hull of one
The gun is equally massive.
IS-2 and 3 are two I really want to see but Finland never captured a 2 and 3 I COULDVE seen at bovington but I didn’t know they even had one (it was somewhere in the conservation garage I had limited view of the sentinel was in there too I really wanted to see that)
well, i don't really like being bullied by smashers
Mhm, the conservation garage is honestly bullocks.
They had Strv 103 in there too but luckily that one was right in front of the place I had limited view of,sentinel was way in the back corner I didn’t know it was even there until I had to piece it together if it’s exact location using videos
Basically in short they posted a video about it and I saw Pershing in the back which I could see the turret of so using that I figured out it was in that back corner
Im pretty sure their is something you can do to see the floor of the conservation centre.
Bovington be like “look at all these cool unique tanks we have too bad you can’t see half of them”
When I went you were only allowed on this balcony that overviews it but as I said the ones in the back corner weren’t visible and they’re all very close to eachother it’s hard to tell what some are
Visitors are not allowed.
You have to get explicit permission to go to the floor.
Yooo I saw the sentinel in my picture exactly where I figured out it’d be
When I asked someone there they straight up told me they don’t have the sentinel anymore
Right there against the wall with the chairs by the Pershing (notice camo color)
Hopefully I’ll go back and during a day they have the tanks running
And Strv 103 I want to go back to Sweden but like actually this time (not just cross the border and be like “yooo I’m in Sweden”) and go to a tank museum there since I absolutely love their tank designs and maybe even see that half completed kranvagn
I neeed to see maus and Karl gerät is right next to it too
I just want to go to kubinka in general they have so many cool ones I need to see like IS-7,SU-100Y and the weirdo object 279
Oh, I was there a long time ago
Kranvagn is in a bad state
Just beware, it's missing quite a few peices & unfortunately still hasnt had its wheels/suspension restored.
They should make a replica turret to at least have it look complete
I think the return of its roadwheels first would be a greater priority.
slap that centurion turret on it and make Strv K official
It would be a great idea, unfortunately the museum is starved of cash
Imagine how weird that’d be for tank history
Original plans-around the time kran was built
Strv K actually assembled-present day
Service? Never because it was just put together in a museum
im sure if someone organized the fundraising and got a surplus Centuion turret and shipped it to the Museum they would absolutely consider it.
Yoooo
If you get enough people to care it can happen
Parola tank museum was saved by girls und panzer because of the popularity it gave BT-42 making tons of people want to preserve the only surviving one and fund building a shelter roof over the tanks
Same thing happened to Batchat.
Really?
Lol it would have been destroyed in WOT was never released.
Yea wot is how everyone knows a lot of these tanks even exist at all
I wouldn’t know like anything about obscure prototypes or even concepts if it weren’t for this game
Basically just only all the main iconic actually used tanks
depends, its a chonky boi but does have it's advantages
I'm a big believer in DU rounds over tungsten rounds personally
Leopard is definitely the best tank for the export market though. Since US doesn't sell their best Abrams, and Leclerc is very expensive apparently
ку
Leopard 2 fan boy spotted, opinion invalidated.
Abrams & leclerc are both easily on par with leopard 2.
T-80u & Leopard 2a1 are roughly on par.
I feel like Leopard 2 fans just like it because they feel as though it carries on the legacy of the likes of the tigers and panthers
There's almost no evidence to suggest it is superior to other top western designs
I just like it for its interesting development life, post production ehhh
Leopard 1 looks cooler and is therefore better 😎
I like leopard 2 it’s my favorite of the current day MBT designs
Yeah grobtracktor is in shop. Tho idk why they sell all of the low tier tanks for usd
Like what if we wanna buy with gold
Protection frontally is superior to leclerc and abrams it’s also lighter than the abrams , abrams is really the only thing better than the leopard but because it’s so technology and resource demanding it’s not an ideal choice for exports
Leclerc also isn’t ideal it’s even more technology intensive and has far less protection than the rest of the current mbts
I highly doubt we can evaluate protection considering how classified some of the information is
Leopards front turret armor even hollow causes darts to shatter and fail from how steep it is hulldown is the same story this has been known since the A5 model
Same goes for the A2 in raw thickness it’s better than the leopard the 2C thickens the turret even more
When it comes to the guns abrams is nearing the max lifespan of the M256 and the A4 round maxes out of the current designs capability
Abrams guzzling fuel like nothing else:
It’s not fuel hungry as it’s mythed to be odd enough
It takes multiple different fuels too
For the power it gets, it’s fuel consumption is rather reasonable
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that the AMX 56's side protection was absolutly horrible
Depends on which Abrams you take, the latest version yes, the AbramsX not by any means. (Ik that the AbramsX is just to show what they can make, and not a real prototype unlike the Kettenfahrzeug 51 Panther, but this is a weegee server)
Although I do have the idea that the Leopard 2A7+ is overlooked by the M1A2 Abrams, T-14 Armata and the K2 Black Panther. Feels like ppl forget about and it's existence it's capabilities, just like the AMX 56 and T-90MS Tagil <-- yes the Tagil is something worth and not useless
Its actually better than sep v3 abrams in the latest edition of leclerc.
Oof
Leopard 2 is probably the most renowned and universally acclaimed tank alongside the vaunted abrams.
T-14 Armata is wayy more hyped up, at least I feel like it is
generally the T-## series has proven itself to be absolutely superb. Anyone who discounts the latest T-80 & T-90 variants is just kissing their own cheeks.
Yeah
well I believe that's up to debate if we consider combat performance. although it might have more to do with tactics than the technical capabilities
I mean, ppl compare Russian tanks to tanks of countries with unlimited budget, ofc they won't always win
If you look at the Golan heights defense by Israel, I would argue that's not a matter of budget, but gun elevation, gun depression, tactics, and armor
its like people comparing T-72b to Leopard 2a7
Yes
Look at the iran-iraq war. When on equal footing they devoured cheiftans & pattons whole.
Then they also should compare a Leopard 1 to a T80BVM or smth
neither T-64, T-72, or T-80 fought at golan heights.
Battle of 73 Easting
Ik you shouldn't talk about politics here, but I don't want to hear the word Israel or Palestina,
exactly, T-72a was produced closer to 1941 than it was to 2010.
No, but T-XX series tanks did, and I think it is an example where they were overhyped, by quite a lot, fighting half modernized Centurions
Remember that even with an auto reloading system, you still need a crew with training
Now, it is as everything, there is overhype and underestimation, not all tanks on the T-## line were superb in all situation and contexts, as multiple wars have also proven
Yeah, Oh my... poorly equipped 20+ year old tanks of a demoralized army that had already knew they lost, failed to stop the coalition of the most powerful armies in human history.
If your counting T-54... sure...
However thats not what Im referring too.
Elements of Republican guard in dug in defending positions. Hardly people looking to raise the white flag. The fire control was simply superior. Mind you Bradley's had a fair share of the ass kicking
Do you know why they were dug in? Because they lacked the skill, training, and support to conduct combined arms operations.
especially considering the republican gaurd ultimately put up less of a fight than the main-stay regular army.
Its like pitting a 7 year doberman against a pair of 3 year old pit-bulls. Of course the pit-bulls will win, they are specialized, aggressive, know what to do, and outnumber the doberman. Does that mean the doberman is a weak dog? Not at all, its just old, outnumbered, and not suited for the given scenario.
Outnumbered? The Abrams were Outnumbered. But like a said superior fire control and optics and good old initiative
Yeah, putting a 2 year old tank with trained crew against a 30 year old tank with a crew that barely knows how to fire a rifle, let alone operate a tank is fair
Is the Abrams a better tank than the T-72? Undoubtedly.
Also, is pitting vastly superior crews against an enemy that decided to turn their tanks into fixed fortifications a good way to judge performance? Definitely not
The Republican Guards were not some green outfit. You forget they were battle tested against Iran
Better than conscripts? Yes. Anywhere near the training/cohesion/skill of US crews? No
At the end of the day, in most machine vs. machine battles, the outcome is like 70% dictated by whoever has the better crew/pilot/men behind the wheel
Yeah
I think nobody can argue it was a fair fight, clearly the coalition had many advantages
If you reversed the tables and placed m1 abrams against T-72b or T-72B3 abrams would likely have suffered a similar situation to the T-72m's.
Im not talking about the whole war. But just one battle
you cannot just ignore the context of that battle
that is ambitious hehe, but we will never know
It’s difficult to judge the performance based on that one battle. It’s like judging the performance of Abrams by some of the humiliating Abrams losses in the hands of many Middle Eastern crews
I think it's safe to say the middle east can be entirely disregarded in terms of the effectiveness of armored fighting vehicles.
Considering Africans managed to do better with T-34s and armoured cars than they did with actual tanks.
The only modern conflict involving MBTs I can think of off the top of my head that has large scale battles that wasn’t fought between totally lopsided crew qualities are the Pakistan/Indian wars
Remind me when Iran consistently defeated some of the strongest global powers in modern history.
then your argument on the Iran-Iraq war doesn't work either (I don't know this war enough arguably). Nonethless, we go back to context, and the absence of "magic weapons"
Iran-iraq war is something of an abnormality, given both sides were relatively equally matched.
Whats the point your trying to make? It was regional conflict between Iran and Iraq. Iran only fights proxy wars now
probably because they keep losing
Iran's navy resembles what you might see during Florida superbowl party
Thats the point
If you compare Iraq had the upper hand to start with. The war was a bloody draw
that very subjective to take that war and say "this one is the only valid argument in the ME" and even then, as other pointed out, it wasn't so one sided
Im not saying it should be considered either, im simply stating its an abnormality.
Abrams TUSK my beloved
Even in todays conflict. Tank on tank is rare. Im talking about Russian - Ukraine
another good example of the not so superb T-## tanks in some contexts
Personally My favorite is AMX auf 1.
Not really, it’s just a complete failure of Russian tactics to deal with an enemy that isn’t willing to face them head in in a war of annihilation
T-90MS Tagil my beloved <3
ehh overall they have been doing fine now that the situation has stabilized.
Given that its all shiny and new. All interviews ive seen of Western armour in Ukrainian hands. Its been more popular vs the Soviet tanks they had for longer. Better crew survival and fire control and optics
We didn’t suffer having to adhere to to an old doctrine
AAAAGH I didn’t do a tank of the day yet
M50 Ontos
I know
https://i.insider.com/61057e83ea74d40019ba040e?width=1200&format=jpeg ayo what is that?!
now thats a joke and a half
“Hmmmg put MORE guns on it”
all of them are recoilless rifles lol
"ok so we cant really hop out and load one in the middle of combat"
"just add a few more so you have backups in combat, just reload them when you have disengaged"
this would likely be an SPG and not an assault tank
wrong reply
They still count for T.O.D
As I’ve said vehicles that are very similar to tanks like artillery,armored cars and SPG’s count too
anyways it probably would not be used in direct combat scenarios
no they count
I was referring to CEO
Ah perfect much better
For when 6 is just not enough
Tell that to the Swedes that CHOSE the Leopard 2 and its NOT my opinion it is a HISTORICAL fact
If they wanted other tanks they would've changed by now wouldn't they
The Swedes made improvements to the leopard 2s they have…
That they did
swedish military budget: nej
Strv 122 has better roof and frontal armor then leopard 2 while sporting the L55
honestly whenever a country buys something military related from another, its mostly about cost compared to quality
plus the Swedes are really, really good at modifying things for their needs
On the topic of exports
Apparently Singapore had the same type of testing the Swedes did with MBTs
We were offered the Chally 2 and Leo 2 and we all know which one blew what out of the water
Wonder why we weren't offered the Merk
That one’s the worst possible one for exports
chally 2 is overweight and cumbersome
also rifled gun (i hate the MoD)
Slow - frontal armor is surprisingly weak and very technology intensive on the exterior of the turret alone
honest to god our MoD denying us good MBTs since the 60s
The least know tank export Singapore had was the few Centurion mk 5s
We’re pretty good at that too : D
bolts a bunch of metal plates onto what are already very lightly armored tanks but I guess it worked
A lotta people consider the AMX-13-90 to be our MBT when something bigger exists
Israel kinda wants to keep them all
Well someone bought 50 Merkava IVs
@honest rampart hello, sorry if i bother you, but, updates on the polish line - i am already in the 40TP Habicha, I believe it won't take so long to get into tier 7 and 8
Its almost like... germany had a surplus of leopard 2's which were cheaper than buying fresh leclercs or abrams...
that and the Leo doesnt chug down fuel like Budweisers on a hot summer day
Your AMX-13s are barely functional, they are literally falling apart. However if your government is interested I'll gladly take your AMX-13s off your hands.
buddy you're about 20 years too late
They are still in service... lol...
Wait that's indonesia
bro actually
Shhh samething.
We didn't colonize you guys, how would I know.
tbf getting colonized by France is the worst fate that can befall a nation so i think its a plus
No, being colonized by Belgium, portugal, or Germany is worse
thankfully its impossible
Tell that to congo
impossible as in they couldnt come here
They could... lol
However currently they are trying to keep people out, not bring people in.
portugal got only a pube hair of land out of the South East Asian region, what makes you think Belgium and Germany can do better
that and i think both were never interested in SEA in the first place (only rumors about Germany colonizing North Malaya which ofc didnt happen)
How to block damage?
Gib ur enemi most armored spot
T1 Heavy Usa tank
Man thats painful
Ok Thanks can you tell me Which part of tanks are more penetrable and how to check it?
Thanks
Langkawi moment
Naah. It's a solid tank lol
The backside of any tank is the weakest.
But u cannot always expect a tank to show its butt towards u.
Side tracks, lower plate of the hull, turret cheeks are some of the notable weak spots other than the back.
If u ever feel to use HE, target the back and the turret cheeks which are often weak. DON'T HIT THE TRACKS.
AP shells are a confirm hit if used at the weak point.
You could also use resources like Armor inspector and tank compare, etc.
Except Excelsior, AT 2, and some others
Excelsior casually having more rear armour than the sides is pretty funny
No, you're not bothering me, don't worry about that :) And no, mostly tier VI and VII are quite easy to go trough, although the 53TP (tier VIII) is quite expensive, but agruabaly the strongest techtree tank of the tier
decided to feed the machine, spent 20k gold for drac
What made you think that was a great idea
A subpar medium that only goes fast and is just an overglorified light tank
4.5k could be a good amount for what it is, funnelling nearly 5x the amount is pure ridiculous and shows WG how gullible you people are for the supply and demand trick
You know they lack in the IQ department when they spend near 20k on the drac. Especially since it usually comes at Christmas time for 10k in the auction
nice event
LTG or LTTB ?
Ltg imo
Hey do you know if it's the T29 that will get a new visual quality next update ? Or the T34 ?
T30
Nice thanks
Missing only the Witcher
LTTB
What's the best tank in level 6?
Churchill W is good in my opinion
imp it’s the KV-2 cus one shot memes are always fun
VK36 is a good option to consider
VK 20.01 with the 105mm
just got the dracula from draw
how much did it cost you
I sold it
I don’t get it, why does it decrease the average speed?
extra weight? lol I don't know, weird though
Todays tank of the day is Sturmgeschütz III
Why would you sell it?
🎉
Garbage tank
It’s at the very least on par with the smasher and Annihilator 💀
LTG 💪
Oh, I'm a huge fan of the Stugs, it's the most common tank I've seen IRL. The germans produced a boatload of them and the Ausf G (we also had a couple of Ausf Cs) was the most powerful tank fielded by my homeland in WW2. I really want to sit inside one but all I've seen are in VERY poor condition
Here's a picture of an Ausf C and a G operated by the bulgarian royal army
Yeees the stuG was a hugely important tank in Finland too they were the most useful tanks we had and nicknamed Sturmi
because we like imitating the major powers, we used the very german dry sounding "Shturmovo orudie T-III" - Assault gun T-III
waaait a min. WE HAD A JAGDPANZER 4?! (This is the only pic of a bulgarian Jpz 4 when it was in service, I think it's in Hungary, pushing back our former allies - the germans, it's the later long barrel one, every other picture I find is when it was entrenched in the krali marko line postwar)
this server really needs a historical chat
When Germany helped in the continuation war Finland bought StuGs which became the most reliable tank since mostly relying on capturing tanks is pretty inconsistent with amount and condition you get them in
Exactly I use this channel as that constantly because it’s the closest one that isn’t one of the general chats where it’s hard to have a conversation when there’s like 5 different ones going on at once
We’re talking about tanks so vehicle discussion is good enough
Alright, I haven't read about our army in a bit. Well it was one hell of a mess tank wise - at the end of WW2 we had:
Stug 3, ausf C and G - Shturmovo orudie T-III
Stug 4
Panzer 4 G - Maybach T-IV
Pz 38t
LT vz 35 from the Chezh - named Skoda T-11
Jagdpanzer 4 with both the short gun and the L70 long 75
Hetzer
two T-34/85s left over from passing soviets in early '45
Panzer 1, H35 and Vickers E for training
And I think the panther that is hiding in the back was broken down, so I don't classify it as an operational tank
Stug is on chase of pz3 right?
Yes stug is III
Jagdpanzer iv is panzer iv
Don't forget the Stug IV, which was a stug III casemate welded to a Panzer 4 hull
look up the waffentragers, some of them are real
I know about the waffentragers, I've seen the Alkett WT in real life too and I know the jpz 4 is real, I didn't know such a small minor army like ours would have a Jpz 4, they're like rare and probably needed by the germans
krupp-steyr to
it's easily the best looking one, I've forgotten if it survived the war or not
also the ardelt, but im pretty sure it was blueprint only
oh wait I've seen this one IRL, in kubinka, absolutely real and very strange looking
unless the one above isn't ardelt bc this one is different and goes by same name
next to I think the only sturer emil left
imagine if the WT Auf E100 was real, ngl WG did pretty well at making a fictional WT based off E100
holy F boys!
howd the event get you them all? or just the camos?
yo does anyone know what the credit coefficient for the tornvagn is? blitzstars doesn't say
also if you have experience with it, is it good for grinding credits? i have some other tier 8 premiums but i don't enjoy the playstyle of those and mostly play them for credits. kinda wanted a credit grinder i'd enjoy more
lowe, super persh,ts5, soviet heavies, 274a are all at the top of tier 8 credit makers
most tier 8 premiums grind credits well
the tornvagn just goes hulldown and can start farming
ok cool think i'll get it, mostly just wanted a tank for credits i can tolerate playing
just so you know it gets boring quick
least boring and mentally draining hulldown spam tank:
i was actually grinding the kran line and ran out of credits for the kran itself, i like those tanks and i assume they play the same way as the tornvagn, think i might enjoy it if the playstyle's similar enough
I think it would be amazing
Sad only 1 sturer emil
I got an offer for this ace pfp does it mark any special thing like passing 100 aces I got the offer on my 104th ace game
And now there’s a temporary one that was given to me too
No it’s just a thing that pops up
Thats an R35 btw.
Their were literally two, the fact one remains is absolutely insane.
Apparently, the Russians have created the Grille (or the SU-130pm if you're a purist)
grille but without armor on the gun
This would be a nice skin for the STRV K
yeah i wonder when blitz gets a collab with sabaton properly
they would never do that
At the very least? Do u even know what that means? The forest witch is trash
Which type of tank is good Heavy tank or Tank Destroyer?
I need it
Ur skill and playstyle determine all
I have a fully upgraded kv2, and I kinda like to switch guns and go full on derp or sometimes with the zis6, and I was wondering what gun is better, because sometimes with the zis6 you go into a tier 7 battle but sometimes with the 152 millimeter gun you don’t have much penetration and you have much longer reload time. But with the zis6 about most of the time I head into battle is when I lose that game. Any tips?
for the 152 in t7 u should avoid fighting face to face but remeber dont camp just support ur hts
everytime 152, if u figure out u cant pen something just splash them with HE, u dont need to got for a pen everytime
107mm for being effective
152mm for memes
- you can just splash people with the 152mm for a guaranteed 300-500 damage
But what equipment should I use
I would go for normal rammer + aimtime
blitz still has broken he mechanics- u can splash crazy with kv2. just aim in in the general area of the turret ring or engine deck and watch ppl get set on fire
Switch between guns they are both competitive and completely fun.
Im personally à 107mm lover.
Are calibrated shells good tho?
blasphemy!!
No, then you cant capitalise on the insane dpm
So no supercharger then right?
since u dont snipe hopefully no, ofc not
supercharger is kinda ehh since pen over distance doesnt matetr in blitz, plus learn to lead your shells
aiming devices and calibrated - u need it
Do I use improved optics?
it is somewhat in play due to shell velocitiess being nerfed across the board and many rounds being switched to apcr
why drop aimtime for the "ohh i cant give lead" crutch
since u dont snipe hopefully yes ofc yes
giving lead needs a lot of open space. which happens rarely. im talking abt cluth shots during mid range peeking
like the only tank i use SC on is the Leo 1 for the M7 sv meme
Should I use high end consumables
yeah you give lead there by aiming where the enemy will be when your shell lands
@timid phoenix CDS is always better unless you have a superconsumable, which the KV-2 doesnt
I personally prefer cooldown speed but u need to know
panther and st.emil is it a good duo?
2 tanks in garage 💀
ranks 💀
no credits 💀
no provisions 💀
goofy aah ammo load on St. Emil 💀
optics on a sniper TD 💀
your entire account is just bad decisions
i got hacked tho and i didnt play the game for 3 months
St. Emil only has 2 shell types on the top gun
10 and 8 is kinda pushing it, even though the St. Emil is still unlikely to fire all 18 shells, its nonetheless an unusual loadout for it
That’s fair
I would probably do 12/6 lol
Im still confused why this tank is a Blitz nation, like we have now EU tanks so why is this standing in Blitz Nation????
ikr same with t55a and I think Swedish t6 autoloader is still blitz flag
Annoyingly, so does the M4/FL10
mind you, thats an Egyptian tank
its probably WG just being lazy and forgetting though
T-55A should be in the German tree
I mean they could just shove it to the French tech tree in a way
Like the supposedly M4A1 Rev
They did that with PC so why not Blitz
They should do the flags for the smaller countries with not enough tanks and wouldn’t fit in EU like Egypt like they do with Australia in Britain or Canada in US
Just put the Egypt flag but have it work as a hybrid nation in game (appears in the sort,has their consumables and stuff)
Well meaby like a global flag
isn't that how it works now , thy have Canada/Aussie flag backdrop but under blitz flag I think
Canada has the flag but works as a US tank
And Australia appears under Britain
They use their consumables and appear in sort as those
no we'd (Can) be under British or blitz flag, same as Aussie
In the game Canada is sorted under US
really wow I haven't played the ram is awhile, hmm that's odd to be under the states
guess maybe because it was a US tank to start with
Better Put it under #clan-recruitment before something bad happens
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Bro bout to get the hammer he put it in EVERY chat in this server
When they will add a new X tank?
There’s 2 in testing rn and I bet they’ll be released one for Black Friday one for Christmas
The Chinese 114 one and American XM66
Wtf hell nah
they probably gonna be ass
When is going to be the goat VK 90.01 (P)??
Bc I got 20k for VK and I’m waiting when they will add the tank
What British tier x is good for beginners?
Wdym
You don’t know what it means?Like the British tank
I will show u
@timid phoenix
Snickers = this one
The 114 sp2 seems to be meh, TD in wot and a heavy with no armour in blitz. The xm66 it gonna be strong as they keep nerfing and buffing it. This means they know it’s OP but are refusing to just make it properly balanced
none of them
The 4202 would probably be fine, I know the player would have to learn the non hesh gun is better but that’s not hard to realise
Is there also any good tier 10 American tanks?
Gotta do a tank of the day but I have work all day today so I gotta think of one that’d be quick and easy to write one for
Is 60tp lewandoskigo a good tank for beginners?
Why does the Glacier appear to be a worse version of the Centurion 7/1?
ghbdtn
Todays tank of the day T-50
I already did one on the captured T-50 in Finnish service but this one is about the production history of the tank
Русские есть?
I will Say something i am from Hungary and i know wot added and have hungarian tanks so no problem right? No they are premium that means i can't get them but i really like hungarian tanks so can you please add them in europe or something 😀
I mean we have more then 7 types of Toldi and ithink 8 of Turan and i am not even speaking of tank destroyers and heavys
no
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