vehicles-discussion

[acoustic vault]

But, I really want the T67 or the Pz. 38 t, (T67 is my favorite rare tank).

[kind flicker]

t67 was given for free some time ago if i remember right

[acoustic vault]

I wanted that so bad

[warm umbra]

I consistently get 2k dm in a leo

[wise parcel]

any suggestions on how to play as AT25 (Tier 7 American TD, next to Jackson)? Feels difficult especially the gun's not rotatable

Anyone?

[misty wing]

just try to abuse your gun depression and frontal armor

it's kinda an all rounder as far as TDs go

[tepid stump]

yeah the T25 AT is pretty much an American jadgpanther

[distant nymph]

Any ideas how to play the WZ-131 (Tier 7 one). I've just fully upgraded it and I'm rocking a 30-something % winrate in it. Just can't find anything good it does and constantly facing tier 8s doesn't help at all.

[silver torrent]

Should I save my gold up for something like a tier 10 prem or buy this

[wispy trench]

How about wait....

Blitz birthday is around the corner...

[wise parcel]

ughh wtf

It's so hard trying to adjust with unrotatable turrets, I can't just find out how I position myself

I got allies as cover but like, I don't have side shooting as options

Hills? I can't even point the gun down.

[misty wing]

You have 10 degrees of gun depression...

[ocean ingot]

Bro rip players who bought before sale

[wise parcel]

still wouldn't be enough to snipe even to the less steep hills, and I think T25 AT only have 5 degrees

[misty wing]

It has 10, which is considered very good. Only a handful of tanks at higher tiers have more that

[wise parcel]

Or so what I remember, but still. either my crosshair just go all the way up when shooting at hills or I have troubles adjusting from jackson to this tank

[misty wing]

It sounds like you haven't played turreted TDs before. Have you maxed the tank out?

[wise parcel]

I mean I just bought it

Only researched the engine with the saved up xp I had

[misty wing]

Stick it out until you get the top gun. It might be inflexible (by your standards, anyway), but by then it will make up for that with raw firepower.

[wise parcel]

I don't really mind using it, but feels like I've been pushed back to training camp again with the turret lol

[misty wing]

I played turretless tanks before turreted ones (my first tier 4 was Hetzer), so it was like the opposite reaction for me

[wise parcel]

Every trick I used with rotatables isn't useable to it now

oh.. 😓

Really, I just wanna know the tricks again

[misty wing]

It's honestly not that hard to find spots where you can shoot the enemy while facing them directly. If you can't, the only solution is to camp until the numbers drop and you can just yolo in

If you want, you can pull up an image of a map from https://map.wotinspector.com/en/?platform=blitz and I can show you some good spots

[copper swan]

don't think t67 was ever given away after update 5.5

[solid gate]

Save

[dark schooner]

One of my best games. Period. Is there anything I could still do here to improve my gameplay?

[night citrus]

finally found my effort, when T28 was named the "free box of damage" cuz it had no armor whatsoever

[dark schooner]

Damn, 5k

[wispy trench]

Nostalgia photo.

[dark schooner]

Ok why is it so easy to get a mastery in the t28

I just had an average 2.7k game and got a mastery???

[night citrus]

cuz the tank is bad and will forever be, even tho they pretty much buffed the armor and gave it good stuff

[copper swan]

the tier 8 T28 tank destroyer is kinda a frontal wall only to light and medium tanks with a good gun but easily flanked and super slow

[night citrus]

^^ back then, frontal wall was meant as a joke, since everyone could just use normal ammo and it would butter through the cheeks near the gun

[onyx raven]

Holy mother of god

Ban that one now pls

[solid gate]

113 or vz 55 for comp

[night citrus]

279

[safe cedar]

What the hell is this abomination?

[misty wing]

The tank?

[night citrus]

looks like a pershing, but the turret is too fat

[safe cedar]

@misty wing
Most the italiens are fake, but standard isn't lol.

[misty wing]

That's why I singled it out, they had to put a German (or mostly german) tank into the tree because the Italians didn't have enough lol

[hollow loom]

Looks a bit like chaffee

[night citrus]

but thats a pershing hull

[misty wing]

Looks like an M47 Patton with the M46/Pershing Mantlet.

[valid gale]

It literally is German it’s the B prototype of the leopard why wg made it Italian is a mystery

[night citrus]

but the turret sides makes it look like they ate too much burgers

[safe cedar]

Want me to list every fake french tank?

[misty wing]

I can bet Lorraine 50T is on there

I feel like French tanks are usually better looking the more real/in production they are

[safe cedar]

Well yeah, because french army has strict requirments

[onyx raven]

“Ze enemy must think zat le tank est very beautiful , oui oui?”

[onyx raven]

Yes

Oh no

How long is this gonna be

[misty wing]

ARL 44 with the stock turret

[onyx raven]

If we go by that logic, then most tanks are fake

[safe cedar]

TD- magically they are all real. Albeit tier 7-10 are actually the exact same tank. The Sau40, arl v36, and AMX-50 foch were all built. All tanks have an incorrect configuration except argueably foch

heavy- bdr is fake, AMX-50 100 and AMX-50 120 have the wrong turrets, AMX m4 54 is an incorrect interprétation (fake) tcb was only to be mounted on lowered hull, however it's completely plausible and likely that the AMX-50 (100) would be used as a test bed for the tcb turret. ARL stock turret is from FCM super heavy.

Mediums: AMX-40, bourrasque, and char futur 4 are fake. Lorraine & AMX-30 1er are incorrectly represented

Lights: AMX-13 57 and batchat 25t ap is fake, Batchat is missing it's 90mm gun, elc and 12t are missing their historique top guns, and AMX-13 90 is missing it's heat.

[misty wing]

FCM 50T is real? And the AMX 65T?

[onyx raven]

BDR ain’t fake. It was part of the G1 program.

AMX-40 was a real project pre-war.

Char Futur were blueprints that eventually lead to the Leclerc.

AMX-13-75 is the early version of the tank prior to the usage of the 90mm F3.

BC-25t AP was designed by FAMH, so it’s only named improperly.

[misty wing]

He means the duck amx 40 surely
Oh I read post war mb

[safe cedar]

Fixed, I meant 57.

[onyx raven]

No, that was a real design too.

Also, here are some blueprints of the duck.

G1B hull blueprint

[safe cedar]

The supposed documents relating to the 57 are à single, vague,, undated, sketch which is regarded as fake.
Char futur is fake to my knowledge.

[onyx raven]

Char Futur

[violet timber]

These supposed blueprints are very questionable to me, as they seem cropped and incomplete

[safe cedar]

Source?

[misty wing]

Why was the AMX 50 chosen over the Somua and Lorraine projects

[solid wolf]

Damn is this being good to math will take you?? These drawings?

[onyx raven]

All of these are supposed to be in French archives

[safe cedar]

it wasn't, none of them were choses due mostly to price and the fact France recieved thousands of free M47s.

[violet timber]

The lack of complete pages hurts the reliability a lot

[onyx raven]

They’re likely cropped for the purpose of focusing on certain things

[solid wolf]

If ever su100y offer pops up on store is it worth it? Same as tog II?

[misty wing]

I want a Somua with a larger turret now 😔

[violet timber]

If you could post a full page, including numbers, names, and dates, that would be much better

[onyx raven]

I can try

[dapper violet]

if its gonna be your first ever premium tank, yes

also derp go bonk

maus sized td

[solid wolf]

So su100y not tog II?

[dapper violet]

both of them are gimmicky and fun

[onyx raven]

Here’s your duck

[safe cedar]

My problem with "duck" is that it wasn't considered by french military.

I mean it's feasible. you should see tank companies somua, it's hideous. Not to mention this abomination.

[misty wing]

What was the history of ARL V39

[safe cedar]

French tank destroyer/assualt tank, moustache man invades development stopped, used as basis for ARL-44 in sekret.

[onyx raven]

Here’s a better quality image of the blueprint

[solid wolf]

I need to choose 1 sadly

[onyx raven]

It was, along with the SAu 40, designed to be an assault gun

[wise moth]

AMX 50 120 hull, Lorraine turret, and the 90mm DCA 45. It’s like AI was told to make up a generic French postwar tank

[safe cedar]

Actually that's the 120mm gun...

[violet timber]

I do kinda hate how WG makes assault tanks into TDs

[onyx raven]

Why? Many were used as such IRL.

[tepid lily]

This image makes me want to puke 🤢 🤮

[wise moth]

O wait you right. It just looks so skinny I got confused lol

[violet timber]

TDs and assault tanks have different roles. TDs are a defensive weapon, assault tanks are more so like heavy tanks

[solid wolf]

Well they are tds what u mean? And if ur saying they should be heavy then its not gonna work imagine fighting a heavium or any tank has turret yea.. no thanks nightmare.

[safe cedar]

Foch was to fulfill the exact same rôle as AMX-50 120. They aren't really truely separate tanks with unique roles.

[onyx raven]

StuG III, Ferdinand…

[solid wolf]

Those assault tds shoud be better support front line heavy on second line

[violet timber]

Early heavy tanks and assault tanks served the same purpose, while TDs were by doctrine a defensive weapon

[onyx raven]

Many assault guns were used as TDs and vice versa. That was my point.

[misty wing]

I wish the AMC CDC went into production

[safe cedar]

Same it was enough to repel me from tank company, along with their fake, garbage AMX-50 surbaissé.

[violet timber]

Early StuGs we’re assault tanks, late StuGs we’re TDs

[misty wing]

@safe cedar what about the Canon d'Assaut 105

[safe cedar]

True, Hellcat was primarily used as an Assualt gun lol.

[solid wolf]

Yea but the game is like.. hmm yea remember theres heaviums in this game. Those are your nightmare if your turretless assault td is designated as a heavy tank. Also most of them are sluggish easy to poke weakzpots

[violet timber]

The in game tank system is pretty messed up

[safe cedar]

Literally AMX-30 without à turret.

[misty wing]

Was it historical though? I can't find anything

[safe cedar]

Yes like Lorraine cda.

[solid wolf]

Sorry its for the better. Tbh wg did a great job because playing a heavy turretless tank, while enemy has fully turret heavies are defeat foreshadow.

[wise moth]

Well, the intended role of the tank is indicated by the name.
StuG just means “assault gun”
Jagdpanzer is “armor hunter”, or TD

[solid wolf]

Then what british tds are?? Are they tds too? Or heavies?

[dapper violet]

assault tanks

[safe cedar]

Well their were also more "Assualtish" version of the Stug like Stiug 33 and Stug.

[solid wolf]

What is that a different tank class?

[tepid lily]

The Canon d’assaut 105 was built or just a blueprint?

[violet timber]

The StuG was named as such because it was made quite early in the war and was actually effective in the assault role. As the war progressed, anti-tank guns became better and more prevalent and so the StuG was used for its mobility as a tank destroyer

[dapper violet]

nope, just another term to describe it
its like a turretless heavy - its just a td

[onyx raven]

Blueprint

[safe cedar]

Blueprint

[wise moth]

Probably made up

[solid wolf]

Tbh i want turtle mk1.

[onyx raven]

No, it’s real.

[dapper violet]

turtle mk 1 isn't too great

[safe cedar]

also the AMX-50, Lorraine 40t, Batchat and AMX-50 120 have their autoloaders modeled incorrectly, yet for some reason souma's isnt.

[tepid lily]

I as well couldn’t find any sort of information on the tank. But it does make sense that they would consider building a tank destroyer on the chassis of the AMX-30. Either for simplifying production in order to produce more tanks for their own military or also for export purposes.

[onyx raven]

It sucks though.

[solid wolf]

Exactly thats why i want it
@onyx raven @dapper violet

[onyx raven]

Why would you want a bad premium?

[solid wolf]

I dunno i liked the turtle mk.1
I love british tanks and probably one of my favorite is the turtle mk.1
I dunno why i like it.

[dapper violet]

don't hurt yourself

never ends well, already tried getting bad tanks

[misty wing]

I wonder what the "realest" nation is
Probably US or USSR

[solid wolf]

Bruuh nah i kinda want this.. I'm not sure why but i want to do it. Hmm maybe this is the way i improve my game.

[dapper violet]

it isn't - the tank doesn't teach anything

[safe cedar]

That's pretty hard, probably the Russians. However the original Japanese line was probably the most real tbh.

[dapper violet]

germany is in the running for least real nation

Hybrid is the least real nation

[solid wolf]

Bruh well like i said . I have no idea why im doing this but ,i dont mind it anyway.

[misty wing]

Germany is pretty real actually. Might be more so than US

[dapper violet]

it has only one real t10

as in non-blueprint

[misty wing]

Maus, E100, Leopard 1.

[dapper violet]

oh wait, yeah

e100 was 50% built

Maus prototype was built

[misty wing]

And blueprint counts as real, if they were drawn up by actual contemporary designers. "Fake" means completely made up by wargaming, like the Annihilator or something

[thorny smelt]

Don't complain and create another again just because you have bad RNG

[safe cedar]

Arguably the E-50 & E-75 were real, because they were simply modifications for mass production.

[solid wolf]

Most of the time i do that when i buy a bundle i dont like. I never delete a account because of tech tree line.

[misty wing]

The fake German tanks I can think of off the top of my head are E75 TS, Jagdpanzer/WT E100, and JPanther II.

[dapper violet]

that's... unhealthy

I only have one account

[solid wolf]

But hey im tired of tanks give you advantage maybe this way will improve my game skills since its harder tank. More knowledge to get @thorny smelt

[safe cedar]

Yeah, generally WG covers their tracks very well.

[misty wing]

Not sure about this one but Krupp 38d seems quite fake as well

[solid wolf]

I have 13 account, dont worry i delete them because just knowing that i dont delete them makes my blood boil and mad.

[dapper violet]

keep them

[wise moth]

E-100 is more real than you think. A team of like 3 guys managed to build the chassis before the British captured it

[thorny smelt]

The hull is the only one that is completed

[dapper violet]

the WT e100 and jagdpanzer e100 isn't

[solid wolf]

No. If that account is done or making me mad its gone despite the progress. Im not afraid to start over again, like im doing it or 13 times😅 @dapper violet

[wise moth]

It’s the E-100 variants that are questionable at best

[dapper violet]

stop for your mental health

when I have a bad run I just close the game and go do something else or ---
switch tanks to a new tank 😄

[misty wing]

I'm aware, it's just the TD variations which are sketchy enough for me to consider fake. Or at least, the rear-turreted jageroo is completely up to WG's interpretation

[safe cedar]

peeps thinking E-100 would have been mass produced

[misty wing]

Wow I literally just typed the same thing

[dapper violet]

ah yes reasonable cost defensive tank
just tape big steel sheets to giant slow chasis

[solid wolf]

This is my only game on my tablet. And besides this game is fun, been playing since post 5.5

[dapper violet]

nooooooo those accounts could get birthday rewards
😨

[safe cedar]

supposedly the E-100s partially built hull is still in a scrap yard as the dude never got around to breaking it down.

[solid wolf]

They're deleted and gone haha . And i don't care to those accounts much better i get rid of them.. 😅

[thorny smelt]

Probably it is ended up as scrap

[balmy compass]

seems pretty neat, but I doubt that would still be put in some museum lol

[solid wolf]

I love british armor , but the thing they've done to e100 is not funny.

[thorny smelt]

They can but it's no use without at least a prototype turret

[balmy compass]

no use without tracks either imo

[violet timber]

Overall the Brit’s have very few fake tanks in the tech tree

[dapper violet]

the entire fv215b 183 line:

[safe cedar]

it's just a massive pile of rust, lol.

[thorny smelt]

Or the planned Maybach HL234 engine that I also wish they would do it as an upgrade for the E 100 in this game.

[violet timber]

Most of them at least have designs drawn up, though I can’t speak as to the numbering

[onyx raven]

Is real

[balmy compass]

please no
E 100 is already overbuffed as it is

[misty wing]

As for the Americans to my knowledge,

• T110E4 and E5 are poor and misnamed interpretations.
• T92E1 was never mounted with Sheridan turret iirc
• T71 is a Frankenstein tank, although split up in PC
• Astron Rex is possibly fake
• T28's model is erroneous
• T28 Prototype is fake to my knowledge
• T25 TD variants seem fake

[violet timber]

The entire T110 thing is a mess

[dapper violet]

I only see the tortoise

[thorny smelt]

LOL A German ramming machine with the top speed of 40 kmph

[onyx raven]

E3 and E5. E4 is fake

[violet timber]

If anything, they would be T110A3, A4, and A5, not E

[onyx raven]

The ATs were all designs that led to the Tortoise

[onyx raven]

If it’s a T, it’ll be an E.

[dapper violet]

I know, but the legitimacy is strange - do you have a link to blueprints

[balmy compass]

I remember reading this very in depth article about how the T25 AT was incredibly fake

[violet timber]

Not necessarily

[onyx raven]

1 sec

[misty wing]

M6A2E1 EXP should be a fake as well

[violet timber]

Actually they did try putting a larger turret on the M6, though I’m not sure if the 120mm was ever considered for that

[blissful hamlet]

It had the prototype turret of the T29, so, 105mm

[balmy compass]

what about the massive thick frontal plate instead of the odd round thing

[misty wing]

Yes the 105mm is real enough, but the 120mm configuration is questionable

[safe cedar]

They already did...

[onyx raven]

That as real too.

[violet timber]

It’s entirely plausible that a 120mm could’ve been tried, though I haven’t seen any evidence of it actually happening

[misty wing]

The Yoh line of course is subject to heavy interpretation from WG, especially in armament

[balmy compass]

me looking at the M-V-Yoh and thinking: "where ammorack?"

[onyx raven]

That’s the only change made to the Yohs. Otherwise, they’re real as seen.

[violet timber]

The Yohs are questionable

[thorny smelt]

Where is it in this game?

[violet timber]

Designs were made, though how detailed said designs were isn’t really known. They were mainly used as a sort of proof of concept for the reserve tracks

[onyx raven]

So a very well-documented set of tanks are “questionable”?

[valid gale]

It’s their interpretation there was prints for a 170 mm e100 project discovered in bombed out factories but the majority of it was destroyed in the destruction it’s speculated it probably would have a jag tiger design rather than all the weight in the rear

[balmy compass]

like yeah, they were documents, but would they actually have been built

[violet timber]

WGs interpretation of said “well documented” tanks is questionable

[misty wing]

AE Phase 1 and Concept 1b are extremely sketchy as well

[safe cedar]

The E-100 develops 1200 horsepower+ in-game. It wouldn't even make half that irl.

[valid gale]

Concept exists albeit it’s just what it is a concept the gun caliber is an odd choice and the unmanned turret design wouldn’t be tested until 20 years later

[onyx raven]

They’re real too…

[dapper violet]

show blueprint links!!!

its so hard to find!

[misty wing]

Yeah I did see the blueprints for Concept

[valid gale]

Ironically enough it had the abrams hull design before abrams was even a thing

[balmy compass]

is the T95E6 real? 💀
you guys are so nerdy, I thought I knew stuff about tanks

[thorny smelt]

Sorry. I'm a little bit confused

@balmy compass Yes. As part of the T95 medium tank series.

[safe cedar]

:/

[misty wing]

The chassis and I think the turret are real, the armament is fake though I think

So the T95E2 in tier 8 is real

[balmy compass]

what
I'm being serious, genuine question here, I always thought most of the tier VIII-X tanks in blitz were fake

[thorny smelt]

Technically, T95E6 is a medium tank with 120 mm gun.

[onyx raven]

Most of them are real ngl

[valid gale]

Yes the E6 is real

[balmy compass]

tell me Lansen C is real

[misty wing]

The AE in game is dramatically different looking from any blueprints I could find. Certainly a fake interpretation

[valid gale]

Shout out to the Us for struggling to develop a tank so badly you get stuck with 90mm m48s for years , ditch every single gun project you have and use a lended version on your tank

[onyx raven]

It’s real

[safe cedar]

It depends on your definition of fake:
completely made up, generally no.
blue prints, yes
Prototypes, sometimes
production model: extremely rare.

[lilac mica]

We live in a simulation so it’s not real

[misty wing]

Only the European lines and Chinese tend to be on the extreme end of fake

[safe cedar]

WG does alot of "mix and match"

[valid gale]

Shout out to the Us for struggling to develop a tank so badly you get stuck with 90mm m48s for years , ditch every single gun project you have and use a lended version on your tank

[balmy compass]

well I always assumed apart from "well known" (Panzer's, Sherman's, T-34's) tanks they weren't put into production, and I saw alot of people say most tanks didn't exist, and you can probably already tell, I don't do much research :|

[safe cedar]

I don't do any research lol

[onyx raven]

Yeah, a lot of people don’t know what they’re talking about lol

[balmy compass]

yet you know nearly everything about French vehicles

[misty wing]

The biggest victim of that mentality is Russia, almost all the high tier Russian tanks are real yet the community complains about more Russian tanks being added and that WG made them up

[balmy compass]

I thought the T-100 LT was fake 💀
I thought LT-432 was fake too until I saw someone post blueprints or documents

[valid gale]

I mean most of them are though for instance they named the 279E as the 279s “prototype” when in reality it was a almost 10 year old project that wasn’t even related to it

[onyx raven]

The LT-432 is arguably fake

[safe cedar]

Because I'm from Saumur and I know/related to some people who worked on such tanks.

[misty wing]

Their naming can be pretty bad but a lot of those tanks had actual prototypes made

[onyx raven]

The T-100 is really Object 795

[safe cedar]

I'm still convinced it's impossible to actually get inside it.

[balmy compass]

I know all of the tanks in the Obj. 268 line are real, but I don't remember seeing anything on the 268 itself anywhere, but I assume there are some blueprints of it somewhere since it's based on one of the pike nosed hulls

[misty wing]

There was a real prototype of the 268 made

[violet timber]

The LT-432 is a very weird take on the object 432

[safe cedar]

Obj 268 actually got incredibly close to production.

[balmy compass]

which hull is it based on, IS-7?

[misty wing]

@balmy compass IS-8/T-10

[violet timber]

IS-8

[blissful hamlet]

IS-8/T-10

[safe cedar]

laughs in object 775

[balmy compass]

well then I'm not surprised
the Russians did make alot of casemates with spare hulls/guns

[misty wing]

The 268 Version 4 is real as well, although no photos of a prototype exist

[blissful hamlet]

Most countries did

[violet timber]

💀

[onyx raven]

Considering it was never built, yeah.

[balmy compass]

not really?
mostly Germany and Russia were the countries that actaully went and built casemated tanks, America did try it out too but not as much, I don't remember any other country (except Sweden) that built more then 2 models of casemates
I'm not talking about blueprints, talking about produced models

[safe cedar]

If stalin has lived longer it would have been almost certainly produced.

[blissful hamlet]

Isn't Object 432 the prototype of the T-64?

[violet timber]

WG also makes the frankly absurd point that the LT-432 was supposed to carry extra troops

[onyx raven]

It was a blueprint only

[misty wing]

This is one of my personal favorites.

[balmy compass]

I saw that, I think it's funny

[safe cedar]

Yeah, not possible.

[violet timber]

Yes, and WG turned it into a light tank

[blissful hamlet]

What about artys?

[thorny smelt]

Uralmash-1/SU-101

[safe cedar]

Supposedly they are going to restore it soon.

[balmy compass]

oh, well, I guess that counts then
I didn't do research on arty tanks before :|
just did a paper on casemated vehicles (mostly SPGs) countries made

[thorny smelt]

Grille

[safe cedar]

Considering how cramped JS-4 is, I can only imagine. I'm not very tall and I could barely get out of it.

[balmy compass]

is there a tier X tank that is completely made up

[onyx raven]

Minotauro

Type 71

[balmy compass]

I thought Type 71 was based off of something

[onyx raven]

Not really

[violet timber]

Mino, Chinese TD, Type, Jageroo, FV215b, Prog, TVP 50/51

[balmy compass]

I thought Jageroo was based off of something WG found but made their own model

[valid gale]

It’s a beefed up stb1 if you knew the history STB spent so much time in development as soon as it was finished the JSDF immediately began work on type 90

[blissful hamlet]

I'm 6'4, so i think i couldn't fit in most soviet tanks

[violet timber]

Not really. No E100 td variants were being considered since the E100 itself was never fully built

[safe cedar]

They played around with geometry tool and type 74

[valid gale]

There was I said earlier there was plans discovered for a 17 cm case mate e100 with differing proposals within bombed factories a lot of important prints were destroyed tank encyclopedia went over it

[safe cedar]

I'm about a solid "foot" shorter

[violet timber]

The only blueprints found were of a 150mm mount

[onyx raven]

TVP and Prog are real and the Jageroo is based in some reality.

[violet timber]

WG has admitted that the Progetto is something they made up and I have found nothing on the TVP 50/51

[misty wing]

60tp and vz55? Vickers?

[onyx raven]

They’ve never said the Prog is fake.

[violet timber]

I completely forgot about the 60TP, Vz isn't in the game yet but yes, and the Vickers is actually somewhat based in reality

[onyx raven]

The Vickers is not based on anything real and the 60TP has some basis from cadet designs in the Warsaw Technical academy.

[misty wing]

VK 90 might be completely made up as well

[violet timber]

They have, and any slight amount of research shows that the Progetto is clearly a fake

[valid gale]

The cadet designs didn’t exist

[onyx raven]

I have found some evidence that it’s based on a late design of the Löwe

[violet timber]

The Vickers design is clearly based on post war british light tanks

[onyx raven]

That isn’t answering my question.

[violet timber]

There wasn't a question there

[night citrus]

👀 i dont see a ?

[onyx raven]

Oh wait. I didn’t send it.

I meant to ask if you could show me the statement.

[night citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/askers-where-who-gif-24612724

[violet timber]

The statement was in a livestream

They made up the prog based on a book written by an Italian General in 1946 which outlined what he believed the future Italian armor should look like

[onyx raven]

That’s the Progetto 46.

[violet timber]

The same goes for the Prog 65

[safe cedar]

WG themselves said it was made up...

[violet timber]

"The Progetto 65 is based off a vehicle described and drawn by agent Guido Gianettini in an article from an Italian specialized defence magazine, perhaps based off information he gained as a secret agent. He proposed spaced armour, a gun of intermediate calibre between 105mm to 120mm, and a carousel autoloader. The tank was never considered by the Italian military." From WGs website

[thorny smelt]

Ehhhh... that's from WG. Any other reliable source?

[violet timber]

There quite literally isn't another source because WG made it up

[night citrus]

kek

[onyx raven]

Here’s the image from the Magazine

[night citrus]

"The Progetto M40 mod. 65 is an Italian tier 10 medium tank.

In 1969, the Italian military delegation visited Germany to discuss the purchase of Leopard tanks. However, not all members of the delegation agreed with the acquisition of foreign vehicles. The Italian military experts and engineers specified the main requirements for the future tank: the slope angle of armor plates, the cast turret and gun mantlet, as well as the powerful engine from Mitsubishi that allowed production of a small, light, maneuverable, but perfectly-armored vehicle. The British and Soviet design plans collected by SIFAR-SID were taken into account. Development of the project was discontinued at the drafting and modelling stage.

The Progetto M40 mod. 65 marks the end of its Italian medium line."

[onyx raven]

Alright then. Still, it is an odd parallel.

[narrow void]

What about the vk 45.02 b

[onyx raven]

Real

[narrow void]

Hmm okay

[safe cedar]

well yes, it is an excellent forgery, infact I dare say it is a more practical design than the actual german super heavies.

[onyx raven]

No, I mean it parallels an actual design

[night citrus]

you know its partially real when the explanation is quite lengthy

[safe cedar]

That being?

[violet timber]

WG does make some rather convincing fake tanks

[onyx raven]

A later 90-ton design for the Löwe

[narrow void]

Most of that is comparing it to in-game stats, but yeah, I agree it’s real

[violet timber]

Well the issue is it’s called the VK75 on pc

[safe cedar]

AMX m4 54 is probably one of their best fakes imo, as it is legitimately possible, even likely it would have exsists at some point had the tcb turret been made.

[thorny smelt]

Just a variant of the Porsche version of Tiger II

[blissful hamlet]

I think the FV301 was a real prototype, wasn't it?

[night citrus]

and it sucks really badly too, can never hit anything

[violet timber]

Yes

[narrow void]

I see, thanks

[onyx raven]

Nearly built, but it wasn’t.

[night citrus]

kek

owait nvm, theres more

[safe cedar]

It was, only it was called vickers cruiser mk.1, and later the vickers mbt./mk.1

[violet timber]

The Vickers MBT would actually fit in game, at least the early models

[blissful hamlet]

There was two prototypes of it and many variants

[onyx raven]

No. The FV 301 and Vickers Medium Cruiser were similar but ultimately different projects that were never built. The photos you’ll often see referred to as a prototype of the MC Mk.1 were actually just of a Full-Scale Mock-up.

[onyx raven]

No, no prototypes were built. However, many variants were proposed.

[safe cedar]

I was referring to the vickers mbt, lol not the wooden mock-up.

[blissful hamlet]

The FV300 had two prototypes

[onyx raven]

No, no FV 300-series prototypes were built.

[safe cedar]

It could, but it would be kinda difficult to make it interesting.

[blissful hamlet]

Give an proof then.

[blissful hamlet]

I think the Bernardini X1 series of lts would have a slight chance of being added, slight

[violet timber]

True, but using something like the Mk3 with a 120mm could be kind of interesting

[safe cedar]

I would Honestly just add the mk.3 for athesthic reasons.

[onyx raven]

Give me proof they were built.

[violet timber]

It just looks so good, even if the armor isn’t actually as good as it looks

[safe cedar]

So what if the armour isn't good? Just sprinkle alittle Wargaming balance magic on it.
(50b getting its hull armour tripled and turret armour doubled, 30b getting its mantle thickness improved 6 fold)

[violet timber]

Honestly making it something like a tier 9 chieftain would be nice

[blissful hamlet]

For that you have the chief proto

[safe cedar]

nah, I would give it an extremely powerful engine to make up for the low top speed and a super entertaining/interesting gun to boot.

Make it go 50kph, but with dracula acceleration lol

[violet timber]

Chief proto doesn’t look anywhere near as good

[blissful hamlet]

Well, it's a prototype, so, appearance isn't guaranteed to be good

[safe cedar]

The mk.3 isn't a prototype?

[violet timber]

I love how the chieftain look, but the proto is so deformed I just can’t like it

[blissful hamlet]

I mean the chief prototype, not the Vick MBT

[safe cedar]

British tanks In general look way better irl. Fv4004 actually looks sick irl.

[violet timber]

Well the Mk.3(I) got a new engine and gearbox, allowing it to get up to 59kph

There’s also the Mk. 3 (M)

[safe cedar]

Ooh.
Btw how would you feel about say a Fv4004 RAAC? Or a cheiftan without side skirts.

[balmy compass]

why would you remove skirts
they make tanks look cooler

[violet timber]

A 4004 RAAC would be kinda interesting

Also chief without the side skirts is cursed

[violet timber]

The issue with the Mk.3 (M) is that it has ERA, meaning WG won’t add it

[blissful hamlet]

It's always interesting to see how engineers make a heavy thing go way faster than it should, like the IS-7, or the Iowas

[violet timber]

What in gods name is that monstrosity

[balmy compass]

if WG adds a Chieftain without skirts, WG would just make a legendary camo that has skirts

[blissful hamlet]

Skoda T56 moment

[violet timber]

E4 camo

[balmy compass]

BatChat runner and Rhm Waffle got skirts too

[safe cedar]

140mm cheiftan

[blissful hamlet]

Talking about E4, i didn't remember its Combat Star camo had the Snoopy

[violet timber]

That’s… brilliant

[safe cedar]

imo, cheiftan just looks better without the sideskirts.

[violet timber]

I hate that so much

[balmy compass]

please no 💀
give the skirts back

[blissful hamlet]

Give it ARL-esc skirts

[violet timber]

I also love the look of stillbrew chiefs

[violet timber]

Ew

[blissful hamlet]

Conqueror looks rather weird without its skirts

[violet timber]

Conq is such a good looking tank though

[blissful hamlet]

There are suspension types that don't deserve to be used without skirts, like Maus

[safe cedar]

Arl doesn't have side skirts?

[balmy compass]

I can't find anything regarding about the Lansen C irl 😢

[safe cedar]

Yeah, maus without side skirts is just wrong.

[eager python]

Its mid

[violet timber]

In terms of the looks of the last heavy tanks, imo it goes Conq > 50 super bias > T-10 > M103

[blissful hamlet]

I mean that weird plate covering the track's empty space

[eager python]

Bro m103 doesn't look that good

[violet timber]

That’s why it’s in last 💀

I love the M103 a lot, but god does it look terrible compared to the other heavies

[eager python]

I'd say look wise best looking tank is Japanese tier 10 ht I forgot the name

[safe cedar]

50 super bias?

[blissful hamlet]

Thing is that its skirts are part of the suspension's structure, isn't it?

[balmy compass]

bruh
STB looks better then Type 71

[eager python]

It's all personal opinion

[violet timber]

Surbaisse, aka super bias in war Thunder

[safe cedar]

No, the side skirts are literally part of the hull armour, they aren't separate.

[balmy compass]

yeah lol
even in-game you can penetrate main armor through the tracks

[blissful hamlet]

50b is seggsy

[balmy compass]

😐

[safe cedar]

warthunder refusing to give it back it's reverse speed and apcr round

[blissful hamlet]

• the provence camo simply looks too good in french tanks with pbr

[violet timber]

Shhhhh, the 120 still slaps

[safe cedar]

50 go brrrt

[night citrus]

look at that beast 👀

[blissful hamlet]

Tbf french did many great looking designs, like the Lerclerc, the Richelieu, the FT17

[violet timber]

now give it ERA

[balmy compass]

that looks better irl then in-game

[safe cedar]

when you see tiger II then you see this monster it gives a sense of scale tbh.

[balmy compass]

wait ARL actaully used the bigger turret irl? :|

[eager python]

Seggsy to he😃

[eager python]

Amx were really popular tanks I hear

[blissful hamlet]

Wdym with bigger turret?
The stock turret of blitz ARL is from WW1 design,

[balmy compass]

stock turret

[onyx raven]

No

[safe cedar]

No

[balmy compass]

time to get nerded on :|

[safe cedar]

?

[eager python]

Irl amx tanks were sold to many countries I think back in the days

[safe cedar]

All French autoloaders actually can be loaded like single shots with the shells in the back of the turret excluding AMX-13 and AMX-50.

[onyx raven]

Only the AMX-13

[eager python]

I don't know the model but it was amx

[night citrus]

bruh I still cant get used to how the arl is bout the same size as the amx 50b

[safe cedar]

ARL is huge, it's actually abit bigger

[night citrus]

that just brings up the point... who and how and why did they build the arl44 to be that large?

[safe cedar]

Honestly they just wanted to build something as fast as possible to try and regain Frances position as a world power.

[onyx raven]

(They failed)

[night citrus]

I mean... it does fit the phrase "bigger is better"

[eager python]

Bigger is beggar

[safe cedar]

Yes

[balmy compass]

is 50b taller then the Maus

[blissful hamlet]

Not sure

[safe cedar]

It's not

[night citrus]

I don't think so, but im sure since WT is "historically accurate" a size comparison there may work

[balmy compass]

is it close

[safe cedar]

No

[night citrus]

better question, is the arl44 bigger than the maus

[balmy compass]

doubtful

[safe cedar]

However the AMX-50 120 is taller than maus

[night citrus]

HUH

[balmy compass]

interesting

[blissful hamlet]

The 4005 is prob taller than Maus by a little bit

[night citrus]

french crews in 50 120... huh? rock where

[safe cedar]

Yes this variant is freakishly tall.

[blissful hamlet]

With that huge cupola, I think I would fit inside the turret

[safe cedar]

You would, remember AMX-50 was made for swedes and Germans to also use.

[onyx raven]

I don’t think it was

[safe cedar]

The plan was to export it, Germany refused to buy it and that killed the project.

[onyx raven]

Source on that?

[valid gale]

The Amx 50 series was ultimately supposed to be an export tank for Europe but it didn’t really entice the Germans hence 30B

[safe cedar]

You can find the swedish report in it.

[lyric copper]

@safe cedar you know what i find funny?

the AMX30B's HEAT shell IS the Obus-G

[safe cedar]

which is a massive insult tbh.
one of the best heat shells has slightly below average heat pen just as in insult. It should have had a symbolic 305mm imo.

[lyric copper]

personally would give it 320 HEAT, and also give the Leo 1 320 HEAT

[safe cedar]

Honestly leopard shouldn't have heat, it should have a premium apcr shells imo.

[vale kraken]

I have a question which tank is generally more useful the 60tp or maus

[lyric copper]

nah, imo 270 AP, 320 HEAT

with lowered DPM once it gets 380/320/450 alpha

[valid gale]

Bad change

[vale kraken]

Oh wait this is vehicles discussion not wot blitz vehicles

[plucky summit]

I mean, you can talk about Blitz vehicles

[valid gale]

Nah dpm should stay the same just adjust the RoF and alpha

[vale kraken]

Oh k

[lyric copper]

still no, the main reason for me wanting the DPM to be lowered after a pen and alpha buff is to

1: It won't be as easy to abuse for good players, and offers a different playstyle
2: The AMX 30B will still be kinda... trash?
2a: You could then turn the 30B into the DPM monster

[vale kraken]

?

[lyric copper]

60TP, Maus has not been relevant since 2020

[vale kraken]

Oh that's good cuz i was going for the 60tp but saw the maus had more hull armor

[safe cedar]

I would give it 265+ ap, 310-330 apcr.

[wise moth]

Or…. You could just turn 30 B into a DPM monster right now with like 3900 DPM, strip away the turret armor, and nerf the accuracy slightly more. Make it the “close combat” version of the Leo

[valid gale]

That’s kinda the point leopard suffers from penetration 30 B gets the luxury of hard angles and safer peeking something that if leopard had would make it broken

[lyric copper]

except even with this theoretical Leo 1, people still yolo through it anyways

and half the time it cant it back

[safe cedar]

That would screw it over tbh. The accuracy is already mid.

I would rather 30b get 66/46 top speeds.

[lyric copper]

imo that doesnt address a key issue for the 30B in the fact that its a half-hearted in-between of the Leo 1 and STB, and personally my solution would be to change the Leo 1 to above, and change the 30B into a DPM monster, who knows, maybe the 3.9k DPM suggested by Posit1ve would be a good idea

[safe cedar]

I think 30b should just be removed from the leopard-STB scale entirely.

[lyric copper]

its just unavoidable because the Leo and 30B come from the same thinkbox

I also really feel like they should actually give the 30B a distinct role

[safe cedar]

30b has some clear differences, WG should emphasize its insane reverse speed.
honestly if it just had a good heat round and better mobility it wouldn't need anything else really.

[lyric copper]

tanks shouldnt be balanced around their prammo

[safe cedar]

Prammo is just one part of a tank. Look at Fv4202 or ho-ri

[stiff cedar]

But like in how many days or month

[thick trout]

It has a distinct role, it's just one that most people are not good enough to use or see, so they default to the playstyles of the 30b and Leo because it has some similar characteristics

[plucky summit]

We don’t know

[stiff cedar]

😩 I’ll wait

[safe cedar]

People just assume because asthetics they are the same even though 30b is a proper scout and leopard à sniper. Don't know why 30b has 295 vs 300 heat pen, but It doesn't matter tbh.
I only wish 30b had better top + reverse speed for fun reasons.

[steady cliff]

maus

[river hollow]

@lucid idol FYI the su-5 could mount a 76, a 122 and a 152.

[thorny smelt]

AMX 30 needs some loving

[lucid idol]

well i don't say it could only hold 5mm

[uneven ice]

should i get progetto 46?

i got 8.6k gold and idk whether i should get progetto 46 or save up for tier 10 premium

[wheat flower]

If you know how to play it then go for it

[uneven ice]

k

[wise parcel]

how do I exactly find a good place to camp as TDs?

[robust drift]

Behind a bush

[fast compass]

Just experiment with different spots. When playing other classes, note the locations where tds are and see if they work. But remember, just because you are a triangle doesn't mean that you should sit in one position at the back of the map the whole game

[dark schooner]

Can I ask how good the t95 is compared to the t28?

[misty wing]

a lot better

[dark schooner]

because tbh I'm kind of tired of leaving my life in the hands of my meds/hevs, especially on weekends

[onyx raven]

Depends on the TD and map.

[tulip knot]

Wdym the Leo has good pen for a med

[dark schooner]

loving trying to play the t28 when all the bad heavy players are on

weekend matchmaking is a blast

[solid gate]

What country has the best tank destroyers?

[misty wing]

T-10M slaps imo
Unfortunately the non-PBR model in blitz looks horrendously ugly

[tulip knot]

Don’t listen to the haters. you’re correct

[misty wing]

It does. So do several tanks in game like Strv K imo, then the legendary camo ruins it by adding side skirts

[solid gate]

what if they added normal armed cars or tanks with machine guns?

[valid gale]

No

[misty wing]

No

[potent garnet]

honestly germany jag line
just a nice all rounded line

[silent nymph]

hello i have a question how to use the full capabilities of the löwe premium tank?

[wise parcel]

Well idk, I'm currently playing as T25 AT and I can't even recognize what a good camp spot is

[minor canyon]

Get ur team to push with you. Löwe has a good damage and a wonderful front armor but it has weak sides and back and isnt fast you wont stand long alone. Due to the front position of the turret you can back angle in city maps and it works fairly good

[flat aspen]

anyone tips for leo 1?
i recently got it and it isnt going well lol

1. i die fast
   2.or average camping/passive battle, 1.5k-2k dmg

i am used to play with t62a with 3k and now i cant play with the leo 1 😭 and it's such a fun tank

[night citrus]

t62a is easy tho, u have turret armor and hull armor, leo 1 is you have no armor, just speed and gun

[flat aspen]

i thought i was a skilled player doing well in my t62a, now i see how much i suck, for some reason it's very hard for me doing 3k dmg and much easier with the 62a

[night citrus]

I mean if you want to challenge yourself while still having like the 62a, try playing the obj 140

[flat aspen]

im already happy with my leo (the gun and dpm is amazing), need just some advice

@pale mauve maybe u can help me?

[night citrus]

its really dependent on the scenario and matchup

if alone, play defensive, if you find an opportunity, take it
try to snap a shot at everything, if you know you can hit, chances are, you will hit

[pale mauve]

Snipe

[nova jackal]

Which should i get?

[pale mauve]

Dont go brawl in Leo 1

[wheat cloud]

none

[thorny smelt]

None.

[shrewd turret]

none

[night citrus]

none

[misty wing]

@wise moth you're famous

[wise moth]

😎

[onyx raven]

Neither. Tier V premiums are never worth it.

[supple glen]

Ok what the hell js #france_vehicles

[lyric copper]

french tanks

[warm umbra]

I feel that emil 1 stock is one of the most painful.

[frigid laurel]

i got him

[safe cedar]

@tulip knot

#NoSideSkirtGang

[safe cedar]

How... much did you spend on AMX-30?

[wise moth]

30k gold

It's kinda fun tho

[tepid lily]

Ayo that’s so much for an average performing medium tank

[misty wing]

I wanna buy FCM 50T whenever it hits the shop

[tepid lily]

Save yourself from the pain

And save your gold as well, it’s going to be a painful tank to play

[wise moth]

It's my highest performing tier 8 med rn lol

[misty wing]

I think mine is astron rex

[wise moth]

AP AMX 30 is seriously underrated rn. Fast, -10 gun depression, and actually pretty decent armor

[tepid lily]

Worth the price or should I wait until the second release?

[misty wing]

I'm saving for the 777 II personally

[balmy compass]

So
Lansen C but French

[wise moth]

Probably not at the current price point, but it's honestly a great tank

[misty wing]

Unfortunately it's so ugly 😔

[tepid lily]

I would say it’s unique and not like other mediums

Mainly because of the incredibly high standard penetration and usable armor

[balmy compass]

It seems to me like a M4 Rev but trades firepower for armor
Or French Lansen

[wise moth]

The hull looks sweet, but the turret is such a sore spot

[onyx raven]

#quirky
#notlikeothertanks

[balmy compass]

What is the standard pen

[wise moth]

I'm streaming it in general chat if y'all wanna see it

[misty wing]

218

[wise moth]

218/262

[balmy compass]

That’s pretty nice

[safe cedar]

chokes on cigarette

[misty wing]

@safe cedar what do you think of the AMX 50 100 Basher camo

[safe cedar]

It makes me want to bash my brains out

[misty wing]

Ouch

[daring merlin]

Amaunet said it was very much like a tier 8 Amx 30 prot

[wheat cloud]

chokes on le gauloise

[lilac mica]

Cassoulet

[safe cedar]

How did you know?

[plucky summit]

AMX Armor Piercing

[wheat cloud]

le french

[granite rivet]

Batignolles-Châtillon 25T Armour Piercing

[frank pecan]

M1937, 122mm, hence "37-122". This gun is used by China and is actually the base design for the D-25T (like a lot of Soviet late-war tank guns, they're all vehicle-mounted versions of existing artillery). However Chinese IS-2s are the same as the Soviet ones and they never change the gun.

[onyx raven]

Dude, that message was nearly 3 years old

[wheat cloud]

it was 😳 the dedication

[dark schooner]

9 battles in and I don’t even have the big alpha gun, this tank is cracked

[granite rivet]

🤓

[dark schooner]

Funny guy

[brave juniper]

Isn't that just amx 30 1er but worse?

[misty wing]

30 1er (an extremely overrated tank, fight me) is a tier higher. AltProto also has better alpha and pen tier for tier, and I believe a more troll hull as well

[hollow notch]

Nah, love the 301er.
It might be lacking in dpm, but it can use its gun the entire time. It has speed and gun depression to get into annoying positions quickly and it has the turret armor, gun depression, and acceleration to peek with relative safety.

What are you gonna do, push it? Nah, it's already zooming away

Beautiful tank for harassing enemies

[brave juniper]

And even if it doesn't seem like it the front plate does occasionally bounce if you use ur gun dep and saves your life, or during movement

[hollow notch]

Gotta love stupidly angled plates on a flat tank

[brave juniper]

Like I've won matches because they shot apcr/heat, pramo at my tank thinking it's gonna be end game and poof, magically bounced it

[brave juniper]

Yeah, like even with 3CR in effect it sometimes gets these illogical bounces

[hollow notch]

I get that people want firepower to brute force fights quickly, but the 301er is perfect for extended fights drawing attention.

[brave juniper]

Indeed, it's a good tank to bait shots, like a perfect paper made tank that will cut you if you try to touch it

And just to reply to you, honestly like I said, it's the same tank on paper but worse, don't mention anything about wr since as you can see one has 961 players(90 days) and the other has testers only(90day period so probably when the tank was better before release).

@misty wing tier for tier amx 30 alt proto isn't that better off also, since quite a few tanks below it and on the same tier have a higher alpha with a similar dpm and better pen

T8-5 meds just aren't that different/good overall

[misty wing]

I think I'd rather play any tier 8 med than the 30 1er ngl
tbh I don't understand why you're so obsessed with comparing the altproto to a tank of a different tier, and they don't even look that similar despite both being AMX 30s supposedly

and tier for tier the AP is much better than the 30 1er when it comes to the gun. The alpha and penetration are both strong points, whereas the 30 1er has both lowest in class DPM and alpha for a single shot med, which is just unacceptable. It also lacks premium pen compared to everything except the M46 and HESH Centurion. The chassis does not make up for these shortcomings, especially when the mobility is only marginally better than other meds, so it really only has gun depression and a trollish turret going for it

Like, the rest of the tier 9 meds have an average eHP/T on medium terrain of 18.9, and the 30 1er has only 21.7. It needs to have a much larger advantage than that in order to make the argument that the platform makes up for the abysmal gun.

On the other hand the AMX 30b at tier 10 has 32.7 p/w on medium compared to the rest's average of 25.8. This is a much larger gap than the 30 1er to its own competition.

yet people always lament about the 30b being weak while praising the 30 1er like it's god's gift to earth

[violet timber]

The only reason people like the 1er more is the almost complete lack of a cupola compared to what the 30b has

[misty wing]

The 30b does have about twice the DPM deficit compared to other single shot guns than the 30 1er has, however, I still think the 30b gun is better tier for tier because it meets the par for accuracy and premium penetration, unlike the 1er which has shockingly poor accuracy for a 310 alpha

[copper swan]

turret armour on amx 30 1st prototype? more like mantlet armour on amx 30 1st prototype

[muted sandal]

Opinions on the WZ-122 TM? On paper is a good tank, but I've got already T-34-3, Chimera and Sherman M4A1 Rev. The play style should be the same, but it is worth 8500 gold or should I spare that amount for another tank?

[zinc finch]

budget chimera they said

front armor is good, side very weak even against 90mm, slow reload. idk about gun handling though.

[blissful hamlet]

It's a good tank if you're bored of the Chimera dominating things

[safe cedar]

Your forgetting due to lower hp/t 30 1er's effective gun handling is actually better than 30b, It can snap shots on the move very well.

Furthermore the dpm gap is much , much small. The highest dpm tier IX med only having like 200-300 more dpm vs leopard 1 out-dpming 30b with heat.

[atomic vault]

Visited tank museum in Kubinka today. Damn, now I want this tank (obj. 770) to be in wotb, it’s so freaking magnificent😵‍💫

[wise parcel]

which p2 vitality equipment is better for t25 AT - more HP or more armor?

[lyric copper]

what is essentially the Obj.770 is coming soon

The Obj. 777 II

[safe cedar]

I prefer the obj 277.

[thorny smelt]

This one?

[safe cedar]

Yes

[somber widget]

guys, obj 252u, type 57 or t56?

[violet timber]

T56 > Type > 252

[wise moth]

Skoda > 252 > Type

[daring merlin]

Type-T56-252U

[onyx raven]

Always run more HP

[misty wing]

I already acknowledged the 30b having roughly double the DPM gap compared to its peers, but it's still easily the better tank tier for tier. That and the cupola are the only disadvantages it has

[somber widget]

I got the type 57 and have 4k average damage so far

[smoky arrow]

how much is the bc 25t runner?

[misty wing]

Think it's 6500 unfortunately

[soft ether]

i have a question, what abilities do obj 268/4 and badger have in mad games?

[soft ether]

thanks

[solid gate]

How much does the high score tank sell for?

[frigid laurel]

250 gold

[dark schooner]

Rate my lansen gameplay

[wheat cloud]

C tier

[onyx raven]

I’d rate it 4/10 for this match

[balmy compass]

Pretty good 8/10 from me
Your positioning at the beginning at the A point was alright, but you definitely took the opportunity to create crossfires once you went mid, great job

Although I will say you could have used adrenaline several times, as you never used it the whole match

[dark schooner]

True, I’m not good at using adrenaline at all because almost every time I do wind up using it in a non premium I get like no money from the round

[dark schooner]

Mfw my heavies go town

But tbh I would’ve done a lot better that round of I didn’t have to deal with your whole team on hill

[onyx raven]

The funny part was that I’d just watched the replay you posted here before that match, and I was really tempted to say something in chat.

[tulip knot]

t10 30b is crap though. its just a leo that has a bit more armor in exchange for worse everything else

[remote cloud]

is ammo rack damage also rng? Like on top of the 33% chance of damaging it is there +- 25% damage roll as well?

[violet timber]

27% base chance to damage the ammo rack, then it's subjected to the normal module damage system

[frail dagger]

No? Armour is better on a good chunk of tanks, mostly heavies and tds, even some mediums

[remote cloud]

Right yes, but is module damage random or is it exactly the same damage every time if it hits?

[violet timber]

It is random

[violet timber]

HP is better on the majority of tanks

[remote cloud]

Thank you sire

[frail dagger]

With extra armour say, on the Minotauro or the Cent 5/1, i have a slight higher chance to bounce a shot from say, a Obj84, and that extra bounce is worth 300 hp compared to the 85 health ill get from extra HP, worth it if you know what your doing

[foggy fox]

Is that Russian Churchill 3 worth a buy for those 1500 gold ?

[wheat cloud]

Never. Keep your gold for tier 8 or further

[hidden grove]

What does this symbol mean and how do you get it?

[tender prism]

badger or 268v4?

[wheat cloud]

its ranks. it has no effect whatsoever other than showing you have played your elite 100% crewed tank (often premiums) a lot. You can find it in the tech tab of any relevant vehicle

[hidden grove]

I have a 100% crew IS tank and i dont see any rank icon

[thorny smelt]

FV217 Badger

[thin imp]

Rank

[wheat cloud]

You need elite status too, with the next tank researched

[thin imp]

Ranks useless I don’t even know why they got added

[wheat cloud]

for people who basically cant use credit furthers because theyve grund the entire tree

[hidden grove]

Thanks

[last folio]

guys t29 is nerfed?😂 it cant avoid so many shells n players always boomin my tank😂

[solid wolf]

Sad i didnt finish the event because of school. Oh well, hi guys is the su100y offers pops in store?

[violet timber]

Both of those tanks have so much armor that running EA on them has no substantial buff. Running it because you may encounter one tank of a different tier just isn’t worth it.

[hidden grove]

Is it worth selling this for 1200 gold? Or should i keep it (if yes then for what?)

[kindred wren]

You can restore it if you want it back after you sold it. Costs exactly as much as selling it gets, so you don‘t lose anything

Given that and the fact that tier three is super boring, I‘d say you can sell it without worrying. Unless you really enjoy playing the tank

[hidden grove]

Got it, just a quick question: what is the elite battle exp for? I dont fully understand its use

[kindred wren]

You can use it for crew skills, or if you pay gold you can convert it to free xp (not recommended)

Basically use it to boost crew skills, that‘s the best use

[hidden grove]

Ok now i understand, last question: will the exp on that tier 3 disappear if i sell it? (I guess yes?)

[kindred wren]

No, it remains (just like the stats)

[hidden grove]

[broken thistle]

Obj or Badger

[violet timber]

Badger

[onyx raven]

Badger is better

The 268/4 is extremely overrated

[wise parcel]

any advice for rating battles? already lost 5/10 of my cali matches, yet I still don't have an idea how players play at that mode

[ocean goblet]

When the 59 patton and wz 122 tm offer will go out of store ?

[solid wolf]

Guys is su100y offers worth? ( i want the the tank)

[onyx raven]

It’s literally the same as a normal match, you just get a funny number on your profile. Get good.

[near hamlet]

guys what do you think about this

[violet timber]

Eh, one tank is good and one is terrible

[near hamlet]

lmao i suppose the amx is the terrible one ?

[violet timber]

Yes, the Somua is bad

[onyx raven]

The SOMUA is awful but the Spaghetto is great

[near hamlet]

🤣🤣🤣

[safe cedar]

I would disagree

Souma has good armour and great mobility which make up for its lacklustre gun. Even then the gun is only really bad in its handling, the dispersion is typical of the tier and the guns raw characteristics (vélocité, pen, shell drop off, alpha) are all great.

[violet timber]

It has a massive cupola. That coupled with its massive bloom that forces it to sit still to aim makes it’s armor kind of worthless. It also has a massive clip reload

[safe cedar]

The bloom is similar to virtually every other tanks of the tier.

[violet timber]

But it also accelerates relatively fast, which increases the bloom, and has poor aim time, meaning it has to sit still longer. That combined with the size of the cupola lead to a rather weak armor profile in practice

[hidden grove]

is Maus or E100 better?

[violet timber]

E100

[thin imp]

E3 E4 or E5

[violet timber]

E5 > E4 > E3

[thin imp]

Best tier 10 in your opinion

[supple hearth]

All of them

[median snow]

e4 better in new update

[glass tusk]

Hello would u give me some tips for my 4 new tanks ?

[muted sandal]

It is finally MINE (a good use for the 5k gold lucky ball of the previous event)

[thorny smelt]

VK 90.01 (P) is like the proper successor of VK 45.02 (P) B. You can sidescrape with it unlike VK 72.01 (K).

[misty wing]

Nah

[onyx raven]

Wait until he learns that the v4 is an overhyped trash heap

[muted sandal]

@misty wing @onyx raven whatever, I'll enjoy playing it anyway, regardless of its effectiveness, which is not the average in any case. For me it was a free tank (well, I just sold AMX 30 B, I rarely use it)

[umbral moat]

T28 prototype is the worst destoyer in the game. discuss.

im very much regretting going the american destroyer route. Should have gone Russia or Britain.

[undone star]

Its getting an armor buff and velocity buff on 10.0 so it wont be that bad after that

[wise moth]

Honestly, right now you’re not wrong, but it is getting a buff in 10.0 PC (mobility/side armor/HP), but the T30 and E4 are pretty nice

[umbral moat]

i would deal with the lack of armor if it only moved a little faster.

[misty wing]

E3 is better than E4 for winning, but E4 is more fun

[wise moth]

Based

[balmy compass]

We all know you’re biased towards the E4

[violet timber]

E4 is quite good right now, and is becoming possibly meta next update

[balmy compass]

Meta TD?!
Impossible

[violet timber]

Well a few TDs are actually quite close right now

[wise moth]

*meta heavy

For all intents and purposes, WG is making it into a heavy

[balmy compass]

Without HP sure

[violet timber]

Well it’ll have 2.1k with assembly, and then you give it a ton of dpm on top to compensate

[wise moth]

*With HP. It’s getting like some nonsense 300 or 400 HP buff

Literally just a heavy tank with a triangle icon

[balmy compass]

That’s still like 300 short

It’s going to be the same as the Jag right?

[misty wing]

Jag has more I think

[balmy compass]

By how much? 150?

[violet timber]

Jag will have 150 more base, but it will lack the dpm and more importantly, the turret

[balmy compass]

Yay
Another TD that doesn’t have a horrendous HP pool

[violet timber]

The funniest part to me is the mobility buff

[misty wing]

I actually really dislike the E4 changes, it's headed deeper into "worse E100" territory

And they didn't touch the 3 things I dislike most about the tank

[balmy compass]

I thought it was funny that they decided to buff the cupola
Ig I need to spam HEAT at it in my Kpz 70 now

[ocean goblet]

Is the CS-52 a good tank ?

[violet timber]

Yes

[misty wing]

What is the "turret's barbette" of the E4 that is getting buffed

[gaunt grail]

VK 90.01 (P) or FV217?

[violet timber]

The turret ring

[misty wing]

you can most likely still pen it in the lower half with standard on most tanks

yeah 187mm at that angle is gonna be like 220-230mm

[misty wing]

?

[granite rivet]

It might be close to 300

[misty wing]

I said the lower half lol

[granite rivet]

It’s almost the same...

[misty wing]

It won't be close to 300

With this shape on the cupola, the lower half is clearly much weaker

Also I still can't get over how genuinely awful wotinspector is compared to PC sites that are free

[granite rivet]

Looks like the wot pc model to me

[misty wing]

If the blitz model isn't the same right now, it will be when it eventually gets PBR

I'm not very concerned with the cupola becoming strong, frankly

[granite rivet]

I think the blitz one is weaker towards the centre because it angles inwards more

T110e4 has tons of weak spots anyway

[safe cedar]

Thats the point. Keep the weaknesses, remove the main strength.

[misty wing]

what? that would equate to a nerf, and this is clearly not that

[safe cedar]

They replace major strengths for new ones.

Penetration and accuracy vs armour + hp

[late spoke]

it has such a big and weak cupola

[misty wing]

that one's actually not one of the 3 things

[late spoke]

okay and it’s something for me

[gaunt grail]

VK 90.01 (P) or FV217?

[misty wing]

then you're playing the tank wrong

which honestly might not be your fault, given my comment on the CCs

[safe cedar]

Let me guess. Turret turning factor, gun depression, and reverse speed?

[misty wing]

gun depression and reverse speed yes
the 3rd one is lack of PBR >:)

[safe cedar]

Honestly if WG had toned down the dispersion Nerf it would have been fine tbh.

[late spoke]

yeah reverse speed is really wack.

[misty wing]

imo it should've gotten 14 reverse speed, 7.5 degrees of gun depression, and 680 alpha with a sizeable DPM nerf (0.5 seconds slower than E3 reload) instead of all this armor nonsense

[late spoke]

the 640 alpha low rolls too much imo

i keep seeing 53_ or 550~ in the e4, and also upwards of 750.

[late spoke]

well, i think it is my fault because i just play frontline TD
It’s more fun and get more damage out
Medium risk high reward

[safe cedar]

I would have taken a different route.

[misty wing]

I'm normally against buffing weaknesses, but the E4 should be an all rounder with flexibility, as opposed to an extremist like the grille, nor is it supposed to be a pseudoheavy

[safe cedar]

What do you mean by "weaknesses"?

[misty wing]

the reverse speed, gun depression and cupola armor in this case

the tank has no business being a DPM monster imo, that should be left to tanks like Badger

I'm also a big proponent of tanks that are supposed to have the same gun, actually having the same gun
sadly they've moved away from that recently

[safe cedar]

I would have made it so the gun depression was better on the sides, but worse on the front. I would have also increased the shell velocity, and forward dispersion modifier.

[misty wing]

and when they did follow that philosophy, it resulted in the AMX M4 45 being inadvertently nerfed

[safe cedar]

They tossed out that philosophy a long time ago.

[granite rivet]

Sometimes they change the name of the gun, for example the T110E3’s gun used to be the T7 and now it’s the T7A that has higher damage

[misty wing]

Yeah unfortunate, I really liked that you could "feel" the overlap in tank development through the sharing of guns, and look at the guy next to you and be like "hey, we're like half the same" and unfortunately that's never the case anymore

[safe cedar]

Well all (well most) of the western 120mm are still pretty similar.

[misty wing]

not even the M62-T2 (probably my favorite looking gun tbh) is consistent anymore

[safe cedar]

Well it is fairly consistent

[misty wing]

at least they're making the french one consistent too by bringing down the AMX 50 120 alpha :)

[safe cedar]

Wouldn't that be making it less consistent? Since it's the same gun as on the m103?

[misty wing]

Consistent with the 50b though, which actually has the same gun

[safe cedar]

Yes, but the 120mm l/60 (T122) is the same gun across the board Regardless of national designation.

[misty wing]

They should make an "AMX 50 120 (scuffed version)" at tier 8 with a 2-shot 380 alpha gun. Like a T77 but french

[safe cedar]

Ew, no. just make a proper surblindé version with a 5-6s intra clip.

[misty wing]

Thats why I think the 50b alpha change was dumb to begin with

[safe cedar]

Yeah, the Foch velocity change was also pretty stupid because it changed an integral characteristic of the gun.

[lyric copper]

Sublinde as tier 9 CR tank when

[misty wing]

yeah foch makes me wanna kms sometimes with the gun handling

[misty wing]

FCM F1 when

[lyric copper]

most reliable fr*nch gun:

[misty wing]

I also love it when my AP rolls for 430, then I switch to heat and it rolls for 560

[lyric copper]

personally enjoy the single shot more, but it still feels rather lacking

just a worse Ho-Ri at that point, with the only advantage being forward speed

[misty wing]

Honestly the single shot turns me off because it looks too thin to be a 155mm

[lyric copper]

it irks me more because the guns have the exact same shell velocity

despite physics saying otherwise and that the longer gun should have like Grille levels of shell velocity

[safe cedar]

I miss an average of 1.5 clips everytime I do over 5k damage in 50b, lol.

[misty wing]

50b is strangely easy to ace, only takes like 4.4k for me

[safe cedar]

Weird, for me 50b aces always take like 5.5k+, I've even done 6k and no ace, but that's probably because I never spot in 50b.

[misty wing]

Ngl it would be funny if they gave the Foch 155 an 850x3 autoloader like it had on PC a decade ago

[wheat flower]

What was the interclip on it?

[wise moth]

5s IIRC

[misty wing]

Yeah it was

[safe cedar]

I believe originally it was 8s.

[misty wing]

Nah I just watched a super old video, it's 5. Unless it was 8 at first and they buffed it to 5, which seems weird

[safe cedar]

Honestly I don't know, it was so long ago.

[misty wing]

What do you think of giving the tier 9 Foch a 130mm from the m4 54

[blissful hamlet]

💀

[safe cedar]

No. Do whatever you want to the tier 10 tho.

[misty wing]

Better than the 2 shot 120 it currently has

[safe cedar]

Yes, but to remove the 120mm it to remove the entire purpose of foch. It would be like putting the tigers gun in the jagdtiger.
Foch just needs its old single shot back and better reverse speed.

[safe cedar]

Also that is a naval cannon if I'm not wrong (Possibly rebored) they use a 155mm cannon model on pc.

[misty wing]

They should replace the tier 9 Foch with AMX AC mle. 51, and then the tier 10 is just called Foch with 120, 130, and 155mm gun options

[blissful hamlet]

I don't think the 130mm is necessary.

[misty wing]

Add a 127mm to the list as well

[blissful hamlet]

Tbf I find cool when a tank has a naval gun, even if it isn't that large.
cough cough British 102mm

[misty wing]

I know the French had 138mm on their destroyers, would be cool to see it as a tank caliber

[kindred wren]

cough Jagdtiger 8.8 cough

[blissful hamlet]

Yus, 139mm, like the japanese and the brits in some ships.
But we have the Conway with that calibre.

[kindred wren]

I mean lowkey half the guns in the game were formerly naval guns

cough 8.8, 10.5, 12.8, 100, 130,… cough

I bet even the 85 is a derivate of a naval gun repurposed FlaK repurposed tank gun

[blissful hamlet]

Fortunately we don't have 102mm guns, I find that calibre rather breh.

[safe cedar]

It wouldn't be 138mm in-game since they were almost universally bored out to 142mm (for land use).

[safe cedar]

They could do that, and buff foch to a "realistic" state and leave it be.

[misty wing]

I wonder if they could make a TD version of the Lorraine arty they have on PC

[safe cedar]

They could and I would love the hell out of it.
premium SU-152, but tier 8.

[blissful hamlet]

I think the CA Lorraine would be a interesting downtiered version of the Kanonen or the CDA.
No armor, but great mobility and a nice 100mm gun.

[misty wing]

They would probably find some way to give it less than 640 alpha

[misty wing]

That thing looks really ugly ngl, like an AC 46 but the back slopes down and no rangefinders

[safe cedar]

Watch them give it 630 alpha?

[blissful hamlet]

What about 639 alpha?

[solid gate]

Like an art

[onyx raven]

No, the 85 was based on a purpose-built AA gun.

[balmy compass]

💀

[loud arch]

Am I lucky?
Got this comrade from the free neonscape event

[dark schooner]

Did I play the tank right?

I’ve been trying to get the hang of playing frontline in this tank

I’d like to hear any suggestions on how I can improve

[safe cedar]

You must be trolling

[bitter mulch]

how does the polish hts armor compare to soviet hts?

[misty wing]

depends on if it's the IS-7 or IS-4 line

[bitter mulch]

.is7?

[misty wing]

45 TP >= IS
53TP > IS-3
50TP > IS-8
IS-7 > 60TP

in terms of armor

[pallid citrus]

can someone tell me whether i should get the FV4202 or the sheridan

[sacred trail]

Depends. You like meds or lights more?

[pallid citrus]

i like both equally

hesh seems pretty cool tho

[sacred trail]

Sheri has no solid armor whatsoever (although spaced armor can stop most HE) and has mediocre gun handling/pen coupled with a semi-painfully long reload

FV has less mobility for semi-decent armor and relies on HESH to do more damage than AP

which one’s your preference?

[pallid citrus]

not sure. if this helps, the tank i main is the leopard 1

[misty wing]

Sheridan is flat out broken right now whereas 4202 is mid, so if you care about meta, go for the former

[pallid citrus]

i prefer tanks that are more fun to play

[sacred trail]

If you find slapping people for 560 from variable range fun, go for the Sheridan

[pallid citrus]

ok i’ll try the sheridan then

hope i don’t regret it

[long hearth]

I'm done with IS3 ,innacurate af

[wheat flower]

Idk what did you expect
Its a soviet 122mm on a soviet heavy

[flat aspen]

im trying to get the boss challenge, but was thinking which tank is easier to get wins with? lower tier battles are normally shorter, so i was thinking between mathilda and ac1 sentinal, which one should i pick? or are there other better low tier tanks for this callenge?

[frail dagger]

Bro why it sucked, yet the 274A is one of the best tanks i have

Like, id say its better then Chim and even tbe centurion 5/1 its so reliable

[wheat flower]

Play in a tank that you are most confortable in going into battle

[blissful hamlet]

Not really because the IS3 & 8 have bad frontal armor and trollish sides, the opposite of the polish tanks.
I'd say the 50TP armor is more comparable to the ST-I.

[onyx raven]

And the 53TP is more akin to something like the T32.

[violet timber]

The 53TP is closer to any tier 8 IS clones than the T32

[quiet bronze]

Hey can anyone tell me how to play skoda t56? Like is it a hulldown tank, frontline, and whatnot

[long hearth]

The only thing that I can do is facehugging and oh yeah, should I angle or not for this tanks? Like what is the best position to tanking enemy shells when u can't hide

[long hearth]

And powercrepting IS3 as some people said

[onyx raven]

Not in terms of armour.

[onyx raven]

Angling on a tank with a pike nose is the dumbest possible move. What you should do is find cover to put between the enemy and your lower front plate.

[long hearth]

Meh, I never angle on that one, just want to know tho

[long hearth]

Oh, the lower front is a bit of weak part I see

[wheat flower]

Reverse angling, using obstacles to hide your hull and show only your turret.
And facehug only isolated enemy's

[long hearth]

And at what range I should engage the enemy? Mid range?

[safe cedar]

Honestly I would say it's very similar to the french AMX m4 54.

[spring sapphire]

27.5k of gold for the 268v4 are WG being serious or is this a prank?

[violet timber]

It is lol

[onyx raven]

It doesn’t have the pike nose or thick side armour that the IS-3 does

[violet timber]

Not all of the IS clones have Pike noses. Things like the celestial exist

It also has the same, if not better side armor than the IS-3

[hardy pasture]

What would y'all prefer avre or assault gun

[solid gate]

rly need another sale tbh

[ancient iron]

back after like 9 months.... got the Semovente M41.... can't afford to skip it... what do I upgrade first?

[lyric copper]

just grind it and the Bassotto out

save exp for the CC 56, 64, and CC.1

[ancient iron]

that's what I intend but I wanna know which terrible aspect of this td is the thing I want to grind out first 😛

[onyx raven]

It’s a good Tier 5 ngl

[ancient iron]

it feels pretty rough stock though

[violet timber]

The M41 is meh, the Bassotto is good

[ancient iron]

I am shocked about how slow it is tbh but the front armor feels... okay

[wheat cloud]

The M41 imo is really the best of the line. You can actually frontline unscathed and have better speed that all other TDs

[violet timber]

It’s definitely not the best of the line lol

[onyx raven]

Tier for Tier, the best is 100% the Vipera

[violet timber]

Smv 64 > Bassotto > Smv 56 > Mino > M41 > CC mk1

[wheat cloud]

In the m41 you can just recklessly ram poor tier V noobs which is as heartbreaking as devastating

[ancient iron]

on a non-italian topic.... does the M4 Ravioli still play basically like a TD?

[night citrus]

imagine playing the ravioli like a td, what a shame

[ancient iron]

I don't think it wolfpacks well given the pretty terrible reload, and the nonexistent armor.... sooo yeah... I assumed you TD with it but like.... more like a mobile TD than a pure sniper and definitely not like an assault gun

[ancient iron]

ohmylord.... KV2 is still being KV2 I see

came around the corner and got sent back to the garage from my next battle lol

[shrewd turret]

the t54e1 is just so good for some reason

[violet timber]

It’s really not

[safe cedar]

by good you mean bad right?

[shrewd turret]

nah its good as hell

[misty wing]

Clearly you haven't played the Škoda T50

[shrewd turret]

sadly i have not

[vapid ore]

is the new german prem worth

the one added to the shop

[misty wing]

The M41 90?

[vapid ore]

yes, is the bundle worth it?

i know the tank isn’t that good, but it still has some good stuff in the bundle (30 days prem and stuff)

[safe cedar]

It's basically better in every way imaginable.

[misty wing]

It's not even a bad tank. Think it's worth it as long as you like lights

[supple mountain]

does anyone here know about the Churchill Mk. VIII?

[misty wing]

chamber of thighs

[supple mountain]

ong

[shrewd turret]

drop mod name plz

[supple mountain]

check dms @shrewd turret

[long hearth]

Yo, is T1 and M6 good?

[long hearth]

Teach me how to change your garage

[bitter mulch]

Rammer or Boosted shells on lekepz?

[misty wing]

rammer

[bitter mulch]

K

[solid gate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=Wv0qg7zrjl4&embeds_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.popularmechanics.com%2Fmilitary%2Fweapons%2Fa31981151%2Fsoviet-union-rocket-tank%2F&feature=emb_logo i need dat

roket propelled t-55 lmao

[long hearth]

this AT-8 is disgusting, you can't penetrate it, but it will do constant 200 damage no matter what your tank is

[solid gate]

skill issue, there’s the huge cupola dumbo

[long hearth]

Already shot at it

"Ricochet"💀

[solid gate]

seems like rng ain’t blessing u

if u can’t pen just circle it bruh shoot the butt.

[long hearth]

I just straight hate this pyramid

[long hearth]

Normally i met one that will always camping and remained undetected , the speedy tanks isn't spotting yk

[alpine thicket]

Maus sucks ass, bye

[modest karma]

ok

[solid gate]

then avoid its view then clear all its teammates, then you can gang up on it

[alpine thicket]

🤝

[solid gate]

no wonders why someone got mastery on maus by just deal 3k 💀

[long hearth]

What, just that much?

[solid gate]

yea.
maus users are quite bad you know

[alpine thicket]

Maus itself is bad. I'd rather drive the titanic cause that thing turns quicker

[solid gate]

I played it before, seems like the whole purpose is just being the highest quality meatshield and deal some dmg ngl

[alpine thicket]

Pretty much. Mäuschen is the same, and it nearly drove me crazy

[viscid fulcrum]

i feel like the M36 needs a buff on the speed, and gun handling
i'd say the gun handling almost the same as the hellcat
armor decrease is fine, but atleast give it back its 42kmh top speed and more acceleration.
oh, maybe a slightly faster reload

[solid gate]

mauschen can atleast bully lower tier, my average dmg in mauschen is higher than maus lol

since maus have to face overpowered TDs such as badger and 268v4 or type71 more tho

[misty wing]

268/4 is not even close to overpowered

[lament briar]

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[latent bison]

M48 amazing

[solid gate]

to a maus, it is.

[solid gate]

also v4 users usually rush, which pretty much just make their weakness exposed, if it were a better player it would be hard to fight against it

[nimble radish]

No It wouldn't, too many easy to abuse weakspots

[misty wing]

the cupola is very easy to pen when the tank is relatively still, which it has to be in order to not expose the even easier to hit cheek weakspots

[solid gate]

wonder why I actually eat half of a v4’s HP with action X while playing war room

[misty wing]

war room?

[analog fox]

Any guide?

[solid wolf]

Oh no

[supple quartz]

Spot, hit and run/flank

[civic sentinel]

I just got conway should i go for the engine first or the track first?

[misty wing]

the gun
actually whatever makes the mobility better, according to the stats it gives you

[thorny smelt]

Get the gun first for Conway because 🅱️ESH

[frail dagger]

Dont know why everyone loves the mauschen, hated it more then the maus

[analog fox]

Thanks

[rough umbra]

Is the T26E3 Eagle 7 a good tank?

[honest creek]

no

[rough umbra]

Okay thanks

[uncut locust]

268 or the jgpz e100 in terms of performance and competitiveness?

[frail dagger]

depends, do u wanna have less damage no armour but some speed, or heavy tank armour, slightly faster, with better armour and a better gun

[long hearth]

German biased players or smth?

[long hearth]

Is T1 and m6 good?

[honest creek]

50/50, but not op

[blazing mantle]

[zinc finch]

hi, i love ru251, should i buy lekpz m41? or should i save up for kpz70. im looking for a fun tank, was eyeing on m41d but its t7 so i didnt buy it. also does kpz70 ever go on sale for gold

[strange badge]

Depends. What would you prefer? Dpm and mobility or dps and armour

[zinc finch]

mr mcgill im leaning towards dpm but its getting boring, im ok with more alpha but not ok with too low of a dpm. something that feels nice to shoot is okay too

[zinc finch]

ping

[strange badge]

Kpz has ok dpm and a good dps so it sounds like you should go with the kpz

[blissful hamlet]

Pong

[zinc finch]

thanks. when was the last time it went on sale, is 10k gold enough?

[blissful hamlet]

I think it was like, 8~9k last time I remember

[zinc finch]

thanks again. war thunder wont let me get it...they look so cool, just as other cold war tanks

[thorny smelt]

Pung

[stuck crest]

Any tips for Progetto M35 mod. 46? I always die with it by few seconds