vehicles-discussion

[violet timber]

The point is to show how useless EA is on the 53TP

[elder raptor]

Wow

[violet timber]

Except it doesn’t

[onyx raven]

You’re sounding less and less like someone who’s actually played the thing.

[violet timber]

HP actually does something for the 53

[thick trout]

EA is generally only useful on tanks without angled armour that is not quite thick enough to be resistant to common guns. If it's already angled on the tank then positioning will give you much more of a benefit than EA ever can.

[sacred haven]

Yeah its because of the texture of that plate.
As it is not smooth, you could think you can pen it, but not always.
Best way to be sure is to learn the thickness of that plate and know the pen of your tank.

[violet timber]

I’m clearly a 40% because I know that EA doesn’t really affect the 53TP? Brilliant.

[thick trout]

If it's already green against T8 prammo then adding T9 is going to change very little lol

[violet timber]

Here’s some images with gun dep. how right you are. I’m so sorry you 80% god at WoTB.

I’d much rather be able to maybe have a very small chance block another shot instead of knowing I’ll be able to take another one

[lethal jetty]

real

[plucky summit]

Loses argument

Starts insulting

[dapper violet]

uhhh you lost

[plucky summit]

Oh you are? Is that your username?

[dapper violet]

...
they literally demonstrated why enhanced armor is effectively useless on the 53tp

[plucky summit]

Lookng at an NA account, you do meet the requirements for the veteran role

[dapper violet]

I mean... it is useful... against the vk 100, the heavy tank with one of the worst prammo pens in the entire game

[plucky summit]

53TP doesn't need it, because frankly, you're either just going to be penetrated due to your position, or you're going to be practically safe due to your position.

Enhanced armor is really a coping mechanism for lack of effective armor positioning, for the 53TP

[dapper violet]

you can't sidescrape, so the additional angles of sidescraping aren't apparent as with most superheavies

[plucky summit]

Especially if you rely on the auto-rico angle instead of thick sides, since 3CRB will just stop you right there

[thick trout]

If you learn the tanks then you'd know that EA isn't helpful at all in the 53tp lol

[plucky summit]

Actually, I challenge you

Play 5 or so battles and send me any replays containing shots you believe would have penetrated you had you not used EA

53TP of course, that's what we're saying EA is useless for

Other tanks can actually benefit

Meta tier 8 gone, F

53TP is just a menace, it's one of the few tier 8s to keep

It's nice knowing that the tech tree tanks actually contest the meta against premiums an collectors, but it's still a wildly imbalanced tier

[charred stream]

Is it worth it to grind for good players Kranvagn?

[plucky summit]

Painful to play, really

[charred stream]

Alright

I regret it pretty much to have grinded the Obj 268 tree

[dapper violet]

268 is chill

[plucky summit]

268 ain't bad, it just doesn't have gimmicks, it's an all-rounder

[charred stream]

More about the grind to get to it, aka Su 152/Isu 152

[plucky summit]

Those tanks were fun for me, especially SU-152
I hope you used the 152mm

[kind flicker]

268 is easiest line to grind ngl

[charred stream]

Su 85 is kind of better than the Tier 6/7/8 Variants, after 3 shots the Match is over most of the time(woth 152mm) thats just 1800 dmg if you pen

[plucky summit]

Really? 600 damage isn't even killing one heavy tank

Oh, I thought you were talking about the SU-85 lol

[kind flicker]

Isu152 with bl10 is amazing, obj704 with bl10 is also amazing
Su152 with 122 has amazing dpm
The whole tree is great

[plucky summit]

I would probably gamble that you were fighting bots

[charred stream]

The hell I know, its just that the tanks are very slow and have compared to su 85 bad reload and armor

[plucky summit]

SU-85 doesn't have great armor to speak of, just like the rest of the line, barring 268, maybe

[kind flicker]

Isu with 12.2 for 640 alpha
Su with 6.5 for 400 alpha
There reloads aren't that bad and the mobility is good enough

[charred stream]

For its tier its capable to bounce stuff angled and hull down

[plucky summit]

SU-85's armor is worse than I thought

You were just getting lucky

It's 60mm effective on the front, and that bounces hmm... counts on fingers
ZERO tanks

[onyx raven]

Bots will also miss on purpose

[kind flicker]

Also because the rest of the line goes 400-670 damage

[onyx raven]

And hit goofy angles

[plucky summit]

Oop hold on, Valentine II needs APCR to penetrate 🗿

Obj. 268 easily has a better tier-for-tier armor profile

[kind flicker]

The whole line is amazing, good mobility, good dpm, best guns tier for tier

[thick trout]

"Source: because I said so against all the evidence that's been provided against it?"

[thorny smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-eating-interested-interesting-eat-gif-17370353

[safe cedar]

Honestly the tech tree tanks are crazy strong in tier 8. old stuff like AMX-50 100 still beats out newer prems emil 1951 and Souma.

[violet timber]

Ah yes, me showing screen shot evidence that your claims are false means that I lost the argument. Pure genius.

[violet timber]

Yes, Kran is one of the best holding heavies in the game

[thick trout]

@solid gate There's no need for insults, and as a general rule if you have to resort to insults your argument probably isn't sound

[covert holly]

where should i go?

[wary summit]

LTTB, it's a bit forgiving and fun

Beware of the horrid depression of the final gun

[thorny smelt]

Two words: ad hominem

[violet timber]

I’m on the NA server lol. And yes, your claims have been proven false.

This Australia guy sure does talk a lot of smack for how average he plays

[thorny smelt]

@exotic fog ^^^

[vast elk]

You can just leave the server, yknow. No need to beg for a ban like you are doing rn

[violet timber]

If you are not a he, please let me know and I will amend my statement

[vast elk]

Trolling?

Reread your previous messages. An explanation is not necessary.

This isn't even a fun drama anymore. You're being very bland with your insults. Quit already maybe?

[violet timber]

Can’t have an actual argument with facts
Resorts to insults
Calls others “child”

[thorny smelt]

I can see that guy is new

[violet timber]

I’m American though, but good guess. And I’ve already shown you the facts, they were the screen shots I sent.

[thorny smelt]

@pulsar sinew What do you think of this convo?

[fleet berry]

_Australia#2422 was banned.

[vast elk]

Boom

[pulsar sinew]

I don’t think I like it

Thank you guys for not stopping to their level

[violet timber]

I do my best

[thorny smelt]

Ratus is doing its best.

Ad hominems everywhere for that user.

[silver sage]

https://tenor.com/view/antman-what-the-hell-happened-here-avengers-gif-18240147

[violet timber]

Someone couldn’t handle the truth

[wary summit]

53TP moment

[silver sage]

Alright time to start a conversation...
LT-432 > T54 Ltwt

[violet timber]

qWack!

[balmy compass]

I agree
Although I haven’t done research on the matter

[uncut locust]

is the extra hp really that much better than the 4% more armor?

[dapper violet]

Are you sidescraping: ❌
Is your upper plate easily pennable in ok positions: ❌
Overmatch silliness:❌

Use more hp

[thorny smelt]

I own that little USSR pancake

[wise moth]

Yes. One thing that extra armor supporters frequently overlook is the impact extra HP has on enemy decision making.

It’s extra HP doesn’t simply mean you can survive one more hit. There are frequently scenarios where that extra HP means that the enemy knows you are a 2-shot, instead of a one-shot. That makes them play differently. A tank on 1-shot HP makes it way more likely for the enemy to just take a hit to kill you, but being on a two shot will make them think twice, knowing they’ll have to stay exposed for another reload to kill you

[gray wraith]

i hate lights and mediums

[elder raptor]

World of Pixel

[uncut locust]

appreciate the help

[civic sun]

Dude tiger 2 and e 75 are mid

[mental night]

true

[safe cedar]

They are kinda the same tbh.

[violet timber]

💀

[ocean valve]

What?

[silver sage]

Not really. Aside from Russian tank design. There’s some major difference between the two

[safe cedar]

True. personally the reverse speed and high shell velocity make it very fun.

[austere basin]

Lowkey wish Kpz 70 got gun depression buff

[cloud hound]

true balance, except i got mauled by multiple enemies while my teammates flanked and eventually won

[copper swan]

🥱

[safe cedar]

Well until then, you can try and créâte artificial gun depression.

[safe cedar]

Unlikely, they have extremely long reload that you will very likely be uncomfortable in. I would recommend instead purchasing à tank such as the "t54e2"

[onyx raven]

No. I wouldn’t recommend buying a high-tier premium until you’ve reached Tier 8, and you appear to still be in the game’s early stages. Just wait and get some combat with other players in. Determine your playstyle before buying a premium tank.

[thorny smelt]

I agree

[kind flicker]

dont buy a t10 prem/collector until you have grinded one yourself

[elfin ingot]

Also try nit to speed run lines and screw up ur wr

[safe cedar]

Actually it's better for them to buy à tier 8 premium, so they learn tactics against actual players and get réal experience instead of fighting bots and getting handled wins. Also having the ability to actually fight back against your enemies makes forming à habit of camping less likely.

[lofty scarab]

Nostalgia

[lofty scarab]

Me who bought super conquerer and 2 battlepass tanks when I first started 😉

[dapper aspen]

Couldn’t resist the 4 defenders , but for gold. Real money is for the new pc and I got this in one of the mystery crates that came with the special missions

Is it fun tank ?

[frail dagger]

Sorry to be that guy, but no, it aint that good, another IS clone

[silent vale]

Why do IS 3 and T28 Defender got that slow intraclip again?

I mean Yeah I get that but still, it's just so annoying

[dapper aspen]

It is , 7,5 seconds for IS3 but it’s ok. They all are pretty fun tanks to play. About the WZ , it’s ok for me , it’s just an extra premium even though it maybe ain’t that special

[sacred haven]

dude really posts a screenshot from 4 years ago to try to show off xD

[sacred haven]

it's a credits stock
if you need credits at one point and you dont like/use this tank, just sell it
its never bad to have one more premium in your collection

[ocean valve]

140 opinion anyone?

[sacred haven]

not as good as it used to be
good for experienced players
but you might restart the debate they had yesterday with the choice of gun for this tank xD

[rich olive]

62 better

[onyx raven]

Absolutely awful. One of the worst Tier 8 premiums right now.

[ocean valve]

There is nothing going for this tank. It's boring

[violet timber]

Very nice to play

[misty wing]

140 is really fun, fastest accelerating tank at tier 10 and the armor/profile is substantially better than Leo 1

[solid gate]

I got this from legendary operations container
Is it a good tank?

[onyx raven]

It’s not anything special

[supple hearth]

Cap

[onyx raven]

You appear to be delusional.

[sacred haven]

its an armored p43
can bounce some T6s, wont do the job against T7
but it's a nice addition to your collection, BattlePass tanks arent sold again after the month is over

[solid gate]

Thx for info
I was about to buy more containers but they went gone

[sacred haven]

yup
and in my opinion it looks cool ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[elfin girder]

How is obj 907? Is it worth buying if your a medium player?

[kind flicker]

400 alpha with a 1.5 sec interclip and 21 sec reload is kinda broken

[silent vale]

Yeah like i already said i get that but it's still so annoying espiacally when matching up with tier 8

[kind flicker]

I find it's perfectly fine

[solid gate]

I wanna grind the 4005 but i can't do it when I still have **** team and getting 300pd per battle

[rustic pulsar]

does someone know a good tank i should grind im bored

[onyx raven]

What you got already

[rustic pulsar]

thats the thing, i havent researched a ix bc no ppl and even google isnt helpful enough

[balmy compass]

get the IS-7

[onyx raven]

Well then, what have you got to IX?

[rustic pulsar]

a panther 2, is 3, tiger 2, m3 yoh,

[balmy compass]

get the IS-8 then IS-7
after that get E 75 then E 100

[rustic pulsar]

Alr, thx

[vale carbon]

Wargaming if you don’t add this I will

[rustic pulsar]

And just asking, is it gonna be different if i "switch" the e 75 with the is-8?

[stray merlin]

What happened to collectible tanks being collectible and having a sense of rarity in this game? The whole concept seems to have been ruined with them consistently releasing them for sale every week. They may as well be premiums

[balmy compass]

you'll still need to get the IS-8 before the IS-7
but yeah there isn't rly a big deal of getting both tier IX's first

[balmy compass]

by WG's standards, a Collectible can be nerfed by WG but a prem is an almost 100% no chance of nerfs
Prems also tend to have a slightly higher credit coeff but that isn't much so in tier X
Collectors are also sold for gold, which makes "swapping" tier X collectors easy

[stray merlin]

That's not a very good distinction for the majority of the playerbase who aren't aware of this. If that's the only difference they should probably make it clearer in game.

[solid gate]

Thoughts on the chieftain?

[violet timber]

Reliable

[daring merlin]

Great gun, decent mobility. Ok turret armour

[lyric copper]

just needs that little bit more to be truly good

[lyric oriole]

Kinda bad

[lilac mica]

Could be better

[onyx raven]

Forgettable

[daring merlin]

Buff the hatch and its very good

[mossy flax]

What if they add a two-turreted tank, that works?

[gloomy shell]

pls chieftain and superconqueror hd skins

[lyric copper]

nah hatch stays as it is

what the chief needs is a uniform, at least 350mm turret frontally, and some more engine power

[granite rivet]

It’s balanced, the problem is that it’s been power-crept.

[violet timber]

Balanced and powercrept don’t go together at tier 10

[plucky summit]

I mean for a tank that was OP and then powercrept, it could remain balanced afterwards

Though, Chieftain doesn't fit that bill so

[violet timber]

The differences in tier 10 are so small that if something is powercrept, it basically immediately becomes bad

[safe cedar]

having slightly less accuracy completely trashing tanks

[daring merlin]

The MK-6 is not bad, its lost some of its shine. Obj 260 is a newer tank, and i wouldnt say its better then the MK-6. Id even say the MK-6 is better then the E-6

[valid gale]

That’s just cap

E6 is just as fast has much better pen and equal HP 260 is worse than mk6 as it has literally no armor and a mediocre gun

[peak totem]

New tier 8?

lol

[frail dagger]

Should i save for new Czech heavies or get the TVP T10 with Free xp

[dapper violet]

You’ll have more luck with wt

[safe cedar]

Depends. Do you like armour or mobility?

[frail dagger]

Im good with everything

[safe cedar]

Go tvp then

[frail dagger]

4x10Xp, prem account and all the boosters, we gettin TVP today

First game; 77% loss

27K xp second game, lets hope i can keep this up

[frail dagger]

4 losses in a row, 1 afk in each

[peak totem]

Oof

[frail dagger]

Avg 2.5K dmg tho, and 1K assisted, so im doing well, teams sometimes are just

TVP researched!!!!!

First ever T10 Medium is mine, the most dangerous tank at T10 is in my possesion

[safe cedar]

Wow, nice man

[frail dagger]

Just researched Centurion 7/1 too, man these x10 XP things really are smth else

[sly night]

Hello there, is the Pershing worth it?

[balmy compass]

For historical reference? Yes
For battle performance? Meh

[sly night]

So it somewhat a ok tank then?

[balmy compass]

Yes

[sly night]

Ok thanks@balmy compass

[balmy compass]

👍

[elfin girder]

It’s not bad I’ve played a few games in it

[solid gate]

🫡 T-25

[rugged gale]

My only premium that i get on a free crate lol

[solid gate]

lucky

[solid gate]

I opened 50 alpha things and only got 1 premium

4.3M credits until type 71

[plucky summit]

The music 🗿🗿🗿🗿

They're all pretty basic tanks, except the Defender Mk. I, which you should not purchase until you are at tier 10

[misty wing]

The music 🗿

[thorny smelt]

You've made the wrong decision

[frail dagger]

question; whats the Defender Mk.1 closer too… the TVP 50/51 or the FV4202, a brit….

[odd cove]

a shorter armored 4k5

[plucky summit]

In what way is Defender Mk. I like FV4202 🗿

[sacred haven]

They look like brits tanks.
That's pretty much it.

[frail dagger]

tanks i grind-ed today: Foch, TVP 50/51, Cent 5/1, all modules for AMX 50/100, all modules for T-54LTWT

[night citrus]

cent 5/1 is a tech tree?

[sacred haven]

no
its Cent 1 at T8 and cent 7/1 at T9

[wise moth]

Pershing is OP

[wheat cloud]

hard agree this tank is absolutely bonkers

[onyx raven]

Stop already. You’ve asked this question several times now.

No. The Defenders rely on skill and knowledge, which you lack given your lack of Tier Vs.

Now, please, stop asking this question.

[zenith shadow]

Do these tanks fit for me ?

[ripe pasture]

HoT tOg* II

[zenith shadow]

Yes hot tog 🌭

[sacred haven]

WeGe we need a proper hottog camo

not like the crappy one on PC
with a proper sausage
and a proper bread

[rustic pulsar]

Should i go with the is-7 or e 100 as my first tier x?

[zenith shadow]

Ikr

[sacred haven]

is7 is easier to play for a non experienced player imo

the armor on the is7 is good enough to forgive a lot of mistakes
the E100 can be eaily penned so you need to know how to play it

[rustic pulsar]

given the fact that im horrible with positioning etc ima go with the is 7 then. thx

[violet timber]

The E100 is a really good starter tank

[sacred haven]

E100 is just a big box that can be penned with any gold shell
the armor of the IS7 is not penable hulldown

[violet timber]

It’s 9.1 rework made it more noob friendly than it already was, making it basically noob-proof to play

[elfin girder]

The is7 is a piñata on flat ground though

[sacred haven]

on flat groud it has to rely on troll bounces yes

[solid gate]

fv215b 183 😳

[rustic pulsar]

ofc it has great armor

gonna get pen-d from the front with a he

[balmy compass]

Yeah 183 has some armor

When fighting a WZ-121

[hollow belfry]

330+ mm of frontal turret armor when perfectly unangled
"Can be penned by any gold shell"
Do we play the same game?

[violet timber]

313*

[gray wraith]

tds have as much as 400/450 pen on gold shells

[ripe valve]

Angle turret, hide the huge lower hull, sidescrapze, conserve health.

IS-7 can't side scrape as well due to pike nose, has only 6 degrees, but has troll armor.

[gray wraith]

but no one throws gold shells out the window like that

[violet timber]

No TD gets 450

[hollow belfry]

Up to 418 is the best you’ll get

[vital flax]

🧐

[hollow belfry]

And at that point it’s not just about the E100’s armor. About any tank would get penned by such shells

[onyx raven]

Ho-Ris, Heavies, Grilles and Jageroos

[solid gate]

When will come the new line?

[violet timber]

Snecc is right. There are gold shells that cannot penetrate the E100s frontal turret profile, therefore it is not “any gold round”, but only a select few

[onyx raven]

In 10.0

[hybrid kraken]

What’s ur opinion on the Swedish meds in blitz

[balmy compass]

Lansen C is one of the best tanks in the game
(opinionated review)

[onyx raven]

What meds

[hybrid kraken]

Swedish meds from wot pc

[safe cedar]

Honestly I can't speak bad of the changes, due to the sheer popularité of German heavies with new players. It's one of the few lines I do believe should be easy to play and accessible for new players.

[onyx raven]

They wouldn’t be that good. Like Leopard 1s.

[hybrid kraken]

Mhmm

[violet timber]

I think they could be rather good

[hybrid kraken]

Imagine if the add bz-176 to blitz

[lyric copper]

autbounce angles are cringe

[solid gate]

What should i grind right now,tier 8 and 9

[stark cairn]

Look my tank

[ripe valve]

I thought it was the AMX M4 mle. 54 with Firebird skin, but it looks to be some modded E 100?

[fallow shuttle]

Probably

[valid gale]

How does one misidentify a tank that bad

[ripe valve]

I saw the tank first, color scheme and shape looked similar st first glance. XD

[zenith ruin]

Does anyone know what the special mechanic is going come with the Škoda heavies?

[light orbit]

VK 90 or Objekt 268 v4 ?

[violet timber]

VK

[elfin girder]

Got anyone using the STB-1? Is it decent?

[solid gate]

personally like leopard 1 more

[elfin girder]

Already got leopard 1

[solid gate]

if stb-1 worked like how it does in Wot pc i would recommend it

[violet timber]

STB-1 is good

[wheat cloud]

Biggest disapointment in my game. It looks slick as hell, but it doesnt have the pc pneumatic system which it deserves
Its a really good tank with a steady winrate and unique playstyle due to how many hulldown spots you and only you can abuse
All and all its a very good tank but some tanks in the line are horrendous

[elfin girder]

Yea I heard it’s one of the worst grinds in the game

[wheat cloud]

I actually ended up liking a lot of the line ; mostly after several games in the tanks and a full crew

The chi-ri is sleeper op in my opinion

[obsidian mirage]

Bro i think this is bad idea

[thorny smelt]

What???!!!!!

[opal wagon]

Sturmtiger when?

[thorny smelt]

I think it's just an April Fools' joke

[obsidian mirage]

Ahh.... Yeah maybe (i forgot about April fools)

[opal wagon]

but what if not?

[solid gate]

😔 AE phase 1

[obsidian mirage]

Bro ,does ae phase have the same mobile track skills as myo h?

[solid gate]

the yoh?

[obsidian mirage]

Yeah because ae phase have 4 track

[solid gate]

I doubt it. The tank is older

[solid gate]

After you sell a tank does it no longer show up on ur profile?

[zenith shadow]

There is nothing wrong with artillery ?

[frail dagger]

Its april fools, even on Droodles’s news post there are numerous flaws, there will never be a T8 BP, arty wont enter, armour highlighting would exist, 8 players wouldnt exist, 2500 dmg a shot is yknow, very bad, they are not feasible, and its april 1st,

[mild otter]

8 players would exist, WG said they're gonna try out large maps

[valid gale]

Everything wrong with it (and it’s April fools)

[past crane]

The M44 is tier 6

[frail dagger]

The odds of this being true is -100%

[tight raven]

Still waiting WG to buff TVP 18 sec reload clip

[spice willow]

Adding a Artillery Tanks, but it is Work in Progress...

[plucky summit]

🗿

[fair shale]

wut 💀

[frail dagger]

they would have said smth, its never been done where a in progress is found before WOTB releases it

[solid gate]

I feel like the gun on the type 71 should do dmg like the 60tp

[thorn folio]

This has GOTTA be April fools

[misty wing]

I really wish it isn't tbh

[solid gate]

photo shop e100.

[stark cairn]

Yep

[solid gate]

Is real

[night citrus]

what date is today?

[spice willow]

Maybe???

[night citrus]

nope, theyre gonna add abrams

[river yew]

Hmm... Fuel tank...

[night citrus]

yeah where u gonna store the coolant?

[river yew]

Hmm ok now i thinking that...

[solid gate]

[spring jackal]

yeah just a joke

[thorn folio]

I still want it as a temporary game mode though where everything just fires arty shells

[night citrus]

theres a thing called wot pc

[regal thorn]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYq8ccSo/

[charred stream]

Is this thing good for silver grind?

[peak totem]

I just hope it’s true cuz we need bigger maps imo

But the screenshots do look bad otherwise that’s just my crappy cellular data

[light orbit]

why

[graceful whale]

show ur stats

[graceful whale]

Average tier quite low
I recommend playing more higher tiers before buying premiums

[solid gate]

april fools joke, you can watch Droodles video

[lament vortex]

There are people who don’t have a pc 🙄

[wheat cloud]

wot pc bad its p2w

[charred stream]

Its because im new on mobile

[charred stream]

Thats my stats on different platform

[simple bough]

Is that blitz tho?

[solid gate]

Hi guys, I know that the super pershing is more profitable than the löwe, but i dont know the most profitable

[elfin girder]

A vehicles income also comes down to the damage you can do in it. Lowe is likely more reliable as an income earner because you can achieve higher damage in it. The super Pershing is a medium that can get easily destroyed and earn little. I play the Emil 1951 as my income earner and it brings in a lot of silver. It comes down to preference as a lot of tier 8 premiums have good credit coefficients

[solid gate]

But what is in the specific the credit coefficient?

[elfin girder]

Lowe is 180% super Pershing is 185% but I always earn more credits on the Lowe thanks to doing more damage and damage deflection

Emil 1951 is 175% but it earns a lot of credits because it can clip for a lot of damage

Credit coefficient isn’t the be all end all for determining a tanks earning potential

[charred stream]

Nope but my stats are identical

[quasi venture]

and blitz isnt

[wheat cloud]

Compared to wot pc? No

[quasi venture]

fair

[lofty scarab]

It's so annoying to farm for e 100

My team is actually selling Holy crap

[normal forge]

E75 maxed is actually decent

[lofty scarab]

Bruh I'm just trying to go straight and like not spend extra

[normal forge]

Why would you? Getting into hightiers with no experience is pointless

[wet prism]

You will spare suffering and get there faster If you Research all modules

[solid gate]

Leopard 1 or STB-1?

[onyx raven]

STB by a long shot.

[normal forge]

This

[obtuse dome]

anyone know why VK 90 don't fly in Gravity Force mode?

[normal forge]

Too fat

[obtuse dome]

I see fat tanks fly

[obtuse dome]

no it was my mistake I just notice that just heavy can't fly but fat TD can fly, thank you

[safe cedar]

Maximum profits

[elfin girder]

Only if your good in it. Your income is based on battle performance to

[safe cedar]

well yes, but I can suffer. I went through +-2mm this is nothing tbh.

[elfin girder]

I’m just saying have +5% credit coeff more than the Lowe means nothing if you suck in the super Pershing

[safe cedar]

Everyone sucks in superpershing, simply because it's à completely garbage tank.

Tbh most of the pershings are garbage

[elfin girder]

That is why Lowe earns more credits. That is what my premise was all along

[lofty scarab]

Guess I gotta buy pass cause I'm gonna be running out of resources

[wheat cloud]

tech tree pershing op

[safe cedar]

It's alright.

[surreal gate]

What to research next?

[static edge]

W I D E

[onyx raven]

Hunky Chunky

[stray steppe]

if arty is coming i am coming

[onyx raven]

For the last time, Arty is not coming to blitz!

[stray steppe]

It Will come

[elfin girder]

The developers have made it crystal clear that arty will never be in blitz as it’s not practical to implement them. The entire game would need to be reworked as well as map sizes would need to be quadrupled which would make it impossible to be used on a phone

[onyx raven]

It won’t

[stray steppe]

Itwill

[onyx raven]

Prove it

[tepid stump]

man imagine driving really fast and suddenly falling out of the map💀

[elfin girder]

I have done that lol or getting stuck inside buildings

Gravity mode is the worst for that lol

[stray steppe]

We will see in next 10 years

[onyx raven]

That isn’t proof.

[stray steppe]

I said will not going to be s.

[onyx raven]

What are you saying?

This isn’t the right channel.

[stray steppe]

Looks like you don't have any idea about gammer

[onyx raven]

I know English likely isn’t your first language, but could you try to repeat that one more time?

[frail dagger]

Centurion 7/1 or foch

[thorny smelt]

Bruh. It's an April Fool's joke. You're just fallen for it.

[tardy yacht]

Give the T28 Defender penetration stats homogenous penetration stats to The T28 Prototype.

[violet timber]

So you want to buff one of the best performing Tier 8 TDs?

[tardy yacht]

Yes I want it to have as much penetration as the T28 Prototype

[violet timber]

So you want it to be overperforming then?

[tardy yacht]

imo the penetration is underperforming

[violet timber]

The tank as a whole is performing quite well

[tardy yacht]

Tell me what strengths it has

[violet timber]

Better armor and mobility than the tech tree, while having a pretty strong clip.

[valid gale]

It’s pretty well armored frontally most tier 8s need gold to pen it it has a good health pool and is less HE prone than it’s tech tree variant

[tardy yacht]

The frontal armor is negligible because of gold spam

[violet timber]

Gold spam making your decent HP pool better

[valid gale]

That applies to all tier 8s anyways

[plucky summit]

LOL “This tank is bad because you need gold shells to pen it”

[violet timber]

T-28D is one of the only TDs that can effectively play like a heavy, giving it a massive advantage in the current meta

[tardy yacht]

How about the Semovente Controcarro mod. 1964?

[plucky summit]

Me when use OP example

[violet timber]

By far and away the best tech tree TD, arguably the best tier 8 td

[valid gale]

Best heavy tbh

[tardy yacht]

You do realize you made a hypocritical statement?

[plucky summit]

Yes, in response to your logic

[tardy yacht]

How is my logic hypocritical?

[violet timber]

💀

[valid gale]

How is a tank bad because it can be penned by gold that’s damage reduction genius

[plucky summit]

Taking away from a tank’s value simply because it boasts a strength that requires sacrifices to deal with

[violet timber]

Type 71 was bad before the nerf because you needed gold shells to reliably pen it 😔

[valid gale]

T28 prot having less armor less hp and less movement because that thing has absolutely no armor

[solid gate]

can someone help me out at #general-blitz-discussion

[tardy yacht]

Type 71's armor was and still is good it was just better before the mobility nerf since it had ridiculous hull traverse rate therefore could wiggle faster and could bounce more shells

[plucky summit]

Getting gold spammed means you have a broken armor profile, that’s the point

[violet timber]

I’ve had enough Blitz official moments for the week, Good Night yall

[tardy yacht]

lol ok

[valid gale]

Mfw I can’t eliminate a mandatory weakness

[tardy yacht]

I didn't say I wanted to make the armor stronger just wanted more penetration on the shells

[plucky summit]

Our point is that the penetration is not only fine as it is, but it serves as a balancing point for the rest of the tank’s stats

[vale carbon]

Wargaming please add this

[solid gate]

if they does don’t ask why the front small turret is useless cuz only 1 gun can shot lol

[slim crypt]

it would get 0° gd if they added the small turret

[solid gate]

nah that small turret maybe placed on the left or right similar to KV5

[wheat cloud]

the only land battleship which ever worked!

[frail dagger]

Honest opinion, LTG rules

[solid gate]

Did they buff t54ltwt?

[lilac mica]

the reload was nerfed recently

[zenith shadow]

Wargaming should add this instead neubaufahrzeug

[tardy yacht]

Imagine how strong the Kampfpanzer 70 would be in a hull down position with 10° of gun depression and an additional 5° "kneel" with hydropneumatic suspension.

[plucky summit]

That strong = Bad

[tardy yacht]

Bad: ❎
Overpowered: ✅

[plucky summit]

I’m not talking about the tank, I’m talking about tank balance, which you seem to agree with

[surreal gate]

Should I research the T32 or M-VII-Yoh?

[balmy compass]

T32

[stray merlin]

Since when did this skin exist?

[rich fulcrum]

recently

[dapper violet]

added 9.8

[stray merlin]

Oh I see

[obsidian mirage]

Hell punishment skin?

[plucky summit]

Colossus

[balmy compass]

Iron Furnace

[onyx raven]

9.7

[solid gate]

Do open turret tanks (Like the hell cat, grille etc.) have a shell reload animation with the graphic update?

[frail dagger]

Nope

[solid gate]

Rip wish they did

[plucky summit]

It’d look pretty cursed without the crew though

[solid gate]

You are hallucinating

[plucky summit]

🤨

Not sure what you mean, chief

[charred stream]

This tank is just wild

[blissful hamlet]

No but at least there's the breech recoil in pbr tanks

[fringe veldt]

Hi guys. I grinded the T110E5 but I just cant play it. The T29 turret was strong, the T32s Turret is pretty indestructable. So i thought this line will be stong turrets. Then the M103 was pain to grind and the E5 feels the same. Besides saying GG, what am i missing? thinking i might sell it.

[blissful hamlet]

Watch some tutorials of how to play the E5 before anything else and see if it's a playstyle you like

[lyric copper]

Use the E5s excellent gun to peek-shot

don’t stay still on a ridge

[misty wing]

E5's turret is still very trustworthy, despite all the complaints it got post-PBR

[fringe veldt]

No doubt its mostly a me issue (skill) 🙂 I'll go fall down a youtube E5 hole. Thanks for tips 😉

[misty wing]

you can't be too aggressive because you lack DPM, but the E5 does have a very strong upper plate, so you don't really need to go full hulldown like some other tanks

[tardy yacht]

a face-hugging T110E5 is very annoying indeed

[half crypt]

Can someone gib me tips for Sköda T50? I am currently stuck on this tank for 2weeks and can't proceed further

[spice cipher]

What does the “cyclic gun” mean? People on reddit say it is the new Skoda’s gun

[violet timber]

It’s the proper term for a single shot gun

[spice cipher]

@violet timber oh, thanks. I was not sure 🙂

[undone star]

Peek when youre fighting against one tank and he doesnt know you are here,dont do 1v1s if u cant kill with full loader,always have teammates closer since its an autoloader and u cant always rely on skoda's speed to run

[half crypt]

Yeah I've noticed that it's quite slow

But like the front is too big to peak or maybe IDK how to peak properly

[undone star]

Maybe play with someone u can rely on to help eachother,playing with 2 autoloaders is way more fun than playing alone

[half crypt]

What do you mean by autoloader?

Like the topgun wich has 3 shots?

[lyric copper]

yes thats what an autoloader is

[topaz sage]

Thoughts on the M60?

[stiff cedar]

What do you think of this sherman with a Japanese cannon?

[balmy compass]

Everyone: GuP

[onyx raven]

It’s a Sherman Firefly?

[stiff cedar]

It is equipped with a 75mm type 3 cannon.

[undone star]

A gun that can load 2 or more shells to fire them and then sit to reload

[rustic pulsar]

is it still worth to grind grill or sheridan?

[balmy compass]

Sheridan yes
Grille yes if you like being in pain

[half crypt]

What tank should I grind for after TVP 50/51?

[rustic pulsar]

im in pain even with the most armored tanks :/

[wise moth]

AMX 50 B

[copper swan]

who in the right mind would use a t110e5 to facehug an enemy unless the enemy tank is lower than itself

[balmy compass]

me 🗿
E5 is excellent at facehugging

[copper swan]

yeah keep facehugging every tank you meet

[balmy compass]

I will gun block them so they can't penetrate me 😎
besides, who would actually hit the back of the roof

[violet timber]

Ah yes, they will see over your tank 💀

[undone star]

E5's roof is hard to aim though,only a bigger tank could have a chance to do that, and even if they could the e5 can just keep moving forwards and backwards to avoid getting shot

[copper swan]

enemy tanks taller than the E5 can aim at the E5's turret roof
and not every E5 player keeps moving to throw off your aim

[undone star]

That doesnt make the tank bad for that situation though, it depends on the player

[balmy compass]

so which tanks have their gun over the E5's turret on flat ground

[copper swan]

above images are with standard shells
likely some players would use higher penetration premium rounds to shoot

[undone star]

Yeah but they need to be exactly as tall as it is on the image, smaller tanks cant do that

[violet timber]

Very few, if any.

[undone star]

And even if they could, who would drive an e5 to flat ground, having an e5 on irregular ground is enough to make a shot through the roof almost impossible

[copper swan]

many players of the not smart playerbase

[undone star]

Well thats not the tanks fault as i said before 💀

[balmy compass]

well when you facehug, both tanks are on the same level of terrain 90% of the time

[copper swan]

and see the above images again
not saying the E5 is bad, just that the flat turret roof can be vulnerable

[balmy compass]

I only see getting shot in the turret roof is when someone has the high ground against me

[undone star]

That would matter if they are moving the same direction at the same time

[valid gale]

It’s very cherrypicky like do you not know moving is a thing

[copper swan]

@valid gale

[undone star]

Well it isnt because you dont get any much chances to do that and people mostly just go for the lower plate instead (or sides)

[valid gale]

Yes you can be upfront within someone’s face that doesn’t mean just drive straight forward and literally hug the enemy hull

[rustic pulsar]

what should i spend 379k free xp on

[undone star]

Any line u dont want to grind,like 183

[balmy compass]

all the Soviet tanks

[lyric copper]

sidehug

[wise moth]

^^^
Sidehug >>>> facehug

By far one my my favorite thing to do is to juke the 52%ers who only know how to facehug, then get them into a sidehug and absolutely murder them

[balmy compass]

Don’t they just shoot your sides

[wise moth]

If you have the shorter tank, than they usually only have shots on your turret, which makes you a much harder target

[balmy compass]

I only see that do-able in lts/meds vs big heavies

[wise moth]

Even in smaller heavies it works well. IS-7, 113, those will make short work of non-Communist heavies in a sidehug

[balmy compass]

Why can’t an E5 deal with them

[plucky summit]

Gun blocking funni

[balmy compass]

Just shoot the engine deck

[plucky summit]

WZ-113 will win by DPM at least

[balmy compass]

That I can agree too

[plucky summit]

IS-7 shouldn't sidehug an E5, really

[hasty thunder]

im tired of KV4 please suggest easy tier 10 to grind for
im beginner

[plucky summit]

60TP

[hasty thunder]

is it relatively easy ?

@plucky summitwhich country it is from

[plucky summit]

@hasty thunder
Yes, it's easy to understand, just go hulldown and win
It is Polish, in the EU nation tree

[hasty thunder]

@plucky summit i want easier tech tree
i mean easier to grind to

[plucky summit]

Imo it’s the easiest

[lyric oriole]

Dunno about that, E 100 line is easier

Way more pen on each of the guns in a tier

Generally penetration is the biggest factor for new players

[plucky summit]

I figured if the weakspot is there, it's not gonna get much bigger through penetration.

Though, I personally find it simple to seek a hulldown playstyle, it feels like common sense to me.

A new player that hulldowns is a new player that doesn't need to fail at angling

Granted, tier 6 and 7 is certainly preferable for the Germans

[lyric oriole]

You'd be surprised at how often new players struggle with gun depression hull down is imo an intermediate tactic

Basic angling first, then more advanced

[plucky summit]

I wish there were more tanks that actually taught angling.

Lowe is an example, an upper plate that's strong, but needs angling to be safe. Strong enough sides to allow sidescraping, and a generally tough turret

[lyric oriole]

Stop it you Löwe fanboy

It's bad

[plucky summit]

Dang, I thought you'd point out how bad Lowe players were with angling, which would have served my hulldown > angling point

[lyric oriole]

Nah, Lowe just has too many weakspots, like weakspots are fine, but it has too many

[plucky summit]

They really shouldn't have buffed the hull

They buffed the turret, but made it less capable of fighting higher pen tanks

[violet timber]

Lowe is a fine tank though. Standard weak points that are easy to hide, an S-Tier gun, and understandably bad mobility.

[lyric oriole]

The standard weakpoints are only easy to hide if you are never spotted or the whole tank is behind a building

Either way, Tiger still best newbie friendly tank to teach angling

[violet timber]

It’s really just the lower plate that’s a problem. The turret can be wiggled pretty easily

[lyric oriole]

[plucky summit]

Tiger II doesn't provide a very noticeable benefit, especially against people who just press 2

Well Tiger I angle bad >:)

[lyric oriole]

I didn't say the sequel

Not now with it's cool kid spaced armor

[plucky summit]

Spaced armor is a nerf

Though, not for Tiger's sake

[lyric oriole]

Btw that Emoji will be coming to this server with a few others soon ™

[plucky summit]

I wish I could do an emoji
I have skissue tho

[wet otter]

Anyone know the best way to play super conq?

[plucky summit]

Just hulldown

That's it

[violet timber]

Any position that doesn’t Show your lower plate is a good position

[wet otter]

I’m having trouble though when fighting other tanks like krans and 60tps cause I just get cupola sniped

[cloud hound]

hulldown can be so difficult, when i first began playing it was the most confusing thing how the ru251 had 10 degrees of gun depression only if you shot from a diagonal position

[balmy compass]

Ru-251 gets 10 degrees depression over the sides

[plucky summit]

Super Conqueror just gets 10 degrees

[cloud hound]

man the dumbest part was that the first tank line i tried to grind was the leopard 1 line

[violet timber]

However, if you reverse hulldown, you only get 5

[cloud hound]

still not as bad as the STA-1

[plucky summit]

Yeah that need to change that

Make it 0 so dum dums get punished more

[vernal yoke]

but who actually do taht?

[violet timber]

Reverse hulldown in the STA gets you 2 degrees of gun elevation

[wet otter]

lol that’s just asking for a free he shell

[cloud hound]

2 degrees is the closest thing to the 5 degs of depression i now have on my t54

[plucky summit]

That’s such a terrible joke now that HE shells are free

T-54 is busted

[cloud hound]

mad overpowered T54

[halcyon bear]

What should be the load out on the derp t49

[ornate lava]

Im the only one that reports issues with the ARL V39 shots hitting the target and not dealing any damage or damaging the tank at all?

[lyric copper]

youre probably not penning?

[ornate lava]

Its very rare but sometimes happens

[lyric copper]

yeah nah give a replay

[ornate lava]

Ok

Maybe Im just pinging but normaly that wouldnt happen twice

[charred stream]

how do you drive M V YoH its so trash

[wise moth]

Run the 2 shot gun, and then slam peek a hulldown and slam people for 900. Rinse and repeat

[charred stream]

nah i went for dpm with the 300 clip

why is it so bad, i thought its good at hull down

my average in this trash of tank is 1366 and 35% WR for 17 games

M III Yoh has 55.68% and 2.1k average

[tardy yacht]

Reverse hull-down VK 90.01 (P) 🙃

[violet timber]

It gets to 10 degrees, but has the common reverse hulldown issue of being backwards when pushed on

[charred stream]

this tank is complete trash

[violet timber]

VK90?

[charred stream]

m 5 yoh

[violet timber]

It’s a meh tank overall

[charred stream]

i think its complete trash, bad dpm, GD but very bad turret profile and very slow

[plucky summit]

It's not complete trash

[charred stream]

my average in its pre tier is 50% better

[violet timber]

It’s relatively slow, but the 3 shot gun has been buffed quite a bit To the Point where it’s actually relatively good

[charred stream]

i hope M VI Yoh is better

[plucky summit]

M-VI-Yoh is quite similar, so your L

[violet timber]

Well it’s pretty much better in all aspects

[charred stream]

i hope so because i got said that its better than kran

[valid gale]

5 yoh has a bad turret profile??? Quit pointing your gun down too much

[violet timber]

Kran is better than Yoh right now, but Yoh is more fun

[plucky summit]

Pointing the gun down isn't the main problem against most tier 9s

[charred stream]

your turret is only strong towards the tank you are looking at

[plucky summit]

There are very few tanks that reliably block shells with their turret when they don't face the shooter :l

[charred stream]

M III Yoh was godlike

[wise moth]

Use the big gun. It’s totally pointless with the 3 shell gun

[violet timber]

The 2 shot has way too much downtime

[valid gale]

It’s the same as a Tvp and 4005

[plucky summit]

Downtime to allow you to make actually smart decisions in battle B)

[violet timber]

25 seconds of waiting is a lot

[charred stream]

The MM is being trash too

[valid gale]

💀

[violet timber]

I think I may be seeing where your issues are coming from…

[plucky summit]

Yeah, I hate it when matchmaker matches me with players on my skill level 👀

[charred stream]

For reference

[valid gale]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-lol-crying-laughing-omg-gif-16938640

[plucky summit]

Man boutta disprove Bushka's 30-40-30 statement

[violet timber]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-cringe-gif-26303769

[plucky summit]

I must ask

How many battles have you played on your account?

[valid gale]

I always always tell this never buy a tank for the exact price

[tardy yacht]

da heck is that supposed to mean

[charred stream]

390

[plucky summit]

That explains a LOT

[charred stream]

what exactly?

[plucky summit]

Now I have to ask the others if bot MM is up to tier 8

[charred stream]

i dont think that thats on me friend

on different platform my wn8 is at 3k and i do possess the knowledge, but even if my perfomance is bad due the tank being at stock hella trash, it shouldnt be at 30%

[plucky summit]

I mean, you could've been just farming the enemy bots up to tier 9 where I believe bots certainly stop

[charred stream]

these "bots" kinda love to do lemming train and yolo

ist way more frequent than on pc and console, especially at high tier

tho my wr is at 30% there my survival is at 27% for some reason XD

[valid gale]

If you don’t know what that means I don’t know what to say

[plucky summit]

Since most losses involve your death, it's not surprising

Also I'm talking about actual BOTS

[charred stream]

yes but that i dont waste myself in most cases

[onyx raven]

Dude, your stats are awful. I don’t think it’s matchmaking’s fault.

[tardy yacht]

I'm dead serious how do you not buy something for the exact price? is there a loophole?

[charred stream]

stats are indeed trash but are these stats an equivalent to the WR? and that if we win once im among those who survived? most of the time im currently Low tier and up to close the whole time its a lemming, what do you suggest me to do in that piece of stock trash

[tardy yacht]

@valid gale what does it mean to "not buy a tank for its exact price." I think you should rephrase your statement

[onyx raven]

Have you heard the phrase “Never play a stock tank”? Here’s a prime example of that. Also, you should still realize that your stats suck. Horribly.

[valid gale]

He has 90k remaining if you take literally one second to think about it he bought it for the exact price 6,100,000 as evidence by it being bone stock no upgrades and incomplete crew

[plucky summit]

Well it's the M-V-Yoh unless you meant that as an example for the future

[valid gale]

He has sub 400 battles he’s a freshie

[charred stream]

cant remember that you have such a bad wr for that, usually bad player are around a win rate of 40-45%

[plucky summit]

You manage to deal 4 shots of damage per battle on average

With a 3-rounder

[charred stream]

yep once a clip is done im done since im victim of yolo "bots" and mates arent helping even thougth im right beside them

its accuracy is too horrible to snipe propery like in M III Yoh

[plucky summit]

Yeah seems you need some equipment and a full crew

But I guess you fXP'd your way to the M-V-Yoh

[charred stream]

nope

got many Times 5 xp booster and every win its 10-14k xp

[night citrus]

mans getting results like me but im playing the chinese light tank

[charred stream]

is its pen bad?

[plucky summit]

Most certainly

[night citrus]

look wut I got in my chinese light tank

[plucky summit]

From tier 6 to 10:
132 AP -> 155 AP -> 194 AP -> 227 AP -> 230 APCR

[lyric copper]

https://tenor.com/view/cod-mw2-cod-mw2ghost-cod-ghost-ghost-stare-stare-gif-27067874

[night citrus]

oof i remember a week or so ago, ppl said to go for the 121 instead of 132, but im sooooo cloooooseee

sadly it cant really snipe well

[cloud hound]

bruh how you so good at the game

most my tanks have like 50-70%wr

[plucky summit]

Shoot enemy, don’t get shot back, profit 😎

[kind flicker]

who says hes good? maybe he played a lot

[cloud hound]

bro makes it sound so easy💀😭

[night citrus]

play with trackpad, yolo for memes, camp when lazy

[plucky summit]

Playing a lot is kind of the way to get good 🙃

[cloud hound]

and dude somehow gets 84% even while yoloing

[night citrus]

well dont yolo every game, just yolo some when its getting desperate

[cloud hound]

ohhh when desperate that makes sense

[night citrus]

usually for light tanks, I always full send middle for the first 2 minutes of the game

[cloud hound]

i use t54 but i usually go med, then flank behind them

should i go medium side even if no ones coming along with me?

[night citrus]

idk, na random battle playstyle > everything else

[cloud hound]

like e.g all my teammates go heavyside, enemies have 2 mediums and no tanks have been spotted yet

[wise moth]

Nahhhhh

All YOLO all the time. If you just count the number of tanks, and your side has more tanks than the enemy, YOLO. EZ 55% WR guranteed

[plucky summit]

Yes, subtract 1 from your team

[cloud hound]

alr ill try doin that later

[night citrus]

LOL, best advice

rip late for class now 😐

[cloud hound]

man im in class rn💀

[plucky summit]

Y’all some bad kids

[cloud hound]

doin trigonometry but this stuff come in thru ear and come out thru other ear

[plucky summit]

I can “tutor”

[cloud hound]

i mean i get sine and cosine, just the circle trigonometry with all the radian fraction with the pi in em

[kind flicker]

L, im on spring break

[cloud hound]

spring break just ended for me lol

guys does anyone other than me love the nightmare in gravity battles

[plucky summit]

Same

Pi is just the value of a 180 degree arc length with radius 1

[cloud hound]

nah man ik the 2pi = 1 circle but like find the exact value of -5pi/12 gave me brain death

man i supposed to be smart cuz im asian💀

[kind flicker]

are you failing your math class?

[plucky summit]

Just a silly stereotype, we all strugglin 😎

-5pi/12 is easy to convert to degrees, at least

[cloud hound]

nah man chillin on an A

[misty wing]

memorizing the trig identities is the only hard part imo
derivatives involving trig functions is also annoying later on

[kind flicker]

lucky, im failing my math at a 28%

[plucky summit]

You can get anywhere with the Pythagorean theorem

[cloud hound]

degrees ez, cosine is... well yeah

[plucky summit]

Think of the unit circle like a Cartesian plane graph, cosine is just x, sine is just y

I’m not gonna keep explaining it here for the sake of the channel :p

[cloud hound]

yeah me too ima go back to tank conversation

[misty wing]

what's the best line added since PBR (yohs)
and by best I mean the most well implemented, not the strongest

[plucky summit]

The implication that any are well implemented 👀

They’re intentionally not well implemented, by any measure of balance

[cloud hound]

wait i understand now, my brain just flashbacked into class from 2 weeks ago, thanks yall ima go back to work

but before that ima say the nightmare in gravity battles is so dang fun

[plucky summit]

Good luck

[cloud hound]

just got it checked with my friends, it was wrong

[night citrus]

@plucky summit u know stats? Like statistics

[plucky summit]

As a class? No

[night citrus]

Rip

[misty wing]

I took an econ class where we did mostly statistics

[plucky summit]

Yeah I barely passed Cal B then switched colleges and majors

[lyric copper]

prefer mechanics to stats

[thorny smelt]

F-test
T-test
1 sample test
2 sample test
Chi square
One-way and two-way ANOVA

[misty wing]

stuff like that yeah

[cloud hound]

i cant say i dont like the pharaoh, its really nice

[tardy yacht]

That tank is straight cancer and shouldn't exist

[cloud hound]

wdym?

like in like a too op way, or like a this tank sucks way, or in like a most teammates who use this tank are literally bots way

[tardy yacht]

Armor that is way too strong for its tier

[plucky summit]

What? Lol

[cloud hound]

nahhhhh

pharaoh has a slight slanted hull so it's vulnerable on flat terrain

[plucky summit]

It's cursed to have an easy-prammo turret and a deck cliff that you can always shoot when it's not hulldown

[cloud hound]

if you said the same thing to a skoda t45 story would be different

hulldown pharaoh is really nice, in the creek map bring the pharaoh up the bridge thing to hide lower plates and hulldown like a boss

[cloud hound]

most balanced halloween tank imo

[tardy yacht]

deck cliff?

[plucky summit]

Just the two rises in the hull roof
That's what I mean

[cloud hound]

seriously tho dont use a pharaoh in flat maps, it will ruin your life

[tardy yacht]

Ah I see what you mean.

[violet timber]

Titan H-N takes that title

[tardy yacht]

Blitz needs to fix whatever da heck that floating barrel tomfoolery that is

[plucky summit]

It's not that impactful at all

The gun itself is 0mm

[cloud hound]

i couldnt argue with that one, no one remembers that one halloween tank

[violet timber]

I love my H-N

[plucky summit]

Titan H-N is my favorite tier 7 to look at

405mm gun btw

[cloud hound]

it looks like a boss

speaking of titan tanks how good were those titan t-54s

[plucky summit]

Meh

[cloud hound]

dang, still those titan tanks have the coolest little gimmicks when they have em

[plucky summit]

Wotinspector doubling the hull plates while taking away the frontal turret plates lol

[tardy yacht]

abomination

[violet timber]

Speaking of abominations, I made a Tiger 1/2 last night in sprocket

[tardy yacht]

👀 lemme see

[plucky summit]

I should totally draw up a tank design that I'd want to drive around in

[onyx raven]

No, because the HN-D is just awful

[plucky summit]

It's really not

It only looks awful because it's balanced

[violet timber]

Hehehehe

[plucky summit]

My brother in Christ

That's a Lansen C

[violet timber]

With more armor and a 128mm gun

[plucky summit]

That legitimately looks like something I'd draw though

[violet timber]

I just use sprocket because I can't draw

[misty wing]

what about the Titan 54-d

[violet timber]

Relatively good, the added armor works well

[balmy compass]

German Lansen C!?

Me two favorite things have been put together!!

[violet timber]

It's quite large and heavy to be a med lol

[cloud hound]

man the medjay has the most broken armor in tier v

2120 dmg blocked, im sure like 90% of all players can play better medjay than me

[plucky summit]

You do be fighting some bots, perhaps

[dapper violet]

To be fair, its red against standard

[cloud hound]

yeah, the usual tier 5 and 4 bots

[plucky summit]

Tier 5 is one of the most unbalanced tiers x-x
Medjay is no counter to that

[cloud hound]

the poor matilda who tried to pen me

[plucky summit]

If Matilda just pressed 2 it would have a breeze x-x

[cloud hound]

bro wasnt even a bot💀

f2p people like us are too dum to buy even a tiny bit of prem ammo cause they so expensive

[plucky summit]

Every tier 5 they're releasing are just having cracked potential damage

[balmy compass]

Can’t wait for the Churchill VIII to be added!

[plucky summit]

May I have the account name?
L
I was hoping to get the Blitz account dealt with too

[balmy compass]

Oh rip

[plucky summit]

I guess he could have lied and false ban someone else's account, so it's probably better that he didn't say

[tardy yacht]

Imagine if the Type 71 had +20°/-10° gun constraints with hydropneumatic suspension

[plucky summit]

Okay so now you're just copy-pasting with different tanks :/

[tardy yacht]

No

[plucky summit]

Eh, same difference

[tardy yacht]

Why did the Swedish heavy tank line get screwed over with their gun depression. Why do they only have 9° instead of 12°

[safe cedar]

9° is still good

[tardy yacht]

No duh. But they had 12° therefore they deserve 12°

[safe cedar]

They also went 45kph+ with medium tank mobility...

[tardy yacht]

I gotta say that their current mobility is TERRIBLE

[kind flicker]

give kran 12' of dep

[safe cedar]

it's good enough, plus they have solid reverse speed.

[plucky summit]

It's almost like being god-tier hulldown with only like 3 rivaling guns is unbalanced

[safe cedar]

Kran can do so much more than hulldown. It Essentially fills the niche the old 50b left behind.
Pound for pound kranvagn is honestly better than T57 heavy.

[plucky summit]

Of course you say pound for pound

Kranvagn is tiny :p

[kind flicker]

i was honeslty surprised when i did the grind and found out how small emil1 is

[safe cedar]

size isn't everything. Lmao, don't take that out of context.

[kind flicker]

honeslty its pretty big, almost huge

[plucky summit]

Really?

[balmy compass]

Compared to a Sherman yes

[safe cedar]

Sherman is taller...

[potent marten]

Ehhh still prefer the t57 for some situations tho

Like quickly clipping out someone

[kind flicker]

true tho kran can clip and still hold with its autoreloader

[potent marten]

Yeah but u have to wait 30 seconds after doing 1.2k

But having a flexible clip is rly nice

[kind flicker]

kran can reload a shell in 9 sec and easly hold a side with its autoreloader unlike 57 with once it shoots its useless for 20 sec

[potent marten]

12.5 sec* shell interclip

[tardy yacht]

Blitz WG needs to remove shell reload boost for FV4005

[foggy surge]

#coming-soon message
Is this actually coming as a legendary camo? If so, is that how exactly it will be?

Since it is "Deathstar" there should be green not red on the gun.

[misty wing]

I wish they'd nerf Kran in some ways to give it better mobility and 12 degrees of gun depression

[vast elk]

What's wrong with kran's mobility?

[safe cedar]

Like basically remove the hull armour and gun handling?

[misty wing]

I'm thinking hull armor and intra clip to 4 seconds, and remove the super consumables

[frail dagger]

Su-100Y is like 10 tonnes heavier IIRC

Or that might be one of the emils that weighs 55 tonnes

[kind flicker]

emil 1 is 28 tonnes and kran is 44 tonnes

[frail dagger]

FV-4202 like the cent5/1

?

[swift arrow]

NO!

[frail dagger]

No?

[night citrus]

yes 🙂

[solid gate]

Why would you do that? That removes so much of the fun of it.. Nothing more fun then dealing 1600+ in just 5,4 sec... And it's not op, so there is no real reason to do that

[frail dagger]

Huh ??

[wooden loom]

Is the Lorraine 40t pay to win?

[copper swan]

not really, it's kinda bad premium tank

[wooden loom]

It’s been one of my favorites, aced it twice in 3 days

While I say that the ASTRON is much better, the Lorraine just feels way more dynamic to use

[onyx raven]

Eh, the Lorraine is much better than the ASTRON. It’s decent, but saying it’s P2W is like saying the Panzer 58 is OP.

I… I literally said that. Do you not know what analogies and implications are?

[wooden loom]

One of my favorite uses for it is traveling to flank heavy side but end up winning a brawl against a tiger 2 who happened to be caught out in the middle

I’m definitely not the best at it though, struggled to get the hang of it at first

Then again, I was like, 12 when I bought it with a gift card I got as a Christmas gift, so I definitely wasn’t smart back then

[violet timber]

Astron is definitely stronger than the Lorraine lol

[balmy compass]

Facehugging

[sharp quail]

Obj. 260 is best hevium if it had 3 more deg of gun depression

[civic sentinel]

is the e75 has superior armor then e100?

[violet timber]

No

[solid gate]

God I wish

[civic sentinel]

But when i fight e 100 with e75 face to face all his ammo Richocet

[balmy compass]

That E 100 has alot of skill issue then

[civic sentinel]

Is it worth it to continue grinding for it seems like it has many weaks point from the front track, bottom front armor and it's front turret can easily penetrated with premium shell

[onyx raven]

It also has great alpha, decent side armour, a great UFP, the turret can angle, and it can ram.

[plucky summit]

I think you just wanted an excuse to post that image

[sharp quail]

Monkey

[misty wing]

Nah, ASTRON >>> Lorraine

I didn't realize rat already said that, oops

[thorny smelt]

@exotic fog

[exotic fog]

The things people post

🫤

[fiery lark]

What’s the best Chinese branch to go for

[pulsar sinew]

113

[sharp compass]

you know the Kampfpanzer 50 t key's that you can buy, one of them is for 1,000 gold, if I bought one today, is that the only time I will get to buy the key with gold or does it come back each day?

[copper swan]

check in game

[solid gate]

M1a2 abrams plz

[rain escarp]

What are meta tier 10s in Blitz?

[cursive wolf]

60tp, tvp, kran (kinda) yoh, is-7

[cursive wolf]

each day after reset it comes back

[thorny smelt]

Kranvagn ❤️

[wispy trench]

Based on tour.....

[misty wing]

I don't think Yoh is meta anymore, although I don't follow comp too closely

[violet timber]

It isn’t Meta anymore

[misty wing]

Neither is Dehya

[lyric copper]

Waifu > meta

[violet timber]

^^^

[misty wing]

Well Yoh is one of the worst waifu in blitz, so I'm glad

[ruby juniper]

Leopard 2a6 pls

[wise moth]

T57 is pretty much just better than YoH in every way now

[flat aspen]

i already have 62a and was wondering if i should go for leo1 or stb1?

[violet timber]

Both are good

[flat aspen]

which one is more fun?

[violet timber]

Leo 1 is more fun, STB is more consistent

[flat aspen]

cuz i was searching for a med/light with good gun depression

[flat aspen]

thx ill go with leo then, i suppose it's more skill based than stb

[undone star]

Both are but stb is easier to play

[solid gate]

Leo 1 is harder to play cuz it has no armour unlike most t10 meds. just be careful of your surroundings

[valid gale]

That applies to all meds

[solid gate]

depending on the tank your using.

[young fern]

What is the best tank in currently the shop (not tech tree) because earlier few days i buy the is 6 but it is not so strong, I have 150€ to spend

[dapper violet]

Vk 168!!!

Its amazing at blocking damage obviously, and has the most hp out of all tier 8s!! (Dont) buy it now!!!

[dapper violet]

Buy the kpz 50 with crates!!! I have no idea how much its worth, and no idea how good it is, but if its in crates it must be good!!!!

[gusty fiber]

The best tank is hard to say. Everyone plays differently and tank driving is often better or worse in different scenarios. Orient yourself more to tanks similiar to that tanks you like to drive in the tech tree.

[half crypt]

Skoda T50 is the worst medium tanķ ever bruhh

[balmy compass]

O-47, STG, T-44-100:
Allow us to introduce ourselves

[half crypt]

Okay T-34-100 is SkodaT50's brother and they both sucks

[flat aspen]

is5?

[kind flicker]

is5 is a heavy

[flat aspen]

wow im blind

[half crypt]

Yeah and Is5 has a decent armor with better fire rate

[rugged gale]

hull down meta is making this game dumb

ppl prefer to stay hulldown on a place without moving waiting for something to happen than learn how to move around the map and take advantage of the short minute match that blitz is made for.

[onyx raven]

Skill issue

[half crypt]

Okay I'll give you a point for that but the tank is still sucks

[onyx raven]

Not really

[plucky summit]

There are like 0 things that they characteristically share, other than being bad tanks

[lyric oriole]

I like T-34-100

It's like Rudy but not bad

[tepid socket]

Some new maps would help. I think a lot of the problem is that everybody knows where to go hull down for their tanks because they’ve played the same maps for years so they’ve had time to test every spot with every tank. There is also very little real opportunity to make use of the element of surprise, especially with the small maps and short round times. Ambushes usually happen at the start of a battle or often not at all in this game and it’s incredibly easy to predict where an enemy will end up once they become undetected again. A new map each season would certainly freshen things up. A rework of most maps once or more a year would also help. I’d personally much rather have that than a new tank every month, especially since half of the “new” tanks aren’t actually new and are just fantasy rebrands of tech tree tanks we already have. There are plenty of opportunities to switch up the maps periodically like moving the train location in Faust or flooding the lakebed in canal during the rainy season. What I’m saying is that things need to be more unpredictable or people will continue to settle into those same spots they already know will protect them. You’ll never put an end to defilading though (going hull or turret down). That’s just the nature of armored warfare

[dapper violet]

I mean the job of lights is to ensure ambushes never happen

[worldly grotto]

how good is action x? is it worth the 7500 gold?

[kind flicker]

its alright

[lyric copper]

the better and obvious solution is to add actual hulldown weakspots

[tepid socket]

What do you mean “hulldown weakspots?” As in, locations which look like they would protect you but don’t? They have those already and people rarely use them. They would be the things like trucks, barrels, and log piles which people normal run over. Good for HE protection tho

[lyric copper]

as in actual cupolas

not the clown 60tp cupola that gets hidden by its -7 degrees

ACTUAL. FREAKING. WEAKSPOTS.

[tepid socket]

Ah gotcha. Yeah I do also feel like it’s gotten a little crazy with the need to cupola snipe all the time. Even though that isn’t uncommon in armored warfare, it feels way too much the norm here. Does sort of narrow the scope of gameplay and I’m not sure about the protection most cupolas offer IRL, but my understanding so far is that it’s not much and never really has been. T34 needs a major cupola nerf. Maybe also Löwe

[ocean pivot]

if you can get into a good angled spot where you can peek quickly without being penned. Yes. If you prefer high single shot damage tanks. No.

[dapper violet]

Ignoring the fact that hitting the cupola gives off the same vibe as sniping the e100 view bar

[undone star]

i wouldnt buy it as it doesnt come up with equipment or anything, just the tank for 7500 gold isnt a great deal

[simple flame]

Can wg release kpz 50T to shops i am sure there will be many buyers

[kind flicker]

There are lockbox for it rn

[simple flame]

3.0 chance dont make me laugh

[kind flicker]

You can still get it

[simple flame]

They dont sell the keys for gold

[simple flame]

i already buyed the 1k deal @undone star

[undone star]

well that makes sense, maybe they refill every day or idk

[simple flame]

and there is no guarante that i got the kpz 50t for 26k gold

[undone star]

well these are lockboxes, they shouldnt guarantee you to get anything on the first try

[simple flame]

i tried

i got useles scams and 10 Kanonenjgp105 buildplans

[undone star]

(maybe you shouldnt buy crates)

[kind flicker]

It's not a scam, it tells you what you may get, and you bought it still

[simple flame]

yeah iknow

[simple flame]

3.0chance is like a gamble 40 euros

[kind flicker]

You knew the chances and still bought, only yourself to blame

[simple flame]

wg have to bring to stores

[undone star]

i bet kpz 50t would reach 25k gold full equipped,its a rare tank that almost nobody has in their garage, nowadays it wont be sold for gold sooner since it just came out for lockboxes

[simple flame]

22.5k without Equipment good deal

[undone star]

yeah maybe (for people that can afford it without caring that much)

[simple flame]

i have 26k gold for kpz 50t

[undone star]

well maybe you should wait for an auction on christmas or black friday, i dont think it will get sold soon, maybe they sell it on the christmas auction though

[simple flame]

thats long time

[undone star]

yeah thats why you should look into anything else, if i had 26k gold i wouldnt wait much for a specific tank

[simple flame]

yeah ok i can also buy carro 45t

[kind flicker]

thats not coming any time soon either

[undone star]

yeah carro is also pretty rare lol

[simple flame]

i can wait then

if one of them comes to shops remember ping me guys

[kind flicker]

if you can wait for carro then wait for kpz

[undone star]

ehh ill try to remember, probably wouldnt

[simple flame]

ill buy the first tank of both who comes to shop

The important thing is to come to the store.

[haughty forge]

How do you play e50m

🫥

[radiant vale]

you shoot, you fight against enemy lights or medium, and catch the timing to charge against them and use your big fat body to ram them(x)

[haughty forge]

If you dont happen to have more contructive and proper feedback, please refrain from speaking

[undone star]

well if you average green wn8 on e50m there isnt much to construct about,just get better before you play t10

[haughty forge]

And you my friend, should perhaps learn to read everything in the image before saying something. Again, just dont say anything if what ypure gonna say is a sentence made of 5 words

[undone star]

???? lol ok goodluck getting an advice that isnt get better because thats all u gotta do if u average 1244 on a t10

[haughty forge]

What I’m saying is that what you’re stating is plainly obvious, provides no useful information. Seconly , had you looked at the image, you would have noticed the difference of wr between the tiers and wouldn’t (hopefully ) have said just get better before tier 10. @undone star

[feral lark]

Iiiii dont think you should get so defensive after getting advice from well meaning people, especially after you specifically asked for that advice

[undone star]

yeah its kinda obvious but thats also the point, its obvious you gotta improve on t9-t10 since those stats are almost below average and your stats for e50m already are so if it is obvious then theres no useful information, just improve from your mistakes and go up

[feral lark]

A lot of doing well in this game has to do with knowing your tank and your skill level, what you can and cant get away with, etc, which mostly comes from experience. Theres tips for how to play a tank (which for the E50M is to bully the meds and lights) but past that its just experience and learning through gameplay

[languid vector]

I just got a free kpz50t, how do I play it and is it good?

[meager elm]

[native hearth]

Is action x good?

[onyx raven]

Not really. The gun is really odd, low alpha but really high rate of fire. Armour is only good on the turret, and mobility is higher than most Tier 8 heavies. It’s hard to get the hang of.

[haughty forge]

Man just said not really. Has it been nerfed or something? It was considered one of the best around 2021

[lyric copper]

just play the E50M

[simple flame]

i have it i need the collector one

[lyric copper]

because the tank’s weaknesses has been learned over and over

the tech tree Cearn is better due to having both reactive and super speed boost

[haughty forge]

But tech tree one has no armour

[lyric copper]

“If you rely on armour, you’ve already lost”

[haughty forge]

Listen man im not arguing the philosophy. Has it been nerfed? @lyric copper

[lyric copper]

no

not really, you’ll expose your sides which can be penned through the tracks

the best way is is to be hulldown for as long as possible

[haughty forge]

Yes, however, i dont recommend purchasing it for 7500. It is fun, turret has a very nice armour with a gun thats made for dpm, the speed is alright and hull armour can sometimes bounce shots from medium/lights. The turret does have a small exposed cupola though( its very small) so you cant sit in one spot without movement for close quarter combat.

[lyric copper]

it’s not a smal cupola, it’s massive

[languid vector]

Ace farming tank? How do I play it?

[meager elm]

Wdym

[languid vector]

Troll armor, dps gun with good pen but crap alpha. Very good hulldown but hull armor is made of paper. Fairly fast too. Play it like you'd play the T34 heavy.

[lyric copper]

do you have the following tanks:

Leopard 1
T-62A

It has a playstyle between those two

[languid vector]

I've got the Leo 1 and 121b if that's a decent comparison. No t62. Can you explain in depth?

[meager elm]

Ever tried the centurion mk 5/1 racc dingo it has tlly good armour on hills and the depression allows you to win all hill fights

[crystal ibex]

Я русский

[languid vector]

So run around, hulldown, fire, and relocate to fire again?

[lyric copper]

it’s a hybrid between the Leopard 1 and T-62A in a way. The playstyle is closer to the T-62A, or 121B, so play it in a similar way to how you play your 121B

[meager elm]

U know middlesburg and how there are tonnes of hills you can just pop in and out then ur impenetrable it's just the lower plate which is weak

That is how I can hold of swarms of enemies bc 5 second reload time is op

[languid vector]

The gun has bad pen tho isn't it? I have to get close

[meager elm]

No it has ridiculous pen but comes with low dmg per shot and hight dpm

[languid vector]

I see

[meager elm]

Like a spray and pray but you can do it safely

[lyric copper]

you will likely get prammo spammed though

[haughty forge]

Eh im speaking from experience, with added 10 degree of gun dep it feels smaller

[thorny smelt]

Is 226 mm AP pen low for you for a tier 8 heavy tank?

[languid vector]

Bro what are you on? I'm talking about the kpz50t, it's a tier x medium

[thorny smelt]

I thought ya'll talking about the Caernarvon AX. My bad.

[languid vector]

all g lol but you had me really confused there. gaslighted me into thinking I was schizo for a sec

[astral glacier]

The most underrated med in the game (10)?

[lyric copper]

Obj 140

[astral glacier]

I think is progetto

[balmy compass]

WZ-121

[haughty forge]

121

[elfin girder]

121 for sure

[undone star]

🤷‍♂️

[undone star]

That camo looks really good, if i was wargaming i would remove those sandbags of the turret since they hide a bit of the cupola, would really be a nice camo since they are adding more military themed camouflages

[solid gate]

I like the sandbags

[undone star]

Yeah they look nice, maybe if they move them to somewhere else itd be good

[solid gate]

I like them cause it covers the hatch and stuff

[lyric copper]

i mean on blitz, the extra attachments disappear when you look at the tank, so it wouldnt be much of a problem

[undone star]

Oh mb i forgot about that since i dont play on medium or high graphics, then the camo would look sick at it is

[lyric copper]

would prefer the Berlin urban camo they had

look at it....

Chieftain Mk.6 Brigadier

[balmy compass]

Chieftain in Minecraft camo

[tardy yacht]

ew roblox camo

[wheat cloud]

tips on playing foch 155?

idk if hes got good he or not

[tardy yacht]

Foch 155 fell off a bit from the extreme nerf

[wheat cloud]

yeah i know