vehicles-discussion

[thorn folio]

It's a 15cm/150mm not 105 but yeah

[thorn bane]

armor disappears when Heavy that has decent penetration uses Hesh/apcr

[violet timber]

HESH?

[kind flicker]

British premium round with a bit less pen but more damage than tegular round

[violet timber]

I am aware 😂

[kind flicker]

But hesh has less pen than a regular round so I don't think it would work better on a heavy

[chrome turtle]

Isn’t Abraham Van Helsing Dutch? Even though he played in Dracula

[kind flicker]

I'm talking about the double barreled tank not the actor

[chrome turtle]

I know, but the Dracula and Helsing tanks are both inspired by the Novel characters. Thus the names

[kind flicker]

And?

[chrome turtle]

And so the Helsing isn’t really a Romanian tank

[kind flicker]

It's not Romanian In the game

[chrome turtle]

You were replying to this guy right?

[kind flicker]

No I was replying to the double barreled tank convo

[chrome turtle]

Ahh, explains

[faint goblet]

Anyone want to know something about the Scavenger that I'm willing to bet the majority of the blitz community doesn't know about?

[plucky summit]

Tell away

[dapper violet]

tell us your wisdom

[plucky summit]

Even if I know what he says, I guess that wouldn't nullify his claim

Is it the name of the modules? The turret being a tier 8 module? The RC 513 engraved on its lower plate?

[plucky summit]

Unless you're an AMX 50 B, APCR won't have a great time with any Type 71 that uses Enhanced Armor

You could argue that FV215b, Super Conqueror, and VK 90.01 (P) have a nice chance, as long as you don't actually go for the drive wheel

[faint goblet]

@dapper violet @plucky summit alright, did you know that the Scavenger is actually a light tank in disguise? Not just any light tank though. The Scavenger is the PC version of the Amx Elc Bis.

[plucky summit]

Scav's too big to make that comparison

[dapper violet]

w h a t

[faint goblet]

Not really. Heres why. The Scavenger is a little bigger thsn the Elc but, it still sits slightly lower than the rest of the tier Vs in the game and only slightly larger in proportions to the elc.

[plucky summit]

Give me a moment.

[dapper violet]

Double checked the stats: its a horribly nerfed version of the pc elc bis

[plucky summit]

Hmmm

[violet timber]

I’ve heard some crazy takes, but this one…

[plucky summit]

Like, I can understand if you generalize tier 5 mediums as the Shermans and Germans, but still

[faint goblet]

Its going to take me a while to type everything so just wait and you'll see.

[plucky summit]

One could argue that Gargoyle can also fit, as it may be taller than Scav, but it's also thinner

[violet timber]

Scav’s armor profile is also much, much better than the ELCs

[faint goblet]

Alright so for starters, the Scavenger is by far the most Unique collectors vehicle on blitz. It was added 4 to 5 years ago during the halloween event where Mad Games was added to blitz for the first time as well. What makes it unique is that it was the first tank added since the removal of tanks from the tech tree going from tiers l to Vl, that both old and new players could get simply by playing the game. Most of the current collector vehicles that have been added to the game so far have mainly been based off of the RL designs of tanks that are already in the game, however the Scavenger while it is a fake tank is pretty cool and unique for the design of its chassis and turret. Originally the Scavenger was supposed to be a light tank and was supposed to be able to reach the same speeds and have the same manuverablity as the Amx Elc Bis. However WG decided to make some last second changes to the tank before it was added that left players

[plucky summit]

Pz. III/IV more unique imo

[faint goblet]

disappointed mainly because it didn't move as fast as what was shown in the teaser videos which WG has long since deleted. WG also made a few other last second changes to the Scavenger besides relabling it a medium instead of a light tank and reducing its mobility. The other changes made to the Scavenger include changing the specifications and stats of the second gun option for the  Scavenger which resulted in WG making a mistake when it was finally added resulting in the tanks 90mm gun being labled a 94mm howitzer that was fixed in an update later and the gun was given a BS low standard pen value of 94mm of armor and corrected to "90mm Howitzer" which has now been rebranded and named "Shell Thrower" in an attempt by WG to hide what the gun is. The last second change to the 90mm gun was that the standard pen values were reduced and the gun was made a howitzer making the Scavenger unique simply by the

fact that not only is it the only tier V medium tank to carry a 90mm gun, but it is also the only 90mm gun designated or classified as a 90mm howitzer in the game. The original 90mm gun believe it or not and should be a dead give away where the gun originates from since the original engine for the Scavenger was supposed to be the same as the Amx Elc Bis' tank, the 90mm was that of the 90mm off of the Elc bis, which the current tech tree Amx elc bis on blitz does not have. The other thing that makes the Scavenger the most unique collector vehicle in blitz is that it is currently the only collecotr vehicle that gives players the option to choose between two different guns, a 75mm gun, which also came off the Elc bis, and a 90mm gun. The Scavenger was supposed to be a test vehicle that would help WG determine if they should actually put some effort into balancing the Amx Elc Bis properly (news flash, WG hasn't done squat and abandoned the idea) by

seeing what would happen if they added the 90mm for the tech tree elc bis and made the Amx elc bis' turret fully traversable 360 degrees when equipped with the 75mm gun which they then tested again when they added the Y5 Elc Bis wch lead no where once again, and on top of that WG completely skipped over a perfect oppertunity to test and see what would happen of they gave an Elc Bis a 90mm gun and moved it to tier Vll.

[plucky summit]

SO you're arguing that they copypasted elc's stats before changing literally all of them?

[faint goblet]

Yes

[violet timber]

That would be great, if the ELC used a howitzer. It doesn’t, it uses a cannon.

[plucky summit]

That's very bad for arguing how similar it is to PC elc bis

[violet timber]

Currently, the Scav has nothing in common with the ELC aside from having a 90mm gun in some capacity

[faint goblet]

It wouldn't be the first time WG has done something like this.@violet timber read what I said that explains the howitzer, since you didn't I'll say it again. How does WG justify nerfing a gun? By WG logic, make it a howitzer. Howitzers have almost always had bad pen in the game.

[violet timber]

And by making it a howitzer, they have made it different.

[plucky summit]

Scav then continues to get overshadowed by Gargoyle, Nightmare, and High Score

[faint goblet]

Yes exactly

[violet timber]

Therefore, since it is different, your claim is false

[plucky summit]

"The Scavenger is the PC version of the Amx Elc Bis."

This is just flat out completing a statement with bullet holes everywhere in your evidence

[faint goblet]

If the Scav had its original stats and hadn't had its speed reduced and the changes made to its gun last second, we'd probably seeing a different and possibly better version of the Scav that WG deemed too Op.

[plucky summit]

I'd like to see it even try a T1 Heavy

[faint goblet]

Bullet holes everywhere while not reading the whole thing that ties everything together. Can't win an argument when people dont read.

[violet timber]

It’s original stats ≠ it’s current stats. Argument invalidated.

[plucky summit]

Y e a h

[violet timber]

You can’t win an argument with a poor thesis followed up by flawed evidence.

[plucky summit]

Not to mention that right now, Shellthrower is a 94mm cannon with 90mm of penetration

[faint goblet]

Not a 94mm howitzer. If you remember WG changed that in the following update after the Scavenger was released. Just because the stats don't add up doesn't invalidate an argument. Failing to read invalidates your argument.

[plucky summit]

🤔

[violet timber]

It is currently 94mm.

[faint goblet]

No its not. How long have you been playing?

[plucky summit]

Let me check

[plucky summit]

November 21, 2016 was when my account was created

I'd say the 94mm justified the 250 alpha, instead of the 225

[plucky summit]

And this is quite ironic, given the history of saying we didn't read 😋

World of Tanks Blitz itself disagrees with you, don't keep fighting it

[violet timber]

32-pdr? British tank?

[plucky summit]

Mk. 15, Mk. 21, and Mk. 11 for each respective shell

[tulip knot]

Howitzer holes

[plucky summit]

I'm gonna have fun with this

[violet timber]

Fake rounds it would seem, only 32-pdr tank gun ever made was for the tort and it didn’t even fire HEAT rounds 😂

[faint goblet]

Thats too bad seeing how couldn't manage to pay attention to what WG released in the following update given played long enough. I remember exactly what WG said in the update notes. Unfortunately I didn't to screen shot those notes.

[plucky summit]

Well, we're mainly sticking to the fact that Scavenger, as it is today, is very different to PC's elc bis

[violet timber]

Seems like the scavenger is meant to be a wasteland tank in the future, using a British 32-pdr gun that was never developed in our timeline

[tulip knot]

I’m not really on anyones side here but doesn’t challenger have a 32-pounder that does 300?

[plucky summit]

Indeed it does, also a 94mm that previously dealt 250 like Scav

[tulip knot]

Oh. When did that change happen?

[plucky summit]

Not long ago, but I can't tell you specifically when

[tulip knot]

K. I’ll look and see if I can find it on Blitzhangar

[violet timber]

I was talking irl but yes you are correct

[plucky summit]

Here we go.

[tulip knot]

Inspect function go crazy (jk idk how you did it)

[plucky summit]

Apple Pages :p

[kindred wren]

Hello, what‘s the fuss about?

Maybe I can offer a third, worse perspective

[plucky summit]

Here's where it begins

[dapper violet]

scavenger = pc elc bis

[fiery sage]

ok. Got a ? So wanna grind a tank. I dont have any chinese tank so thinkn the heavy line? Or the med line which is better

[kindred wren]

Hot take but ok, I feel what I‘d have said has already been said by others

[kindred wren]

If you want to grind the Chinese tech tree either go for the tank destroyers or the heavies first

Definitely make sure to grind the heavies before the mediums though otherwise the grind will be hell

[tulip knot]

The tier 10 heavy is really good despite being very underplayed

[fiery sage]

Two for heavy. Copy that

[tulip knot]

Actually scavenger is a reworked m60 given that it has the same top speed, same reverse speed, and a rounded turret and semi round hull

[violet timber]

🧠

[balmy compass]

so if I grinded the meds first will the heavy grind be easy

[kindred wren]

No

[balmy compass]

rip lol

[lilac mica]

lol

[kindred wren]

Well, it will be easier. Especially the IS-2 and WZ-110 will have their top engine and top gun researched, and the WZ-111 1-4 will have its top engine researched

So normally you need 759k xp for the whole line (assuming you start with the IS-2 researched), 435 out of which for the tanks and 324k for modules

If you ground the medium line before it‘s 602k in total, 435k for the tanks and 167k for modules

So the especially painful parts of stock grinding will be minimised quite a lot, especially because you already have most of the expensive modules. So maybe you can say that it‘s easy. I said no because the tier nine stock grind is still mostly there and it‘s not much fun XD

[ashen hull]

hello i have a question I play on Emil 2 but I think what equipment is better to install Can you please advise what is best to put on it? (sorry for the lack of commas and so on I write through a translator)

[balmy compass]

ic
is WZ-113 meta or strong?

[kindred wren]

Yes, I think you will enjoy it

[kindred wren]

WZ isn‘t meta but it‘s strong, the gun is just so much fun with the dpm

[lilac mica]

^^^ this
It performs very well in pubs, for 20 games, I have a WR of 65% with over 2500dmg

[shrewd garnet]

Is maus worth it

[balmy compass]

maybe I'll go for it after the Chinese lt's then

[lilac mica]

You really should

[kindred wren]

Personal preference but I always chose the left option, except with the bottom central one, there I chose right

[kindred wren]

Maus can be very rewarding, but it‘s awkward to play and you need to be able to read games so you can be where you need to be when you need to be there, otherwise it‘s just frustrating. So if you believe in your skill, by all means go ahead

[violet timber]

113 is becoming meta in 9.7

[ashen hull]

Big thanks

[misty wing]

Engine accelerator > improved control

[hoary thorn]

To late🤣 there was a lot of free XP spent on modules

[safe cedar]

Not necessarily

[misty wing]

It's only like a 1-2 degree per second improvement, which isn't worth sacrificing the engine power for

[safe cedar]

Not all tanks need the increased engine power, Foch 155 for example.

[small hinge]

How much is the t34 premium worth if i already have it? I cannon view it on my switch

[balmy compass]

Which T34

[solid gate]

Idk ab y'all but I feel like these Italian tds lack firepower but I could just be playing them wrong, the new reserve mechanic just also feels like a worse auto loader honestly

[thorn bane]

No

[dark schooner]

Man, I’m kinda struggling with the t54. I keep doing my job and dealing damage but I keep losing

I honestly have no idea what I could’ve done here

[neon sentinel]

Quick question, beside this 4 variants and the one in the English Tech Tree the Sherman Firefly is there anymore Sherman variants?!

[sleek apex]

There are a lot more variants ingame.

[neon sentinel]

@sleek apex do you have an exact number or a close one?

I haven't seen more, besides these ones

[sleek apex]

The others are former tech tree tanks and premium tanks.

T6E1 Grizzly, Ram II, Sherman V, M4A2E4, M4A3E2 Jumbo, Rudolph (Battlepass), M4A3E8 Fury, Y5 Firefly, M4/FL-10, and M4A1 Revalorisé.

Those are the other tanks that i can remember.

↓ Also that

[odd cove]

saunders firefly

[neon sentinel]

Yea, that covers up most of the them..thanks, Idk there was that much, I was thinking it was just a few of them...bruhhh

[kind flicker]

Fun fact, ram 2 is build on the m3 lee not sherman

[plucky summit]

You tell me M3 Lee and Sherman don’t share lots of hull similarities and I might chuckle

[violet timber]

M4 and M3 both being based on the M2 hull

[kind flicker]

I'm just saying the ram isn't a Sherman variant

[violet timber]

Ram is closer to the m4 in design than the M3

[kind flicker]

Yes but it's still not a m4 variant

[violet timber]

Well, you could consider it one by technicality

[shrewd garnet]

What’s the best German tank

[odd cove]

e100 for its sniping ability

[shrewd garnet]

What abt armor

[wild belfry]

E100 could angle,has better speed than maus and Technically bigger gun

[wild belfry]

T-14 heavy tank is Sherman close Cousin If you consider the similarity in terms of shape

[neon sentinel]

Yhea, i just took a look at it, they kinda similar...

[balmy compass]

The Grille

Although to be real, E 100 is probably the best all around
But if you really like sidescraping the VK 90 is your tank

[wild belfry]

If He choosing Tech tree one,i think E-100 should be His option

[shrewd garnet]

Well looks like months on getting a maus Chen was a waste

[tulip knot]

not fully, maus isnt terrible in gravity

[wild belfry]

And gravity was in december long time ago

[tulip knot]

it comes multiple times???

[wild belfry]

Yes i know,but poor for him since it was several month to come for it to back

[hollow sequoia]

maus is just depressing currently compared to the other 3 german superheavies

[shrewd garnet]

When we ever gonna get an Object 279 on the tech tre

[solid gate]

don't take away the only good thing about this game

[solid gate]

They not gonna add prob

[old vapor]

Object 726 (aka Obj. 279 Early) is probably a better choice than the og 279

[tulip knot]

Update 10.0

[balmy compass]

Chi-To-SPG:
SU-100Y:

[sleek apex]

Most (if not all) TDs ingame are also classified as Self Propelled Guns

[balmy compass]

Exactly

[timid scarab]

:Sadface:

😢

[safe cedar]

"Un aigle noir a plané sur la ville
Il a juré d'être victorieux
De tous côtés, les corbeaux se faufilent
Dans les sillons et dans les chemins creux

Mais tout à coup, le coq gaulois claironne
Cocorico, debout petits soldats
Le soleil luit, partout le canon tonne
Jeunes héros, voici le grand combat

Et Verdun, la victorieuse
Pousse un cri que portent là-bas
Les échos des bords de la Meuse
Halte là, on ne passe pas"

o7 you will be missed old comrade.

[signal musk]

what song is that

[lyric copper]

https://youtu.be/2-JogJ7UQHE

[ripe valve]

It's getting a nerf.

[neon sentinel]

Is this some kind of bug on the German Tech Tree? When you press the Tiger P, then research points for the Ferdi...are 150k, but if you leave the Tiger P research area, The research points for the Ferdi, are 77k

[lyric copper]

no, thats how its meant to be, WG dont want people going from Tiger P to Ferdi, they want Jpanther to Ferdi

this is just a thing from old WoTB...

[neon sentinel]

@lyric copper bro, I gotta say, it's hella confusing...also Ferdi ou JP?!

[lyric copper]

JP2. Ferdi is utterly outclassed

[neon sentinel]

Ight, it's grinding time ⌚ 🖐 @lyric copper ty bro

[kindred wren]

Ferdi outperforms the Jagdpanther 2 by performance

[lyric copper]

maybe because all the players say JP2, so more people play it, leading to a worse average perfomance

[kindred wren]

No, in terms of relative winrate

Sadly there aren‘t enough people playing either to make much of a statement beyond that

https://blitzanalysiz.com/update/9.5/8/tank-destroyers/

[plucky summit]

JPanther II is more like the Leopard 1 of the two. The armor is difficult to use but it’s certainly more capable of damage

[dark schooner]

That’s why I wasn’t a fan of the JP2. It could hardly bounce shots and was tall. Not great for urban maps. Could be that I just can’t play TDs though

[lyric copper]

if you rely on armour, you’ve already lost

[dark schooner]

Idk man I perform well in the lowe

[lyric copper]

also, if the JP2 uses its max gundep, the ST-1 with CS HEAT (374mm of pen) can’t pen the cheeks.

[dark schooner]

Yeah I just can’t position with TDs then. They’re my least played class of tank

[wise moth]

Yeah, but the number of positions where you can hide a hull as large as the JP2, while also using gun depression, AND being able to shoot the enemy with the rear mounted gun is pretty much 0

imo, it's a little disingenous to argue that the jp2 has armor

[lyric copper]

also just realised I was using E.Armour….

so guys, if the ST-1 is NOT using CS, and you’re using E.Armour, they can’t pen you when fully hulldown…

[plucky summit]

Lowe has good armor, and I rely on it too, sooooo

[lyric copper]

my point is that for most tanks, you will get penned, so you instead rely on cover, and your own skill to not take damage, instead of armour

[robust orchid]

Finally got the Type-71, should I get E-100 or JPz. E-100 next?

[tulip knot]

No armor best armor

[vagrant jasper]

any tips on playing the 121B?

[lyric copper]

Like a T-62A with more alpha, use reactive to troll other mediums into doing less damage (works best on Leo 1 players who will often have to prammo pen you)

[lilac mica]

You should get credits first and I would go for E-100

[robust orchid]

Thanks for the advice, I already got the E-75 researched, so it'll be a tad bit easier

[lilac mica]

E75 is a good tank it shouldn’t be a problem

[sudden ravine]

M-iv-y, what you lot think about it

[balmy compass]

American IS-3 Defender

[remote kindle]

Good the waiting time between shot is really slow but eh. Turret has some issues but eh. Normal yoh

[kind flicker]

The strongest turret cheeks of every yoh at t8 and below

[balmy compass]

The tier IX and X Yohs literally don’t have cheeks

[kind flicker]

Exactly my point

[frail dagger]

Just got the TVP VTU, stick everything, how do i do this machine?

[supple hearth]

Camp or Frontline

[frail dagger]

What do i research first besides turret? (I have the second gun from the T-34/100, engines and tracks maybe?

[supple hearth]

Grind the gun first

[robust orchid]

That reminds me, should I go for the turret and gun first or mobility?

[tepid stump]

definitely mobility, either way you getting penned on the turret

[plucky summit]

I'd shoot (heh) for the gun first, because you don't really need mobility for what you're supposed to be doing.

Your turret may be susceptible to TDs or prammo, but your gun mantlet can prevent penetrations. Being a good gun will at least have you contribute to the team some more, instead of just being able to drive around faster (last time I checked, that's not how you win games with an E 75)

[robust orchid]

I see, thanks for the advice guys, I was thinking of where to spend my free xp on the E-75 before buying it

[plucky summit]

It's a great tank for sidescraping, and bullying tier 8s. Trade as much as you can, and fight one target at a time

[tepid stump]

also did you get the top gun on the tiger 2 previously?

[robust orchid]

Yep, the L/68?

[short urchin]

whats a good premium for f2p

[robust orchid]

The Chimera and Löwe are pretty good tanks for grinding credits

[spice garnet]

If you looking for Strength only, go for MAUS line if you will.. It has more troll & badass armor & side scraping ability than E100 & JGPz E100.. On the cost of your speed

[robust orchid]

I can just grind either line since I already researched both the Mauschen and the E-75, although I should have saved that free xp to research the 12,8cm L50 gun instead

[restive parrot]

Wt heck is going on with the e50m armor profile…….it has an insane amount armor on top of turret……….they could put that on the sides of turret? Just for perspective…..no other heavy or medium comes even close to having that much armor on top of turret

[spice garnet]

Well Its actually a BUFF on U9.7 for Foch line..
Nuke-Nerfed for Type 71 line only.. Which is kinda sad

[restive parrot]

My best guess is that after changing the armor profile….e50m was under weight….so they just put the rest on top….. literally

[spice garnet]

MAUS line its the BEST for armor.. if thats if the only factor you are looking for. Forget about its speed

[restive parrot]

Stupid….. they plan on adding artillery or something?

[arctic steppe]

is there a way of seeing what shell velocity the SP I C has? it feels like I was throwing potatoes, even with AP

[misty wing]

foch tier 9 and 10 are getting butchered

[sacred needle]

Better than the 2018 version when it was insanely op imo

[misty wing]

and everything has been giga buffed since then to the point that it would honestly be kinda bad today

[sacred needle]

Mhm

[grim shell]

its called "dispersion on 100m" its mean how much your shell move away from the a pointed shot at that distance, the more it is the, worse it gets. also you should have gotten the kunze panzer at auction, its the better version of sp i c for only 2000 gold

[arctic steppe]

I mean shell velocity, aka the time a shell gets from point A to point B, in this case A is the gun and B is the enemy

also it's debatable if SP I C or kunze is better

[misty wing]

sp1c has some of the worst shell velocity in the game, and it's an underrated reason as to why it's so bad

[robust orchid]

SP I C has one of the worst shell velocities in the game, it's almost comparable to the American light tanks with 155mm guns, they're low pressure guns, that's why they have low velocity

[misty wing]

152mm*, and it's actually even worse

[pseudo swift]

someone explain to me why the bigger gun on wz 120 is 118k xp extra

+the track and engine modules combined are also around 100k

[strange thicket]

wz 120 just has a BS grind with too many unnecessary components

[robust orchid]

Grinding Chinese tanks are just a pain in the rear plate

[violet timber]

Actually it’s SP1C with it’s HE shells

[wild belfry]

Is that true that the Type 71 going to be nerfed soon???

[violet timber]

Yes

[old vapor]

for the cost of the foch line getting absolutely demolished

[violet timber]

Ngl, I think the changes are actually good, they just need the clip reload buffed

[old vapor]

they made foch 155's standard gun to have more dpm than it's autoloader

[thick trout]

Is that not a good thing?

[old vapor]

idk

[violet timber]

Auto loaders are meant to have bad dpm as a cost for having high burst damage

[thorny smelt]

I sense AMX 50 Foch B

[old vapor]

yikes

800 he damage on standard gun?

[misty wing]

If they want the Foch to have low alpha, they need to suck it up and change it to the Foch B with a 120mm. A 155mm doing 500 alpha makes no sense and it's dumb that so many same caliber guns (many of them also related to each other) have different alphas nowadays

[copper swan]

what are your opinions of updated foch and foch 155 update 9.7 rebalance?

[strange thicket]

the tier 9 change was unnecessary from the start but i guess now it is slightly different to to other high dpm TDs

[thorny smelt]

AMX 50 Foch B vibes

[old vapor]

I think they should add the M4 51 as tier 10 researchable

[thorny smelt]

It won't work because of the existence of AMX M4 modele 1954

[old vapor]

give it 120mm instead of 130mm

[copper swan]

given myself knowing wargaming for years, I figure out they would more likely introduce world of tanks tech tree tanks as a premium or collector tanks in blitz with some or none statistics changes

[misty wing]

It's a tier 9 in PC, why add it as a tier 10 lmao

[old vapor]

damn

[thorny smelt]

They have to formulate another fake to be added as the next tech tree line

[old vapor]

yeah

[sleek apex]

I would prefer a French medium line more than another heavy line.

[thorny smelt]

Batignolles-Chatillon char 25t:

[sleek apex]

That's classified as a light ingame right? Or i remember it wrong

[thorny smelt]

Yes

[misty wing]

For some reason I always think the B in AMX 30b stands for "British"

[sleek apex]

Lol, you might also think the same way on the Cromwell B.

[thorny smelt]

Batignolles-Chatillon char 25t is also a medium tank in real life

[thorny smelt]

I don't know if it's Brennus or just a variant of AMX-30

[sleek apex]

The "B" stands for Production series tanks.

Prototype models of the AMX-30 are designated to AMX-30A.

[thorny smelt]

Got it

[misty wing]

A = American
B = British

[robust orchid]

The Tortoise is a Tier X in PC but it's just a Tier IX in Blitz, sooo

[misty wing]

No it's not lmao

[thorny smelt]

Nope. FV217 Badger is the tier 10 after Tortoise.

[robust orchid]

Oh wait, I got them mixed up 💀

[thorny smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/really-bruh-blink-blank-face-gif-12917060

[robust orchid]

Sorry, skill issue moment

[dapper violet]

uhhh isn't it a tier 9 in pc

[misty wing]

I've been noticing myself perform really well in tier 9 mediums lately, even ones that are considered bad, and I believe it comes down to the fact that they have some of the largest alpha gains per tier in the game compared to tier 8 (225 to 350 is a 56% increase), while also having better or equal gun handling in most cases, and not worse as is usually the case. By comparison, the E100 only has a 39% gain in alpha over the E75 (and dramatically worse gun handling) despite being generally considered to be an outlier in the line with regards to its alpha damage. I've found the tier 9 mediums to have quite abusable guns, especially when top tier

[grim shell]

hey guys whats the best tank for 2vs2 / 3vs3 tournament

[dark schooner]

Should I run enhanced armor on the Tiger 1 to help with the upper plate that keeps getting penned or extra hp?

[tight storm]

Maybe type 71 , vk 90 and all other meta tanks

[violet timber]

VK90 isn’t meta

[tight storm]

I know but it’s still a very solid tank

[grim shell]

@tight storm @violet timber thanks

[grim shell]

it's played like a medium so you should try to hide as much of you tanks as possible

[violet timber]

If youre gonna use a super heavy in a 2v2 or 3v3, it’s gonna be 60TP or VK72

[grim shell]

my friends has 60tp so thats perfect

[wise moth]

Depends on the map and the skill of your team.

Overall though,
For heavies: S. Conq, VK 90 IMO are top tier for the small format(s). S Conq especially is super slept on. -10 gun depression lets him bully enemies off ridgelines in 1v1s, the DPM is better than IS-X tanks/Type 71, and the armor can still be tough to pen in a standard fight. Kran, 113, 5A, or an autoloader can also be a good pick depending on map

TDs: Badger. Insane traverse gives him a level of independence that few other TDs can boast, very important for small teams, and massive pen lets him slam through Kranvagns, and other obnoxious hulldown heavies. Insane DPM is the cherry on top.

Mediums: If your team is skilled, mediums can be actually pretty good picks. STB-1, T-22, and TVP would be my picks, depending on the map

[violet timber]

I, personally, agree with all of these except the VK90. Skonk is massively slept on, and Id also add in the STRV K if your enemy seems to be using meds a lot, though not a lot of people actually have the tank

[misty wing]

I think I'm gonna buy mine back just to flex

[wise moth]

VK 90 is better in the 2v2 format, and can be paired with a medium. It’s not as good when paired with another heavy, but in a VK 90/Med setup, he’s good because it takes an obnoxiously long time to kill, but is harder to bully out of position like other superheavies.

[violet timber]

That’s understandable

[grim shell]

i am planning to play a heavy-heavy 2vs2 setup so is type 71 paired with 60tp is good?

[violet timber]

I’d say skonk with 60TP would be better, but if you don’t have skonk get some other high dpm heavy like a 113

[dapper violet]

Would a superheavy paired with a lighter heavy work? Sounds like two specialized tanks may work better

[violet timber]

Generally a high alpha heavy + high dpm heavy works, though it does depend a lot on player skill

[wise moth]

IMO not really. Those tanks don’t really complement each other well. You can’t push with that setup because you lack DPM, but Type will struggle in a slower battle.

I’d go 113/Type for more offensive oriented play, or 60TP/Badger for a more defensive setup.

Double S Conq would be my recommendation for an all purpose double heavy setup

[misty wing]

I like going double autoloading heavy personallly

[grim shell]

you mention s.conq a lot, is there a tech tree tanks that are similar

[wise moth]

VK 90/Mediums is actually a really fantastic setup, and played perfectly, will win most of the time. but depends a lot on your medium player. Poor medium play will usually result in you getting rekt

[wise moth]

Not really. No one has the combination of DPM and -10 gun depression that he has

[violet timber]

Id say the closest would actually be the Yoh with the 3 shot gun

[wise moth]

Lots of the small format maps will pit teams on opposing sides of a dominant ridge line (like Yamato Hills, Normandy, etc…) so S Conq really gives a massive advantage in those maps

[misty wing]

Whats the most troll comp you can possibly make

[wise moth]

The problem is YoH’s weak turret means he can be bullied down, whereas S Conq can only be put down by like HE spamming 60TP

[violet timber]

Double TVP

[wise moth]

Double 50 B and sit behind a corner for the entire battle until they get curious and finally drive into you

[dapper violet]

I raise you double fv4005
with camo nets

[misty wing]

Double grille with no spall no camo

[violet timber]

Double T-100 sitting in opposite corners, not firing

[ripe jewel]

the conqueror or E5 i think

[misty wing]

Lmao a tier 9

[ripe jewel]

a conq is a conq

[wise moth]

You don’t need camo net. You don’t even want to trigger their lightbulb, or that gives away the game

[misty wing]

Imagine if they made it so you don't know what tanks your enemy has until you spot them

[dapper violet]

ik, but camo net helps with not triggering the lightbulb, as the td bonused net makes it funnier
one tank vanishes from existence, and then the other dies 30 seconds later

[violet timber]

New realistic mechanic

[ripe jewel]

imagine rushing a hill not knowing theres 2 183 and 1 jageroo waiting

[dapper violet]

Imagine playing a 2v2 game and getting heshed by 2 183s

[ripe jewel]

i mean it could work

[misty wing]

Nah, heavies are popular and most are difficult/impossible to hesh from the front. 2v2 maps are too small for them to not be pointing their front at you

[dapper violet]

well then the unfunny fv4005 spam tactic would be the only way of getting a funny jumpscare on a heavy

[wise moth]

Nah, it doesn’t really do anything. What you want to happen is that you literally sit behind a corner so that no one spots each other until they’re literally 50M away in front of your gun line

[dapper violet]

Oh... I see... that's pure evil. that's like horrifying
Last thing you see is 2 guns pointed at you and everything goes black

[wise moth]

Yeah. You don’t spot them. They don’t spot you. Simple.

Then some poor sap gets curious, rolls around the corner, sees double FV, and he needs to die (otherwise you’re going to lose lol)

[misty wing]

Imagine running stock ST-I in a tier 10 tourney just to troll your enemies

[dapper violet]

do double su-122-54s with camo net

they won't see you till its too late

[misty wing]

It's never too late when you only have 3200 hit points between the 2 of you

[violet timber]

Not enough HP 😔

[wise moth]

Inb4 double 50 B or double FV kill both in 1 clip each

[dapper violet]

main point of the meme su-122-54s is for the camo rating

[quasi mirage]

Can confirm, 50b is probably the simplest comp as well, just hp trade your way through the enemy

[wise moth]

Bro that E-100 yesterday just got straight memed on. Full HP super heavy gone in like 15s

[dapper violet]

and then two vk 90s round the corner

[quasi mirage]

also that deserts sand game was full lol we did both the e5 IIRC and then an is4, if the enemy team doesnt play a distance game its basically ggs

[wise moth]

Yeah that poor WZ 111 1-4. Drove up. Saw double 50 B, and his life flashed before his eyes lol.

And that IS-4 didn’t even do anything wrong lol. He thought he was safe sitting behind a building. But double 50 B doesn’t care when it goes 50km/h to YOLO you lol

[quasi mirage]

yeah double 4005 has like 3600 hp combined, double 50b has like 5k hp combined and decent 50b players can probably get 1k bounced off that hp as well in a brawl when the enemy is panicking

[quasi mirage]

or just lol pen the mantlet area with badger 380 pen, works like a charm

[wise moth]

Not to mention that even with spall, 15cm+ guns will still tear apart 4005s with HE

[wise moth]

Dude Badger is honestly so good in small formats. People pick stuff like Krans, and their entire strat falls apart when they’re getting meme penned by Badger

I played a team that was genuinely cursing at us in the chat because I played a Badger in a 3v3 on Yamato hills. They were so scared of the presence of the Badger in the lineup, especially because I just kept changing which corner I was sniping from, so they never knew where to push

[quasi mirage]

double 50b and batchat seems like an interesting lineup as well, batchat can do the probing and 50bs just yolo

[plucky summit]

TVP might as well

[quasi mirage]

tvp cant spot reliably

[plucky summit]

Since when did light tanks actually spot better in Blitz 🤔

[wise moth]

Honestly, I’ve never though about that, but seems interesting depending on map. Only issue is that it’s sort of a telegraphed lineup lol. You see triple autoloader, and you kinda know what’s going on

[quasi mirage]

batchat is the best spotter in the game in a 1v1 open field with vents. I guess id rather have the t100 because its like a 2 meters difference and the tracer shells make up for it but batchat is overall a better tank now, it has the same dpm in the form of an autoloader

[wise moth]

One of the main advantages Bat has is the better DPM and faster clip reload lets him stay in the fight to pick up the pieces when the Bs run out of ammunition

[quasi mirage]

yeah tvp has to often hold its fire over a free potshot who will reliably go back into cover . Ill probably fire if I get a 2nd shot and can reload safely but 1 shot for a 25 second reload? Meanwhile the Batchat has like a 13 second reload so its basically just resetting camo

[wise moth]

I started running Bat with vents/optics recently after playing for years with Camo/Cali, and actually the massive view range is meta breaking. You can see things like TDs in the obnoxious bushes on Oasis from dunes side, and other nonsense like that.

[quasi mirage]

I try both , currently running CS but gonna probably switch after the type 71 nerf stops making it so common @wise moth

Still though whichever genius at WG gave the sheri 280 meters was so stupid. Its simply just unfun to play against early games. Most Tds will just be camping while a sheri can race into position and slap for 600.

[wise moth]

I hate Sheri players in pubs so much for that. Getting shot for 600 because a Sheri can just race into a position to shoot you while you’re still setting up is soooo annoying

[plucky summit]

Beats what it used to be

Getting punished for being in said position at all x-x

[misty wing]

I mean a lot of people played the missile Sheri like arty, and sucked with the missiles so ended up not doing much

[plucky summit]

At least now BatChat can punish more quickly against enemies that are getting into position B)

[stiff cape]

Lowe means lion in German? I didn't know that. Why haven't they made a lion skin for the Lowe then? There's a lot they could do with that. They could do something similar to the shark.

[violet timber]

Because they made the lion skin for the E50M

[plucky summit]

You... Know why they call it the Shark, right?

[stiff cape]

No

[plucky summit]

Ignore me, I didn't get any sleep

I interpreted your message like they should do the same thing to the T54E2, which made me think you didn't know there was an actual Shark camo for the tank

[stiff cape]

I have that tank and it's a good tank. I just wish it had a slightly more powerful Canon. The Canon feels like it belongs in a medium tank.

[plucky summit]

That's what you get in order to have a great turret and nice mobility, even with the hull armor

[stiff cape]

It's decently quick for a heavy, good strong wedge shaped turret, low profile. It's not a bad tank. I just wish it did more damage. Just tiny bit more and it would be perfect

Seriously it really is a good tank. That thing is bounced just as many shells as my heaviest German and Soviet tanks. That's hard to do.

[plucky summit]

Shark's gun isn't a far cry from Lowe's, and Lowe has a gun on it

[stiff cape]

For the size of that Lowe, I always felt that the gun was underpowered.

That big tank, I forget what it's called, does more damage from what I remember. Am I remembering that right?

[plucky summit]

VK 168.01 P? Keiler?

[stiff cape]

I think..?

[plucky summit]

Keiler deals 350
VK 100 and VK 168 deal 460

[stiff cape]

That big behemoth by the Germans, that really big premium one. I think it's Tier 8 right?

[misty wing]

310 is normal for tier 8 heavies. Any more and you have to pay a heavy price in gun handling

[stiff cape]

I'm tired too. 😂 I think I may have been hallucinating a few minutes ago. I'm staying up a little later then usual to fix my schedule.

[plucky summit]

I tried to sleep but my eyes wouldn't feel comfortable, just super tired

[stiff cape]

If you're having trouble sleeping, figure out how long it takes you to crash from caffeine, and then drink it at the perfect time so you crash right about the time you go to bed, maybe about 20 minutes later. Perfect night's sleep

[plucky summit]

I don't feel caffeine crashes, but then again I've never drank coffee

[stiff cape]

It'll knock you on your butt if you have trouble sleeping

[plucky summit]

At least I can still nerd out about tanks

[stiff cape]

You can keep a can of coffee handy if you're having problems sleeping. Works like a charm. Just figure out what you're caffeine tolerance is and read about the caffeine content of each brand. Each is different

Although I would recommend adding milk or cream or something.... Or at least sweetening it. Those cans of coffee can be pretty bitter.

[plucky summit]

Aw man, just thinking about how crazy T54E2 would be if it had Lowe's gun

[stiff cape]

The shark reminds me of the Grizzly M60A7 MBT from Battlezone

[plucky summit]

Modern tanks, so complicated

I love simple things

[stiff cape]

That tank isn't modern. It's from the 1960s from the Cold War fought against the Russians in space.

[plucky summit]

According to America's Library, the Modern Era consists of 1946 to the present

[stiff cape]

At least that's the era its based on. And it's not based on human technology either. Alien technology using sentient metal

It's from a game. Lol 🤣 It's actually a pretty good story

[plucky summit]

I'm not that diverse of a gamer, really

[stiff cape]

Well it got a near perfect score in PC gamer when it came out in 1998. Groundbreaking

Re-release on steam too. They also made a tracked assault tank I wish they would add to this game.

That tank was in Battlezone II

It's a long distance plasma assault tank so it would be a TD with a plasma cannon.

They could just give the shell and smoke trail visual effects a green color.

I would love to see that TD in this game!

[plucky summit]

Hot Orange and Black, my two favorite colors together

[stiff cape]

And it wasn't always orange. Depending on what team you were, I've seen it orange, blue, and dark red I think.

It's a pretty sick looking assault tank. I think it would be perfect for this game. It would fit right in with a few of the tanks that are already in here from other franchises.

It didn't do a terrible amount of damage, but it had extremely good range and a good fire rate.

So I would say medium damage for a destroyer, with super long range, good penetration, and a very good rate of fire like an HTC T28. It shot plasma shells so I would think that it would probably have HE and HEAT

It was mostly used against stuff like buildings and factories, gun towers, etc.

[sleek apex]

That's a weird Lupus you got there.

[slate crest]

Based

Is there any vehicle in Wotblitz that comprised high DPM and heavy armour?

[tight storm]

At 15 maybe

[tulip knot]

Badger

[restive parrot]

Are we really going to ignore the fact the e50m has 169mm of armor on top of turret

[dapper violet]

I have the low ground obi-wan

[restive parrot]

E50m right now has 94 mm on sides of turret

It could take some of that ridiculous top armor and add it to the sides

No other tank in the game comes even close to having that much roof armor

[hollow belfry]

Concept 1B with a 150mm thick hull floor: ‘’Finally a worthy opponent’’

[shrewd field]

Make HD to Porsche Tiger!!

[slate crest]

Yes!

[slate crest]

Good example 🌟

[worldly grotto]

why is the t57 more popular than the m-vi-yoh?
the yoh is better in all aspects: accuracy, aiming time, dpm, clip reload (7 seconds lower), gun depression, gun elevation, armor, turret turn rate and most importantly, it has double tracks so its harder to track, it also has retile calibration consumable which is op with autoloaders...the only thing that t57 excels at is the dmg per shot

[dark schooner]

The Tiger is an absolute monster when played on the flank. Definitely not a frontline tank

[lilac mica]

Precise which Tiger

[dark schooner]

Tiger 1

[wise moth]

The 57 is definitely better than the Yoh running the small gun.

The accuracy difference is pretty minimal. Both have pretty unreliable armor profiles, and both tanks have the same DPM, and pretty much the same mobility

The gun is the critical difference. T57’s 400 alpha isn’t just higher damage per shot. It’s an extra 300 damage per clip. Smacking someone for 1200 hurts way, way more than just 900. And T57 has clip boost on top of that now, so you can slam someone for 1200 in just 3.6s.

[restive parrot]

@hollow belfry that’s only the slope, front part that you can actually shoot at from the front…… if you go behind that it’s no longer 150 mm. I’m talking about the flat top part of turrets that you can’t shoot at.

[lucid crater]

Guys is the M-48 good?

[restive parrot]

Just for perspective….the maus has only 50 mm of roof armor…..that’s how stupid 169 mm is on the e50m

[frail valve]

wich gun should i get for the t49

[lilac mica]

The derp gun (The one who can shoot HEAT and HESH)

[hollow belfry]

I’m talking about the actual hull floor that you’ll have the occasion to shoot about as often as an E 50 M’s turret top. The Concept’s belly literally has more raw armor than almost any other part of the hull @restive parrot

[frail valve]

ok but why it has low dpm

[lilac mica]

Because it has a long reload and it does a high dmg per shot for a light

[frail valve]

ok i gonna do it then

[lucid crater]

Anyone?

[slate crest]

It depends... If it's under a versatile player, it is efficient

[solid gate]

Is the is4 still worth grinding?

[odd cove]

yes

[solid gate]

Cuz now ive seen they adding pbr to it

[lyric copper]

always has been

[wise moth]

Nah. Painfully boring tank

[odd cove]

gonna be better than the new type

[tulip knot]

You don’t play t49 to actually do well. The whole point of it is just to run around and smack things for 500-800 damage

[frail valve]

i got the new gun with 500 dmg and i like it but the aiming time

[tulip knot]

Yeah, the accuracy and aim sucks

Try to get behind opponents and HE their rear

[odd cove]

expect that from a large caliber and shorter gun, like the kv2

[solid gate]

Hi guys

How did you get the Fury tank?

[dark schooner]

Old collector tank I believe

[balmy compass]

it appears for sale every so often in the store for cash

[solid gate]

Oh, thanks

[plucky summit]

Tis not, but the M4A3E2 is

[misty wing]

yoh is worse in all aspects except turret armor and gun depression

yoh is one of the most pointless tanks in the game. the point of autoloaders is to deal an extremely large amount of damage quickly, and 900 isn't extremely large. that's why no one plays it, in addition to how ugly it is

[dark schooner]

Would it be wise to grind the type 71 since I’m performing well in the Tiger 1 and both are similar tanks?

[odd cove]

up to you, though the type is getting nerfed soon

[true cave]

Good night - could anyone tell me what is the deal with those things?

[limpid cave]

Which things are you referring to?

[true cave]

The three in the middle: destroys, damage and idk what else

[limpid cave]

Let me save you time.

That "rank" system is just a scam. It has nothing to do with skill and all to do with paying credits to increase the rank.

You benefit absolutely nothing from it. Complete waste of credits.

[wise moth]

^

[limpid cave]

You'll just end up getting rank 50. Then people will trashtalk you unless you single handedly kill all 7 enemies with 4 shots.

[true cave]

Bro, I thought they had some good purpose 💀 thanks for the heads-up man, appreciate it

[limpid cave]

Nope bro. Zero skill purpose whatsoever

You basically waste 15 million credits to get Rank 50. When you could have bought 3x Tier 10 tanks for the same credits.

[true cave]

(And also wasted 34k of free XP) - unbelievable. Thanks again, Marcus 🤝

[limpid cave]

No problem. Glad to help.

[tepid stump]

Eh Yoh's 120mm is more for quickly dumping and fall back into cover than sitting there

[misty wing]

you just stated the point of all autoloaders

[tepid stump]

nonono, I meant that it can dump the clip in like 1.79 seconds compared to T57 that takes around 6?ish seconds to empty it

[misty wing]

dumping a much lower damage clip quickly

[tepid stump]

yeah pretty much

though T57 is probably better overall, can't say much considering I haven't got both yet

[safe cedar]

Yoh deserves to be pointless, infact yoh deserves to be nerfed so it's unplayable, as it's so ugly it makes my eyes want to roll out of my head. How am I supposed to fight it when I'm too busy throwing up at just how gross it looks and how incredibly toxic it is. I would gladly pay for a subscription to have no yohs in my tier X games, just so I didn't have to look at it.

[misty wing]

based

[robust orchid]

Underrated opinion

I just noticed that the T26E5 has (slightly) higher alpha than the Pershing and Super Pershing 💀

[safe cedar]

It's what makes is actually enjoyable

[stray hare]

help😭

I lost my account login for around a year and when I got back in I randomly had the Pz IV A

The only info I can find on it is in the wiki and some video from 6 years ago ad my account was made way later than that

[obsidian isle]

If the were to ever Pbr the m103 I think they should give it like the big butt like how the m48 Patton has and 10 meters of frontal top armro

[stray hare]

I don't even know where I could have gotten it 🗿🗿🗿🗿

does anyone know how I could have gotten it????

[safe cedar]

Wdym?

[stray hare]

it just showed up in my garage randomly

and the wotb channel isn't much help either

[odd cove]

well you got a free tank, be grateful

[stray hare]

but the same thing happened when i creeated my account

I got the t67 free

[odd cove]

hm

[stray hare]

and it makes no sense

on the other hand I never got an offer for the grizzly

[odd cove]

nintendo

[stray hare]

pc

and no one I ask knows what happened

[brittle tendon]

mini tiger:)

[hollow notch]

The t26e5 is somewhere between slightly and significantly better than the Spersh in every single stat

[vagrant jasper]

Yoh looks very cool. I've never played it but i could imagine its armor profile is a pain to manage

[vagrant jasper]

look what i found! Heres me and the boys beating up a Yoh if it makes you happy

[brittle tendon]

Tbh one of the most annoying tanks

[vagrant jasper]

why so? annoying to play?

[brittle tendon]

nono to vs

[vagrant jasper]

ahh gotcha, for me in T10 battles its gotta be the sheridan

[brittle tendon]

ah

[kind flicker]

Chi nu is easy to beat in a 1v1, try brawling with a BDR G1 B

[brittle tendon]

in heavy’s tho

[kind flicker]

still a pain to fight

[supple hearth]

Me going to circle it: 🗿

[brittle tendon]

Child smacker 2000

[vagrant jasper]

my HE shell on its way to penetrate you 😋

[old vapor]

HE shells:
https://tenor.com/view/suit-slideshow-man-in-suit-sitting-man-wearing-suit-sitting-slideshow-man-wearing-suit-meme-gif-25275395

[wispy seal]

I just got 57 heavy, should i play it as a heavy or a hevium?

[tulip knot]

T67 was given for a period of time to new accounts that finished a certain quest.

[wispy seal]

I thought it was t6e1 that was given to new players

[vocal fractal]

should i buy 60tp or is7??

[wise moth]

Neither. It's an autoloader support tank. You pop out, slam people for 1200, then rinse and repeat. And you have some HP to trade with too

[grim shell]

wz 113 seems like a long version of wz 121, what are the difference?

[wise moth]

113 armor and HP, and 121 doesn't

[grim shell]

which one is better to pick

[neon sentinel]

Real quick

Should i get the SU100Y or the IS5?!

🗿

[wise moth]

113

[neon sentinel]

Big Bully

[wispy seal]

60 tp, derp gun = fun

[tepid stump]

well, depends on what you prefer

[neon sentinel]

Im looking for something i can trust when it comes to dmg, accuracy, good mobility and etc.

[tepid stump]

you're looking to farm credits right?

[grim shell]

last year auction have a lot of selectio of good and for 2000 gold you can get the kunze panzer which has dmg, accuracy and good mobility that you are looking for but between su-100y and is 5, i choose the su because its a tier 6 tank destroyer so its easy to farm damage to get credits

[tepid stump]

^^

SU-100Y is pretty good when you know how to play it. Plus it's a bundle so max equipment and all that

[oak pollen]

I heard that foch 155 he dmg will get increased to 800 and intra clip reload time will be decrease to ~3sec
It also have ~90mm he pen
1600dmg in ~3sec that'll make the tonk broken

[violet timber]

The 800 damage is only on the cyclic gun, it’s 3.75 intra, and that’s unfortunate because if you manage to get HE’d by a Foch, you deserve to take 1600 damage

[flat aspen]

am i the only one who thinks minotauro is too op?

[hollow belfry]

yes

[violet timber]

Mino isn’t op, it’s just not fun to play with or against

[hollow belfry]

the tank is unbalanced but far from overpowered. As said above, it’s both unfun to play and to play against.

Mino’s pretty mid.

Literally just sit hulldown and pray that no fast tank will get behind you or that no heavy/TD will slam your weakspots with prammo, all of that while taking forever to do damage with your 2.4k (at best) dpm and poor accuracy.

[fallow shuttle]

Is 5

[safe cedar]

IS-5 Is the very definition of reliability.

Soviet armour, functional mobility, and a hard hitting gun with stupid velocity

[safe cedar]

Your letting a slow inflexible td get directly behind you and fire into your butt? that's the only way it can HE you... and if that's the case you deserve to loose 1600hp like The Rat said.

[hollow belfry]

As far as I know it’s only the single-shot gun that will see its HE alpha increased to 800 anyway.

At least that’s what I assume they mean by ‘’regular gun’’

[violet timber]

It is only the cyclic gun, unfortunately

[hollow belfry]

Even then, besides the Foch’s higher HE pen, a T57 heavy’s HE clip with the shell reload boost would deal almost as much damage in a slightly shorter time span. Where’s your complaint about this?

[safe cedar]

Yes quite unfortunate, I wish it has the full he alpha so I could splash more.

[flat aspen]

i was 1v1 with my is4, he clapped me

always staying hull down, is4 with prammo couldnt pen it

[worldly grotto]

worse in all aspects? in game stats shows the opposite, check both tanks stats, u'll see that yoh is better in accuracy, aiming time, dpm, clip reload (7 seconds lower), gun depression, gun elevation, armor, turret turn rate and it has double tracks and reticle calibration which allows for full clip penetration from a long distance with the clip booster

[misty wing]

But why would you want an autoloader with less clip potential with the same dpm (and worse mobility)

Just makes no sense to play the yoh especially when you consider how ugly it is

[worldly grotto]

if they go 1 v 1 t57 stands no chance with a reload time of 20 seconds, yoh can reload faster and shoot its whole clip even before the t57 reloads and shoots a single shot

clip reload makes a huge difference, 13 seconds clip reload can be even faster than some heavy tanks with a single shot

[misty wing]

You're assuming that the yoh starts loaded and the t57 doesn't lmao, and also 1v1 are irrelevant

[worldly grotto]

both starts loaded, they go reload, yoh reloads in 13 seconds, shoots its second clip, and the t57 is still reloading the second clip

[misty wing]

And the yoh can't kill with the second clip so the T57 will eventually get his off

[violet timber]

T57 actually wins a 1v1 lol

[worldly grotto]

assuming they face hug and dont go around corners, t57 can be tracked down while yoh with double tracks cant

[misty wing]

Only nubs face hug in autoloaders

[violet timber]

Yoh can’t move forward while tracked though, only backwards

[worldly grotto]

so we're talking about poking corners great, what if t57 gets tracked in a team fight? instant death

[violet timber]

Repair kits:

[misty wing]

You insta repair and go back around the corner, as long as it's not a tvp
And if it is a TVP you can just trade clips with him

[worldly grotto]

u play on EU? wanna jump in a training room?

[misty wing]

The yoh's armor isn't valuable enough nowadays to justify the vastly inferior gun selection

And no I play on NA, as my role would suggest

[worldly grotto]

ah didnt notice, too bad

[solid gate]

New tank spoted

[stiff cape]

What the heck is a Pawlack tank.... never heard of that one before.

[flat aspen]

what do u think about leopard 1? is it worth grinding?

i have t62a and love it, dont know how leopard1 compares to it

[wise moth]

Actually, if both tanks start fully loaded, and are full HP, the T57 will destroy the YoH in 28s, whereas the Yoh needs 38s to kill the T57

[thorny smelt]

A tier 6 US heavy tank in the WoT PC Yoh line.

WoT PC Yoh line:
Tier 7: M-II-Y
Tier 8: M-III-Y
Tier 9: M-VI-Y
Tier 10: M-V-Y

[plucky summit]

It's a premium in Blitz in testing right now
Though I guess I can scroll up 🥲

[thorny smelt]

IS-2Sh (IS-M): Whyyyy?!!!!

[plucky summit]

I disliked playing it on PC because the armor cannot be used at all unless it's a defensive sidescrape or you can manage to go hulldown with your terrible GD

[thorny smelt]

IS-M in WoT PC has arguably better armor than IS-2Sh

[plucky summit]

Plz WG :p

[thorny smelt]

Just get it from WoT PC model and I'm all gucci

[earnest pine]

What is the best tier 5 tanks to win and better against high tier tank?

[vagrant jasper]

agreed, but if ur good in it its an ace farm cus nobody wants to suffer

[vagrant jasper]

T1 heavy was my go-to choice. Just facehug everybody

[earnest pine]

@vagrant jasper perfect against high tier tanks

[vagrant jasper]

hm?

[dapper violet]

the giant box on the front of the ufp is why people don't use the tank (and the armor on top of the gun)

[balmy compass]

The armor just doesn’t exist
And the IS-6 can sidescrape better despite being a front mounted tank

[flat aspen]

how does the leopard 1 compare with t62a? is it worth grinding?

[plucky summit]

The armor above the gun is great, wdym?

At least in Blitz it has -10°, playing less on PC was painful because without it, your armor is unusable

[copper swan]

check world of tanks

[stiff cape]

Hey I'm really liking this m4 49 AMX. Nicely balanced tank with some above average speed making it easy to pop up, take a shot, and dip back behind a hill before someone has a chance to shoot me. Really good maneuverability too

I'm going to make this tank part of my regular playing cycle. Finally a decent tank for French missions.

The Tier X version of this tank is garbage though. Hate that tank. I'm thinking of selling it.

It's big, easy to shoot, doesn't do much damage considering its size, it's basically a giant target. I've never had any luck playing that tank even with some good advice for it.

[stiff cape]

Yeah I'm all caught up. I saw the messages for me.

[copper swan]

you are supposed to use the full gun depression of 8 degrees in a hulldown position to play the AMX 54
on flat ground, of course the cupolas will be big and easy to hit like T95E6

[grim shell]

hey i need a tech tree line that is fun to play, not very hard too master and good for tournament. any suggestion

[fallow shuttle]

I'm not sher what the current tuny tanks are but I use arl 44 for 6 and I like the shark for 8 I think tiger used to be OK

Crom well also for 6 and 49 for 8 scout

I'd use 100lt probably if I got in a 10 turn for a scout

[grim shell]

thank you, but i also considering the next update meta with the chinese tank. and even the leak czech tanks so i got overwhelm

[fallow shuttle]

Thare will always be a new great tank but some times just knowing how to drive the ones you got will have to be enough

[grim shell]

thanks for the advices

[stiff cape]

You didn't specify your playstyle or type of vehicle you like.

It's difficult to recommend a tank to someone without knowing anything about how they play. Otherwise any advice we give is going to be entirely subjective based on how we play, not how you play.

[fallow shuttle]

That also helps I got some friends that prefer the he'll cat over the Cromwell and I just can not run it

[balmy compass]

Armor inspector says the IS-2Sh only has 7 degrees of depression

[odd cove]

hellcat is a light

[plucky summit]

I was talking about Pawlack

Yes, I misinterpreted the message I replied to

[balmy compass]

Oh

[plucky summit]

I need more sleep, but I also need to not skip class B)

I had utterly forgotten that I went off on a tangent with IS-2Sh

[fallow shuttle]

That's what I'm meaning when I say it's in-between helical and Cromwell as a flanker

[violet timber]

What Tier?

[plucky summit]

Just give the 60TP line :p
Heck, maybe even E100

[violet timber]

I’d say IS-4, but the fun part kinda ruins that

[plucky summit]

I'm thinking about tier 8 and tier 10 by performance, Tiger II + E100 or 53 + 60 are pretty nice

The problem is that he portrayed is the three requirement triangle that you can only meet two corners of

Ex. If you want good performance, you sacrifice fun

[grim shell]

well i have a fast frontline playstyle, some times sneaky cuz i play lights. so between heavy, medium and lights

[grim shell]

tier x

[neon sentinel]

Bruuuuhhh 🗿🍷✨️

[safe cedar]

"OoH nO aMx 50b hE oP pLs NeRf wEeGeE, I cOuLd gEt hEd wHeN I pLaY lIke aN aPe"

[hearty hazel]

t54 or object 84?

[safe cedar]

Object 84, the additional gun depression makes it both better, more comfortable. And more enjoyable.

[hearty hazel]

does it get more? i thought the whole line was bad

[safe cedar]

It gets 8° of gun depression over the front and rear.

[lyric copper]

the whole line was considered and probably still is considered better than the mediums

[wise moth]

After recent rebalances, it’s honestly tougher to say now IMO.
For T-43 vs LTTB, honestly it’s debatable as to which is better
For T-44 vs ltwt, I’d lean ltwt out of habit, but post nerf, there’s a good case for T-44 now
For T-54 vs Obj 84, after the T-54 buff, T-54 is honestly just clearly better
For 140 vs T-100 it’s honestly close as well

[lyric copper]

in the time before the T-54 LTWT changes, the T-44, despite having -8°, still lost out to the LTWT simply because the LTWT could pen the T44 when itself could not pen the LTWT

[stiff cape]

Okay guys, that's more for us to work with. What line of tanks would be best for someone who has a fast Frontline play style, sometimes sneaky because he plays with lights. Something in a heavy, medium, or light line?

My first thought is something with good camo that has good maneuverability and quick.

Something with good turret strength so you can hull down when you need to, but quick so you can bug out and outpace your enemy.

What tanks can you guys think of that would fulfill those requirements?

[stiff cape]

Are you more interested in spotting and providing Intel, fighting, support, running interference, or capturing?

The difference between support and running interference is support typically needs to protect teammates so they can fulfill a certain role by either packing a big punch 👊, providing advanced warning, the ability to be really annoying if an enemy messes with one of your teammates, or be able to be basically a metal wall to protect other players, while someone running interference needs to be able to move around more quickly and interfere with what an enemy is planning and stop them from distracting members of your team from what they are planning.

[balmy compass]

E 50 M but not the camo part
Maybe the FV 4202 but not the camo and turret is eh
There isn’t really anything rn thats fast, has good camo and good turret armor

[stiff cape]

Typically when I think of a fast tank I think of stuff like the French line.

I like some of the Brit premium tanks but I haven't liked any of the ones from the main tech lines. They typically have a lot of armor and a little pop can in that barely does anything.

[balmy compass]

Well none of the tier X French tanks have a good turret

[stiff cape]

Like my badger, I love that hull down beast. 10 depression and a heavily sloped front armor. I freaking love that TD

[stiff cape]

Yeah.... Hmmm 🤔 We need to put on our thinking caps. 🪖

[balmy compass]

Except AMX M4 54 or whatever it was, but it’s not very fast or has good camo

[rotund palm]

Is this tank good for credits grinding?

[stiff cape]

Everything I think of to recommend is a premium tank and he wants something from the main tech tree. I'm not sure what to recommend.

[balmy compass]

What he wants doesn’t exist
yet

[stiff cape]

Eh.... There's a bunch of tanks that are similar. The eagle is very similar but it has a stronger turret but it's slower. And then there's that other one the predator or something like that. And I think there's even another one.

Actually I think there's more than that. Maybe four or five different tanks that are similar.

Honestly I think there's probably better choices to grind, but if it's all you have, beggars can't be choosers.

[stiff cape]

If you don't have much else and you're looking for a premium tank to grind, go ahead until you find something better. Just make sure you understand that tank's strengths and weaknesses and adjust your playstyle.

[stiff cape]

If you were asking about premiums I would love to recommend the AMX m4 45. Decent speed for a heavy, good maneuverability, decent damage, decent reload time. It feels really balanced with some good speed, but it's definitely not a fragile tank. It's not some big beefy steel wall, but it's not going to die easily either.

[nimble spruce]

This is probably not a super played tank but which gun is best on the WZ-110?

[stiff cape]

No idea, I don't have any Chinese tanks

A lot of these AMX's I typically think of as glass cannons, except for that m4 45. I actually really like that tank.

And my CDA. I love my CDA.

[grim shell]

@stiff cape well my play style varies, i like a hulldown tanks and i also like to provide spot and damage assitants, i also like a tanks that can cover criticals position so that the enemy wouldn't push

[plucky summit]

AMX M4 mle. 49 you mean?

[sleek drift]

I love the T 34 3. Great little tank with a boom stick

[sleek drift]

I wouldnt recommend the liberte tbh. The 100mm has derpy gun handling and that cupola can be HE'd. The frontal plate is barely ~250mm. It can be penned easily by Prem rounds even from tier 8 mediums

[plucky summit]

The gun handling isn’t that bad, but I wasn’t recommending the tank anyways 😎

[sleek drift]

Good to see we're both on the same page. The liberte is outclassed by many newer tanks and it's a shame to see that happen

[copper swan]

122 TM and Chimera better imo

[copper swan]

side and rear can be penetrated by high explosive shells

[robust orchid]

Löwe is also good too if you know how to sidescrape

[misty wing]

Everyone knows how to sidescrape, the main problem is knowing when to sidescrape

[robust orchid]

And yeah, the Chimera is really good too, great for sealclubbing Tier VIIs and bonking unsuspecting heavies like the Emil

[robust orchid]

Then there's the issue of the Löwe's penetrable turret cheeks

[plucky summit]

Throw the gun mantlet around, even with the nerf against t8 heavies it’ll be fine

[stiff cape]

Did I say 45? Oops. I meant 49. You're right.

[plucky summit]

[stiff cape]

Something I love doing with that tank is staying ahead of a group of big lumbering tanks, and just keep perching myself on hills ahead of them, taking a few shots, and then running ahead of them again and doing the same thing. It's a good tactic with that tank because it's quick enough to do it.

[robust orchid]

T-34-85 turret on a Panther hull, because yes

[wispy seal]

Yes

[plucky summit]

What gun?

[wispy seal]

Bl-10💀

Idk if the t-34-85 will not explode when firing the bl-10

[robust orchid]

76.2mm QF-17 Pdr, because yes

[copper swan]

or the turret would dislocate

[wispy seal]

Lol, you can only shoot once

[tepid stump]

truly a single shot gun

[grim shell]

what y'all think of adding panhard ebr 105 in wotb

[thorny smelt]

Nooope

[grim shell]

why?

[halcyon lotus]

maps too small for wheeled tanks, and also generally unbalanced

[grim shell]

ohh okay, but it will be cool thoo

[halcyon lotus]

it won’t

[safe cedar]

AMX-30b

[safe cedar]

AMX m4 54 and AMX-30b would like to know you location

[thorny smelt]

Atelier de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux M4 modele 1954: Am I a joke to you? 🥖 🇫🇷 🥐

[wise moth]

AMX 50 B

The line is kinda powercrept now, but it honestly fits the bill IMO. Large magazines and good HP pools to shoot your way through the enemy on the front line, but also fast enough to sneak around

[safe cedar]

@grim shell
The tanks you are looking for can be found both as premiums and in the store, most notably the obj 907, T-62a, and Kpf 50t.

[grim shell]

but i need tech tree tank thoo

[safe cedar]

T-62a is tech tree

[safe cedar]

It has great mobility, an excellent turret, good camo, and an accurate high dpm gun.

[wise moth]

Good thinking

[grim shell]

ok thank you all

[balmy compass]

You didn’t read the next message I send 👍

[balmy compass]

Same with you lol

[balmy compass]

So, American STG

[safe cedar]

The only tier X French tank with exceptionally poor armour is the AMX-50b

I said exceptionally poor, Batchat has normal armour for a light tank.

[balmy compass]

BatChat has a paper turret, although doesn’t seem to be able to be HE’d much

[plucky summit]

With spall, not many people are gonna even try anymore

[balmy compass]

Exactly

[balmy compass]

Ic what you mean
although in my first message I also ment to throw in the Foch too since it doesn’t have a turret

[plucky summit]

E3 doesn't have a turret 😋

[grim shell]

what you guys think about wz 132-1, is it op or meh ?

[plucky summit]

OP, mainly because of DPM. It just doesn't match the playstyle of its mechanic

[misty wing]

looks like you've hopped onto the terrible trend of pretending like "meh" is the worst tier and the opposite of OP

[hollow belfry]

it has plenty of dpm and that mechanic is super clutch on a light tank to be fair. Might not be as dumb as the OG T-100LT however since it doesn't quite have the armor, gun handling and pen along with that extremely small profile

[misty wing]

I think it's gonna be average for a med/light judging by the stats, which equals out to below average when we account for the heavy meta

[plucky summit]

I'd say it should be a tank with a 7+ second reload with higher alpha so it can actually use its mechanic to it's gun's advantage

[balmy compass]

What’s the alpha on it rn

[hollow belfry]

330

[misty wing]

it's got roughly patton level DPM with worse alpha and substantially worse standard pen, and the mobility looks to be below average for a light with lower p/w on medium than even the TVP

[plucky summit]

That terrain resistance go hard, feel free to give the dang thing improved suspension, WG 🗿

[balmy compass]

At least it looks cool

[misty wing]

I think having 0.14 otm dispersion with the lower alpha and fast acceleration is gonna make it unfun for me personally

[grim shell]

what i mean by meh is thats if its not that game breaking to be nerfed to its ground next update, like the minotauro its pretty hard to deal with but once close range its easy to deal

[hollow belfry]

Yeah it's a good looking tank for sure. While not without drawbacks it's got plenty of potential and I'm quite eager to get my hands on it

Certainly buying it the day 9.7 drops

[plucky summit]

I think it'll be one of those training room tanks to drive around for fun, like Type 62 or M41D

[misty wing]

I bought enough crates to get the legendary XP certificate 🥰

[balmy compass]

Sounds like the perfect tank for me to get 💀
I have been getting all the tanks that nobody would really play

[plucky summit]

I threw like 3 of mine at Obj. 263 and TVP T 50/51

[misty wing]

I threw my last one at the 50b and then grinded the foch 155 with a bunch of x5s that I can't remember how I got

[plucky summit]

17 x3s came from the event iirc

[balmy compass]

3 more x3 from the profile background event

[plucky summit]

Blitz is far more handholding than WoT when it comes to giving f2ps things that are useful, instead of rental tanks and scarce hour-long bonuses.

[balmy compass]

WoT PC just seems like a very long and painful grind :|

[plucky summit]

You have doubled battle lengths with similar XP turnouts, while you also have to purchase modules, harming the credit grind that you can't easily manage with premium tanks because they barely ever give decent tier premiums out for free

[misty wing]

How long has it been since they sold GSOR 1008

[plucky summit]

I guess it was last available since globes, but I don't know about GSOR's containers or the tank itself

[fallow shuttle]

Prems are more expensive also

[trail sage]

which is better obj 907 or t22?

[misty wing]

907

[solid gate]

Whats a good premium at t8 at farming credits?

[hollow belfry]

A tank you won’t get bored of too quickly and in which you can perform decently well

[cursive wolf]

Shark,252u,Lowe.. they’re good at farming and dealing dmg

[fallow shuttle]

I wish I could finish my Cromwell collection but this

[kindred wren]

What‘s the trouble? Just research the Crusader over the Matilda

[fallow shuttle]

Why would I do that

[kindred wren]

To finish your Cromwell collection

[fallow shuttle]

I already got the fv4202

[plucky summit]

Because you want Cromwell?

[fallow shuttle]

I got 5 of them

[plucky summit]

Okay, but if you didn't want Cromwell, why did you make your post 🤔

[lyric mountain]

Guys is the maus worth it?

If not then I’ll change to the shielded howitzer on wheels

[fallow shuttle]

See how many people think it's weird that I don't got it

[plucky summit]

I assume none?

[fallow shuttle]

I prefer the e100 vk 90 vk 72 then mouse

The one I'm in vc was funny listening to

[lyric mountain]

There’s a destroyer e100 and a normal one

[thorn bane]

Yes

[fallow shuttle]

I kinda like both but the regular one

[lyric mountain]

Aight time to waste 5 weeks getting a rat

[brittle oracle]

Wtf

[fallow shuttle]

That is why

[plucky summit]

waste is probably just confused why you took an alternative line to FV4202

[fallow shuttle]

It wasn't back then

[plucky summit]

Or how you seemingly skipped tier 5 to get the Firefly, using Sherman V

[fallow shuttle]

And I wanted the Sherman's for my collection

[plucky summit]

Just get the Cromwell then

[fallow shuttle]

Na much more fun this waay

[plucky summit]

Ok

[hard quail]

kv-1s or kv2

[balmy compass]

KV-1s is better overall
KV-2 is when you just want to be a huge annoyance to everyone

[wind briar]

Hello Is there a channel where I can get help?

[balmy compass]

what do you need help with

[wind briar]

I have a problem with the camera during gameplay

[plucky summit]

Go on

[balmy compass]

we can help you here

[wind briar]

Namely, when I rotate the camera it moves as if it is such a slip when I tried to fix it nothing helped below I will give a video of how normal players rotate

[wind briar]

#blitz-school-tips message

[balmy compass]

what device do you play on

[wind briar]

Pc

[balmy compass]

does this issue only happens in blitz? not any other game?

[wind briar]

Yes occurs only in the blitz before changing the computer I had everything right

What I can do about it?

[wind briar]

Can you help me?

[plucky summit]

I cannot, unfortunately, sounds like something for WG support to assist with

[wind briar]

I could ask from you 3 files of world of tanks blitz files maybe it would help me to fix the camera

[wind briar]

If that doesn't help then I will confatct with WG support

[robust orchid]

Chimera and Löwe all the way

[sacred needle]

The only thing i hate abt the smv cc 56 is the turret doesnt turn 360 degrees but other than that loving it

[tepid stump]

that's the entire line 💀

[ripe valve]

That the point, lol.

[sacred needle]

Lol

[cunning tundra]

The entire line after the tier 5 are like that 💀
Not just the smv56

[sacred needle]

Ik ik

[paper aspen]

at least its faster than the smv 64 :/

[tepid stump]

when did the bassoto get a turret 💀💀💀

[cunning tundra]

What did you expect on a turretless td?

[paper aspen]

🤣🤣

[cunning tundra]

Bourrasque and 5/1 imo

[paper aspen]

emil ii worth?

[tepid stump]

from what I've seen, it's somewhat alright, though turret isn't that good

[novel current]

Ok WG needs to get on this, but the AT-15 and the Tortoise have incorrect damage models... the cupolas are a different shape to where it covers the red and makes it look like it can be penned

[balmy compass]

Alot of tanks have that sort of thing

[novel current]

hah. Seems like WG not caring again

[balmy compass]

It’s been around for a very long time
Like machine guns mounted on tanks are of the same thing you’re talking about

[novel current]

Yeah... If it's been around for awhile, then it further proves the company's carelessness for the game

[balmy compass]

Or that is hasn’t been a big enough problem to deal with

[keen nimbus]

hi

how to hit T1 heavy and M4 sherman

[wind thistle]

I mean the M4 Sherman armor is pretty easy to penetrate

[keen nimbus]

i cant

[wind thistle]

What tank do you use

[keen nimbus]

I use KV1 , the only place I deal damage is under the car

[halcyon lotus]

bruh

[zealous bloom]

Which gun u use, is it 122mm?

[keen nimbus]

122 i use golden ammor APCR, 85 i use AP

[zealous bloom]

Don't use 122 in KV-1 bruh

[keen nimbus]

the 122 is the only one i can hit the heavy tank

[halcyon lotus]

122mm is trash, run the gun leading to the kv1s

[keen nimbus]

buy the way how to block dame in KV1

[halcyon lotus]

hulldown, hide your hull using irregular terrain like hills. can also sidescrape i think

[zealous bloom]

Sidescraping is best way

[sleek apex]

Use the long 85mm gun instead

[keen nimbus]

There was a time when I was so nervous and my hands were shaking so I shook the car all over

[wind thistle]

Damn that's alot of blocked damage

[keen nimbus]

that game i have meet 2 KV2

[halcyon lotus]

those are automated bots, that’s why

[sacred trail]

At least the SMV 64 onwards has a comfortable 400 alpha to play aggressive with

[keen nimbus]

I don't know, bot plays pretty well

[paper aspen]

yea true

[keen nimbus]

but I can't win with KV1 so hard

[halcyon lotus]

most bots always or usually have:

• “_2015” at the end of their name
• Legendary avatars
• No clan

also kv1s is easy to play, just learn how to hulldown

[sacred trail]

It’s absolutely cracked in big boss if you’re the boss since you’re clicking them for about 600 every 5 seconds. I think I got 14 kills one round with most of them happening on my first life while holding the B divot on Hellas

[sleek apex]

The KV-1 seems better now after the turret buff

[halcyon lotus]

it got a turret buff? since when?

[sleek apex]

The mantlet seems better now after the pbr remodel

[wind thistle]

How good is the M6 heavy in the American branch?

Want to know before I even attempt to research it

[halcyon lotus]

it never got a pbr model

[neon sentinel]

Good armor and a few tanks cant pen you frontal, good gun too, I like it

[wind thistle]

Oh ok

[cunning tundra]

Very good imo
It has one of the best dpms at tier 6, great armor and dep, Can be used hulldown, front line or side scraping.

[daring merlin]

And it leads to the T29 which is a great tank at tier 7

[wind thistle]

So like, side scraping is like, protecting the hull by only exposing the sides of the tank while behind cover right? And since the side is like at a specific angle, the enemy shell normally ricochets.

[cunning tundra]

Yes, here is an example with the maus

[cunning tundra]

Or go hulldown, it has 10 depression, so hulldown is easy, it also hides the cupola and basically every weakspot it has.

[plucky summit]

Is that Black Prince? I must have missed it being mentioned

[cunning tundra]

This is the M6\

[plucky summit]

It looks so… flat

[lilac mica]

I need tips for the BC 25t, I played 27 battles and I literally survived only two times 💀
I know how to play it but i’m pretty sure I do mistakes sometimes (I can bust some 3k games but most of the time is around 1800-2000)

[plucky summit]

Oh no wonder, you used PC’s armor profile 😂

[cunning tundra]

Flank
Full clip someone
Hide
Repeat

[balmy compass]

You don’t go very aggressive, and don’t go by yourself, you find ways to get around people and dump a clip then get back into cover
Repeat

[cunning tundra]

I don't have it, but I have the tier 6 and the bourrasque
Go to the med/light side, then destroy everyone there (hardest part)
Then, go to the back of the heavy side (flank) and grind hem with the other lights and meds that survived
That is my playstyle

[balmy compass]

You can’t really just go med side and slaughter people
Especially when you don’t have a very high clip potential or very high dump rate

[cunning tundra]

I didn't tell him to go alone tho

[balmy compass]

Why trust your team that much 💀

[cunning tundra]

Platooning exists tho
Also, are you just thinking of reasons for him to not accept my tips?

[odd cove]

you shouldn't depend on your team to make smart moves

[cunning tundra]

I did not even say "Wait until your team destroys all the mediums"...
I told him to go to the med side and destroy all the enemies there with the team, I didn't tell him to solo, or to wait until his team kills everyone..

[dark schooner]

Will a Tiger 2 with the tier 9 gun be able to pen the lower plate of a tiger 2 that has enhanced armor?

[placid panther]

lmao you guys came here

[native hearth]

Is WZ-112-2 worth buying?

[daring merlin]

Sure, strong tank if played correctly

[native hearth]

Isnt it like a copy of IS3?

[daring merlin]

No its much stronger then IS3, its more like a 252U without the large lower plate

[wispy seal]

What is the fastest t8 tech tree heavy?

[solid gate]

Heavy amx line

[wispy seal]

K

[solid gate]

be careful, these tanks are paper

[daring merlin]

The tier 8 after the Tiger P is nice combo of speed with armor

[cunning tundra]

The vk45.01 is boring imo

[thorny smelt]

You mean the VK 45.02 (P) Ausfuhrung A? Porsche Tiger II?

[daring merlin]

The baby Tiger

[thorny smelt]

VK 45.03?

[daring merlin]

Vk 02 A

[thorny smelt]

It's technically the Porsche version of Tiger II, VK 45.02 (P). VK 45.03 is the prototype of Tiger II.

[daring merlin]

Is it in game? Cause the VK 02A is the tank after Tiger P

[thorny smelt]

Yes. VK 45.02 (P) A is one of the tier 8 tanks after Tiger P.

[daring merlin]

Nope

VK.02A

[thorny smelt]

What VK.02? Please elaborate

[thorny smelt]

Yes it is.

[tepid stump]

nah the name

He probably meant it's 'VK 45.02 A' instead of VK 45.02 (P) A

pretty much the same though, so I ain't sure why

[daring merlin]

https://blitzhangar.com/en/tank/vk-4502-a

[thorny smelt]

I'm used to VK 45.02 (P) A since it is the Porsche version of Tiger II.

[tepid stump]

yes, that's the tank Skelly Man is talking about

@thorny smelt eh fair

kind of like pronouncing 'gif'

[daring merlin]

Like i said originally. Good combo of speed with armor. For a heavy

[tepid stump]

somewhat yeah, though tungsten is probably whats keeping it alive

[daring merlin]

Its an added bonus

[tepid stump]

one of its advantages over Tiger 2 ig, though it's maneuverbility is only slightly better than Tiger

[daring merlin]

I have both. If i feel like being a bunker with quick reload its Tiger 2, if i feel i need some speed i take the VK 02A. Not many of them in battle, so new players dont know its armor

[tepid stump]

am I wrong for bullying VK 45's with my VK 168

[thorny smelt]

Well it's Porsche vs Porsche

[daring merlin]

The VK168 is slow AF. 🐌

Unless its in special mode games, then the 168 is fun

[hollow belfry]

nah

the top speed isn’t much higher but the gap in traverse and acceleration is noticeable

[cunning tundra]

A tiger 2 with tungsten shells but weak armor for a heavy imo

[halcyon lotus]

how does the tiger 2 have weak armor? you just need to angle the hull or go hulldown

[obsidian mirage]

Do you mean prototipe Tiger II (Tiger II without side skirt)?

[sleek apex]

VK 45.02 (P) is a competing design to the VK 45.03 (H) [which was accepted into service as Tiger II].

[cunning tundra]

I was talking about the vk45 tho

[thorny smelt]

Yeah... The Henschel design won

[solid gate]

Is tog 2 worth getting

[calm panther]

does anyone know when the valk tanks will come back

[cunning tundra]

Yes 100%. I have it
2k dpm on tier 6 with the hp of a tier 7 heavy in exchange for speed and armor
And it is the best t6 at gravity

[dawn raptor]

I have 2 aces on Tog II xD

[cunning tundra]

I got one on my first 10 battles with it xD
3.7k damage

[dawn raptor]

Bro, i have 4 battles on Tog xD

[cunning tundra]

NICE XD

[dawn raptor]

I have 2700 average damage on it 😂

[cunning tundra]

Same LMAO, I have about 2.3-2.5k
Anyways

[dawn raptor]

Do nice

[solid gate]

I will colect gold until it get in shop

Yesterday i buy su 100 y

[keen nimbus]

how to hit T1 heavy why i always hit "ricochet"

[sleek apex]

Aim at the flat part of the transmission bulk

[keen nimbus]

i got ricochet when hit that place

[sleek apex]

What gun are you using? also wait for the circle to shrink before shooting to make sure you are hitting the area.

[keen nimbus]

i use 85mm in KV1

I thought red is thick armor, why is it like this ?

[sleek apex]

You are looking at WoT PC hitskins, not WoT Blitz

[keen nimbus]

can you give me the source ?

[sleek apex]

I use Armor Inspector app

[keen nimbus]

thanks

[sleek apex]

You're welcome

[keen nimbus]

buy the way, what is hull down ?

oh my god , it's have map inspector, so good

I only know one tactic is to not capture the hill is to lose

[sleek apex]

You basically hide your hull behind an obstacle, only exposing the turret to enemy fire.

[keen nimbus]

now im KV1 should i play KV1s or T34

[sleek apex]

Depends on which you prefer more over the other

I suggest trying out other tier V tanks first to figure out your playstyle preference.

[keen nimbus]

i love heavy tank but i allways lose when play KV1

but if i play tank destroyer i have high chance to win

[sleek apex]

You should try out the T1 Heavy then, just face forward, hide the lower part and you will bounce many shots.

[solid gate]

hey any recommendations for medium tanks that are good for flanking and stuff? (sorry im a bit of a new player ish)

like a line of tanks or something xd

[sleek apex]

Flanking medium? Probably the TVP line

[keen nimbus]

do you have a source for how to play each map? @sleek apex

[solid gate]

tyty! will try

[sleek apex]

Watch or read WoTB map guides, and over time you will also learn how to play on different maps based on experience.

[solid gate]

just curious, how about the STB-1 line in japan? would you know how those play?

[tight storm]

STB itself is Great but tanks before are pain

[solid gate]

i see interesting

[solid gate]

what ur thoughts on tvp line?

[tight storm]

Line to TVP learns you a lot about difrent playstales

You have to play difrent skoda tier 6 and 34/100

TVP VTU is similar to 34/100 but tier 9 and 10 are similar to tier 6

I dont know do you understand what I am saing

So line to TVP is better than line t STB

But STB is worth this pain

In my opinion you should try TVP line it’s just better for begginers

[tight storm]

So those are my thoughts 😁

[solid gate]

i see ty for the inputs!

[tight storm]

But if you are new better would be some heavy line

With heavies you would learn something about hulldown or sidescrap

[solid gate]

my heavy tank rn is chi se

[tight storm]

It’s really good

[solid gate]

how would u play chi se?

[tight storm]

you cant turn your turret to left or right

[solid gate]

im looking into tvp line since i want to flank people and encircle hahaha

[tight storm]

Because it has really weak sides of turret

[solid gate]

i mean i asked about flanking mediums cuz of that*

[tight storm]

When playing meds and lights you have to look at the mini map and read it with understanding

Because meds and lights dont forgive almost any mistakes

[solid gate]

oooo i see

[tight storm]

You know they have not a lot hp and No armor

[odd cove]

most of the line is very situational

and i wonder why the vtu doesn’t have an autoreloader gun

[tight storm]

Maybe because of 34/100 doesnt has it either

[odd cove]

that doesn’t explain anything

[tight storm]

Or maybe because wg want to people learn different playstales

[odd cove]

guess the blueprints or documents didn’t mention it to have that kind of gun

but anyways, if you want a reliable flanker go for the t100 @solid gate

[tight storm]

It’s harder to play then TVP

[odd cove]

the line is a bit more complicated but that’s it

yes

[solid gate]

is T100 a soviet light tank?

[tight storm]

I am just wondering which line I should grind just ended kran and dont know which take next

I would like some light

[odd cove]

i have every tech tree so i kind of know each playstyle so what’s yours

[tight storm]

I aleredy have sheridan so I know a lsomething about playing lights

[solid gate]

i saw somewhere that tvp 50/51 is op? which among the medium t10 tanks are like not op but more or less balanced?

[tight storm]

E50 m is solid

[keen nimbus]

oh my lord T1 heavy and TOG II so tanky

[odd cove]

tvp can be op in the right hands, 1200 potential clip damage every 23seconds + intershell

[keen nimbus]

how can i hit that front shell now

[odd cove]

e50m is a great starter tank for going into the medium and eventually light lines

[tight storm]

I know I will wait and grind chinese lights

[solid gate]

any other recommendations?

[odd cove]

well what do you like
progetto is also good

[solid gate]

anything xd just want to know the options haha

[tight storm]

Maybe wz 121

[odd cove]

eh, high alpha with almost no gd
113 does its job as well

[solid gate]

ok i try progetto

[tight storm]

Guys what was your first tier X

[odd cove]

after the progetto you’ll have a feel of how its gun mechanic works and you’ll have an idea of how to play the tvp

e100

[tight storm]

Thats funny thats my first tier X also

[odd cove]

maus was the second one before the vk72 was added to replace it on its line

[tight storm]

My second was sheridan, I know it was stupid but then i didnt know anything about tanks

[odd cove]

t92 is the best of that line

[tight storm]

I know it’s super good

[solid gate]

is the progetto line decent?

[tight storm]

It’s good