vehicles-discussion

[dark schooner]

Panther/M10 has always seemed kinda mid to me

[plucky summit]

It does have underwhelming penetration and armor

[dark schooner]

Also, does the type 62 or lansen C have a higher credit coefficient

[plucky summit]

Lansen does not have a calculated credit coefficient, but Type 62 has 164%, which is probably dated now

[dark schooner]

Ok

[hollow notch]

Lower tiers tend to have better coefficients than higher tiers, but higher tiers are more capable of putting out damage

[plucky summit]

I'd recommend Lowe, but they practically nerfed its skill ceiling =(

[dark schooner]

I don’t have a Lowe sadly

[plucky summit]

Well that's where I'd recommend one, but yeah, don't worry about it anymore

[dark schooner]

Ok I just bullied 3 tanks from a hull down position while at 400 hp. I see the advantages of a fire rate of 4 seconds. (I trained my crew to 75%)

[plucky summit]

[dark schooner]

I hit that poor kv2 in the top of their turret with an alpha roll

[plucky summit]

L + no 160 HP? + inaccurate + bad armor + slow + takes ages to reload

[dark schooner]

My heavies pushed the hill when they didn’t need to and died. I couldn’t fight a full hp heavy and td

[thorn pond]

i'm in love

[dark schooner]

The panther turns out to be incredible for brawling. A black prince randomly flanked light and I was forced into a 1 on 1 brawl and won at the cost of half my health

[raven jacinth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/728692332655935506/1056738250422767656/BT-gusenichno-katkovyj.png

[tulip knot]

With a black prince? How tf does a panther beat a bp at brawling

[limpid ether]

Probably just being mobile and circling around him

[dark schooner]

I refused to let the prince sidescrape me and they kept bouncing off my upper plate

[tulip knot]

they had a skill issue

[dark schooner]

Indeed. I still died though because I was bottom tier in the match and an RHM shot me in the back

[tulip knot]

Rip

[solid gate]

Affirmative

[limpid ether]

T110E4 or T110E3?

[halcyon lotus]

e3 is more newbie friendly, has better armor and has special consumables
e4 is better because it is more accurate and has a turret

[pulsar vale]

St emil or jpanther

[violet timber]

Jpanther

[inland gulch]

e4 is just worse e100 so get the e3

[halcyon lotus]

are they even comparable?

[solid gate]

quite

[hexed tulip]

Sup guys,is WZ 112 TM a good tank?

i got in from a snow globe

[halcyon lotus]

good tank but the chimera is better since it has better mobility, better alpha and slightly better armor

[hexed tulip]

i have them both,but prefer the chimera

[violet timber]

Chimera doesn’t have better armor

[halcyon lotus]

chimera’s turret is better due to it having a bigger gun mantlet and the frontal armor being more angled
the wz 122 tm’s turret is also angled but the weak spots are bigger compared to the chimera (when hulldown it’s 200-270 mm thick but at least it’s better than the chimera which is 203mm)

[violet timber]

The chimeras frontal turret is super flat, and pretty much any tank with at least 203mm of pen with go through

[sage sundial]

Chieftain T95 vs T54E2??

[violet timber]

T54E2 is better

[sage sundial]

Why

[solid gate]

T110E6

[halcyon lotus]

t54e2 has better alpha, better armor (if it wasn’t for the chieftain’s hatch), better penetration, and better hp

t54e2 also comes in store more often than the chieftain/t95

[narrow rampart]

How can you properly evaluate a tank with only 50% crew and without max modules?

[narrow rampart]

Because T54E2 can do everything Chief can do too but better. It has better alpha so mote versatile. And front hull is shaped a bit better compared to Chief.

[sage sundial]

Thx, But there is still too much of a price difference between the two

[west quiver]

See what i get out mine first snowglobe (ever)!

[hexed tulip]

bruh

[hexed tulip]

i got a dracula in mine

[orchid parcel]

Nice

[vast elk]

I got type 57 from globe, any tips? Is it a purely hulldown tank?

[solid gate]

yes because the lower plate extends

[vast elk]

Ic, thanks

[narrow rampart]

True and that's mostly because Shark is newer tank - and more popular - than Chief. I'd consider Chieftain to be a thicc medium rather than pure heavy

[cinder rivet]

Is the amx 30 1 er prototype a good tank? I might get it from auction when it hits 6-7k

[sand sage]

nerf type71

[solid gate]

buff type 71 side armor to 270mm

[shy nebula]

P1000 ratte when

[narrow rampart]

Yes. Typical medium with all-round around and good gun. Good tank especially for 7k gold

[royal charm]

100x E-25 units left in auction

[dark meadow]

Idk why people buy the e25

[royal charm]

Fun factor? Also it almost never goes for gold in shop

[lyric copper]

fun factor, first time to buy for gold in a while, funny camo etc

[royal charm]

Oh so now is a better price than those times

[dark schooner]

Turns out I can’t because I got the crew trained to 75% and I was able to win a one on one brawl with a BP and hull down against 3 tanks and win

[narrow rampart]

Sounds like enemies had skill issue but GG for you.

[vestal belfry]

me who dont like getting snowglobes (i just want a kpz 70 pls i beg you add it to the shop/auction) :

[weak plank]

Me grinding for 10 days not getting anything:LUCKY.

[wise moth]

Decent mobility, turret and -10 gun depression, but the gun is terrible

[tacit girder]

type 71 or 60tp

[dapper violet]

60tp

[copper swan]

how to play object 140 effectively, it seems like the turret is very weak and even the upper front plate as well

[tacit girder]

what should I grind?
E100
grille
Sheridan
obj263
type 71
foch

[limpid ether]

E100

[lilac mica]

Grille in the trash
Go for Type

[balmy compass]

Like a light tank with less camo but more DPM

[inland gulch]

E100 most friendly
Type 71 if you want to bully mediums (i hate those things)

On a side note
Grille sux now ever since that 640>600 nerf (idk why they did it tbh, should've just nerfed the reload if they wanted to reduce the DPM)

[thorny jolt]

is tortoise good?

[balmy compass]

Grille is fun to play when you get over the audacious camo

[solid gate]

if you play the 183 enough the grille's camo is amazing

[native mulch]

Is T-44 good?

[vestal belfry]

how do i wz-111 1-4 i researched it so its cool to learn about it first before going to the first battle

[tacit girder]

which one is most fun?

[balmy compass]

Grille (when you frontline)
Sheridan

[dark schooner]

In the defense of those 3 tanks, one of them was at half and the other one was a reloading kv2. The other one had no excuse

[surreal whale]

Hey! I've got a Keiler from yuletide snow globe. Is it good? I just recently bought t26e5 from auction, which ht would be better for 2v2, 3v3 tournaments?

[violet timber]

Both of them are good and fulfill different rolls

[lyric copper]

T26E5 for support + DPM
Keiler if you need to tank shells

[solid gate]

the t26e5 probably but the caernarvon is better

[visual spear]

!!!!!!---how much doest it cost Minotauro Moderno camouflage?---!!!!!!

[kind flicker]

Is it worth to get the chieftain t95?

[violet timber]

Yes

[pine moss]

5K Gold

[boreal marlin]

Did anyone get somua sm

[visual spear]

tx

[pine moss]

I mean I got it from a snowglobe last christmas

[solid gate]

favorite tank?

[limber berry]

The WZ is my favorite

[dapper violet]

W h i c h

[violet timber]

I like the Type personally

[dapper violet]

Aaaaa which

[lyric oriole]

nah, Sherman is better

[dark schooner]

I personally prefer the obj

[tulip knot]

The Type

[solid gate]

🤔

[shy frost]

@native mulch t44 is really good med for its tier, it has good turret armor, small, fast, which means u can brawl pretty well in it

• it has 7 deg of gun depression so u can go hulldown

Just dont use alpha gun, it's awful, take the high dpm 100mm gun and ur fine

[violet timber]

The T-44 isn’t that good. It’s armor is meh, gun is meh, speed is meh. There’s nothing really special about it

[plucky summit]

It's very mediocre, it can't even leverage its armor that well

[dark schooner]

laughs in t54 ltwt letting me skip to the tier 9 Russian medium

[tulip knot]

Ltwt is godly

[dark schooner]

69 km/h without and provisions is insane

[violet timber]

Ltwt isn’t what it used to be 😔

[dark schooner]

Is improved assembly worth it if I only get 78 extra hitpoints?

[lyric copper]

on what tank

[dark schooner]

Lansen C

[violet timber]

Yeah, because the armor is useless

[dark schooner]

Armor or hitpoints on the panther?

[lyric copper]

HP

[plucky summit]

I have uh, doubts about this following rules

[dim shard]

Anyone has Object 274a advices? I never fought it so I have no idea about anything, and I don’t want to potentially be a burden to my teammates by not knowing anything about it

[vast lintel]

Well, it's not advertisement or self promotion

[solid gate]

@vast lintel you do know it shows the name of who started the petition right?

[plucky summit]

It’s not advertising the petition itself? 🤔

[balmy compass]

I think it’s like a CS-52-LIS but tier VIII

[misty wing]

I feel like the 274a was the least bought crate tank released this past year

[balmy compass]

I feel like Lansen C can compete with that

[violet timber]

🧠

[misty wing]

oh yeah I forgot about the lansen

[balmy compass]

I personally think the Lansen is cool and I really like it despite it being a worse M4 Rev
And the Moose camo is super epic lol

Yes
Remove the brain from the skull

[violet timber]

I’d say give your brain to science, but…

[pine moss]

Could the IS-4 get a new legendary camo?, it’s current one isn’t great.

[ornate heart]

i like the smv cc 64 but wargaming has to nerf its 1 shot gun

you get too many ammoracks

[lyric copper]

ammorack badge/counter when

[ornate heart]

at the rate of how many ammoracks you get you could get 3 ammoracks in 1 game

[solid wolf]

when pbr of this tank 😢

[royal charm]

T28 Defender worth it? I want to know your opinions on this tank

[plucky summit]

It’s basically a low HP heavy

[solid wolf]

@royal charm its bad i have it before , im saving your gold pls fnd other tanks , my advice is wait for last offer the only worth on the auction rn is t54e3

[thorny smelt]

I find that it is a bit better version than T28 Prototype

[plucky summit]

A bit better? It’s very easy to be much better

[thorny smelt]

This means:

T28 Defender > T28 Prototype

[royal charm]

So is it > or >>>>>
How much better?

[royal charm]

Is that a new tank? Or did u mean the Shark. I already have the Shark

[thorny smelt]

I'd say =^OwO^=

[glad crescent]

Fresh opening from the Snow Globe! Is this good?

[royal charm]

The only tank that remotely interests me in the auction atm is the T28 Def. But theres also wave 3 coming.... Hm

[solid wolf]

oh.. i see. better wait for mext offer then..

[thorny smelt]

Yeah

[solid wolf]

@royal charm its bad i already have it im saving u from bad spending dont get it.

[thorny smelt]

As someone who never regrets owning it, it is good with in the hands of a good handler of the tank.

[royal charm]

Hmm getting mixed signals here

[glad crescent]

I expected for everything, but not for this tank destroyer..... At least better than nothing. Just I need to learn to use it.

[royal charm]

@thorny smelt @solid wolf Can you guys fight to death? Ill listen to the winner

[thorny smelt]

It is more of a sniper to support tank destroyer. The armor can be HESH-ed or sometimes HE-d but the gun is good.

[royal charm]

The armour seems pretty decent from what Ive seen in the enemy teams tho

[solid wolf]

cheeks of the turret and 2 copula are weakpsots and sides u cant rely on them . so if enemy just zaw your sides is damage for you and turret is limited its not 360° turret just mind u

[royal charm]

Oooh its not 360? I really thought it was

[glad crescent]

I apparently owning the T28 Defender (got from the 2020 Yuletide Express Snow Globe). It is good as well. Back to the GSOR 1008, the armor is very decent, at least to me.

[thorny smelt]

143 on both sides

[royal charm]

The only Defender I have is the Mark 1... And the Y5 tanks

[solid wolf]

nope its not its not rotates completely and traverse of it is slow if u left open to meds and light its game over for you

[daring merlin]

GSOR has no armor

[solid wolf]

@royal charm i thinkt those tanks are enough especially u have he mk1 better save the gold..

[thorny smelt]

Well you can go for it.

[glad crescent]

Agreed.

[royal charm]

Hmm. How much gold will it go at a minimum?

[daring merlin]

GOSR is a HE magnet

[thorny smelt]

It was usually cost at 8500 gold when it is sold in Store

[solid wolf]

nooo dont buy t28 defemder is bad and poop noooo save your gold for next offer 😭😭😭

[glad crescent]

I will suffer with that TD, that's fix! 😂

[daring merlin]

GSOR is a fun tank

[thorny smelt]

You're just having nightmares with the T28 Defender because you're not playing it right

[royal charm]

@solid wolf what tanks you enjoy and what tanks (which heaviums) do you hate?

[solid wolf]

its bad its baad! youll see its bad and never good what the hell!!

@royal charm all heaviums

[royal charm]

Can you give me some concrete examples

[thorny smelt]

Well you're bad for not playing it correctly and that's a FACT

[solid wolf]

amx line any heavy that cant block a shell for a team they're another target range for enemy thats why i hate them.

[royal charm]

Maybe I should save my gold for Lycan if it comes in auction

[daring merlin]

Lycan is a great tank at tier 7

[solid wolf]

no its horrible , its horrible t28 defender is bad and its a fact they have already a MK1 which is the only better on the defenders. u never know maybe they regret it . then its your fault , im saving @daring merlin to wasteful spending.

[thorny smelt]

Haha... haha... haha... NO

[daring merlin]

Grunt106 isnt going to waste money on T28 Defender

[solid wolf]

@royal charm for me save your gold i have that horrible of a tank amd its unforgiving if u dont understand its weakness

[solid wolf]

good. dont buy that poop t28
mk1 is the only better tank there.

@thorny smelt im saving u from being blamed if they buy it then they hate it .

[daring merlin]

I have the MK1. T28 Defender is waste of gold

[thorny smelt]

Well if you say so then they'll follow your decision.

It is still how the player handles the tank that makes the tank good or bad. I'm a heavy and TD main myself so I don't have problems with the T28D.

[royal charm]

🍿

[daring merlin]

No the slow speed and long reload between shells makes it a poor choice

[royal charm]

This December I got the following tanks btw:

• Keiller, Action X (snowglobes)
• Defender Mk 1, Borrasque, Dracula, E-25 (auction)

The Mk 1 is by far my favourite out of them

[solid wolf]

t28 defemder is bad without good support and in asia u know players here are mostly idiots that no map or basically seeing blind.

[royal charm]

Tbh EU is basically Asia 2.0 since the Russians immigrated here

[thorny smelt]

Oooh I love the Bourrasque

[daring merlin]

I have all those, all fun except E25

[solid wolf]

mine i got duplicate (5k gold) i hate my snowglobe experience so i just buy t34 heavy amd i love it . i have a heart for old premium tanks.

[royal charm]

Borr is my 2nd favourite out of my acquisitions

[solid wolf]

i prefer old premium tanks , theres a special thing to them thank new premium tanks. i love old premium tanks, news ones not so much

[royal charm]

Lots of old prems are powercrept to heck

[solid wolf]

but they still kick

[daring merlin]

T34 is very situational, the Lowe can be kinda fun, and it makes good coin

[thorny smelt]

Löwe has some good traverse speed so you can wiggle

[royal charm]

T34 is ok but I dont really play it

[solid wolf]

no lowe at the moment and i also love t34 heavy too so i get it

Loewe hmm i dunno no gold atm..

[daring merlin]

T34 is hull down tank only, it has great pen. But if not hull down its an easy kill

[solid wolf]

hmm .. not at all as long u have team mates u can give your armor and heavy gun

[royal charm]

Moving on. Do you guys like Chimera?

[solid wolf]

my next is lowe , ill try to get it but hayst , i still not being diciplined on saving gold.. i want lowe so much.

[daring merlin]

Its good fun tank, great turret, hull is meh

[solid wolf]

like it but it sells like pancakes amd gone when i check it damn its good too much

[thorny smelt]

It's a medium slapper. I don't play as much as the Skoda T27.

[daring merlin]

Its a great peak and boom tank, if you like that style

[dark schooner]

Is the SMV line a good line for players that don’t like to play TDs because of their lack of turrets?

[thorny smelt]

This is still one of my bests.

[royal charm]

That was my first T10

@thorny smelt it seems we are on a similar mathematical wavelength. Speak more about the auction tanks please

[thorny smelt]

Why?

[thorny smelt]

The 'Never Buy 60TP' still lives. It was a full HP ammo rack detonation.

[royal charm]

Which tanks are worthwhile?

[thorny smelt]

I dunno. Listen to our resident crate addict.

[dark schooner]

Does the minotauro turret turn 360 degrees?

[thorny smelt]

No

[dark schooner]

Still better than no turret?

[thorny smelt]

It depends on how you play it. I think it's 45 degrees on both sides.

[dark schooner]

I don’t like playing TDs because they don’t have turrets, and I heard the minotauro line is good

[daring merlin]

60TP doesnt get as many ammo racks as you think, if you poke sideways to high alpha tank then you run a chance. T71 is another strong heavy

[thorny smelt]

The majority are casemates. Only a handful that are turreted like the T110E4, FV215b 183, and Minotauro.

[safe cedar]

T71 is à light tank lol

[daring merlin]

Type 71

[dark schooner]

Yeah that and I couldn’t find a lot of places to position my tank. Especially when I couldn’t bounce effectively. That combined with the gun dispersion are why I quit the jagdtiger

[daring merlin]

Jag E 100 is fun TD

[thorny smelt]

There are mobile casemate tank destroyers like Ho-Ri and WZ-113G FT but it is still up to you. Jageroo is more of close-range assault tank destroyer.

[daring merlin]

Play the Jagaroo as a close heavy support

[dark schooner]

That close range didn’t help much when heavies penned me (I had my lower plate hidden)

[thorny smelt]

But it is severely cursed with low rolls

[daring merlin]

Not really

[dark schooner]

I loved the DPM though after I killed my winrate getting the gun

[safe cedar]

That's just high alpha tanks in general

[thorny smelt]

It's a good TD when it is in the good hands. That's why it is called 'The Broomstick of Doom'.

[thorny smelt]

Yes 😭

[safe cedar]

When you roll 600 in jagd, lol

[daring merlin]

The HE feels so nice in Jagaroo when you get the chance

[thorny smelt]

Yes. It severely hurts the DPM.

[safe cedar]

Not really, it evens out generally.

[thorny smelt]

It was an opportunity for me though when the enemy team have IS-7 and 60TP which means kaboom tanks for me. I only managed to ammo rekt the 60TP.

[safe cedar]

True but without rng the game would be stale

[thorny smelt]

As stale as mushy noodles

[daring merlin]

The Jagaroo can splash damage any tank in game with HE

E3 vs E4. What are your thoughts? Btw I have both

[thorny smelt]

T110E3 I guess

[limpid ether]

I'm currently going for E4 rn and T30 is such a good tank, but I'd go E3 for the armor, I will have em both eventually

[thorny smelt]

Both would do like I did with Grille 15 and Jageroo

[daring merlin]

The E3 is strong, but i find E4 more fun to play

[limpid ether]

The turret and better accuracy+reload on the E4 might have been the cause.

[daring merlin]

I just find the E4 is more jack of all trades. E3 feels like the 268-4

[thorny smelt]

I've been thinking of getting the T110E3 in awhile but I have to farm FXP to get to at least the Doom Turtle.

[daring merlin]

I researched the XP for the E3 awhile ago, just had to make some coin in Boss mode to get E3 and 4005

[misty wing]

E3 is the 268/4 with actual TD gun stats

[daring merlin]

268-4 accuracy terrible

[limpid ether]

Always thought Jpe100 is the better 268/4 same alpha

[thorny smelt]

Funni 690 alpha

[daring merlin]

Jagaroo is 800 alpha, 268-4 is 690

[limpid ether]

I've always thought that jageroo alpha is 700, guess I'm wrong

[daring merlin]

The E100 alpha is 680

[balmy compass]

No
E 100 is 640

[daring merlin]

Close enough geez

[plucky summit]

“Close enough” doesn’t cut it

[daring merlin]

Find a girlfriend lol

[plucky summit]

I have one 🙃

[balmy compass]

:0

[thorny smelt]

Grille 15 was nerfed from 640 down to 600 but the AP pen was buffed from 279 to 300.

[balmy compass]

So that’s why I can pen everything in the Grille

[thorny smelt]

Yesssss~~~

[solid gate]

i think there is something wrong with the fv201 (A45) that may need to be fixed.

[daring merlin]

I go looking for grills while i drive my E50m at them lol

[plucky summit]

This issue exists for several tanks, like that one, Cromwell B, M2 Medium, and probably more that I won’t bother to name 💀

[solid gate]

i am sorry that i posted that much but i don't think the A45 should have more gundepression than the height of its rear

[balmy compass]

Just wait for it to get PBR

[plucky summit]

That’s gonna be a LOT of waiting

[solid gate]

if its like 3 per update then we gotta wait over 200 updates which would include new tanks being added in with it that they have to make pbr for all the old ones.

[limpid ether]

Not to mention that fact that we might have to buy new phones because dear God those PBR files are gonna be insane on the storage

[daring merlin]

Well i hope it doesnt keep you awake at night

[plucky summit]

If they stick with updating 3 tanks per, then we’ll need ≈85 if FV201 is last

[solid gate]

i am suprised that you know the count of the current tanks that are not with pbr yet

[plucky summit]

I just assumed 50 lol

Also assuming they ignore lower tiers because who cares

I mean, might as well say ≈150 updates total if we were to include those speedrun tiers

[solid gate]

is it counting the tanks the were turned into collectors during the 5.5 update for example the tanks i can no longer get, examples, Pz. 38H, Pz II G, and Pz. Jag. I

[plucky summit]

Yes

Give my FT AC PBR 😎

[daring merlin]

Ok Rainman

[limpid ether]

T82 PBR and howitzer please

[supple hearth]

Give my Tiger Porschy a PBR

[solid gate]

sadly i was not before the 5.5 update so i do not own many of the low tier collectors but i want them all, i wish i had the Pz. Jag. I since i heard it was the best tier 2 td.

[limpid ether]

I have the panzerjager 1 in my
old 2016 account(as well as T82).

I don't use my 2016 account much and I also didnt play wotb much before 5.5 happened because old 9 yr old me sucks at playing MMOs

[daring merlin]

Really why play tier 1 or 2?

Or anything below tier 6 really

[limpid ether]

Nostalgia, of the old times when people collectively sealclub tier 4 and also on good old mirage where I can shoot through the train tracks in my pz38t n.A and club unsuspecting nubs who probably think I'm hacking

[daring merlin]

Well sure some of the "old" maps make a nice trip down memory lane, nice place to visit as long as its not too long.

[limpid ether]

God just playing a single battle with Alecto made me remember why I'm such a sealclubber.

Matildas, lots of bots who don't know about tactics and just rush, low tiers are such fun

[daring merlin]

Sure like those guys with 20,000 plus battles who's average damage is less then 600. Those clowns make me laugh when i see them in game lol

[odd cove]

just because i deliberately shoot at red spots doesn’t mean you can make fun of me

[plucky summit]

I only want FT AC PBR so I can waddle around in training rooms and look swag

[daring merlin]

Hey we all have games where you spectate a teamate, and wonder WTF. You check there stats after game and go "new player learning" its when you see people with 20,000 battles where you think WTF you should know better

[plucky summit]

Some players just have fun playing the game at all

[daring merlin]

Rinse wash repeat

Personally i play to have fun. I try to do it in a team environment

[thorn folio]

Why is this line neglected so much?

[inland gulch]

neglected?

[daring merlin]

Ho Ri is great TD

Chi Ri tier 7 very good as well

[solid gate]

turretless

[upbeat mural]

In your opinion, what is the best tank for every nation?

[thorn folio]

It's one of the least played TD lines despite having nothing but bangers of vehicles. Like, I don't get why more people don't play these tanks

[solid gate]

panther 2 for german

[daring merlin]

Pick a tier

[pallid flame]

they mean any tank

[royal charm]

What nation tank should I put the D-2 on?

[solid gate]

polish

[upbeat mural]

@daring merlin Any tank idc the tier

[daring merlin]

Well Tiger2 isnt as strong as E100, but pound for pound Tiger2 is strongest German

[thorn glacier]

No literally starting from SPG that is def one of the most solid lines I’ve played

[solid gate]

ms1 for soviet

[daring merlin]

The E100 is best line to grind. Not a bad tank in the line

[solid gate]

fv183 for uk

[daring merlin]

Death Star really?? You are a sucker for punishment lol

[thorn glacier]

Vickers CR would be my British nomination. You can pound on the 8s and keep up with the 10s

[royal charm]

Why Polish? Is it a Polish MG?

[solid gate]

wat u mean

[thorn folio]

It really is, like the tier 9 especially just feels so good

[royal charm]

The D-2

[daring merlin]

It is a good line

[thorn glacier]

So is the Japanese Med line, the type 61 is prob my favorite tank of all time

[daring merlin]

The Type 57 is my favorite Japanese tank

[solid gate]

wat is D-2?

[royal charm]

Yesterday's free gift

[inland gulch]

oh you meant unpopular

[violet timber]

US: E5
Germany: E100
Russia: 907
Britain: Skonk or Badger
Japan: Type 71
China: 5A
France: Bat-Chat
European Nation: Kran

[solid gate]

for us i would say t25/2

[thorn folio]

Yeah, the tier 10 could probably use the same gun depression and gun angles as the tier 9 though. Kinda spooks me seeing the gun depression and gun angles being quite a bit worse

[copper swan]

you may want to replace E5 with another tank like concept 1b or sheridan

[dark schooner]

I think I’m done playing lights at tier 10

[violet timber]

No, I do not want to replace it.

[daring merlin]

E5, kinda meh

[dark schooner]

Spotting is useless when your team doesn’t do anything now that the enemy tanks are spotted

[violet timber]

E5 is one of the better heavies in the game atm

[daring merlin]

Thats cause no one plays it after nerf lol

[glossy trench]

this is a more appropriate chat room for this...

[dark schooner]

Hell, half the time I even keep the tank destroyers distracted and my team doesn’t shoot at them

[daring merlin]

Concept 1B has fantastic turret. Good speed and reload-DPM

[thorn folio]

To be fair, it is their opinion

[plucky summit]

Oof

[violet timber]

Oh look, chicken man is here

I finally got my hands on the T-2020, and I find it to be incredibly average, but fun

[balmy compass]

A wild ChickenMan7777 has appeared!

[plucky summit]

I liked T-2020 when it first came out :p

[copper swan]

D-2 Model 1926 AA machine gun attachment fits best for which tank?

[glossy trench]

thats what im on the fence about, 1b is a great tank and i guess its desireable, but i cannot get along with it, havent gotten a good battle and just not enjoying it, could sell for 7.5k gold.... the amx 57 is in auction rn and ive always wanted it. ik thats crazy a tier 10 for a 7, thoughts?

[violet timber]

It feels like a very average soviet heavy at this point, which isn't bad

[daring merlin]

Just because a tank is good does not mean it's suits your playstyle. If you don't like a tank find one you do

[glossy trench]

yea thats kinda what im leaning towards, most people probably think thats crazy though

[daring merlin]

It's your playing experience not anybody else's

[plucky summit]

Everyone was so quick to call it trash because it wasn't as good as Obj. 252U, and that's a logically faulty way to think about it

People probably have confused my adamant arguing for T-2020 as if I thought T-2020 was OP or even strong

It just wasn't trash, it was still capable

[violet timber]

Well, the 1b is kinda special right now, but it's not especially good. The 13 57 is unique at tier 7, whereas you can get the same "hulldown high dpm" gameplay from other tanks at tier 10

[glossy trench]

im gunna sell it, ive already sold m4 and carro so its not like im keeping the good ones anyway

[violet timber]

Got 2k in my first game ever with it, so it's certainly capable. I think I can get it to perform pretty well with some more playtime

[daring merlin]

1B is beast at hull down, yes some others are strong but not 100% same. If you sell 1B you can always buy back later

[plucky summit]

After the buff, I found that teams actually considered it as a replacement to a lack of 252U, which was very comforting to me

[violet timber]

I think the next tank I'll put some real playtime into though is the type 57

[daring merlin]

I love the Type 57. Strong tank

[plucky summit]

Me too, whenever I feel like it

[glossy trench]

it can definitely do good, its not a bad tank at all, ive done alright just not enjoyable

[daring merlin]

You play to have fun. I have some strong tanks that dont match my playstyle

[violet timber]

Asked for some recommended equipment for the 57 and got a wild loadout that actually works really well, super fun tank that you can really make have a great gun or super tanky

[glossy trench]

ive been playing for 12 years now, i only play for fun if i was trying to comp that long id have a heart attack long ago

[plucky summit]

Dang, so like, is even World of Tanks 12yo?
The 10th came sometime recent

[daring merlin]

Its like light tanks and me, we dont get along unless its the T54lte

[violet timber]

World of tanks officially released 2011, but it did have alpha and beta phases

[glossy trench]

yes wot was released in 2010 as a beta with 2-3 maps capped at tier 2, blitz was released 2014-15ish i believe, started on full version switched over to blitz awhile ago

dont quote it but wg made me a ape long ago

@plucky summit you draw tanks?

[plucky summit]

Thousands of them

[dark schooner]

Finally had a game where I damage every member of the enemy team

[glossy trench]

lets see some man thats actually awesome

[daring merlin]

Good job

[plucky summit]

If you cruise up the #blitz-art channel, you’ll find them littered around

[dark schooner]

The e75 scared me a bit. Any suggestions on what I can do to improve?

[glossy trench]

sounds good, sheep side scrap and be aware of where teammates are, take hits and let them pop out and shoot

[dark schooner]

Not sure if I’m supposed to be taking hits as a light tank..

[glossy trench]

e75?

[plucky summit]

He was talking about playing the T-100 LT, riley mistakened your encounter with E75 as what tank you played

[dark schooner]

An e75 was unexpectedly around a corner and almost killed me

[glossy trench]

oh my apologies haha, yea id try not to front line a t100 if you can avoid it

[solid gate]

just dont get hit

[glossy trench]

in that case just win

[dark schooner]

I was able to flank around on port bay. I need to learn positions on other maps though

I’d be so much better with better map knowledge

[daring merlin]

The number one thing to do is spot the tanks so your teammates can react to where the enemy are

[glossy trench]

hop in a training room and fly around

[dark schooner]

The issue I have with that is sometimes my teammates don’t really react to where they are..

[dapper violet]

sometimes they can't

[daring merlin]

Sometimes people dont look at the mini map

[dark schooner]

Yeah.. a lot of times they see the 1 tank right in front of them and ignore the 3 on the hill

While it’s good to remove that one gun, if the other 3 are dealing damage something has to be done about it

[glossy trench]

just be as aware as you can be, not much you can do about other players tatics

[daring merlin]

If im on one side of map, and our light tank spots all the reds on other side, i will then move to flank them

[dark schooner]

You think playing in the runners vs rammers training room would help with map knowledge?

[daring merlin]

Just go in your own room and study maps

[glossy trench]

Honestly yea, and a fun way to do it

[dark schooner]

Welp, into the mines I go (my least favorite map because it’s tiny)

[daring merlin]

Mines. Go hill

Lights run to very top as fast as possible

[dark schooner]

The problem is I can’t do a lot from the hill because I only have 5 degrees of gun depression

So even if I were to see a tank I wanted to light up for 20 seconds, I couldn’t

[misty wing]

If you're actually on top, you barely need any

[daring merlin]

Lites go to the very top spot overlooking whole map. Defend area and spot

Who ever owns the top circle of map wins

[solid gate]

no they don't

[stiff fox]

they dont

[daring merlin]

Most of the time unless you blow it. You can shoot anyone from position. If your last alive then you might want to get mobile. Just dont go town

But some people simply cannot see the strategic advantage of taking the high ground, and to them I say oh well

[spring pivot]

Why my high score tank not loading? 4 error

[solid gate]

there's a reason the cap circle is not on the hill

[daring merlin]

Nope, but some bots want to try to cap way too soon

[plucky summit]

Currently a bug that crashes the game for players who see High Score, so it's out of MM until that's fixed

[spring pivot]

Thanks. Weird. No big deal I just like to get all birthday tanks finished.

[dark schooner]

Well, I used the hill to spot on mines

[daring merlin]

Good job

[dark schooner]

The fv was pissed when I bounced their shot though

[daring merlin]

At start of battle heavies need to hold hill. Lights and mediums go take the top. TD watches your 6

[dark schooner]

I need to start blind firing into those bushes because I didn’t see the fv until they fired

[daring merlin]

The little hill at there spawn with rock cover holds the reds TD. You can blind fire and see what happens

[dark schooner]

Tracer shells go brrr

[daring merlin]

You have to be careful not to expose yourself from the top spot. Bait a shell if you want to be sure

[stiff fox]

Is-5 ?

[daring merlin]

??

[stiff fox]

lol
how to play IS-5 well

[limpid ether]

Same as you play IS-3 just that is5 is faster

[stiff fox]

and how do you play is 3.

[limpid ether]

Play IS-3

[daring merlin]

Pike nose straight on reds, good side armor

[stiff fox]

[dark schooner]

Ok making td players angry is kinda funny

[daring merlin]

Side scrape or reverse side scrape. I like the 252U instead

[dark schooner]

I watched a grille completely miss a shell and they called it a ghost shell

[solid gate]

ghost because nobody saw where it went ong

[daring merlin]

Depending on the tank, some have bad dispersion

Badger and 268-4 and Death Star, shots go into another map

[violet timber]

Badger has good accuracy

[glossy trench]

death star dispersion will send a shell to another postal cod

[daring merlin]

Not at distance

[violet timber]

.317 not good enough for you?

[glossy trench]

only td that you can fully trust is grille, things just a laser

hit pixels 700m away

[plucky summit]

≈707m is the maximum flat range shot you can pull off

[glossy trench]

just using it as an example, i didnt know that though pretty interesting

[plucky summit]

It’s from map corner to corner 💀

[solid gate]

it's 720 actually

[plucky summit]

But my calculator says 707.1 😭

[solid gate]

interesting

[plucky summit]

Are Blitz maps not 500x500?

[solid gate]

no well most of them aren't

[plucky summit]

Dang, though I can understand if Copperfield is small

I'd be genuinely upset if CF was the same as Castilla

[solid gate]

copperfield isn't actually that small

[limpid ether]

No way

[daring merlin]

Anni or Smasher

[limpid ether]

Smasher.

[daring merlin]

Ive played Smasher, it seems more fun. Although i seem to get only tier 8 matches every time i play it

[limpid ether]

Eh, won't have much luck in Tier 7, only way to not get uptiered in wotb is to be tier 10 really

[daring merlin]

Well tier 8 seems the most popular. You get most matches at same tier

[limpid ether]

Tier 8 and 10 are very popular really

[daring merlin]

Just not sure if WG is making Smasher lower tier more often due to being strong tank

[limpid ether]

Not really, I've seen lots of downtiered Smashers whole playing my hellcat, it's just that tier 8 is really popular

[earnest pine]

What are tip and tricks, pros and cons and advantage and disadvantage of raumpanzer

[solid gate]

it is difficult to sell but it gives you a lot of money

its slow but tuff armor

u can use it to absorg damage for ur team

[thorn folio]

It's pretty nimble, doesn't have the highest of top speed but it's EPW/t is pretty good. You excel as bullying other mediums especially if they have lower pen like a pershing or T-44, and you have a pretty good gun as well. It's basically the pinnacle of the tier 8 premium pattons

[violet timber]

Pretty good med bully, ram can get quite thick

[halcyon lotus]

raumpanzer is an ok tank. first release was extremely expensive. it’s a support tank with the “shovel” being quite useful in some cases as it protects the hull. you can hulldown but watch out for your giant cupola.

Equipment Layout
Rammer, Improved Modules, Optics
Enhanced Laying Drive, Improved Assembly (extremely subjective), The right one idk i forgot the name
Refined Gun, Toolbox, High-End Consumables

btw don’t play the tank yet, it’s your first tier 8 and you seem to suck at your meds (especially the pudel)

[violet timber]

delivery system better

[halcyon lotus]

why so? it has good dpm

[solid gate]

how to play panther 2

[halcyon lotus]

i remember last month Amaunet85 said that the Panther 2 is more enjoyable with the 75mm gun so run that as it has better penetration and dpm. on the playstyle itself, try to hulldown in the tank and bully lights and mediums through ramming. same playstyle for the e50 and e50m.

[misty wing]

object 907 is kinda cracked

[halcyon lotus]

it is cracked thanks to its buff after 9.1 one of the strongest mediums in tier x

[solid gate]

75 is better than the 88?

[halcyon lotus]

worse standard pen but better premium pen (240+)

[misty wing]

they're trolling

it has worse pen and DPM, as the screenshot above indicates

[solid gate]

oh ok

[misty wing]

or you might've mistaken it for the Panther I, on which the 75mm does have better pen and DPM

[halcyon lotus]

it has better gold shell penetration though, it’s 244mm (without calibrated), 7mm more than the panther 2
but yes you do have a point

[misty wing]

I just realized the 121b has 350mm heat pen on PC 💀

[violet timber]

Get consumables back faster

[toxic pollen]

Where can I see how old a vehicle is? Or when I researched it?

[halcyon lotus]

for the first question, that needs a lot of research. best way to look for them is in the wotb portal in which they post articles about new lines or tanks. for tech tree vehicles, look for the updates (ex. Update 6.9 - Japanese Tank Destroyers). for premium vehicles, look for ones that say their name in the headlines (ex. The Soviet UFO LT-432).

for when researched, best way to look for that is through Blitzstars and checking the player statistics of you driving the tank. though the feature is paid if you had the tank for a very long time

[hollow belfry]

That's for every T7. Simply because of the sheer amount of T8 premiums with which people farm their credits

[earnest pine]

Question is there a 3rd week of auction in WoTb

[limpid ether]

Yes, January 1 to 9

[pale pecan]

The VK 100.01 is a Monster

And the AMX 13 75 the best light tank on tier 7

[halcyon lotus]

@pale pecan

1. wtf is a vk 108
2. type 62 best light tank in tier 7

[pale pecan]

I mean VK 100.01 and no amx 13 75 is best my mate

[halcyon lotus]

vk 100.01 p is a monster? clearly that’s your only tier 8 heavy. the tank has poor accuracy, poor mobility (but is reasonable since it’s a superheavy), long reload time, big hatch, overshadowed by several heavies in tier 8 like the 53tp markowskiego and chi-se and many other reasons.

i played the amx 13 75. love the tank but is far from being the best tier 7 light. the t71 performs better than it due to more gun depression and faster clip dumping time

[pale pecan]

I think maybe you are just mad because u cant play with it 😂
Like your description says: A great clown 🤡

[limpid ether]

VK 100 side armor can be penned by tier 7

[halcyon lotus]

maybe it’s because you’re probably under 5k battles? or even in the lower mm? when you’re fighting some slightly experienced players, they can counter it no problem.

also don’t even think about grinding the maus if you have other heavies like the e100 or 60tp or any other heavy tank

[misty wing]

if you can't play the vk 100 you can't play anything

[limpid ether]

VK100 also has the big cupola and the lower plate.

Plus ISU-152 with prammo exists

[misty wing]

ISU might have 286mm standard pen, but the prammo actually isn't the best in tier 8

[halcyon lotus]

329mm of pen is not the best?

[valid gale]

Vk 100 is a joke literally

Amx 13 gets blown out by T71 and M41D

[halcyon lotus]

@misty wing what is a tier 8 tank that has GOOD premium pen

[misty wing]

TS-5 and SU-101 have 340 heat iirc @halcyon lotus , and rhm borsig WT has 334 heat

[halcyon lotus]

isu152 still has similar heat pen to them, 345 with calibrated

[misty wing]

you mean APCR

[solid gate]

374 heat > 345 apcr

[halcyon lotus]

oh shoot

[misty wing]

I'm by no means saying the ISU has bad pramo pen, it just isn't the best example that the other guy could've used for that context

[solid gate]

maus type tanks only have about 330mm of effective upper plate armor flat on

[solid gate]

Guys t22 medium is a gold tank or a blue tank ?

purple

Not Funny … 🤷🏻‍♂️

sorry i'm colorblind it's blue

[royal charm]

Can I be a clown too

[lyric copper]

the 13 75 dumps all 3 in 2.66s.

the T71 dumps in 3s.

the 13 75 is also capable of dumping in 1.8s due to intraclip boost.

The only real advantages the T71 has is one extra degree of gundep and better speed. The 13 75 has better camo and DPM

[solid gate]

ngl 13 75 is best in the line tier for tier other than batchat

[lyric copper]

prefer the 13 75 as it bursts in sub 2s and also has more camo for me to play with

[hollow belfry]

The gun elevation is going to be insanely annoying in some situations though

Six degrees sounds like death

[solid gate]

only downside is the pen but when ur an lt whos counting

[lyric copper]

really though, AP > APCR

[solid wolf]

if i were a new player and i ask to you guys what tank is should start what u will recommend? pls answer this seriously.

[balmy compass]

Yeah it really is
Seriously gotta remember not to fight on downwards sloping hills 💀

[balmy compass]

E 100 is a good tank, not hard to use well and the line is spectacular
People always say the IS-7 is a good choice too
60TP is a great tank with a solid line too
If you want to be different you can go for the VK 72 imo, the line is good and the tier X is rather fun, though the E 100 is more versatile

[wanton marlin]

IS-7 lacks gold pen though

[balmy compass]

For having great armor with decent speed

[solid wolf]

okay finally an advice here thank u , ill remember this 😊

[wanton marlin]

I want the IS-7 now lol

[solid gate]

Is the kranvagn still good?

[balmy compass]

Still the ultimate hulldown heavy

Well actually maybe the Concept 1b takes that spot
But the Kran is still pretty nice with it’s clip

[solid gate]

So its worth to grind the kranvagn line?

[balmy compass]

The tiers VIII, IX and X are all great

[solid gate]

Thank u

[lusty kayak]

Whats best to get from auction? Eu Server if that matters. Good overall tank

[dark schooner]

I have no idea what to do when heavies flank med. I escape most of the time but with so little hitpoints im practically dead

[hollow belfry]

Run away earlier

[humble oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/run-running-running-away-gif-26050954

[hollow belfry]

T54E2 for sure, AMX 30 1er proto is pretty cheap and a solid tank although the gun isn’t so good

the Skorpion G has a goated gun but poor camo and no armor, the epitome of the glass cannon

[clever hare]

Is this good

[hollow belfry]

Else not really. But do keep in mind how much you want to spend. For a lot of tanks you easily could wait a day or two more to buy cheaper, just keep an eye in the number still available every few hours

[hollow belfry]

It’s alright for that price but I’d rather spend a couple thousand gold more for a T54E2, or wait for next week’s auction if there’s anything good there

[thorn bane]

If you're aiming for armor, forget it

[glossy cargo]

Do you think T-34-3 is worth it? Im thinking of buying it

[hollow belfry]

It’s decent and cheap but if you want a high-caliber med to make credits, the Chimera/ 122 TM are better options. Else the T-34-2 and WZ-120 are free and provide similar experience

[glossy cargo]

Are any tanks under 6000 gold that are good?

[hollow belfry]

In the shop or auctions?

[glossy cargo]

Shop

[hollow belfry]

For under 6k nah not really

[glossy cargo]

Or maybe even 6k

[hollow belfry]

But if you can stand waiting 20 more hours there will be the AMX 30 1er proto in the auctions for 6k, it’s a solid T9 especially for that price

[glossy cargo]

The reason im going for the T34-3 is because i like the T55/T54 models

[hollow belfry]

Get a WZ-120 then

It’s almost the same tank, but a tier higher, free and actually good once you got it upgraded

[glossy cargo]

Thats what I’ve been trying to grind

Thanks for the advice

[hollow belfry]

Save your free exp for the stock grind, most stock T9s aren’t exactly great lol

But yeah, have fun with it. Chinese meds are a solid line and the T9-10 are very enjoyable tanks

[clever hare]

Ye i might wait since this offer still stands for 12days

[hollow belfry]

It’s a workable tank if you can get it hulldown and either keep wiggling or hide your hatch

But unless you really want the Chief/T95 in particular, getting a T26E5 in auctions last week would’ve been better

[subtle cliff]

Obj 140 vs T62A

[hollow belfry]

140

[subtle cliff]

Why the 140? over the 62?

[hollow belfry]

Less armor but better mobility, accuracy and view range

[subtle cliff]

Alright Thanks!

[hollow belfry]

It’s harder to play but more enjoyable than a 62a imo

[solid gate]

when was the VK90.01P last for sale

[next iron]

in crates or outright

[shy frost]

@subtle cliff 62a has +1 deg of gun depression (7) so keep that in mind aswell, plus that turret man... it's impenetrable when ur hulldown..
Obj 140 is, as said, faster accelerating, has better view range and brawls better, lacks turret armor, but hull is lil bit thicker, 6 deg of gun depression
So think about the different playstyles before purchasing, both are good tier Xs, so its up to your preferable gameplay; hulldown snipe/brawler
Keep on tanking bro

Everyone, I wish you Merry Christmas and happy new year, hope ur all doing well 😁👋

[civic pulsar]

Ty

[daring merlin]

Dont forget to check out Chinese meds as well, play style is similar

[dark schooner]

I feel like I didn’t spot enough, but I still feel good about this game

[daring merlin]

If you feel good, thats most important factor

[thorn pond]

e25 too good

[orchid rampart]

Is the e75 good in comprtive

[pallid flame]

Yea

[daring merlin]

I got the AMX Canon 105 from a globe. Any thoughts on it?

[queen rune]

Why does my Pz IV G's turret have this?

[daring merlin]

HE shield

[lilac mica]

Decent, it’s like the premium td WZ

[safe cedar]

That is spaced armour to protect from shaped charge warheads, such as bazooka's and anti tank grenade.

[halcyon lotus]

it’s an alright tank

[misty wing]

wdym "yours", every one does

[safe cedar]

Solid tank with an amazing legendary camo.

[misty wing]

I didn't even know it had one

[lilac mica]

Same (or I forgot)

[dark schooner]

Perfect light gameplay I believe

[daring merlin]

Does it play like a WZ GFT120?

[safe cedar]

No

[daring merlin]

Playstyle?

[violet timber]

Tiny sniper that can second line if it can angle off somthing

[daring merlin]

Ok thanks

[subtle cliff]

Thank you

I guess I’ll end up purchasing both since I just finished researching them

I got the 140 first and yeah, dpm is really nice, turret armor is not reliable but it works sometimes.

I’ll get the 62a soon after 100 games in the 140

[daring merlin]

The T54 tier 9 and T62 will be fine additions

[safe cedar]

Stug mk II

[daring merlin]

Never played that one

[safe cedar]

basically use it like stug

[daring merlin]

Peak and boom or more like a light zipping around popping off shots or campper

[shy nebula]

We need stalinium armor for every soviet tank

[vestal belfry]

how did the kpz70 got so much hate
did the community just did it for the lols? or maybe it got shadownerfed

[cold ore]

Amx 30 1er prototype any good? Will be dropping to 6k which for a tier 9 is a bargain.

[daring merlin]

Accurate gun, your not going to bounce any shells

[teal jewel]

Hey y'all, a little late to the discussion, but does anyone have any idea which vehicles are showing up in week 3 of the auction? Choices this week have been kinda underwhelming tbh...

[plucky summit]

Please don't ask about week 3 and just wait until it comes out. Besides, you'll consider waiting for cheaper prices anyways

[teal jewel]

That's the idea.. However the last stages of this week will have the tanks super cheap

So wanted to know if it's worth waiting for next week or not

[plucky summit]

If you really want the tank, get the tank

Epic consumer mindset

[halcyon lotus]

no, this week’s auction is probably the best week of this year’s auctions, here are the tanks worth buying:

• AMX 30 1er Prototype (highly recommended)
• T54E2
• Skorpion G
• AMX 13 57

[teal jewel]

Well that's easy to say for someone who's got several tanks already... For someone who doesn't have many premiums, they'd prefer knowing their options

[teal jewel]

All i needed to hear, thanks

[vestal belfry]

Idk if theres any premiums with soviet/chinese ht playstyle that gonna pop out in the auctions
Because that is what i wanted
idk if 4.6k is good enough

[halcyon lotus]

two soviets appeared in last week’s auctions: 252u and is3d except is3d got left alone because of powercreep and the playerbase

[thorn folio]

Well- I mean you can absolutely play it like WZ in the sense of running around slapping enemy tanks

[daring merlin]

Did the T34-3 show up in auction yet?

[halcyon lotus]

get the t 34 2
i would recommend the chimera also but it was sold last week in the auctions

[safe cedar]

Your not à shell fly swatter, you have troll, but unreliable armour.

[daring merlin]

I have both already. Not sure if it showed up this year

[thorn folio]

depends on whether or not you're using the gun depression

[safe cedar]

Even then massive weakspots

[hollow belfry]

For that price it really is. Try to keep an eye on the auctions regularly, might drop even lower than 6k although it's not guaranteed

[odd cove]

6k is very cheap for a t9

[halcyon lotus]

probably one of the best deals to exist in blitz, along with the object 252u, amx m4 49 and progetto 46 bundle that was released this year

[plucky summit]

You’ll know your options, anyways. If I really wanted a tank this week, I’d grab it before I gamble the uncertainty that a tank I want more will be in the next week. And I’m not too keen on how owning tanks makes judgements on tanks that I don’t own, other than experience in battle, which happens without having a lot of tanks anyways, but alright then

[lilac mica]

The person left lol

[plucky summit]

Ah, I thought my phone was just not loading info like normally

[simple drum]

will strv K go from 15,000 gold sell price to 7,500

[plucky summit]

It's only 15,000 as compensation, you can only sell it for 7,500

[simple drum]

e, I thought I could out smart wg

[odd cove]

never gonna happen

[royal charm]

Well there were a few times, like when collector prices were changed. Or when you know a gun is being removed/changed so u can load it fully with prammo that gets compensated in gold after update

[hot ingot]

delete the skorp and put the AX in there

[violet timber]

Nah AX isn't worth it

[hot ingot]

skorp isnt worth it

[halcyon lotus]

nah t54e2 is better than the ax due to it being more armored and having more alpha, making it more enjoyable and versatile

[violet timber]

Skorp is more worth than AX

[hot ingot]

the SU was in auction last month and its just way better than the skorp

[violet timber]

You can get the Caern in the tech tree which is miles better than the AX and is free

[hot ingot]

the AX has more accuracy and feels stronger hull down

[misty wing]

Skorp has more tangible advantages over the SU than AX has over the caern

[solid gate]

mr i need armor to play well right here

[hollow belfry]

The AX is a case of the still overrated/overhyped premium being powercrept by the tech tree

[violet timber]

AX is barely more accurate, and has worse dpm and alpha than the Caern

[hot ingot]

2700 vs 3000

[solid gate]

far less health as well and it doesnt have reactive armor

[hollow belfry]

It has slightly better dispersion factors but that's all. Poor trade for 300 dpm and alpha

[violet timber]

190 vs 225

[hot ingot]

my AX stats are way better than my caern stats why ever

[solid gate]

that doesnt mean anything my guy

[violet timber]

caern also gets super consumables for some reason

[hollow belfry]

No super speed boost either. The AX does have better armor but against anyone with half a brain you're getting penned in either tank

Skill issue then

[hot ingot]

that means im running better in ax

[misty wing]

luck

[solid gate]

doesnt mean the tank is better bro

[violet timber]

Doesn't make the AX a better tank

[halcyon lotus]

it’s 310 btw for the shark

[hot ingot]

brain is rare in pubs

[misty wing]

we're talking AX vs caernarvon

[solid gate]

whos talking about shark here

[violet timber]

Caern has 225, AX has 190

[halcyon lotus]

oh nvm

[hot ingot]

dont compare shark with ax, the shark gun is trash compared

[hollow belfry]

People thinking the AX is still better than the Caern proves it 🙃

[halcyon lotus]

but does it mean it’s overall worse? absolutely no

[misty wing]

I'd take at least 10 tier 8 heavies over the AX

[violet timber]

Shark is better than both

[hot ingot]

i just dont like the shark

[halcyon lotus]

agreed

[halcyon lotus]

if you don’t like it because of it being boring, i respect that

[misty wing]

if anyone actually does like playing the shark, they're either weird or incredibly meta slave

[solid gate]

theyre 50%ers who rerolled and cant play tier 10

[misty wing]

imagine rerolling instead of just trying to salvage your stats

[hot ingot]

i dont like tier10 either tier8 is just more fun

[misty wing]

jesus christ how

[solid gate]

tier 8's fun lies in a few certain tanks i dont understand people

[violet timber]

Tier 10 is way better balanced than tier 8 is right now

[hot ingot]

tier10 is boring just my taste i dont like it

[hollow belfry]

T8
Fun
The
What

[misty wing]

tier 10 is objectively more interesting with regards to differing playstyles between tanks

and then there's the benefit of seeing bigger damage numbers in general, which is satisfying

[hot ingot]

most pub tier10 games have tier8 avg damages

[misty wing]

no, the average damage in tier 10 will always be higher because there is more HP on the field

[halcyon lotus]

2k damage? because that is me sadly

[hot ingot]

i could send you screenshots of 10 games i played today that was way sub tier8 dmg in tier10 matches

[hollow belfry]

Cool
These battles happen just like you'll see T8 players do t5 dmg

[hot ingot]

not on NA its kinds normal half of your team struggles to hit 1k dmg

[halcyon lotus]

2 shots of damage? because that is not me sadly

[hollow belfry]

My guy, I play on EU, do you really think it's much better?

[hot ingot]

thats what im saying

but hej everyone plays where they like it and i like tier8 way more than tier10

[misty wing]

I can almost guarantee there's almost no real difference between the experience on different servers, except for maybe language

[hot ingot]

yeah but bigger player pool means also you have more better players, like the top 3 teams of EU server would prob. steam roll the top NA team no doubt

[misty wing]

it also means you have more worse players

[hollow belfry]

^

EU since the transfer, at times…

CIS server tactics must have been wild given the rise in yolos I’ve experienced

[misty wing]

I prefer yolos to camping heavies any day of the week

[tulip knot]

Not me. Yolos end up in one team winning in 2 minutes and me (an average player) dealing little damage

[prime bobcat]

Guys. I am planning on selling my ritter and buying amx 30 1er for 5-6k gold. Should i?

I would rebuy that ritter any time i want lol and for amx thats insanely good price

[odd cove]

yes

[misty wing]

If you can buy the Ritter any time, why not just buy the 5k gold right now and buy the AMX

[prime bobcat]

Never spent money on the game /:

[north relic]

HI guys, Badger is in market for 20k gold. Ya'll think it's good deal or is it expensive?

[halcyon lotus]

good deal, badger is really good after 9.1

[shy frost]

Guys, can I get some help..
I've been playing in panzer 58 for a past 2 days cause of bp missions, but I can't get to know its playstyle
225 alpha, good dpm for t8 med but that's all, gun handling is garbage, both aim time and dispersion are awful, so for me to get one shot I gotta expose myself for a few seconds to aim fully.. power to weight is also low
There is a million flaws to this tank and only one good thing which is 10 deg of depression
I'm averaging 1.4 k dmg in it with 20 games 🤮😭
Can you tell me if I'm using the tank wrong or is it really that awful??

[halcyon lotus]

panzer 58 is bad because of it being severely overshadowed by other tier 8 meds
the tank plays similar to the vickers light, spot and support your team. gun mantlet is troll, meaning it can bounce shots, but not too often.

though the real question is if you’re experienced with lights and mediums

[shy frost]

I really love playing meds, I have 2.4 k avg dmg on chimera and 2.3 on t34 3, so I would say I'm fairly familiar with meds playstyle..
But damn in panzer 58 is hard to get those dmg numbers up

To me it seems its more of a big, chunky light than a med

[halcyon lotus]

no wonder, the panzer 58’s playstyle is not similar to those two tanks mostly because it’s less armored

[thorny smelt]

Well you played it wrong. It is weakly armored and mostly you'll play as support to other medium tanks or other types of tanks. The gun is good and can easily land shots. It has great mobility for a Swiss-German medium tank.

It is a sniper medium tank.

[misty wing]

panzer 58 doesn't have good DPM for a tier 8 med

and t-34-3 and chimera don't play like normal (most) meds

[shy frost]

Great help guys hahahah

@misty wing , Ferrari fans can't help even if they wanted haha
And as I remember i asked for help not convincing haha

@thorny smelt thanks mate, I'll play through this mission and off to trash bin then, I'll get back to my t44, lt and chimera until panzer gets a serious buff hahah

[misty wing]

Learning starts from realizing where you’re wrong

[thorny smelt]

It got some buff on the recent update though. Lemme find it.

[shy frost]

And how 2.4 k dpm isn't good on tier8 medium, it's one of higher dpms

[thorny smelt]

It's good for a tier 8

[shy frost]

Are there better dpms on tier8 med??

@misty wing I asked for help dude, cause I love meds and perform well in them but can't quite get better in panzer 58, I understand ur point in 58 not having the same playstyle as chimera and t43 3, but I did fairly well in exc. T44 which is more close to 58 than chimera

[misty wing]

It has a 5.6 second reload afaik, which is below average for a 90/88mm

For example, pershing has 5 and indien panzer 5.1 or something like that

And Pz 58 is just pretty bad, so it's understandable that you struggle in it. You kinda just have to play passive and abuse your gun depression

T-44 is also bad but perhaps you were able to use the higher alpha well enough

[shy frost]

I haven't played other german meds yet, just got my leopard pt a but its still stock, so I'm not familiar in dpm of previous meds, researched it from ru25q

[thorny smelt]

Here's a comparison of some tier 8 mediums

[misty wing]

As you can see, mostly green for the others :)

[shy frost]

Oh sh** look at the pershing, gotta go for that line next

That comparison is really helpful, thanks @thorny smelt

[thorny smelt]

Panzer 58 is still playable. You just need to know that it is weakly armored but with a good gun.

[misty wing]

Seems kinda like the M46 patton, which I did really well in

Although that one is tied for the best 105mm dpm in tier 9 iirc?

Eh the Leo has 0.01 second less reload

[thorny smelt]

3036 DPM with Gun Rammer so it is good for its tier

[misty wing]

Also I don't really understand the hype for the AMX 30 1er. I know it's cheap, but it has some of the worst DPM for tier 9 meds while also having only 310 alpha? Sounds like an easy pass

[thorny smelt]

AMX-30B though needs a DPM buff

[misty wing]

At least 30b is properly fast, has average alpha, and looks much cooler

Who thought the AMX Win Peaks camo was a good idea

[misty wing]

I was waiting for so long for someone to make fun of my name here lmao, thank you

[thorny smelt]

And it exists in real life as a MBT

[shy frost]

Hahahahahaha you're welcome @misty wing, but I honestly think RBRacing is much better name 😝

[hollow belfry]

It’s mobile and has a relatively solid turret with good gun depression. Also very cheap in the auction

[wise moth]

30 1er is honestly kinda overrated. Sure it's got ok mobility and a good turret, but meds nowadays can only justify themselves with their gun, and the 30 1er has one of the worst guns on a tier 9 med (if not the worst)

[hollow belfry]

I do agree that it’s kind of overrated and the gun is why I do not want to buy it, but for that price it’s not so bad of a deal.

[terse saddle]

What should I get for equipments for the T49? (i'm using the 152 mm gun)

[marsh rapids]

For combat power: Take 1,1,1
For Vitality: Take 2,2,2
For specialization 1,2,1
I'm using this config, works pretty well

[terse saddle]

thx a lot

[solid gate]

french heavy tanks are really bad

[cold ore]

Nah the amx m4 49 is solid, got the m4 54 in the snow globe and it's proving to be a beast.

[solid gate]

amx 50 120 ...

[cold ore]

Have it don't like it

[wise moth]

50 120 is decent. Just learn the art of the strategically timed YOLO

[cold ore]

Haha yeh, I think I need to play it more only about 5 games 100 percent wr. I think it's the long reload

[limpid ether]

Is Somua SM fun tank for a tier 8 premium version of the AMX 50 100?

[hollow notch]

Being able to actually use the gun is incredibly important though.

The gun depression, armor, and mobility means that you get to constantly be using it.

[inland gulch]

situationally bad

arl 44 is still top notch despite the pen nerf
amx m4 45 is ok
well then thing takes a bad turn for tier 8 and above
amx 50 100 takes an L because emil 1 can do things better despite being slower
amx 50 120 is ok but its a giant tumor
amx 50b is, well this varies from person to person but imo 3x400 was better than 4x380

somua sm then defeats both the emil and 50 100
amx m4 49 is just really a nerfed tiger 2 so why bother
then theres the amx m4 54 which is pretty decent

[solid gate]

Hello world. I'm new to ds here. And I want to play with anyone and chat. I am from Russia

[past halo]

fv215b183 very good

[prisma zealot]

do you know how to type at without strg and alt?

[plucky summit]

?

[prisma zealot]

I try to type an Email but i cant type @

[plucky summit]

Ah, for me, I hold Shift and press 2

[fast compass]

If your keyboard is not working properly, you can use an onscreen keyboard for those symbols

[prisma zealot]

how to get it?

[plucky summit]

Settings > Accessibility > Keyboard > On-Screen Keyboard
For Windows, at least

[jaunty warren]

wait how to get it if it somehow opens?

[plucky summit]

You... get it if it somehow opens...?

[jaunty warren]

yeah ig

oof sorry wrong place

[dusty jewel]

They just have very little armor

[plucky summit]

I mean, the one that does have armor is pretty good, could you imagine?

[shy frost]

U guys using gun rammer on t49 with 152mm gun???? Hahahah
Haven't heard that yet, man if u got a long reload anyhow, why don't you go with cs so you're more sure the shot will pen, ur second off reload is useless if u cant pen shiii..
I suggest cali cause of pen boost, same on t92e1 and sheri, no point in installing rammer@terse saddle

@terse saddle I think it's good setup, I can explain why I use these if u want (but for combat power i highly suggest calu, u want that pen boost, especially on he..)

[little compass]

caernarvon X or scorpion G or amx 30 prot or t28 def? want to spend in auction, Caernarvon X coz fast firing gun, amx 30 prot coz its good scorpion coz i love jadgpanther ii gun on turret and t28 def coz its defender tank. which should I get

[solid gate]

Guys should I get t54e2 or action x for auction

[glossy trench]

id get the shark, but x is very good to

[plucky summit]

T54E2 is easily better than Action X

[glossy trench]

agreed, e5 at tier 8, X is good to though. the players you see in it bleed it to much though.

[plucky summit]

They're forced to bleed, that's how they can use their DPM

[violet timber]

Shark, AX is average at best

[vocal river]

Out of these 4? Just the skorp or amx30(if its below 5k). The defender logic is nonsense imo and action x is obsolete now. And if you missed out on the 130pm or decided to buy skorp over it, Rip.

[pallid flame]

shark is boring. ax imo

[cold ore]

So I guess it all comes down to personal taste

The ax is fun, just the alpha let's it down a bit, but it's still good. I like British tanks and enjoy the hull down american heavy style, so both are cool for me... Do your research, try to figure out what's best for you and what YOU want.

[light dove]

What wrong with armor penetration?? As weĺl fix IS, because that grandpa could ricocheted almost every shot

[plucky summit]

Could you give the timestamp of the shot you are confused about?

[light dove]

Explain please

[plucky summit]

I'm assuming you bounced a shot that you think you shouldn't have, right?

[cinder hatch]

Hes basically asking in what part of the replay is the shot you talk about

[light dove]

When i shot vk30, my shots bounced

[plucky summit]

I will check it out and show you the analysis

[light dove]

The shot hitted grey zone, no ping nor loss, no penetration in side turret. He didn't rotate it when i shot, no idea what happened

[plucky summit]

You shot the turret at an extreme angle, causing your shell to ricochet

[light dove]

Vk36* mb

[plucky summit]

Armor Inspector does a poor job highlighting this correctly, but it still believes you should have penetrated

[light dove]

No idea, but i had 100% penetration chance, maybe I'm wrong or replay is wrong

[plucky summit]

I see, Armor Inspector is only showing how well the main armor stands up to your shot, and doesn't include the spaced armor.

Armor Inspector is actually highlighting this correctly, and improperly showing you that it's a 100% penetration, since it doesn't account for the massive gun mantlet the the shell must have hit first

[light dove]

In 3 words
I could penetrate
Right @plucky summit

[plucky summit]

Not at all

[balmy compass]

if spaced armor wasn't there

[plucky summit]

Blitz doesn't do a great job showing you that spaced armor (such as the gun mantlet, especially on German tanks) is not penetrable for your shell. You were not supposed to penetrate that at all, no matter what the highlighting system implies.

Be fair to the game, though, actively showing you where you can or cannot penetrate is stressful to the game

This image shows you where you can or cannot penetrate (disregard the track wheel, that's just an issue with armor inspector)

[light dove]

Same goes with IS's armour, almost always many people either doesn't penetrate it, or can even ammo rack it when tank is under angle
Biopolar armour is the worst thing in game

[plucky summit]

IS has a pretty had armor profile, and it only really works against standard rounds when it sidescrapes on its right side. Otherwise, don't trust it at all

IS-3 provides consistency, BUT you have to accept that your hull is insufficient against heavy tanks, and can only rely on your turret

[light dove]

Is-3 is more like 50/50

[plucky summit]

Here's this, if you're interested in that

[light dove]

Understood, thank you for advices and explains! @plucky summit

[plucky summit]

😎

[calm cipher]

W

[peak totem]

Hmmmm

[balmy compass]

Kanonenjagdpanzer is cooler

[peak totem]

True

[cinder hatch]

Its a fish !!

[naive vapor]

Is the T54E2 still good?

[plucky summit]

It's one of the best

[balmy compass]

-best tanks at boring the user!

[plucky summit]

Well, see what he asked o.o

[deep shore]

Amx 30 premier worth 5k???

[thorny smelt]

For a tier 9? Yeah

[deep shore]

But is it a good tank?

[tulip knot]

Against ho-ri premium rounds with cs if you were wondering

[earnest pine]

Question why does tier 10 light and heavy French tank turret look like Emil 1, 2 and kranvagn

[plucky summit]

Oscillating turrets are quite limited by design

[earnest pine]

@plucky summit what do you mean oscillating turrets

[plucky summit]

Turrets with turret parts that move around with the gun, such as the back of the Emil I, II, and Kranvagn

[balmy compass]

Weren’t oscillating turrets used because they gave more elevation/depression angles compared to if the gun was mounted normally?

Or was it to fit the autoloading mechanism better

[earnest pine]

So how good those tanks in game

[plucky summit]

Emil I and Kranvagn are very good tanks for their tiers

[manic carbon]

easier for an autoloader to be put in place I think @balmy compass

also allowed for turrets to be smaller too

[balmy compass]

Tbh I would think the gun wouldn’t have much depression angles if it were mounted like a normal gun anyway

[earnest pine]

So your saying that @plucky summit said Emil 1 and kranvagn are good what about the French tanks

[balmy compass]

Foch sucks 👍
Avoid the Foch

[plucky summit]

I wouldn't root for many French oscillators, though AMX 13 75 is a nice one. AMX 50 100 is specialized, but nice

[earnest pine]

@balmy compass you mean a French tank destroyer

[balmy compass]

That is a French tank is it not?

[earnest pine]

So should I grind my strv m/42 to kranvagn or should I grind French light tank to tier 10

[limpid ether]

BC 25t is poggers

[earnest pine]

@limpid ether so I should grind for French light to tier 10 than grinding the kranvagn

[limpid ether]

Well, if you already have ome of the french LTs then why not, BC is pretty fun.

After all you will have to start from strv M41 just for kran, might as well just end your current grind with Bat chat line before doing so

[earnest pine]

@limpid ether what is bat chat line?

[violet timber]

For the auto loading mechanism. With a human loader, they can adjust to the height of the breach. With an auto loader, the breach has to be aligned with the loading mechanism. If both the breach and loading mechanism move with each other, they will always be aligned

[limpid ether]

French light tank ofc

The tier 10 french light tank is Bat Chat 25t(BC25T) or in full, Bat-Chatillion 25 Tonne(probably butchered some of the spelling), we name tank lines in game via the name of the tier 10 tank(like kranvagn tank line for the strv M41>Kranvagn grind)

[balmy compass]

Ah ic
Was that why the IS-7 had to fix its turret to the front to reload irl?

[violet timber]

IS-7 had an assisted loader, like carousel inside. It wasn't really an autoloader as the human still did all of the loading

[balmy compass]

I do recall that

[earnest pine]

@limpid ether thank you

[halcyon lotus]

@earnest pine please don’t play your räumpanzer yet

[limpid ether]

Ok I think the true full name for BC25t is Batignolles-Chatillon Char 25T

[earnest pine]

@limpid ether is that real?

[thorny smelt]

It is a real tank

[tulip knot]

Kran is mid in current meta. Imo

[earnest pine]

Should WoTb developer add more oscillating tank turret such as M4A4 fitted with the AMX-13's FL-10 turret and sk-105 kurassier

[violet timber]

Kran is very good in the current meta

[violet timber]

We already have the M4/FL-10

[earnest pine]

@violet timber since when?

[violet timber]

For a while

[earnest pine]

@violet timber should it be considered as aa Egyptian tank why it said hybrid nation

[violet timber]

Because Egypt isn’t an in-game nation

[earnest pine]

@violet timber ok

What about sk-105 kurassier an Austrian oscillating tank turret

@halcyon lotus what do you mean I can't play raumpanzer I already played it often

[marsh notch]

is chimera a good tank?

[valid gale]

Not ingame in any form

[halcyon lotus]

it’s because of the fact that you underperform in your mediums, especially in the pudel
and also because it’s your first tier 8

@earnest pine if you’re not convinced about your underperformance in medium tanks here’s your statistics in blitzstars

[earnest pine]

@halcyon lotus I have so many tier 5 and tier 6 only few tier 7 tanks Ara Skoda t-45, pharaoh, type 62 and t-43 only just one tier 8 tank is raumpanzer. how much a tier 8 tank cost

[halcyon lotus]

it’s like 2 million credits, not much if you have that much premium tanks

[earnest pine]

How?

[halcyon lotus]

all premium tanks have something special that tech tree vehicles don’t, which is that they farm credits more easily

your premium tanks are no exception

continue grinding the t62a for more experience over the game’s mechanics and playstyles

[earnest pine]

@halcyon lotus I don't get it how did know my tank but honestly kinda cool but for real I prefer camping not offensive or charge to enemy line because I ended up dying

[halcyon lotus]

grind the 268 since you like sniping, the line is infamous for memes, is newbie friendly and is amazing

also some tips for the line:

1. don’t load too much HE
2. load premium ammo

[earnest pine]

@halcyon lotus I always load premium except APCR deals less damage than HEAT

[halcyon lotus]

still, grind the 268

[earnest pine]

@halcyon lotus what is 268 is that a tank or something?

[halcyon lotus]

Object 268, tier 10 soviet tank destroyer, obtainable in the tech tree

[earnest pine]

@halcyon lotus that means I should grind su-85

[halcyon lotus]

yes

[earnest pine]

@halcyon lotus ok

@halcyon lotus what is the name of this website that you showed me about statistics and winrate

[halcyon lotus]

blitzstars.com

[earnest pine]

@halcyon lotus are sure it will work?

[halcyon lotus]

works for me all the time

[earnest pine]

@halcyon lotus it works but where's my tank's?

[halcyon lotus]

demonstration

[kind flicker]

im just relising that t10 meds have the same hp as t8 heavys
also finished grind for my first t0, patton

[halcyon lotus]

congrats on your first tier 0 🥳

[dark schooner]

Just had a great game as a light

Job done right I hope

[misty wing]

#replays

[misty wing]

which tier has the highest average increase in vehicle size from the previous tier, any guesses?

[inland heath]

Is SU 85 Good in Tier V

[halcyon lotus]

it’s good

[inland heath]

Ohh ok

[tight storm]

What was the name of the website where you compare tanks to each other ?

[solid gate]

blitzstar/blitzhangar(outdated)

[cobalt thunder]

is M3 lee still in world of tanks Blizt? or is removed or not in the game anymore?

[halcyon lotus]

it’s still in the game. last year you were able to obtain it in a collaboration with oliver tree

[thorny smelt]

It is still there but most likely as level 1 battle pass tank

[fiery sage]

Hello. Hey so. Is the cheiftain any good? Theres a deal for 6k gold. For the cheiftain plus two containers

Also. Ok the auction deals. Which tanks are even worth it?

[halcyon lotus]

don’t get the chieftain. get the t54e2 which is currently available in the auctions

[fiery sage]

Dang really. Is the t54e2 auto loader? I was thinkn the caerna action

[halcyon lotus]

t54e2 is not an autoloader
also the ax is useless if you have the t54e2, other way around applies too

though if you want an autoloader, don’t get a somua sm

[fiery sage]

So. T54e2 much better then the action

What about the defender amx. Light?

or well. Any of them autcion ones. I really dont know lot bout these tanks tbh.

[halcyon lotus]

amx defender is a fun tank but the defender mk1 is much better (was sold last week’s auctions)

[fiery sage]

Darn. Cant even see the stats on them tanks. 8k gold worth the t54e2?

[halcyon lotus]

quite a good price but i suggest waiting for it to drop until the new year
who knows maybe the price would turn out cheaper than today

[fiery sage]

Thnx bro. So the any of them french tanks good? Or neh

[final vapor]

Is somua worth it? I'm waiting for the price to drop really low then buy it

[fiery sage]

I have the somua. It does ok. Ive had it quite a while. I mean if ur good at manuevering it. Getting ur three shots then waiting like 23 secs to reload. Then ull be good.

[final vapor]

Well I have Emil and I love it so I'm ok with drum tanks

[thorny smelt]

AMX M4 mle. 54 is one of them.

[fiery sage]

but dont listen to me. I really dont know much bout these tanks which is good and which is not. Im in law enforcement and work alot. So i just play and play lol 😂 but i mean i have several aces. So im@not so bad

Lol 😆

Hey welcomr. Need 7 more years and i retire

[vestal belfry]

1. How do i use wz-111 1-4 i recently got it
2. Why does the community mock chinese tech tree hts so much despite being fun to use? You can call me "exaggerating" if you want since i dont play this game a lot

[cold ore]

The Chinese ht are solid, I do well in them. The tier 10 has great dpm, go meds side.

[hollow belfry]

It’s pretty straightforward to play

[vestal belfry]

i noticed that the wz-111 1-4 got a cool front hull armor increased although i have to be careful with the lower plate

finally i have escaped the curse of the chinese pikenose

[hollow belfry]

You can go med side, try to hulldown whenever possible and remember it’s quite nimble for a heavy. The gun is pretty nice although the dpm isn’t the greatest. I can’t say much, to me it’s not so easy to explain with words. The tank isn’t anything special on paper but it was a cozy and enjoyable drive

[vestal belfry]

can i use it like an is-8 tho

[hollow belfry]

Kinda, it doesn’t have as much dpm though

[shy frost]

Hey guys, I'm in a dilemma..
Should I buy amx 30b or t22 med?

What do you guys think which of two is better, as I figure out, amx is fast and nimble, solid turret but lacks dpm and accuracy; t22 has trolish armor but no gun depression nor speed

[odd cove]

30b takes a little more skill to play, due to its tumor and meh dpm, unlike the t22

[limpid ether]

The two basically a pick your poison.

Fast,nimble, good gun depression but worst DPM of all T10 meds(amx 30b)

Or decent DPM, decent mobility, but pretty bad gun depression and the armor is only really good at sidescraping.(T-22)

Also I wouldn't say amx 30b has bad accuracy it's the same as the other meds in terms of accuracy

[odd cove]

leopard 1:

[shy frost]

I read 'skip both tanks' hahaha

Got mine 907, I'll pass this weeks auction, I'm waiting for m60

[wise moth]

The T-22 is actually really good tho. 55km/h speed limit, great DPM, and an invincible turret

[limpid ether]

Hmm, so buy T22M and not AMX?

[terse saddle]

ok

[final vapor]

Is T28 defender worth it right now? Or wait for it to drop or just to wait for week 3 auction

[prime bobcat]

What should i buy from auction
Amx 30 1er or skorpion G?

Guys

[lyric copper]

it doesnt

also its kinda outclassed in the current state of the game

[limpid ether]

81% credit coef.

Average credit coef for Tier 10 collectors and premiums are 130%

[prime bobcat]

?

[hollow belfry]

I’d say both are good buys for their prices but you can keep an eye on the numbers of tanks and try waiting till tomorrow

[limpid ether]

Average skorpion G fan is typing, he will attempt to coerce you into the skorpion G cult, resist

[prime bobcat]

Lol

[lilac mica]

both
If you got SU-130PM it’s useless to buy Skorp

[hollow belfry]

Got myself a Skorpion and I have zero regret. It’s a huge paper box but the gun is 🐐 at t8

[prime bobcat]

I have only 6k in my pocket lol (i have no t8 td's)

[lilac mica]

Skorp is a HE magnet and if you have no T8 TDs maybe you should wait

[limpid ether]

128mm with actual accuracy and in a decently mobile hull is great

[hollow belfry]

To be fair I bought both the SU and Skorp

[prime bobcat]

Lol. At first i thought about buying amx but then i kinda started thinking about skorp and dont know which should i chose

[hollow belfry]

The SU’s camo, size, mobility and gun dep is very nice, but sometimes the gun handling reminds you that it’s a Soviet tank if you see what I mean

[limpid ether]

Wdym soviet tanks are always accurate!!!

(Say these words or you know what the NKVD will do)

[hollow belfry]

There’s a number of shots I can get in with the Skorpion G simply because it is a literal laser and expose for a fraction of a second but where in the same situation having to aim longer in the SU would probably see me eat a shell in return

[stone robin]

Pilot 1 is great for a vehicle in game.

[prime bobcat]

I am feeling lost lmao

[limpid ether]

T25 Pilot 1? Hell nah

[prime bobcat]

Do i want a laser beam or a mobile mosquito

[hollow belfry]

@prime bobcat keep in mind that the Skorpion is a gigantic paper box where you’ll eat HE if you get caught out of position, the gun depression isn’t that good and it has quite poor camo. But if you’re ready to make those sacrifices for a gun with good pen, alpha and dpm along with incredible accuracy, go for the Skorpion G. For 6k it’s really a good buy.

[prime bobcat]

Im used to paper, I have ritter

[hollow belfry]

The AMX 30 1er proto is a relatively small med with a good turret, good mobility and gun depression but a very weak hull and a lackluster gun. For its price it’s not a bad buy either

[hollow belfry]

Do you love playing it?

[prime bobcat]

Idk its the tank i have most masteries and highest av dmg atm

[hollow belfry]

If you do, then think of the Skorpion as a fatter Ritter with worse camo and better top speed, both having amazing guns for their tiers

[hollow belfry]

Then as long as you are mindful of your lack of stealth compared to the Ritter, you’ll probably feel at home playing it. My bias would go to the Skorpion personally

[prime bobcat]

I think i will but skorp but as well I might wait for another day lol

[hollow belfry]

Yeah that’s a wise decision

There are still over two thousand tanks left, just check the numbers regularly in case it starts selling quickly. But there’s a chance it will go down to 5k

[stone robin]

Yes

[limpid ether]

To those who want to know about the numbers on tanks like WZ 132 or WZ 121
(It's only 52 seconds long)
Posting this because I know some of you will have questions thanks to new china tank line

https://youtu.be/Nk9Ktgf0qn0

[prime bobcat]

Now when i think about it.... I already have ritter so why should i choose a second TD's with simalar playstyle over a fun medium

[oak pollen]

How to play charioteer properly? I just buy it & free xp all module

[hollow belfry]

Sure thing, do you have any previous experience with high tier mediums?

[hollow belfry]

Snipe or support your mediums, abuse the HESH whenever possible

It has a turret and good camo so playing at mid-range is viable as long as you have teammates nearby

[oak pollen]

Thx @hollow belfry

[safe cedar]

Do you run refined on Skorp g or V-stabs?

[hollow belfry]

V-stabs

.29 dispersion is already great

[spice raptor]

whats the better tank:e100 , jageroo,183,ho ri, to have fun