vehicles-discussion

[worldly creek]

Hello everyone, I hope you are well, I have a question about a tank, I want to buy the type 57 mecha but I don't know if it is a good investment, how good is the tank?

[languid hedge]

it's a pretty solid tank

[shy nebula]

Yes

Just yes. The hetzer is gud.

Bouncy turtle.

Yes. Indeed.

[dapper violet]

(Both)

[frail dagger]

Type 71 may be “good” but it isnt 183 hesh proof . .

[tulip knot]

It is solid, but always hide your lower plate. The lower plate is quite big and ez to pen

[tulip knot]

That’s why I play the UE 57

[languid hedge]

lower plate weak spot, good gun and good armor

[languid hedge]

got the type 68

what's the consensus about the 68

[untold spire]

just got tier 7 of the minotauro line. Are the ones above all the same basically in relation to their tier or are some better or worse? I get that especially minotauro is just impenetrable from front, while for the tier 7 this is not so. How is this with the rest?

[languid hedge]

64 is pretty strong, cc is crazy good

[vale mortar]

They all got about the same lower plate

[untold spire]

that sounds a bit like they would both be better than the tier 7? Kind of matches my experience meeting in battle too. CC also impenetrable like minotauro, but the 56 and 64 many can pen lower plate?

[shy nebula]

I love the hetzer :)

[plucky summit]

It's a decent tank, used to be better

[shy nebula]

Yea

[languid hedge]

lower plate for the 56 and 64 is ez pen, but the rest is solid asf

none of them really have cupolas you can shoot

[languid hedge]

don't mess with the hetz

[lilac mica]

Keep or sell AMX 13 90 ? It’s not a bad tank but I don’t know 13 75 is better so..

[languid hedge]

it's fun asf

[balmy compass]

Goofy fast traverse rate tho

[plucky summit]

Fastest in the game 😌

[languid hedge]

i love the type 68

[misty wing]

I hate the sheridan and the T92E1

[balmy compass]

I thought Leopard VK 16.02 was faster

[plucky summit]

Nope

[balmy compass]

Was it ever faster?

[plucky summit]

Definitely

[balmy compass]

Guess I was working on old information 💀

[languid hedge]

well i play the sheri so :D

[solid gate]

t92e1 >>>>>>>> sheridan

[misty wing]

I don't understand how anyone can enjoy playing a tank as ugly as the sheridan, especially without the legendary camo

The hull is boxier than all the german "box tanks", the turret doesn't match it, and no PBR to help it

[odd cove]

there's more than the legendary camo that can fit with the sheri.

[misty wing]

the sheridan is in desperate need of the extra attachments that the legendary camo offers, otherwise it looks too naked
it also masks some of the overwhelming boxiness

[valid gale]

The turret was built for the hull

[languid hedge]

idk what universe you live in

[misty wing]

it looks fine on the production sheridan, but the XM551 prototype in game just looks hideous

[supple hearth]

Doesn't matter if the tank is ugly

[languid hedge]

i still slap everyone with it

[odd cove]

sure

[misty wing]

aesthetic is 90% of the enjoyment of this game

[shy nebula]

Drunk tank designers do some goofy things tho

Like the arl turret

[misty wing]

that was the FCM F1 turret

still looks cooler than the abhorrently ugly sheridan

[odd cove]

sheridan cloud 9 mod

[languid hedge]

hmm

[tulip knot]

Nope m41 is faster

[plucky summit]

Dang, so it peaks more than 107°/sec

[tulip knot]

Hehe

[plucky summit]

Wacky

[tulip knot]

I got it to 112 on Blitzhangar

[violet timber]

I can get hetzer to 104 and bulldog to 105

[tulip knot]

Use crew skills

[violet timber]

I am, got it to 106 by using the stock turret

Ohhhh breakthrough activates in blitz hangar

[tulip knot]

Yeah. And clutch braking

[violet timber]

At peak, bulldog is 112, hetzer is 110

[tulip knot]

I challenge you to find a slower traverse than 9.57 (on hard terrain)

[languid hedge]

what tank is that? kv5

[tulip knot]

T95

[solid gate]

closet i got so far is mauschen 9.68 lol

[languid hedge]

lol

[peak elk]

what tank should wg give us as a tier 3 gift I hope one day the bt7arty comes back

[languid hedge]

i hated that thing so much

[peak elk]

your profile says it all lol

if anyone is active please chat

[languid hedge]

it one shotted me from across the map

yeah, i haven't seen it in a battle since then either

[peak elk]

I wish it would come back

[languid hedge]

i wish the bt sv would come back

[dreamy osprey]

dont compare stuff to diseases

[misty wing]

dont talk about low tier because it's garbage and more importantly, all the tanks are ugly

[frail dagger]

Tank pretty is what makes a tank better, like the cent 5/1 is beautiful (my beloved) and the chimera is not (boxcks)

[plucky summit]

Many players care about performance more :p

[frail dagger]

Performance is what matteres yes, but if my tank looks like super ugly no thankyouuu, like most of the WZ lines are just ehhh in beauty

[silent knoll]

@ocean dock Get. Mad. Now. 🤣

[misty wing]

Most WZs look rather nice

[plucky summit]

Cheese wedge :D

[silent knoll]

:/ she’s not on. Smh

[lilac mica]

Wz 5a looks nice 👀

[misty wing]

It looks too naked in blitz

I need my tanks covered head to toe in random boxes, bags, fuel tanks, machine guns, fire extinguishers, and other random crap

[lilac mica]

Basically 60TP

[silent knoll]

gets pbr

[frail dagger]

the TD is the ISU-152 that spent a weekend at grandmas, the WZ-113 is an IS (any of em) that got front flattened and then extended in MS paint but the Medium? WZ-121? Looks alright but the grind seems so atrocious i wouldnt dare, and yes, 5A is very nice but its a prem (all chinese prems are good, 122TM, 120G-Ft, WZ blaze, (not inc is variant #11)

Now i aint hating i love having another tech tree and they are very nice and decent tanks but aint beautiful

[silent knoll]

This man’s a Western tea sipper, I can tell. Not an Oriental 😂

[frail dagger]

my brother i am an aussie i am one of the colonies i am very much a tea sipper

[silent knoll]

🫡

[frail dagger]

to be fair some other nations do have not pretty tanks, the HO-RI is not fairly pretty nor is the 60TP, im sorry, or even the FV4202

[misty wing]

all of those tanks look amazing what

[silent knoll]

4202 I can agree. That thing is ugly

[plucky summit]

If you're that dedicated to tanks looking nice, play PC :p

[silent knoll]

Cent Mk 5/1 RAAC is by far one of the best looking ones tho. beau-T-ful

[frail dagger]

nah i love blitz through and through, and i love the tanks i have, and i may actually grind up all these lines in 2023 just because yknow, they not be to my current taste but i can see myself liking them

[frail dagger]

my brother, you are spitting straight facts, and as an aussie who adores an aussie tank, you are speaking my language

[silent knoll]

Loved it from first sight, seeing it get field tested in blitz

[frail dagger]

i adore this tank through and through, and its amazing in gravity mode too, 90km/h average, and rams LTs as hard as a VK168 rams a 45TP

[misty wing]

The only tier 10s that are ugly (off the top of my head) are the Vickers Light, M-VI-Yoh, Sheridan, M60, Progetto 65, and TVP

[silent knoll]

Yuhhhh, that thing’s a beast when in the right position. I was able to pull a 1v5 in that Dingo

[frail dagger]

its so good, ive pulled of a Gravity mode 7 kill round with it

[silent knoll]

Dam bro

[plucky summit]

It's OP, though people like to think otherwise given it's DPS

[silent knoll]

Honestly man, M60 needs that conversion to M60A3 PBR

[misty wing]

even if it's OP, I don't like it because of the low alpha

and I absolutely despise the cent 1 for it

[frail dagger]

its not OP per say, but its beautiful, fast, decently armoured, and with a gun that just keeps hitting its pretty nice, its the Caenavron AX with less armour and more speed

[plucky summit]

The armor is great

[misty wing]

it has better armor than the action X lol

but that's a mid tank anyway

[dark schooner]

I hate playing against the dingo so much

[frail dagger]

and if the STRV-K is like a slightly heavier version (seems fast for a heavy) then i may get it

[silent knoll]

M60A3 is equipped with a T95E7 “needle nose” turret, and armed with a 105mm M68E1 gun. 🥹

[plucky summit]

Why is that emoji even allowed

[dark schooner]

I don’t see the issue with it

[silent knoll]

What, this 🥹?

[misty wing]

🥹

[frail dagger]

Me either 🥹

[plucky summit]

💀

[frail dagger]

sweet god

[misty wing]

what's wrong with it

[dreamy osprey]

🥹

[plucky summit]

It literally looks like it came out of a room full of tear gas, all disoriented

[silent knoll]

🫣

[dark schooner]

Looks fine on apple

[dreamy osprey]

... lets keep the chat limited to the topic

you are free to move to #off-topic-discussion

[plucky summit]

Sorry, tangent dropped

[frail dagger]

Seriously though, will the STRVK be a Heavy Dingo at T10

[misty wing]

no lol

[dark schooner]

So, what do you guys think would be the best tank for farming gold that’s obtainable right now?

[silent knoll]

It looks like it can be heshed by 183 frontally according to @plucky summit

[dreamy osprey]

nope

[plucky summit]

They had to overcompensate the armor with so much DPM lol

[dreamy osprey]

wait did they buff the dpm again?

[frail dagger]

well dangit

[odd cove]

right on the pike

[misty wing]

Strv K will have worse armor and mobility (tier for tier) than the dingo, but relatively more alpha and DPM

[plucky summit]

Not again, I just meant from whatever to 3463

[dreamy osprey]

it still has the mobility of kran

[plucky summit]

No...?

[misty wing]

no it's far better lol

[dreamy osprey]

what da...

hell

[plucky summit]

Given that it's a heavium now, I'd say it's OP

[misty wing]

I wish the strv K was complete garbage ngl

[dreamy osprey]

That thing has more DPM than my CHIEFTAIN

[silent knoll]

It can out dpm a Patton dang

In fact a decent number of 105mm mediums

[night pilot]

https:/ /www.youtube.com/watch?v=REwEnUYXTbQ
U can pen t64 composit armor with m60 lol

[plucky summit]

The turret isn't difficult to penetrate, but the HP advantage makes it a dedicated medium bully, more than the FV215b ever could

[night pilot]

chieftain should do tick damage with its prammo cuz it has depleted uranium

[odd cove]

strv k and type in tournies

[silent knoll]

215b seems like an awkward tank to play tho

[plucky summit]

... depleted Uranium

... depleted Uranium 🤔

[dreamy osprey]

Na i m still more scared of carrot in tournament than strv

[odd cove]

I forgot that existed ngl.

[dreamy osprey]

also chieftain does not have depleted uranium

[night pilot]

it does thoit literally says DU

[plucky summit]

I wouldn't forget about a 1440 clipper

[silent knoll]

Proof and documentation?

[misty wing]

I want meds to have 390 alpha like on PC

[dark schooner]

Anybody happen to have tips for playing in a jpanther II?

[dreamy osprey]

I don't think chieftain ever used DU shells.

[night pilot]

in game it says DU here

[silent knoll]

Strange

[night pilot]

irl pretty sure it dosent use DU rounds and its stardard round should be able to cut thru is4 armor as shown here.
https: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL5uPxVE2nk

[dreamy osprey]

Dunno about what that DU stands for. but definitely not Depleted Uranium

[odd cove]

doesn't have to stand for depleted uranium tho

[dreamy osprey]

Depleted uranium shells were first sported on the M1 Abrams

[plucky summit]

Don't
Undershoot

[storm bobcat]

Then it should deal even less damage and ricochet at smaller angles

[night pilot]

technically its s sub cailiber round as well so

[storm bobcat]

That's what im reffering my point to

[night pilot]

chief standard pen should be buffed to 378mm of pen

[misty wing]

no lol

[plucky summit]

Reminder that WG doesn't care about realism

[solid gate]

wow if wg doesn't care about realism where is my overpowered tier 100 tank from world war 15 smh

[night pilot]

or the dep unarnium arounds 378mm of pen

[dreamy osprey]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Ordnance_L11#Ammunition

chieftain uses the L11 gun.

there is no depleted uranium round listed here because british don't use depleted uranium

[night pilot]

i am talking about shells

[dreamy osprey]

yes

[storm bobcat]

Don't expect that from an arcade game, but im talking about his point, if he expects that detail.

[dreamy osprey]

all shells used by the L11 gun is listed there

[silent knoll]

Did u get this from the internet or is this your book? Im curious

[night pilot]

wdym lol. also ingame literally says it uses dep uranium

[storm bobcat]

My man about to start leaking documents to improve his favorite tank in Blitz

[solid gate]

look guys it doesnt matter it's just two words added to the back of a shell because they needed a premium ammo variant

[plucky summit]

Was about to say

[dreamy osprey]

...

End of the topic

[silent knoll]

What did you work for… how to get book.

[odd cove]

amazon prime 2 day shipping

[dreamy osprey]

We are not discussing this topic anymore. move on

[night pilot]

ah come on i wanna see DU in blitz its cool tho

[dreamy osprey]

Regardless of it being declassified or not. This isn't a place to discuss that

[night pilot]

ok well anyways ingame they have dep uranium, made up by WG devs

[silent knoll]

Oh dear…

[misty wing]

give us the Centurion Action X instead of the FV4202

[solid gate]

and what of the fv, relegated to tier 8?

[dreamy osprey]

why can't we have both?

[plucky summit]

FV4202 collector for free? =o-o=

[silent knoll]

Omg Yesss

[misty wing]

Cent AX as the tech tree tier 10, 4202 as a collector

[night pilot]

what are the shell names for old apds before it all get replaced with ap, like leo has dm23 i think

[solid gate]

wow free 7500 gold for fv can't wait

for the russian mediums they just added a "2" at the end @night pilot

[silent knoll]

4202 nerfed to tier 8 status with Cent gun 💀

[night pilot]

alr time to find out how muhc pen it should have'= xd

[odd cove]

mission: do 4202 damage in the fv4202

[dreamy osprey]

you do realise current 4202 is already near A-tier tank?

[silent knoll]

I suck in it. I wouldn’t know 😞

[misty wing]

my idea for what Cent AX should be is that it has the cent 7/1's HESH pen as standard HE, and HEAT as the premium rounds, so it has the best of both worlds. Otherwise it's basically the same as the 7/1, just slightly more mobility and the extra HP and DPM that come with being a higher tier

[dreamy osprey]

if it gets sent to Tier 8 even with a downgraded gun that thing is gonna break tier 8 because of its mobility and armor

[odd cove]

only hesh all the way

[misty wing]

send it to tier 8 with the original stats (40 km/h top speed and worse turret armor)

[dreamy osprey]

isn't that just the old 4202 gun which was removed for being too op

[silent knoll]

Yeah, that’s why I said nerfed to tier 8 status. Like on PC. Mobility and armor nerfed .

[misty wing]

but it's slower and has a larger profile with worse hull armor than the 4202

[dreamy osprey]

they will probably introduce it as collector anyways

just like the super conq

[storm bobcat]

Not enough needs to be 390 alpha, 6 clip, 2 barrel, 0.01s intraclip, autoreloader with 5s reload, 0.5s aimtime, .07 dispersion and -90° depression.

[solid gate]

cent ax is already fairly worthless on pc

[plucky summit]

Just buff it, ez

[odd cove]

driver is dead then, welp

[silent knoll]

Weak turret and not enough dpm/gun handling?

[dreamy osprey]

tbh i used to say the same thing, give us cent ax instead of 4202 but 4202 is now very good

so don't see a reason to replace the 4202

[storm bobcat]

It's remote controlled, therefore you won't suffer from injured crew.

[misty wing]

bear in mind the 4202 has a HUGE turret with its HD model

[frail dagger]

Heres a question, with a dead loader(s) and a 50% crew, which tank has the longest reload? My bets are in one of the new italian TDS

[dreamy osprey]

KV-2

[silent knoll]

oof

[plucky summit]

Just the tank with the longest reload anyways LOL

[dreamy osprey]

^^

[solid gate]

controcarro mk1 clip reload/m-v-yoh

[dreamy osprey]

oh i know

[plucky summit]

What about auto+reloaders? Their clip reload time?

[dreamy osprey]

its the bloody carrot!

[storm bobcat]

If you ignore the reserve shell on cc56 which everyone does and add intraclip reload that's easily +50s I'd say

[misty wing]

yeah the 4202 for CAX swap on PC was easily the most questionable of the tech tree changes they made on PC a few years back

215b for Sconq, 263 for 268/4, IS-7 line split, and 183 for Badger all made a lot more sense

[frail dagger]

my thoughts exactly

[fleet berry]

WarsawPact#6502 has been warned.

[night pilot]

aww come on

[dreamy osprey]

i already told you off once

next will be a mute

[silent knoll]

@night pilot even if it’s declassified you shouldn’t do that.

[night pilot]

y not its vehicles discussions tho and i am talking abt stats

[plucky summit]

Zip it or Mutsu will zip it for you o.o

[night pilot]

well people wont believe me if i dont prove it

[dreamy osprey]

you are using documents which may be classified or not. This isn't War thunder for everything to be "ACCURATE" like the MiG-19 facing A-10A

[storm bobcat]

Gonna try to get classified files from this guy just bt arguing

[dreamy osprey]

Or BTR-ZD facing Tiger 1s and Jumbos

[night pilot]

its not aganist the rules to post sources that are public and its not off topic as well

[storm bobcat]

My man about to leak the whole british arsenal

[plucky summit]

If your source was NSFW and such, then it is against the rules

[silent knoll]

This isn’t grounds where WG can be held liable because you decide to share some government/defense sector documents. Sealed or unsealed.

[night pilot]

alr fine

well we should buff tier 8 med dpm cuz most of their dpm suck, for their tier at least

[storm bobcat]

He stole his dads documents lol

[silent knoll]

Then you’ll end of having to buff tier 7 and everything below

[plucky summit]

Also mod said no, so no

[dreamy osprey]

end of topic. move on

[night pilot]

tier 7s have more dpm than tier 8s rn lol

or equal dpm on raw numbers, u can also look at dpm to hp ratios,tier 8 meds have it worst

[solid gate]

stock controcarro mk1

[silent knoll]

Pershing has a 5.4 with a 90mm gun. Wdym

[storm bobcat]

What's that say?

[silent knoll]

Combat car 45 T

[dreamy osprey]

just multiple that by x2 for the ammo rack. x2 for the loader. x0.5 for the commander. don't know the multipler for 50% crew

[plucky summit]

The 2nd shell is the only difference in reload between the t8 and t10 lol

[storm bobcat]

I mean reload time

[night pilot]

i mean divide dpm by hp

[silent knoll]

K

[solid gate]

commander doesn't have a 50% multiplier he just debuffs the crew mastery by 10% when dead

[storm bobcat]

Blitz hangar doesn't seem to have European TDs or tank at all which site you guys use

[misty wing]

blitzstars

[night pilot]

3463/1800 = 1.92 using 121b dpm and 1800 as base hp for tier 10 meds
but at tier 8
2334/1450 = 1.609 using cent 5/1 which has the higher dpm in tier 8.
the dpm tier for tier in tier 8 is too weak

and 2109/1100 = 1.917, dpm of t26e3 and average tier 7 med hp.

[solid gate]

90% of tier 8 tds would like to laugh at this statement

[night pilot]

so t8 dpm for meds should get buffed in general

[storm bobcat]

Can't seem to configure crew level

[solid gate]

additionally in case you didn't know the cent 5/1 is middle of the road in medium tank dpm in tier 8

[ocean dock]

Ayo, who’s messin wit my Chinese tanks?

[night pilot]

i have a weird idea, u know how blitz maps are too small right

what if we scale every tank down by half the size and destructable things by half size as well. this way we can get bigger map without actually having bigger maps

[storm bobcat]

Developers already have everything to as small as they can get to improve performance and size.

You can't make it smaller without bringing a problem

[hollow belfry]

The solution to that is simply to nerf view range

[storm bobcat]

Fun idea for a mode, you can't spot unless you're literally 5m of the enemy tank

[lyric copper]

realistic:

[storm bobcat]

For Halloween lets say

[lyric copper]

60% of the playerbase is blind without markers

[storm bobcat]

My point is you're invincible otherwise, not that you can be always seen lol.

[lyric copper]

the Leo 1 can actually be played comfortably in realistic

No one shoots you.

[valid gale]

This also is not true

[storm bobcat]

There is literally no point made to be designated wrong or true, what are you even talking about.

[valid gale]

Even if you can’t be seen your not invincible realistic proves this it’s also a super boring mode

[storm bobcat]

What?

How is it boring when you can bump into any enemy, anywhere any time, you're saying something intense and suspenseful like that is boring?

It could even recieve a speed boost in fact, the point is it's like playing minecraft with 1 chunk render distance, the enemy pops suddenly near you and immediately out.

The popped enemy could be spotted for the rest of the team or isolated to the individual.

[solid gate]

people enjoy different things and this one in particular does not feel joy in realistic its not very complicated, there's no need to convince him otherwise

[misty wing]

realistic and gravity are both god awful modes

[valid gale]

You know that radio reporting in sound whenever someone’s spotted?

[solid gate]

yes

[valid gale]

Imaging being in your group since everyone’s blind as a bat and numbers is the only safety now imagine peeking over a hill and the enemies doing the same and they keep rocking forwards and backwards

[solid gate]

to be fair i have one grudge with realistic in that even if you know how to use bush mechanics properly they can simply hover over the bush and see you anyway
the rest is fairly alright, just your normal game with slightly more challenge

[supple hearth]

I agree with the realistic being awful but Gravity nah it's fun

[misty wing]

gravity is such a massive campoff with TDs sitting in spawn and thrustering up for a shot every 15 seconds

it's so stupid how a mode where everyone gets buffed mobility ends up favoring a more passive playstyle

[valid gale]

Also it’s weird he said a speed boost could be given and used a Minecraft comparison ( which explains everything)

Gravity has been a crap mode ever since they gave tds thruster and nerfed the thruster ability overall to pander to HEAVIES

[misty wing]

thruster should've never been a thing to begin with. Completely ruined the mode

[valid gale]

Nah it’s a necessity

[solid gate]

gravity is awful, it basically relegates any non-german heavy to the bottom because they're fairly useless and now your worthless teammates because even more worthless because they literally rush in and die while playing their maus
additionally tds act skilled when they just thruster and shoot mid-air, any toddler can hit a pixel perfect shot, not to mention they hardly recieve any damage in return. i've seen some wz113gft hit me twice with the thruster and proceed to miss at 50m infront of me, how sad

[supple hearth]

Lights, mediums and TD's need those to avoid getting rammed

[storm bobcat]

Who the hell is gonna hump a hill when spotting distance is 10m or less?

[valid gale]

Heavies are an absolute nightmare and the no skill factor gets amplified 10 fold in gravity want to play any other class? Too bad here’s 4 superheavies darting straight towards you

[misty wing]

I'd rather be rammed to death by superheavies than have the stupid TD trickshot spam

[storm bobcat]

Skill issue, you have thrusters and superheavies get played around easily like a bull

[solid gate]

at least you can avoid heavies, tds just jump up laugh so loudly your eardrums burst, hit you for 1000 damage while taking 0 in return because they played their jagdpanzer e100
not to mention this kid can just ram you anyway

[misty wing]

ramming is at least entertaining to watch, and would be even more so if we had proper physics like on PC

unlike the stupid jageroo jumping

[valid gale]

Back from April.. @solid gate

[supple hearth]

I always camp in my TD in gravity

[misty wing]

and that's why gravity is a crap mode

[supple hearth]

Skill Issue

[solid gate]

lol... i would rather just reduce the ramming damage from heavies altogether using some ability, but then the random child in their maus would start crying and organizing a revolution

[misty wing]

I don't think you even know what that means

[supple hearth]

There's an equipment for that to reduce ram damage to 20%

[valid gale]

The most blatant in your face heavy pandering

[supple hearth]

Rather run away from a Maus going towards me

[misty wing]

idk about you but I'd rather promote a yolo playstyle than a camping playstyle, especially for a gamemode

[solid gate]

yeah helps a lot in my t57 heavy when i get tapped for 90% of my health by a maus "but at least you were alive"

i mean hey you can go continue to watch anggael videos and praise the mode if you wish but i seriously do not consider it to be a fun one

[misty wing]

anyway, big boss is easily the best gamemode. All it needs is some QoL improvements for the boss and maybe 1-2 extra classes so it doesn't get as boring to not be the boss

[solid gate]

nerf bomber so you can only refresh the skill twice per life or something, it's hilarious but some dude just rushes in and kills 4 tanks because they happened to be too close to each other, what a joke

[misty wing]

just remove the thing where you ability resets from leveling up

actually, the whole levels thing is kinda unnecessary imo

[supple hearth]

I love being a bomber and rush towards the enemies

[solid gate]

true but it would incentivize activity in a way since people who do nothing but sit at the back should obviously be weaker than you

[misty wing]

I guess, but maybe it would be better to implement an uprising-style thing where you can buy upgrades with points that you get through doing damage

[solid gate]

yeah i can tell you play this game for "haha funny lol screenshotted" after rushing into the entire enemy team which mind you falls under "unsportsmanlike conduct"

[solid gate]

i guess that could work, like having a sort of skill tree for each class, that's quite a good idea actually

[supple hearth]

But i love the ability that increases your damage and have a poison ability

[misty wing]

what does that have to do with the "haha funny lol screenshotted" thing the other guy mentioned though

[storm bobcat]

Damn made a light suggestion to someone who made a sarcastic comment and started a whole war out here lmao

[solid gate]

we take pixel games very seriously, now go ahead and laugh, tell your family about it

[misty wing]

and I think graviton needs to be changed in some way, it's never good when something is simultaneously the least fun to play as and the least fun to play against

[solid gate]

i mean graviton like you use the ability, they can't shoot at you and you have a hard time aiming at them, it's a concept that can't really be changed since it's about gravity and you can't really modify such an idea

[misty wing]

both graviton and healer are too far relegated into a support role. They need to have something that unlocks individual plays a little more

perhaps improved mobility (like gravity mode) for graviton
Healer should just be able to heal itself, or have double HP or something

[solid gate]

double hp seems excessive maybe something like 5% per level, but i guess it already gives a dpm buff so idk, seems more like a normal tank with more dpm but can heal teammates than just a support

[misty wing]

I think you'd be crazy to want to play as graviton or healer over the catalyst currently

[solid gate]

yeah the catalyst is just better

[valid gale]

I literally don’t get why they didn’t have it passively heal itself

It’s the worst sub role to play as in big boss

[misty wing]

I prefer it to graviton tbh, sometimes it's funny to follow your boss around in a peashooter tank as a healer

but both of them are rather snoozefest

[solid gate]

oh yeah it really should, like 1% per second, still takes a while to completely heal to full

[misty wing]

bomber should have an ability that pertains to its gun, like dealing AoE damage with its shots or having increased chance to set on fire or something

[solid gate]

level 5 tactical nuke

[misty wing]

bc if they remove the toxic consecutive bombing with leveling up I'd say it's rather weak

[valid gale]

Knock back

[misty wing]

what if they gave it atgms lmao

[solid gate]

what if the sheridan missile gets atgms 🤯

[misty wing]

then it counteracts itself and becomes the regular sheridan

[solid gate]

demoted

[misty wing]

boss should be immune to module/crew damage and have infinite ammo
but increase the CD on its knockback skill

[solid gate]

theres new channels at the bottom, bigboss challenge 🤔

[misty wing]

hmmm

anyone know if enhanced armor helps on the 4202

[solid gate]

somewhat

[bitter lichen]

I can easy penetrante it with my Carro

[solid gate]

Should I grind minotauro or 60tp ?

60 MinotauroTP

[strange thicket]

are you seriously discussing balance in a fun mode
and also the bomber rushing thing doesn't work all of the time, and if it does it is because of something else(which is equally ridiculous) happening
like enemies piling ontop of each other in the middle of the map.
"quit having fun"

[solid gate]

isn't that the motto of wargaming titles

[strange thicket]

let's apply it to fun modes as well !

[solid gate]

i wonder why they didn't just make you die instantly if you get shot sounds like fun

[odd cove]

better realistic mode:

[strange thicket]

me piling gun buffing perks in uprising 😱

[misty wing]

@strange thicket ngl after using the new Ammoel camo for the T57 for a few weeks, I think you were right

Tireless >>>>

[solid gate]

it looks much better were it not for the flap things ngl

[misty wing]

They were definitely slightly overdone

Turret also needs the white to be broken up a bit more imo

[plucky summit]

Me when Ritter has 370 CS APCR penetration

[solid gate]

me when the T110E4

[misty wing]

Me when the T110E3 Bulwark

[solid gate]

404mm APCR, now the highest APCR pen in-game
still doesn't beat the ho-ri's nominal or 268/jge100's 418 flat though

[misty wing]

They should make a turreted French TD with the 155mm

[solid gate]

and that would be?

[misty wing]

AMX 50 155, duh

[plucky summit]

I could try and make a concept sheet of one up x-x

[misty wing]

And obviously it will have bad DPM and huge cupola weakspots so that a certain foch guy can complain about it

[misty wing]

Please do uwu

[plucky summit]

I'll include the big ol Foch cupola on the turret

And uh, don't do that again 😅

It's another excuse not to do your requests 😎

[safe cedar]

AMX 50 foch. Lol

[solid gate]

AMX 50 (Foch) 155

[safe cedar]

Make it have the weakest fuel tank, ammorack, and engine in-game, with à 70% chance of fire so I really have something to complain about.

[misty wing]

I mean there's an AMX 50 100 and an AMX 50 120

[solid gate]

Where is the AMX 50 C

[old vapor]

ah mb

[solid gate]

Sir. "A" Is completely unnecessary. It would simply be called "AMX 50"
(wrong reply)

[misty wing]

AMX M4 mle. 2022

[safe cedar]

Technically it's AMX m4 --> AMX 50 --> AMX 50 which was converted --> AMX 50 with prototype turret mounted with 120mm --> AMX 50 surblindé --> AMX 50 surbaissé hull with the tourelle D mounted.

[solid gate]

Technically it's AAAAAA

[strange thicket]

me when no Ritter :(
@misty wing i told you lol

[misty wing]

Ok but AMX 65T is one of the ugliest tanks in wot, idc how much you like French tanks

[strange thicket]

i second that
that turret looks awful

[safe cedar]

Agreed, the AMX 65t Is absolutely hideous.

[strange thicket]

poor ugly little thing

[safe cedar]

The AMX 30 ACRA is also pretty horrendous.

[misty wing]

What is this side profile man

[plucky summit]

Lookin very Foch-like

Though ofc it's 50 120

[misty wing]

I kinda like it-

[safe cedar]

In warthunder it's ok tbh, irl when I've seen it, it's pretty bad.

[solid gate]

All the french tanks look absolutely hideous

[misty wing]

Lorraine 50T is sexy

[solid gate]

It's disgusting.

[strange thicket]

i think batchat is good looking too imo

[safe cedar]

To each his own.

[solid gate]

Well, I do suppose not all of them are terrible.
All but one

[misty wing]

Tier 10 batchat is fine
The AP is ugly

This thing looks so good

[safe cedar]

Because the AP is fake.

[solid gate]

That's just a child's drawing of the AMX M4 54. Abhorrent, I say.

[misty wing]

AMX CDC is also sexy

[solid gate]

That's just a child's drawing of a sports car. Tolerable, I guess

[safe cedar]

Panhard ebr look nice.

[misty wing]

Wish it had a TD caliber gun

The CDC, not the EBR

[solid gate]

Well, I did say tanks. You're talking armored cars

[proven urchin]

.

[safe cedar]

In wot they are light tanks kek.

[solid gate]

Hey now, it's for balancing purposes and thus why it cannot be given a different designation
Clearly.

[misty wing]

The Leclerc is probably the ugliest contemporary tank though imo

[safe cedar]

Ebr is more of à tank than the mark 1.

[solid gate]

Well the french will be french. It looks terrible

Trust me, I'm not british. Most of their tanks look like absolute garbage as well

[safe cedar]

Nah, T14 armata is worse imo.

[misty wing]

I'll have to wait for pics of it in combat ready gear and camo

But the prototypes are pretty ugly

[solid gate]

Like, seriously? Are you making tank designs based on a misshapen table???
(Wrong reply again)

[plucky summit]

Reply issue

[solid gate]

It's 10PM

[weary tiger]

Best looking tank in blitz IMO is type 71 sankai

[misty wing]

Wrong, it's the VK 72.01 K

[old vapor]

i prefer the is-4

[solid gate]

I must ask you to please vacate the premises

[weary tiger]

The vk 72 looks like a vk90 that got ran over by a maus more than once

[safe cedar]

The reason why French tanks have some ugly turrets is budget cuts Because they were promising.

[plucky summit]

AMX M4 mle. 54 got a cool and effective one B)

[misty wing]

I do love the TCB turret, if that's what it's called

[weary tiger]

I mean the tiger 1 is a close second for me but idk about the leopard 1

[solid gate]

Clearly, the french were overcompensating

[misty wing]

Tiger II >>>> Tiger I

[safe cedar]

AMX 30 was selected because it was cheaper

[weary tiger]

Naaaaaaah

[solid gate]

Objection.

[plucky summit]

Objection

[safe cedar]

I don't see it.

[weary tiger]

Cool camo yes but I like historical looking tanks

[violet timber]

Object 140 perhaps?

[solid gate]

I don't see how the Type 71 is in any way, historic.

[weary tiger]

Let me rephrase that, more realistic camos

[dire topaz]

That's realistic

[safe cedar]

Tbh I prefer type 74

[misty wing]

I want a French heavy with a rear mounted turret

Why is it only the lights that have that

[solid gate]

I don't see how my example was unrealistic. After all, it's only magma flowing through a tank.

[violet timber]

Time to download a 50b model in sprocket and move the turret to the back

[weary tiger]

Looks more like the lava golems from ARK than a tank

[solid gate]

Well... I suppose that's why it's called "Golem"

[weary tiger]

You don’t say

[misty wing]

China has the best looking tanks. Britain the worst

[solid gate]

If you can somehow convince me that this box is somehow good-looking I shall concede.

[heavy nest]

Super conqueror amor or HP?

[solid gate]

Tracks.

[plucky summit]

I'd run armor

[misty wing]

The bicycle attachment

[solid gate]

The attachment looks good. Not the tank.

[misty wing]

I think this is a mod, but it looks cool imo

[misty wing]

Would be even better if it was rear mounted

[tulip knot]

Where bike

[solid gate]

Disagree.

[safe cedar]

It's alright with fuel tanks. Same for T-55.

[solid gate]

Intolerable at best

[safe cedar]

Why play WOT if you despise the visage of tanks so?

[solid gate]

See. You play this game to admire tanks, while I play this game to send the boy on the other team to his mother, crying in rage. We're not the same

[safe cedar]

That's a quite sad Outlook and provides considerable insight into your present condition.

[karmic zealot]

Ka-Mi, Ka-Chi in WoTB?

[plucky summit]

Not even worth #blitz-art tbh

[violet timber]

Interesting design

[misty wing]

I'll try to draw one later

[humble escarp]

Nop, it's wot pc

[misty wing]

A mod for wot pc

[humble escarp]

Ok ._.

[storm bobcat]

Unironically better than 60% of the art in #blitz-art

[plucky summit]

Thanks 😅

[wanton marlin]

Looks like a Japanese/French collaboration project. Ha the Foch 155 gun and looks a type 5 heavy with more angled armor

[misty wing]

okay yeah no the FV4202 will always be a garbage tank as long as it takes as much gunner and loader damage as it currently does

it's also unbelievably easy to track

[balmy compass]

I play the 4202 and my gunner and loader hardly dies

[odd cove]

4202 is a nice tank to play imo

[balmy compass]

the tank has nearly no side armor so it's easy to track if you angle slightly

[misty wing]

I've had a crew member die, I heal him, only for him to die again with the following shot at least 5 times within like 20 games

[odd cove]

british tanks:

[balmy compass]

do you use protective equipment?

[misty wing]

I never use protective kit if that's what you mean

[balmy compass]

if you use it your crew will die less

[misty wing]

I don't have to on any other tank

[balmy compass]

this tank is different from every other tank
not every tank is the same

[misty wing]

so this tank is garbage then, that's what the difference is

[balmy compass]

ah yes, because my crew dies when I get shot where the crew is means the tank is bad

[misty wing]

it does mean it's bad because you can't play aggressive
playing aggressive is what wins games

[junior dirge]

Pz IV Gargoyles good tank ?

[balmy compass]

4202 has very usable armor, esp when you use gun dep, you can even block some heavy shells that way, that will prevent you from getting hit and causing your crew to die

@junior dirge yes, the goofy 280 alpha is alot for tier V, it also has some frontal armor for it's tier, but the pen lacks and getting uptiered sucks alot and the shell velocity is terrible, I suggest using supercharger in equipment

[misty wing]

4202 is the only tank I've ever played where I've felt afraid to take shots even while full HP lmao
just because of the absurd amount of module and crew damage it takes

[balmy compass]

then run protective equipment lol
it's literally what it is used for, so you can take hits and not lose something every single time

[misty wing]

screw the hesh, I'll just play the M48 and have a tank that can perform at its peak throughout the duration of the game

[misty wing]

I'll try it but I can almost guarantee it will be the same result

[balmy compass]

well then it will be your choice to keep playing it then

[junior dirge]

I remember ammorack a Leopard with HE-

[balmy compass]

ammoracks happen on every tank, except maybe Lycan

[misty wing]

running protective kit + cali on 4202 makes it almost completely lose the DPM advantage it has over the Leo with HESH
really quite sad

[balmy compass]

you don't need to run cali for the 4202
what are you swapping out for protective kit?

[misty wing]

small food

[deft dragon]

Does anyone know if the e 25 is gonna be in shop again anytime soon?

[balmy compass]

also, Leo doesn't have HESH, it also has a rather lacky HE alpha compared to other meds, so don't expect Leo to be running around spamming HE like 4202 spamming HESH

[misty wing]

what I'm saying is that CS 4202 with hesh barely has more DPM than the leo with AP

both round to 3800

[balmy compass]

4202 has a much more workable armor profile then the Leo
and you get module dmg with HESH

[misty wing]

but in exchange, you get a tank with a dead crew member from every single shot

[balmy compass]

do you get shot in the turret alot?

[misty wing]

I mean you do have to expose the turret to shoot at your enemies

[balmy compass]

I personally use enhanced armor because a friend told me combined with gun dep it blocks alot of shells, you could try that if you want, I still get penned in the weird cheek and turret "forehead" but usually don't lose any crew member

[misty wing]

maybe I've just been supremely unlucky, but so far I've been dying/losing in the most stupid ways because I get stuck with crew/module damage from taking 2 shots from a med

[balmy compass]

I can't really suggest anything else to help you on crew dmg, it might also be bad rng since crew get crit similar to modules

[misty wing]

I'm not asking for advice
I'm merely suggesting that if the FV4202 is normally as prone to crew damage as it has been for me, then that genuinely holds it back from being considered a good tank

[balmy compass]

statistically the accuracy also sucks compared to every other med

[thorn walrus]

Sold mine after around 30 battles since my muppet head can’t even hold 60% wr with it

[odd cove]

sad

haven’t played mine in a while but it’s stuck at 65%

[safe cedar]

Honestly in my opinion Fv4202 is insane, currently my best performing tank by à massive margin.

[misty wing]

not a french tank? heresy

[late thistle]

I love playing the Sheridan and T-100 LT. How would you compare the Vickers Light to these? Is it more of an "armored brawler" light? I might consider grinding it next once I'm done with the Mauschen

[misty wing]

it's more of a worse medium

[nimble surge]

Hey world of tanks/ wot can I get tanks I have no good tanks so I wondering if you could help?

[misty wing]

1. Yes you can get tanks
2. No we can't help you get them

[chrome turtle]

A big part of the game is grinding for better tanks, getting the best with no grind whatsoever deletes the point of the game.

[nimble surge]

:(

[junior wing]

do collector tanks make as much money as premiums?

[violet timber]

Some do, some don’t

[dapper violet]

The grind is fun!

[wanton marlin]

Skorpion G > all other t8

[solid gate]

Abit exaggerated

Opinions on best Tier 10 lights/mediums/heavies?

[fleet berry]

ImaKamikaze#7041 has been warned.

[limpid cave]

Light:

Personal opinion. T-100 LT. Suits me best.

Racing forward, spotting them, getting a shot at someone and making them visible for my team for 20 sec. Hide. Repeat.

[tulip knot]

Lights I’d say the vickers. The alpha is much more workable than the t-100, and it is stronger than the sheri. Idk about batchat tho, I haven’t played it.

[solid gate]

Hi

[limpid cave]

Sounds interesting. I just grinded my way to the Vickers Tier X. Haven't bothered to buy it yet. Considering trying Leopard 1 first.

BC25 I absolutely love. Kinda similar to T-100. Fast AF. Hide, drop the 3 shells quickly, run & hide. Repeat

[misty wing]

sounds like every light tank ever*

Batchat is bad, pretty much a troll pick. Doesn't really have anything on the TVP
Sheridan is probably the best light right now, and the most unique one, due to being more substantially different from the available mediums which are generally better than lights

[tulip knot]

personally i do better in the leo, but its much more stressful than the vickers. vickers is definetly easier to play than leo, but both are solid tanks

[limpid cave]

Can someone explain why a tier 5 tank costs this much ?

[civic tiger]

i dont really know but i heard that it gives you a lot of credits

[vast bison]

Very high credit coefficient, earn as much as a löwe from what I heard

[solid gate]

so just buy a lowe and earn more through medals
🤯

[vast bison]

Yea but tier5 take less effort to win and have more sealclubbing, personally would go for lowe myself

[dreamy osprey]

Highest credit coefficient in game and it was a very rare tank.

"was"

[distant nymph]

Anyone know what happened to the 50 100's legendary camo? (that spooky pumpkin one with the orange turret) It's been quite some time and it's still not available in camo tab, do you think it will ever come out of offers only?

[solid gate]

they always do, until they don't

[distant nymph]

it should come out eventually... Right?

[frail dagger]

Ah like the M4 shermans camo

[distant nymph]

wasn't that one outright cancelled/removed before release because everyone hated it? Could probably be the same for the AMX in hindsight, haven't seen anyone rocking its camo

[frail dagger]

its never been released to my knowledge, so i would guess its just gone

[distant nymph]

probably, woudn't miss it

[frail dagger]

Fair fair

[shy nebula]

Yay, a way out of bankruptcy

[valid gale]

Yes the E6s legendary camo was also heavily downvoted and in favor rather than upvotes:

It still got added

[shy nebula]

I just need to grind the whole day watching ads

I did the math, I'll need to watch ads for 8 weeks to get enough gold

Wait no

5 weeks actually

[civic tiger]

Not worth it, its a tier 5

[shy nebula]

I would do it if it was a bt-42

[heady forge]

Hey guys, which is better, Obj.140 or WZ-121?

[misty wing]

121 probably

[solid wolf]

@limpid cave not worth it dont.

[nova pilot]

Haii

[junior pawn]

Guys, is the tiger (p) is a decent vehicle for the big boss mode ?

[strange thicket]

i disagree that batchat is bad, it is much more dynamic than a TVP but really difficult to play though which is why you don't see many good batchats i guess lol

[storm bobcat]

Just buy IS-5 by that title instead, I got like 650 battles and have 1440 gold + 5 gold boosters not used yet and my supply is VI tier.

Just get into an active clan regardless of their supply tier and increase yours 50% faster by platooning, even faster with premium and a premium vehicle to farm free xp.

[trail laurel]

Is it just me that ST-I upper plate armor feel better than IS-4 even tho IS-4 has higher Base armour

[trail laurel]

The 2 edge of the Front ricochet alot of Bullet

[worldly rain]

850 ads for a tier 5 when you can watch 150 ads and get 3 tier 10s

[weary tiger]

One can fight t8s and 9s one can only fight tier 10s and 9s.

[worldly rain]

recieve 1k gold or a premium or a collector tier v to x (players choice of tanks)

[solid gate]

i dont think you know how this works

[odd cove]

you do know that the chances are completely random right, and not guaranteed tank, or gold
mostly xp certs ngl

[worldly rain]

Open the crate and you get a chance of getting something

simple

[violet timber]

If you get something, it’s not your choice as to what you get, it’s random chance of what’s in the crate

[worldly rain]

you get a random tank then is what you say

[solid gate]

please read the text displayed there thoroughly.
i know this may be difficult but you may contact me if you need help

[dapper violet]

with a 5% chance of getting a tank yes

[violet timber]

If a tank is dropped, what that tank is is random.

[worldly rain]

yes i know that

[tulip knot]

So in reality you most likely just get nothing. Good waste of 1500 gold tho.

[worldly rain]

Whats the best thing to spend gold on

[tulip knot]

If you have the gold, buy tanks that are just in bundles. No crates

[hybrid radish]

Guys i have 10.337 gold. Should i wait the christmas time? Or now geting the e 75 ts or is-6 ? Which one or do you prefer other thing?
(ILL BUY TANK)

[odd cove]

depends on what you want

[stray hare]

should the 17pdr SP Achilles be added as a prem td?

[violet timber]

Charles:

[humble escarp]

Wait

[shy nebula]

Oh ya forgot about that crate

[vapid leaf]

In the youtube video of WoT Blitz. Update 9.5 Review: Improved Big Boss Mode and other changes, at 1.14 seconds you can see some kind of Grille 15 with a Förster camo.(bottom left) What kind of tank is this.

[violet timber]

It’s a legendary camo

[balmy compass]

Wooooo
Another Legendary camo!!!!!!
Like Grille needed a 3rd camo….

[solid gate]

E 50M has 3 camos now.

[vapid leaf]

With an attachment it seems.

[hybrid radish]

Okk

[balmy compass]

And the 3rd looks the worst out of all of them

Legendary camo for Panther I when smh

[solid gate]

add hd tank in phone with android 8 pls

[elfin bronze]

Can you recommend me a t10 to farm pls

[lilac mica]

Depends what you got and like

[elfin bronze]

I’ll go for a medium or td

[tulip knot]

How skilled are you?

If you’re very skilled, the Leo 1 is a great tank, but only for the best players. E50m and the t62a are both good tanks, but the e50m has a kinda sucky line. Tvp is good too but harder to play. This is all just my opinion of course

[late thistle]

I want the E50M but I don't want to grind the Panthers :/

[odd cove]

the panthers are fine

[tight storm]

I love wg i just get vk 90

[ocean cedar]

Yes the best armor in the game and the best heavy

[tight storm]

Thats true

[odd cove]

debatable but I vouch for it

[valid bronze]

will Sheridan missile ever be back?

[kind flicker]

no

[solid gate]

Progetto 65 needs a buff to it's accuracy. I just finished the grind yesterday and bought it, maxed out and am VERY DISAPPOINTED. The gun misses shots that even a t-34-3 or Conway would hit and it doesn't even have alpha (like the WZ-121) to make up for it. Mobility is also sluggish and not to mention the gun depression feeling more like 6.5 degrees rather than 9. I am disappointed with this vehicle and I enjoyed standard B so these issues aren't my fault. It needs a buff.

[kind flicker]

your playing it wrong then, prog is a great tank

[solid gate]

How exactly am I playing it wrong? I've tried everything and can't get it to work. Standard B is much better.

[kind flicker]

its a hit and run tank, but also a sniper

[solid gate]

Helló

I play it that way (Same as the rest of the line) and my shells just fly off to Naria.

Hangeri

[valid bronze]

y

too overpowered?

[solid gate]

It was removed for a reason.

[violet timber]

Sheri missile is a different tank, and we don't know whether it's coming back or not

[lyric copper]

maybe it should, maybe it won’t

[solid gate]

No chance it comes back

[pine moss]

Super conq or Amx mle 49?

[tulip knot]

Panther 2 is kinda mid and e50 is a nightmare stock (really anything but top modules)

[late thistle]

uh? in what way? different tiers...

[tulip knot]

How much do you want to spend? Both are solid, but t54e2 is probably better than amx

[late thistle]

I played Mauschen with stock engine and tracks for a while 🙂

[tulip knot]

Still, you have armor, health, and alpha damage. E50 stock has 220 damage, 203 pen, 1600hp, and is still slow as hell

[pine moss]

Bro what they are both tier X and 20k gold

[tulip knot]

You mean amx m4 54, not amx m4 49

[late thistle]

yea but for example if I was somewhere wrong I didn't even bother moving/relocating...

[pine moss]

My bad

[tulip knot]

No worries. Also @late thistle just be in the right spots

[hardy copper]

Super conq

Bcause the turret way more safer than Amx, and good for hull down

[plucky summit]

What??? AMX’s turret is near the top

Super Conqueror is easier to press 2 on

[violet timber]

I’d still say conq due to the hull

[hardy copper]

Nah man, super conq turret is hard asf, ive trying to pen it with jgpz heat and the result all of turret red expect the copula, but its hard to hit

[violet timber]

You can actually just HE the turret roof lol

[hardy copper]

I know man, i just comparing it to amx

[plucky summit]

Don’t make a joke of your argument here 😅
And my phone uncrops the image, great.

[hardy copper]

Still super conq harder to pen

[violet timber]

Wut

[plucky summit]

You’re joking.

[remote kindle]

Super conq is overrated

[hardy copper]

Aggre

[late thistle]

Is the E4 worth grinding? Asking because I already own the E3 so the line would be pretty easy to grind since most top modules are already unlocked.

[violet timber]

Don’t get me wrong, I think the skonk is better, but the AMXs frontal turret is 100% better

[plucky summit]

You can’t just seriously tell me in light of these images, that Super Conqueror has a safer turret than AMX

[ivory sail]

im new to the game, going down the french light tank line, love the play style of the amx bis, what other light tech tree should i start going down?

[shy nebula]

French ant less go!

[ivory sail]

i love just hiding under t1 and kv1 turrets

[late thistle]

I only own the sconq but it has a lower profile and more gun dep I think? seems more flexible and a better all rounder

[plucky summit]

Look, Super Conqueror is better, but certainly NOT because of the turret

[hardy copper]

But the sconq still harder for me man, this my opinion im not forced you into this maybe im just having skill issues

[shy nebula]

Who needs armor when you are faster than their bullets

[plucky summit]

Your opinion is literally just a false fact 💀

Sure you may struggle with SConq, but that doesn’t make its turret better

[ivory sail]

I hate that theres only 45 degree turret arc tho

[plucky summit]

I’ll just assume you haven’t met enough hulldown mle 54s

[shy nebula]

Ya, is price to be made

[ivory sail]

can never put my self in a position to run when in a bush

[ivory sail]

do you have any experience with the soviet lights? eyeing that tree

[hardy copper]

Hey man, im just giving my opinion its not acctually contain a fact that im really im sure on it

And you know its based on my experience not yours

[plucky summit]

I’m not arguing based on my experience

[hardy copper]

My man 💀

Its about my experience not yours, im telling it first

[plucky summit]

Well I’m not gonna let your experience hide the truth that AMX’s turret is stronger, and the versatility of SC should be the reason to pick it, not the turret armor

[tardy spoke]

They could make a gift when it's Christmas to celebrate the holidays or some new way to play, I don't know an idea.

[plucky summit]

Off to shower 😵‍💫

[shy nebula]

Not that much, im goin for the heavies

[shy nebula]

Imagine taking a shower

[wanton marlin]

Play them like mediums. Brawl, spot and focus fire with your team mates. Pick off alone enemies or enemies that are distracted with your teammates

[tulip knot]

Very good tanks. Tier 7-10 all play similarly, good guns and troll armor and lots of speed. Basically just peekaboo your opponents and don’t get shot, using your speed and sneakiness to stay alive.

[pine moss]

How about the SConquerer vs VK. 90 ? looking for a good tier x premium/collector heavy

[plucky summit]

VK 90.01 P is always nice, though it's less of a generalist like SC

[pine moss]

So you’re saying the SC is the one. I mean I have the chieftain.

[plucky summit]

SC is like a better protected Chieftain

[pine moss]

Rlly dunno what to go for during the auction. Apparently the sc is superior

[stiff raft]

I suppose so, I have both heavies. but I'll have you know, if you enjoy the rear turreted German super heavies, you'll love the vk 90.01 p. It's by far, the best rear turreted heavy in the game in my opinion.

[pine moss]

Yeah well there aren’t many in tier x, pretty much just saying it’s better than the vk 72.

[stiff raft]

I meant tier for tier, but yeah, I know.

[misty wing]

VK 72 is better than the VK 90 and I'll die on a hill for that one

[dusk apex]

Extremely false

[stiff raft]

In many ways, you are right, both for alpha and the tungsten shells consumable. But despite not having the ability to put the fear of God into its enemies via massive alpha, the VK 90 is able to hold positions exceptionally well due to its incredible sidescraping abilities, great frontal turret armor, and a decent all round gun with 10 degrees of gun depression.

[dapper violet]

Last I heard, vk 90 has 4 depression in the forwards direction

[stiff raft]

Yeah, but in a perfect sidescrape, it has about 8 or 9, and 10 everywhere else, it can just reverse poke along a ridgeline like a waffle might.

[dapper violet]

If you reach the sidescrape angle with 10 dep people can prammo your track side

It mugged the Vk 100 and stole its gun depression

[stiff raft]

Yeah, but as long as you sidescrape to the point where you have about 8 degrees, I becomes exceptionally difficult.

[dapper violet]

True. The tank's still nightmare fuel to play against - its terrifying.

[stiff raft]

😂 yeah, in the right hands. That's why I love it.

[dapper violet]

Something small (If they gave the vk 100 similar armor to the vk 90 and uptiered it to X, everyone would play it)
also the vk 90 is a buffed version of the vk 75

[stiff raft]

Ooh, basically a frontal turret redesign of the vk 90, that would be interesting.

[dapper violet]

It would be nice to play - although rear turrets are good for sidescraping, middle turrets are great as an all rounder
That's one of the many reasons the vk 100 is my favorite tank in the maus line even though it doesn't exist

Vk 100, 90, and 75 are funny imaginary tanks
vk 100 in blueprints
90 and 75 on WG tissue paper

[stiff raft]

Yeah, I remember the vk 100 when I was grinding the maus, It was my first tier 10. I enjoyed the vk 100, but I made the big mistake of angling my turret as well as the body of the tank, instead of keeping it pointed straight ahead to the enemy.

[odd cove]

turn the turret around and switch the armor values from one side to the other

[dapper violet]

Vk 168 but even more cursed

[misty wing]

extremely true

[scarlet kernel]

Idea, for strv 103.
What if they scrap the "siege" Mechanic. Y'know when you aim too far to the side in a turretless td the tank move automatically? What if wg just do that but smoother?

[misty wing]

that's what they did for the STB and swedish meds

[junior wing]

The amx 13 105 needs to added

[valid gale]

Really doesn’t

[solid gate]

batchat 25t..?

[misty wing]

What if they made an autoreloading tank with like 12 shots in the magazine, but the reloads start from reserve shell, terribad DPM levels and slowly get better the more shells you load, until the last one where you have insane DPM if you fire that shell only, but it takes like 2 minutes of loading reserve shells to get there

[hollow belfry]

That would be utterly useless. The Carro and Minotauro's 20s reserve shells already hamper your ability to get initial shots off in a lot of situations

[misty wing]

so the reloads are like

18 > 16 > 14 > 13 > 12 > 11 > 10 > 8 > 7 > 6 > 4 > 2 seconds with a 4 second intra clip

I would love it lmao

[hollow belfry]

A two minutes clip would mean the battle is already well underway and sometimes its outcome already decided while you're not even done reloading your clip

[misty wing]

that's exactly why it would be fun, and then you can flame your teammates for not letting you load while they flame you back for being useless

and wow I completely winged those numbers and they end up adding to 121 seconds so my 2 minutes estimate was extremely close lmao

[hollow belfry]

A tank where I'm as useless as the average 45%er in quick battles sounds SO fun💀

[misty wing]

as well as the decision making to be like "hmm my team is falling apart, maybe I should give up trying to fully reload and go help them"

[valid gale]

I don’t get the appeal to bad ideas Ngl

[misty wing]

what the heck does "appeal to bad ideas" mean

[tight storm]

In my opinion it would be so much fun to play

[solid gate]

I love having an average damage of 0

[hollow belfry]

👆

[misty wing]

you're pointing to a comment that doesn't make any sense

[solid gate]

he doesn't get the people who are so on about adding obviously irrational and worthless ideas to this game in the name of "fun"

[misty wing]

I assume he means the appeal of bad ideas then

Well I on the other hand, don't get the appeal of every tank being the same and 90% of autoloaders having 3 or 4 shots in the magazine

or the appeal of such a low variance in DPM, with "good" DPM being only 20% better than "bad" dpm

having to build up your DPM through trigger discipline and loading many shells to have a super strong tank is obviously something unique and can even bring an X factor into competitive play

[solid gate]

Please don't talk about comp when you obviously have no idea what you're talking about

[hollow belfry]

All I see about this "trigger discipline" with a 121 seconds full reload to reach full dpm is an extremely inflexible tank and the claim to its relevance in comp is more than questionable

[solid gate]

You're down a tank before it becomes viable anyway, only having good dpm at the 3rd last shell to be reloaded assuming it does like 400 damage, and even then it's 2400 dpm

[misty wing]

those were just random numbers that can be changed as I said, I'm just proposing a concept

[misty wing]

with those numbers I think it would have to have 500 alpha, I did specify "insane DPM once fully loaded" after all

[solid gate]

5,000 dpm after reloading for 2 minutes. Congrats. The epitome of balance has been found, all hail his unlimited wisdom!

[misty wing]

I don't understand the hate for high alpha/high clip damage in this game lmao

and people thinking even 4k dpm is too high

[hollow belfry]

In this case it's not even hate for a high alpha or burst. It's just the already debatably useful reserve shell but pushed to unreasonable extremes

[misty wing]

and it still offers a unique way to play the game

[hollow belfry]

The average WoTb battle is simply too short for it to be relevant and allow even slightly consistent performance. Just like over drawn-out battles that 5k dpm will be equally unbalanced, simply in the opposite direction.

Unique =/= good and healthy

[misty wing]

the reserve shell is bad on the minotauro because you're not rewarded very much for not using it

I don't think a "healthy" game is fun tbh. Makes it more competitive for sure, but this game isn't designed with esports in mind

something that a lot of people don't understand is that it isn't good for a game to be perfectly balanced. Going from the anxiety of facing an overpowered tank in one game, to the sadistic pleasure of bullying an underpowered one in the next, is what makes it fun

[hollow belfry]

I wish you to get a Carro in the snow globe so that you’ll understand how it feels to wait 30 seconds before being able to fire and maybe think twice about a full clip taking four times longer than that to reload

[misty wing]

didn't stop the WT E100 with its minute long reload from being spammed when it was in wot PC

[hollow belfry]

Still twice as long as the WT and you forgot that PC battles are much longer and slower-paced

[solid gate]

it's a minute long lol, not two, and it doesn't have 5000 dpm

[misty wing]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, those were just random numbers I threw out so you can get the idea. They can be shortened if need be

[solid gate]

it will still have 5000 dpm and the potential to clip anything at its tier, worse than the wt e100 ever dreamed of

[misty wing]

the 5000 dpm is also a random number that can be changed lmao

[hollow belfry]

Either dying because you are not able to make any contribution towards the victory in the first 2 minutes and your team vanished or being able to clip anything at the tier sounds like the epitome of unbalance and will inherently be extremely frustrating for either the giving or receiving end

[solid gate]

it is not broken per se but it is not balanced

[misty wing]

and that's fine, it doesn't have to be

[solid gate]

that's not the point

tanks like the fv215b 183 are unbalanced but nobody would consider them broken. your example is a far more extreme example of this

[hollow belfry]

You sound ready for employment with WG

[misty wing]

and plenty of people like the "extremely frustrating for either the giving or receiving end" playstyle, evidenced by the popularity of mad games/uprising/big boss where ttk is massively reduced

[solid gate]

it is an equal playing field in such games since everybody is a wildcard of sort. your example is not

[misty wing]

I do think the game should be headed that direction though, with every tank having a greater disparity in characteristics

[solid gate]

please return to war thunder

[misty wing]

never played that game and never will, no thank you

[hollow belfry]

The Minotauro pushing it all on the armor being all but impenetrable to sub-330mm pen guns but with an awful gun and bad mobility has a great disparity in characteristics. Yet it’s such an entertaining tank to play and play against /s

We truly should keep heading that direction

[misty wing]

I like playing against it, don't have it myself to comment on the other half though

indeed we should.

well not really, minotauro should've been made like it was on PC

with the long intra clip autoloader

[solid gate]

just because you like it doesn't mean everybody has to cater to your wants

[hollow belfry]

I’m not sure if the underlying issue here is game balance or psychiatry

[misty wing]

I would be in #tank-balance-discussion if it was about the former

[shy nebula]

Day-6 of waiting at wargaming hq until they release bt-42

[storm bobcat]

CEO of Wargaming would allow this guy to inherit the position when he dies

[solid gate]

Finnish line?

[storm bobcat]

Bet it's gonna be a premium

[safe cedar]

WG has completely destroyed 50b, now its just a big, clumsy, paper tank with horrible camo, and it doesnt even have the gun anymore to make up for it.

[vestal belfry]

should i go for 113 first or nah
im grinding 2 hts (is7 and 113)
im currently on the is-2 (china)
and already researched the is8 (not bought yet)

[misty wing]

113 line is horrible

[solid gate]

Ur

[hollow belfry]

The IS-2 is the bottom of the line. I found the 110 to be a fine tank and the 111 1-4, while not anything special on paper, was simply a comfortable and pleasant drive. The 113 is in a really good state as of now, very versatile tank and I warmly recommend it. @vestal belfry

The IS-8 got a nice buff not long ago and I'd definitively keep in the garage (decently solid turret and good mobility with a very nice gun).

[vestal belfry]

but muh wz113 dpm

[misty wing]

I would buy the IS-8

[hollow belfry]

Get the 113

[brazen sierra]

Is the is7 worth it?

[solid gate]

Is 7 worth 7?

[late thistle]

ye

[brazen sierra]

Ok

In in is3 already should i get 55k xp gun?

[late thistle]

no idea, last time i played is3 was 6 years ago

[quiet rune]

Guys i got 54k gold and whixh tanks to buy from auction? Only tier X though
-vk90p,amxm4,t22 med,concept1b,chieftain

[late thistle]

whichever you think you'll enjoy playing the most, watch some youtube vids etc. they all have different play styles

[quiet rune]

Ye i really bend towards the T22 med and vk90p and rest gold i will save

The AMX also is really tempting and also my playstyle

[late thistle]

I'm eyeing the amx as well, I own all the rest

[quiet rune]

Wow nice

Last year i got thw super conq,badger,wz115A,T95E6,OBJ260

[thorny smelt]

I got lucky last year that I got the AMX M4 54 from the very first lockbox. I'd say it has good armor for a French heavy tank.

[late thistle]

the sconq is my most played tier x prem tho, I just like how versatile it is

[quiet rune]

Ye same the Super Conq is versatile in every way

[thorny smelt]

Super Conqueror is a collector's vehicle though....

[late thistle]

yea when i say prem i mean non tech tree/free etc.

[quiet rune]

Rip the T22med dream i will catch the vk90p and the AMX

Or if the T22 apears first than the vk then the T22 is mine :)

THX ALOT GUYS for the help

[late thistle]

I want the E6 as well but don't think it will appear

[quiet rune]

E6 is my babe it's so good play it like a med instead of heavy compromised on armour bit as a med it shreds it is a walking dpm machine

[late thistle]

it's good indeed, as for the t22 it's fun but the front is easy to pen...

[quiet rune]

Even the WZ-111-5A is a great tank an even better IS7 better pen,gun etc

[late thistle]

5A I own and like it, play it like a heavium usually hunting meds

[quiet rune]

Yes exactly

I have a bad habit like getting every legendary camo with the 50%offer for any tier i rhink most mu gold went into this💀💀

[late thistle]

Also I hope WG will increase the credit coefficient of the T-22, it's the same as tech tree tanks, should be raised to around 140% like other collectors

[thorny smelt]

I just want the Object 752 and/or 268 v4

[quiet rune]

The 268/4 also will ne great the tank is just too good

[late thistle]

I usually get the legendary camos as well, my tanks feel "incomplete" without them 🙂

[quiet rune]

@late thistle same that's how i feel mate

[late thistle]

I think WG will focus more on cosmetics and camos in the future now that we have a dedicated tab in the store

[quiet rune]

Ye i just need 9 more legendary camo for the lower tiers then am good

[late thistle]

268v4 I want too, good to troll around with somewhat ez games

[quiet rune]

See y'all later mates :]

[late thistle]

See ya

[odd cove]

hm

[late thistle]

Anyone try the new Löwe?

[gloomy shell]

did the auctions only works with gold or silver and free xp too ?

[odd cove]

gold, i think

@late thistle not yet, looks nice though

[gloomy shell]

no but i want to

[odd cove]

ykw, i’ll go a battle in it

[late thistle]

try to bounce stuff 🙂

[distant nymph]

Anything new in the IS-3’s armor because of PBR?

[solid gate]

it is shinier

[odd cove]

i did, lost tho

[late thistle]

did you like it overall? notice more armor or?

[odd cove]

ig so, got recked by an ru on the lower plate

[solid gate]

Hello I need to ask a question should I buy kv4 Or grind and earn 3 million credit for amx 50 b

[odd cove]

3mil is semieasy

[late thistle]

depends but bear in mind tier x equipment is expensive, usually need around 10M for the tank + equipment etc.

[solid gate]

Which teir is best for earning credit?

[late thistle]

tier 8 premiums

[solid gate]

Oh but i don't have premium tank I have teir 5 premium only

[late thistle]

are you a new player?

[solid gate]

Wait I provide screenshot

[late thistle]

Ok so you are still a newish player

[solid gate]

Yes

[late thistle]

I would only recommend buying a tier x when you have more than 10M credits

you will probably bleed credits while playing tier x, so at least 12M

[solid gate]

I have fv215b 103 but win rate is 35%

[odd cove]

the what

[late thistle]

eh it's hard to get a good win rate with the 183, it's not an optimal tank, it's meant to be played for fun & memes

[odd cove]

me with 59%

[hollow belfry]

I'm not sure how much fun one can have with 35% wr even in a 183

[solid gate]

My win rate goes from 50%to 47%thanks to fv215b103

[hollow belfry]

Play more enjoyable tanks and forget about your 183 then🤷‍♂️

[solid gate]

Please suggest which type of tank to use

[late thistle]

@solid gate still too early to tell, you should keep grinding and experimenting different tech trees, usually up to tier 8. I don't recommend tier x for now

[hollow belfry]

^

[solid gate]

Ok

[odd cove]

unless you’re an experienced player

[hollow belfry]

He isn't

[misty wing]

You must be doing something tragically wrong to be under 40% in a tank while genuinely trying and not trolling/throwing

[misty wing]

The usual reason is either yoloing or playing too passive/scared from what I see

Gotta find that perfect in between

[dapper violet]

jpanther ii is hard

[solid gate]

@misty wing can you teach me how to play fv215b 103
@dapper violet correct

[misty wing]

No because I also suck in it

47% down from 65%+ in my better tier 10s

[solid gate]

What is your win rate?

[misty wing]

Career winrate doesn't matter but mine is currently just over 55%

62% 30 day

[odd cove]

i might but you didn’t ask me

[solid gate]

@odd cove can you teach me how to play fv215b 103?

But you are na server I am Asia server

[misty wing]

Fire hesh and play very opportunistically

Is the general idea

[solid gate]

Did you know if I hesh i will get bankrupt

[misty wing]

Then don't play the tank (or tier 10 in general) because it bleeds credits like mad

[solid gate]

The first main problem is which category of tank I am good in I don't know 😂example:- light, medium, heavy etc

[odd cove]

yeah the 183 eats credits

[misty wing]

You're not a masochist until you play the Object 704 with the stock gun for fun

[hollow belfry]

1300 damage HESH shots are literally the only reason to grind that line for the 183 and play that tank. If you can’t afford these shells then it was a poor idea from the start of the line

[violet timber]

ST-I stock?

[misty wing]

Done that too, complete with 50% crew, no consumables, and no pramo. Gave up after 3 games

[hollow belfry]

💀

[odd cove]

you do know rng doesn’t always side with you

[misty wing]

Since when did rng dictate the cost of the shells

[odd cove]

talking about damage, not shell cost

[misty wing]

Well 1300 is the average, I see no problem with what he said there

[hollow belfry]

E75 with the KwK 43?

I’ll never forget the day I faced a platoon of these in battle even if it was years ago

[dapper violet]

St Emil stock 💀

[misty wing]

Which one is that, the 88mm? Or the short 105 perhaps?

[hollow belfry]

88mm

[misty wing]

Lmao that's sad

Just sent a message that crashed my discord and I don't know why 🤔

Yeah something about the stock 704 won't let me send the message kek

[thorn swift]

Всем привет!

[misty wing]

Privet, we only speak English here

[hollow belfry]

I did see one or two of these in battle too

[misty wing]

I've never seen it apart from when I played it myself lmao

[thorn swift]

Жалко я не понимаю,а Русскоязычный канал есть?

[misty wing]

With cali the heat is certainly usable, but that doesn't take away from the stupidity of it

[hybrid radish]

Wz 122 2 vs t 34 3 vs wait the christmas

[misty wing]

Idk what the wz 122 2 is tbh

[hollow belfry]

Wait for the auction

[hybrid radish]

Who know which tanks will come to market in christmas?

[dapper violet]

Rip

[hollow belfry]

Pinned in #general-blitz-discussion for the first batch

[hybrid radish]

Thx :)

[solid gate]

@solid gate what is masochist?

[dapper violet]

Someone who hurt self

[solid gate]

Ok

[misty wing]

I feel like M103 stock might be an overlooked one

Never played it but it seems painful

[hollow belfry]

Full stock M103 has decent pen but low alpha and 1600 dpm so yeah I guess

[misty wing]

It has the T29's 198mm standard lol

[hollow belfry]

*decent in comparison to a stock ST-I

But to be fair there’s quite a bunch of awful stock T9s

[tropic belfry]

its stupid that you have to grind stuff that isnt on your way to the tier 10 . isnt the tier 10 at the engine but you have to grind like 4 things at the stock gun ? (sry writing was stupid i meant the 103)

[misty wing]

To the tier 4, what?

[tropic belfry]

ah only 3 Things. grind the gun so that you can get the good turret so you can get the good gun xd

[misty wing]

Or just free xp the E5 so you can get the gun for free

[tropic belfry]

nah xd idk why but i never got into the american tech tree no tank really speaks to me. tds are slow,med to Big,not a fan of autoloaders. no opinion on the other heavy and go away with the sheridan

[fleet berry]

Eta-10#0124 has been warned.

[wise coral]

M

[shy nebula]

They'll definitely make it a tierIV Premium

[strange thicket]

huh what did they do with pbr

[safe cedar]

Somehow managed to make a paper tank even more paper.

[strange thicket]

what areas exactly
did they nerf the front plate or something @safe cedar ?

[tropic belfry]

the turret Just cant troll bounce anymore i think

[strange thicket]

huh, i don't remember the turret ever being a troll bounce(before wg dumbly buffed it in the whole tier 10 rebalance).
iirc, that is how the turret had always been the troll turret was only a thing since 9.X something

[tropic belfry]

ah i dont know what he wants he is just always talking about the Foch,30b and now 50b he thinks there is some bigger plot as to why they dont buff his favorite nation 😬 . as seen in the channel „tank balance discussion"

[safe cedar]

AMX m4/50 was actually first years ago. Foch is ok, it's more so just annoying and inflexible than it is a bad tank. 50b just got dealt a horrible card of being insanely team dependent for no reason.

[safe cedar]

The turret hasn't always been that troll in 8.# it was Buffed to 150mm. However WG has combined traits for the 50b that don't work well together and thus result in a tank that simply doesn't suit blitz.

[misty wing]

30b and m4 54 both should've been tech trees

[lunar holly]

Hello, how are you all? One question, which tank do you recommend I go for the maus or the Tepy of the Japanese line?

[dapper violet]

Maus line and stop at the Vk 100

[lunar holly]

Vk100? Imagen

[strange thicket]

yeah

[misty wing]

Japanese heavies easily

[dapper violet]

Then do the entire Japanese heavy line - the vk 100 is quite fun, but the Japanese heavy tier 8 is beyond broken

[lunar holly]

I'm already with the Mitsubishi

[dapper violet]

How far are you down the maus line

[lunar holly]

I am currently with vk 30.01 level 6 I have a photo that is on the screen photo @dapper violet

[dapper violet]

Well then just reach the tier 8s and see which you like more

[lunar holly]

Ready thank you very much

[safe cedar]

Then they both would have been horrible.

[wise moth]

The turret has always been obnoxious because there’s random autobounce angles on it, and the gun mantlet when pointed downwards is also an autobounce

[misty wing]

What if the AMX 30b was given the TCB turret and 127mm gun

[safe cedar]

If I'm not wrong the TCB turret is roughly the size of the AMX 30s hull. It would be hideous at best.

[strange thicket]

i remember that the turret was buffed in 9.X or 8.X though which was the starting point for the whole "troll" turret thingy
i am not talking about the inherent trolly angles because of the design

[safe cedar]

You sure you mean AMX 30b? Technically the TCB was only supposed to be mounted on the AMX 50b hull.

[misty wing]

yes I was memeing lmfao

what about just the 127mm gun in the standard turret then

so, uh

I clicked on the "TCA 120" turret wondering what it was
and now I really wish I didn't

[safe cedar]

Yeah.... we don't like talking about that.
"Mon dieu Pierre, ton chein a vomi sur les plans" - the first witness of TCA 120 turret.

[misty wing]

I was expecting something like the AMX M4 45 turret 😭

[tropic belfry]

what is your favorite „tank" nation and why is it italian. . question ? ^ 🅱️

[misty wing]

god no I hate italian tanks

it's probably american or german

[tropic belfry]

its was just a joke xd because i know mission winnow from formula one so mission winnow= Ferrari = italian

[olive prawn]

Twice, both time with controcarro mk 2 in 3 days….. VERY NICE WG!

[balmy compass]

that happens when your connection to the server lags

[tropic belfry]

i think thats a bigger problem in the game. droodles i think hat the same Problem today playing the british med easy shots seem to miss because the green point seems to lag some seconds behind

[olive prawn]

Not acceptable especially since, because of the shot i missed in the second image, i lost a game

[odd cove]

he felt sad for you

[strange thicket]

progetto ? :(

[misty wing]

which one

[strange thicket]

^ actually only had 65 in mind but i like both

[plucky summit]

Carro 45t? 😳

[solid gate]

Eyrjyemshme7keyke6jyenegnge XD

[misty wing]

both progettos are ugly

[balmy compass]

so apparently this is a weakspot now

I got nailed right there instead of my lower plate by a E 75 🙄

[plucky summit]

That's funny