vehicles-discussion

[dapper violet]

that would be more like a tier iv superheavy

[outer plume]

I mean this one

[plucky summit]

Def not a light

[outer plume]

As soon as I looked at it I thought It was a light one

[plucky summit]

It very well isn’t

[outer plume]

Maybe a destroyer one

[ruby halo]

EU server full lag, thanks for this server...this run on old office notebook????

[plucky summit]

It’s because so many players are on to do the Rutter event

[ruby halo]

and?

[outer plume]

Did you choose EU server and you are in America?

[plucky summit]

And it’s stressing the servers, therefore the servers are lagging a bit 🤨

[ruby halo]

not my problem...this is unplayable

[plucky summit]

Just letting you know 🤷‍♂️
The RU mass migration doesn’t help, either

[ruby halo]

yes...RU players destroy Eu server

[plucky summit]

It’s not really their fault

[ruby halo]

ingame and on hardware side too

[plucky summit]

I suggest taking a break

[ruby halo]

omg...this is WG solution?

[plucky summit]

I’d guess it would help take your mind off anger and on whatever else you do

[ruby halo]

Before RU migration, why not upgrade server park?
It's not anger, its nausea

WG always can make new bundles, but server upgrades never...

[plucky summit]

Well, it’s easy to make bundles 🤷‍♂️

I think WG may work on this issue if it persists or gets worse, as long as it’s no problem on your side of the wire

[ruby halo]

My internet and PC better than WG server lol...

[plucky summit]

Uh huh 🙄

[royal charm]

Any cool tanks to look forward in shop? Im thinking on a medium like the Defender Mk 1

[plucky summit]

Maybe focus on the RAAC from the streams

Löwe is getting buffed a lot in 9.5, maybe you could pick that up when it comes out alone

[violet timber]

It obviously is your problem if you’re complaining about it 😂

[royal charm]

I have RAAC, Progetto, FCM and the Black Bulldog from last 2 Autumn tourneys actually...

[plucky summit]

Nice

[royal charm]

Anyone knows when were Defenders last sold?

[plucky summit]

🤷‍♂️

[ruby halo]

handicapped

[royal charm]

How is the WZ given in lockboxes?

[plucky summit]

Through certificates, like RAAC

[royal charm]

Sorry I mean how good is it and what tanks is it similar to

[plucky summit]

It’s basically a heavy tank with decent top speeds, but a standard 400 alpha, and it’s uh, unique in that way

[royal charm]

Isnt it a med??

[plucky summit]

Strong upper plate that can break to good shells, and a T-54-like turret

I’m guessing you play it like a heavy to fight mediums with. It doesn’t feel that much like a medium, though

It really is made to tussle with meds, the upper plate isn’t viable vs heavies

[rough citrus]

Guys should I get lot battles to get su 152 I have obj 704 already yes or no?

[plucky summit]

ISU isn’t that bad, you need the BL-10 too

[graceful wedge]

would be cooler if t62a had 8 degrees of gun depression, this 7 can't keep up with the current standard

[lyric oriole]

The main issue for T-62 is that it's too slow more than anything

7° is fine, the problem is that it doesn't get to the positions you want in time

[violet timber]

T-62 definitely doesn’t have a mobility issue

[tulip knot]

Agreed. It even got a buff on mobility. Overall I think it’s a fine and balanced tank

[bleak cedar]

Charioteer line any good?

I saw alot of them... As frags while I was playing the Emil 1 line

[silent knoll]

Used to be OP. Now not so much

Had 220mm HESH pen

[copper swan]

now it's about 188mm

[gloomy pawn]

does kanonenjagdpanzer have legendary camo?

[subtle furnace]

I don'thave it but never seen one

[misty wing]

no it doesn't

[copper swan]

is skoda t56 worth buying for 8500 gold when I already have object 252u?
please explain your answer

[odd cove]

252u does the job

[lilac mica]

I don’t have Skoda but I know it’s strong
As a 252u player, 252u does the job. You could get 53TP if you haven’t got it yet, it’s super strong

[copper swan]

ok thanks

[sleek charm]

Ok so Pershing is Good? bc i want to research M48 Patton

[misty wing]

yes

[sleek charm]

ok

[kind flicker]

pershing is trash fyi

[misty wing]

pershing is objectively one of the best tier 8 meds

[kind flicker]

no, trash dpm, no armour and bad mobility

and u cant play hulldown because paper turret

[misty wing]

ah yes, the "trash DPM"

[half coral]

whyd blitzstars take 122mm T-44, lmao

[plucky summit]

They take top guns

[misty wing]

Better turret than the french, italians, probably the germans, and the T-44 for sure

[half coral]

i mean it has two top guns, iirc

[misty wing]

whoops, T-44 with the 100mm has 2219 dpm anyway

[half coral]

currently finished suffering through T-44 full stock grind, currently on the 54 ltwt's gun, its not too bad of a tank

[kind flicker]

yummy butter

[half coral]

its troll

[misty wing]

1. iirc armor inspector doesn't properly show the pershing's turret armor
2. doesn't change my point

[kind flicker]

not at all, pershing and m46 are terrible tanks

[half coral]

just like how the comet may have turret weakspots, doesnt stop it from being an underated beast

[plucky summit]

That's PC, but okay

[half coral]

M46 isnt great, i agree, but the Persh isnt that bad, anyway the end goal gets you a nice solid medium

[valid gale]

Thing is awful wym

[misty wing]

M46 is honestly great for undisciplined players. I'm normally a hyper aggressive, borderline yolo player but I managed to be 73% iirc in that tank when I was done with the grind, because it forced me to think and was too slow for me to full send it

[half coral]

noooo the comet is awesome >:c

[kind flicker]

its trash and the pershing is also trash

[half coral]

its great, you cant ask for more of a dpm hulldown medium

[misty wing]

sounds like you're either living in the past or have skill issue, if not both

[kind flicker]

both but neither at all

[half coral]

maybe someones just salty they cant play it right? just watch a few vids and perfect it, youll be set

[kind flicker]

ive played 2k battles in ther pershing, ik what im talking about

[half coral]

it takes quite a bit to master but its 100% worth it c:

[misty wing]

well you're just flat out wrong about the DPM, it's the best of any tier 8 medium. And turret is at worst top 25% in its class

[half coral]

well if you spent 2k battles in the pershing, there should be a reason shouldn't there

[plucky summit]

👀 Outplayed

[misty wing]

Like what even has a better turret than the Pershing lmao
Centurion RAAC, Defender, and the Chinese rounds ones?

[ornate coral]

Halleluja~ Halleluuu-jaaAAA

[plucky summit]

Relatable

[stone robin]

How would you guys rate the objective 907?

[plucky summit]

Object 907 has no real purpose tbh

[ornate coral]

I woke up at 6 am today and for some reason thought about watching blitzcup
Got 2 keys but it was enough
It was a sign FROM GOD

Tho I don't believe in him

[stone robin]

It's my first tier 10

[valid gale]

You bought a tier 10 instead of getting it naturally

[stone robin]

I'm trying to get a 3k badge from it

Yeah. But I'm working on the American Yoh line. I'm at Tier 7 for it.

[misty wing]

If your max tier tech tree is 7 then you're far from ready for tier 10

[tepid stump]

The line for the most part is decent ig

I'm personally enjoying the M-5 Yoh

[graceful wedge]

i unlocked only 2 tier 10 tanks that are even noob friendly and i don't think im that good, last match i only made 5k damage and i could do better

[shy frost]

Could you guys help me a bit..
I got some gold, thought about recovering a tier10 tank
IYO which one is best to recover: badger, 268 v4, vk 90, t95e6, obj 260 or wz 111 5a?
Thanks for opinions 😉

@plucky summit i have obj. 907 and I'm constantly doing well in it, fast and nimble tank, 7 degrees of gun depression helps work ridgelines, armor is not the best in med tanks but can bounce a shell here and there, i think I'm averaging 2.3 in it..
So i wouldn't agree that its useless tank, you even get the aim time consumable which is cheat haha

[plucky summit]

It has no purpose, I never said it was useless

You could call it an all-rounder between the russian meds but it's still just... eh

[shy frost]

Fair, t62a would still be near versatile in comparison to 907, in most cases, with even a bit more armor on turret, but the top speed and p/w on 907 is impressive, i found myself playing quite aggressive in it knowing i have the mobility to outrun enemy

@shy frost Could anyone give their opinion on my question about tank restorations, i would love to hear some of your experiences, I'm not so much a heavy player or td player hhahah

[copper swan]

badger

[vestal belfry]

am i just having skill issue or soviet heavies got a really bad accuracy

i mean i like its gun it hits hard but its shells keep going randomly i bet its made only for close combat or me have skill issue

[plucky summit]

They do

[stone robin]

I think the 907 is decent. I like to bumper cars in it.

[vestal belfry]

do what?

[shy frost]

Badger it is then

[plucky summit]

Have really bad accuracy

[shy frost]

Soviet guns require specific playstyle, you pray to rngod and shoot without aiming hahah
But boy when u hit..

[vestal belfry]

so basically i have to get close so i can hit em properly?

[plucky summit]

Yup, or aim patiently

[solid gate]

all soviet heavies with their largest guns except the tier 9+ ones have garbage accuracy
once you reach the tier 9 barrier, it becomes marginally better

[light dove]

Magik, as well shooting in soviet barrel is useless cuz it's unbeatable lol

[rigid thunder]

tbh you could call the 907 more of a 140 sidegrade than anything else, it serves its purpose as a 140 that's more proficient at holding a hull down position, but is still able to move around the map quickly. In exchange for this, it loses brawling ability (less dpm, worse hull by a big margin)

[plucky summit]

🤷‍♂️

[solid gate]

140 never had a good hull to begin with and dpm isn't that much of an issue if you play it correctly, it's no tvp level of dpm

[rigid thunder]

it never had one yes, but the 907 is on a different level of bad. DPM is also still good at like 3300 with rammer, never said it was a huge issue, more of a difference

[solid gate]

look it's a tier 10 medium they all have terrible hull armor

[rigid thunder]

they don't have 40mm sides

[solid gate]

the 140 has 37mm sides

[rigid thunder]

it has like 3 different armour thicknesses on the side, and its 57 -> 80 -> 20

the 20mm part is that sloped thingy at the bottom

[high jackal]

I am wondering, if i get the challange WT. is there any reason at all to do the grille tech tree line?

[odd cove]

grille is the best heavy tank

[high jackal]

easy 4k dmg blocked avg

[odd cove]

indeed

[high jackal]

the ritter seems to be a pure annoyance when sitting behind a bush. very good dpm and accuracy while it could be penetrated by throwing a rock at it

[odd cove]

it’s a better 128mm waffle

[high jackal]

its just premium*

[odd cove]

collector*

[high jackal]

i mean quality not title :p

[odd cove]

sure xd

should platoon sometime @high jackal

[high jackal]

Sure if u are on EU

[odd cove]

i am 👀

[high jackal]

We can play some later today. Gotta do my dailies. Hopefully farm some bia or cc's

[odd cove]

Affirmative!

[high jackal]

btw when did the challange start? some ppl just seems to be so way ahead of me

[odd cove]

a week ago 11/21

[high jackal]

i suppose im just slow then. i will probably just gold it after 700 anyway

[odd cove]

hm

[high jackal]

getting free gold from gold boosters so i do not have to pay anything

[odd cove]

nice

[high jackal]

do we know if there will be more challanges than just the WT? when they gave the notification for the WT there was 3 tanks in the picture

[odd cove]

idk, the other events are mostly paid

[subtle yoke]

Say though, Shouldn't the FV 183 get a longer reload?

And could the Jg.Pz.E100 get a little mor armor?

[violet timber]

No and no

[odd cove]

19-20s isn’t long enough? if anything you should be wanting a mino shell reload buff

[solid gate]

fv183 needs 15s reload ngl

[violet timber]

No

[odd cove]

idk what the loader in that tank does in 19s. probably drinks a jug of tea

[balmy compass]

Jageroo already reloads really fast but this would be faster

[sleek apex]

Does the Australian tanks ingame have its own national camouflages or the same as British tanks?

[spice raptor]

is the offer for 5k gold for fcm 50t the vickers 45 and lozas sherman good

[desert karma]

where is the obj 244

[weary tiger]

If it had that reload it would have 3720 dpm with AP….

[tepid stump]

and 5.2k with HE/HESH 💀

[polar pagoda]

Nah I think you mean BESH LMAOOOOOOO

[boreal marlin]

I Got chinese wz-120-1g TD should i sell it or keep it

[strange thicket]

keep it, very good TD

[civic lance]

One of the best t8 premium

[boreal marlin]

What about obj 970 should i sell it to get back KPZ or t22 medium

KPZ 50t to be correct

[solid gate]

I mean it's all your choice, if you don't like one you can just sell to get the other as long as you didn't spend the gold

[valid gale]

You sold the t22 and kpz 50T

[misty wing]

I did too

[shy frost]

How tf u even got thoosee???

[shy frost]

I haven't seen vickers in that bundle, isn't it fcm, one of german super heavies (t8) and lozas sherman?
It ain't bad offer, for 5K u get three premiums..
If u like any of those tanks why not

[violet timber]

Debatable

[humble vortex]

No armor, crazy dpm. Basically a better cheften Mk 6

[violet timber]

Not sure that’s the right comparison

[misty wing]

?

[humble vortex]

Good point, the cheften has worse armor compared to the leo

[violet timber]

Not even close, chief has much better armor

[humble vortex]

I digress

You'll only ever get a bounce when your hatch is broken instead of penned. So abt 1 bounce a game

[violet timber]

In the Leo 1 you’ll only ever get a bounce when rng decrees it

[safe cedar]

No

[boreal marlin]

Why?

[lyric copper]

trash when put in a team? yes

trash in a 1v1? no

[safe cedar]

I hope WG adds this tank ingame.

[plucky summit]

You basically have the same thing in tier 10

[violet timber]

Where Lorraine 50t

[misty wing]

what even is that, M4 51?

[tulip knot]

Nah the 360 smacks

[safe cedar]

Well yeah, but instead of derpy French IS-7 I'm thinking more like French cheiftan or Object 260.

[plucky summit]

SO bad

[safe cedar]

Not Necessarily, Strong turret, 50kph top speed, good dpm, and decent accuracy. I think it could be really good and fun.

[plucky summit]

Just use 50TPp or IS-8

[spare nest]

Which one should I do the LTTB or LTG

[lyric oriole]

LTG for stealth, LTTB for aggression

[violet timber]

LTTB is generally better

[spare nest]

Ok thanks

[misty wing]

What are the two most similar looking tanks in the game, aside from obvious reskins like T34 (1776)

Oh wait it's just T30 and T34 lmao
Throw that out too

[violet timber]

T29 and T34

[misty wing]

🗿

how about only tanks that don't share the same chassis/are different versions of the same project

maybe T110E5 and T54E2

Hetzer and Jagdpanther

[violet timber]

Probably soviets meds

Or the M48 and M60

[sharp tartan]

is the sheridan any good?

[tight storm]

Sheridan is Great . I have 2 Mastery on him @sharp tartan

[sharp tartan]

Ok good to know im grinding for it

[sharp tartan]

any tips for light tanks all i have rn is the chaffee

[tight storm]

When you have sheridan ,t92ei or t49 you should shot and hide . Bulldog is just normal light tank

[fast compass]

Chaffee isn't the fastest. The general idea for most lights is to get to a place on the map to spot, then return back to the rest of your team. Conserve hit points and then kill isolated tanks in the end game. Knowing what to do comes from experience and can't really be put in words. Light tanks are quite possibly the hardest tank type to play well in. Watch good players play light tanks like hisroyalfatness, learn how they read lineups and respond to battle situations. And try practicing that on your own.

[misty wing]

I can't tell whether this is meant to suggest that the Caernarvon is bad or good

[plucky summit]

The fact they put BP there makes me realize how incorrect it is

[misty wing]

I'm honestly kinda surprised they put the T32 and Caern in different categories

usually people either know they're both strong tanks, or they're ignorant of the buffs made to them in the last 2 years or so and think they're both garbage

[shell plover]

What’s meta on the type 71 these days? Accelerator or gun depression module?

[lyric oriole]

Type t-34 and T-34

[misty wing]

yeah I was gonna mention crossing chinese and russians lmao

[copper swan]

chi ha and chi ha

[quartz wind]

This is a British tank we're talking about here

Not a whole lot of British tanks are typically good

[glossy stratus]

guys, I just won this here, could someone give me some tips later?

[plucky summit]

Hulldown as much as you can, but don’t get overconfident. Be the thorn in the enemy team’s side with your DPM and accurate gun

[glossy stratus]

Thanks bro

[lilac mica]

Just a reminder that your back can be HE’ED

[glossy stratus]

Oh, ok

[plucky summit]

Sides, too, if you see big enough guns

[lilac mica]

Yeah, but in overall it’s a good tank, I got it as well from the mystery crates

[plucky summit]

I play it like Super Conqueror but more evasively 😋

[glossy stratus]

Uhm

[plucky summit]

I’m assuming you don’t have it, but I’m just demonstrating how I feel when I play it

Move around when you hulldown to take aims off of your cupola, for at least a moment. It can save you some HP

[misty wing]

Chieftain also has less damage loss on prammo than other 400 alpha tanks, not sure how useful it is but I never see anyone mention it

[plucky summit]

And, of course, it has some nice HESH

[solid wolf]

that tank is hard and heavium which is bad and not to be relied at the frontlines, dont frontline that tank it has no armor only heavy tank hp @glossy stratus

[balmy compass]

Heavium is bad?

Refer to the E6

[solid wolf]

bad at soaking and bouncing its not a heavy its a heavium a medium just larger ugh.. hate heaviums

[balmy compass]

Yeah, heavy with big HP but more mobility

[plucky summit]

It’s a medium with low, but still great DPM as well as the HP to brawl with

[balmy compass]

Plus usually gets bigger gun with more alpha

[solid wolf]

but not reliant armor

[junior wing]

Is the 121B any good?

[plucky summit]

That’s what you trade for mobility and a great gun

Personally I like the more protected Super Conqueror more, but I will never doubt the lethality of the Chieftain Mk. 6

[solid wolf]

yea but i domt like heavium theyre mediums not heavies which means annoying and difficult to play , i despise heaviums

[plucky summit]

Difficult to play, but that doesn’t mean they’re bad 😊

[misty wing]

I actually think heaviums are the lowest impact tank type after TDs

[plucky summit]

Say that when you’re a medium and they come rolling up your flank

Remember that Type 71 and IS-7 come across as heaviums, even if IS-7 seems to spec into being a heavy more

[misty wing]

depends on which one but most actually aren't all that threatening vs meds as long as it's not 1v1

also IS-7 and type aren't heavium imo

[plucky summit]

I guess mobility means nothing to your classification 🤔

[misty wing]

it's equally as much mobility as it is armor

[plucky summit]

Yes, but if they’re mobile enough, the extra armor just makes them armored heaviums…?

Oh man when T-62A and IS-7 had the same top speeds, not that long ago 😌

[misty wing]

well in a sense, the armor (or lack thereof) is more of an indicator than the mobility
a tank has to lack armor to be a heavium, otherwise it's just a fast heavy

[plucky summit]

They had both armor and mobility, and given that versatility of a heavium with the benefit of survivability, they were meta 🤷‍♂️

[misty wing]

not sure what being meta has to do with it

[plucky summit]

Nothing, I’m just saying since they were heaviums with more armor than they needed, they ran into the meta

[misty wing]

I wanna say the only heaviums at tier 10 are the Chieftain, Concept, Object 260, WZ-111 5A, and 113

maybe the 50b but clippers are kinda in their own territory

E5 is very borderline but it leans quite heavily into the heavy side imo with the low DPM, strong turret + upper plate and worse mobility than the rest of my list

and FV215b's top speed is too bad to qualify

[plucky summit]

Playstyle counts to me

[misty wing]

imagine if the VK72 actually weighed 72 tons and it became a heavium

I just did some calculations and it would have 16.7/15.3/11.5 effective power/weight if the engine power remains the same

[plucky summit]

When I spoke of IS-7, I did mean when it was more mobile, Type 71 is still in it for me

[misty wing]

was IS-7 nerfed besides the top speed

[plucky summit]

Not sure, but ik it had 50 before, and 62A did too, but now each of them shifted 5km/h

[misty wing]

found the French concept 1b

[solid gate]

Baguette

[alpine mason]

Is 7 on PC goes 60 km per hour

[alpine mason]

Imagine ramming light tanks with this

[copper swan]

now tap on which area for damage

[alpine mason]

Which tank

[copper swan]

tap anywhere on the is 7 in your picture

are you unsure how to use armour inspector

[alpine mason]

Here you go

[copper swan]

not bad ram damage from the first 2 pictures, but the third picture does not show any

[alpine mason]

TVP was about 310

[copper swan]

decent

now put the side of a SP 1 C and get a dracula to ram it
show damage done@alpine mason

[alpine mason]

last request of the day...ye ye

Wot pc doesn't have the draft however.... Apparently ram damage increases if the target tank goes faster

safe to assume it dose around 300 to the CDC more or less (hitting the hay stack)

[cyan oracle]

Which is better German tank destroyer or Russian tank destroyer?

[solid gate]

German I think

[empty helm]

Soviet TDs have high pen and German TDs have good armor

[plucky summit]

Half of German TDs have good armor, the other half has quite the opposite

[solid gate]

the only german td with good armor is like the jag e100 and jagd 8.8(kinda a stretch) but yes, good armor

[tepid stump]

What about Jadgpanther (1)?

[stone robin]

Anyone else feel like the tier 10 Yoh might be better than the obj 907

[plucky summit]

It is

[stuck zinc]

The t110E4 is good? I can buy it today

I'm talking about the blitz, I say it because apparently I was talking about the wot PC

[solid gate]

not really

[royal charm]

Any good tanks to look out in shop for? Except Shark, 252U , Chimera, Progetto

[rigid thunder]

like what just tier 8s?

[hollow belfry]

In a correct position the armor's actually quite solid

[plucky summit]

Yeah JPan is OP because of the armor

[royal charm]

Tier 7s and 8s

[solid gate]

What tho you think off semovente m43? I got engine, track, and stock gun. I prefer mobility vs biger pen. I pack with mediums so stock gun is decent unugh to deal T6 mediums and lights. My curent win rate is 55%.

[blissful spruce]

Hey guys how are you I am fine thanks you 😄 I have question, FCM 50T now off, how it's tank?

[plucky summit]

Bad

[blissful spruce]

why?

[royal charm]

I suggest u skip that one

[plucky summit]

It's just a medium tank with no real advantages

[blissful spruce]

hmm okay thanks guys

[royal charm]

Defender MK 1 worth it btw? Im thinking on that one if it hits the shop

[odd cove]

yes

[royal charm]

How much gold should I pay for it

[plucky summit]

Not more than 8k B)

[royal charm]

Noted

[odd cove]

7.5k - 8k

[plucky summit]

I'd prefer RAAC

[royal charm]

Chances are people who watch the stream are gonna get the RAAC anyway

[rigid thunder]

well for tier 8s, you have quite a few notable ones:

TDs: jgtiger 88, skorp/su130, wz1201gft

HTs: type 57, skoda t56, 1951, action x, t77, caliban (funne)

MTs: bourrasque probably, the cent mediums are obvious choices but I hate them so much

LTs: enriched T49

[plucky summit]

Well, do you have it?

[shy frost]

Hahahaha man's conparing meds with heavies; ok, we go 1v1, i take tier lower med and cod u till u die..

[plucky summit]

Imagine ever getting CoD'd to death

[royal charm]

@plucky summit Yes

@rigid thunder I have 88 and skorp, how does 120-1 compare

Any point in having T 56 if I already have 252U and 112-2? They are basically very similar from what I was told
Also I dont know anything about the Caliban, is that a new tank?

[violet timber]

Hahahaha imagine thinking 1v1s matter in a 7v7 game

[plucky summit]

Caliban is a meme tank that's bad

[royal charm]

Its a 1v13, are we even playing the same game

[olive turret]

Calilban is not bad

[violet timber]

More like a 1v7, but you get 6 meat shields

@olive turret Caliban is horrible

[plucky summit]

Caliban is only good if you love showing weak armor to it, otherwise it's bad

[royal charm]

What about the bourrasque, what kind of tank is that

[violet timber]

Basically a TD with insane mobility

[plucky summit]

Bourrasque is your typical autoloader, dump and hide, then dump again. The small profile and quick damage make it unique

[olive turret]

Must be playing it wrong then, hide load your clip aim 1000 dmg then go back into hiding

[shy frost]

Deadly two shell mag for its tier

[violet timber]

Caliban doesn’t have a clip

[rigid thunder]

it's a funny tank with 860 alpha
120-1G is a flexible TD with some armour and gun dep, gun is pretty derpy
if you already have those tanks the T56 might not be a great choice as well

[olive turret]

It’s got a 2 clip or you can load one shell and deal more dmg

[plucky summit]

Wrong, it's a single shot in Blitz

[violet timber]

No it doesn’t, it’s a single shot dude

[olive turret]

You sure?

[plucky summit]

We have another robot thinking about its reputation in PC

[violet timber]

No, I’m lying to you 🙄

[plucky summit]

Just get Emil I, ez

[olive turret]

I don’t play wot pc, I thought it had 2 shot and also a 1 shot potential gun.

[rigid thunder]

imo good, feels significantly better than the emil 1

[violet timber]

Good tank

[plucky summit]

It used to have a 2-shot autoreloader before release, but they single-shotted it now

[olive turret]

Thanks for the explanation

[plucky summit]

So anyways it's bad B)

[violet timber]

It wasn’t even good with the clip

[plucky summit]

T-2020 is uh, slightly above average

[royal charm]

Hmm. Is 252U still considered the tournament tank or has it been dethroned by Shark? I remember the 252U godhood status used to be strong 2 years ago

[rigid thunder]

8000

[plucky summit]

T-2020 is actually a replacement for 252U, optionally, but Shark is easily better, generally

[royal charm]

Does 252U do like double the damage? Why take Shark over it

[violet timber]

Tier 8 tournament meta is now Caliban, GSOR, and T49

[plucky summit]

Fr? xD

@royal charm shark can hulldown and doesn't have a massive lower plate

[royal charm]

What? You must be joking

[violet timber]

Nah, just did a meme tourney and actually won all 4 stages with that line up 😂

[plucky summit]

That's a hard mald from the enemies, then

[violet timber]

It’s mainly Shark, 53TP, and probably your favorite light if you want to spot. If you want, you can trade out the Shark for a T32 and have basically the same line up

[plucky summit]

I wanna see Keiler and Lowe surge

[royal charm]

Oh so the days of full 252U tourneys are gone

[violet timber]

Lowe may actually be viable with pbr, the problem is just how dominant Shark and T32 are in hulldown

[plucky summit]

The days have been gone once people realize that you don't have to shoot the red part of the enemy 🗿

It's so annoying, how people think 252U is OP because it now has something that other tanks have had for years

[royal charm]

I guess they dont know how to fight against angled tanks

[plucky summit]

Pubs already can't handle my angled Lowe
Now wait until their prammo stops working too 😈

[royal charm]

Im assuming the 252U driver is hiding that weak frontal soft spot.... Ive seen many just go in the open and expose it tho

[violet timber]

You can literally yolo in pubs and get away with it

[plucky summit]

252U can sidescrape, but the cupolas are so stretched across the turret, that they become an easy target for remotely tall enemies

[royal charm]

So the solution is to use 112-2 instead?

[violet timber]

53TP

[royal charm]

Thats also a "new" tank for me, Ive been absent from this game for a while

[violet timber]

Or if you really want some alpha, take out the Skoda

[royal charm]

How is the 53TP

[plucky summit]

Yeah 252U has been off actual meta for a long time

53TP is OP

[royal charm]

Hmm and its tech tree too

[plucky summit]

Yup, as well as T32 and Pershing

[wise moth]

Just run T32/M26 and vary the composition based on the map.

Everything else is irrelevant

[solid gate]

the meta is actually 7 59 pattons, i talked to droodles about it
this strat completely counters the meta as it is essentially a tier 10 at tier 8 and it will outflank every heavy tank because it is a medium

[plucky summit]

Mistake #1: Talking to Droodles about comp

[royal charm]

Who dat

[solid gate]

Mistake?? He's a phenomenal comp player and I GUARANTEE this strat will land you a top 1-2 spot in the tier 8 blitz cup coming soon.

[plucky summit]

I guarantee that he won’t make it there with that lineup 😎

[solid gate]

What do you propose, then?

[plucky summit]

I’m surprised that you didn’t just opt for 7 Indien Panzers smh

[solid gate]

What? The obvious pick is actually 7 T28 Prototypes.

[plucky summit]

Unacceptable, we all know that Prototypes are too OP and unfair for their tier

[violet timber]

I’m telling you, 3 calibans, 2 GSORs, and 2 T49s

[royal charm]

Welp almost got my 2nd RAAC

[solid gate]

Look. I propose a better strategy, 7 SP I Cs.

[plucky summit]

Ok SP I C is actually good. Just duplicate me 6 times and watch me steamroll

I guess you could run 7 Bourrasques 🙄

[balmy compass]

7 T28s 👍

[royal charm]

Run 7 Smashers

[violet timber]

Obj 263, the tier 8 TD

[limpid ether]

7 Calibans

[weary tiger]

People people people the obvious pick is 7 vk168s it has the most hp so it’s clearly the best

[violet timber]

7 AMX defenders, clip potential 😎

[balmy compass]

7 13 75s, all with clip booster

[copper swan]

someone mentioned SP 1 C?

[solid gate]

yeah look nobody plays tier 7 anymore this never happens

[plucky summit]

SP I C is good and you’ll never convince me otherwise 😤

[balmy compass]

me with my Kunze panzer 😔

[limpid ether]

Me with my T26E3 Eagle 7

[balmy compass]

and my Tiger I

[solid gate]

me with my ancient su-122-44

[balmy compass]

Soviet Jagdpanzer

[plucky summit]

👉👈

[balmy compass]

negative wn7

[plucky summit]

Clearly a tank issue

[violet timber]

Interesting

[plucky summit]

Fellow SP I C enjoyer

[violet timber]

It was a rather nice tank

[balmy compass]

I grinded it stock and had to play with the 0 gun dep turret

[plucky summit]

Kill tissue

[balmy compass]

yes, quite the kill tissue

[tepid stump]

kill tissue? where's my flamethrower

[plucky summit]

It’s a flameblower, let’s be real here.

[solid gate]

Flamer

[balmy compass]

flammable liquid shooter

[plucky summit]

Gas-ignition-based propellant

[limpid ether]

Flammenwerfer

[balmy compass]

looks like I'm not as much as a enjoyer as you guys

[plucky summit]

I only have good stats in it because my friend also played it and got thrown under the bus more often lol

[solid gate]

the fire go whoosh

[balmy compass]

do you guys think if more tier VII prem tanks were added more people would play tier VII?

[plucky summit]

I think if they balanced the ones we already have, then they would 🗿

[balmy compass]

there are some unbalanced tier VIII tanks and people still play there

[solid gate]

if they just balanced all the premiums this game would be better
wargaming can change anything in their game, they just don't want to due to community backlash
we need to understand that our overpowered premium tanks can be changed to better the health of the game, when you buy a triple a game you don't complain(or at least will come to realise that it was better for the game's health) when your favorite character or something that was OP gets nerfed, i don't really see how this is different

[plucky summit]

Well that’s mainly because many are tech tree tanks that everyone can access

[stuck zinc]

amazing

no one answered my question

[violet timber]

Amazing isn’t a question

[stuck zinc]

sure?

[violet timber]

Thats a question

[stuck zinc]

.

don't go smart

[violet timber]

Okay, I will go dumb and ignore your question

[plucky summit]

E100 > E4, end of story

[solid gate]

buy the e200 instead

[violet timber]

I personally enjoy the E152.7, but it’s not for everyone

[balmy compass]

I want the E-10

but tbh it might end up being a casemate SP I C or so

[stone robin]

Who agrees with the action x being broken?

[manic carbon]

Not really

[violet timber]

No Lmao, it’s average at best in this list

[manic carbon]

It's good but people often overrate it

[plucky summit]

ISU super strong 😂

[manic carbon]

Its low alpha means if you just utilise cover and trade smartly then its not much of a threat

[violet timber]

Who’s list is this?

[wise moth]

It’s good, but objectively worse than tech tree caern in pretty much every way

[hollow belfry]

KV-4

[stone robin]

Droodles

[wise moth]

Also, this is a super questionable list

[plucky summit]

Mistake #1: Droodles

[stone robin]

From 9mo ago

[hollow belfry]

👆

[stone robin]

The only Blitz ytbers I know are droodles and meadsy69

[stone robin]

What's the tech tree caern like what nation?

[wise moth]

UK

[violet timber]

Brit

[stone robin]

🍣

[violet timber]

Droodles opinions are questionable at best. Your first sign that something was wrong should’ve been that there was 1 category below average and 4 above it

[balmy compass]

ISU-130 is on the list, interesting

[stone robin]

I did wonder why it wasn't tiered alphabetically

[stuck zinc]

for what you answered better stay silent

[wise moth]

Because uwudles big nub

[violet timber]

Why should I stay silent? You gonna mute me?

[stuck zinc]

how painful

[violet timber]

I was just responding to you

[plucky summit]

Hey now we all are thrown in the same meat grinder that is MM, let's have our commonalities and stick to them

[balmy compass]

is the ISU-130 better then the ISU-152 with the D-25 122mm gun?

[violet timber]

I’d say yes personally

[stone robin]

What's the max dpm on a tank ATM? 4000?

[violet timber]

With AP, 4,274. With HE, 5,212

[stone robin]

I think my max dpm is 1500

[balmy compass]

the 130 has more pen then the BL-10? I'm guessing one of the 152s is the BL-10

[violet timber]

No, it’s the two 122mm. One has more pen, the other has better reload

[stone robin]

Do people use APCR at all?

[balmy compass]

oh ic

[violet timber]

Yes

[stone robin]

What does it do exactly thats different from regular AP?

[violet timber]

APCR tends to have more penetration, although it gets less normalization

[balmy compass]

some tanks have APCR as standard shell instead of AP

[violet timber]

They’re the weird ones

[balmy compass]

there is alot less now since 9.1 because almost all the tier X meds swapped APCR with AP

[stone robin]

I like APCR rounds but I feel like they do less damage, is it possible for APCR to penetrate red armor?

[balmy compass]

APCR usually is used for prammo, they get more pen but less damage

[stone robin]

What's prammo?

[balmy compass]

gold ammo
premium ammo

[stone robin]

But you can buy it with silver so why use gold?

[balmy compass]

yes

[lyric oriole]

It's called gold ammo for 2 reasons, the primary being bit can be bought with gold. (For a very brief period it could only be bought with gold)

Also HEAT leaves a yellowish gold trail when fired and most tanks used to have HEAT as prammo

Nobody in their right mind uses gold for it

[balmy compass]

well
premium ammo
pr ammo
prammo

[valid gale]

They don’t do less damage they fly faster than AP

[plucky summit]

It shouldn't be possible for a shell to penetrate a fully red armor plate unless a bug occurred or the plate wasn't completely red

APCR as prammo tends to penetrate more than AP, which doesn't mean it penetrated red armor plates, it just clears out some armor plates to shoot that AP couldn't penetrate

[stone robin]

Okay so they shoot farther?

Flying faster makes so that it can pen and go farther no?

[plucky summit]

Range doesn’t matter

[stone robin]

Range depends on the gun right?

[plucky summit]

It really doesn’t matter

[stone robin]

I know this isn't quite vehicle related but how many lock boxes and key could you get from the cup?

[plucky summit]

You can get as many lockboxes as you're able to

The keys are limited, to 36, by watching all of each stream

[lyric copper]

me when i shoot a grey plate and it bounces:

[plucky summit]

Here's an interesting thing when low caliber HE has enough penetration

[tight storm]

I just get to blind shots on rhm im so good.😅

[pseudo swift]

what should i upgrade first on the tiger 2

gun?

[lyric oriole]

It actually does matter

Small caliber MG type guns lose all piercing power beyond 320 meters

And Helsing loses all piercing power past 400

[balmy compass]

so you're saying I can't snipe past 320m in my VK 16.02?

[lyric oriole]

Yes unfortunately lmao

[plucky summit]

Well you must be an idiot to try and fire beyond those ranges
The Helsing is the one I've noticed, though

[limber frigate]

How are you an idiot for shooting someone while safe?

[lyric oriole]

You find out pretty easily in the more mainline ones tbf

[plucky summit]

1. You're usually a light tank when you're using an MG, and Helsing is akin to a medium, really
2. You can be safe without sniping

It's just unwise to snipe that far in tanks like those, especially with after-shot bloom

[limber frigate]

Its not really a bad idea to take shots that have a chance to deal damage at any range (unless someone will punish you for it)

[pseudo swift]

?

[plucky summit]

Well of course shoot if there's no penalty, but generally the penalty you're taking is NOT being at a better position to get more consistent damage

[limber frigate]

Agreed on that, unless your playing a skorp or 130pm

[plucky summit]

But those don't drop shells past 400m 🤷‍♂️
I'm speaking with the context that you're one of the tanks mentioned in Mayo's message

[limber frigate]

Ah, i didnt see the tank in question besides vk and hellsing

[plucky summit]

The only situation I've found is Helsing on Yamato Harbor, trolling around on a hill back in spawn during Mad Games, just testing my climbs

[lyric copper]

get the top turret, and then the top 105mm

[plucky summit]

Sniping is okay, just do it with the right tanks

[limber frigate]

ong, please dont take a maus and redline all game

[pseudo swift]

wdym 105mm

[lyric copper]

the tiger 2's top gun is a 105mm

or in german units, 10.5cm

[limber frigate]

turret is a must have. Angers me to see people using stock turret. And makes me feel good when they’re on red

[plucky summit]

Most of the time, it's not voluntary

[pseudo swift]

so turret first, and then gun?

[limber frigate]

yes

[pseudo swift]

okay thanks

[misty wing]

I wish the batchat stock gun wasn't so boring

as in the same thing as the top gun but worse in every way

[viral trellis]

Anyone have opinions on the auto-reloader vs standard gun on the Italian TDs?

Seems like a waste to just use the regular gun, giving up the ability to burst dmg

[valid gale]

The clips suck

[limber frigate]

every tank in the line sucks (besides bassato and the t5)

[plucky summit]

The tier 8 with the standard gun is nice

[fallow halo]

what gun is batter for the kv2 the 107 or the derp?

[fallow halo]

single shot is way better (more dpm, less pushable, better), because you have armor. not against APCR or HEAT tho lmao

[wise moth]

On the tier 8, the single shooter gun is way better, and it’s not close.

More alpha, and most importantly, over 1k more DPM. The DPM difference is just way too significant. You go from unusably bad DPM on the autoreloader (1781 at maximum with cali) to great DPM (2921 with cali) on the single shooter.

On the tier VII, the difference isn’t as stark, but the ~400 DPM is not to be overlooked, especially with the substantial alpha advantage

[willow seal]

I wish it had a 5 shot 225 90mm gun with 2s intra for 1125 in 8s or a 4 shot 240 alpha 90mm gun with 2s intra for 960 in 6s. I honestly prefer the 90mm on BC25 AP

[sudden fulcrum]

That’s a lot of numbers and mumbo jumbo I don’t understand

[willow seal]

I wish for a smaller pew pewer that holds more pews in its clipazine with shorter time between pews to make it different and fun

[sudden fulcrum]

NOW you’re speaking my language XD

[solid gate]

Lol no

[misty wing]

why not

[stone robin]

What's alpha do?

[limpid ether]

Alpha = Damage per Shot

[odd cove]

averaged

[glossy stratus]

@plucky summit man I got the super conqueror

Tips?

[odd cove]

hulldown

[solid gate]

sit in a hulldown spot and never leave

[glossy stratus]

My first tier 10 was the collector's wz-111

[hearty hornet]

Good advice

[glossy stratus]

Yesterday I got the

My only T10s are: E100, wz-111, chieftain and super conqueror.

From experience only to wz

[hearty hornet]

Tier 10 is a very different type of battle, overall experience in optimising defence and offence in different tank types is a must

[glossy stratus]

Guys, here in Brazil it's 04:00 in the morning, I have to sleep, by the way, and thanks for the tips.

[odd cove]

just say 5a so it's more clear

[glossy stratus]

Oh, ok

[hearty hornet]

Side scraping, reverse angeling, hull down positioning, using the terrain....all important skills to learn

[vivid kiln]

Hi, any tips for OBJ 260? I got it from a chest and got no clue how to play it, everybody seems to pen me with no issues 😄

[solid gate]

sell it

[odd cove]

L pike

[vivid kiln]

Not entirely sure what hulldown means pretty new to the game

[solid gate]

sell it

[vivid kiln]

Why?

[solid gate]

buy more crates

[vivid kiln]

Ooooh

[odd cove]

idk what tier you're at but I could help you out in a room

[brave matrix]

i need gold now to rebuy my badger

[vivid kiln]

That's what I'm rocking RN

I'm piss poor I don't have enough creds for that

[solid gate]

sell your 121b you get 6m credits

[odd cove]

find a training room named "woo" and join

[vivid kiln]

Um, how exactly? 😐
*Nvm

[solid gate]

target icon

[odd cove]

interesting name-

[vivid kiln]

😄

[vivid kiln]

Cheers for the pointers I'ma go eat somethng and head to work 😄

[odd cove]

[plucky summit]

Yeah your main objective is to find a good hulldown spot and hold positions until the game demands you push or retreat. Your nice DPM will keep enemies at bay unless you're rushed over, in which case no tank will see a good side to that fate

[light dove]

Is this good tank, I'm asking because that tank is carbon itself and can be damaged anywhere, as well chance of dying is high.

Can someone tell me, do I have to sell it, keep it, or play on it?

[plucky summit]

It seems you've enjoyed playing it, no?

[light dove]

Yeah, but it became boring in time. I got it by luxury event from first opened case, yet I was on 4th rank or like that

[plucky summit]

Well, it's your only good source of credits, so I'd keep it

[light dove]

I know, but I don't like it's carbon armor, reload is 4 sec and dmg around 200-300, maneuvers, for people that's good tank and silver gainer, but once I reach 7-8 level, hellcat will be useless for me

Bro, amxs are destroying me everytime

[plucky summit]

The tier 6 Hellcat is better tier for tier, but not better

[light dove]

Yup, and killstealars decide to rotate me everytime when my head is damaged in tank and reality

[plucky summit]

Probably AMX 13 57 lol

[light dove]

Lemme see closest one rn

[solid gate]

Amx 13 105

[plucky summit]

🤨

[light dove]

75, 90 and 12t rarely

[plucky summit]

Oh, so all of the ones I considered possibly your answer x-x

[light dove]

Ye, I've did many times, but when you're alone without teammates help, and that amx is smart, you got no chances basically, unless environment allows ya

Main problem of hellcat is that, his armor is equal ms-1

[plucky summit]

He's talking about Super Hellcat x-x

[light dove]

1 I went with teammates, but they decided to die

2 any that I like, mainly go get experience on anything

Idfk, I'd rather to get platoon mate with brains and team play iq, instead bots that die in matchmaking

Ye I'm a bit new, but I've gained a bit experience after some headaches by matchmaking

Ikr that's impossible, my wr went from 65 to 54 for 2 days playing without platoon, as well playing on soviet tanks

For me, playing with hellcat is comfortable, yet on pc was times better, due to keyboard and mouse, even if I played on old dead laptop that stopped working, I managed to launch blitz through steam on windows 7

Btw, tell me some good tips about playing on super hellcat and not dying in short time. Without team help in flank

[plucky summit]

I'm afraid you're basically dead if you don't just run

[light dove]

Against su152 or what

[plucky summit]

Don't poke SU-152s.

[light dove]

I trying to get good angles of armor, but I get Pentwater anyway

[plucky summit]

Super Hellcat is not armored at all, so angling it doesn't help

[light dove]

I'd agree, but tiger was able to don't penetrate super hellcat in butt

[plucky summit]

He missed your hull, that's probably why

[light dove]

Ye, that's funny tbh

About tiger, how to do ammo crack to that monster (6 7 level) with su, is, kv and that same hellcat

[plucky summit]

Shoot the lower sides, generally, but you shouldn't focus on that

[light dove]

Yup, is 7 masters enough in super hellcat?

[plucky summit]

Always shoot for more

[light dove]

I've tried as td, lt and mt, best one style was on lt and mt, mt due to its reload and lt due it's speed, armor is equal to lt with no armor

Being td makes you feel pain, even with rotating telescope, your damage and armor are worse from td

[plucky summit]

It's a DPM tank, you don't play it like a normal TD

[light dove]

60x250 is a lot dmg per min

[plucky summit]

That's certainly not how the math works...

[solid gate]

60x250??? 😵

[plucky summit]

It's 60x12.28

I'm trolling, oh no

[light dove]

Lol

[plucky summit]

But yeah, with rammer, 12.28x225 lol, runs DPM up to 2763, which is crazy

[light dove]

On 7th ranks^^

So super hellcat is good tank if it's owner is brainhead and can play with team or strategy

[solid gate]

What do you mean? It's currently the meta in BUC, 7 Super Hellcats with a total of 105,000 DPM.

[plucky summit]

"Braindead" is not how I'd describe a good Shellcat player

[light dove]

Brainhead* not braindead, because braindead super hellcqt looks like just spot dummy

[plucky summit]

Never really considered "brainhead" a term, but alright

[solid gate]

it's like a head, but with a brain

[plucky summit]

So literally anyone

[solid gate]

Hey, this is the WOTB playerbase. That's what I would call a bit of a bold assumption

[plucky summit]

I'm a bold guy

[light dove]

I played on cis server before, idk how in eu server teams are able to die in 2 minutes

[solid gate]

Alright then, fair enough
Also you're in RGN? Did they open for clan event or how did you get in, I thought it was closed

[plucky summit]

I'm a mercenary for Ritter lol

It's not legitimate, but I like the thought of having RGN's tag

[solid gate]

actually nevermind

[misty wing]

LXODL best clan

[plucky summit]

🗿

[ocean dock]

@silent knoll traitor -_-

[plucky summit]

It's just a merc job <3

[silent knoll]

Shhhh.

Imma go back to sleep. Pinging me at 4Am in dam morning smh

[plucky summit]

Wait, do me ping you for stream? :D

[ocean dock]

@silent knoll : )

[silent knoll]

Shut

[ocean dock]

😂

[solid wolf]

i hate ritter , i hate ritter 😭

[plucky summit]

Why so?

[polar basin]

Which gun for this?

[solid gate]

2 shot all the way 3 shot is just objectively worse cause you spend 23s reloading where with the 2 shot you spend 24 or 25 can't remember but i haven't played the tank in a while but i enjoyed the 2 shot more then the 2 shell

[solid gate]

3 shot reloads in 16s lol

[vestal belfry]

I miss using yohs

[strange thicket]

16.8s
i think the 3 shot is preferable on the tier 9 but it is less fun and kinda annoying to use lol

[stone robin]

How's the Obj 907 to you guys? I'm playing a tier 6 right now and I'm getting better vibes. The VK 28.01

[odd cove]

obj 907 is pretty good, troll armor and whatnot; what you expect from a soviet light-med

[stone robin]

I think I could have gotten a more "reliable" tier 10

[stone robin]

15 000 gold

[odd cove]

it has a higher skill cap

[stone robin]

Yeah I realized it might be my skill stopping me from enjoying some tanks so I went back to play in some of the lower tiers and I'm doing a bit better.

[solid wolf]

is american td can fronline?

[plucky summit]

E3 sure can

[empty helm]

E4 suren't can

[vestal belfry]

for the preparation of getting the 5/1 are there any good tips
I forgot how to use it again

[solid gate]

this is a recurring theme with british tanks and it's "sit in a hulldown spot and never leave"

[empty helm]

Australia wages war against any other tier 8-9 tanks

[vestal belfry]

i thought i have to use it as an LT because it fast

[empty helm]

You use 5/1 as a Lt?

[vestal belfry]

also im struggling to find hulldown spots since the maps are eh for me
@empty helm perhaps or a yes

the only map i know that lets you hull down is fort despair (based map)

[vestal belfry]

british engineering

[lyric copper]

more like camp despair (cringe map)

[vestal belfry]

bruh thats the only map i can hulldown

[balmy compass]

I barely see anyone camp in Fort Despair

[lyric copper]

issue of skill tbh if you somehow cant find maps with hulldown spots

[balmy compass]

Mines:

[solid wolf]

aww sorry i spend my resources on italian line , maybe ill grind this next its fronyline too right the e3?

[balmy compass]

E3 can frontline if you don't get circled

[odd cove]

mino 🗿

[solid wolf]

aww okay maybe ill get it after minotauro , damn i forgot to look at this chat they didnt ping me 😭

[plucky summit]

._.

[odd cove]

stop at tier 9

[balmy compass]

well, you will be used to how both play, just don't angle, both E3 and Mino have bad side armor

[solid wolf]

okay got it well as long they have tough armor amd td im fine with it , thats the td i really want 😊

[plucky summit]

Meh, stop at tier 8 lol

[odd cove]

tier 8 is great, tier 9 is only because of the gd imo

[balmy compass]

Mino also has gun dep

[plucky summit]

There really is no purpose of the tier 9 and 10

[solid wolf]

why u telling me to stop at lines i always wajt to get tier 10 than the lower tiers

[balmy compass]

the tier IX and X suck compared to the tier VIII

[odd cove]

those are just our opinions

[plucky summit]

They’re just bad 😂

If you want a frontline tank with a TD gun, feel around E100 or 60TP, as they hit pretty hard

[dapper violet]

The payoff for getting mino I heard is bad

[balmy compass]

Jageroo:

[dapper violet]

Man assumed that a turret was a must

[balmy compass]

frenchpaper was saying he wanted Mino and E3, one has a quarter of a turret the other doesn't, so Jageroo would work well

[dapper violet]

Oh true

[plucky summit]

I say Jageroo is like support 🤔

The heavies can better shrug off fire

[tepid stump]

should I get the single shot gun first on the Smv 64?

[balmy compass]

Jageroo can blocks shells just as easily as heavies, but Jageroo is prone to being circled

[plucky summit]

Jageroo also can’t fire back without exposing weakspots 🤷‍♂️

[balmy compass]

well, it's pretty easy to block your weakspots

[plucky summit]

Yeah, and sacrifice your lethal gun

[vestal belfry]

should i

get an is3
take a break on soviet tanks and have fun driving other tanks until at t7

[tepid stump]

As of right now, my Smv 64 doesn't have the two guns researched

[balmy compass]

it's not that hard to play Jageroo, since the cheeks got buffed it's really easy to block prammo from heavies, just make sure your lower plate isn't exposed and block their shot then fire back, you also have the HP to take a couple of hits

[plucky summit]

Heavies fare better at frontline. Jageroo should be the preventative alpha gun to keep your heavies from being rushed.

Your job isn’t to be a heavy, your job is to be a survivable fear factor

[vestal belfry]

ok i guess i have to take a break from the entire game (until eu stream kick in)

[odd cove]

is3 isn’t bad

[plucky summit]

It’s underwhelming, but not to be ignored

[balmy compass]

easy to counter

[vestal belfry]

well honestly im not prepared for t8 fights yet

[solid gate]

What’s the best tank??

[balmy compass]

Panzer II

[solid gate]

For X ?

[balmy compass]

not the Panzer II

[plucky summit]

There’s not supposed to be a “best tank” for the game, but Type 71 sure tries to be

[solid gate]

Where is that in?

[balmy compass]

Japan

[plucky summit]

Japan

[odd cove]

what they said

[solid gate]

It has the most amor in the game to right?

[plucky summit]

No

[balmy compass]

no, Maus has more armor

[fast compass]

Speaking of type 71, are they never going to nerf it? Will they just powercreep it eventually

[solid gate]

No bc 71 has 255

[plucky summit]

Having the most armor doesn’t make you the best tank 🤷‍♂️

[solid gate]

Oh I thought the game went by stats sorry

[balmy compass]

dang, I should have known the Type 71 clearly has more armor then the Maus

[plucky summit]

Type 71 has thicker plates in small spots, but Maus is much better covered all around

[balmy compass]

210mm side turret armor

[solid gate]

My fav tank

[plucky summit]

Sure is a common celebrity

[balmy compass]

maximum damage and pen according to the basic stats

[solid gate]

I always wanted e100 as a child but now it’s trash

[kindred wren]

E100 is better than ever

[plucky summit]

May I recommend playing low tiers for a while? 😬

[balmy compass]

play Panzer II 👍

[solid gate]

I just bought everything I never had the chance to play low tiers

[kindred wren]

Lol

[plucky summit]

Yeah don’t buy your way into higher tiers, this game is designed to gradually get more complex the higher you go

[odd cove]

go back to play the pow tiers

[kindred wren]

You say that but looking at the mess that is tier seven and eight I kinda doubt that

[solid gate]

I used to play years ago but I became trash 😭

[solid gate]

Ppl get so angry on the game like geez

[plucky summit]

Past 7&8 is where you actually learn how your tank is supposed to provide to the team

[balmy compass]

more or less

looks at 183

[vestal belfry]

is the 113 line worth it? im not prepared yet to get an is3 so im gonna go crazy with other tanks instead

and of course i will also not continue to the wz 110 and instead find another tank to go crazy instead

[kindred wren]

Yet you are only considered a good player when the team ends up providing to you

[solid wolf]

i knew it , i was stupid so idiot waste my resources on that jage100 line not even a real frontline td tsk i hate that line. hmm ill got mino amd e3 simce u tell me ealier theyre the ones i need..

[solid gate]

Ppl do dumb stuff they get mad at the team when they die first

[plucky summit]

I’d be happy to try and tutor you if you need a refresher on most of the concepts in this game 💀

[balmy compass]

people get so mad when you are the last one alive

[vestal belfry]

am i the only one who get mad at enemies instead

[solid gate]

Who me or someone else?

[plucky summit]

Just get E3, though T28 and T95 aren’t that great

[kindred wren]

The line is full of frontline tds, it‘s just usually a bit complex to drive them effectively

[balmy compass]

I get mad when a grille highrolls me for 700+ but I roll less then 600 in mine

[plucky summit]

Just if you want 🤷‍♂️

[solid gate]

Yess!!

[solid wolf]

i see i understand it , as long tier 10 are match on my requirements then im set , i will only tkeep the tier 10 any way

[kindred wren]

It‘s not a horrible line, but to be honest just go for a line that you like/ want to research

[balmy compass]

you should definitely keep the T95 👍

[odd cove]

i can vouch for the e3

[vestal belfry]

i get mad for getting uptiered because yes (getting uptiered is one of the reasons why i will never go to get t8 tanks yet because yes)

[solid gate]

My first X tank was the T110E5

[odd cove]

balanced

[vestal belfry]

113 was my original first line to research but got bored too much so went off with the is-7 line instead

[balmy compass]

I get mad when I get hit several times in a short period of time

[solid gate]

It was so bad I hated it I always got killed

[violet timber]

Jageroo is a fine tank

[odd cove]

howd you play it

[plucky summit]

Seems you have two tanks that are perfect for hulldown and sidescraping lessons 😌

[kindred wren]

Hm, the line is very inhomogeneous (the tank play very differently) so at least you‘ll get a lot of variation

[vestal belfry]

i get mad when there are 2 enemy tanks no matter if its bots or not (i hate 2v1s)

[solid gate]

I always played back and shot from long distances because E100s back then always used to be so powerful

[plucky summit]

They still are

[solid gate]

No I die so quick with it

[vestal belfry]

I hope chinese heavies dont have the same bad accuracy as soviet heavies im tired of pretending like an light tank i cant hit someone that is more than 70 meters

[plucky summit]

You’re not using it properly, then

[solid gate]

I try I always end up the most targeted tank on my team

[odd cove]

e5 is a hulldown tank with the classic american gd and dpm

[vestal belfry]

btw i forgot how to know more about a guns accuracy

[solid gate]

I did love the IX M103 so much

[odd cove]

read its stats

[vestal belfry]

where tho
aiming time?
idk what is dispersion tho but i heard its related to accuracy

[odd cove]

dispersion is where the shell will hit relative to where you aim, judged by the dotted circles when you aim in
look in Blitz Hangar

[vestal belfry]

great is and is2 have almost identical gun handling although Is2 have less elevation than is yet faster turret traverse than is?

idk

[polar basin]

Which gun for it?

[limber berry]

Big big big 2 shell gun

[solid gate]

Hi does anyone have a idea about this like what does this mean

[plucky summit]

Tank purchase certificates last an hour before expiring. That is just a reciept of it expiring

Also, are you NA? I'm free to teach a little

[solid gate]

I just hit 2k damage on a tank!!!

[late thistle]

what tier?

[solid gate]

I literally killed the tank with 2,328 damage

[solid gate]

Yes I’m NA

[plucky summit]

Well, just if you're free to learn a little

[late thistle]

oh another 183 enjoyer, you like big derp I see

[solid gate]

Inv

[misty wing]

buy some hesh lol

[solid gate]

Yes I got the tank in a day lol I didn’t even work for it 😭

[misty wing]

you have 17 million credits and over a year of premium

[heavy arrow]

crates

[solid gate]

Yes I spent 1k yesterday on the game

[misty wing]

I know, I have 1100 days myself

[lyric oriole]

Rookie numbers

[solid gate]

I had 236k gold but spend it all

[misty wing]

I converted a bunch of it for the d max event okay

[heavy arrow]

I used to have 800 until I spent them all on crates in galactic riches event for borrat and shellcat. GOT NEITHER IN 70 CRATES

[late thistle]

you should definitely use hesh on the 183 tho, like maybe half of your ammo in hesh, don't use he it's just a worse version with lower pen

[plucky summit]

Not surprising.

[misty wing]

I run 5 AP 9 HESH 1 HE on mine

[lyric oriole]

5565 days and counting

Or something like that

[solid gate]

Did you add me chicken man

[plucky summit]

Getting the game open, it's not responding x-x

[heavy arrow]

I would like to not sell my soul to wg please, thanks

[solid gate]

I’m at a basketball game while playing atm

[misty wing]

Chickenman has only one tank in his garage, that being the Lowe

[plucky summit]

🙄

[solid gate]

Lollllll

[lyric oriole]

Wrong

He got a second one last night

[plucky summit]

A second Löwe 😎

[late thistle]

speaking of the Löwe, will the buff make it super good next update?

[heavy arrow]

Am I the only one that's disappointed by the 45 top speed on RAAC?

[solid gate]

I never used Lowe is it good?

[misty wing]

it's an armored med, 45 is quite generous for it

[lyric oriole]

It will definitely make it something

[plucky summit]

Yes, but then again I think it’s good already

@heavy arrow the hulldown capabilities is worth it

[solid gate]

It’s with nothing on lol

[lyric oriole]

5557 as of today

[heavy arrow]

It is good at hull down, but when a T49 snapped my cupola while on the move, it doesn't seem like that

[plucky summit]

Of course, if you don’t think it’s that good, then it at least earns you mad credits 😋

@heavy arrow extreme luck, not the tank’s fault

[heavy arrow]

Yeah I know, love the accuracy on it too

[solid gate]

I’m the best 183 😫

[plucky summit]

RAAC scratches the same itch for me that Löwe does

[lyric oriole]

Being sub-par in all the important ways?

[plucky summit]

A very reliable gun + a very usable armor profile

[lyric oriole]

Raac sure

[safe cedar]

idk Löwe gun feels really nice tbh.

[lyric oriole]

Lowe no

[misty wing]

chickenman do you think the Lowe would be competitive in tier 10 if it had:
360/300/460 alpha
-1 second off the reload
+15mm to pen on all rounds
2400 HP

[valid gale]

Foul

[lyric oriole]

The armor profile for lowe is anything but

[late thistle]

get that hesh and make it work, it's so satisfying when you high roll

[solid gate]

Yesss

[plucky summit]

Put me on Himmelsdorf and I will make the Löwe your nightmare

[lyric oriole]

Lowe is my sweet dream

They grow on

Trees

Damage farming made ez

[heavy arrow]

Fight my T56 you son of a gun

[plucky summit]

If you were NA I will >:l

[safe cedar]

Why make Löwe a copy and paste of the E-75 at tier X? What if you kept the 310-350 alpha gun, but with crazy dpm and handling to make-up for it.

[balmy compass]

What madness is happening here?
Rhyming with Lowe?

[heavy arrow]

Test server 😎

[plucky summit]

I ain’t doin no test server

[misty wing]

in what world is that a copy of the E75 lmao

[heavy arrow]

T56 dunks on the lowe anyday

[plucky summit]

Not at all, the armor is good until you get to 260mm+

@heavy arrow I’ll dunk on you with it anyday 😳

[late thistle]

Löwe is gonna be my main credit grinder next update

[safe cedar]

Slow, armoured, German Superheavy with 128mm gun.

[misty wing]

360 alpha is 128mm to you?

[heavy arrow]

Cupola sniper >:(

[plucky summit]

The quality of Lowe

[safe cedar]

Time to get glasses.

[plucky summit]

May I know your username? 😌

[late thistle]

I'd also like a small buff to the T34... maybe a bit more alpha?

[balmy compass]

T34 already has good alpha

[plucky summit]

53TP outclasses, unfortunately

[heavy arrow]

BSS_David, I am no good player, 55% wr and pretty bad average damage but 30 day aint all that bad

[misty wing]

T34 needs better gun handling and maybe DPM

[heavy arrow]

pen is good enough, hull down and just sit there

[plucky summit]

Who said it needed pen? o.o

[heavy arrow]

Nono, I meant as in it doesn't need dpm buff because of the pen

[plucky summit]

It certainly needs top speed or accuracy

[heavy arrow]

top speed yes, accuracy debatable, aim 😎

[balmy compass]

give it both Reticle cali and Enhanced speed boost

[plucky summit]

Well I plan to teach you through VC so like, I guess later then

[misty wing]

its aim time and dispersion values are quite terrible

[plucky summit]

The urge to sell more tanks to get the mystery crates

[misty wing]

I just really want the gsor

[late thistle]

don't, resist the temptation

[heavy arrow]

I did that, don't
are they in shop forever like wg remove them already

[plucky summit]

No don't.

[misty wing]

I sold the majority of my tier 10 collectors
they're just all so boring

[heavy arrow]

I kept badger and super conq

[balmy compass]

Buy all 3 tier X premiums then 😎

[late thistle]

I got 2X 5000g from the daily 500g crates, spent them again on same crates to get nothing 🤡

[lilac mica]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015813180926201958/1047586257791877220/RPReplay_Final1669834056.mov
Can we talk about this ?

[plucky summit]

Epic ricochet

[misty wing]

I already have the m60 and 121b, the last one is the chieftain?

[balmy compass]

Yes

[heavy arrow]

I need chieftain

[plucky summit]

But oh well, if you think I'm not a challenge with my Lowe, I'll make the nightmare far worse when it gets PBR 😈

[balmy compass]

You prob hit the tiny spot of the floor of the turret

[heavy arrow]

Lowe's turret is just too weak for me to play, no armour or unpennable armour, no Inbetweeners

[plucky summit]

Just wiggle the turret 4head

[balmy compass]

Play Keiler then 😎
Your issues are fixed
And Keiler is faster

[heavy arrow]

E75TS cheaper

[plucky summit]

I do play Keiler :l

But I might come back to Lowe in 9.5

[balmy compass]

Eat prammo

[heavy arrow]

Pen it in a sidescrape, do it you won't

[balmy compass]

Keiler can do the same thing

[plucky summit]

But better

[heavy arrow]

Keiler fat and as said much more expensive, E75TS was free even though I didn't bother getting it

[balmy compass]

E 75TS is also fat

[misty wing]

they should rename Keiler back to E75 RT

[plucky summit]

Fat? It has the same hull as E75 TS

[heavy arrow]

Turret is chonk, but better armoured

[balmy compass]

I like driving a wild pig tho :/
E75 RT is a boring name

[heavy arrow]

I honestly don't dig either, Skoda and Shark still better

[plucky summit]

E75's is bigger

[misty wing]

Skoda is the name of a company, Shark is the name of the legendary camo

[heavy arrow]

Okay, the Skoda T56 tier 8 heavy and T54E2 tier 8 heavy, better?

[late thistle]

T 56

[plucky summit]

T54E2 is better

[heavy arrow]

[misty wing]

TNHT Vz. 51

[balmy compass]

That tier VIII heavy with big alpha
That American heavy with a intimidating camo

[heavy arrow]

That one is a double shot this one is single
@plucky summit Well yes, but I prefer slapping butts for 600 with HE

[plucky summit]

1. Language
2. That doesn't make it better

[heavy arrow]

Alpha makes tanks better all the time

[late thistle]

Can someone type the name of the German tier 8 premium light tank? really fast w/ any typo/error

[plucky summit]

Explain 183's massive stat deficiency

[heavy arrow]

LeKpz?
@plucky summit Players rushing in and doing one shot
I have tried the 183 before and averaged 5K over 10 games

[late thistle]

ya but full name

[heavy arrow]

LeKpz 90MM is all I remember

[plucky summit]

leKpz M 41 90 mm

[heavy arrow]

forgot the M 41 from bulldog

[plucky summit]

Any stats to back it up? You certainly weren't on your account

[misty wing]

M41 Walker Bulldog

[heavy arrow]

I haven't ever played the 183 on my account, friend came over once and did there, I won't research it anytime soon myself

[plucky summit]

I'm sure that 5k won't stand the test of time at all ._.

[late thistle]

183 is good when you feel like gambling

[heavy arrow]

I know, but still, its an okay tank if you don't rush into frontline for a single shell
I am not and don't plan on becoming a top player, just enjoying my time
Didn't say it's the ONLY thing, but it does make a big difference, same dpm but higher alpha almost always means you'll do better in a 1 on 1 situation because of peeking and out trading

[plucky summit]

Oh certainly, but of course alpha isn't the only thing that matters in a tank's performance

[late thistle]

I think the 183 needs more gun depression, armor and a higher camo value

[plucky summit]

Well, I care not for the 1v1 situation 😎

183 is fine, it's still insanely fun while also not OP

[heavy arrow]

I end up in 1v1s far too often, or even 1vn, just last night I ended up in a 2v6 in prog 65, ended up doing 5K in 3 minutes even though I despise the tank

[faint walrus]

Which line is better IS4 or IS7?

[heavy arrow]

Line IS7, tank itself probably IS4
In my wr bracket people just don't pen IS4s as far as I can see

[plucky summit]

IS-7's

IS-7 > IS-4, still

IS-4 is harder to pen than IS-4 🤔

But hey, IS-7 is leagues over that old armor

[heavy arrow]

Hm?
IS-7 is faster, better gun, IS-4 is better at sidescraping but that's about it, I still think would prefer it but it isn't necessarily better come to think of it. Not a fan of Russian heavies so I can't say for sure either way

[plucky summit]

Ignore the stroke, IS-7's armor > IS-4's

[late thistle]

the first tank I ever ammoracked in tier X was an IS-7, that was years go

[plucky summit]

I ammo racked an IS-7 within a few days ago x-x

[heavy arrow]

I ammoracked a 183, felt good

[late thistle]

I seem to get penned less in the 252U than the T 56, despite the spike nose...

[heavy arrow]

Super Conq and T95E6 are the best tier X collectors at the moment change my mind

[plucky summit]

Badger ignored...?

[misty wing]

Hot take but T95E6 is mid

[late thistle]

Obj 907?

[heavy arrow]

Obj has more effective armour, that's why, and Skoda has a cupola
@plucky summit No no, honorable mention but probably 3rd.
907 never, E6 is an insane heavium

[plucky summit]

Badger is certainly the top tier 10 collector rn

[heavy arrow]

If you're in a heavy facing it, or a slow med, yes, definitely, but once you have its side it just falls apart because of the lack of a turret as any td
The gun is only good because of the raw dpm

[plucky summit]

Once you have any tank's side they fall apart :)

[misty wing]

who wants to take a guess on what I get from these mystery crates :)

[heavy arrow]

IS-7 COUGH
@misty wing prem

[late thistle]

Mystery certificate --> Excelsior

[stone robin]

I have a tank under tier 10 that does 2700 dpm

[plucky summit]

Not surprising at all

[heavy arrow]

Many people do my guy

[misty wing]

bruh

[heavy arrow]

I have a tier 7 that does
RIP @misty wing

[stone robin]

I think it's pretty cool. I don't think the lower tiers would do that close to 3k

[plucky summit]

Tier 6s hit 3k DPM x-x

[heavy arrow]

Really? Which ones, I don't play tier 6 much

[stone robin]

Can you list one?

[plucky summit]

Jg.Pz. IV =)

[late thistle]

I don't regret buying the 500g daily mystery crates... Overall I got 500K free xp, 10K gold and an Obj 907, they are the best crates for the cost/value

[heavy arrow]

Not many things scare me, but that thing, it terrifies me...

[plucky summit]

Maxed Jg.Pz. IV and Kryos near 3k too

[stone robin]

Congrats on the gold