vehicles-discussion

[plucky summit]

But it's not supposed to be overangled, but if you read the mechanic above, its overangled anyways because of said mechanic

You can’t use 70 degrees as the standard anymore 😞

[fast compass]

I doubt 3cr bypass would ever be fixed.

[sleek apex]

Yeah thats the same as what i said except that i forgot about the 3CR mechanic ingame, the question reminded me about the question if the spare track add-on armor actually worked during ww2. Nice explanation there though although its a different case since the 215b doesnt have the road wheels covering most of the sides armor surface and only have the side skirt, A module would react different to a plain spaced armor sheet.

[plucky summit]

Both external modules and spaced armor plates trigger 3CRB

[sleek apex]

Yes thats true, although external modules could potentially stop shells by "absorbing" it.

[plucky summit]

They can, yeah, I wonder though, why doesn’t inspector account for that? 🤔
Could you give me an example where the track absorbs the shell all by itself?

[sleek apex]

Sometimes we get track crits when we shoot into a tank's side, i am assuming that when it occurs the tracks managed to stop a shell from going through and only got jammed.

Wotb certainly dont show the shells getting stuck on the tracks but as how track crits work ingame aside module damage properties, im assuming thats how it would go if its compared on an irl situation.

[plucky summit]

All I’d want is a picture of the shot being absorbed and then the wotreplay in the website showing that it should have 100% dealt damage

[vivid peak]

record tier 7

record

[sleek apex]

Its almost midnight now so i cant give one rn, all i could say about the armor highlight display on armor inspector that afaik it depends on the effective armor compared to selected gun's pen range.

[plucky summit]

That’s my assumption

[violet timber]

2nd place HoF, well done

5th place for all time as well

[hot ingot]

i got second place all time on kv5 but cant upload not enough battles

[violet timber]

Seems the AMX game above isn't actually a record either lol, only 1,798 battles

[hot ingot]

im missing 800 games because rating battles dont count

[mighty cosmos]

"buy the lucky t8 crate bundle" they said - "you'll get a great tank" they said.. why did i get the TS-5 then? 😭 ..at least i aced it already.. - still feels like a waste though

[violet timber]

TS-5 isn’t that bad tbh

[mighty cosmos]

it might not, yes, it has quite good armor, "decent"-ish gun, but for me it isn't the best suiting tank as i'm a med/lt guy.. sooo the slow traverse speed and lack of turret makes me suffer a bit..

[hot ingot]

since i even sold my badger i guess not my tank lol

[violet timber]

I’d personally recommend getting the Badger back. It’s insane right now

[meager cedar]

My RNG with badger is terrible, I’ve landed more shots while moving with a typical Russian gun than being fully stationery and fully aimed in with badger

[mighty cosmos]

relatable.

[solid gate]

Is anyone on Tier 9-10 here? I wanna ask how much free exp do I need fully upgrade the ST-I cause people have been saying that Stock ST-I is pain

[mighty cosmos]

you can just click on the tank in the tech tree and just count the modules "prices"..

but by a rough guess i'd say roughly around 142k without the tank itself, if you meant that

[solid gate]

yep, that's sufficient enough details

[hot ingot]

buy the tog2 u get 10x. x5 xp certs helps with the grind

[stark stag]

Just got my hands on both of the Royal Ordnance L7's.... is it better to stick with HEAT or HESH for the premium shell?

[empty helm]

Heat for penetration
Hesh for fun

[violet laurel]

What's the best barrel for the su152?

[stark stag]

are you looking for alpha strike potential or are you looking for best overall? because if you want best overall, that would have to be the 122mm D-25 mod. '44

[violet laurel]

What's alpha strike potential?

[stark stag]

damage per shell

[violet laurel]

Ahhh well I wanna hit em and make them go ouch like I do in my kv2

[plucky summit]

Just use the stock gun

[stark stag]

Use the stock gun and aim very carefully

[violet laurel]

Sweet thanks guys

How's the he use on it? Is it like the kv2 or am I better off using ap

[plucky summit]

Better than KV-2, use it on light tanks and over-exposed mediums

[stark stag]

just keep in mind that High Explosive is best used on something like the Hellcats or Nashorns

[plucky summit]

Have some HEAT handy for tier 8, too

[stark stag]

Anything with armor heavier than a sherman you should be looking at using HEAT or AP

[violet laurel]

I just bought it so all these tips are helpful

[rich python]

Is lorraine 40t a nice tank?

Is it worth 5500 gold?

[plucky summit]

No

[rich python]

should I not buy?

[stark stag]

You're better off with the AMX 50/100 from the main tech tree with its top gun

[rich python]

@stark stag thx

[stark stag]

Hell, if you even can pick it up, I'd actually go with the Lowe over the Lorraine 40t. about as much punch as a tier 10 med on a tier 8 heavy is pretty damned good. just remember to not show too much side angle... you'll get blasted back to garage before you can blink if the enemy team is paying enough attention on where to shoot

[mighty cosmos]

i'd rather play the tiger2 over the löwe just because of the hull - otherwise it's a great tank..

[rich python]

@stark stag thanks this helped

[night ridge]

SuperHellcat Is A Premium Tank?

[tepid stump]

Yup

[void palm]

What's the American tank in dangerous duo pack? I'd check but I need days to log in. Gotta wait till Thursday. But is that T8 American tank good and worth 8k gold?)

[opaque flicker]

The L3-35 (L3-CC), when can it be added?

Height: 4ft 3in (1.3m)

Engine: FIAT-SPA CV3 water cooled, 43hp

Armor: 6-14mm

Crew: 2 (commander and driver)

Weight: 3.2 Tons

Top speed: 42 km/h (26 mph)

Main gun: 20mm anti-tank rifle (able to penatrate 18mm of armor from up to 300 yards, probably would need a pen buff)

[ancient iron]

god I HATE heavy slow tanks with big slow firing guns... I can never be sure whether I want Adrenaline or EPB

[opaque flicker]

Adrenaline, EPB barely does anything, and heavies specialties are usually their armor so expect a nice slow crawl

[void palm]

I just got the tiger 1... How's the tiger 2 in the tier 8 bracket.? Worth getting??

[balmy compass]

very worth, a kinda strong tank until someone presses 2 on you

[hot ingot]

tiger2 is one of the best tanks tier8 has to offer, if u like the tiger1 u will love the 2

[void palm]

Awesome, thanks for the information.. 😎

[hollow belfry]

HESH is the reason why you play these British mediums instead of another line. So guess what

[sterile briar]

Hows vk 90

[solid gate]

Could you tell me the height of this?

[opaque flicker]

A foot taller than you

[solid gate]

I don't doubt it. I'm 5'7"

[opaque flicker]

Oh no then dont worry, it's a bit more than a foot shorter

[solid gate]

1.3 meter lol, what a tiny cute tank

[opaque flicker]

With a weirdly large gun

And a fast engine

[solid gate]

another picture of it

[opaque flicker]

I was thinking it could be tier II, it has a weaker gun than the UE-57

[solid gate]

Is that ugly thing at the end of the barrel the muzzle breaker?

[opaque flicker]

Pretty much

[solid gate]

I've never seen anything like it

[opaque flicker]

Its Italy, they made a 3 shot autoreloader called the Progetto

Well not really, wargaming made it that way

[mighty cosmos]

that muzzle looks like the steel jar you use to add milk to your coffee from.. kind of

[opaque flicker]

The meatball launcher

[sterile briar]

The f is that

Huh looks weird as heck

[hot ingot]

hetzer with a pyramid on top

[balmy compass]

Hetzer X BT SV

Jagdpanther but it was a Hezter

[mighty cosmos]

yes, thank you very much.. this will haunt me forever now..

[plucky merlin]

Is keiler better the e75ts?

[lyric copper]

it requires less skill so yeah

[urban pewter]

Anyone on EU has dw2?

[plucky merlin]

Alright i guess the turret is better?

[urban pewter]

I have both and prefer Keiler

[lyric island]

when this next

[dense wave]

is it a good tank?

Looks awfully similar to the IS 3

[urban pewter]

Could be better

[lyric copper]

no it’s bad

nothing close to the IS-3 we know and love, but close to a prototype version called the Kirovets-1, which in WoTB is just the WZ-112-2

[dense wave]

Sad

[lyric copper]

honestly the WZ-111 is better, and that’s also bad

[hot ingot]

i got it a few days ago and i like it, noobs struggle to pen it, compared to the is5 its godmode

[dense wave]

God i just tested it and i remembered how i hate how much it takes to aim

Its like a russian heavy

Still i liked it a bit, not that bad

[lyric copper]

the 3 worst IS clones in the tier

WZ-112
WZ-111
IS-5

[hot ingot]

these are a pain to play, the glacier isnt

[lyric copper]

The WZ-112 is the Glacial.

[hot ingot]

the glaciers armor is much better than wz-111 and is5

[lyric copper]

the you realise it has nothing else going for it

[hot ingot]

when i play my is5 its nothing but pain and u bounce a bullet every 10 games , in the glacier i can perform well and bounce alot for me its not a bad prem i would call it mediocre since the 252U is another level

the speed on the glacier is a little anoying

[lyric copper]

imagine thinking 252 is another level when the 53TP and Type 57 exist

[hot ingot]

53TP best heavy in tier8 no doubt

[lyric copper]

there’s a reason the 252 is not in tier 8 tourn meta any more

53TP and Type 57 exist

and if their capabilities aren’t enough, you can always have the backup Emil 1 or a T32 for hulldown trolling

[hot ingot]

i like my ax for tournaments aswell depending on the map

[lyric copper]

AX is horrid

Better of with a T54E2 or even T26E5

better yet just get a Type 57 or T32

[hot ingot]

i perform better in ax than shark no idea why

[lyric copper]

Burst is meta, better to do more damage in a single shot than to do small alpha but fast

Tungsten made the 53TP meta, Emil stays because autoloader

[hot ingot]

i have to play my shark more just made my first ace after 150 games in the same gamecount i had like 7 on AX

[lyric copper]

because the AX has been left behind

[dense wave]

5 games in and i can only say that it feels average, not too good but it isnt the worst

[hot ingot]

yeah i feel the same

[wise moth]

DPM is the natural “counter” to autoloaders

[lyric copper]

Burst is still king

[wise moth]

Well, to be fair, the broken autoloaders at tier 8 are all 2-shot autoloaders which play identically to high alpha tanks

[lyric copper]

I mean there are only like 2 2-shot autoloaders at tier 8

[hot ingot]

lol my ax stats arent much different , wtf

[wise moth]

T77, Bourrasque, and GSOR, all of which are broken.

The more vanilla 3 shell autoloaders aren’t meta anymore IMP

[lyric copper]

I forget the T77 and GSOR are 2-shots in Blitz

too used to their PC counterparts with 3 and 4 shots respectively

[hot ingot]

its just rare to meet a good t77 most are realy bad

[dense wave]

Rip my Somua i guess

[hot ingot]

somua was already RIP before the others came to the shop ☠️

[dense wave]

Still better than its AMX counterpart

[hot ingot]

pssss dont ruin the WG shop sale

[wise moth]

50 100 used to be better than Somua, but WG ruined it by nerfing the mobility

[lyric copper]

and then they buffed the 50 100s armour…

wg making more tanks for the moron

[hot ingot]

btw i was tempted to buy the amx today until i found out that shell reload boost is not possible

[thorny smelt]

More of an average Chinese heavy. It's well-armored though. You can get some easy Aces with that tank.

[wise moth]

Honestly, it takes some skill to use that turret armor buff. Even a good player would have significant difficulty in finding a place to hide the enormous paper hull

[lyric copper]

it takes less now because WG don’t balance on stats or to make the tank fun and fair to play/play against

they balance it for noobs and morons

you can see this trend in making tanks easier and easier to play with the current best 2 heavy lines

[meager cedar]

Mmm nice stats

[solid gate]

Anyone remember this 1% chance tank?

[oak pollen]

Kpf50t?

[solid gate]

@oak pollen yes it is

It like no one remember it since this tank extremely rare in T10 battles like 1/100-200 match

[opaque flicker]

Yeah, good mobility, okay armor, great gun, it's in the mega containers I think

[empty helm]

And a weird turret

[solid gate]

And almost 4000 dpm that can vanish any meds or lts if they stand still

[oak pollen]

It's leopard with 350 alpha & better armor especially front turret

Use to have same DPM with leopard until leopard get alpha buff to 360

[opaque flicker]

Its actually one of the tanks I want, along with the AMX 30 B

[misty wing]

way less than 1%

[ocean nebula]

Should I grind the 121 or the e50m or the tvp?

[ancient iron]

genuinely thought the E75 TS had a larger gun than it actually has.... it looks much bigger than a 105mm

[hollow belfry]

All three

[distant nymph]

Is the 121 good still?

[calm inlet]

you mean 0.04% chance

[night ridge]

Im struggling to get silver coins

Since Some Players Rush Like Mad Cow And Enemy Team Gets The Advantage

[flint bear]

Stock emil 1=headache

[gilded badge]

Btw is my e3 the only one that has a magnetic ammorack? Every game I lose the ammorack at least 1 time.

[hollow belfry]

It is, and the line as a whole is good as long as you have some free exp around for the T9’s modules

[meager cedar]

It’s 1%? Thought it was 0.04%

[empty helm]

What's the difference between Hellcat and Super Hellcat

[copper swan]

tier and statistics

[hollow notch]

Ammo is in the lower plate. The only place you can realistically get damaged frontally is where everyone is targeting.

[distant nymph]

Any tips on the Ju-To? Just got it and free XP-ed the turret, first battle left in 1v5 bc it was so sluggish. Hating it for now, does it get better with the top gun and engine? As for now I see it has relatively poor armor and low pen. Or is is just not good and I have to bear it till I get the tier 8?

[flint bear]

you have to suffer for tier 8

[distant nymph]

well there were some tier 7s I enjoyed, this one's not becoming one of them for sure

[pallid flame]

Blaze

[flint bear]

maxed emil is goated

[hot ingot]

playing emil and getting mines is goated

[violet timber]

320 alpha*

[lofty gust]

What tier 8 tank is good I got 50% off discount and 60k free xp

[flint bear]

heavy?

[lofty gust]

Any

[flint bear]

53 tp,but maxed

[distant nymph]

I really enjoyed many tier 8s: FV301, AMX 13 90, P44 Pantera, T69, Pershing, T32, M-III Yoh, Tiger 2, Caernarvon, 53TP and I've heard the Chi-Se is good too

[lofty gust]

Ok Chise is OP on Bf

[flint bear]

Chise is op only vs 7 tier

[flint bear]

Idk how you guys enjoyed 13 90 after 75

Same tank but weaker

[distant nymph]

I like chasing and clipping low health wounded targets, got 3 kills one time using this tactic

[mighty cosmos]

on 2k for an ace with the Hellcat?- something seems like hoax :l

[violet timber]

Chi-Se is pretty OP in general

It’s like a Type 71 at tier 8, but the gun is actually good for the tier. It is also bigger though

[mighty cosmos]

isn't the chise like an overall better tiger2?

[violet timber]

Kind of

[mighty cosmos]

explains why it's such a pain.. also - the lower plate weakspot reminds of something like badgers lower plate.. cuz it seems like only the middle can be penned.. not sure though, i've only played against it in meds

[flint bear]

Great gun, but turret is easily penable buy tier 8

[flint bear]

Yeah, tiger 2 is so overrated tbh

[mighty cosmos]

i wouldn't say it's overrated, it's just above the average and f2p-ers are hyping it

[violet timber]

Not really, just wiggle

[flint bear]

This’ll make things even worse

[violet timber]

It won’t

[flint bear]

You ll show more of penable part

[violet timber]

If you keeps wiggling the enemy will have trouble hitting since it’ll go from gray>red quickly

[flint bear]

Even default player will be able to catch the moment

[violet timber]

Not really. It happens so quickly that most players won’t be able to react in time. Wiggle with no pattern and it becomes harder

[flint bear]

Gray part will always stay tho

[violet timber]

No it won’t. That’s the point of wiggling.

[flint bear]

It will. The turret is too big, and it’s too bad

[violet timber]

Even at just 5 degrees it becomes strong

[flint bear]

Dude, you ll show other gray parts

[violet timber]

That’s why you wiggle so that they switch between gray and red

[flint bear]

How’s this even working on someone, I can’t imagine

[violet timber]

Against an IS-3, which has an average heavy tank pen of 225mm, just 2 degrees is enough to make one cheek red. Wiggle quickly and they’ll have no shot at getting through

If they aim at the other cheek, just turn your turret the other way

[flint bear]

Is 3 has 225? Isn’t it 215? The only tier 8 heavy with 225 I played on is 53 to

What’s the name of app though

[violet timber]

Armor inspector, and it is 225

[flint bear]

I have a question about Emil 1, his turret is more armoured when looking up, or down?

[empty helm]

Down ofc

[thorny smelt]

Hulldown + gun depression

[empty helm]

• 1920 DPM

[violet timber]

😂

[hollow notch]

If you are in an emil 1 and you are looking up at an enemy vehicle, you are giving them a very easy shot at you.
The armor of the turret is completely reliant on the slope of the armor, and looking up flattens it out.

[flint bear]

Oh. I just seen a guy doing this, but looking down shows the weak part of turret

[flint bear]

Buff 112 2 for me pls.

[violet timber]

It doesn’t need a buff

[flint bear]

I wasn’t saying this serious, 112 2=good tier 8

Only gun is awful

[plucky summit]

@brittle canyon A tier 6 light tank with 90mm frontal armor? Sheeeesh

[brittle canyon]

kekw

[plucky summit]

How to make Chaffee irrelevant 101

[brittle canyon]

ok thats a little mistake over there, it was supposed to be the turret frontal armor like y'know, the gun mantlet

[plucky summit]

I was hoping you only meant effective armor but the hull doesn’t look very angled 😅

[brittle canyon]

nah that was pure mistake lol

[plucky summit]

Rip

[brittle canyon]

should've been like idk, 50mm of armor

but yeah, u caught me lackin 😩

[plucky summit]

Dw, I was lackin too. I forgot to color the shell types in the armor effectiveness

[lone sphinx]

Do shells drop lower than aim point with distance and slowness like a rifle or does the aiming take this all into consideration?

[plucky summit]

The gun does automatically aim upwards to lob the shell to hit the center of your reticle. Or at least, the trajectory implies that

[lone sphinx]

ok thanks

[plucky summit]

👍

[foggy spire]

Buff the Foch 155 by removing Cupola and adding 40mm of frontal armor.

[flint bear]

Bruh Foch is good already.

[plucky summit]

Please think.

[foggy spire]

But I can get penned by almost any T10 even at long range.

[plucky summit]

I know that you need to move away from 750 alpha in tier 8, but noticing that this is an obnoxious buff is a starting jump

[foggy spire]

But, it’s supposed to be a yolo wagon. Besides, it still has bad traverse, bad accuracy, and terrible track wheels even with the buff. It’ll at least make it tankier.

[plucky summit]

The upper plate will literally demand 374mm HEAT with no angle at all. 335mm with AP, 357mm with APCR

A yolowagon isn't made to be that strong

[foggy spire]

Obj 263 has similar armor to the proposed buff, and it has better traverse speed. Yet it’s not considered OP since bad accuracy and a weak lower plate/ engine deck.

[plucky summit]

263 has 354mm effective against HEAT on the upper structure 😐

[pallid flame]

no

[plucky summit]

So what makes Foch not OP then, if you give it this buff?

[foggy spire]

38 degrees of traverse even with equipment, very poor dispersion, easily tracked road wheels, and a weak lower plate. Also no gun depression at 5 degrees.

[plucky summit]

So you're not buffing the lower plate?

[foggy spire]

No. Only the upper plate and removing the cupola on top.

[plucky summit]

Still would be obnoxious to penetrate for an assault TD

[foggy spire]

But it’s easy to circle in a medium or even a mobile heavy.

[plucky summit]

Getting circled is a skill issue, tbh
You've been outplayed if you get circled

[foggy spire]

Usually my team evaporates around me.

[plucky summit]

That's not the Foch's fault

[foggy spire]

Well the OBJ 263 is much harder to circle because insane traverse speed. So balances it out.

[plucky summit]

Ok

[pallid lintel]

Yoooo

[plucky summit]

The better approach is to keep the cupola, at least, but buff the gun instead

[pallid flame]

no

[plucky summit]

Okay, buff the armor, not my problem 🤷‍♂️

[pallid flame]

no

[plucky summit]

Well, I said better approach, not the best

[pallid flame]

no

[plucky summit]

Very useful individual.

[foggy spire]

The gun is really derpy, and it’s alpha is meh. Maybe slower reload of clip but more alpha and accuracy.

[opaque flicker]

Isnt there a video leak of an actual Sturmtiger being tested?

Like this looks pretty legitimate, even if its from 4 years ago
https://youtu.be/e-7yrwAdRaQ

[plucky summit]

That looks so terribly balanced that I don't think it's legitimate at all x-x

[opaque flicker]

Lmao ikr, tested but not added

[balmy compass]

fake

[neat fog]

Hello
Anyone want to play Maus vs kv2?

[plucky summit]

IS-2Sh > Maus vs KV-2 HE

[neat fog]

yess only 2 Maus vs 7 Kv2

[lyric copper]

all it really needs is a reverse speed buff and a small traverse buff

[neat fog]

Hey
Anyone want to play kv2 vs Maus?

[ancient iron]

just got a Mk VI chieftain from buying a Lucky VI container and having the funniest string of luck I've ever seen

[solid gate]

my dream of consumption is to own the Chief MK. 6 and the AMX 30b, I love modern looking tanks

[ancient iron]

HOLY COW I have a lot of low tier tanks because I am a collector.... and my MS-1 had a birthday today.... aaaaaand uhhh I get it's tier 2 so I was kinda kicking puppies (even if I was bottom tier).... but I just got 1651 damage, ranger top gun, high caliber, Kolobanov's medal, Orlik's medal, and Raseiniai Heroes' medal

[pallid flame]

Ok

[balmy compass]

What a incredibly meaningful response

[ocean nebula]

Dang can only grind one like which one should be first

[lyric copper]

if you have the free exp for stock modules, the TVP line should be first

[safe cedar]

AMX 30b isn't even remotely modern. That thing was borderline obsolete when it entered service lol.

It has an amazing cupola though probably best I've been inside of imo.

[wanton marlin]

Then you should love the Carro 45 ton

[solid gate]

“modern looking tanks”

Actually all the tanks in the game are obsolete, but you understand that i mean the MBT concept and more sophisticated designs

[safe cedar]

That's not necessarily true, if you account for the in-game adjustments then it would be quite to the contrary.

[slate wren]

? still be obsolete none the less.

[safe cedar]

A 120mm gun that reloads in 2.5 seconds is far from obsolete.

[slate wren]

main battle tanks got better gun mobility and armor. all the tanks in game gave up something to excel in another. also a 2.5 second gun is only due to an unrealistic auto loader.

[safe cedar]

Not really tanks Ingame are extremely fast and accurate. For example from my experience with them AMX 13s aren't even remotely as fast as the game would have you think.

[slate wren]

put them in real life with the same states and they will still be ripped to shreds. by modern tank ofc.

[safe cedar]

Idk that's debatable like I said, but the tanks ingame are already far removed from real life.

[slate wren]

true.

[safe cedar]

For example the AMX 30b and leopard 1 are borderline identical irl.

[ocean nebula]

ok

[hollow notch]

You might want to rethink that accuracy comment.
Blitz has unrealistically close range combat.

[safe cedar]

I'd rather not, considering 500m is pretty normal for ww2 Era weaponry. And to be able to consistently hit shots at 300m with near 100% garuntee is already more than these tanks can do irl.

Range at which tank warfare occurs also is extremely subjective and depends on crew, the tank, fire control systems, surrounding landscape, and the target. For example in the jungles of veitnam tanks were not making hits off at 1000m+.

[hollow notch]

Ah yes
A forest

Ww2 German tanks were able to reliably hit things at thousands of meters.

In blitz 600 meters with the most accurate tanks gets sketch.

Yes an jungle will indeed limit vision.
A jungle is also a horrible place for a tank in the first place.

[violet timber]

500m was close range, even for WW2

2k+ was usually what tanks were engaging at, and experience gunners got quite good at hitting shots at those ranges

[hollow notch]

Yes, on the move accuracy in blitz is better, but actually aimed shots not the kv2 which was a yeet a shell irl are gonna hit.

[violet timber]

^^^ A jungle is a horrible place for a tank, which is why you see a lot more canister rounds being used. Tanks wouldn’t expect to fight other tanks, so they went after infantry instead. Tank v tank combat was actually rather uncommon.

[safe cedar]

When you hit a 2m ×2m from 2 kilometers with a pre 1950 tank let me know!

[violet timber]

Ask any experienced gunner from that era!

Sherman’s even had a gyro meaning they could technically be fully accurate on the move as well! (If the tankers bothered to learn how to use it)

[safe cedar]

I would I they weren't dead, I have a family member who was a Sturmgeschutz commander, farthest shot his assualt gun made was around 300m

Hitting something at 2k meters is ridiculously hard. Especially with rudimentary optics. On the Russian steppe while your are immobile, yes it is possible, but in the vast majority of cases that's far from reality. At 2k meters it as much luck as it is skill.

[violet timber]

Most tanks were shooting while immobile. It was how they were the most accurate. And only tank that could accurately shoot on the move was the Sherman.

[safe cedar]

It couldn't shoot accurately on the move really it just had the ability to shoot on the move during combat at all tbh.

[violet timber]

Besides, most combat in blitz is not across the map, it is brawls in which tanks are mere meters apart. Combat that close only happened in cities.

[safe cedar]

It wasn't until the 80s when otm fighting became a viable tactic.

[violet timber]

The gyroscopic stabilizer the Sherman had let it shoot accurately as long as the tank was below 15mph

[hollow notch]

So...
I guess gun tests mean nothing

Sadly I no hablo russia

[safe cedar]

Very true blitz is close, but people laughably overstate the accuracy of ww2 tanks especially Germans.

[violet timber]

All tanks weren’t as accurate in the field as they were on the range. The fact is though, German guns were incredibly accurate in general.

[safe cedar]

That Is correct gun test mean absolutely nothing. In gun tests the soviets could peirce the Tiger B's, but their is no evidence of this happening in combat.

[violet timber]

That’s probably because tanks didn’t fight each other all that much

Aside from the few known big tank battles, it really didn’t happen that often

[safe cedar]

If that was the case then tank destroyers wouldn't be built and German tanks wouldn't have sacrificed high explosive power for anti tank preformance.

[violet timber]

American tanks only met the Tiger 3 times.

[safe cedar]

so? That is completely irrelevant and doesn't relate to your unfounded claims worshipping German accuracy and attempt to sell WW2 equipment as able to reliably hit shots from several kilometers.

[violet timber]

Tank v tank combat was not very common. It was mainly tank v infantry

[violet timber]

I am not worshipping German accuracy, I am just pointing out how it was rather good. And there is proof above that tank guns were accurate out to multiple kilometers.

[safe cedar]

On the late western and pacific maybe, that is complete rubbish if we take into account the north african, 1940 france campaign, and eastern front you would find armour on armour engagements to be relatively common.

[violet timber]

Even looking at those campaigns, you see much more infantry v tank than tank v tank

[plucky summit]

Someone arguing that Blitz was closely accurate in terms of engagement range and accuracy? 😳

[hollow notch]

Furry movie 100% accurate

[violet timber]

Blitz is an arcade game with rng determining where a shell goes. Real life is real life with skill determining where the shell goes

[safe cedar]

no, just calling bs on the idea that ww2 tanks can reliably hit shots 2km away

[plucky summit]

If they couldn’t, then why tank? 😊

[violet timber]

@safe cedar

[safe cedar]

That's russian accuracy tests they are conducted differently from western accuracy test only the shots that hit/and are close are counted, by russian standards the kalashnikov was "very accurate".

[violet timber]

Tiger armor too strong pls nerf 🤪

[violet timber]

It’s also accurate according to the Germans

[safe cedar]

Like I said this is on a range in a controlled scenario and as such it's more or less worthless.

[plucky summit]

Yeah, you’ll never find a target to shoot at in real battle conditions :p

[violet timber]

Here’s the Sherman’s 75mm at 1k

[safe cedar]

I really don't want to say this agian, but this is on a range, or controlled scenario.

[violet timber]

The range/controlled scenario is all we have.

Here’s some not so controlled scenarios

[safe cedar]

I have some stuff if I can dig around and find it, it's from like isreali-arab war though.

[violet timber]

Mainly the “second shot” part.

[safe cedar]

Those are at 1 km fyi which is completely possible and not uncommon. 2km imo is extremely sketchy and generally impossible in combat without luck.

[violet timber]

You’re clearly very set in your “tank has to be close to hit another tank” mindset, so I shall no longer try to persuade you otherwise. Have a good night.

[safe cedar]

You have to take into consideration the target is not given in actual combat the commander must first manage to locate the enemy, the gunner must manage to carefully line up a shot while being shot at and having adrenaline pumping through his veins. And under those conditions yeah tanks hit shots at 500-700m easily.

[violet timber]

The tank isn’t always being shot at. 99 times out of 100, if you’re in the tank that’s shot at first, you’re already dead. The other tank has managed to fire on you, adjust, and are now aiming to hit you again before you’ve even located them.

[safe cedar]

That is true.

[violet timber]

That means, even at 2 kilometers, the tank to fire first probably has 3 free rounds to range the other tank and take it out, if not more.

[safe cedar]

but while you are right ww2 tanks are capable of hitting shots accurately at extremely long ranges, under combat conditions I severely doubt that is the case.

[ancient iron]

WOW the chieftain has bad pen

when even the lower pike plate of an IS-7 is red.... YIKES

guessing it's a tank where Cali is a must use

[safe cedar]

Not really you probably where just at bad angle

[ancient iron]

perfectly flat on, also had the \ of the pike where I was at an angle where it was flat and couldn't pen that either

[plucky summit]

That’s just APCR being worse than AP

[split briar]

he probably was at a bad angle, but chiefs pen is actually shit. apcr calibrated premium pen is around 326 or smtnh

[foggy spire]

Tanks had poor long range capabilities beyond 1 km since the sights weren’t as advanced. The guns may kill at much further than 2km like the 12.8cm German AT gun, but getting a killing shot was rather rare at long ranges.

Chieftain MK 6 vs Type 71?

[split briar]

chieftain has better gun and mobility, type has better armor and traverse..

[rigid thunder]

the type is significantly better

[solid gate]

should I sell this I had this for half a year

[flint bear]

Do you need it?

[solar turtle]

Free tank?

[solid gate]

I have vii tank

do I need it?

[solid gate]

Shermans are cockroaches

I would use this sherman,i feel like it's better

[flint bear]

Tier 4💀

[distant nymph]

Why not keep it even as a collectible?

[viral falcon]

M6 ace. I believe it'd be the highest damage with this tank on hall of fame in 2022.

[solid gate]

60TP: Should I drop Fuel or Oil for protective kit?

[flint bear]

Both of them

[violet timber]

Why would you drop both for 1 thing?

[unkempt heron]

bro wz121, certified chinese made

[solid gate]

I'm not good enough for WZ-120 stock

[flint bear]

Food.

[violet timber]

99% sure they already have food

[unkempt heron]

then your not good enough for the chinese bias :v

[solid gate]

Why would I want double food?

[flint bear]

Because it’s food.

Drop fuel.

[violet timber]

Big food, gear oil, and big fuel is perfectly fine on the 60TP as well

[flint bear]

Ammorack💀💀 it needs protection

[violet timber]

Just don’t Show the ammo rack lmao

[flint bear]

🥰 dude what.

[solid gate]

Well I want to run AR + Tungsten combo, I don't think I can take 20 second reload cuz ammo rack damage very well

[violet timber]

I run Adrenaline and Tung, literally just stay hulldown and the ammo rack isn’t a problem

[solid gate]

Thanks, last question: so should I go for enhance armour or extra hp?

[flint bear]

Armour

[violet timber]

I personally use HP as there isn’t really anything to enhance with the armor.

[flint bear]

Upper armor plate will suffer

[violet timber]

EA doesn’t really change that

[flint bear]

It will, some ats won’t be able to pierce it

Believe me.

[violet timber]

You go from 120>125. It really won’t change all that much aside from maybe 1 shell every once in a while. HP does a lot more for you

Without EA, just using 4 degrees of gun depression gives you ~400mm effective

[solid gate]

So at that point, lower plate would be more of determine factor. Thanks for the help, I will go with HP

[violet timber]

Lower plate is weak with or without EA 🤷‍♂️

[night ridge]

Bro why i can't play with low tier tank (1 And 2 ) because i want to unlock a tiger tank but the matchmaking taking too long

Is there any solution how to play the low tier tank

[violet timber]

Don’t, free xp them

[night ridge]

I brought the first tank of German

Bt the problem is the matchmaking taking too long

[distant nymph]

the matchmaker takes a long time because very few people are playing low tier tanks

[night ridge]

Some people said if i change the control scheem the matchmaking Will be fast

[violet timber]

Just free xp up to tier 4/5

[heady galleon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/642061841723555840/1014724009578995733/unknown.png got the M60 from this, is it good? I haven’t played the M48 for play style reference

[frosty meteor]

M60 good

[frosty meteor]

M60 just like m48 pro max

[heady galleon]

hah great then

[abstract onyx]

Anything i should buy in the shop?

[solid gate]

Delete all smasher players

[frosty meteor]

Delete me lol

[opaque flicker]

I'm over halfway on certificates for the dreadnought, is it good?

[lyric oriole]

It's pretty OK, gun is good, armor is decent, it's a good assault tank

[hollow notch]

No gun arc

Suddenly the rating changes from good assault tank to useless tank.

[flint bear]

Dred is good only vs tier 6

[solid gate]

hi, i have a question for you. do you think it's worth getting the pass for the new season that started today? (the one with the enforcer tank)

[plucky summit]

That… should be expected of a tank? I expect a tier 6 to perform badly against a tier 7 🤷‍♂️

[night citrus]

it has better reload but worse aim time, but the aim time can be compensated with equipment and food, so imo looks good

[solid gate]

actually the tank looks awesome

[plucky summit]

It's the transitional tank for Shadowhunter 😂
They just get darker and darker now

[solid gate]

i understood

[plucky summit]

"Alright guys I'm sure if we just make the entire turret black for now, then they won't be too surprised by our next tank being mostly black"

[solid gate]

Whaat should i do while playing t34-85,and should i grind?

[solid gate]

Which Tier 10 Tanks are "Must have"?

[violet timber]

Type 71.

[solid gate]

i have, which other tanks

Leopard 1

thx

[hollow notch]

What

4202 is what you want if you want a mobile med with a spicy gun, not a leo

[violet timber]

TVP

[fresh vine]

my favourites are, 50b, leo1, prog 65, t100lt and jag e100

[violet timber]

3 of those are kind of irrelevant

[fresh vine]

theyre not the most efficient, theyre just the ones i find most fun

[hollow notch]

Hell yea
A fellow prog65 simp

[violet timber]

Prog 65 is just 👌

Beautiful little Italian tank

[meager cedar]

You prolly like carro then

[violet timber]

I’m thinking about getting it

[hollow notch]

That 4th shell kills the gun

Will barely have 2 shells by the time the fight starts

[solid gate]

It's like 6000 dmg/minute come on

[violet timber]

The Smasher?

[balmy compass]

must be playing Big Boss

[violet timber]

Guess they’ve got a point

[balmy compass]

true

[hollow notch]

Wow
Smasher got another buff?

[ancient iron]

goddamn I love my SConq

[frank pecan]

Is this vehicle good?

[meager cedar]

Think Type has better mobility overall with the speed equipment, with that in mind chief has better gun while type has better amour and speed.

So Type > Chief but chief is still good

[hot ingot]

Lockheed Skunkworks laughs about it

[frank pecan]

why

[frank pecan]

no

[solid gate]

it would be so cool if it had a legendary camouflage for the Leopard 1 with the extra armor on the mantlet, sideskirts, an MG-3 on the commander's hatch and the infrared searchlight

[balmy compass]

Sideskirts would be odd to implement as only cosmetic

[solid gate]

As an M41D owner, I say that's true.

[valid gale]

That’s a different turret

[opaque flicker]

Tiger II with spaced turret armor

[balmy compass]

So you want a Tiger II shielded

[opaque flicker]

Kinda like the PZ IV. G

Also I dont want that in the game, just wondering what it would be like

[sleek apex]

It would look weird since it has more than needed protection frontally already during ww2.

[opaque flicker]

It would probably be more powerful than it already is

[sleek apex]

You are overstating spaced armor, they are usually applied on german tanks only to have protection against hollowed charges (aka HEAT, usually from Bazookas), And wouldnt really do significant effect against ap rounds.

Some also have on the roof (like on some very late prod panthers) for protection against air attacks.

[solid gate]

Seriously, these side skirts did not influence the gameplay because they only cover the upper part of the running gear and are made of a material that is not metallic, according to the military of my country (which still uses the Leopard 1) the skirts are made of a rubbery material.

I just find it curious that in reality, as it is not made of a very resistant material, the side skirts do not serve as protection or have any apparent use, although this makes the tank much more beautiful and stylish in my opinion.

[opaque flicker]

I know what spaced armor is for, it would make it harder for HEAT to penatrate the turret is what I'm saying

[solid gate]

Is the same price to equip a tank the same price to buy it?

[opaque flicker]

The higher the tier the more expensive, it nearly costed me 3 mil to equip my T30 when the tank is only 2.6 mil

[solid gate]

Daium

[modest bison]

my insane budget iMovie edits and insane display of Cromwell b gun depression

[opaque flicker]

Stock Hetzer is the worst TD, unlike the T28 Prot, it doesn't have a turret

[empty helm]

Ofc Hetzer is a tier 4 and t28 proto is a tier 8

[opaque flicker]

Still really bad for its tier

[solid gate]

My first Ace was in a Hetzer

[balmy compass]

Yeah I can see that, but in-game sideskirts also count as spaced armor and since the Leo is very easy to hit with HE people might get confused which would then have sideskrits only on one legendary camo but not the others, unless you make the skirt very transparent like other cosmetic stuff when in sniper mode to give the clear impression that it’s only cosmetic

[rigid rover]

1, 2, 3, 4
ranks are going out the door
5, 6, 7, 8
they are trash and i rly hate

[plucky summit]

Just don’t rank up your tank 🤷‍♂️

[thorny smelt]

Rank is useless anyway

[viral falcon]

But what's annoying is that this is the first thing to appear when I want to check an elite vehicle's stats, not even mentionig that I can't see my xp amount because of that bullshi...

[thorny smelt]

Heck yeah. I just want to check the vehicle specifications but this Rank is getting in the way

[vale maple]

Tbh, ranking up tanks are more for people with huge stocks of credits who don’t have a use for them. Albeit, it’s kinda a lazy solution but it works.

I wouldn’t think too much of it. Treat it like an avatar or something, just for the looks

I’ve already have people ask me if I’m good because they see my level 40 action x.

[plucky summit]

Went up to rank 44 on my Lowe just to find out I haven't played it enough 🥲

[vale maple]

Lol that hurts. It’s a crazy amount for just one tank to get 50

[oak pollen]

No

It show how much you pay

[vale maple]

It doesn’t take much to get credits. I just amassed wealth from playing. I never really spent it on apcr. Or other things. Now I can spend it on whatever

Like Apcr for example

[tepid stump]

Well, depends on how you play

[hot ingot]

went up on rank2 on my shark, just by accident

[empty helm]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-fall-bryan-cranston-cry-dying-gif-7619047

[oak pollen]

But still, it show little

[hot ingot]

i start to get better in tiger2

[vale maple]

I’ve personally never payed for the game. If I’ve every used money it was from gift cards I got from people. Now if you are talking a mass amount of premium or collectables in someone’s garage then that’s when it shows

[solid gate]

That’s better? 🤭 did you play it stock? Cause if I so I understand, the stock turret completely ruins the whole point of the tank

[oak pollen]

Pay player will more likely to spend credit on rank

[hot ingot]

was just joking not my stats 😛 i find it just hard to belive someone has 500dmg avarage on tiger2 😛

[vale maple]

I mean would you? It’s a rank that doesn’t do anything. It’s complete waste of money. They would rather use it on gold shells or something.

[solid gate]

Lol right, well I probably have something like that lol 😳

[hot ingot]

only stock gun and 75% crew 😛

sorry 76% crew

[oak pollen]

I won't but some will

[solid gate]

Nice one, stock gun doesn’t seem too bad, pen is 203 I think so decent in tier eight, and has nice dpm but bad alpha of course

[hot ingot]

tiger2 is soooo strong

[solid gate]

Yeah strong armour lol

any tips for tiger 2?

[hot ingot]

dont show your side bounce all and win, its one of the tanks that dont need tips because its so easy to do well in it

[solid gate]

so go charge??

[hollow sequoia]

tiger fans when the enemy grows a braincell and dabs the 2 key

[solid gate]

kamikaze is just stupid

being within a line of sight of like 5 enemies

[flint bear]

If your enemies are pickles, who don’t use gold

[thorny smelt]

ISU-152 wants to know your location

[solid gate]

Affirm

[tepid stump]

ative

[nova birch]

Is the t110e5 a worth it grind?

Or am i just making a horrible choice once more?

[rigid thunder]

the E5 is pretty mediocre, grind isn't horrible

[solid gate]

finally a Räumpanzer offer, I waited so long to get this tank

[nova birch]

So its in the middle of being ez and pain in 6 to grind

[rigid thunder]

some tanks are good (T29, T32), some are pretty mediocre (M103), and the stock grind is as terrible as you would expect

[nova birch]

I can hear my free xp wallet crying bc ima skip that stock part

[terse swift]

Before Italian TD comes, what TD that has autoloader gun

[nova birch]

Foch

[rigid thunder]

4005

[nova birch]

But what about the m110e5 itself is it easy to use, mediocre or needs a good amount of skill to use?

[rigid thunder]

it's not very easy to play, and it's still mediocre when used well. Gets outclassed completely by the type 71

[terse swift]

Woah tier 10 Italian TD is in Armour Inspector

[nova birch]

New update??

[terse swift]

Dunno, looking at the name of the tank its in premium/collector state

[empty helm]

Because it's still in testing

[gilded badge]

What would you say is the most underrated t8 prem. Medium? I think it's the 59 patton

[solid gate]

How would you buff KpfPz 70 for it to fit tier X?

I would start:
Buffing engine to 1100 horse powers but keep speed capped at 45kmph, give it better stabilization stats and bigger alpha, of like 650 standard, 540 premium, and 825 HE, while keeping reload, accuracy, and everything else the same.

[thorny smelt]

Make it 69 kmph max speed

[flint bear]

980 he damage, keep old armor and increase reload time

[thorny smelt]

You mean reduce reload time?

[fierce abyss]

Does the KpfPz 70 really need acceleration rather than high top speed...?

[flint bear]

I’m adding things to his words dam 💀

[fierce abyss]

🗿I guess

[flint bear]

So ask him about speed

[split oasis]

why is M60 sell price so low, is this a glitch? @exotic fog

[exotic fog]

It was a free gift originally ...
Don't expect high compensation for things that were given away?

[flint bear]

10 gold for rocket Sheridan woohoo

[hollow notch]

Why would you sell the emsickstee

[flint bear]

Mani

[tepid stump]

PZ S35

[eternal mica]

Let’s goo!!!

[agile ivy]

Bro I bought that thing for 15K gold, don't tell me if I sell I get that 😳 😭

[eternal mica]

Finally I got 1k coins off ads

[flint bear]

500 to go

[eternal mica]

A month or so

[tepid stump]

20 days of gold ads=1k gold

Literally one of your only ways to get free gold, and it's "not worth"?

[split oasis]

the M60 teir 10, when was the free

[sleek apex]

It was given to certain players for free during December 22, 2016 (aka the M60 Fiasco).

[lyric copper]

they are a member of r/tanks and are tired of seeing people asking about M60s

[sleek apex]

Hey guys what tank is this?
[Image of either M47, M48, or M60]

[lyric copper]

[Extreme Anger]

[balmy compass]

confuzzled

[solid gate]

What do you think about t29?

[hot ingot]

great tier7 hulldown monster

[glad flax]

Is the Leopard 1 a good tier 10?

[plucky summit]

It’s not easy to play, but it can farm lots of damage

[lyric copper]

Leopard 1 is overshadowed, good tank, but other tanks are just more viable in the current meta

[wanton marlin]

I hate to say it again but blitz is going down the toxic op hulldown meta. Now hulldown is a already a meta BUT blitz is getting to the point where the hulldown meta is toxic. The Minotaurro (idk how it’s spelled) is an example. Plus is JUST got added to pc which is a game that has already pushed the hulldown meta too far. Wg please give the Minotaurro (which I know will be nerfed after super test) bigger cupola and a little bit less gun depression to its strong but not impenetrable to experienced/decent players. Anyways sorry this is so long and I’m gonna get oofed by the responses lol

[lyric copper]

nah the gundep is fine

the cupola isnt.

you wanna pen it reliably with a HT? use gold

[wanton marlin]

Another issue. Gold spamming

[lyric copper]

no, the issue is that WG have made tanks that basically require prammo to have a chance of fighting them equally

V4, Type 71, and now the Mino.

You wanna pen them reliably? Prammo, whilst they can often pen you with standard

[wanton marlin]

Why is wg adding the Italian tds right after they come into wot pc?

[lyric copper]

The reason I'm more okay with the M4 54 and C1B is that they have to look in one direction to be strong and have other obvious drawbacks.

[wanton marlin]

Same. But why mino right when added into pc?

[lyric copper]

no idea

[wanton marlin]

Wg why 😦

[plucky summit]

Because it was a popular concept

[balmy compass]

ah yes, so much armor only good pen heavies and TDS with prammo can pen
while also being a turreted TDS that can whack you hard with high alpha along with having enough pen to not use standard is most situations

[plucky summit]

Does anyone know the natural turret decline angle?

[lyric copper]

basically the best parts of an E3 and E4 but with 263/V4 level gun stats

[balmy compass]

Watch players just facehug because of the bad accuracy but nobody except Ho-Ri would be able to penetrate anyway 💀

[wanton marlin]

💀

[plucky summit]

The turret isn’t that hard to pen

[lyric copper]

use prammo guys

[violet timber]

Just hit the spot under the gun 🤪

[balmy compass]

🤨

[balmy compass]

Damm, even the cupolas are strong…
Just like the E3 damm

[violet timber]

It’s basically just a better E3/E4

[wanton marlin]

Can be overmatched by 120+ mm (assuming mino player isn’t useing enhanced amor)

[violet timber]

I guess it’s something

[balmy compass]

Isn’t that the hull roof, would be pretty hard to hit anyway

[valid gale]

Minotauro is old? It didn’t “just” get added it’s also terrible as it has really bad DPM and penetration I’m thinking rhinoceronte

[violet timber]

It’s actually the underside of the turret, meaning it’ll never be hit in general

[balmy compass]

I don’t think DPM matters if you are completely invincible to everything except HE splash

[wanton marlin]

Dosnt matter if mino player can’t do much. If you can’t kill the mino, it’s team can just push while your team is trying to shoot the mino.

[violet timber]

I’d say this is a pretty okay gun

The real struggle for the mino is the mobility

[balmy compass]

Huh, would have thought it was at least a 150mm caliber

[wanton marlin]

Exactly. Thank you. You can have only 200 dpm but if the enemy can’t pen you and you can (if you have 200 dpm but still has T10 penetration) then you can slowly farm the enemy at close range.

[balmy compass]

Well tbh, if your DPM is so low then the enemy team wouldn’t even care and just gang up on you at some point
But yeah I understand

[wanton marlin]

yeahh my example was a bad one XD

[violet timber]

There’s also the fact that it’s an auto-reloader meaning stored dpm is more important than actual dpm

[wanton marlin]

I’m starting to think we need to spam 183 for the B3SH splashes

I’m not even gonna bother grinding to the tier 10. All I want is the tier 6

[plucky summit]

The turret isn't angled like it should be, so you shouldn't ever practically hit that plate

It's why I'm asking for what angle the turret is at, so I can see what shells work against it

[plucky summit]

490 ain't no 150mm, those do like 600 xD
AMX M4 mle. 54 deals 480 with a 130mm

[balmy compass]

Yeah, thats why I said I thought
Kinda nice to see that it won’t slap me for 600 3 times in quick succession
Although it’s not much better cause I still can’t hit it 💀

[plucky summit]

1470 is ouch

[balmy compass]

At least if the player is dumb enough to shoot that first shell they get 18 seconds reload 💀

[thorny smelt]

130 mm my guy

[wanton marlin]

oh no wg is adding Bill top attack ATGM XDD

[spare bramble]

t54e2 equipment?

[true plover]

the tal- i mean caliban container have charm so u need 30

[ancient iron]

I am sooooo tempted to sell the T-34-2G FT...... this gun is beyond bad....

I bounced a shell off the unangled back of a Ju-To

I hit the angled section of the turret ring.... but that SHOULD have acted as a shot trap, putting the shell into the engine... guess that's not programmed in though

[knotty ice]

Can wg just pay more effort to make a circle?
This octagon cupola makes no sense when you see it is a circle in game

[empty helm]

WG didn't make armor inspector
So you can't blame them

[valid gale]

Tell me you know nothing of games without saying it

[plucky summit]

Because reducing polygons for mobile game size is soooo unimportant 🙄

[empty helm]

Finnish line when

[thorny smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/karen-rude-upset-mad-shake-gif-17495718

[knotty ice]

Learn definition of karen
Also the cupola is completely grey but it bounced 7 times in a row like red

Also shut up before saying skill issues i got 68% in tier 10 bias4

[thorny smelt]

Why blame WG if the armorinspector site is not even owned by WG? You can just contact the developers to improve the graphics.

[plucky summit]

That’s WG’s fault in terms of armor highlighting, not because of the model

[knotty ice]

Yes
And i never blamed armor inspector or stuff
Also armor hitbox details are provided by wg themselves

[plucky summit]

Actually, because the frontal area is flat, you actually got a better chance to penetrate it 🤷‍♂️

[sleek apex]

How much do you guys think the Chieftain Mk.6's starting price if it comes for sale on Blitz Fair?

[uncut void]

Obj or t62

[lyric copper]

T-62A

[thorny smelt]

Object 430U

[empty helm]

What is the meaning of the letter U

[thorny smelt]

Improved

[grand quail]

Anyone got tips on how to play stock is 8

[empty helm]

Hulldown and that's all

[brave juniper]

Think of a slow medium with a 120mm

[grand quail]

Ok.

[empty helm]

*122mm

[hollow sequoia]

bully mediums and dont rely on your hull armor
wait you said stock

id personally not touch it at all until you have enough fxp for atleast an engine and or turret

[hollow belfry]

140

[trail laurel]

277

[thorny smelt]

430U

[hollow sequoia]

261

[trail laurel]

ST-II

[foggy siren]

I have a question is the tank: tank destroyer of an upcoming event coming soon? because he interests me and looks good ?

[trail laurel]

Not sure if the upcoming event will have it or it might in crate

Or it just a camo

[foggy siren]

it seems to me that in the video of the events to come we see that it is an event to unlock it

[trail laurel]

Hmmmm maybe just wait for the event, we don't khown what wg is thinking

[foggy siren]

and for me it's not a camo because we see the rarity collection in blue on the tank

[foggy siren]

Yes

[hollow sequoia]

its a collector waffle with a 128mm, iirc its gonna be a clan event like the 50tp proto

[thorny smelt]

Just install the 12,8 cm gun on the Waffentrager Pz. IV and you're good

[sleek apex]

That one is a 2-shot autoloader though

[weak sparrow]

type 68 tips

[solid gate]

Don't have armor? Just don't get shot 🙂
By: Leopard 1 and French engineers

[weak sparrow]

i mean it has armour 🗿

[thorny smelt]

Hulldown. Use the mobility equipment for better traverse speed. Wiggle.

[foggy siren]

When ? And Its hard ?

[solid gate]

Yep

Please nerf all soviet tanks ingame .

I have all nation tanks ingame.

Atleast add function those get on fire by them selves or explode the turret without any reason.

[foggy siren]

Its hard ?

Ok

[solid gate]

what do you recommend - is 3 defender or amx defender?

[violet timber]

The only strong Japanese tank atm is the Type 71.

Okay? The turret is great, the rest of the tank is meh at best

[empty helm]

Just like any other mts

[violet timber]

The mobility is kinda bad for a med, and the gun is okay

Ho-Ri has a good gun and okay armor. What really fails it is the mobility

The pen is broken, the gun itself isn’t

[foggy siren]

And when the event

[foggy siren]

@solid gate

[thorny smelt]

Defender Mk. 1 and T28 Defender. IS-3 Defender is just living on its former glory.

[plucky summit]

For some reason I perform really well with IS-3 Defender

90% WR over the 10 battles I did, with 2,485 average damage

[lucid nacelle]

Can we get this back as an event vehicle?

[plucky summit]

Yeah, after they move it up to tier 2 and make it a collector tank 🙄

[tulip knot]

10 battles Doesn’t show much. I’d say 25 to show how the tank really does

[violet timber]

The IS-3d is pretty good right now. Basically a normal russian heavy tank bit with a 7 second reload for 3 shells

[plucky summit]

Meh, barely play Blitz anymore, I ain’t gonna waste time validating my performance 🤷‍♂️

[tulip knot]

Fair

[solemn summit]

Same with the T28d I’ve had some great games with it most are wins

[thorny smelt]

Same...

[sleek apex]

How much do you guys think the Chieftain Mk.6's starting price if it comes for sale on Blitz Fair? (Resending this cause no responses)

[balmy compass]

Probably would start at maybe 20-30k
I don’t remember what it was last time

[sleek apex]

Last year it started at 17.5k, quite expensive for a bare tank

[balmy compass]

It might be cheaper this year then

[sleek apex]

Hoping to get it below 15k

[tulip knot]

In the auction?

I bought the Dracula for 12k in the auction lol

[empty helm]

Oh hell naww

[sleek apex]

Yes

Although i could wait for few more months and buy it on a 20k bundle, i dont want the royal camo but the other stuff on the bundle might be good.

[hot ingot]

i want to buy chimera in the auction

[hazy elm]

I want the m2 medium back

[plucky summit]

Did you own it before?

[hazy elm]

Nah it was way back in the day on my old acc, sadly I forgot the password

[plucky summit]

F

[solid gate]

From the incoming Italian TD update, I don't know if I should spend my free exp on skipping the ST-I Stock grind to not let me experience the pain or spend the free exp to leap through the Italian TD lines

[sleek apex]

Encountered a carro 45t in burning games few mins ago

[oak flower]

Imagine making the super hell cat aka hellcat with extra paper on the sides and no accuracy and then make it fight tier 8s that can pen with the least amount of pen…..

[violet timber]

Super hellcat’s accuracy isn’t that much worse than the hellcats

[empty helm]

T54E3 when

[loud verge]

I prefer buying the t28 prot, bcos the t28d takes 21 sec to reload and has a 6.9 intra-clip, while the t28 prot takes 8 sec

[hollow sequoia]

the t28 prot doesnt have 1450 base hp, ok mobility, and better side armor now does it

[limpid hedge]

Why it deserve a buff?

That's true because this one have a pretty decent mobility especially for a heavy tank, but yeah it's very skill tank that's more like MT than the HT. Not the best, not the worst but balanced

[sleek apex]

Its pretty much the pre-buff IS-7

[gilded badge]

Is it worth to grind the obj.140? I already have the t62a, m48, e50m and the t100-lt

[gilded badge]

What's your opinion about the m48? I think it could receive a bit of an armor buff

[slow goblet]

Weird how below 60% average players get to be supertesters when wg balances tanks based on 65% avg user statistics

[viral falcon]

It shouldn't receive any buffs. It has a really good turret for hulldown, ok mobility and the highest dpm of 350 aplha meds.

[hazy elm]

We need this (posted in general, not mine)

[past fractal]

Minotauro American Edition

[hazy elm]

On jimmy

[solemn summit]

True true

[fierce abyss]

Cursed doomsday nightmare tier-4-tier

[wanton marlin]

Wg why lol. Foch stronk

[wanton marlin]

Any thoughts on su-101?

[hollow sequoia]

horrid

[thorny smelt]

A worse version of JagdPanther II. I suggest snipe or play as a support.

[hollow belfry]

What do you mean? The Foch really isn't all that good

[uncut patio]

Where is big willie

[manic mirage]

What tier 10 should I grind for?

[stiff cape]

Thought some of you might really like this
https://youtu.be/9K9xKFn0AE4

Sort of a beginners tour of how tanks work.

And the tanks from fury are also in that collection and he shows you them. The Sherman and tiger tanks that are from the movie, the actual tanks that were used.

There's also a centurion and a panther

Wait... Did he say which tank that was that was next to the engine? I don't remember him saying the model.

[brisk jacinth]

Jpz E100 or Fv 215b183?

Want to buy one of these

[hollow belfry]

Jageroo all the way

[naive vale]

Not sure if this belongs here but is the t28 Defender still good?

[ocean bramble]

Type 71 exists. 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

[hollow notch]

Its workable, but you are better off with an actually strong heavy tank for the same playstyle

[brave tangle]

su 101 needs a hull buff

[hollow notch]

This is what I run on practically every heavy

[viral falcon]

Why the supercharger instead of the laying drive though?

[hollow notch]

Gun laying drive is useless if you are moving, and if you aren't moving you are sitting in front of enemy guns waiting to get shot.

Supercharge at least has shell velocity which will actually [rarely] sometimes help

[viral falcon]

Yeah, but I think the reduced aim time comes handy a lot often than shell speed.

[hollow notch]

If my reticle aimed where I want it I'm pressing fire

[viral falcon]

Well, understandable, I'd still always choose faster aim circle shrinking over increased shell speed. Even that small decrease of inaccuracy over the same time can be the deciding factor of a succesful shot or a matter of who can shot first

[grim hinge]

in beta test type 71 has 2.9k dpm right

[hybrid ruin]

Oh god that would be a pain to deal with

[loud verge]

Just a jpanther II but lower profile and a literally non existent gun dispersion

[wanton marlin]

True. Has better pen tho

[loud verge]

Get rid of the enchanted tracks

[wanton marlin]

Run cali on IS-7. That thing has Awful gold pen

[hazy elm]

Even with cali it's like 320 HVAP pen 💀💀💀

[wanton marlin]

Rip

[balmy compass]

maybe he enchanted the tracks with prot IV tho

[hollow notch]

Solid nope.

If I need a fast repair, I have a repair kit.
If my tracks don't get taken off in the first place, I don't even need that.

[merry current]

lmao what it wont do anything
a stock t8 is still going to be able to take off ur tracks regardless

[hollow notch]

What

[merry current]

also running armor on every heavy? kinda sus
not to mention sc, y tf u taking that over gld

[agile ivy]

Sheridan 😈

[merry current]

if ur gonna give advice at least be right
@solid gate ur mostly correct, i would prefer vstab over refined tho for heavies, and fast consumable cooldown since u dont have any special consumables

[hollow notch]

Gun laying drive is actually useless.
Supercharge have very little use.

[merry current]

???? it decreases aim time, how is that useless

[agile ivy]

Silent -.-
It's almost nothing
Nothing too significative

[lyric copper]

you dont need sc on a sheri

ive hit a 560m crossmap in gravity, you can hit a moving target

[agile ivy]

What is sc?

[lyric copper]

supercharge

may have misunderstood you then

[agile ivy]

I am talking about armor and joking about it

Gun rammer, optics, refined gun, health points, speed and toolbox. The rest is depending on your playstyle and your personnal preferences

[hollow notch]

1: I play my heavies close range, fully aiming while reloading behind cover, peeking only the time it takes me to press fire.
Where does aim time help in the slightest.

Supercharge might actually allow you to hit something retreating into cover might (still not all that useful)

And the doubled up track equipment.
Yes, you do actually get yellow tracks. Not "any stock tier 8 will take them off"
If I need a fast repair, I'm not gonna sit for 2 seconds waiting to be shot. I'm instarepairing that with one of my 2 repair kits.
If you get caught with no repair kits and made a dangerous peek, you misplayed.
And if you get tracked and aren't going to take any damage from it, a slightly faster repair speed doesn't do all that much.

[agile ivy]

K but supercharge is for sniping, you just said you play close range sherlock.

[lyric copper]

what if youre outta repair kits, plus its not only tracks that toolbox effects

[wanton marlin]

Why are you taking the risk of snapping shots into enemies retreating into cover? Why don’t just shoot another enemy?

[hollow notch]

If you are taking that many hits that damage your modules, you may need to rethink the peeks you are making.

[lyric copper]

or maybe theyre spamming HE at me?

[wanton marlin]

You might have the velocity to hit them but not the accuracy. Remember your a heavy your accuracy wont allow for that risk

[hollow notch]

Then actually get in cover?

[lyric copper]

when i could be shooting people?

[thick trout]

Sc Vs gld sort of depends on playstyle a little, I tend to pause for a fraction and deal with bad velocity because I'm used to bad ping but I'm sure it's just as good performance wise to snap things quicker. Overall I'd probably recommend gld because it's more common for most people to want to aim than to snap.

The faster repair is kinda useless as larks said, the case where you are losing a module completely with no repair kits is pretty rare. The tracks don't do much, but it's better.

[misty wing]

I just wish the alternative to engine accelerator was better

[hollow notch]

Something to note is that I am saying this with a maxed repair crew. I don't have any issue with permatracking unless it's an at15

[agile ivy]

How would you prefer getting a fully broken track up to normal instead of having better everything? Like wtf, you wait a whole 5 seconds in the open waiting for your tracks to repair to normal when you could just or repair them or have them under critical stage which doesn't change anything from being under normal condition or almost bruh.

[solid gate]

Does anyone here know a good way to farm more credits without a premium account? I'm looking forward to playing with my first tier 10

[agile ivy]

Play premium tanks or tier 8

[wanton marlin]

Play 252u or T54e2

[solid gate]

I only make a profit when I play without provisions in my Premium tier 7 (M41D)

[wanton marlin]

How much damage are you doing on average?

[solid gate]

~ 1450-1500

[wanton marlin]

What tank are you playing?

[solid gate]

M41d, Cromwell B and Strv 74A2

[lyric copper]

do more damage and play a fun mode

[solid gate]

ok, thx

[wanton marlin]

These tanks are bad for grinding for long periods of time. Try something like Jpanther

[lyric copper]

seriously at tier 7 in burning you should be looking at 2.5-3k

in tier 7 uprising you should be doing at least 3k at a minimum

how is it hard for people to do 5k with 3 lives in tier 10 uprising though

[solid gate]

I also admit that my management hurt me when I bought tanks, I got sick of them and then I sold them and I still haven't recovered from that.

[balmy compass]

mm yes, treating gamemodes like real games as if you had stats to work on 💀

[lyric copper]

seriously though how can people get sub 3k at tier 10 with 3 lives

[agile ivy]

What the hell? Imagine suggesting a bad credit coefficient tank to someone who wants to grind credits

[lyric copper]

most tanks at tier 10 do 1k in 3-4 shots

like how is it that hard to live for 3-4 shots

[balmy compass]

Go ask those players who have 30% WR while playing tier X

[wanton marlin]

enrich the jp smh

[lyric copper]

and why do people who grind their tanks in modes not put any effort into trying to win to get more exp and credits

[agile ivy]

And how much would that be sherlock? At this point convert your gold in credits

[solid gate]

It's a tier 10, enrichment just got permanent in tier 8 below

[balmy compass]

Perhaps they don’t play the game like most of the other players, maybe they play purely for their own fun and they don’t see a need to try to win

[wanton marlin]

Playing M41 or Cromwell B for long periods of time can be exhausting.

[solid gate]

No armor moment

[lyric copper]

seriously though they could easily get to the next tank faster if they tried a little

[agile ivy]

And how would you know they will prefer playing a jpanther?

[wanton marlin]

I don’t. I suggested it

[agile ivy]

You are God.

[balmy compass]

Yeah they could, but maybe this is just a game they play when they got 10 minutes of dead time, not everyone will be fully committed for even 2 games, just look at the people who go afk after they die in gamemodes

[solid gate]

Please, stop arguing competitively.

[balmy compass]

I thought we are discussing 💀
We are sharing our points of views

[solid gate]

Ok, sorry

I'm my language "arguing" and "discussing" are the same word

Things lead me to think that to buy and equip my Leopard 1 will cost at least 12.7 million (and another 1k gold)

[agile ivy]

Yessir

Unless you wait for an event or something where you'll save credits on tank buying, crew maxing and equipment slots

[lyric copper]

true, but honestly i dont see the point of why people just give up

and how they continue to play the game despite losing more than 52%+ of their battles

like how is losing over and over fun?

[solid gate]

I'm really looking forward to playing with it, it's simply the most beautiful and aesthetic tank in the tech tree scientifically based on my opinion

[balmy compass]

The way I see it, they just play the game because they have a few minutes before something, but if they go AFK that something probably came so they dropped the game because they don’t care about it too much

[agile ivy]

Scientifically based on mine, it's the VK 72.01 (K)

[solid gate]

He looks like an iron, and the people who play from my country call it "torneirão", which means big faucet

[balmy compass]

They might also not look at their stats too much, so they don’t know how detrimental they are

[wanton marlin]

We talking about 30% in modes?

[solid gate]

maybe, yesterday I found a 35%

[balmy compass]

Theorizing why players have sub 50% WR

[solid gate]

I'm afraid my score will drop, I have ~2k battles and 61% wr

[wanton marlin]

Wg pls add this

[solid gate]

So I left my competitive side to play for myself and enjoy the game and tanks

[lyric copper]

nah im fine with people that are 48.5%+ with good average damage

48.5 is one end of the range where i'd expect bad team RNG to pull you down

52.4% is the other end, past that players start to make active decisions to win the games they play rather than be lucky with team rng

[solid gate]

As someone who loves speed (+60 km/h at least) but also loves precision (minimum 0.30), can anyone tell me if the STB-1 can offer me that? I plan on doing the line of this when I complete my Leopard 1

[lyric copper]

its got pretty good accuracy, but you can peek more knowing you have somewhat of an actual turret and -11 degrees of gundep

the leo 1's DPM is both its greatest strength and its greatest flaw in a way, it has to peek often to use it, meaning that youre easy damage for someone who pre-aims, or worse, keep aiming where you peek and therefore deny you use of your DPM

[solid gate]

-11º? 😈

[plucky summit]

Mac. Option + Shift + 8 😎

[solid gate]

This is one of the reasons why I play on medium or light tanks since I started playing. I feel short of breath, suffocated and in agony at being slow and not being able to use my weapon and mobility while my team distracts the enemies, but I never say that playing heavy tank is bad, I just don't like it.

[lyric copper]

and as the Leo 1 is so lightly armoured, TDs see you as free damage and will almost certainly focus you, meaning every shot you take you need to go unspotted again, making your DPM worthless

Effective DPM is a real thing on the Leo 1, and its often very low due to the current nature of the game

[lyric copper]

you arent playing the right heavies then

just for a quick fact, the Leo 1 reverses at -23 kph (14.29 mph apparently)

the 60TP can potentially reverse at -20kph (12.43 mph)

[balmy compass]

Its actually km/h
Which confuses me because I usually think of kp/h or mph

[lyric copper]

KM/H is science

KPH is normal

[balmy compass]

Apparently WG uses science then, because thats how they measure speed in-game

[plucky summit]

As long as you don’t say KMH you’re fine 😅

[wanton marlin]

Wg be using metric system 🤓

[lyric copper]

well they come from a country that uses it so

plus only 1 major nation uses imperial for the daily populace

[balmy compass]

Yeah 💀

[lyric copper]

like it accounts for like what, 350 million people?

most of which dont play a mobile tank game from 2014?

[solid gate]

How to be a high mobility sniper flanker:
[❌] Good gun precision [❌] Good speed (maximum and average) [❌] Good view range [❌] Good spin rate p/second [❌] Lightweight or Middleweight to keep mobility [✅] Reverse Speed

[plucky summit]

NA server would like to contribute an argument

[lyric copper]

last time i checked there are only 3 countries deranged enough to use both systems in daily life

can anyone guess which 3?

[plucky summit]

Me, myself, and I

[balmy compass]

True

[lyric copper]

countries, not individuals

[plucky summit]

You underestimate my power

[solid gate]

The imperial measurement system is outdated and difficult to count. Metric is better because it is decimal and is already used all over the world, except for countries that don't like it for any reason.

[wanton marlin]

I prefer imperial but you do you

[balmy compass]

I do wish America would change to Metric 💀
Makes more sense, like the 24 hour clock

[solid gate]

Americans use the imperial system because that's what's accepted in their country.

[plucky summit]

Both are accepted

[solid gate]

So use the metric system instead lol, it's way better

[balmy compass]

Only scientists and the military does 💀

[lyric copper]

the UK, Canada and iirc Australia are the 3 nations deranged enough to use both Metric and Imperial

[balmy compass]

Really, the UK? Honestly thought they wouldn’t use Imperial since British people keep making fun of Americans for using Metric 💀

[wanton marlin]

Wg when? Make it a tier 7 auto loader like Amx 13 75

[solid gate]

Concept 1B 75

[wanton marlin]

Kind of

[lyric copper]

in the UK our satnavs give out distances in yards and miles

our milk is measured in pints

but we measure sugar in grams

sometimes we measure people in kilos or stones and pounds

@balmy compass we invented imperial.

[balmy compass]

Oh
🗿

[wanton marlin]

Got this from a friend. My friend also says that this vehicle was in a paper of some kind in Russia Swiss and America

[balmy compass]

The turret looks like it was chopped in half from front view

[solid gate]

What, Cyrillic?

[wanton marlin]

Wg could of made the char Mle 75 a Russian light in WoT pc or American

[solid gate]

the only thing I use the imperial system is to talk about height, because our height varies up to 2 cm during the day. But this is now off topic so I'll have to talk about something else: Nerf Smasher pls

[lyric copper]

play a tier 8 heavy or just buy a T29 and watch them weep

[wanton marlin]

Yes and no. Nerf accuracy and nothing else. Don’t make it unplayable XD

[solid gate]

xd, ok, that's true

In 1945, a 105mm cannon was very large for land vehicles, and today he is considered medium or even small

[balmy compass]

Cause most MBTs now mount a 120-150mm cannon

[solid gate]

I have yet to see any MBT use a +150mm cannon (I repeat: yet)

[wanton marlin]

Nerf anni. Nerf armor nerf gun depression and speed. Remove the improved engine speed boost nerf it’s accuracy but buff it’s pen. Make the anni so that it has to poke farther up a ridge to shoot you and it makes it up the ridge slower so you can either run or fight it

[solid gate]

Today a monster of +70 tons can run 70 kph

[balmy compass]

Iirc Abrams has a 150mm, may be wrong tho, but I doubt anyone would mount anything bigger because of how tank combat has changed

[wanton marlin]

blitz needs more MBTs

[solid gate]

Only if Tier 11-12 was created

[balmy compass]

No it doesn’t

[solid gate]

MBT seems to be somewhat subjective, because there has been MBT without a turret (see Stridsvagn 103 or Tank-S)

[safe cedar]

AMX m4 54 needs a gun buff.

[wanton marlin]

No. Just add them as premiums. Although this could pose some issues as we would have an XM1 Abrams fighting an E100 and maus

PBR shell impact marks when wg?

[solid gate]

This game was not made to be realistic, I know, it looks like I'm confronting you but it's reality because in the game they have extremely inaccurate guns and with a penetration impossible to estimate because only a small portion has already been proven in real combat.

[lilac mica]

If you want realism play War Thunder

[solid gate]

So if a more modern tank were hypothetically added to the game, it would have to have its features extremely nerfed to compete with the silly steel giants of 80 years ago.

[wanton marlin]

True. I can see where your your coming from.

[solid gate]

and personally, seeing even a mere prototype M1 Abrams from the late 1970s being an almost blind and slow goofball is something sad and cringe

[wanton marlin]

Realistic shell impact marks when wg?

[plucky summit]

When the worst phones can deal with it

[wanton marlin]

Would be an option in graphics settings

[plucky summit]

I think WG is very focused on new tanks rn

[hollow notch]

Before new tanks and fancier graphics should be balance, but I guess balancing roulette works too

[loud verge]

Enchanted tracks is useless imo, i still prefer the right one, bcos it lowers the cool down

[thorny smelt]

Enchanted tracks? Oooh~ Magical~

You mean enhanced tracks?

[sleek apex]

Debatable, the toolbox isnt that useful either since most of the time you would just use a consumable to fix a broken module instantly, the enhanced tracks would lessen the amount of times where you get tracked.

[tulip knot]

I want enchanted tracks now.

[hollow notch]

It is objectively not useless.
If you need a fast repair, you repair kit it either way.

If you safely let your tracks repair by themselves, they go back to full health.
They have a higher health to begin with, meaning they get taken off less.

Very very rarely with the barely faster repair speed actually help, while more track durability is gonna come in handy far more often.

[solid gate]

i used enhanced tracks on my light tanks because i would fall from high places right after leaving spawn, and also because i should see some placebo effect in blocking damage when i get hit near the running gear

[hollow notch]

Reasoning 100

[solid gate]

Big brain time

[foggy siren]

what is the minotauro tank because i've been playing the game for 6 years and i saw it for the first time yesterday

[thorny smelt]

The new Italian tank destroyer. There will be a new tank destroyer line starting at tier 5 with Semovente. I think from tier 7 the armor is stronger.

[foggy siren]

but why did I see it in game?

[thorny smelt]

They're undergone testing.

[foggy siren]

Oh ok Its dev

?

are these players to whom we give the tanks to test them?

Oh ok

Me to 😌

And fv 183 when i play bc and i Take a -1300 !

[thorny smelt]

It's for those who applied for tank testing

[forest ermine]

@jovial wind we don't work for Wargaming, so that's not upto us in any way, shape or form, and pls mind your language

While you're free to express your displeasure with things in the game, you'll have to do so within the #rules

I'm fairly certain they're aware of people not liking the tank or thinking it's too strong

[fleet berry]

whatdadogdoin#9940 has been warned.

[forest ermine]

Again, watch your language

Dude

Don't make me have to ban you

As to Wg's decisions and choices, some of it makes sense if you watch it from a business perspective

[gentle lichen]

Cursing would not be the right move. Anyways, what other tanks do you guys think would be interesting if implemented into the game? @jovial wind

[forest ermine]

With every line Wg releases, there's one tank that is too strong. Usually the tier IX or the tier X

This makes people grind the line, spend their free xp and gold and all

And then after some months, Wg balances it out and the next new line comes, with the same build in fault

[gentle lichen]

That certainly is a common sentiment among blitz players

[forest ermine]

Not a guy, either 🤷‍♀️ but legit - mind your language. I've given you multiple "free passes" now. Be sure to check #rules if you're unsure what you can or can't do or say

They do, a lot, but the playerbase on here is only a very small portion of the actual playerbase, and you have to keep in mind that most of the playerbase is more used to losing than winning

[fleet berry]

whatdadogdoin#9940 was muted

[forest ermine]

Oh

[fleet berry]

whatdadogdoin#9940 was banned

[gentle lichen]

A series of most unfortunate events indeed transpired here.

[forest ermine]

Yup 😬

[frail dagger]

warned: muted: banned: plus other things

[hollow belfry]

Talking to a wall moment

[ancient iron]

is the British TD line (the ATs and such) worth running?

[hollow belfry]

I'd say no because the grind isn't that exciting + ew 183
Just get a Jageroo

[solid gate]

should I grind for emil or j panther?

[frail dagger]

the AT line was my favourite line ever, and its crown jewel, the beautiful 183

[ancient iron]

see for me the 183 seems like just a Centurion HESH magnet and waste of a team slot due to reload time and noticeable lack of armor

note: I get theoretically you could say that about the Sheridan but the Sheridan is much smaller, and very fast....

[tulip knot]

The sheri is a good tank that is versatile and has an actual impact on the game. The 183 is a piece of crap and is just toxic

[rigid thunder]

the entire line isn't full of burning dumpster fires now after they got buffed, but the 183 at the top is only good for "hehe funny 1300 damage". Only grind it if you're interested in that prospect

[slow pagoda]

Should i grind for is-3 or tiger ll?

[tepid stump]

Perhaps Tiger 2

[gilded badge]

I have a few t9 vehicles that I could buy maybe you can help me which I should get
Vehicles that I don't really care for: vk45.02 b, obj.704 and jagdtiger
Vehicles that I am somewhat interested: vickers cr, su-54-122 and wz-120

[orchid grail]

Is it worth it to grind for fv 4005 ?

[rigid thunder]

yes

[agile wyvern]

Imagine giving the T55A a interesting camo called "Two face" two completely different themes in one legendary camo, Front Half Is german theme and Back half Part is Russian

[rigid thunder]

the dracula's legendary camo has that exact name

[orchid grail]

My friend said it trash because it have weak armor and big turret

[rigid thunder]

your friend doesn't know how to use a tank that has 1640 clip potential

[ancient iron]

Type 58 is beyond worthless.
"here, have a T-34-85 but WORSE IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY!!!"

[violet timber]

Yes

[hollow sequoia]

"hey look its an incredibly versatile tank with a 1640 clip that you can dump in 5 seconds that has spall liners and superconsumables, oh wait it has bad armor nevermind then its trash"

[void minnow]

Worse?

Like... It has better DPM, better max speed + it can farm.

[violet timber]

Better dpm, worse pen, worse accuracy, better top speed, worse p/w, slightly better armor by like 2mm so it’s basically the same armor

The main difference is the pen. 144 compared to 128 is a pretty big difference

[oak pollen]

I'm pretty sure your friend will regret what he said after he know how to play the tank

[ancient iron]

also absolutely no gun depression

[violet timber]

Which tank are you talking about here?

[ancient iron]

Type 58

[violet timber]

Would you say that the 60TP has no gun depression?

[ancient iron]

never played it, but possibly.
but the thing is, you need gun depression when your only halfway decent armor is your turret. the Type 58 has no choice but to take hits in order to fire anything back... it's bad... edited to fix that it has worse pen than T-34-85 I misunderstood that point

[violet timber]

It has 7 degrees of gun depression, enough to work a ridge.

[ancient iron]

it really isn't on like... more than half the maps... you can hit turrets and thats it.... aaaaaand it has crap pen... and MOST tanks.... have more turret armor than hull armor....

the damn thing just ricochets constantly

[safe cedar]

New tier X idea?

[balmy compass]

Leopard (tier V) but at tier X?

[violet timber]

Good luck penetrating anything

[hollow notch]

So the same as the tier 5 leopard?

[pulsar shell]

When do we get to see new Italian TD?

[regal bough]

i would say around 1-3 updates

[balmy compass]

We have Kamfpanzer 70

[pseudo jolt]

New tier XII idea? T-72B and M1A2 Abrahams.

[balmy compass]

we really don't need a Abrams in the game

[plucky summit]

Tier X is the max, don’t even try

[raven lintel]

Hey what is the best Cher V heavy tank Mitsu108 Or KV-1?

for me it's Mitsu

[plucky summit]

Easily Mitsu, KV-1 is negligible

[hot ingot]

T1 Heavy

[balmy compass]

BDR

[plucky summit]

Those aren’t options 😂