vehicles-discussion

[harsh cedar]

Obj 752 really weak front armor tho

[north sundial]

That was close 😅

Is it good though?

[violet timber]

It is a good tank

[violet timber]

It’s got a pretty good armor profile 🤔

[sleek apex]

Yes, very good gun well known to the panther tanks during ww2, thick gun mantlet and very good manouverability for its size. Hulldown and bait shots into its gun mantlet. Sort of a larger pz iv s.

[signal steeple]

But firepower is impressive

[misty wing]

The armor is not even that bad

[umbral hamlet]

Lmao what? You need 360 heat pen to reliability go through it

[torpid lagoon]

Thoughts on Tech Tree Chinese Light Tanks eventually coming to the game

[empty helm]

If type 62 in the tech tree

[torpid lagoon]

Type 62 would technically be in its proto-chassis or factory code WZ-131

Just like how the Type 59's preproduction hulls were called WZ-120 on tier 9

[umbral hamlet]

They suck in wot, they're supposed to be armored lights but the turret is 200mm effective armor and 5 gun dep doesnt help at all

[nimble spruce]

When Tankenstein coming back lmao I only need 5 more parts 💀

[weak sparrow]

hori stb ir type 71

[umbral hamlet]

They're 3 completly different tanks

[weak sparrow]

well just give me 1 line from the tree

[umbral hamlet]

Never, it's gone forever 💀

[nimble spruce]

😔

[umbral hamlet]

Type has the best grind, even tho Ho ri is a "better" tank imo
Don't even consider stb, the grind isnt the best and the tank isnt meta

[weak sparrow]

guess type over stb

[scarlet grotto]

foch 155 or sheridan ? i just got both certificates (research and buy) from the current operation. btw sheridan is already researched so i'll use the research certificate for the foch, but i dont know which to buy first

[balmy compass]

Sheridan

[ornate coral]

Foch is really fun, if you enjoyed the foch line, you'll really like the tier X

[scarlet grotto]

i bought foch

because patriotism

[wintry orchid]

Hori imo. I’m pretty much disappointed by the Type

[scarlet grotto]

patriotism achieved

[violet magnet]

Make it happen blitz

[empty helm]

If only floppa tanks exist

[low rampart]

How good is E5 compared to other tier 10 heavies?

[violet timber]

It’s about middle of the pack

[violet magnet]

E5 is ok, but since it’s American it has weak tracks

I never saw it that way 😂

[queen leaf]

xD ok i pullup

i am having some doubts wether to go for the obj 140 or the t62a i think the 62a is better overal but i have heard the obj is a better brawler and i like that playstyle more personally any advice on what i should go for?

[summer siren]

One step closer to Objective 268

[wispy hearth]

I never seen anyone call obj268
"Objective 268"
Sounds like a mission

[balmy compass]

Get rekt by

[tranquil sun]

This tank is awesome

[sleek apex]

Fell short for a second ace 💀, i apparently hit the first shot in the cement pot on the hill thinking it would go thru (genius!)

[sleek apex]

Use a camo dude, would make you get spotted less. Nice job on that match though

[tranquil sun]

I know I can use camo, but i don't have any good looking camo for Tiger

[sleek apex]

Any free camo cert you have in the inventory would work as temporary camo

[tranquil sun]

I know, but I waiting for good looking camo from clan missions

[zinc anchor]

its ok you dont really need a camo for the tiger since its a heavy and if your camping in a heavy its a different problem

[merry current]

every little margin counts, buy the credit camos if u have to

[sleek apex]

it pretty much benefits abit on start of the game which gives very slight advantage of not being the first guy to be spotted, also slightly helps on late game when you are the last guy considering the team got wiped

[zinc anchor]

you dont have any loyalty camos? like these

[jovial lion]

Suggestion: I think Is3, IS and KV3 need a buff for reload,slight buff for aiming time and accuracy since their premium counterparts are basicly way,wayyy better, also compared to other tech three heavies on tier VII and VIII they just completely suck

[nocturne fractal]

So what’s the best tanks to get good with a specific tank class. Ex: t29 good for getting used to playing as a heavy

[copper swan]

bought the amx m4 54, how to play it?

[tulip knot]

bro. you payed 25k gold and dont even know the tank

[empty helm]

Hulldown and Frontline done

[thorny smelt]

Go for double repair kit plus adrenaline or tungsten, depending on your preference. You can go frontline or hull down depending on the situation. It is quite mobile.

[thorny smelt]

I don't even know or see you before. I only know @copper swan so please don't butt in.

Well @copper swan needs some advice since I own that tank. I'm just waiting for his/her response.

[solid gate]

Any advice on playing t49 please

Yea I have that gun just find hard not to get hit with the aim time so high

[umbral hamlet]

You can also use the 90mm if you don't feel confortabile tho

[solid gate]

Ok well I'll have a play around see which feels more suited to me thank you both

[thorny smelt]

Go for more of a hit-and-run play style

[violet iris]

Hmm

[past fractal]

Do you guys think the alpha nerf on the Grille 15 line’s 15 cm guns affect the tanks much or no ?

I just played a couple battles with WT auf Pz IV with the 15 cm but I don’t think I can form an opinion yet since nearly all of them were losses

[thorny smelt]

It is unnecessary TBH

[umbral hamlet]

It wasnt needed imo, but you know meta changes etc

[thorny smelt]

The AP pen buff is always a welcome change for Grille 15

[solid gate]

Well I found that racing into a spotting bush first up then just aiming where you think a tank will appear then basically camping until they do appear worked

Play it more backline support, you don’t have to rush close up to hit your shots necessarily

[real holly]

I like the new grille better because of the traverse, I personally would take mobility for a small amount of alpha.

[tropic belfry]

3 for 40(?) is not a good deal it still has not a full turret ,it still has shit gun Depression, camo is still bad ,with dmg nerf it lost dpm but my spd 🤓

[marsh dagger]

Every game i play in the T-28 i get mugged like im in detroit

[empty helm]

Detroit become human

[scarlet grotto]

does the ho-ris plays like the jp2 ?

[empty helm]

What is a jp2

[scarlet grotto]

jpanther II

[empty helm]

Yes without hulldown

[scarlet grotto]

thanks

[nocturne fractal]

What consumables for rhm p.s. I choose to use the stock gun not the 600 something alpha gun

[solid gate]

Tiger I was so buffed

[lyric copper]

use the more based 128mm guns

[lyric copper]

continue to use retcal

double repairs

not hard

[nocturne fractal]

Alr thx

[tulip knot]

I just read retcal as rectal. I’m an idiot

[spring badge]

Tierlist of VIII premium tanks PS: T55A = Titan-54d, Type 71 = Type 57, T22 = obj 274a,. Please share your opinion

[violet timber]

Most of them are good, but some are definitely in the wrong tier

[spring badge]

please tell me what tanks

[violet timber]

AX sucks, Celestial should be with the 252U, JgTig and Def Mk. 1 are at least OP, E75TS is really good, Spersh should be lower, Chrysler K isn’t least better than tech tree, M4 49 is at least really good

Those are the pretty obvious ones

[sharp raven]

Celestial is outmeta

[violet timber]

Celestial is comparable to a 252, and is more flexible due to the lack of a pike nose

[spring badge]

i think celestial is trash compere to 252u but ok....

[violet timber]

It’s really not

[spring badge]

please can you tell me your in game name i just check your opinion base

[violet timber]

I’ll just give you my 252U and Celeatial stats

[spring badge]

29 battles is mech...

[violet timber]

Anything over 25 battles is enough to acquaint yourself with a tank

I just don’t like playing either tank because rofl stomping enemies gets old quickly

[misty wing]

Idk why wot/blitz tier lists can't just be S A B C lmao

[balmy compass]

lol Lowe is "not stonks"

[red shoal]

keiler exist 🙂

[balmy compass]

and according to that list I suck because I bought the IS-6 2 years ago 👍

[violet timber]

Lowe has fallen off

[kindred roost]

Wow 2nd best credit coefficiency t8 tank is not stonks

[violet timber]

And somehow the Spersh is just not pug when it should be lower than the FCM

[balmy compass]

I question why Scepter is "really gooood" but not "better then tech tree"

[spring badge]

just more interesting and blockbuster

[sharp raven]

Because Scepter has more to offer than just be better than tech tree

[balmy compass]

I thought it was just looks and emergency track

[sharp raven]

Yea in that fact that scepter has emergency track one and only for its tier

[spring badge]

but uninteresting boring and there are more funny and cost efficient tanks like keiler

[balmy compass]

well same applies to Yoh V and Yoh VI, so not very special tbh

[sharp raven]

In matter of facts its still only 3 tanks of + - 300 tanks
So its very special

[balmy compass]

like tracer shells

[sharp raven]

Tracer shell is useless

If you play it like Med/light(close-mid range) u should never camp with him so 20sec spot is useless

I have T-100 LT since its release and i didnt really use this ability at all

but for Yohs... Emergency tracks saves me a lot of time

[misty wing]

Problem I have with these names is that it feels like they do not strictly get worse as you descend. Like, "HP on tracks" sounds like it should be better than "If you buy it you suck"

[spring badge]

when you have problem with names take look at colours...

[misty wing]

What I'm saying is that your names contradict the colors/order

[spring badge]

this tier list is just like any other normal tier list in order from worse to best on the tier

[balmy compass]

when you make a custom tierlist based on your opinion of naming things, it may contradict the opinions of others

[misty wing]

And I'm trying to say that the names don't make that clear, like an S A B C tier list would

[spring badge]

yes, your point is good but common sense wining

lol

[plucky summit]

“Sence”

[misty wing]

There's a bunch of other problems with it too, like what if a tank is worse than "decent" but isn't a premium? Then you have to demote it by an additional tier instead of putting it in "still better than tech tree"

And demote 122 TM to bottom 3, it sucks lmao

[sharp raven]

I have T22 TM and its good (skill issue)

[spring badge]

LMAO

[balmy compass]

I have O-47 and it’s great 👍

[red shoal]

so what?

[misty wing]

You think an IS-3 with a worse turret, 400 less hit points, and 20+ less pen is good?

[balmy compass]

That was mostly sarcasm and my opinion

[sharp raven]

Its medium Lmao

[sharp raven]

Why TF did you compare Medium with Heavy

[misty wing]

Doesn't move like one

[sharp raven]

Still more than IS-3

[misty wing]

Higher top speed that it struggles to reach, worse in every other way?

[spring badge]

Tier list is based on compare tanks between each other. please use common sense and don't write anything stupid and nonsense about tier list ranks

[sharp raven]

IS-3 with 5deg of gun deppresion compare to WZ-122 TM with 7deg of gun deppresion you can use better hulldown

[red shoal]

sad noise

[misty wing]

Still more of a medium than the 122

[red shoal]

also 42 max speed btw

[sharp raven]

T26E4 with 40km/h max ?? is it still more medium than T22 TM ??

And also IS-3 gameplay is much more different than 122 TM

[misty wing]

122 TM plays like a Russian/Chinese heavy at that tier with no HP but more gun depression

[sharp raven]

What is your IGN i would like to see your stats with russain heavies

[spring badge]

play what you want as you want but wn8 looks like red tomato

[misty wing]

?

[misty wing]

Ignore the IS-3 and 5 because I haven't touched them in ages, but I perform fairly well in the type 57 and Skoda (which are just flat out better than the 122 TM btw)

[sharp raven]

Yea because Skoda T56 and Type 57 is meta of tier VIII

[misty wing]

If tier 10 is a better indicator

[red shoal]

is7 is not better indicator for 122TM gameplay ig

[misty wing]

Well I don't have representative stats in the IS-3, 5, or celestial

[red shoal]

do you even own that 122tm?

[misty wing]

Yes lol, it's bad

[spring badge]

i don't want to be offensive but on other tanks too

[red shoal]

mby u just play it badly 🙂

[spring badge]

right point of view i guess

[misty wing]

Well clearly you can't look at stats and see that it falls behind other tanks dramatically

In what world is 203mm apcr standard pen good on a tank with that mobility

And heaviums that are classified as meds instead of heavies to start with are inherently at a disadvantage

[sharp raven]

Not for me

[misty wing]

I mean tank statistics, not wn8/winrate
And in that case you can point to your STG stats and say it's good as well lmao, doesn't mean anything

[sharp raven]

Take it back no one will insult my STG

For me STG is one of my fav tier VIII prems

21st on EU server

[misty wing]

Okay well it seems like you're just an insane player and performing well in every tank, so it's not surprise that there's a lot of tanks that you do like. However, if you care to look at some numbers and think a bit more, you'd find that there's no reason to play a 122 TM over most other 400 alpha tanks at tier 8

[spring badge]

he talks truth

[misty wing]

Are you incapable of adding something of value to the conversation?

[sharp raven]

Well yes but actually on tier VIII there is not so much tanks with 400 alpha that is actually good imo

and WZ-122 TM is one of the better tanks with 400 alpha... NOT THE BEST but better

I like it and you dont, everyone has different opinion.

[misty wing]

I like it too, I'm just saying I think it's objectively quite bad

[spring badge]

i'm just watching and enjoying theatre where you doing to me

[sharp raven]

huh ?

[misty wing]

And before we go further, I'd like to clarify that by 400 alpha I'm including the 122s with slightly more than that, like 450 Skoda, 420 53tp, 430 type 57

[sharp raven]

400 is 400

[frank pecan]

I found this

[misty wing]

400~ish alpha
(I'm too lazy to type that on mobile)

[spring badge]

?

[kindred roost]

Doesnt skoda have 130mm gun

[misty wing]

Actually yeah I think so
Still counts though

[frank pecan]

And I found out that Japanese tanks are real.

[red shoal]

hv?

[frank pecan]

yes

[sharp raven]

Im counting only 122s with 400 no more not less just 400... 420 or 430,450 is different not same

[red shoal]

show us

[misty wing]

Okay then ignore what I said and pretend I said something different, what would your response be

[frank pecan]

See that image. And in the 50s, General McArthur ordered Japan to rearm. They started developing indigenous tanks though they finally settled down on a 25t Light Tank

called the ST-A. And in the 60s Japan had started a ST-B program for new Main Battle Tank.

[sharp raven]

Do you counting this ??

[spring badge]

😱

[sharp raven]

its 122 tho

[frank pecan]

That image of the chassis blueprint.

[red shoal]

type 57

[frank pecan]

Japan was ordered by US to rearm in the 50s and plans for domestic tank eventually settled down to a 25t light tank. In the process they would had considered multiple options and Type 57 represents one of those that was then abandonned.

[sharp raven]

It looks like some sort of ww1 tank blueprint

[spring badge]

@frank pecan please can you find historical source of this ? 🎃

[sharp raven]

Bruh 😄

[frank pecan]

It is real and designed by Japan in WW2

[frank pecan]

This is fake and it is not Japanese either. It has nothing to do with Japan's tank projects. And if you are not certain about those tanks you can ask the staff for historical info.

[sharp raven]

Staff know nothing about history(and balance itself) they only care about money Lmao

[spring badge]

LMAO

[red shoal]

i think that was joke 🙂

[sharp raven]

L and G we got em

[spring badge]

🚨

[frank pecan]

I am curious about their answers. Why no one have ever discovered those heavy tanks other than them

And the only way to prove that they are real is by reading development history of Japanese tanks and those would be hypotheorical concepts based off what Japanese engineers were considering by the time. Interview one of them helps.

[balmy compass]

You know WG made all the hybrid nation tanks, so why can’t they make up some more tanks and give them a general nation theme

[violet timber]

122TM is bad. It has bad mobility, meh armor, meh gun stats. It’s just a worse heavy tank

[violet timber]

Personal statistics don’t matter when talking about how good a tank is.

[neat nimbus]

High damage by ramming, thick armor, good dynamics, and a fast-firing gun — it's all about the Gravedigger. In years gone by (in 2018 to be more precise), Peter Pound©, the Principal Vehicle designer of Mad Max: Fury Road, drew some sketches of this vehicle. And when the old world collapsed, the mad Wasteland engineers constructed a working prototype. - from blitz hangar

may i be in trouble and before i get banned likely i must say wg should at least make up some lore in hybrid nation tanks

[valid gale]

I really don’t understand why people think randomly saying the most inoffensive thing will get them banned

[neat nimbus]

wg has me on my nerves

so i have kind of anxiety and afraid someone thinks isnt allowed by rule and may i get trouble

[valid gale]

Again I don’t understand the rules are pretty clear common sense wise don’t say anything that obviously attacks individuals or their background or believe in a certain thing

[sharp canopy]

what best pick line to leopart 1, vk 28 or vk 30?

[thorny smelt]

Probably the VK 28

[sharp canopy]

ok thx for info sir 😄

[brave juniper]

Well diablo has gotten people banned before in quick succession before they could do harmful things and so have other mods so it could just be a random assumption 🤔 , or they've seen the "* was banned" spam in blitz memes sometimes too

[empty helm]

If only e4 could do this

[halcyon pawn]

Just got the VK 100.01 (P), any tips with this Panzer?

[empty helm]

Sidescrap done

[halcyon pawn]

Seems reasonable

[empty helm]

And somehow hide the warehouse cupola

[halcyon pawn]

Yeah i realised how big it was💀

But basically as long as i'm facing someone i shouldn't have too much problems?

[balmy compass]

Always wiggle whenever you don’t have cover

[halcyon pawn]

Oh yeah heard that it helps, basically to make it harder to hit weak spots right?

[balmy compass]

Especially the lower plate, although makes you get tracked alot

[empty helm]

The lower plate is too damn big

[balmy compass]

Your rear is also well armored against meds, so wiggling can troll bounces at the back

[halcyon pawn]

Oh thats actually pretty nice since the Tank is pretty damn slow

[balmy compass]

Tbh I feel like the traverse feels good despite being a superheavy

[pallid flame]

You can’t escape my t34 😕

[halcyon pawn]

Try ramming my Superschwererpanzer tho

[pallid flame]

I didn’t realise you’re on eu, see you in battle /hj

[halcyon pawn]

Yeah but against an AMX or something your basically screwed

[halcyon pawn]

Fighting ArianaGrande in WoTB, VK 100.01 (P) VS T-34

[pallid flame]

hey, my tank is faster

And it’s purple

Will probably change it to gold when its in the gold ranking

[halcyon pawn]

True
Purple slaps tho

[copper swan]

vk30

[hot pelican]

37k blocked in a medium lol

[empty helm]

Imagine ST-2 in uprising with double shots

oh wait Helsing works too

Aarrggghhhhh

[thorny smelt]

All tanks left the game

[pliant pike]

Skip Swedish Leo or not?
And Free exp for Emil Module

[empty helm]

Skip Leo if you want it kinda sucks (for me)

If you have enough for all of the Emil module (especially the engine)

[solid wolf]

i cant choose what td to pick what do you think its easy to use?

[odd cove]

idk.. grille

[thorny smelt]

Ho-Ri, WZ-113G FT

[solid wolf]

i have hori

chinese or soviet td?

[thorny smelt]

Chinese TD

[empty helm]

Chinese TD for armor
Soviet TDs for armorn't

[thorny smelt]

Object 263: Am I a joke to you?

[tawny quartz]

Wz 131g moment

[empty helm]

Yes

I think that will increase my social credit

[thorny smelt]

I wanna FXP to Jageroo TBH

[solid wolf]

@thorny smelt @empty helm how about jag e100?

[tropic belfry]

🤡 From Blitz News:

A summary of the E 50 M changes for 9.2:

• The lower plate becomes weaker, due to changes in angling. It goes from 240 mm down to 210 mm of effective armor. The nominal thickness remains the same (104 mm).
• The bar between the upper and lower front plate was removed (this was a very tiny weakness, but since the lowerplate will be nerfed, it won't make much difference).
• Side plates of the turret that were angled at 77° (frontally) will now be angled at 74°, reducing their effective thickness from 370 mm down to 310 mm. This means they can get penned with HEAT on flat terrain. To avoid this, work with your gun depression.
• Although the cupola thickness was reduced, it also received more polygons. As a result, the new cupola will produce some autobounces (since angles of 70° and greater will be more common, especially in hulldown situations). The size/volume of the cupola remains pretty much the same, and you won't feel any differences.
• The turret will be placed slightly more to the front, making the tank less suitable for sidescrapping, but more suitable for hulldown.
• The turret roof will be buffed, from 42 mm up to 169 mm. As a result, the turret roof won't be overmatchable.
• The tiny bits armor with 0 mm behind the rangefinders bulges were removed.
• The mantlet becomes bigger, making it harder to hit the tank's cheeks. It's worth noting that the spaced armor for the mantlet is not properly modeled (you can see this on Blitzhangar). If WG doesn't fix this in 9.2, we may have a broken armor highlight for the tank until 9.3 or following patches.
• The mantlet can get penned sideways.
• The frontal armor of the turret remains unchanged.
• The rear of the turret, near the turret ring, received more polygons. As a result, it will produce some autobounces if it's getting shot from the side.
• Due to different tracks placement, all the effective armor values may be higher than anticipated, due to slight changes in the tank's height.

[tropic belfry]

clowns clowns clowns

[lime anchor]

When is t54e2 coming back in stores?

[acoustic galleon]

No, its a fun tank.

[thorny smelt]

???

[ornate coral]

Yes

[tropic belfry]

??? what do you not understand? its getting another massive nerf after the alpha and accuracy nerf

[balmy compass]

The accuracy nerf was barely anything, I have the E 50 M and it’s practically the same

[tropic belfry]

its still a nerf even if you dont feel a change

[balmy compass]

It’s not massive

[tropic belfry]

with the armor and alpha nerf yeah it is thats 3 things that got nerft why should you play this over the 907/t22/121 now ?

[balmy compass]

It’s still a fast mobile well armored medium
Plus the WZ-121 is very different with that very high alpha and paper armor

[tropic belfry]

paper armor? Amazing turret and thiccer front hull than the 62a xd

[balmy compass]

Yes the turret is nice but the hull is still paper enough to get penned alot, just like the T-62A

[tropic belfry]

last i checked the 121 had 330+ with little angling i must be wrong

[balmy compass]

Well using all your gun depression gets you alot of effective armor but it’s hard to use all your gun depression on a hill and still be able to hit your shots on someone with 7 or 6 gun dep

[tropic belfry]

yeah but its low down not like the tall e50m

[balmy compass]

The E 50 M also has an additional degree of gun depression and a even thick upper plate so you can do your best either hulldown or hiding behind something the T-62A or WZ-121 can’t because the E 50 M can look over that cover

[lyric copper]

50m mains deserve it tbh

[tropic belfry]

aww do we make you angry? :) cant have an op german tank in the game xd better buff the russian tanks and autoloaders 👍

[lyric copper]

nah i just think its funny seeing people who worship certain tanks mald when they get nerfed

[balmy compass]

I’m trying to prove why and how you can still play the E 50 M despite it being nerfed

[tropic belfry]

because you never felt salty because one or some of your favorite tanks got nerft

[thick trout]

For reference tanks like the Russian meds and the 121 rely on angle to produce all the effective thickness, and now meds have AP as standard normalisation hits then very hard, the thickness of the plate in armour inspector doesn't show the full story in game

[lyric copper]

part of the game, tanks rise and fall in the meta

who cares lol

[tropic belfry]

then we are different people i care about my tanks and dont want to grind tanks because they are now "Meta" Like the autoloaders or the is4

[lyric copper]

people will still need prammo to pen your hulldown tank

[past fractal]

Do you have any tips on how to play Sheridan ?

[lyric copper]

hit and run

[hasty wadi]

When the type 71 sankai camo will come up again?

[tropic belfry]

• Side plates of the turret that were angled at 77° (frontally) will now be angled at 74°, reducing their effective thickness from 370 mm down to 310 mm. This means they can get penned with HEAT on flat terrain. To avoid this, work with your gun depression.
• The turret will be placed slightly more to the front, making the tank less suitable for sidescrapping, but more suitable for hulldown.
• The mantlet can get penned sideways. these are honestly the biggest problems i have with the pbr "nerfs" of the e50m other nerfs while a nerf dont concern me like these 3

[lyric copper]

lol wat how is the mantlet being weak sideways bad

if they can see your mantlet they can see some part of the side

still, most tanks need prammo to pen your turret frontally

[violet timber]

The mantlet being weak sideways isn’t a problem since they can see the entire side of your turret

A more frontal turret placement is better as hulldown is much more viable of a strat than side scraping is

[lyric copper]

and it can still sidescrape on PC, which is where the model is from

so idk why it’s so bad to you

[tropic belfry]

maybe i have to see and play it in 9.2 but i am still not happy about this

[violet timber]

It’s still gonna be the armored medium of tier 10

[lyric copper]

it won’t be like 140 PBR where it changed the whole play style of the 140

You’re still the armoured tier X MT

[tropic belfry]

thats now the kampfpanzer 50t xd too bad you cant get it ^

[violet timber]

Kampfpanzer isn’t really that armored tbh

[lyric copper]

50T has a frontal turret weakspot which is pretty visible

50M doesn’t have one of those

[worthy ore]

Matilda or Alecto?

[violet timber]

Matilda

[umbral hamlet]

Matilda, then you can choose to go for:
-Crusader, it leads to a great med (fv4202) and an equally great td (fv4005) even tho they're not very forgiving
-Churchill, leads to armored and slow heavys with great firepower

[hollow sequoia]

i wouldnt say the conq is armored but yeah

[worthy ore]

Ok good I couldnt make a choice thanks

[charred vigil]

bro stop crying like a child everywhere, we get it your favorite tank got nerfed. stop acting like a spoiled brat.

[tropic belfry]

nah vehicles discussion and tank balance cant you read ^^

[low rampart]

Why would you shoot all 3 shots of the Pantera, if you have less reload time only using the first and second shot? It's kinda useless.

[lyric copper]

switching between burst and single fire

surprise an enemy with a sudden 600 damage

[low rampart]

If you use the first two shots, you only have to wait 3.5. The difference for using the third shot is only 0.5 sec, and you get 6.65 sec reload as a reward, doesn't seem worth it.

[lyric copper]

burst is king in wotb

and good players in their autoloaders know how to take advantage of being able to switch between single and burst fire

[low rampart]

Then you can use the first two shots for the burst, it saves you the less DPM for the match.

[lyric copper]

DPM means nothing

you single shot and stay single shooting until you know you can clip them

then you clip them

if you see you will have some downtime, may as well clip dump

[worthy ore]

Churchill 1 Or Crusader?

[merry current]

do u want 4202 or 215b

[fast compass]

Unless you see yourself getting into a dpm battle within the next 10 seconds, it's just better to dump in the Pantera. Your reload is so quick that it won't really take long to load

[lyric copper]

@worthy ore if the brits are your first line i wouldnt reccomend it

[worthy ore]

Soo...What's better overall..?

[fast compass]

And if you end up in a dpm brawl in the Pantera alone, you probably messed up somewhere

[lyric copper]

both are painful for new players

[fast compass]

Pretty much ^^

British tech tree in general is not new player friendly

[worthy ore]

I downloaded the game today and I've lost once..Lucky? Maybe probably but What one is better out of the 2

[lyric copper]

just abandon the brits for now

[worthy ore]

Ok..So what do I change to?

[lyric copper]

Germany or the Soviets

some of the best starter lines are found between the two nations

[worthy ore]

Ight

[pallid flame]

E

[worthy ore]

Think I'll go with the Germans

[lyric copper]

German heavies are slower and require more precision than Soviet tanks, but their armour and HP are a godsend for newer players

the Soviet heavies are more agile, and have more unique ways of bouncing armour.

[pallid flame]

Which line

[worthy ore]

Heztar or PZ. IV D

[balmy compass]

Panzer IV D

[lyric copper]

quite a lot of paths you can take with those...

hetzer leads to the Jgpz E100 and Grille (which I do not recommend)

the Pz. IV D leads to the rest of the tree

so pick Pz IV D

[worthy ore]

Thanks for all da help

Probably be back a bit longer later

[balmy compass]

@worthy ore I suggest to take this line (it is after Panzer IV G).

[lyric copper]

^ you learn vital skills in this line if you take your time to learn

sidescraping, angling your armour, trading. The E100 should combine all these skills into one tank.

[thick trout]

Everything before the E100 is just completely brainless to play though so it's pretty much pointless to learn through.

[lyric copper]

wouldnt say the E75 is brainless

imo the E75 is the thinking man's Tiger II

[balmy compass]

Just press 2
How is it brainless to play 💀

I would even say Tiger 1 is even farther from brainless then the rest of the tanks in the line

[thick trout]

It's literally a tiger 2 but stronger in the gun and the upper plate tier for tier, how isn't it brainless. Drive forward, bounce 80% of what's shot at you, hit 80% of what you want with your brilliant gun. No thinking, no strategy, just good performance for nothing.

[worthy ore]

This is what looks like rn

[ornate coral]

Okay

[balmy compass]

[ember lodge]

Full german

[lyric copper]

honestly as i have all but 2 of the techtree UK tier Xs

i may as well go for em

probably when im done grinding the T57

[light hamlet]

Is the polish heavy tank tech tree good

[hazy bear]

Question for anyone why was the t30 reload increased to 15.6?

[rigid rover]

i hate kv2s when i play a no armored td or light, i get oneshotted by them bruuh

[boreal spruce]

its a decent above average TT heavy line. and the tanks are all quite nice

[balmy compass]

So I have seen people say the T7 Car had a 25 clip mag, I was wondering how many shots was in each clip?

[plucky summit]

5

Either that or it was a single shot per unless it was weird like T2 Medium 💀

[balmy compass]

Damm, 125 shots, no wonder it was nerfed

[timid wharf]

idk, it was always a bad tank and is now worse. no hull armour, turret armour that doesn't work cause weak cheeks and a huge cupola. bad mobility and a crappy 155mm gun.

[pallid flame]

It’s not bad lol

[timid wharf]

what is your secret. i just sucked in it. it can't snipe due to bad accuracy, can't frontline due to bad armour, can't press due to bad mobility. its gun has good pen, but the dpm is so bad you may as well play an object 704 and have better dpm, similar armour and better mobility and camo.

[pallid flame]

It’s strong smh

[ornate coral]

it had 25 shots

[open inlet]

is this tank good? Just unboxed it in the Collect em all crates

[ebon nacelle]

Yes

[umbral hamlet]

It's decent
I'd also suggest you to never buy crates

[open inlet]

alr

technically its the first time that I bought it

[foggy spire]

Yes. I have it, and it’s a fun tank.

What should I grind first, Yoh or the Obj 263 line?

[ornate coral]

Go for yoh, it's fun and better than 263 rn

[foggy spire]

Gotcha!

[spring hull]

I find it quite weird that WG chose one of the worst maps in the game, Castilla, out of all maps, to give new graphics

This speaks for itself

With the HTs camping, the TDs were not covered and were consequently exposed to fire from the entire enemy team. The friendly IS-3 is trying to take up a TD position on the hill which is absolute nonsense but that doesn’t excuse the friendly Ho Ri blocking him from doing so, even if he was camping it’s better than nothing. But the Ho Ri spent all his time blocking the IS-3, and as a result that was 2 teammates effectively out of the game.

[empty helm]

You got gangbanged

[spring hull]

The only other teammate that doesn’t deserve criticism here is the friendly LT that was actually trying to do his job. As a AT 15 this is one of the worst maps you can get. You could argue I’m in a bad spot myself, but There was nowhere else for me to go, even though this was a bad position it was the best I could get

[past fractal]

Alright, here’s my two cents

• The hell were you doing showing ur sides to enemies lol, you might’ve knew that you lost anyway but damn that is a weird way to do it

• And yeah, Castilla is a really heavy and MT reliant map. Basically they don’t push you’re possibly stuck in a crossfire, or just stuck in general

[light hamlet]

Question:
How do i use the IS tank

[copper swan]

play it like a medium

[light hamlet]

Oh ok and question: if im on frontline how should i pose my tank position? Towards a clear shot? Angled? Straight? So i dont get hit

[spring hull]

The enemies shooting at my side were not spotted when I was backing up, if I didn’t turn and kept backing up the way I was before I would have only raised myself onto higher ground.

[past fractal]

IS tank really does fall apart when you try to 1v1 tier 8 heavies with it, so basically use it as support when against higher tiers

I would also suggest using the 100 mm gun on it, fun gun

@light hamlet Depends. If you have a building cover go ahead and angled

[copper swan]

angled, try to use terrain to hide your big hatch

[light hamlet]

Towards the corner of the building like facing the edge of the building showing an angled rear?

[spring hull]

So yeah if I didn’t turn while backing up it basically would have guaranteed the destruction of the tank, but backing up this way by turning and driving back down gave me a chance at survival, even if it was a small one

If you look carefully you can see there is high ground behind me, which means I need to make a almost 90 degree turn in order to reverse back to safety

[light hamlet]

Bruh that tank is unhitable

[wise moth]

Why are you in that corner? It's literally the worst TD spot on that spawn

[hollow sequoia]

and why wasnt he pushing in an assault td

[wise moth]

*Goes to the most useless corner on the map*

*Gets shot because he's not helping take map control*

"WG why is this map so bad"

[viral falcon]

Why were you camping in an AT first of all?🤡

[valid gale]

He has no camo on 💀

And he did literally the worst move possible backing up

continues to drive in a curve further exposing weak side to enemies

[spring hull]

Alright maybe I should have gone front line and got myself killed even faster, if you look at the mini map none of my heavies are pushing so what you are suggesting is I fill in the role of a HT. Also my armour isn’t that reliable

[valid gale]

Saying that only makes you look worse lol the solution is to hold not always do you have to rush or even think about having to fill in that role

[spring hull]

I will say this for the second time. Look more closely, if I kept backing up without turning, I would have pushed myself onto high ground and therefore basically prolonging my death but still same result. Instead I chose to turn and drive back down the slope in order to have a chance to survive.

Also I turned camo off in the settings, so don’t judge pls

[manic carbon]

Whilst it can be frustrating, take teammate positioning into account more effectively. Two heavies being passive, one camping at spawn and your light tank was not spotting the enemy medium so once you were spotted it is unsurprising the medium started pelting you.
Also, AT-15 relies on getting several shots in but from that position in that situation, it was pretty easy for the enemy heavies to peak out for a second to hit you whilst not taking more than one shot from you + exposed to enemy medium

[valid gale]

Yet you did a wide curve turn and if you actually knew the map well yoh could have further reversed onto a slope and into cover on the higher ground better yet that higher ground would have done nothing for the enemy’s advantage

Literally no high ground and you could have reversed in a straight line to the factory 💀

[spring hull]

Thanks for the advice, I’ve never really enjoyed the armoured TD play style, but I’m grinding it only for the 183. More used to the glass TD play style

[valid gale]

That explains it all

[manic carbon]

Yeah, that corner sucks but even more so for a big and slow tank destroyer. You’re easy to spot and once spotted you’re way too exposed and very slow to fallback to suitable cover

[light hamlet]

Which gun is better for the kvs1s

122mm
85mm
76mm

[wise moth]

122mm

[light hamlet]

Damn bigger shots slower reload

Gotta make those shots counted tho

[copper swan]

or you can try the 85mm but the penetration is rubbish

[spring hull]

I’m sorry but can you see what a straight line is? The screen shot you took clearly shows that I must have had to turn in order to reverse back to the factory. Yes I admit I turned a little too much but such a turn was still necessary.

[light hamlet]

Tbh penetration is more important than damage cuz that damage wont go in if it has low penetration especially on well armored tanks

[thorny smelt]

122 mm

[copper swan]

guess the KV 1 S user must get used to the 122mm then

[light hamlet]

Kv1s with 122m should probably play support

Shoot
Hide
Wait for reload
Repeat

[spring hull]

Also yeah I kinda messed up on the positioning but even if I went town between the HT side and the MT side, the game would still have been lost.

[wise moth]

You don't need to go town, you just go the the right corner, or up to the castle

Just literally anywhere but that corner

[spring hull]

You wanna see the results of the battle?

[umbral hamlet]

why would he care

[manic carbon]

I usually go castle in most cases for Castilla. Sometimes I get berated at for not just driving forward with no thought and sitting on the hill and being crossfired

[thorny smelt]

KV-1S in WOT PC: le cries

[spring hull]

I know where the castle is but where is the “right corner”? If you mean the minimap then I am already on the right corner.

[umbral hamlet]

imo castilla is playable only on the castle/church side, the ht side is just a campfest with everyone sniping you from across the map

[spring hull]

Also yeah that was quite a bad move but at that time my thinking was that it would take me half the match just to finally reach castle and who knows what might have happened then.

[manic carbon]

Yeah. If you go HT side and sit by hill, you’re essentially relying on teammates to hold/take Church and completely relying on random teammates like that usually won’t go well

[spring hull]

yh HT side is kinda crappy on Castilla, but it’s really a hard choice when you’re in a slow tank

[wise moth]

I mean the corner on the opposite side of you

[spring hull]

We also had these people doing who knows what in the spawn

[thorny smelt]

Are they dating or what?

[manic carbon]

My guess is the Ho Ri saw the IS-3 trying to climb and is attempting to prevent him from spawn sniping on the hill

[spring hull]

😂 I think so

But seriously tho the Ho ri didn’t want the IS-3 camping and so blocked him from taking up his position. But that doesn’t rly help because it means the Ho ri is spending all his energy and time on that, and the IS-3 camping and shooting is better than the IS-3 doing nothing because the Ho ri don’t let him

So basically 1/3 of our teams firepower was lost before the fighting even began

[thorny smelt]

Better get that ban hammer

[spring hull]

I only reported the Ho ri because the IS-3 may have been a newbie that doesn’t know what he’s doing, and at least he’s trying to fight, so that is excusable and justifiable

IS-3 driver = noob

Fair stereotype? What do you think?

[manic carbon]

Wouldn’t surprise me if he had tens of thousands of battles

[worthy ore]

Ima go back to Matilda.. I've been losing alot more with the Germans

[light hamlet]

Is 60TP Lewandowskiego good

[light hamlet]

Matilda is a good tank just dont expose its rear sides just get a good position to not expose your front armor

[spring hull]

Actually no he only has barely 1000 battles

[worthy ore]

Ok

[ornate coral]

ofc IS3 tries to snipe from the hill (aughh), Ho ri (chad) noticed that and didn't let him on the hill ✅

[spring hull]

nah bro they were dating

[worthy ore]

This is hard cuz I have 0 idea where the non amour Places on Matilda Like how do u find out

[viral falcon]

Blitzhangar.com

[ornate coral]

Then you had 2 goofy ah temmates

[viral falcon]

Go to the tank you'd like to inspect, then scroll to the bottom and check 3D armour model

[tepid geyser]

the places that are not red are where you can shoot and do damage

[empty helm]

SO-122 when?
New Yugoslavia line when?

[balmy compass]

Ngl next battlepass tank looks kinda cool

[balmy compass]

Is there even space in the turret for the crew? 💀

[empty helm]

You can check the tank encyclopedia

[plucky summit]

So you just said don’t expose the Matilda at all 😂

Also yes, 60TP is good

[brave juniper]

Tier t6 t29 what are you doing

[blissful hamlet]

That thing at the back of the turret is ugly as heck

[empty helm]

Every e4 player dream

[dreamy rain]

Buff mouse pls

[umbral hamlet]

It already got buffed lmao

[dreamy rain]

It need another buff

[balmy compass]

based

[umbral hamlet]

It didnt really need this one already so... just learn how to play it better

[violet timber]

Maus is perfectly fine, didn’t even need the 10mm to the front of the turret

[boreal spruce]

looks like a Tanki Online tank haha🧐

[spring hull]

Has the 183 changed much after the T10 rework?

[umbral hamlet]

It has become slightly more accurate

[boreal spruce]

its reverse speed got better and its pen got a little bit worse
oh and its camo got a little bit worse also

[lilac mica]

Man of culture lol

[boreal spruce]

😎

[balmy compass]

🤔
I forgot if Smasher was able to pen the lower plate with standard, so if anyone knows can they tell me

[broken turtle]

better be a collector tank. Would be a good competitor to the m4 rev

[tender junco]

hello, I can't see any heavy japanese tech tree tanks.

[sleek apex]

Insanely bad reload time though cause theres almost no room for the loader to move inside with that 122mm having two part ammunition

[past fractal]

It can’t if the lower plate is literally below the ground

Jk, it has a hard time to pen it even with cali

[sleek apex]

Unless smasher loads HEAT shell

[light hamlet]

Question?

Is the chinese tech tree worth grinding?

Is the italian medium line good? Or should i just stick with the polish heavy line the 60TP is unique and people say its good but the progretto 65 is also good i cant decide which to grind

Is the patton line good or should is stick with the sheridan line? Or to the tier 9?

[sleek apex]

The m48 patton line are quite hard to grind through mostly due to the lack of armor especially on tier VIII and IX, the m48 are good all around but not the best tech tree tier x medium out there

[acoustic galleon]

Both the Chinese HTs and TDs are good, the mediums are the best of the lines IMO. The Proggeto is also a good line.

[viral falcon]

The chinese tech tree is really good all around, worth grinding it.

[light hamlet]

Ah thanks but i'll have to gocus on the 50TP and 60TP and i'll get to the tech tree once i reached my goal

[spring hull]

Weak armour, poor mobility, good gun

It seems I strained the capabilities of the armour too much, I thought it’d hold up but they went straight through it anyway despite me trying to angle the armour. I mean the gun is enjoyable to use but other than that there’s not a lot going for it. The armour is only half decent against tier 7s

Died 2 minutes into the game but because the gun was so good I was still able to dish out 2k damage easy

Do you think it needs a buff or it should just stay the way it is

When I see a AT series tank, I don’t think “oh no how am I going to penetrate him” I think “oh this is a easy kill I can easily circle around him if he’s isolated and if not I’ll just use prammo to butter right through his armour”

[hollow belfry]

well, even the average T8 heavy gun can butter through the front plate with standard as far as I know

[umbral hamlet]

All AT tech trees got a pretty big buff almost 2 years ago while at15a got only a slight dpm buff
I personally belive some tt ATs need another buff and at15a certainly does

[spring hull]

It’s definitely a great tank IF you can get it into the right position but that is really situational dependent because let’s say your team decides not to support you in that position that means you can’t really stay there.

[spring hull]

I think the thing should get a armour buff so people actually fear fighting it frontally and think of ways to circle it. Not saying this because I got destroyed with the thing, far from that, I’m saying what I think should be done

[past fractal]

When I see YouTube videos on AT-15 they usually seem to angle the tank to the max of its gun arc, they don’t bounce every shot from what I’ve seen though. My personal experience with fighting it is that the armor can indeed be easily penetrated by tier 8 guns that have decent enough penetration

[hollow belfry]

On one hand, some of the ATs probably do need buffs and I agree with that. On the other hand, I’d be kind of reluctant to make the 183 grind too easy as we’re not exactly seeing too few of them

[spring hull]

When I get that thing, it’s gonna be one of my most played tanks, I assure you. Even though the 183 is bad for stats, I’ve given up on grinding for stats and I think that is for the better.

I’ve noticed also extremely team reliant

[past fractal]

A lot of TDs are team reliant

[hollow belfry]

🤷‍♂️ and that’s why I am fine with the ATs being subpar tanks, might aswell not make future 183 owners’ lives too easy

[spring hull]

What’s with the hate on the 183 tho I rarely ever get shot by a 183

[nova birch]

What is the ricochet angel for the 40tp?

[past fractal]

Which type of hate?
Hate by “Bad Tank, Only Good For Slaps and Not Stats”
Or “Literal cancer tank, pls remove”

Assuming its the 2nd one, it would be because 183s can literally shoot a 900 HP AP shell / 1300 high penetration HE shell at you with no skill whatsoever, while being in the very back, returning to cover quickly. Think about it like this, you try to go on with your business and such, then some dude decides to remove a good portion of your HP, and you cant even shoot him back because hes already in cover, or you shoot him for what like 400. Basically a single tank makes a person scared just because of its “stupid” alpha that can make you low HP in one shot

[spring hull]

Out of the 300 battles I’ve played in tier IX-X recently, I’ve only been fired at by a 183 in what feels like 10 battles, and it actually hitting is even lower, let alone penetrating. It might just be me but 183 has never been a problem for me.

[past fractal]

Apologies for the essay (lal)

If you don’t get problem with fighting 183s then I guess good for you. I really do find it a big threat in stuff like Emil II, and in some cases where they somehow hit the small cheeks of E5 aaaaa

[spring hull]

True I got shot by a 183 with HESH while I was trying to do early spotting in a bat chat but I didn’t really find it frustrating or annoying in any way, if anything I was shocked for a second then I actually found it a bit amusing

I even have footage of it

Guys what happened to my garage after watching a ad

[past fractal]

Wide AT-7

[spring hull]

Wanna see a wide STG

[past fractal]

Gimme

[hollow sequoia]

i love these screen bugs

[vast bison]

Mk6 HE shell needs velocity buff imo. It is really slow and very difficult to hit targets or boosting the dpm (Even though AP dpm is already great)

[umbral hamlet]

I think it was made like that to balace it somewhere, cuz when it first came out it was almost op-ish
And then wg forgor 💀

[vast bison]

Wish i could snapshot mts with the hesh from far away

[thick trout]

The AT15 got a huge dpm buff, they had to nerf the gun handling since because it was performing so good. It's a brilliant tank it's just unconventional to play well.

[light hamlet]

Question:

Where the hell is the track print option? The one where you enable an option to see your teams track prints basically footprints

[empty helm]

In the hud setting I think

[past fractal]

Pretty sure it’s in the Graphics section

Smth like Track Traces

[calm rain]

W I D E

[solar coral]

Oh boy. The M6 Yoh has no amour and two big umbrellas on top everyone is aiming at.

[empty helm]

Skill issue
Move your turret more

[violet timber]

Oh boy, M6 Yoh has the option of being a better 183 or having insane dpm for a clipper

[umbral hamlet]

not exaclty a better 183 in terms of alpha, it only does 900 in 1.7s instead of 930 or 1300

[lyric oriole]

930 or 130

That sounds like a terrible gimmick

[balmy compass]

(HE) ((no pen))

[lyric oriole]

More like

(HE) (Miss) (2 Meters away)

[balmy compass]

true

[umbral hamlet]

mb 1300

[balmy compass]

new tank, should I swap out any equipment or consumables

damm, autorealoders are different

that was fun

[supple moss]

Does anyone know how to reload a auto reloader ?

[balmy compass]

it always reloads

[supple moss]

Like wen i have one shot it the mag and i want to reload the mag

[rough jay]

Double tap the ammo you wanna load

[supple moss]

Thx

[empty helm]

Or press r if you are on PC or laptop

[balmy compass]

you may have to check the keybind, by default it was T for me before I changed it

[empty helm]

Bruv

[wise moth]

I think the default is actually C

[balmy compass]

it was something weird

[empty helm]

WG can't even know the difference between the crouch key and the reload key

[wise moth]

It’s not that bad. “C” for “Clip”

[strange thicket]

You can force reload an autoreloader?

[dim shard]

Yes. That’s what people often forget/don’t know when I spectate clip users but it’s because it doesn’t make any sense. On mobile you have to double-tap the ammo you already loaded (or want to load) and on PC it’s C. WHY C no game ever uses C for reloads and I think the letter R isn’t used by default anyways

[strange thicket]

i know you can force reload an autoloader
but what the hell is the point of force reloading an autoreloader

well unless the first shell reloads the fastest and for some odd reason you wanna sacrifice extra shells

[balmy compass]

if the game were more realistic, say you had 3 AP shells loaded, but wanted to swap to HE shells you would reload.
But this is a game, no need for that

[plucky summit]

Fun fact, you can change your controls ._.

[solid gate]

I mapped my keyboard to match actions, like: R reload, M map, C center aim, B capture base, K keep positions, and so on…made sense and was easy to get used to

[balmy compass]

I just put everything I would use near WASD

[lilac mica]

How should I play Foch 155 ? (Just curious I think i’m playing it right but I want to know)

[sacred trail]

Armor is semi-effective like the AMX 50 line IMO, but not enough against gold or 183 AP. Also, the commander’s periscope is a wide baguette. Try playing second line primarily to make use of your mobility and periodically snipe if the opportunity allows (but don’t overstay that moment either)

[sleek apex]

Tiger I stock turret should be replaced with Tiger I ausf. H early production turret.
Also slight buff to the Tiger I ausf. E turret since the gun mantlet arent that effective for its tier.

[plucky summit]

The gun mantlet doesn’t really matter since if they have 200mm+ pen, your hull won’t hold anyways

[sleek apex]

Yep but atleast it will fare better against tier VII and some low pen tier VIII when on hulldown

[copper swan]

hmm interesting
your consideration to buff stock tiger 1 turret with a picture to support it

[sleek apex]

Would make more sense to have that than the turret that only existed on wooden mock-up historically

[lilac mica]

Not gonna lie I rarely stay in the back for sniping and I go second line as well like you suggested me (Then I was playing it right (fault of the teams then lol) and yeah Commander's periscope is bread

[sacred trail]

Yee, sloped armor does work, but the cupola is a massive baguette

[lilac mica]

Agreed

[merry current]

u can camp which is somewhat effective cuz u have great pen and dpm but barely usable accuracy
or u can "2nd line" aka hide behind hard cover, and swing out and hit them with big alpha when theyre distracted or reloading

its all about using ur mobility and good reload (its either 7s or 13s) with ur ability to alpha strike without risking ur hp. and by using hard cover u can angle ur ufp so u can reliably bounce (but dont show side)

[lilac mica]

Yeah camping is effective because of the pen and DPM like you said
The problem it's the accuracy of the Foch it tends to shoot at a unexpected place for no reason
You're absolutely right I bounce a lot of shells with that tank and I like that

[final vapor]

How to best play the IS-4?

[hollow notch]

Hull down and use the great gun

[rigid rover]

which panther 2 gun should i use?
faster reload but 150 pen
or slower reload but 200 pen

[umbral hamlet]

203 pen

[rigid rover]

thx, also is panther 2 a gud t8?

[umbral hamlet]

Tbh, no
Armor is butter against any prammo, mobility is avarage and it's gigant
It has a decent gun and good ramming capabilities tho

[rigid rover]

is e50m a gud 10 then?
also wut about tiger 2
prammo?

[umbral hamlet]

E50m is pretty good yes
TigerII is one of the strongest tier8 tech tree heavys

[umbral hamlet]

Prammo are apcr/heat gold ammo (even tho you buy them for credits)

[rigid rover]

is e 100 gud?
i was considering getting tiger 2
but i dont wanna get e100, heavies arent my playstyles
and ive heard it doesnt matter as long as the t10 is gud or smt
and each cost literal 2.3mil credits god damn

[past fractal]

E 100 was a big pain in the waifu in previous updates, but now with its improved traverse and turret it is a pretty nice tank

[umbral hamlet]

Im still not sure about it, it got a pretty big turret armor buff but it lost dpm
Btw ye i think it's good
(Tier10s are 6.1mln each)

[rigid rover]

ive heard leopard is a gud t10 for skilled ppl
and why did wg give su-152 and isu-152 like t10 guns
for like 50k xp, 600 dmg for 10 seconds jesus

[empty helm]

Fun fact : thank you for the fun fact that may help someone

[past fractal]

The bottom message applies mainly to ISU

You get the 600 dmg gun in SU-152 for free

[umbral hamlet]

Su152 has a tier7 gun with 14s reload
Isu has one of the best guns in t8 for75k exp but it pays with all the other stats

[rigid rover]

ive been able to research the tiger 2 AND pather 2 and didnt even notice the xp ive grabbed up
thats nothing
wdym pays with all otehr stats
and wuts the reload for the 600 dmg gun for su152

[umbral hamlet]

Isu has no armor, bad traverse speed, no turret and bad reverse speed to compensate for the Amazing gun

[umbral hamlet]

Su152 has 13.5 reload with rammer

[rigid rover]

is it worth it?
pls tell me no my panther gets 2 shotted by some normal tank and isu152 in t7-t8 tanks
back to the hellcat and bret panther ive researched wut i need to

[umbral hamlet]

I mean the isu is a td, you aren't supposed to go and push it frontally with a med

[rigid rover]

i dont, i half-push for t6-7 games and works out for me
i try to find a kinda far snipy spot where i see the main spot where tanks fight cuz short reload + high pen + normie alpha
but some isu 300m away kills me cuz some m41d spotted me 😭

[umbral hamlet]

That's part of becoming better at the game

[rigid rover]

can i get some advice for wut should i do as a med tank
for lower tier games i stuck with one or 2 tanks and snipe support or shoot n hide
worked out for me, but now, even if i go with the heavies i get 2 shotted cuz i have no armor and my 200 pen nothing against t8
t7s are fine tho

[hollow belfry]

The Panther can perform fine against t8 in the gunnery department

200mm works well enough (about the average pen of a tier 8 medium, actually). If you struggle with that, think about most other t7 meds with 140-160mm of pen

[broken turtle]

is it?
pershing is good now
m46 is average
only t20 is that bad
e8 is below-average i think so

[broken turtle]

if wg successfully do it ppl might ask for centurion avre heheheh

[sleek apex]

When i used to grind the line it was, especially when stock. The m26 pershing was good when i fully upgraded it though. Didnt like the m46 and just researched the top gun then m48 skipping other modules.

[limpid hedge]

The shop i getting even worse. Why theres only a few tanks in shop and no good one premium in tech tree?

[sleek apex]

Good offers only come sometime throughout the year mostly during wotb anniversaries, black friday and during the holidays so keep saving up golds until a good tank becomes for sale.

[jaunty crater]

Hey panther 2 or tiger 2 ?

[dim shard]

Tiger II

[balmy compass]

#devs-answers

[umbral hamlet]

Premium tree has always been bad wdym, tanks are overpriced there and there are only outdate premiums
Also in the last 6 months of the oast year we had a flood of every single strong premium and some of them got sold even 2 times in this period, so it's understandable that rn we are in a "dead shop" phase

[peak idol]

Can u make these tanks HD
Tiger 131
T26E3 Eagle 7
Is-2 Berlin
Isu-122s
Centurion 7/1

[violet timber]

They can

[balmy compass]

they will

[empty helm]

So they can get more people to buy them
Stonks

[peak idol]

Ik

[solid gate]

Hi everyone. I need help to play the batchat in the new meta.
The tier X in more unforgiving than ever : big guns on TD, overpowered clipper othen means garage.

1. fight along heavies :

Theory : I could shoot lower plates when everyone is reloading
Practice : Enemies are hiding, or this momentum will only allow me to get 1 shell and lose the trade
Plus : the meta is hilled terrain, not flat ground.

2. Fight along meds :

Theory : these targets are less armored. This way i could empty the barrel more easier
Practice : TD's, Sheridans and the fact most heavies have turetls i can't pen : can't stand 1 and 1.

3. camping :
   Theory : Seat in a bush, spot and get damage
   Practice : not enough pen, gun effective at short/medium range, maps are too short for that.

4. Flank :
   Theory : the front is fixed, so use minimap and kill the rear.
   Practice : big TD's are often camping at base (=death), enemy meds that are not sure what to do will focus you.

So what can i do ?
PS : Of course any good replay is welcome 🙂

[empty helm]

You move around and support the team

[solid gate]

Can you develop ?

[empty helm]

Nope

[solid gate]

That's not helping me alot

[upper sun]

im about to get the is-7, any tips for playing it? thanks in advance

[vapid nacelle]

Suggestions on the kranvagn and the tanks before it ( tier 8 and 9 )

[upper sun]

with kran you never really wanna let go of that last shell
same with emil 2
try to hulldown with kran

[vapid nacelle]

Thx for the advice

[empty helm]

Hulldown with those crane truckies

[upper sun]

yea np

[vapid nacelle]

Also why does the emil 2 have less armor than the 1 and the kran?

[empty helm]

Because WG

[cloud coral]

cuz its weird

[solid gate]

seriously nobody have a clue reguarding the bc gameplay?

[lilac mica]

What he meant by moving around and support the team is to finish tanks with low HP and to help your teammates being circled/rushed. BC got 3 clips. You can get in a situation that you could kill three tanks in a row in less than 10 seconds. It can do a difference between winning and losing. I’ll show you a replay of my friend in BC illustrating my answers. Also, you could watch on YouTube Fatness playing the BC.

[balmy compass]

dang 3 clips, I wonder how many shot is in each clip

[empty helm]

If you are talking about leopard it's 12

[plucky summit]

4 x 3 per, idk

[balmy compass]

where did leopard come from 💀
look at the message above mine

[empty helm]

Then it's 9
You said 3 clips

[odd cove]

hm

[solid gate]

@lilac micathank you for your answer

[lilac mica]

You’re welcome

[balmy compass]

this is the message I ment... 3 clips for the BC?

[lilac mica]

I meant magazines and you know what I meant by that (3 magazines with each of them 1 shell)

[rough jay]

the leopard does not have 3 clips lol

[umbral hamlet]

Leo tier5 has 3x3 clips (3 shots with 3 shells fired each

[spiral anchor]

Really?

[urban pawn]

yes

[spiral anchor]

It does

[spiral anchor]

Like the leopard?

[urban pawn]

yeah

[rough jay]

Anyone have T54 armor profile?

[vital geyser]

What t10 are worth to get rn

[dreamy rain]

TVP

[merry current]

140, 71, 140, 60tp, 140, t57, oh and also 140

[dreamy rain]

140 and 140?

[naive coral]

4 140?

[umbral hamlet]

Use Armor Inspector or Blitzhangar

[balmy compass]

He really likes the 140

[sleek apex]

They would update those eventually, i hope the 131 gets remodelled to look like the real one like on WoT Pc and Console though, also being able to use the Maybach HL 230 engine so it would have more mobility.

[pale finch]

tiger 131 really needs to be reworked(the skin)

[balmy compass]

I am having a hard time deciding which line I should grind after the Kran, the 3 options I was thinking of were: T110E4, M46 Patton and Vickers Light.
So which tank would you guys suggest out of the 3 and why

[ebon nacelle]

Vickers

[balmy compass]

No reason why? I won’t really take much of your opinion if you don’t want to even give any reason

[solid gate]

That really comes down to your playstyle, vickers just had a huge nerf but it’s still good apparently, go that if you want a light that plays like a med and has cool HESH, use T110e4 if you like superheavy tds that aren’t as good as the turretless ones, and m48 is solid but I can’t get the hang of it, that would be my choice though (m48)

[pulsar sinew]

Arguably the best of the three by a mile and the dominant light tank

[merry current]

so between vickers and e4 cuz patton is kinda bad

vick is a pretty good LT now, accuracy buff made it much more consistent
e4 is now super underrated, imo its one of the best tds now because it has a proper td reload and above average dispersion, pair that with a turret and troll armor and u have a very flexible td

[balmy compass]

Thank you for giving a reason, I will take this into consideration

[sleek apex]

I dont suggest the m48 cause not being on either an autoloader, big gun, or heavily armored tank in tier X punishes you hard already, thats is currently the thing on tier x matches on atleast the apac server

[balmy compass]

Thanks, I will think about this

[balmy compass]

Alr then, I see the general consensus says that the Patton isn’t a great choice, ig I’ll get it another time, thanks

[sleek apex]

I could only use that tank on uprising due to the time jump

[merry current]

in terms of purely carrying ability, vickers by a mile because meds/lt just have way more carry potential than tds
however e4 is still extremely good, and it farms dmg pretty hard since its a td while having the flexibility to play like a 2nd line heavy if needed

[oak pollen]

Everyone I have a interesting new (I guess)
I go check the update and see that WG nerf Vicker light view range and buff Sheridan view range so, most view range in t10 is Sheridan now.

[solid gate]

Buff the kv2

[sleek apex]

In what way does it need a buff? The tank are only a thing to play if you like the boom boom 152mm and could be devastating if the player know how to work around with the reload and picking the right targets for the job.

[peak idol]

@pale finch ik bc these tanks that I listed are historical (except the Centurion) But also bc they are most wanted tanks by everyone

[strange sluice]

t57 heavy good?

[violet timber]

Yes

[graceful hare]

On type 71 which is better to get suspension or gun depression?

[dreamy osprey]

suspension easy

[plucky summit]

It’s amazing how they somehow made an equipment that is a better choice that three extra degrees of gun depression

[dreamy osprey]

Question which collector tanks are good from the below list

Super conq
Vk.90
Concept 1
T95E6
Badger
Obj907
T-22
AMX 30b

Only select 6 kindly. I wanna recover them

[violet timber]

All of them except the last 2 tbh

[fast compass]

Pretty much. I was gonna list them but yeah exclude the last two

[dreamy osprey]

T-22?!

[violet timber]

It’s meh nowadays, just get the 907

[dreamy osprey]

I expect E6 to be bad guess it’s changed

[violet timber]

E6 is kinda crazy now, easily the best heavium at tier 10

[dreamy osprey]

Wut…

[thick trout]

30b is kinda bad now everything got a buff and it got .2 off reload, slightly worse top speed and a pat on the back for luck but it's still so much fun to play, sconq is kinda bad and boring and I can't comment on the E6 because I haven't played it but the rest are all good choices

[plucky summit]

Misinformation

[brave juniper]

I'd ignore S conq and t22s then recover the last 6

[dreamy rain]

the last 2

[plucky summit]

THe AmX M4 mLE. 54 ObViOuSLy

[dreamy osprey]

don't own it costs too much

[balmy compass]

No WZ 5a?

[umbral hamlet]

ignore 30b and t22 (greatarmor, ok mobility and meh gun) or 907 (great mobility, good gun, meh armor) depending on what u prefer

[valid gale]

Didn’t it get a top speed buff though?

[brave juniper]

No, it was a nerf, 30b

[lyric oriole]

They pulled a 263 on 30B

[valid gale]

Forever mad they stealth nerfed leopards mobility

[brave juniper]

"oh no a tank that only has 2 good things going for it, LETS NERF 1 THING AND SLIGHTLY buff the other redeeming factor of it"

[brave juniper]

Huh, wait when?

[valid gale]

Multiple people have noticed and reported the leopard seems off after the rework and I myself having 4k+ battles played with it and the gun powder and reticle consumable and they nerfed it’s mobility

It’s noticeably more sluggish in steering and accelerating even with dual fuel

[lyric oriole]

I always thought it was kinda sluggish so I haven't noticed anything

[violet timber]

It had the fastest acceleration in tier 10 iirc

[lyric oriole]

Here's the in-game mobility stats

Let's see what Tank Compare and Blitz hangar say with the same setup

[plucky summit]

I just know Leopard 1 excels at rushing up a hill

I try to find an interesting solo climb spot on every map

[lyric oriole]

Tank compare isn't adequate due to limited equipment options

But blitz hangar is pretty accurate to it it seems

[plucky summit]

I wonder who owns this server

[sterile briar]

Wth devs explain hiw do i have 125

[plucky summit]

You need to get the premium pass to fill it and collect it

[lilac mica]

Not premium pass

[sterile briar]

Imean 125 you get 20 per win

[plucky summit]

You start out with 125

[balmy compass]

you start with 125 by default

[sterile briar]

Oh lol

[plucky summit]

Epic gamer moment 🗿

[urban radish]

Concept 1B, just why? Literally can't pen even with a Ho Ri it's difficult

[violet timber]

It is only strong hulldown

[plucky summit]

Can’t penetrate a tank in its single strongest position: “Nerf ittt!!!” 😭

[merry current]

yes c1b pen is terrible, but play it like a heavium, aim at weakspots, it's fine

mk6 just better tho

[wanton marlin]

My problem with the Mk 6 is the big cupola that gets penned every time it pokes ( I don’t have the Mk 6 I just know this from experience shooting at it in my Leo 1)

Also Mk 6 is better than Concept

[merry current]

that can be easily mitigated by gun blocking and wiggling 😫

[thick trout]

Gun blocking...? Wiggling is vaguely adequate but when the concept can sit precisely still with no realistic weakspot on a ridge, as well as having a better hull and hugely better sides...

[merry current]

hrrrdrrr cupola big weakspot!!!
i stay hull down even on the weaker spot and only get shot in the cupola once

[valid gale]

Higher top speed too

[lyric copper]

see problem with the C1B is that its boring to play

the chieftain is fun

[ebon nacelle]

Yeah

[thick trout]

One replay that I'm not going to bother to watch is going to show nothing in the slightest, it's a huge exploitable weakspot that will get hit no matter what you do. The concept doesn't have that issue.

[ebon nacelle]

I smell skill issue

[hollow notch]

Gun blocking can make the enemies gun jump around, throwing off a shot

[light hamlet]

40TPs pretty strong

[light hamlet]

Question:

Does anyone know a spot for a tiger 1 that can be ammo racked using a 40TP habicha? The gun turret is 90mm and i currently have APCR/HE/AP

[violet timber]

Side of the hull, right below the turret

[balmy compass]

Just hit the center of the sides and you might crit the rack

[light hamlet]

Where is this app

[balmy compass]

Armor inspector, pretty sure both Apple and Android devices can download on their app stores

[light hamlet]

Which ammo however?

[balmy compass]

All of those are ammoracks you can hit

[light hamlet]

O ok

[balmy compass]

Most tanks have multiple racks in different parts of the tank

[sage shale]

Is this tank good?

[violet timber]

It’s average

[sage shale]

Ok thanks

[ebon nacelle]

Very average

[sage shale]

Ok

[hearty pawn]

Add Vz. 50

[ornate coral]

It sucks, loza is better (and free)

[rigid rover]

best t10?
then best t10 for germans?

[acoustic galleon]

VK 90 or the Kmpz 50t.
(Sadly both are collectors)

[rigid rover]

sry i mean tek tree

[acoustic galleon]

All three of the German heavies are quite decent, the E50m is a solid medium.

No idea about the TDs or Leo 1.

[rigid rover]

my playstyle is more snipe n support and more reliant on gun than armor, can the e 50 m do dmg to t10 heavies also ive heard its gud for ramming lol

[acoustic galleon]

If you like to snipe and play support, the Leo 1 is better suited to your playstyle. But it is a high skill tank.

[merry current]

vk72, leo 1
all the others are either worse than the tanks above or are bad in general
idk much about kpz50t, but u cant get it anyways
vk90 is overrated, sure its the best sidescraper but other than that its very meh

[rigid rover]

is this enough skill idk
for amount of battles played
is e 50 m gud ive heard many ppl say it can do everything / for everyone/ ram tank

[merry current]

career stats are meaningless

e50m is very overrated, for less skilled players it can be good because its a forgiving med due to its armor, but it has poor dpm and a large profile, and doesnt have a reliable turret

[quaint fulcrum]

But it can ram

[rigid rover]

so should i get like e 100 or smt

[merry current]

vk72 is better than e100

[ornate coral]

Get E100

[quaint fulcrum]

Vk72 side armor is trash + bigger hatch

[rigid rover]

okay... so should i get tiger 2 instead of panther 2 now
ive heard tiger 2 is one of the best t8 heavies

[ornate coral]

That is correct. It's really fun to play

[merry current]

man do u guys even play either
vk has tungsten, sandbag which means it has same or more hp as e100, and a decent turret
ever since the 9.1 rework e100 is objectively worse

[quaint fulcrum]

No, imo maus is best, other is trash (i have never play the other german ht)

[merry current]

maus is the worst for pubs because it has the worst gun
but it performs a different role, and its not fit for pubs

[quaint fulcrum]

No, u just have skill issue

[rigid rover]

okay... however half of the ppl i ask say get e 50 m and others told me to get leopard

[merry current]

honestly u should get neither, e50m is bad, leo takes high skill
if u want a good med, go for 62a
and when ur good at med/lights, 140 is one of the best t10s and is the same line as 62a

[dreamy osprey]

Keep it civil

[rigid rover]

thx, but since i do wanna complete one german tank line should i get e100, cuz id have to grind like 5 tiers of sovet tanks compared to only like 2 german tanks e 100?

[merry current]

vk72 is better in every way that matters
and imo the e4 is also better than e100 now, but thats a bit of a hot take

[rigid rover]

hmmm okay thx but since im on the panther rn which is BETTER (not gud but just superior to the other)
e100 or e 50 m

[merry current]

heavy vs med, it depends on ur playstyle

[acoustic galleon]

VKs armor is a joke, especially once the enemy loads gold. You can actually angle the E100 and get decent bounces.

[merry current]

how is e100 armor any better
the whole turret is a weakspot, lfp is pennable by basically everything
vk only has worse side armor, but in e100 ur going to get penned unless they cant aim regardless

[jaunty harness]

When angled, the turret is strong

[acoustic galleon]

The traverse speed buff + thicker turret means that once you learn to angle you will bounce, angled E100 armor is more effective than the VK.

[jaunty harness]

And the vkk can't sidescrap bc of the side where the ammorack is. Also the turret is pennable with gold and with ap when slightly angled

[merry current]

cool, u dont need to angle at all in vk for the same result
meanwhile u still have tungsten with the same gun
vk is also slightly faster

[jaunty harness]

e100 has better armour, vkk is a bit faster and has tungsten

[merry current]

they both effectively have the same armor, if anything vk has better cuz u can kinda hull down

[acoustic galleon]

Tungsten is overrated as hell, you get 50-60 more alpha but have to sacrifice repair or adrenaline.

The VK is weak even when head on, you can still aim at the turret basket or the cheeks. There is also the bar between the upper and lower plates.

When you angle the E100 it becomes effective against gold but the VK cannot do that.

[jaunty harness]

and being hulldown in e100 is easier because vkk has rear-placed turret

[acoustic galleon]

The fact you can side scrape in the E100 gives it the edge too.

[merry current]

u can wiggle ur turret like an e100 to minimize ur cheek weakspot
the bar is a tiny weakspot thats extremely hard to hit

and e100 is not good against gold unless its extremely low pen pramo like c1b and meds
u also cant hull down in e100 ur turret is terrible what

the only advantage e100 has is sidescraping yes, but vk hull down is more effective and more used

[acoustic galleon]

That bar is not hard to hit at all, especially when close in.

And the E100 can bounce gold when you angle the turret properly.

[jaunty harness]

while the vk is also an easy pen with gold

[acoustic galleon]

I don't even load gold when facing a VK, the weak spots are just huge. Even at a narrow angle the sides become extremely weak.
Meanwhile an E100 that hides its lower plate will always force you to shoot gold at the turret.

[ornate coral]

vk is worse than E100

[wraith scaffold]

do wg devs ever play t49? the aiming is so broken. it way lags behind other tier 8s or even tier 7s, i have 86% accuracy so it's not my issue

still pissed at this, i waited for 2 seconds aiming this stupid thing and it missed

[sleek apex]

You dont expect a 152mm on a fast moving tank to have pin point accuracy

[umbral hamlet]

i mean you're playing a t49 afterall, you cant be mad if you dont fully aim

[hollow belfry]

^ That's derp guns for you, even more so on a light tank. Aiming for 2 seconds in a t49 is... not a lot

[wraith scaffold]

i could have waited for one hour aiming and it would still miss

[umbral hamlet]

well no, you're at like 15 meters and the full shrinked circle would've been much smaller than the other t49

[wraith scaffold]

the circle was small, it became large once you shoot

[umbral hamlet]

you werent fully aimed, so u cant complain if you didnt hit the target

[wind burrow]

Obj 752 worth it ?

[wraith scaffold]

you never played t49? even fully aimed it misses most of the time

[violet timber]

Not really, just aim

[violet timber]

Yes.

[lyric copper]

it’s a derp gun

ofc it has trash accuracy

[umbral hamlet]

yes, even if it's overpriced like now

[wind burrow]

I got it, still prefer to pay 17.5k better than gambling in crates. The tank is awesome

[umbral hamlet]

it really is, it's one of the strongest tank tier for tier in the game and it's definetly the strongest t9 atm

[fast compass]

I am surprised 752 is back so soon. Wasn't it first sold in like April-may

[umbral hamlet]

yeah it was in an event in april if im not mistaking

[blissful hamlet]

It was in crates

[civic iron]

better than that 150$ deal like last time 💀

[balmy compass]

This tank looks like small arty to me

[ornate coral]

Arty on pc

[umbral hamlet]

on wot it's an arty, in blitz it's a td

[balmy compass]

🤔

[umbral hamlet]

?

[balmy compass]

All this time I thought arty wasn’t going to be added into blitz 😂
But I know this one in blitz operates like any other casemate

[umbral hamlet]

in fact it isnt, at least not anytime soon

[balmy compass]

I know

[copper swan]

is object 752 worth buying for 15 000 gold?

[violet timber]

Yes

[copper swan]

grille 15 got damage nerf but penetration buff
t62a got accuracy nerf
are these still worth grinding and playing

[violet timber]

They’re now both personal preference tanks imo

[copper swan]

would you still use them?

[violet timber]

I would

[copper swan]

how often

[violet timber]

Whenever I feel in the mood for a Russian med or a long gunned TD

[copper swan]

not as often as before?

[violet timber]

I tend to use the 62A more now

Grille is about the same, I don’t personally enjoy it all that much

[solid gate]

Should I save my gold for a smasher or get the object 752?

[lyric copper]

your call, 752 is pretty nice

[calm garnet]

Gambling for smasher isnt really worth it imo

[violet timber]

Smasher will never be sold for a direct purchase, 752 is being sold directly. Choice seems pretty clear to me

[solid gate]

@lyric copper @calm garnet @violet timber
Okay thanks I am going to get the obj.

[calm garnet]

yh 752 is a good tier 9 + a cool camo

[solid gate]

Yeah I wanted to ask should I spend the extra 2k gold for the camo and boxes?@calm garnet

[calm garnet]

yh prob, the camo is sick

[solid gate]

I arl miss T18

[low flax]

balance = amx50b's rushing med side insta killing one med-light tank. (I dont even talk about 50b plats)

[dim shard]

I have a question:
Why does the Firefly lacks almost everything

[tulip knot]

It has pen

[dim shard]

Compensated with average to mediocre precision combined with huge weak hull (+ only 6° of depression), same rating for it’s mobility, average DPM.

[tulip knot]

Yeah

I played one game and it sucks

[orchid dagger]

Type 71 armor needs a nerf tbh. It's crazy, plus it's going at medium tank speed.😒

[dim shard]

I really fear playing with Firefly on regular battles because dude, a mediocre tank at every stats except pen which can meet infamous and cursed tier VII AND/OR meet the ARL 44, Kryo, BP-ARL…
It’s going to be a win ratio killer

[solid gate]

@calm garnet okay thanks.

[umbral hamlet]

firefly is quite bad atm, cromwell does everything it does but better

[ancient iron]

is the 752 Stargazer worth it?

[umbral hamlet]

YES

[ancient iron]

goddamn.... first game

[sleek apex]

The firefly requires knowledge to play and any mistakes wont forgive you due to the lack of armor and speed, It shouldnt be the tank to be focus fired on the team. average players would do bad with it but if you know how to 2nd line support the 17 pounder gun would shine.

[light hamlet]

What should i put? Its a heavy tank 45TP

[light hamlet]

@wise moth hey erm your a community helper right? Could you help me with this please?

[merry current]

^ for 50tp/60tp replace repair with tungsten

[plucky summit]

Fr want to replace repair instead of adrenaline? 💀

[merry current]

uh yea? multi by itself is perfectly fine if u play heavies properly

[plucky summit]

Yeah until you get rushed because of your consistently unreliable teammates

[merry current]

sounds like skill issue, i play many tanks with special consumables with only multi, like 60tp, vk72, 215b, e5, 4005, etc

[plucky summit]

You did NOT just call that a skill issue 😂

It’s a skill issue of teammates, sure

[merry current]

ive ran 4005 with no repair before, works fine but requires a diff playstyle

a heavy doesnt need to repair that often, if ur getting perma tracked ur doing it wrong

[plucky summit]

Oh perma tracking isn’t the problem

#Don’tBuy60TP is

[merry current]

idk what ur talking about, e5 loses modules and crew super easily and i was fine with 1 repair

[plucky summit]

🤦‍♂️

I’m call you a skill issue for not having more DPM all the time 😎

Beh that wasn’t worded well

[safe cedar]

I saw an MLE 54, he activated speed boost, adrénaline, and tungsten shells like 30 sec after battle started.

[balmy compass]

Ah yes, those new players who always activate everything at the same time for no reason 🗿

[tulip knot]

Like why. I’ve done training rooms with specifically no shooting and people still use adrenaline

[pulsar sinew]

Why are you surprised at training room anarchy?

[tulip knot]

No like people weren’t shooting. Just adrenaline

[empty helm]

Guys what should I buy now

[merry current]

well do u want e3 or kran

[empty helm]

I want both

[merry current]

idk roll a dice then
imo theyre both very eh, e3 is a slow td and tds arent very relevant, esp slower ones. kran is low dpm but noob friendly

[frail dagger]

Go kran

[empty helm]

Ok ty

[empty helm]

But it's an armored AMX 50

[valid gale]

Armoring paper doesn’t make it a bunker just makes it mache

[empty helm]

What is a mache

[light hamlet]

I need help the lookout area option isnt working i dont wanna rotate my turret while looking at my allies on where they are going or enemies near me i only wait it to rotate when i positioned it any solutions?

[sleek apex]

Mold made out of paper

[lyric copper]

agree ngl

never have ran double super consumables

mostly comes down to a poor tourn experience with the E5 when I did run double with reactive and super boost

got ammo damage, fixed, tracked, ammoracked

[pliant pike]

Almighty KV-4

[ember mica]

When add artillery to game?

[lyric copper]

never

[empty helm]

We got artillery in the game already what are you talking about?

[past crane]

…

No we don’t. We do not have arty in blitz and we (hopefully) never will.

[celest relic]

is 5 good?

[copper swan]

decent

[exotic fog]

😒

[solid wolf]

get kran good turret armor but use hard cover on tds they can premiun shell your tureet so yea.

[ornate coral]

E3

[empty helm]

We have t18 and t82

Those are artilleries in wot

[lilac mica]

Flashback of T82 before nerf

[past crane]

This isn’t WoT PC, and you do know the T18 and T82 were originally tank destroyers in PC.

Making comparisons to PC is fruitless because it’s a totally different game.

[empty helm]

They are artilleries now so that counts

[umbral hamlet]

hem they aren't?

[tulip knot]

Nightmare is basically an arty with that shell speed and dispersion

[past crane]

in PC

BLITZ IS NOT PC therefore it DOESN’T COUNT

They are still TDs in Blitz.

[pulsar sinew]

^^^

[balmy compass]

No sarcasm?

[kindred wren]

They don‘t have what makes an artillery in PC an artillery, which is an indirect fire capability

[thorny smelt]

And widespread HE damage and stun

Also me: Why did they use the 120 mm gun model for the AMX M4 mle. 54 if the gun calibre is 130 mm? Please fix it.

[lyric copper]

i dunno the long 120 we have just looks more correct

[thorny smelt]

AMX M4 mle. 54 has 2 guns in WoT PC. I don't know if the screenshots are there so that I can show them for you.

Heck. English-as-Second-Language moment.

[lyric copper]

I know what it looks like

[thorny smelt]

Ok

[rigid rover]

panther 2 or tiger 2?
also is e 50 m a good t10 worth it?
also is is-6 gud? i rember is-5,6 or 7 was op one of them

[umbral hamlet]

Tiger2
Yes e50m is good even tho it isnt meta anymore
Is6 and is5 are both kinda garbage and is7 is still decent but is4 took the crown of best t10 ussr heavy

[rigid rover]

damn it dats bad
they on different paths
im used to pantehr playstyle and can excel in games if done correctly
but id have to sped liek xtra 2 mil credits for both pantehr and tiger 2
cuz i dont wanna e 100
waht do i do

[umbral hamlet]

why don't u want to do e100 line? E75 is one of the strongest t9s and E100 is a very heavly armored heavy

[rigid rover]

i just dont like heavuy tanks
my playstyle is usually dont rely on armor, snipe and support, have decent mobility for circling heavies or run by shooting
im just not used to being slow, armor gamble, and bad dmg per minute
most battles in light or meduim lmao
armor in lower tier heavies just not gud enough the capola and lower glacis plate ezily pen and some meduims can pen front and side ezily trade off not worth it

[rigid rover]

also its more fun when u have to shoot and run around and use ur armor carefully than just sit there deflect dmg and shoot

[hollow belfry]

then go for the E50 M line🤷‍♂️

[rigid rover]

wut t10 should i try to grind after

[light hamlet]

Question whats top tier

[warm stream]

Is 17 k gold for ob752 good offer?

[pine moss]

Yo how is type 71 not op

Armour more useful than a maus’

[sleek apex]

The gun has bad dpm so it would do bad if teamed up, loading gold makes the cheeks vulnerable

[thorny smelt]

I think the upper front plate is vulnerable to tall tanks

[sleek apex]

Thats usual to any tanks that arent high profile or the player that shoots it are on a higher ground level which makes the armor less angled than it is on flat ground

[potent swift]

I got penned in the upper/lower plate and sides even at slight overangle plenty of times, I cannot understand how every single time a new line comes out people blatantly call it OP before it inevitably blends in with the rest of the tanks and is just another tank in the game.

Type 71 has good front armor and mobility, that's it, everything else is bad in this tank. Saying that Type 71 is OP because of the front armor is like saying that L-100-LT is OP because it's fast.

[solid gate]

I agree with the statement that every new tank is called OP, but I don’t think you do the type 71 justice by saying it has good frontal armor and speed, it’s got very troll side armor, and it’s speed can be swapped out for extra gun depression, and also the armor on the front is hard to pen with prem in a med, unless you run CS

[potent swift]

I'm not saying it is a bad tank by any means, but it definitely has its drawbacks, mainly in turret and gun. I'm just saying that people are well overestimating the capabilities of this tank.

Whether it deserves a nerf or not is a whole different discussion but the tank itself as it is right now is not "OP", also, people call anything that isn't bad OP nowadays so that's another thing, the word is overused. It it gets a nerf, it'll probably be the traverse speed or frontal armor.

[solid gate]

Yeah, that’s right the word OP is used about anything that’s above avg, and I’m sure it’s got drawbacks to account for it’s armor

[hushed dust]

Which Russian TD is better, 268 or 263 and why?

Most of the battle I've had are mostly 268's tank line but no 263's

[sleek apex]

For a player that doesnt know the weakspots, the type 71 are hard to play against if the player doesnt use a tank with high pen. After a while players would know how to deal with it and it would be another usual heavy tank.

[solid gate]

I agree

[potent swift]

That is not a valid argument, for a new player every tank is OP going by that logic. If we balanced tanks based on what "a player that doesn't know" is judging the tanks quality, the balance would be a complete mess.

[solid gate]

And btw you were right looks like it’s speed is getting a nerf

[solid gate]

He’s saying that the balance is right, not that they should balance it because everyone says OP

[potent swift]

Right, I may have misunderstood cause I'm in a rush now, sorry.

[sleek apex]

Im not saying that the type 71 are op btw, imo its fairly balanced cause the gun are below average compared to other hts, prob on par or slightly better than maus 128mm in comparison. I get a harder time fighting the polish heavies than these cause those only has the lfp and very small cupola as weakspots frontally with huge alpha gun.

[solid gate]

Yeah, and more depression if you want speed on the type 71

[potent swift]

I can agree.

[solid gate]

All good

[sleek apex]

The gun dep equipment makes the tank more flexible and gives more hulldown options which isnt bad, the better suspension one atm are quite too good (imo) as it makes the tank a bully on medium side due to its mobility while having a strong armor making it like an undergunned modern tank. The 9.2 mobility nerf on type 71 is a bad move though, they could just replace the suspension equipment with rammer.

[solid gate]

Well yes I agree as to the how equipment works, and I did have a thought that nerfing the mobility will increase the need to use suspension thereby reducing the comparative usefulness of gun depression, however they can’t really take half a new equipment slot away after just adding it, and the nerf will probably work out ok in the end

[past crane]

Nah the IS7 is still better imo by a slight margin. The IS4 has been buffed but overall it still lags slightly behind the IS7 in terms of ease of use and flexibility.

[lyric copper]

just spam prammo at it whist wiggling with suspension

ez bounces

also weird how even pro players are calling the Type 71 OP

almost like they know more and understand more about the game and how it works

even weirder when you consider that it has a 54% average winrate globally

[violet timber]

The Type 71 is blatantly OP.

The gun isn’t even bad, it’s just meh. The armor is stupid, forcing the enemy to fire Prammo to penetrate, lowering their own dpm. And then there’s the fact that it’s a heavy tank that accelerates like a medium.

[warm stream]

Asking again

[umbral hamlet]

yes, even tho it's overpriced

[blissful hamlet]

The 752 is very interesting + you have a small chance of getting other tanks

[humble wigeon]

hey guys, a bug just ruined my tournament because we go to battle then i see the battle screen then it says please wait and it did tp me back to the garage

[wanton marlin]

I had a bug kind of like that. It was on canal and I was going med side then my game froze said pls wait and then sent me back to my garage. This was in normal mode

[tulip knot]

268 has more alpha pen, and accuracy.
263 has more dpm and more solid armor and slightly more speed.
263 is harder to use as it needs to shoot more often and has almost no gun depression. Mobility is pretty similar though

[lyric oriole]

263 is almost impossible to play with the base dispersion

[livid moss]

Is Conway good?

[lyric oriole]

It's ok

Nothing to write home about but plenty good

[balmy compass]

Annoying TDS that can hit you for 640, since the Waffle can’t do that anymore

[kindred roost]

Still hits hard

[sleek apex]

Which one should i free exp from the Tiger (p)? Vk 72.01 k or Jagdpizza? I have 421k free exp currently and are not interested on grinding most lines, maybe E-100 or STB-1 (but im not that good on the STB-1 line playstyle)

Free exp'ing the jagd costs less from Tiger (p) compared to starting from Jagdpanzer IV research and are quite lazy to grind lol

[plucky summit]

Just go through the TD line if you want to get Jageroo

[violet timber]

Go through the JPz 4 to get to the JP 2. Ferdi is absolutely terrible, whereas the JP2 experience is kinda fun

[lilac mica]

+1
And you should probably keep JPz 4

[sleek apex]

I have enough exp to skip the line, i'd pretty much only use either of them on fun modes cause i dont play tier X much, might consider grinding down the td line though

[balmy compass]

If it’s for more of fun modes I would pick VK 72, it’s more versatile then the Jag for having that turret and it’s fun to play in realistic with such a strong frontal plate

Although the Jag is the all time meta in Gravity mode…

[sleek apex]

Yep, a superheavy td with jump boost lol

[merry current]

late, but vk72 without a doubt
since 9.1 nerfs jg is garbage, it's gun is super inconsistent now and it's very hard to play frontline without a turret

meanwhile vk72 is one of the better heavies, with good frontal armor with tungsten and sandbags

the jg line is also a very easy grind compared to the vk line, so its better to fxp the harder line

[deep shore]

Who has better credit coefficient badger or mark 6. Also is the badger decent enough for credit farming

[rigid rover]

why is the t25/2s max gun only 0.3 seconds faster than the hellcats max gun bruh both 225 alpha btw, you work up one tier for -0.3 seconds reload

[amber minnow]

Best tank to cred grind?

[warm stream]

I think u didnt get max crew

[rigid rover]

huh

[umbral hamlet]

Premium or tech tree?

[amber minnow]

Prem

[umbral hamlet]

Chi nu kai probably, because it's still at a decent enough tier (5) and has the 3rd highest credit coefficient

[amber minnow]

Unlucky for me I don’t have it,I do almost have 30 prem t8 though

[umbral hamlet]

in tier8 the best credit grinder is the lowe

[amber minnow]

You’re f’ing kidding

[umbral hamlet]

it has 185% but ammos (now only prammos) are cheaper

[amber minnow]

Out of the 30 prem t8 I have to use the tank I haven’t touched in 8 years

[umbral hamlet]

all the other t8 prems are still pretty good at grinding tho, all sitting between 175% and 185%

[amber minnow]

Oh nice thanks

[merry current]

use the t8 prem that u perform the best in, the performance will be a bigger factor than the cred coefficient

[thorny smelt]

^^^

[quartz thistle]

Hello

[muted frost]

Tier 11

[abstract onyx]

Guys what happend to the tiger1

Oh

I am not seing a single tiger131 now